Season 2 - Episode 1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome back. It's been a hot minute for those that
are listening. And today Riley and I are going to
kick off season two of our podcast. For those that
have listened in the past, we did over one hundred
episodes really with no structure.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
We're going to try to have a little more structure
this season.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Nothing crazy, though, We're going to have guests come on
and if you recall the last you know, the podcast
used to be called the four F Forum. We'll talk
about faith, family, fitness, and finances. That's going to stay
the same, except we're rebranding and it's going to be
five F Conversations. And the theme of this season is

(01:02):
the fifth F, which we always said, if you do
those other foref's with some intentionality, as you know, with priorities,
it'll lead to this fifth F called freedom. So this
season of the podcast is all around freedom. Right, So
today we're going to talk about our podcast, our intentions,
what the fifth F means to us, recap the fore f's,

(01:26):
and we'll keep it a little bit of a shorter episode.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
But then we already have all of the.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Guests lined up for November, so we'll release starting November
the first week of November and every week after that
for forty weeks, we're going to release an episode and
we're going to try to have that theme freedom kind
of be the driving force. So, Riley, been a while
since we've heard from you, So let's let's kick it

(01:54):
back off. You know, maybe we'll get some new listeners,
tell them a little bit about yourself and maybe how
the four slash five apps has helped or impact you
along the way.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, then, I've known each other for thirteen years now.
We went to school together and both kind of made
a crazy decision at the time, it seemed to start
our own financial services business and said that we wanted
to have a podcast for a long time, and we
finally did it.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
We both have kind of spread our wings in different
areas in that.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
World and allowed ourselves to be productive and hopefully provide
value in many different ways. But still love this, Still
love doing this, and I think that the four FS.
I'm glad you actually asked me that question because faith, Family, Fitness,
and Finance. You've said this really well in the past.
How that's kind of a litmus test for like an

(02:51):
objective foundational measuring stick for us, Like, hey, if it doesn't.
If a decision doesn't enhance every one of those areas,
we probably shouldn't do it. We're at a minimum.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
It's at least a way to get back on track, right.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
So that's how it's helped me, is it's I've even
been in conversation. Sometimes I can talk to anybody, but
I need to be a better listener sometimes and sometimes
when I'm curious, I'm in a conversation, I'm not always
maybe fully engaging in that conversation like I should, and
I need to come up with something to say. I've

(03:25):
thought that, like I've come back to the FOREF before faith, Family, Fitness,
and finance, because that really that encapsulates almost every area
of somebody's life, right, And that's why we named it that,
and that's we got it from one of our mentors,
Trent Forner, who you just had a webinar with last
week at a fantastic job. And so, by no means
has it's been a concoction of our own creation. It's

(03:47):
we've been around and in rooms with people that are
a lot smarter than us, and we just try to
do the similar things to them and obviously put our
own spin on us. So I love the fact that
we're talking about freedom because to your point, if we
do the first four, it should ultimately result in that
fifth F, which is freedom.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
So it's helped me tremendously. How about you.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you threw a Trent.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
We're at a seminar that he put on I Believe Together,
and he threw that out there, the faith, family, fitness, finances,
and I don't know, it really stuck. I liked it because,
you know, for me, it's it's kind of an algorithm
to make decisions, right. It's like, and in this industry

(04:33):
or the finances, you know a lot of times, oh
you know, it's that job takes me away from home
too much and I don't love the hours, but what
else am I going to do? You know, I need
the money, and it's like, I get it. I'm not
saying it's easy at all, But if you had the
four FS in place, it's like, hey, is this job
decision good for my finance or my faith?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Start at the top, right, that's the most important for me.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
We don't want to do, you know, short term decison
visions that could compromise our faith, which is an eternal
you know, big decision right, Okay, if it's good for
my faith, cool, move on? Is this job decision or
this decision I have to make good for my family? Well,
if it takes you away from your family for an
extended period of time and it limits your ability to

(05:19):
be a good dad and husband, you might want to, like,
you know, just set it aside right there. But you know,
otherwise we justified as like, yeah, but what about the
money that's lower down in the priority list. So if
it's good for your faith, and then if it's good
for your family, good, move on. Is it good for
my physical and mental health, my fitness, and if it's

