September 24, 2025 • 25 mins
Join Jim and Greg for the Wednesday 3 Martini Lunch as they react to breaking news of a shooting at an ICE detention facility in Dallas, Google admitting to censoring content at the Biden administration’s request, and Senate Democrats holding a very weak position ahead of a looming government shutdown.
First, they share the latest details revealed about Wednesday morning's deadly shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas. The shooter hit multiple people, apparently migrants, before turning the gun on himself. Authorities also discovered shell casings with anti-ICE messages, raising concerns of politically motivated violence. Jim and Greg are waiting for more information but its clear we have not seen the end of political violence in this country.
Next, they dive into Google's admission that it censored YouTube content as requested by the Biden administration, including some people in the White House. Google's parent company, Alphabet, says many accounts were shut down even though content creators had not violated the terms of service.
Finally, they analyze the high-stakes budget fight on Capitol Hill as Republicans push to fund the government at current levels while Democrats resist. With Senate Democrats in a weak negotiating position, Chuck Schumer faces the challenge of avoiding another internal backlash like he endured in the last spending standoff.
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First, they share the latest details revealed about Wednesday morning's deadly shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas. The shooter hit multiple people, apparently migrants, before turning the gun on himself. Authorities also discovered shell casings with anti-ICE messages, raising concerns of politically motivated violence. Jim and Greg are waiting for more information but its clear we have not seen the end of political violence in this country.
Next, they dive into Google's admission that it censored YouTube content as requested by the Biden administration, including some people in the White House. Google's parent company, Alphabet, says many accounts were shut down even though content creators had not violated the terms of service.
Finally, they analyze the high-stakes budget fight on Capitol Hill as Republicans push to fund the government at current levels while Democrats resist. With Senate Democrats in a weak negotiating position, Chuck Schumer faces the challenge of avoiding another internal backlash like he endured in the last spending standoff.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
and Jim Garrity of National Review.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Free Martini's coming up.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Really glad you're with us for the Wednesday edition of
The Three Martini Lunch. I think we had a fairly
lighthearted episode planned for you, But now we know more
details from that shooting near the ice facility in Dallas, Texas.
We'll get into all the details on that in just
a moment. But Jim, it's been exactly two weeks since
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. We talked earlier this week
(00:34):
about those two other incidents in Sacramento and New Hampshire
and now this, and it appears that anyone who thought
that any of these might be isolated incidents or not
a significant problem, it's a significant problem.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Greg, I was really hoping we could get through a
week without discussing some terrible act of violence, you know,
reset the counter. It has been zero week since we've
had not had to talk about one of them, but alas,
that is what's front and center in the news today.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We'll also talk about the showdown over spending in Congress,
just about a week before the end of the fiscal year.
And we'll also be talking about Google's admission that they
pretty much did the Biden administration's bidding and censoring content
that the Biden administration did not appreciate. So a lot
to get to today, as always, but to first, and
given the headline that we just talked about, it's certainly
(01:24):
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news stories constantly talking about. All Right, Jim, as mentioned,
I think you and I both woke up to the
news shortly after waking up hearing about this news this morning.
There had been a shooting at the ice facility in Dallas,
and that it was in the area of the facility
(01:47):
where transfers are made bringing detainees in, transferring them out,
whatever the situation may be. And it appears that there
was a shooter and attempted sniper from an elevated position.
From what we're hearing at this point, it appears only
detainees were hit, and it appears at least one of
them is dead. The shooter is believed to have died
from a self inflicted gunshot wound. There was a press
(02:10):
conference just a little while ago just before we started recording.
Here is FBI Special Agent in Charge Joe Rothrock from
the Dallas FBI.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I can confirm at this time that the FBI is
investigating this incident as an act of targeted violence. It is, unfortunately,
just the most recent example we've seen of targeted violence
to include here in North Texas. We're back on July fourth,
we saw a coordinate attack carried out against an immigration
detention center in Albareto, Texas. What I can also share
(02:40):
with you is a early evidence that we've seen from
rounds that were found near the suspected shooter contain messages
that are anti ice in nature. Again, this is just
the most recent example of this type of attack. This
will be a whole of government spots. There will be
(03:01):
no resource not utilized to bring all those individuals who
are responsible, to bring them to justice and to hold
them accountable. While we're not releasing identities of any victims
at this time, what I can't confirm you for you
is no members of law enforcement were hurt during this attack.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So that's the latest from Dallas. There'll be other updates
throughout the day, and I think that gives us enough
to go on to analyze here a little bit, Jim,
because once we started to hear that the shooter was
down and the only people hit were migrants, it's one
of two things. Either it's somebody who wanted to target
the migrants or somebody targeting Ice in was a bad shot,
and so it turns out to be the latter, especially
(03:43):
with the information about the casings. We don't know exactly
what was written on them, but it's very similar to
other instances, including the shooter in Utah two weeks ago.
So what do you make of the latest.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, listeners probably ought to know that you and I
debated whether this should be one of our featured martinis
for the day. You know, there was not a lot
of clear evidence or information coming out until right before
we started taping, and then the declaration from the FBI
that the shellcasing messages etched in there were anti ice,
which certainly seems to point in a clear direction. Sometimes
(04:15):
in the news commentary business is a they call it
a twenty four hour rule that you know, whenever there's
a mass shooting, whenever there's some act of violence, a
lot of misinformation floats around. You Often hear during a
shooting reports of a second shooter. Sometimes that comes from
echoes and things like that. So I understand the hesitation.
