Join Jim and Greg for the Tuesday 3 Martini Lunch. Today, they applaud President Trump for ratcheting up the pressure on Vladimir Putin and scold him for refusing to allow the president of Taiwan to visit the U.S. And they examine the arrest of the illegal alien serving as a police officer in Maine.
First, after noting the passing of Chicago Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg, they cheer President Trump for giving Putin a firm 10–12 day deadline to end the war in Ukraine. Trump appears to be losing patience with Putin’s broken promises and ongoing escalations. Jim and Greg also explore how Trump might respond if Putin ignores the warning, and they question America’s continued dependence on adversaries like Russia and China for materials vital to national security.
Next, they slam Trump’s refusal to let Taiwanese President Lai Ching-te stop in New York City en route to Latin America. While the move may be tied to sensitive trade talks with Beijing, Jim argues the U.S. should never let China dictate who can enter our country. They also examine how this decision may embolden the Chinese government.
Finally, they break down the arrest of an illegal immigrant in Maine who was not only trying to buy a gun but was already working as a local police officer. While officials claim to have used E-Verify to confirm his status, Jim notes the system can’t verify whether applicants actually own the documents they present.
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First, after noting the passing of Chicago Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg, they cheer President Trump for giving Putin a firm 10–12 day deadline to end the war in Ukraine. Trump appears to be losing patience with Putin’s broken promises and ongoing escalations. Jim and Greg also explore how Trump might respond if Putin ignores the warning, and they question America’s continued dependence on adversaries like Russia and China for materials vital to national security.
Next, they slam Trump’s refusal to let Taiwanese President Lai Ching-te stop in New York City en route to Latin America. While the move may be tied to sensitive trade talks with Beijing, Jim argues the U.S. should never let China dictate who can enter our country. They also examine how this decision may embolden the Chinese government.
Finally, they break down the arrest of an illegal immigrant in Maine who was not only trying to buy a gun but was already working as a local police officer. While officials claim to have used E-Verify to confirm his status, Jim notes the system can’t verify whether applicants actually own the documents they present.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
and Jim Garrity of National Review. Free martinis coming up,
so many wild things to talk about today on the
Tuesday edition of The Three Martini Lunch. We're very glad
you're here. We'll be talking about the illegal who was
caught while working as a police officer, nonetheless but still
(00:25):
trying to illegally obtain a firearm. That we'll definitely get
to that. We also have some good Trump bad Trump today.
His running out of patience with Vladimir Putin is certainly good,
but his treatment of the President of Taiwan a little
bit of a head scratcher. I think I know why
it's happening, but it's still not I don't think the
right move. Before we get going in here, Jim, we
(00:46):
talked at the end of last week, of course, about
all the phenomenal figures who were household names in the eighties,
hul Cogan, Ozzy Osbourne, Malcolm Jamrow Warner, and at the
time I knew this was coming, but it still stings.
Last night we found out that Ryan's aberg the Great
Second Basement for the Cubs my favorite baseball player. One
of the reasons I cheered for the Cubs. That and
(01:07):
WGN and Harry Carey getting increasingly uninhibited as the game
went on, and just summer afternoons Cubs home games of
course during the day at that time, and just absolutely
delightful to watch that all summer long. Again, another reminder
that the eighties was a long time ago. Even though
Sandberg just sixty five years old that seems awfully young
(01:27):
to us now, had battled prostate cancer, seemed to be
in the clear, and there's a few months later it
was not only back but metastatic prostate cancer, and he
again died ishedate at the age of sixty five. Metastatic
prostate cancer, of course, the same thing former President Joe
Biden dealing with at a much older age. So, Jim,
the days keep going, and sometimes it's haired it does.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And you mentioned how you fell in love with the Cubs,
I just know them by saying hi, everybody, you know,
I just know that would bring a smile to your face,
because everybody you hear that, you think of Harry Carey,
you think of his crazy eyeglasses, and just the joy
of that. I think it was the Athletic at a
headline that put it, well, this says, look, you think
Chicago sports today, people think of Michael Jordan, Mike Ditka, Sweetness,
(02:11):
Walter Payton. Clearly the eighty five Bears were this, you know,
epic conquering heroes of the NFL of that era. But
before then Chicago's sports was dominated by the Cubs and
Ryan Sandberg, and obviously not the Cubs with the tradition
of winning. So when you could really be known for
excellence on a team that is I think it was
George Will who said any team could have a bad
(02:32):
century or so. You know, the Jets are like fifteen
years into that. You know, yes, it is kind of
heartbreaking to lose the heroes of our youth, and I
hope they feel very appreciated in the time that they
were here.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Ten All Star appearances, nine Gold Gloves, seven Silver Sluggers,
and at one point the all time leader in home
runs for second basemen and gosh, he just went long,
long stretches without ever committing an er, and at second
base in the middle of the play at a time
when people could raise their feet up and spiky in
the knees while they were sliding into second trying to
break up the double play. That's saying quite a lot,
(03:08):
but also just a fantastic guy with the fans, absolutely
beloved figure. And again just some more tough news. But
let's get onto our good news. And President Trump might
be overseas, might be playing a decent amount of golf,
but he's definitely making headlines. Yesterday we talked about the
deal with the EU and kind of this parade of
people that are coming up to Turnbury, Scotland to meet
(03:28):
with him. From the EU commissioned President Ursula Vanderlion to
British Prime Minister Cure Starmer yesterday. I think it was
during the visit with Starmer. In fact, the President was
asked about Vladimir Putin and Russia and Ukraine. And Trump
has been made it very clear over the past several
weeks that he's running out of patients with Putin, and
he got a little more specific with what he means
(03:49):
by that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm gonna make a new deadline of about ten, ten
or twelve days from today. There's no reason in waiting,
there's no reason they're waiting. It's fifty days. I want
to be generous, but we just don't see any progress being.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Made, and so, Jim, I think we've talked about this before,
but basically Trump is a deal maker. Trump's a negotiator,
and what he expects is when people say things that
they'll pretty much follow through on them, which Vladimir Putin
has not done at all. He's feigned interest in coming
to a resolution here, but every time he does, you know,
(04:27):
the hostilities ramp up. If anything, they at least certainly
stay at the same intensity. And Trump is tired of
play in this game. Now what he has in mind
in terms of the consequences. Obviously, if nothing happens in
the next week to week and a half two weeks here,
that'll be the big tell Greg.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know, listeners know I've been critical of the president
quite a bit, and probably the first couple months the administration,
no policy decision was driving me battier than this treatment
of Vladimir Putin as a serious partner for peace, for
taking a for being strung along endlessly in these for
sending wit cough. It was just, you know, all terrible.
