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August 14, 2025 27 mins
Join Jim and Greg as they dive into three crazy stories, namely Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer scoffing at the notion that there is a crime problem in Washington, Democratic presidential hopefuls realizing their hard left base expects them to be anti-Israel, and a Florida GOP congresswoman asserting that UFO's suggest we've been visited by "interdimensional" beings.

First, they marvel that Democrats are not suggesting a different wat to fight crime in the nation's capital, but are actually insisting that crime is not a problem there. Sen. Schumer says he always feels safe walking the streets of Washington, but Jim explains that the rest of us don't have a security detail to protect us.

Next, they're disturbed but not surprised to learn that prospective Democratic presidential candidates are tacking more anti-Israel because the progressive wing of the party loudly demands it. Jim and Greg look back at another sudden shift Democrats had in response to their base a generation ago, and point out that a majority of Democrats in the U.S. Senate already want to stop arming Israel.

Finally, they react to Florida Rep. Anna Paulina Luna for telling Joe Rogan that she has heard convincing testimony from people who claimed to see technology beyond what humans can produce. Furthermore, Rep. Luna suggests this technology was created by "interdimensional" beings. Jim finds the argument thoroughly underwhelming and questions whether the voters in Luna's district could do better.


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Speaker 3 (00:10):
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Speaker 4 (00:13):
So glad you're with us for the Thursday edition of
the Three Tiny Lunch. Jim, Today, we're going to be
talking about aliens, not the ones being rounded up by Ice,
but the actual aliens, because a member of Congress is
talking about that with Joe Rogan, and that issue seem
to be getting a lot of traction. Not that long ago,
there were Congressional hearings and then it just kind of
got cut off. Not really sure exactly what's going on there,

(00:35):
but we'll have a couple of clips from that. We'll
be talking about how the Democratic Party is moving very
clearly in a very bad direction on the policy of Israel.
And we're going to be talking about Chuck Schumer and
his very insightful thoughts on crime, what crime in Washington,
d c. But from people who ignore crime to people

(00:57):
obsessed with aliens, to the Democrats pretty much realizing that
their political future requires them to abandon Israel. Not a
lot of optimism on what we're talking about today is the.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Pre podcast we had not discussed whether this was a good, bad,
or crazy way. This is all very heavy and the crazy.
Maybe some are a little bit good, maybe some are
more on the bad side. But like the other weirdness
is that none of this, none of these stories have
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(03:10):
Martini Now and it's the Democrats reaction to the crime
problem in DC. Of course, because Trump is taking the
step to put the DC police under federal control, that
has to be the wrong policy because he came up
with it, right, or his administration came up with this,
and so he has to be wrong. But instead of saying,
you know, no, no, we have a better approach to this,

(03:31):
they're basically landing on there's not a crime problem here.
We're at a thirty year low of violent crime, even
though there's reports out there of police officials downplaying crimes
lesser charges. We've talked many times about the FBI system
being so convoluted that major cities don't even report a
lot of their violent crime. But Chuck Schumer got asked

(03:52):
this question by the TikTok podcaster Aaron Parnas, and you'll
be shocked to note, Jim, that Chuck Schumer feels perfectly
safe in the nation's capital.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
A lot of folks on the Republican side, your Republican
colleagues say that they are very scared to walk outside
in DC, that they think this is completely.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
The right thing to do. Senator, are you scared walking
around Washington, DC these days?

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I walk around all the time.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
I wake up early in the morning sometimes and take
a nice walk is the sun is rising around some
of the capital and the other monuments and things, and.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I feel perfectly safe. They're full of it. Look, here's
what they've done, Aaron, plain and simple. Donald Trump wants
to distract.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Look, if you go for a jogger on the mall
at six seven in the morning, it's probably one of
the safer times and safer areas of the day. There's
a lot of people out there at that time, the
sun is out and so forth. But Chuck Schumer, of
all people saying I don't have to worry about DC, Jimy,
you explain in the Morning Jolt today very well why
Chuck Schumer is one of the few people in DC
who probably doesn't need to be concerned.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Well, for starters, as Senate Minority Leader, Chuck Schumer has
a security detail, and for obvious reasons, they don't discuss
the details of that security detail very much. But back
in twenty seventeen, Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, who was
then the President pro Tem of the Senate, said in
a speech that twenty three armed guards protect him and
his wife around the clock, in and around the Capitol

(05:14):
and beyond unquote, so it seems reasonable to conclude that
the Senate Minority leader would have a comparable level. So
let's say twenty some guys who are armed, well trained,
probably very good at their jobs of protecting an elected official.
So if you had that security, you'd feel safe everywhere
you go to. This is one of the safest men

