November 18, 2025 • 28 mins
Join Jim and Greg for the Tuesday 3 Martini Lunch as they react to former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers admitting a disturbing connection to Jeffrey Epstein, one House Democrat rebuking another for blatant election mischief, and several Senate Democrats already weighing White House bids for 2028.
First, they are disgusted as former Clinton administration Treasury Secretary Larry Summers says he is "deeply ashamed" for maintaining a close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein long after Epstein was known for trafficking girls. Summers now plans to withdraw from public life. He reportedly asked Epstein for advice on pursuing a romantic relationship with a woman he was supposedly mentoring. Jim argues that it is important this information is public and that Summers should go away.
Next, they applaud Washington Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez for leading an effort to rebuke fellow Democrat Rep. Jesus "Chuy" Garcia for announcing his retirement on the same day as the filing deadline for his seat in Congress. This leaves Garcia's chief of staff as the only Democrat in the race. Jim notes that the party that claims to be protecting democracy repeatedly shows contempt for it through stunts like this.
Finally, Jim vents about the nine Senate Democrats clearly or potentially positioning themselves for a 2028 presidential run. He says none of them appear likely to be competitive, but that will not stop several of them from jumping into the race anyway.
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First, they are disgusted as former Clinton administration Treasury Secretary Larry Summers says he is "deeply ashamed" for maintaining a close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein long after Epstein was known for trafficking girls. Summers now plans to withdraw from public life. He reportedly asked Epstein for advice on pursuing a romantic relationship with a woman he was supposedly mentoring. Jim argues that it is important this information is public and that Summers should go away.
Next, they applaud Washington Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez for leading an effort to rebuke fellow Democrat Rep. Jesus "Chuy" Garcia for announcing his retirement on the same day as the filing deadline for his seat in Congress. This leaves Garcia's chief of staff as the only Democrat in the race. Jim notes that the party that claims to be protecting democracy repeatedly shows contempt for it through stunts like this.
Finally, Jim vents about the nine Senate Democrats clearly or potentially positioning themselves for a 2028 presidential run. He says none of them appear likely to be competitive, but that will not stop several of them from jumping into the race anyway.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
and Jim Garritty of National Review. Free Martini's coming up.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
So glad you're with us for the Tuesday edition of
The Three Martini Lunch. And Jim, it's a very busy day.
We're going to get a House vote I think today
on releasing the Epstein files. I'm still not sure why
we need a vote now that Trump's in favor of it,
but I guess we're going to go through that process anyway.
It's going to pass, probably by a wide margin. We're
also going to take a closer look at Democrat accusing
(00:37):
Democrat of election malfeasance. Retiring Illinois Democratic congressman decided to
announce he wasn't going to run for reelection on the
filing deadline day, so his chief of staff could be
the only Democratic candidate. So we'll dive into that. And yes,
we're already talking about twenty twenty eight. And as Jim
has written, nearly twenty percent of the Senate Democrats are
(01:01):
somewhat or very interested in running for president in twenty
twenty eight. So Jim, I don't know if we're going
to need the double debate nights like we did in
twenty twenty when we had I don't know what two
dozen candidates or something, but buckle up, it's going to
be pretty full. It seems.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh, I got a lot to say on that one.
But I think the first thing that jumps to mind,
I mean, you look at all of those Senate Democrats
who are at least thinking about it, not ruling it out,
leaving the door open, or in some cases, you know,
very transparently going for it. More competition for our good
friend Irving schmid Lap, who is running for Senate in
Colorado despite the fact that he does not exist. He's
(01:39):
always been a brave crusader for the non existent American community.
You know, non existent Americans face more discrimination than any
other group just because they don't actually exist, and that
just seems, you know, just seems unfair.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So Irving, good luck to you.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
He's running for Senate, but I imagine if he will, whether
he wins or loses. And by the way, every now
and then I do scour the right end totals to
see many of our listeners have written in for Irving
schmid Lap. Schmid Lap twenty twenty eight seems like a
near certainty whether he's a senator or not a senator.
I guess he's going to be not a senator because
he doesn't exist. But I do like this is a
(02:14):
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ends and he ends up becoming a senator. This is massive,
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as mentioned the house I think is supposed to vote
today on the discharge petition to release the Epstein files.
If it's not today, it's going to be very very soon.
But we already have kind of the first casualty, if
you want to put it that way, in terms of
the documents that have already been released, because House Democrats
House Republicans have released some documents Democrats very selectively. Republicans
(04:32):
like here, here's twenty three thousand pages or whatever it is.
Knock yourself out. Meanwhile, Politico reporting, The former Treasury Secretary
Larry Summers, in a statement Monday, said he would be
stepping back from public life and express deep regret for
past messages with the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein
in the wake of new revelations about the extent of
(04:52):
their relationship.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I am deeply ashamed of my actions and recognize the
pain they have caused, he told Politico. I take fuller
responsibility for my misguided decision to continue communicating with mister
Epstein while continuing to fulfill my teaching obligations. I will
be stepping back from public commitments as one part of
my broader effort to rebuild trust and repair relationships with
the people closest to me unquote. Emails revealed that Summers,
(05:17):
who served as Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton and
a top advisor to President Barack Obama, repeatedly sought advice
from Epstein un romantically pursuing a woman he referred to
as his mentee. Epstein, in one of the messages, referred
to himself as the prominent economists quote unquote wingman. So, Jim,
this is obviously not good. Usually if you have a mentee,
(05:40):
this is someone first of all, who's under your authority
and also is probably quite a bit younger than Larry
Summers would be my guest here. And so this is
obviously sleazy behavior. Bad that that happened, good that it's
coming out, and good that he's stepping back. That's exactly
what should happen here.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, So Larry Summers, well, I'm gonna say it's one
of my favorite Democrats, but he was one of the
folks who was publicly saying in the opening months of
the Biden administration, all of the spending you're doing is
going to set off a round of inflation, and almost
the entire rest of the Democratic Party said, no, that's nonsense,
there's nothing to worry about, and of course.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's set off inflation.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
So I found him a useful person to cite to
say this inflationary spasm was useful, and it was predicted
by economists like Larry Summers. With that said, this is
just unbelievably skeevee behavior. And you know, like and I
raised a question in Today's Morning Jolt. First of all,
on June thirtieth, two thousand and eight, Jeffrey Epstein pled
(06:39):
guilty to state charges of solicitation of prostitution and solicitation
of prostitution with a minor. And in that case it
involved a fourteen year old girl, Megan Kelly. For any
you know, notices of people wondering whether that counts as
real pedophilia or something like that. Fourteen is really darn young, right,
people knew this, This was public record, This was out there, right,
This was not a quite like rumors or something like that.
