September 11, 2023 • 28 mins
Join Jim and Greg as they reflect upon 22 years since the horrific 9/11 attacks that significantly changed our nation in so many ways. They then tackle the first frustrating piece of news - that military prosecutors are seriously considering removing the death penalty as a possibility for 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his co-conspirators held at Guantanamo Bay. Jim then launches a legendary scolding of New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham for brazenly violating the Constitution and unilaterally suspending the rights of citizens in her state to open or concealed carry guns. They also cheer Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin for pardoning the Loudoun County dad who was arrested for disrupting a school board meeting after his daughter was sexually assaulted by a male identifying as a female while in school and school leaders lied to him about it and repeatedly tried to cover it up. Finally, they end on the lighter side, as Greg reflects on a horrible performance by his Chicago Bears and Jim deals with the strange feeling of high expectations for his New York Jets.
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Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of
Radio America and Jim Garritty of NationalReview. Three Martini's coming up. Hey,
very glad you're with us for theMonday edition of the Three Martini Lunch.
It's also exactly twenty two years todaysince the nine to eleven attacks that
changed this nation in so many ways. And as people who are old enough
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to remember that day go through it, they're remembering it was a beautiful sunny
day like this, and then theirworld was absolutely shattered in a number of
ways. If you lived in thelocal areas where the attacks happened, you
certainly have vivid memories of wondering ifpeople that you lived near or worked with
were at those sites or on thoseplanes. If you've had the chance in
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more recent years to go to thememorial sites where at the Pentagon New York
City or in Pennsylvania, which myfamily did last year in Pennsylvania. We've
also been to the Pentagon, haven'tbeen in New York City for that memorially,
yet it's a stirring sight. It'sit was more emotional than I expected.
As I explained last year when wewent there and Jim for those of
us who are now getting a littlebit longer in the tooth, and we
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realized that there are anybody under twentyfive, twenty six now already in this
country doesn't remember that day. It'skind of hard to process. It's kind
of like our parents not realizing thatwe don't have any concept to the Kennedy
assassination or something like that. Butit's it's a day that while if you
want to make it a day ofservice, you can, it's mainly a
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day of remembrance and remembering those whorisked their lives and unfortunately many who gave
their lives to save people they didn'teven know. You know, Greg,
last night, I was scrolling throughYouTube and something about the algorithm. I
don't remember searching for anything relating tonine to eleven, but it brought up
video of the live broadcast, andit clearly was something that had been taped.
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It was not one of the replaysthat MSNBC used to do to its
credit for about a decade or soafter the attacks. And apparently Matt Lower,
a figure who we all feel prettydifferently about now, was interviewing an
author of a book about Howard Hughes. And the first thing is it almost
feels painful to watch that and knowinglike one era was about to come to
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an end, that these were thelast moments of normalcy before the world just
turned upside down. Everything had beenchanged, and the other things you usually
watch, you know, the coverageof that day you watch, you know
what things were like in September twothousand and one. You know, depending
on your age, it is alifetime ago. It is a really long
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time ago, and I don't Oneof the things that I take a certain
amount of solos or pride from isthat for a lot of people nine to
eleven, September eleventh comes and goes, and maybe hopefully they pause, hopefully
they remember, maybe they go toa memorial ceremony or something. But like
that, it isn't a terrifying day. We're not worried about attacks on the
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anniversary. We don't spend a lotof time thinking about al Qaida. They're
still out there, some riff raffAlkaida, and the Arabian Peninsula is still
kicking around. Isis came and went. We don't worry about Islamist terror as
much as we used to. We'vehad all kinds of other problems come along
COVID, We've had, you know, domestic extremists, smash shooters. You
know, there there are things tofear in this world, but we don't
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live in fear. And I feellike to the extent America can win a
war on terror. That's it.That we don't live in fear of terrorism
nearly as much as we used to. Maybe maybe too little. Maybe we
don't worry about it as much aswe should. Hopefully I'm going to knock
on wood and say a prayer aboutthat and hopefully things turn out okay.
But yeah, it is kind ofstrange when this date comes on the calendar
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and the degree to which you canfeel sort of normal. Kids went off
to school this morning, Missus Garrettywent off to work. We all,
we all kind of go about ourdays and just you know, on September
twelfth, it was very hard toimagine there would ever be a day when
September eleventh might feel as normal asit does in our family. That was
my grandmother's birthday. She passed awaybefore the nine to eleven attacks, but
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that was always a really happy day. And then of course nine to eleven
became a tragic day for our nation, and then a couple of years after
that, my brother got married onnine to eleven. So it's always been
a day that was significant in ourfamily, but for a nation, it's
a day for remembrance and a timethat we're probably as united as we're going
to be in the rest of ourlifetimes. Sadly, our opening Martini actually
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deals with nine to eleven USA today, with the story a full two decades
after their capture. The US MilitaryCommission trial of the Century against the five
accused leaders of the nine to elevenattacks appeared finally back on track earlier this
year. Then came another delay inpre trial hearings this past July, and
in August, a bombshell, theDepartment of Defense disclosed that prosecutors in its
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Office of Military Commissions are considering aplea deal to spare the lives of self
admitted plot mastermind College Mohammed, andfour alleged accomplices in exchange for admissions of
guilt in the attacks that killed nearlythree thousand people twenty two years ago.
Today, no pre trial agreement hasbeen finalized and may never be finalized.
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With the five men held at theUS prison complex at Guantanamo Bay, but
this letter from the Office of MilitaryCommissions alerting that this is possible did not
go overwhelm. Terry Strada, representativeof many nine to eleven families, said
the possibility of such a plea agreementas just the latest and probably the biggest
slap in the face yet for thosedemanding answers and accountability for al Qaeda's suicide
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hijackings. Jim, sometimes you know, death penalty threats are removed in exchange
for guilty please, which is allegedlythe premise here, but it says self
admitted plot mastermind. He was braggingabout it before we caught him. There's
been no denial since then. He'sbeen extremely uncooperative since then. It's been
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more than two decades. I thinkwe know what he did. I think
he's probably at this point cut offfor most of the people he could be
os, so there's not much morewe can get out of him. I
think we know it comes next.Yeah, I mean, like, whether
your perspective is that Kaleg shik Mohammedshould die and should die preferably very quickly
because as a result of his actions, or whether you're a steadfast opponent of
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the death penalty, and you believethat the US government should never execute anyone,
even someone as horrific and terrible andevil as College shik Mohammed. I
think all Americans can be a littlebit embarrassed, a little bit frustrated that
it's been more than two decades andwe're still we haven't ant of the trial
yet, we're still debating how wewant to hold a trial and all of
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these processes. And also I cansee people kind of wondering, like,
what, you know, when theguy has admitted it, there's no question
that we've mixed him up with someother College shik Mohammed. There's no other
you know, Like, the guiltis pretty clear, it's pretty straightforward.
