November 3, 2025 • 28 mins
Join Jim and Greg for the Monday 3 Martini Lunch as they dissect a brutal ad to close out the New Jersey governor's race, college students strongly preferring socialism to capitalism, and more drama from South Carolina Rep. Nancy Mace as she runs for governor.
First, they dissect Republican Jack Ciattarelli’s brutal closing ad in the New Jersey governor’s race, which spotlights Democrat Mikie Sherrill struggling to name a single legislative priority. Ciattarelli came much closer than expected in 2021. Can he pull off the win tomorrow?
Next, they react to a disturbing new poll showing that 67 percent of college students have a positive or neutral view of socialism, while only 40 percent feel the same about capitalism. Jim offers an explanation as to why so many young lefties blame the system for their frustrations. It must be the system because it can't be a consequence of their own choices, right?
Finally, they groan as Nancy Mace stirs up more controversy by allegedly berating two airport police officers for not meeting her at the curb to escort her to her gate. Mace is great at attracting attention. But as she runs for governor, are South Carolina voters really going to vote for all of her personal drama to be on regular display in the highest office in the state?
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First, they dissect Republican Jack Ciattarelli’s brutal closing ad in the New Jersey governor’s race, which spotlights Democrat Mikie Sherrill struggling to name a single legislative priority. Ciattarelli came much closer than expected in 2021. Can he pull off the win tomorrow?
Next, they react to a disturbing new poll showing that 67 percent of college students have a positive or neutral view of socialism, while only 40 percent feel the same about capitalism. Jim offers an explanation as to why so many young lefties blame the system for their frustrations. It must be the system because it can't be a consequence of their own choices, right?
Finally, they groan as Nancy Mace stirs up more controversy by allegedly berating two airport police officers for not meeting her at the curb to escort her to her gate. Mace is great at attracting attention. But as she runs for governor, are South Carolina voters really going to vote for all of her personal drama to be on regular display in the highest office in the state?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. Grab a stool next
to Greg Corumbus of Radio America and Jim Garritty of
National Review. Free Martini's coming up. So glad you're with
us for the Monday edition of the three mar teeny Lunch.
Tomorrow is election day in Virginia, New York City, and
New Jersey, and lots of places around the country, but
those places have the most watchable races for national political purposes.
(00:27):
We'll be talking about New Jersey in just a second,
and a great closing ad from Republican nominee Jack Cheddarelli.
We'll also be taking a look at a new survey
from Axios showing that American college students have it exactly
backwards on whether they're favorable towards socialism or capitalism. The
numbers are not encouraging. And we'll also talk about the
latest incident involving South Carolina Republican Congressman Nancy Mace, who
(00:51):
is now running for governor of South Carolina. Sadly, this
is not an isolated incident. Jim, Tomorrow's election day. What's
your election day routine? I already voted early. When I
did used to go and you can still do this
at the early voting locations. You know they've always got
the literature. Here's your sample ballot kind of thing. I
used to take a bunch of Democratic sample ballots, hoping
(01:13):
they would run out until the day the guy gave
me his whole stack and said, oh no, don't worry
about I got boxes still in the car. That strategy
is now no longer employed.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Did you not check turnout usually at that polling place?
And you know I need eight million copies of my voting.
I voted the silly in the morning. For a while there,
I was voting absentee. This is back when i'd be
like traveling to the Blaze or something on election day.
That's not out a suspicion of mail ballots or anything
(01:42):
like that. It just is I can do it in
the morning, and I usually try to get there around
the same time, and I try to measure what's the turnout.
It never turns out to be particularly useful in terms of, oh,
turnout as high, turnout as low, or something like that.
If you ever watching live television on election day, I'm
reported to you live from the pre work hours, and
turnout the line is out the building turnout looks like
(02:02):
it's going to be. Now you go to mid mid morning,
it's really slowed down. It's little out with lunchtime up,
there's a love of Love line again, it's going to
be a big turnout mid afternoon. Well, actually the lines
have disappeared. It's pretty empty here. It's almost as if
people vote before work, on their lunch hour or after work. Yes,
there are senior citizens and people who voted other hours,
but like, don't read too much into that. That's the
(02:22):
pattern that happens every single year. It doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
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a second. That's a very close governor's race and one
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All right, Jim as mentioned all eyes on Virginia, New Jersey,
New York City. But make sure you pay attention to
your local racist too. Your vote has a significant impact
on those ballot initiatives and city council and school board
and all that stuff, So make sure you get out
to vote tomorrow. In New Jersey, close race between Mikey Cheryl,
the Democrat, the congresswoman, as well as Republican businessman Jack Chattarelli,
(04:28):
who came really close to beating Phil Murphy four years
ago but didn't quite get there, so he's the nominee again.
We've talked about Mikey Cheryl's issues with her investments, which
scored her seven million bucks conveniently as she served on
the House Armed Services Committee. She's never had a good
answer for that, and of course her problems at the
(04:48):
Naval Academy not being able to walk at commencement because
she refused to cooperate in a cheating scandal. She was
not accused of cheating, but she refused to help investigators
in that particular situation, and so she had an interview
the other day, and it's always one of these softball interviews,
just like, hey, how would you be different than Joe Biden,
Kamala Harris that trips up these Democrats. And this time
(05:09):
Mikey Cheryl has asked the extremely difficult question, if you
could pass one piece of legislation, what would it be?
Listen to this so last question, if you could ask
one piece of legislation, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Wow, I would love That's a really good question, because
there's so many that are coming to mind right now,
but right now I would love at this point to
pass legislation to as just send a federal block grant
back to the states, back to the state of New
(05:45):
Jersey to run some really key programs and innovate on them.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Was Mikey Cheryl ever miss teen South Carolina? Because that's
kind of the answer that I'm getting there about maps
in the Iraq, And I remember that one Jim from
back in the day. But you're hearing as that music's
playing and some of those other sound effects is fight inflation,
reduced crime, and proof schools. And all she gets to is, well,
we're supposed to get a block grant and so maybe
we'll use that on a few programs, and so she
(06:12):
said that so many things are coming to mind. Literally
nothing was coming to mind, which was a problem.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So I'm reminded of the question to Ted Kennedy again,
probably one of the easiest questions you're ever going to
get when you just set announce you're running for president.
