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November 5, 2025 29 mins
Hillsdale College Radio General Manager and Radio Free Hillsdale Hour host Scot Bertram fills in for Jim on Wednesday’s 3 Martini Lunch. Join Scot and Greg as they break down Democrats’ bigger-than-expected wins in Virginia and New Jersey, Zohran Mamdani coasting to victory in New York City, and several ballot initiatives that mostly went the wrong way.

First, they dig into Virginia, where Democrat Abigail defeated Lt. Gov. Winsome Earle-Sears by nearly 15 points, outperforming every major poll. That landslide also helped rage texter Jay Jones win the attorney general’s race by six points, while Democrats picked up 13 seats in the state legislature. In New Jersey, Democrat Mikie Sherrill beat Jack Ciattarelli by 13 points. The wins were not shocking, but the margins were, and Scot and Greg break down what those results mean heading into 2026.

Next, they come to grips with Zohran Mamdani winning the New York City mayor's race by taking comfort that Andrew Cuomo won't be mayor. They also highlight some very ominous indications of what's to come from Mamdani's victory speech. Dems will undoubtedly try to mimic his smiley socialism in some parts of the country next year. Are Republicans ready to fight it?

Finally, they analyze key ballot measures across the country, including strong conservative victories in Texas protecting parental rights and requiring proof of citizenship to vote. But not all results went the right way, as Gavin Newsom’s gerrymander gimmick passed easily in California, and Colorado voters approved a tax hike on the wealthy to fund free school meals.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. Grab a stool next
to Greg Corumbus of Radio America and Jim Garrity of
National Review. Free martinis coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
So glad you're with us for the Wednesday edition of
the Three mar Tiny Lunch. Jim Garrity is away, and
yes this was scheduled. He's not depressed as a result
of the election results last night, so we'll be getting
into all of that in just a moment. Instead of Jim, today,
we're happy to have Scott Bertram, general manager of WRFH
Radio Free Hillsdale on the campus of Hillsdale College one

(00:35):
on one point seven FM. He's also the director of
the Hillsdale College podcast Network and hosts many of those podcasts,
including the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Scott, how are you well, Greg, I'm in black. Good morning.
It was not intentional, but it worked out for this purpose. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Not a good election night. We'll be taking a look
at Virginia in some debt and then also what happened
in New York City as well as some ballot measures.
Republicans did get a couple of those in Texas, but
for the most part, bad news on that front.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
As well, yeah, and don't forget the all important Hillsdale
City mayoral election, which we can touch on for a
good fifteen to twenty minutes later on too.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Was that a humdinger?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Did that come down to us about a thousand total
votes and the candidates were separated by sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Ooh, that is pretty tight.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
That's pretty although in terms of percentage, it's this six
point win, which sounds big and then you look and oh, yeah,
it's like sixty votes.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, as I'm thinking about this, Scott, I'm thinking about
our Chicago Bears, who so far this season have done
a little more of something than we're used to. It's
called winning. And so sometimes after we see these wins,
they take the cameras in the locker rooms and the
new Bears coach Ben Johnson has this thing when he's
really firing up the team where he goes good, better, best,

(01:48):
and this is the exact rest.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, I watched those two.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yes, these electors also the exact opposite of that. I
don't know if we're going bad, worst, worst or some
other order here, but it's not going to be fun.
But it's important to know what happened and potentially why.
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there's two races that we can be very cautiously optimistic about,

(03:21):
and there are others we really can't be. It seemed
like Mamdani pretty much had New York City wrapped up,
and it looked like Abigail Spanburger was going to win
Virginia pretty comfortably. You and I've actually talked about that before.
So I was thinking, maybe Jack Chedarelli in New Jersey
for the governor's race. He came so close four years ago.
Those poles have been pretty tight, and maybe Jay Jones

(03:41):
goes down in the attorney General's race if Abigail Spanburger
doesn't win by too much. She won by too much.
And so the span in the governor's race was Abigail
Spanburger by fourteen and a half points. And there actually
was a decent amount of ticket splitting here. But when
you're the lead of of your ticket wins by more
than fourteen points, you're not going to split that many tickets.

