A2DRadio-Eagles talk Eagles At A Crossroads_ Will They Collapse _Again_ or Rebound

Is the season over? The Philadelphia Eagles are truly at a crossroads after the recent skid. We ask the tough question: Will the Birds collapse (Again) like in 2023, or can Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni spark a massive Rebound?
In this week’s episode of Eagles Talk, we break down the critical issues plaguing the defense and offense. We examine alarming trends and debate whether the team has the coaching staff (Nick Sirianni, Kevin Patullo) to make the necessary in-season adjustments.
Jalen Hurts' performance is under the microscope. Has the MVP-level play disappeared, or is the lack of chemistry and the play-calling limiting his ceiling?
You don't want to miss our take on what needs to happen immediately for the Eagles to stop the bleeding and recapture the magic that led them to the Super Bowl contention just last year.
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hell you.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Fell out Diagles, Let me tell the hell down fell
help beyond.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
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(00:41):
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
I have probably lost two weeks in a row. Just
throw that out there.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Can you can you prove that?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Can you prove?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
No? You can't. Oh my god, are you like a
chain superstitious guy?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You would be just saying chuck, he's gone over for
two weeks? We lose two games. I'm just sy.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I tell people all the time, it doesn't matter like
where you got your sandwich from. It doesn't matter what
beer you're drinking for the game, what seat you're sitting in,
what you do in your everyday life has absolutely no
bearing on what happens in professional sports.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Not disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
So we got b Y who was superstitious. We got
Brings who's not and for me, I don't know. I
think I can't say I'm with him or not. So uh, yeah,
I'm back, and let's just say I'm not happy and
we will get to it. We'll discuss a lot of
that we have to unfold here. I'm sure a lot

(01:44):
of us has a ton to get off our chests.
But unfortunately tonight there is no less bow when he's
traveling back home from North Carolina. So yeah, he will
hopefully be back with us next week. Next week, just
a reminder, because the Eagles play on Monday Night Football,
we will be doing a post game show, so that

(02:05):
will be right after the game ends. Hopefully he doesn't
go to overtime so because it will be on even
later than usual. But yeah, that will be on. We
will be on after the game doing a postgame recap
of the Eagles Chargers game for next week. So that's
pro programming at the top of the show. But let's

(02:26):
get into it. We're we're gonna talk, guys. Unfortunately about
this Eagles. There's a lot that a lot of that
has been said over the past two games. Plans can
be repeated in terms of we talked about ad nauseum.
It's been the issue all all season of you know

(02:48):
this is, these are the problems with offense, These are
the problems with the offense. Blah blah, blah blah. I'm sure,
I'm sure we all agree like everyone is to blame,
Like there's there's no one single person to blame. Everyone
has fault. So that's out of the way. Let's let's
instead of you know, being a dead horse, let's look forward. Okay,

(03:08):
let's let's move forward and try to see where our
I guess confidence level is or panic meter, however you
want to put it where it's at with his team.
So our pole question is the Eagles will win at
least three of the next five games. Agree or disagree,

(03:30):
I'm gonna go with Brinks. Let's let's let's lead off
with you, Brinks. What say you? How how confident are
you for them to finish.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Your negative negative a billion? This is I see ten
and seven, and I say, I don't think ten wins
is gonna get you a wild card spot in the NFC.
I just don't really stacked conference this year. Now they're
gonna get a break. They're gonna get some breaks here
because justin Herbert broke his hand and he had surgery.

(03:58):
They claim he's gonna play. I don't sure I'm buying that.
You got the Raiders coming in, you got the Commanders
twice a company with Buffalo. But I can't worry about
outside noise about what those teams are doing, Like, I
see nothing to give me any hope that this team
has what it takes to write the ship of the

(04:19):
trash football I've seen since the bye week trash Like
those Packers and Lions wins, those were I feel those
were at this point, those wins were more detrimental than
a loss would have been, because maybe a loss right
out the buye to the Packers on Monday night football

(04:39):
would have triggered some change faster. Probably not, but maybe so.
Now we've just just like twenty twenty three, we're looking
at trash product and we're justifying it by a win
loss record that looks good. Like we've played this game,
it's the exact same thing, except this time it's an

(05:01):
offensive collapse, not a defensive colaps. But don't look. Now,
the defense is on the field for two thirds of
the game, and they're wearing down and getting injured, and
that's gonna fall apart. They got their asses kicked in
both sides of the trenches against the Chicago Pan Chicago

(05:21):
Bears badly two hundred and eighty one yards rushing, they
let up. That's not an elite defense, that's a tired
gas defense. So I just I don't see it. I
don't see it. I think I think it's gonna be
ten and seven, and I think they're gonna miss. I
don't think ten wins is gonna get your wildcard spot.

(05:42):
Big game, big, big, big game that all Eagles fans
should watch on Thursday Night football. This week, the Dallas
Cowboys are heading to Detroit. Yeah, I think the loser
is going to be I think it's a elimination game
when it comes to wildcard contention, because I'm not sure
how the tiebreakers are gonna work between the Eagles and

(06:04):
the Cowboys for the division. That tie looks pretty cool
for the Cowboys in Week whatever two or three against
the Packers, and the Eagles do have a tie break
over the Lions because they beat them head to head.
So perhaps if the Lions can beat the Cowboys, there's
hope for a wild card. But you just have so much,

(06:24):
like I posted in our in our chat, after the
game on Friday, Like, it's baffling to me how a
good football team, a talented football team like this can
hit a new rock bottom in what weeks ten, nine, ten,
and eleven or ten, eleven and twelve new rock bottoms

(06:45):
each week. It's unbelievable. I have some ideas. I have
some stuff I'm gonna say throughout the show that everyone's
gonna probably disagree with. But whatever. Like it's depth, it's
threat level midnight right now, it's time to start jamming
that panic meter. Mm. God forbid. They go out there

(07:05):
to l a against Trey Lance, he's their backup and lose,
that's it's on. It's it's the collapses on. I think
it's already on, but if they don't win this game
against the backup quarterback, then it's definitely on.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
What I do see like, it looks like he is
Herbert is trending to play, so I'm anticipating he's going
to play. Played hold on, he played with that that
hand broken the rest of the game, so he had surgery.
And again it's his non throwing hand. He will have