(07:03):
And you know this idea that like, oh I had
no idea. No, like he was already he had already
played guilty. There there's no you know, oh I you
know then the thing that you know, you're getting involved
with somebody who's your mentee. You mentioned all the reasons.
That is really bad news, and he's seeking romantic advice
from Jeffrey bleeping Epstein.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
What is this guy?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Serah de berganak right, like this is the guy who's
gonna help you close the deal?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You know, just.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Absolutely bizarre and the like, there's hundreds of messages. These
guys were close, and it just you can't look at
Larry Summers the same way after this, like what what
what is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
How did you? You know?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Interest in your mentee? Look, that's not a good thing,
but it's a human nature. Okay, fine, young attractive woman
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But the idea you're going.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
To pursue and you choose Epstein is the guy to
advise it. You know, we're not talking about putting Summers
in jail over this. We're not talking about you know,
but like we're saying, like, you know, should you still
be in a position we were overseeing students?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Probably not? Probably? Now we can't look at you the
same way.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
The statute of limitations on moral judgment has not run out,
and I don't think that, you know, doesn't mean all
of his economics things are taken and some people have
pointed out that people who vehemently disagree with Summer's economic
perspectives are among those who are coming along with pitchworks
and torches and are bro site and I like okay,
but like Summers made the choice to remain friends with Epstein.
(08:24):
Summers made the choice to communicate with him, and he
made the choice to say, Hey, I'm really interested in
this young woman.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I want to talk to Jeffrey Epstein about this.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I'm sorry, I have no sympathy for you, man, that's
all on you. You made those decisions. I am glad
you're receding from public life, and I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I'm not all that interest in seeing you come back.
We'll see how you do.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
You're doing financially fine, you can go into quiet retirement
and maybe think about all the different way you've embarrassed yourself.
You've embarrassed your family, You're embarrassed anybody who knew you
by the actions you took. And this is what I
talked a little bit earlier this week about if you're
a rich, powerful, famous person who was buddies with Epstein,
you're getting some reputational damage. Look, there was that conviction
(09:03):
back in two thousand and eight. This was not this
didn't come out of nowhere. Oh I had no idea. Sorry,
this is apparently more open secret than Harvey Weinstein, So sorry, pal,
no sympathy here.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, it's incredible because yeah, that was back during the
two thousands, right, and then you've got stories like Katie
Kirk we went to a party at his house in
like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, or Sounder's.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Like I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Really, that's a pretty prominent story even back then, as
I recall, and so Summer says, I'll keep teaching. I
don't think that's going to ultimately be up to him,
and I wouldn't be surprised if that opportunity ends as well.
But that's not up to us either. We'll see what
happens is more people comb through these pages and more
stuff ultimately gets released here. Because of course there was
(09:43):
the house investigation, which I think is the paperwork we've
gotten so far, and then ultimately we're going to get
the DJ paperwork here relatively soon. But yeah, we're going
to learn more really unpleasant details about more people. I think,
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Martini here, And this is some Democrat versus Democrat fighting
in the House of Representatives, and it all centers on
Chewy Garcia. Now, this Chewy is not a wookie. He
doesn't copilot the Millennium Falcon. He is a long tim
(11:45):
of the jokes Ah political figure in Chicago. There was
one time he was running for mayor against Ram Emmanuel
and I didn't know who Chewy Garcia was, but I'm like, well,
he's probably better than Ram Emmanuel. But Ram Emmanuel one,
Chewy Garcia's decided is not going to run for reelection,
which is certainly his right to do, but he did
not announce his decision to not seek reelection until the
(12:08):
filing deadline, and so that meant that the only person
who had filed for this race on the Democratic side
in a deep blue district is his chief of staff,
Patty Garcia. Then this Washington Democratic Congresswoman, Marie Glusen camp
Perez is now leading a rebuke of Chewey Garcia in
(12:28):
the House of Representatives. And so a couple of different
clips here. First of all, other Illinois House Democrats from
the Chicago area are not happy. Jonathan Jackson, who's the
son of Jesse Jackson, says that Glusen camp Perez should
be should stay in her lane, and others have said
so as well. Jan Shaikowski, who's also retiring, thank you,
(12:50):
who's wrong on absolutely everything, says this is shameful to
call out Chewy Garcia for this. Here's what Schakowski said
on the House floor.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I say, shame on you for deciding that this is
the issue that you who have no idea about the
role that Chui Garcia has played in the city of
Chicago and continues to play in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, and what she was talking about was his efforts
to obstruct ice in apprehending people or are in the
country illegally, potentially many of them criminals. Here's Glucid cam
Paris explaining that, yeah, well maybe you like this guy,
but we should have some standards around here.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
There are claims that this was not the work that
we were sent to do here, Then what gives us
the right to be here? If not being sent here?