He's admitted it, he's proud ofit. He doesn't have the slightest bit
of shame or remorse. What arewe waiting on here? What is what
is the what is left to debateor discuss or to hold to discuss at
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this trial? So that's that isthe first and most pre eminent problem.
The second thing is that if youdon't apply the death penalty to College shik
Mohammad, who has the blood ofmore than three thousand Americans on his hands.
When would you ever apply it.I mean, we can point out
that the nine to eleven hijackers werekilled immediately in the attacks. We can
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point out that Osama bin Laden iscurrently fish food the bottom of the Indian
Ocean somewhere, and many other AlQaeda operatives and senior officials and all of
that have been killed in the twentysome years of the War on Terror.
But there's this question, what doyou want to do with this guy?
And I almost would like, Ialmost would feel comfortable with either decision.
If America made the decision, ifthe attitude was, look, you've your
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actions completely warrant the death penalty,we find you guilty, and now you
will go to execution, or ifour attitude was, you know, we
will not kill executed prisoners. Iknow, for example, the Central Intelligence
Agency officially opposes the death penalty foreveryone who's captured, even the most worse,
because the dead men tell no tales, and that do you never know
when someone after many years, we'llstart talking and we'll start offering useful information.
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I don't think it's necessarily going tohappen. From galich Chick Mohammad.
But I can respect that position.I can respect that philosophy towards that,
and I also respect people who,either for reasons of religious faith or just
other their perspective on morality, believethat they just don't trust the state with
the power to kill people, evensomeone is abominable Askalie Chick Mohammad. I
remember a poll about Timothy McVeigh foundthat something like close to half of all
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self identified death penalty opponents supported thedeath penalty for him for what he did
in the Oklahoma City a bombing.So I understand people have different perspectives on
this. But the fact that weare now twenty two years since nine to
eleven Kalie Chick Mohammed was captured inlate two thousand and one, I want
to say, early two thousand andtwo, and he's been in US custody
for more than twenty years, andwe still haven't reached this kind of decision.
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There's a deeply frustrating point, andit's very easy to understand why the
nine to eleven families would be upsetby the possibility of taking the death penalty
off the table. No, absolutelyright, and like it said, they
may never even get a pre trialagreement. So we've been just sit in
this limbo forever. Who knows,but obviously it hasn't been a huge priority
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to get this underway. All right, onto our second martini, now,
also a bad martini. One ofthe things that we cherish in this country
is freedom. It's one of thethings that George W. Bush and others
told us that the terrors hated inour country. But one of the things
we cherish in our constitution, mostespecially in our Bill of Rights, but
all freedoms that we enjoy in ourour constitution. We don't really like it
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when politicians say that they're going totake it away from us only for a
little time. Though, Jim,you, what have you heard that you're
going to take away your liberties foronly only a little bit of time,
maybe like two weeks or something.Oh, this time it's going to be
thirty. Michelle Leuhan Grisham, sheis the Democratic governor of New Mexico,
and they've been dealing, like manyother parts of the country, with rises
in violent crime. They love theterm gun violence, like the guns just
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do it by themselves. But there'sa lot of violence happening. People are
using guns to commit it, andso she's decided that the way to stop
criminals from committing violent crime is toban people from having guns in public,
whether open carry or concealed carry.Well, we can certainly talk about the
logic of that in a moment,or the lack thereof, But there's also
the issue of the constitutionality, whichone of the reporters in New Mexico finally
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got around too, and like anyloquacious lib she finally got around to twisting
this in a way that actually protectspeople's rights. Jim, take a listen
to Governor Luhan Grisham. Here tothe constitution, isn't unconstitutional to say you
cannot exercise you carry license with oneexception, and that is, if there's
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an emergency and I've declared an emergencyfor a temporary amount of time, I
can invoke additional powers. No constitutionalright, in my view, including my
oath, is intended to be absolute. There are restrictions on free speech,
there are restrictions on my freedoms inthis emergency. This eleven year old and
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all these parents who have lost allthese children, they deserve my attention to
have the debate about whether or notin an emergency, we can create a
safer environment, because what about theirconstitutional rights? I took an oath to
uphold those two And if we ignorethis growing problem without being bold, I've
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said to every other New Mexican,your rights are subrogated to theirs. I
got your rights for a little while. Jim, we need to be bold.
I'm not sure that's what was inthe Federalist papers. But what do
you make of Governor grishav in theblowbact? She's getting you, Greg,
I'm going to try really hard notto drop any F bombs in this answer,
but I want to. I don'twant to hear another damn thing from
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a single Democrat talking about Donald Trumpbeing a threat to the constitution, a
threat to the rule of law,an autocrat, an authoritarian, or I
got some guy running around who believesthat because of his whim the laws should
just be changed. It on dime, because that's what she's doing right here.
My colleagues over in the corner arediscussing about whether the governor should be
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arrested. I think this is undoubtedlylike, if you're a New Mexico Republican,
you should be beginning impeachment proceedings yesterday, and I don't care if you're
the minority of the state legislature,you introduced those articles. You make that
argument that this is an explicit violationof her oath, Like she doesn't just
take an oath to preserve, protecting, defend the state constitution. All US
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lawmakers have taken, you know,either explicitly or implicially, take an oath
to preserve, protecting, defend theUS Constitution. And you do not get
to suspend laws on the books anda constitutional right willy nilly because you've decided
it's time for a debate. No, it's not. That's Kevin Williamson once
said. Everything that's in the Billof Rights is everything that is so important
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that you the people don't get tovote on it. You can't vote to
suspend free speech. You can't voteto suspend the Second Amendment. If you
want to change the Constitution, youhave to go through the amendment process.
