October 21, 2025 • 62 mins
Jalen Hurts Goes OFF with a dominant performance as the Philadelphia Eagles bounce back with a crucial victory over the Minnesota Vikings! In this week’s episode of Eagles Talk, we break down how the Eagles got their offense back on track, led by an incredible showing from Hurts, AJ Brown, and DeVonta Smith. Did the Eagles’ offense officially turn the corner? Let us know your thoughts in the comments!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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to be back. Brinks, how you doing, How you're feeling, bro?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We're doing good. I had to be the voice of
reason last week and your in, your in your absence
and and everything is good, a nice, nice win on
the road. They can't run the ball, which baffles me,
but I guess we'll talk about that as the show progresses.
But Jalen's master before yesterday, and everything is is all good.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Everything is everything is I wouldn't say all good, but
it's it's looking up again, like there's reason for hope.
So yeah, I definitely, I definitely feel like there's more
positive vibes that we can go off of moving forward,
So we'll get into why that is and and all
that pe Why is is a maybe he's a fifty
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to fifty to join us today, but less as usual.
We'll be joining us in a bit. But let's get
right into it. Let's let's start with our poll question
of the evening. As always, this was Jalen Hurt's best
regular season performance of his career so far. Agree or disagree?
It's an interesting one because, like, like right coming off
of this, that's knowing that this was you know, he
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had a he had a perfect pass rating in this game,
and this was a Brian Flores defense, which is which
has been one of the better defenses for years now.
So this was no short tast This was a difficult
challenge for Gilan Hurts, and he's he came through with
flying colors, no pun intended. But what do you think,
(02:26):
like if you're looking back and I'm trying to look
back at all the other regular season games that Hurts
has played amazing at, but what do you think do
you think this is this was his best one yet?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I'll say yes, I mean he played really good in
the Pittsburgh game last year. He's obviously he's been money
in the playoffs. But that's not that's not the pole question.
I'll say, yes, perhaps there's some recency biased because it
just happened yesterday and the team was on a two
game skid, and it wasn't no vibes, no sexiness at
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all in that two game said skid. They looked pretty
much dead in the water, and they needed a good
performance yesterday in Minnesota, and they got it and and
Jalen Hurts stepped to the head of the line and delivered.
The deep ball was there, the intermediate routes were there,
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the short routes were there. Everything was there. So they
really needed this game because five and two sounds a
whole heck of a lot better than four and three.
And if you're four and three with third game, like
losing three in a row to make you four and three,
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the patience that I exhibited last week probably wouldn't have
shown up tonight. But I mean, it starts with the quarterback.
It starts with number one. That's Jalen Hurts, and he delivered,
So I'll agree to the poll. He's obviously had some
other good ones, but they need they needed that yesterday.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, they absolutely did. I'm trying to think
of So I'm going through like all the other regular
season games since, like you know, I guess we can
start at twenty twenty two, because I was like his
coming out party, right, Uh, So I was trying to
look at, you know, all the other ones that he
had since then. The only other one that I think
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like could come that comes to mind that I'd say
is is right there, And it's hard to hard to
decide between the two is ironically the other game against
the Vikings in twenty twenty two. Yeah, twenty twenty two
on Monday Night football. It's that one because that game
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was like his coming out party, like his hey I'm here,
I'm him, this is I am I'm ready to now
be the just to establish myself as the franchise quarterback
of the Eagle and as one of one of the
better quarterbacks in the league. And like we he was
on fire that game, both on the ground and through
the air. So that game was the other one I
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thought of immediately. And you mentioned the Steelers game in
twenty twenty three, there was the one in there was
the Bills game that went overtime, was really really good.
One came up late. So it's it really. There are
definitely some to mention and to consider, but I think
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that if I'm going to look at it, I will
say this one. I'll agree to the poll and say
this was his best regular season game of his career
so far. And the reason why I say that, And
you know, I'm gonna get into the details of it
on film Don't Lie on Wednesday morning with Pete as
we were going to dive into the film and we'll
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show exactly what I'm talking about. But there are things
that when it comes to Jalen Hurts, I've wanted to
see him improve on. I think we talked about it
right on this show as we were going into the
regular season. We talked about it in the preseason, you know,
like we do. We want Jalen hurt to improve and
I think me and you and and Pete kind of
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got kind of people. I got into it a little
bit and I was but I was saying, how like, yeah,
I want to see him do a better job of
throwing downfield when he scrambles out outside the pocket. And
I also want to see him throw to the middle
of the field better, right because he hardly he doesn't
consistently throw to that area of the field, and the
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middle of the field is really crucial in today's game
in terms of being able to access it and really
be able to attack defenses. And in this game, there
were several plays where he did just that, and you
see his you see the fact that he is actually
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able to do these things. And if he can do
this now consistently, almost weekend and week out, this is
a he will enter and get to another level of
his game that we haven't previously seen yet. And I
wouldn't put it past him to be able to write.
I wouldn't put it past Jalen Hurt says outside of
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twenty twenty three, every season he's gotten better as a quarterback,
you know, And it's it's very tough to say because
he when it comes to player development, we know that
progression isn't linear, right. It's you know, some players they'll
they'll maybe hit like a good incline and then the
plateau a little bit made for a year or two
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and then incline again. So like there's that maybe guys
will start their career is really really bad, hit a
plateau and won't see any improvement, and then your three
year you're forced for some reason, they'll they'll see an improvement.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Quinn Johnson's is an example of that. Right, quin Johnson
was so bad for years, but now he's legitimate, like
one of the better UH wide receivers on that you
could argue like maybe he is the best wide receiver
right now on the Charger. So it's it's really fun
to be able to watch and see Jalen Hurts make
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these improvements. And I think that if he continues to
do these things, it's gonna be great. And so I
I loved it because you have those aspects, and then
from a mental aspect, he is just obviously with it
with this being you know, uh he's now a season
VET and Super Bowl MVP. He's so much smarter now
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than he was even before his His his intellect and
the mental side of the game is just continuing to improve.
So I really am looking forward to what we can
continue to see from him. And you know, from from
this offense, how how it's going to be molded moving forward.
Uh So I like we we What did you if
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you were to pick out one part of this game
against the Vikings that stood out to you the most
about Hurts? What what would you say so that the.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Most Uh, it started fast. I mean, what was it
the first drive he threw it right to Aj on
the on the deep ball. Yeah, I mean they started
fast and then yeah, I would say the first one
to Aj because you get Aj off off right, you
get him to shut his mouth and Jalen hurts. I mean,
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he missed a bad deep ball against the Giants, so
and he's good at that, so that's surprising. So you
start the game off against the good defense on the road,
you set the tone, and you got Aj his touchdown early,
get that distraction out of the way, and really it's
set the tone for uh, the entire game. And he
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did a lot of this from the pocket as well.
He didn't really light the world on fire in terms
of running like he's capable of. So that was also
good to see that he was able to. I mean,
obviously he moved the pocket a little bit with his
legs because he can help if you not do that,
if you're capable of doing that. But this was this
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was a as good a throwing performance as I've seen
this season. I mean, perfect quarterback rating, but starting fast
after two games skid like that, that was that was
really important.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, a fast start. I mean, like we've seen him
come up to fast starts at certain games this year
and then like kind of slow down, and that's kind
of worried me. Yeah, because they after that first drive,
they had like four straight possessions after that where it
was just like three now three an hour, like you
know that that one possession before the half. So that
didn't worry me, but like he was able to he
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was able to kind of like get things going again
in the second half, which is really good. But yeah,
I think that you know, I mentioned the stuff I
had mentioned before, and it was really good to really
good to see him be able to still get the
offense going even with the stuff they had in the
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first half. And I think that's that's a good resilience
by him, especially in the second half. They didn't run
the ball well, you know, they like they were having
success in the first half and then second half just
it just went away. So I yeah, I think that
it was good, good perseverance by them and the offense
as a whole. And well, we'll see how it goes forward.
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Let's get to the comments and get some of these,
get some of the chat going. Egos on set and
as agree, hurt since had plenty of good games in
the regular season, would asked to pass a bunch, but
this was his first Super Bowl play in a regular season,
which was nice to see. Uh should see here. Mike
marsh says, go birds. He also says the Minnesota game
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in twenty two monay in football, isn't no stand that
I remember? Yeah, so same thing, same thing that I
had said it was, wasn't coming up party. Yeah, Tennessee
the tennis game against Tennessee in twenty twenty two as well,
although like for obvious reasons, I remember that game more
so for a j. Brown, but absolutely like Jalen Hurts
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obviously had a great game that that game as well,
Yeah he had. Mike Marshall also says he said no
running game this year to help either. Yeah, that's another thing,
like no no running game to fall back on. But
he's able to to really he's he was able to
really operate independent of a running game success. So that's
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that's great to see. Jesse Davis says, passing game isn't
that different from last year. We ran a ton of
go come back and post rites and shotgun. We're just
missing two thousand yards rushing. I remember we we would
get fourteen yards and turn and eleven. Yeah, that the
explosive runs are a big, big, big like that. They're
handcuffing the offense right now, and they're they're struggling to
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find any type of momentum without that. But if they
can do the things that they did against the Vikings,
that will go a long way. And it will also help,
in turn, help the running game get going too, because
now teams won't be able to load the box as often,
which will help, you know, open things up. So he
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goes such as his ability to spread the ball eagerly
and do it on time. Yeah, that's that was a
big plus. I mean it was both a j. Brown
and and DeVante Smith that that got going. So amazing job,
amazing stuff by them, and it was I. I liked
it a lot. I liked what I really really liked
what I saw from Jalen Hurts. Just bring in our friend,
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our good friend less bowen Less. How are you haven't
seen you in your food in a few weeks because
I've out but no, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, I'm great, chucks, how are you guys?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
We're really really good, really good. So let's ask you
the same pole question. Both Rob and I agreed, But
what do you think was this Jalen Hurts? Was this
his best regular season performance of his career so far?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You know, I would say so. The thing that struck
me was the not just the stats, but the clutch throws.
They had so many times they had nothing going on
on first or second down, a few times even on
third down, and he just found a way to get
it downfield and get them a long you know, third
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down conversion, fourth down conversion. That's very, very difficult. You know,
I just don't. I haven't seen much of that from anybody.
In fact, I was realizing after the game when they
said there were only three one fifty eight point three
perfect passer rating performances in Eagles history. I was realizing
I covered the first two. I'm kind of forgotten that
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that was the deal. But it was McNabb in two
thousand and seven against the Lions and then the Nick
Foles seven touchdown game at Oakland, and even those two games,
like seven touchdowns is seven touchdowns, but Nick was throwing
to guys that were just running wide open down the field.
(15:28):
There weren't a lot of it was a blowout when
there weren't a lot of you know, he wasn't saving
the team's bacon every every three or four series. Yeah,
I just thought it was really he was. He and
the receivers were the only thing that was working for
the for the Eagles offense yesterday. And I think that
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makes it, to me, his best regular season performance because
he kind of had to put the team on his shoulders.