(05:39):
good for all those three and good for your finances,
make the decision right. But anyway along anytime along the way,
it can't just be good for your bank account and
good for your finances, but it you know, ruins your
mental health, and it ruins your family, and you know
you can't go to church or anything, and all the
different reasons.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't know. I would just that's how I like
to use it. So it's been really helpful.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm excited to dive into freedom because I feel like
freedom means something different to a lot of people, right
some people are very fixated on money and like, hey,
once I get my money right, I'm going to have
all this freedom. And then you start meeting people with
a lot of money, and you know, maybe that isn't
what it means to them.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Maybe they just want more money.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
You know, some people that don't have money, but they
have you know, they have their very nice, stable home
life and everything.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's like freedom to them is something different.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
So I'm excited to see kind of where this these
forty episodes go as we bring on specialists in different
areas regarding all the way up and down, you know,
the four fs, hopefully faith, family, fitness, and finances.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I know, for November we have someone from the military
coming on.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
We're going to talk more generic about just freedom, what
it means to them with having had multiple, you know,
deployments overseas fighting for our country. Now we got another
guy on here who's going to have you know, he
sets up businesses and they run themselves within ninety to
one hundred and twenty days and he removes himself and
he's got plenty of time freedom. You know, So over

(07:12):
the course of this season, if you guys have specific
interests and you know, faith, family, fitness. Obviously, we have
lots of financial connections that could lead to freedom or
could answer a question you have about freedom. Please, you know,
hit us up, text us, share us, you know, share
with us what you're thinking, and we'd be happy to

(07:34):
try to bring that to you guys. Right, Obviously, we're
doing this podcast to learn for ourselves and get around
smart people, but ultimately to share it with you guys.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
So yeah, that's kind of the five f's.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
One of the things too that's helped dan Is. I
think it's helped me accelerate my decision making process, you know,
to your point, So okay, run through that mental checklist
in your own head, and decision making sometime can be challenging,
but actually taking action on things of the implementation is
sometimes difficult. So this has also helped me just accelerate

(08:10):
my decision making process. And I hope that that's what
listeners can get out of this too. And I'll be honest,
I'm a little nervous I actually talk about freedom because
I feel like it's such a big thing. Like I
don't even know, if you ask me right now, like
what is freedom mean to you?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Really?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
I'm not even sure what I would say, I might say.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Something different the next time that you asked me after
I thought about it more deeply. So I think that's good. Right,
it's going to be real, it's going to be raw,
and to your point, I think it is. Probably it
probably means something different to each person that we're going
to have on and it probably may even mean something
different to you in us and individually. So I'm kind
of nervous for it, but I think it's I think
it's good. I like this new structure.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well, it's going to provide some accountability too.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
You know, we're not We're not coming on here saying
we got all the freedom techniques in the world figured out,
you know, and if you asked me six years ago
what freedom, it was probably much more simple.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
It was, Hey, I'm going to get whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
One hundred two hundred thousand dollars a year passively, and
I'm going to be able to not work.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
And now it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I mean, I got a homestead, I got a bunch
of kids, you know, I just and we're kind of
come a long ways too, like, I mean, we can
control our schedule for the most part. I know, mine's
maybe a little more flexible than yours with your clinic
and everything. But for the most part, like we've created
a lot of freedom and choices. But now we're you know,

(09:34):
we're definitely not I'm definitely not there whatever that means.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know, I got a long ways to go with.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Systems, to continue to build out my team so they
run without me. But but if you take me back
ten years, it was like, you know, a W two
job with you know, four dollars extra at the end
of the month. It was like, that's a different type
of freedom than I have now, you know. But so

(10:01):
it is a working you know, and I'm hoping forty
episodes from now, the freedom in my life looks a
lot different just from osmosis and getting around all the
guests we're going to bring on and hearing different nuggets
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
So there is a component of that.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You know as well, you know, and then with just
I'm excited to bring on like the preppers and you know,
the self sufficiency in the homestead those guests too, because
let's be honest, if if civil war breaks out and
all the craziness, we're right, you know, we're going to
be releasing this literally right during election week and you know,