There is a premise here. We have to be endowed
with trust and that has to be reciprocal with our voters.
And I would argue that there is a very loud demand,
(13:49):
a fervent, clear call by Americans right now for accountability
and transparency. And it's not just about the Epstein files,
it's all of it. They want us to stop this
fight and be honest and deliberate and respectful, to humbly serve.
(14:10):
That is what real leadership is.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yes, I think I think most people would agree with that. Now,
this is not an expulsion, This is not even a censure.
This is a resolution of disapproval. So it's a little
tap on the wrist there. And you've got folks like
Kim Jeffrey saying I don't support this so called resolution
of disapproval, and I strongly support Congressman Chewy Garcia, so
but I think it's I think it's already passed the
first hurdle in the House of Representatives, and you know,
(14:33):
in the end, not much as it's going to happen here,
He's pretty much gonna get what he wants because I
don't think they're going to change the deadline for filing
for this race. But good to see a little public
rebuke for one of her own there.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
First of all, kudos to Congresswoman Perez, But do you
notice like Schakowski kind of inching her way up the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Aisle In the background of that, I was.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Kind of wondering things are gonna you know, pretty feisty there, Greg.
I like to say on this podcast, sometimes, as the
Washington Post Slopan says, democracy dies in darkness and then
sometimes someone attacks it with a chainsaw in broad daylight
and absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
No one does anything about it.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Congressman Garcia, like first of apparents, apparently does this on
because of his cardiologists. Now, either, I have a hard
time believing that it suddenly became an issue that he
should not run for another term because of his health.
But let's assume the cardiologist as well. Things have gotten
a lot worse. Hopefully he found the cardiologist through ZocDoc
and he says, you know, oh, I can't run again.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
The right thing to do is to announce this well before.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
The filing deadline and to say I will endorse my
chief of staff I strongly support, Like those are a
lot of advantages for somebody. This whole thing where I'm
going to withhold the news till right before, so it's
too late for anybody else. Democrats keep insisting that they
are the defenders of democracy, right, and in order to
defend democracy, they have to pack the Supreme Court and
(15:54):
they have to impeach justices. They don't like it, like
they have to do all these other things.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Like this is a.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Giant example of how they don't really believe.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
In democracy when it proves inconvenient.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I realized there are four hundred and thirty five house
districts that have covered the House a lot. I know
it's not easy to pay attention to every what's going
on in every last little district, but this is really egregious,
right the people of this district. Yes, we know there's
like a ninety nine point nine percent chance that they're
going to vote for a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And we know that honestly, when it comes to most
votes in most issues, these.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Democrats are pretty indistinguishable. They're all going to vote the
same way. But the people that district deserve a choice.
They do not deserve to go to the polling place
and have only one candidate listed because of that. Now,
I assume that this is the filing deadline is the
same for all parties. I don't know if you could
do a late edition of it being a right in candidate,
but you should. These are not family heirlooms. And if
(16:46):
anybody wants to object to political positions being handed down
from father to son, it's Jesse Jackson Junior. A couple
of days ago in the Jolt, I went through the
list of but there are a lot in both parties.
But you know, there was this whole thing about no
kings at this big rally for Democrats, and a lot
of the people who spoke at these rallies were members
of Congress whose parents had been members of Congress themselves,
(17:09):
or they'd been state assemblymen, or they've been mayors, or
they'd had other things. Yes, we understand big. You know,
family names are a big help in politics. So these
people don't want kings, but they do want political offices
to be family heirlooms that are passed down from parent
to child, or an aristocracy, something where you basically you're
born into an elite political class and you get to
stay there your whole life. It just is infuriating. Good
(17:32):
for Congressman Perez for calling this out. And I think
the resolution, like you again, no one's saying expel him,
no one's saying put him in jail for this. They're
just just just a resolution saying this is a pretty
crappy thing to do, and you should not do this
to your constituents.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And apparently this is too Democrats, you know, unacceptable. You can't.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
We dare not criticize Chewy but you know, I'm just
gonna call him Chewie for all the Star Wars fans
out there. We dare not criticize him because you know
it might distract from you know, Trump is bad and
that's the only message you never focus on around here.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
The other Chewie, the one from Star Wars.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You know, he's pulled his arms out, that's what he
would do.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Kid you knows, not an American, not a resident of
that district. You know, whatever the constitutional requirements are, that
Chee was always on the right side of every issue.
He was faithful to every position he ever took and
always followed through and what he promised to do.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So only a war hero.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
While we're on the topic of aristocracy and kings, a
princess did not give him the medal.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That he deserved at the ceremony.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You know, by the way, if you happen to have
watched that TV series and or it really and then
you have put in Rogue one, like the entire effort
to destroy the Death Star was like all these people
look at Han show up ten minutes before the end,
like hey oh, and everybody loves them. Somewhere in the
background there should have been some survivor from the Endoor series.
Is like what the f man nobody's mentioning and or
(18:52):
nobody's mentioning all these people who died in Rogue one.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, and the fact that chew he stayed loyal to
the rebel cause despite being snubbed with the metal even
shows his character, so he'd be great. I wouldn't understand
it what he said, but I both right way.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
He even stood up when the X Wing rebel Vets
for Truth came out with those attack ads.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It was so unacceptable.