People talk about that a lot, but I think we
actually saw it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, and I alluded to it before you You had
Tom on that he didn't have a running game to
kind of not fall back on, but to help him, right, So,
like he's literally just doing it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
The running game made it harder, made it second twelve,
you know. I mean, geez, Louis, I don't want to
get off topic, but I can't understand why they can't
fix this.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's it's a multitude of things, and I keep saying,
like I keep seeing people online, you know, try to
pinpoint one thing and say, oh, it's it's the offensive line,
it's their their execution and how bad enough they be,
And then other people say, no, it's it's a play calling,
it's Kevin Patula, like it's you know, if you're gonna
really be honest, it's it's both. It's not just one thing.
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You know that injuries to Dickerson and then your jiggin's
not running, not not being as good as he was,
and then uh Steve not being the mall er that
uh Beck team was, that's gonna that's gonna hamper it.
And then obviously the you also have the Kevin Pillow
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factor and then the play Caong factor that it's it
doesn't help when it's predictable, and it doesn't help when
you keep calling run concepts that don't help out your
struggling offensive linemen.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So you know, yeah, the offensive linemen they're not executing.
But if I think we talked about it weeks ago,
I forget which game it was against the Bucks, if
they can if this, if the defense can have seven
or eight in the box and just tee off right
off the snap because we know you're gonna run it.
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I mean, it doesn't matter how many blockers you are,
how good the block the blockers are going to execute
their blocks. They're they're going they're not gonna be outnumbered. So, like,
you know, those things factor in. So it's a bunch
of a bunch of stuff. But you know, I I
have you know, I watched the film today and I'll
definitely have like more detail about it. Me and Pete
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we'll talk about on film Don't Live, which again it
comes out on Wednesday morning, so catch us on Wednesday
morning to do you know the film deep dive of
this game. But the Passing Game did definitely a lot
of things they did, especially when it comes to under
center play action. They introduced that concept that was like
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a point of emphasis this game. So it was really
good to see, hey, like they're actually doing new things.
So I liked a lot of what I saw from
the Passing Game, specifically in the second half. But I'll
pose this question to you guys now, So considering that
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the run games still can't get going, do you see
this still as the like the offensive offenses like the
situation there are now, do you see has glass half empty?
As in like you're still concerned and you're afraid this
offense can appear, you know, a half at a time
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on any given week, or do you think it's half full?
That they're improving and you expect these things to continue
to get better. So let's start with you half full
or half empty.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Definitely half full. Like teams don't care that Jalen Hurts
is throwing the ball better than he ever has. They're
still loading the box. They're not letting the Eagles beat
them on the ground. That's just the way. I don't
know what you do about that, because if it's eight
against five, it doesn't matter if you have all pros
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in every line position. It's math. It's just not yep,
it's not gonna work out. So I mean, until these
teams start respecting Jalen more and not loading a box
against our game, I think it's gonna be gonna be
more of the same. I mean, look, the Saquon Barkley
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stink now, No, Like, can they not run the ball
because Makai Beckton is playing for a different team. Now,
I don't think that's the case. They should be able
to be fine with Tyler Steen in there, even though
he's not as good as Makai Beckton. Dickerson's been hurt Jurgens.
I know he has herjery in the offseason. Maybe he's
not all the way there yet because he's not my
lot is not playing as well as he did last year.
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Why why is this Lane? Johnson has missed portions of games,
So I don't know. Maybe they need a bye week.
I don't know. I don't know. But they're five and
two and they haven't played sixty anywhere close to sixty
minutes of good football. They haven't played a full game.
And this is not a hollow five and two record.
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Like they didn't play the Jets, they didn't play the Browns,
they didn't play the Dolphins. They've all the these teams
that I watch on ESPN and all the analysts on
there on NFL Network in ESPN, that's say this team's good,
this team's good, this team is clearly contender. They all
have one thing in common. They've all lost to the
Philadelphia Eagles, Tampa Rams, Chiefs. Uh, they dropped. They dropped
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the game to Denver, which they should have won. They're
up fourteen with whatever in the fourth quarter. They should
have won that game, but they didn't. I mean, Dallas
scores forty points a game, but not when they're playing
the Eagles. It definitely definitely have full Yeah, that's what
do you think? Boy?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
That's really well said. Rob. I agree pretty much. I
am maybe a little more concerned that they just can't
get this going. I know the I understand about the
eight in the box. The Vikings, though, were one of
the worst run stopping teams in the league, and you
just didn't any sense that after those first three runs
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of the game that the Eagles could gain a yard
other than Tush pushing. It does concern me, but I'll
go along with Halful. I understand what you're saying, and
I think we really are gonna have to see them
throw the ball down the field to loosen this up.
I mean, and do it really, really well the way
they did it yesterday. And I don't know how you
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get some offensive rhythm. I don't think you can do
it exactly like you did it yesterday. What I was
saying earlier about you know, you're not gonna get third
and thirteen completions, you know out the wazoo. That's just
not the way to play football. But they're gonna have
to find a way without a dominant running game to
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get some some rhythm in the offense. And you know,
not be asking Jalen to perform miracles, but they basically, yes,
I think they're basically okay. I just want to see, Yeah,
you mentioned the play action yesterday, the under center stuff.
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Let's let's do some more you know, innovating and get
give the teams some more things that maybe they weren't expecting.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, and you know, and and it's fine that we
still didn't see like a ton of new things and
like a ton of improvement because like we knew, like
it's not going to be like overnight, you know, an
overnight kind of overhaul, like you have to see progressively.
So I thought this was a step in the right direction. Uh,
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in terms of the running game, Like we had success
in the first half obviously, and it's just specifically that
first drive, I think tok being in there for Jurggins
really did affect it because you're looking at there are
several players we're top of just getting no push. He
was getting pushed back. So I think tough in there
at center really derailed a bunch of those runs. And
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it's it's so unfortunate because like you talk about, like
you know, in that's my I think my Lotta said
it before that on a good amount of these runs,
they're just one block away, and you could absolutely see
that there were there were plays where it's it's just
it's just one block, but oftentimes against the Vikings it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Was tough and right, well, you mentioned start getting that
block though, because I'm sick of hearing that for too much.
They're one block away from busted.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Like okay, no, I hear you. My point is, My
point is I would I would be very critical if
I was if it was consistently one of the starters
missing these blocks. And we've been critical, right Jurgens, We've
said we've been critical of them. We talked about Dickerson
not being healthy and playing well. We mentioned my lot
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of what I'm saying is it's tough, so like you,
no offense to tot but he's he's he's a reserve
for a reason. Yeah, so I can't. I can't be
mad at him necessarily for being a backup center who
had to play most of the game. It is the
situation that it is yesterday. But yeah, in general, they
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if it's one of these starters, they have to start
making these blocks.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Was it you, Chucks or someone else on social media
who pointed out that to second snap they had had
a run that required him to reach out to a
defensive tackle who was like, you know, it was like
a really difficult.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
It wasn't me, but I did see that.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yes, you know, I mean what.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
It's I think that this offense has gotten used to
having guys like Kelsey and Jurgis who who can execute
they're athletic enough to execute those types of reach blocks often,
but not.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Know what just happened. You know, he's got in there.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's it's it's tough. It's it's very very tough, and
like it's this is I'm not trying to give him
a pass, but I can understand what I'm saying. Like yesterday,
just specifically yesterday, I can kind of understand why the
run game kind of got derailed because they did call
more tosses and I've been saying, you know, for weeks now,
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run it more to the outside, running more to the outside,
and they did with them going under center a lot,
they did run a good amount of toss plays. So
I am not I can't. I can't go back and
criticize them when they did what I was saying. The
issue with that now, with with having taught in there,
is that he can't execute those He's not athletic enough
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to execute those blocks. So it's just like damned if
you do, damned if you don't kind of thing. And
so that's why I like, I can kind of understand
yesterday the run game kind of falling off after the
first possession, but you know, thank god, the passing game
picked it up. So you know, I do think it's
going at some point, and I'm praying it's against the
Giants on Sunday, you know, can get his kind of
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like his his get back at them, but it I
I do think at some point it's gonna be, it's
gonna click.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Dickerson yesterday looked looked actually the besties look all year,
So like that's good thing. That's a good sign that, hey,
Dickerson came back and he started to look pretty good.
It's just so unfortunate Jurgens was was out. So it
is what it is and hopefully Durgons is back next
week and it's not too bad of an injury. Anything
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else that you guys, because I did want to flip
over to the defensive side, uh and and touch on
the breaking news kind of from the day or two.
But did you did you guys have anything else on
the offensive tea?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah? Did you see the little creative way that Brian
Flores tried to stop the toast.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, yeah, so I don't think he was the first
one to do I feel like someone else did that.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Really sideways business.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, I got sworn last year almost work a team
they did that for what I think it was like
one play A team tried to do this. Why do
I feel like it was the Chiefs. I don't know,
but I again.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Like I I think that leaves you wide open. I'm
not any kind of great maven of these things. But
then you just don't have to run it in there,
you can, you know, I mean you're giving away a player. Basically,
you're playing eleven on ten at that point. I'm not
sure that's gonna really.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, you don't have to worry about it past the season.
They're gonna ban it in the off season.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, although you did. If you watch the forty nine
ers last night, Christian McCaffrey scores a touchdown where the
guard gets into the end zone, McCaffrey's stopped, Yeah, and
the guard just grabs him and pulls him.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
In that that I think, Yah, Yeah, you can't do that. Yep,
you do that. I forget who the On Sunday Night
Football forget who the the the like the official, the
official that that they tune into I forget, but he
had said that's against the rules. It should have been called,
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so you know, call it, but you know, it's just
really funny. And to just quickly finish the tangent. They're
going to change the rules so that you can't push
players anymore. And the system there are so many other
players outside of the toush push are no longer going
(29:43):
to be able to to be done now because like
we see it almost every Sunday, where stopped and they're
pushing him. You know, they're pushing the pile, and that's
going to go out the window.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So frustrating because like the tush push isn't successful because
I mean, I I guess that's it's a part of
it for sure, but like it's it's not an unstoppable
play for the Philadelphia Eagles because guys the guys behind
are pushing them. Doesn't help probably, but clearly they work
on it from a blocking standpoint, and Jalen Hurts is
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a very very strong in his lower half. I was
watching the Ravens and the Rams a few weeks ago.
The Ravens tried to do three straight push pushes with
their tight end, with their tight end, they didn't.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Get one of them get one. Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So this notion that is that it's not a fair
play and how come everyone can't do it? Then only
the Eagles can do it? And I think did Brady
did it for twenty years?
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah? He did a state. That's why I think Rob
I am not like, I'm done like being so mad
about wanting a band because after they've been and I
still think the Eagles are going to have very conversion
rates still maybe not like as high as now, but
it's still gonna be higher than most teams because they
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still can operate a sneak very very very well. Like,
so I'm not worried about it, and it's gonna be
funny seeing us still be successful on these QB sneaks
and the like. The league can't do anything about it
because the touch versus band, so now, like you know,
you handcuff yourself even more so, I just I'm done
trying to be mad about it. Just ban it, and
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it's not gonna really affect us that much. I really
don't think so. But so flipping over to the defensive side, right,
let's lead it off of this the big news, all right,
and I have my two cents on this, but I'll
let you guys go first. Uh you know BG, I
think we had a comment urn here. Yeah, Chrome, Hey,
(31:53):
what's up? BG is back? Yes, he's expected to sign
come out of retirement and sign back and come back.