(04:04):
So j Jones unfortunately gets elected, hide your children, hide
his political opponents. He wins by six points that's a
decent amount of tickets splitting, but you just can't make
up that kind of ground. Also, the Virginia House of Delegates,
all one hundred seats were up yesterday. It had been
a fifty one forty nine margin in favor of the Democrats,
so razor thin. It's now sixty four to thirty six.

(04:28):
With Abigail Spanberger coming in as governor. The Democrats still
also narrowly control the state Senate, which was not up
at all yesterday. They controlled that twenty one to nineteen,
and I promise you none of those twenty one are moderates.
So basically, the Democrats are going to ram a lot
down our throats here in Virginia next year, and it
is not going to be fun. Scott. We've talked about

(04:50):
this before with Abigail Spanberger and Win Some Seers Sears
campaign really focusing on Jay Jones and bathrooms, two per
fine issues, but that seemed to be the whole campaign,
and they never really got around to explaining what win
some Sears wanted to do for you for four years.
And also I would say that just given the headwinds

(05:10):
facing a Republican in Virginia this year, winning was going
to be very, very hard anyway, but the way that
campaign was run made it impossible.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I was not optimistic about chances virtually anywhere, except in
the Atroity General's race when you hope that the J.
Jones rhetoric was too far even for Democrats. That did
not prove to be the case. But I was not
optimistic about Virginia governor, not optimistic about New Jersey governor.
Certainly not optimistic about New New York City mayor, no

(05:39):
matter who won that one, unless sleeve without a couple
million votes in his back pocket somehow. So the results
don't necessarily surprise me. Some of the down ballot stuff
for some of the races that are that were not
sort of top of the line, all those going against
Republicans as well. It's this first election after a presidential election.

(06:00):
The circumstances, the environment was not it was not the
same as when Chris Christian and Bob McDonald won all
those years ago, and so I was not all that optimistic.
The margin to victory in some of those races moderately surprising,
and I think some of the information we can glean
from that. You know, the best news about last night,

(06:20):
for Republicans is that the midterms are still a year away.
There's time to course correct, there's time to fix things.
But across the board. Another reason I'm not optimistic. It
was not optimistic. This is nothing new, Greg, It is
not new that Republicans struggle mightily in off your elections,

(06:40):
and particularly when Donald Trump is not on the ballot.
I think you and I talked about this on the
show I hosted last week. Correct, how can you replicate
that turnout? Will we see that the Trump electorate return
in this election that that came out in the presidential
election in twenty four. Clearly that answer is no. And

(07:02):
I saw some numbers of Hispanic voters in some of
these races earlier today. That should be very concerning that
those who shifted toward Trump in twenty four, at least
those who showed up this time in twenty five, are
shifting hard back toward the left. Things can change quickly.
It's a year until the midterms. That's the best news

(07:24):
because you have time to change course correct here what
the voters are telling you, and maybe change strategy because
all this stuff last night, that's a bloodbath in November
of twenty six.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Now that's true, and you're right. And other people have
pointed out that these are three blue areas of varying intensity,
New York City obviously being the most intense, and then
New Jersey probably and then Virginia, and so with a
Republican president in office, it's unlikely that any of that
was going to go well, and with Donald Trump in office,
definitely unlikely to go well. And then you've got the

(07:56):
situations with Doge and the shutdown, which is clearly the
Pocrat's fault, but I nothern Virginia, they don't care. They're
going to blame the Republicans for it anyway. And other
people have said that while you know, inflation is still
in check for now, people still think stuff's too expensive
and they're gonna blame whoever they think is in charge,
and that's that's the Republicans. So yeah, I mean, if
you look back at twenty seventeen in Virginia, that was

(08:16):
a neck and neck race between Ralph Northam and Ed
Gillespie in the polls. Anyway, in the end, Ralph Northam
wins by nine. They pick up a bunch of seats
in the legislature, and the twenty eighteen midterms Republicans lost
the House and actually gained in the Senate thanks to
some of the favorable matchups that they had and right
after the Kavanagh hearings, but it was not a good
mid term for Republicans then, So twenty twenty six going

(08:39):
to be interesting. Well, with all these jerrymandered maps, maybe
there won't be quite as big of a shift as
we might normally see, but Republicans should at least pay
attention that people are not happy right now in some
of these places, and they need to have a more
coherent message, because they certainly did not. In Virginia, Jack Cheddarelli,
I think was a much better candidate than win some sears.

