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Good day, good night, Welcomeback to the Five Ring Poncast or
welcome to the Family's Poncast. I'mKevin Laramie joined by Dwayne Rowland as always,
as we break down our Olympic experienceDay two and Day three. Welcome
back to Day three after the break. Later in the show, we'll give
our medals for day two. Firstto start with Dwayne, how are you

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today? I'm doing well, youknow, sleepers for the week. That's
what I'm saying here. That's stickwith that story and we'll move forward.
Thank you Olympic Games in Asia forreally throwing our Arcadian cycle for a loop.
All right, let's go ahead,Yeah exactly. I might eating cycle.
I don't know what's the launch,what's dinner, But it's fine.

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You know what's great. I knowyou're not a coffee guy, but for
me, I could not go throughthis with coffee. If there is a
very good coffee sponsor, I couldbe a really good spokesperson for you.
Right now, I'm more of thecold drinks with the caffeine, and it
is what I how I consume becauseI'm a man of my generation where pop
was all we drank. But anyway, yeah, it's it's you need a
little caffeine to get it, howeveryou catch exactly to get through the hard

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life that it is to watch Olympicsan Olympic game, Day two and day
three here as we took a littletime Sunday to restart our Circadian random the
proper way, Let's talk about daytwo and we'll get back to day three,
and of course you're going to meldthe bit in our minds. It's
sometimes hard to differ injury which oneis Day two, day three, especially

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when we don't do a show todetermine the beginning and the end of each
day. So we're going to talkabout day two to begin with. And
I'll start by my wooden medal today. We started with you yesterday. We'll
start with me today and my Woodenmedal for day two, and that has
been resolved since then. We'll talkabout it later. But the men's downhill

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on day two, I was reallygetting excited. It was early in the
evening. I was like, allright, this is day two. I'm
ready for it. I've got mycoffee. It's it's about eight pm at
night. Everything it's about to getready. And then I watched television and
they tell me that unfortunately, dueto high winds, we will not have

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a men's downhill. And that's mywooden medal. It is a tradition here
on The Fiber's podcast that I gavea wooden medal to Mother Nature once a
year, because usually once an Olympic, at least a downhill of some sort
or a skiing event of some sortis postponed. We actually got it in
the summer this time too. Thetraath one, if you remember back to

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the Fiber in summer coverage was postponedbecause of basically a typhoon or through through
age. So it's a good it'sa good reason too, but spone your
marathon because what if someone's laughs andthe typhoon comes and with the big wave
you're from last to first, youknow, never enu it was. It's
a tough one though. The weatheryou can't control, of course, other
than you know, selecting where you'regonna go in the first place and understand

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what the weather patterns are. Wecould talk to the fee for world couple,
but as a surprise surprise in November. Yeah, it's gonna be November
now um at any rate. Butyeah, no, that's its tradition that
the men's downhill, which is usuallythe what starts sale plane events, gets
postponed, so it rarely stops startsscalepline events these days. But it's been
like, it's a pretty menu I'llsay that about the hill up there mountain,

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I suppose it is. It's quiteattractive. But I was watching the
We're trying Salom this morning when misJohn Salom. There's a lot of people
going out. I think there's thatsnow is causing problems up there. In
terms of the man made out elementof it, it's very hard. There's
a hard fallen woman's Grander Giants longtoday as well that unfortunately we're not sure
how she's doing now, but shewas stretchered off. So yeah, yeah,

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yes, it's pretty dangerous sometimes.Yeah, well it's always dangerous.
That sport in its own you forgetlike it's the original, Uh, it's
the original extreme sport, right becausewhen we think about the downhill, we
think about our experience with the downhill, and the camera does not do it
justice. If you would see whata real downhill course looks like and you

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have to go straight down, yeah, you would really be scared, because
I was. I was scared.I've tried to do that and now there's
no way I have to go leftor right. You need very horizontal fashion,
not vertical like they do. Um. Yeah, anyone who's skied like
I mean, you go to thedouble diamonds. It's imagine a double diamond
that goes, you know, forever, first of all, higher than the

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Statue of Liberty, the Empire Steadbuilding and another building combined, which is
pretty like I said. I thinkI said the other day that I'm a
decent skier. But it's it's,you know, a double diamond is not
something you take too lightly right,It's you want to make sure that you're
you're doing it right, and it'sit's it's a scary sort of situation,

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as they say, the original extremesport. But yeah, the whether you
can't control it did get off today. Well we'll wait for the second half.
I don't know whether you're having inthe medals or not, but boy,
I did have a I did wantit to talk about it at some
point, So all right, let'sgo for your a Wood medal for d
number two. All right, ifyou listen to soccer today, you know
how much I love var. Well, it's just my favorite thing ever,
the constant nick picky look at theback and end to look at everything closely

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in terms of reviewing plays. ButI didn't think it would creep into my
Olympic watching. But then I forgotcompletely about short track speed skating and how
many times you have to stop andlook and look and you don't know what
they're looking at exactly after certain twinson my bronze medal is what I'm calling
short track var Now, I'm notI'm not actually blaming the decisions. I
don't know the sport as detailed enoughas I should to or as I could

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to make a statement on whether they'remaking the right calls. But what I
will say is that it's just it'stedious to have to stop all the time.
And I get it, but it'sstill just tedious to watch constantly.
And we're watching the short track playerthis morning in the thousand meter final we'll
get to that and start and halfmaybe, but a thousand meter final was
just outrageous. It was like aplush and a bloody tackle. So Duyne's

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Wooden Medal given to Vaar Video Assistantrefereeing in the short track world. Would
you know what? Not a badway to go about it. All right,
let's time to move to the foodportion of today's show. Let's move
to the Pootine Medal, Dwyane andnow I'll start with my Pootine medal for
day two. The Pootine Medal isgiven to our best Canadian performance or moment

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of the day, and for me, my favorite moment of the day was
one that left me in a placewhere I thought I was really dusty in
the room where I was maybe evena bit more of a emotional state where
it was kind of hard to keymrockand border. I was crying a little
bit when Justin's full lap Wints didher jump in the final of the moguls.

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And of course she's been really successfulover the last few years. She's
won medal in straight Olympics and thistime around she was doing her own in
the final. She did her firstjump, she landed, lost control and
landed heavily and missed a couple ofmoguls. It was really painful to watch.
It looked like she was hurt.She got back up, she asked
for a pole, she continued,She continued all the way down, and

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then she hugged to her sister.And she used to be on the podium
of the Olympic Games with her sisterand their three sisters, and they've gone
through a whole lot of emotional eventsover the last few years, from the
health of one of their parents,to all the way to a winning and
to bad injuries and to some ofthe sisters retiring. So a lot of
emotional moments were the great sisters andjustin fell but she thought it was really

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important to finish the race, andshe got back down and then she started
to talk to the camera and shewas saying, you know, I didn't
want to finish this race like that. I think it's important that people know
that when you fall down, yougot to get back up and you got
to finish, and it was importantand I want to see my sister,
and she was telling me that it'simportant that I come and see you and

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talk to you guys. And itwas such a beautiful moment and for Justin
full that point, who knows whatthe future holds. They're starting to be
really busy with their television career.Who knows if in four years time she
still will be competing, If thiswas her last Olympic moment, it was
one to remember, certainly. Yeah, And if you don't, they're they're

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quite famous, particularly back as youmentioned, but they were the darlings of
a few Olympics ago, so soabsolutely Canadian Olympic legends. There so a
legend in this particular case, andnot the best way to go out,
but sometimes those uh you know,um glory gloriful losses are more memorable than
the winds in some ways sometimes,So that's a good one there. Um.