On the other hand, people want to know what happened,
and people want to know who did this, why did
(04:36):
they do this? You know, what was going on here?
And I almost wonder, greg in light of the aftermath
of the Charlie Kirk shooting, in which there was a
man hunt for the perpetrator. In the interim when the
perpetrator was captured, this widespread belief in usually in hard
left progressive circles, people who wanted to believe, oh, it
(04:58):
was a maga guy. Wasn't Jamel Hill or somebody was
saying this was, you know, a white supremacist on white
supremacist violence. It was something like this different set of
facts got in there, and you saw all kinds of
fairly prominent liberals, the Lawrence tribes of the world, coming
on acting as if it had been proven fact that
the shooter had been Maga, angry at Charlie Kirk for
(05:18):
not being right wing enough. I almost wonder it. Look,
law enforcement is, you know, it's got to put out
the information when it's appropriate, But I almost wonder if
putting this out there is a effort to dissuade anyone
from an erroneous conclusion. Here, when you put in anti
ICE onto your shell casings, that does not indicate that
you are there because you really hate illegal immigrants and
(05:38):
you don't want ICE to do their jobs. That indicates
you don't want ICE to do their jobs and you
hate them for doing so. Again, words do not spontaneously
make some nut job decides start run out and start
shooting people. But if you constantly describe ICE agents as fascists,
if you start, you know, jack booted thugs and all
that stuff, is there always a chance that some nut
(05:59):
out there is going to take you seriously and say, oh,
well these are Nazis. Well I might as well go
shoot them. I might as well fight them. This is
time for us to do that again. You know, we
have to respect the First Amendment. But you do start
to wonder if this constant demonization of immigrations and Customs
enforcement officials turns into something where somebody out there is like, well,
if I shoot them, I will be greeted as a hero. Again,
(06:21):
does this mean ICE is above criticism? Heck no, Does
this mean that there's no we can't have impassioned debates
about immigration policy, not at all. But people have been saying, oh,
why are ice agents wearing masks? Well, because there are
a bunch of nut jobs out there who want to
kill them, that's why. And if they know their faces,
then they find out their their names and identities, they
can find the home addresses. You know, I really wish
(06:43):
it were not so, but that you know, the wearing
of the masks starts to feel logical, starts to feel
like an inevitable preventative measure. And Greg, I believe California
just banned law enforcement officials from wearing masks. We're a
long way from COVID, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, we sure are. I'm not sure that that
can app f lie to federal authorities. I know there's
a bit debate about that. Gavin Newsom certainly thinks it can.
But yes, we're going to learn a whole lot more,
and we don't want to jump to any more conclusions
than what we just heard in that press conference. Senator
Ted Cruz did take a couple of questions after the
law enforcement officials left and basically said, what you said,
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Jim onto our second bad martini today. And the Alphabet
is apologizing.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Alphabet is the parent company of Google, and they are
apologizing essentially for doing the Biden administration's bidding when it
comes to censoring content the Biden administration did not like.
And so this all comes in a letter to the
House Oversight Committee from Alphabet, the parent company of Google,
admitting they shut down content, particularly on YouTube, that didn't
(09:28):
violate their terms and conditions, but they did so under
pressure from senior Biden administration officials, including some at the
White House itself. First of all, Google vowed on Tuesday
to offer YouTube accounts that were permanently banned for political speech,
giving them the ability to be reinstated, and the big
tech giant admitted that it once faced pressure from the
Biden administration to remove content about COVID nineteen. They also,
(09:53):
in addition to saying that senior Biden administration officials, including
folks at the White House, conducted, repeated and sustained to
outreach to Alphabet and press the company regarding certain user
generated content related to the pandemic that did not violate
its policies, also says the administration created a political atmosphere
that sought to influence the actions of platforms based on
(10:15):
their concerns regarding misinformation and so Jim says the folks
at Alphabet grappled with these decisions, but ultimately seemed to
give in in most cases, even again when the terms
of use weren't violated. So this feels like a story
of yeah, we knew that. The admission is good, but
it's especially rich timing considering how all the Left, in
(10:38):
the wake of the whole Jimmy Kimmel fiasco is on
their high horse about free speech and free expression when
for four years it was very, very different, in a
very different direction.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, Greg, I'm going to get into some points about
online posting in a second, but I think you had
it right the first time. The alphabet should apologize. The
letter O and zero are too similar, and a lot
of times I've had to type in my password and
I can't tell whether it's supposed to be a zero
or a letter. Oh you know the number one lower
(11:10):
case L capital I way too similar. What do you
spread out? It's like kids on a soccer fiel. They're
all smoohed together. You can't tell one from the other.
And finally, the number six in the letter G. Again,
all it is is how much does that little line
get extended and doesn't connect? So, Alphabet, get your act together.
