A2D Flagship Show: Birds Defense Bails Out Offense in 13-12 Win Over Bills! Eagles vs Bills Postgame

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(01:15):
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Speaker 1 (01:16):
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(01:39):
And I say will meaning me and you out there.
And and Greg if he's able to get the internet
right because he's traveling. But Eagles Bill's game recap main
topic in hand ties into a pole question.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Let's go over it.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
The Eagles defense is elite enough to carry this team
to a super Do you agree or disagree?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
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Most importantly, join the conversation night, especially when the guys
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have you join the convo. Tell me what negative thoughts
you need to get off your chest, tell me the positives.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
But yes, I.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Mean listen, I see a lot of people out there
telling me, no, that this defense is not a lead enough,
not that they're not elite enough, but this offense has
gone through such ups and downs and when they're down there, downright, futrid.
I watch the same football you guys are watching, all right,
So nobody's going to tell you on my end that
it's anything different. No, no, no, no. But you win

(02:48):
as the team, you loses the team, and it's two
parts of a football team. Actually, when you count the
special team units, three parts of a football team. It's
not on one way or the other. Yeah, we know
the offensively, but we also know the problems this defenses
causes other offenses. And that's where we're at, guys. Okay,
I mean listen. I don't you want to tell me

(03:10):
it's just the Raiders. You want to tell me it's
just the Commanders, And now what, it's just Buffalo in Buffalo, Like,
that's not a big enough win to prove that a
defense can carry this team, because great defenses do what
they travel with your baby they travel and this is
what this defense does.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
So how can you disagree to it? And this seems
agree to disagree, you.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Know, And I'm all open for people to have other opinions,
that's what it's about. But seriously, how can you sit
there tonight and say this defense is not elite enough
after they go on the buffalo. Okay, they go in
the buffalo where we know about that offense and they
shut them down. Essentially, they shut them down. They had

(03:53):
a couple of big plays, right, but they were able
to make big plays when they were driving huge turn over,
huge turnover. Okay, So we're gonna bitch and moan about
the offense to night, rightfully so, But the biggest takeaway
from today in shitty weather is they didn't turn the
football over. They're talking about offense doesn't turn it over

(04:14):
and the defense that's the league. And you're gonna tell me,
you're gonna disagree to the poll out that people out there.
You're gonna disagree with the pole and tell me the
defense isn't e leite enough. Okay, I needn't know how,
I didn't know why. Okay, and Josh, the defense to
save Bowl contender offense was dreadful. Yeah, and that's okay,

(04:34):
it's not okay. But my point is is they can
still win. They can still Josh Jason, I've seen teams
do it. Jay, I've seen teams do it. You need
all fees to win the playoffs, sure you do, Sure
you do. Okay, but our phase of offense came up
in the first half, where their phase of offense wasn't there, right, fair,

(04:55):
I mean we talked about just us, but Buffalo Lady
goose in the first three quarters.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
So it goes both ways, just because they moved the
ball a little.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Bit better and then at the second half we did
when you talking about sixteen or seventeen total yards. Of course,
of course not good enough, guys, Right for the offense
was good enough in the first half to put us
in a position to win a football game. Were and listen,
they could have made it easier on us and the
second half because all they need to do is get
a stop.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
That's really it.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
I mean, sorry to get a first down, get a
couple first downs this offense. So no, but but this
is a city that I grew up around that was
all about okay, it was it was all about defense, defense, defense,
being tougher than everybody else.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
For the last two years, we've gotten that defense and
we bitched.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Now, last year we didn't need to bitch of moe
about the offense, but we bitch and moan and we
worry that an elite defense can't win you super Bowls
when there's a history of elite defenses winning offenses that
aren't good enough Super Bowls or quarterbacks that aren't good
enough super Bowls. Trent dilferd I mean, guys, Oh my god,

(06:07):
the guy, dude. The list goes on guys of court,
of defenses that carried offenses that weren't as good as
that or average to a little bit below average offenses
that have won Super Bowls or gotten the Super Bowls
because of their defense. So don't tell me that defense
can't carry you to the super Bowl. And don't tell
me with this offense right when all needs to do

(06:30):
is be good enough and have enough big plays and
enough big drives that for this defense that the win
your game.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Don't tell me they're not good enough. What up, Johnny,
he said, what's up? Brother? Totally agree. Here's a big
fact I haven't heard people talking about yet.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Who in the NFL scares you to the point this
team doesn't stand a chance. Go birds, Johnny, you know
what you know. I'm rolling Solar tonight. Brother, you want
to you want to jump on in? I don't know.
I don't know if you know. Greg so listening or
everybody's listen. Then want to send you want to send
you a little link? But you know I'm right and
soul if you want to, you want to jump in here, brother,

(07:07):
love to love to have you. I know we talked
a little bit about getting back together and getting the
rampooth Gowen, which I would love to do.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And Eddie says, let's not forget Jonalen didn't turn the
ball over. That's huge.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yes, yes, Eddie, yes, absolutely, that's huge. Again, win the
turnover battle with great defense, you're gonna be in good
shape with top Dale. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, brother,
you two, everybody out there you know, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays,

(07:38):
Happy New Year, Love y'all. Jason, at thirteen points isn't
enough to beat the Rams, Seattle or Bears Eve elite defense. Okay,
but I don't you know, I think we'll score more
than thirteen, you know, like we did against the Bears.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
We held the Bears. What Jason, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (07:59):
You watching the Bears put up twenty eighth tonight, and
now you think that they didn't come here and only
scored twenty. That's what they scored when they came here.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Like, I don't know what you guys want. I don't
know what you guys want, Like, don't tell me they can't.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
You know, I'm all for I'm all for disagreements, but tonight,
I'm not. Tonight's the one time you're not gonna do
it to me. You're not, Jason, and I love you,
and you can have your opinion for sure, but tonight's
the one night guys aren't gonna do it to me.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
You're not. It's not at D it's not agree to
disagree tonight.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
If you don't believe the defense is the lead enough
to carry the most super Bowl, we're not watching the
same team.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
We're not watching. The defense is stifled, siph the stifle Buffalo.
They could do anything today, right, They couldn't.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Do anything when they got inside the thirties, You couldn't so,
but they do with everybody else. And we come up
and the defensive travels at Orchard park and whoops their ass,
and they're gonna come out, and we're gonna come and
on social media and we're gonna bitching run about an
offense and we're just gonna keep driving by a great defense.
That's what we're doing. We're just driving by an elite defense.
And I'm tired of watching it. I'm tired of hearing

(09:10):
about it. I'm tired of it. Why can't we sit
back and enjoy it. Why can't we be like, yeah,
in the nights, we had this, but we never could win.
But now we have it at our offense actually is
good enough to do enough to win, and we're gonna
bitch him out. Yeah it's seventeen yards and the second
half good enough. Greg, absolutely not. Nobody's running from that shit.
But what I'm gonna argue is this defense continues to

(09:33):
stand on their heads and people tell me, oh, they
won't be able to do it all year.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
They fucking did it all year.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
They did it all yet, Hey, welcome back.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Go ahead, answer the poll, because I just talked for
I used to talking for nine minutes.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Oiling here and I said, Josh, Greg sends.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
You the link because you know we're talking about doing
the rampooth again, me and him, Me and him doing
the rampoot together, which I think, so I told him,
I they get it, you know, is it come on in?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
But go ahead answered these Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
No, I absolutely agree. I mean yeah, I mean, how
can you not agree? How can you not agree?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Is there there is there issues today? Offensively, absolutely, there's
a litany of things you can you can bitch and
moan about, But we held held an offense to essentially
zero points till the fourth quarter, or it wasn't essentially.
It was zero points to the fourth quarter. And you know,
people are gonna blame the defense potentially for these two
for these two touchdowns, but they wasn't their fault. They

(10:34):
were on the game. They were on the field the
whole day. They're on the field the whole game. And
let's let's be real too, if Davonte catches the ball
that went right through his hands, we're not even talking
about a TI game. We're not even talking about a
two point conversion or anything like that last drive because
we probably end the game on that drive with just
that first out. So I absolutely agree to the poll.
This defense is absolutely legit. We got Jalen Carter back

(10:56):
and he was a man possessed today. It was awesome
to see this defense is lights out right now.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, what up, Johnny, it's a big Timmy big props
to the front four Hunt with a huge sack, two
of them.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
My player at the.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Game on Wednesday with Alex Hunt again and again he
came up with two big straight So that is huge,
he said.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Jason says it's hard to ask.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
The most expensive offense the team continue to be carried
by the cheapest defense in the leg.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Jason, You're not wrong.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
Do we win, Jason? Jason, do we win?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (11:36):
I don't disagree, Jason. There's issues right, Like, there's issues,
there's questions. I don't even say questions, there's issues. But
you got a factor in the elements, and you got
a factor in that they're a pretty damn good football
team too. And when we face pretty damn good football
teams this year, we've won them.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
The teams that we've lost to, Chicago's the best team
that we lost to. Every other team that we lost to,
is is our a garbage team? Chicago's the best team
that we lost to. Every other good team that we
saw we beaten, whether it looked pretty, whether it looked ugly, whatever,
we won, and that's all that matters in the playoffs
is winning. I went into this week saying this game

(12:15):
meant nothing to me in terms of how it looked.
I didn't care how it looked. I just wanted a
w and all we did was win, and that's all
we needed to do.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I'm not Jacob. I'm not blaming the fans.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
I'm blaming the fans for not talking about the defense,
just driving by the defense telling me that they're gonna
disagree to the pole question here, Jason, which is the
Eagle defense is the league enough to carry them to
a Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
So now am I.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Blaming the fans? I'm telling the fans you can't disagree
to this pole question. That's how Dan, that's how good
this defense has been. That's not me blaming the fans.
When I'm blaming the fans of it's being boozy. When
I'm blaming the fans of it's complaining about after every win.
That's what I'm blaming the fans of. Because I've been
through five and eleven, all right, I know what that
feels like and you probably have too. But a lot
of this Dan, base hasn't. I have people who are

(13:04):
younger that messages me after wins that it complained, right,
that complain and I get it, and I get it.
But you didn't experience the band. You only know the
good Eagles. You don't know what it's like to be
to be three, you know, three and thirteen. You don't
know what that's like. So to be a damn good
football team, the reigning Super Bowl champions, to have an

(13:27):
elite defense just went to Orchard Park and now on
the thirteen points and they went for a two point
conversion and they're building to win it and they didn't
get it. Says a lot about this defense. So don't
tell me they're not good enough. And don't tell me that.
I can't tell the fans that's not complaining every five
seconds after a win and not walk around with your

(13:48):
chest out for a minute and say, damn, our defense
will go anywhere. So you're scared of the Rams? Okay,
if you listen, this is the guy who can move
around you put statues in the pocket against his defense.
I'm telling you, who the hell are you scared of?
Sat you wise? You watched it happen. You're scared of
the Rams. I see people scared of the goddamn Rams

(14:10):
who we beat all the time. And I'm not telling
you they're not good. I'm not telling you this shouldn't
be a little bit scared, That's what I'm saying. But
always shit like I get scared as somebody owns my ass.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's what I'm scared of, Greg.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I'm not scared of somebody that I've beaten the last
four fucking times.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
So excuge nobody.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
We're telling a fan base that's not being a bunch
of pussies. I'm sorry, bunch of tough guys.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Everybody. Everybody's tall. Oh we're gonna we're gonna drink.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
So much in the parking lot, we're gonna black out,
and oh we're tall, and we're not gonna let other
fans inside our stadium. We're gonna bitch a fucking moan
when we have literally an elite defense maybe an all
timer in this organization. And we talked about arguing that's
one of the last decade was and we're gonna sit

(15:03):
here and bitching monk, holy shit.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
But I but I'm not allowed to say, Man, you
haven't been through enough. Then after wins, Yeah, it's the winds.
Did we lose.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I'm right with you, but we didn't. We didn't lose
fifteen fourteen. We want fourteen thirteen. Now we're doing this.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Well.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean, let's okay, if you want to be again,
everything and everything, take a step back, all these hen
take a step back. Okay, Yeah, I hear you on Seattle, Josh,
they if we haven't beaten them, if Sam Donald, if you,
if you, if you stay up at night over Sam Donald,
not you specifically, but anybody in this chat like losing

(15:53):
sleep over Sam Donald. Holy shit. H that's all because
I ain't I know about those goes.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Yeah, there's nobody in the NFC that scares me enough
to where we not we're not either favored at home
or that we that our defense can't go and shut
them down on the road. Right Look at this game
here tonight. I mean, we got seventy seven thousand points
right now, midway through the third quarter or the end
of the third quarter. You don't think either of these
teams won a defense like ours right now, And you

(16:25):
don't think like Chicago in the playoffs, you don't think
that that game is gonna speed up for kalb Williams
and he's not gonna be as effective as he was
in the regular season. I mean, come on, guys, like
you said, we just won a game. We won a
game on the road, and in theory didn't matter to
the Eagles. Sure it matters for seating wise, but you
think if they lost, they'd be sitting there like, oh man,
we lost the game of Buffalo. Were really bummed out

(16:47):
on this one. No, but it puts you in a
position to potentially host two playoff games. And you're gonna
say here, potentially hosting two playoff games that you're scared
of anybody coming in.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Well, how about that?