(08:59):
That's a deep blue state. He actually got more votes
than he got four years ago. But Mikey Cheryl easily
set a record for the most votes in a good
editorial election there. And so the Democrat turnout machine was
amped up yesterday and the Republicans couldn't keep up. And
so they need to make sure that whatever worked for
them in twenty twenty four in terms of getting people
to the polls better be working and better be up
and running in twenty twenty six, or else they're going

(09:21):
to suffer the same fate that they suffered last night.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
You've got to go back to economics and issues related
to the economy. I know there's some exploitat Oh, people
really hate the ballroom, all right, it's you know, it's
the kitchen tabled issues and it's economics. And what do
you see. You see high inflation which is not growing.
But as you mentioned earlier, Greg prices are still high

(09:44):
and everyone feels them when they go grocery shopping or
whatever it might be, and they're looking for someone to
blame or something to be fixed. Yes, the price of
eggs is not as high as it was when Trump
came into office, but there's still field they're paying too
much for a lot of stuff, and then you have
tariffs perhaps raising prices on items for Americans. That line,

(10:07):
I feel like it's going to be used in an
ad at some point where I think it was Donald
Trump himself who said, maybe your daughter needs only one
doal this Christmas? Like, that's not the messaging that's going
to hit home to voters who are looking at balancing
a checkbook and figure out how they're going to pay
for this and that and mortgage and hiring is not

(10:27):
as robust as it has been in the past. Stock
market is doing well, but there are all these little
things that add up very quickly. And a year, almost
a year into President Trump's term, the question voters are asking,
at least I think that we heard last night, is
what exactly have you done to fix these things? And
I don't know if there's a tremendous answer, yet.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
It's a good point. It always comes down to that, right,
only when the economy is good to voters start worrying
about other issues and potentially putting them ahead of the economy.
But if they're frustrated with that, that's always going to
be number one. It crushed the Democrats and it certainly
did not help the Republicans this year. So we'll talk
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(12:16):
onto New York City, and the polls were pretty consistent
all through the fall that Mamdani was ahead, Cuomo was
in second, Sliwa was in third. Even when Eric Adams
dropped out, nothing really changed, and so Cuomo's strategy over
the last couple of weeks was Sliwa voters, you're throwing
your votes away, you might as well be voting from Donnie,
And so a lot of people actually followed that advice.

(12:39):
Le Whata ended up well below where he had been polling,
with only seven point one percent of the vote, but
Donnie got more than fifty percent, fifty point four, which
means obviously, if you add Cuomo and Sliwa together, Cuomo
still doesn't get there. And so if there's any silver lining,
it's that Andrew Cuomo's political career would seem to be over.
Although I'm pretty sure I said that when he was
forced to science coven Or two, so you never really know.

(13:02):
But Zo ron Bumdanni, the smiling socialist who is always
just oh, I didn't really mean that about defunding cops
or calling them the worst bigots, or saying I'd had
rest Net and Yahoo and I don't bother me with
hamas commentary. All this stuff. The mask came off a
little bit last night, as it usually does with these
socialists once they know that they are going to have power.

