November 17, 2025 • 31 mins
Join Jim and Greg for the Monday 3 Martini Lunch as they dive into President Trump urging Republicans to support releasing the Epstein files, disgraced reporter Olivia Nuzzi getting fawning media coverage for her forthcoming book about her relationship with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and James Carville vowing that Democrats will add four seats to the U.S. Supreme Court if they sweep the 2028 elections.
First, they welcome President Trump reversing himself and supporting the Epstein files becoming public. They discuss why Trump is likely doing this after opposing the release for so long, and whether we'll really get to see all the information the government has on Epstein.
Next, Jim details what he learned from a New York Times puff piece on Olivia Nuzzi and her “emotional affair” with then presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. First, JIm says Nuzzi's story is a textbook example of how not to conduct yourself as a journalist. The story also paints Nuzzi in a sympathetic light, but Jim argues she still comes across as a complete “nutjob.” She also levels new accusations at RFK Jr., which Jim sees as more evidence that Kennedy has no business serving as Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Finally, they fire back at James Carville for claiming Democrats have to pack the Supreme Court when and if they have the power to do so in order to have "a Supreme Court people trust again." Radical Vermont Senate candidate Graham Platner says the same thing. Jim says it's astonishing to see the left openly plotting massive upheaval to our system in order to "save democracy" or something.
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First, they welcome President Trump reversing himself and supporting the Epstein files becoming public. They discuss why Trump is likely doing this after opposing the release for so long, and whether we'll really get to see all the information the government has on Epstein.
Next, Jim details what he learned from a New York Times puff piece on Olivia Nuzzi and her “emotional affair” with then presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. First, JIm says Nuzzi's story is a textbook example of how not to conduct yourself as a journalist. The story also paints Nuzzi in a sympathetic light, but Jim argues she still comes across as a complete “nutjob.” She also levels new accusations at RFK Jr., which Jim sees as more evidence that Kennedy has no business serving as Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Finally, they fire back at James Carville for claiming Democrats have to pack the Supreme Court when and if they have the power to do so in order to have "a Supreme Court people trust again." Radical Vermont Senate candidate Graham Platner says the same thing. Jim says it's astonishing to see the left openly plotting massive upheaval to our system in order to "save democracy" or something.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
and Jim Garritty of National Review.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Free Martini's coming up.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hey, so glad you're with us for the Monday edition
of the Three mar Tiny Lunch. It is taking every
ounce of my resolve here, Jim, not to make the
good Martini the first place Chicago Bears in the NFC North.
For the last several weeks they have worked some sort
of magic to beat really bad teams in the last
few seconds, sometimes giving away the leads, sometimes coming back
(00:34):
from behind.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We got a lot of harder a lot of hard
games coming up, and we'll see if we keep the
thing going here. But playing relevant games in November pretty fun.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Greg, I salute you, I congratulate you. I you know,
good for you and all the Chicago Bear fans out there.
I just want to note though, that like I'm in
a track group with a couple of Washington Commanders fans,
and for a long time, the Commander's stunk and the
Jets stunk, and so when the Commanders were good last
year made the playoffs, it felt kind of like you're
all in prison and one of your buddies gets let
(01:04):
out early, and you're like, you're happy for him and her,
but you're kind of like, ah, you know, so mixed
feeling good for you, Greg, good for you. I hope
you join you someday. But I've got more years on
my sentence apparently.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, unfortunately, we still got seven more games to go.
We'll see, we'll see if it continues. But yeah, we're
gonna be talking today about James Carville going further into
further left. He's actually said this before, but he's talking
about the second that Democrats complete the sweep in twenty
twenty eight. He just assumes that part's going to happen,
that they're going to immediately stack the Supreme Court to
(01:37):
thirteen justices. Graham Platner's on board with that too. So
if you're James Carville, there's no place you'd rather be
than in agreement with Graham Plattner. And then, of course
in the Bad Martini. Jim has written today in the
Morning Jolt about Olivia Nuzzies, a new book forthcoming book
whatever it is, talking about her affair not physical but emotional,
(01:59):
Digital Fair with Robert F. Kennedy Junior after she covered
him as an independent presidential candidate last year. But we're
going to start, of course, in just a minute, with
President Trump flipping and supporting now the move to release
all of the Epstein files that the DOJ has, So
Jim a lot to get to today.
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Speaker 2 (03:53):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Jim President of the United States has changed his position
on the release of the Epstein files. Of course, he
campaigned on releasing them in the beginning of the administration.
They said they were going to release everything they had.
Turns out, when they gave the binders to the influencers
that wasn't everything, and then all of a sudden in
the summertime, Pam Bondi said, there's really nothing else to
(04:14):
see here. There was no trafficking, but there's no list.
So we're just all going to go away. And the
American people just said, no, we're not going to let
this go away. This has been hanging out there forever,
and we just don't believe that there's nothing to see here.
And so then the Democrats in the House started this
discharge petition. With the election of the new congressman in Arizona,
(04:35):
they got to two eighteen. Looks like it was going
to pass, which means then a lot more people, especially
on the Republican side, we're going to vote for it,
because you don't want to be stuck looking like you're
hiding something related to Jeffrey Epstein. And so as a
result of that, President Trump with a lengthy truth social
post saying, quote as I said on Friday night, aboard
Air Force one to the fake news media, House, Republicans
(04:57):
should vote to release the Epstein files because we have
nothing to hide and it's time to move on from
this Democrat hoax perpetrated by radical left lunatics in order
to deflect from the great success of the Republican Party,
including our recent victory on the Democratic shutdown. The Department
of Justice has already turned over tens of thousands of
pages to the public on Epstein. Are looking at various
(05:17):
Democrat operatives Bill Clinton, read Hoffman, Larry Summers, etc. And
their relationship to Epstein and the House Oversight Committee can
have whatever they are legally entitled to. I don't care.