Came from Roger Mud of CBS News to send then
Senator Kennedy, why do you want to be president?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Again, if you're going to run for president, you better
have an answer for that one. Butted, like Ted Kennedy,
hesitated his eyes, He's kind of oh, it just gives
this long, you know, alphabet soup of an answer with
absolutely no answers there. And I'd say, oh my god,
I haven't seen a Mud take out a presidential candidate
like that since Samuel Mudd played a role in the
(06:55):
Agricumblica assassination. See we get some really deep cut historical
jokes here on three Martin Lunch podcast. Look, this is
the basic one. This is this is about as easy
as you can use so you can get And I'm
not convinced that Cheddarelly is going to win, but I
would just note that right now, the real clear politics average.
As w I checked a few moments ago, the margin
(07:16):
of error was three point one percentage points. Four years
ago they were off by four percentage points. And we remember,
you know, Phil Murphy came very close to losing that one.
So it's the same you know, variant, same problem in
the polls. Then actually Republicans could win this one. Now
you're doing the math on that, that still leads to
a one percent Republican win. So it's not that's not
a huge margin for error. I think what is you know,
(07:39):
likely to happen is publicly to get a Republicans finishing
close but no Cigar in this one, which would be
frustrating because Cheryl is a deeply flawed candidate. I know
that there is a lot like Democrats were convinced like, oh,
just like with Spamburger, we're going to go with a
suburban one that's moderate wink wink, military experience. Spamburger was
in the CIA, and Lawnman like, Ah, we're just gonna
(08:01):
we're gonna run biographical ads and we're not gonna get
into specifics and all that stuff. That should not win
in an environment like this. This should not win when
people are really angry about electricity rates and everything else.
So I'm you know, we can't say that the Republican
campaign took it easy on Cheryl as a candidate, and
we cannot say that they didn't, you know, have good
material to work with. They hit her hard. Now it's
(08:23):
you know, we'll see how the voting goes again. New
Jersey is a very blue state. You know, only only
Chris Christie has won statewide races and like the last
generation or so, so it's frustrating, but you know, we'll
see what happens. And I do think that if he
does win tomorrow, I think that changes the entire narrative.
Even if Mom Dommy wins in New York and even
necemberg Or wins in Virginia, I think people would end
up talking about that as a giant upset and assigned
(08:45):
that a state that was supposed to be safe Democrat
isn't safe at all in an environment where Democrats think
they're doing really well.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Jim, I don't know if there's much to this. I
think there's some to this. What do you make of
the argument that once we got close to election day,
the Democrats couldn't vote to reopen the gover on the
GOP's terms because it would depress their base, and that
they'll probably reopen it later this week once the elections
are done.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think there's an overestimation of how much any given
event in the news cycle affects people's voting. I don't think,
like you know, Afghanistan, you and I talked about on
this podcast a lot four years ago. It's a very
huge deal. I don't know if that affects how people
want to vote for the governor of New Jersey. I
don't know if that affects how people vot to vote
for the governor of Virginia. They're not in the military
(09:28):
chain of command. Terry McAuliffe has a lot of flaws,
and I can talk about it. I could rip into
them all day long. But in the end, he did
not make any decisions regarding Afghanistan, right, So, but on
the only I guess maybe the idea is that what's
going on in the in the news depresses people or
makes people less likely to vu. I think if people
want to vote for a person, they're going to vote.
And I'd like, oh, oh, it's a bad news cycle
for my party. Well, I'm going to stay home you know,
(09:50):
could that happen for some people in the margin? I'm sure,
But you know there are people who there was coverage
of a guy who voted for Trump twice and who
now is voting for or Mamdami up in New York City,
and you're trying to look at the event diagram of
how the Trump worldview and the Mamdamie worldview all all
the news this guy said. Now he's a huge Indianapolis
(10:11):
Colts fan up until yesterday. You know, he just wants
to back a winner. So yeah, maybe there are some
people who are just like any bit of bad news
makes them want to not vote for their candidate.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
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I'd say, also somewhat crazy Martini. This hat tip to
town Hall, but the poll is from Axios. Socialism beats
capitalism among US college students. According to a new Axios
(11:49):
Generation Lab poll, sixty seven percent of survey respondents say
they hold a positive or neutral association with the word socialism,
compared with forty percent but the word capitalism. Here are
the actual numbers. Thirty four percent of surveyed two and
four year college students say they have a somewhat or
very positive view of socialism, compared with seventeen percent who
(12:11):
say the same for capitalism. Just seventeen percent negative views
of capitalism outweighing negative views of socialism by an even
greater difference. Fifty three percent have a negative view of capitalism.
Only twenty three percent overall has a negative view of socialism.
One in three has a neutral view of socialism, one
in four has a neutral view of capitalism. I'm hoping
(12:32):
the neutral people realize they don't know much about it,
and that's why they don't have an opinion. I have
a feeling that there's a lot of people who do
have an opinion that also don't know much about it.
Forty seven percent of Democrats and thirty one percent of
independence but just five percent of Republicans are favorable towards socialism.
Forty five percent of Republicans, seventeen percent of independence and
seven percent of Democrats have positive reactions to capitalism seven
(12:56):
percent of Democrats. So, Jim, we know that college campuses
are not exactly breeding grounds for open thought and debate,
and the professors are pushing a lot of bad ideas
at these kids, but these numbers think they do.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And Greg, I got to tell you when you look
at that, I would have figured both Republican college students
would have supported capitalism nationwide. Secondly, you know, you and
I have talked about college students on this podcast many times,
who've been doing this for fifteen years, but it feels
different this year. So Greg, you have the numbers in
front of you. Did they break it down for incoming
freshmen of highly regarded engineering schools in Massachusetts? Because there's
(13:34):
one student in particular, I expect to answer that question
really well, a bit more seriously though, this is you know,
I kind of wonder because we talked about we alluded
to the New York City Mayor's race and the Lesbrghini.