(05:03):
The dressing down of Zelensky in the Oval office, and
a lot of that has changed. It was a you know,
there were interesting reports that Trump had asked his advisors,
has Putin changed since the last time I spoke to
him when in the first term. And there's probably there
are people who are Russia experts who say, yeah, you know,
a lot of time in isolation during COVID may well
(05:24):
have changed the way pot and sees the world and
the way he acts and makes decisions. There are whole
bunch people who figured Putin was never gonna invade because
it was seen as irrational. I was seen as too
big a risk for to a little reward. Putin chose
to invade back in twenty twenty two. Trump reportedly was
shocked by Russian forces attacking civilians, bombing apartment buildings, killing children,
bombing a maternity hospital, things like that. And so, you know,
(05:47):
some of us who've been covering the war since the
beginning might say, yes, this has been going on since
February twenty point two. This is this is not something new,
mister president. But the president's patience is not eternal, and
the president did not let himself to endlessly be run along.
When Trump announced fifty days like again, I was glad
to see that, putting any limit on it. But there
are a lot of people who said, well, if you've
seen no progress up until now, why are you giving
(06:10):
putin another fifty days before you impose some sort of consequences.
You know, the Russians will simply interpret that as Okay,
we have fifty days to do whatever we want, and
then we have to act like we're going to we're
interested in a peace deal again. And if the war
does get kind of if the US somehow manages us
to shove both sides towards a ceasefire, well then Russia
wants to gain as much territory as possible before then,
(06:31):
So attend to twelve day deadline is better. I think
if you can probably ask the question of like, if
you've seen no progress, why do you need another ten
to twelve days? But you know what you know, I
will i will not look a gift horse in the mouth.
I'm just very pleased to see this president. You mentioned
what options there are. It's to the surprise of some people.
I am not a fan of the Lindsay Graham bill
that's currently in the Senate now. Basically, it allows the
(06:52):
president to impose up to five hundred percent tariffs on
any country that is purchasing Russian oil. All right's rush
Russian energy. The Russian energy supplies in any ways, shape
or form. Now, one complication among them is that one
of the countries that is buying Russian energy is the
United States of America. We purchase plutonium for them from
(07:12):
them for our nuclear plants. These were deals that were
negotiated before the invasion, and they are basically legally binding
that even if we were to turn away that they've
already been paid for, and the US could turn away
the plutonium. But like, they're still getting their money one
way or the other. But nonetheless, it is still a
little bit of an embarrassment that we staunchly opposing Russia
(07:33):
are actually still buying products from them. A lot of
European countries are buying Russian energy products. Japan is purchasing
Russian energy products, Brazil, South Korea. So the question is
do we want to impose up to five hundred percent
tariffs on a whole bunch of our trading partners over this.
Now I can understand the argument maybe having this as
a threat would discourage these other countries from purchasing Russian
(07:55):
energy projects. I guess I'm willing to hear the arguments
on that. But this seems like Lindsay Graham wanted to
take one of Trump's favorite things, which is tariffs, and
tie that to a way of punishing not just Russia
but anybody who's supporting their war machine by purchasing their
energy products. Look, we have sanctioned them up the wazoo.
We have done a lot of stuff. Look, has the
(08:17):
Russian economy completely collapsed since the start of the war. No,
but you hear a lot of creeks. There are a
lot of people who study it who say interest rates
are unbelievably high over there, cash reserves are low, spare
parts are low. They're having basically like the strain on
the system is quite considerable. So I'm curious to see
what the administration wants to do in terms of punishing Russia.
But I look, this is a sea change in the
(08:38):
President's attitude from a couple of months ago, and I
am just thrilled for it. At a boy, mister President,
keep going, And I think this is greatly enhances the
chances of not just an end to the war, not
just peace, but a just piece or a more a
end to the war that will preserve as much territorial
integrity on the part of the Ukrainians as possible, and
leave the Russian war machine as defenged as possible.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, and we'll see what other the tools he has
in his arsenal. There's obviously, I think some sanctions that
we haven't already applied. Don't know what else he could
potentially do diplomatically. It just makes me cringe every time
when I find out that we're reliably dependent on somebody
like Russia or China for something we have to have,
like plutonium in this case, or China makes a ton
(09:23):
of our medicines, or.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Rare earth metals, yeah, the space program.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know, our own ammunition.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah.