(10:37):
probably one of the craziest elections in our adult lives.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Possibly.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's like, what does that freedom look like when it
comes to just being self sufficient? Right, might have all
the money you need in the bank account, but if
money's not doesn't have a value, you're going to really
wish you had.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Some self sufficiency skills and stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
So I'm excited for that as well, you know, Yeah, yeah,
it's good.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
We'll see where it goes, you know, yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Just write down some things.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
As you were speaking, like, I think there's going to
be different levels to freedom, like you mentioned a good one,
like like I think a health freedom. How many people
are kind of I'll use the word slave to their health,
you know, because of what they put in their mouth
or their environment.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
How many people are not free when.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
It comes to their jobs and they have to get
up every day go to work, which nothing wrong with work.
Work is a good thing. Scripture tells us that what
are you working in the in the evenings? Like are
you working forty hours a week? Are you working one
hundred hours a week? Like?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (11:39):
And how much freedom do you actually have to go
do the things that you want to do? When you
want to do them with the people that you want
to do them with. So and I'm even kind of
evaluating all those things for myself. It's like, do I
really have a whole lot of freedom in my own mind?
How I define it? And the answer is yes. But
at the same time, in other ways, I work almost
every evening. I am it would be difficult right now

(12:02):
for me to take any amount of time off.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
You know, irons in the fire.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
So and I hope that in our conversations, and I'm
speaking to myself here that because again, freedom is this
big thing, and it's a big deal.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
It's an important thing to be able to have. My
hope is that I.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Don't downplay it, you know, like all room to me
is I don't want to have to work in the evenings.
It's like, dude, there's a lot of people that have
sacrificed a lot to be able to have freedom.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
So my hope is that we can connect on both
ends of those spectrum, because there's going to be that
really serious conversation. Maybe it's with our guests that's in
the military. Maybe he might talk about some really serious,
deep stuff, you know, versus to somebody else. They just
want to have time with their kid. That's important too. Yeah,

(12:55):
the severity of both of those things might be on
different spectrums for people. So yeah, I've been to some
of the structure. I think that would be helpful for
our listenership.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Well, I just think because we're having actual season dedicated
around the theme freedom, you know, we're going to evolve
into just two to five questions that we make sure
every guests get answered so we can keep that structure.
But ultimately we're going to bring on a guest, They're
going to get to share their story. We're going to
keep the episodes around thirty to forty minutes and walk

(13:27):
away with you know, what does freedom mean to them?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
And how did they come about?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
You know, how they how they formulate that that thought process, right,
So I think for today you get to be my guest. Sure,
and you know you kind of touched on it, but
what does freedom you know mean to you?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
And it is a broad thing.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
You could go into each of the four fs if
you want, or you can you can you know kind
of I know you've asked this question a lot of
time for clients and maybe it was financial freedom or
dependance or what but like, when you hear the word freedom,
what does it mean for you? And you know your
wife and your family.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think the first thing I think of is my
two grandfathers, both fighting in World War Two out of
the bulls. Like I've talked to my dad and my
mom before about I cannot imagine what they both went
through to not only be I've rood from their families,

(14:28):
but to go across the world to an entirely different
place and to defend all the things that we get
to do back here in the US. It's honestly difficult
for me to even just just fathom it. I don't
really understand it completely. That's the first thing that I

(14:49):
think of when freedom is mentioned. And I take that
for granted. I know, as a society right now, we
do a lot, we take a lot of our freedoms
for granted. There's a lot of people stat recently, I
don't know if this is true. I'd have to fact
check this if that's the right term to use, but
there's over forty million people in the world right now
that are slaves.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Enslave a true legitimate slavery, and it's been it's been
a part of the world.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Since the beginning, you know, and even to stay in
twenty twenty four, it's still an issue. It's still a challenge.
We don't have that here, you know, or at least
not in my everyday existence. So that's the first thing
I think of a man, like, how fortunate are we
to be living in the time that we are. The