So yeah, just your thoughts, guys. Yeah, let's start with you. Well,
what your your initial reactions to.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
First, a sort of ephemeral, tangential thing. B G being
all about business is going to announce this on his
pH l Y podcast tomorrow. Is hilarious, like he doesn't
have enough money, you know, he wants to make sure
the podcast doesn't. But my only concern here, I mean,
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I think it's a good It can't hurt, right, what
could it hurt? What could it hurt having Brandon Graham,
even if he's just there to lead and boost morale
and places five snaps a game, it can't hurt anything.
My concern is that people are going to get too
caught up in this and to expect too much of it.
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You know, this is a third seven year old man
who's had two bad muscle tears in the last year.
He's not gonna transform their pass rush or anything. He
might set the edge a little better than Jahad Campbell
did yesterday. But you know, hilarious to me, by the way,
I'll go off on another tangent. They vic can't use
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Bryce Huff because he couldn't set the edge. Well, now
he's got Jehad Campbell out there, who's basically Bryce Huff
as a pass rusher, you know. And but anyway, and
Bryce Huff is although he's hurt, now Bryce Huf's sacking
people for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Well, uh, BG is not gonna he's not gonna play
forty snaps a game. He's not gonna get a bunch
of sacks and change everything for the defense.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
If he it might take a few weeks. It'll probably
be after the bye when he actually plays, I guess.
And if he gets ten snaps and they look decent,
that'll be great as far as I'm concerned. But the
real they need help, though, and the help is going
to have to come from somewhere else, which I guess
is my bottom line. This isn't this is an emergency move.
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It's to stop. This is a tourniquet. It's not a cure.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
To talk about. Yeah, yeah, brings your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I mean, like I kind of agree with less. I mean,
Zadarius Smith really put them through a curveball. Yes, loss,
yet picking up and and just just leaving. And he
was being effective too.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yes, and no one understands what the hell happened there,
But go ahead, Robin.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I mean it would be good for the locker room.
It's gonna be like everybody likes him. He wasn't He
retired because he was old and just felt like it
was time to time to move on. Like he wasn't
a bad player last year he suffered injury and and
came back, but and I guess to just preserve his
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life post football, decided to hang it up. But from
a production standpoint, he was still a serviceable NFL player.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
The game he got hurt on he got injured at
he was tearing it up. It was the Rams game,
remember like he was that was his best game of
the year. I forget if he had multiple sacks, but
he definitely was like on fire that game and then
he got hurt.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
So yeah, but continue, But yeah, I mean I ain't
something I would still be exploring the trademarket ahead of
the deadline is coming up, I believe November four. November four,
thank you. This is yeah, like this is not You
need beg to give you some competence snaps, and you
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probably need to get really a body in here because
Chid Campbell, like you said, didn't work out on the edge.
He can't. He can't set the edge in the NFL.
He's he's a linebacker. So those pipe dreams that that
people like myself had that he could maybe help out
when Nakobe d which Nikobe Dan is back now, so
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that's probably why they tried it like that. They tried it. Cool,
thank you, but no, you can.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Do it on third and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But yeah, yeah, exact spots.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
But yeah, I mean Nolan Smith will be back, which
is good. He'll be back for the Packers. He's eligible
to come back for the Packers game after the bye,
so that's another potential reinforcement. But I would still be
looking like when you're when your lead socker is Moro Jamo,
(36:47):
a defensive tackle and he only has three Uh, that's
that's that doesn't work. Yeah, yeah, you need you need
someone on the edge that is going to get after
the quarterback and.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
And they seem to lose one every week.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
My god, I know he played well.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Quarterback gets hurt? You know how did he get hurt?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Oh? My god?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, I am in the in the chap Bradley Chubb
from Miami. Yeah, I mean you're going to be selling
at the deadline. That team is horrendous. Yeah, horrendous.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah. We'll get to some trade targets after this. But
the the BG thing, I'm I'm I'm, I'm like, I
have like mixed feelings, you know. I I agree with
everything you guys said from a positive standpoint in terms of, yeah,
he comes back, he's he's not a bad player by
any means, at least like last year he wasn't. Uh
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So you're getting, like, you know, a solid rotational edge
player who can come in and self contribute in some degree,
in some degree as and as a rotation. And I
think that the biggest impact he'll make is the locker
room and everyone knows the type of leader he is
and how he comes in and sets like the vibe
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and the tone, uh for that for that defense. So
I agree with that, I think just from I My
mixed feelings come from the fan standpoint of, you know,
I love BG so much. He's one of my favorite
all time Eagles, Like, how can you not like he's
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he's an icon. I I just loved that he was
able to win the Super Bowl and have like that
kind of like fairy tale sending off. That's that's where
it all comes from. I I love that for him,
and I would hate I just and maybe it's selfish
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as a stand as a fan like one of percent,
I admit that, But like I I think about Jason
Kelsey's last year going to collapse, right, and it breaks
my heart that that it was his last year, that
was that was the last The last we saw Jason
Kelsey was during that collapse, I would hit and I'm
not gonna what I'm not saying and like this season
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is going to collapse. What I'm saying is it's hard
to It's almost impossible to one up a super Bowl
send off, you know, as your your your curtain call,
and it's very hard to to to really one up
on that. And I want that for him, but hey,
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if he if things still pan out, well then yeah,
sure that's I'm glad. It's just I just worry for
him that it's it's not I want a better ending
for him.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
You know, I don't know that I agree with you,
but I don't know that that's what you really remember.
I mean, he's still played in three Super Bowls and
one two. Yeah, I think that's what fifteen years now
people will talk about, not so much. Well, yeah, you
tried to come back that one year, you know, and
then yeah, yeah, I understand exactly what you're saying, and
(40:09):
I agree, and I don't. I'll tell you what I
when I first heard about this a week or so ago,
what I was hearing was that how I wanted this,
and BG was kind.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Of like, oh, really, okay.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
But maybe I heard the wrong. You know, I didn't
hear this directly from BG or anything, but I he
he was. He was pretty happy to be retired. I think,
you know, by the way I did ask Kelsey yesterday.
He said no. He said he's lost so much weight
it would he can't.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Oh oh, you're saying if Kelsey would.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Come back, Yeah, no, I mean it wouldn't do that
at this point, you know, which one didn't really need more.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Uh. With all due respect to Brandon Graham and what
he's doing off the field, like Jason Kelsey is killing
it off the field.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Oh yeah, my god, Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I mean the only one who has a more popular
podcast than the Kelsey Brothers is Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I think, yeah, I guess that they're getting on. Like
I think like a like a couple of weeks ago
that Keanu Reeves. I'm like, oh geez, so yeah, and
so Jason Kelsey is doing fine off off off the field.
Uh yeah, I I it's funny you say that less
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because I mean, this was it just would have been
my my guess, my assumption. I would have thought that
this would have stemmed from BG initiating it. I would
have thought been like IG wants to play. And part
of that is also because because of what Kelsey said
when I was on the pod or forget where else,
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but like he was asked or he he talked about
how BG never really wanted to retire. He was just
kind of told to retire, right, and so well I did.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
I didn't know that he said that, and maybe that's
the case, but I sure thought BG was like that
last year was like maybe you know, I mean, he
didn't he almost retired the year before and he gave
me one year.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, I remember, you know, I kind.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Of thought he was after he got hurt, that he
was pretty at peace with the idea of retiring as
long as he got to play in the super Bowl.
But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I don't, Yeah, who knows, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
I do think from Howie's perspective, it's a no brainer.
It's not going to cost a lot of money. He
knows the defense. He will help to some extent. You know,
he's not gonna not help, you know. I mean, I
think it would be a very easy trigger for Howie
to pull. You know, he's not he didn't have to
get back in shape and get hit all the time.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Uh So, yeah, those are our thoughts
on BG. Let us know, like I know, Greg is well,
Greg is also kind of like a negative Nancy, So
he's like he's out on BEG coming back. It'll help
the long kind of, it'll help the locker room. Sorry,
but that it makes any impact on the field. That
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being said, we can't get any worse on the edge
right now, and it does. Ye, So yeah, so let's
let's let's go into this now. You know, even with
a new I know you allude to, it brings back
but the trade deadline is still coming approaching. I still
(43:42):
I agree with you, guys, I still would like them
to trade for another Edge player. Uh, but let's rather,
are there any names that kind of and it doesn't
have to be Edge. I'm just like in general now, like,
are there any names out there that you kind of
that's kind of on your wish of who you want
the egos to target? So Brings, we'll start with you.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I mean, Bradley Chubb is is a good name that
would help. I'm actually looking at an article right now,
m hm. But like, I mean, like, I don't think
anything like Trey Hendrickson or I don't know what the
Raiders plans are with with Max Crosby, but I doubt
(44:29):
he would get dealt So I don't know. But how
he's no. To answer the question, no, I don't have
a specific target in mind. Bradley Chubb seems to be realistic.
He's younger player. Trey Hendrickson is really old. He's at
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the tail end of his career. Uh, Miami stinks and
that might be like so that I guess that, and
I would put Edge Rush as the top priority. I
know a lot of people have concerns with cornerback, but
I think they can skate by as long as quinny
On Mitchell continues to be elite with with a subpar
(45:14):
second corner and who played a lot outside, Cooper Gen
played outside at least some. Yesterday he broke out a
nice breakup on Justin Jefferson in the end zone. I
think that if they don't do anything at corner, it
will be fine. But if you get if you're getting
pass rush like that makes your secondary look a lot better. Right, Yeah,
(45:38):
I guess Bradley Chubb would be my target. I mean,
if you want to swing for Max Crlsby makes a
lot of money as well, So I don't know how
that would fit with the cap and things like that. Obviously,
that's a that's a big time name and would obviously
help thirty one other teams because he doesn't seem to
be helping the Raiders win any games. That's for sure.
(46:01):
They stink too. It's always the same teams that just
stink every year.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Often is yes, okay, sorry, no.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
That they're gonna have to do something. They got to
get a body. Yeah, at least you need to have
active players that play defensive line.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
M HM.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
So they have to do something.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, but LUs, what do you think any names to you?
Speaker 4 (46:30):
I would look for guys that have played for Fangio
in the past. Uh, Jubb is obviously right at the
top of that list. But I don't know. I didn't
I didn't know where we're going to do this and
really prepare a list. I know I was reading a
thing Jimmy Kemsky wrote about and this isn't the guy
who's played for for Fangio, but there was a guy
(46:51):
with the Falcons who's been displaced by the people they
brought in Arnold last name a Ka Titty or whatever.