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Jim onto our bad Martini now. And of course, the
tensions along the Taiwan Straits have been an issue that
(11:31):
simmer from time to time. There always seems to be
something else that's bigger than that on the front page
of the paper. But this is certainly one of the
objectives of the Communist Chinese Party is to bring back
Taiwan fully under communist Chinese control. The US, of course,
has defended Taiwan for the most part, to promise to
defend Taiwana. That was very confusing during the Biden administration
(11:53):
because Biden would say, you know, absolutely, we're going to
defend them, and then his team would be, oh, no,
nothing's changed.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Nothing's the President meant to say is that we have
a one China policy and we just won't say which
one is the one China we recognize, which always struck
me as a crazy policy.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
But that's absolutely absolutely that policy started during the Carter administration.
It made no sense in the nineteen seventies and it
still makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You could see the peanut farmer's fingerprints all over it.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yes, So anyway, the president of Taiwan right now is
a guy that we wanted to win the last election.
His name is ly Ching Tay, and he was scheduling
a trip to Latin America but wanted to stop in
New York City along the way. But the US government
has denied that stop in New York City, so the
whole trip has had to have been canceled now. And
(12:42):
Jim the Okham's razor argument here is that Trump knows
that he's got this August first deadline with the Chinese
still don't have the final details worked out on this
Rework trade agreement, so doesn't want to irk Beijing here
in these final days, and that's probably why that happened.
But even if that is the case, this is a
pretty small as, at least in my mind, allowing the
president lie to come to the United States just for
(13:05):
a brief time on his way on his trip.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It stinks, and you know, the president had been on
this hot streak from my perspective, taking out the Iranian
nuclear program. By the way, Ignatius's column in the Post says,
it's been set back at least a year and with
considerable likelihood of a you know, further delays and problems
and serious challenges they would have to developing any you know,
(13:28):
doing anything further in secret, strengthening NATO, getting every NATO
par except Spain to agree to spend five percent of
GDP on defense, and then you know, sending aid to
NATO that NATO will turn around and then give to Ukraine.
That's great. Like you know what if you talked to
earlier the first Martini, Trump had been on such a
good run, and now you knew it was going to
(13:48):
have to come to an end over something. I'm not shocked.
You know, Trump in the past has you know, when
asked about defending Taiwan immediately pivoted to complaining about them
on trade issues, which does not indicate a burgeoning desire
to defend Taiwan from a bullying neighbor. But also just
I want to point out, like we're the United States
(14:10):
of America. We decide who gets to visit US, not China.
The Financial Times coverage of the story, it says China
objects to Taiwanese leaders visiting the US, which does not
have official diplomatic relations with Taipei. Now that's a little
bit of a wink and a nod, because we don't
have an embassy over in Taipei. We have the American
Institute in Taipei, and we have a special representative who's
(14:32):
totally not a diplomat, including my friend and colleague, Teres
Shaheen served in this capacity. They're not an ambassador. Wink.
Never mind that when you come back to the United
States you could be called an ambassador. Again. This is
the ridiculousness of having what functions as full diplomatic relations
with the country but not saying it's saying to the
rest of all, it's not diplomatic relations. We don't recognize them.
(14:55):
You put the Taiwanese government in a lineup with other governments,
we cannot pick them out. We don't recognize them. That's
the that's the official ruling there. But it says that,
you know, basically, to China, we shouldn't be allowed to
host them, Well, go pound sand that's not that's not
your call. We decide who, we decide we want to
host them. We decide who goes through our airports. You
don't get a veto over this now. If it later
(15:16):
comes out the Trump administration said, don't do this now,
we got to get through this trade negotiation. Oh, by
the way, we're supposed to have tariffs going on effect
on Taipei too, on Taiwan. But if they said not, now,
let's get through this particular tense group of negotiations and
then we'll be fine. Fine, I could live with that.
That's a different restriction. But basically, you know, it's saying
to you know, the leader of Taiwan, no, you cannot
(15:39):
visit the United States, and therefore you're not allowed to
visit Paraguay, Guatemala and Belize. First of all, greg who
wouldn't want to get away to Paraguay, Guatemala and Belize
during during summer? Right Like that's you know, I know,
it's a working trip, it's not a vacation. But no,
it just looks like a really unnecessary concession to China.
It really looks like giving them. And here's the thing,
(16:01):
what let you know by doing this, what lesson do
you think the Chinese take from us? Do you think
that they're going to be more reasonable, more conciliatory, more likely,
or do you think they're going to say, ah, well,
now that the US has allowed us to veto this,
here are these other things the US does that we
don't want them to do. So I think the way
you got to deal with these bullies like this is
to say, no, we're a sovereign country. We make our
(16:23):
own decisions. We will decide who visits our country and
who doesn't. And if you guys don't like it, you
can go pound sand So I'm really bothered by this.
We'll see how this shakes out, but it just feels
like an utterly unnecessary concession to a hostile regime that
Trump always seems to be convinced. Keeps telling us how
well he gets along with Jijinping, and I don't think
he understands how that's not particularly reassuring and not what
(16:45):
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All right, Jim, on to the Crazy Martini today, and
we had a lot of options for the career today,
but this one's especially weird. It takes us to the
great state of Maine, which is the place you do
want a vacation this time of year. By the way,
the weather's fantastic up there. But illegal immigration is not
usually the issue you think of in connection with Maine.