(07:44):
some type of like cast or glow wanted to to
keep it, you know, on his hand, you know, to
keep it whatever I would anticipate he plays. So That's
what I'm going gonna go into it with and I'm
not gonna expect other wise until the reports say he's
out officially and train lances in. So I'm That's how

(08:05):
I'm gonna treat it. But uh people, I go ahead,
where are you? Because so Brings disagree. See thinks they
get two wins at the most out of their next
seven games or I'm sorry, five games, two out of
the next five games and bring them to ten wins,
which if you look at the if you look at
the Cowboys schedule, like like Brings said, which is so

(08:26):
the Eagles, we have the Chargers next Monday night, then
we have the Raiders, Commanders, Bills, Commanders to end it.
The Cowboys have Lions Vikings, which is going to be
a win. Chargers we'll see, and then Commanders and then Giants.
So they there, they've got some They got a favor

(08:47):
favorable end of the year schedule as well. So ten
wins might not even get you the division if the
Cowboys take care of vision of business. So uh P,
why what is you do you think the Eagles will
win three of their next five games.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
If they keep playing like this and this is what
your team is looking like moving forward, I don't think so.
Like one of the major factors in the next three
out of the five is you're playing the Commanders twice,
who most likely don't have Jaden Daniels, and you're playing
the Raiders, who are arguably one of the worst team
to see in the NFL. Like the Bills and Chargers

(09:24):
will see what happens with them, but like there's problems,
Like there is immense problems with this team. The offensive
line can't block. The running back that you gave an
extension to isn't looking great this year, which is a
big problem with the offensive line with him as well.
The scheme is atrocious. The play caller can't scheme anything open.

(09:47):
Jama had a bad game last game, which I it
was is uncharacteristic of him when you need him the most.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
The defense, the defense, which has been the strength of
this team the whole season, is looking like it's finally gassed.
And for whatever reason, the defensive coordinator is throwing out
Brandon Graham over guys who have been productive like josh Ucha.
That makes no sense, and he keeps pushing the buttons
for a Dori Jackson when the Jaguary bee is here,

(10:18):
give him some some playing time, something, for the love
of all this only how many times do we have
to watch a Dori Jackson get roasted like a Thanksgiving
turkey by Ceedee Lamb and George Piketts.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well they're they're two elite wide receivers. I mean, I
think I think you're Jackson Agendas is kind of.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Hes watch this team right now and Dorry Jackson is
not even the top twenty five of issues with this team.
You know, I don't great like no, but I mean,
come on, okay, leading off, I let you guys finish.
You only let me finish.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
It brought me halfway through continue Like there's all these
issues on this football team right now, Like you should
beat the Commanders, you should beat you should beat the Raiders.
Those are bad football teams. But it's looking like we're
a poorly coach football team. On offense, Sirianni is allowing

(11:26):
these guys to basically do whatever they want, which is
not a good look. They're undisciplined on offense, and they're
also at times on discipline on defense. They are especially
are disciplined on special teams. I don't know what Michael
Clay is telling these guys, but they're just doing whatever

(11:47):
they want, especially if you're Xavier Gibson. Like I just
I don't know what to expect with this team, which
is something I'm shocked to say because I figured with
a Syrian only led team, you know, maybe it's not
gonna look the prettiest at times, but they're gonna be

(12:07):
a tough football team. They're gonna be a team that
outworks people. They're going to be a team that toss
out wins and a lot of times, it's starting to
look like the twenty twenty three team in different facets
in terms of the in terms of the offense instead
of the defense in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
But I guess I.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Expect it more from the coach, and I expect it
more from the team as a whole.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
And I just think it's.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Funny that we threw out the whole. Oh AJ's just
being selfish. AJ's being a diva. He just continues to
tell everyone what we all knew was coming is that
the defense could only plug that hole for so long
before the damn burst and ladies and gentlemen, the damn
is bursting in front of us right now. Like if

(12:55):
if they don't figure this out, this is over. You're not,
like Brink said, you're not making the playoffs. You're you're
not You're not sniff of the wild card game if
they continue to play like this, like and what's gonna
happen is Sirianna gonna be let go? Are we gonna
continue this offensive coordinator roulette wheel every year?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Like I I don't.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't think they they win their next three out
of five games if they play like this.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Okay, I yeah, I disagree to the polls. Well, I
think they win two and like I said, two wins
out of the next five to finish the season brings
up to ten and seven and that's going to be
very difficult. That will win the NFC East if the
if the Cowboys get upset somewhere, so you you're relying
on the Cowboys to kind of falter and in some

(13:45):
of these games. So it's it's gonna be very very close.
I I hope I'm wrong. I think it is possible
that they win. They pull off three, four would be
like wow, all right, So but I think it is
possible they could win three, but I'm if I'm going
to bet, I think it's two, and that brings to
ten and seven. Like I said, to continue my point

(14:08):
about your your thing with Dory Jackson, I think a Dory.
If you expect a Dory to be anything that he
already was, then of course you're going to say that
you know he's he's been an issue, blah blah blah.
You need Jackryan out there. I have been since we
traded it for him. I have been pushing for jacoryan Bennett.

(14:31):
If I'm saying I am I'm still okay with the
Dory being out there, then that's saying a lot. I
don't think it's a big issue. I don't like he's
to say to point out that he's getting cooked by
Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens, that's not saying much. They're
that's not saying much at all. Like they will cook

(14:52):
almost any any cornerback. They Ceedee Lamb and uh, George Pickens, Cooke,
Cooper de gene on on st Reps some seven passes.
So I don't that putting that on, Putting that on
on a Dori Jackson isn't really fair he's like I said,
he's going to give up catches because he's not. He's

(15:15):
just like an adequate, solid corner. But I don't think
there's any anything that's been egregious that he's put on films.
I don't think anything agrees. He's exactly what you should
expect Dori Jackson to be. So just.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Like we don't have we don't have a problem with
the coaching on the defensive side of the ball. They
had a bad game on Friday, but I don't think
this is going to become a underlying problem with the defense,
and Vic Fangio knows what he's doing. If Bennett was

(15:51):
performing better in practice than at Dori Jackson, then Jacorey
and Bennett would be out there, same with khey Ringo
and then the new guy Carter or whatever. Yeah, from
the Jets, like those guys will be playing MC doesn't around.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, I don't think. Again, I don't they had a
bad performance. They that performance does remind me about the
like the loss of the Giants, because they got bullied
and out schemed, and that's kind of we can't really
be too surprised in term of scheme because man like