(13:24):
He talked to some extent about the little people who
got him elected as mayor of New York City. But
for a guy who's really focused on the common man.
He sure is obsessed with the guy in the White House.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
So, Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have
four words for you, turn the volume up, all right.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
So he's planning on trolling Trump, perhaps Gavin Newsom style.
I don't know, but here's the quote, Scott, you flagged
this one that should be terrifying to absolutely everyone. Listen
to this clip from Donnie's victory space.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
We will prove that there is no problem too large
for government to solve and no concern too small for
it to care about.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Government's going to be wedging itself into every nook and
cranny of your life. So get ready for that New
York City. As some people have said, you wanted this,
and now you're going to get it good and hard.
So what do you make of this win.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's a far cry from Reagan's nine most frightening words.
I'm from the government, and I'm here to help. Now
we have I'm from the government, and I take care
of fewer concerns big and small. Tell me what you need.
And it also is is sort of ironic coming on
the heels of the No King's protest. That sounds very
King like nothing we can solve and nothing we won't

(14:41):
dig our fingers into the new slogan of the New
York City government. I thought it was interesting. He barely
got fifty percent of the vote, so he barely has
the majority of the vote across the city, and he's
going to be the new face of the Democratic Party. Certainly,
if Republicans have anything to say about it, they're going

(15:02):
to try to hang these policies, rhetoric, socialism, communism around
Mam Donnie's neck and then by extension, around Democrats across
the country. And how he governs out of the gate
certainly could impact how effective that strategy is on behalf
of Republicans, even inching toward the midterm, as we say

(15:23):
it's a year away. As you look into some of
the numbers, and this was true in the primary too,
you know who are his supporters. It's the relatively wealthy
and the educated. Mam Donnie won those with bachelor's degrees
and advanced degrees. He got fifty seven percent of the
vote exit polls, fifty seven percent of the vote for

(15:45):
both those categories. No high school degree, high school graduate,
some college associates degree, All of those sectors backed Andrew Cuomo.
And so who's vote, you know, exactly who's vote for
Mom Donnie. What do they expect him to do to
help them is focus on affordability, sort of dovetails. What

(16:08):
we talked about previously were the economy is still front
and center. You live in an expensive place like New
York City, and even those people who have bachelor's degree
and advanced degrees and are making one hundred and twenty
thousand dollars a year, perhaps that doesn't go as far
in New York City as it does elsewhere across the country.
All of a sudden they become people saying, hey, we
need help, help us making six figures a year. And

(16:31):
then what happens to those people who are below that line.
They look at Mom Donnie, and they look at the
policies and proposals and free this and free that, and
they rejected it as much as they could. Certainly there
was still some support for Mom Donni, but the plurality
of those voters were Cuomo supporters. So this and if
you look at a map of New York I saw

(16:51):
it this morning, the map of New York where the
Mam Donnie support is. You know, some on Manhattan, although
Cuomo had some very strong pockets Manhattan, but Brooklyn, and
I'm not from New York, and I don't know exactly,
you know, the the how you would describe each borough, right,
but I know that there has been some jokes. St
Al has made some jokes at the expense of those

(17:12):
who live in Brooklyn, and it's sort of those educated, young,
highly compensated people who are trending very hard left. That's
where a lot of Mam Donnie's strength appeared to be
in this race. But we look towards Chicago. You know,
Brandon Johnson is not quite the avowed socialist that Mam
Donnie is, although you could describe his governing style that

(17:34):
way certainly, but he is loud and brash and attacks Trump.
And there's a lot of echoes of Mam Donnie and
what we saw and what we see in Brandon Johnson
in Chicago at his time in office has been a
disaster and he still has years to go. And I
don't think that Chicago residents we saw him with historically
low approval numbers even after he was put into office

(17:55):
by those same voters. Will New York City residents and
voter is quickly regret a vote for Mom Donnie. I think,
judging by Mom Donni, the candidate is a more talented
candidate than Johnson and Chicago. Johnson's propped up by the
teachers' unions who just put so much money into his
race to win their The York Time story today about

(18:16):
the kind of people who were drawn to his campaign,
and it sounds like they It sounds like, you know,
young again, young, semi well earning, highly educated people who
have found a new religion, they have found they found
a purpose by by injecting themselves into the Mamdanti campaign
and being invested in his success. And he found a

(18:37):
way to really connect with those type of voters, and
I think that explains some of that success.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I think that's right. And we just talked, Jim and
I just talked earlier this week about a poll from
Axios showing that college students and you know, people just
older than that, I don't think would be too different.
Sixty seven percent now have a favorable or neutral view
towards socialism, only forty percent favorable or neutral towards capitalism.
I'm guessing those members would vary quite a bit at Hillsdale.
But when are going to look at the national picture.