All I do care about is that Republicans get back
on point, which is the economy affordability, where we are
winning big our victory and reducing inflation from the highest
level in history to practically nothing. And on and on
(05:38):
it goes. And so Jim, since he's for it now,
I'm not even sure we need a vote. You can
just have PAMBONDI do it. I don't know exactly how
that works. But what do you make of the eleventh
hour change here?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Well, first of all, let's also note that this petition
is for calling upon the Department of Justice to publicly
disclose all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigati matoria in
its possession that related to Jeffrey Epstein or Giselne Maxwell. Now,
as listeners probably know, Maxwell is serving twenty some years
in federal prison, but she recently moved from I believe,
(06:10):
a medium security level, which was kind of standard for
anyone involved in sex trafficking, to a minimum security one,
and there are various reports that this prison is much
much nicer. She also was interviewed by the Deputy Attorney
General during the interview, and you can see that DOJ
did put out the transcript of the interview. She said
Trump never did anything wrong. Trump was never associated with
(06:31):
any of these things, and for all we know, she's
telling the truth. However, when she does that and then
immediately gets transferred to a much nicer prison, I don't
think it's unreasonable to say, hmm, was there some sort
of connection there. I think a lot of people wonder
what would we find in these Department of Justice things
of documents. The other thing that's kind of clear about
this is the message from the White House up until
(06:51):
Trump's true social post was Trump did nothing wrong. There's
absolutely nothing in any of these documents that would indicate
that President Trump ever did anything in all of his
time of knowing Epstein. And no, you can't see them
and that just did not add up that. You know, again,
I don't know what's in these documents, but I just
they are certainly acting the fact when they brought Lauren Bobert,
(07:13):
the Colorado congresswoman Republican, and briefed her in the situation room. Now,
I know they're doing some remodeling over at the White House.
I know that some of the whole East wings not
available anymore for these sorts of ways. But in the
situation where it seemed like usually we're thinking of, like
you know, foreign crises and stuff like that, FBI Director
Cash Pttel and Attorney General Bondi were in that meeting
(07:34):
and emphasizing to Bobert why it was so important that
the House not vote to have these documents released, which, again,
certainly I think it's reasonable to say that looks like
you have something to hide. Now, presumably we're going to
have this vote, Presumably everything is going to get released,
and we will see where the chips fall. I do
think it was very, very odd and a weird thing,
and I wrote about this in the Washington Post today.
(07:56):
Marjorie Taylor Green led the charge on this and got
a lot of grief The President and gave a lot
of grief back Trump. First of all, he's doing this
is the right thing, I think. I think more information
is better than that. It mentions no classified documents. If
you need to redact the victims' names, I think that's
entirely take precautions. I also keep hearing when I say,
when I put this out there, Greg, oh, we can't
(08:16):
do this because other people who are wealthy and associated
with Epstein may have their names out there and they
may have some reputational damage.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Boohoo.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Like you know, there are certain problems in life that
I can relate to. When Marco Rubio's wife, the New
York Times ran that hit piece about our having a
bunch of speeding tickets, missus Rubio, I've been there. Who
among us has not driven too fas parking tickets minor
tax issue.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
There are a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
There are a lot of things that politicians can do
that are bad that the public is going to forgive.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Hang it out with Jeffrey Epstein. Look, we don't relate
to that. We do not know.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh, it turns out this guy hung around with a
lot turned out to be a notorious sex trafficker. That's
not something related to So I kind of feel like
if you hung around with Epstein for a long time
and you.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Say, oh, I never had any idea.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I mean, like some of these people in contact with
after he'd pled guilty to a sex trafficking related crime.
So it was entirely like, I don't believe you when
you say you had no idea any of this was
going on. But anyway, it's good that it's coming out.
It's very good the president is not forcing House Republicans
to take what would have been an excruciatingly difficult vote
to say no, let's not release this. The public does
(09:25):
not have a right to know when like at least
half of them more campaigning on yes, we've got to
release the Epstein files. Like that's what makes this just
so mind boggling here. So look, you know, let's get
the information out there. And I'm glad the president has
this position. Don't understand why he had to be dragged,
kicking and screaming to this position, but I'm glad he's here.
And in a very weird way. Marjori La Taylor Green,
(09:46):
who I still the crazy person who believes in Jewish
space lasers and false flag mass shootings and all kinds
of other stuff. Stood a ground on this and appears
to have won a showdown with President Trump.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Just to clarify what thing you said there, Jim, is
they're not classified material or we're just not going to
see the classified material.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
And you know a lot of people have speculated about
whether Epstein was a foreign intelligence agent of some kind.
As far as I know, no definitive proof has come
along these things. But I think they put that in
there to say, you know, if you say release everything,
and the Department of Justice can say, well, some of
this information is classified, we can't just release it. And
I think it's meant to there to avoid if they say,
what we're you know, it goes from page thirty two
(10:29):
to sixty Four's what's missing in those empty Oh those
pages are classified? Well, then we will know that there's
more to this story and that there's an angle that
needs to be brought to light. Again, I don't buy
into the conspiracy theories that Epstein was some sort of
US intelligence asset. I think the US intelligence community, for
all of its flaws, is not going to go whole
hog into sex trafficking as a way of getting leverage
(10:50):
over powerful people. I know, the whole bunch of Alex
Jones types buy into that. So we'll see what happens.
But it is I'm glad that you jumped onto that
word because it does seem interesting. And yet, you know,
maybe Epstein did have contact with foreign officials, so maybe
this did end up being, you know, scooped up by
our NSA listening or something like that. We'll only know
when the stuff comes out.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Release it all, let the chips fall where they may,
and if there's more to come, then you know, get
ready to declassify, I say, but hopefully we'll get to
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l all right, Jim onto our bad Martini now, and
this is the subject of today's Morning Jolt. Olivia Newsy
(13:10):
is back in the news and it's her relationship with
now HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior that is the
subject of this book. She was covering him as an
independent presidential candidate in twenty twenty four after he dropped
out of the Democratic primary, one that was pretty much
being rigged against him, to be honest, but then it
(13:30):
turned into something more than a candidate reporter relationship, allegedly
nothing physical, but very much an affair over texting and
other ways of communication that way, and then of course
RFK Junior, I think cut it off, and then it
got exposed and Newsy had been engaged and that broke up,
(13:52):
and then obviously it hasn't been probably the easiest time
for RFK Junior and his wife, Cheryl Hines. But Jim,
I think taking away the main focus of your Morning
Jolt today is that when you're a journalist, there are
certain guardrails you're supposed to stay in between. Some people
get a little fuzzy with those guardrails, and some people
(14:13):
leap over them and and just go wherever they want to.