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I'm gonna go with a different sortof track from my poutine. It
is a performance, uh not exactlya podium performance, but for a performance
that that was reaching the best potentialand taking the sport that he was involved
in up to a higher level thanit typically has been in this country.
And that's why I'm gonna go tothe ski jump. I know you like

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the ski jump, and I'm gonnaput McKenzie boy clothes uh, twelve placed
finish in the in the men's longor that was regular help. But it's
not a sport that we are particularlygood at in this In this country,
there's only one ski jump out inCalgary that exists for them to train at.
So it's it's a difficult sort ofsituation to bring it up. But

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there has been a little bit morefunding in there. There has been a
little bit more attention given in toit. And as much as twelfth place,
if you're not you know, ifyou're only metal focused, you might
not view that as particularly interesting good. But when you're typically in the past
finishing fiftieth or sixtieth and then youhave a twelfth place finish, that does
a lot of things down the line. It helps the entire program too,
because of the way we fund thingsin Canada. I've talked about it on

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the Party and I talked about onthe First Show, First Medal Show this
week about how it rewards success.So getting a top twelve finish in the
Olympics means you're gonna get a littlebit more money in Jackie in there,
it's gonna means that the next generationthat follows him up, he's still young,
so he probably has another Olympics,but next generation beyond him will also
get more opportunity because there's more moneyin the program now. So it's just

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it all all matters. And itwas a good performance and they did well
in the team event this morning too. It's on the metals for that for
me there, but also a decentperformance for them, especially for a country
like Canada that we're not known forour ski John Priwiz and I was watching
the team event, was it wason my first screen, so it was
maybe screen number two and the ideawas not on, but I was watching

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it when I was working on otherthings, and I was impressed by Canada's
result because we're not last and justbeing part of that team competition, having
a man, women and the olderresult combined was very important to see.
Also for the future of the sport. The ski jump on the woman's side,
it's really growing too, So no, it's it's a really good choice
that you've chosen there. Yeah,and the jumps get a couple more days

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of that and it's always fun towatch. As you say, talk about
extreme, everything in the Winner Gamesis an extreme sport. Let's just face
well exactly because we forget that whenyou follow at all. Sure, yeah,
yeah, ask it might not bean extreme sport, but Dwayne,
later on in the show, we'lltalk about how extreme precision sometimes is needed

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in that sport and maybe sometimes it'smissing, and you know it's none the
last time you'll hear us talk aboutski jump in today's show, even in
this portion. All right, Dwayne, So let's move to our bronze medals
for this day two. Day threewill come back after the break A two.
My bronze medal for a number twois Joannis Ludvig from Germany. Gold

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medal in the luge. Luge isone of my favorite sport to watch.
I don't know why I like watchinga sport filled with blades, ice and
man in spandex. For some reason'snot attracted to a Dwyane. Don't tell
my wife, I guess, Butto me, that's a really fun sport
and I really enjoy the subtleties ofcontrolling a louse. Like Bob said,

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is great. You're driven, toBob sade, but how you have to
shift your weight and your ankles toes, even how you move your nostrils,
what doesn't Because you have advisor.But it's so minute, the adjustment you
have on the luge itself and howyou're control and I always find it graceful
to see these athletes, these big, burly fat men, going down an

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ice sheet on two sharpened blades anduns. Caught my attention on dayy two
with a gold medal performance for Germany. The Germans are legendary and that on
all the sliding sports, but butin particular illusions. It's a big one
for them, and uh and yeah, that would be a huge gold medal
in that country and they continue thesuccess in there. I'm more of a

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skeleton guy. I think it's theidea that you're gonna throw yourself face first
down the mountain is even more absurdthan than on your back. But but
donetheless, it can be a lotof fun. You just say it's technical,
it's probably you're you know, you'reyou're an F one guy too.
I think you like the that kindof check. Yeah, I wro dynamic
aspect. Yeah, it's true.And the speaking of ski jump, I
just had a breaking news that we'lltalk about later in the show because it's

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alluding to day three, but it'salluding to Canada. And ski jump duing.
So I guess you can feel whereI'm going with it later. But
yeah, so that's my bronze medalfor day two. What is your bronze
medal for Day two? Day?Um, I'm gonna give a bronze medal
to the Chinese women's hockey team.Um, just in general their play this

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tournament has been really inspired. It'sbeen very good to watch and women's hockey
in this country over the last coupleof days. Is you know, there
was an infamous sort of article writtenin one of the biggest newspapers in the
country is saying that the sports shouldn'tbe in the Olympics basically because it wasn't
competitive enough in it. It quiterightly got ratioed, as the kids today
say, in terms of sort ofbeing a bit tone death. I mean,

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there is issues with competitive balance inthe sport. There's issues with competitive
balance in a lot of sports.And we talked with this a little earlier
in terms of how you know,one of the reasons that the competitive balance
is lacking on the women's side inmany sports is simply because they're not funded
properly around the world. So that'syou know, a chicken and an egg
thing there, right, But whenit comes to this tournament, I've actually
been quite entertaining and quite enjoying watchingthe lesser we'll call them, the less

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accomplished, less successful historic teams playbecause their game has stepped up and they're
playing with a passion and enjoy youknow, to chase six seventh place,
it matters to them those positions.And the Chinese they beat the Japanese two
to one, and on the daythat in that we're talking about here,
that was what caught my attention.I watched most of that game, and
uh, you know, it wasa big deal for them to get that

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resolved. It is a big dealfor them to get out there and put
that wind down into you know,there's not a lot of fans in the
stands, but there are some,so to win in front of their fans
is great. And look, they'vethey have some um, you know,
people that they've naturalized to sort ofmake this team a little stronger, but
it is primarily a team made upof you know, folks that born in

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China and had learned the sport,probably at a relatively late age for them
to be competing at the Olympics.I think is is it's great and hopefully
they can sustain that. M Godknows, the world of hockey needs more
countries competing at a higher level,so I hope that they can continue.
And uh, why would you talkabout day tree the three? I don't

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know why I say d tree becausethat would be like a plant. But
day three we'll talk about women's hockey. Also in my medal today will be
fun to watch and listen. Afterthe break, let's now move to my
silver. And my silver is abit on the funny side today, Dwayne,
I'm bringing it to something very different. And bear with me for a
second. If you are a Canadian, you will know who I'm talking about,

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because over the last few days duringthe Olympics, it's a commercial that
is basically everywhere. Jane and Iam talking about the Bell commercial with the
two technicians that are like, oh, they see a bob sleigh that can
you give me the sleigh? Andthe guys that no, it's a sled
and the woman like, oh,can you give us the sled? And

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the guys like makes a move withhis hands. Well, well, that
guy, which we can name thesled guy, the sled guy. I
used to work with him in therestaurant industry. He used to be a
host. I cannot say hostess,but he was a host at Montana's Burloke
in Oakville, Ontario in the lateadds when I was living and working on

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Ontario and day he was working withhim for a few days, and I
remember him talking about his dreams ofbecoming an actor and it happened. A
few years ago. I saw himpop up in one commercial that wasn't the
same as as this one. Butnow, like everyone sees this and I'm
like, wow, what a greatjob. Is really great delivery. But

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also I continue working on your dreamsbecause thirteen years after working in the restaurant
industry for a brief period of timeand being open of his dreams, well,
he put in the work and heis paying off. And congratulations,
the sled guy is getting my silvermedal for day two. Okay, fair