Speaker 4 (16:58):
You just said these means more Buffalo and did the
US and Jacob's talking about playoffs and not being able
to survive a playoffs streak where game after game your
offensive beers for a complete half that. But it hasn't
been a game after game like we've done that. It
hasn't been like over the last four games we've disappeared
in the second half. Like I hear you, if it's consistent,

(17:20):
right again, it's happened too many times this year.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'm not disagreeing with you, but like seventeen yards in
the second half.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
But I don't expect that to happen, but it did
at Orchard Park, would against the team that is damn good,
that needs this game more than we do, and we
beat and our best offensive lineman will be back in
the playoffs. So I hope that the bad stuff goes
away a guy that we never was able to win without.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
We've been winning with that a little bit enough.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
We won three in a row going into the playoffs
now and we're all still worried that this. Kansas stay
in the playoffs and this can't do this and we
had the hardest schedule on the way and all we
do is.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Just keep winning. But that's what if Kansas d It's undustainable. Tom.
That's why everybody tell me, Okay, Crystal fucking ballers.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Gotta make a change of play caller Tom right like
gotta change Kevin Botulo in week eighteen. We're gonna change
Patula right now. I mean, as a conversation I'm had
in one of my group chats, someone's gotta make a
change for what what are we making a change for?
It's week eighteen. There's no change being happened. We're defending
super Bowl champs. We talked about it on Wednesday tom
Our schedule was absolutely garbage. We still win the East.

(18:33):
We're still potentially a twelve in team. What else do
you want? How many people in the chat and how
many people overall had us winning more than twelve games
this season before the season even started. Ye would you
maybe have thirteen? I'll give you thirteen, right, But every
single one of us had eleven, twelve, maybe thirteen wins.
We're in that window. It just didn't look like it

(18:55):
did last year. We gotta forget that. We gotta throw
that mindset out of our heads. Last year was an anomaly.
We were dominant last year on every side of the football.
We are not that way. This is a new year.
This is a new team, naturally with a new play caller. Right,
last year was an anomaly. We have to put that
out of our head. This is the year we're here.

(19:18):
You put me at home with a playoff game. We're
winning that football game. Tonight was a playoff game. Did
we win the game?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (19:29):
After next week, everyone's record goes zero to zero. And
it's a one week league. It's a one week season
starting in two weeks. It's one week, you win, you
move on. I want this football team in that game
because they've done it year after year, They've proven that
they can win. Doesn't matter what last week looked like.

(19:50):
It doesn't matter what two weeks ago looked like. It
doesn't matter what last month looked like. All that matters
is one game, win and go home. I'm putting my
money on my guys.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I am due. I am to because of this.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Defense and because we have a quarterback that doesn't turn
the football over. And I don't care what his stats are,
he doesn't turn the football over. And when you do
that in the playoffs, and you do that in a
one winning, winning go home scenario, you win the game
more than you don't.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, And he had a couple of balls to say
that like we're really good, like the one a J
down the sideline that he got held on AJ.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
That is okay.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Nobody wants to talk about that ball, you know, which
again changes about if yeah, if it gets called who knows.
Right now, you're now at the one that was a
great ball you had the Dallas got or drop on
one of the first throws when it was like porn.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Obviously it was porn all day.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
And I go back to like when I told people
when Foles took us to a Super Bowl. You know,
we played Oakland here and at the time, it was
it was freezing and it was really it was. Winds
were like thirty four to forty miles an hour. People
are like, oh, tofense isn't good enough. We can't do this,
This won't sustain.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
All this stuff. And I'm like, guys, look at the
conditions of the.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Field, Like Josh Allen's an anomaly throwing him what he
in this today?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Like he's built for the Orchard Park, But.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Even him, twenty three fIF for thirty five is not ideal.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Okay, that's not a great stat line. It's an eighty eight.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Raiders, all right, and no touchdowns and a fumble, right,
and I had two rushing touchdowns. But you get what
I'm saying. Okay, So not that's like monster day, but
a big day in the rain because the conditions are horrific,
like jail in the rain. You know, you get that
aj catch, you get you get Dallas catches like balls
that were there, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Even Davonte. Okay, the numbers don't look as bad in
the second half. Yeah, but I don't care about it.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
The second half. Yeah, that extends a drive that was
a third and long. That extends a drive and probably
puts you around midfield, which means what another first down
and your field goal range and this game is out
of reach. But we don't want to talk about that, right,
We don't want to talk about those drops and those miscalls, right,

(22:17):
or there's non.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Calls you know, sorry? Sorry, yeah, yeah, because that's a catch.
Forgot that. I was talking about the back shoulder fade,
which you.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, which he almost came down with, was the ball
he would usually come down with. But the other one
that they couldn't hit the turf never did that. That
was outrage.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yes, it never moved, so I don't know what they
were looking at.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
It's amazing when you get like your rules analysts says, yeah,
that's that's a catch and field they say.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, no catch, because tells me that they want to
hang in this game. Right.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
I saw that from Jump Street, Right, Tom, you saw
that from Jump Street. You saw that on the a pass,
You saw that even on the on the the jail
and hurts the jail and hurts roughing and passer the
hit out of bounds, and you know what leads me
to believe that that was a hitt of bounce. They
didn't show a replay, they didn't try and justify it
at all. No, he still was in bounds. And then
they hit Cape. No, no, no, you never saw a replay

(23:13):
of that hit, which leads me to believe that that
was an egregious hit that they just said Nope, no
big deal.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeap and again, and Jacob, you're again. I don't think
I'm not like to disagreeing with you either, but you're right.
I mean, listen, there's way too much talent on this
offense or it not to be good good enough. We've
talked about that now. I think what Luke's saying is

(23:39):
a point to to here that they but again they
they're just not able to run the football. Well, enough
goes to it. But they played the whole second half
just like running the clock. Not the first time this happened.
But the reason they're doing it too is they're playing
to that defense.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
They're playing not to put over in these types of conditions.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I have a problem doing that in Dallas, Luke, I
have a problem doing that in good conditions in Denver,
and but I have no problem doing that against Green
Bay Detroit in this game where you're playing in freezing
cold game, Green Bay was freezing cold. Detroit here was cold,
I believe, and obviously today's game is freezing rain. So
I have no problem with you like playing to your

(24:21):
defense in the second half, but you're also giving the
ball to an expensive running back, you know, an offensive
line that's getting beat in the backfield a ton. We
had some good stuff, we had some bad stuff running
the football, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
Yeah, good eclipse. We're in a good eclipse, and but
then when we needed it to we couldn't. Right, and
I three in the game, you sit there and you go,
all right, shake one's getting five six A carries, so
there's no need for jailing the run, right, But in
that second half, that's where we we had to adjust.
You know, if we're gonna we're gonna look at the offense,

(24:58):
that's where almost jailing had to adjust and then start
using his legs effectively, not just to scramble and get
out of pressure, just to throw the ball away, right,
like scramble and let's get some yards. Let's get some
positive yards. Because Saquon wasn't as effective in that second half.
But you know again, I'm with you one hundred percent.
Don't turn the ball over in that scenario and play defense,

(25:19):
make them go to link to the field as much
as you can and play defense.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, Jesse, I mean, I agree.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
It's the most expensive offense and they the worst half
in the tire NFL history.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Guys, I get it.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, I know, I know, and I want to complain
about it too, but I also want to enjoy wins.
I also want to say it's been going on all
year where they find ways to win football games. You know,
we talked about how hard to schedule it is. We
talked about all these things, and they and another coordinator,
another new one. Look at Detroit, they're not even a
playoff team when they change coordinators. Right, We've changed coordinators

(25:54):
and he's going back. We could going back, So like,
why can't it be fair here too? Like I'm not
giving guys the passes this offensive to play better, but
they made some big enough plays to win the day's
football games, big enough, big enough that Devonte catch changes
that second half. Guys, I don't the fuck to tell people.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
You can tell me it doesn't. But it's the first
down that was needed. It's a thirty yard pass like
or at least a twenty five yard pass. So that's
seventeen yards. You can you can you can double that minimum.
You can double that seventeen yards, guys. So the worst,
the worst, And don't tell me, don't tell me what
could have should have. No, that's a catch. That's not
Oh he missed an open guy. That's not what we're

(26:36):
talking about. Oh, Devonte usually catches that ball. That's not
what we're saying.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
That was a clear and obvious catch that was overturned
on third down or second down, on a first down play.
So come on.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
I mean we've had those things go against it in
the second half too, in different ways.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
And dal hurts the fucking run.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Jalen needs to run, guys, if you want this offense
and not get stagnant.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
They got to go.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
And now I understand not going to RPO today in
these kind of conditions for sure, right, but he's got
to use his legs, guys, and he didn't and he
and he used them only a tiny tiny bit today,
not enough.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
And they weren't effective. They were just to scramble.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Roll out three for five.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Three for five isn't using your legs, but you're right scrambling. Yeah,
and uh, Fred John said, came Bill's defense through a
ton of ex out of crazy. Looks at the Eagles offense,

(27:43):
and that's what teams do. You know, they're a good defense.
You know, champs, what.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
We're defending Champs. Of course they are. And we're still
a damn good football team.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, and Jacob, that's what I've been yelling for weeks, brother,
you know what I mean. I've been yelling that it
opens their offense. I'll look at the last two weeks
and even going back to the Chargers, you look at
those that three weeks of him running around. This offense
was so much better. You put them in the pocket.
You make him a statue. When things are going well,
it's fine. But when things break down, your two or
three drives in the second half, you got to say, oh,

(28:21):
put the cape on bro and easily start running around.
Then you got to take that first down when it's there.
But again, like that first down to Devonte's a game changer.
Not making excuses. They got to play better, but it
starts to run. In the football we talk about their identity.
That's been their identity. They're never going to run from it.
But when Saquon isn't running well, Jalen's got to take over.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Got to take over. Now. I get in a game
like today, I get it real quick, Greg.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
And a game like today where you have nothing really
to play for, I understand you go into that game saying, hey,
don't run around and get hurt today.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I have no problem with.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I have no problem when you that's the game plan
in a game that's not a must win. So that's
my only excuse that I'll give them for not doing
it in the second.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Half and the box is stacked, the weather's shitty.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
What I'm saying, hey, go throw it right, and they're
gonna and the Eagle said, no, we're not gonna risk
turn the football over.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
We're gonna We're just gonna run it with a stack box.
Like I get that. I don't agree with them, but
that's what they said.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
We're not gonna turn it over. Our defense is that good?
I don't gonna agree with it. I do agree with
their defense?

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Is that good? And and and then when it did
go throw.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
It right right, when they did go throw it, they
you know again, they just couldn't come up with the
big the big play in the second half, they get
to stay on the field and third down that's their
biggest problem for sure.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
And you would like to see Tank a little bit more, right,
we talk about it week and a week out. Let's
give Tank a couple of runs in the offense. Not
just oh, Sige's hurt. He's got to come in, like
give Saquon a blow because obviously in the second half
he wasn't He wasn't that, he wasn't that effective. So
why not give a guy who runs hard downhill, you know,
and hits the hole and and and see what if

(30:17):
you can if you can gash them, gash them plays
he gets them first downs, you had nothing to lose.
But he had nothing to lose in that scenario.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Nothing to lose, you know what I mean? Nothing?

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yeah, I mean offense can adjust too, and I think
they do. But like again, when when you can't row
what up Johnny, But when you can't when you can't
run the football, like guys, it's hard to adjust. Like
they can't run the freaking football at times, So like
what adjustin would you like?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
They've done?

Speaker 4 (30:53):
They've done a bunch of different things to try to
like spice up their running game, like Tom Brady sat
here or and even talked about it and gnaws him
on the broadcast on things they tried to do this
spice a running game up.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
It's not working right, it's it's not fully working. Now.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
It's better at times, but again that's where Jalen's legs
open up.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
This whole offense.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
And that no call on AJ, right then no call
on AJ and the and the air quote dropped. They
claimed devant they had in the second half, that that
second half drops bullshit because it maybe that whole seton
maybe gets into a little bit of a rhythm, because
we all know what a first down does.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
We all know what that does.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
But the AJ puts them at the one yard line,
all right, or the two yard line, and they don't
set up, they don't get a field goal on that drive.
They actually maybe come out with a touchdown. So that
changes it, right, So I mean, come on, you know
that's my that's my issue with people, like come on, guys,
like what do we what do we want? We want

(31:57):
a better offense. We want an offense to be good enough.
I want the same thing. I want her offense to
be average enough. They gotta be average right now. They
have to be or we don't stay in the chance,
and they're.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
Gonna be better in the playoffs, They're gonna be better.
You just take the conditions just alone, and just factor
that into the game, right, Josh Allen scroll. Everybody would
take Josh out of Jalen Hurts ten times out of
a hundred times, right, one hundred times out of one hundred.
And I don't blame you. I probably would too. But
the dude doesn't win big games. Nope, he does it,

(32:34):
and he struggled today. He was the reason they were
so bad because he couldn't make it throw and was
ran back thirty yards to get sacked. So if you're
gonna sit here, do you think Bill's mafia is getting
ready to want wants to see Mitchell Trubisky.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I don't care. I don't care what anybody says.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
If Jalen doesn't make that throw, he gets crossed, he
gets crucified. After that game, the two point conversion, he's
wide open.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
One thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
So I mean, I don't want to know.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
He's Tanner McKee started one.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
An easy throw for guys, and he will probably tell
you the same thing.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, it's frustrating because it's not a capability problem. You know,
they can do it. They take the foot off the
gas play call in the second half. Yeah, and I
get it in bad weather, right, I get it again,
I get in bad weather. But again, they should be
able to take their foot off the gas a little
bit in the second half because they're paying a running

(33:41):
back a million trillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Right.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
That's also like they should be able to rely on him,
and that's what they did all last year. Guys, So
we're acting like they're taking their foot of the gas. No,
they're trying to run the football and they can't. So
it's like, yeah, it looks like they're taking their foot
of the gas, but in reality they just can't run
the ball.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I mean, it's not even a foot off the game.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Good right now?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, thanks Johnny for the super jack, he said.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Imagine how crazy this families would be if we went
for something deep and some many or a J came
up holding her hamstring. We won to be happy. Yeah, yeah,
I mean yeah, this defensive line sensational double, he said.
I'm glad the sacks slow in the stack up. We