(15:37):
second thing that I think is, I go I go
right to my time freedom, I go right to the
time or the things that are most important to me
in my faith.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I get to go to church every single week.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I get to practice what I want to practice and
nobody tells me that I can't do it, Like, that's
a big right freedom of religion. Being able to do that,
I think that I think of being able to be
with my wife.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
And my child.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I was at my parents' house this past weekend, had
a really great time, got to get my wife a
bit of a break. She got to have a full
night of sleep, like nine and a half hours of sleep,
and she was like a different person.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
When when we got back.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
And I mean that the best way if she's listening
to this, But having the freedom to drive where I want,
having the freedom to go into any building in the
basis that I want to and like, that's just I
don't even think about I just do it, right, But
having the time to be able to do that in
a kind of a selfish snent I think of too,

(16:35):
is I work almost every evening until about eleven o'clock
or midnight. Almost every night I worked from like this morning,
I got up, I was I had somebody at six
that I had to have a meeting with, and I'll
work until almost midnight tonight. I'm not bragging. I'm not
even I'm definitely not bragging about that. But right now
I don't have the freedom to not work, and I've
done that. So if I had to, like, because all

(16:58):
of the big things are taking care, I don't have
somebody shooting a bullet at me or trying to stab me,
or I'm not over across the world defending our freedoms here,
I do get to think about some of the quote
unquote smaller things, like I mean, I wish I could
just watch a show with my wife at night, you know,
and not go work until midnight. So that's if I

(17:19):
had to think of freedom right now, because it's most
pertinent to my life in this stage, I would like
to have time off in whenever.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
I want, you know, I don't. I don't have that
ability right now.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
So I could probably say ten more things, but the
three things that I wrote down were those right there.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I think that's going to lead into another question on
my ask, And if you could increase freedom in any
area of your life with no limitations, what do you
think you would increase.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I would increase time with my family, no doubt about it,
not even a hesitation.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
With my two year old little boy.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
We're in a very awesome position to be able to
have my wife stay home with him. She's a great mom,
great wife, and I know that I miss out on
things during the day sometimes, and you know, she does
a great job of send me pictures and videos and
stuff like that. But at the same time I know
I'm missing out on things. I also get a great

(18:19):
deal of pride out of providing for my family, So
that's awesome that I get to do that. I have
a freedom to be able to go earn a living.
But if I could increase anything, it would be able
to turn this pickot off in terms of my time
that I'm trading for money and be able to spend

(18:40):
more time with my family, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I love it. I love it. I think we just
kind of keep it, keep it like that.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
You know, that could get pretty deep, and it also
could make you, as the guest.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Leave, you know, with some clarity and some focus.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
But I also think of how many people are going
to resonate with what you just said.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Like now they can they can go home.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
And our job on this specific podcast is not to
tell you how to do any of that stuff. Maybe
some of our guests will as we go through this season,
but obviously that's what we'd strive to do in our
you know, financial practice every day, right, is that that
would be a wish list item, and then we would
help strategize with your finances.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
To be able to create.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
More time freedom that could come from financial independence and everything.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
But yeah, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
It's a good example you gave too.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I think or you mentioned homesteading, but I even think
of what your wife is doing with homeschooling. And this
is not a knock on our necessarily our public school system,
but I think it's broken, So I guess I guess
it is a knock. What I mean is it's not
a knock on the educators or the teachers, because they're
part of the system that I think is broken. But

(20:00):
think about the logic of you send your kid for
after five years old in some situations, to school for
four to eight hours every single day, sometimes nine. If
they have extracurricular activities after school, you might see them
at five thirty or six o'clock in the evening. They
do their homework, you might see them for an hour
or two and then you rinse and repeat. And to me,
that's not freedom that I don't get to see my

(20:24):
kid or my kids when I want to, or even
sometimes my spouse. So how do we align our decisions
on a daily basis with the ultimate vision that we
have with more time freedom within my situation with my family,
the people that I care most about. And I'm still
trying to figure that out right to your point, we

(20:45):
don't have any of that figured out.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
But that's just a simple example.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
It's like we've kind of adopted this Prussian school system
where we sit behind a desk and you're a good
little Johnny or good little Susie, and you memorize things
and you answer questions on a standardized tests. And again
maybe there's a place for that. I know you and
your family have decide to kind of go a different
direction from that, but talk about, like how much more