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enough. We have a connection withanother advertisement going on here too. This
one's funny if you're a long timelistener of me in the podcast. But
if you know the eggs commercial,that's not funny. Your pants are funny
that commercial. If you do,you do well anyway, that's Randy Thomas,
who was the original producer. It'scalled football. So there you go.
It's funny. Oh yeah, theold guy who's wearing has it away

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too high? Yeah yeah, yeah. But anyway, so the slag guy
is getting my silver for day two? Why not? There you go,
all right, it's at least itwasn't that. Maybe it was just a
reason to talk about the fact thatI used to work with him in Montanas
and in berlindon Oville. You know, ironically Montanas Montanas has a great veggie
burger. You wouldn't think so,but it's very, very underrated as a

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chain itself. One of my bestmeals I had living in Algario. What
that Mondada is to be good?There you go, Yeah, it's very
popular if you have been in Montanasanyway. Um, my silver medal is
uh. We sort of spoke tothe gent already, so we won't dwall
too much. You talked about theCanadian performance in it. I wanted to
give a had tip to Jakara Anthony, the gold medalist and the women's moguls
Um. It's interesting to me howNew Zealand in Australia I have really taken

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to the freestyle events, and thisis a country that doesn't have snow,
right, so it would make sensethat's some of the sports where you don't
need snow all of the time totrain they would perform well in Yeah,
and it speaks to the passion ofthat country for the Olympic movement, right
that they're they're finding a way sothat they can be part of Winter Games
even though they're not a winter country. So that's why I want to put

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that one forward and obviously a greatperformance to win the gold medal, and
another you know, continuing that traditionof success in the freestyle events, and
you'll see the Australians um, youknow, pipe up, you know,
in another similar events in the pipefor instance in um that might be one
that you see them in there aswell as well as the area also pretty
good at too, so so yeah, Aussie's success, you know, it's

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pretty impressive for a country that doesn'tget a lot of snow and ice to
be participating at the level they doin the snow and ice Games. Yeah,
you're absolutely right, all right,time for a gold medal for day
two and my gold medal goes toski jumper Ryo you Kobayashi of Japan,
who won his first gold medal.He's a he won world championships before,

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He've won a lot of competitions.You have ups and down of the last
four years. Did not perform wellat the last Olympics and was able to
turn things around and get his bestperformance ever at the Olympics. And that
is always impressive to me when someoneis able to not only perform, but
perform like they've never really did incompetition before. Able to translate the hard

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work in practice to translate that underthe bright lights and the five rings of
the Olympic Games, and able togive their best performance ever. Riyo Kobayashi
of Japan with a gold medal inski jump. Shout out to legend Camille
Stuck, who's going to retire afterthese Games. He was just off the

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podium on this one, but ashout out to him as a legend.
But this one's for the young one, Riyo you Kobayashi, and ski jump,
for some reason, is a sportreal longevity exists. We will continue
to see the young Japanese even battlingout with Canadians over the next few years,
and it's going to be a funtime because ski jump is more appreciated

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now than it never been before.And you know what, Dwayne, I've
been talking about this for three WinterOlympic Games. Now finally I'm not the
only one. I love myself someski jump. Fair fair enough. Though
we talked a little bit about skijump, We're gonna talk about it again
in a minute. So I'll justjump into my gold medal. And I'm
kind of doing a bit of asheet here, but it was from when

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we went off the air. I'mgoing to give the my gold medal for
since we last recorded a four thatDay three or day two, part of
me to the mixed release mixed relayshort track gold medal from the Chinese team.
Now Canada controversially got eliminated in this. We're not going to dwell not.
I already talked about the judging,but it is always nice to see
the first the host get their firstgold medal in any games. You know,

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say what you want about the politicsof China, and we have in
the past. So I'm not goingto be over the moon because I'm not
crazy about their politics, but I'mgoing to be happy for the athletes who
seem very excited, and short trackis always excited, and they realize are
incredibly chaotic, and it was afun way stressful to watch because like every
single turd could be like that.That's how I feel when I watched.

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First of all, my legs aretwitching when I watched or track because I
for some reason, I feel likeI need to turn to the left.
You feel that energy and the likethe fact that you know they're just one,
I guess, one false move awayfrom being over. Yeah, and
they're wearing like nice things that they'rewearing knives. Yeah, it's I know.

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Later on in DAG three there wasa blade that broke in the one
thousand meter final, and I wasthinking to myself, imagine if they didn't
notice, and that blade is there, and then someone just skates over it,
and then that blade just becomes thereborneand then it just slices something.
Yeah, there's well, there's beenfamous interest in US. But what was
the American the very good Americans,but to two Olympics out now detail or

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something maybe, Yes, that's whatI'm thinking of. He was badly caught
once in competition, quite famously.So it happens right like it's a it's
a it's an extreme sport anyway.That's my gold medal, the mixed relay,
which is also the first mixed eventin short treck history. Obviously,
the Elpia movement has made a bigscene about having added a bunch of mixed

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events this year, and you canunderstand why they're doing that, and it
is a way to get the femaleparticipation up and it's really fun. It's
compelling because there's their strategy involved,like it's it's really it's very interesting,
yes, exactly, and the women'sright too. For the first time,
there's more than fifty percent of femaleparticipation in these games. It's fifty three
percent of the athletes at the OlympicGames are our female, which is part

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of the effort that they have gonefor a while, and it wasn't too
many Olympics ago that that number wouldhave been around thirty percent. So so
that is something that they tried toaddress over the last decade and they have.
So you got to give credit whatfriends to do in that particular case,
that's very true. Which you havewrapped up our medals for day two,
we'll take a short break. We'llcatch our saliva once again and come

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com. Day three, Dwayne,we have continued our journey through Beijing.
Day two. It's in the books. D three is about to rap and

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we have our medals for D three. But there's a few talking points I
want to talk to you before wemove on. I talked about a breaking
news. It just happened Canada Jannibronze medal in this ski jump mixed team
event. Congratulations to Canada a medalin ski jump. Oh, it's a

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good time to be alive. Yeah, that's quite historic and as I mentioned
before earlier today in the show,that is going to be huge for their
funding. They've medaled in the Olympics, which means they're now going to get
to yea party. You know,you know the reason why why it's doing
well too. Guess what happened intwenty ten Canada had the Olympic Games,

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which meant there was new facilities forski jump built in the Whistler Black Lake.
If I'm a mistaking area Black,I don't know the Whistler area.
And since then and hopefully those infrastructuresand the result would indicate that they have
been used properly, which means usedto help athletes get better. And look

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at it, Canada medals in skijump and who knows, this might not
be the last medal Canada guests thisyear in ski jump. Never know,
And as you say, that's alldoes matter. We talked about that a
lot when we did five months weekly. We talked about hard benefits, and
a hard benefit, of course,is infrastructure improvement of a game. And
you'll see that, you know,you'll see increased funding too. It's kind

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of a hard benefit. So it'sall plays in and obviously the Vancouver Games
have been seminal for this country interms of its epic success. You you
know, I think I mentioned thisthe other day. Canada went from being
kind of happy to be there too, you know, ruthless in terms of
trying to get on the podium,to the point now I kind of missed
it in a way when we usedto only win five or six medals,
because the metals would seem a littlemore precious. Now bronze medal happened,

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you kind of yawning, go on, But imagine that, like hopeful missus
whiffs on the metal, they like, that's all right there the tenses and
back then, if you were like, and I'll use my famous analogy,
if you watched us for a longtime and you and you love what did
a few metal tests as we happened, I loot the games. The whole