I would go after the silent letters, but when your
(11:30):
last name is Garrity and has a silent GH, I
guess I'd be throwing stones from a glasshouse. So hey,
we did get some jokes in today's episode, so yes,
this is not exactly shocking. All kinds of tech companies
talked about this during the pandemic, and I'm sure everybody
in the Biden administration was convinced they were doing the
right thing, and we don't want that misinformation getting out there. Therefore,
(11:52):
we're going to call up Google and say, or you know,
Alphabet or any of these sits, you got to take
those youtubes down. You just can't have people saying that
kind of stuff right now. Their lives are at stake,
and if you allow that YouTube host to stay on there,
people will die. To quote the illustrious Remy doing his
videos for the Reason Foundation over there, so frustrating. I
(12:13):
would like to see more from this letter about, like,
dear Alphabet, what did you learn from this? It's great
that they're doing this. I'm sure everybody who's gonna get
their YouTube channel back is gonna love it. But what
happens when there's a democratic president again. What happens when
there's a democratic administration again and they feel that some
piece of information is so bad and is so consequential
(12:34):
that the government is gonna say, look, we're not going
to pass a law saying you can't say these sorts
of things because that would violate the First Amendment. We're
just gonna have this work around. We're gonna call you
up and say, hey, alphabet, we'd really like you to
take these things down. And you know, we're not telling
you wink wink, We're not you know, I'm just saying
it's a nice company you got there, and you know
you'd be really terrible if something happened to it, so
(12:55):
you really should take this stuff down. I also kind
of feel like it's a little bit of alphabet like,
why didn't you stand up then? Why didn't you go
public with the bid administration pressuring you to do this?
Why didn't you you know, why was this all done
behind the scenes and in secret? It's all it's great
to see this now, but it feels, you know, again
it's twenty twenty five and they're, oh, hi, hey, in
(13:16):
twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, we were really bad. Sorry
about that, you know, thanks for that quick response to this, guys.
And again, is there any guarantee we had that this
is not going to happen again the next time? And again,
you know, Brandon Carr should not be running around on
you know, podcasts and saying we can do this the
easy way or the hard way. He should not know,
he says, you know, it may be up to us
at the FCC to adjudicate Jimmy Kimmel's monogue. No, No,
(13:38):
that is not your job. That is not what we
have the FCC for. You're supposed to regulate the bandwidth,
who's broadcasting at what frequency, that's you know, where it's
supposed to extend there. And I think that the outcome
we saw with Kimmel, where he basically got stuck in
the time out chair for a couple of days, that's
probably what would have happened anyway, if if Carr had
never opened his mouth. And I kind of wish he
had not done this. But if you're going to get
(14:01):
really mad about car, can we get mad about the
Biden administration officials calling up social media companies and saying, like,
because there's nothing the lot says, they've got content regulation
powers over the media, So, you know, like deeply frustrating.
It's good news if you're getting your YouTube channel back, congratulations,
but can't feel enormously reassured about how long these relatively
(14:22):
more pro free speech policies will ragin in place and
whether these companies will knuckle under the next time an
administration says, yeah, we don't like that, you should take
down that YouTube channel exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, we know about DHS and the FBI pressuring Twitter
back under the previous regime before Elon Musk, and then
you've got you know, zucker Berg has basically said the
same thing. You've got Google doing this now, Jim, Google
and Facebook are about as big as you can possibly get.
So if you can't stand up for the right thing here,
(14:52):
who else is going to do it? It's pretty shameful episode.
I'm glad they're finally admitting what happened here, but it's
way too late, and the fact that they may be
he didn't check in with each other. Hey, is this
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to band together and push back, But something tells me
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(17:07):
Also bad to a certain extent, but also crazy to
a certain extent. Today is September twenty fourth, which means
we have six days left in the fiscal year, and
at the end of the fiscal year, if there's not funding,
there is going to be a government shutdown. Now, the
House of Representatives passed a spending bill last week, and
(17:28):
it was basically a continuing resolution with some additional money
for security issues. Democrats are very upset that some Obamacare
subsidies are going to be reduced or eliminated. What they
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so there was a Democratic plan for those to end
(17:50):
at the end of this fiscal year. But now Democrats,
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passed the House, they immediately sent it to the Senate.
It didn't get the sixty votes. Then the Democrats had
an alternative bill that didn't get anywhere close to sixty
votes either. So now we're at this impass. Trump isn't
going to meet with Democratic leaders. Even the differing party
(18:11):
leaders in the Senate aren't talking much. Obviously, the Republicans
hold the vast majority of the leverage except the Democrats'
ability to stop them from getting to sixty votes. So Jim,
we've seen this in so many ways before. Of course,
earlier this year, Chuck Schumer decided not to shut down
the government supported Klochure, had a few Democrats join him,
and he's been a pariah in the party ever since.
(18:32):
So now he's absolutely determined not to go along with
the Republican bill. So what happens next.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Probably nothing good. And the entire the talk of a
government shutdown began over the last couple of weeks. There's
this very really important question, what do Democrats want, all right?
If they're going to filibuster a spending bill and not
allow the government to stay open. What do they want
in exchange? What's their ransom demand? And if you ask
(19:00):
all forty seven Democrats in the Senate, you may well
get forty seven different answers. If you ask the grassroots,
you'll basically they the problem is not that they like
this policy here, ice enforcement or that policy there, or
the problem they really have is that Donald Trump's president.
You know, if you ask people what is Trump doing?
Ran their probably going to answer everything. Right, Well, you're
(19:21):
not going to be able to say, in order to
keep the government open, we must we demand that Donald
Trump stop everything. Right, you might be able to get
a little bit more funding here for some priority. You
might be able to get you know, there's there's you
could might be able to tweak around the edges, but
of course that's not really tweaking around the edges. That's
you know, what Democrats want is wholesale, sweeping changes, and
(19:41):
you can't do that with forty seven votes in the Senate. Yes,
I get that Chuck Schumer is being treated like he's
got abola, and I get that, you know, Democratic Senate
challengers don't want him to come out and support them
and they're emphasizing that they're not the candidates who are
supported by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and things like that.