(21:08):
time do your kids get with your wife and with
you because of that system that you guys have decided
to adopt, and then you've got the freedom to do
You don't have to tissend your kids to the public
school or to the private school, and maybe you willsonday
because you're going to be a place for other things
that they will get access to.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
But man, like that's a big thing.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
We have a two year old, so we were years away,
but she's already homeschooling him, Like she's already doing it
on a daily basis, And so I'm actually really looking
forward to that aspect of our lives where we get
to practice that freedom of education.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
For our child or our future kids.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
And not every place has that, you know. Like, I
still think we live in the best place in the world.
We're messed up right now. We have a lot of
crap going on, but I still fully believe we live
in the best place in the world. I wouldn't want
to be anywhere else, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
So, yeah, I mean you talk all day on that,
but I think homeschooling is definitely a cheat you know,
a cheat code or it's becoming so much more popular,
but it's an ultimate freedom technique for sure, because as
smart and wise and awesome as we think we are,

(22:18):
you know, really our legacy is how well do we
pass on you know, skills to the next generation. And
I can teach these kids to think and have that,
you know, I'm hoping my kids grow up with just
it's normal to have like freedom and creativity, you know,
just just normal to control your own schedule and normal

(22:42):
to you know, have to have to have flexibility in
your day, and you've got to manage it properly, like
think of how you know, I mean back to the
school system. And I'm not here to knock anybody, because everybody,
I think does the best they can with the information
they have. But you know, the school system was created,

(23:02):
you know, by people that were creating good employees, right
and get used to this eight hours of torture, like
it or not sit still and pass the test, and
that's you know, those are your best employees sometimes on
these factory lines. And it's not knocking any of that,
it's just you know, go back prior to the industrial age,
and everybody was an entrepreneur. You know, you had to

(23:25):
control your schedule and you had to provide a service
to the population and get compensated for it, and one
way or another way, whether you're a farmer or a
merchant or whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
So but yeah, anyway, I gets a little deep. But
what while you were while you.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Were talking, while I was asking you the question, I
was like thinking, you know, I like comedy. If i'm if,
I look at like a lot of what I waste
my time on, scrolling reels and stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
It's it's probably three fourths of comedy comedies.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Pop it up all the time, and that you know,
Facebook knows I like it, and they'll watch.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
It longer so they throw more at me.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
But one of the dudes who's just talking about like
how oh we think it's so bad and even you
even said we lived in really messed up times right now.
And I'm not disagreeing with it, but he was just
kind of saying he's like, he's like, yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Got it so bad.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
You know, think of think of in the mid Eastern times,
like even the king's king's son, you know, he's spoiled.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
He's like, Dad, I want chicken, you know, Oh, I
just want the.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Legs dad, And I don't know if he saw this one,
just the legs, and he's like talking about it, and
the you know, the servants go out back and they
chop a couple of chickens up just to get them
the legs. No, I want them warm, you know. He's like,
we're talking about our ac and he's like, Craik, up
the heat, more firewood, No, cool it down, and they
got He's like, anyway, My point was, as I was

(24:44):
listening to, is like we live in such like an
abundant time, an abundant time where we can have anything
at our fingertips within moments, and I think we just
we create this illusion.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
And then I was also thinking of that saying.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I was just saying, like strong men lead to good times.
Good times, you know, lead to weak men. Weak men
lead to hard times, and hard times lead to strong men.
And where are we in that cycle?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Right? It's pretty easy to.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Have anything and everything living in America, you know, like
right at this moment, so are we are we in
like good times unfortunately leading to weak men? I kind
of think, So, I don't know, not to pick on
everybody else, and maybe I'm there as well, But it's like,
I don't know this this idea. When did the idea
of being able to be self sufficient on a homestead