(16:27):
Ben Johnson is so good. I touched. I touched on it,
like last week on Film Don't Lie thatative. Their their
run game is very very good. And I did a
film breakdown preview of like common young guy and and
I had alluded to before before that game on Friday,
that this running attack is something to to that that's

(16:49):
the foundation of the offense is the running game, and
we saw firsthand. I know Eagles fans, probably both Eagles fans,
don't pay attention to the Bears and all their games,
but I've watched all their games because again I'm a
young guy guy. He's he's my guy, and know I
like Calo Williams all that, so I've been paying attention
to them. Their run game is legit, like their offensive

(17:10):
scheme is legit, which is the total opposite of what
we have in Kevin Bacdulo. So being able to see that,
like Vic Fangel's great. But you got to tip the
cap to Ben Johnson. He had he had his offense
rolling like he what he was able to do. And
if you want, if you guys want to see some
film breakdowns of what I'm talking about, tuned into Film

(17:31):
Don't Lie on Wednesday morning, Pet and I will break
down some film of the Bears running game and what
they were able to do. But yeah, it's super impressive.
So the defense had another stinker. I still have confidence
in the defense, like overall, you know, like they are
still overall, like they've bailed out this offense time and

(17:51):
time again throughout most of the season, and they deserve
like the benefit of the doubt. So I think that's
where in one of her chats, I think Pete asked like, Hey,
is this going to be worse than the twenty twenty
three collapse? I don't think so. And the reason I
said is because I know you guys say, oh, like

(18:13):
twenty twenty three was the defensive collaps It was both
like the defense was bad, but the offense was just
as bad. The defense couldn't do anything, so it was
a mess on both sides of the ball. That's why
it looked horrendous. I don't think it's going to be
that bad because I still have faith in the defense.
That that's pretty much the difference here. But it's still

(18:36):
going to be like overall, this team, if we are
able to get into the playoffs, still I don't see
us like maybe we'll win one game maybe, but I
don't see us getting out of the divisional round. I
think that's like the furthest this team, this iteration of
the team, even if we improve on offense a little bit,

(18:58):
I think there are too many issues for this team
to overcome in order for us to repeat. So and
that's the expectation, right like we what we are, we
want to repeat, that's the goal. So that's the goal
and the expectation. I don't think that the Eagles can
meet that. So that's that's where I'm met. I don't

(19:19):
think it's gonna be as bad as twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
But one thing, one thing that's the same, Chucks, is
the body language throughout the game. Yeah, no, I hear you,
which is pissed war Yeah, that's part. The main reason
for that is you have a CEO vibes oriented head coach,
and the CEO and the tasks that are supposed to
be handled by the CEO head coach aren't being handled. Therefore,

(19:44):
his vibes are falling on deaf ears, which is why
the Eagles either win the Super Bowl or go to
the Super Bowl, or have one of the most laughable
collapses in NFL history. Under this guy, which I'm sure
we're gonna get the Syrian later in the show. Like that.
That inconsistency doesn't work for me. So I know, like

(20:07):
not getting like at the end of the season, like
we're not I'm not getting like crazy overboard like that. No,
I don't. He says, he's no. What he says, he's
evaluating everything. But you know, we're in week thirteen, so
what you're evaluating isn't correct, So maybe you have to
look in the mirror and change how you're evaluating things.

(20:30):
He says he's not. He says he's not. He's we're
not changing play callers, but we're evaluating everything. So I've
already decided we're not changing the play caller, So that's
we're evaluating everything. That means we're not evaluating everything, Nick.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
So that's bs Like I don't believe him at all,
because remember he said the exact same thing in twenty
twenty three, and then they we we we play Sean
decide in UH in an outhouse and UH promote it unofficially,
mister pencil.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
So and that's why they're not gonna that. That's why
he's not gonna make a change now because he tried
to make changes in twenty twenty three and it got
worse because he didn't make the right changes.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think people want Kevin Batullo fired,
Like I don't. I don't know. I don't think if
you make a change, it does like what I what
I want, the what I want play calling duties relieved

(21:36):
from Kevin Petullo. Yes, but I don't think that's the
only way, Like, there are other ways you can fix this.
The thing is there are like what confidence can we
put in that they will do those things? Because if
you're if you're gonna keep Kevin Batullo as as the

(21:57):
big Hall play caller. Right, let's let's break this down.
So but Tula, what does he do? What does he
do well? Right now? The only thing you can have
his head? You can hang his head. What's the phrase,
hang his head head?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Hang off?

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah? Sorry? Is the red zone? I think we can
all agree his play calling in the red zone for
some reason, flip's a switch and he's really good in
the red zone. Awesome, good, don't touch that, Like, keep
doing what you're doing. But there are so many things
that we've discussed that we've talked about over the weeks.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I just.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
If they were gonna make a change schematically and improve
certain things, Like why haven't they they already done it?
Like I am a Joe Schmo, I don't know. I
I learned football. I tried to study it as much
as I can. I still would even call myself just
an average average fan, who you know, in terms of

(22:56):
football knowledge. If I can see the things that are
wrong with this offen schematically, it boggles my mind that
these offensive coaches can't.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Anyone can see it. That's that's the that's the red
flag that's sticking out.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I won't say anyone we've we have some dunces here.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
But those are those are idiots who think that they
know what they're talking about, and they're trying to tell
m v P and quarterbacks what they know based off
one point.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Well, that's people. That goes my point. It's not just anyone,
not anyone can see it. But what my point is
that it boggles my mind how they haven't been able
to fix it yet. Like now I touched on this before.
Do I think they can fix some things and will? Sure?
Like I think there are some things and I wouldn't

(23:48):
be surprised if they started incorporating more under center again
under center play action, blah blah blah, like like stuff
like that to the start, right, go back to this
thing and things like that. Yeah, I would I be
surprised if we saw a little bit. Yes, No, I
would not be surprised. I just think there's too much

(24:09):
to fix. That's the issue. There are too many things
to fix. So I just I don't know if it's
it's it's able to overcome. Now. I hope I'm wrong,
I really really really hope I'm wrong. So let's get
this some of the check because it's definitely going off
and I definitely want to get touch on some of