(05:34):
in America, so you know, of course he feels safe
walking around. Now, not every member of Congress gets that.
You only get that when you're in leadership or if
there's a particular threat to you. And I went through
today's Morning Joult and list at least two members of
the House of Representatives who have either assaulted in an
apartment elevator. Henry Kuiar was unhurt, but that you know,
mass carjackers held him at gunpoint and right off with

(05:56):
his car. You know staffer was carjacked at gunpoint. You
know another staffer around Estes, Republican Kansas was fatally shot
in a drive by not the target. You know, members
of Congress are not immune and their staffers are not
immune to crime. I urge people to read today's Morning
Jolt because I really enjoyed getting into Okay, look, why

(06:17):
are things bad in the District of Columbia Because you
can hear out, oh, you know it's a budget or
they don't have statehood, and you know, a concept like
there are three big problems. And I'm I'm not going
to put in a dundune, but to just point out that,
you know, in the criminal justice let me let me
get the right register for this. In the criminal justice system,
people are represented by two separate but completely important groups.

(06:38):
Police who arrest the criminals and the prosecutors who convict
you get them convicted. There are flaws on both sides.
The first is number of cops in the District of
Columbia employed by the Metropolitan Police Department has declined from
about thirty eight hundred and twenty twenty to thirty one
hundred officers today. That's seven hundred fewer officers on the street.
You can't take away seven hundred police from a city

(06:58):
and not expect that to affect the.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Overall crime statistics.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
And just I was like, wow, there's got to be
some sizeable city that seven hundred cops.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Is there one? And I found it.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
It turns out the entire city of Oakland, California, formerly
the home of the A's, has budgeted for six hundred
and seventy eight police offer in the entire city. Now
you're like, oh my god, that doesn't seem like nearly
enough for Oakland, particularly the reputation of Oakland. By remind you,
the Raiders left town, so there's somewhat fewer criminals. There's
some Raiders fans out there who will be irked, but

(07:29):
it's not like I'm going to visit the black.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Hole anytime soon or anything.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
So they you know, the police budget has been basically
flat over the last decade or so, but they have
fewer cops on the beat.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
The district meet bill was like, it's.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Spending you know, eighty seven million to purchase the arena
for the Capitals and the Wizards and then lease it
back to Ted Leonosis. Is that the best use of
cities funding compared to hiring seven hundred more cops. That
does not seem like to live Then the other major
questions are, you know that second part of the Law
and Order intro of the prosecutors. I don't know if
Jean Peiro is going to do a great job. I

(08:02):
hope she does well. I would prefer the president would
look beyond the Fox News green room for every cabinet
position it seems. But that okay, fine, good luck to you,
Jeane Pireau. The city needs you to do a good
job the predecessors who are appointed by Biden. At one point,
we're not bringing charges in two thirds of the arrests
by DC police. If you're a cop and the local
prosecutor chooses not to press charges, you must be livid

(08:24):
about that, and you should not be surprised at crime
rates do not get better. The city also has a
position called Attorney General. This handles civil cases and misdemeanors
and juvenile crimes if the US Attorney does not claim it.
Washingt DC is the only city where the US Attorney
is handling the major crimes prosecution. So you can just
decide which prosecutor is more responsible. The district attorney. Sorry,

(08:47):
the attorney general position for DC spent last two years
investigating Federalist Society CoA chair Leonard Leo.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
No charges have been filed.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Now call me crazy, Greg, but if you spend a
little more time on juvenile criminal offenders. By the way,
DC has plenty of violent juvenile offenders. Yes, and then
if you spend a little less time investigating Leonard Leino, call.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Me crazy, I think the city would be in a
better shape.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
So there's more there, but just basically, why is the
city in such rough shape because they have not spent
money on cops because they don't have They have fewer
cops in the streets than they used to, and neither
prosecutor was doing a good job of prosecuting people. Now again,
good luck to Jenine Piro. Hopefully you see something different.
I think you can argue that putting a couple hundred

(09:30):
FBI agents and DEE agents on the streets, at best,
this is a band aid solution. Also, if they're on
the streets, they're not doing whatever jobs they were doing before.
You know, there are legitimate criticisms to be made of
the recent moves of the Trump administration, but it's very
revealing that the Chuck Schumer decided to go with Well,
I feel perfectly safe going around Washington, and everyone else
should too.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
That's exactly right. I also love how the left, whether
you commit monstrous atrocities or are thoroughly incompetent, it means
that we should reward you you know, Hamas is responsible
for killing well over a thousand Israelis. They're starving their
own people for the most part, using their people as
human shields. What's the solution, lefties, Oh, we must have
a Palestinian state. This clearly calls for a Palestinian state.