And that's what happened here.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Don't send nudes of yourself to your interview subjects. It's
a rule I've always lived by, Greg. I've also never Okay,
every once in a while, somebody wants them, but I
say no, No, that would be wrong. So a bunch
of people react to Today's Morning Jult like, Jim, this
is so tawdry, this is how are you writing about this? Okay, Look,
(14:40):
don't think it's not really about Olivia Newsy Right, although
I do think that, like I said, this New York
Times article about her, like it's designed to make you
feel sympathetic. I think I think this is it's very glowing,
it's very positive. It's very sympathetic about this tragic love story. Right,
And I read it and I'm like, oh my god,
this woman is a nutjob, like front to back, top
(15:00):
to bottom, you know, from the extremities, deep to the core.
And it's not really so much about her. It's about
the fact that someone decided she should get a book deal.
I have no idea about the size of the book deal,
but somebody decided that her telling her side of the
story was worthy of a book deal.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
The New York.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Times decided that's sending out this reporter to talk to her.
And by the way, like there's at least like five
very glamorous photos of her to go with this profile
and a short little video of her driving with the
hair blowing and the wind and all that stuff at
the top of it. Like this is a like, this
is a very sympathetic, glamorous profile picture of her, and
the other thing is and this is this is the
(15:40):
part where I felt like, Okay, this is worthy of
the of the morning newsletter. Back when it comes out
that she's had this you know, emotional affair, non physical
sexting affair with with Robert F. Kennedy, Junr, she's you know,
eve baby of the magazine Vanity affair, writes quote. The
reports regarding Newsy, which Kennedy has neither confirmed or denied,
(16:03):
come at a dangerous time for the mainstream media, the
credibility of which has increasing attacks in recent years. No kidding,
you know, we've been some of those attackers. It does
not help that pop culture depictions of real journalists suggests
that unprofessional relationships are stock in trade. As the American
media faces a whole new level of distrust and attacks,
the ethical line between journalists and subjects should not be
(16:26):
more important to keep clear. It was about a year
ago in the magazine Vanity Fair.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Hey, Greg, guess what Newsy's doing these days? Working for
working for Vanity Fair.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
In September, she was named Vanny Fair as the West
Coast editor.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I don't know if eve Baty is still there. I
think eve Batty was completely right when she wrote this
back in twenty twenty four. I don't get how Vanity
Fair looks at her and says, yes, this is never
mind a reporting gig, never mind freelancing, this is our
new West Coast editor. That's this is, you know, a
we have taken someone and we are rewarding her, and
(17:03):
she did really really bad behavior.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
And again you know.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
There's something, Oh, you know, we stop worrying about adultery
back in the Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Okay, I don't buy into that. Be fine.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It's still very bad to be in a quasi to
be saying they have a presidential candidate who says he
loves you and that you're sexting with, and you're still
writing about Biden. And Trump, and then then Trump and
Kamala Harris because you have a very vested interest in
the guy who's saying he wants to possess you and
all these other really weird things at Artificle. Let's also
(17:36):
point out that, according to Newsy, she describes him taking
an illegal drug d MT dimethyl a trip to mean,
which is a powerful drug, which basically it's the active
ingredient in when you do a yohuska. I don't know
if I'm pronouncing that correctly that you know. So here's
the thing. You should not take a yohuska. It is
(17:56):
a powerful hallucinogen. The only circumstance you should do so
is if your quarterback of the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
At that point, I understand you need that.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It's referring to Aaron Rodgers, who's now the quarterback for
the Steelers, although I guess he's you know, possibly injured.
But like, I don't think the Secretary of Health and
Human Services should be doing illegal drugs, and that would
be bad. Hey, Drug Enforcement Agency, I got a hot
tip for you, all right, just down the street over
at HHS. So I don't think Robert F. Kennedy is
a good choice to be HHS secretary for a whole
bunch of reasons. How among them, he does not know
(18:25):
the difference between which one is Medicaid which one is
medicare the vaccine stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I think doing powerful hallucinogens is a sign you should
not be running a major cabinet department, never mind won
the controls like one out of every four dollars the
federal government spends. So noway, could she be making this up?
I suppose, But it's not like you can look at
Kennedy with his you know, eating bear meat and the
brainworm and all that stuff. Oh, he wouldn't do something
(18:52):
like that. No, No, he's he's a man of stress.
He's a Kennedy by golly. And if there's anything we've
learned about the Kennedy's as they treat their women really well.
I want to even make a chap of quick Joe,
But you listeners, you know where my mind's going with this.
So I just kind of feel like, even if you
say I don't care about Olivia Newzy, fine, I'm not
saying you have to. I am saying you live in
the media environment where not just one or two yahoos.
(19:15):
But the book publisher, the New York Times, and Vanity
Fair have all chosen to reward her. And the interesting
thing is, at least base I have not read the book.
I'm not really interested in reading the book, but like
the excerpts and the description you get in that New
York Times article, I don't know if Olivia Newzy feels
like she did anything wrong. Like to her, this is
a tragic love story. This is the sort of thing
Taylor Swift things about. That's psycho you know, as I
(19:36):
say at the beginning of the Jolt, if you cover politics,
if you're involved in politics, there's a good chance you're
gon to run into a crazy person. Politics attracts crazy people.
I fear greg that enough crazy people are now in
our political system that saying people are like I don't
want to deal with this, and they go and they
do other stuff with their lives.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
They don't want to get involved in politics.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And if you're like, ah, how do we end up
in such a freak show as Candace, well, this is it.
Like the crazy people have driven out the same people.
So anyway, bad job New York Times, bad job book publisher,
bad job you know, Nity fair, and I just feel
like somebody should say, you know, this is crazy, and
I know people are upset. I din't write, but I
wrote about Syria on Friday. I think I'm entitled to
write about you know, lighter fluffy your stuff sometimes.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, just a couple of thoughts. First of all, I
think when it comes to the mainstream media, it doesn't
matter how crazy you are. If people think you're going
to bring clicks or eyeballs or whatever it is, they'll
they'll roll the dice on you, at least for a
while until the crazy just damages your reputation too much. Also,
if you see the book and you keep hearing Newsy, Newsy,
this has nothing to do with Christian Bale or a
musical about delivering papers in the Tournament of the nineteen hundreds.
(20:39):
And lastly, how long till we get a podcast called
The Asylum involving Olivia Newsy and Taylor the Renz.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh Man, oh man.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I just make them millionaires. I don't know, maybe I.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Did, probably like because there's this idea of like, did
not like? I get the idea of these people want attention.