How do you pronounce that?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
I don't know, But it's like, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
But he's not gonna. He's not gonna set the world
on fire. But he's a live body who with a young,
live body who's you know, maybe they would like to
get something for him. I guess his contract is gonna
be up this year. Yeah, and uh, you know that's
worth checking in on. I guess. I mean, I don't
know that you're gonna be able to make some huge,
(47:31):
splashy move that's gonna solve everything. That's not the way
it typically goes. Once in a while you get a
J and ji to trade deadline, but a lot of times,
you know, a lot of times you just have to
take somebody who might be a little bit of help
here and there and hope for the best.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, it's pronounced abokadie. I always like, I always am
tempted to put like a different pronouncation on that one e,
but ab acadie, you do that, like he would be
lower on my list. But like I I understand. I
did read Kemy's article, and he's the one name I
was like, Eh, probably like the least interested in. But
(48:13):
I can't, I can't under so I have, so I
did agree someone like I'm kind of like lukewarm on
the Cam Taylor brit suggestion if you're gonna go corner,
I'm lukewarm on that. It's not really he's not really
the fangio type, so he's not physical and tackler and
(48:34):
all that. But I mean, like, you're you're getting desperate
here if you're if you're looking at corner, like if
you're not happy with it's not like Ringo or Dorry
Jackson or great tacklers either, So you know you're kind
of like you're you're you're nippicking or you're you're trying
to really just get someone else, you know, I mean
looking at Corner, I still am holding out hope on Ja,
(48:59):
Cory and Bennett. So yeah, when they go back, I
still think he should be like.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
That's more likely than Corner. That's gonna you know, really,
I think exactly so traded for a guy, they traded
what a fourth rounder for him.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Something like that, the D three pick five, I think, yeah,
so they there's that. But if you're talking about edge
rusher value, shrub is an obvious name, one hundred percent
agree with that. I am looking also at the two
guys on the Jets, the other in Sex team, the
Owen six team, talking about Will McDonald and Jermaine Johnson,
like I would absolutely, yeah, I think either one of them.
(49:37):
I don't again, I don't know how much in sol
mood they are because I know they're trying to still
build something, you know what I mean with with Aaron Glenn,
even though it's not going well on the defensive side. Uh,
but if they are looking at the movie one of them,
I would gladly take either one of them. So those
three edge players are the guys that I kind of
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primarily have my eye on the big names like Tree,
Trey Hendrickson, and Max Crosby. I don't really expect I'm
with you, Like, it's not it's not realistic. I know
everyone wants to say.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Them, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
This article also mentioned Matthew Judan he's on the Dolphins.
He was, Yeah, I can I can see that he
that's that's like the type of guy.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
A few years ago he was one of my favorite players,
but now.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
He got off last year when you remember when he
signed with the Falcons and he just he fell off.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
So yeah, I think you're a healthy scratch for the Dolphins.
That's a lot like, man, you're healthy and can play,
but we can we don't need you.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
That's that's like, that's that's like what you're gonna get
because I don't see him. I don't see Howie giving
up much trade capital at the deadline.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I don't see it either. Yeah, And like Nolan Smith
is coming back, so it's like you have reinforcements coming now.
Was Nolan Smith like playing out of his mind or
anything like that, No, but I mean.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
He was playing pretty well well.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Against and he's not a huge guy, but he.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Exactly exactly because he plays on leverage. Yeah, leverage and
momentum he plays with so like it's it's it's really
really good. Robert Gilchrist to say McDonald's I would say
boy was a beast. Yeah, and then Humper says, uh,
we're getting Nolan Smith back and that's it. Anything else, Uh,
Andrew Baker says we need defensive help. Jen Carter currently
(51:39):
has six solo tackles and zero sacks. I'm not looking
at the sas thing with John Carter. He's getting penetration.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
He's like.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yesterday, I mean, if this was hockey, he would get
the first assist on that.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Interception exactly exactly. And he's constantly if you don't see
now if there's one thing to kind of like nitpick
with him or like criticize him on this year when
he's constantly getting double team, Yeah, there are times where
you can seek him get frustrated and not maybe give
full effort, but like he's constantly getting double team or held.
(52:17):
So like it's you know, it's understandable. I don't think
Carter is playing bad and I'm not judging him on sacks.
So he's getting when he gets one on ones, he's
wrecking games. So yeah, Bumper says, how he's never trying
anything higher than the third. I'm here, Yeah, I'm looking
(52:38):
at the poor safety play reading but have I don't know,
I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
Had a huge mistackle yesterday.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, and he's got a tackle guy. He's not that.
He's not a thumper at safety. He's got ball skills,
he's smaller, he's a rookie.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
When they throw a three yard out to Justin Jefferson,
you can't turn it into a fifty yards, but you
can't tackle the guy.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
And remember, there was another game here where it was
I know, outside of the Giants game because we know
about that mess tackle, but there was another game where
he missed the tackle and went for a big play.
I feel like it was against the Chiefs, but I
don't remember. But like, like, mcuba is a rookie, he's
gonna have moments like this, but he's also had some
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pretty impressive moments. So I pushed back on the Macuba
kind of like thing.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
But what I pushed blankenship hasn't been horrific. I don't
don't an undrafted guy of very limited physical skills, who's
really done well, you know, he's a starting quality NFL safety.
He's not at all pro or anything like that. Yeah,
you know, let's be realistic. I mean, you're not going
(53:55):
to have the best player at every position. There's nothing
wrong with Blankenship. You can win. You know.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
I don't understand it, Like there's there's apparently this sentiment,
this growing sentiment or narrative online of fans saying Blaionship
has been bad. I don't like where he hasn't been bad, Like, okay,
so pep read a seventy eighth rank safety in the NFL.
I'm about to go off. Are you basing this? Please
(54:27):
don't tell me you're basing this off of p f
F grades. Now, please don't tell me. I I am
y'all know how I feel about PFF grades. They please
do not tell me you're trying to base off PFF grades.
Because this is Chris.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
At the bottom of Sunday Night Football. Because they didn't
Chris collins Worth invented.
Speaker 4 (54:48):
No, he didn't invent it. He bought the company, bought.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
The company, the loss of it. Yeah, he is so
Chris Long. Yeah, lest Chris Long. It was the this
person that has criticized.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
P I looking at their quarterback rankings and software they.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
As it's and then I think earlier this year, Steve
Spagnolo called them out during a press conference. Last year,
Saquon called them out during his interview with The Pivot.
There was another J. J. Watt has called them out
several times. It's I again, I like PFF for their
(55:27):
for their stats and their their analytics, the data that
they provide. I think that stuff is awesome that they give,
but when it comes to their grades, it's so bad
and breaks to your point, like what what makes it
even worse is that it's pushed onto us as if
it's gospel. That's that's the other thing I think.
Speaker 4 (55:49):
You know, a lot of the analytics stuff they do
is is factual base. These grades are not. These grades
are subjective.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
So subjective, and it's so flawed. It is so flawed, like.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
It's then give it some guy great.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
It's like me saying I give the Eagles special teams
to C minus yesterday, So what you know, it's not.
I don't have any I don't have any empirical evidence
to back then up. That's how I feel. And those
grades are kind of how they feel.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
Yeah, the great the grading processes, it's flawed. I I
know that. I've I follow some people that work at
PFF and they've they've kind of like I know, like
one of them is Trevor Sickam. I've been a Trevor
Sickham a fan since he was on locked on unfl Draft,
so like he's a smart guy. But he has gone
on social media and explained in as much detail as
(56:41):
he can the process of it. But even when he does,
I'm still like, that's not I don't agree with that process.
It's there, there's stuff that you're missing and to be
able to like because they grade on like a point scale.
It's like negative two, negative one, zero one or two,
and like it's just look at to so I don't
have to explain the whole thing, but it's just I
(57:04):
don't agree with it. And so I am always gonna
push back and say, please do not send over PFF
grades as part of your argument. I will shut you
off like.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
I do not. You look at the thing on Sunday,
the Sunday Night football, they they put they ram it
down your throat, your throat, Oh my god, look at
a team you look at a team like, okay, they're
six and two and all their but like all their
PFF grades are like fifty it out of like all that, Like,
(57:35):
how are they five and two? Then if all their
guys stink on PFF, Like, how does that work? I
don't get it.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
I don't get it either. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah, you like look at it like, oh, the Roue Revis,
she's the the fourteenth best quarterback according to PFF. Til
I haven't seen anyone catch a pass on them in
two years.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's makes no sense. It makes no sense.
So I hear you, and my my my fight against
PFF grades will will continue on for until they put
me in the ground. So anything else you guys want
to bring up before we close shop.
Speaker 4 (58:15):
I really hope the run game thing doesn't morph into
people thinking Barkley is somehow a problem that he's not.
There are people that don't know what they're watching, and
you know, there's nothing wrong with Saquon Barkley. He's fine,
you know. He just he's getting tackled when he takes
(58:35):
the ball, you know, and that's really not Nobody's gonna
This is why he had he struggled those last few
years in New York.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
You know he.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
Hasn't changed marking, that's changed. Let's speak clear on that.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (58:53):
That's probably my last thought for the evening.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
From game coming up on Sunday. Obviously, the Giants they
whooped the Eagles pretty good on Thursday Night Football a
few weeks ago, so they're gonna be out for revenge.
Someone can explain to me how the New York Giants
lost yesterday. That would be cool.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
That extra points basically defense just.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
And then they got the rookie throwing it like he
throws it right to the linebacker, like yeah, I mean
it'll be interesting because I mean Jackson Dart is really good,
really really really really really.
Speaker 4 (59:39):
I think the Eagles if they stopped the run, which
yeah that Jackson Dart isn't gonna throw for four hundred
yards and beat you that way. But we'll see, we'll.
Speaker 1 (59:50):
See interesting if the Giants are are tuned in after
getting their their hearts ripped out like that.
Speaker 3 (59:59):
Yeah, bring, I'll say. I'll say. I'll say this because
I know when we did our preseason predictions and I
was like, I was with you. You you had you
had predicted the Giants and win second in the division
because you saw like the potential there, and I was,
like I I had said, I still put them a
third behind the Commanders. But I can see a possibility.
(01:00:22):
I can see a scenario where that plays out, because
if their defensive line balls out like they're supposed to be,
and if their rook if they start their rookie early
and he plays like he did in the preseason, oh yeah,
they can get second. They can get second in division.
Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
So I know it's not but like they should have
started Jackson Dart against the Chiefs in Week three for
their home opener.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Never had, they never had in the beginning. I'm just
gonna say.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
I Wilson threw for four and fifty yards against the
Calgaries Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
That is fair.
Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
That is fair. That fair your restings, You're right, all right,
good gentlemen, great talk, great stuff for all of us,
all those who are who tuned in to watch us.
Thank you so much. Again. We have if you want
some more Eagles coverage, Eagles talk, Pete and I will
be on film, don't lie. That will come up Wednesday
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the film, give you some you know, film shots, and
talk about what exactly the offense did so well to
get back on track, and then we'll also talk about
another game. I think we're going to talk about that
Broncos Giants game, uh and what happened at the end
dissected on the film as you know, as also kind
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
We're doing good. I had to be the voice of
reason last week and your in, your in your absence
and and everything is good, a nice, nice win on
the road. They can't run the ball, which baffles me,
but I guess we'll talk about that as the show progresses.