(24:31):
these stuff. So Aprado thirty one, I'm sorry if I
mispronounced that KP will not be calling plays by Monday
or after we touched on it. Already, they already announced
that he will call plays, so that's not changing unless
if Lurid come comes in and and forces it within

(24:52):
the next three days. I expect Heavin Patullo to be
your play colors, so.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Though I mean it is at times he hasn't been though.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
If he here's the thing, he's done it before. Though,
if he feels that things are going off the rails,
he will get involved. He doesn't like to, but if
he feels it's that bad. He has had a habit
of doing that when he feels dire.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, but how how many examples of it being in season?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Though?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Like twenty twenty three, I don't remember. Maybe I'm wrong.
Twenty twenty three, that change. I don't think that was LORI,
but I could be wrong. So even if even if
I give you that right, let's say Laurie did butt
in in twenty twenty three and forced that that play
call change, play call change right on defense. That's one example.

(25:51):
What other examples throughout New Laurie's tenure has he had
where he butted in in the middle of the season.
All seasons is a different thing because that's when yeah,
like that's when you your owners can step in and
evaluate everything. But in season I kind of agree with Brianks,
like he doesn't that's not really his m Well, he's
not Jerry Jones so or nor is he? Uh, what's

(26:13):
the what's the owner in New York the Jets?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Woody?

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, so like he's not them in season, he doesn't,
he doesn't like get involved with that. He also says,
when we play the Commanders, JD will be playing. Yeah,
I disagree with that. I think there's a chance. I
think there's a chance he plays, at least like one
of them. So I think I'm not guaranteeing anything, but

(26:39):
I think there is a chance. Because they they didn't
put him on I R, so they expect him back
within four games or they're considering him around that time frame,
so I would not be surprised if he if he plays.
Uh Ash Jam says, what are we talking about special teams?
I have zero confidence moving forward until the offense shows

(27:02):
some sign of luck. And then John Edehront says, dank, guys,
we can't be Washington two times. Well, the thing is,
we could have said that about the Giants, right, we
can't beat the Giants twice like we should have been
the Giants, but we lost one of them. So I
am not a division opponent in Washington.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Did the Cowboys too?

Speaker 3 (27:23):
I am? I am not going to overlook them and say, hey,
like this is Chris Coffin, thank you for the super chat.
Anyone remembered data Bible RC from nineteen ninety eight, This
offense is the effing bad I vaguely remember. I don't.
I wasn't watching football back then as as closely as
I am now, so I don't remember that specifically.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
But yeah, my first game ever was in that season,
were you Yeah? Maybe it was nineteen ninety s Affriget,
it was nineteen ninety seven or nineteen ninety eight. They
played the Patriots, okay, and they blocked the punt and won.
And the Patriots I think they went the Super Bowl
that year with Drew Bledsoe and everyone got mad because
they weren't going to get the first pick. And I
didn't understand as a little kid, like why is everyone mad?

(28:09):
We just won for the first time in months?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Like, yeah, sometimes it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, some more, some more comments here before we move on.
Let's get to great. Much as I really thought the
Eagles would call Justin Simmons or bring up Marcus EPs ir,
when do you when is he off it?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
That's what I was going to bring up, like when
is he off I R? Because when he comes off
I R. That could That's probably an option, So I
wouldn't rule that out at this point. I don't think
you can realistically expect Justin Simmons. That was always a
pipe dream. I don't think it was that realistic to
expect Justin Simmons to be an Eagle, But we'll see.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
John Adcock also says Carter running into Q is one
of the craziest things I've seen in all the time. Yeah,
I mean that's what happens when you bring in like
a newbie.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Mid season miscuso happened, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
And then I don't want to I don't want to
crap on Michael Carter again. He's he's still learning the
defense probably, but this is also why, like I wanted
to keep the genie in the slot. Just Ben Johnson,
Eagle fan in two forty, says Ben Johnson showed us
what a greatness he can do. It was incredible juxtapose
against our rudimentary schemes. Yeah, you guys want to see

(29:28):
what good, great offensive minds look like. Look at that game.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Back and there are people who said he wasn't gonna
make a difference in Chicago, like they he really they
really thought that, like Ben Johnson wasn't gonna be anything special.
Pair with Cable Williams, they're showing everyone wrong. Like Caleb
Williams looks like a stud right now and certainly not
a bust yep yep.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Exactly amazing, but he's certainly better bust. I gave him
credit for.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
He's he's basically.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I told him.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I told him I wanted him the show, and he's
showing me. They're playing good football.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
He's playing very very well. The jump from year one
to year two with good supporting cast and a really
good head coach has made a huge difference. He's not perfect,
but I think I've said this on them, don't lie.
He The one thing he's turned around the most is
his sack avoidance. That year he got sacked a ton,

(30:29):
But now he's really learned how to adjust to the
game and know when to create and and what lovers
the poll his he leads the lead in sack avoidance
like it's insane. He's it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
What happens when you go out and you get a
head coach who doesn't look like he eats chalk for
a living matters.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Just remember you said that when it comes to Justin Herbert,
just say, we'll see what happens from For some reason,
you like to ignore it.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
So when it comes to start I'm just saying Benny's
team stucks.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
The season is over. Storry to tell you. Offense is
too predicted for playoffs, too many holes on the team,
they have no uh effort, and it's always blaming everyone
but themselves. Blah blah blah. So yeah, another really really
really upset fan, which I totally understand. John asks with
how this old line and run game is playing, Do

(31:36):
you guys think a change will make a difference in
this offense? It depends on the change, Like, are you
alluding to a change in play caller? Maybe? Maybe not,
Like I don't know, Like, it really depends what you're
talking about, So go ahead, right, Sorry.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I think Scott, like if you made the change, I
think you would see an increase of production. I'm not
saying he's gonna fix everything, but I think he could
give you enough creativity and different viewpoints to move things
in a better direction. Maybe not the one hundred percent
correct direction, but a better direction. Also something that might

(32:18):
be more interesting. Instead of throwing Grant Kyle Katara out there,
the block, put lat two out there like he showed that,
like he hand block when it's called upon, Like throwing
Grant Kyle Katara out there every week thirteen plus snaps
a game, so as a as a blocker or the
majority of his plays is malfeasans. I don't understand what

(32:41):
the coaching staff sees and they think themselves. You know
who's a great blocker, Grant cal Kntara.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Dude, I've been asking the same thing for weeks. So
you're preaching to the choir not.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
To mention the fact that, like I just the offense
is just annoying at times because like what, obviously we
have all these issues and whatnot, but I'm like, I
just hate the fact that they just make it so
much more difficult than they needs to be. It's just
it's I think that's the most frustrating part. It's not
the fact that they're bad to me that drives me crazy.