You can say the same thing about Nickquints. You can
say the same thing, a whole bunch of other you know,
controversy courting, you know, content managers. And part of this
is that social media algorithms have prioritized controversy. Better to
be controversial and getting a lot of reaction than to
be sensible, insane and normal and get zero reaction. But
(21:15):
I kind of feel like, at the same time, when
something is bad, somebody should stand up and say this
is bad. So, you know, that's that's what I did today.
And of course a lot of readers are very upset
about this. They found the villain in the story.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's me. We're writing about it.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
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and James Carville, you know, it's the economist stupid from
nineteen ninety two. He's been kind of gliding on that
for the last thirty plus years. But nonetheless he's usually
still entertaining. But in the Trump era he's gotten much
more maniacal and fanatical about the threat that he thinks
is happening, and you know, the need for Democrats that
(23:24):
they've got to win, They've got to win. So he
was on a podcast with his old friend Al Hunt
from the Capitol Gang Days and Carville is saying, well,
you know, and I know that Democrats are going to
win in twenty twenty eight White House, House Senate. And
guess what's going to happen as soon as they have power,
maybe even in the transition before they have power.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And they're nine two recommend yet the number of Spreme
Court justices go from nine to thirty. That's going to happen, people,
That's going to happen to you. They're going to win.
They're going to do some Blue Ribbon panel of distinguished
jurists and they are going to recommend thirteen and a
(24:04):
Democratic Senate in House going to pass it. And the
Democratic president is going to sign it because you have
to do an intervention so we can have a Supreme
Court if the American people trust again.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
We have to have a Supreme Court the American people
trust again. So we're going to pack it with four Libs.
That'll really bring America together in believing that the court
is is legit. So he's got some interesting bedfellows on this,
including Senate candidate Graham Platner over at Free Beacon. They
say that he's all four stacking the Supreme Court, oh
and impeaching two of the existing justices. Quote, we're going
(24:38):
to have to start treating the Supreme Court like the
political action wing that it has become of conservatism, he said,
it's not functioning as a constitutional body. I'm a supporter
of stacking the court. I'm also a supporter if I
mean the Senate can write its own rules. I firmly
believe if we held Supreme Court justices to the same
standard that we hold other federal judges, there's a compelling
case for the impeachment and removal of at least two justices.
(25:01):
And he thinks that would happen if he were elected
in twenty twenty six. In twenty twenty seven when the
Republican president, he thinks all that would happen, so he
clearly doesn't understand how the system works. But Jim, I mean,
the left lost its mind with Trump, but it's possible
they've lost their mind even more that they know they
can't rely on decisions going their way from the Supreme Court.
(25:22):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So Greg, I was going to start out by being
snarky and say, wow, al Haunt is still alive, but
I looked it up. Al Hunt is eighty two and
Carvel's eighty one. So as much as I'd like to
make fun of these guys for being old one, they're
not in elected office. So like that's you know, that's
my real beef these days. So good for these guys
for at least still being a kicking and you know,
semight coherent two. But Greg says, we can't get the music.
(25:46):
So every time you hear Graham Plattner on this podcast,
just I'm just gonna hum bum bum bum bum the
Indiana Jones Nazi theme. Greg, you said you read aloud.
Platter said, I believe.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It's more I alone supporter of stacking the court. I
know nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
So by the way, like stacking the court. Like he's
not even using the pleasant restoring demockt.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No fabus staff z the court. You know.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
For those who don't get it, this is a reference
to his tattoo that he got, you know, eighteen years ago,
that we accidentally got the Tottenkoff's death head symbol of
the Naziss.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Totally didn't recognize.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
It, even though he's a history boff, he says, and
accidentally got it and also accidentally kept it for eighteen
years and only a short while ago. Never mind the
fact that one of his former campaign staffers said that
he I have a tattoo that might be problematic.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Because it's for the ss I.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
One of the interesting things about our you know friends
on the other side of the aisle is that pretty
much since Trump became the Republican nominee, they've argued that
democracy is at stake, The Constitution is at stake, our
very system of government is at stake, and therefore we
must stack the court. Therefore, we must completely break everything
we've done before. Therefore, we must make Puerto Rico a state.
(27:06):
We must start adding states, willy nilly, we must start
breaking up states to make bigger states. You know, we
must eliminate the electoral college. We must in order to
save the Constitution. We need to compe either completely rewrite
it or we need to ignore it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
We already did the court stacking thing back in the
nineteen thirties, and FDR, who was not exactly an unpopular
figure right like, he was real popular. Took a generation
for Republicans to come back. But even on this point,
the American people are like, uh, uh, nope, sorry, you
can't do that. That is a bad idea. If FDI
at the height of his powers, could not convince the
(27:40):
American people that this is a good idea.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Secondly, look at these.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Points, say do you support a democratic president adding two
to four or however many you know, Supreme Court justices there,
Ask people they think that's a good idea. They're not
going to say it's a good idea because they recognize
what that is is that like, oh, well, we're losing,
so we need to be able to add more people,
and we're going to impeach two more justices because we
need to you know, throw that in there. Like, first
of all, you can try to important, you know, to impeach,
(28:04):
you're not gonna succeed.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
But okay, you know now he said this is all
their dream scenario.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
If Democrats win the presidency, I think you'd probably say
it's like a fifty to fifty shot. You know, if
they win the House, the House is very close. There's
been a whole bunch of redistricting back and forth. I
think everybody would say that twenty twenty six, it's either
a jump ball if the economy's bad, you know, there's
a good chance Democrats get the House, and then there's
a Senate right now, right now, it's fifty three forty seven.
We don't know how the Senate races are going to
(28:29):
shake out. There's been a bunch of cases where you know,
Republicans have not gotten the candidates they wanted to recruit.
Democrats did. But it's still gonna be very tough, still
gonna be rough fifty to fifty all. But they also
want to get rid of the filibuster, which is bit
around forever. And every time they get rid of the
filibuster comes back to bite them in the butt. And
you know, people like Amy klobucharal like, maybe we shouldn't
have done that, but why do we have this government
(28:50):
shutdown for the for the past forty days and forty
nights late a biblical era. Oh, because of the filibuster,
which it was a Jim Crow relic. When Republicans are
using it now, it's okay. And then the moment Democrats
get back a majority of the Senate again, they will
decide that the filibuster that they used over and over again.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Is a terrible thing. It must be destroyed.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
In all this kind of stuff, remember, we need to
make all of these changes in order to save democracy. Yes,
in order to save democracy, we need to change the
rules that we never lose. That's not how it works, Fellas.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
That's saying. He's also talking about, you know, changing the
Senate because not they o, they're cataphoni in not Dakota,
the same numb as Senate is. And so you know
he's there. They're literally trying to upend the whole thing.