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Speaker 3 (21:10):
All right, Jim, it is twenty twenty five. We just
got through with the elections for this year. It's almost
a year until the mid terms, and yet many people
who serve in the United States Senate already licking their
chops and perhaps already putting plans together for a twenty
twenty eight presidential campaign. You wrote about this for the
corner at National Review. The list includes Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy,
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Corey Booker of New Jersey, who was one of those
who was among the two dozen or so back in
twenty twenty. Mark Kelly of Arizona has been visiting some
of the early states, and remember he was Barack Obama's
secret choice, secret for a while choice to be vice
president when Biden hit the bricks. Arizona's other Senator, Reuben Gega,
(21:55):
who's been in the Senate for what about ten fifteen minutes,
has already been visiting their early states. And then of
course Amy Klobashar who has run before, and Chris van
holland Heaven help us, potentially thinking about this as well. So, Jen,
there's only forty seven Democrats, and that's what nine of them,
so you know, the old saying is that every Senator
(22:15):
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zys a future president. But on the Democratic side it
seems to be pretty true.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Almost literally, it's more than nineteen percent, coming up on
close to twenty. So I came up and discovered this
over the context of Okay, Democrats and the progressive grassroots
are really upset with Chuck Schumer. Well, if you want
to replace Chuck Schumer, you need an alternative. You cannot
beat something with nothing unless you are a crazy House Republicans.
You want to get rid of Kevin McCarthy and then
spend three weeks bickering about who should be the you
(22:42):
have to speak of the House Democrats call him dumb.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
They do not.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
They're not going to make this mistake right. They're not
going to get rid of Chuck Schumer and have no
leader for a period of time. They need to have
an alternative. So the question is who can you unify
again as an alternative. Now, the other problem is is
that you could be Senate majority of leader and run
for president at the same time. Bob Dold did this
back in nineteen ninety six. For you young listeners, it
did not go well. Eventually Dold resigned from the Senate.
(23:09):
They had a specially, but like it was one of those
things like these are two hard jobs. Running for president
is very very hard. Being Senate Majority leader is very
very hard. Different skill sets, and it's probably really hard
to do both at the same time, really really hard
to do both well at the same time. So if
you're thinking of running for president, you're probably not a
serious option as Senate Majority of leader. So there's like
nine that you can't do. The other thing, which kind
(23:31):
of gets to me is that, like, I don't look,
none of us have a perfect crystal ball, but I
don't see any of these nine taking off. They're different
levels of political talent. Yes, Ruben Diego has indeed been
in the Senate for twenty minutes. Okay, he got elected
last year. But you know, he actually does talk about
the he's from a swing state, he's Latino, and he
(23:52):
talks about the American dream in a way that I
think really resonates with Latino audiences. He talked about being
you know, the American dream is owning a big, great,
big truck, having your own business and MANI contract. He
just but he talks about that stuff. I think he
does a better job than the typical Democrat. But just
going down the list, Chris Murphy wants it bad, and
you know, he's also trying to do this whole thing
where we need a political revolution. And Greg, the last
(24:15):
time a revolutionary came from the state of Connecticut, I
think was the seventeen seventies.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
That's a shout out.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
To Ken Burns American Revolution series on PBS. These days,
Corey Booker, he ran before. I don't see what's happened
since then. That's going to make Democrats.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Say, oh, set the filibuster record.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Kelly.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
You know, first of all, he has that really cheesy
thing where he did that supplement ad over in China,
which I thought was kind of creepy.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And you know, if you.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Didn't come in first in the deep steaks, and you
could argue you'd be a better choice than Tim Walls,
but it's a very low bar to clear. Yeah, our
democrats clamoring for Mark Kelly, I don't see it, but
you know, I mean, I suppose that's one of the
reasons you guys choose to run. Amy Klobe char is
apparently thinking about again, visited New Hampshire, Chris van Holland Whirling,
Derbyshire Political Charisma visited Iowa slock in a Michigan lucky
(25:08):
you for your your old home state. If nothing else,
she's a fresh face, so you could say, like she
has not run before. Apparently Jilli Brand wants to do
it again again. For all of these people, I don't
see Democratic primary voters are not looking at this and say, ah,
only we nominated Jillibrand back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You know that woman gotten Like I don't. I just
don't see it.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
And then but the last name is Rafael Warnock, who
were apparently a bunch of Democrats were like, oh, if
Biden hadn't run, he would have run. He's from an
important state, pretty good speaker as a preacher. I don't
think he's had a great record in the Senate, but
you know, but think about it, like I none of
these guys are at more than three percent in New Hampshire.
Most of these us are really not well known outside
of their own states. So I just kind of, you know,
(25:51):
I think one of the reasons our politics are bad
is that people see their elected office as a stepping
stone to another one, and they don't focus on the
job that they have. I think beginning of twenty twenty seven,
the presidential race is gonna start and you're gonna see
people jumping in and announcements and all that stuff. And
as you mentioned, the ridiculousness of the Democrats and so
many candidates in twenty twenty, they couldn't all appear on
(26:12):
the same stage in the same night, so they had
to do two part series.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You know, I just you know, folks, you're not you're
not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
You're you're you're a really little known senate who does
not stand out. And then you got into these, you know,
like the other things like if you do decide to
run for president, the point of a presidential debate is
to draw distinctions between yourself and the other candidates. So
you go, people don't get to vote for more than
one candidate, so you have to say I am the
best candidate, I'm better than all these other people on stage.