(19:04):
That's the situation. So we were talking as a result
of that poll, you can't just throw the word socialist
out there anymore because Democrats are going to put a
smiling face on it. You're going to see a lot
of them Donnie Clones running for Congress now parroting exactly
what he says. Some of them will win their nominations.
Maybe a lot of them will win their nominations. So
I think Republicans need to come up with a very

(19:26):
concrete way of combating this ideology instead of just rolling
the word socialists out there and thinking everybody's going to
run away scared. It's not going to work that way
right now.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
It's not Democrats are split in a way between you know,
we've got to moderate or I've got to be more
aggressively left. And there is part of the part of
the celebration last night about mom Donnie and the fact
that you know, the good bit a trutal candidates in
Virginia and New Jersey are being cold moderates. But but

(19:54):
not they're not real mode, you know they are. They're
sort of female political candidate. It's designed in a lab
to be palatable to a large section of the electorate,
But on policy and particularly on social issues cultural issues,
they're pretty they're pretty far left. And so is that
where the Democrats go to really embrace this aggressive extreme

(20:18):
and in the right places. You can't do this everywhere.
The right place is, you know, truly admittedly and about
you know, sort of socialist approach to campaigning and governing.
And then tie that into or pair that with, as
you mentioned, this Trump like approach toward baiting the opponent

(20:40):
finding traction on social media. Is that going to be
the new recipe for success for Democrats as they look
to perhaps win the Senate in twenty six.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
They're going to see this as a winning formula. They're
going to copycat that, and they may do well with
that in twenty six, hopefully not. But then the results
of New York City and other things are going to
pile in and by twenty twenty eight they're either going
to have to reverse skate really hard or they're going
to run into a brick wall. I think because of that,
because by then people will start to see the effects
of this. Now, there's certain things Mam Donnie can do.

(21:12):
He can in the council can push up property taxes.
They can't do anything with income taxes. That's a state issue.
But there's a lot of damage that he can do
in a relatively short period of time because there's plenty
of ideological allies on that city council as well. One
quick coda on this. I know Jim's not here today,
but yesterday his beloved New York Jets traded away two
of their best defensive players and one of the memes

(21:33):
I saw was Zoorun Mamdani. Isn't even officially mayor yet
and millionaires are already leaving New York City. So find out.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Although technically, you know, Jets are in New Jersey, they're
across the river. Maybe it is. Maybe it's the goodb
edatorial races.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's right, that's right. They don't want to deal with
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(22:57):
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with the ballot initiatives that we're out there, and the
one that got the most attention heading into the election
was Proposition fifty. Out in California, We're Gavin Newsom, supposedly,
in response to the redistricting in Texas, decided to redraw
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(23:19):
it has to be done by an independent commission. But
don't worry, it's only temporary. It's only temporary. Democrats won't
be drawing maps in perpetuity, so they say. But as
Jim and I reported last week, the opposition basically folded
up their tents, cut off the money, and went home
last week. So to no surprise, the initiative passed pretty
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(23:41):
count most of their votes. It's sixty three point eight
percent to thirty six point two percent, with seventy five
percent of the vote. In one that caught my attention, Scott,
Colorado voters have proved a measure to increase taxes on
high income families and use the money to fund universal
free breakfast and lunch for K twelve students. Now, we're
used to seeing ballot initiatives for increasing the millage or

(24:03):
a bond proposal, but everybody ends up paying that to
some extent when you vote for that. This is a
referendum where you can have a lot of people saying, yeah,
I think we should spend more money on that, and
those people should have to pay for it. We didn't
get a couple of wins on ballot proposals. In Texas.
One enshrines in the state constitution the idea that quote