But in the like, so I had just said, Schubers,
feel I got to do something. I got your idea.
(20:02):
He may well be calculating it's better to have this
fight and lose than to look like he's not willing
to have this fight. But that said, you still are
going to go into a government shutdown fight when you
people who get hit the hardest by a government shutdown
or federal workers. My guess is that we haven't passed
any appropriations bills, right, Greg.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I think a few got done in the House. There's
no regular order for several in the House, and nothing
I think in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, they also gotta be like signing to law, right,
so it's got to be a thing where it's it's
already sat and done. So when that Russell Voight will
decide who's essential and who's not and what parts of
the like you know over at Office of Management and Budget,
so conceivably like he'll decide, you know, because it used
to be in a Democratic administration they would put the
little barriers around the Washington Monument. But actually World Won
(20:48):
the World War Two monument, like, we don't even go
into it, you just walk. Well, you know, it's shut down, everybody,
And that was you know, all of these things were
done in order to generate the negative press. You know,
missus Zachmonic's sixth grade class really wanted to visit the Smithsonian,
but they can't because of the government shutdown in America.
You know whose fault it is the Republicans. Look at
these crying school kids, aren't they just the way of
(21:09):
that kind of coverage? And I don't know if they're
going to get that, in part because Republicans will have
the votes that will have said, look, here's our funding
bill keeping the government open. We'd like to pass it.
The Democrats in the Senate won't let us because they're
filibustering it. So that's hehr Old number one. And Schumervike
is saying, Okay, the media will cover for us on
this conceivably. That seems like a safe enough bet. But
(21:31):
you know, government workers either stay home and don't get
paid now they get back paid once the government shutdown ends,
or they have to go into work and not get paid.
And they're not particularly big fans of that. Yes, the
baby's a little flattering. Can be told you're essential to
the operations of the government. But you know, so, here's
the thing. Whenever people ask me, oh, they're going to
be a government shut down, if you have a government
shutdown that lasts twenty four hour, usually like the funding
(21:52):
ruts runs out on a Friday, so you've got like
forty eight hours of negotiating before anybody even notices. Most
people don't notice if the federal government it's closed on
a weekend because most federal office buildings are closed on
a weekends, the courthouses, all that kind of stuff. So
seventy two hours is when it starts to become a
real problem. The longer it goes, the more Americans notice
the effects. Greg. How intent is Donald Trump on making
(22:17):
life easier for federal workers.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It's not a high priority right now.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
If you're a federal worker, who do you expect to
protect you? Democrats? Right You're they are the party of governments.
So my suspicion is that these Senate Democrats are going
to feel a lot more pressure. Like again, first couple
of days, nobody's going to feel all that bad. A week,
two weeks, three weeks. At that point, federal workers is
gonna be like, hey, wait, I was supposed to get paid, right,
I got bills to pay. You know, I wasn't counting
(22:45):
on this. You know, why are you guys holding out
for this? So I think a lot more pressure is
going to be on the Democratic side once a government
shutdown starts. So I think the stage is set for
Democrats to lose. So you know, if you're Trump, You're like,
let's go, baby, you know, let's have this fight. I
feel pretty good about my odds. And remember the longest
government shutdown in history happened in late twenty eighteen early
(23:07):
twenty nineteen, as you know, the transition to a new
Congress was happening. So like Trump will play don't play
chicken with Trump, right, I know there's the whole Like
probably Chuck Schumer is like, I'm gonna do the taco trade.
Trump always chickens out. I'm gonna do just fine, I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
So.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think there's a good chance Trump holds out on this.
And I also think that the fundamentals of the Democrats
being the ones holding up the funding bill, the media
can only cover for that so long. I think eventually
people like. The Other thing is when government shuts down,
everybody's like, oh, I'm gonna win this fight. Very often,
the dominant vibe amongst public polling is a posun both
their houses. Very rarely does somebody come out of a
(23:44):
government shutdown fight looking good. So I think it's just
gonna be a mess. I think it's gonna hurt everybody.
But I think the Democrats have more to lose, And
you know, I prefer not to have a government shut down.
If they're gonna have one, fine, let's do one forty
eight seventy two hours. But let's not hold out for
something where we all to know sooner or later Democrats
are gonna have to go. But you know, say, okay,
we'll pass the funding bill, People get back to work,
(24:05):
and life goes on for everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah. To borrow a Trump line from earlier this year,
from a more unpleasant moment, you don't have any cards,
Chuck Schumer. I mean the White House, the House, the Senate.