And so but yeah, they're the ones, they're the ones
preserving the system. By the way, Jim, I've got some
good news for you. Politico reports that Emily's List did
(29:42):
a poll in Maine, and without voters being informed of
a lot of grand Platner's statements, he's losing to Susan
Collins fifty one to forty two. When they're informed about
his Reddit statements and so forth, he's losing by nineteen.
They say, if he provided a lengthy apology, he'd be
losing by fourteen. Now, unfortunately, there's no pulling here between
(30:03):
Collins and Mills, or Mills and Platner in a primary here.
But as of right now, it's gotten a lot of attention,
so I think his name recognition is fairly high up
there now. Susan Collins, at least on paper, is cleaning
his clock. Long way to go, but still a good.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Greg, Greg, don't get too confident, because yes, Susan Collins
has won every race since she's always strong. Guess he's
Democratic challengers. But Platner gave a launch of blitz crick attack.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You've an attack her.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Oh that's right, Platner, get ready, you're going to hear
that for a long time.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
That's as long as he's in this race. We're doing
Nazi jokes and so that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Anyway, Jim, Happy Monday, See tomorrow, See tomorrow, Greg, Jim Garretty,
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We got a lot of harder a lot of hard
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Speaker 4 (00:44):
Greg, I salute you, I congratulate you. I you know,
good for you and all the Chicago Bear fans out there.
I just want to note though, that like I'm in
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but you're kind of like, ah, you know, so mixed
feeling good for you, Greg, good for you. I hope
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my sentence apparently.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, unfortunately, we still got seven more games to go.
We'll see, we'll see if it continues. But yeah, we're
gonna be talking today about James Carville going further into
further left. He's actually said this before, but he's talking
about the second that Democrats complete the sweep in twenty
twenty eight. He just assumes that part's going to happen,
that they're going to immediately stack the Supreme Court to
(01:37):
thirteen justices. Graham Platner's on board with that too. So
if you're James Carville, there's no place you'd rather be
than in agreement with Graham Plattner. And then, of course
in the Bad Martini. Jim has written today in the
Morning Jolt about Olivia Nuzzies, a new book forthcoming book
whatever it is, talking about her affair not physical but emotional,
(01:59):
Digital Fair with Robert F. Kennedy Junior after she covered
him as an independent presidential candidate last year. But we're
going to start, of course, in just a minute, with
President Trump flipping and supporting now the move to release
all of the Epstein files that the DOJ has, So
Jim a lot to get to today.
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Speaker 3 (03:53):
Jim President of the United States has changed his position
on the release of the Epstein files. Of course, he
campaigned on releasing them in the beginning of the administration.
They said they were going to release everything they had.
Turns out, when they gave the binders to the influencers
that wasn't everything, and then all of a sudden in
the summertime, Pam Bondi said, there's really nothing else to
(04:14):
see here. There was no trafficking, but there's no list.
So we're just all going to go away. And the
American people just said, no, we're not going to let
this go away. This has been hanging out there forever,
and we just don't believe that there's nothing to see here.
And so then the Democrats in the House started this
discharge petition. With the election of the new congressman in Arizona,
(04:35):
they got to two eighteen. Looks like it was going
to pass, which means then a lot more people, especially
on the Republican side, we're going to vote for it,
because you don't want to be stuck looking like you're
hiding something related to Jeffrey Epstein. And so as a
result of that, President Trump with a lengthy truth social
post saying, quote as I said on Friday night, aboard
Air Force one to the fake news media, House, Republicans
(04:57):
should vote to release the Epstein files because we have
nothing to hide and it's time to move on from
this Democrat hoax perpetrated by radical left lunatics in order
to deflect from the great success of the Republican Party,
including our recent victory on the Democratic shutdown. The Department
of Justice has already turned over tens of thousands of
pages to the public on Epstein. Are looking at various
(05:17):
Democrat operatives Bill Clinton, read Hoffman, Larry Summers, etc. And
their relationship to Epstein and the House Oversight Committee can
have whatever they are legally entitled to. I don't care.
All I do care about is that Republicans get back
on point, which is the economy affordability, where we are
winning big our victory and reducing inflation from the highest
level in history to practically nothing. And on and on
(05:38):
it goes. And so Jim, since he's for it now,
I'm not even sure we need a vote. You can
just have PAMBONDI do it. I don't know exactly how
that works. But what do you make of the eleventh
hour change here?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Well, first of all, let's also note that this petition
is for calling upon the Department of Justice to publicly
disclose all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigati matoria in
its possession that related to Jeffrey Epstein or Giselne Maxwell. Now,
as listeners probably know, Maxwell is serving twenty some years
in federal prison, but she recently moved from I believe,
(06:10):
a medium security level, which was kind of standard for
anyone involved in sex trafficking, to a minimum security one,
and there are various reports that this prison is much
much nicer. She also was interviewed by the Deputy Attorney
General during the interview, and you can see that DOJ
did put out the transcript of the interview. She said
Trump never did anything wrong. Trump was never associated with
(06:31):
any of these things, and for all we know, she's
telling the truth. However, when she does that and then
immediately gets transferred to a much nicer prison, I don't
think it's unreasonable to say, hmm, was there some sort
of connection there. I think a lot of people wonder
what would we find in these Department of Justice things
of documents. The other thing that's kind of clear about
this is the message from the White House up until
(06:51):
Trump's true social post was Trump did nothing wrong. There's
absolutely nothing in any of these documents that would indicate
that President Trump ever did anything in all of his
time of knowing Epstein. And no, you can't see them
and that just did not add up that. You know, again,
I don't know what's in these documents, but I just
they are certainly acting the fact when they brought Lauren Bobert,
(07:13):
the Colorado congresswoman Republican, and briefed her in the situation room. Now,
I know they're doing some remodeling over at the White House.