(33:15):
It's the fact that they don't need to be and
there's just so many times where it's just like just
take the easy route, just you know, go forward, don't
try and spin around the guy like I. It's just
it's I think that's the most infuriating at times.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Chris Confidence does after Chicago. I thought his practice wind open.
I looked it up. Yeah, you're right, Chris his practice
window does open starting this week. Well they they didn't
announce his practice window to start. It's eligible, he's eligible
to return to practice this week, but it hasn't. The

(33:53):
practice window has to be opened first by the team.
Uh Matt birds as next year. To talk a lot
today about keep and changing. Does that mean they just
mean more spread offense and empty formations? I don't listen
to press conferences a ton, especially with this staff. I don't.
I don't usually get too much out of it. And

(34:15):
if you listen to Kevin Patullo his press conferences they're there,
you'll lose brain cells. So I don't listen.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
To a press I never get angrier than when he
talks what I said. I never get more mad than
when I listened to him. Yeah, because obviously, like what
he's putting on film is atrocious, but what he says
is even worse somehow.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah, yeah, he's he's the worst. His press conferences are
worse than it's making. But it's like, you know, mad,
Does that? Does that just mean more spread offense and
empty formations? Like that's one of them. Like if you
go more empty and spread that that helps because they're
so good at doing empty, so absolutely that that would help.

(35:01):
It's but again it alludes to my point that would
that be enough. That's not enough, Like you've got to
do more than that. But it is a step. It
is one thing they can do to get better. So yeah,
whether whether whether that is one of the solutions, we
shall see. We shall see, all right. So that is

(35:25):
we talked a lot about the state of the defense
or state of the offense. None of us really have
much confidence in that, right. Uh. We kind of touched
on the defense, you know, Brinks and I said, like
we overall we still have some faith in them, and
we don't think it's it's a lingering issue. Is there anything?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
So?

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Like, I think the run defense, even though it's been subpar,
that's been probably the one weakness of the of that
unit for all the season, even though I think in
a lot of games they're fine that I don't know
that the run defense doesn't overly concern me. I think

(36:08):
it'll get fixed. I think it'll be Okay, is there
do you are you guys panicking about the run the
run defense? First of all, I'll ask that.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
First, not really?

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Okay, it is what it is like some weeks it's
really bad and some weeks it's really good. Like it
just depends on the opponent. It depends on whether or
not Fan Jao is plugging in the right guys at times.
Like I think my two biggest issues right now on defense,
Like just I'm throwing the Dory Jackson out the window
because it's like whatever. But my thing is, I, under

(36:44):
no circumstances should Johan Campbell play zero STAPs. I I
don't care how good Nakobe Dean's playing, it's just that
should not happen. And secondly, I will while Brandon grown,
he's a great guy, he's a great leader in all this,
There's there's no way he should be playing over Josh,
I don't care. Like has been a contributor all season long,

(37:09):
and I like Graham a lot, but like, you can't
tell me he's giving you better snaps in the limited
snaps he's getting over. I just I don't agree with that.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I don't really know. I mean, I mean, I'm kind
of like, if Campbell wants to play in the games,
I mean, zero snaps is bad, and he showed you
can like zero snaps. I'm not sure what that's about,
but I mean, if he wants to play a role,
he's gonna have to beat na Kobe Dean out in practice,

(37:44):
where Zach bawing out in practice. Like that's just that's
just what it is. And he's not better than those guys.
He's not.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
We all know that. But like I'm not saying that
he deserves to play over them, but like you should
be finding at least a few snaps.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
But they tried put y and he got steam.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
This is what this is what I will say when
it comes to Jock Campbell overall as a rookie, concerning
he's a rookie. Is he better player over all than
Nakobe Dean right now? Probably not? Probably not because Nakobe
Dean he's he's a veteran. He knows what he's seeing
and when he turns of run defense and attacking like

(38:24):
he's blitzing to like he's he's really really good. Is
Nakobe Dean significantly better than Jahad to where Jahad should
get no snaps, especially in certain downs and situations. No,
I think that Jahad has shown, if anything, the one

(38:45):
area he is better at than Dean is coverage. You know,
like Jahad can he can run the pole. He can
he knows where his zones are, like he has he's better,
he has better movement movement skills, and we're all better athlete,
i'd say than the Dean even though needs no slouch.
So I think it is a thing where you have

(39:09):
to find Jahad snaps on passing downs, on like obvious
passing down situations, get him in there, because I do
think over over his career, Diana has shown like he'll
have thumb wraps, But coverage is not his It's not.
I mean it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I mean they rush for two to eighty one, you're
gonna put a coverage linebacker in the game.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
No, no, no, that's why, Like I get I get that.
I totally understand that this is more so like this
is more so overall. This is not specifically towards the Bears,
like I think, like against the Bears game zero against
zero snaps, that's a little too much. But I understand
the mindset of wanting Dean out there because he's the
better run defender. So I get that. It's more so

(39:55):
moving forward, like you have to find ways to get
Jahad in on the field when it's obvious he can
contribute to the to the edge rusher thing. I'm not
even saying for him an edge rusher because he's he
shouldn't be an edge rusher. I've been saying that since
we drafted him. I've been telling Pete Wyant. He didn't
believe me, and he still repeated to admit he was

(40:19):
wrong about about Joy.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
But they did try it at times and it wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
It wasn't good. He kept getting like his his functional
strength is edge. He can't set the edge he gets
if he put him an edge rusher. He's automatically one
of the lightest edge rushers there are out there in
the league. And so like, even though and you have

(40:48):
a guy like that, the smallest guy at edge, he
better be like flying off the ball and pass rush.
The thing is, he's not that polished as an edge
rusher as a speed rusher, you know what I mean.
Like it's it's not like he's flying off the edge
like Reddick was a couple of years ago. You know,
as a speed rusher, he doesn't have that repertoire yet.