You know, there are a whole bunch of people who
are highly educated living in New York City. You know,
whole countries feel like it's got a high cost of living.
Things to bide inflation of the last couple of years.
(13:55):
But like people feel like, oh, you know, I'm I
just can't get ahead. I'm looking to find jobs. None
of the jobs are paying well enough. Seems like things
get more expensive each day or each week. When you're
a student, you've lived with your parents. Your parents have
probably worked for a lot of years, and where you
are in your parenting years is probably a different spot
(14:15):
than where you are when you started your career right
out of college in your early twenties. So if you're
a child, you know, if you're a college student, now
you've been living a mom and dad's time, and mom
and dad have worked their way up to have a
pretty decent lifestyle hopefully now. Different people have different circumstances.
You go into the job market, your first job is
not going to be your highest paying job. Your first
job is probably going to stink. And I've tried to
(14:36):
warn this to my kids, this sense that like when
you're starting out in any career, it's going to be
really tough. You're you're going to be paid less than
you expected. Your hour is going to be work, going
to be doing all the grunt work. Welcome to the
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for young people that from the Internet era moving on
(14:57):
to this. You know, all the innovations of AI company
eliminate their entry level jobs. You know the number of
you know, the office person who just run around is
go for back. As an intern at the Washington bureau
of the Dallas Morning News, I like was going through
the mail, coaliting, answer the phones, refilling the toner in
the photocopier. Grunt work. This is not glamorous work, but
this is like the first run on the ladders. This
(15:18):
is how you get into this office environment and how
you learn how to do things that are professional. I
suspect there are a lot of people who live pretty
comfortable with mom and dad lived, you know, fairly comfortably
in a dorm environment in college again mom and dad
paying the bills or scholarships or loans or all these
other things. And then they get into the working world
and life is hard. The career path is hard. Opportunities
(15:40):
for advancement are coming as quickly and easily as they hoped,
and it gives them this sense of well, it can't
be that I'm It can't be that my sociology degree
isn't doing any good. It can't be that I didn't
you know, my pottery, you know, specialization, my women's studies,
my ethnic studies. It can't be that all that failed.
It must be the system has failed. Yeah, well, I mean, like,
you know, look around. Do you see a lot of
(16:00):
billionaire of sociology majors. Do you see a lot of
people who are making money hand over fist when they know?
Probably not. So you probably have to recognize the fact
that what you choose to like, if you study really
hard stuff, you tend to do pretty well. And I'm
hoping things work out at engineering school up in Massachusetts.
But you know, it's one of those things where you
have to like get what you put into it is
kind of what you get out of it. Life is
(16:20):
not going to be a very easy path. And I
think that's at the heart of this is that like, well,
I have not succeeded America they think of as a
capitalist system. By the way, talk to actual libertarians or
Republicans will point out, it's not that capitalist a system.
We have a whole bunch of different forms of government
in trevention in the economy. But fine, we'll put that aside.
They look at capitalists that, well, I haven't gotten what
I wanted. Ergo, capitalism has failed. Bernie Sanders and AOC
(16:44):
and Zoro. On Mamdandi, they're promising the moon, and I'm
sure that'll work out because history is full of examples
of socialist governments always working out.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
On key Dory, the assumption I think that a lot
of us had with Mamdannie was that he's a self
avowed socialist. So obviously this guy is unacceptable. Now that
we've got two thirds of Cowege students saying this, and
maybe some other people are saying, I don't know much
about socialism, but I know things are too expensive, Say
why not give them a shot? Does the right have
to change how we talk about this?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Look, I would love. I think, yeah, one, we might
need to talk about it, but also nothing teaches you more.
So I really think we should be running college for
exchange programs to North Korea, to Cuba, to actually, like
I'm saying this kind of tongue in cheek, but kind
of not that. Like, if you think America is a
really terrible place, and then we have you know, like,
(17:31):
does America have poverty, Sure, lots of other countries have
worcet poverty. Does America have inequality, Sure, lots of other
countries have worsity equality. America's got, you know, an imperfect
system of advancing and improving your lot in life. But
it's probably better. Like you don't see people, you don't
see Floridians jumping into rafts and try to row their
way to Cuba. Right, there's a pretty clear site. Those
rafts are only going in one direction through shark confested water.
(17:53):
That's a pretty clear signal about which system actually works.
And if you go and try to live in Cuba
as a Cuban, not to say wealthy US or Canadian
tourist or something, maybe you get a more eye opening
look at what the actual consequences of socialism is. Because
everybody keeps insisting, oh no, I want the nice Norway
form of socialism. Okay, first step, you know, discover some
enormous oil and natural gas resources. Then you can sell
(18:15):
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pay for all the stuff that you want under a
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jim On too, are crazy Martini now And as regular
listeners know, you have ties to South Carolina, including the
district I believe that Nancy Mace currently represents. But Nancy
Mace is not running for reelection to her district in
South Carolina. She running for governor next year, and according
to the latest polls, which is obviously quite early, she
(20:06):
is neck and neck with the lieutenant governor in the
race to replace Henry McMaster. But Nancy Mace is also
famous for other things. You know. We talked about the
time that she was at a Tim Scott prayer breakfast
and she was telling a story about how the guy
she wasn't married to was trying to bring her back
to bed and she would have been late for the
prayer breakfast. She apparently goes through staff pretty regularly. She's
(20:27):
had this thing in this current Congress where she'll make
serious criminal accusations against people on the House Floor and Committee,
where the speech and debate clause covers her from any prosecution,
which won't talk about it anywhere else. Well. The latest
incident is Nancy Mace at the airport, throwing a temper tantrum,
according to The New York Post Thursday, at the Charleston
(20:48):
International Airport, loudly cursing and berating officers simply trying to
escort her to the gate. The two Charleston County Aviation
Authority Police Department officers who bore the brunt of Mace's
fury had been waiting for the congresswoman's white BMW to
arrive at the airport curb so they could whisk her
to the gate, but they never saw the vehicle arrive
because she showed up in a BMW that was a
(21:09):
different color. The officers were then notified that Mace had
arrived just fifteen minutes after they were expecting the congresswoman.