But they've got a strange case up there of an
(18:17):
illegal immigrant who got caught trying to buy a gun.
He was denied, but he was also working as a
police officer in a town up there in Maine, And
then the questions came pouring in, well why did you
hire an illegal And it turns out that he'd overstayed
his visa but was still hired by the force, and
the police department here says no, no, no, no. We checked
with the Department of Homeland Security. They said he was
(18:40):
good here till twenty thirty, which is now raising questions
about the accuracy of everify, which needs to be cleared
up because everify is going to be a huge part
of ever getting illegal immigration under control if employers are
inclined or required to use it.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, Greg, my first thought was the next time a
police officer asked me for any proof of citizenship, respond
you first, so yeah, so this is the news was
broken by Fox News. Bill belugan Ice put out a
press release on this. This is up at the Old
Orchard Beach Police Department in Maine. A gentleman by the
(19:14):
name of John Luke Evans, who is the citizen of Jamaica,
entered the United States September fourth, twenty twenty three. You'll
recall it nearly two years ago. He was scheduled to
depart on a flight October first, so a little bit
more than a week never get on the flight. At
that point, he had overstayed his legal visa and was
thus an illegal immigrant. At some point he then, you know,
(19:35):
applied for a job with this police department and got hired.
And by the way, it's worth knowing if you are
in the country illegally, No, you are not allowed to
carry a firearm. You are not allowed to own a firearm.
You are not allowed to use a firearm. Right, so
you know, Ice issue arrest. The guy issues this blistering statement,
(19:56):
ripping into the police department, saying, you know, it would
be comical if it wasn't so trag They've hired an
illegal alien and lawfully issue to have a firearm while
on duty, you know, when you're supposed to be enforcing
immigration laws, et cetera, et cetera. Now the police department,
as you know it says no, no, no, we checked with Everify.
Everything checks out. Now. I went, as I was doing
writing Today's Morning Jolt about this about a million times.
(20:17):
National Review has said we need universal e Verify. It's
almost a common rallying cry for all kinds of folks
on the right, and I'm not going to disagree with that.
The problem is Everify is not a perfect system, and
it's not just the routine fat finger punching in the
wrong data or something like that. What Everify I can
do is you take the person's name, date of birth,
(20:39):
solid security check and it runs it against government databases
to say, aha, do these exist in existing US databases?
Quite Everified ninety percent of the time everything checks out
just fine. That, by the way, either that's great or
that's a sign that it can't detect fraud. Like that's
the other thing. It can't check that what the name,
date of birth, and social Security number provided by the
(21:00):
job applicant actually belongs to the applicant. There was this
big raid out in Nebraska detained seventy six workers who
are in the country illegally, and the employers like, well, look,
I checked with everify. And the thing is that if
you've got a stolen credit card, if you've got a
stolen SO Security number, identity theft, the system can't detect that.
So it's one thing that's a farmer, a meat packer
(21:23):
gets fooled by, you know, stolen SO security numbers and
a fake driver's license. That's bad, you know. But on
the other hand, we don't expect those businesses to be
experts in verifying false documents. When you're a police department,
I think we can have our standards a little bit
higher because, like what a cops do. They pull somebody over,
sub meeting license and registration, they're checking out documents. Let's
(21:45):
say I imagine somewhere up in Maine they've got some bar.
Maybe they're checking underage drinkers. You got to look at
a driver's license see if it's the real thing or
whether it's a fake. Real embarrassment to this police department. Again,
they're going to say, hey, we checked. By the way,
under federal law, it is illegal to knowingly hire an
illegal immigrant to do your work, to do a job.
If you're unknowingly, then you're off the hook. So you know,
(22:07):
the police department's going to say, hey, we thought it
was legal the whole time. What's you know? And it's
my suspicion is it'll be a case of this person
had committed identifies fraud, so you use fraudulent documents to
get through the verified system, and that's how it's all
turned out monkey door. By the way, also in today's joult,
I lay this out DACA recipients. There are probably, you know,
something in the neighborhood of a little more than a
(22:30):
half million individuals currently have DACA status. This is the
deferred action for childhood arrivals. You come here as a
little kid or as a baby, your parents enter the
country illegally. You were not born in the United States,
but you basically have no ties to your the country
of your parents' citizenship and technically your citizenship. A whole
bunch of states have now made it legal for people
(22:51):
who have DACA protection to become police officers. Now, the
weird thing is is that DACA literally means just deferred action.
You are not a citizen and you are in this
weird limbo in which you are not in the country illegally,
but the federal government also says you are not in
the country legally, meaning you're you know, you're not on
a path citizenship or anything like that, which but under
federal law you cannot own a firearm. Now, there are
(23:13):
some people who have become and I did a links
to various stories in this there are people who become
cops who do not carry a firearm under the dock
up program. Very often they're kind of working as translators
for other police officers and stuff that's fine, or bailiffs
in a courtroom, or situations in which they are not
required to have a firearm. Nonetheless, I think it's I
think it's unusual. I think you can deeply sympathize with
(23:35):
the stories of the individuals. They may well be good
people who would make good cops. It is a little strange,
by the way, like so that there's one article about
one out in California who's working for the UC Davis
Police Department. Greg The gentleman's name is Ernesto. I'm going
to assume it's pronounced Morone. It is spelled ron. I
(23:57):
do not want to make fun of this gentleman. You know,
we all have difficult well you know you and I
know I think about having surtinnames that are hard spell.