But Jalen's master before yesterday, and everything is is all good.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Everything is everything is I wouldn't say all good, but
it's it's looking up again, like there's reason for hope.
So yeah, I definitely, I definitely feel like there's more
positive vibes that we can go off of moving forward,
So we'll get into why that is and and all
that pe Why is is a maybe he's a fifty
(01:36):
to fifty to join us today, but less as usual.
We'll be joining us in a bit. But let's get
right into it. Let's let's start with our poll question
of the evening. As always, this was Jalen Hurt's best
regular season performance of his career so far. Agree or disagree?
It's an interesting one because, like, like right coming off
of this, that's knowing that this was you know, he
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had a he had a perfect pass rating in this game,
and this was a Brian Flores defense, which is which
has been one of the better defenses for years now.
So this was no short tast This was a difficult
challenge for Gilan Hurts, and he's he came through with
flying colors, no pun intended. But what do you think,
(02:26):
like if you're looking back and I'm trying to look
back at all the other regular season games that Hurts
has played amazing at, but what do you think do
you think this is this was his best one yet?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I'll say yes, I mean he played really good in
the Pittsburgh game last year. He's obviously he's been money
in the playoffs. But that's not that's not the pole question.
I'll say, yes, perhaps there's some recency biased because it
just happened yesterday and the team was on a two
game skid, and it wasn't no vibes, no sexiness at
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all in that two game said skid. They looked pretty
much dead in the water, and they needed a good
performance yesterday in Minnesota, and they got it and and
Jalen Hurts stepped to the head of the line and delivered.
The deep ball was there, the intermediate routes were there,
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the short routes were there. Everything was there. So they
really needed this game because five and two sounds a
whole heck of a lot better than four and three.
And if you're four and three with third game, like
losing three in a row to make you four and three,
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the patience that I exhibited last week probably wouldn't have
shown up tonight. But I mean, it starts with the quarterback.
It starts with number one. That's Jalen Hurts, and he delivered,
So I'll agree to the poll. He's obviously had some
other good ones, but they need they needed that yesterday.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, they absolutely did. I'm trying to think
of So I'm going through like all the other regular
season games since, like you know, I guess we can
start at twenty twenty two, because I was like his
coming out party, right, Uh, So I was trying to
look at, you know, all the other ones that he
had since then. The only other one that I think
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like could come that comes to mind that I'd say
is is right there, And it's hard to hard to
decide between the two is ironically the other game against
the Vikings in twenty twenty two. Yeah, twenty twenty two
on Monday Night football. It's that one because that game
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was like his coming out party, like his hey I'm here,
I'm him, this is I am I'm ready to now
be the just to establish myself as the franchise quarterback
of the Eagle and as one of one of the
better quarterbacks in the league. And like we he was
on fire that game, both on the ground and through
the air. So that game was the other one I
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thought of immediately. And you mentioned the Steelers game in
twenty twenty three, there was the one in there was
the Bills game that went overtime, was really really good.
One came up late. So it's it really. There are
definitely some to mention and to consider, but I think
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that if I'm going to look at it, I will
say this one. I'll agree to the poll and say
this was his best regular season game of his career
so far. And the reason why I say that, And
you know, I'm gonna get into the details of it
on film Don't Lie on Wednesday morning with Pete as
we were going to dive into the film and we'll
(05:53):
show exactly what I'm talking about. But there are things
that when it comes to Jalen Hurts, I've wanted to
see him improve on. I think we talked about it
right on this show as we were going into the
regular season. We talked about it in the preseason, you know,
like we do. We want Jalen hurt to improve and
I think me and you and and Pete kind of
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got kind of people. I got into it a little
bit and I was but I was saying, how like, yeah,
I want to see him do a better job of
throwing downfield when he scrambles out outside the pocket. And
I also want to see him throw to the middle
of the field better, right because he hardly he doesn't
consistently throw to that area of the field, and the
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middle of the field is really crucial in today's game
in terms of being able to access it and really
be able to attack defenses. And in this game, there
were several plays where he did just that, and you
see his you see the fact that he is actually
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able to do these things. And if he can do
this now consistently, almost weekend and week out, this is
a he will enter and get to another level of
his game that we haven't previously seen yet. And I
wouldn't put it past him to be able to write.
I wouldn't put it past Jalen Hurt says outside of
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twenty twenty three, every season he's gotten better as a quarterback,
you know, And it's it's very tough to say because
he when it comes to player development, we know that
progression isn't linear, right. It's you know, some players they'll
they'll maybe hit like a good incline and then the
plateau a little bit made for a year or two
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and then incline again. So like there's that maybe guys
will start their career is really really bad, hit a
plateau and won't see any improvement, and then your three
year you're forced for some reason, they'll they'll see an improvement.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Quinn Johnson's is an example of that. Right, quin Johnson
was so bad for years, but now he's legitimate, like
one of the better UH wide receivers on that you
could argue like maybe he is the best wide receiver
right now on the Charger. So it's it's really fun
to be able to watch and see Jalen Hurts make
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these improvements. And I think that if he continues to
do these things, it's gonna be great. And so I
I loved it because you have those aspects, and then
from a mental aspect, he is just obviously with it
with this being you know, uh he's now a season
VET and Super Bowl MVP. He's so much smarter now
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than he was even before his His his intellect and
the mental side of the game is just continuing to improve.
So I really am looking forward to what we can
continue to see from him. And you know, from from
this offense, how how it's going to be molded moving forward.
Uh So I like we we What did you if
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you were to pick out one part of this game
against the Vikings that stood out to you the most
about Hurts? What what would you say so that the.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Most Uh, it started fast. I mean, what was it
the first drive he threw it right to Aj on
the on the deep ball. Yeah, I mean they started
fast and then yeah, I would say the first one
to Aj because you get Aj off off right, you
get him to shut his mouth and Jalen hurts. I mean,
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he missed a bad deep ball against the Giants, so
and he's good at that, so that's surprising. So you
start the game off against the good defense on the road,
you set the tone, and you got Aj his touchdown early,
get that distraction out of the way, and really it's
set the tone for uh, the entire game. And he
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did a lot of this from the pocket as well.
He didn't really light the world on fire in terms
of running like he's capable of. So that was also
good to see that he was able to. I mean,
obviously he moved the pocket a little bit with his
legs because he can help if you not do that,
if you're capable of doing that. But this was this
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was a as good a throwing performance as I've seen
this season. I mean, perfect quarterback rating, but starting fast
after two games skid like that, that was that was
really important.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, a fast start. I mean, like we've seen him
come up to fast starts at certain games this year
and then like kind of slow down, and that's kind
of worried me. Yeah, because they after that first drive,
they had like four straight possessions after that where it
was just like three now three an hour, like you
know that that one possession before the half. So that
didn't worry me, but like he was able to he
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was able to kind of like get things going again
in the second half, which is really good. But yeah,
I think that you know, I mentioned the stuff I
had mentioned before, and it was really good to really
good to see him be able to still get the
offense going even with the stuff they had in the
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first half. And I think that's that's a good resilience
by him, especially in the second half. They didn't run
the ball well, you know, they like they were having
success in the first half and then second half just
it just went away. So I yeah, I think that
it was good, good perseverance by them and the offense
as a whole. And well, we'll see how it goes forward.
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Let's get to the comments and get some of these,
get some of the chat going. Egos on set and
as agree, hurt since had plenty of good games in
the regular season, would asked to pass a bunch, but
this was his first Super Bowl play in a regular season,
which was nice to see. Uh should see here. Mike
marsh says, go birds. He also says the Minnesota game
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in twenty two monay in football, isn't no stand that
I remember? Yeah, so same thing, same thing that I
had said it was, wasn't coming up party. Yeah, Tennessee
the tennis game against Tennessee in twenty twenty two as well,
although like for obvious reasons, I remember that game more
so for a j. Brown, but absolutely like Jalen Hurts
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obviously had a great game that that game as well,
Yeah he had. Mike Marshall also says he said no
running game this year to help either. Yeah, that's another thing,
like no no running game to fall back on. But
he's able to to really he's he was able to
really operate independent of a running game success. So that's
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that's great to see. Jesse Davis says, passing game isn't
that different from last year. We ran a ton of
go come back and post rites and shotgun. We're just
missing two thousand yards rushing. I remember we we would
get fourteen yards and turn and eleven. Yeah, that the
explosive runs are a big, big, big like that. They're
handcuffing the offense right now, and they're they're struggling to
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find any type of momentum without that. But if they
can do the things that they did against the Vikings,
that will go a long way. And it will also help,
in turn, help the running game get going too, because
now teams won't be able to load the box as often,
which will help, you know, open things up. So he
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goes such as his ability to spread the ball eagerly
and do it on time. Yeah, that's that was a
big plus. I mean it was both a j. Brown
and and DeVante Smith that that got going. So amazing job,
amazing stuff by them, and it was I. I liked
it a lot. I liked what I really really liked
what I saw from Jalen Hurts. Just bring in our friend,
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our good friend less bowen Less. How are you haven't
seen you in your food in a few weeks because
I've out but no, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, I'm great, chucks, how are you guys?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
We're really really good, really good. So let's ask you
the same pole question. Both Rob and I agreed, But
what do you think was this Jalen Hurts? Was this
his best regular season performance of his career so far?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You know, I would say so. The thing that struck
me was the not just the stats, but the clutch throws.
They had so many times they had nothing going on
on first or second down, a few times even on
third down, and he just found a way to get
it downfield and get them a long you know, third
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down conversion, fourth down conversion. That's very, very difficult. You know,
I just don't. I haven't seen much of that from anybody.
In fact, I was realizing after the game when they
said there were only three one fifty eight point three
perfect passer rating performances in Eagles history. I was realizing
I covered the first two. I'm kind of forgotten that
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that was the deal. But it was McNabb in two
thousand and seven against the Lions and then the Nick
Foles seven touchdown game at Oakland, and even those two games,
like seven touchdowns is seven touchdowns, but Nick was throwing
to guys that were just running wide open down the field.
(15:28):
There weren't a lot of it was a blowout when
there weren't a lot of you know, he wasn't saving
the team's bacon every every three or four series. Yeah,
I just thought it was really he was. He and
the receivers were the only thing that was working for
the for the Eagles offense yesterday. And I think that
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makes it, to me, his best regular season performance because
he kind of had to put the team on his shoulders.
People talk about that a lot, but I think we
actually saw it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, and I alluded to it before you You had
Tom on that he didn't have a running game to
kind of not fall back on, but to help him, right, So,
like he's literally just doing it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
The running game made it harder, made it second twelve,
you know. I mean, geez, Louis, I don't want to
get off topic, but I can't understand why they can't
fix this.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's it's a multitude of things, and I keep saying,
like I keep seeing people online, you know, try to
pinpoint one thing and say, oh, it's it's the offensive line,
it's their their execution and how bad enough they be,
And then other people say, no, it's it's a play calling,
it's Kevin Patula, like it's you know, if you're gonna
really be honest, it's it's both. It's not just one thing.