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had so many pressures early in the season and there
weren't convert in the sack, and now defense is finishing
those plays and we are smothering teams. I think the
secondary sort of got comfortable too, double and I think
some Omar Apps you know Marcus, but I call him Omar.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
He's been sensational and she's came in. That's been a
huge fine.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
But I think at the worry and Coop and just
you know, que getting comfortable back there. You know, in
a new season, they started playing, they all started playing
better together.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
So you know, we talked about sacks and cover.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Sacks being a big part, but today was a big
part of coverage because if you notice, you know, they
were trying to contain and knock up the field too
much on the d ends, so we couldn't scramble and
that takes you being able to cover at an elite rate.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
And that's what they did. Sure they covered an elite rate.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
And that's what set this all up today.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Yeah, that was a bogus pass interference call on on Q.
You know, there you go, there you go, and Cooper's
Cooper is a machine that I Cooper is a machine
that I not necessarily in in coverage, but in in
tackling and in especially in the in the run defense
with James.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Cook spot on.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Uh chriss Jalen Carter needs to realize he can't be
blocked and take the next jump. Yeah, you know, definitely
definitely ate it up one all one with the one
playing game.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
But it was good to have him back.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Is healthy today too, all right, right, so we'll see
what what happens the next few weeks as he gets
even more healthy because.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
She ain't next week. Yeah, I mean I want to.
I don't care about the two seed and the Chicago wins.
It's a new point anyway, unless.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
They lose today, right then you throw it out in
the first half and you see what happens.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
But yeah, I actually want them to just win because
I don't want to. I just don't even want to play.
I don't want these guys playing. I think they need
to break, you know, I think a defense could really
use it. Right we talk about resting up and being
ready to go for the playoffs. Think the best thing
for a defense is, hey, go have a seat for
a week, go.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Freshing up, and let's go.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
It spells you're a fucking more on too, because then
you didn't watch the game, because Jay went through actually
a bunch of a couple of really good darts today.
If everyone wants to crown Josh Allen for throwing in
those conditions, Jalen has some big time throws in those
conditions still. But again again, I just hate hate training
for Jai when arts all the time. Bye bye, everybody

(37:08):
else out there, you know what I mean. And and
good job, good job trying to good job boat racing.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
The Raiders today and lose now the number one pick.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
That's smart, you know what I mean, even though they're
drafting a quarterback and you're not still smart, you know,
still just good job. You know, typical Giants. You know,
me and my son are going through a coloring book
and the Giants are like the only team that doesn't
have a mascot, like imagine not having a mascot.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I mean, typical loser, fucking fan based.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
And I said, at the hen everybody asked you about
the Giants, say, you guys don't have a mascot, like
you're just not relevant. Everybody else does like, well, you
guys are just too good for one Screw screw them.
Don't come in here trying to tarnish a guy who's
won more games in the last five years and franchise
won in the last two decades. Okay, so please don't

(37:53):
fucking do that. All right, I'm going with a lot
of shit, But don't be coming in here and trying
to be Oh, you know, hearts out those darts and
her serves balloons like this, Knock it off, knock it off.
It's fucking stupid. That's what it is. That's what it is.
We all know Josh Allen has a cannon. We all
we all know it. We're all watched the same game.

(38:15):
But don't tell we jailed and have some darts in
this football game. Tip because the one Devon te over
the middle was a laser beam.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
All right. So yeah, good.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
Talk Josh Allen doing the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, I love Josh Allen, but you know, call what
it is, call where it is.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
What's up, Johnny?

Speaker 6 (38:45):
What up?

Speaker 7 (38:45):
John I'm sorry, it's been a while for me to
get it together with.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Greg.

Speaker 7 (38:53):
That was the exact point I was wanting to say
that when I was back stage there the whole time.
Is what about Josh Allen in the plays? He comes
up small in the playoffs, he does you can say
whatever it is defense running game for Jalen Hurts. Dude wins.
Dude wins. We got rims.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
Yeah yeah, everyone everyone wants to use. The offense is
carries Jalen Hurts. Right, where's Josh what's Josh Allen's weapons? Well,
you give Jalen Hurts the weapons. He won, right, so
case closed, he won. So yeah, the conversation real quick.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I mean, look at some of the grabs that those
wide receivers made the.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
Day Merry Christmas grabs.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Brandon Cooks made like they made a couple of grabs
that were just absurd.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
So again, Josh Allam's the stuck. I'm not here to
I'm not here to the tarnish and that happens, right, yeah,
take it away.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
But again he missed a wide open receiver to win
the game. So again, I don't perry stating the way.
I don't care about none of the rats. Other guys
get crushed over that.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
So keep it a hundred Lamar spikes at in the dart.
People are like, see he can't throw, you know, and
all that and all that. Other guys do it, same thing,
you know, Jalen does it, same thing. Keep keeping one
hundred people. And that's my guy.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I got.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
I said last week, I think Josh Adams the best
kept in the league.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Like I just think he does everything.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
He's a monster, right, but don't but don't act like
he hasn't underachieved at times.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Don't act like he's perfect.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
And don't tell me today that that wasn't an easy
throw for nine out of ten, every nine out of
ten quarterbacks in this league. So he missed it, he
choked it. It happens. It's bad fucking weather too, Like
I said, non excuse, but it's a reason both.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Guys weren't elite today. He was Josh Adaen wasn't elite today, dude.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Like people just watch it from their couch and they
don't realize it's freezing freaking rain.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
It's thirty nine.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
It felt thirty three a kickoff, okay, and it's cold
rain and it's pouring. But it's just like, oh, well,
you know what, it's warm here, it's worn by my fireplace.
Try here throwing the nerve ball to my kid, like
you know, like come on, guys, and Jenen made some
big time throws in the rain, like the one the

(41:11):
ad on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Came out dunkey, but.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
It was a strike, you know what I mean. It
came out ducky, but but he zipped between two.

Speaker 7 (41:18):
Depend that went through his hands. I mean that that's
one that Davante usually catches on the normal den yep,
that was a big play. That was a forty yard
bomb or fifty yard bomb down the field. It was
right on target, perfect spot.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Mary Poppins teams, you're an idiot, like Seoan, you really
are an idiot, like with all due respect, like you're
an idiot.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
It's the harder schedule football this year.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
So Mary Poppin, you can you can marry popping whatever
you know her unbro up your ass, okay, because that's
what you can do with Mary Poppins and her umbrellas
or wherever Mary Poppins at place she had umbrellas, so
she could be wrong. Maybe she had something else, but
you know, just you know, see with my head's right,
but you can take her, you can take all the
umbrellas and shove him. So up your ass because it

(42:06):
makes no sense again because again you're just so wrong
because you're a Giants fan and he's want to come
in here and hate and your quarterback. Your quarterback is
not that good either, all right, So you'll you'll see,
you'll see.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
He'll be dead. He'll be dead.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
There's a lot of time on the sholf.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, he'll be dead in three years.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
So good luck. Find another another head coach. Good luck
another head coach.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Ump in New York. I'm sure, I'm sure a great
TM that's the other job.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
We'll hire another good one because he's had a great
track record.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Morens, morens.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
You know what's funny about JA. He has a cannon.
Jalen Hurts has a cannon for an arm when he
wants to let it go. I don't know if it's
the progressions that he's going through that he wants to
kind of lollipop some of these, but when he wants
to let it loose, he's got just so good as
arm as anyone else. So the arm talent conversation to

(43:01):
me needs to go away. It's more on the lines
of when does he use that arm tail, When when
does he allow that to be ripped and let it loose,
because we've seen he.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Has Mike, Mike the Greeks, my guy.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Not many people online the year you talk to you
actually like met and hung out with.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
He's an aposter, but he couldn't be more wrong.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Yeah, I mean he couldn't be more wrong in this one, right,
Like you just win's Madter, Mike, not turning it over
matters in this Like I can literally just I can
literally just go off of this week and say, each
team who won, I bet they won the turnover battle
throughout the whole leg, that the whole lig and he
doesn't do it, and he doing it like like John said,

(43:49):
a lot of times he does have the arm strength
to make every throw.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Sometimes he just.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Doesn't do it because he'd rather be smart with the football. Again,
I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying there isnt
times he is in Dodo. He'd agreed, because there is
times he does look do though I agree with you
at times, But come on, dude, you don't win this
many games in this league and you're gonna come on
here from guy's been two Super Bowls in three years
and you tell me he's dude because the ones we

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he went to, he didn't have any type of defense faith.
There's the riddle aarded by that he did not. He
did not and he carried the football team in that one,
and he had a great second Super Bowl, and he's
had great postseasons, like, oh man, he's not perfect, but
holy shit, what do we want? I think some of
you would rather just be the Cleveland Browns of the

(44:34):
world or the New York Jets of the world, right,
and just never find the guy. You never find gout
he can stretch in the middle of the field. So again,
it's wrong too. It's wrong too because you don't watch
enough games to know, right, You just don't.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
And it's fine.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
It's fine again, I'm not telling you he's justin Herbert
and Josh Allen and Mattie Stafford over the middle of
the fie consistently. It's not what me gregor John atwning you.
John made the point. He can do it. He doesn't
do it all the time, So why is that? Sometimes
Maybe he doesn't want to press threading that needle that
and it can create a turnover and progress. Progressions have

(45:19):
always been an issue, for sure, Mike for sure.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
For sure. Sometimes they think he jumps out of the
pocket too soon.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yes, there's a lot of things I'm gonna sit here
and agree with you on, but I'm gonna also I'm
gonna riddle you back this.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I'm gonna devils advocate you this.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Find me the quarterback outside of Matthew Stafford, right that
doesn't have flaws.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
And he even does Yeah, yeah, absolutely does. But I'll
give the Golden boy a pass on this one.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Find it because the other guys either don't win, right,
I mean Judgin Herbert great, you know, great intangibles.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
How many points they score? Yes? Or right?

Speaker 6 (46:01):
Yeah, that was a good game from them.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I mean, come on, like again, guys that bad week two?
So again, mister armstrength meens to do everything. Put up
what's sixteen?

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
But great defenses can't win. It's a usion.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Defense traveled in one, didn't they because they're the best
defense in the AMC.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
That's what great defenses win.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
I'm not crediting him with every win, but if you're
if he takes all the blame for the losses, why
does hen get credit for the wins? My quarterbacks are
judged off of wins and losses. So for a five
year stretch, who's won more games than he has, it's
one guy. His name is Patrick, Yeah right, but there's

(46:50):
one guy. Anything with Patrick Mahomes. So again, what else
do we want? So we had to no more defense.
So that's a problem. That's his fault. Because we had
a great running game, that's also his fault.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
Yeah, because our GM is able to fit all these
weapons on their cap, that's his fault.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
It's all his fault.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
That's his fault. It's his fault. And again we won
today and it's all his fault.

Speaker 7 (47:15):
Isn't a job of a quarterback also to play into
the scheme of a coach? Right, Maybe this isn't old Jalen,
Maybe this is Nick Sirianni saying, Hey, this is how
we win, and guess what we win. Like, I'm not
going to ever take stats over w's. Give me w's.
If you want to play for stats, go play for

(47:35):
a losing team. Jalen hurts plays for w's. Stats don't matter.
He wins. That's all we need to be worried about.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
His fans as always that he's cared about always Dad,
He's made clear he cares about and the riddle like,
and I'll get to your comment Greek, but I'm going
to hit you at this all right to what Johnny
just said, because again it's it's we're nowing it tonight
is when you ask fires in this locker room about numbers,
and you ask other guys like Jayn Carter, I'll use
so you can say maybe he's immature at times and

(48:05):
he's younger when he's sort of He pretty much set
after one of the games throughout this year that he
would rather have no sacks and have a bad game
and win than have a great game and lose. Okay,
that's coming from the immature defensive tackle who spits on
guys and isn't fully matured yet. Right, that's gonna give

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you that kind of talk, right, because I'm gonna really
another reason, what what kind of organizations he's from.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
He's from a winning culture at the college level. That
it's bigger than your fucking numbers.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
It's bigger than we need to be in the college
playoffs and we need to be one of the last
two teams standard.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Okay, that that's what he was built from, all right.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
So, yeah, Jordan Davis about the Pro Bowl, he don't
give a shit because because because that's not that'd be
me being selfish. I care about winning football games. So
down the line of this football team, you have unselfish players.
Maybe one guy who could say he's a little selfish
at times, and that's.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
A j and he's not even as bad as we
will make him out to be. To be completely honest
with people, he's not right.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
He has his moments and I'll crush him when I
think in La where I think he took some plays off. Okay, fine,
he needs to catch some balls there. But but I'll
also tell you it's not as bad as the media
makes it out either. So like man, like these guys
just want to win football games. And like John said,
your quarterback that's not that just wants to take care

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of the football.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
He wants to make the winning plays. And he doesn't
care about his numbers. He doesn't.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
He doesn't care about his numbers. Like Mike, I don't
even need to bring in because anything you're gonna say
is I don't disagree with you on That's the point.
Like you think I disagree with you when I don't.
He has falls in his game, we all know this,
But the dude's a winner. You can't argue that. Like
there's one thing about his career. On draft night, there

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are three things. There are three things you can never argue.
No matter what they held it, they stood the test
of time. Guys five years now, Greg five years, they
stood the test of time. From our Comra station was
he's a winner, he's a leader, and he's an a bosser.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Right, so those things are studid. That's the time.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
But what were the concerns growing progressions, different things like
that that it's still at times.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Been working for progress.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
But now we're gonna But that's all that matters because
what that does, that transcends the locker room.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
When your best guy making the most money, all he
wants to do is win, that's all that matters to
the rest. Tom Brady took fucking discounts of New England people. Okay,
he took discounts in New England to win. What do
you think that does to a locker room?

Speaker 6 (50:42):
Can't I can't.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
The unselfish and the goos to the locker room? What
did Tom Brady say today? The Eagles are a great
organization because they don't take plays off. They don't caught
her another block? How many field goal blocks? After point boxing?
He had this year where we don't take plays off
from our best players, Torny Davis, Jael Card.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
But what do we want? We again?