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country is against you. Yeah,if you don't know that story. She
was the defending world championship World Shewas the two thousand and seven World hurdles
champion. Went into the two thousandand eight Olympics in Beijing, the last
summer Games there obviously, and uh, her event was like day I want
to say, like day eleven,day twelve. It was late and the
entire Olympics there was literally like acountdown on Canadian Recovery General six days to

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produce, like giving her the goldmedal, like almost before and even the
first and then I think it's thefirst race, right, the first qualifying,
like the first freaking fell out herface. Yeah, I mean world
champion. So that's let's be clearabout that. This was just what happens
in the hurdles sometimes. But yeah, it's it's when you have that much

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pressure, in that much hype.I can also use a I can use
a Winter Game of analogy, andI've told you that before. It's there,
Jeremy Witherspoon the same thing. You'relike, well, Javian, your
head did the Olympics. You're onyour mark, get set, that gun
goes off, face plants. Ibelieve he had trouble in a couple Olympics.
Two of memory serves, So yeah, I felt so bad. I'm

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like, oh no, you're justlike and then you're just watching it.
It's live. You're like, theother guy's gone. You're just there.
You're like, well, what doyou do? Do you get up and
start skating? You already like fiveseconds back? What do you do?
I yeah, it's it's well,you mentioned that earlier today when you fall
in the Olympics, what happened?So I mean exactly, it's how you

(29:07):
get back up. The glorious failuresare sometimes as as popular. I mean
there's the famous in La going allthe way about eighty four when the father
ran out in the track, whichthat wouldn't happen now. They probably get
tackled trying to get out there,but to help the athlete around. It's
it's look, it's these are humansand they have pressures, and you see
some athletes thrive under it and someathletes struggle with it. I think when

(29:30):
we talk about curling, I mighthaven't mentioned about that that exact thing in
a second. So well we cantalk about curling unless you have it in
when your medals. So I mean, is it when your medals? I
don't know I have yes or no, it is, but not exactly the
same. So that that's we mightas well talk about the candidate here.
Yeah, we can just talk aboutyou, right the mixed curling Canada mixed

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doubles A Rachel Holman and John Morris. For some reason, that Yale is
going to be stuck in imprinted inmy brain forever. Harder, John Harder,
John canna be stuck in my mindforever. Did you know that sometimes

(30:11):
an entire life's work can fit betweena millimeter? Yeah? Um, if
you didn't see this. Uh.The curling the final game of the round
robin, Canada needed to beat Italyto uh to advance to the playoffs.
There's only the four teams out ofa ten team m rad robin. Only

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the top four would advance to astraight semifinal final knockout, and Canada needed
to win. Now that look,they shouldn't have been in that position.
They should they shouldn't have lost Australia. Yeah. Well, they were inconsistent
all week in terms of their theirplay and I've been part of that.
Probably was they didn't have trials herein Canada. For that this was a
hand selected team. Now they weresupposed to have trials like this isn't they

(30:59):
canceled the trials. The trials werejust after the men's and women's right,
so it was a men's, women'sand the mixed doubles. And that's where
the Fifth Wave started in Canada.They were just as barely able to finish
their men and the women's trials andthen they're like, well it seems like
we're gonna hand pick the mixed doublesbecause we got to cancel this. O
Macron is here. Yeah, andlook, John Morris is the two two

(31:21):
tome champion UM, including the defendingchampion and the doubles h with Caitlyn Laws
who is going to be competing inforce for Jennifer Jones rank UM. So
they couldn't bring back the defending championsbecause because Caitlin was involved in the other
one and the Canadian Curling Association doesn'twant to double them up. Now we're
seeing other teams double them up thisyear too, so that's questionable whether they

(31:41):
might not just have Caitlyn come overand trying to decide it as a team.
And let's not against Rachel homcause rachelmeis a great curler. She's a
former world champion, she's a multipleScotties which is the Canaan Championship champion.
She's absolutely one of the top curlersin this country. UM. She had
represented Canada in the last Olympics andthat's probably where the thinking was. No,

(32:02):
she wasn't successful there either, Uand that was quite surprising for Candida
to not get a medal in theWinter Games on the women's side last time
in the fours, where they arethe heavy favorites in both right, like
every time they enter a competition they'rethe favorites. Um, not that they
don't lose occasionally, but Rachel momentas I ahead, No, I was
gonna go ahead. Yeah, Look, I'm gonna say this carefully because she

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is a champion, but she alsohas a reputation for sometimes over trying and
getting inside her own head, andI think there was a bit of that
happening. Um. I am alsoI'm saying this carefully as I said,
but that draw to when the it'sa tough shot for her that shouldn't have
been tough, and it got heavyon that on her throw got a little

(32:50):
heavy. She wasn't communicating on thesuite very well, normally a strength of
hers. It just at all thatmoment, which was they ended up the
metal. Sure they lost by buta millimeter. It shouldn't have been that
close and they shouldn't have been thatposition because as I said, you know
John Morris coaches Australia, they werethey had only won one other match all
week and they lose that game orB I would have put them in and

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then they have to beat the Italians, which you're which were undefeated, which
were eight and no at that pointin round robin. This was the last
game, and this was a latelast night, and you talk about the
communication, That's what my wife toldme. I watched the end of this
match with my wife, and mywife would she's not a sports aficionado,
she's not a curling expert, andshe was telling me that there seemed to

(33:35):
be a breakdown in the communication,unfortunately, and it wasn't swept in a
proper way to curl it enough toslow it down for it to be perfect
if it was heavy to begin with, is what I found in my research
when I was looking at this,because I'm not a curling expert either,
so I'm wondering where if all things. But you know, maybe the overthinking

(33:57):
of curling Canada too, and maybethat's not fair to say that of not
wanting to doubling up. Maybe thebest available athletes should be there, regardless
if they have three or two orone event at the Olympic Games. Yeah,
there's yeah, for sure. Imean I think that they got unlucky
with the trouser. I do believethat Canada needs to address them, to

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look seriously at how they select theirdoubles teams for the next Olympics, because
I think that it's the sport isprobably going to move closer and closer to
more specialist yep, yep. Iagree, because there's there's a whole lot
of differences and that's what actually iscompelling about. It feels more like regular
curling where not all sauces are perfect, right, It's it's more of a

(34:43):
chaotic where you see great moves likethat Italian almost triple exit move where you
sort of talk and that was sobeautiful and the stone almost came back.
It was so perfectly Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy. And the you'll you
rarely see those triple takeout or quadrupwill takeout even now and curling because they're

(35:07):
so good. The fact that theyhave auto place balls, AutoPlay stones,
and the fact that there's power playsand penalty kills and a couple of different
rules where you're not allowed to takestones out before a certain point of the
draw. Those things are kind ofbringing some chaos and it's kind of compelling

(35:29):
to watch. Yeah, well,the doubles game, I agree. I
am a curling fantas people know,um and I love the Force games.
But the best comparison I can giveif you're an international sports fewer you'll get
this. It's it's like T twentycricket versus task cricket, right that the
tradition game is the fours and itwill always have you know, the connoisseurs

(35:50):
will always love it. But whenyou're just talking about a general audience,
the doubles just just far more interestingto watch because it's, first off,
it's quicker, or it takes aboutan hour to play a game as opposed
to but two and a half toplay a Forrest game. It's two and
a half would be like at thetop level, like a really strategic game,
but it's it takes a long time. The scoring is least in the
in the Forst game because they're Thestrategy in there is to maintain control,

(36:14):
and you maintain control by keeping thehammer, by keeping the last rock.
So if they can't score two ormore, you're just not going to give
last rock up. And there aresome teams at the at the elite level
which have just mastered the ability toblank ends now, so you have like
the Scotties final last year starting atScotti is part of me. The Briar
final last year Men's Championship in Canadawas dull as dull as dishwater. It

(36:37):
was blank en after blank end.It was just horrible to watch. So
so that's something that they're trying toaddress too, and currently has over the
years added tweaks to the rules ofthe Force game to increase the scoring.
Like it used to be you couldremove rocks all the time. Now they
have rock rules in place that youjust like in the doubles, that you
have to keep them there. Um, I mean it was if you go

(36:59):
back to the eighties when I hearthe nineties early nineties when I first started
to watch this, like it wasyou could just clear anach rock could be
taken out at any time, andso they would take out all the rocks
and the one who had the hammerwhen one nothing, everything will end.
Yeah, it would just knock allthe drawer or all the guards off off
the top right like it was justit was pointless. That's so annoying.