(41:13):
So it's not like he's giving you It's not like
he's offsetting his his limitations as a run defender. With
outstanding past rusher reps, he's not, So he shouldn't be
out there as an edge rusher outside of maybe a
handful of plays like maybe like two of two to
four plays maybe get him on the edge like in

(41:34):
certain situations. Sure, but that's not where he should be
primarily used. I still think in passing down to the
situations you need a guy out there like Jahad over
over Dean, And so that's that's that's my criticism. I
the one thing I do worry about. And it pays

(41:55):
me to say this because I like the guy a lot.
But I do worry about to Brown because you know,
as hopeful as I was, he has looked really really bad.
And so I'm I'm not afraid to admit, like I
was wrong about Sidney Brown. He's looked really really bad.
And it's like he was bailed out by inaccurate throws

(42:17):
against the Bears places where he he just missed the guys.
His guy got open on him really easily, but it
just wasn't a touch on because it.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Was a bad pass.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Awful last week. I've never heard less.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
He was really bad. Yeah, So that's that's where I think.
If there's one area of the defense that I'm concerned
about it's safety. It's Sidney Brown. Unless he can like
really really improve from here or that and and and
be at least adequate and coverage, then don Okay, but

(42:58):
I don't. I still think I can't believe I'm saying this,
but like you kind of got to hold market steps
can come in and be adequate, you know what I mean? Uh,
because he's had it can't.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Be worse than Sydney is play, which unfortunately sucks, just
because I think you and I like him more than most.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah, so I don't. I don't know. That's the one area.
I don't know about you guys, But I don't know
there's any other area of the defense where you're really
concerned about.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
No, No, it's it's probably safety.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yet right now, problems on defense first.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Exactly. But I had so many people, like I came
across a lot of people that were just really pissed
off by the defense and saying, oh, like, are we
gonna make excuses for Fangio? No, we're not making it.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
It was a bad game.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
He's allowed like with what he's been able to give up,
like what he's been dealing with all season, Like he's
allowed a bad game, hinues on. That's a that's a
different story bag Nol.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Who I'd say is probably would you got you guys?
Would you guys agree? Like the best of the portat
of the game? Right, he has bad games, like, yeah,
you can criticize him for that. For you can criticize
Vican this defense for that Bears game. That's fine. It
doesn't mean that like I should lose faith in him.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
He's still I see fixable on defense where I don't
see fixable on offense because it's been the same song
and dance every week for twelve weeks.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
You know what brings like it's it's like this defense
is a really good defense? Is it an elite defense? Yeah?
Like what we see what we're seeing from like the
Texans or the Seahawks. Right, No, I would I'm missing
a union and I feel bad there's another Bronco. Sorry,
So like Broncos, Seahawks, Texans? Are they like that good? No,

(44:57):
they're not that good. But there's really good I'd say
that there's like a second tier unit. The issue is,
but how bad the offense is? Like the Eagles are
relying so much on that defense to to bail them
out and at some point it was gonna break. You

(45:18):
know what I mean, the dam was going to break
at some point when you put that much pressure on
the defense to continue to make stops of their stops
and stop. Uh So, you know, I don't this defense,
no matter how you spin, it's still a really good unit.
You need the offense has to wake up and help
out this defense.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
They talk about the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
That was bad. Yeah it was really bad.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
He was he was really really horrendous.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah he was really bad.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
No one's gonna just.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Say it's twenty one to three, we're down Monday night
at halftime, and it looks bad. Do you let Tanner
go try and do something in the second half? I
think I was. I think I was close to tweeting it.
I was close to I was close to tweeting it.

(46:11):
I know a halftime in this game.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
I would not. I still would not. It's I think
Jalen has gone past the point where he deserves the
benefit of the doubt, especially.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
He's been good all season, Like there's been a he has.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
I did pee Why I think we've gone He's had
three or ever since the bye week, he hasn't looked great.
So I think we've gone past the point where we
can say all season he's looked really good. No, I
think like.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
We've had games where it's not perfect, like I think
he was he was bad, Like I'll say that he
was bad against the Bear, but we've also had it's
also not oh my god, let's go look at Tanner
McKee season.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Like, no out.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I need to figure out if this is a Jalen
problem or an offensive scheme. Probably problem missed a lot of.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Its not a quarterback, I think. I think Hurts deserves
part of the blame. Heres absolutely deserves part of the blame.
I agree with p why it's not to the point
where I would be benching him.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
But McNabb got benched for a half in his heyday,
he came back.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Mcdont never won a Super Bowl, MVP.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Like does not deserve the desert.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
The Kevin Cobb in the game against the Robins, that
was ineffective. But what happened after that? Pe Why what
happened after that? The Eagles for the rest of their games.
So you're just completely letting Jalen hooks. Jalen hurts off
the hook?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
When am I letting him off the hook? I think
he's been a great quarterback this year. There has been
moments where he has not played well. The Bears game
is a was a very bad game from him and.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
A bad look.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
But I'm sorry, I'm not benching him for Taylor McKee.
Excuse my fresh Who the hell is Taylor McKee? I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. He's great. He's great coming to Ali Stanford.
You know, he's looked good against the Giants. That's it,
Like he's okay. People, you're getting red.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I don't think. I don't think letting him go in
for a half, letting you try to do something in
a lost cause game, and letting Jalen watch for a
half would be the worst thing in the world. If
I guess that, what does that fucking relaxed p Why.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
What does it do? I'm asking you, We're.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
At def Con four or five right now, and my
whole purpose is bigger than this offense. Week thirteen. You
can count on one hand the amount of teams in
the NFL that I feel confident the Eagles can beat
this upcoming weekend.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I yeah, let's put it this way, Okay, hold on,
matt Burg makes a good point. I wouldn't bench Jalen
until that first Commanders game if Jalen can't get it
together after a long week or against the Raiders. So
like again, I don't think we're at the point where
you can bench Jalen. I also think the a scenario

(49:28):
where I see Hurts reasonably getting benched is if he
has one of the most horrific halves of of an
NFL quarterback, where it's like at the Great Receptions and
a half and like he looks lost, and if he's
like if he's shown that he's partly injured right like

(49:49):
if he can't move, like like he his leg is
like his leg is hurt and he can't run. So
those are the those are like extreme circumstances where I'm like, Okay,
you you gotta let Jalen sit. Other than that, it's
not to the point where I would bench him. I
get what you're saying, brings because you know they did
it with Big Nad before. That was twenty years ago.