Speaker 4 (51:09):
You wanted to be perfect you want to have to
be Montana and Vic and his combination of all the
guys do these things at the highest level.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I get it. But he always does.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Is win and we want more, Like, what more can
you do if you go so if he has a
if we throw sixteen yards in the second half of
a Super Bowl and we still go to Broad Street,
are we bitching those that week lean up to it?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I'm not.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
I'm not. No, you know it's funny again, is job
Michael didn't win?

Speaker 7 (51:40):
All the time Andy McNabb didn't win.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
I had this conversation. Sorry, we're in the middle. We're
in the middle of an Andy McNabb run that every
one of us would agree with. And I hate Andy Reid,
but every one of us would agree. We'd go back
to that run all the time, right, anytime we go
back to that run. We're in the middle of it.
And yet this group Nick Jalen got over to hump
won the Big Dance, and yet it's still not good enough.

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We'd still rather have Andy mcnapp. You can't you can't win.
You can't win with this fan base.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I don't know Greek, I don't like.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Now you're gonna ask the hypotheticals tonight now, like this
is where you guys go, you know, off your fucking
rockers and and you're my guy, Like we sit home
with the stupid hypotheticals like ill if we got fanto
by Cleveland or since he Yeah, actually, I think he
would win in Cleveland because their defense is the league.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
So yes, I do.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
I think if he didn't turn the ball over in Cleveland,
they would win a lot of football games.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
Do.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I think he's gonna win Super Bowl there.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
No, but I think they'd be a ten win team
every year and a competitive one.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yes I do.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Cincinnati, I don't know, like I don't know, or other
mid teams like okay, you put them in Houston. I
bet you he wins with that defense, Like yeah, dude,
like come on, come on, like it's the unfair hypothetical crap.
Like again, I crush him when he's bad. Greg knows

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that he's on shows with me twice a week. I
don't run from giving the dude. Hell, you guys go
to the fucking nerf ball in today's conditions and we're
gonna and we're gonna sit here and just crush it all.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Continue when you're a.

Speaker 7 (53:25):
Coach, and I hear you say the thousand times a week.
Culture means everything. He sets culture in this locker room.
Isn't it great to know that our quarterback knows the
entire team. We have the best punter in the league.
He was booting sixty yarders today. It's okay to punk
the ball, especially when we have this defense. Let him

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run this team because he knows it better than us
couch potatoes sitting here watching the game.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
Now McNabb was a winner for sure, But Jalenes Jalones
went win essentially is on his pace to win more
than Donovan did, so you know what I mean. Like again,
I always look up for five, but I don't know
what five has to do with Jalen right now.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
One doesn't have to do with another. Yeah, but he didn't.
He didn't, Greek, he didn't.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Now Jalon makes that throw, you crush him. But that's
a great Josh Allen. That's a great Josh Allen missing
a throw. Why do you miss the throw? Because he's
doing his ass a lot. That's why. That's why like Greek,
you're my You're you're one of my favorite guys. So
like I mean, no disrespect, yelling and screaming at night,
but like like again, I just, I just I think

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you're you're better than this. You've been through the bad.
And what I mean by better than this isn't a
shot at you by saying better than this. You've been
through bad football year then not to be able to
sit back and just say, Okay, this guy just wins
his ship time.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I got to stop getting upset, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
I'm not saying you can't have critiques or anything like that,
but the Coimonians they do do and call him do
do and stuff like that to me is like, come.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
On, man, you're not enjoying it.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Then you're not enjoying the run because you because you're
sitting back waiting for the shoot of fall office CINDEREAUA.
That's what you're waiting for. That's what you're waiting for.
Just what the motherfucking shoot on the shoe fits like
a gaff, like a goaf.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
So sit back.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Right, enjoy it, bait you beautiful weather down there where
you're living. Why are you so stressed out when all
they do is fucking win? I love you, oh, but
all they do is win I'm right with you. If
they're fucking five and eleven, I'm burning it down and
he's getting burned with them, trust me, because I got
bullets in the chamber for jail if needed.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
But when all he does is win, I can't come
on here on the Worldwide Leader real talk and bitch and.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Moan when the dude go on the Tuesday in three
years and I bet you I got a good feeling
you might go back to a third this year, And
I'm gonna sit here and just and just and just
crush them. That's what the bad meeting in this city does.
So you guys are on the wrong station. If you
if you, if you don't want, if you want, if
you don't want controversy all time for no reason, you're

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on the wrong station and don't want over to the dial
because they're the ones who are gonna drive the clicks
for that and win all the click bait and open
up tomorrow's show with can they win with seventeen yards
in a playoff game? You can write it down that
one of the fucking super poles will be that tomorrow,
all right, a negative opening and negative poll, it will

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be negative after winning Ordard Park where it's hard to win,
but it doesn't It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They
can't defends, can't carried in the playoffs, guys, morons, not
you Greek.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
The people told me.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
Got benched and carried in the Denver super Bowl. We
still give him credit for that.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
You're right, Greek. That's what we were born in there.
We were born in the Stratsity Eagles. I can't run
from that.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
But like I was trussed today, I don't care what
the game was. The game didn't matter to us. How
zero stress of that game today.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
So we should have been he does it not win? Oh,
he does not win? And you got too much fuck
Invitehmin to be down there. You got to move back
up here then you you ain't getting this water up
here or something. You know what I mean? You are
so much better than this right now. Oh, he does
it not win? When all he's doing is the one

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doing is winning.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
He'll never get any credit. He'll never get any credit
in this In this town, it's that culture of we
have to be losers, we have to be better at
the Madden error of video games, where everyone can make
trades and make the super teams Jalen Hurts is not that.
You want to go compare quarterback to quarterback. Jalen Hurts

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is not that. Why can't us Philadelphia fans be happy
with getting w's with going to the last game and
every year and being happy that we're there. We sabotage ourselves.
I don't understand it.

Speaker 6 (58:03):
We do, we absolutely do. He didn't get any credit
because it was the Raiders. He didn't get any credit
because it was the Commanders. And now he's gonna get
all the blame because we looked shitty in the second
half even though we won.

Speaker 7 (58:14):
Even though we won. Yeah, that's it. He did enough
to win. What what happens if he tries to do
good and throws interceptions at the end. But he made
smart playsses, he made smart pumped the balls.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Not wrong.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
Did it look pretty?

Speaker 3 (58:29):
No?

Speaker 6 (58:29):
Absolutely not. But I have liked thirty yards of offense. Sure,
because we probably don't get to that last second. Uh,
we probably don't get to that last second touchdown because
we got a first down, we eat up more clock.
But it isn't it is we won a game that
didn't mean as much to us as it did the
other team. And I'll take that into the playoffs. We
go in winners of four in a row. I can't
believe we're even having negative pawk winners of three in

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a row, almost four in a row going to the playoffs,
Like it's out of control that we're any part of
negative right now.

Speaker 7 (58:59):
After a win in flow, it's absolutely crazy. We win
our division hands down, We're going to have a home
game in the playoffs, and all we could talk about
is how bad this team is. Yeah, I'm very happy

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with where this team is, not only with the result.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
I'm not gonna say I'm very happy, but I'm very
happy where they are.

Speaker 7 (59:34):
We said it earlier.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
It wins a win, but it's still there's still needs
to be stuff done there. Right, there's what team.

Speaker 7 (59:42):
Team in the NFC beats us the way we're playing
right now? What team?

Speaker 6 (59:48):
I don't disagree with you nothing, but like, very happy
means we're clicking on all cylinders. We're obviously not clicking
on all cylinders, like we could all be right about it,
don't do right?

Speaker 8 (01:00:00):
Yeah, the Greek is here, baby?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Tommy?

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
What's up baby?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
All right?

Speaker 9 (01:00:09):
Second, so like listen, tom you know we've had these
talks before I'm a Jalen Hurts fan. Yeah, I called
him Doodoo. To me, he's being due to his ship,
all right, and how I'm gonna Okay, hold on, let me,
let me, let me calm down real quick. Jalen Hurts
when he first came into the league, Listen, he was
doing phenomenal. He was doing great. He brought us to

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the super Bowl. He had a great what twenty twenty
two season.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
We thought that he was gonna take these next steps.

Speaker 9 (01:00:35):
He was on his way right, he went to the
super Bowl, he went to toe to toe with Mahomes, like,
fuck man, he's gonna take the next, the next, the
very next year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
We had that big ass collapse.

Speaker 9 (01:00:45):
He was asked that whole season for the For the
past three years, he's had a different OC.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Okay, and he.

Speaker 9 (01:00:52):
To me, if you look at his stats, they've been
on part and mid tier each year for the past
three years, it don't matter what OC comes in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Even with Shane Sichin like he was, he.

Speaker 9 (01:01:03):
Was, he was he had a great passing year, man,
but he was he wasn't. He was never that great
of a passer. He's a great he's a good playmaker.
He's a really he's a good quarterback. He's nothing great.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
There's like, I don't understand where everybody's like.

Speaker 9 (01:01:16):
All he does is win because he he's not a
prominent figure in any of these wins except for the
Vikings game. He didn't do ship this year either last
year and then he I was you you heard me
bitching all last.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Year about him, you know what I mean? So I
don't know, Doug.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
I need somebody asked me questions.

Speaker 9 (01:01:39):
No, I mean Troy Aikman, I'm not gonna I mean,
I'm not gonna talk about the Cowboys. But I mean
there's so many damn, there's so many better quarterbacks in
the league.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Like I was going back and forth.

Speaker 9 (01:01:46):
With somebody today who said, oh, Jalen Hurts is a
top five quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Bro.

Speaker 9 (01:01:51):
I mean, if you look at fucking stats like and
and Jalen Hurts, apologists want to talk about stats like
like stats shouldn't be something the league, uh keeps the
record of stats are there that tells you a story
of how well a fucking quarterback is doing it, how
how well he does or how how how shitty he's doing.
Jalen Hurts is lower to mid to lower tier He's

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not great in any fucking statistical category. Now, then you
got the apologist. I want to say, Oh, but all
he does is win?

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Okay, well he wont he won today. Does that get
a mark on his win lost record? Because he was
fucking ass, especially in the second the second half. He
made some great throws today.

Speaker 9 (01:02:30):
Don't get me wrong, he made some really, really phenomenal
throws today. But come on, man, we can't go like
we can't pick and choose when to blame Kevin Petullo
and when to law Jalen hurts, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Like, which one is?

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Is? Kevin Petullo ass?

Speaker 9 (01:02:46):
Because I mean I didn't hear anybody complaining about Kevin
Petullo in the in the first half, but all of
a sudden the second half happens.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
In the last five weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Huh, But.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
But is it really Kevin Patuto? Lot?

Speaker 9 (01:03:00):
Because at the end of the day, players shared players.
I mean, it absolutely can. But that's not what's going
on in the fan base and the fan base.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
Jalen wasn't good in the second half, but yet we still.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Won, right, No, I think I think he didn't still
hold on hold on, But.

Speaker 9 (01:03:16):
We're having but we're but we're having a different conversation.
If if if Allen hits that two point conversion, which
the guy was, why fu.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Yeah, yeah, I understand it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:27):
I under understand that you're you're gonna say he's not
though we didn't win.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I mean we we they didn't win. We won. Yeah,
you're gonna say that, But that's to me, that's been
an apologist for Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 9 (01:03:37):
And just you know, smoothing it out how asked he
was in the second half by saying, oh, but we
won the game he was was he was a disaster.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
This is why I think, this is why things unfair
in the history of this sport, in the history of it,
there's guys in fucking Canton that are in Canton strictly
because of strictly because they wont so, right, Terry Bradzels
in Canton because he won, and none doing his stats.
Drey Aikman can't all right, the guy guys are in
can I but look, look look at what manage.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
It, look at what look at what looking.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
At quarterbacks's been judge off of wins and losses.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Noboddy, but nobody can nobody can come on here every
and say it's not but that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
But that's it. But Tommy, that's Tommy, that's that's the team,
that's the team. But that's the team's stats.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
The main part a quarterback for the hand free the
sport is it's wins.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
But that, yeah, I get I get that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Okay, So let me numbers against Peyton man who's got
better ones?

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Forget the long Jeffy, No, no, no, no, it's a real conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Put Tom Brady's stats next to next to Peyton Mannings
and you're gonna tell me Peyton man is a better quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
That ain't the truth, though.

Speaker 9 (01:04:49):
You Peyton Manning, Peyton Manning was absolutely a better quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Absolutely, did Tom Brady win more? Yeah, tom Brady won more? Okay,
but I mean, ship are we okay? Jalen Hurts, Jalen
Hurts has two Super Bowl appearances? Is he better than
Dan Marino? Like? Come the fun on what? No?

Speaker 10 (01:05:08):
But but we're talking about quarterbacks. I mean, but again,
that's final decision maker. There's guys who are a king
with a stat then guys who didn't win. Though it
can go both ways for the quarterback, is my point.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Here you can, yes, but everybody, but everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
With great stats.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
And there's guys and there's guys that will go to
can with mid tier numbers that just won. There's different
types of quarterbacks. It's okay, it's not cut one way.
We've watched it for for four decades or ever long
we've all been alive for. But we watched different styles
of quarterbacks. And the biggest thing you can say is
culture wins.

Speaker 9 (01:05:45):
Doesn't culture culture culture culture absolutely, But could you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Know where I throw the line is we rob him
of the wins, like we rob him and say, ah,
you know what, he had nothing to do with any
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
We rob him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Nobody, No, no, no, no, no, no, nobody. I don't think.

Speaker 9 (01:06:00):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
I don't think anybody's saying that. I'm saying that.

Speaker 9 (01:06:03):
Everybody's saying that, Oh, Hurts is the guy, Hurts, his superman, Hurts,
his this, Hurts is that, and all Hurts is due.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Hurts does his win. Hurts is leaning on the fucking defense.
Hurts ain't fucking winning none of these games, man, He's not.
That's his facts. Go look at that.