(10:11):
DC can't get its act together with keeping crime under control. Well,
obviously this means we need DC statehood. No, no, we
don't do that. You don't need to deserve statehood anyway,
even if you did have a competent approach to crime.
But especially, we're not going to reward you for being
horrible at this job.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
From Tom greg if failures get rewarded, I'm starting to
understand how these people ended up in leadership of the
Democratic Party.

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(12:10):
Certainly crazy, also bad. The Democratic Party is clearly lurching
to the left in a number of ways. At first
it was leery of the avowed socialists over on Mamdani.
Then they've all started embracing him, or at least the
vast majority of Democrats, big tenth, they all say. And
then there's specific issues. I know you remember as well
as I do that Bill Clinton had to pretend he

(12:31):
didn't inhale marijuana in nineteen ninety two because being a
pothead back then was a really bad thing for your
political future. By two thousand and four, on the Democratic
primary debate stage, everybody except Joe Lieberman admitted that they
had smoked Pod, and Lieberman apologized for not having smoked
Pod because he knew that was a politically losing position. Now, unfortunately,

(12:52):
that issue is Israel, and it's becoming more and more
obvious that the party is going to require, certainly the
ever growing perggressive wing of the party going to require
an anti Israel stance from the nominee. The candidate they
focus on here is Pete buddhaj Edge, who shockingly a
while ago was on a podcast and said, in basically

(13:14):
word salad that he is we want the hostages back,
we want the killing to stop, and he got a
lot of blowback from the left on that, including from
the pods Save America guys, And of course Buddha Judge's
response was, I get it. It's important to be clear
about something this enormous and this painful, and it's just
that it's so enormous and it's so painful that sometimes
words can fail again apparently because he still said nothing,

(13:36):
but Politico says the response to Buddha Jedge, normally one
of the Democratic Party's most skilled communicators, was telling Democrats
have recalibrated on Israel, and that's already reverberating across the
shadow campaign trail, as the US relationship with Israel is
fast becoming a key litmus test ahead of the twenty
twenty eight Democratic primary. The Democratic National Committee is weighing

(13:57):
two different resolutions on the matter, Progressives pushing for elected
Democrats to endorse an arms embargo on Israel and recognize
a Palestinian state. And it goes on to say Buddha
Jedge now says he would have signed on to Senator
Bernie sanders proposed arms embargo against Israel, which failed in
the Senate but did get a majority of Democratic Senators. So, Jim,

(14:18):
it feels like the momentum on the left is very
fast building on this issue, and it's bad for our
politics and it's bad for national security.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Before I go any further, Greg, I would like to
remind every listeners circle this date August fourteenth, twenty twenty
five on your calendars. Greg Corumbus has debuted his peak
Buddha Jetge repression, and it was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
I think probably do totally prompt. There's a little singsonginess
and kind of this.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
You know, at McKinsey, we believe that opportunity in crisis
are two sides at the same you know. Anyway, Well,
my suspicion is between now and twenty twenty eight, we'll
have a lot of time to practice this and a
lot of reasons to do this. Also your point about
twenty twenty by two thousand and four Democrats, that's we're
all talking about it. I believe on the debate stage
every Democrat says they yes, they smoked, but they did

(15:04):
not exhale.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
So you mentioned Bodha Jedge.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think maybe the guy this is most interesting in
the context of his JB. Pritzker, the governor of Illinois,
who I think, by most standards is a rather ridiculous
or deeply flawed potential candidate for the Democrats, except that
he's a billionaire, and as I wrote in a profile
of him for National Review earlier this year, he has
outspent all of his opponents by at least nine to one.

(15:32):
That's both Democratic primaries and general elections. So on the
one hand, as a part of this is like, what's
it going to be like when he doesn't have that
kind of financial advantage because you figure some other Democratic
candidates out there would be good fundraisers. You figure Gavin
Newsom has a good fundraising network out there in California,
But when you've got a billion to throw around. I
also like and Mike Bloomberg did this back in twenty twenty.