She was not met at the curb, so she wasn't happy.
She was very irate. Profanity laced at tiraate, according to
a number of people, saying that they were bleeping and
competent and this is no way to treat a bleeping
US representatives and a typical Nancy Mayce fashion. She says,
(21:30):
if in competence is your high bar, we're never going
to get along. And in a Mace administration, you will
quickly find yourself out of a job. If you know
you know so, Jim, a lot of candidates in this race.
Nancy Mace definitely good at bringing drama wherever she goes.
What do you make of her and her potential to
be governor?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, first of all, Greg, I go down to visit
my parents at least twice a year, and in that district,
I'm not saying I see thin blue line flags everywhere,
but I know I've seen some, So I just want
to go out. If you're you're like, this is no
way to treat a member of Congress, how about a
way to treat two officers of the law who've gotten picked.
Must have picked the short straw and get the all
important duty of escorting the congress one to her gate.
(22:11):
It's not unusual to do this for her child traveling alone.
But when you're you're a grown adult, I think you
may find out where your your gate is on your own.
You know, entitled spoiled diva ish, you know, obnoxious, disrespectful
to law enforcement officers. But by the way, let me
point out if she had had this kind of tie
rate in the TSA line after being told for the
(22:32):
millions of times that you know, you want to have
your less than three ounce liquid or gel into a
plastic bag or something. Okay, I could have cut her
some slack. I get kind of you know, I got
kind of annoyed by TSA people, But really, you're a
member of Congress. We should be able to expect a
little better. I also want to point out that, like
when she's running for governor, this is not exactly a
field of little known people you mentioned, you know, being
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tied with the Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Avett. State Senator Josh Krimble,
also another member of the state's delegation to Congress, Ralph Norman,
is running. If people are wondering where who are Jim's
sources in the state of South Carolina, giving him a
perspective on state lawmakers sources who may or may not
be in my family trade. I've just been singing the
praises of State Attorney General Alan Wilson for a long time. Now,
(23:17):
this is my ways the son of Joe Wilson, you lie,
you know this, you know, but he's been in this
job for two terms and just been like your platonic
ideal of what you want a Republican state attorney general
to do. And I'm going to point out that, like
probably nationwide, you haven't heard a great deal of Henry McMaster.
He's not had presidential ambitions. I suggest most Americans have
(23:37):
heard of this predecessor, Nikki Haley. But I've always kind
of figured that, like, look, South Carolina is a pretty
darn conservative state. This really should be like the the
proving ground or testing ground for like the you know,
how good and effective can you be and how conservative
can you be? Because this is the electorate that should
have a real that overtin window goes pretty darn far
(23:59):
to the right. The state of South Carolina, by the way,
I also should point out, and again based on you know,
experience down there, it has a state has a lot
of Republicans, which is not the same thing as having
a lot of conservatives. There are a lot of state
legislators who like their big spending, like their projects, like
their you know, and so the idea of like physical
conservatism is actually a little bit tougher to sell in
(24:19):
the state of South Carolina than you might expect. Everybody
is going to come down and say, oh, I'm the
true conservative choice or something like that. Now, these names
that I've mentioned, my guess is that the only name
that people outside the state of South Carolina have heard
much of is Nancy Nace because her life is this
never ending reality show soap opera. One contrary, remember that
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she was walking around Congress with the giant a because
she felt persecuted and all that stuff. And if you
want to be a contestant on Big Brother, go for that.
If you want a reality show, if you want a
show on a cable news they go they go for that.
Don't be governor because that's a real job. That's something
we have real responsibilities to and we don't. We don't
have time for diva ish and oh look at this
(25:01):
stunt that I polled and all that kind of stuff.
So the fact that she's you know, tied for first
or you know, in a good spot unnerving And again enough,
you know, if it CERTs, if it remains a significant
five way race, you know, maybe twenty thirty percent might
be enough, depending on how the rest of the field split.
So the primary election day is June ninth, presumably, and
(25:24):
they'll have a runoff on June twenty third. This is
one of those states where you've got to do above
a certain threshold together. So like it's not like Nancy
Mace being the Republican nominee is guaranteed, but you're probably
looking at like, you know, six seven, eight months to
really get some traction against her. So I'll be hoping
for it. Not quite an endorsement on this podcast, I'm
just saying I've heard very good things about Alan Wilson,
and again I hope that you know, Republican primary voters
(25:48):
in the state aren't in kind of autopilot and just
vote for the name they've heard the most about, because
I think the state can do significantly better than Nancy Bays.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
She's good at getting attention for herself. I don't know
how much actually accomplishes, So pay attention to what's actually
been done in the record. So real quick, Jim, good
day for our teams. Yesterday, the Bears almost found a
way to blow a fourteen point lead with two minutes
to go, but they pulled it out. After giving up
that entire lead, the Jets did not lose because they
had a bye week, and poor Cincinnati Bengals fans. They
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gave up a fourteen point lead to the Jets last week,
only to watch the Jets score fifteen in the last
couple of minutes, and yesterday they got those fifteen points
to come back and then they still lost anyway, So
Bengals fans, we've been there.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Absolutely brutal for Bengals fans, my sympathies. I'm very tempted
to trash talk against you because we else so I
got a trash talk against but I I just also
you point out that the Jets did not lose, and
you know, look, if any team could manage to lose
during the bye week, it's the Jets. They also lost
ground in the tankathon in the draft order. They're not
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picking third, so that's your measurement of success. They actually
did lose during during bye week, so there's that. Greg.
I'm curious, are you finding it disorienting to have the
Bears looking pretty good this year?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Well, they're five and three. They haven't beaten anybody that's
particularly great, and most of the wins still come with
drama that shouldn't because they make things more interesting than
they are. But yes, the fact that they're in the hunt,
they're tied for second in the division, and there's still
reason to pay attention to the games because they matter.