And here it's why during the twenty twenty one Correy
(26:41):
Booker would always jump in and say, well, let's not
bicker like this.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
This is what the Republicans wanted. Disagreement is what a
presidential debate is. About you can't all be kumbayah kep.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Aren't we all swell because you need to say this
is why I'm the best choice. So I am looking
at these forthcoming Democratic presidential primary with exasperation. Now, maybe
not all these people. Maybe some of these people look
at it and say, you know what, I'm not gonna
be able to raise the money. I'm not going to
be a real you know, like they could change. But
the fact that almost twenty percent of Senate Democrats are
thinking about running for president in twenty twenty eight not
(27:12):
a great sign for the forthcoming presidential race.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know who loves this, Patrick Bateman out there and
I'm sorry Gavin Newsom out there in California. Yeah, you
siphon off so much of the vote. It doesn't take
that much to win different primaries. And so he's gonna,
you know, twenty five thirty percent, You're good to go.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Somebody on Twitter said, with this many candidates, they should
not have it. You know, they usually should be like
the NCAA brackets, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Like head to head and kind of elimination.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
But I think Newsom could say, based on his fundraising,
his reputation, all that kinds of he's terrible, of course,
but like based on name idea alone, he should you know,
get a first round by.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yeah, probably a sixth has to play the sixteen seed
like Jillibrand in the first or.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Jill Brand versus Slockin or something, right, you know, that's.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
We're really going to do this again. Yeah, there's a
lot of people who shouldn't run except for schmid Lunch.
We'll see how many end up getting in about a
year from now, a lot of these people are going
to be ready to do that with their exploratory committees.
So get ready anyway, have a good.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Day, see tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
So glad you're with us for the Tuesday edition of
The Three Martini Lunch. And Jim, it's a very busy day.
We're going to get a House vote I think today
on releasing the Epstein files. I'm still not sure why
we need a vote now that Trump's in favor of it,
but I guess we're going to go through that process anyway.
It's going to pass, probably by a wide margin. We're
also going to take a closer look at Democrat accusing
(00:37):
Democrat of election malfeasance. Retiring Illinois Democratic congressman decided to
announce he wasn't going to run for reelection on the
filing deadline day, so his chief of staff could be
the only Democratic candidate. So we'll dive into that. And yes,
we're already talking about twenty twenty eight. And as Jim
has written, nearly twenty percent of the Senate Democrats are
(01:01):
somewhat or very interested in running for president in twenty
twenty eight. So Jim, I don't know if we're going
to need the double debate nights like we did in
twenty twenty when we had I don't know what two
dozen candidates or something, but buckle up, it's going to
be pretty full. It seems.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh, I got a lot to say on that one.
But I think the first thing that jumps to mind,
I mean, you look at all of those Senate Democrats
who are at least thinking about it, not ruling it out,
leaving the door open, or in some cases, you know,
very transparently going for it. More competition for our good
friend Irving schmid Lap, who is running for Senate in
Colorado despite the fact that he does not exist. He's
(01:39):
always been a brave crusader for the non existent American community.
You know, non existent Americans face more discrimination than any
other group just because they don't actually exist, and that
just seems, you know, just seems unfair.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So Irving, good luck to you.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
He's running for Senate, but I imagine if he will, whether
he wins or loses. And by the way, every now
and then I do scour the right end totals to
see many of our listeners have written in for Irving
schmid Lap. Schmid Lap twenty twenty eight seems like a
near certainty whether he's a senator or not a senator.
I guess he's going to be not a senator because
he doesn't exist. But I do like this is a
(02:14):
non zero chance that something, somehow he gets enough right
ends and he ends up becoming a senator. This is massive,
you know, issue, like what do we do for a
guy who doesn't actually exist?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Remember Rush had Operation Chaos in two thousand and eight.
That could be the three Martini lunch project for twenty
twenty six.
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as mentioned the house I think is supposed to vote
today on the discharge petition to release the Epstein files.
If it's not today, it's going to be very very soon.
But we already have kind of the first casualty, if
you want to put it that way, in terms of
the documents that have already been released, because House Democrats
House Republicans have released some documents Democrats very selectively. Republicans
(04:32):
like here, here's twenty three thousand pages or whatever it is.
Knock yourself out. Meanwhile, Politico reporting, The former Treasury Secretary
Larry Summers, in a statement Monday, said he would be
stepping back from public life and express deep regret for
past messages with the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein
in the wake of new revelations about the extent of
(04:52):
their relationship.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I am deeply ashamed of my actions and recognize the
pain they have caused, he told Politico. I take fuller
responsibility for my misguided decision to continue communicating with mister
Epstein while continuing to fulfill my teaching obligations. I will
be stepping back from public commitments as one part of
my broader effort to rebuild trust and repair relationships with
the people closest to me unquote. Emails revealed that Summers,
(05:17):
who served as Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton and
a top advisor to President Barack Obama, repeatedly sought advice
from Epstein un romantically pursuing a woman he referred to
as his mentee. Epstein, in one of the messages, referred
to himself as the prominent economists quote unquote wingman. So, Jim,
this is obviously not good. Usually if you have a mentee,
(05:40):
this is someone first of all, who's under your authority
and also is probably quite a bit younger than Larry
Summers would be my guest here. And so this is
obviously sleazy behavior. Bad that that happened, good that it's
coming out, and good that he's stepping back. That's exactly
what should happen here.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, So Larry Summers, well, I'm gonna say it's one
of my favorite Democrats, but he was one of the
folks who was publicly saying in the opening months of
the Biden administration, all of the spending you're doing is
going to set off a round of inflation, and almost
the entire rest of the Democratic Party said, no, that's nonsense,
there's nothing to worry about, and of course.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's set off inflation.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
So I found him a useful person to cite to
say this inflationary spasm was useful, and it was predicted
by economists like Larry Summers. With that said, this is
just unbelievably skeevee behavior. And you know, like and I
raised a question in Today's Morning Jolt. First of all,
on June thirtieth, two thousand and eight, Jeffrey Epstein pled
(06:39):
guilty to state charges of solicitation of prostitution and solicitation
of prostitution with a minor. And in that case it
involved a fourteen year old girl, Megan Kelly. For any
you know, notices of people wondering whether that counts as
real pedophilia or something like that. Fourteen is really darn young, right,
people knew this, This was public record, This was out there, right,
This was not a quite like rumors or something like that.
