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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
and Jim Garritty of National Review.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Three Martini's coming up.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
So glad you're with us for the Tuesday edition of
the Three Martini Lunch. If you're with us yesterday, you
know that Jim Garerty is going to be away for
a while and here in his place today. Happy to
welcome in Craig COLLINSA. How you doing, Craig.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Nice, thrilled to be on this side of it, Greg,
thrilled to be here with you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Exactly for longtime listeners, faithful listeners, you know that Craig
is subbed for me on the Three Martini Lunch in
the past. Today he gets to try Jim's side of
the ledger and I'm tail side. You've also heard Craig
fill in for Great Radio America hosts like Dana Lash
and Chad Benson and others, and I believe you and
Chat are now the only ones to do both roles
(00:52):
on this podcast. So congratulations, you're an elite company.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I actually am trying to mirror Chad's career anything I
can you to eventually be Chad Benson is what I
want to be.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So that's awesome, fantastic. Well, we got so much to
talk about today. We're going to have a lot to
say about young people, young adults, and there was obviously
a big shift in the electorate last year, particularly among
young men shifting right. But a couple issues we're going
to talk about today, including where young people get their
news from at least nearly half of them on a
regular basis. We'll also talk about the young lefties who
(01:24):
are insistent that they can actually make communism work this time.
That is a growing, growing belief on the young left
and hopefully we can nip it in the bud, but
it might be too late until they have to learn
the hard way. But we start with today's meeting down
in Quantico, Virginia, where Secretary of War now not Secretary Defense.
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The Secretary of War Pete Hegsath summoned all the military
top brass. President Trump addressed them as well, but Hegsath,
I think is the one who actually made the news today.
He said a number of things that he's said before,
including you know, the woke aras over the dudes with addresses,
the worship of climate change, all that's done. He also
said we need to have everybody in shape. We're going
(02:06):
to have tougher basic training. And oh, by the way,
and he said this, you fat generals and admirals walking
the halls of the Pentagon completely unacceptable. I'm gonna make
you guys do PT test too, So you guys need
to be in shape. I'm sure that will go over
swimmingly there. But then there's a couple of things he's
which he's mentioned before, but he says are actually going
to be implemented now. And I think this is this
is good for our military because we had seen sliding
(02:28):
standards and so he says, now there's going to be
one standard and if you make it great, If you can't,
well that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
This And I want to be very clear about this.
This is not about preventing women from serving. Are We
very much value the impact of female troops. Our female
officers and n CEOs are the absolute best in the world.
But when it comes to any job that requires physical
power to perform in combat, those physical standards must be
(02:56):
high and gender neutral. If women can make it excellent,
If not, it is what it is. If that means
no women qualify for some combat jobs.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So be it.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
That is not the intent, but it could be the result,
so be it. It will also that we mean that
weak men won't qualify because we're not playing games.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
This is combat, this is life or death. And then
he also said the era is over for tying the
hands of our warriors through stupid rules of engagement.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We
untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt,
and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically
correct and overbearing rules of engagement. Just common sense, maximum lethality,
and authority for war fighters. That's all I ever wanted
as a platoon leader.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So Craig you got. He got some lefties on Twitter going,
this is what stops war crimes. He's basically advocating for
war crimes. But if you talk to guys who are
in Iraq or Afghanistan or Vietnam, they'll say, you know,
we weren't allowed to shoot at the enemy unless they
shot at us. Just things that put our guys at
risk and basically make us less likely to complete the
task at hand. And so if their common sense reals
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of engagement, change is coming and elite standards for everyone
across the board. I think that's good for a military.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, I think it has to be good for a
military first and foremost. I think it's interesting that he's
now the Secretary of War because he sounds like it right.
The rhetoric, the difference in how you communicate it definitely
sounds more than a Secretary of Defense. This guy is
focused on. Haig Seth is focused on how in what
we do when we're in combat to make our troops safer,
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to make ourselves more successful, to make things easier. So
that's easy. The women's stuff is the interesting thing to
me because Haig Seth for a while now has been
assumed to be a sexist simply because he said the
thing out loud that a lot of people are uncomfortable
saying the thing that say comedians Bill Burr are very
good at saying when they joke about how certain sports
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are not as popular if women play them as men,
because capabilities are different. So I think it's interesting to
finally hear that set out loud and to see the
badasses that actually pass it. If I want to be
somewhat lefty in my response to this, which I never
want to be, by the way, Greg, but I'll try
really quickly. The best response to their complaint is just
watch how awesome the women are who can fulfill this requirement,
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who can do the same things that the guys need
to do in order to be part of the military,
and who can engage in those combat roles, because they'll
be as effective as them as anyone else. Let's watch
for that. If there aren't any, whoopsie, but if there
are some, let's go ahead and praise them.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well. I mean, there's been so many different political things
forced on the military over the years. First of all,
after the Cold War, the Clinton's come in and you know,
the fundingest way down and the military shrinks. Then of
course nine to eleven hits, Oh, we probably shouldn't have
done that, and we got to build it back up.