His is easy to spell. I imagine the pronunciation is
not helpful and so but yes, there is officer morone
or perhaps more wrong. But anyway, like you know, I
was ready to be you know, just spitting a hot
fire about this, saying that there's so little care about
(24:19):
enforcement of immigration laws that this small town police department
just decided to hire a newly limigrant. You know, if
they checked on Everify, they have at least some excuse.
But that, says, does point to the Everify system not
being reliable, and thus we need a better way to
determine when someone shows up for a job, are they
eligible to do the work, are they eligible to be
in the country or not. And really, you know, a
(24:41):
fascinating and kind of frustrating story up out of mein today.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Greg, Yeah, no question about it. And it's just frustrating
that the tools that you think are in place are
not necessarily up to the job in every case. So
you need people who can spot fake IDs, even if
they cost these people a fortune. That's John McClain or
Deputy Chief Dwayne Robinson once pointed out, you could be
a bartender.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Thank you for finding the references that I could not
find to take great Also, ceramics A ceramic guns, all
ceramic guns. Just like your mom's kitchen wear, they're all ceramic.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
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Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
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so many wild things to talk about today on the
Tuesday edition of The Three Martini Lunch. We're very glad
you're here. We'll be talking about the illegal who was
caught while working as a police officer, nonetheless but still
(00:25):
trying to illegally obtain a firearm. That we'll definitely get
to that. We also have some good Trump bad Trump today.
His running out of patience with Vladimir Putin is certainly good,
but his treatment of the President of Taiwan a little
bit of a head scratcher. I think I know why
it's happening, but it's still not I don't think the
right move. Before we get going in here, Jim, we
(00:46):
talked at the end of last week, of course, about
all the phenomenal figures who were household names in the eighties,
hul Cogan, Ozzy Osbourne, Malcolm Jamrow Warner, and at the
time I knew this was coming, but it still stings.
Last night we found out that Ryan's aberg the Great
Second Basement for the Cubs my favorite baseball player. One
of the reasons I cheered for the Cubs. That and
(01:07):
WGN and Harry Carey getting increasingly uninhibited as the game
went on, and just summer afternoons Cubs home games of
course during the day at that time, and just absolutely
delightful to watch that all summer long. Again, another reminder
that the eighties was a long time ago. Even though
Sandberg just sixty five years old that seems awfully young
(01:27):
to us now, had battled prostate cancer, seemed to be
in the clear, and there's a few months later it
was not only back but metastatic prostate cancer, and he
again died ishedate at the age of sixty five. Metastatic
prostate cancer, of course, the same thing former President Joe
Biden dealing with at a much older age. So, Jim,
the days keep going, and sometimes it's haired it does.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And you mentioned how you fell in love with the Cubs,
I just know them by saying hi, everybody, you know,
I just know that would bring a smile to your face,
because everybody you hear that, you think of Harry Carey,
you think of his crazy eyeglasses, and just the joy
of that. I think it was the Athletic at a
headline that put it, well, this says, look, you think
Chicago sports today, people think of Michael Jordan, Mike Ditka, Sweetness,
(02:11):
Walter Payton. Clearly the eighty five Bears were this, you know,
epic conquering heroes of the NFL of that era. But
before then Chicago's sports was dominated by the Cubs and
Ryan Sandberg, and obviously not the Cubs with the tradition
of winning. So when you could really be known for
excellence on a team that is I think it was
George Will who said any team could have a bad
(02:32):
century or so. You know, the Jets are like fifteen
years into that. You know, yes, it is kind of
heartbreaking to lose the heroes of our youth, and I
hope they feel very appreciated in the time that they
were here.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Ten All Star appearances, nine Gold Gloves, seven Silver Sluggers,
and at one point the all time leader in home
runs for second basemen and gosh, he just went long,
long stretches without ever committing an er, and at second
base in the middle of the play at a time
when people could raise their feet up and spiky in
the knees while they were sliding into second trying to
break up the double play. That's saying quite a lot,
(03:08):
but also just a fantastic guy with the fans, absolutely
beloved figure. And again just some more tough news. But
let's get onto our good news. And President Trump might
be overseas, might be playing a decent amount of golf,
but he's definitely making headlines. Yesterday we talked about the
deal with the EU and kind of this parade of
people that are coming up to Turnbury, Scotland to meet
(03:28):
with him. From the EU commissioned President Ursula Vanderlion to
British Prime Minister Cure Starmer yesterday. I think it was
during the visit with Starmer. In fact, the President was
asked about Vladimir Putin and Russia and Ukraine. And Trump
has been made it very clear over the past several
weeks that he's running out of patients with Putin, and
he got a little more specific with what he means
(03:49):
by that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm gonna make a new deadline of about ten, ten
or twelve days from today. There's no reason in waiting,
there's no reason they're waiting. It's fifty days. I want
to be generous, but we just don't see any progress being.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Made, and so, Jim, I think we've talked about this before,
but basically Trump is a deal maker. Trump's a negotiator,
and what he expects is when people say things that
they'll pretty much follow through on them, which Vladimir Putin
has not done at all. He's feigned interest in coming
to a resolution here, but every time he does, you know,
(04:27):
the hostilities ramp up. If anything, they at least certainly
stay at the same intensity. And Trump is tired of
play in this game. Now what he has in mind
in terms of the consequences. Obviously, if nothing happens in
the next week to week and a half two weeks here,
that'll be the big tell Greg.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know, listeners know I've been critical of the president
quite a bit, and probably the first couple months the administration,
no policy decision was driving me battier than this treatment
of Vladimir Putin as a serious partner for peace, for
taking a for being strung along endlessly in these for
sending wit cough. It was just, you know, all terrible.