You do have the ability to block them to get
to sixty. But Republicans have had a bill that's passed
the House. It's sitting there and oh, by the way,
it's still kicking the can down the road from Biden
era levels which were extended earlier this year, and the
(24:29):
one that we're Schumer back down and they're still doing
it again. We haven't even gotten to the spending levels
that Trump actually wants here, with the exception of a
few recisions via Doge, So the idea that the Republicans
are being completely unreasonable here doesn't hold water. And the
last thing I'll say, Jim, I don't know if this
was off the top of your head or it's an
homage to Alf, but excellent reference to missus Acmonic, yes
(24:49):
and abron Alf. And at the time we didn't even
know she was Jerry Seinfeld's mom, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
The other one I do is miss Offmar who was
the teacher in the Peanuts Cartoony. So it's always, I always,
you always want some some vaguely ethnic, you know, old
fashioned name for you're picturing the sweet you know, old
school marm and all these disappointed kids standing outside the
locked doors of the Smithsonian pressing their noses against the
glass to see the Wright brothers or something.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yep, but yeah, shut down theater. Let's hope we don't
get to that point, but sounds like the Democrats almost
want it at this point. So Jim, quite a day
yet again. See you tomorrow, See you tomorrow, Greg, Jim Garretty,
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Really glad you're with us for the Wednesday edition of
The Three Martini Lunch. I think we had a fairly
lighthearted episode planned for you, But now we know more
details from that shooting near the ice facility in Dallas, Texas.
We'll get into all the details on that in just
a moment. But Jim, it's been exactly two weeks since
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. We talked earlier this week
(00:34):
about those two other incidents in Sacramento and New Hampshire
and now this, and it appears that anyone who thought
that any of these might be isolated incidents or not
a significant problem, it's a significant problem.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Greg, I was really hoping we could get through a
week without discussing some terrible act of violence, you know,
reset the counter. It has been zero week since we've
had not had to talk about one of them, but alas,
that is what's front and center in the news today.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We'll also talk about the showdown over spending in Congress,
just about a week before the end of the fiscal year.
And we'll also be talking about Google's admission that they
pretty much did the Biden administration's bidding and censoring content
that the Biden administration did not appreciate. So a lot
to get to today, as always, but to first, and
given the headline that we just talked about, it's certainly
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possible that you're going to need some help dealing with
news stories constantly talking about. All Right, Jim, as mentioned,
I think you and I both woke up to the
news shortly after waking up hearing about this news this morning.
There had been a shooting at the ice facility in Dallas,
and that it was in the area of the facility
(01:47):
where transfers are made bringing detainees in, transferring them out,
whatever the situation may be. And it appears that there
was a shooter and attempted sniper from an elevated position.
From what we're hearing at this point, it appears only
detainees were hit, and it appears at least one of
them is dead. The shooter is believed to have died
from a self inflicted gunshot wound. There was a press
(02:10):
conference just a little while ago just before we started recording.
Here is FBI Special Agent in Charge Joe Rothrock from
the Dallas FBI.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I can confirm at this time that the FBI is
investigating this incident as an act of targeted violence. It is, unfortunately,
just the most recent example we've seen of targeted violence
to include here in North Texas. We're back on July fourth,
we saw a coordinate attack carried out against an immigration
detention center in Albareto, Texas. What I can also share
(02:40):
with you is a early evidence that we've seen from
rounds that were found near the suspected shooter contain messages
that are anti ice in nature. Again, this is just
the most recent example of this type of attack. This
will be a whole of government spots. There will be
(03:01):
no resource not utilized to bring all those individuals who
are responsible, to bring them to justice and to hold
them accountable. While we're not releasing identities of any victims
at this time, what I can't confirm you for you
is no members of law enforcement were hurt during this attack.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So that's the latest from Dallas. There'll be other updates
throughout the day, and I think that gives us enough
to go on to analyze here a little bit, Jim,
because once we started to hear that the shooter was
down and the only people hit were migrants, it's one
of two things. Either it's somebody who wanted to target
the migrants or somebody targeting Ice in was a bad shot,
and so it turns out to be the latter, especially
(03:43):
with the information about the casings. We don't know exactly
what was written on them, but it's very similar to
other instances, including the shooter in Utah two weeks ago.
So what do you make of the latest.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, listeners probably ought to know that you and I
debated whether this should be one of our featured martinis
for the day. You know, there was not a lot
of clear evidence or information coming out until right before
we started taping, and then the declaration from the FBI
that the shellcasing messages etched in there were anti ice,
which certainly seems to point in a clear direction. Sometimes
(04:15):
in the news commentary business is a they call it
a twenty four hour rule that you know, whenever there's
a mass shooting, whenever there's some act of violence, a
lot of misinformation floats around. You Often hear during a
shooting reports of a second shooter. Sometimes that comes from
echoes and things like that. So I understand the hesitation.
On the other hand, people want to know what happened,
and people want to know who did this, why did
(04:36):
they do this? You know, what was going on here?