It's a good place to be in November.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I was going to say, when the Jets are bad,
there's a saying in the among the fan base, meaningful
games in December. We're not saying we need to make
the playoffs. We're just saying we want the games in
December to manner. And of course the US Jets find
a way to make the games in November don't matter.
That's what happens when you start out oh to seven,
but you have meaningful games probably for the rest of
the way. You guys have to at five and three,
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you're probably gonna be in the playoff hunt still, at least,
you know, early to mid December or something. So I
salute you, I congratulate you. In Cincinnati Bengals fans, I
had thought that after you lose to the Jets in
that fashion, you should just disband the franchise. You just
should stop operating, just blow up the stadium. It's salty
earth than never. No, but they're gonna keep playing and
I don't know about you, but it does make me
(28:05):
happy to know that this is like at least one
fan base that might be more miserable than we are
right now.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
If the Bears had actually blown that fourteen point lead
and lost the game, we'd have been pretty miserable today too,
So we were very close to being in that position.
But anyway, Jim, Happy Monday. We'll do it again tomorrow.
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Tomorrow is election day in Virginia, New York City, and
New Jersey, and lots of places around the country, but
those places have the most watchable races for national political purposes.
(00:27):
We'll be talking about New Jersey in just a second,
and a great closing ad from Republican nominee Jack Cheddarelli.
We'll also be taking a look at a new survey
from Axios showing that American college students have it exactly
backwards on whether they're favorable towards socialism or capitalism. The
numbers are not encouraging. And we'll also talk about the
latest incident involving South Carolina Republican Congressman Nancy Mace, who
(00:51):
is now running for governor of South Carolina. Sadly, this
is not an isolated incident. Jim, Tomorrow's election day. What's
your election day routine? I already voted early. When I
did used to go and you can still do this
at the early voting locations. You know they've always got
the literature. Here's your sample ballot kind of thing. I
used to take a bunch of Democratic sample ballots, hoping
(01:13):
they would run out until the day the guy gave
me his whole stack and said, oh no, don't worry
about I got boxes still in the car. That strategy
is now no longer employed.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Did you not check turnout usually at that polling place?
And you know I need eight million copies of my voting.
I voted the silly in the morning. For a while there,
I was voting absentee. This is back when i'd be
like traveling to the Blaze or something on election day.
That's not out a suspicion of mail ballots or anything
(01:42):
like that. It just is I can do it in
the morning, and I usually try to get there around
the same time, and I try to measure what's the turnout.
It never turns out to be particularly useful in terms of, oh,
turnout as high, turnout as low, or something like that.
If you ever watching live television on election day, I'm
reported to you live from the pre work hours, and
turnout the line is out the building turnout looks like
(02:02):
it's going to be. Now you go to mid mid morning,
it's really slowed down. It's little out with lunchtime up,
there's a love of Love line again, it's going to
be a big turnout mid afternoon. Well, actually the lines
have disappeared. It's pretty empty here. It's almost as if
people vote before work, on their lunch hour or after work. Yes,
there are senior citizens and people who voted other hours,
but like, don't read too much into that. That's the
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pattern that happens every single year. It doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
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New York City. But make sure you pay attention to
your local racist too. Your vote has a significant impact
on those ballot initiatives and city council and school board
and all that stuff, So make sure you get out
to vote tomorrow. In New Jersey, close race between Mikey Cheryl,
the Democrat, the congresswoman, as well as Republican businessman Jack Chattarelli,
(04:28):
who came really close to beating Phil Murphy four years
ago but didn't quite get there, so he's the nominee again.
We've talked about Mikey Cheryl's issues with her investments, which
scored her seven million bucks conveniently as she served on
the House Armed Services Committee. She's never had a good
answer for that, and of course her problems at the
(04:48):
Naval Academy not being able to walk at commencement because
she refused to cooperate in a cheating scandal. She was
not accused of cheating, but she refused to help investigators
in that particular situation, and so she had an interview
the other day, and it's always one of these softball interviews,
just like, hey, how would you be different than Joe Biden,
Kamala Harris that trips up these Democrats. And this time
(05:09):
Mikey Cheryl has asked the extremely difficult question, if you
could pass one piece of legislation, what would it be?
Listen to this so last question, if you could ask
one piece of legislation, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Wow, I would love That's a really good question, because
there's so many that are coming to mind right now,
but right now I would love at this point to
pass legislation to as just send a federal block grant
back to the states, back to the state of New
(05:45):
Jersey to run some really key programs and innovate on them.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Was Mikey Cheryl ever miss teen South Carolina? Because that's
kind of the answer that I'm getting there about maps
in the Iraq, And I remember that one Jim from
back in the day. But you're hearing as that music's
playing and some of those other sound effects is fight inflation,
reduced crime, and proof schools. And all she gets to is, well,
we're supposed to get a block grant and so maybe
we'll use that on a few programs, and so she
(06:12):
said that so many things are coming to mind. Literally
nothing was coming to mind, which was a problem.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So I'm reminded of the question to Ted Kennedy again,
probably one of the easiest questions you're ever going to
get when you just set announce you're running for president.
Came from Roger Mud of CBS News to send then
Senator Kennedy, why do you want to be president?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Again, if you're going to run for president, you better
have an answer for that one. Butted, like Ted Kennedy,
hesitated his eyes, He's kind of oh, it just gives
this long, you know, alphabet soup of an answer with
absolutely no answers there. And I'd say, oh my god,
I haven't seen a Mud take out a presidential candidate
like that since Samuel Mudd played a role in the
(06:55):
Agricumblica assassination. See we get some really deep cut historical
jokes here on three Martin Lunch podcast. Look, this is
the basic one. This is this is about as easy
as you can use so you can get And I'm
not convinced that Cheddarelly is going to win, but I
would just note that right now, the real clear politics average.
As w I checked a few moments ago, the margin
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of error was three point one percentage points. Four years
ago they were off by four percentage points. And we remember,
you know, Phil Murphy came very close to losing that one.