(05:03):
The dressing down of Zelensky in the Oval office, and
a lot of that has changed. It was a you know,
there were interesting reports that Trump had asked his advisors,
has Putin changed since the last time I spoke to
him when in the first term. And there's probably there
are people who are Russia experts who say, yeah, you know,
a lot of time in isolation during COVID may well
(05:24):
have changed the way pot and sees the world and
the way he acts and makes decisions. There are whole
bunch people who figured Putin was never gonna invade because
it was seen as irrational. I was seen as too
big a risk for to a little reward. Putin chose
to invade back in twenty twenty two. Trump reportedly was
shocked by Russian forces attacking civilians, bombing apartment buildings, killing children,
bombing a maternity hospital, things like that. And so, you know,
(05:47):
some of us who've been covering the war since the
beginning might say, yes, this has been going on since
February twenty point two. This is this is not something new,
mister president. But the president's patience is not eternal, and
the president did not let himself to endlessly be run along.
When Trump announced fifty days like again, I was glad
to see that, putting any limit on it. But there
are a lot of people who said, well, if you've
seen no progress up until now, why are you giving
(06:10):
putin another fifty days before you impose some sort of consequences.
You know, the Russians will simply interpret that as Okay,
we have fifty days to do whatever we want, and
then we have to act like we're going to we're
interested in a peace deal again. And if the war
does get kind of if the US somehow manages us
to shove both sides towards a ceasefire, well then Russia
wants to gain as much territory as possible before then,
(06:31):
So attend to twelve day deadline is better. I think
if you can probably ask the question of like, if
you've seen no progress, why do you need another ten
to twelve days? But you know what you know, I
will i will not look a gift horse in the mouth.
I'm just very pleased to see this president. You mentioned
what options there are. It's to the surprise of some people.
I am not a fan of the Lindsay Graham bill
that's currently in the Senate now. Basically, it allows the
(06:52):
president to impose up to five hundred percent tariffs on
any country that is purchasing Russian oil. All right's rush
Russian energy. The Russian energy supplies in any ways, shape
or form. Now, one complication among them is that one
of the countries that is buying Russian energy is the
United States of America. We purchase plutonium for them from
(07:12):
them for our nuclear plants. These were deals that were
negotiated before the invasion, and they are basically legally binding
that even if we were to turn away that they've
already been paid for, and the US could turn away
the plutonium. But like, they're still getting their money one
way or the other. But nonetheless, it is still a
little bit of an embarrassment that we staunchly opposing Russia
(07:33):
are actually still buying products from them. A lot of
European countries are buying Russian energy products. Japan is purchasing
Russian energy products, Brazil, South Korea. So the question is
do we want to impose up to five hundred percent
tariffs on a whole bunch of our trading partners over this.
Now I can understand the argument maybe having this as
a threat would discourage these other countries from purchasing Russian
(07:55):
energy projects. I guess I'm willing to hear the arguments
on that. But this seems like Lindsay Graham wanted to
take one of Trump's favorite things, which is tariffs, and
tie that to a way of punishing not just Russia
but anybody who's supporting their war machine by purchasing their
energy products. Look, we have sanctioned them up the wazoo.
We have done a lot of stuff. Look, has the
(08:17):
Russian economy completely collapsed since the start of the war. No,
but you hear a lot of creeks. There are a
lot of people who study it who say interest rates
are unbelievably high over there, cash reserves are low, spare
parts are low. They're having basically like the strain on
the system is quite considerable. So I'm curious to see
what the administration wants to do in terms of punishing Russia.
But I look, this is a sea change in the
(08:38):
President's attitude from a couple of months ago, and I
am just thrilled for it. At a boy, mister President,
keep going, And I think this is greatly enhances the
chances of not just an end to the war, not
just peace, but a just piece or a more a
end to the war that will preserve as much territorial
integrity on the part of the Ukrainians as possible, and
leave the Russian war machine as defenged as possible.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, and we'll see what other the tools he has
in his arsenal. There's obviously, I think some sanctions that
we haven't already applied. Don't know what else he could
potentially do diplomatically. It just makes me cringe every time
when I find out that we're reliably dependent on somebody
like Russia or China for something we have to have,
like plutonium in this case, or China makes a ton
(09:23):
of our medicines, or.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Rare earth metals, yeah, the space program.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know, our own ammunition.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah.
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Jim onto our bad Martini now. And of course, the
tensions along the Taiwan Straits have been an issue that
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simmer from time to time. There always seems to be
something else that's bigger than that on the front page
of the paper. But this is certainly one of the
objectives of the Communist Chinese Party is to bring back
Taiwan fully under communist Chinese control. The US, of course,
has defended Taiwan for the most part, to promise to
defend Taiwana. That was very confusing during the Biden administration
(11:53):
because Biden would say, you know, absolutely, we're going to
defend them, and then his team would be, oh, no,
nothing's changed.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Nothing's the President meant to say is that we have
a one China policy and we just won't say which
one is the one China we recognize, which always struck
me as a crazy policy.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
But that's absolutely absolutely that policy started during the Carter administration.
It made no sense in the nineteen seventies and it
still makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You could see the peanut farmer's fingerprints all over it.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yes, So anyway, the president of Taiwan right now is
a guy that we wanted to win the last election.