(37:21):
You put a guard up guardless theygo down. You put as it was
a game of errors. Now thereused to be more errors back then because
they the curlers mort is good andthe brooms sucked. Then yeah, the
yellow brooms revolutionized everything. If youdon't know, is about twelve years ago.
Thirteen years ago and one company inventedone broom and one just broom surface

(37:45):
that was like revolutionary and so goodthat the teams that didn't have it would
lose. It would literally be thedeciding factor in games. And then since
then it's just been standardized. Wellyeah, like you remember this one suits
back in the summer games. Howthat changed everything to or exactly yeah,
very similar technology also because it's ait's a fabric that creates high friction points

(38:08):
and creates a high level of heatcompared to another point and the very microfabric
type of fabrics. And as Kevinsaid earlier, the I mean, if
you don't know the sport at all, it looks silly to you sometimes when
they're sweeping, like what's that evendoing? But what it's doing is quite
quite incredible. They can move therock of world class curler can can curl

(38:29):
a rock probably ten like two threeyards. They can move it or control
like hard versus fast, and that'sthat acasually said. The sweep wasn't there
with Rachel Holman wasn't communicating what washappening. You kept turing John Morris and
that while he was on in frontof it, sweeping, Rachel. I
need the line. Where's the line? Rachel? Tell me the line?
He was like his voice was cracking. He was so frustrated by it.

(38:50):
And that look, again, she'sa great curler, and she's very good
at the calls usually because that's yourstrength. She's a she's a skip in
her four games, so she knowsthe ice and she knows how to read
the play, and her strategy isvery good. But there's just something some
just some collected that point and itjust didn't work out for but but all
last and they were both like Ifelt so bad for them at the end,
and I feel bad for all thetime because she gets a lot of

(39:12):
flak for that, and she's she'sgot she's a very serious woman and on
the ice she doesn't look like she'shaving fun and that results to her sometimes
getting unfairly criticized as being mean orwhatever. You know, that's not gonna
that'sinitely gonna change right now. Andthat's the unfortunate part is her redemption story
does not have a satisfying end unfortunately, and that's kyl like where it is.

(39:34):
She's not retiring anytime soon. Shewill, she'll be back. It's
we'll see you never know. It'sbest. First of all, she's a
better skip, so if she'll beback is because she's a skip, and
until Jennifer Jones retires, it's goingto be hard to beat her. She
she did it once. But yeah, I mean, Jennifer Jones might retire
if she wins a gold medal,life her, but Kaitlyne Laws might take
over or something. Yeah, we'lllove to see yeh, well, we'll

(39:54):
see those, we'll I've lost totalk about them this week, so so
perhaps we'll move on now. Butyeah, it was very just pointing.
Um. But you know there's stilltwo more great games of that of the
Doubles to take place, the medalgames weeks night, so I'm sure we'll
be talking about it again to one. Yeah exactly. All right, let's
move on to our medals for daythree. Oh, let's you'll let you

(40:15):
start, Dwayne go with your woodmedal for date three. I'm calling it
mas gate. Um. If youmissed thus there was I guess you could
call it COVID Gate two. Idid miss it actually because I went to
bed at then thirty eight, soI will cover it. I was like,
wait, wait, I was lookingfor the score and I saw the
whole thing and I was like,oh, lee, I miss I missed
a good one. Yeah, ifyou did. Okay. For those that

(40:36):
did miss it, what happened isthe Canada and Russia were playing in the
second last game of the rod robinfor for both teams last night, and
uh, the game is supposed tostart at eleven ten Eastern time, and
it's just the Russian teams on theice, but there's no sign of the
Canadian team. It comes to findout that the Russians had not provided the
negative COVID test to the Canadian team, which is required by the rules of

(40:58):
the tournament that you have to doyour tests, your rapid tests, and
then you have to show them tothe other team. In Russia for whatever
reason, did not do this,and the Canadians were like, well,
we're not playing until we see thosethose tests. And look, you can
have all these COVID conversations if youwant. We're not debating the merits of
COVID testing or here, but they'rerequired by the rules. Russia didn't provide

(41:19):
them. Eventually, there was somekind of agreement that took place that Candida
said they would play the game ifthe Russians were the masks, the full
mask under their accolments. The Russianssaid, well, do that if you
do it as well. So that'swhat happened. They played a game with
no masks or with masks on,in which that's not ideal for an elite
athlete to be playing without a fullyou know, with a mask on them.

(41:44):
I mean you can get it,and it does sort of betray the
Sorry, I'm gonna be a littlepolitical here. If if you know,
elite hockey players can play an entiregame with a mask on, you can
probably go to the store with oneanyway. Alas, it's just was a
mess, and it had to dowith, you know, of the teams
just not following the rules. Iwas good ball. It has to do
with this particular team not following therules exactly. Well, we're talking about

(42:08):
the r oc here, which isthe country that shal not be named.
That is a very big country inEurope, and that country itself is under
a band because for almost a decadenow has failed to comply. Yeah,
and it takes it. It hurtsthemselves. I mean, I guess they

(42:30):
don't care because internal and like athome in the rock, they will say,
they will gas light and say thatall the things you're seeing aren't true
and we're the world's just jealous ofus, and they don't, you know,
they say stuff like that, whichis a load of you know what,
so at any rate day, butit does take away from their athletes
to do other remarkable things. Imean, I'm going to talk about a

(42:51):
rock athlete later on in this whodeserves to be talked about because of the
accomplishment that she had yesterday. Buteven those sign entertained a bit. I
thought about it, but then Iwent, no, you've got to trust
the process a little bit here,and particularly in the sport. I'm going
to talk about it where I don'tthink there is dopin in it because I
don't think it would help them thatmuch. But but nonetheless we'll get to

(43:13):
that one later. But yeah,follow the damn rules. I mean,
they're there for a place if you, even if you don't agree with them,
they're not much. We're not askingfor much here. You just have
to show your tests, do itthen and don't cause a big flub.
And for those people out there,I saw people out there criticizing Canada if
we're not agreeing to play, well, that's just people trying to put their
own anti measures spin on something.It's not really the point, guys.