(07:03):
And you know this idea that like, oh I had
no idea. No, like he was already he had already
played guilty. There there's no you know, oh I you
know then the thing that you know, you're getting involved
with somebody who's your mentee. You mentioned all the reasons.
That is really bad news, and he's seeking romantic advice
from Jeffrey bleeping Epstein.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
What is this guy?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Serah de berganak right, like this is the guy who's
gonna help you close the deal?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You know, just.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Absolutely bizarre and the like, there's hundreds of messages. These
guys were close, and it just you can't look at
Larry Summers the same way after this, like what what
what is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
How did you? You know?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Interest in your mentee? Look, that's not a good thing,
but it's a human nature. Okay, fine, young attractive woman
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But the idea you're going.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
To pursue and you choose Epstein is the guy to
advise it. You know, we're not talking about putting Summers
in jail over this. We're not talking about you know,
but like we're saying, like, you know, should you still
be in a position we were overseeing students?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Probably not? Probably? Now we can't look at you the
same way.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
The statute of limitations on moral judgment has not run out,
and I don't think that, you know, doesn't mean all
of his economics things are taken and some people have
pointed out that people who vehemently disagree with Summer's economic
perspectives are among those who are coming along with pitchworks
and torches and are bro site and I like okay,
but like Summers made the choice to remain friends with Epstein.
(08:24):
Summers made the choice to communicate with him, and he
made the choice to say, Hey, I'm really interested in
this young woman.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I want to talk to Jeffrey Epstein about this.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I'm sorry, I have no sympathy for you, man, that's
all on you. You made those decisions. I am glad
you're receding from public life, and I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I'm not all that interest in seeing you come back.
We'll see how you do.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
You're doing financially fine, you can go into quiet retirement
and maybe think about all the different way you've embarrassed yourself.
You've embarrassed your family, You're embarrassed anybody who knew you
by the actions you took. And this is what I
talked a little bit earlier this week about if you're
a rich, powerful, famous person who was buddies with Epstein,
you're getting some reputational damage. Look, there was that conviction
(09:03):
back in two thousand and eight. This was not this
didn't come out of nowhere. Oh I had no idea. Sorry,
this is apparently more open secret than Harvey Weinstein, So sorry, pal,
no sympathy here.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, it's incredible because yeah, that was back during the
two thousands, right, and then you've got stories like Katie
Kirk we went to a party at his house in
like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, or Sounder's.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Like I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Really, that's a pretty prominent story even back then, as
I recall, and so Summer says, I'll keep teaching. I
don't think that's going to ultimately be up to him,
and I wouldn't be surprised if that opportunity ends as well.
But that's not up to us either. We'll see what
happens is more people comb through these pages and more
stuff ultimately gets released here. Because of course there was
(09:43):
the house investigation, which I think is the paperwork we've
gotten so far, and then ultimately we're going to get
the DJ paperwork here relatively soon. But yeah, we're going
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Martini here, And this is some Democrat versus Democrat fighting
in the House of Representatives, and it all centers on
Chewy Garcia. Now, this Chewy is not a wookie. He
doesn't copilot the Millennium Falcon. He is a long tim
(11:45):
of the jokes Ah political figure in Chicago. There was
one time he was running for mayor against Ram Emmanuel
and I didn't know who Chewy Garcia was, but I'm like, well,
he's probably better than Ram Emmanuel. But Ram Emmanuel one,
Chewy Garcia's decided is not going to run for reelection,
which is certainly his right to do, but he did
not announce his decision to not seek reelection until the
(12:08):
filing deadline, and so that meant that the only person
who had filed for this race on the Democratic side
in a deep blue district is his chief of staff,
Patty Garcia. Then this Washington Democratic Congresswoman, Marie Glusen camp
Perez is now leading a rebuke of Chewey Garcia in
(12:28):
the House of Representatives. And so a couple of different
clips here. First of all, other Illinois House Democrats from
the Chicago area are not happy. Jonathan Jackson, who's the
son of Jesse Jackson, says that Glusen camp Perez should
be should stay in her lane, and others have said
so as well. Jan Shaikowski, who's also retiring, thank you,
(12:50):
who's wrong on absolutely everything, says this is shameful to
call out Chewy Garcia for this. Here's what Schakowski said
on the House floor.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I say, shame on you for deciding that this is
the issue that you who have no idea about the
role that Chui Garcia has played in the city of
Chicago and continues to play in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, and what she was talking about was his efforts
to obstruct ice in apprehending people or are in the
country illegally, potentially many of them criminals. Here's Glucid cam
Paris explaining that, yeah, well maybe you like this guy,
but we should have some standards around here.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
There are claims that this was not the work that
we were sent to do here, Then what gives us
the right to be here? If not being sent here?
There is a premise here. We have to be endowed
with trust and that has to be reciprocal with our voters.
And I would argue that there is a very loud demand,
(13:49):
a fervent, clear call by Americans right now for accountability
and transparency. And it's not just about the Epstein files,
it's all of it. They want us to stop this
fight and be honest and deliberate and respectful, to humbly serve.
(14:10):
That is what real leadership is.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yes, I think I think most people would agree with that. Now,
this is not an expulsion, This is not even a censure.
This is a resolution of disapproval. So it's a little
tap on the wrist there. And you've got folks like
Kim Jeffrey saying I don't support this so called resolution
of disapproval, and I strongly support Congressman Chewy Garcia, so
but I think it's I think it's already passed the
first hurdle in the House of Representatives, and you know,
(14:33):
in the end, not much as it's going to happen here,
He's pretty much gonna get what he wants because I
don't think they're going to change the deadline for filing
for this race. But good to see a little public
rebuke for one of her own there.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
First of all, kudos to Congresswoman Perez, But do you
notice like Schakowski kind of inching her way up the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Aisle In the background of that, I was.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Kind of wondering things are gonna you know, pretty feisty there, Greg.