Speaker 9 (01:06:16):
And that's where stats do play play play a matter
you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Say that Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
You can't say that Jalen Hurts is a prominent figure
in any of these wins.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
You can't.

Speaker 9 (01:06:27):
But the way he played in the super Bowl, the
way he played in the Super Bowl, ass a fucking loutie.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
He was a fucking menace both super Bowls. He was
a menace.

Speaker 9 (01:06:37):
But come on, man, that's the Jalen Hurts that we
fucking need. That's the Jalen Hurts that I want to see.
I'm sorry, I grew up in the fucking I'm from
nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
That's when I was born. I was born under Randall
Cunningham's fucking you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:06:50):
Ninety one Eagles defense. I was born in the I
watched football from back then. I'm forty eight years old.
I've seen a lot of fucking quarterbacks. I think I
have a you know what I mean, A good understanding
of what a quarterback, a great quarterback is supposed.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
To look like.

Speaker 9 (01:07:04):
Jalen Hurts does not fit that fucking bill. I don't
care what anybody says that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Oh Jalen, but all he does, all he does is win.

Speaker 9 (01:07:11):
He doesn't he doesn't he's he's he.

Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
Hear, I hear you. But these didn't win. They slashy,
but they lost a.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Lot of them did Yeah, I know Randall, Randall didn't win.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
Imagine imagine how crazy this this, this this town would
be about Buddy Ryan even more if he'd.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Won anything, of course, absolutely absolutely, you know I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:07:34):
And even if if Randall would have would have got
the coaching that he would have done, he would have
back in his early days as Negle, like he did
when he went to the Vikings ship, who knows what
would have happened, but he didn't, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
But I'm just saying that, and I hear you.

Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
Like we love all those guys, right, even Jalen all has.
We all love them all, But j Jalen's the lightning
rod that catches every stray and and every lightning bolt.
And all the guy does is what we want our
teams to do, is win, whether or not.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
You know what I think. You know you know why
I think, you know what I think.

Speaker 9 (01:08:06):
The reason the reason for that is is because he's
surrounded by so much fucking talent. Okay, I mean ship,
and I I know I brought up and I'm I'm
playing no for sure, and I think, yeah, I'm playing
hypotheticals here, But could you imagine McNabb having a j Brown,
Smitty Goddard and what mcmahb could have done with that

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corp of players on offense.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
I mean, that's that's where my mind goes.

Speaker 8 (01:08:33):
And yeah, wid receivers and huh no, Burrow has two
Hall of Fame wide receivers and he can't win.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I ain't worried about.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
I hate wins.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
I hate when.

Speaker 9 (01:08:49):
People bring up Joe Burrow and and and all these
other quarters. Like I don't even watch fucking football unless
it's my Eagles. I don't give a none of the quarterbacks,
you know what I mean, I really don't. I don't
play fantasy football and I don't play you know that bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
I watched my Birds.

Speaker 9 (01:09:02):
They're They're religion to me, and that's all I fucking
care about. All I want to see from Jalen Hurts
is fucker, dude, you know what I'm saying, Like play
the way you played in the Super Bowls?

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Who the fuck was that guy? Who the fuck was
that guy?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Because I haven't seen I.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Haven't seen that guy since twenty twenty two out right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
I mean, that's so hard.

Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
Huh, that's so hard to ask him to do every week.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
I mean, not really fast.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
You're not gonna have a pass for the weather tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Oh, I mean you can't. You can. But again, to me.

Speaker 9 (01:09:38):
That's just an excuse, especially when you have Josh Allen
throwing for two sixty two, you know what I mean.
But I mean in Jayalen and Jalen Hurts Defense Difference Comittee.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
He was, he was. I mean, hey, we have a
good defense too, you know what I mean. It is
what it is.

Speaker 9 (01:09:54):
But I don't think like the commentators were telling, we're
saying in the in the telecast, like oh yeah, look
at up Buffalo's defense hold held him, held them the
seventeen fucking yards, you know, in the second half. I
don't think that was the case. We played conservative Petulu
called a shit second half. Okay, he did, but there

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were plays to be had in that second half, some
things didn't go away, the refs got involved, whatever. But
I mean, come on, man, as a quarterback, you cannot
have zero fucking yard, zero completions and only seventeen yards
and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
That's complete bullshit.

Speaker 9 (01:10:30):
And I think I saw stat today that said it
was the first time that's happened in thirty five years.
Come on, man, you know what I mean. We got
to call a spade a spade. When Jalen Hurts does
great shit, call it out, you know what I mean.
I'm not into bullying Jalen or picking on Jalen, but
fucking call it a spade. I'm so tired of the
apologist mentality. And Tom, you were here, and me and

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Tom we met up for Orlando. Man, I live in Florida.
We met up for an Orlando Magic game, and we
had talks about Simmons when Ben Simmons was in town,
and I kept telling everybody that Ben Simmons was trashed
and I would get kicked out of group after group
because of it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
And what happened. He ended up being fucking trash. Tom,
you remember, I remember? You know what I mean. This
reminds me of the This reminds me the same ship. Good.
So our number two seed is still in play. I'm
watching him. So that's what I'm saying right now. Man,
I'm just tired of the fucking the Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 8 (01:11:26):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:11:27):
You know, it's almost like a fucking cult. Man, you
know what I mean, Like, Oh, Jalen can't do no
fucking wrong. Man, he does wrong every fucking week, and
he's got so many, so many limitations, and it's just
it bothers me when.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
Yeah, but I also think that other side is blown
out too. He's got so many limitations. But yet the
guys essentially a two times Super Bowl MV big right
in theory.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
One should have. Really, you're right, absolutely right there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
You don't lose that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Fumble to start the game. You're you're a two times
shoot browl winner in a two time shoot bow V.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
It wasn't It wasn't even that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
Ways, I got friends that are very similar to you,
Like they want to hate on Jailing and I'm not.
I'm just saying, you're all hate but they want to
hate on jail and and give him nothing but yet
but yet he's the worst quarterback of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Listen, I'm listening every time, every time wins.

Speaker 9 (01:12:24):
Every time I watch my Birds, I'm rooting on Jalen.
I'm saying, come on, Jalen, let's go. He's our He's
our quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 9 (01:12:30):
I'm an Eagle fan. I'm an Eagle fan. I ride
for the bird. Players come and go. I ride for
the bird, right, I ride for my city. And that's
that's that's where it is with me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:12:40):
But then you know, we have conversations, me and some
some uh some friends of mine, and I'm telling him,
I'm like, yo, I watched Tanner McKey. I ain't this
Tanner McKee, Tanner McKey whatever, But I'd like to see
Tanner McKee get a shot with this offense and see
what he can do. Because every time I seen Tanner
McKee go in this fucking this offense flies. With Tanner McKee,

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with a pure pocket passer, this offense has fly.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
It flies.

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
That's the answer. That's that's the answer to it all.
Jane was not a pocket passer, so he's not gonna
be the flavor for you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
And no, no, no, no, no, no no, because so
that's so that's that's acket Pascher. That's that's the wrong
that's the wrong assumption. That's the wrong assumption.

Speaker 9 (01:13:21):
And I'm gonna tell you why, because I grew up
again under Randall Cunningham.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
He's my favorite player of all time.

Speaker 9 (01:13:26):
Randall Cunningham, even though even though he didn't he didn't
win ship. You know who the most talented quarterback ever
in the league was to me, Michael Vick.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Arm strength, legs.

Speaker 9 (01:13:39):
I mean, he's the pro, He's the protright most talented quarterback.
But again, talent doesn't get you there. You got to
use your brain as a quarterback, you know what I mean.
So I would like to see Tanner get a shot
and and see what.

Speaker 7 (01:13:53):
He can do.

Speaker 6 (01:13:54):
Huh, you'll see you take a half of next week.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
I would I would love to.

Speaker 9 (01:13:58):
I would love to see it because I'm telling you
and my buddy said the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
He said, it's not gonna change anything.

Speaker 9 (01:14:05):
We're not absolutely not, you know what I mean. Unless no, no,
I mean no, I'm a very controversial and individual.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Tom will tell you, right, Tommy, But Tommy will tell
you that.

Speaker 9 (01:14:18):
But uh no, it isn't controversy to me. I just
want whoever's best at quarterback for this squad. That's who
the fuck I want, you know. And my buddy a
buddy mine, and tell me if you tell me if
you agree with this. Man, what's your name, I'm Greg, Greg?

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
What's up? Man? Uh tell me if you agree with this?

Speaker 9 (01:14:34):
So my buddy told me, he says, uh, you know,
watch Kevin Patula call a whole different scheme, a whole
different bunch of plays for Tanner McKee, then he would
call for Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
And if he and if he.

Speaker 9 (01:14:48):
Does that, that only confirmed that No, no, no, no,
no no, you're not seeing Jalen run barely. He barely
ran this whole fucking this whole uh, this whole season,
he barely ran. But if he calls a different game
with Tanner and it looks and it's flying high and
it's everything's a well oiled machine, what's that tell you
about Jalen Hurts. Kevin Patulo is limited for what he

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calls for Jalen as quarterback of his squad.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
And I don't think anybody could disagree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Yeah, I don't know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
That's because that's the quarterback that Jalen is. So but
what we won't see it, right, we won't see it
because Jalen Herds is his quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
No, I just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
I don't know, like, and this isn't this isn't Jail's
past year. But I don't know how going for thirty
two hundred yards, twenty five TV six packs and ninety
eight QB rating.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Is med.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Go look at his uh, his yards per game? Go
look at his uh yards thrown?

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Yeah, what is it? Two name, it's.

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
Got to be lowered, and especially with that one hundred,
especially with that oh you know what, it probably bounced
up from last game because he did throw for two
fifty who once in a.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Whole fucking season. Yeah, I was a seven point I mean,
come on, man, you can't throw You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
He's one point one yards attempt isn't isn't bad? What's
his what?

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
What's his uh? What's his uh? His yards per game?

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
His yards against?

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Two hundred? Okay, what's his his his total.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Total yards thirty two, twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Thirty two and twenty four.

Speaker 9 (01:16:30):
So if he gets thirty five hundred yards, he'll be
lucky in a season.

Speaker 6 (01:16:35):
Because he's only playing a half to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
You can go look at other quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
But show me the quarterbacks whatever twenty five tds and
less than ten interceptions.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
I'm the be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
That's where it's conversation ends. When you talk about Jaylon Urts,
like we talked about it being made and the staffs
being made. I hear it, But again, show me the
quarterbacks when over twenty five tds and less.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Than who's the Who's the top quarterback in the league
right now?

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Problem? Stafford?

Speaker 9 (01:17:05):
I guess Okay, now, now statn Stafford. Okay, now Stafford,
that's a good point. Now Stafford is a is a
I don't know how to say this. He's a a
layover from from the last bunch of quarterbacks that we had,
like Brady's. We had the fucking Peyton Manning's and Stafford
was playing with that. What was Stafford when we had Brady?

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What was Stafford when we had uh Peyton Manning? What
was Stafford when we had Drew Brees? Stafford was mid tier.
He was never a high profile quarterback. Now all of
a sudden, he's the top quarterback in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
This league got a quarterback problem.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
I think it's where he was playing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
I don't think he was. But he was never He
was never that great.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
He was never that matter, you know what I mean matters.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
I'm just saying that you don't win, and you go
to a place you win, now you're looked upon differently.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Yeah, I'm just saying I don't think. I don't think
any of these quarterbacks are great.

Speaker 9 (01:17:57):
I think this league has a quarterback problem to begin with,
if we're being honest, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Think Josh Allen is anything great. I don't think Joe
Burrow is anything great. I don't think Herbert's anything great.

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
I'm gonna say when you line him up, when you
line him up against all their other qbs, You're not
gonna find many guys who over twenty five touch dott
East in the air and lesson and less than ten interceptions.

Speaker 9 (01:18:20):
I mean, he's got less than ten interceptionions because he
barely throws the broo.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
But that's got he's got. He got any place, any place,
any place, any place safe.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
On your argument, like I.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Got great this, I just gave a guy. I just
gave it an argument that I didn't google, I didn't
look up. I'm gonna telling you I know, I know
the leg and I know what wins.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
I mean, the guy. That's why he wins. Everybody wants
to know why he wins because we're not giving credit
for him.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
But I'm telling you why you win win.

Speaker 9 (01:18:53):
He wins because we have a fucking defense.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Bro he wins.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
The defense.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
It's better at times when you don't turn the football
over to you put your defensive better situations.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
It's way better than the turnover. And Josh allday because
he lost today.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
If one guy turned the football over one time and
the other guy did not, that's a different Today's.

Speaker 7 (01:19:16):
Seventeen yards in the second half. We slow won the
field position battle.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
We slowly won.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Let me ask, Let me ask, because we're on We're
onto something here.

Speaker 9 (01:19:25):
What was Jalen Hurts's worst statistic statistical season?

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Was it the collapse here? I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
I'm talking to Tommy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Probably yeah, I mean not passing yard wise.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
But all right, now, compare compare, compare it, compare that season.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Of this year.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
What's it?

Speaker 9 (01:19:50):
What's it look like?

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
It's the same thing, except three goddamn picks compared to six.
So there's the difference on why you collapse or why
you make the playoffs or.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
We just got or we just gotta fight.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
Nobody's gonna come in here, We're gonna commit, Nobod's gonna
come in here and win this argument. Because the history
of the gate. That's why I'm just gonna keep going.
In fact, because the difference of making the they made
the playoffs that year, but they don't collapse. Maybe doing
fifteen picks. So look at his rating, Look at his ratings?

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Can I put all three?

Speaker 9 (01:20:26):
I just want to I just want to prove to
all three one thing real quick, all right, And I'm
gonna go to my son's rooms just so you don't
think that, Oh, this motherfucker is damn uh that's my
son right there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
But uh oh he's a he's a Jayleen Hurts hater,
and she's like that.

Speaker 11 (01:20:40):
You see that above my son's bed. I got Jayleen Hurts,
underneath my son's bed.

