December 30, 2025 • 50 mins
The Philadelphia Eagles battled the Buffalo Bills in an ugly, tough game that went down to the wire! In this week’s Eagles Talk, we break down how the Birds managed to survive the Bills' comeback surge and secure the win and keep hopes of getting the 2nd seed in the NFC. Did this game prove they are true Super Bowl contenders, or did it expose offensive weaknesses that could hurt them in the NFL Playoffs?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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in store purchases. So not not pretty yesterday in the
monsoon that was Buffalo. But they get a w They
still have a path if they choose to take it
to the number two seed. That brings us to our
poll question. You still have some confidence that the Eagles
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offense will figure things out in the playoffs. Go ahead,
p y, spin it, Spin it spin it somehow convinced me.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It's it's so it's so hard. They make it so
hard they I don't know. I here's the crazy here's
the crazy one. I don't even think they stink. They're
just stupid. Like if they just sucked, like if Hurts
just threw fifty in their receptions, you know, if they
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ran for forty yards a game, you know, I can
look at them and be like, they just suck. But no,
they're just stupid. Like they ran. They they had a
good showing of the offense in the first half. Hurts
was effective. You ran out of empty at times, say
Kwon Win's getting get going. Jamung was on point. You're
having bootlegs, you're having play action. It was creative play
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calling and in true Eagles fashion, hmm, it's working. What
do we do? Oh? I know, run run deep all okay,
run run deep all okay, and just nothing. There's no creativity,
there's no there's nothing. Like they're just stupid. Like it's
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very hard for me to say whethern't you if.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You're stupid, don't you just think? No?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Those are You could be stupid and good. You could
just be a flat out awful offensive team. Like, I
don't think they're awful. I just think they're stupid and
they're running things unintelligently.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Why should I be confident that they're going to be
less stupid when they don't.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I don't think you should play.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
My honest opinion, if if Sirianni and Patulo are going
to call things the way they did in the second half,
you shouldn't feel confident if they call things like that
you called in the first half with clear and concise
decision making, running bootlegs, running play action, going in empty
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you know there's something to be confident about. But the
main thing with this team is consistency, and unless you
have it, they're screwed six ways from Sunday. Like, it's
just such a such a tough game, because like after that,
if they were bad in the first half and the
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Bills are just dominating them, you could just look at
that game and just be like, all right, cool, they're
just they're just bad. They're bad offensive, and you just
can't stack up to the Bills. Like you killed them
in the first half. You were great, you were you
had a good offensive planning in the first half, and
then the second half in true kp and Putuo and
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Nick Sirianni fashion. You know, they pumped their chest like
their Matthew McConaughey. You know, I feel so confident. Yeah,
look at us in the rain and then you ship
the bet in the second half.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Like, lets this listen. This is the second time in
the season that one quarterback, Jalen Hurts, had zero completions
in the first half, and surprising enough, the Eagles won
both football games. It happened yesterday against the Buffalo Bills,
and it happened earlier in the season, way back when
down in Tampa against the Buccaneers. I can't I can't
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understand it. I don't have any confidence this offense is
going to figure things out. I mean, is there any
way to spin this for the people out there, for
me and p Y that this they're gonna come out
in mid January against the Seahawks or the Niners or whoever,
probably in a home game, that it's just gonna be fixed.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't have that confidence. No, I mean, Sirianni for once,
actually after the game, you know, usually you get all that,
oh it's not just one thing, blah blah blah blah.
But yesterday he pretty much said, yeah, it was a
play college. We really screwed that up. And he now
his solution to that is that he's going to be
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more involved. Which before this season, if Sirianni said he
was going to be more involved in something, fans would
be like, ah, But now that we've experienced Kevin Patulo fully,
you know, maybe that's not a bad thing. I don't know.
There was talk that Sirianni was getting more involved in
the weeks leading up to this when things were going
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better offensively against bad teams. I don't know. I the
cynic in me wants to say, at this point, you
are who you are. They can't figure out how to
be different, and Lane Johnson coming back will make some
sort of difference, we hope, but them approaching things differently,
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them not running into stack boxes, them, you know, just
being able to get a yard or two on the
ground when the opposing team knows they're going to run them.
You know, I mean hurts. Yesterday you mentioned that you
didn't complete a pass. They only threw seven passes in
the second half. They didn't have any snaps. They threw
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seven passes. Almost all of them were like third and
ten or thirty twelve one was the yeah, against the
best pass defense in the NFL. So what why why
did you run on first and second down into the
middle of the line and then expect Hurts to be
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able to throw, you know, throw you out of it
on third down? It made no sense. And it kept
on and on and on and no, I don't you
know these guys. You mentioned week four against Tampa that
the problem. The thing there is that was Week four,
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and back then we all thought, well, a they won
the game and Tampa, and that's a heck of a thing.
You know, they never went in Tampa, and it's week four.
They'll they've got to buy coming up. They'll figure these
things out, you know, they'll work through it. But they're
the same team that they were in Week four. Really,
the defense is better than it was in Week four.
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The defense never has these problems that the offense has. Like,
you know, what happened yesterday was the Bills defensively adjusted
after the Eagles ran the ball pretty well in the
first half, and the Bills adjusted, they put everybody up
on the line and the Eagles still ran the ball. Right,
you know, the defense knows not to do the same
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things over and over again. If the offense changes what
it's doing, but the offense can't seem to figure that out.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
This might be the comment of Eagles Talk in twenty
twenty five Grendaal on YouTube Sirianni, creator of the Prevent offense.
I would like to listen. I like that a lot,
you know. I mean the quarterback, the quarter he's just
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not having a good season. I don't know what it is.
He doesn't vibe with the coaches. Seems like if everything's
not perfect for Jalen Hurts, it's hard for him to win.
And everything's not going to be perfect with this head coach,
offensive coordinator combination. I mean, the offensive line has kind
of solidified itself, did you. I mean I think it.
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I think it got better. I don't think I don't
know what.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You were watching.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The second half was just that the offensive line was
the crux of the problem. In the second half. They
couldn't run a yard. They kept running it over and
over again. They couldn't game.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Literally their fall. Literally a yard is therefore a yard,
but you can't.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
They were stupid play calls. They were stupid play calls.
But last year's offensive line could at least get a
few yards on on calls like that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
This isn't this isn't that. I'm not saying no, it's
it's offensive line.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
It's an offensive.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Line in the twenty three rushing attack.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like if you watch these guys try to block, it's
like they're they're sliding left and this guy, there's a
guy coming in unblocked, and Jurgens is like, oh okay,
I don't get you know, nobody can ever talk to
Jeff Stoutland this year. They haven't made him available. I
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can't imagine that he isn't beside himself over this. It's
just stupidity. It's not you know, people, oh he's injured.
What kind of injury is it? When you're standing there
watching a guy run past you, are you just do
you figure you can't do it? If so, you shouldn't
be out there. I don't. I don't understand. I don't
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understand what they're doing. I understand why Dallas Goddard can't block.
He always could before.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
One guy who's able to block less and they don't
put him out there. I think they had Cameron Lattu
on five plays last night.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Oh, they had Dallas Goddard at fullback, not blocking people.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, they had lats on five plays, they had twenty seven.
They had twenty seven yards on five place. What's that
like five five point two or whatever it is yards
per carry on twenty two other carries I think, or
twenty whatever it is, they have fifty five yards. So like,
they have someone who's good at blocking and they don't
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ever put him out there. And for the love of God,
why are we constantly throwing Shipley out there? Is what
is Bigsby here for? Because when you use him, you
give him opportunities. He excels second to twelve and you're
throwing you're throwing Shipley out there. You're not giving Bigsby
an opportunity. It's Calndice problem.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That was a problem certainly. Yeah, Yeah, Shipley was like
the sacrificial lamb. Yes, the give up runs, the coward draws.
You know, if you see Shipley, you know that's coming,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And you can't even throw Bigsby out there, like all right, cool,
Sequon's not getting anything. Could we throw Bigsby out for
a few plays, maybe he's able to get like one
run or something.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But yeah, the pass blocking wasn't horrible yesterday, but again
the second half they threw seven times. It was always
third long.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Uh it's scoop do eleven fifty eight on YouTube. He's
been preaching for years about consistenty. The organization doesn't care
about consistenty at offensive coordinator. I think that's a bunch
of bull I agree.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
They care, they just can't. People keep hiring these guys.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
These these teams. These teams switch offensive coordinators all the time,
and they don't skip a beat. So I'm not buying
that Baker Mayfield has a new one every every year.
Baker mayflators get hired every year. Pe why every year?