You want to try repealing the SecondAmendment, you go right ahead and try
that. You're not going to getvery far, but I will you know
that that is the way this processis supposed to work. You're not supposed
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to just decide, oh, youknow what, I see an opportunity here.
I feel like that there shouldn't beSecond Amendment rights in Mexico. So
I'm going to do that. Thoselaws on the books in New Mexico,
you could repeal them, there's awhole process for that, but that would
be too hard. So she's decidingthat as governor she can utilaterally decide those
laws we did over concealed carry andopen carry. They don't exist anymore.
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I am hand waving them away.Dang it. That is not the way
this country works. This is notby the way, if you think that
there's real danger of Republicans turning fascistand that this is going to be some
you know, the democracy is onthe ballot in twenty twenty twenty four,
what the hell are you doing tryingsomething like this. This, This is
basically communicating to everybody in the stateand really the rest of the country.
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I the governor of New Mexico,don't really believe in the constitution. When
it gets inconvenient, I'm just gonnawave my magic wand and say it doesn't
it doesn't count anymore, and I'mgoing to suspend the laws. And if
you don't think the other side isn'tgoing to try to do that. And
if you don't think every single power, mad, you know, ambitious,
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hungry politician in the country isn't goingto look at this and say, ooh,
if she can do this, Ican do this too, then you're
unbelievably naively optimistic. We know,this is the line in the sand.
Either. You don't get to justsuddenly the side. Yeah, I find
that part of the Constitution inconvenient,So I'm going to hand wave it away
for the next thirty days. Youdon't get to do that. This is
gonna end up with terrible consequences downthe road. But I hope, I
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hope she enjoys the press release.I hope she's enjoying, you know,
the attention she's getting. Jim extremelywell said, extremely well said. And
the whole point of the Constitution,of course, is that these principles are
in place regardless of what's going on. It's not like, oh, well,
if everything is a hunky dory,we can abide by these provisions in
the Bill of Rights, but theminute we've got a problem, we can
just move them around or suspend them. No, it's completely opposite to how
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things work. That's why we havedivided government. The legislature makes the laws.
Your job is to enforce them,not pick and choose. And I
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that's right here in Virginia. WhereGovernor Glen Younkin was on Fox News Sunday
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yesterday was Shannon Bream. And oneof the issues that Shannon Bream brought up
was an issue that I would saycertainly contributed to the election of Glen Youngcan
in twenty twenty one. It wasfrom Loudon County. There were parents protesting
a lot of things about the schoolboard there, from critical race theory to
gender identity theory and a lot ofother things masks at that time. And
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then another thing that happened was thata girl was sexually assaulted in a bathroom
by a boy who was identifying asa female, and so he was allowed
into that restroom. The dad,understandably was very upset at the meeting.
He was arrested for trying to breakthrough people restraining him and so forth.
His name is Scott Smith, andso yesterday Shannon Bream was saying that,
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you know, Scott Smith apparently isstill facing one more charge here and he's
looking for a little help from you. I don't know if Shannon breem halready
knew this, but Glennyukin brought somehelp with him. He expressed frustration this
summer when he found out he wasgoing to have to face trial this fall
on a remaining charge. He said, I have yet to hear from our
governor, Glen Yunkin, is youradministration in contact with him about his case.
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We are in contact with him,and in fact I spoke with mister
Smith on Friday and I had theprivilege of telling mister Smith that I would
pardon him, and we did thaton Friday. We right it or wrong,
he should have never been prosecuted here. This was a dad standing up
for his daughter and just to remindeveryone, his daughter had been sexually assaulted
in the bathroom of a school andno one was doing anything about it.
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And in fact, it took theelection of a new governor. Me and
my directive to our Attorney General,Jason Mere is to investigate this, to
uncover the fact that the superintendent hadin fact covered it up, and he
was immediately terminated when the final reportfrom the grand jury was issued. Mister
Smith did what any father would do, what any parent would do, was
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stand up for their child. Andeven worse, what then happened was the
perpetrator was moved to another school andsexually assaulted another young woman. And so
I think Jim, based on thecoverage we did of the story, and
I think was the Daily Wire whooriginally broke that story, So hats off
to them. This is a prettycommon sense move here. Meanwhile, Democrats,
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at least not all of them,don't see it that way. State
Senator Scott Servel tweeting out yesterday GlennYoungins all about law and order until he
can use a pardon to help hisfailing presidential ambitions or try to change the
campaign focus from taking away women's rightsto his billionaire funded mission to destroy and
privatize schools. So I think weknow who's actually trying to distract from the
actual story here. But when youmake of Youngkin's actions and the fact that
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even this is controversial, Greg,my mind is bockled by the fact that
Virginia elected Democrats look at the iratedad over his you know, just furious
over his daughter being sexually assaulted,being just eruptive at a school board meeting,
and now they want to get toughon crime. Now they're all law
on order. We found the villainin this story, all right. It's
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not it's not the kid who's assaultingpeople. No, no, it's not
the administrators covering it up. It'sthe dad who got just too darn mad
and disruptive at the school board meeting. Now lots of people get removed from
school board meetings, town council meetings, county council. You know, like
it's you know, it does it'snot doesn't happen all the time, but
it's not that rare and not alwaysa case where you have to press charges.
Most of the time. You know, security guard escorts you out.
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You know, you've you've learned yourlesson, you got it. You know.
I'm not saying that any kind ofbehavior at these sorts of meetings is
acceptable, but it's really easy tounderstand where Scott Smith was coming from.
It's very easy to relate. Ithink every parent looks at that. Here's
about that. I thinks, ohmy god, if something like that happened
to my child, I would beBruce Banner turning into the helk. I
would just be you know, besidemyself with rage and you know, spitting
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hot fire at the school administrators whowould let something like that happen. You
know, Scott Smith is not thevillain in this story. You know,
did he possibly get was he possiblytoo disruptive that he had to be okay,
all right, it happens. It'sunderstandable, it's relatable. You do
need to keep order, you doneed to keep it's an acceptable level of
discourse at a school board meeting orsomething like that. But again, if
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you've got a heart, you canunderstand why this guy feels this way.