Speaker 9 (01:20:51):
I got.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
That. I got Jayleen Hurts everywhere, like you.

Speaker 7 (01:20:56):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:20:57):
So this isn't coming from This isn't coming from a
place of hate. None of this shit is coming from
a place of hate. At the end of the day,
that's our fucking quarterback, you know what I mean. So
you know I had to send these videos to multiple
friends of mine. This ain't coming from a place of hate.
This is coming from a place of Yo. Eagles is
our fucking that's our religion, you know what I mean,
coming from where we come from. That's our that's our blood,

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that's our religion.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
This is what we live for. I live for Eagles football.
It's my first love. I want to see my quarterback
rock and roll every fucking week, you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:21:27):
And when I have questions in my in my mind
about my quarterback, I'm not confident. I'm not confident. He
was three of thirteen on third down conversions today. We
could blame it on the rain, we could.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Blame it on whatever have you.

Speaker 9 (01:21:40):
But this is a common thing week in and week out.
We're one of the worst third down conversion teams in
the league. Man, there's a problem at the quarterback position now.
Whether it's Kevin Pittullo, whether it's shared blame, I don't
fucking know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Just fix it. I don't care, Just fix it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Oh got man? How many fumbles Jared Goff have?

Speaker 6 (01:22:05):
There's three guys that have more than twenty five in
less than ten Like.

Speaker 9 (01:22:08):
I could sit here and tell you so many things
I love about Jayalen there nobody, nobody ever said. Nobody
ever stresses the positive. Nobody ever stresses the positives. They
always stress the negatives. So that's where this cover, this
conversation always comes from.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Well, I fat the positive because the positive is he wins,
he not him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Tommy it's not listening.

Speaker 9 (01:22:39):
He's the quarter that's the It's the biggest fucking forest
in sports. A quarterback is is you know, connected to
wins and losses? No bullshit, because then you would be
putting this win today on Jayleen.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Huh. It's the quarterback driven league. That's why it's a
quarterback Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
But you just said it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Credit for chicking me into this ship, Tommy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Okay, you're slick.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Stop chicking me into this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
We can't like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
I get you, they like it can be misleading at
times where you're just judging QB's off a wins. I'm
not judging him just off of the wins, like I'm
judging them with a body of work of wins.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Like you're talking about QB.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Ratings that have been ninety eight plus all but one year,
like over one year, Like I mean, we want to
go to stats.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
I give a great one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
That's an easy tell if a guy that's good years
or bad years, and it's the easiest one to go to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
And and but it's like he doesn't do enough.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Can you haven't throw the ball forty times a game?

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
No game twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Right, you shouldn't be you shouldn't be too far right
or too far left.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
You gotta have a goddamn brain too right in life,
you need to have your own thoughts, your own opinions, period.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
That's not that's not what you be right, And that's
what's gray about.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
That's what's great about a free world, right naturally, is
everybody have their opinions on it. To say, the quarterback position,
you shouldn't be too far right with him or too
far left with him, like we shouldn't be. I'm not
gonna sit here and defend everything he does like I'm like,
I'm a he's paying my mortgage, right, there's got to
be a bounce, right. So I'm gonna tell you what

(01:24:20):
I think he does wrong at times. But I'm also
giving him a lot of a lot of credit. Where
I've seen lesser quarterbacks get tons of credit for right,
he deserves that same credit.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
That that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
Like we've judged quarterbacks off a wins forever and when
it comes to jailing, we stopped. And that's why things
unfair because it's not just always had great defenses. Now
we did not have a great defense. We did not
we are an okay, one. They were not great. They
were top twelve in football, but they weren't great.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
So since when did we laud mediocrity in the name
of wins?

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Though?

Speaker 9 (01:25:01):
Okay, and when I say that, like he's such a
mediocre quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
When he when did we hold on? That's a great question,
because I'm gonna I got I got the board in
the chamber for it because he super Bowl when we
super Bowl and a guy won a Super Bowl MVP
and he loses the coordinator again and comes into another
year with a new one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
But all he does up and down the year, it's
it's keep his team.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
On track, right Baker Baker, Baker Mayfield did the same thing.
Baker Mayfield had a had.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
A had a goddamn Super Bowl.

Speaker 9 (01:25:37):
We're just we're just talking about having it having a
new coordinator, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
You can't blame that ship off of a fucking new game.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Because Baker had a terrible year this year because of
the change course he was he was having a good year.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
I don't know what happened the past, but no.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
I mean, I'm not again. I didn't sit here for
five years of blame coordinators, right, That's not my game.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
I blame players more I blame coordinat but there is
something to be said about another one, another one again.
When you get paid one hundred million dollars, babe, you
got to carry the coordinator.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
So I'm I'm when you talk to me, I'm a
guy that's gonna say it both ways.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
But when your body of work over five years is winning,
and you just got done winning a Super Bowl and
your Super Bowl MVP, holy shit, I can have a
little grace.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Maybe I can have a little bit of grace swing a.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
Little bit of a down year offensively, I can have
as all as I'm back in the postseason. I'm still
what I consider the best team in the NFC. And
if everybody wants to talk about our teams, be my guest,
come here and we'll we'll we'll play the game so
like again, like I'll crush.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
And we lose the plays.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Man, why is our Why is our? Why is our
running game so bad?

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Well? I think and not having Lane hurts. I think lost.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
I mean we were we were still asked when when
we had Lane.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Well, I think Dickerson's hurt, and I think Cam Jurgens
is hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
Jordan the trash cam Cam Jurken is complete trash. Well,
I don't know if you I don't know, if you
watch the line during the game of the back, it's
the back he with he he whiffed on so many
fucking blocks today, whift on him. So I'm gonna I'm
gonna tell I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you my theory.

Speaker 9 (01:27:18):
My theory on why our running game is not where
it was last year is because teams are focusing on
the running game and daring Jalen Hurts to throw the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Okay, you can see, bro, watch.

Speaker 7 (01:27:33):
Me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
I gotta tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Find me the guy who's that over two thousand yards?

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
No, no, no, no, no, it's important finding a guy
who's at over two thousand yards and went on to
play in the Super Bowl, right, Finding the guy that
repeats that year or has a really good one the
running back.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
No no, no, that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
That's not what I'm saying at all. That's not what
I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:27:57):
I'm saying here, I'm between the finish time after the.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
Running back position. Afy're two thousand yards. There's guys have
it down here. Let me keep going with this. David
down here. I think it's twofold on why we struggle
running the football. I think it's the offensive line is
not playing at the cowboy they did last year, and
the running back naturally will have a down year that
following year. There isn't the same bursts. And if people

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out there weren't telling me it's the same fucking burst,
we ain't watching the same game because he's had holes,
he's had the opportunity to break stuff and he breaks
twenty yarders instead of sixty five yards.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
You don't, you don't. You don't see them lying backers
cheating up. You don't see them linebackers cheating up. No.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
I think there's cheatah times, but not as much as you.

Speaker 9 (01:28:41):
They're cheating a lot, Bro, they're cheating a lot, and
they're cheating a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Their first instinct is the run. They're their first because
they don't resuspect the cheating last year. No, they were
not cheating last year. They were last year when.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
You were in Week eight, they were even their wives,
they were they were Sharon Moore.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
I mean there were Sharon mooring up in here. They
were cheating so hard last year too.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
I could I could be wrong. I could be wrong to.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Right, it's about last year.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
The burst was there, it was electric, and it was new, right,
it was new for the league, so it was a
lot of new factors. Who do we shut down now
you come into I told you it's a it's a
bunch of things. Like when you win a Super Bowl,
that next year is always hard. Look at all the
teams that won it. They don't go back and win
thirteen games the next year.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
They don't. They do not.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
They have a little bit of a down year. So
you're watching it happen. Offensive line a little bit of
a down here. No back in the history of two
thousand yarders came back to dude.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, So you ascue.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Factor that in to an offensive line that's banged up, right,
had a long year themselves, right and and and that's
why I think that the running game struggles. But freaky
it's so easy, big because now you can't do it
today in the conditions.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
He can't. He can't. I'm not gonna bitch about it.
This is where it is right here. You just it
should be r P O City.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
That's what the that's their about, and it should be
I when they when they're not out of the gun.
It should be everything r P O formatic, because should
when you r PL.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
When you r PO and somebody's got a freeze, me great,
they have.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
They had no r pos only a year. They forgot
about the They didn't even add that into the.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Last three weeks. They ran last three weeks more not today.

Speaker 9 (01:30:24):
Because as you let me ask you your opinion on something,
we've seen the Eagles zude this ship time and time again.
I feel like they did it last year as well.
Do you feel and this is gonna come out silly?
Do you feel like they've been playing possible this whole season?

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
Yeah, because because Bill answered this question, answer this question earlier,
I'm telling you the I'm gonna go. This is agreed
to disagree Radio mikeet The Greek is family, so we
can you know, you guys can crush him in there today.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
You can crush him and he's wrong because he is wrong,
all right, But.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
I'm never wrong. We're never wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
When he gives a ship. So onlybody that's upset about
is is they give a ship.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
That being said, my job is to calm you all
down because I gave a ship like everybody else does.
I see the false too. But after a win, I
cannot come on here and be negative time like this is.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
This don't feel like a win, Tommy, It don't feel
defens this lead.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
This is aighty five bears. This ain't nobody in the
league shutting people down like this. And when they're trying
to give you the game too. They ran a clear
pick play. They even get the goddamn touchdown, a clear
pick play that gets.

Speaker 6 (01:31:33):
Caught all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
I mean, Omar Epps was in another movie. He was
on his ass. He got picked, so a fucking stunt.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
That. Oh, that's why I'm excited because I love I
said to my son today, why are you fired up?
Because I said, I love belt and the ex motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
That's what I like.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
I like coming into your building, all right and not
doing things great offensively and just taking that belt in
the ass.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Oh goddamn day and there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
That can be on the field for sixty fucking minutes
and they're gonna bend and they're never gonna fucking break.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
And that's that's crazy, man.

Speaker 9 (01:32:07):
That But that's that's where that third that third down
conversion rating. Okay, he's gonna end up biting us in
the ass, because listen, everything gets gets worked up a
notch in the playoffs. You cannot keep our defense on
the field for sixty minutes, Jalen, you gotta take control.
Stop fucking running diagonally, you know, towards the right right
side of the fucking end.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Zone, just to throw the joe joe.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
They've held up for seventeen fucking weeks. Like everybody answer,
how long can they hold up?

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
For?

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Tom I don't know. They just hold up again?

Speaker 6 (01:32:37):
Like you, how long?

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
Maybe they can hold up to the super Bowl, Bruce,
Like stop ansking how long they've done it?

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Old freaking year. How long? I don't know? They got
four more weeks in them?

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
Holy shit, enjoy it. Sit back now you ask the
question about playing a.

Speaker 9 (01:32:52):
Due Tommy, Tommy, you know, you know we need to
start taking shots in this fucking You need to calm down, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
I got like a shot of tequila or some shit
man cozomigos.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
But now terms of them playing koy.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Like Bill asked earlier, I could absolutely think that they
believe that they're good enough in their division to win
their division and be a playoff team, that they do
not need to show him on the round all year
and he's still ran. For him, it's five hundred yards, right,
so it's not like he didn't run at all. But
I get Jail at seven fifty. You understand, like Jail
to me the legs, like Mikey Greek. The best thing

(01:33:31):
you said, he's a playmaker. That's why I say every week,
the dude's a playmaker. Take a way to playmaker part.
You take a big part away from his game of course.
So yes, I do think that once playoff time comes,
it's win it all costs. And I think the bigger
thing is what do you know about Jalen? The one
thing we can't run from is it's winning all calls
for Jail.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
The one thing that I know about Jalen.

Speaker 9 (01:33:53):
The one thing I know about Jaelen is he can't
be rattled. You're not going to get into his brain.
That's that's the one quality of is that I man
like God bless you. You know what I mean, Because
you can't rattle Jared Goff. I'll tell you what. You
hit hit him one time he's rattled. You hit all
these quarterbacks they're rattled. Jalen does not get fucking rattled.
He's stone faced, he's.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
Looking what the goat said about him today. The goats
said that about him today, and the goat said a
lot of good things about him. So you know, I
listen know a why what Brady says about him? Because
Brady crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Maybe I thought you were talking about Peyton Manny.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
No, Brady, Joe, it's a job Brady talk about just
like never getting rattled. There the same things you talked
about you Brady talk about him. Because Brady's had the
years where numbers weren't good, but he then turned the
football over. You understand, like you go through Tom Brady's

(01:34:46):
years and he had very similar ones the jail On
Hurts go through. They did that their defense because of
the defensive mind the head coach, right, and that's what
they were. So they ran the ball and they and
they took the ball away and they played great defense.
Now there was one year where he had the most
explosive events of all time. Right now, you know we

(01:35:06):
have those type of playmakers to be that. But again,
I don't know why we don't go out and we
can't carve you up.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
For three hundred yards again, that's all the fuck I want,
That's all I want, But like, is it the same
damn thing?

Speaker 9 (01:35:23):
So is it so hard to ask when you have
somebody like Saquon Barkley in the backfield, you have Smitty,
you have fucking aj Brown, you got Dallas Goddard, How hard.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
Is it to fucking carve up teams? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 9 (01:35:35):
Like like, like, if you're that quarterback, if you're a
quarterback in this fucking league, your prime, your your your
your prime, uh job is to throw the fucking football,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
You're in the NFL, So why aren't Why isn't Jalen
Hurts throwing for two fifty plus?

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
He can't.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
He barely eclipses two hundred. That's my problem. How do
we have all this?

Speaker 7 (01:35:58):
How do we how do we have all this?

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
How do we have all this fucking talent?

Speaker 7 (01:36:02):
Are we talking about winning by twenty five points?

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
For winning?

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Like, listen, listen everything. You don't want to admit it,
you don't, you don't want to admit it. But the
way you win fucking matters, it does Okay, listen, The way.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Matter in the postseason, it matters.