(43:37):
It's it's always guys. Um,it's um. The point is to make
sure that your competing is fairly possible, and that includes contribute to their rules
because I would Canada play this gamethey have. They know that they're going
to play for a medal. Theydon't want five of their players to come
down with, you know, totest positive because they were exposed to COVID.
So they need to have that assurance. And that's that's just where it

(43:59):
comes down to exactly. Let's moveon. I'll talk about my wood medal.
It is unfortunately to an athlete,and I hate to do this,
but you know, sometimes it happens, just like sometimes it happens that you
fall in qualifying or in quarterfinals ina thousand meters, even when you're one
of the favorite to win a goldmedal. Talk about Pascal Zeal a thousand

(44:22):
meters and short track speed skating,and it was a chaotic day in short
track speed skating overall, especially inthe thousand meters. The referee was very
busy, but Paton firstly fell andit was on his own and it happens.
And the ice quality is a bitin question for short track two and

(44:45):
the conditions were described by multiple athleteathletes as very dry. The ice is
very dry and they don't water itenough, is what it comes down to.
According to some athletes that have tomaking part in the short track,
spies kitting at the center, soPascal Deio gets the wood metal. Also,

(45:07):
the ice conditions for the short trackcompetitions. Yeah, dry is a
common thread for a lot of theconditions out there in Beijing. It seems
to be part of the climate,I suppose, like dry ice the drug.
The ice at the curling Gunue wascriticized a little bit in the beginning
too. They obviously the snow wetalked about earlier today, Which is funny
that it would they would call itdry because when you think about it,

(45:30):
the ice cube was created to bepools. Yeah, well, that's the
humidity is causing the problems, iswhat's happening in the area. It's funny
that the humidity is causing ice tobe dry, but yeah, yeah,
at any rate. But it's yougive them credit for recycling that the facilities
that was we said, oh definitely, yeah, not just recycling, upgrading

(45:52):
too, like they added like properled lights outside and they're able to like
to write things on them that theyreally invested more money on these and yeah,
you're right, d it's a rarerecycling of events. Yeah. Look,
I mean, China is not aworld power on the winter side.
Um, they're big and they're China, so they're gonna win medals, but

(46:12):
they're they're not. It's not theirarea of expertise. Like this is kind
of an emerging Winter Games in alot of ways, an emerging country hosting
is what I mean. So sothey're gonna, you know, sometimes struggle
to find the right conditions because it'sjust not natural. But it is what
it is. It's here, itis, and you have to give the
Winter Games different parts of the world, and you know, we can argue

(46:32):
a book whether this particular country shouldhave gotten these games, but that was
an argument that he had to havein twenty fifteen. So it's done now
and here we are no, Yeah, you're right, You're right, all
right, and we can continue nowand move on to our poutine medal for
day three. Dwayne, You're poutinefor d three. I think we're gonna

(46:52):
talk about this again, this competitionagain. I am going to give my
poutine medal to uh Max Paro anduh am More Market Morris, who were
you know, both on the podiumand the slopestyle and what was an incredibly
fun and exciting and amazing event.I love the slopestyle so much. It
is they're insane, like these peopleare not normal, They're not like us.

(47:14):
They what they do at there ishighly highly entertaining though, and it
was a highly highly entertaining competitional.I'll say Parole for later on in our
conversation here because his story is remarkableand we'll talk about it then. But
just the high level of skill andthe high level of pushing the envelope across
the board was something that I reallywanted to highlight. And for two Canadians

(47:37):
to be on a podium that hasn'thappened very often in Olympic history. You
know, Canada's got two men inthe popeum or two people in the podium
maybe five, six, seven times. I'd have to look at just Mark
mcmarris winning three straight bronze medal inthree straight ling begins. Yeah, and
he's he's a superstarter. You seehim. Oh Also, Yellsmos died in

(47:58):
between because he had a backcountry crashthat needed him to not only re learned
how to walk in snowboard, buthe literally almost died for sure. And
look, eighty eight point five threewas his score for the bronze medal today,
which is a really remarkable score,the only one one man over ninety,

(48:19):
which was Max pro the winner.U. It's interesting to listen to
mc morris because he's a guy thatwe watched grow up and he's still not
old by any means. I believehe turns twenty nine this year, which
is very young by any standard atall, except for sporting wise, the
sport he's in where he's now amiller statesman. And you can see the
maturity and you can hear the maturityin his voice, and he has gone

(48:42):
from being radical dude and you know, two Olympics ago, which was kind
of fun to kind of a guythat has a you know, has got
a philosophy and his understanding that abronze is something to be cool about.
And then he's had a remarkable lifeand he feels lucky and privileged to either
you can tell and how he presentshimself now. And you know, he

(49:04):
didn't win the gold medal, buthe's on the podium again. He's proud
about that and he should be.So yeah, it was well, we'll
say Pero and I had tip tothe Chinese rider too, who who really
pourshed the envelope. And I thought, oh yeah, I don't have him
in the medal, but I dowant to talk about him. Sue Yi
Ming, who won the silver medal, even his first after qualifying. He
was a smoothest snowboarder I've ever seenin my life in qualify, Like Danni,

(49:28):
he didn't qualify. Barrow kind ofdid a better run technically in the
final, and we can talk aboutit in a minute. We'll talk about
other medals that we have, butSu Yi Ming was the smoothest, the
most fluid snowboarder I have ever seen. Yeah, no one. I thought
that his second run might but Iwas surprised that I finished below parrole.

(49:50):
But I mean prood a great ride. Either one or would be great.
And I think you're right that there'sa couple of little technical things in there
that because he did it's because hedid three triple in a row. So
that's why Burrow got it. It'slike unprecedented to do that in competition and
that is a reason why. Butlike fluidity, smoothness and like just the
eye test, You're right, SujiMing could be the smoothest rider on the

(50:15):
planet. Yeah, and obviously uhnot was all. You know, he's
just starting too, so so we'llprobably hear about we'll talk about him in
four years from now. But yeah, that's that's that's my poutine medal to
day, I will probably what we'vealluded to it. We you know,
we'll be talking about it later on. We'll talk about Max pro in a
minute, so I'll let you jumpin from there. My Poutine medal goes

(50:37):
to Kim Bhutane for winning a bronzemedal in short track speed skating five hundred
meters. It was an eventful dayin the short track. We've talked about
it the ice condition, but thisfinal was a who's who in the short
track speed skating world. From ArianaFontana who finished and won the actual gold
medal in this edition, to KimUtang through all her stories from having some

(51:02):
death threats in Korea in Pyeongchang aftera South Korean athlete was disqualified. She
received some messages and some harsh,well not harsh, and death threats on
social media on Instagram, and ittook a long time for it to clear
her life, and she had somedifficult times. She did have some great

(51:22):
results and then some difficult times andshe is back. She built herself back
up and her confidence to being oneof the best, if not right now
the best in the entire world.And because of the circumstances and yes condition
and in our time, in thesome minds, she had land three,
so it was always going to bedifficult to finish first a second she was

(51:44):
going to have to do a pass. And like we saw in short track,
the high risk, low reward situationof trying to pass sometimes is too
much and sometimes you're better off tryinglooking for that window. She was aiming.
She was going hard ride before turningin left, if you understand what
I mean, in kind of likea race car would do on a noble

(52:07):
tried to cut the corner and gainadvantage, and over the course of a
couple of turn you might have awindow to overtake someone. She was trying
it, the window wasn't there.She was not going to rush it,
and she won bronze. Arianna Fontana, who's really good. Fontana five times
world champion. Fontana also won thefour World Championship in twenty fourteen when I

(52:29):
was there calling the race for myown content. But in twenty fourteen World
Championship in Montreal, on Cation finishedsecond, Fontana won. Fontana won the
gold here eight years later at theOlympics. Yeah, she's pretty dominant man.
And as you say, it wasreally a protected your position sort of

(52:50):
race, and sometimes, as youmentioned, it is just best to stay
there and hope for something in frontof you rather than push something and end
up falling and completely fallen out ofthe medals. So because we saw Indian
get get disqualified, we saw athletesget still qualified for very small movement.
If you try to overtake, youexpose yourself literally to being disqualified if anything
happens, even if there's a bitof flop. Because we're seeing that happen