If you're a good team, your offensive coordinator's gonna get hired.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And I understand, but it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Often creates a problem. I don't know that. Everybody just
sails along beautifully sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Now to try and create consistent consistency because Kevin Botulo
is not going anywhere, I'm not buying that for a second.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
He's he's hired.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You hire an inferior candidate to try and make sure
he doesn't get poached. If you do well, so.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You you.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
To try and not get them poached. I disagree anyway,
because everyone's gonna want him fired. I don't think he's
going anywhere. I believe it when I see it.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh no, he's he's out here unless they go to
the super Bowl. There there's no way in hell that
Hallie Roseman is looking at the I will get I'll
make whatever bet you want to go to the.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Super Bowl that, yes, they might.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Sure if they go on the Super Bowl, you know what,
KP can stay unless that happens, there's no chances.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's just because I can't make sense of this NFC.
I could see all these teams losing the first playoff game.
We're going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Up playing the Rams right now. The Eagles will lose.
I mean that. I just can't see how in the world,
the way the Rams offense is operating, I can't see
how that would happen. It was great that they.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Thought, what about that game the other night on Sunday
Night foot we last night on Sunday Night football? Yeah,
fireworks show after Like the Eagles aren't capable of that,
right exactly they should be, And the frustrating thing less
is they should be because they're talented enough.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
To Yes, that's the This is an incredibly expensive offense
that operates like the Houston Texans, you know, I mean, it's.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Just Texans are doing great. They're having a great season.
They have the same as the Eagles, with an elite
defense and a pretty good quarterback, and they're a good offense.
But the Eagles aren't paying their guys to be a
average offense. They're paying their guys more and they're no money.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Tied up, and the receivers and the offensive line than
the Texans do certainly quite a bit more, but they're
getting the same results basically.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I mean, I don't know. I don't know if the
Rams would beat the Eagles right now. The Rams they
don't play any defense, but the Eagles offense stay. I
don't know. I could see outside the NFC South, which
is going to be one and done because the Buccaneers
and the Panthers they flat out stink.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Good lore the Falcons are routing them.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, I don't think the Rams are really feeling this
too much tonight, but.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You know, it's scared of anyone in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You want to see the Packers probably because they're really well, they're.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They're a train wreck and you don't even know what's
going on. If Jordan Love is really a concussion situation
and he's just still also really hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah yeah, but their defense has sustained so many injuries,
just not.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
The mic injury just killed them.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I mean the Rams offense is looking like crap right now.
The Eagles defense can slow them.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
You have to worry about is the number one seed.
They're not out there trying to life and death to
beat the damn Falcons.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't think that. I don't think they can get
the number one seed.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh yeah, well I'm sorry. Well, you know, the the uh,
the seating is all there that they have, you know,
it's it's not you know, they're.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Not as they can be as five, not that I
understand any of these playoffs scenarios.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And they might not care, is my point. I guess
you're right. They can't get the number one seat.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I mean, if you're five, you play the NFC South
champion instead of to Philly. Right, But the Eagles they
can get the two seed, yeah, which they which brings
me to my next point. They're gonna have a game
against the Commanders on Sunday. Uh outside chance of the
two seed with the Bears losing on Sunday Night football,
I don't care about the two seed. I'm resting everyone.
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I think, sit everyone down, give them a timeout, recharge
the mental batteries that maybe you can if you.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Can't beat Josh Johnson led the Commanders team, you don't
deserve the two seeds.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I don't ever hear about and.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Forever everyone who's who's horny for Tanner Rickey? This is
the game for you? Yeah, poms out.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I think the two seed would be pretty They had
the two seed last year and it worked out beautifully
for them. They got to play at home all the
way to the super Bowl, and that could very well
happen again. You know, you don't know. Two seed is
worth something? Is it worth endangering key players? I don't know.
I mean, I'm glad I have to make that decision.
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I don't I can see either side of that really well.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think the Commanders are going to be chippy.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's also why I don't want to play any of
my starters, because they're all going to hurt people.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
In my honest opinion, Well, you're gonna you're gonna be
playing a lot of your starters. I think when people
talk about that, they talk very loosely about there aren't.
With fifty three players, you can't rest all of your starters,
but you can rest the Ers and the Berkley and
the guys like that. But you're gonna be playing some starters.
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There's no way around it.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But I mean, I don't know what is it now?
Were the three seed and we get what the Niners
or the Rams?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, yeah, yeah, and the Niners are playing great and
they might get Fred. I don't think Fred Warner could
be back for the first round, but he could be
back later in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That's a tall ask though, Yeah it is. Uh, some
more comments here, and then why have Stafford and their
starters out there? I mean, I don't know, you got
me two weeks was a lot?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, I can't. I couldn't do two weeks because that's
just You're you're leaving a lot of to fate.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right, and that's just But I don't think. I don't
think they're into this game. They have the guys out there,
but I don't think they're real into this game.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I was watching a little bit earlier and they didn't
seem to be into the game. I mean, whatever, Uh, anyway,
let's know what you think in the comments. We are
going to talk about the defense.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yes, I say less. I think this is the greatest
two year stretch of defense in Egles history.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
So I wasn't you know, I was in Philly and
I was an adult, but I wasn't covering the Eagles
and I was really busy covering the fires. When the
you know, the Buddy Ryan defenses. Uh, I don't. I
can't really speak to exactly how that matches up. Those
were incredible defenses, but this is outstanding. I mean I
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saw a stat today that since Jalen Phillips arrived, the
Eagles are allowing the fewest points in the NFL. And
that's you know, that's that's what it's all about. I
felt terrible for them yesterday. That should have been a shutout.
If the offense had just picked him up a little
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bit and gotten him off the field a few times,
that would have been a shutout.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Shown anything.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, Uh, the defense was was just lights out. Jalen
Carter came back and really dealt.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
He looks legit like, he looks healthy for the first
time in a long time. Him and Jordan Davis looked
like like a two man racing crew together.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Dejane was unbelievable, fantastic. Jayl Tunt again is having.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Man like you could have asked like that was a
big question in the offseason. Are those two guys going
to step up? Like obviously losing Milton Williams and Josh
Wet hurt. But with Morow you're not missing You're not
missing Milton williys right like he's he's having a better
year than Milton Williams ever had. Obviously, Josh Wett is
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like at eleven or twelve sacks and more.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And Williams was having a very very good year for
an excellent New England team. But he got hurt, I think,
and he's missing time. But but yeah, I mean it's
Nolan Smith is the one guy the injury really bothered him.
I think. I don't think Nolan Smith has been maybe
everything they'd hoped he would be, but getting Phillips made
up for that. I don't think the last got to
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come back and add some snaps here and there. And
I think they're in great shape defensively, I really do.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I think no one's been the last three or four weeks.
I think he's been one of the most exposive players.
Next to Phillips coming off the edge like he made.
Maybe he hasn't gotten all the sacks, but he's had
pressures all over the place.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, and I really like John Campbell. Yesterday. I thought
it was good and I was a little concerned about
that because Dean was was really a catalyst with the
blitzing and that hasn't been Campbell's forte.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Look really good in pass coverage show.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
He really did. And that's the most snaps he's had,
you know, since since Nakobe got healthy.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And I hope that good.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Fine.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I hope that kind of shows Fangio a little something
to where obviously you want the Kobe playing a good
portion of the snaps, but in those clear passing situations,
trust your hot. Yeah it's first and twenty, maybe we
throw jaht out there, it's third than twelve, Maybe throw
Jahad out there, you know, yeah, four from the long
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let's see what he can do. Like obviously, na Kobe's
really good, but I just I just trust your hod
more in passing downs.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
And for you, he was on the scrap peak. I
thought apps it came in and played pretty well yesterday.
You know, he had a shaky moments early, but after that,
I thought it was very good obviously.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah that bogus see that he got busted for holding,
and I think it was the first was the first.
I didn't see much.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
There's bad There was bad play. There was bad reft
all game long.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, isn't there always though?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
There is?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But like I lose my mind on the fumble thing,
I don't know what you I want to hear what
you guys thought. Kevin Burkhark kept insisting that that looked
like a past. What universe? Is it?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
A past? Go fully forward?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Like I try not to look at this through green glasses.
But he's running sideways and he's like doing this with
the ball and the ball comes out what path?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
This was the one that went a million yards back?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
The fumble, yeah, yeah, I trust Oh his arm was
going full.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I think he's kissed. I think he's kissing the ass
of his his comment partner there. It's a tough rule
and Tom Brady's sitting right next to him, and Josh
Allen's a big time player, so it wouldn't have surprised
me at all if he got that call. I'm glad
he didn't, too obvious, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I didn't it didn't enter my mind that it was
a pass until Burkhart started talking about Franklin.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But turnover side. I guess the question is can this
defense overcome this offense? I can't playoff football in an
offensive league so that we have a legitimate chance to
defend defend the title. My answer is no. This offense not.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Playing a half like they played yesterday, you can't. You
can play a quipper like that maybe against a good team,
but you can't play the entire half that way.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
If you.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
All they had to do was one field goal drop
would have put that game away, you know, and they
couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean, it depends on what half you're getting. Less
are you getting the first half? Because if I'm getting
the first half, oh god, they'll win, we can go
to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
If I'm getting the second half, I'm one and don baby.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yes, absolutely. And you can't play an entire half like
that second half in the playoffs against anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I don't think what's a fair number for this team
to have to say, they play the Niners at the
link In on wild card weekend? What's a fair number
for this offense to put on the board to have
a chance to win twenty one twenty four good weather.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I would say twenty four.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Because they're scoring at will right now. Out there in
San Francisco, Brock thirty looks like Peyton Manning out there.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I would say, if the offense scores twenty four at
home and you still lose, then you just weren't as
good as the Niners, you know. I mean, I don't
think this offense right now isn't going to give up
twenty four very very to very many teams in very
many scenarios. If the offense scores twenty four and doesn't
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turn the ball over, I think the Eagles win against
almost anyone.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, I ten to I tend to agree, like, obviously
the offense needs to be better, but like what with
this defense, Like it's giving you an opportunity, Like they've
they've been able to keep team like you kept the
Bills under thirteen points yesterday, Like that's insane, Like they
were one of the top elite offenses in the end.