Speaker 9 (01:36:26):
It matters what you put on tape because that scares
the ship out of future teams, future defensive coordinators.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
It's god, I can't even explain it, man, just.

Speaker 6 (01:36:37):
Get I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
I can't explain it. But it matters. It also matters
in the in the psyche, like right now, the offensive psyche.

Speaker 9 (01:36:46):
All year it's been like, fuck, man, like, what are we?
What's our what's our what's our identity? What's what are
we gonna do this week? Are we gonna have a good?

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Good week?

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 9 (01:36:55):
When you have teams and offenses that you know, constantly
week in week out, they're carving up defenses, you know
they get on this uh.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
A, man, it's so hard to explain. But when they
when they get on this run okay, and they.

Speaker 9 (01:37:08):
Know they're good, and they walk out there and they're
confident and they're carving up teams, it does something to
the psyche of your fan base, something the psyche of you,
of your squad.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
It does something that to the psyche of your opponents.
And that's what I think we're forgetting.

Speaker 7 (01:37:25):
Our our motto, our staple for this team is not
making mistakes and winning. Can't we live off of that?

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
I don't think, and I don't think so. I really don't.
I really don't. I'm gonna be honest with you. I
really don't think that's good enough, man, I really don't
think that's good enough.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
I think I know you're a little far away now, right,
and you're not you know you're not on you know,
I don't broad and pat it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Hey, I was that I was up there for the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
I know you are.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
I know you are right, But listen to me.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
Listen when I come up. You're gonna sit here at
the end of the day, we're talking dynasty. We're talking
maybe four and seven years type conversation, right, this hypotheticals, right,
and we're gonna see her.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
That wasn't good enough, wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
I don't think you're playing safe. I don't think you're
playing playing playing safe is good enough.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
I think, in my opinion, I think don't. I don't
think that frandfathers.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
I don't think that war agreed and this goddamn city
is rolling over in their graves here in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Is not good enough.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
I don't think that's good enough. I don't think you
do anything. I think you're leaving a lot of meat
on the bone that I don't think kill.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Out tells me is wrong by comment that everybody me wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
I said, we've become a little booge and it's okay,
but a little boogie is a fan base.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
I think you. I think listen, you're trying to be
let me ask something.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
The knockhof and we got in New York City when Rocker.

Speaker 9 (01:39:00):
Wh when Rocky went in into that ring against Apollo Creed,
was he playing is safe?

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
No motherfucker, you gotta go in there and you gotta
beat his ass.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Quarterback ever played the safe in the biggest moments because
I don't believe you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
And that's that. That's the deal. That's what I'm talking about.
Is I need to see Jalen hurts that the Jalen
hurts that that won that Super Bowl. I want to
see that week in week out.

Speaker 9 (01:39:22):
I'm not saying he's got a fucking play just like that,
but God, I understand that, man, but.

Speaker 6 (01:39:28):
Put seventeen yards up in the postseason, Walt Wall have
that same conversation with my.

Speaker 9 (01:39:34):
Man showing shot. Shout out to my my man Sean Spowman,
because he just chucked back. He said, he said, I'm
a fucking natural. He said, I'm a fucking now I'm
start this show. Y'all know that, right, Tommy, I just
took it over.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
I'm start.

Speaker 6 (01:39:51):
Next week too, huh, and you get clip it out, man.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
I just you know, I just want to see more
from this offense.

Speaker 9 (01:40:00):
And I just want to see I just want to
have that confidence to go into the into the playoffs
that Hey, listen, I know, I don't care what defense
we go up against. Listen to Bears got a good defense.
There's a few other defenses out there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
I want to I want to have that. I want
to have that.

Speaker 9 (01:40:13):
Yeah, not tonight, definitely not tonight. Rock Party actually showed out.
But I just want to have that confidence.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
And uh, you know, I hope they're playing possible. I
hope they.

Speaker 9 (01:40:23):
I hope Jalen just comes in and is the Jalen
of of last year's Super Bowl because he was untouchable twice.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
What's wild? Am I asking so much of him? Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
You just don't.

Speaker 6 (01:40:44):
Win right after the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
I understand that, But look at each wind, Look at
look looking we haven't even.

Speaker 6 (01:40:49):
A playoff game yet. Like playoffs, we're all there, We're
all right there with you. You are a regular season
game Week sixteen, and he had a down game.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
Oh, it's been all season. It's been all season, all season.
It's been a down season all season.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
That's not true, though it is. It is you, Tom,
Can I hit you with something? Find me again? Another?
Find me right?

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Where's Walter tonight on a two dates? Great?

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
Not? I mean it?

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Find me the fucking quarterbacks out there, guys that win
without a running game. Find me those motherfuckers. Find me
because there ain't nobody. There ain't a guy in the
answer this sport that's one without a running game, that's
won the Ultimate Prize without running games.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Find me. Find me a running game.

Speaker 9 (01:41:33):
Find me a running game that oh ship, Find me
a running game that does well without a passing game.

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
Why did everybody get quiet here? Why did everybody get
quiet here?

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
Act like we're gonna act no, No, I love him.
We act like he can't throw it, though again I
watched he.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
Can throw it. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
I have no problem with his arms. I have to
have a problem with I have a problem with his
mental when he This is where I'm going to tell you.
This is where I'm going to tell you that if
you had eyeballs.

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Not you guys like I can sit here forty three
years old on a couch and know from the history
of this game, from the history of the sport, what
a running backs year would be following that type of year.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
I can tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
I don't need listen. I don't need ESPN Sports and
Science or whatever the else called. I don't need anything to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Tell you how that's going to play out.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Right to the fact that you go out trade for
a running back, you go out trade for once and
he don't see no carriage, and when he.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Does, he's explosive.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
That every good combo, every good running back combo in
this league, and a thunder and lightning combo, every good
one in some fashion. Montgomery Gibs, they didn't pan out
this year, but they're good together, right, And you go
to Chicago, they got a good combo.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
You go around the league, it's it's usually two guys, right,
And it doesn't mean all the time. We had more
two guys last year than we do this year. So
my problem with this offense and the coaches is, I
understand that's your most explosive player.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
I get it. I get it's hard to eliminate some
of his carries. But you know what you need to do.

Speaker 4 (01:43:07):
What you need to do with September, October, November, baby
is you need to limit the motherfucking carries. And the
fact that I consider and tell you that that would
help this offense months ago when I told him and
it didn't listen. That's the problem. You can scheme me,
you give me everything else. You guys are smart enough
to know schemes. When you don't have the bursts, there's

(01:43:28):
a difference. He doesn't have the same bursts because he
needed less attempts this year.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
His attempt would be one hundred. That's right now.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
And I don't see a change. I don't see a
change in his burst. I really don't. I do.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
I really don't miss the miss the missing because last
year I think I think it's.

Speaker 9 (01:43:46):
I think it's the offensive line, just like now, blowing up,
not blowing up the defensive line.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
That's it's it's all offensive line. Ship.

Speaker 9 (01:43:53):
I think see him and him and him and uh
and Bigsby. They're two separate run styles. Has that jump
cut Okay, Bigsby he knows what gap to go through
and he just hits the gap.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
Had two completely separate stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Yeah, when you're in a goddamn jungle gym. Somebody's goddamn
jungle gym with bet.

Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
When guys end up in the backfield and you're juking
too much, that's a recipe for not success.

Speaker 7 (01:44:21):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
So that's my difference is you have to show something
else at the same reason that I yell about jal,
you have to show something else, like Bigb's averaging freaking
six yards?

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
Academy, Yo, can you can you hear me? Put up
your you can hear me? I can't hear anybody. Did
somebody mute me? No?

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
Because I want to be able to hear you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
But Bigsby wanted to Like again, Bigsby has forty two attempts.
He's averaging six point four yards in a den, right, right, Johnny.
So like it's right there that you have that a
little bit of thunder and lightning, And now I think, say,
let me look at it. Get two hundred and eighty attempts.
Let me see what he had last year, right, just
in the regular season. See last year three forty five.

(01:45:08):
So I guess you could argue the attempt to down
a little bit, right, But it's also be on the
field as much.

Speaker 7 (01:45:16):
But to take what you did last year and expect
it to happen this year. You said it earlier. It
just doesn't happen in NFL history. It's not going to
happen this time. Our offensive line is absolutely deciminated. I
was at the game a couple of weeks ago against
the Raiders and Linvin Dickerson. He can't even walk. The

(01:45:38):
guy can't even walk. He's just trying to be out
there and be a warrior. He's one hell of a
pass bocker because he takes steps back the pass block,
but when he's got the power off the line, he
can't do it. He doesn't have it. Same thing with Jerkison,
just doesn't have it. These are are dying right now,

(01:45:59):
and that's why our running games hurting. But this week
coming up, nobody should play. I don't care about winning
or losing. Everyone should rest. Let's get ready for the playoffs.
I don't care how many home games we have or not.
I'm not afraid of going down the road to any
team in the NFC and winning or or even looking good.

(01:46:21):
Let's just get healthy. That is the main goal for
this team. And I know that he's more. I want
to look pretty. Of course you want to look pretty,
but let's win, and by winning, we need to be healthy.
That that should be the goal next week.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
No, I agree with you, I said everybody. Next week,
everyone everybody get Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:46:45):
I go up, I get a half.

Speaker 7 (01:46:48):
I don't even do that, I go half.

Speaker 6 (01:46:53):
The two seeds in play you have to, you have to.

Speaker 9 (01:46:58):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of bench in anybody for
a whole game. I think you got to get them reps. Uh,
let them get a few, get it, let it, let
them get a few series, you know, create something good,
create some.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Magic, give it, give us a score and uh, and
get them out.

Speaker 7 (01:47:16):
That's the three seed. Where are we going? Seattle? Chicago?

Speaker 6 (01:47:22):
Do you go to Chicago?

Speaker 7 (01:47:24):
I'm not afraid of going to Chicago. That team does
not scare me one day.

Speaker 6 (01:47:27):
It has nothing to do. It has nothing to do
with being afraid. It's just being able to be home
for two weeks in a up, something this team hasn't
done all year, and making a team come into your
house in the playoffs and beat you.

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
You're saying, three seed, Yeah, you still get the first
home playoff game in the three seed?

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Yeah, we were we weren't we weren't the one seed
last year.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Here we were.

Speaker 6 (01:47:52):
We were the two seed.

Speaker 9 (01:47:53):
We were the two seed last year, and then then
the one seed, the one seed ended up losing. So
I mean we had we Yeah, Detroit ended up losing
and then we we basically had the one seed.

Speaker 7 (01:48:04):
Right after that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
So we we We had we because we benched. Yeah,
because we bench our guys. Week eight team, we didn't
play anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:48:11):
I'll do it again, yeh, but I'll do it again.
I'll do the same thing again because they need it
more than last year. Like they all need the week off.
I know, the two season play.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Greg, Go win a game with your backups against a
bad team in their backups. That's how I look at that.
Go be the team that's looking for a draft, looking
for a good draft spot, you know what I mean. Seriously,
that's where I'm at, Like, go play some guys, a
few guys, maybe some Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:48:36):
I mean, you can't bench everybody. So that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
I think I benched.

Speaker 9 (01:48:41):
I benched Jalen Garden. I benched, I benched the uh
I benched Jalen, I benched, I benched Laine. I mean
I should Yeah, I'm benching Cam j Cam Jurgen and
Dickerson to let them all get just get healthy, man,
because what I saw from Cam Jurgens today home my god.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
I mean, he's letting guys just fly right by him.

Speaker 7 (01:49:10):
What I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:49:11):
The commanders are commanders do play dirty though, You're right.
That's why I said, That's why I go a half,
you know, maybe maybe a quarter and a half, you
know what I mean. It's like that old old school
to me, it's the old school third preseason game, right,
you get him the halftime and then get them out.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
I mean, you know, you know what kind of coach
they have too? Man, you know what's his in the face.

Speaker 12 (01:49:33):
He's like, okay, yeah, yeah, we'll see him in a
couple We'll see him next week, but we'll see him
in a couple of weeks. You know, they're gonna try
something cheap, you know what I mean? Yeah, And I
can see that cheap the cheap shot artist being Frankie.

Speaker 6 (01:49:49):
Louvo Yeah, Frankie Louvio. Yeah, he's he's a scumbag waiting
to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
I don't Again, I don't care about the two seed.
I don't care about having to go to somebody else's building,
and I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
Tell you why.

Speaker 4 (01:50:00):
Okay, no again, I'll just go back to where it's
all started from great defenses.

Speaker 6 (01:50:05):
I don't care if I'm going to somewhere else, but
I hear you, I don't. I'd rather be here.

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
Yeah to the four year old again that you can
take this defense to Brazil, London, Australia. You could circle
the globe with them and they'll travel and whoop somebody's ass.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
So again, I prefer to be like you're saying, I'm not.
That's where I'm That's where I'm not agreeing with you.
But in no way, shape or form. When the defense
like this, I'll go on the road all three. You
can just leave me on the sure. I mean, that's
how Confraem and the defense.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
But I'm not and I'm not of that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
They need this week off.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
Yeah, and I'm not.

Speaker 9 (01:50:42):
Too worried about Chicago, man, because you got to think
of the defensive coordinator that we have in Vic Fangio.

Speaker 4 (01:50:48):
He's already about them because they have a quarterback that can.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
No no.

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
But a lot of the quarterbacks left their statues. He's
the one who's not. That's why they worry me. They're
they're in close games all time. Tonight was the first
time they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
Come through at the end. But they're in.

Speaker 4 (01:51:12):
They're in dog fights, and they'll play any style you
want to play. You want to win seventeen fourteen, they'll
play that style. And you want to get a shootout,
they can play that one too.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Like they're good.

Speaker 4 (01:51:23):
They probably scare me a little bit more than everybody
else because of the quarterback ability to do things adda
live wise.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
They don't be don't forget about their running back.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
But bro go send me in twenty two or three.