(16:47):
You know that injuries to Dickerson and then your jiggin's
not running, not not being as good as he was,
and then uh Steve not being the mall er that
uh Beck team was, that's gonna that's gonna hamper it.
And then obviously the you also have the Kevin Pillow
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factor and then the play Caong factor that it's it
doesn't help when it's predictable, and it doesn't help when
you keep calling run concepts that don't help out your
struggling offensive linemen.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So you know, yeah, the offensive linemen they're not executing.
But if I think we talked about it weeks ago,
I forget which game it was against the Bucks, if
they can if this, if the defense can have seven
or eight in the box and just tee off right
off the snap because we know you're gonna run it.
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I mean, it doesn't matter how many blockers you are,
how good the block the blockers are going to execute
their blocks. They're they're going they're not gonna be outnumbered. So, like,
you know, those things factor in. So it's a bunch
of a bunch of stuff. But you know, I I
have you know, I watched the film today and I'll
definitely have like more detail about it. Me and Pete
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we'll talk about on film Don't Live, which again it
comes out on Wednesday morning, so catch us on Wednesday
morning to do you know the film deep dive of
this game. But the Passing Game did definitely a lot
of things they did, especially when it comes to under
center play action. They introduced that concept that was like
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a point of emphasis this game. So it was really
good to see, hey, like they're actually doing new things.
So I liked a lot of what I saw from
the Passing Game, specifically in the second half. But I'll
pose this question to you guys now, So considering that
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the run games still can't get going, do you see
this still as the like the offensive offenses like the
situation there are now, do you see has glass half empty?
As in like you're still concerned and you're afraid this
offense can appear, you know, a half at a time
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on any given week, or do you think it's half full?
That they're improving and you expect these things to continue
to get better. So let's start with you half full
or half empty.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Definitely half full. Like teams don't care that Jalen Hurts
is throwing the ball better than he ever has. They're
still loading the box. They're not letting the Eagles beat
them on the ground. That's just the way. I don't
know what you do about that, because if it's eight
against five, it doesn't matter if you have all pros
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in every line position. It's math. It's just not yep,
it's not gonna work out. So I mean, until these
teams start respecting Jalen more and not loading a box
against our game, I think it's gonna be gonna be
more of the same. I mean, look, the Saquon Barkley
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stink now, No, Like, can they not run the ball
because Makai Beckton is playing for a different team. Now,
I don't think that's the case. They should be able
to be fine with Tyler Steen in there, even though
he's not as good as Makai Beckton. Dickerson's been hurt Jurgens.
I know he has herjery in the offseason. Maybe he's
not all the way there yet because he's not my
lot is not playing as well as he did last year.
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Why why is this Lane? Johnson has missed portions of games,
So I don't know. Maybe they need a bye week.
I don't know. I don't know. But they're five and
two and they haven't played sixty anywhere close to sixty
minutes of good football. They haven't played a full game.
And this is not a hollow five and two record.
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Like they didn't play the Jets, they didn't play the Browns,
they didn't play the Dolphins. They've all the these teams
that I watch on ESPN and all the analysts on
there on NFL Network in ESPN, that's say this team's good,
this team's good, this team is clearly contender. They all
have one thing in common. They've all lost to the
Philadelphia Eagles, Tampa Rams, Chiefs. Uh, they dropped. They dropped
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the game to Denver, which they should have won. They're
up fourteen with whatever in the fourth quarter. They should
have won that game, but they didn't. I mean, Dallas
scores forty points a game, but not when they're playing
the Eagles. It definitely definitely have full Yeah, that's what
do you think? Boy?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
That's really well said. Rob. I agree pretty much. I
am maybe a little more concerned that they just can't
get this going. I know the I understand about the
eight in the box. The Vikings, though, were one of
the worst run stopping teams in the league, and you
just didn't any sense that after those first three runs
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of the game that the Eagles could gain a yard
other than Tush pushing. It does concern me, but I'll
go along with Halful. I understand what you're saying, and
I think we really are gonna have to see them
throw the ball down the field to loosen this up.
I mean, and do it really, really well the way
they did it yesterday. And I don't know how you
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get some offensive rhythm. I don't think you can do
it exactly like you did it yesterday. What I was
saying earlier about you know, you're not gonna get third
and thirteen completions, you know out the wazoo. That's just
not the way to play football. But they're gonna have
to find a way without a dominant running game to
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get some some rhythm in the offense. And you know,
not be asking Jalen to perform miracles, but they basically, yes,
I think they're basically okay. I just want to see, Yeah,
you mentioned the play action yesterday, the under center stuff.
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Let's let's do some more you know, innovating and get
give the teams some more things that maybe they weren't expecting.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, and you know, and and it's fine that we
still didn't see like a ton of new things and
like a ton of improvement because like we knew, like
it's not going to be like overnight, you know, an
overnight kind of overhaul, like you have to see progressively.
So I thought this was a step in the right direction. Uh,
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in terms of the running game, Like we had success
in the first half obviously, and it's just specifically that
first drive, I think tok being in there for Jurggins
really did affect it because you're looking at there are
several players we're top of just getting no push. He
was getting pushed back. So I think tough in there
at center really derailed a bunch of those runs. And
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it's it's so unfortunate because like you talk about, like
you know, in that's my I think my Lotta said
it before that on a good amount of these runs,
they're just one block away, and you could absolutely see
that there were there were plays where it's it's just
it's just one block, but oftentimes against the Vikings it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Was tough and right, well, you mentioned start getting that
block though, because I'm sick of hearing that for too much.
They're one block away from busted.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Like okay, no, I hear you. My point is, My
point is I would I would be very critical if
I was if it was consistently one of the starters
missing these blocks. And we've been critical, right Jurgens, We've
said we've been critical of them. We talked about Dickerson
not being healthy and playing well. We mentioned my lot
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of what I'm saying is it's tough, so like you,
no offense to tot but he's he's he's a reserve
for a reason. Yeah, so I can't. I can't be
mad at him necessarily for being a backup center who
had to play most of the game. It is the
situation that it is yesterday. But yeah, in general, they
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if it's one of these starters, they have to start
making these blocks.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Was it you, Chucks or someone else on social media
who pointed out that to second snap they had had
a run that required him to reach out to a
defensive tackle who was like, you know, it was like
a really difficult.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
It wasn't me, but I did see that.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yes, you know, I mean what.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
It's I think that this offense has gotten used to
having guys like Kelsey and Jurgis who who can execute
they're athletic enough to execute those types of reach blocks often,
but not.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Know what just happened. You know, he's got in there.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's it's it's tough. It's it's very very tough, and
like it's this is I'm not trying to give him
a pass, but I can understand what I'm saying. Like yesterday,
just specifically yesterday, I can kind of understand why the
run game kind of got derailed because they did call
more tosses and I've been saying, you know, for weeks now,
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run it more to the outside, running more to the outside,
and they did with them going under center a lot,
they did run a good amount of toss plays. So
I am not I can't. I can't go back and
criticize them when they did what I was saying. The
issue with that now, with with having taught in there,
is that he can't execute those He's not athletic enough
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to execute those blocks. So it's just like damned if
you do, damned if you don't kind of thing. And
so that's why I like, I can kind of understand
yesterday the run game kind of falling off after the
first possession, but you know, thank god, the passing game
picked it up. So you know, I do think it's
going at some point, and I'm praying it's against the
Giants on Sunday, you know, can get his kind of
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like his his get back at them, but it I
I do think at some point it's gonna be, it's
gonna click.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Dickerson yesterday looked looked actually the besties look all year,
So like that's good thing. That's a good sign that, hey,
Dickerson came back and he started to look pretty good.
It's just so unfortunate Jurgens was was out. So it
is what it is and hopefully Durgons is back next
week and it's not too bad of an injury. Anything
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else that you guys, because I did want to flip
over to the defensive side, uh and and touch on
the breaking news kind of from the day or two.
But did you did you guys have anything else on
the offensive tea?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah? Did you see the little creative way that Brian
Flores tried to stop the toast.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, yeah, so I don't think he was the first
one to do I feel like someone else did that.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Really sideways business.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, I got sworn last year almost work a team
they did that for what I think it was like
one play A team tried to do this. Why do
I feel like it was the Chiefs. I don't know,
but I again.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Like I I think that leaves you wide open. I'm
not any kind of great maven of these things. But
then you just don't have to run it in there,
you can, you know, I mean you're giving away a player. Basically,
you're playing eleven on ten at that point. I'm not
sure that's gonna really.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, you don't have to worry about it past the season.
They're gonna ban it in the off season.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, although you did. If you watch the forty nine
ers last night, Christian McCaffrey scores a touchdown where the
guard gets into the end zone, McCaffrey's stopped, Yeah, and
the guard just grabs him and pulls him.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
In that that I think, Yah, Yeah, you can't do that. Yep,
you do that. I forget who the On Sunday Night
Football forget who the the the like the official, the
official that that they tune into I forget, but he
had said that's against the rules. It should have been called,
(29:22):
so you know, call it, but you know, it's just
really funny. And to just quickly finish the tangent. They're
going to change the rules so that you can't push
players anymore. And the system there are so many other
players outside of the toush push are no longer going
(29:43):
to be able to to be done now because like
we see it almost every Sunday, where stopped and they're
pushing him. You know, they're pushing the pile, and that's
going to go out the window.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So frustrating because like the tush push isn't successful because
I mean, I I guess that's it's a part of
it for sure, but like it's it's not an unstoppable
play for the Philadelphia Eagles because guys the guys behind
are pushing them. Doesn't help probably, but clearly they work
on it from a blocking standpoint, and Jalen Hurts is
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a very very strong in his lower half. I was
watching the Ravens and the Rams a few weeks ago.
The Ravens tried to do three straight push pushes with
their tight end, with their tight end, they didn't.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Get one of them get one. Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So this notion that is that it's not a fair
play and how come everyone can't do it? Then only
the Eagles can do it? And I think did Brady
did it for twenty years?
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah? He did a state. That's why I think Rob
I am not like, I'm done like being so mad
about wanting a band because after they've been and I
still think the Eagles are going to have very conversion
rates still maybe not like as high as now, but
it's still gonna be higher than most teams because they
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still can operate a sneak very very very well. Like,
so I'm not worried about it, and it's gonna be
funny seeing us still be successful on these QB sneaks
and the like. The league can't do anything about it
because the touch versus band, so now, like you know,
you handcuff yourself even more so, I just I'm done
trying to be mad about it. Just ban it, and
(31:30):
it's not gonna really affect us that much. I really
don't think so. But so flipping over to the defensive side, right,
let's lead it off of this the big news, all right,
and I have my two cents on this, but I'll
let you guys go first. Uh you know BG, I
think we had a comment urn here. Yeah, Chrome, Hey,
(31:53):
what's up? BG is back? Yes, he's expected to sign
come out of retirement and sign back and come back.