(26:30):
I no, Like you have an MVP over there, Like, yeah, they.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Hadn't scored fewer than twenty at home, They'll build that
all season fifty only one game other than that they've
been like in the thirties.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Aren't they I saw some say, are they like fifteen
to one or something in December?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, they don't lose in December. They don't lose.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Home in that weather, no way.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Right. Yeah. It was an all time defensive effort.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah. I haven't seen ask for more.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah. Yeah, a Super Bowl against Kansas City that was
was probably better because of the because of the the
takeaways and early but uh yeah, incredible, incredible.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
If you're a Jailen Carter fan, yesterday was the perfect
game yah to get him right, both physically and mentally.
You come out of that game two sacks and a
blocked extra point. The juices have to be falling, like
you have to be feeling pretty good about yourself heading
into the playoffs? Is here Jaalen car And that's a.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Huge extra point block?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, well David been doing that all year.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
They have It's the only thing that the special teams does, right.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Do you think they just have bets with each other
and be like, all right, how me do you get
in today?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
La to stepping on the the end line was just
oh my god. You know, that was just unbelievable. I
mean that he didn't need to touch the ball. The
ball was dead, it was just whistle was gonna blow.
Running in there and touching the ball with your foot
on the line is just inconceivable to me. I don't
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get it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, what did you think of the Bills going for
the win at the end with the two point conversion.
I'm doing that on hundred times out of all and.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I think Josh Allen probably makes that throw ninety times
out of one hundred.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
If I was the Bills win that game, if I'm
Sean McDermott, I kicked that, I kicked that extra point.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, you're at home, You're playing a team that had
one first down the entire second half. I was a
little surprised that he.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Went for it.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Had all the momentum like there was there's no way
the Eagles were gonna do anything in the overtime. I
would have kicked it, and I would have, But also
I guess you could argue that they've seen what the
Eagles can do in the overtime. You know, maybe that
was that was lingering.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
McDermott for doing that, but I I probably would have
kicked the point. I mean, I understand going for it
rather lose.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Like I'd rather lose like the Bills lost yesterday than
having Jordan Davis or Jalen Carter block the.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Extra another extra point that would be.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Where something happens with the weather or the snap or
the kick right, rather than having you know, the best
player on the planet miss a rare throat.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You know they cut him too.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
What's that they cut badly? Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, the kicker? Yeah yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That's a that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Like obviously, I mean, I don't know what he's I
have no idea what he's been doing out.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, it was a little low, but it was a
great block by Carter. Also, he really got up there
for a guy his size. The Eagles meanwhile, released their
long snapper today. I don't know if that's a procedural
thing where they're going to bring it back you know,
uh later in the week or what the deal is. Weird, Yeah,
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it is weird, It really is. Because everything went great
with the field goal operation yesterday. The kicking operation for
once was.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Perc Yeah, actually did his job and made his kicks
for for a change. I was proud of him. They
got to finish They got to finish those drives though,
because if you get if you get one touchdown, that
game's over at halftime, right, and it is good if.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
They call that DPI correctly. Yeah, it game's over.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
That was they should have called it. But that was
also a tough one in that the ball was almost there.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I mean it was, it was, but his arm is
being held the entire time.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
It was bang bang, you know, So what's the point
you know.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You play the Blandino being there giving his his analysis, right, Yeah,
it's one hundred percent DPI. I don't know how they could.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Not call it. Guys, there's no point those guys. Mccaulay's
wonos one.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Was a former referee and the whole purpose of him
there sometimes the one at every game.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Sometimes they explained a nuance that you know, maybe wasn't
a parent, but other than that, yeah, it just highlights
how bad the officiating is. Now that sky shot. They
shouldn't have done that, you know, which is increasingly what happens, is.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
They I mean, I didn't have a problem with the
not call. Yeah, whatever it was, as long as they're
going to let our guys play.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah, their guys can play. But on the divine I
was a little more exercised about that. I thought that
would catch. I you know, I'm so old. I remember
before they had replay and all those balls were catches
because nobody could see. Yeah, you didn't have HD TV
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and and nobody cared if the ball touched the ground.
I don't know how touches the ground, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I mean, the idea that the ball can't move is
a concept that's just come up within the last ten years.
If your hand's under the ball, I think the ball
can hit the ground. I'm sorry that I you know,
but that isn't the way they do it in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I want to know how that's not a catch. But
the Brandon Cooks one where it clearly touches the ground
was a catch.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, he's got it. Cooks has it like this and
it touches the ground, and somehow that's okay. I don't know.
Maybe you couldn't see the ball moved in that one.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Nixon and Gritty nineteen thoughts on Elliott I get nervous
hit or miss lately. We Ately, he's been statistically the
worst kicker in the NFL since the start of the
twenty twenty four season, consistently misses kicks, so you should
be nervous.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I'm nervous not when it matters.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well he better.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, he had a great Super Bowl, as is everybody else.
But I don't know. He was good yesterday. We'll see
how it goes. There doesn't seem to be an injury
like last year. I think there was an injury that
he had to get over, but this year, I don't
know what it is. He hit yesterday, so I'm not
as nervous as I was before yesterday. I guess.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
AJ was a little relaxed on that play, sell it
a little bit. The guy was clamping.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Didn't protest, and I think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
You know, all right, well if they can hold for
ten yards, then well AJ.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I think one reason AJ doesn't protest all the time
is AJ pushes people off all the time. He doesn't
want to get called for that. True, it's like people
calling this is another this is a tangent. But Jalen
Carter never gets the holding calls. Do you know one
reason why Jalen Carter doesn't get the holding calls?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
See punches people in the face.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
And the Buffalo line that had to leave the game
after his eye got dounged yesterday and there was no
call for that.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Hey man, less, there ain't nothing wrong with it too,
lest there ain't nothing wrong well, little two biscuits special.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
You know, all like that don't get calls. You know,
if you're if you're a guy that they think is
bending the rules, you know, it's more of a shrug.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
He's like if Mike Tyson. He's like if Mike Tyson
was a d tackle. At times, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Ryan Swoop. Eagles on paper have tremendous players on offense,
no reason they should be this bad. It's definitely the quarterback.
It's I don't know. Sometimes they are inconsistent and can't
play full four quarters. It's always one half then very bad.