(53:14):
in a short track this year,too. That is unfortunate, but yeah,
you're better off sometimes not creating thatdrama if you don't feel the confidence
saying you feel the window or theopportunity or the space to overtake us there
in one hundred percent and as youyeah, we talked about that in my
wood Metal way back early in theshow that the video replace does seem to

(53:36):
be very very pedantic, is whatwe'll say. So so yeah, you
protect your spot it And that wasa good skate for a medal today.
A couple of medals on the boardfor Dane. Pretty good day for camad
overall, exactly. Bronze medal Dwaynefor d three for you. All right,
I'm gonna go to a Dutch speedskater here. Shocking. I know,
they didn't quite get a sweep ofthe podium, but they were three

(53:58):
of the top four and the goldmedalist in the fifteen hundred meter launch track
was iron versed. This is notablyher fifth Olympics that she has won an
individual medal. That is the firstperson in Olympic history to do that in
five consecutive Olympic Games. And that'sjust incredible. That's historical stuff, right,

(54:20):
And you've got to mention, thenyou've got to, you know,
tip your hat to someone who particularlyin your fifth one. So you're not
a young you're not a spring chickenby the sports standard anymore either, right,
manages to put down a great skate, beat the world champion and win
a gold medal for a country thatjust loves loves the speed skating. And
as I said, they were onethree and four today, so it's uh,

(54:44):
they're not really that weak. TheDutch they're still going pretty strong,
and Iron verst Is continues to bea great competitor in that sport. And
uh, we perhaps we'll talk abouther again because she's got some more events
to go. That's yeah, Iagree, and we'll talk about a Dutch
and speed skating for a couple ofweeks more, I think, I believe,
so he would get me one.I agree and quickly moved to my

(55:07):
bronze medal, which is to theDenmark. The Danish hockey team on the
woman's side got their first win everat the Olympics Games last night twin and
they are one two right now andgrow b And it was not easy.
It was against Czech Republic and forthe last minute and a half It was
not fun. It was stressful.They had a few opportunity, they went

(55:27):
down a good player. Then itwas six to four for the checks and
the commentators were like, oh lord, this might not happen. And the
check got an amazing chance. Thepuck was on the stick of the player.
She was gonna almost sent it inan open net. She flopped it
a bit. It wasn't a bigsave, and then the puck got off
and there was four seconds, threeseconds. The puck is now in the

(55:50):
neutral zone and you can tell thatthe the English team is going to start
losing their minds to not say losingother things. And then they all jump
on the ice like they've won thetournament. Their first ever win at the
Olympic Games in Group B two forthe Danish hockey team on the women's side,
congratulations, you've won not only thegame but also my support well,

(56:15):
and I've mentioned that sort of speaksto what I spoke to earlier. I
want to talk about the Chinese womenhockey team. It's that if you're frustrated
by the dominance of the top twoteams in this sport, then then watch
the rest of the tournament, becausethe rest of the tournament is not bloods.
It's quite competitively compelling, interesting games, and the battle for bronze is
going to be quite interesting. I'mnot sure who I would tip for that,

(56:36):
maybe the Rock. They do seemto be coming together, but it's
it's pretty wide open. And theformat that they use in women's hockey reflects
the disparity of teams. So youhave two pools and one pool has all
the players all the teams advanced.Another two pool, which is the pool
we're talking to over right here,only has a couple. So these games
are playoff games for these teams,and the intensity reflects it. So that's

(57:00):
that's a good shape there. SoI'll move on to my silver medal.
Then my silver medal is I'm goingto give it to the Italian mixed doubles
curling team. We've sort of mentionedthe other half of this game. Earlier
on. We talked about Canada's performancein this and be completely unfair for me
not to talk at length about theteam that finished fast while ignoring the team
that is now undefeated. And aswe were recording this has clinched a spot,

(57:22):
he has clinched the metal. Theyare we'll be playing for a goal
tonight against the Norwegian team. Sothat's that's what the competition is this evening.
And the Italians, which is StefanaCostatina A Nameles Monsour had been incredible
all week and in the doubles game, if you have someone who's strong and
big and he can throw heavy,heavy weight, you have it in advantage.

(57:45):
What they call it as hog tohog is the measurement they'll use in
the sport. And that sounds weird, but what that means real simply is
how fast the rock travels between thetwo lines of the delivery lines, which
is called the hog line. Hedoes it about a second faster than the
rest of the world and the restof this petition. And he's just a
big, strong athletic guy. Andthis team is incredible. I mean,
they're playing for gold for a reason, and I suspect it will probably win

(58:07):
that game. The game Canada gavethem today or yesterday would have been the
best sort of They were pushed allweek and they still found a way through
that with some incredible shop making andit's just it's a great team and with
them hosting the next Olympics to goin potentially as the defending gold medalist.
Do you expect that because the team'sgoing to go around, be around for
a while longer too, And yeah, it's the Italian curling program has improved

(58:30):
a great deal and that problem hasto do with more funding because which we
haven't really talked about. Bilano CortinaDampezzo in twenty twenty six will be a
good time, any fun throwback typeof Olympics, back to a resort town.
Looking forward to that, all right, and it's now time to move

(58:52):
to my silver medal for day threeand I will go to France and be
at low And we haven't really taughtabout biathlon yet, but this one is
in the fifteen kilometers individual. Butshe also won a medal in the mixed
relay. Already two silver medal forAnais. Made sure that I pronounce it

(59:14):
properly, Anais chev Buche with Firstof all, is this beautiful name.
If you're translated in English, itmeans well, Anais is the first name
analyst, knights and bouche. It'skind of like a fancy way to say
something. So maybe she had knights, maybe even who knows Knights of the
round table or the French version,maybe even some mousquetade in her history musketeers,

(59:37):
who knows. But she has wontwo medals to silver medals, so
I wouldn't be surprised if she actuallyhad knights because the way she's handling not
just the poles and the skis,but also the rifle. Yeah, she's
definitely fearsome and she's putting the fearin the competitors, having two silver medals
for France already in these games.Just laughing. I grew up in a

(01:00:00):
town called Bellville, but it doesn'treally match it so there. Yeah,
it's not really beautiful town, butyou know, it's what happened. Yeah,
there you go at any rate.Usually like I grew up in it,
in the place called Ta Bunton,which means like good Earth. Nothing
was growing there. You couldn't.You couldn't grow like two lips if you
wanted to. There you go,all right, that's be serious in the

(01:00:21):
Bath. I've been joining the Bathon a great deal. It's it's just
interesting and I think it's uh somethingabout about having that mix of competitions.
It's not a sport work exposed toa lot here um just it's kind of
fun. It kind of speaks tothe Olympics to me, and obviously one
of my earlier Olympic memories will bethe Unfortunately she didn't have a she had

(01:00:42):
some weird stuff after, but uh, we don't have to talk about the
rest, right the fo I hasn'ttalked about that. She was involved into
an art art stealing, racketeering ringor something and like cult things. It's
very weird, you know. Thelast three decades have been really weird doing
don't don't meet your heroes. Yes, it's when it comes down you don't

(01:01:05):
tell her, don't keep him faraway from you. Yeah. Now,
So anyway, that's that's been funand I've been enjoying lots of that.
You'll see lots of cross country andbiathlon throughout these games, of course,
the biggest individable and most of theworld that would be it would be the
biggest sports too, right, Soyou know we have different focuses over here,
all right, So I'll go tomy gold medal. You're ready for
this one, Kevin, I'm readygold medal for doing We don't have a