(50:11):
I don't believe that's a that's a you can apply
the same it's the same thing twenty years ago to
this team now, especially since this quarterback has shown a
pension to play at a high level and turn around
in a half. So I just the resilt. Like, if
there's one thing that Jalen has its resiliency right, and

(50:33):
it's it's his poison being able to be able to
rebound off of bad, bad performances and and still be
the same.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
But that's why I wait till the commander's game tucks.
The season's gone.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, but if you here's the opposite, here's the other
end of that decision that you're of benching him, that
you're not taking the sideration. If you bench Jalen and
it goes back with McKee, your season is gone. Also,
like you cannot, you cannot go back to jail.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
You have told the entire team, and the coaches have
told this entire team that they no longer believe in
that quarterback, and it's done.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I don't think. I don't think Kevintula believes.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I don't give a ship with Kevin put to old things.
He can't he can't walk and talk at the same time.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Okay, yeah, that's I think he can. I think he's
If you think that, I think he I mean what's
in my brain right now is Dallas Goddard up the
seam and Jalen Hurts had Smith that would have that,
whether or.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Whither we went over this during the week.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Like, that's not on Hurts, that's that's that he's reading
the one side and doesn't matter what Goddard does.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Why didn't hit the dragon route over the middle to
DeVante Smith, which that's.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Fifteen break out. So so for for that play, all
I'm saying is that you can criticize pers because I
think ultimately that is on Hurts in my opinion, that's

(52:28):
that that playover on Hurts not seeing godd or throwing
the Goddard. That's not the part because it doesn't matter
what Goddard does. He's that's not the read, that's not
the that's not where you first go to. That's not
that's not the first part of the progression, right he's
it doesn't And and to anyone that's saying, oh he
was the hot route, the Eagles don't run hot routes,

(52:49):
so and he wasn't a hot route either anyways, because
a hot route, your head is turned immediately. Goddard's head
has not turned until he's eight yards on the field,
so he wasn't a hot route. So you can't go
to God anyways, the the he hurts me the right
read to target and look at Smitty first, that's the
right read. The issue is that's an option route. That's

(53:13):
an option route, and him and Smitty weren't on the
same page. The reason why I still put that on
Hurts for so Hurts thought Smitty was gonna sit down
on a hook route, right, but Smitty chose to break
it inside. The when you're taught on an option route,
and I looked this up from I got this from

(53:35):
one of my one of my coaching sources. He when
for receivers they're taught on an option route like that,
you prioritize breaking inside unless that's blocked off. So, considering
that the middle of the field was open, Smitty probably
made the right decision to break it inside, and Hurts
miscommunicated with him or misread it and thought he was

(53:57):
going to stay and sit in the hook. So that's
that's on Hurts. That's absolutely so that's a bad miss
by Hurts because that's a touchdown one hundred. My whole
point is just that don't bring up the goddard thing,
because the goard thing is irrelevant. I thought that was that.
I'm surprised in the halftime show, who was it? Ryan
Fitzpatrick brought that up because I figured he'd known better

(54:17):
being a former quarterback. That's not part of the read.
So I'm just saying I'm critical of Hurts too. I
was bad and that's a miss on him. But it's
not because he misguard it. It's not because he miss good.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Sick of watching Jalen Hurts. I mean, it's the same
thing that we talked about in the preseason, Like he
doesn't step up in the pocket, he always rolls out.
He doesn't he doesn't throw over the middle, like this
is that's hindering this team to.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
The over the middle part is really confusing to me
because churtsis Hurts has showing that when he does it,
he's good at it. Like he's pretty good at it.
He's not like elite. I'm not saying he's like Burrow
or Lamar when it come so throwing to the middle
of the field, but he's he's still good at it.
He's he's more than competent doing it for some reason,

(55:07):
and no one knows. They just don't call a lot
of places in the middle of the field.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
For some reason, they because he doesn't like it.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
He probably that's probably part of it. But then also
if it's if it's if it's something that he has
shown he can do, it's got to be a more
consistent thing, like he did it. He did it against
the Bears. Like against the Bears, that was a point
of emphasis to attack the middle of the field, and
his numbers go throw it to the middle of the field.

(55:36):
I think there were like he was like six of
eight for I forget how many yards, but there were
good numbers, so they they he threw to the middle
of the field a good amount against the Bears. It's
more so like consistently weekend and week out, they don't
do that. So that's where I'm saying it's partly probably
because of hurts, because they're part of it. Is probably

(55:57):
because he doesn't he doesn't feel overly confident to do
it a lot, but he's shown that he's okay, he's
fine with doing it a little bit. So the coaches
have to be able to pull that trigger and call plays,
even if it's just like three to five times a game,
three to five times during the game. Call plays that
target the middle of the field. Call those so that

(56:20):
you can still do you can still so you can
access that part. It's it's too inconsistent. So I'm not
absolving Hurts. I'm saying it's on both of them. They've
got to get on the same page. The coaches to
play callers and Hurts to be able to do that more.
And then's just one of the again, it's just one
of the many things schematically where it's just like there's

(56:41):
so many things to fix.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
There's so many things.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
There's also reports that Jalen Hurts doesn't like when there's
QB designed runs in the playbook, considering he.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Leads the NFL and QB attempts at runs, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
We're not designed runs.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
And you have to take out you have to take
out touch pushes too, And it's it's even though he
leads the league by that stat against, I don't think that.
I don't think I think that includes touch bushes, which
you have to take out. But you can't look at
that metric. You have to look at his metric over

(57:17):
the past years. In terms of past years, this is
a down year in terms of Hurts rushing and I
think we've seen it. What what makes it different this year?
P Why is that the running game is struggling. So
one of the ways to get the running game going
is to is by QB design runs. So it doesn't

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matter what they if. If he's running more than he
did last year, it doesn't matter because last year the
running game was working. Right now, the running game is
not working, so you need to you need him to
run more. And so if to that to that report again,
I don't know to what extent that report is viable
or but it not doing it if there is, if