It's not the coaching. Why is hurt so bad? I've
been asking that question for a weeks.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
If it's bad, then how is he good in the
first half? How is he making that incredible throw down
the sideline on the run in the first half but
he's bad in the second half. I don't I don't.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Get that is all on the coaching. None of that's
a lot of it's on the I think again, if
you call two runs in a row as they did
four straight series, don't gain yardage and depend on the
quarterback to bail you out in third and long against
the best pass defense in the league. I don't think
that's a quarterback problem. I really don't. Maybe I'm wrong,
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but I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
If you listen to any like people who are breaking
down film or watching the Eagles game like they'll they'll
they'll pretty much tell you whether or not the quarterback
played bad or what they're seeing on there. The major
factor of what they see on a week out and
week out, weekend and week out basis is the scheming
makes no sense. The routes they're having them put together
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are insane. The play calls, they can't determine who's going
to be open, who's the read is supposed to be,
and they can tell that, how the hell is the
quarterback supposed to look at this? And you're like, well,
you know all this, I got it.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
It's somewhere, yeah, I And the other thing is, you
know they with Hurts they get to the line, and
it's not Hurts his fault that the play isn't coming in,
so he can't switch to an audible when he gets
to the line with five.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Seconds left exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Uh, it's uh, it's it's I mean, I'm sure there's
some element of hurts. Would they be a better team
if you know, if if Matthew Stafford was the quarterback,
quite probably. Yeah, but it hurts a huge problem for them. No,
I'm sorry he isn't.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
It's his play call, man, it's the play call. It's
it's the stuff they're putting out there. It's the lack
of creativity. It's thee Yeah, the offensive line, the conservative nature,
like it's just it's killing them. And the quarterback so
clearly wants to just break out and just do what
he wants to do. But next Nick is just hand
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tying them in the in the second half. You can
tell in these games where his whole concept is, well,
we're just gonna run it out. We're just gonna run out. Okay,
it's third and long jail and I guess you can
throw We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Man happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, in the seven plays, Yeah, I think four or
five were throwaways. One was the Davante and like one
was there at the two yard line he had to
run and throw throw it away. Like no, like there
may have been one real concept that they throwed that
he threw that meant something and it was I think
(37:44):
it was like a Dallas dollar drop.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, tough ones.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
What do we think of the head coach? Uh back
to his uh flamboyant bravado after he did a very
poor job of coaching the team.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's not even the fact that he did it. That
is a little freaking stooge did it with him?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Who's his stude Kevin Patoul He's right there if you
watch it, he's right next to him, like yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, Evan Patula being jacked.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Up is I don't get it. I don't get what
Sirianni gets from that. I don't see how you can
be in that mode after.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
That, I'm last. He can't help it.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You survive because one of the best quarterbacks in the
league misses a throw for a two point conversion and you're.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Did you see a brown?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
He's rolling his eyes. He's just like what I he's
backed the Syrian. He's backed himself into a corner with
his antics like this, because the second he stops winning,
he's going to be out of here. Yeah, because this stuff,
this stuff is all cool and good when you're winning, yes,
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but when you lose, like if they come out next
year and they go seven to ten for whatever reason,
you're going to be on the chopping block because your
your antics are going to be old and tired. I
think you'd get a two year leash, like if they
came out and they lost last year. I don't think
he's a very good coach.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I disagree. I think he's a good coach.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
You keep winning somehow. I don't know, Uh, he's.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Good because they win all these games, and it seems
like the quarterback and the head coach, which are supposed
to be the lynch pins of your organization, have very
little to do with it.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I disagree with that statement.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I don't know, I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I think they play very Kevin Batulo and Nick Sirian
I mean, I don't hate, yeah, I hate. Can not
hold Jalen Hurts responsible at all for the poor offensive play.
I disassure with that play.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Hurt a little bit responsible. I don't think it's his.
I don't think it's a problem with him necessarily. I
don't think he's the best. You know, you could find
four or five quarterbacks probably better than than Jalen Hurts certainly.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
But.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Is he really the root of their problems? No, I
certainly don't.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Don't think he's done much to help. I don't think
he's had a very good season.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Who's helping with the garbage they're throwing out there with
the offensive line not being able.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Jalen Hurts makes fifty million dollars a year, people, I
guess what's to overcome A little bit?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, Yeah, I kind of felt like if he could
have gotten a few first downs with his legs yesterday,
that would have that would have loosened things. I don't
think they wanted him to I think what we were
talking about about the Rams or leer about the Rams
playing the Falcons tonight, I think you saw a little
(41:04):
bit of that with the Eagles yesterday. Frankly, I don't
think they wanted Hurts to do anything that would you know,
two to three seed. You know, it's not that you
don't need to lose your quarterback over that, and I
can understand that. But it was infuriating to watch. It
really was.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It was just head scratching, yeah, because they just everything
that worked and everything that was cooking in the first half,
they just went away with it and they want pure
Turtle mode. In my opinion, turtle just going right and
it shall and just playing scared and playing play to
win games.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
They play not to lose. Yes, yeah, problem frustrating because
they have they have the personnel to be killers.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yes, yes, yes that is the case.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yes, but this is also the problem is oh Jesus, yeah,
going on here?
Speaker 3 (42:00):
No what I can't I can't, Ryan, hang on, buddy,
uh do.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
O t bird go find these mystical quarterbacks that are
easy to find, so easy to find a quarterback that
can win a Super Bowl that every other team decides
not to. I don't understand the point of your.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
The point is if every other quarterback is and.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
He doesn't like that I just said something bad about Jalen.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
You you can say something bad Jalen like there's nothing
wrong with that, Like you're not his highest fan right now.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Okay, he's had way more horrendous games than good games
this season.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I don't know about that. I think he's been I
think he had the first half of the season. I
thought he was just fine.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Uh and.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Be just fine.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well, you pay them to win to win won year
a super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Another one. I'm sick of hearing about up the Super
Bowl last year. He's thick of it this year the
rest of your life. Because you won the super Bowl
last year. Great news, Great news.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
He's gonna He's going leading this team to the playoffs
for five straight years.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I play pretty well. They don't run an offense where
the quarterback is going to throw for four hundred yards
or anything. You know he's not going to do. They
won games, and he was efficient the first half of
the season, and I think that's what they look for.
It would be wonderful if it was more than that,
but that's the offense that they run, and I don't
(43:39):
think it was his fault. A lot of those games
he was completing like twenty one out of twenty five
passes or something. What else is there than that. I
now after the when they hit that losing streak, he
really things went bad. He was not good, especially obviously
the San Diego the Chargers game. But I don't think
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he's been horrendous all season or anything like that. I
think he's been okay ish, not nearly as good as
you'd like for him to be.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
He has not lived up to my expectations this season.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I can go along with that sure. Yeah, and the
Rams are down twenty one nothing.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
At the Yeah, so they clearly just don't They're just
mailing it in on the road, which is fine whatever.
I don't think they can have it up here nine
six and one, So the lowest they can be is
the sixth seed.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Maybe they're trying to maneuver into a set into playing
the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Care for what you wish for you, you just might
get it. I know I'm kidding, but they say, well,
the Niners and the Seahawks are going to play for
the division and the one seed on Saturday night, right,
go Niners. I'd rather play the Seahawks than the Niners.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah. I want to avoid brock Party and the Niners
for as long as I possibly can. I don't want
any parts of them right now.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah. And if they get the one seed, their home
all the way and in the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
And in the super Bowl, Yes, super Bowl obviously in
Levi Stadium, ount in San Francisco. The Bears are a
good team, But I'm not scared of the Bears.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, like they beat up on us, but I just
think there was a really bad stretch for this team
and also came up as much as I think of him,
I think very highly of him. Clearly not a bust,
but he's never played in the playoffs. He's never been
in that environment before, and he's not.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Quite there yet. There was a good point made on
that broadcast last night about he made some incredible plays
and he missed some some real basic throats. Yeah, I
mean he.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Missed the wide DJ Moore was in, don't.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
I don't think he saw him, like, Like, that's a
huge issue. If he was on the left hand side
and Cable missed him, that's one. That's one thing, but
like he wasn't in his line of vision in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
But their defense really got mauled by the forty nine
ers and they lost to people I think.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, I mean honestly, even looking in the AFC, like
I think, if you exclude the NFC South, you can
put thirteen teams in the hat and pull one out
and you can make an argument for all of them
that they're going to win it all. Yeah, there's no
clear favorite in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Which is why if this is Josh Allen's the year
and he doesn't make a super Bowl when in a
year without Joe Burrow, without Patrick Mahomes most likely without
Lamar Jackson is inexcusable.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah. I don't think their oad line is good enough,
and I don't really think their defense is good enough.
Despite what the Eagles did yesterday. The Bills they're good,
but I don't. I'd be kind of surprised if they
made the super Bowl. Frankly, after watching them for sixty
minutes yesterday.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
I agree. Are closing thoughts heading into the Commander's game
or big picture whatever you want to do. P Y.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Tanner time baby.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah, hopefully he does good and they can trade him
in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
God bless Oh what's that you want? The first round pick?
Come on down?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, maybe someone will overpay for him. He's taking into college.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
As a rocket. Please give me a first Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
My closing thought is that I was just tremendously disappointed
yesterday because the two games leading up to yesterday, you
could sort of fool yourself into thinking the offense had
found some consistency and some rhythm. They were doing some things,
as we've all mentioned, you know, the under center empty
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things like that play action boots, and they sort of
did a little of it yesterday, and then they stopped
and you saw them be the team that they've been
all year, which is just you know, inviting catastrophe. And
if you invite catastrophe in the in the playoffs, it's
likely to show up. It doesn't miss many invitations. And
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I just found it incredibly disheartening the way they ended
that game offensively obviously not talking unless I.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Mean going back to the pole question. In my experience
watching sports, and I watched these teams with a fine
tooth comb that Eagles and the Phillies especially, your flaws
don't get fixed when the lights turn get turned on
the brightest, they get put under a microsop and get worse. Yeah,
look at the Phillies, everyone, they go on these cold
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spells and then everyone just says Wolves they have to
do is just hit a bunch of home runs and
in October and they're gonna win hot.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
It doesn't work like that, right, it gets worse. You're
your Yeah, your flaws get exacerbated, not fixed.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
The only straw to grasp there is Lane Johnson. And
it's probably not enough to me to get this team
back to the super Bowl, but we'll see.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
All right, Well that'll do it for Eagles. Talk for
Peter Young Les Bowen, I'm Rob Brinkman. We will have
a time and a place for the Eagles wild Card
playoff matchup next Monday, so stay tuned for that until then,
Peace out, everybody
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Happy New Year.