(01:01:27):
drum roll, but you know ifwe had one, I would give you
one, all right. Um.Unfortunately I'm going to go to the rock
because I fortunately have to talk aboutan historic accomplishment. Um, figure skating
is on my favorite sport in theworld. I think I've been pretty open
about that, and that's maybe someinherited biases into that. I don't know.
Mum loves it. My mother lovesfrigg you're skating. I have to
tell her every day. I haveto text her when the forges skidding is

(01:01:49):
on, so she turns the Olympicson. At any right, in the
entire history of the sport, nowoman had ever in a competition jumps up,
went around four times and landed untilyesterday. So the Russian who has
she's only fifteen, Camilla Vallerina oryeah impressively, Yeah, she's gonna be
well. The Russian figure skating programis incredible, right, Like it's it's

(01:02:13):
unfortunate that they get tied in withthe rest of the Russian Olympic committee because
they are more about the artistry thanthey are about the pure athleticism. But
this is a combination of it.Here with this young girl that has managed
to land the first quad in historyof the competition. That is a significant
accomplishment. You know, you seeit in the men's game side all the
time. Now, I mean they'reit's expected they have to do like four

(01:02:36):
to competition. You can't win agold medal without learning a quad. Now,
yeah, it just wouldn't even be. In fact, it's hard for
them to land triples. I meansomeone was talking about Twitter Twitter about this.
It's like, why are they strugglewith triples but not the quads?
And I think it probably has somethingto do with the fact that what's almost
tweeter for them once you once you'retrying to go as far. It's like

(01:02:57):
it's trying to ask a long jumperto just jump a meter. Yeah,
yeah I can't. Yeah, I'vetrained my body to go so far away
that I can't just dove it backthat easily. Yeah. I can still
remember when the first quad was landed. This is earlier my Olympic memories.
I believe it would have been aroundCalgary. So it's been a long time
for the women to catch up.Um, but they're there and they're closing

(01:03:20):
that gap faster I think because they'reallowed to push themselves for And who was
it Scott Hamilton the landed the firsttriple? I believe it was. Yeah,
it was a Canadian. It happenedpretty quick. There was two of
them that happened very close together.With memory storts, I mean, we're
we're really testing the like of mymemory here, but we're really testing the
left of our knowledge too, becauseif I can just name five, I

(01:03:40):
don't think I can name six figureskater of my past anyways, And I
just think of four and I havelike Scott Hamilton, Kurt Browning, Elvistoiko
and Fabrious Kendello, who might havebeen the most spectacular and amazing figure skater
in the history of the world.Yeah, Scott tests, of course we
can name them. But yeah,well they're they're ice dancers. That's different.

(01:04:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.They were trending on Twitter in Canada
to day exactly. That's your indicationof where they are in the consciousness here.
Anyway. So we're watching last night, My wife and I were just
watching figure skating competition, the Deancompetition, and she's like, oh,
there's another another, another duo,another couple dancing skating, and she's like,

(01:04:24):
they don't jump. This is differently. Yep, welcome to ice dancing.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,true. All right, I guess
it's for my gold medal, andmy gold medal goes to Max sons Parot,
Max Perot Gold in the slow stylesnowboard. Three years after being diagnosed

(01:04:47):
with Otchkins then foma, three yearsafter going through twelve rounds of devastating chemotherapy
that ate away at his muscle,that took away his cardio, that took
away his coordination, rhythm, smoothness, sink, all these thinchronicity, these

(01:05:12):
things are essential to be a goodsnowboarder, spatial awareness. Three years later,
he wins a gold medal with therun of his life. Never in
competition had he landed stomped three thriplesin a row, and he did,

(01:05:33):
and this time after barely qualifying forthe final, Max Barrow got the gold
medal. Of course, Suyeming theChinese finished second. Canadian Mark mc morris
got his third bronze medal in arow. But the headline this morning is
about Max Barrow beating cancer and threeyears later beating the world. And obviously

(01:05:59):
that's that's a type of story that'sgonna, you know, make headlines everywhere,
not just in Canada. That isan incredible, an incredible story,
but even just beyond the cancer part, which you shouldn't just dismiss clearly,
but even beyond that, it's agood story in the sense that he's sort
of always been overshadowed by his teammate, not in a way that I think
makes him angry or something, buthe definitely is not he's the lesser No

(01:06:21):
One of the two, but he'she's pretty good. And there's also let's
not friguet Sebasti Tuta, who finishedninth in the final a Septuts, which
is his nickname. He's nineteen now, he's been he's superstar in to well
the snowboards. He's has been tenand he was a big superstar a decade
ago of this delegation with Mark McMorrisand Barrow was like the third wheel and

(01:06:44):
Barrow got a silver in his lastOlympics and this time around got the goal.
But the whole story and everything goingwith it, it's quite the journey
exactly. And look and they bothwell, all these borders will essentially go
into the big era as well,where the Canadian will be once again.
You don't have a metal potential theretoo. So so it's a great story
all around. And I think it'sit's it's awesome for for Max Piro to

(01:07:08):
to be the headline for the dayand to get the you know, the
first gold medal for Canada in thesegames. Well the last pity, we'll
get the first one. And it'salways nice to get off the board.
And it was a great competition.And as I said earlier in the show,
it's just it's the slap style.It's just so fun. I mean,
it's there's a reason they start tothe Olympics. Off with it now.
It is just spectacular to watch andthis scale, the scale of it.

(01:07:30):
But I saw the bigger to doyesterday, which is the bigger but
though it's the first permanent big airvenue in the entire world in Beijing,
it's spectacular. You see the oldiron manufacturers factories behind that. Of course
they're not in use anymore because ofthe nineties. Did they realize that,
Oh, that's why our air isnot good because we have these big polluting
factories right downtown. So they shutthem all down and now you can actually

(01:07:51):
see in Beijing it's good. Butthey build that thing and that thing is
freaking spectacular and people are going todie. Thought in the bigger because it's
about twenty thousand foot high. Idigress exactly, yes, but they didn't
have to paint the grass green thisyear. I know. You know,
Oh my lord, when I sawhim, one of the skiers, like

(01:08:11):
she fell and she didn't fell thathard, but just a pure force just
bended her pole. And I canonly imagine if that was my femur.
Oh yeah, I know, theaggs. I said, these people are
crazy. I'm just seeing my firstmetal ceremony in the background. I I'm
so mad at the whole idea ofmetal ceremonies. Don't get me started anyway,

(01:08:33):
the armies involved there, it's notright, but no, not great.
And also the fact that why don'tyou just give it that metal after
them event I mean, that's thatstarted actually Canada for that. The first
the first Olympics that did the ceremonywas Calgary, and at that time it

(01:08:53):
was in the Olympic Square there indowntown Calgary. They they wanted to open
it up for people that couldn't affordto go to anything that they just made
better free. And there's a concertand they strut their medals at night,
and that was kind of a nicegesture to the general population. Well,
now it's a ticket in their badexactly. You knew that was not gonna
stay. Like, oh wait,we could actually sell these tickets, but
we don't have to add events tosell more tickets. Done anyways, So

(01:09:16):
yeah, and it doesn't make anysense at all in the COVID Olympics.
But nonetheless, um yeah, sothere you go. Look, yeah,
the big airs all that's great stuff. And it's great stuff that China can
see too, so that's that's goodtoo. Exactly. On that note,
we'll take some arrests. We'll beback with Day four tomorrow. Until then,

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