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there is pushback by hurts against running the ball more,
that is a concern. And I made that point a
couple of days ago.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Maybe it would open up the run game. If if
you did QB power eight to ten times again.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
It would Yeah, it would help open I mean, he.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Had how many fifty yard touchdowns in the in the
playoffs last year off QB power.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I mean, there's one he had one against the Rams
and the snow for sure it wasn't snowing when he
did it. One in that game, and he definitely had
one against the Commanders in the championship. That's at least
that's two did.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
He have Oh yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, that was It
wasn't fifty yards, but it was. It was that they
were in like the reds of the twenty eighth shorter. Yeah,
I know what you mean. Yeah, And so.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I don't know what he's doing with his ball security
on the push push.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I mean that, like, I'm not evenna I can't kill
him for that because they should have that that that
should have been called forward progress.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Well though, that's a stone fumble and a great play
by the guy because Jalen holding the ball again Hurts.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
You can't, no matter what, if a guy fumbles, that's
that's still on him. It's also though they did last
week they changed up their alignment to where so you
guys remember before Saquon and Goddard used to be on
both sides of Hurts and push them right. I think

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last week they changed it up and now they're not.
They're not on either side. So what happened was because
Hurts was unprotected on that one side. That's how that's
how Bayer came in and pulled it free. So it
was like a little a little adjustment like that. Even
made a difference. Yeah, it's it's I.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Had way more issue with this than I do. Jahad Campbell.
Tank Bigsby carries.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
That's zero car he ten carries is too much, But zero, how.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
About five five to seven to carry? Because I think
he's shown to where when you give him room, like
he can make you suffer, Like he can make plays
like we've watched it. Like I'm not saying he needs
to cut a huge thing away from Saqua.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Obviously is not playing like he should be right now.
He's still still these touches.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
But like I think Bigsby, you even give.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Him five to seven touches a game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
You know, you're just pretty much you're pretty much stealing
the words out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
You're taking where I why do we make formations and
situations where we have both Tank, Bigsby and Barkley and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
We had we had that one go talk to your
genius offensive coordinat We did use the pony pony person
I forget if it was either the Cowboys game or
or the Bears game. We did have one snap where
they were with pony personnel where both of them were
out there. But I mean, don't you preaches to the choir.
I've been I love pony personnel, but Eagles have rarely

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ever used it ever since I've been calling for it,
like back to the Doug p days. So I don't know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
About with the head coach. With the head coach, he's
evaluating everything. We're doing this, we're looking at that. It's
the same song and dance. Each Monday we come on
this show and the list of concerns doubles.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
It's it's it's the same stuff I've been saying for weeks.
That's why I said, like it beat a dead horse,
like it's nothing has changed, like there's there was the
two games before the bye where they looked they were
looking different and we were like, Okay, this looks better.
But then after the bye week it was like, gone, yep,

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And I don't know what happened. By a way, I
don't know why. It makes no sense. So it's it's frustrating.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
You don't think they're under center enough post.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
By no, no, no, the last.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Two games they've barely been under center. And Chuck watches
the All twenty two far like, so I'm gonna take
his word for it, but like for what I've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Hell though, yeah, not it's they've they've used it, but
not not the rage. They were not the work against
against what was in Minnesota and New York. They were
really leaning on under center and it was it was
going well for the most part. I just don't know
why they did go away from that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Remember I asked that if it was planned or is
it they were in trouble, so they that's what they did.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
So I don't I don't know, guys. We'll see what
would they do. I don't know how much confidence I
haven't and this team turning around by Monday night, but
they've they've got to show something. They've got to show
something this offense. Any final thoughts before we head out
of here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Guys, I've talked enough about this dumpster fire. I'm just
gonna look at the spread. I'm interested to see what
the spread is. The Eagles are favored by three points
on the road. That's a joke. That's a joke. They
were favored by seven against the Bears. So the people

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in the desert in Las Vegas, who are way smarter
than anyone at making these lines, that comment right there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Yeah, they go away from it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I don't understand you have a dope calling place.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
That's why I don't understand how any of this team
can be favored against it, especially on the road. I
don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I wonder if brings. I wonder if they're factoring in
Herbert's injury.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
And they already know, like Vegas already knows if Justin
Herbert is gonna play or no. Somehow I don't know how, but.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
I mean like the line move as the week goes on, though.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I mean if something broke about Justin Herbert's health, yes,
it would move, and I would imagine this would shrink
because I think people are gonna see because we had
a standalone game on Amazon Prime and the Eagles look
like complete trash. So I would imagine that the public

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will be betting the Chargers even though they're not right. No, yeah,
they're really not right now. Super low over under at
forty and a half, which is really low for We're
really low for a pro football game, especially in this
day and age. I don't know the public and Las

(01:04:48):
Vegas seem to still light the Eagles way more than
the fan base. Wait, I said Vegas. I said Vegas
was crazy before the Bears game. The favor in the
Eagles by seven. And I told all my friend friends
and family about Thanksgiving that I don't see how the
Eagles can be favored by seven. Yeah, and everyone said

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I was nuts, and I was right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Yeah, all right, gentlemen, good stuff. Thank you to all
those who chimed in. Their chat was really good today.
Thank you guys for tuning in and listening and watching.
If you want some you know, detailed film breakdown and
you know more NFL talk. Pete and I will be

(01:05:34):
on PTE Evans and I will be on Film Don't Lie.
Our episode should be out Wednesday morning, so just in
time for your morning commute, watch us. So we do
some film breakdowns. We're gonna talk about the NFC playoff
picture and how that was shaken up with all the
upsets from week thirteen. It was crazy. So we'll talk
about like the Rams loss to the Panthers. We'll talk

(01:05:55):
about the Packers being the Lions. We'll talk about the
Eagles and the Bears game. So tune in on a
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the Eagles playing Monday night, we will be doing a

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recap show, so you won't see us at nine. You'll
see us right after the game ends, which should be
around one eleven between eleven eleven thirty. So catch us
right after the game and get your frustrations out about
the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Hopefully we won't be Hopefully we won't be frustrated.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Hopefully I'm not gonna get my host up just here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
I don't see how we're not going to be frustrated,
but I hope I'm not frustrated.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Exactly exactly brings for myself, for brings and for p Y.
We appreciate all of you, and we will see you
next week, and we reluctantly say go Birds.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Go Birds. Burial factor linked barrier factor