So it's the same you know, variant, same problem in
the polls. Then actually Republicans could win this one. Now
you're doing the math on that, that still leads to
a one percent Republican win. So it's not that's not
a huge margin for error. I think what is you know,
(07:39):
likely to happen is publicly to get a Republicans finishing
close but no Cigar in this one, which would be
frustrating because Cheryl is a deeply flawed candidate. I know
that there is a lot like Democrats were convinced like, oh,
just like with Spamburger, we're going to go with a
suburban one that's moderate wink wink, military experience. Spamburger was
in the CIA, and Lawnman like, Ah, we're just gonna
(08:01):
we're gonna run biographical ads and we're not gonna get
into specifics and all that stuff. That should not win
in an environment like this. This should not win when
people are really angry about electricity rates and everything else.
So I'm you know, we can't say that the Republican
campaign took it easy on Cheryl as a candidate, and
we cannot say that they didn't, you know, have good
material to work with. They hit her hard. Now it's
(08:23):
you know, we'll see how the voting goes again. New
Jersey is a very blue state. You know, only only
Chris Christie has won statewide races and like the last
generation or so, so it's frustrating, but you know, we'll
see what happens. And I do think that if he
does win tomorrow, I think that changes the entire narrative.
Even if Mom Dommy wins in New York and even
necemberg Or wins in Virginia, I think people would end
up talking about that as a giant upset and assigned
(08:45):
that a state that was supposed to be safe Democrat
isn't safe at all in an environment where Democrats think
they're doing really well.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Jim, I don't know if there's much to this. I
think there's some to this. What do you make of
the argument that once we got close to election day,
the Democrats couldn't vote to reopen the gover on the
GOP's terms because it would depress their base, and that
they'll probably reopen it later this week once the elections
are done.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think there's an overestimation of how much any given
event in the news cycle affects people's voting. I don't think,
like you know, Afghanistan, you and I talked about on
this podcast a lot four years ago. It's a very
huge deal. I don't know if that affects how people
want to vote for the governor of New Jersey. I
don't know if that affects how people vot to vote
for the governor of Virginia. They're not in the military
(09:28):
chain of command. Terry McAuliffe has a lot of flaws,
and I can talk about it. I could rip into
them all day long. But in the end, he did
not make any decisions regarding Afghanistan, right, So, but on
the only I guess maybe the idea is that what's
going on in the in the news depresses people or
makes people less likely to vu. I think if people
want to vote for a person, they're going to vote.
And I'd like, oh, oh, it's a bad news cycle
for my party. Well, I'm going to stay home you know,
(09:50):
could that happen for some people in the margin? I'm sure,
But you know there are people who there was coverage
of a guy who voted for Trump twice and who
now is voting for or Mamdami up in New York City,
and you're trying to look at the event diagram of
how the Trump worldview and the Mamdamie worldview all all
the news this guy said. Now he's a huge Indianapolis
(10:11):
Colts fan up until yesterday. You know, he just wants
to back a winner. So yeah, maybe there are some
people who are just like any bit of bad news
makes them want to not vote for their candidate.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Make sure you vote tomorrow, That's all I say. Wherever
you live in the country, make sure you take that
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I'd say, also somewhat crazy Martini. This hat tip to
town Hall, but the poll is from Axios. Socialism beats
capitalism among US college students. According to a new Axios
(11:49):
Generation Lab poll, sixty seven percent of survey respondents say
they hold a positive or neutral association with the word socialism,
compared with forty percent but the word capitalism. Here are
the actual numbers. Thirty four percent of surveyed two and
four year college students say they have a somewhat or
very positive view of socialism, compared with seventeen percent who
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say the same for capitalism. Just seventeen percent negative views
of capitalism outweighing negative views of socialism by an even
greater difference. Fifty three percent have a negative view of capitalism.
Only twenty three percent overall has a negative view of socialism.
One in three has a neutral view of socialism, one
in four has a neutral view of capitalism. I'm hoping
(12:32):
the neutral people realize they don't know much about it,
and that's why they don't have an opinion. I have
a feeling that there's a lot of people who do
have an opinion that also don't know much about it.
Forty seven percent of Democrats and thirty one percent of
independence but just five percent of Republicans are favorable towards socialism.
Forty five percent of Republicans, seventeen percent of independence and
seven percent of Democrats have positive reactions to capitalism seven
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percent of Democrats. So, Jim, we know that college campuses
are not exactly breeding grounds for open thought and debate,
and the professors are pushing a lot of bad ideas
at these kids, but these numbers think they do.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And Greg, I got to tell you when you look
at that, I would have figured both Republican college students
would have supported capitalism nationwide. Secondly, you know, you and
I have talked about college students on this podcast many times,
who've been doing this for fifteen years, but it feels
different this year. So Greg, you have the numbers in
front of you. Did they break it down for incoming
freshmen of highly regarded engineering schools in Massachusetts? Because there's
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one student in particular, I expect to answer that question
really well, a bit more seriously though, this is you know,
I kind of wonder because we talked about we alluded
to the New York City Mayor's race and the Lesbrghini.
You know, there are a whole bunch of people who
are highly educated living in New York City. You know,
whole countries feel like it's got a high cost of living.
Things to bide inflation of the last couple of years.
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But like people feel like, oh, you know, I'm I
just can't get ahead. I'm looking to find jobs. None
of the jobs are paying well enough. Seems like things
get more expensive each day or each week. When you're
a student, you've lived with your parents. Your parents have
probably worked for a lot of years, and where you
are in your parenting years is probably a different spot
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than where you are when you started your career right
out of college in your early twenties. So if you're
a child, you know, if you're a college student, now
you've been living a mom and dad's time, and mom
and dad have worked their way up to have a
pretty decent lifestyle hopefully now. Different people have different circumstances.