Apparently these you know, state legislators, and apparently the Commonwealth Attorney for Loudon
County also doesn't have a heart,because she too is denouncing this as a
political stunt and unprecedented, inappropriate interventionand actively like every pardon is an intervention
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in an active legal case. Andthe idea that this, you know,
like, the only reason this isa politically winning issue is because these Democrats
were so stupid in the way theyreacted to an outrageous set of circumstances at
a public school. And so goodfor you, Governor jun Ken. It
is a refreshing breath of the breathof fresh air to have a governor who
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does the right thing in this circumstance. And I would point out,
like, yes, he's doing thison Fox News Sunday and all okay,
but this would be a very easyissue to demagogue, and he's you know,
he's simply calling him as he seehim. I thinks, I don't
see him running ads based on this. I don't see him, you know,
hosting, you know, like ScottThomas Smith suddenly turning into the next
big speaker at Sea Packer or something. Some things are really terrible and we
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don't need to turn them into apolitical football. That having been said,
we have every reason to be lividwith these school administrators and school board members
who reacted this way. Scott Smithis not the villain of this story,
and it's absurd that our legal systemdid. And it strongly appears like this
prosecution because most people don't get prosecutedfor something this severely. It certainly looks
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like he was. Real crime wasembarrassing democratic state lawmakers, exactly Democrats who
are completely on the wrong side ofthis issue two years ago, and it's
obvious from their reaction here that they'velearned absolutely nothing. So if this does
become a political issue this year,it's their own fault. Glennie I can
clearly do on the right thing here, And at this point I don't think
he's running for president. I mean, the rumor is that he's waiting to
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see how the midterms turned out inVirginia. But by then year, in
early to mid November, and that'sreally really late to get in to the
presidential race all right, real quicklybefore we had out, Jim. Yesterday
was the main opening day for theNFL season. Of course, it started
last Thursday with the Lions actually beatingthe Chiefs. Yesterday a number of games.
The Bears, unfortunately, were themarquee game in the late afternoon against
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the Packers. They lost thirty eightto twenty. I did not grab any
clips from coach Eberfloss, but Idid grab this one from Jim Mora back
in the nineties when he was coachingthe Saints that I think sums up the
Bears day pretty well. We couldn'tdo diddly pooh offensively. We couldn't make
a first down. We couldn't runthe ball, we didn't try to run
the ball. We couldn't complete apass. We sucked the second half.
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We sucked. Yeah, So Iended up watching some of the US Open
in the second half when it wasno longer competitive. So if we thought
that just exporting Aaron Rodgers to theJam was going to get it done,
there's a lot more work to do. Both the offensive and defensive line.
Still, stink Fields did not havemuch time, and even when he did,
he wasn't as sharp as he probablyshould have been, so we're probably
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looking another long season. Although Idon't want to read too much into one
game, it's possible to Packers,who do have a really good defensive line
might actually be just fine without AaronRodgers. But speaking of him, he
debuts tonight for your beloved New YorkJets Monday night football against the Bills.
Should be a good game. Nowthat you've got expectations very much on your
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side, Jim, how you feelingwell? First of all, Greg,
I've been there, and I thinkjust the best way to summarize these events
of yesterday as you're really looking forwardto when the Chicago Bears begin their season
and start playing football. They mighthave might start next week. We have
to wait and see, hope.As as as for the Jets, you
know, like optimism is not afamiliar feeling, and I kind of I
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might be having an allergic reaction toit. You know, I've been I've
been at It's been absent from myfootball life for so long. Also,
just having been a Jets fan forthis long, you can go through on
paper, you can look at,Wow, they've got Aaron Rodgers Hall of
fame, assured quarterback with a chipon his shoulder who wants to prove that
he's not old and tired and thathe's got fire in his eyes. And
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so far he's been a model citizensince coming to the Jets. Everybody in
the line seems healthy. Garrett Wilsonlooks set for a breakout season Rookie of
the Year. The team is loadedup in talent. The defense was really
good last year. They've been They'vegot everybody they want to have all across
the roster. And if you're aJets fan, you're just feeling this feeling
of it. Well, now's whenthe bottom falls out. Now is when
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the other shoe will drop. Somethingterrible is going to happen. I don't
know if it's a terrible injury.I don't know if somebody's going to suddenly
not play very well, or whethera meteorite is going to hit the stadium
tonight. I hope it's not thecase, but something's going to go wrong,
and I'm just bracing myself for it. I just want to point out,
like you know, now, fortysome years of being a Jets fan
have prepared me to not look atgood things coming down the pike and just
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say, Okay, this seems good, but something's gonna go wrong. I
just haven't figured to doubt yet.Well, we will certainly see. But
let me ask you this, becausethe last time the Jets were in the
playoffs and the last time the Bearswant a playoff game was our first year
doing the podcast. So if theJets greg, what if it was us?
Oh my god, I'm gonna stopthis podcast. Sorry, Sorry,
everybody. This is the last editionof three Martini. If the Jets are
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good, if they meet expectations,if they win the division, if they
even just make a deep playoff run, are you going to be a gracious
winner or are you going to beI have, you know, probably forty
some years worth of gloating that havebeen suppressed. No. The irony is
is that after a while, youhave enough fans who are friends who are
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fans of other teams. I have, you know, my brother married into
a family of Giants fans. Soas much as terrible as last night was
for the Giants, I do somethinglike, oh boy, there's some Giants
fans who are feeling really disappointed thismorning. You and the Bears, I
know, Colts fans. I knowCommanders fans, I know you know,
fans of very They're a handful ofteams I simply cannot abide. Sorry,
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Cowboys fans, you've always been insufferablefor the entirety of my lifetime. Do
England Patriots fans, You've had enoughchampionships. I will never sympathize. You
know, there go And Miami isalways kind of stuck in my crawl.
Miami is that team that is alwaysone year away from breaking out. They're
going to be great this year,and most years they are not nearly as
good as the hype, but mostNow I've reached a point where, like,
you know, when when when theteam I you know, the other
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teams win, I'm like, Okay, I know at least one person who's
gonna be feeling good, and I'mhappy for them. But I think it's
it's a long overdue that everyone washappy for me. Time will tell.