(15:55):
My kids still say Mike can get done because there
were so many ads popping up in their video games
and YouTube and all that kind of stuff. But in
the end, Mike Bloomberg was not with the Democratic Party
was interested in then. I don't know if Jamie Pritzker
is going to reach this point, but I just observed,
you know, Jamie Pritzker's Jewish, and I wonder if people
were saying, oh, you know, Kamala Harris, can't pick Josh Shapiro.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
He's a pro is real.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Jewish governor, never buy that he's from a really important
swing state.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Can't pick him.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
She went with Tim Walls. And look how great that
turned out that this all of a sudden, there's just
now a version two Jewish candidates. I guess Joe Lieberman
is the only one that Jews ever get. That's it,
that's all right, We're all done with our Jewish potential
presidential candidate. But Joe Lieberman best known for being a
guest on this podcast. That's a single most significant act
in his life. You know, I think if you're a

(16:42):
Jewish Democratic, you know, presidential candidate, and this is the mood,
the ambiance, the error that the kind of the atmosphere
of a Democratic presidential primary, you're probably going to have
to be.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Even more ardently anti Jewish.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
You're going to have to be just vehemently like you
have to balance it out out of suspicions, aah, he's Jewish.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well he might be supportive of Israel somehow.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
And I think that was a big figure, big factor
in Joshapiro's skepticism in the short lived Kamala Harris beepsteaks.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
So again it'll be interesting.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
I The other thing I think we have not really
grappled the country as a whole, has not grappled with
is that one of the consequences of the October seventh
attacks was being pro Israel is now a scandal in
the Democratic Party. It is now a liability. Is now
something you need to justify or excuse, or attempt to

(17:33):
hide or or rectify in some way. I remember seeing
the nut jobs in the streets celebrating on October eighth
and October ninth. I was, what the heck happened? This
is in New York City, you know, the side of
the nine to eleven attacks. All of a sudden, there
folks out there who are celebrating a moss. And now
you see it is not quite accurate to say the

(17:53):
Democratic Party is overtly pro Hamas.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
But if you came out in your Democratic.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Presidential primary and you say, yeah, I'm a big fan
of beam net Yahoo, that would probably have a greater
consequence to the primaries than saying I'm a big fan
of a moss. Like that is the dynamic that's going
on over there right now. It is absolutely baffling. And
by that standard you could argue, yes, the moss has
been a whole bunch of people in Hamas are not
around to celebrate nany victories, but that's a form of

(18:19):
victory for them.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Utterly unbelievable what has happened in the wake of ten
to seven with the Democratic Party. They're obviously already trending
in that direction. You don't just automatically have that instinct
after a terrorist attack. That should have you thinking in
the other direction, whether anybody can stand against the tide.
Maybe if they have that faction of the party all
to themselves, it'll actually help them. But it seems like

(18:41):
everybody feels like they have to lurch further and further
to the anti Israel side, and that's not good for
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(19:58):
and they're all crazy today. But on a Maria Luna,
Republican Congressman from Florida, she was on one of those
committees that heard testimony about UFOs, which the government of
course had to rename. Now theyre UAP's unknown aerial phenomena
or something like that, or unidentified aerial phenomena. Anyway, on
a Maria Luna goes on Joe Rogan yesterday and this

(20:21):
is one of the many topics they talk about, and
she says, what we've seen all this evidence. I can't
talk about it too much because a lot of it's classified,
but basically, there's technology that we couldn't possibly have created
that has been witnessed by a large number of people.
But then they got into what other existence may be
behind that. And here's a couple of exchanges between Rogan

(20:41):
and Luna.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
So when you say that it operates outside our understanding
of physics, what specifically are you saying? What happened to.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
I guess break it down in simple terms, is that
I think that some of the tech that exists, that
whatever these things have, these energy things have. Yeah, well
they call them interdimensional beings. I think that they can
actually operate through the time spaces that we currently have.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
And then you followed up on the idea of interdimensional life.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I guess when you say interdimensional beings that they know
that these are interdimensional beings? How do they know that that?

Speaker 5 (21:24):
So, based on testimony would be based on witnesses that
have come forward. But what I can tell.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
You is just we're told that they know that they've that.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
They've seen things. And what I can tell you without
getting into classified conversations, is that there have been incidences
that I believe where very credible people have reported that
there have been movement outside of tenness space.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's very vague, that is very vague effective.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
So there was a big hullabaloo about this a couple
of years ago. Lots of attentions kind of faded back.
So I guess the congresswoman wants to revive the topic.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
So I want to begin by saying, Greg, at some
point in the late nineties, you said to me, Jim,
someday there will be a Republican congresswoman on the cover
of Maxim magazine. I would have said, really, Susan Mulinari,
who was extremely attractive by the standards of members of Congress.

