November 25, 2025 • 55 mins
In this episode of Eagles Talk, we break down the Eagles' stunning 24-21 loss to the Cowboys in Week 12. How did Philadelphia go from dominating the first half with 3 touchdowns to being shut out for the final 30 minutes? We’re playing the "Blame Game" to figure out who is truly responsible for this disaster in Dallas.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hell you.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Let me get the hell you.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Fond?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
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hit that, subscribe, turn those notifications on and jump in
the comments. Tell us what you think a embarrassing I
can't even describe what I'm feeling after yesterday's loss. We
had penalties, we had turnovers, We had the poor offense,
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we had injuries on defense. The offensive line completely stinks.
You know, pee why I mean? Teams that want to
make a legitimate run at a Lombardi Trophy. They're starting
the peak at Thanksgiving and we come. We come on
this Eagles Talk on a two D radio. Here for
the fan, by the fan, and each week the list
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of concerns gets larger and larger and larger. That is
not indicative of a team that's going to contend in
January for a Lombardi Trophy. We're going to talk about
it as the hour progresses. We'll get everyone's opinion on
everything that's going on. Let's start with our pole question, Py,
(02:08):
the Eagles should promote Scott Lawfer. He is the QB
coach to offensive coordinator asap, Agree, disagree, Let us know
what you think in the comments, But Py, what say
you yes? Like?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
This has been my issue from day one with Kevin
pattouol Is. I don't like inside hires. I don't like
guys who share the exact same thoughts and philosophies as
the head coach, like Nick has an offensive strategy of
philosophy when it comes to the offense. So I like
when they bring in someone that has differing views like
(02:46):
Kellen Moore didn't exactly match him and you got to
see different things like he did a lot of emotion.
He likes shot like he you need that's who you need.
You need somebody who is going to chat Nick and
somebody who is going to be able to develop Nick's
system while also developing their own. That is not happening
(03:09):
with Kevin Patulo. Ken Patoole is just running the exact
same shit that that Nick values because he's Nick's crony. Unfortunately,
Waffler is an experienced play caller. Waffler is someone who
has been around the game for a very long time
and has been in the college rank, has been in
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the NFL at times throughout his history. Like he was
a head coach at Bowling Green. He has the experience
at Michigan. He has experience at all Born, He's been
a he's been a quarterbacks coach in other places, you
know what I mean. Like, he has experience and he
knows what to do. Like Kevin patulloh is just one
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of those situations where kind of similar to Brian Johnson,
we pulled the trig or too early. But I think
at least with Brian Johnson you could look at it
and be like, all right, cool. He was at Florida,
he called plays like he kind of had an idea
of what to do and when to do it. He
just had issues with it. Patools having the executive issues.
The problem is he's learning on the job and look,
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if we didn't win the Super Bowl last year, you
could make an argument that, you know what, I'm okay
with him learning on the job. This was not the
year to do this. Hiring an inexperienced head coach was
not a smart decision. And it's something that I put
it's we can say it. Nick found the table for it.
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But Jeffrey Vellerie and Hallie Roseman okayed this. They were
fine with this decision. They saw what happened in twenty
twenty three when you basically had children running the asylum
with the inexperienced guys running systems, and twenty twenty three
like and everyone wants to bring up, oh, you know,
if you don't do it, he might be hired elsewhere.
(05:04):
Nobody was hiring Patula. That wasn't happening. And I also hear, oh, well,
you know, there wasn't really anyone to hire. There was nobody.
Everyone else was taken. You hired Scott Lawfler. You could like,
Scott Laffer's experience and resume is of that someone who
you could have hired to be your offensive coordinator. Like,
(05:26):
they didn't interview anybody. They just gave Patullo the job
because well, he's been in the building, Like I don't care, Like,
give me let's Scott Lawfler call plays. Let me see
what he can do. Let me see if this offense
looks any different, Like, let me see maybe his finger
could be on the poles a little bit better. Maybe
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he knows what could work and what might not work
with this offense moving forward, because what I know right
now it doesn't work with Kevin Patullo. One thing he
does know how to adjust everything is the exact same thing.
When he's in trouble, he cost the same crap. When
it's going well, he costs the same crap. Like the
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only time it works out to his favorite is when
Jalen just says screw it and figures everything out on
his own. Like at this point, I don't care, Like
I'm done with a tool. I've been right along. Like
all I heard was, Oh, you're you're too harsh on them.