Hell you let me get the hell you will help beyond.
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in store purchases. So not not pretty yesterday in the
monsoon that was Buffalo. But they get a w They
still have a path if they choose to take it
to the number two seed. That brings us to our
poll question. You still have some confidence that the Eagles
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offense will figure things out in the playoffs. Go ahead,
p y, spin it, Spin it spin it somehow convinced me.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It's it's so it's so hard. They make it so
hard they I don't know. I here's the crazy here's
the crazy one. I don't even think they stink. They're
just stupid. Like if they just sucked, like if Hurts
just threw fifty in their receptions, you know, if they
(01:58):
ran for forty yards a game, you know, I can
look at them and be like, they just suck. But no,
they're just stupid. Like they ran. They they had a
good showing of the offense in the first half. Hurts
was effective. You ran out of empty at times, say
Kwon Win's getting get going. Jamung was on point. You're
having bootlegs, you're having play action. It was creative play
(02:22):
calling and in true Eagles fashion, hmm, it's working. What
do we do? Oh? I know, run run deep all okay,
run run deep all okay, and just nothing. There's no creativity,
there's no there's nothing. Like they're just stupid. Like it's
(02:42):
very hard for me to say whethern't you if.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You're stupid, don't you just think? No?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Those are You could be stupid and good. You could
just be a flat out awful offensive team. Like, I
don't think they're awful. I just think they're stupid and
they're running things unintelligently.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Why should I be confident that they're going to be
less stupid when they don't.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I don't think you should play.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
My honest opinion, if if Sirianni and Patulo are going
to call things the way they did in the second half,
you shouldn't feel confident if they call things like that
you called in the first half with clear and concise
decision making, running bootlegs, running play action, going in empty
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you know there's something to be confident about. But the
main thing with this team is consistency, and unless you
have it, they're screwed six ways from Sunday. Like, it's
just such a such a tough game, because like after that,
if they were bad in the first half and the
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Bills are just dominating them, you could just look at
that game and just be like, all right, cool, they're
just they're just bad. They're bad offensive, and you just
can't stack up to the Bills. Like you killed them
in the first half. You were great, you were you
had a good offensive planning in the first half, and
then the second half in true kp and Putuo and
(04:15):
Nick Sirianni fashion. You know, they pumped their chest like
their Matthew McConaughey. You know, I feel so confident. Yeah,
look at us in the rain and then you ship
the bet in the second half.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Like, lets this listen. This is the second time in
the season that one quarterback, Jalen Hurts, had zero completions
in the first half, and surprising enough, the Eagles won
both football games. It happened yesterday against the Buffalo Bills,
and it happened earlier in the season, way back when
down in Tampa against the Buccaneers. I can't I can't
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understand it. I don't have any confidence this offense is
going to figure things out. I mean, is there any
way to spin this for the people out there, for
me and p Y that this they're gonna come out
in mid January against the Seahawks or the Niners or whoever,
probably in a home game, that it's just gonna be fixed.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't have that confidence. No, I mean, Sirianni for once,
actually after the game, you know, usually you get all that,
oh it's not just one thing, blah blah blah blah.
But yesterday he pretty much said, yeah, it was a
play college. We really screwed that up. And he now
his solution to that is that he's going to be
(05:35):
more involved. Which before this season, if Sirianni said he
was going to be more involved in something, fans would
be like, ah, But now that we've experienced Kevin Patulo fully,
you know, maybe that's not a bad thing. I don't know.
There was talk that Sirianni was getting more involved in
the weeks leading up to this when things were going
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better offensively against bad teams. I don't know. I the
cynic in me wants to say, at this point, you
are who you are. They can't figure out how to
be different, and Lane Johnson coming back will make some
sort of difference, we hope, but them approaching things differently,
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them not running into stack boxes, them, you know, just
being able to get a yard or two on the
ground when the opposing team knows they're going to run them.
You know, I mean hurts. Yesterday you mentioned that you
didn't complete a pass. They only threw seven passes in
the second half. They didn't have any snaps. They threw
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seven passes. Almost all of them were like third and
ten or thirty twelve one was the yeah, against the
best pass defense in the NFL. So what why why
did you run on first and second down into the
middle of the line and then expect Hurts to be
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able to throw, you know, throw you out of it
on third down? It made no sense. And it kept
on and on and on and no, I don't you
know these guys. You mentioned week four against Tampa that
the problem. The thing there is that was Week four,
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and back then we all thought, well, a they won
the game and Tampa, and that's a heck of a thing.
You know, they never went in Tampa, and it's week four.
They'll they've got to buy coming up. They'll figure these
things out, you know, they'll work through it. But they're
the same team that they were in Week four. Really,
the defense is better than it was in Week four.
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The defense never has these problems that the offense has. Like,
you know, what happened yesterday was the Bills defensively adjusted
after the Eagles ran the ball pretty well in the
first half, and the Bills adjusted, they put everybody up
on the line and the Eagles still ran the ball. Right,
you know, the defense knows not to do the same
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things over and over again. If the offense changes what
it's doing, but the offense can't seem to figure that out.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
This might be the comment of Eagles Talk in twenty
twenty five Grendaal on YouTube Sirianni, creator of the Prevent offense.
I would like to listen. I like that a lot,
you know. I mean the quarterback, the quarter he's just
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not having a good season. I don't know what it is.
He doesn't vibe with the coaches. Seems like if everything's
not perfect for Jalen Hurts, it's hard for him to win.
And everything's not going to be perfect with this head coach,
offensive coordinator combination. I mean, the offensive line has kind
of solidified itself, did you. I mean I think it.
(09:02):
I think it got better. I don't think I don't
know what.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You were watching.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The second half was just that the offensive line was
the crux of the problem. In the second half. They
couldn't run a yard. They kept running it over and
over again. They couldn't game.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Literally their fall. Literally a yard is therefore a yard,
but you can't.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
They were stupid play calls. They were stupid play calls.
But last year's offensive line could at least get a
few yards on on calls like that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
This isn't this isn't that. I'm not saying no, it's
it's offensive line.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
It's an offensive.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Line in the twenty three rushing attack.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like if you watch these guys try to block, it's
like they're they're sliding left and this guy, there's a
guy coming in unblocked, and Jurgens is like, oh okay,
I don't get you know, nobody can ever talk to
Jeff Stoutland this year. They haven't made him available. I
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can't imagine that he isn't beside himself over this. It's
just stupidity. It's not you know, people, oh he's injured.
What kind of injury is it? When you're standing there
watching a guy run past you, are you just do
you figure you can't do it? If so, you shouldn't
be out there. I don't. I don't understand. I don't
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understand what they're doing. I understand why Dallas Goddard can't block.
He always could before.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
One guy who's able to block less and they don't
put him out there. I think they had Cameron Lattu
on five plays last night.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Oh, they had Dallas Goddard at fullback, not blocking people.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, they had lats on five plays, they had twenty seven.
They had twenty seven yards on five place. What's that
like five five point two or whatever it is yards
per carry on twenty two other carries I think, or
twenty whatever it is, they have fifty five yards. So like,
they have someone who's good at blocking and they don't
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ever put him out there. And for the love of God,
why are we constantly throwing Shipley out there? Is what
is Bigsby here for? Because when you use him, you
give him opportunities. He excels second to twelve and you're
throwing you're throwing Shipley out there. You're not giving Bigsby
an opportunity. It's Calndice problem.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That was a problem certainly. Yeah, Yeah, Shipley was like
the sacrificial lamb. Yes, the give up runs, the coward draws.
You know, if you see Shipley, you know that's coming,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And you can't even throw Bigsby out there, like all right, cool,
Sequon's not getting anything. Could we throw Bigsby out for
a few plays, maybe he's able to get like one
run or something.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But yeah, the pass blocking wasn't horrible yesterday, but again
the second half they threw seven times. It was always
third long.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Uh it's scoop do eleven fifty eight on YouTube. He's
been preaching for years about consistenty. The organization doesn't care
about consistenty at offensive coordinator. I think that's a bunch
of bull I agree.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
They care, they just can't. People keep hiring these guys.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
These these teams. These teams switch offensive coordinators all the time,
and they don't skip a beat. So I'm not buying
that Baker Mayfield has a new one every every year.
Baker mayflators get hired every year. Pe why every year?
If you're a good team, your offensive coordinator's gonna get hired.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And I understand, but it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Often creates a problem. I don't know that. Everybody just
sails along beautifully sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Now to try and create consistent consistency because Kevin Botulo
is not going anywhere, I'm not buying that for a second.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
He's he's hired.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You hire an inferior candidate to try and make sure
he doesn't get poached. If you do well, so.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You you.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
To try and not get them poached. I disagree anyway,
because everyone's gonna want him fired. I don't think he's
going anywhere. I believe it when I see it.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh no, he's he's out here unless they go to
the super Bowl. There there's no way in hell that
Hallie Roseman is looking at the I will get I'll
make whatever bet you want to go to the.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Super Bowl that, yes, they might.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Sure if they go on the Super Bowl, you know what,
KP can stay unless that happens, there's no chances.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's just because I can't make sense of this NFC.