You go into the job market, your first job is
not going to be your highest paying job. Your first
job is probably going to stink. And I've tried to
(14:36):
warn this to my kids, this sense that like when
you're starting out in any career, it's going to be
really tough. You're you're going to be paid less than
you expected. Your hour is going to be work, going
to be doing all the grunt work. Welcome to the
career ladder in the United States. By the way, I'm
open to the argument that this has actually gotten tougher
for young people that from the Internet era moving on
(14:57):
to this. You know, all the innovations of AI company
eliminate their entry level jobs. You know the number of
you know, the office person who just run around is
go for back. As an intern at the Washington bureau
of the Dallas Morning News, I like was going through
the mail, coaliting, answer the phones, refilling the toner in
the photocopier. Grunt work. This is not glamorous work, but
this is like the first run on the ladders. This
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is how you get into this office environment and how
you learn how to do things that are professional. I
suspect there are a lot of people who live pretty
comfortable with mom and dad lived, you know, fairly comfortably
in a dorm environment in college again mom and dad
paying the bills or scholarships or loans or all these
other things. And then they get into the working world
and life is hard. The career path is hard. Opportunities
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for advancement are coming as quickly and easily as they hoped,
and it gives them this sense of well, it can't
be that I'm It can't be that my sociology degree
isn't doing any good. It can't be that I didn't
you know, my pottery, you know, specialization, my women's studies,
my ethnic studies. It can't be that all that failed.
It must be the system has failed. Yeah, well, I mean, like,
you know, look around. Do you see a lot of
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billionaire of sociology majors. Do you see a lot of
people who are making money hand over fist when they know?
Probably not. So you probably have to recognize the fact
that what you choose to like, if you study really
hard stuff, you tend to do pretty well. And I'm
hoping things work out at engineering school up in Massachusetts.
But you know, it's one of those things where you
have to like get what you put into it is
kind of what you get out of it. Life is
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not going to be a very easy path. And I
think that's at the heart of this is that like, well,
I have not succeeded America they think of as a
capitalist system. By the way, talk to actual libertarians or
Republicans will point out, it's not that capitalist a system.
We have a whole bunch of different forms of government
in trevention in the economy. But fine, we'll put that aside.
They look at capitalists that, well, I haven't gotten what
I wanted. Ergo, capitalism has failed. Bernie Sanders and AOC
(16:44):
and Zoro. On Mamdandi, they're promising the moon, and I'm
sure that'll work out because history is full of examples
of socialist governments always working out.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
On key Dory, the assumption I think that a lot
of us had with Mamdannie was that he's a self
avowed socialist. So obviously this guy is unacceptable. Now that
we've got two thirds of Cowege students saying this, and
maybe some other people are saying, I don't know much
about socialism, but I know things are too expensive, Say
why not give them a shot? Does the right have
to change how we talk about this?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Look, I would love. I think, yeah, one, we might
need to talk about it, but also nothing teaches you more.
So I really think we should be running college for
exchange programs to North Korea, to Cuba, to actually, like
I'm saying this kind of tongue in cheek, but kind
of not that. Like, if you think America is a
really terrible place, and then we have you know, like,
(17:31):
does America have poverty, Sure, lots of other countries have
worcet poverty. Does America have inequality, Sure, lots of other
countries have worsity equality. America's got, you know, an imperfect
system of advancing and improving your lot in life. But
it's probably better. Like you don't see people, you don't
see Floridians jumping into rafts and try to row their
way to Cuba. Right, there's a pretty clear site. Those
rafts are only going in one direction through shark confested water.
(17:53):
That's a pretty clear signal about which system actually works.
And if you go and try to live in Cuba
as a Cuban, not to say wealthy US or Canadian
tourist or something, maybe you get a more eye opening
look at what the actual consequences of socialism is. Because
everybody keeps insisting, oh no, I want the nice Norway
form of socialism. Okay, first step, you know, discover some
enormous oil and natural gas resources. Then you can sell
(18:15):
to other countries. That makes it a lot easier to
pay for all the stuff that you want under a
socialist government.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
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jim On too, are crazy Martini now And as regular
listeners know, you have ties to South Carolina, including the
district I believe that Nancy Mace currently represents. But Nancy
Mace is not running for reelection to her district in
South Carolina. She running for governor next year, and according
to the latest polls, which is obviously quite early, she
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is neck and neck with the lieutenant governor in the
race to replace Henry McMaster. But Nancy Mace is also
famous for other things. You know. We talked about the
time that she was at a Tim Scott prayer breakfast
and she was telling a story about how the guy
she wasn't married to was trying to bring her back
to bed and she would have been late for the
prayer breakfast. She apparently goes through staff pretty regularly. She's
(20:27):
had this thing in this current Congress where she'll make
serious criminal accusations against people on the House Floor and Committee,
where the speech and debate clause covers her from any prosecution,
which won't talk about it anywhere else. Well. The latest
incident is Nancy Mace at the airport, throwing a temper tantrum,
according to The New York Post Thursday, at the Charleston
(20:48):
International Airport, loudly cursing and berating officers simply trying to
escort her to the gate. The two Charleston County Aviation
Authority Police Department officers who bore the brunt of Mace's
fury had been waiting for the congresswoman's white BMW to
arrive at the airport curb so they could whisk her
to the gate, but they never saw the vehicle arrive
because she showed up in a BMW that was a
(21:09):
different color. The officers were then notified that Mace had
arrived just fifteen minutes after they were expecting the congresswoman.
She was not met at the curb, so she wasn't happy.
She was very irate. Profanity laced at tiraate, according to
a number of people, saying that they were bleeping and
competent and this is no way to treat a bleeping
US representatives and a typical Nancy Mayce fashion. She says,
(21:30):
if in competence is your high bar, we're never going
to get along. And in a Mace administration, you will
quickly find yourself out of a job. If you know
you know so, Jim, a lot of candidates in this race.
Nancy Mace definitely good at bringing drama wherever she goes.
What do you make of her and her potential to
be governor?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, first of all, Greg, I go down to visit
my parents at least twice a year, and in that district,
I'm not saying I see thin blue line flags everywhere,
but I know I've seen some, So I just want
to go out. If you're you're like, this is no
way to treat a member of Congress, how about a
way to treat two officers of the law who've gotten picked.
Must have picked the short straw and get the all
important duty of escorting the congress one to her gate.
(22:11):
It's not unusual to do this for her child traveling alone.
But when you're you're a grown adult, I think you
may find out where your your gate is on your own.