All the pieces could well be inplace, so we will see starting tonight,
Jim, enjoy the game. We'lltalk to you tomorrow. See tomorrow,
Greg, Jim Garretty, National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of Radio America.
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Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of
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very glad you're with us for theMonday edition of the Three Martini Lunch.
It's also exactly twenty two years todaysince the nine to eleven attacks that
changed this nation in so many ways. And as people who are old enough
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to remember that day go through it, they're remembering it was a beautiful sunny
day like this, and then theirworld was absolutely shattered in a number of
ways. If you lived in thelocal areas where the attacks happened, you
certainly have vivid memories of wondering ifpeople that you lived near or worked with
were at those sites or on thoseplanes. If you've had the chance in
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more recent years to go to thememorial sites where at the Pentagon New York
City or in Pennsylvania, which myfamily did last year in Pennsylvania. We've
also been to the Pentagon, haven'tbeen in New York City for that memorially,
yet it's a stirring sight. It'sit was more emotional than I expected.
As I explained last year when wewent there and Jim for those of
us who are now getting a littlebit longer in the tooth, and we
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realized that there are anybody under twentyfive, twenty six now already in this
country doesn't remember that day. It'skind of hard to process. It's kind
of like our parents not realizing thatwe don't have any concept to the Kennedy
assassination or something like that. Butit's it's a day that while if you
want to make it a day ofservice, you can, it's mainly a
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day of remembrance and remembering those whorisked their lives and unfortunately many who gave
their lives to save people they didn'teven know. You know, Greg,
last night, I was scrolling throughYouTube and something about the algorithm. I
don't remember searching for anything relating tonine to eleven, but it brought up
video of the live broadcast, andit clearly was something that had been taped.
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It was not one of the replaysthat MSNBC used to do to its
credit for about a decade or soafter the attacks. And apparently Matt Lower,
a figure who we all feel prettydifferently about now, was interviewing an
author of a book about Howard Hughes. And the first thing is it almost
feels painful to watch that and knowinglike one era was about to come to
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an end, that these were thelast moments of normalcy before the world just
turned upside down. Everything had beenchanged, and the other things you usually
watch, you know, the coverageof that day you watch, you know
what things were like in September twothousand and one. You know, depending
on your age, it is alifetime ago. It is a really long
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time ago, and I don't Oneof the things that I take a certain
amount of solos or pride from isthat for a lot of people nine to
eleven, September eleventh comes and goes, and maybe hopefully they pause, hopefully
they remember, maybe they go toa memorial ceremony or something. But like
that, it isn't a terrifying day. We're not worried about attacks on the
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anniversary. We don't spend a lotof time thinking about al Qaida. They're
still out there, some riff raffAlkaida, and the Arabian Peninsula is still
kicking around. Isis came and went. We don't worry about Islamist terror as
much as we used to. We'vehad all kinds of other problems come along
COVID, We've had, you know, domestic extremists, smash shooters. You
know, there there are things tofear in this world, but we don't
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live in fear. And I feellike to the extent America can win a
war on terror. That's it.That we don't live in fear of terrorism
nearly as much as we used to. Maybe maybe too little. Maybe we
don't worry about it as much aswe should. Hopefully I'm going to knock
on wood and say a prayer aboutthat and hopefully things turn out okay.
But yeah, it is kind ofstrange when this date comes on the calendar
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and the degree to which you canfeel sort of normal. Kids went off
to school this morning, Missus Garrettywent off to work. We all,
we all kind of go about ourdays and just you know, on September
twelfth, it was very hard toimagine there would ever be a day when
September eleventh might feel as normal asit does in our family. That was
my grandmother's birthday. She passed awaybefore the nine to eleven attacks, but
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that was always a really happy day. And then of course nine to eleven
became a tragic day for our nation, and then a couple of years after
that, my brother got married onnine to eleven. So it's always been
a day that was significant in ourfamily, but for a nation, it's
a day for remembrance and a timethat we're probably as united as we're going
to be in the rest of ourlifetimes. Sadly, our opening Martini actually
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deals with nine to eleven USA today, with the story a full two decades
after their capture. The US MilitaryCommission trial of the Century against the five
accused leaders of the nine to elevenattacks appeared finally back on track earlier this
year. Then came another delay inpre trial hearings this past July, and
in August, a bombshell, theDepartment of Defense disclosed that prosecutors in its
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Office of Military Commissions are considering aplea deal to spare the lives of self
admitted plot mastermind College Mohammed, andfour alleged accomplices in exchange for admissions of
guilt in the attacks that killed nearlythree thousand people twenty two years ago.
Today, no pre trial agreement hasbeen finalized and may never be finalized.
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With the five men held at theUS prison complex at Guantanamo Bay, but
this letter from the Office of MilitaryCommissions alerting that this is possible did not
go overwhelm. Terry Strada, representativeof many nine to eleven families, said
the possibility of such a plea agreementas just the latest and probably the biggest
slap in the face yet for thosedemanding answers and accountability for al Qaeda's suicide
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hijackings. Jim, sometimes you know, death penalty threats are removed in exchange
for guilty please, which is allegedlythe premise here, but it says self
admitted plot mastermind. He was braggingabout it before we caught him. There's
been no denial since then. He'sbeen extremely uncooperative since then. It's been
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more than two decades. I thinkwe know what he did. I think
he's probably at this point cut offfor most of the people he could be
os, so there's not much morewe can get out of him. I
think we know it comes next.Yeah, I mean, like, whether
your perspective is that Kaleg shik Mohammedshould die and should die preferably very quickly
because as a result of his actions, or whether you're a steadfast opponent of
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the death penalty, and you believethat the US government should never execute anyone,
even someone as horrific and terrible andevil as College shik Mohammed. I
think all Americans can be a littlebit embarrassed, a little bit frustrated that
it's been more than two decades andwe're still we haven't ant of the trial
yet, we're still debating how wewant to hold a trial and all of
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these processes. And also I cansee people kind of wondering, like,
what, you know, when theguy has admitted it, there's no question
that we've mixed him up with someother College shik Mohammed. There's no other
you know, Like, the guiltis pretty clear, it's pretty straightforward.