And then the rules of engagement in Iraq and Afghanistan
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creep in, and then all of a sudden DEI creeps in,
and all of a sudden, the military looks a lot
different than it did kind of in the early nineties,
right at the end of the Cold War. And that's
what head SETH is essentially trying to move back to,
especially when it comes to the qualification tests for different
combat roles.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, and the most interesting thing about engaging in this
conversation with civilians and not with people who've actually done
this is that whole rules of engagement conversation, Because if
you talk to anybody that's served in Afghanistan or Iraq,
they will tell you that their lives were constantly in
danger for incredibly stupid reasons. That they had to wait
to be fired on instead of firing on an enemy
if they saw an enemy coming toward them. And that's
(06:28):
this oversimplified version of one, but there were a lot
of things like that where the military would say these
men and women that our lives were being risked because
of some stupid set of rules that we've implemented that
we need to do away with. If you're not a
person who understands that, or someone who's even had a
conversation with anyone who's experienced it, I think this is
one of those moments where you can shut up. And
(06:49):
I hate to say that. I almost never say that,
but I feel that way about the people who go
and complain with their keyboard warrioring who have no concept
of what it means and will simply say, well, now
we're breaking, you know, rules of war as opposed to
laws of war as opposed to actually just keeping people safer.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
As any of our listeners know. One of the other
things I do is veteran oral history interviews, and you
talk to these guys from Iraq and Afghanistan, but even
even Vietnam going close to sixty years ago now, and
you get to that topic of rules of engagement, and
you can see the emotion very quickly come to the
surface because of what they had to go through, what
they barely survived, and many times with their friends did
(07:28):
not because the politicians decided they didn't want to deal
with the fallout and the possible controversy instead of putting
the troops in the best possible position. Yeah, so hopefully
this is implemented smoothly and effectively and the military stronger.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
We'll see about that part, but who knows.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's not easy. No changes, big changes. So most of
those guys, if they're a little over weight, probably we're
still thinking about the conditioning drill that they're going to
have to go through and panicking a little bit. But
he did say, if you don't like where we're going,
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on to our bad Martini now. And even though Jim's
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not here today, we still have him with us in
spirit and in print, because just yesterday before he headed
off on his latest excursion, which you'll learn more about
when he gets back, but he was focusing on young
communists and how that's really becoming the reality on the
young left these day. The headline is America's young communists
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really believe true communism has never been tried. He highlights
a Wall Street Journal story reporting on young socialists who
are fueling the Democratic Party's lurch to the left in
recent years. They trace it all back to the Great Recession.
I mean, it's just just funny if it weren't so
serious to look at this story, he says. On a
recent evening, this is the journal. Now, fifteen comrades from
(10:16):
the Northwest Philadelphia cell of the Revolutionary Communists of America
gathered for their weekly meeting. The mostly twenty and thirty
somethings had to shew the mau caps and the Sai
Guavara T shirts of previous generations. Soon, though, terms like
ruling class, parasitic, bourgeoisie, and dialectic were bandied about the
room as they settled into an earnest discussion of the assigned,
(10:37):
reading an article entitled Morality and the Class Struggle, and
references to the two thousand and eight crisis were also plentiful.
And so they basically see the system as stacked against them,
and so that's the capitalist system that didn't work in
that situation, and they've had a hard time, you know,
succeeding ever since then. Craig, it's hard to see exactly
(10:59):
how that from one to the other. You can be
upset with you know, the subprime lending crisis and the
government ignoring that back there only two thousands. But you know,
they still say hadn't worked, the communism hadn't worked anywhere
in the world yet because it hasn't been attempted, at
least not yet. I think it's been attempted a lot
of times. And usually what you get a stacks of
(11:20):
dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, you get a lot of horrible things. You get
stifled speech, you get, you know, a bunch of people
in positions of power having a whole bunch of the money.
You know, it's funny about this to me, and it's
weird to try to make some of this funny, but
I can't help it. It's who I am. The funniest
thing about this is it feels like the people who
read the headline and then none of the article just
played out in a different way. Because if these young
people think, oh, communism sounds great, because this is fair
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or that is fair, they're reading the headline the version
where they think the thing will occur that they hope
will occur. They're not thinking about all the steps that
happen after the fact that make it a horrible, terrible, decision,
as we know time and again, and as we've seen
time and again, and as people from all different other
countries throughout the world would tell them if they cared
to ask. So I really think this is more an
(12:05):
indictment of the arrogance of young people, or the arrogance
of people who assume they know a lot when they
know very little, as opposed to anything else here. But
I do also think it's interesting that people would advocate
for some of what we're seeing in places like New
York City or anywhere else, because it is handing power
to individuals who may be craving it for exactly the
(12:25):
reasons that terrify the rest of us. It's exactly the
thing they also claim about Trump or anyone else when
they say that this person is abusing this in this way,
they'll essentially enable the thing that they claim to most fear.