I could see all these teams losing the first playoff game.
We're going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Up playing the Rams right now. The Eagles will lose.
I mean that. I just can't see how in the world,
the way the Rams offense is operating, I can't see
how that would happen. It was great that they.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Thought, what about that game the other night on Sunday
Night foot we last night on Sunday Night football? Yeah,
fireworks show after Like the Eagles aren't capable of that,
right exactly they should be, And the frustrating thing less
is they should be because they're talented enough.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
To Yes, that's the This is an incredibly expensive offense
that operates like the Houston Texans, you know, I mean, it's.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Just Texans are doing great. They're having a great season.
They have the same as the Eagles, with an elite
defense and a pretty good quarterback, and they're a good offense.
But the Eagles aren't paying their guys to be a
average offense. They're paying their guys more and they're no money.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Tied up, and the receivers and the offensive line than
the Texans do certainly quite a bit more, but they're
getting the same results basically.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I mean, I don't know. I don't know if the
Rams would beat the Eagles right now. The Rams they
don't play any defense, but the Eagles offense stay. I
don't know. I could see outside the NFC South, which
is going to be one and done because the Buccaneers
and the Panthers they flat out stink.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Good lore the Falcons are routing them.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, I don't think the Rams are really feeling this
too much tonight, but.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You know, it's scared of anyone in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You want to see the Packers probably because they're really well, they're.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They're a train wreck and you don't even know what's
going on. If Jordan Love is really a concussion situation
and he's just still also really hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah yeah, but their defense has sustained so many injuries,
just not.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
The mic injury just killed them.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I mean the Rams offense is looking like crap right now.
The Eagles defense can slow them.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
You have to worry about is the number one seed.
They're not out there trying to life and death to
beat the damn Falcons.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't think that. I don't think they can get
the number one seed.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh yeah, well I'm sorry. Well, you know, the the uh,
the seating is all there that they have, you know,
it's it's not you know, they're.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Not as they can be as five, not that I
understand any of these playoffs scenarios.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And they might not care, is my point. I guess
you're right. They can't get the number one seat.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I mean, if you're five, you play the NFC South
champion instead of to Philly. Right, But the Eagles they
can get the two seed, yeah, which they which brings
me to my next point. They're gonna have a game
against the Commanders on Sunday. Uh outside chance of the
two seed with the Bears losing on Sunday Night football,
I don't care about the two seed. I'm resting everyone.
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I think, sit everyone down, give them a timeout, recharge
the mental batteries that maybe you can if you.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Can't beat Josh Johnson led the Commanders team, you don't
deserve the two seeds.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I don't ever hear about and.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Forever everyone who's who's horny for Tanner Rickey? This is
the game for you? Yeah, poms out.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I think the two seed would be pretty They had
the two seed last year and it worked out beautifully
for them. They got to play at home all the
way to the super Bowl, and that could very well
happen again. You know, you don't know. Two seed is
worth something? Is it worth endangering key players? I don't know.
I mean, I'm glad I have to make that decision.
(17:31):
I don't I can see either side of that really well.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think the Commanders are going to be chippy.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's also why I don't want to play any of
my starters, because they're all going to hurt people.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
In my honest opinion, Well, you're gonna you're gonna be
playing a lot of your starters. I think when people
talk about that, they talk very loosely about there aren't.
With fifty three players, you can't rest all of your starters,
but you can rest the Ers and the Berkley and
the guys like that. But you're gonna be playing some starters.
(18:06):
There's no way around it.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But I mean, I don't know what is it now?
Were the three seed and we get what the Niners
or the Rams?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, yeah, yeah, and the Niners are playing great and
they might get Fred. I don't think Fred Warner could
be back for the first round, but he could be
back later in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That's a tall ask though, Yeah it is. Uh, some
more comments here, and then why have Stafford and their
starters out there? I mean, I don't know, you got
me two weeks was a lot?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, I can't. I couldn't do two weeks because that's
just You're you're leaving a lot of to fate.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right, and that's just But I don't think. I don't
think they're into this game. They have the guys out there,
but I don't think they're real into this game.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I was watching a little bit earlier and they didn't
seem to be into the game. I mean, whatever, Uh, anyway,
let's know what you think in the comments. We are
going to talk about the defense.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yes, I say less. I think this is the greatest
two year stretch of defense in Egles history.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
So I wasn't you know, I was in Philly and
I was an adult, but I wasn't covering the Eagles
and I was really busy covering the fires. When the
you know, the Buddy Ryan defenses. Uh, I don't. I
can't really speak to exactly how that matches up. Those
were incredible defenses, but this is outstanding. I mean I
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saw a stat today that since Jalen Phillips arrived, the
Eagles are allowing the fewest points in the NFL. And
that's you know, that's that's what it's all about. I
felt terrible for them yesterday. That should have been a shutout.
If the offense had just picked him up a little
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bit and gotten him off the field a few times,
that would have been a shutout.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Shown anything.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, Uh, the defense was was just lights out. Jalen
Carter came back and really dealt.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
He looks legit like, he looks healthy for the first
time in a long time. Him and Jordan Davis looked
like like a two man racing crew together.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Dejane was unbelievable, fantastic. Jayl Tunt again is having.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Man like you could have asked like that was a
big question in the offseason. Are those two guys going
to step up? Like obviously losing Milton Williams and Josh
Wet hurt. But with Morow you're not missing You're not
missing Milton williys right like he's he's having a better
year than Milton Williams ever had. Obviously, Josh Wett is
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like at eleven or twelve sacks and more.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And Williams was having a very very good year for
an excellent New England team. But he got hurt, I think,
and he's missing time. But but yeah, I mean it's
Nolan Smith is the one guy the injury really bothered him.
I think. I don't think Nolan Smith has been maybe
everything they'd hoped he would be, but getting Phillips made
up for that. I don't think the last got to
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come back and add some snaps here and there. And
I think they're in great shape defensively, I really do.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I think no one's been the last three or four weeks.
I think he's been one of the most exposive players.
Next to Phillips coming off the edge like he made.
Maybe he hasn't gotten all the sacks, but he's had
pressures all over the place.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, and I really like John Campbell. Yesterday. I thought
it was good and I was a little concerned about
that because Dean was was really a catalyst with the
blitzing and that hasn't been Campbell's forte.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Look really good in pass coverage show.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
He really did. And that's the most snaps he's had,
you know, since since Nakobe got healthy.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And I hope that good.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Fine.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I hope that kind of shows Fangio a little something
to where obviously you want the Kobe playing a good
portion of the snaps, but in those clear passing situations,
trust your hot. Yeah it's first and twenty, maybe we
throw jaht out there, it's third than twelve, Maybe throw
Jahad out there, you know, yeah, four from the long
(22:43):
let's see what he can do. Like obviously, na Kobe's
really good, but I just I just trust your hod
more in passing downs.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
And for you, he was on the scrap peak. I
thought apps it came in and played pretty well yesterday.
You know, he had a shaky moments early, but after that,
I thought it was very good obviously.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah that bogus see that he got busted for holding,
and I think it was the first was the first.
I didn't see much.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
There's bad There was bad play. There was bad reft
all game long.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, isn't there always though?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
There is?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But like I lose my mind on the fumble thing,
I don't know what you I want to hear what
you guys thought. Kevin Burkhark kept insisting that that looked
like a past. What universe? Is it?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
A past? Go fully forward?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Like I try not to look at this through green glasses.
But he's running sideways and he's like doing this with
the ball and the ball comes out what path?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
This was the one that went a million yards back?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
The fumble, yeah, yeah, I trust Oh his arm was
going full.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I think he's kissed. I think he's kissing the ass
of his his comment partner there. It's a tough rule
and Tom Brady's sitting right next to him, and Josh
Allen's a big time player, so it wouldn't have surprised
me at all if he got that call. I'm glad
he didn't, too obvious, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I didn't it didn't enter my mind that it was
a pass until Burkhart started talking about Franklin.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But turnover side. I guess the question is can this
defense overcome this offense? I can't playoff football in an
offensive league so that we have a legitimate chance to
defend defend the title. My answer is no. This offense not.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Playing a half like they played yesterday, you can't. You
can play a quipper like that maybe against a good team,
but you can't play the entire half that way.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
If you.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
All they had to do was one field goal drop
would have put that game away, you know, and they
couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean, it depends on what half you're getting. Less
are you getting the first half? Because if I'm getting
the first half, oh god, they'll win, we can go
to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
If I'm getting the second half, I'm one and don baby.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yes, absolutely. And you can't play an entire half like
that second half in the playoffs against anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I don't think what's a fair number for this team
to have to say, they play the Niners at the
link In on wild card weekend? What's a fair number
for this offense to put on the board to have
a chance to win twenty one twenty four good weather.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I would say twenty four.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Because they're scoring at will right now. Out there in
San Francisco, Brock thirty looks like Peyton Manning out there.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I would say, if the offense scores twenty four at
home and you still lose, then you just weren't as
good as the Niners, you know. I mean, I don't
think this offense right now isn't going to give up
twenty four very very to very many teams in very
many scenarios. If the offense scores twenty four and doesn't
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turn the ball over, I think the Eagles win against
almost anyone.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, I ten to I tend to agree, like, obviously
the offense needs to be better, but like what with
this defense, Like it's giving you an opportunity, Like they've
they've been able to keep team like you kept the
Bills under thirteen points yesterday, Like that's insane, Like they
were one of the top elite offenses in the end.