So yeah, just your thoughts, guys. Yeah, let's start with you. Well,
what your your initial reactions to.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
First, a sort of ephemeral, tangential thing. B G being
all about business is going to announce this on his
pH l Y podcast tomorrow. Is hilarious, like he doesn't
have enough money, you know, he wants to make sure
the podcast doesn't. But my only concern here, I mean,
(32:36):
I think it's a good It can't hurt, right, what
could it hurt? What could it hurt having Brandon Graham,
even if he's just there to lead and boost morale
and places five snaps a game, it can't hurt anything.
My concern is that people are going to get too
caught up in this and to expect too much of it.
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You know, this is a third seven year old man
who's had two bad muscle tears in the last year.
He's not gonna transform their pass rush or anything. He
might set the edge a little better than Jahad Campbell
did yesterday. But you know, hilarious to me, by the way,
I'll go off on another tangent. They vic can't use
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Bryce Huff because he couldn't set the edge. Well, now
he's got Jehad Campbell out there, who's basically Bryce Huff
as a pass rusher, you know. And but anyway, and
Bryce Huff is although he's hurt, now Bryce Huf's sacking
people for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Well, uh, BG is not gonna he's not gonna play
forty snaps a game. He's not gonna get a bunch
of sacks and change everything for the defense.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
If he it might take a few weeks. It'll probably
be after the bye when he actually plays, I guess.
And if he gets ten snaps and they look decent,
that'll be great as far as I'm concerned. But the
real they need help, though, and the help is going
to have to come from somewhere else, which I guess
is my bottom line. This isn't this is an emergency move.
(34:18):
It's to stop. This is a tourniquet. It's not a cure.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
To talk about. Yeah, yeah, brings your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I mean, like I kind of agree with less. I mean,
Zadarius Smith really put them through a curveball. Yes, loss,
yet picking up and and just just leaving. And he
was being effective too.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yes, and no one understands what the hell happened there,
But go ahead, Robin.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I mean it would be good for the locker room.
It's gonna be like everybody likes him. He wasn't He
retired because he was old and just felt like it
was time to time to move on. Like he wasn't
a bad player last year he suffered injury and and
came back, but and I guess to just preserve his
(35:06):
life post football, decided to hang it up. But from
a production standpoint, he was still a serviceable NFL player.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
The game he got hurt on he got injured at
he was tearing it up. It was the Rams game,
remember like he was that was his best game of
the year. I forget if he had multiple sacks, but
he definitely was like on fire that game and then
he got hurt.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
So yeah, but continue, But yeah, I mean I ain't
something I would still be exploring the trademarket ahead of
the deadline is coming up, I believe November four. November four,
thank you. This is yeah, like this is not You
need beg to give you some competence snaps, and you
(35:52):
probably need to get really a body in here because
Chid Campbell, like you said, didn't work out on the edge.
He can't. He can't set the edge in the NFL.
He's he's a linebacker. So those pipe dreams that that
people like myself had that he could maybe help out
when Nakobe d which Nikobe Dan is back now, so
(36:14):
that's probably why they tried it like that. They tried it. Cool,
thank you, but no, you can.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Do it on third and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But yeah, yeah, exact spots.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
But yeah, I mean Nolan Smith will be back, which
is good. He'll be back for the Packers. He's eligible
to come back for the Packers game after the bye,
so that's another potential reinforcement. But I would still be
looking like when you're when your lead socker is Moro Jamo,
(36:47):
a defensive tackle and he only has three Uh, that's
that's that doesn't work. Yeah, yeah, you need you need
someone on the edge that is going to get after
the quarterback and.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
And they seem to lose one every week.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
My god, I know he played well.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Quarterback gets hurt? You know how did he get hurt?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Oh? My god?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, I am in the in the chap Bradley Chubb
from Miami. Yeah, I mean you're going to be selling
at the deadline. That team is horrendous. Yeah, horrendous.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah. We'll get to some trade targets after this. But
the the BG thing, I'm I'm I'm, I'm like, I
have like mixed feelings, you know. I I agree with
everything you guys said from a positive standpoint in terms of, yeah,
he comes back, he's he's not a bad player by
any means, at least like last year he wasn't. Uh
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So you're getting, like, you know, a solid rotational edge
player who can come in and self contribute in some degree,
in some degree as and as a rotation. And I
think that the biggest impact he'll make is the locker
room and everyone knows the type of leader he is
and how he comes in and sets like the vibe
(38:10):
and the tone, uh for that for that defense. So
I agree with that, I think just from I My
mixed feelings come from the fan standpoint of, you know,
I love BG so much. He's one of my favorite
all time Eagles, Like, how can you not like he's
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he's an icon. I I just loved that he was
able to win the Super Bowl and have like that
kind of like fairy tale sending off. That's that's where
it all comes from. I I love that for him,
and I would hate I just and maybe it's selfish
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as a stand as a fan like one of percent,
I admit that, But like I I think about Jason
Kelsey's last year going to collapse, right, and it breaks
my heart that that it was his last year, that
was that was the last The last we saw Jason
Kelsey was during that collapse, I would hit and I'm
not gonna what I'm not saying and like this season
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is going to collapse. What I'm saying is it's hard
to It's almost impossible to one up a super Bowl
send off, you know, as your your your curtain call,
and it's very hard to to to really one up
on that. And I want that for him, but hey,
(39:36):
if he if things still pan out, well then yeah,
sure that's I'm glad. It's just I just worry for
him that it's it's not I want a better ending
for him.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
You know, I don't know that I agree with you,
but I don't know that that's what you really remember.
I mean, he's still played in three Super Bowls and
one two. Yeah, I think that's what fifteen years now
people will talk about, not so much. Well, yeah, you
tried to come back that one year, you know, and
then yeah, yeah, I understand exactly what you're saying, and
(40:09):
I agree, and I don't. I'll tell you what I
when I first heard about this a week or so ago,
what I was hearing was that how I wanted this,
and BG was kind.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Of like, oh, really, okay.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
But maybe I heard the wrong. You know, I didn't
hear this directly from BG or anything, but I he
he was. He was pretty happy to be retired. I think,
you know, by the way I did ask Kelsey yesterday.
He said no. He said he's lost so much weight
it would he can't.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Oh oh, you're saying if Kelsey would.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Come back, Yeah, no, I mean it wouldn't do that
at this point, you know, which one didn't really need more.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Uh. With all due respect to Brandon Graham and what
he's doing off the field, like Jason Kelsey is killing
it off the field.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Oh yeah, my god, Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I mean the only one who has a more popular
podcast than the Kelsey Brothers is Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I think, yeah, I guess that they're getting on. Like
I think like a like a couple of weeks ago
that Keanu Reeves. I'm like, oh geez, so yeah, and
so Jason Kelsey is doing fine off off off the field.
Uh yeah, I I it's funny you say that less
(41:32):
because I mean, this was it just would have been
my my guess, my assumption. I would have thought that
this would have stemmed from BG initiating it. I would
have thought been like IG wants to play. And part
of that is also because because of what Kelsey said
when I was on the pod or forget where else,
(41:54):
but like he was asked or he he talked about
how BG never really wanted to retire. He was just
kind of told to retire, right, and so well I did.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
I didn't know that he said that, and maybe that's
the case, but I sure thought BG was like that
last year was like maybe you know, I mean, he
didn't he almost retired the year before and he gave
me one year.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, I remember, you know, I kind.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Of thought he was after he got hurt, that he
was pretty at peace with the idea of retiring as
long as he got to play in the super Bowl.
But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I don't, Yeah, who knows, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
I do think from Howie's perspective, it's a no brainer.
It's not going to cost a lot of money. He
knows the defense. He will help to some extent. You know,
he's not gonna not help, you know. I mean, I
think it would be a very easy trigger for Howie
to pull. You know, he's not he didn't have to
get back in shape and get hit all the time.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Uh So, yeah, those are our thoughts
on BG. Let us know, like I know, Greg is well,
Greg is also kind of like a negative Nancy, So
he's like he's out on BEG coming back. It'll help
the long kind of, it'll help the locker room. Sorry,
but that it makes any impact on the field. That
(43:17):
being said, we can't get any worse on the edge
right now, and it does. Ye, So yeah, so let's
let's let's go into this now. You know, even with
a new I know you allude to, it brings back
but the trade deadline is still coming approaching. I still
(43:42):
I agree with you, guys, I still would like them
to trade for another Edge player. Uh, but let's rather,
are there any names that kind of and it doesn't
have to be Edge. I'm just like in general now, like,
are there any names out there that you kind of
that's kind of on your wish of who you want
the egos to target? So Brings, we'll start with you.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I mean, Bradley Chubb is is a good name that
would help. I'm actually looking at an article right now,
m hm. But like, I mean, like, I don't think
anything like Trey Hendrickson or I don't know what the
Raiders plans are with with Max Crosby, but I doubt
(44:29):
he would get dealt So I don't know. But how
he's no. To answer the question, no, I don't have
a specific target in mind. Bradley Chubb seems to be realistic.
He's younger player. Trey Hendrickson is really old. He's at
(44:50):
the tail end of his career. Uh, Miami stinks and
that might be like so that I guess that, and
I would put Edge Rush as the top priority. I
know a lot of people have concerns with cornerback, but
I think they can skate by as long as quinny
On Mitchell continues to be elite with with a subpar
(45:14):
second corner and who played a lot outside, Cooper Gen
played outside at least some. Yesterday he broke out a
nice breakup on Justin Jefferson in the end zone. I
think that if they don't do anything at corner, it
will be fine. But if you get if you're getting
pass rush like that makes your secondary look a lot better. Right, Yeah,
(45:38):
I guess Bradley Chubb would be my target. I mean,
if you want to swing for Max Crlsby makes a
lot of money as well, So I don't know how
that would fit with the cap and things like that. Obviously,
that's a that's a big time name and would obviously
help thirty one other teams because he doesn't seem to
be helping the Raiders win any games. That's for sure.
(46:01):
They stink too. It's always the same teams that just
stink every year.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Often is yes, okay, sorry, no.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
That they're gonna have to do something. They got to
get a body. Yeah, at least you need to have
active players that play defensive line.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
M HM.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
So they have to do something.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, but LUs, what do you think any names to you?
Speaker 4 (46:30):
I would look for guys that have played for Fangio
in the past. Uh, Jubb is obviously right at the
top of that list. But I don't know. I didn't
I didn't know where we're going to do this and
really prepare a list. I know I was reading a
thing Jimmy Kemsky wrote about and this isn't the guy
who's played for for Fangio, but there was a guy
(46:51):
with the Falcons who's been displaced by the people they
brought in Arnold last name a Ka Titty or whatever.