I know that some of the whole East wings not
available anymore for these sorts of ways. But in the
situation where it seemed like usually we're thinking of, like
you know, foreign crises and stuff like that, FBI Director
Cash Pttel and Attorney General Bondi were in that meeting
(07:34):
and emphasizing to Bobert why it was so important that
the House not vote to have these documents released, which, again,
certainly I think it's reasonable to say that looks like
you have something to hide. Now, presumably we're going to
have this vote, Presumably everything is going to get released,
and we will see where the chips fall. I do
think it was very, very odd and a weird thing,
and I wrote about this in the Washington Post today.
(07:56):
Marjorie Taylor Green led the charge on this and got
a lot of grief The President and gave a lot
of grief back Trump. First of all, he's doing this
is the right thing, I think. I think more information
is better than that. It mentions no classified documents. If
you need to redact the victims' names, I think that's
entirely take precautions. I also keep hearing when I say,
when I put this out there, Greg, oh, we can't
(08:16):
do this because other people who are wealthy and associated
with Epstein may have their names out there and they
may have some reputational damage.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Boohoo.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Like you know, there are certain problems in life that
I can relate to. When Marco Rubio's wife, the New
York Times ran that hit piece about our having a
bunch of speeding tickets, missus Rubio, I've been there. Who
among us has not driven too fas parking tickets minor
tax issue.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
There are a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
There are a lot of things that politicians can do
that are bad that the public is going to forgive.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Hang it out with Jeffrey Epstein. Look, we don't relate
to that. We do not know.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh, it turns out this guy hung around with a
lot turned out to be a notorious sex trafficker. That's
not something related to So I kind of feel like
if you hung around with Epstein for a long time
and you.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Say, oh, I never had any idea.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I mean, like some of these people in contact with
after he'd pled guilty to a sex trafficking related crime.
So it was entirely like, I don't believe you when
you say you had no idea any of this was
going on. But anyway, it's good that it's coming out.
It's very good the president is not forcing House Republicans
to take what would have been an excruciatingly difficult vote
to say no, let's not release this. The public does
(09:25):
not have a right to know when like at least
half of them more campaigning on yes, we've got to
release the Epstein files. Like that's what makes this just
so mind boggling here. So look, you know, let's get
the information out there. And I'm glad the president has
this position. Don't understand why he had to be dragged,
kicking and screaming to this position, but I'm glad he's here.
And in a very weird way. Marjori La Taylor Green,
(09:46):
who I still the crazy person who believes in Jewish
space lasers and false flag mass shootings and all kinds
of other stuff. Stood a ground on this and appears
to have won a showdown with President Trump.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Just to clarify what thing you said there, Jim, is
they're not classified material or we're just not going to
see the classified material.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
And you know a lot of people have speculated about
whether Epstein was a foreign intelligence agent of some kind.
As far as I know, no definitive proof has come
along these things. But I think they put that in
there to say, you know, if you say release everything,
and the Department of Justice can say, well, some of
this information is classified, we can't just release it. And
I think it's meant to there to avoid if they say,
what we're you know, it goes from page thirty two
(10:29):
to sixty Four's what's missing in those empty Oh those
pages are classified? Well, then we will know that there's
more to this story and that there's an angle that
needs to be brought to light. Again, I don't buy
into the conspiracy theories that Epstein was some sort of
US intelligence asset. I think the US intelligence community, for
all of its flaws, is not going to go whole
hog into sex trafficking as a way of getting leverage
(10:50):
over powerful people. I know, the whole bunch of Alex
Jones types buy into that. So we'll see what happens.
But it is I'm glad that you jumped onto that
word because it does seem interesting. And yet, you know,
maybe Epstein did have contact with foreign officials, so maybe
this did end up being, you know, scooped up by
our NSA listening or something like that. We'll only know
when the stuff comes out.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Release it all, let the chips fall where they may,
and if there's more to come, then you know, get
ready to declassify, I say, but hopefully we'll get to
the full story as much as can be told as
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this is the subject of today's Morning Jolt. Olivia Newsy
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is back in the news and it's her relationship with
now HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior that is the
subject of this book. She was covering him as an
independent presidential candidate in twenty twenty four after he dropped
out of the Democratic primary, one that was pretty much
being rigged against him, to be honest, but then it
(13:30):
turned into something more than a candidate reporter relationship, allegedly
nothing physical, but very much an affair over texting and
other ways of communication that way, and then of course
RFK Junior, I think cut it off, and then it
got exposed and Newsy had been engaged and that broke up,
(13:52):
and then obviously it hasn't been probably the easiest time
for RFK Junior and his wife, Cheryl Hines. But Jim,
I think taking away the main focus of your Morning
Jolt today is that when you're a journalist, there are
certain guardrails you're supposed to stay in between. Some people
get a little fuzzy with those guardrails, and some people
(14:13):
leap over them and and just go wherever they want to.
And that's what happened here.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Don't send nudes of yourself to your interview subjects. It's
a rule I've always lived by, Greg. I've also never Okay,
every once in a while, somebody wants them, but I
say no, No, that would be wrong. So a bunch
of people react to Today's Morning Jult like, Jim, this
is so tawdry, this is how are you writing about this? Okay, Look,
(14:40):
don't think it's not really about Olivia Newsy Right, although
I do think that, like I said, this New York
Times article about her, like it's designed to make you
feel sympathetic. I think I think this is it's very glowing,
it's very positive. It's very sympathetic about this tragic love story. Right,
And I read it and I'm like, oh my god,
this woman is a nutjob, like front to back, top
(15:00):
to bottom, you know, from the extremities, deep to the core.
And it's not really so much about her. It's about
the fact that someone decided she should get a book deal.
I have no idea about the size of the book deal,
but somebody decided that her telling her side of the
story was worthy of a book deal.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
The New York.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Times decided that's sending out this reporter to talk to her.