So it's terrifying, but at the same time to me
amusing because I like watching stupid people say stupid things.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
These are the same people who supported hamas over right Israel.
That eighteen to twenty nine demographic and even the thirty
to mid forties was pretty dicey on some of those numbers.
Hopefully they've improved since then, but I don't think they've
improved a ton Craig at this point, the Cold War
officially ended with the fall of the Stuvie Union in
nineteen ninety one, the Berlin Wall came down nineteen eighty nine,
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and I just feel like we've done a horrible job
of teaching younger people what was happening during the Cold War,
why communism was bad, the USSR, the genocide going on
in Cambodi, and what was happening with the Vietnam War,
the Purge in China where tens of millions were killed,
Joseph Stalin, on and on and on, Castro and shag
(13:28):
Guavara Shaguavarime somehow becomes a hero even though he spent
most of his time annihilating people. So on the college campus,
I kind of get it. It's been lefty since the
nineteen sixties, and for the most part, you're going to
get that. But even earlier than that, high school and
before that, we had a duty to educate young people
about why winning the Cold War was essential, why the
(13:49):
Soviet model was a disaster, And I feel like we've
dropped the ball immensely.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
No, I think we definitely have. You know, what's interesting
something I keep thinking about as we're talking about this
is Charlie Kirk, the late great Charlie Kirk, because he
would go to college campuses and he would say the
thing you said to shift the opinion of some people
on the left, which was that, yeah, it's difficult to
buy a house right now. Yes, this is a challenge.
That's a challenge if you're a younger person looking for
a good job, you're over educated and underqualified for the
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positions you most want. When all of those you know, problems,
all of those issues hit you at the same time,
you might assume it'd be great if a big, nice
government just gave you free stuff. You might think that
that would work out better for you, and it doesn't,
and it's horrible. And as you said, it's really an
issue of not educating people, because again I would watch
those interviews or those you know, arguments on college campuses
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with Charlie Kirk and young people, and they would expose
themselves for how little they actually know of history or
how little they care. The other shocking thing is when
you argue with some people, they seem to not care
that you're proving them wrong. They put their fingers in
their ears and ignore because how dare you say stuff
that has facts that back up the fact that what
I'm saying isn't true and what I'm saying is bad idea,
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I want to try it. Let's go ahead and do
it and see how bad it goes. And it would
go horrible exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And the media, of course loves the left, so they're
going along with it. Look at how they've shifted on
Mamdani in New York City. The only reason they were
skeptical at first was because they thought his radicalism might
cost him the election. Now that he seems to be
in position to win, more and more Democrats are coming
on board. If he gets elected, I'm sure the media
is going to love him until it becomes absolutely impossible
(15:27):
to ignore the evidence. So who knows how quickly that'll be,
But I don't think it'll be that long. But just
the fawning over and over again, despite obvious examples and
history is infuriating.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You know what, It also is real quick before I know,
we got to move on to the last one. I
do think what's interesting about a lot of this is
how you overplay the oh they just want everything to
work out, okay, They're just sweet and naive a version
of an excuse. I feel like a lot of people
in media would say that behind closed doors, oh, we
were covering it this way because we know they have
good intentions, even if some of the things they're saying
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us toward a terrible place. It's that excusing of behavior
that Pete Hegseeth is not okay with anymore as the
director of War, the Secretary of War. So I think
this is the kind of thing that we do need
to not only educate but also offend some people along
the way by demonstrating that they have no idea what
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Speaker 3 (18:21):
All right, Craig, go on to our final martini. Could
be crazy. I think it's pretty crazy. New numbers from
Pew Research show that twenty percent of US adults overall
now regularly get their news from TikTok, which is up
three percent from twenty twenty, and among the youngest adults
once again, we're in that eighteen to twenty nine group.
Forty three percent now regularly regularly get their news there,
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up from nine percent in twenty twenty, so that is
a massive shift. So just to go through the numbers
here overall again, twenty percent, that eighteen to twenty nine,
forty three percent, thirty to forty nine, twenty five percent.
Then it kind of falls off a cliff. Fifty to
six before is at ten percent, and sixty five plus
is at three percent. They're not going to deal with
that new fangled now buck thing, especially since it's Chinese
(19:07):
spy where anyway, or at least for the immediate future.