His name is ly Ching Tay, and he was scheduling
a trip to Latin America but wanted to stop in
New York City along the way. But the US government
has denied that stop in New York City, so the
whole trip has had to have been canceled now. And
(12:42):
Jim the Okham's razor argument here is that Trump knows
that he's got this August first deadline with the Chinese
still don't have the final details worked out on this
Rework trade agreement, so doesn't want to irk Beijing here
in these final days, and that's probably why that happened.
But even if that is the case, this is a
pretty small as, at least in my mind, allowing the
president lie to come to the United States just for
(13:05):
a brief time on his way on his trip.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It stinks, and you know, the president had been on
this hot streak from my perspective, taking out the Iranian
nuclear program. By the way, Ignatius's column in the Post says,
it's been set back at least a year and with
considerable likelihood of a you know, further delays and problems
and serious challenges they would have to developing any you know,
(13:28):
doing anything further in secret, strengthening NATO, getting every NATO
par except Spain to agree to spend five percent of
GDP on defense, and then you know, sending aid to
NATO that NATO will turn around and then give to Ukraine.
That's great. Like you know what if you talked to
earlier the first Martini, Trump had been on such a
good run, and now you knew it was going to
(13:48):
have to come to an end over something. I'm not shocked.
You know, Trump in the past has you know, when
asked about defending Taiwan immediately pivoted to complaining about them
on trade issues, which does not indicate a burgeoning desire
to defend Taiwan from a bullying neighbor. But also just
I want to point out, like we're the United States
(14:10):
of America. We decide who gets to visit US, not China.
The Financial Times coverage of the story, it says China
objects to Taiwanese leaders visiting the US, which does not
have official diplomatic relations with Taipei. Now that's a little
bit of a wink and a nod, because we don't
have an embassy over in Taipei. We have the American
Institute in Taipei, and we have a special representative who's
(14:32):
totally not a diplomat, including my friend and colleague, Teres
Shaheen served in this capacity. They're not an ambassador. Wink.
Never mind that when you come back to the United
States you could be called an ambassador. Again. This is
the ridiculousness of having what functions as full diplomatic relations
with the country but not saying it's saying to the
rest of all, it's not diplomatic relations. We don't recognize them.
(14:55):
You put the Taiwanese government in a lineup with other governments,
we cannot pick them out. We don't recognize them. That's
the that's the official ruling there. But it says that,
you know, basically, to China, we shouldn't be allowed to
host them, Well, go pound sand that's not that's not
your call. We decide who, we decide we want to
host them. We decide who goes through our airports. You
don't get a veto over this now. If it later
(15:16):
comes out the Trump administration said, don't do this now,
we got to get through this trade negotiation. Oh, by
the way, we're supposed to have tariffs going on effect
on Taipei too, on Taiwan. But if they said not, now,
let's get through this particular tense group of negotiations and
then we'll be fine. Fine, I could live with that.
That's a different restriction. But basically, you know, it's saying
to you know, the leader of Taiwan, no, you cannot
(15:39):
visit the United States, and therefore you're not allowed to
visit Paraguay, Guatemala and Belize. First of all, greg who
wouldn't want to get away to Paraguay, Guatemala and Belize
during during summer? Right Like that's you know, I know,
it's a working trip, it's not a vacation. But no,
it just looks like a really unnecessary concession to China.
It really looks like giving them. And here's the thing,
(16:01):
what let you know by doing this, what lesson do
you think the Chinese take from us? Do you think
that they're going to be more reasonable, more conciliatory, more likely,
or do you think they're going to say, ah, well,
now that the US has allowed us to veto this,
here are these other things the US does that we
don't want them to do. So I think the way
you got to deal with these bullies like this is
to say, no, we're a sovereign country. We make our
(16:23):
own decisions. We will decide who visits our country and
who doesn't. And if you guys don't like it, you
can go pound sand So I'm really bothered by this.
We'll see how this shakes out, but it just feels
like an utterly unnecessary concession to a hostile regime that
Trump always seems to be convinced. Keeps telling us how
well he gets along with Jijinping, and I don't think
he understands how that's not particularly reassuring and not what
(16:45):
we want to hear.
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All right, Jim, on to the Crazy Martini today, and
we had a lot of options for the career today,
but this one's especially weird. It takes us to the
great state of Maine, which is the place you do
want a vacation this time of year. By the way,
the weather's fantastic up there. But illegal immigration is not
usually the issue you think of in connection with Maine.
But they've got a strange case up there of an
(18:17):
illegal immigrant who got caught trying to buy a gun.
He was denied, but he was also working as a
police officer in a town up there in Maine, And
then the questions came pouring in, well why did you
hire an illegal And it turns out that he'd overstayed
his visa but was still hired by the force, and
the police department here says no, no, no, no. We checked
with the Department of Homeland Security. They said he was
(18:40):
good here till twenty thirty, which is now raising questions
about the accuracy of everify, which needs to be cleared
up because everify is going to be a huge part
of ever getting illegal immigration under control if employers are
inclined or required to use it.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, Greg, my first thought was the next time a
police officer asked me for any proof of citizenship, respond
you first, so yeah, so this is the news was
broken by Fox News. Bill belugan Ice put out a
press release on this. This is up at the Old
Orchard Beach Police Department in Maine. A gentleman by the
(19:14):
name of John Luke Evans, who is the citizen of Jamaica,
entered the United States September fourth, twenty twenty three. You'll
recall it nearly two years ago. He was scheduled to
depart on a flight October first, so a little bit
more than a week never get on the flight. At
that point, he had overstayed his legal visa and was
thus an illegal immigrant. At some point he then, you know,
(19:35):
applied for a job with this police department and got hired.