He's admitted it, he's proud ofit. He doesn't have the slightest bit
of shame or remorse. What arewe waiting on here? What is what
is the what is left to debateor discuss or to hold to discuss at
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this trial? So that's that isthe first and most pre eminent problem.
The second thing is that if youdon't apply the death penalty to College shik
Mohammad, who has the blood ofmore than three thousand Americans on his hands.
When would you ever apply it.I mean, we can point out
that the nine to eleven hijackers werekilled immediately in the attacks. We can
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point out that Osama bin Laden iscurrently fish food the bottom of the Indian
Ocean somewhere, and many other AlQaeda operatives and senior officials and all of
that have been killed in the twentysome years of the War on Terror.
But there's this question, what doyou want to do with this guy?
And I almost would like, Ialmost would feel comfortable with either decision.
If America made the decision, ifthe attitude was, look, you've your
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actions completely warrant the death penalty,we find you guilty, and now you
will go to execution, or ifour attitude was, you know, we
will not kill executed prisoners. Iknow, for example, the Central Intelligence
Agency officially opposes the death penalty foreveryone who's captured, even the most worse,
because the dead men tell no tales, and that do you never know
when someone after many years, we'llstart talking and we'll start offering useful information.
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I don't think it's necessarily going tohappen. From galich Chick Mohammad.
But I can respect that position.I can respect that philosophy towards that,
and I also respect people who,either for reasons of religious faith or just
other their perspective on morality, believethat they just don't trust the state with
the power to kill people, evensomeone is abominable Askalie Chick Mohammad. I
remember a poll about Timothy McVeigh foundthat something like close to half of all
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self identified death penalty opponents supported thedeath penalty for him for what he did
in the Oklahoma City a bombing.So I understand people have different perspectives on
this. But the fact that weare now twenty two years since nine to
eleven Kalie Chick Mohammed was captured inlate two thousand and one, I want
to say, early two thousand andtwo, and he's been in US custody
for more than twenty years, andwe still haven't reached this kind of decision.
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There's a deeply frustrating point, andit's very easy to understand why the
nine to eleven families would be upsetby the possibility of taking the death penalty
off the table. No, absolutelyright, and like it said, they
may never even get a pre trialagreement. So we've been just sit in
this limbo forever. Who knows,but obviously it hasn't been a huge priority
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to get this underway. All right, onto our second martini, now,
also a bad martini. One ofthe things that we cherish in this country
is freedom. It's one of thethings that George W. Bush and others
told us that the terrors hated inour country. But one of the things
we cherish in our constitution, mostespecially in our Bill of Rights, but
all freedoms that we enjoy in ourour constitution. We don't really like it
(09:48):
when politicians say that they're going totake it away from us only for a
little time. Though, Jim,you, what have you heard that you're
going to take away your liberties foronly only a little bit of time,
maybe like two weeks or something.Oh, this time it's going to be
thirty. Michelle Leuhan Grisham, sheis the Democratic governor of New Mexico,
and they've been dealing, like manyother parts of the country, with rises
in violent crime. They love theterm gun violence, like the guns just
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do it by themselves. But there'sa lot of violence happening. People are
using guns to commit it, andso she's decided that the way to stop
criminals from committing violent crime is toban people from having guns in public,
whether open carry or concealed carry.Well, we can certainly talk about the
logic of that in a moment,or the lack thereof, But there's also
the issue of the constitutionality, whichone of the reporters in New Mexico finally
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got around too, and like anyloquacious lib she finally got around to twisting
this in a way that actually protectspeople's rights. Jim, take a listen
to Governor Luhan Grisham. Here tothe constitution, isn't unconstitutional to say you
cannot exercise you carry license with oneexception, and that is, if there's
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an emergency and I've declared an emergencyfor a temporary amount of time, I
can invoke additional powers. No constitutionalright, in my view, including my
oath, is intended to be absolute. There are restrictions on free speech,
there are restrictions on my freedoms inthis emergency. This eleven year old and
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all these parents who have lost allthese children, they deserve my attention to
have the debate about whether or notin an emergency, we can create a
safer environment, because what about theirconstitutional rights? I took an oath to
uphold those two And if we ignorethis growing problem without being bold, I've
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said to every other New Mexican,your rights are subrogated to theirs. I
got your rights for a little while. Jim, we need to be bold.
I'm not sure that's what was inthe Federalist papers. But what do
you make of Governor grishav in theblowbact? She's getting you, Greg,
I'm going to try really hard notto drop any F bombs in this answer,
but I want to. I don'twant to hear another damn thing from
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a single Democrat talking about Donald Trumpbeing a threat to the constitution, a
threat to the rule of law,an autocrat, an authoritarian, or I
got some guy running around who believesthat because of his whim the laws should
just be changed. It on dime, because that's what she's doing right here.
My colleagues over in the corner arediscussing about whether the governor should be
(12:26):
arrested. I think this is undoubtedlylike, if you're a New Mexico Republican,
you should be beginning impeachment proceedings yesterday, and I don't care if you're
the minority of the state legislature,you introduced those articles. You make that
argument that this is an explicit violationof her oath, Like she doesn't just
take an oath to preserve, protecting, defend the state constitution. All US
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lawmakers have taken, you know,either explicitly or implicially, take an oath
to preserve, protecting, defend theUS Constitution. And you do not get
to suspend laws on the books anda constitutional right willy nilly because you've decided
it's time for a debate. No, it's not. That's Kevin Williamson once
said. Everything that's in the Billof Rights is everything that is so important
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that you the people don't get tovote on it. You can't vote to
suspend free speech. You can't voteto suspend the Second Amendment. If you
want to change the Constitution, youhave to go through the amendment process.
You want to try repealing the SecondAmendment, you go right ahead and try
that. You're not going to getvery far, but I will you know
that that is the way this processis supposed to work. You're not supposed
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to just decide, oh, youknow what, I see an opportunity here.