(22:27):
But no, Luna did it back in November December of
last year.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
With that issue.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Not that I have it, not that I yell, but
I remember seeing it. Google it to double check and yes,
that was the case. Look, you know there is this
saying extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And if you're going
to say that not just the US government, but also
she elaborates defense contractors have access to this super advanced

(22:51):
technology that as you clarify, because you said at the
beginning of this podcast, Greg that it was aliens, you know,
joking about illegal aliens. I'm not sure or an extra
dimensional being qualifies an alien because it's not extraterrestrial, meaning
not of this plant. It's from a different dimension. Now
I have all you know, I am skeptical of the

(23:12):
multiverse theory in part of what it's done to the
Marvel cinematic universe. But then again, the Spider Man animated
movies by Sony have been pretty good about that. So
maybe there are worlds in which things are you know,
history has gone different, and it always turns out to
be when you see it in fiction, it's always this
the Nazis won World War two or something. If you

(23:32):
if you see a fictional depiction of an alternate universe,
there's like a ninety eight percent chance they will have
Zeppelins for some reason. That's the change that always shows
up in the sci fi show. The thing that I
have always kind of wondered because we always like, well,
first of all, if alternate dimensions exist but we can't
see them, we can't reach them, we can't you know,
look into them or like, then what's the point? Doesn't

(23:54):
matter if they exist, if it doesn't affect our.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Lives or anything.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
However, if there are alternate dimensions and maybe transferring from
one to another is easy, then gregor ayre familiar with what.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
They call the Mendela effect.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Explain, Okay, so this is the thing where a lot
of people believe are absolutely convinced they remember reading reports
that Nelson Mandela died in prison in South Africa in
the eighties. Now there's no evidence of this, but people
are absolutely convinced they remember it. And so or there's
different things like the spelling of the Berenstain Bears. There
are people who are absolutely convinced that Shaquille O'Neil made

(24:26):
a movie called like Shazai. It was some sort of
gen movie. Oh that Sinbad the uh actually was what
the guy who did it? So people had these things
that they remember things being different than they actually happened.
But what if they have actually moved from one dimension
to another Alternately? Every time I lose my keys, is
it because I have transfer from a universe where I

(24:48):
did leave my keys on my desk, and now I'm
in a different universe where it did not, and I
left it on the table or in my pants pocket
from the day before or something like that. That is
how I would explain how I lose things so often. Anyway,
this is my theory on the bolt. Now, we said
that if you're going to be a member of Congress
and you're going to go on Joe Roben's podcast, arguably
the biggest podcast in the world, right, so it's a real,
it's a it's a really but you know, it's even

(25:09):
bigger than this show. That's how big Joe Rogan's podcast is.
And you say, you know, not only the government but
defense contractors have this interdimensional technology. Don't you feel obliged
to bring at least a little evidence. It's just really
the sort of thing you can say, trust to me
on I think you're probably know.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
But again, like this is not.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
You know, it's classified.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I'd love to tell you.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's that's Andrew Cuomo saying that I recognize that voice.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Would you do that?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
So, like I look, on the one hand, is this
a big consequential story no, but like Florida thirteenth District,
is there anybody else there you want to you wanna
give a shot at this because I just say, I think,
like you look at this Marshay Taylor, Green, AOC Jazmine.
We've got some real winners up on Capitol Hill, and
I just kind of feel like, you know, you elect

(25:55):
a circus, you get the clowns, like I just I
you know, like, could could we just give all of
these people a reality show and they could go and
they could enjoy doing what they want, which is to
be a celebrity, and we could get people who are
actually interested in government policy rather than crazy conspiracy theories
about interdimensional travel in the actual job of government.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
The sad thing is, Jim that if there is some
other dimension, I'm just gonna assume the Jets and the
Bears are dominating football there. But we'll never ever know.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
We get to that chat never know.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
We can only speculate anyway. Jim on that the.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Last point, like, first of all, I don't believe in
these sorts of conspiracy theories in part because you know
that somewhere in Las Vegas there would be some guy
who'd be hitting on some hot chicken saying, you know,
I'm the guy who guards the aliens over at Area
fifty one. Like, there's no way they'd be able to
keep it secret because people like our government can't keep
secret about anything, and that they think somehow something that

(26:51):
would completely alter or understanding the universe.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
This is how, and it would have to evolve.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Like you know, at minimum dozens, probably hundreds thousands of
people to be involved in these and none of them
have ever blurted out anything that.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
None of them have ever gotten drunk and said, oh
let me talk you.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Oh you're a cute check. Let me show you that
the Grays where they when we keep them underground? Stuff
like that. No, no, so friskup. And here's the thing
you're telling me. All this is going on and Trump
never just put it out on truth Social one day.
You're telling me he wouldn't put this out to get
Epstein out of the headlines.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Come on, get serious people.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
All good points anyway, Jim, have a great Thursday, Talk
to you soon.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
See you soon, Greg, Jim Garretty.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of Radio America. Thanks so
much for being with us today. Also, thank you for
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