And by the way, it's worth knowing if you are
in the country illegally, No, you are not allowed to
carry a firearm. You are not allowed to own a firearm.
You are not allowed to use a firearm. Right, so
you know, Ice issue arrest. The guy issues this blistering statement,
(19:56):
ripping into the police department, saying, you know, it would
be comical if it wasn't so trag They've hired an
illegal alien and lawfully issue to have a firearm while
on duty, you know, when you're supposed to be enforcing
immigration laws, et cetera, et cetera. Now the police department,
as you know it says no, no, no, we checked with Everify.
Everything checks out. Now. I went, as I was doing
writing Today's Morning Jolt about this about a million times.
(20:17):
National Review has said we need universal e Verify. It's
almost a common rallying cry for all kinds of folks
on the right, and I'm not going to disagree with that.
The problem is Everify is not a perfect system, and
it's not just the routine fat finger punching in the
wrong data or something like that. What Everify I can
do is you take the person's name, date of birth,
(20:39):
solid security check and it runs it against government databases
to say, aha, do these exist in existing US databases?
Quite Everified ninety percent of the time everything checks out
just fine. That, by the way, either that's great or
that's a sign that it can't detect fraud. Like that's
the other thing. It can't check that what the name,
date of birth, and social Security number provided by the
(21:00):
job applicant actually belongs to the applicant. There was this
big raid out in Nebraska detained seventy six workers who
are in the country illegally, and the employers like, well, look,
I checked with everify. And the thing is that if
you've got a stolen credit card, if you've got a
stolen SO Security number, identity theft, the system can't detect that.
So it's one thing that's a farmer, a meat packer
(21:23):
gets fooled by, you know, stolen SO security numbers and
a fake driver's license. That's bad, you know. But on
the other hand, we don't expect those businesses to be
experts in verifying false documents. When you're a police department,
I think we can have our standards a little bit
higher because, like what a cops do. They pull somebody over,
sub meeting license and registration, they're checking out documents. Let's
(21:45):
say I imagine somewhere up in Maine they've got some bar.
Maybe they're checking underage drinkers. You got to look at
a driver's license see if it's the real thing or
whether it's a fake. Real embarrassment to this police department. Again,
they're going to say, hey, we checked. By the way,
under federal law, it is illegal to knowingly hire an
illegal immigrant to do your work, to do a job.
If you're unknowingly, then you're off the hook. So you know,
(22:07):
the police department's going to say, hey, we thought it
was legal the whole time. What's you know? And it's
my suspicion is it'll be a case of this person
had committed identifies fraud, so you use fraudulent documents to
get through the verified system, and that's how it's all
turned out monkey door. By the way, also in today's joult,
I lay this out DACA recipients. There are probably, you know,
something in the neighborhood of a little more than a
(22:30):
half million individuals currently have DACA status. This is the
deferred action for childhood arrivals. You come here as a
little kid or as a baby, your parents enter the
country illegally. You were not born in the United States,
but you basically have no ties to your the country
of your parents' citizenship and technically your citizenship. A whole
bunch of states have now made it legal for people
(22:51):
who have DACA protection to become police officers. Now, the
weird thing is is that DACA literally means just deferred action.
You are not a citizen and you are in this
weird limbo in which you are not in the country illegally,
but the federal government also says you are not in
the country legally, meaning you're you know, you're not on
a path citizenship or anything like that, which but under
federal law you cannot own a firearm. Now, there are
(23:13):
some people who have become and I did a links
to various stories in this there are people who become
cops who do not carry a firearm under the dock
up program. Very often they're kind of working as translators
for other police officers and stuff that's fine, or bailiffs
in a courtroom, or situations in which they are not
required to have a firearm. Nonetheless, I think it's I
think it's unusual. I think you can deeply sympathize with
(23:35):
the stories of the individuals. They may well be good
people who would make good cops. It is a little strange,
by the way, like so that there's one article about
one out in California who's working for the UC Davis
Police Department. Greg The gentleman's name is Ernesto. I'm going
to assume it's pronounced Morone. It is spelled ron. I
(23:57):
do not want to make fun of this gentleman. You know,
we all have difficult well you know you and I
know I think about having surtinnames that are hard spell.
His is easy to spell. I imagine the pronunciation is
not helpful and so but yes, there is officer morone
or perhaps more wrong. But anyway, like you know, I
was ready to be you know, just spitting a hot
fire about this, saying that there's so little care about
(24:19):
enforcement of immigration laws that this small town police department
just decided to hire a newly limigrant. You know, if
they checked on Everify, they have at least some excuse.
But that, says, does point to the Everify system not
being reliable, and thus we need a better way to
determine when someone shows up for a job, are they
eligible to do the work, are they eligible to be
in the country or not. And really, you know, a
(24:41):
fascinating and kind of frustrating story up out of mein today.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Greg, Yeah, no question about it. And it's just frustrating
that the tools that you think are in place are
not necessarily up to the job in every case. So
you need people who can spot fake IDs, even if
they cost these people a fortune. That's John McClain or
Deputy Chief Dwayne Robinson once pointed out, you could be
a bartender.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Thank you for finding the references that I could not
find to take great Also, ceramics A ceramic guns, all
ceramic guns. Just like your mom's kitchen wear, they're all ceramic.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Jim Garretty, National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of Radio America.
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