I feel like that there shouldn't beSecond Amendment rights in Mexico. So
I'm going to do that. Thoselaws on the books in New Mexico,
you could repeal them, there's awhole process for that, but that would
be too hard. So she's decidingthat as governor she can utilaterally decide those
laws we did over concealed carry andopen carry. They don't exist anymore.
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I am hand waving them away.Dang it. That is not the way
this country works. This is notby the way, if you think that
there's real danger of Republicans turning fascistand that this is going to be some
you know, the democracy is onthe ballot in twenty twenty twenty four,
what the hell are you doing tryingsomething like this. This, This is
basically communicating to everybody in the stateand really the rest of the country.
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I the governor of New Mexico,don't really believe in the constitution. When
it gets inconvenient, I'm just gonnawave my magic wand and say it doesn't
it doesn't count anymore, and I'mgoing to suspend the laws. And if
you don't think the other side isn'tgoing to try to do that. And
if you don't think every single power, mad, you know, ambitious,
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hungry politician in the country isn't goingto look at this and say, ooh,
if she can do this, Ican do this too, then you're
unbelievably naively optimistic. We know,this is the line in the sand.
Either. You don't get to justsuddenly the side. Yeah, I find
that part of the Constitution inconvenient,So I'm going to hand wave it away
for the next thirty days. Youdon't get to do that. This is
gonna end up with terrible consequences downthe road. But I hope, I
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hope she enjoys the press release.I hope she's enjoying, you know,
the attention she's getting. Jim extremelywell said, extremely well said. And
the whole point of the Constitution,of course, is that these principles are
in place regardless of what's going on. It's not like, oh, well,
if everything is a hunky dory,we can abide by these provisions in
the Bill of Rights, but theminute we've got a problem, we can
just move them around or suspend them. No, it's completely opposite to how
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things work. That's why we havedivided government. The legislature makes the laws.
Your job is to enforce them,not pick and choose. And I
could not have said it better thanyou didn't. Extremely well done. All
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Jim onto our last Martin, butit's actually our good Martini today and
that's right here in Virginia. WhereGovernor Glen Younkin was on Fox News Sunday
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yesterday was Shannon Bream. And oneof the issues that Shannon Bream brought up
was an issue that I would saycertainly contributed to the election of Glen Youngcan
in twenty twenty one. It wasfrom Loudon County. There were parents protesting
a lot of things about the schoolboard there, from critical race theory to
gender identity theory and a lot ofother things masks at that time. And
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then another thing that happened was thata girl was sexually assaulted in a bathroom
by a boy who was identifying asa female, and so he was allowed
into that restroom. The dad,understandably was very upset at the meeting.
He was arrested for trying to breakthrough people restraining him and so forth.
His name is Scott Smith, andso yesterday Shannon Bream was saying that,
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you know, Scott Smith apparently isstill facing one more charge here and he's
looking for a little help from you. I don't know if Shannon breem halready
knew this, but Glennyukin brought somehelp with him. He expressed frustration this
summer when he found out he wasgoing to have to face trial this fall
on a remaining charge. He said, I have yet to hear from our
governor, Glen Yunkin, is youradministration in contact with him about his case.
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We are in contact with him,and in fact I spoke with mister
Smith on Friday and I had theprivilege of telling mister Smith that I would
pardon him, and we did thaton Friday. We right it or wrong,
he should have never been prosecuted here. This was a dad standing up
for his daughter and just to remindeveryone, his daughter had been sexually assaulted
in the bathroom of a school andno one was doing anything about it.
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And in fact, it took theelection of a new governor. Me and
my directive to our Attorney General,Jason Mere is to investigate this, to
uncover the fact that the superintendent hadin fact covered it up, and he
was immediately terminated when the final reportfrom the grand jury was issued. Mister
Smith did what any father would do, what any parent would do, was
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stand up for their child. Andeven worse, what then happened was the
perpetrator was moved to another school andsexually assaulted another young woman. And so
I think Jim, based on thecoverage we did of the story, and
I think was the Daily Wire whooriginally broke that story, So hats off
to them. This is a prettycommon sense move here. Meanwhile, Democrats,
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at least not all of them,don't see it that way. State
Senator Scott Servel tweeting out yesterday GlennYoungins all about law and order until he
can use a pardon to help hisfailing presidential ambitions or try to change the
campaign focus from taking away women's rightsto his billionaire funded mission to destroy and
privatize schools. So I think weknow who's actually trying to distract from the
actual story here. But when youmake of Youngkin's actions and the fact that
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even this is controversial, Greg,my mind is bockled by the fact that
Virginia elected Democrats look at the iratedad over his you know, just furious
over his daughter being sexually assaulted,being just eruptive at a school board meeting,
and now they want to get toughon crime. Now they're all law
on order. We found the villainin this story, all right. It's
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not it's not the kid who's assaultingpeople. No, no, it's not
the administrators covering it up. It'sthe dad who got just too darn mad
and disruptive at the school board meeting. Now lots of people get removed from
school board meetings, town council meetings, county council. You know, like
it's you know, it does it'snot doesn't happen all the time, but
it's not that rare and not alwaysa case where you have to press charges.
Most of the time. You know, security guard escorts you out.
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You know, you've you've learned yourlesson, you got it. You know.
I'm not saying that any kind ofbehavior at these sorts of meetings is
acceptable, but it's really easy tounderstand where Scott Smith was coming from.
It's very easy to relate. Ithink every parent looks at that. Here's
about that. I thinks, ohmy god, if something like that happened
to my child, I would beBruce Banner turning into the helk. I
would just be you know, besidemyself with rage and you know, spitting
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hot fire at the school administrators whowould let something like that happen. You
know, Scott Smith is not thevillain in this story. You know,
did he possibly get was he possiblytoo disruptive that he had to be okay,
all right, it happens. It'sunderstandable, it's relatable. You do
need to keep order, you doneed to keep it's an acceptable level of
discourse at a school board meeting orsomething like that. But again, if
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you've got a heart, you canunderstand why this guy feels this way.