And I almost wonder, greg in light of the aftermath
of the Charlie Kirk shooting, in which there was a
man hunt for the perpetrator. In the interim when the
perpetrator was captured, this widespread belief in usually in hard
left progressive circles, people who wanted to believe, oh, it
(04:58):
was a maga guy. Wasn't Jamel Hill or somebody was
saying this was, you know, a white supremacist on white
supremacist violence. It was something like this different set of
facts got in there, and you saw all kinds of
fairly prominent liberals, the Lawrence tribes of the world, coming
on acting as if it had been proven fact that
the shooter had been Maga, angry at Charlie Kirk for
(05:18):
not being right wing enough. I almost wonder it. Look,
law enforcement is, you know, it's got to put out
the information when it's appropriate, But I almost wonder if
putting this out there is a effort to dissuade anyone
from an erroneous conclusion. Here, when you put in anti
ICE onto your shell casings, that does not indicate that
you are there because you really hate illegal immigrants and
(05:38):
you don't want ICE to do their jobs. That indicates
you don't want ICE to do their jobs and you
hate them for doing so. Again, words do not spontaneously
make some nut job decides start run out and start
shooting people. But if you constantly describe ICE agents as fascists,
if you start, you know, jack booted thugs and all
that stuff, is there always a chance that some nut
(05:59):
out there is going to take you seriously and say, oh,
well these are Nazis. Well I might as well go
shoot them. I might as well fight them. This is
time for us to do that again. You know, we
have to respect the First Amendment. But you do start
to wonder if this constant demonization of immigrations and Customs
enforcement officials turns into something where somebody out there is like, well,
if I shoot them, I will be greeted as a hero. Again,
(06:21):
does this mean ICE is above criticism? Heck no, Does
this mean that there's no we can't have impassioned debates
about immigration policy, not at all. But people have been saying, oh,
why are ice agents wearing masks? Well, because there are
a bunch of nut jobs out there who want to
kill them, that's why. And if they know their faces,
then they find out their their names and identities, they
can find the home addresses. You know, I really wish
(06:43):
it were not so, but that you know, the wearing
of the masks starts to feel logical, starts to feel
like an inevitable preventative measure. And Greg, I believe California
just banned law enforcement officials from wearing masks. We're a
long way from COVID, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, we sure are. I'm not sure that that
can app f lie to federal authorities. I know there's
a bit debate about that. Gavin Newsom certainly thinks it can.
But yes, we're going to learn a whole lot more,
and we don't want to jump to any more conclusions
than what we just heard in that press conference. Senator
Ted Cruz did take a couple of questions after the
law enforcement officials left and basically said, what you said,
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Jim onto our second bad martini today. And the Alphabet
is apologizing.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Alphabet is the parent company of Google, and they are
apologizing essentially for doing the Biden administration's bidding when it
comes to censoring content the Biden administration did not like.
And so this all comes in a letter to the
House Oversight Committee from Alphabet, the parent company of Google,
admitting they shut down content, particularly on YouTube, that didn't
(09:28):
violate their terms and conditions, but they did so under
pressure from senior Biden administration officials, including some at the
White House itself. First of all, Google vowed on Tuesday
to offer YouTube accounts that were permanently banned for political speech,
giving them the ability to be reinstated, and the big
tech giant admitted that it once faced pressure from the
Biden administration to remove content about COVID nineteen. They also,
(09:53):
in addition to saying that senior Biden administration officials, including
folks at the White House, conducted, repeated and sustained to
outreach to Alphabet and press the company regarding certain user
generated content related to the pandemic that did not violate
its policies, also says the administration created a political atmosphere
that sought to influence the actions of platforms based on
(10:15):
their concerns regarding misinformation and so Jim says the folks
at Alphabet grappled with these decisions, but ultimately seemed to
give in in most cases, even again when the terms
of use weren't violated. So this feels like a story
of yeah, we knew that. The admission is good, but
it's especially rich timing considering how all the Left, in
(10:38):
the wake of the whole Jimmy Kimmel fiasco is on
their high horse about free speech and free expression when
for four years it was very, very different, in a
very different direction.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, Greg, I'm going to get into some points about
online posting in a second, but I think you had
it right the first time. The alphabet should apologize. The
letter O and zero are too similar, and a lot
of times I've had to type in my password and
I can't tell whether it's supposed to be a zero
or a letter. Oh you know the number one lower
(11:10):
case L capital I way too similar. What do you
spread out? It's like kids on a soccer fiel. They're
all smoohed together. You can't tell one from the other.
And finally, the number six in the letter G. Again,
all it is is how much does that little line
get extended and doesn't connect? So, Alphabet, get your act together.
I would go after the silent letters, but when your
(11:30):
last name is Garrity and has a silent GH, I
guess I'd be throwing stones from a glasshouse. So hey,
we did get some jokes in today's episode, so yes,
this is not exactly shocking. All kinds of tech companies
talked about this during the pandemic, and I'm sure everybody
in the Biden administration was convinced they were doing the
right thing, and we don't want that misinformation getting out there. Therefore,
(11:52):
we're going to call up Google and say, or you know,
Alphabet or any of these sits, you got to take
those youtubes down. You just can't have people saying that
kind of stuff right now. Their lives are at stake,
and if you allow that YouTube host to stay on there,
people will die. To quote the illustrious Remy doing his
videos for the Reason Foundation over there, so frustrating. I
(12:13):
would like to see more from this letter about, like,
dear Alphabet, what did you learn from this? It's great
that they're doing this. I'm sure everybody who's gonna get
their YouTube channel back is gonna love it. But what
happens when there's a democratic president again. What happens when
there's a democratic administration again and they feel that some
piece of information is so bad and is so consequential
(12:34):
that the government is gonna say, look, we're not going
to pass a law saying you can't say these sorts
of things because that would violate the First Amendment. We're
just gonna have this work around. We're gonna call you
up and say, hey, alphabet, we'd really like you to
take these things down. And you know, we're not telling
you wink wink, We're not you know, I'm just saying
it's a nice company you got there, and you know
you'd be really terrible if something happened to it, so
(12:55):
you really should take this stuff down. I also kind
of feel like it's a little bit of alphabet like,
why didn't you stand up then? Why didn't you go
public with the bid administration pressuring you to do this?