We'll see what happens with this deal that's coming up
if it goes through. So, Craig, you and I were
talking about this before we got started today, and social
media can be as valuable to you as you let
it be. So I use Twitter, I guess x now
a lot, and you know it's about who you follow,
both the news sources and the people commenting on it.
(19:28):
You can get a responsible and quick update on the
news events. But if you're just kind of letting the
regular stream come in, especially with TikTok and whatever Chinese
influence is happening there, you get a very skewed idea
of what's happening, whether it's in the Middle East, whether
it's about China itself, whether it's about the current administration,
whatever it is, you've got to be very careful about
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how you curate that news.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
No, absolutely, I think that that's the most important part.
And this is the glass the martini glasses half full
version of discussion about it is absolutely you can get
effective news from places like TikTok and Twitter. You can
you can get good news, reliable news from independent journalists
who want to tell you the truth, who don't want to,
you know, curate the information in some way that harms you.
You can also get a whole load of crap, like
(20:12):
a significant load of terrible, terrible things. So I think
that's the one part that is missing when people discuss this,
is that you could effectively be well informed on the
news of the day by going just to TikTok. But
it would be very difficult. You'd have to curate it
quite well, as you say, Greg, You'd have to put
a lot of effort into it, which we assume most
people who get all of their news from social media
(20:33):
are not doing. They're not doing anything like that. They
follow this one person, they like, and then that person
wields a unique significant role in their life and what
they tell them and what they don't tell them. So
I think it's interesting. I'm not going to bash young
people as much about this as the other stuff and
communism and whatnot, though, because I do think that it
demonstrates how unreliable regular mainstream media has become, how dishonest
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it is, how biased it is, and how most people
no longer want it, even people that agree with it.
I would rather see news in a different place because
they want to make sure the thing they're getting is
something that they actually believe is true. And so it's
more of an indictment of the news industry, in my opinion,
than the young people and where they go. Although don't
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believe everything you see on TikTok, feels like a valuable
thing to say.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, exactly, And you also need to again follow the
actual accounts. If you're into reels on Facebook or TikTok's
basically the same way and you're just mindlessly scrolling up.
It's basically a reinforcement mechanism to whatever you believe, you're
going to get more of whatever you linger on it.
Goaues Oh that's an interesting thought. You're going to get
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like three, five seven more of the exact same thing.
And Charlie Kirk is a perfect example of this, because
after Charlie Kirk passed away and I was getting tons
of those types of videos and they're all very positive,
showing how effective Charlie Kirk was. People who are on
the left don't like Charlie Kirk, they were getting fed
all sorts of in many cases, you know, edited out
of context videos, I would say, but regardless of whether
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what do you think of Charlie Cook, they were getting
very negative ones, and it just reinforces, reinforces. So you've
got to be careful to get out there and follow
sources that you know will give you the best and
most reliable information. And if you find that certain people
out there consistently, don't mute them, unfollow them, block them,
whatever you have to do to make sure you're not getting.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Fooled by it.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Absolutely that part, you know, it's so funny whenever anybody
talks about Google or anything else. Facebook is a great
example of this. That confirmation bias stuff creeps in and
it's the goal of these media companies, these social media
companies to keep you there watching their stuff and you know,
scrolling through and seeing their ads. So yeah, they'll absolutely
feed you what you agree with, because they'll you'll linger
(22:43):
longer than if they feed you what you disagree with.
So just knowing that that mechanism is in place is
very powerful, as Greg points out, and I think that's
an important part of, you know, the a version of
finding a way to use a TikTok use Twitter effectively.
But also, and probably the most important thing is that
if someone lies you once, have it be one striking,
You're out, not three, move on to someoney. There's so
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many other sources that you can choose from and check
out that you don't have to rely on that one
person you like because you know his co host is
a hot chick or whatever it is that they do now.
I don't know how they do it, Greg now, but
you don't have to. You can move on, just like
we have for mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Well, Craig has been great to have you today. Yeah,
Craig is all decked out in his Yankees gear because
the baseball playoffs start today. My Cup hosts the Padres,
his Yankees host the Red Sox. No pressure with that
rivalry being part of the playoffs, so I know you're
excited even though you hate the format.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, I do think that the Bad Martini should have been.
How ridiculous it is that the baseball playoffs have so
many teams in them now. But that's fine. I'll save
that for some other podcasts some other time. Go Yankees,
Go Aaron Judge. Be good in October Aaron Judge, and
all will be forgiven. Just be good one time eron.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
That's all you need.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
That's all you need.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Craig. Great to have you in here for James today.
I appreciate your time. Craig Collins, radio host and podcaster.
He's Subsfordaina Lash Chad Benson, and he's sub for me
here in the Three Martini Lunch. Thanks so much for
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At Radio craig Zy.
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