How do you pronounce that?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
I don't know, But it's like, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
But he's not gonna. He's not gonna set the world
on fire. But he's a live body who with a young,
live body who's you know, maybe they would like to
get something for him. I guess his contract is gonna
be up this year. Yeah, and uh, you know that's
worth checking in on. I guess. I mean, I don't
know that you're gonna be able to make some huge,
(47:31):
splashy move that's gonna solve everything. That's not the way
it typically goes. Once in a while you get a
J and ji to trade deadline, but a lot of times,
you know, a lot of times you just have to
take somebody who might be a little bit of help
here and there and hope for the best.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, it's pronounced abokadie. I always like, I always am
tempted to put like a different pronouncation on that one e,
but ab acadie, you do that, like he would be
lower on my list. But like I I understand. I
did read Kemy's article, and he's the one name I
was like, Eh, probably like the least interested in. But
(48:13):
I can't, I can't under so I have, so I
did agree someone like I'm kind of like lukewarm on
the Cam Taylor brit suggestion if you're gonna go corner,
I'm lukewarm on that. It's not really he's not really
the fangio type, so he's not physical and tackler and
(48:34):
all that. But I mean, like, you're you're getting desperate
here if you're if you're looking at corner, like if
you're not happy with it's not like Ringo or Dorry
Jackson or great tacklers either, So you know you're kind
of like you're you're you're nippicking or you're you're trying
to really just get someone else, you know, I mean
looking at Corner, I still am holding out hope on Ja,
(48:59):
Cory and Bennett. So yeah, when they go back, I
still think he should be like.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
That's more likely than Corner. That's gonna you know, really,
I think exactly so traded for a guy, they traded
what a fourth rounder for him.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Something like that, the D three pick five, I think, yeah,
so they there's that. But if you're talking about edge
rusher value, shrub is an obvious name, one hundred percent
agree with that. I am looking also at the two
guys on the Jets, the other in Sex team, the
Owen six team, talking about Will McDonald and Jermaine Johnson,
like I would absolutely, yeah, I think either one of them.
(49:37):
I don't again, I don't know how much in sol
mood they are because I know they're trying to still
build something, you know what I mean with with Aaron Glenn,
even though it's not going well on the defensive side. Uh,
but if they are looking at the movie one of them,
I would gladly take either one of them. So those
three edge players are the guys that I kind of
(49:57):
primarily have my eye on the big names like Tree,
Trey Hendrickson, and Max Crosby. I don't really expect I'm
with you, Like, it's not it's not realistic. I know
everyone wants to say.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Them, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
This article also mentioned Matthew Judan he's on the Dolphins.
He was, Yeah, I can I can see that he
that's that's like the type of guy.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
A few years ago he was one of my favorite players,
but now.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
He got off last year when you remember when he
signed with the Falcons and he just he fell off.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
So yeah, I think you're a healthy scratch for the Dolphins.
That's a lot like, man, you're healthy and can play,
but we can we don't need you.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
That's that's like, that's that's like what you're gonna get
because I don't see him. I don't see Howie giving
up much trade capital at the deadline.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I don't see it either. Yeah, And like Nolan Smith
is coming back, so it's like you have reinforcements coming now.
Was Nolan Smith like playing out of his mind or
anything like that, No, but I mean.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
He was playing pretty well well.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Against and he's not a huge guy, but he.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Exactly exactly because he plays on leverage. Yeah, leverage and
momentum he plays with so like it's it's it's really
really good. Robert Gilchrist to say McDonald's I would say
boy was a beast. Yeah, and then Humper says, uh,
we're getting Nolan Smith back and that's it. Anything else, Uh,
Andrew Baker says we need defensive help. Jen Carter currently
(51:39):
has six solo tackles and zero sacks. I'm not looking
at the sas thing with John Carter. He's getting penetration.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
He's like.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yesterday, I mean, if this was hockey, he would get
the first assist on that.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Interception exactly exactly. And he's constantly if you don't see
now if there's one thing to kind of like nitpick
with him or like criticize him on this year when
he's constantly getting double team, Yeah, there are times where
you can seek him get frustrated and not maybe give
full effort, but like he's constantly getting double team or held.
(52:17):
So like it's you know, it's understandable. I don't think
Carter is playing bad and I'm not judging him on sacks.
So he's getting when he gets one on ones, he's
wrecking games. So yeah, Bumper says, how he's never trying
anything higher than the third. I'm here, Yeah, I'm looking
(52:38):
at the poor safety play reading but have I don't know,
I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
Had a huge mistackle yesterday.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, and he's got a tackle guy. He's not that.
He's not a thumper at safety. He's got ball skills,
he's smaller, he's a rookie.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
When they throw a three yard out to Justin Jefferson,
you can't turn it into a fifty yards, but you
can't tackle the guy.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
And remember, there was another game here where it was
I know, outside of the Giants game because we know
about that mess tackle, but there was another game where
he missed the tackle and went for a big play.
I feel like it was against the Chiefs, but I
don't remember. But like, like, mcuba is a rookie, he's
gonna have moments like this, but he's also had some
(53:28):
pretty impressive moments. So I pushed back on the Macuba
kind of like thing.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
But what I pushed blankenship hasn't been horrific. I don't
don't an undrafted guy of very limited physical skills, who's
really done well, you know, he's a starting quality NFL safety.
He's not at all pro or anything like that. Yeah,
you know, let's be realistic. I mean, you're not going
(53:55):
to have the best player at every position. There's nothing
wrong with Blankenship. You can win. You know.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
I don't understand it, Like there's there's apparently this sentiment,
this growing sentiment or narrative online of fans saying Blaionship
has been bad. I don't like where he hasn't been bad, Like, okay,
so pep read a seventy eighth rank safety in the NFL.
I'm about to go off. Are you basing this? Please
(54:27):
don't tell me you're basing this off of p f
F grades. Now, please don't tell me. I I am
y'all know how I feel about PFF grades. They please
do not tell me you're trying to base off PFF grades.
Because this is Chris.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
At the bottom of Sunday Night Football. Because they didn't
Chris collins Worth invented.
Speaker 4 (54:48):
No, he didn't invent it. He bought the company, bought.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
The company, the loss of it. Yeah, he is so
Chris Long. Yeah, lest Chris Long. It was the this
person that has criticized.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
P I looking at their quarterback rankings and software they.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
As it's and then I think earlier this year, Steve
Spagnolo called them out during a press conference. Last year,
Saquon called them out during his interview with The Pivot.
There was another J. J. Watt has called them out
several times. It's I again, I like PFF for their
(55:27):
for their stats and their their analytics, the data that
they provide. I think that stuff is awesome that they give,
but when it comes to their grades, it's so bad
and breaks to your point, like what what makes it
even worse is that it's pushed onto us as if
it's gospel. That's that's the other thing I think.
Speaker 4 (55:49):
You know, a lot of the analytics stuff they do
is is factual base. These grades are not. These grades
are subjective.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
So subjective, and it's so flawed. It is so flawed, like.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
It's then give it some guy great.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
It's like me saying I give the Eagles special teams
to C minus yesterday, So what you know, it's not.
I don't have any I don't have any empirical evidence
to back then up. That's how I feel. And those
grades are kind of how they feel.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
Yeah, the great the grading processes, it's flawed. I I
know that. I've I follow some people that work at
PFF and they've they've kind of like I know, like
one of them is Trevor Sickam. I've been a Trevor
Sickham a fan since he was on locked on unfl Draft,
so like he's a smart guy. But he has gone
on social media and explained in as much detail as
(56:41):
he can the process of it. But even when he does,
I'm still like, that's not I don't agree with that process.
It's there, there's stuff that you're missing and to be
able to like because they grade on like a point scale.
It's like negative two, negative one, zero one or two,
and like it's just look at to so I don't
have to explain the whole thing, but it's just I
(57:04):
don't agree with it. And so I am always gonna
push back and say, please do not send over PFF
grades as part of your argument. I will shut you
off like.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
I do not. You look at the thing on Sunday,
the Sunday Night football, they they put they ram it
down your throat, your throat, Oh my god, look at
a team you look at a team like, okay, they're
six and two and all their but like all their
PFF grades are like fifty it out of like all that, Like,
(57:35):
how are they five and two? Then if all their
guys stink on PFF, Like, how does that work? I
don't get it.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
I don't get it either. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah, you like look at it like, oh, the Roue Revis,
she's the the fourteenth best quarterback according to PFF. Til
I haven't seen anyone catch a pass on them in
two years.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's makes no sense. It makes no sense.
So I hear you, and my my my fight against
PFF grades will will continue on for until they put
me in the ground. So anything else you guys want
to bring up before we close shop.
Speaker 4 (58:15):
I really hope the run game thing doesn't morph into
people thinking Barkley is somehow a problem that he's not.
There are people that don't know what they're watching, and
you know, there's nothing wrong with Saquon Barkley. He's fine,
you know. He just he's getting tackled when he takes
(58:35):
the ball, you know, and that's really not Nobody's gonna
This is why he had he struggled those last few
years in New York.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
You know he.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
Hasn't changed marking, that's changed. Let's speak clear on that.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (58:53):
That's probably my last thought for the evening.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
From game coming up on Sunday. Obviously, the Giants they
whooped the Eagles pretty good on Thursday Night Football a
few weeks ago, so they're gonna be out for revenge.
Someone can explain to me how the New York Giants
lost yesterday. That would be cool.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
That extra points basically defense just.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
And then they got the rookie throwing it like he
throws it right to the linebacker, like yeah, I mean
it'll be interesting because I mean Jackson Dart is really good,
really really really really really.
Speaker 4 (59:39):
I think the Eagles if they stopped the run, which
yeah that Jackson Dart isn't gonna throw for four hundred
yards and beat you that way. But we'll see, we'll.
Speaker 1 (59:50):
See interesting if the Giants are are tuned in after
getting their their hearts ripped out like that.
Speaker 3 (59:59):
Yeah, bring, I'll say. I'll say. I'll say this because
I know when we did our preseason predictions and I
was like, I was with you. You you had you
had predicted the Giants and win second in the division
because you saw like the potential there, and I was,
like I I had said, I still put them a
third behind the Commanders. But I can see a possibility.
(01:00:22):
I can see a scenario where that plays out, because
if their defensive line balls out like they're supposed to be,
and if their rook if they start their rookie early
and he plays like he did in the preseason, oh yeah,
they can get second. They can get second in division.
Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
So I know it's not but like they should have
started Jackson Dart against the Chiefs in Week three for
their home opener.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Never had, they never had in the beginning. I'm just
gonna say.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
I Wilson threw for four and fifty yards against the
Calgaries Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
That is fair.
Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
That is fair. That fair your restings, You're right, all right,
good gentlemen, great talk, great stuff for all of us,
all those who are who tuned in to watch us.
Thank you so much. Again. We have if you want
some more Eagles coverage, Eagles talk, Pete and I will
be on film, don't lie. That will come up Wednesday
(01:01:19):
morning at eight thirty. We will will dive deep into
the film, give you some you know, film shots, and
talk about what exactly the offense did so well to
get back on track, and then we'll also talk about
another game. I think we're going to talk about that
Broncos Giants game, uh and what happened at the end
dissected on the film as you know, as also kind
(01:01:41):
of like a semi preview to the Eagles Giants game.
So tune in to a film don't lie on Wednesday morning.
Thank you for our sponsor uh Bajios Bread again mention
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myself for brings, and our good friend Les Bowen. We
will see you next week, hopefully after an Eagles another
(01:02:03):
Eagles win the time over they hated New York Giants
until then. God bless peace out and go Birds.
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Yes,
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