Why didn't you you know, why was this all done
behind the scenes and in secret? It's all it's great
to see this now, but it feels, you know, again
it's twenty twenty five and they're, oh, hi, hey, in
(13:16):
twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, we were really bad. Sorry
about that, you know, thanks for that quick response to this, guys.
And again, is there any guarantee we had that this
is not going to happen again the next time? And again,
you know, Brandon Carr should not be running around on
you know, podcasts and saying we can do this the
easy way or the hard way. He should not know,
he says, you know, it may be up to us
at the FCC to adjudicate Jimmy Kimmel's monogue. No, No,
(13:38):
that is not your job. That is not what we
have the FCC for. You're supposed to regulate the bandwidth,
who's broadcasting at what frequency, that's you know, where it's
supposed to extend there. And I think that the outcome
we saw with Kimmel, where he basically got stuck in
the time out chair for a couple of days, that's
probably what would have happened anyway, if if Carr had
never opened his mouth. And I kind of wish he
had not done this. But if you're going to get
(14:01):
really mad about car, can we get mad about the
Biden administration officials calling up social media companies and saying, like,
because there's nothing the lot says, they've got content regulation
powers over the media, So, you know, like deeply frustrating.
It's good news if you're getting your YouTube channel back, congratulations,
but can't feel enormously reassured about how long these relatively
(14:22):
more pro free speech policies will ragin in place and
whether these companies will knuckle under the next time an
administration says, yeah, we don't like that, you should take
down that YouTube channel exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, we know about DHS and the FBI pressuring Twitter
back under the previous regime before Elon Musk, and then
you've got you know, zucker Berg has basically said the
same thing. You've got Google doing this now, Jim, Google
and Facebook are about as big as you can possibly get.
So if you can't stand up for the right thing here,
(14:52):
who else is going to do it? It's pretty shameful episode.
I'm glad they're finally admitting what happened here, but it's
way too late, and the fact that they may be
he didn't check in with each other. Hey, is this
happening to you too? It would have been much easier
to band together and push back, But something tells me
in the political environment at the time, they didn't really
want to as much as they claim right now.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, wouldn't we all love to be a powerful Silicon
Valley media mogul with your own social media platform that
you own so that you can take orders from Joe
Biden or more accurately, you know, what was it Fauci
or whoever what other Biden administration officials were doing, because
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(17:07):
Also bad to a certain extent, but also crazy to
a certain extent. Today is September twenty fourth, which means
we have six days left in the fiscal year, and
at the end of the fiscal year, if there's not funding,
there is going to be a government shutdown. Now, the
House of Representatives passed a spending bill last week, and
(17:28):
it was basically a continuing resolution with some additional money
for security issues. Democrats are very upset that some Obamacare
subsidies are going to be reduced or eliminated. What they
don't tell you, though, is that those were already sunset
to end at that point when Joe Biden was president,
so there was a Democratic plan for those to end
(17:50):
at the end of this fiscal year. But now Democrats,
of course, are blaming Donald Trump. So after that bill
passed the House, they immediately sent it to the Senate.
It didn't get the sixty votes. Then the Democrats had
an alternative bill that didn't get anywhere close to sixty
votes either. So now we're at this impass. Trump isn't
going to meet with Democratic leaders. Even the differing party
(18:11):
leaders in the Senate aren't talking much. Obviously, the Republicans
hold the vast majority of the leverage except the Democrats'
ability to stop them from getting to sixty votes. So Jim,
we've seen this in so many ways before. Of course,
earlier this year, Chuck Schumer decided not to shut down
the government supported Klochure, had a few Democrats join him,
and he's been a pariah in the party ever since.
(18:32):
So now he's absolutely determined not to go along with
the Republican bill. So what happens next.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Probably nothing good. And the entire the talk of a
government shutdown began over the last couple of weeks. There's
this very really important question, what do Democrats want, all right?
If they're going to filibuster a spending bill and not
allow the government to stay open. What do they want
in exchange? What's their ransom demand? And if you ask
(19:00):
all forty seven Democrats in the Senate, you may well
get forty seven different answers. If you ask the grassroots,
you'll basically they the problem is not that they like
this policy here, ice enforcement or that policy there, or
the problem they really have is that Donald Trump's president.
You know, if you ask people what is Trump doing?
Ran their probably going to answer everything. Right, Well, you're
(19:21):
not going to be able to say, in order to
keep the government open, we must we demand that Donald
Trump stop everything. Right, you might be able to get
a little bit more funding here for some priority. You
might be able to get you know, there's there's you
could might be able to tweak around the edges, but
of course that's not really tweaking around the edges. That's
you know, what Democrats want is wholesale, sweeping changes, and
(19:41):
you can't do that with forty seven votes in the Senate. Yes,
I get that Chuck Schumer is being treated like he's
got abola, and I get that, you know, Democratic Senate
challengers don't want him to come out and support them
and they're emphasizing that they're not the candidates who are
supported by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and things like that.
But in the like, so I had just said, Schubers,
feel I got to do something. I got your idea.