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become like a trendy thing. It's like they're probably laughing
at us from one hundred years ago, like half of
us can't chan change a tire or fix our furnace
because we just can't problem solve, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
So I don't know, it was just it was interesting.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
We're kind of getting off into a little tangent, but
it was like, you know, I don't know, freedom just
to be creative, I think two is pretty important. But
along those lines as we're talking, it's like, you know,
we have YouTube. We have like the ultimate freedom to
like figure out anything.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
You know. They didn't have that back then.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
If their grandpa the dad didn't teach it to them,
they didn't know how to do it, you know, and
they probably knew a lot of stuff, but they probably
did a lot of stuff kind of wrong. Where we
can just look it up and watch a five minute
video real quick and get access to almost anything.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Think about how much less we learn though through that process.
You know, Like I know, for me, I have to
dive in and get my hands dirty to actually be
able to reproduce the same result again and again and again.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
And trust me, I love you too.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
I love all the things that we have, but man,
there are times when it's time just to dig in
and just go figure this out.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah. A buddy of mine.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Was in the last month or two and he said
something and it kind of, I guess, i'll say, not
triggered me, but just like, man, the mindset on that.
But he was talking about how he's kind of sick
and tired of supporting his wife. You know, she produces
a little bit of income outside the house and he's
you know, he's buying all the groceries, he's doing all

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these things, you know, And I just I kind of
sat on that for a minute.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
I was like, I love this guy, like he's a
good dude.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
But I was like, dude, I want to support, like
I want to provide everything, you know, and being able
to have the freedom to be able to do that,
I think is again another thing that I've taken for granted.
But think about the mindset shift with that something A
simple example to your point, It's like.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
We are in really, really.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Good times you know, and to your point, it's kind
of scary, right It's like where are we going?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well and scary to the point where the more the
easier can be, which it's pretty dang easy to be
comfortable right now. Probably the harder it's going to be
if they turned off the switch. So it's like that's
why I think it's so trendy to be like the
what ifs, like the doomsdays, Like what if China shuts

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the grid off?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Okay, let's plan for that, let's prep for that. It's
almost like a fun challenge.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
But let's be honest, like we're all going to be like,
you know, starving within two months because we don't know
how to sore food, we don't know how to make food.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
We don't know how to create electricity. What's the average
time if everything's shut down? Like what's the average light?
Like how many days of groceries? But would last? Like
a local community and where I live, which is like
non fifty thousand people, I've heard it as little but
ember like everything there's only like one and a half
to two days supply of food for everybody in this community.

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And I'm like, WHOA, Like that's pretty scary.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
And then you're going to have the panic, you know,
ranic and the rating all the food, so all of
a sudden, it's like everybody, yeah, I don't know. So
it's like cool, I got my little acreage out here,
and I got some chickens and everything. But you know,
how long until everybody else knows I have some chickens
out here, Like I'm not going to be sitting out
here with a gun and mowing people down.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Like it's like, so, what are we really going to do?
I don't know. It's fun to think about it, but
it's just like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
But realing this back in to kind of wrap up
the episode, like freedom, Riley and I are going to
be your guest or your co host, right, and I
want to bring in guests to answer and get people thinking.
So as you're listening to this, if you made it
through the first episode, thank you. Let us know topics

(29:35):
like I wrote down because Riley was talking like a
homeschool expert and maybe I'll bring my wife on for
one of those. And then you know, talking about just
like freedom of education. You know, I got a guy
named Matt from Baudreau that it would be cool to
get him on as a guest, and I was already
thinking like, Okay, who would be topics in that realm?

(29:55):
And then who'd be topics and life self sufficiency and
who would be topics. And obviously we can listen a
lot of like financial experts that you know, could help
on like financial freedom type of thing. But yeah, if
you guys got someone that you would like to introduce
us to and make the connection, that would be a
great fit for the topic of freedom in different areas
medical freedom, you know, all any any stuff like put

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anything related to the fore f's and then put freedom
behind it.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
That'd be cool to for us to do a little.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Homework on them and reach out and see if they
want to come on our podcasts over the.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Next forty episodes. So yeah, that's all I got. How
any closing remarks on you, It's good.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I was just going to say the same thing I've got,
you know, five or six things that I wrote down
health freedom, school system, you know, who Not How? Dan
syld And wrote a great book called who Not How?
And really, if if you condense that book into what
it's really about, it's about freedom. So I think there's
a ton of resources I definitely want to get feedback
from our listeners though, so we can really guide us
in the right direction and make sure that you're getting

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as much bag figure buck as you possibly can.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
So I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Let's do it.