And by the way, like there's at least like five
very glamorous photos of her to go with this profile
and a short little video of her driving with the
hair blowing and the wind and all that stuff at
the top of it. Like this is a like, this
is a very sympathetic, glamorous profile picture of her, and
the other thing is and this is this is the
(15:40):
part where I felt like, Okay, this is worthy of
the of the morning newsletter. Back when it comes out
that she's had this you know, emotional affair, non physical
sexting affair with with Robert F. Kennedy, Junr, she's you know,
eve baby of the magazine Vanity affair, writes quote. The
reports regarding Newsy, which Kennedy has neither confirmed or denied,
(16:03):
come at a dangerous time for the mainstream media, the
credibility of which has increasing attacks in recent years. No kidding,
you know, we've been some of those attackers. It does
not help that pop culture depictions of real journalists suggests
that unprofessional relationships are stock in trade. As the American
media faces a whole new level of distrust and attacks,
the ethical line between journalists and subjects should not be
(16:26):
more important to keep clear. It was about a year
ago in the magazine Vanity Fair.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Hey, Greg, guess what Newsy's doing these days? Working for
working for Vanity Fair.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
In September, she was named Vanny Fair as the West
Coast editor.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I don't know if eve Baty is still there. I
think eve Batty was completely right when she wrote this
back in twenty twenty four. I don't get how Vanity
Fair looks at her and says, yes, this is never
mind a reporting gig, never mind freelancing, this is our
new West Coast editor. That's this is, you know, a
we have taken someone and we are rewarding her, and
(17:03):
she did really really bad behavior.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
And again you know.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
There's something, Oh, you know, we stop worrying about adultery
back in the Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Okay, I don't buy into that. Be fine.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It's still very bad to be in a quasi to
be saying they have a presidential candidate who says he
loves you and that you're sexting with, and you're still
writing about Biden. And Trump, and then then Trump and
Kamala Harris because you have a very vested interest in
the guy who's saying he wants to possess you and
all these other really weird things at Artificle. Let's also
(17:36):
point out that, according to Newsy, she describes him taking
an illegal drug d MT dimethyl a trip to mean,
which is a powerful drug, which basically it's the active
ingredient in when you do a yohuska. I don't know
if I'm pronouncing that correctly that you know. So here's
the thing. You should not take a yohuska. It is
(17:56):
a powerful hallucinogen. The only circumstance you should do so
is if your quarterback of the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
At that point, I understand you need that.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It's referring to Aaron Rodgers, who's now the quarterback for
the Steelers, although I guess he's you know, possibly injured.
But like, I don't think the Secretary of Health and
Human Services should be doing illegal drugs, and that would
be bad. Hey, Drug Enforcement Agency, I got a hot
tip for you, all right, just down the street over
at HHS. So I don't think Robert F. Kennedy is
a good choice to be HHS secretary for a whole
bunch of reasons. How among them, he does not know
(18:25):
the difference between which one is Medicaid which one is
medicare the vaccine stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I think doing powerful hallucinogens is a sign you should
not be running a major cabinet department, never mind won
the controls like one out of every four dollars the
federal government spends. So noway, could she be making this up?
I suppose, But it's not like you can look at
Kennedy with his you know, eating bear meat and the
brainworm and all that stuff. Oh, he wouldn't do something
(18:52):
like that. No, No, he's he's a man of stress.
He's a Kennedy by golly. And if there's anything we've
learned about the Kennedy's as they treat their women really well.
I want to even make a chap of quick Joe,
But you listeners, you know where my mind's going with this.
So I just kind of feel like, even if you
say I don't care about Olivia Newzy, fine, I'm not
saying you have to. I am saying you live in
the media environment where not just one or two yahoos.
(19:15):
But the book publisher, the New York Times, and Vanity
Fair have all chosen to reward her. And the interesting
thing is, at least base I have not read the book.
I'm not really interested in reading the book, but like
the excerpts and the description you get in that New
York Times article, I don't know if Olivia Newzy feels
like she did anything wrong. Like to her, this is
a tragic love story. This is the sort of thing
Taylor Swift things about. That's psycho you know, as I
(19:36):
say at the beginning of the Jolt, if you cover politics,
if you're involved in politics, there's a good chance you're
gon to run into a crazy person. Politics attracts crazy people.
I fear greg that enough crazy people are now in
our political system that saying people are like I don't
want to deal with this, and they go and they
do other stuff with their lives.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
They don't want to get involved in politics.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And if you're like, ah, how do we end up
in such a freak show as Candace, well, this is it.
Like the crazy people have driven out the same people.
So anyway, bad job New York Times, bad job book publisher,
bad job you know, Nity fair, and I just feel
like somebody should say, you know, this is crazy, and
I know people are upset. I din't write, but I
wrote about Syria on Friday. I think I'm entitled to
write about you know, lighter fluffy your stuff sometimes.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, just a couple of thoughts. First of all, I
think when it comes to the mainstream media, it doesn't
matter how crazy you are. If people think you're going
to bring clicks or eyeballs or whatever it is, they'll
they'll roll the dice on you, at least for a
while until the crazy just damages your reputation too much. Also,
if you see the book and you keep hearing Newsy, Newsy,
this has nothing to do with Christian Bale or a
musical about delivering papers in the Tournament of the nineteen hundreds.
(20:39):
And lastly, how long till we get a podcast called
The Asylum involving Olivia Newsy and Taylor the Renz.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh Man, oh man.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I just make them millionaires. I don't know, maybe I.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Did, probably like because there's this idea of like, did
not like? I get the idea of these people want attention.
You can say the same thing about Nickquints. You can
say the same thing, a whole bunch of other you know,
controversy courting, you know, content managers. And part of this
is that social media algorithms have prioritized controversy. Better to
be controversial and getting a lot of reaction than to
be sensible, insane and normal and get zero reaction. But
(21:15):
I kind of feel like, at the same time, when
something is bad, somebody should stand up and say this
is bad. So, you know, that's that's what I did today.
And of course a lot of readers are very upset
about this. They found the villain in the story.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's me. We're writing about it.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yes, you noticed it. That's always exactly, always the problem.
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(23:03):
and James Carville, you know, it's the economist stupid from
nineteen ninety two. He's been kind of gliding on that
for the last thirty plus years. But nonetheless he's usually
still entertaining. But in the Trump era he's gotten much
more maniacal and fanatical about the threat that he thinks
is happening, and you know, the need for Democrats that
(23:24):
they've got to win, They've got to win. So he
was on a podcast with his old friend Al Hunt
from the Capitol Gang Days and Carville is saying, well,
you know, and I know that Democrats are going to
win in twenty twenty eight White House, House Senate. And
guess what's going to happen as soon as they have power,
maybe even in the transition before they have power.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And they're nine two recommend yet the number of Spreme
Court justices go from nine to thirty. That's going to happen, people,
That's going to happen to you. They're going to win.
They're going to do some Blue Ribbon panel of distinguished
jurists and they are going to recommend thirteen and a
(24:04):
Democratic Senate in House going to pass it. And the
Democratic president is going to sign it because you have
to do an intervention so we can have a Supreme
Court if the American people trust again.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
We have to have a Supreme Court the American people
trust again. So we're going to pack it with four Libs.