(20:02):
He may well be calculating it's better to have this
fight and lose than to look like he's not willing
to have this fight. But that said, you still are
going to go into a government shutdown fight when you
people who get hit the hardest by a government shutdown
or federal workers. My guess is that we haven't passed
any appropriations bills, right, Greg.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I think a few got done in the House. There's
no regular order for several in the House, and nothing
I think in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, they also gotta be like signing to law, right,
so it's got to be a thing where it's it's
already sat and done. So when that Russell Voight will
decide who's essential and who's not and what parts of
the like you know over at Office of Management and Budget,
so conceivably like he'll decide, you know, because it used
to be in a Democratic administration they would put the
little barriers around the Washington Monument. But actually World Won
(20:48):
the World War Two monument, like, we don't even go
into it, you just walk. Well, you know, it's shut down, everybody,
And that was you know, all of these things were
done in order to generate the negative press. You know,
missus Zachmonic's sixth grade class really wanted to visit the Smithsonian,
but they can't because of the government shutdown in America.
You know whose fault it is the Republicans. Look at
these crying school kids, aren't they just the way of
(21:09):
that kind of coverage? And I don't know if they're
going to get that, in part because Republicans will have
the votes that will have said, look, here's our funding
bill keeping the government open. We'd like to pass it.
The Democrats in the Senate won't let us because they're
filibustering it. So that's hehr Old number one. And Schumervike
is saying, Okay, the media will cover for us on
this conceivably. That seems like a safe enough bet. But
(21:31):
you know, government workers either stay home and don't get
paid now they get back paid once the government shutdown ends,
or they have to go into work and not get paid.
And they're not particularly big fans of that. Yes, the
baby's a little flattering. Can be told you're essential to
the operations of the government. But you know, so, here's
the thing. Whenever people ask me, oh, they're going to
be a government shut down, if you have a government
shutdown that lasts twenty four hour, usually like the funding
(21:52):
ruts runs out on a Friday, so you've got like
forty eight hours of negotiating before anybody even notices. Most
people don't notice if the federal government it's closed on
a weekend because most federal office buildings are closed on
a weekends, the courthouses, all that kind of stuff. So
seventy two hours is when it starts to become a
real problem. The longer it goes, the more Americans notice
the effects. Greg. How intent is Donald Trump on making
(22:17):
life easier for federal workers.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It's not a high priority right now.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
If you're a federal worker, who do you expect to
protect you? Democrats? Right You're they are the party of governments.
So my suspicion is that these Senate Democrats are going
to feel a lot more pressure. Like again, first couple
of days, nobody's going to feel all that bad. A week,
two weeks, three weeks. At that point, federal workers is
gonna be like, hey, wait, I was supposed to get paid, right,
I got bills to pay. You know, I wasn't counting
(22:45):
on this. You know, why are you guys holding out
for this? So I think a lot more pressure is
going to be on the Democratic side once a government
shutdown starts. So I think the stage is set for
Democrats to lose. So you know, if you're Trump, You're like,
let's go, baby, you know, let's have this fight. I
feel pretty good about my odds. And remember the longest
government shutdown in history happened in late twenty eighteen early
(23:07):
twenty nineteen, as you know, the transition to a new
Congress was happening. So like Trump will play don't play
chicken with Trump, right, I know there's the whole Like
probably Chuck Schumer is like, I'm gonna do the taco trade.
Trump always chickens out. I'm gonna do just fine, I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
So.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think there's a good chance Trump holds out on this.
And I also think that the fundamentals of the Democrats
being the ones holding up the funding bill, the media
can only cover for that so long. I think eventually
people like. The Other thing is when government shuts down,
everybody's like, oh, I'm gonna win this fight. Very often,
the dominant vibe amongst public polling is a posun both
their houses. Very rarely does somebody come out of a
(23:44):
government shutdown fight looking good. So I think it's just
gonna be a mess. I think it's gonna hurt everybody.
But I think the Democrats have more to lose, And
you know, I prefer not to have a government shut down.
If they're gonna have one, fine, let's do one forty
eight seventy two hours. But let's not hold out for
something where we all to know sooner or later Democrats
are gonna have to go. But you know, say, okay,
we'll pass the funding bill, People get back to work,
(24:05):
and life goes on for everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah. To borrow a Trump line from earlier this year,
from a more unpleasant moment, you don't have any cards,
Chuck Schumer. I mean the White House, the House, the Senate.
You do have the ability to block them to get
to sixty. But Republicans have had a bill that's passed
the House. It's sitting there and oh, by the way,
it's still kicking the can down the road from Biden
era levels which were extended earlier this year, and the
(24:29):
one that we're Schumer back down and they're still doing
it again. We haven't even gotten to the spending levels
that Trump actually wants here, with the exception of a
few recisions via Doge, So the idea that the Republicans
are being completely unreasonable here doesn't hold water. And the
last thing I'll say, Jim, I don't know if this
was off the top of your head or it's an
homage to Alf, but excellent reference to missus Acmonic, yes
(24:49):
and abron Alf. And at the time we didn't even
know she was Jerry Seinfeld's mom, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
The other one I do is miss Offmar who was
the teacher in the Peanuts Cartoony. So it's always, I always,
you always want some some vaguely ethnic, you know, old
fashioned name for you're picturing the sweet you know, old
school marm and all these disappointed kids standing outside the
locked doors of the Smithsonian pressing their noses against the
glass to see the Wright brothers or something.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yep, but yeah, shut down theater. Let's hope we don't
get to that point, but sounds like the Democrats almost
want it at this point. So Jim, quite a day
yet again. See you tomorrow, See you tomorrow, Greg, Jim Garretty,
National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of Radio America. Thanks so
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