I like to say on this podcast, sometimes, as the
Washington Post Slopan says, democracy dies in darkness and then
sometimes someone attacks it with a chainsaw in broad daylight
and absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
No one does anything about it.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Congressman Garcia, like first of apparents, apparently does this on
because of his cardiologists. Now, either, I have a hard
time believing that it suddenly became an issue that he
should not run for another term because of his health.
But let's assume the cardiologist as well. Things have gotten
a lot worse. Hopefully he found the cardiologist through ZocDoc
and he says, you know, oh, I can't run again.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
The right thing to do is to announce this well before.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
The filing deadline and to say I will endorse my
chief of staff I strongly support, Like those are a
lot of advantages for somebody. This whole thing where I'm
going to withhold the news till right before, so it's
too late for anybody else. Democrats keep insisting that they
are the defenders of democracy, right, and in order to
defend democracy, they have to pack the Supreme Court and
(15:54):
they have to impeach justices. They don't like it, like
they have to do all these other things.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Like this is a.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Giant example of how they don't really believe.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
In democracy when it proves inconvenient.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I realized there are four hundred and thirty five house
districts that have covered the House a lot. I know
it's not easy to pay attention to every what's going
on in every last little district, but this is really egregious,
right the people of this district. Yes, we know there's
like a ninety nine point nine percent chance that they're
going to vote for a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And we know that honestly, when it comes to most
votes in most issues, these.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Democrats are pretty indistinguishable. They're all going to vote the
same way. But the people that district deserve a choice.
They do not deserve to go to the polling place
and have only one candidate listed because of that. Now,
I assume that this is the filing deadline is the
same for all parties. I don't know if you could
do a late edition of it being a right in candidate,
but you should. These are not family heirlooms. And if
(16:46):
anybody wants to object to political positions being handed down
from father to son, it's Jesse Jackson Junior. A couple
of days ago in the Jolt, I went through the
list of but there are a lot in both parties.
But you know, there was this whole thing about no
kings at this big rally for Democrats, and a lot
of the people who spoke at these rallies were members
of Congress whose parents had been members of Congress themselves,
(17:09):
or they'd been state assemblymen, or they've been mayors, or
they'd had other things. Yes, we understand big. You know,
family names are a big help in politics. So these
people don't want kings, but they do want political offices
to be family heirlooms that are passed down from parent
to child, or an aristocracy, something where you basically you're
born into an elite political class and you get to
stay there your whole life. It just is infuriating. Good
(17:32):
for Congressman Perez for calling this out. And I think
the resolution, like you again, no one's saying expel him,
no one's saying put him in jail for this. They're
just just just a resolution saying this is a pretty
crappy thing to do, and you should not do this
to your constituents.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And apparently this is too Democrats, you know, unacceptable. You can't.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
We dare not criticize Chewy but you know, I'm just
gonna call him Chewie for all the Star Wars fans
out there. We dare not criticize him because you know
it might distract from you know, Trump is bad and
that's the only message you never focus on around here.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
The other Chewie, the one from Star Wars.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You know, he's pulled his arms out, that's what he
would do.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Kid you knows, not an American, not a resident of
that district. You know, whatever the constitutional requirements are, that
Chee was always on the right side of every issue.
He was faithful to every position he ever took and
always followed through and what he promised to do.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So only a war hero.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
While we're on the topic of aristocracy and kings, a
princess did not give him the medal.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That he deserved at the ceremony.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You know, by the way, if you happen to have
watched that TV series and or it really and then
you have put in Rogue one, like the entire effort
to destroy the Death Star was like all these people
look at Han show up ten minutes before the end,
like hey oh, and everybody loves them. Somewhere in the
background there should have been some survivor from the Endoor series.
Is like what the f man nobody's mentioning and or
(18:52):
nobody's mentioning all these people who died in Rogue one.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, and the fact that chew he stayed loyal to
the rebel cause despite being snubbed with the metal even
shows his character, so he'd be great. I wouldn't understand
it what he said, but I both right way.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
He even stood up when the X Wing rebel Vets
for Truth came out with those attack ads.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It was so unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
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Chewy was either. Chewy really at keeping track of their money.
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Speaker 3 (21:10):
All right, Jim, it is twenty twenty five. We just
got through with the elections for this year. It's almost
a year until the mid terms, and yet many people
who serve in the United States Senate already licking their
chops and perhaps already putting plans together for a twenty
twenty eight presidential campaign. You wrote about this for the
corner at National Review. The list includes Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy,
(21:35):
Corey Booker of New Jersey, who was one of those
who was among the two dozen or so back in
twenty twenty. Mark Kelly of Arizona has been visiting some
of the early states, and remember he was Barack Obama's
secret choice, secret for a while choice to be vice
president when Biden hit the bricks. Arizona's other Senator, Reuben Gega,
(21:55):
who's been in the Senate for what about ten fifteen minutes,
has already been visiting their early states. And then of
course Amy Klobashar who has run before, and Chris van
holland Heaven help us, potentially thinking about this as well. So, Jen,
there's only forty seven Democrats, and that's what nine of them,
so you know, the old saying is that every Senator
(22:15):
wakes up in the morning, looks and the marr and
zys a future president. But on the Democratic side it
seems to be pretty true.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Almost literally, it's more than nineteen percent, coming up on
close to twenty. So I came up and discovered this
over the context of Okay, Democrats and the progressive grassroots
are really upset with Chuck Schumer. Well, if you want
to replace Chuck Schumer, you need an alternative. You cannot
beat something with nothing unless you are a crazy House Republicans.