(24:25):
a parent has the responsibility to nurture and protect the
parent's child and the corresponding fundamental right to exercise care,
custody and control of the parent's child, including the right
to make decisions concerning the child's upbringing. Also, they passed
a referendum to require US citizenship proof of citizenship to
vote in Texas. So, Scott, I'm sure there are others

(24:46):
out there too. What stands out to you most?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
The Colorado question is interesting. Illinois had an advisory referendum
on the ballot I think in twenty four that just
asked a general question, should we taxt millionaders more to
pay for X property tax relief? But whatever it was,
and it did pass it. No, it was not binding
by any stretch. It was an advisory referendum. This one
in Colorado is binding. It will tax high income families.

(25:11):
I didn't see. I was trying to find it quickly.
If what that's what high income means in Colorado. Again,
not necessarily a surprise. Colorado has been lurching leftward in
more blue in recent years, so something like this passing
with almost sixty percent support is not all that much
of a surprise. We talked about congressional maps quickly. This

(25:32):
should be concerning and it should not be all that
much of a surprise. Which is the electric changes all
the time, and as you are redrawing these maps, or
attempting to redraw maps in the middle of a cycle,
you can't guarantee the same voters are going to be
there that were there last election. And you're going to

(25:55):
hear the phrase dummy mander here soon, because whether it
be in Texas or California or elsewhere, the question will
be are you trying to do too much in trying
to find five new Democratic seats in California or however
many in Texas or Indiana or wherever this goes. And
again Republicans have struggled when Trump is not on the ballot.

(26:18):
Trump is not going to be on the ballot for
these redistricting races in various states. How hard will he
work personally, perhaps in some places, to turn out the
vote to make sure the districts that are drawn to
be more Republican actually turn out Republican winners in those races.
I think that's a huge question right now. A lot

(26:40):
of a Texas remap is because of what happened along
the border and the theoretical realignment of Hispanic voters along
the border. Well, Donald Trump's did a great job along
the border. Donald Trump has stopped that flow of illegal
immigrants across the border. What if voters say it's fixed
and we don't have to come out anymore? Right There
are so many questions, and I think last night's results, again,

(27:03):
this should not have been unforeseen that you cannot guarantee
the same voters come out election after election, and even
on a regular cycle when states redraw districts after a census,
sometimes it only takes one cycle for that new lock
solid blue district to be cracked for various reasons by
a Republican candidate. So nothing is nothing is guaranteed, Nothing

(27:26):
goes on in perpetuity, and no matter what the plans
are for California, Texas, various states, there's still a lot
of uncertainty about what that might look like by the
time the elections rolled around.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
It's going to be fascinating to watch how this plays
into twenty twenty six. But hopefully the Republican's got a
bit of a wake up call. It's not a sky
is falling type moment, but it's a you better pay
attention at type moment, because it's not the losses, it's
the size of the losses. You've got to be ready
for the fact that Democrats they're very energized right now. Unfortunately,
in fact, even up in Maine, voter ID, which has

(27:59):
like seventy five percent approval nationwide, got shot down by
a pretty wide marchin.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Sixty four thirty six.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, that's that's not good. That's not good. So Scott
wish we had happier news to talk about. But you know,
at least the Bears didn't give that whole game away
on Sunday and we're five and three, so I guess
we got that going for us, which is nice.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
And the Giants this weekend, so yes, hopefully, Kate. That's
its a win yet, but that's an opponent you like
to play.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Scott, great to have you with us, have a great week.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Thank you, Greg, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Scott Bertram is the general manager of WRFH Radio Free
Hillsdale one on one point seven on the campus of
Hillsdale College. He's also the director of the Hillsdale College
podcast network and host many of them, including the Radio
Free Hillsdale Hour. He's also the co host of Wasn't
That Special Fifty years of Saturday Night Live. I'm Greg
Corumbus of Radio America. Thanks for being with us today.
Please subscribe to the Three Martini Lunch if you don't already,

(28:49):
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(29:11):
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