You know, entitled spoiled diva ish, you know, obnoxious, disrespectful
to law enforcement officers. But by the way, let me
point out if she had had this kind of tie
rate in the TSA line after being told for the
(22:32):
millions of times that you know, you want to have
your less than three ounce liquid or gel into a
plastic bag or something. Okay, I could have cut her
some slack. I get kind of you know, I got
kind of annoyed by TSA people, But really, you're a
member of Congress. We should be able to expect a
little better. I also want to point out that, like
when she's running for governor, this is not exactly a
field of little known people you mentioned, you know, being
(22:52):
tied with the Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Avett. State Senator Josh Krimble,
also another member of the state's delegation to Congress, Ralph Norman,
is running. If people are wondering where who are Jim's
sources in the state of South Carolina, giving him a
perspective on state lawmakers sources who may or may not
be in my family trade. I've just been singing the
praises of State Attorney General Alan Wilson for a long time. Now,
(23:17):
this is my ways the son of Joe Wilson, you lie,
you know this, you know, but he's been in this
job for two terms and just been like your platonic
ideal of what you want a Republican state attorney general
to do. And I'm going to point out that, like
probably nationwide, you haven't heard a great deal of Henry McMaster.
He's not had presidential ambitions. I suggest most Americans have
(23:37):
heard of this predecessor, Nikki Haley. But I've always kind
of figured that, like, look, South Carolina is a pretty
darn conservative state. This really should be like the the
proving ground or testing ground for like the you know,
how good and effective can you be and how conservative
can you be? Because this is the electorate that should
have a real that overtin window goes pretty darn far
(23:59):
to the right. The state of South Carolina, by the way,
I also should point out, and again based on you know,
experience down there, it has a state has a lot
of Republicans, which is not the same thing as having
a lot of conservatives. There are a lot of state
legislators who like their big spending, like their projects, like
their you know, and so the idea of like physical
conservatism is actually a little bit tougher to sell in
(24:19):
the state of South Carolina than you might expect. Everybody
is going to come down and say, oh, I'm the
true conservative choice or something like that. Now, these names
that I've mentioned, my guess is that the only name
that people outside the state of South Carolina have heard
much of is Nancy Nace because her life is this
never ending reality show soap opera. One contrary, remember that
(24:39):
she was walking around Congress with the giant a because
she felt persecuted and all that stuff. And if you
want to be a contestant on Big Brother, go for that.
If you want a reality show, if you want a
show on a cable news they go they go for that.
Don't be governor because that's a real job. That's something
we have real responsibilities to and we don't. We don't
have time for diva ish and oh look at this
(25:01):
stunt that I polled and all that kind of stuff.
So the fact that she's you know, tied for first
or you know, in a good spot unnerving And again enough,
you know, if it CERTs, if it remains a significant
five way race, you know, maybe twenty thirty percent might
be enough, depending on how the rest of the field split.
So the primary election day is June ninth, presumably, and
(25:24):
they'll have a runoff on June twenty third. This is
one of those states where you've got to do above
a certain threshold together. So like it's not like Nancy
Mace being the Republican nominee is guaranteed, but you're probably
looking at like, you know, six seven, eight months to
really get some traction against her. So I'll be hoping
for it. Not quite an endorsement on this podcast, I'm
just saying I've heard very good things about Alan Wilson,
and again I hope that you know, Republican primary voters
(25:48):
in the state aren't in kind of autopilot and just
vote for the name they've heard the most about, because
I think the state can do significantly better than Nancy Bays.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
She's good at getting attention for herself. I don't know
how much actually accomplishes, So pay attention to what's actually
been done in the record. So real quick, Jim, good
day for our teams. Yesterday, the Bears almost found a
way to blow a fourteen point lead with two minutes
to go, but they pulled it out. After giving up
that entire lead, the Jets did not lose because they
had a bye week, and poor Cincinnati Bengals fans. They
(26:19):
gave up a fourteen point lead to the Jets last week,
only to watch the Jets score fifteen in the last
couple of minutes, and yesterday they got those fifteen points
to come back and then they still lost anyway, So
Bengals fans, we've been there.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Absolutely brutal for Bengals fans, my sympathies. I'm very tempted
to trash talk against you because we else so I
got a trash talk against but I I just also
you point out that the Jets did not lose, and
you know, look, if any team could manage to lose
during the bye week, it's the Jets. They also lost
ground in the tankathon in the draft order. They're not
(26:51):
picking third, so that's your measurement of success. They actually
did lose during during bye week, so there's that. Greg.
I'm curious, are you finding it disorienting to have the
Bears looking pretty good this year?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Well, they're five and three. They haven't beaten anybody that's
particularly great, and most of the wins still come with
drama that shouldn't because they make things more interesting than
they are. But yes, the fact that they're in the hunt,
they're tied for second in the division, and there's still
reason to pay attention to the games because they matter.
It's a good place to be in November.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I was going to say, when the Jets are bad,
there's a saying in the among the fan base, meaningful
games in December. We're not saying we need to make
the playoffs. We're just saying we want the games in
December to manner. And of course the US Jets find
a way to make the games in November don't matter.
That's what happens when you start out oh to seven,
but you have meaningful games probably for the rest of
the way. You guys have to at five and three,
(27:44):
you're probably gonna be in the playoff hunt still, at least,
you know, early to mid December or something. So I
salute you, I congratulate you. In Cincinnati Bengals fans, I
had thought that after you lose to the Jets in
that fashion, you should just disband the franchise. You just
should stop operating, just blow up the stadium. It's salty
earth than never. No, but they're gonna keep playing and
I don't know about you, but it does make me
(28:05):
happy to know that this is like at least one
fan base that might be more miserable than we are
right now.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
If the Bears had actually blown that fourteen point lead
and lost the game, we'd have been pretty miserable today too,
So we were very close to being in that position.
But anyway, Jim, Happy Monday. We'll do it again tomorrow.
See then, See tomorrow, Greg, Jim Garretty, National Review. I'm
Greg Corumbus of Radio America. Thanks so much for being
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