(26:30):
I no, Like you have an MVP over there, Like, yeah, they.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Hadn't scored fewer than twenty at home, They'll build that
all season fifty only one game other than that they've
been like in the thirties.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Aren't they I saw some say, are they like fifteen
to one or something in December?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, they don't lose in December. They don't lose.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Home in that weather, no way.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Right. Yeah. It was an all time defensive effort.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah. I haven't seen ask for more.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah. Yeah, a Super Bowl against Kansas City that was
was probably better because of the because of the the
takeaways and early but uh yeah, incredible, incredible.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
If you're a Jailen Carter fan, yesterday was the perfect
game yah to get him right, both physically and mentally.
You come out of that game two sacks and a
blocked extra point. The juices have to be falling, like
you have to be feeling pretty good about yourself heading
into the playoffs? Is here Jaalen car And that's a.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Huge extra point block?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, well David been doing that all year.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
They have It's the only thing that the special teams does, right.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Do you think they just have bets with each other
and be like, all right, how me do you get
in today?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
La to stepping on the the end line was just
oh my god. You know, that was just unbelievable. I
mean that he didn't need to touch the ball. The
ball was dead, it was just whistle was gonna blow.
Running in there and touching the ball with your foot
on the line is just inconceivable to me. I don't
(28:14):
get it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, what did you think of the Bills going for
the win at the end with the two point conversion.
I'm doing that on hundred times out of all and.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I think Josh Allen probably makes that throw ninety times
out of one hundred.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
If I was the Bills win that game, if I'm
Sean McDermott, I kicked that, I kicked that extra point.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, you're at home, You're playing a team that had
one first down the entire second half. I was a
little surprised that he.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Went for it.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Had all the momentum like there was there's no way
the Eagles were gonna do anything in the overtime. I
would have kicked it, and I would have, But also
I guess you could argue that they've seen what the
Eagles can do in the overtime. You know, maybe that
was that was lingering.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
McDermott for doing that, but I I probably would have
kicked the point. I mean, I understand going for it
rather lose.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Like I'd rather lose like the Bills lost yesterday than
having Jordan Davis or Jalen Carter block the.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Extra another extra point that would be.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Where something happens with the weather or the snap or
the kick right, rather than having you know, the best
player on the planet miss a rare throat.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You know they cut him too.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
What's that they cut badly? Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, the kicker? Yeah yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That's a that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Like obviously, I mean, I don't know what he's I
have no idea what he's been doing out.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, it was a little low, but it was a
great block by Carter. Also, he really got up there
for a guy his size. The Eagles meanwhile, released their
long snapper today. I don't know if that's a procedural
thing where they're going to bring it back you know,
uh later in the week or what the deal is. Weird, Yeah,
(30:06):
it is weird, It really is. Because everything went great
with the field goal operation yesterday. The kicking operation for
once was.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Perc Yeah, actually did his job and made his kicks
for for a change. I was proud of him. They
got to finish They got to finish those drives though,
because if you get if you get one touchdown, that
game's over at halftime, right, and it is good if.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
They call that DPI correctly. Yeah, it game's over.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
That was they should have called it. But that was
also a tough one in that the ball was almost there.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I mean it was, it was, but his arm is
being held the entire time.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
It was bang bang, you know, So what's the point
you know.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You play the Blandino being there giving his his analysis, right, Yeah,
it's one hundred percent DPI. I don't know how they could.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Not call it. Guys, there's no point those guys. Mccaulay's
wonos one.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Was a former referee and the whole purpose of him
there sometimes the one at every game.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Sometimes they explained a nuance that you know, maybe wasn't
a parent, but other than that, yeah, it just highlights
how bad the officiating is. Now that sky shot. They
shouldn't have done that, you know, which is increasingly what happens, is.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
They I mean, I didn't have a problem with the
not call. Yeah, whatever it was, as long as they're
going to let our guys play.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah, their guys can play. But on the divine I
was a little more exercised about that. I thought that
would catch. I you know, I'm so old. I remember
before they had replay and all those balls were catches
because nobody could see. Yeah, you didn't have HD TV
(31:56):
and and nobody cared if the ball touched the ground.
I don't know how touches the ground, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I mean, the idea that the ball can't move is
a concept that's just come up within the last ten years.
If your hand's under the ball, I think the ball
can hit the ground. I'm sorry that I you know,
but that isn't the way they do it in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I want to know how that's not a catch. But
the Brandon Cooks one where it clearly touches the ground
was a catch.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, he's got it. Cooks has it like this and
it touches the ground, and somehow that's okay. I don't know.
Maybe you couldn't see the ball moved in that one.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Nixon and Gritty nineteen thoughts on Elliott I get nervous
hit or miss lately. We Ately, he's been statistically the
worst kicker in the NFL since the start of the
twenty twenty four season, consistently misses kicks, so you should
be nervous.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I'm nervous not when it matters.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well he better.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, he had a great Super Bowl, as is everybody else.
But I don't know. He was good yesterday. We'll see
how it goes. There doesn't seem to be an injury
like last year. I think there was an injury that
he had to get over, but this year, I don't
know what it is. He hit yesterday, so I'm not
as nervous as I was before yesterday. I guess.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
AJ was a little relaxed on that play, sell it
a little bit. The guy was clamping.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Didn't protest, and I think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
You know, all right, well if they can hold for
ten yards, then well AJ.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I think one reason AJ doesn't protest all the time
is AJ pushes people off all the time. He doesn't
want to get called for that. True, it's like people
calling this is another this is a tangent. But Jalen
Carter never gets the holding calls. Do you know one
reason why Jalen Carter doesn't get the holding calls?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
See punches people in the face.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
And the Buffalo line that had to leave the game
after his eye got dounged yesterday and there was no
call for that.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Hey man, less, there ain't nothing wrong with it too,
lest there ain't nothing wrong well, little two biscuits special.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
You know, all like that don't get calls. You know,
if you're if you're a guy that they think is
bending the rules, you know, it's more of a shrug.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
He's like if Mike Tyson. He's like if Mike Tyson
was a d tackle. At times, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Ryan Swoop. Eagles on paper have tremendous players on offense,
no reason they should be this bad. It's definitely the quarterback.
It's I don't know. Sometimes they are inconsistent and can't
play full four quarters. It's always one half then very bad.