That'll really bring America together in believing that the court
is is legit. So he's got some interesting bedfellows on this,
including Senate candidate Graham Platner over at Free Beacon. They
say that he's all four stacking the Supreme Court, oh
and impeaching two of the existing justices. Quote, we're going
(24:38):
to have to start treating the Supreme Court like the
political action wing that it has become of conservatism, he said,
it's not functioning as a constitutional body. I'm a supporter
of stacking the court. I'm also a supporter if I
mean the Senate can write its own rules. I firmly
believe if we held Supreme Court justices to the same
standard that we hold other federal judges, there's a compelling
case for the impeachment and removal of at least two justices.
(25:01):
And he thinks that would happen if he were elected
in twenty twenty six. In twenty twenty seven when the
Republican president, he thinks all that would happen, so he
clearly doesn't understand how the system works. But Jim, I mean,
the left lost its mind with Trump, but it's possible
they've lost their mind even more that they know they
can't rely on decisions going their way from the Supreme Court.
(25:22):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So Greg, I was going to start out by being
snarky and say, wow, al Haunt is still alive, but
I looked it up. Al Hunt is eighty two and
Carvel's eighty one. So as much as I'd like to
make fun of these guys for being old one, they're
not in elected office. So like that's you know, that's
my real beef these days. So good for these guys
for at least still being a kicking and you know,
semight coherent two. But Greg says, we can't get the music.
(25:46):
So every time you hear Graham Plattner on this podcast,
just I'm just gonna hum bum bum bum bum the
Indiana Jones Nazi theme. Greg, you said you read aloud.
Platter said, I believe.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It's more I alone supporter of stacking the court. I
know nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
So by the way, like stacking the court. Like he's
not even using the pleasant restoring demockt.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No fabus staff z the court. You know.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
For those who don't get it, this is a reference
to his tattoo that he got, you know, eighteen years ago,
that we accidentally got the Tottenkoff's death head symbol of
the Naziss.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Totally didn't recognize.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
It, even though he's a history boff, he says, and
accidentally got it and also accidentally kept it for eighteen
years and only a short while ago. Never mind the
fact that one of his former campaign staffers said that
he I have a tattoo that might be problematic.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Because it's for the ss I.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
One of the interesting things about our you know friends
on the other side of the aisle is that pretty
much since Trump became the Republican nominee, they've argued that
democracy is at stake, The Constitution is at stake, our
very system of government is at stake, and therefore we
must stack the court. Therefore, we must completely break everything
we've done before. Therefore, we must make Puerto Rico a state.
(27:06):
We must start adding states, willy nilly, we must start
breaking up states to make bigger states. You know, we
must eliminate the electoral college. We must in order to
save the Constitution. We need to compe either completely rewrite
it or we need to ignore it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
We already did the court stacking thing back in the
nineteen thirties, and FDR, who was not exactly an unpopular
figure right like, he was real popular. Took a generation
for Republicans to come back. But even on this point,
the American people are like, uh, uh, nope, sorry, you
can't do that. That is a bad idea. If FDI
at the height of his powers, could not convince the
(27:40):
American people that this is a good idea.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Secondly, look at these.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Points, say do you support a democratic president adding two
to four or however many you know, Supreme Court justices there,
Ask people they think that's a good idea. They're not
going to say it's a good idea because they recognize
what that is is that like, oh, well, we're losing,
so we need to be able to add more people,
and we're going to impeach two more justices because we
need to you know, throw that in there. Like, first
of all, you can try to important, you know, to impeach,
(28:04):
you're not gonna succeed.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
But okay, you know now he said this is all
their dream scenario.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
If Democrats win the presidency, I think you'd probably say
it's like a fifty to fifty shot. You know, if
they win the House, the House is very close. There's
been a whole bunch of redistricting back and forth. I
think everybody would say that twenty twenty six, it's either
a jump ball if the economy's bad, you know, there's
a good chance Democrats get the House, and then there's
a Senate right now, right now, it's fifty three forty seven.
We don't know how the Senate races are going to
(28:29):
shake out. There's been a bunch of cases where you know,
Republicans have not gotten the candidates they wanted to recruit.
Democrats did. But it's still gonna be very tough, still
gonna be rough fifty to fifty all. But they also
want to get rid of the filibuster, which is bit
around forever. And every time they get rid of the
filibuster comes back to bite them in the butt. And
you know, people like Amy klobucharal like, maybe we shouldn't
have done that, but why do we have this government
(28:50):
shutdown for the for the past forty days and forty
nights late a biblical era. Oh, because of the filibuster,
which it was a Jim Crow relic. When Republicans are
using it now, it's okay. And then the moment Democrats
get back a majority of the Senate again, they will
decide that the filibuster that they used over and over again.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Is a terrible thing. It must be destroyed.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
In all this kind of stuff, remember, we need to
make all of these changes in order to save democracy. Yes,
in order to save democracy, we need to change the
rules that we never lose. That's not how it works, Fellas.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
That's saying. He's also talking about, you know, changing the
Senate because not they o, they're cataphoni in not Dakota,
the same numb as Senate is. And so you know
he's there. They're literally trying to upend the whole thing.
And so but yeah, they're the ones, they're the ones
preserving the system. By the way, Jim, I've got some
good news for you. Politico reports that Emily's List did
(29:42):
a poll in Maine, and without voters being informed of
a lot of grand Platner's statements, he's losing to Susan
Collins fifty one to forty two. When they're informed about
his Reddit statements and so forth, he's losing by nineteen.
They say, if he provided a lengthy apology, he'd be
losing by fourteen. Now, unfortunately, there's no pulling here between
(30:03):
Collins and Mills, or Mills and Platner in a primary here.
But as of right now, it's gotten a lot of attention,
so I think his name recognition is fairly high up
there now. Susan Collins, at least on paper, is cleaning
his clock. Long way to go, but still a good.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Greg, Greg, don't get too confident, because yes, Susan Collins
has won every race since she's always strong. Guess he's
Democratic challengers. But Platner gave a launch of blitz crick attack.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You've an attack her.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Oh that's right, Platner, get ready, you're going to hear
that for a long time.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
That's as long as he's in this race. We're doing
Nazi jokes and so that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Anyway, Jim, Happy Monday, See tomorrow, See tomorrow, Greg, Jim Garretty,
National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of Radio America. Thanks so
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