You want to get rid of Kevin McCarthy and then
spend three weeks bickering about who should be the you
(22:42):
have to speak of the House Democrats call him dumb.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
They do not.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
They're not going to make this mistake right. They're not
going to get rid of Chuck Schumer and have no
leader for a period of time. They need to have
an alternative. So the question is who can you unify
again as an alternative. Now, the other problem is is
that you could be Senate majority of leader and run
for president at the same time. Bob Dold did this
back in nineteen ninety six. For you young listeners, it
did not go well. Eventually Dold resigned from the Senate.
(23:09):
They had a specially, but like it was one of those
things like these are two hard jobs. Running for president
is very very hard. Being Senate Majority leader is very
very hard. Different skill sets, and it's probably really hard
to do both at the same time, really really hard
to do both well at the same time. So if
you're thinking of running for president, you're probably not a
serious option as Senate Majority of leader. So there's like
nine that you can't do. The other thing, which kind
(23:31):
of gets to me is that, like, I don't look,
none of us have a perfect crystal ball, but I
don't see any of these nine taking off. They're different
levels of political talent. Yes, Ruben Diego has indeed been
in the Senate for twenty minutes. Okay, he got elected
last year. But you know, he actually does talk about
the he's from a swing state, he's Latino, and he
(23:52):
talks about the American dream in a way that I
think really resonates with Latino audiences. He talked about being
you know, the American dream is owning a big, great,
big truck, having your own business and MANI contract. He
just but he talks about that stuff. I think he
does a better job than the typical Democrat. But just
going down the list, Chris Murphy wants it bad, and
you know, he's also trying to do this whole thing
where we need a political revolution. And Greg, the last
(24:15):
time a revolutionary came from the state of Connecticut, I
think was the seventeen seventies.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
That's a shout out.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
To Ken Burns American Revolution series on PBS. These days,
Corey Booker, he ran before. I don't see what's happened
since then. That's going to make Democrats.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Say, oh, set the filibuster record.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Kelly.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
You know, first of all, he has that really cheesy
thing where he did that supplement ad over in China,
which I thought was kind of creepy.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And you know, if you.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Didn't come in first in the deep steaks, and you
could argue you'd be a better choice than Tim Walls,
but it's a very low bar to clear. Yeah, our
democrats clamoring for Mark Kelly, I don't see it, but
you know, I mean, I suppose that's one of the
reasons you guys choose to run. Amy Klobe char is
apparently thinking about again, visited New Hampshire, Chris van Holland Whirling,
Derbyshire Political Charisma visited Iowa slock in a Michigan lucky
(25:08):
you for your your old home state. If nothing else,
she's a fresh face, so you could say, like she
has not run before. Apparently Jilli Brand wants to do
it again again. For all of these people, I don't
see Democratic primary voters are not looking at this and say, ah,
only we nominated Jillibrand back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You know that woman gotten Like I don't. I just
don't see it.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
And then but the last name is Rafael Warnock, who
were apparently a bunch of Democrats were like, oh, if
Biden hadn't run, he would have run. He's from an
important state, pretty good speaker as a preacher. I don't
think he's had a great record in the Senate, but
you know, but think about it, like I none of
these guys are at more than three percent in New Hampshire.
Most of these us are really not well known outside
of their own states. So I just kind of, you know,
(25:51):
I think one of the reasons our politics are bad
is that people see their elected office as a stepping
stone to another one, and they don't focus on the
job that they have. I think beginning of twenty twenty seven,
the presidential race is gonna start and you're gonna see
people jumping in and announcements and all that stuff. And
as you mentioned, the ridiculousness of the Democrats and so
many candidates in twenty twenty, they couldn't all appear on
(26:12):
the same stage in the same night, so they had
to do two part series.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You know, I just you know, folks, you're not you're
not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
You're you're you're a really little known senate who does
not stand out. And then you got into these, you know,
like the other things like if you do decide to
run for president, the point of a presidential debate is
to draw distinctions between yourself and the other candidates. So
you go, people don't get to vote for more than
one candidate, so you have to say I am the
best candidate, I'm better than all these other people on stage.
And here it's why during the twenty twenty one Correy
(26:41):
Booker would always jump in and say, well, let's not
bicker like this.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
This is what the Republicans wanted. Disagreement is what a
presidential debate is. About you can't all be kumbayah kep.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Aren't we all swell because you need to say this
is why I'm the best choice. So I am looking
at these forthcoming Democratic presidential primary with exasperation. Now, maybe
not all these people. Maybe some of these people look
at it and say, you know what, I'm not gonna
be able to raise the money. I'm not going to
be a real you know, like they could change. But
the fact that almost twenty percent of Senate Democrats are
thinking about running for president in twenty twenty eight not
(27:12):
a great sign for the forthcoming presidential race.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know who loves this, Patrick Bateman out there and
I'm sorry Gavin Newsom out there in California. Yeah, you
siphon off so much of the vote. It doesn't take
that much to win different primaries. And so he's gonna,
you know, twenty five thirty percent, You're good to go.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Somebody on Twitter said, with this many candidates, they should
not have it. You know, they usually should be like
the NCAA brackets, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Like head to head and kind of elimination.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
But I think Newsom could say, based on his fundraising,
his reputation, all that kinds of he's terrible, of course,
but like based on name idea alone, he should you know,
get a first round by.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yeah, probably a sixth has to play the sixteen seed
like Jillibrand in the first or.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Jill Brand versus Slockin or something, right, you know, that's.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
We're really going to do this again. Yeah, there's a
lot of people who shouldn't run except for schmid Lunch.
We'll see how many end up getting in about a
year from now, a lot of these people are going
to be ready to do that with their exploratory committees.
So get ready anyway, have a good.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Day, see tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
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