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
You'll go take me to eighteen degrees in Chicago with
thirty five hour wins, and let's just go play a
dog fight together in the trenches. Because I know if
I'm going to play, if I'm gonna get down the
trenches with teams, I'm gonna end up winning those games.
I feel confident in myself if I'm want to get
if I'm gonna get down in dirty trench talk that

(01:51:57):
we're gonna come.

Speaker 6 (01:51:57):
Out in time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
And we talking about the defense of the offense.

Speaker 4 (01:52:02):
I don't give a ship. What's one matter to your point?
I'm talking more to defense. You know what I mean
right now, I ain't that. You don't get me started
on San Fran. San Fran will come in here and
get their ass whooped. I want San Francisco. I've been
clamoring for that loser, Kyle shotthand to bring is bring
his frauds into this tack. Come on back in again, Kyle,

(01:52:25):
because we all know you're a loser, all right. I
would love to see you, guys, would love to have
you with your beat up defense, all right, and all
this great offense.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
Haven't punning in six months? All right? Get the pun already,
Get the pun already. Oh, bring him in please. We'll
probably lose that game since.

Speaker 9 (01:52:47):
I'm not adamant, I mean no, not if they come
into Philly. They're not playing in cold weather like.

Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
No, I would love them. I mean, who can come in?
Who else can come in? Who's our possibilities right now?

Speaker 6 (01:53:00):
Yeatle Seattle's got the one seed right now? Sure it's
the It's rams are the packers.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
I'm not worried about.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
Go home because that's all you're going.

Speaker 7 (01:53:19):
You come on.

Speaker 6 (01:53:21):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:53:23):
It too?

Speaker 6 (01:53:23):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:53:25):
My internet's all jacked up Carolina or Tampa, whoever win's
that Carolina is the four.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
Uh how about how about we just don't give a fuck.
Whoever comes in here, don't put a whooping on him.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
This is what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
Only give the fans.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
I really don't care who comes.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
I don't, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
I don't pay attention to that ship. Whoever we're lined
up against.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
Usually curious because I.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
You know, I like to tell people again, now, I'm
not nervous about anybody. That's That's the whole point of it.
You know, there's one there's one team out there because
the quarterback can make plays that make you a little
nervous at times.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
But overall, man, I'm not scared of any of these
teams anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
All these quarterbacks, All these quarterbacks got mobility.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Yeah, mobility. I mean like that cat Donald will get
smacked around trying to run around on us, and now.

Speaker 6 (01:54:24):
The rams would come, would come to us that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:27):
Now again, people are gonna get all scared, but they
haven't beat us in in fucking three years. So you know,
I just feel like we we got their number a
little bit. It doesn't mean that number doesn't end.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
Oh yeah, I don't like playing that role man.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Six.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Tampa Bay couldn't come in, couldn't come in and beat
us in cold weather. Either cutting down the vit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Can san Franz will get the one or.

Speaker 6 (01:54:54):
Not san Franz the five. San fran can still get
the one.

Speaker 7 (01:54:58):
They're the only another team that can.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
They play Seattle next week.

Speaker 6 (01:55:03):
They play Seattle next week.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
Oh okay, well there you go. Well okay, well what
can the Ram?

Speaker 6 (01:55:08):
And then again, so here you go, right the two seed,
the two seed gets green Bay to beat up green Bay?
Right now, two seed gets beat up green Bay. So
that's why I'm saying, you do what you can to
go take the two seed because I think even the Bears.
I think the Bears have a tough game next week.
I think they might play Detroit.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
As much as i'm my confidence and beating the Rams,
I could do without seeing them in the wildcard round.

Speaker 7 (01:55:35):
Are agreed, exactly, we see we're seeing Carolina or Tampa.
I don't care about either of those teams.

Speaker 6 (01:55:45):
We can't.

Speaker 7 (01:55:47):
Ye first round. That's who we would see, right, No,
it would be three verse four no or three verse
five four verse five four verse five. I'm sorry the
Bears played the Lions next week.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
You're right, you're right, three verse three, verse five it
would be three.

Speaker 6 (01:56:13):
Five, you're right, and the Niners play the Seahawks.

Speaker 7 (01:56:19):
Mm hmm jesus yeah, mhm.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
Yeah, we'll say, where's that Lions game at home? Where Chicago?

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
Ho?

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
I'll just had it hold on like in Chicago, like
they played at home on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 6 (01:56:50):
Home against the Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
Yeah, four? What's so?

Speaker 7 (01:56:58):
What's what week yet?

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
What's our play for the two seed? What has to happen?

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
Chicago loses and I think that's that.

Speaker 6 (01:57:07):
Yeah, we gotta win. They gotta lose.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
Oh, that's it.

Speaker 6 (01:57:13):
And what we play at one o'clock because they hold
the time breakers, so if we both if we both win,
they take it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
Where's that Chicago Detroit game at Chicago? Ship and Detroit
is playing like as two?

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Okay, Yeah, that's a tough. That's tough, all right?

Speaker 6 (01:57:35):
Well, an you know Dave Campbell wants to try and
stick it to him. Of course, what's the thirty seven
fourth downs?

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
What would be these?

Speaker 9 (01:57:44):
What what would favor us in the end being the
two seeds or the third seed if it plays out
that way?

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
Two? I think you get Carolina name three he would
get the Rams.

Speaker 4 (01:57:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Like again, I mean, I'm not scared of the Rams,
but I prefer to see them in a divisional round.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
That's a that's a huge.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
It would really would.

Speaker 4 (01:58:10):
Really prefer to get a Carolina or even a Tampa team.
I know, you know we've we've had our issues with
them at times, but I would again.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
And much round too. We would get Green Bays.

Speaker 4 (01:58:25):
We can't see anybody in the South. Yeah, so sorry,
we can't. So it gets Green Bag instead of the Rams.
And obviously Green Bay is a little bit banged up
right now. So again too hard. Two teams that are
well coached and good, good football teams.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
So you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:58:45):
At the end of the day, you just got to
line up whoever you place against man and I'll bet
on I'll bet on the defense against anybody offense.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
A different story, but that's why I was just again,
I'm back to just I would just sit these guys.
They wouldn't even play next week, and if we lose,
we lose it. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried
about I'm worried about going and healthy.

Speaker 9 (01:59:06):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you're talking about if
you're talking about defensive starters. Yeah, I agree, But offense,
I think the offense needs to stay on the field.
I think they need the reps.

Speaker 4 (01:59:17):
You can't do that though, because like I got two
offensive lineman and I know are clearly hurt, and Jurgons
and and Dickerson. So I feel like I I would
say those guys to get them off their feet. That's
true too. If you have, I mean, play in their place. Fine,
But now I'm gonna put my quarterback out there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:59:36):
I don't want passes quick passes. But that's not Jalen
style either.

Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
I wish it was.

Speaker 9 (01:59:43):
I'd love to see him, you know, drop back under
two point five seconds through.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
The ball now and the two seat does give you
another two home games? Like I get the impact of it,
for sure, I just don't. I don't know what's more important,
the rest or the seeding.

Speaker 7 (01:59:58):
It's not the rest. I don't even think it's a question.

Speaker 4 (02:00:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:00:03):
Well yeah, like we said though, like Lane's not playing,
the Kobe won't play. But you don't have ten offensive
linemen on your roster, so you can't sit them all. No,
but if it, you know, but yeah, if you want
to sit cam in Landon and you played toasting and whoever.
You know what I mean, Then that's fine.

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
If it's win and you got the two, it's a
different conversation. Like if you controlled your own destiny, I'm
right with you. But you don't, so you can go
play this game, go win, and the Bears can go
win at home and it was a new point and
we just play, guys.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
For no reason. That's the issue I have with it. No,
I'm not crazy because you're not guaranteed it. Like you
act like you win, you're guaranteed it.

Speaker 4 (02:00:46):
That's why I'm not crazy. Like if if they played
at one o'clock and you knew, right, you knew that.

Speaker 6 (02:00:53):
That's why the NFL put them both at four point
thirty on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (02:00:56):
Yeah, like this, dude, give us the eight twenty five
game and have the Bears lose and then that game
matters for for rating.

Speaker 6 (02:01:08):
Come on, guys, we're on CBS, they're on Fox.

Speaker 7 (02:01:12):
Yeah, Saturdays.

Speaker 9 (02:01:18):
I mean, that was the point where we did control
our own destiny, you know. But Jalen had to lose
them games man.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 6 (02:01:30):
Yeah, yeah, jail and lost them all.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
I mean, if you guys are going, you know, give
them the wins.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
You gotta give them the game against that. I stand
by that one as the a game because I had
to start that conbo.

Speaker 6 (02:01:45):
Yeah, uh ship, I hop off.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
Yeah, I'm we're gonna fil Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:01:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
It was a great one where we're able to all
do this together.

Speaker 3 (02:01:59):
For Yeah, you need to have me on much more
times than than than not.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
Listen to where we're at.

Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
Put me on. Put me on. You know, I'm a
natural here man.

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
And me and Johnny, I stir up, I stir up.

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
I stirred a pot, I stirred a controversy. You know
how it goes with me.

Speaker 4 (02:02:18):
And Johnny gonna start something down our city boardwalk again,
get the back.

Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
Yeah, I'll be fun this this spring and summer. Yeah.
Before that, I actually can do it with them.

Speaker 3 (02:02:29):
I was just up. I was just up in Atlantic
City in June. Man, that place turned into a shithole.
What the fuck happened a c What happened to that place? Man?
I used to go there when I was a kid.

Speaker 4 (02:02:40):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:02:41):
We had a house inventor from my great grandparents. By
the day.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
Yeah, I love that too.

Speaker 9 (02:02:46):
I go, I go now and it's like wow, I
haven't been there in thirty years, and what the fuck
happened to this place?

Speaker 3 (02:02:50):
Boardwalk is trash.

Speaker 7 (02:02:52):
I'm nursing city.

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
We we did, we let we left.

Speaker 9 (02:02:56):
We I was staying at the showboat and we were like,
fuck this ship. Man, we're gonna We're on to the show,
going to show. We're going to Ocean City. We went
there and then we went the next day, we went
to wild Wood. Ocean City is beautiful, my god.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
Yeahs down there.

Speaker 9 (02:03:11):
The only the only ship that was fed up in
Ocean Cities is dry. You getting There's no alcohol, no nothing.

Speaker 7 (02:03:19):
It's not horrible.

Speaker 3 (02:03:21):
I mean, come on a little drinking. You drink at
the beach.

Speaker 1 (02:03:23):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:03:26):
It's always nice like those Florida beaches.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
Oh man, so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (02:03:32):
I live on the coach.

Speaker 9 (02:03:33):
I'm I'm over here in Melbourne now. I used to
live in Orlando. I live in Melbourne now I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
It's it's a.

Speaker 9 (02:03:38):
Trash area, but whatever, you know what I mean. It's
nothing like South Florida. South Florida is beautiful. West Palm
Beach and shit, yeah, big Gi Eagles community down there too.
Over there in West Palm Tampa Bay, big a lot,
a lot of Eagles fans.

Speaker 6 (02:03:55):
Yeah, they got it.

Speaker 12 (02:03:56):
They got a big community.

Speaker 3 (02:03:57):
They call themselves Tampadelphia. So it's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
All right, boys, great show everybody out there.

Speaker 3 (02:04:06):
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, I told you so much. Heastake shop.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
Man, I saw that. I saw the uh congratulations, Yeah,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 9 (02:04:16):
So I'm gonna open up another one, man, you know
what I'm gonna call it what? It's gonna be a
pizza shop though, all right, so you know how the
terminology dough into every pizzas well. I don't know about
up north, but down here it's a big thing. So
it's gonna be called Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (02:04:32):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 6 (02:04:33):
That is doable.

Speaker 4 (02:04:38):
You gotta have a little you gotta have a little Philip. Yeah,
you gotta have a little corny in it though, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:04:44):
Little corny and it have it popp you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:04:46):
Yeah, when you're talking about food, you know what I mean,
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:04:50):
Let the people get a little laught.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's important because then it draws them in
like the do must be good?

Speaker 6 (02:04:56):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, just that Northeast Pizza Is that
Northeast Pizza?

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (02:05:03):
Yeah, a different type of pie different, not as much anymore,
not as much anymore, do it right, because.

Speaker 1 (02:05:10):
It's not a big water difference the way they can
ship it. Now.

Speaker 3 (02:05:15):
They got they got, they got, they got, They got.

Speaker 9 (02:05:17):
Fucking readers down here now, yeah, they got the whole game.
Camaroso is such trash, bro. They saw that ship in
Gordon Food Service, Gordon Foods, Food Supply, Food Us.

Speaker 3 (02:05:28):
Yeah, it's trash completely dress. I was I was getting
lios sent down here.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
Yeah, but you know what I mean, they got them
all down there now, like yeah, you get them all
shipped right, So it's like, yeah, I have to get
it ship changed. You used to not be.

Speaker 3 (02:05:43):
Oh dude, I wish I could get shipped. I wish
I could get a good roll down here, like fresh
fresh base.

Speaker 6 (02:05:48):
That's the worst part about being down there.

Speaker 4 (02:05:50):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (02:05:52):
Although Public's got a good role, man, Public pub are legit.
Public Public has got a good fucking role. I don't
know how they do it, but they got a good rule.

Speaker 4 (02:06:01):
Their expensive gotta find somebody. I gotta talk to somebody,
you know what I mean, your rolls listen, we'll do
this again, you know.

Speaker 9 (02:06:10):
What I mean?

Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
Yeah, for sure, invite me up. Man, love to love
to be on. Nice meeting fellas tookey, yeah go birds
and uh ship man. We'll do this next week or something.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
Yeah, we'll do it again.

Speaker 3 (02:06:25):
Invite me, man, get me on.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
We're here, all right, bro here everybody. That's a good night.

Speaker 7 (02:06:31):
All right, guys, have a good night.

Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
So you guys h

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