It's not the coaching. Why is hurt so bad? I've
been asking that question for a weeks.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
If it's bad, then how is he good in the
first half? How is he making that incredible throw down
the sideline on the run in the first half but
he's bad in the second half. I don't I don't.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Get that is all on the coaching. None of that's
a lot of it's on the I think again, if
you call two runs in a row as they did
four straight series, don't gain yardage and depend on the
quarterback to bail you out in third and long against
the best pass defense in the league. I don't think
that's a quarterback problem. I really don't. Maybe I'm wrong,
(35:25):
but I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
If you listen to any like people who are breaking
down film or watching the Eagles game like they'll they'll
they'll pretty much tell you whether or not the quarterback
played bad or what they're seeing on there. The major
factor of what they see on a week out and
week out, weekend and week out basis is the scheming
makes no sense. The routes they're having them put together
(35:47):
are insane. The play calls, they can't determine who's going
to be open, who's the read is supposed to be,
and they can tell that, how the hell is the
quarterback supposed to look at this? And you're like, well,
you know all this, I got it.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
It's somewhere, yeah, I And the other thing is, you
know they with Hurts they get to the line, and
it's not Hurts his fault that the play isn't coming in,
so he can't switch to an audible when he gets
to the line with five.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Seconds left exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Uh, it's uh, it's it's I mean, I'm sure there's
some element of hurts. Would they be a better team
if you know, if if Matthew Stafford was the quarterback,
quite probably. Yeah, but it hurts a huge problem for them. No,
I'm sorry he isn't.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
It's his play call, man, it's the play call. It's
it's the stuff they're putting out there. It's the lack
of creativity. It's thee Yeah, the offensive line, the conservative nature,
like it's just it's killing them. And the quarterback so
clearly wants to just break out and just do what
he wants to do. But next Nick is just hand
(37:07):
tying them in the in the second half. You can
tell in these games where his whole concept is, well,
we're just gonna run it out. We're just gonna run out. Okay,
it's third and long jail and I guess you can
throw We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Man happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, in the seven plays, Yeah, I think four or
five were throwaways. One was the Davante and like one
was there at the two yard line he had to
run and throw throw it away. Like no, like there
may have been one real concept that they throwed that
he threw that meant something and it was I think
(37:44):
it was like a Dallas dollar drop.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, tough ones.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
What do we think of the head coach? Uh back
to his uh flamboyant bravado after he did a very
poor job of coaching the team.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's not even the fact that he did it. That
is a little freaking stooge did it with him?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Who's his stude Kevin Patoul He's right there if you
watch it, he's right next to him, like yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, Evan Patula being jacked.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Up is I don't get it. I don't get what
Sirianni gets from that. I don't see how you can
be in that mode after.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
That, I'm last. He can't help it.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You survive because one of the best quarterbacks in the
league misses a throw for a two point conversion and you're.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Did you see a brown?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
He's rolling his eyes. He's just like what I he's
backed the Syrian. He's backed himself into a corner with
his antics like this, because the second he stops winning,
he's going to be out of here. Yeah, because this stuff,
this stuff is all cool and good when you're winning, yes,
(39:09):
but when you lose, like if they come out next
year and they go seven to ten for whatever reason,
you're going to be on the chopping block because your
your antics are going to be old and tired. I
think you'd get a two year leash, like if they
came out and they lost last year. I don't think
he's a very good coach.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I disagree. I think he's a good coach.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
You keep winning somehow. I don't know, Uh, he's.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Good because they win all these games, and it seems
like the quarterback and the head coach, which are supposed
to be the lynch pins of your organization, have very
little to do with it.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I disagree with that statement.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I don't know, I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I think they play very Kevin Batulo and Nick Sirian
I mean, I don't hate, yeah, I hate. Can not
hold Jalen Hurts responsible at all for the poor offensive play.
I disassure with that play.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Hurt a little bit responsible. I don't think it's his.
I don't think it's a problem with him necessarily. I
don't think he's the best. You know, you could find
four or five quarterbacks probably better than than Jalen Hurts certainly.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
But.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Is he really the root of their problems? No, I
certainly don't.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Don't think he's done much to help. I don't think
he's had a very good season.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Who's helping with the garbage they're throwing out there with
the offensive line not being able.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Jalen Hurts makes fifty million dollars a year, people, I
guess what's to overcome A little bit?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, Yeah, I kind of felt like if he could
have gotten a few first downs with his legs yesterday,
that would have that would have loosened things. I don't
think they wanted him to I think what we were
talking about about the Rams or leer about the Rams
playing the Falcons tonight, I think you saw a little
(41:04):
bit of that with the Eagles yesterday. Frankly, I don't
think they wanted Hurts to do anything that would you know,
two to three seed. You know, it's not that you
don't need to lose your quarterback over that, and I
can understand that. But it was infuriating to watch. It
really was.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It was just head scratching, yeah, because they just everything
that worked and everything that was cooking in the first half,
they just went away with it and they want pure
Turtle mode. In my opinion, turtle just going right and
it shall and just playing scared and playing play to
win games.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
They play not to lose. Yes, yeah, problem frustrating because
they have they have the personnel to be killers.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yes, yes, yes that is the case.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yes, but this is also the problem is oh Jesus, yeah,
going on here?
Speaker 3 (42:00):
No what I can't I can't, Ryan, hang on, buddy,
uh do.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
O t bird go find these mystical quarterbacks that are
easy to find, so easy to find a quarterback that
can win a Super Bowl that every other team decides
not to. I don't understand the point of your.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
The point is if every other quarterback is and.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
He doesn't like that I just said something bad about Jalen.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
You you can say something bad Jalen like there's nothing
wrong with that, Like you're not his highest fan right now.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Okay, he's had way more horrendous games than good games
this season.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I don't know about that. I think he's been I
think he had the first half of the season. I
thought he was just fine.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Uh and.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Be just fine.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well, you pay them to win to win won year
a super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Another one. I'm sick of hearing about up the Super
Bowl last year. He's thick of it this year the
rest of your life. Because you won the super Bowl
last year. Great news, Great news.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
He's gonna He's going leading this team to the playoffs
for five straight years.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I play pretty well. They don't run an offense where
the quarterback is going to throw for four hundred yards
or anything. You know he's not going to do. They
won games, and he was efficient the first half of
the season, and I think that's what they look for.
It would be wonderful if it was more than that,
but that's the offense that they run, and I don't
(43:39):
think it was his fault. A lot of those games
he was completing like twenty one out of twenty five
passes or something. What else is there than that. I
now after the when they hit that losing streak, he
really things went bad. He was not good, especially obviously
the San Diego the Chargers game. But I don't think
(44:04):
he's been horrendous all season or anything like that. I
think he's been okay ish, not nearly as good as
you'd like for him to be.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
He has not lived up to my expectations this season.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I can go along with that sure. Yeah, and the
Rams are down twenty one nothing.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
At the Yeah, so they clearly just don't They're just
mailing it in on the road, which is fine whatever.
I don't think they can have it up here nine
six and one, So the lowest they can be is
the sixth seed.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Maybe they're trying to maneuver into a set into playing
the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Care for what you wish for you, you just might
get it. I know I'm kidding, but they say, well,
the Niners and the Seahawks are going to play for
the division and the one seed on Saturday night, right,
go Niners. I'd rather play the Seahawks than the Niners.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah. I want to avoid brock Party and the Niners
for as long as I possibly can. I don't want
any parts of them right now.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah. And if they get the one seed, their home
all the way and in the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
And in the super Bowl, Yes, super Bowl obviously in
Levi Stadium, ount in San Francisco. The Bears are a
good team, But I'm not scared of the Bears.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, like they beat up on us, but I just
think there was a really bad stretch for this team
and also came up as much as I think of him,
I think very highly of him. Clearly not a bust,
but he's never played in the playoffs. He's never been
in that environment before, and he's not.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Quite there yet. There was a good point made on
that broadcast last night about he made some incredible plays
and he missed some some real basic throats. Yeah, I
mean he.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Missed the wide DJ Moore was in, don't.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
I don't think he saw him, like, Like, that's a
huge issue. If he was on the left hand side
and Cable missed him, that's one. That's one thing, but
like he wasn't in his line of vision in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
But their defense really got mauled by the forty nine
ers and they lost to people I think.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, I mean honestly, even looking in the AFC, like
I think, if you exclude the NFC South, you can
put thirteen teams in the hat and pull one out
and you can make an argument for all of them
that they're going to win it all. Yeah, there's no
clear favorite in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Which is why if this is Josh Allen's the year
and he doesn't make a super Bowl when in a
year without Joe Burrow, without Patrick Mahomes most likely without
Lamar Jackson is inexcusable.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah. I don't think their oad line is good enough,
and I don't really think their defense is good enough.
Despite what the Eagles did yesterday. The Bills they're good,
but I don't. I'd be kind of surprised if they
made the super Bowl. Frankly, after watching them for sixty
minutes yesterday.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
I agree. Are closing thoughts heading into the Commander's game
or big picture whatever you want to do. P Y.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Tanner time baby.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah, hopefully he does good and they can trade him
in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
God bless Oh what's that you want? The first round pick?
Come on down?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, maybe someone will overpay for him. He's taking into college.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
As a rocket. Please give me a first Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
My closing thought is that I was just tremendously disappointed
yesterday because the two games leading up to yesterday, you
could sort of fool yourself into thinking the offense had
found some consistency and some rhythm. They were doing some things,
as we've all mentioned, you know, the under center empty
(48:09):
things like that play action boots, and they sort of
did a little of it yesterday, and then they stopped
and you saw them be the team that they've been
all year, which is just you know, inviting catastrophe. And
if you invite catastrophe in the in the playoffs, it's
likely to show up. It doesn't miss many invitations. And
(48:32):
I just found it incredibly disheartening the way they ended
that game offensively obviously not talking unless I.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Mean going back to the pole question. In my experience
watching sports, and I watched these teams with a fine
tooth comb that Eagles and the Phillies especially, your flaws
don't get fixed when the lights turn get turned on
the brightest, they get put under a microsop and get worse. Yeah,
look at the Phillies, everyone, they go on these cold
(49:02):
spells and then everyone just says Wolves they have to
do is just hit a bunch of home runs and
in October and they're gonna win hot.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
It doesn't work like that, right, it gets worse. You're
your Yeah, your flaws get exacerbated, not fixed.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
The only straw to grasp there is Lane Johnson. And
it's probably not enough to me to get this team
back to the super Bowl, but we'll see.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
All right, Well that'll do it for Eagles. Talk for
Peter Young Les Bowen, I'm Rob Brinkman. We will have
a time and a place for the Eagles wild Card
playoff matchup next Monday, so stay tuned for that until then,
Peace out, everybody
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Happy New Year.
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