Apparently these you know, state legislators, and apparently the Commonwealth Attorney for Loudon
County also doesn't have a heart,because she too is denouncing this as a
political stunt and unprecedented, inappropriate interventionand actively like every pardon is an intervention
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in an active legal case. Andthe idea that this, you know,
like, the only reason this isa politically winning issue is because these Democrats
were so stupid in the way theyreacted to an outrageous set of circumstances at
a public school. And so goodfor you, Governor jun Ken. It
is a refreshing breath of the breathof fresh air to have a governor who
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does the right thing in this circumstance. And I would point out,
like, yes, he's doing thison Fox News Sunday and all okay,
but this would be a very easyissue to demagogue, and he's you know,
he's simply calling him as he seehim. I thinks, I don't
see him running ads based on this. I don't see him, you know,
hosting, you know, like ScottThomas Smith suddenly turning into the next
big speaker at Sea Packer or something. Some things are really terrible and we
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don't need to turn them into apolitical football. That having been said,
we have every reason to be lividwith these school administrators and school board members
who reacted this way. Scott Smithis not the villain of this story,
and it's absurd that our legal systemdid. And it strongly appears like this
prosecution because most people don't get prosecutedfor something this severely. It certainly looks
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like he was. Real crime wasembarrassing democratic state lawmakers, exactly Democrats who
are completely on the wrong side ofthis issue two years ago, and it's
obvious from their reaction here that they'velearned absolutely nothing. So if this does
become a political issue this year,it's their own fault. Glennie I can
clearly do on the right thing here, And at this point I don't think
he's running for president. I mean, the rumor is that he's waiting to
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see how the midterms turned out inVirginia. But by then year, in
early to mid November, and that'sreally really late to get in to the
presidential race all right, real quicklybefore we had out, Jim. Yesterday
was the main opening day for theNFL season. Of course, it started
last Thursday with the Lions actually beatingthe Chiefs. Yesterday a number of games.
The Bears, unfortunately, were themarquee game in the late afternoon against
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the Packers. They lost thirty eightto twenty. I did not grab any
clips from coach Eberfloss, but Idid grab this one from Jim Mora back
in the nineties when he was coachingthe Saints that I think sums up the
Bears day pretty well. We couldn'tdo diddly pooh offensively. We couldn't make
a first down. We couldn't runthe ball, we didn't try to run
the ball. We couldn't complete apass. We sucked the second half.
(23:48):
We sucked. Yeah, So Iended up watching some of the US Open
in the second half when it wasno longer competitive. So if we thought
that just exporting Aaron Rodgers to theJam was going to get it done,
there's a lot more work to do. Both the offensive and defensive line.
Still, stink Fields did not havemuch time, and even when he did,
he wasn't as sharp as he probablyshould have been, so we're probably
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looking another long season. Although Idon't want to read too much into one
game, it's possible to Packers,who do have a really good defensive line
might actually be just fine without AaronRodgers. But speaking of him, he
debuts tonight for your beloved New YorkJets Monday night football against the Bills.
Should be a good game. Nowthat you've got expectations very much on your
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side, Jim, how you feelingwell? First of all, Greg,
I've been there, and I thinkjust the best way to summarize these events
of yesterday as you're really looking forwardto when the Chicago Bears begin their season
and start playing football. They mighthave might start next week. We have
to wait and see, hope.As as as for the Jets, you
know, like optimism is not afamiliar feeling, and I kind of I
(24:56):
might be having an allergic reaction toit. You know, I've been I've
been at It's been absent from myfootball life for so long. Also,
just having been a Jets fan forthis long, you can go through on
paper, you can look at,Wow, they've got Aaron Rodgers Hall of
fame, assured quarterback with a chipon his shoulder who wants to prove that
he's not old and tired and thathe's got fire in his eyes. And
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so far he's been a model citizensince coming to the Jets. Everybody in
the line seems healthy. Garrett Wilsonlooks set for a breakout season Rookie of
the Year. The team is loadedup in talent. The defense was really
good last year. They've been They'vegot everybody they want to have all across
the roster. And if you're aJets fan, you're just feeling this feeling
of it. Well, now's whenthe bottom falls out. Now is when
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the other shoe will drop. Somethingterrible is going to happen. I don't
know if it's a terrible injury.I don't know if somebody's going to suddenly
not play very well, or whethera meteorite is going to hit the stadium
tonight. I hope it's not thecase, but something's going to go wrong,
and I'm just bracing myself for it. I just want to point out,
like you know, now, fortysome years of being a Jets fan
have prepared me to not look atgood things coming down the pike and just
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say, Okay, this seems good, but something's gonna go wrong. I
just haven't figured to doubt yet.Well, we will certainly see. But
let me ask you this, becausethe last time the Jets were in the
playoffs and the last time the Bearswant a playoff game was our first year
doing the podcast. So if theJets greg, what if it was us?
Oh my god, I'm gonna stopthis podcast. Sorry, Sorry,
everybody. This is the last editionof three Martini. If the Jets are
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good, if they meet expectations,if they win the division, if they
even just make a deep playoff run, are you going to be a gracious
winner or are you going to beI have, you know, probably forty
some years worth of gloating that havebeen suppressed. No. The irony is
is that after a while, youhave enough fans who are friends who are
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fans of other teams. I have, you know, my brother married into
a family of Giants fans. Soas much as terrible as last night was
for the Giants, I do somethinglike, oh boy, there's some Giants
fans who are feeling really disappointed thismorning. You and the Bears, I
know, Colts fans. I knowCommanders fans, I know you know,
fans of very They're a handful ofteams I simply cannot abide. Sorry,
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Cowboys fans, you've always been insufferablefor the entirety of my lifetime. Do
England Patriots fans, You've had enoughchampionships. I will never sympathize. You
know, there go And Miami isalways kind of stuck in my crawl.
Miami is that team that is alwaysone year away from breaking out. They're
going to be great this year,and most years they are not nearly as
good as the hype, but mostNow I've reached a point where, like,
you know, when when when theteam I you know, the other
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teams win, I'm like, Okay, I know at least one person who's
gonna be feeling good, and I'mhappy for them. But I think it's
it's a long overdue that everyone washappy for me. Time will tell.
All the pieces could well be inplace, so we will see starting tonight,
Jim, enjoy the game. We'lltalk to you tomorrow. See tomorrow,
Greg, Jim Garretty, National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of Radio America.
Thanks so much for being with ustoday. Please subscribe to the podcast
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