(06:30):
You know what, I wasn't harsh enough, Like I I
understand we all wanted to like give this guy a chance,
but like it's just it's done, Like you need to
make a change. If the Lions are willing to do
it this deep in the season, why can't Eagles. I
don't want cerioan any calm plays. But I one hundred
percent and think why because he's not good at it?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
When did would Sirianni do?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Then he's a CEO head coach.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, that's a bunch of ship. That's not does it's
not flying. It's not that's not flying tonight. It is,
though head coach.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He's a CEO coach. It is we've seen when he
has experienced play callers in the building that allow him
to do what he does best. We have success throwing
in an experienced play caller who doesn't know is his
left hand from his right hand, his ass from his elbow?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Say it?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, fine, his ass from his elbow. It doesn't help. Yeah,
it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be I'm hot on the
dump button tonight so that little kids watching that this
ain't gonna be the episode of Eagles taught for you,
because I'm fucking pissed. Because you know what, Nick Sirianni,
I don't really care who the offensive coordinator is. If
you want to promote law for to be the offensive
coordinator and then put the two the closet, I don't
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really care Nick Sirianni. This is his mess because he
hired his buddy and it's not work in So Nick Sirianni,
who was brought in from the Colts as an offensive
head coach, he needs to take the bull by the
horns and clean up his mess. Nick Sirianni one thousand
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needs to call plays. I don't know Scott Lofer from
from Scott Hanson. I have no idea who this guy
is other than his Wikipedia page online. He could be worse.
I do like I do like the kick. Kevin Patulo
can at least script something to start the game. I mean,
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I can't believe we're sitting here talking about a loss
when they jumped out the twenty one point lead like that. Yep,
absolutely absolutely unacceptable. This is Nick Sirianni's mess. Nick Sirianni
needs to call it, needs to clean it up. Nick
Sirianni needs to grab the play chart and the headset
and call the offense for the rest of the season.
(08:58):
I'm done with talking about Scott law for I'm done
talking about Kevin Petullo Nick's mess. Nick can be the janitor.
Is that part of the CEO CEO the janitor is
that under the CEO, because that's what this is. This
team is not going anywhere. They're not winning anything. We
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come on this show every week, every week, and the
list just gets longer on what's concerning and longer and
longer and longer, and now it's to the point where
the only positive I can really talk about to be
positive on this show is Nakobe Dean's playing with his
hair on fire. That's all I got for you from
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a positive standpoint. Everything else is bad. So Nick Sirianni
needs to step to the head of the line, and
he needs to clean up his mess because he hired
his buddy, Kevin Petullo and it's not working and I'm done,
So Nick Sirianni, clock's ticket, buddy. Let's bring in our buddy,
Les Bowen lest My patience is gone. I told you
(10:09):
when it goes, it's gonna go, and my patience is gone.
That was garbage.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yesterday to make excuses for Patullo. This is what you get.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of agree with both of you.
I don't care. I don't think you need to make
Scott left for the offensive coordinator, but try letting him
call plays for a week and see how it goes,
you know, I can't as as as you both said,
(10:40):
I think it can't go any worse. I don't know
what you really do as far as Nick calling plays,
Rob Nick gave that up early in his tenure because
he wasn't very good at it. And I kind of
think the problem with Petullo or one of the is
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that he is Nick. You know, I think these are
the plays that Nick would call. Net we're calling plays
and uh so, I don't know about that. I don't
know about having Nick call the plays just out of spite.
I'd like to see them get better at this, you know,
I don't know if the answer is Leffler. I don't
know if it's to bring in someone from the outside.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Just Chip, No Chip, pleaset's have some fun.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, somebody did that when when the Raiders fired Chip
last night. Somebody did that little meme. Where Lord, I've
seen what you've done for others. You know.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That guy. That guy's a loser. I don't want him
anywhere near. Yeah, I don't care how bad. I don't
care how bad the offense.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But Tool is a loser too, So what's the difference.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
No, But I just can't Yesterday was fascinating in that
it was the starkest example I think we've seen of
the problem right now is that he can, as you said, Rob,
he can script really well. I mean their first three
series were really well done. You know, they were doing
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all kinds of different stuff and throwing different places and
they couldn't run even then, but you know they were
moving up and down the field and scoring and Dallas
made a few adjustments and it was like, oh, well
we're done for the day. Sorry, that just can't happen.
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It can't. You can't play like that. And I know
there were Sirianni wants to say it's a little bit
of this and a little bit of that, and no,
I mean, yeah, when you're saying stuff like that, and
I have a piece coming out on PHL Why tomorrow
that will say this. When you're saying stuff like that,
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when everybody used to bring nobody's to blame, you know,
it's it's a it's a it's a dodge of fixing
anything when you say, well, sometimes it's this and sometimes
it's that. No, you figure out what the main problem
is and you solve that and then you work on
the secondary problems. You don't just oh, well, we've got
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to clean up this and that and this other thing
over here, and we'll get around to it. In a note,
I I'm as exasperated with Nick as I am with
I'm right there with your petula.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Frankly, I don't even think I don't even think the
offensive coordinators is the main the main source of.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm more angry with Hallie about the Patula situation that
I am with Nick.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well, because that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, it's not. It's not because look, Nick is has
or the little cachet to maybe bring in his friend
or whatever. But you've already seen this situation, You've seen
it played out, and you know you need to you
want to repeat as a super Bowl champion. And your
thought process is, we're just we're okaying him just bringing
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in his friend and not interviewing a single solitary soul.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Well, yeah, but he wasn't bringing him in. He was
already here, he was already here. They thought very highly,
I think thought very highly of him. And you have this,
year in and year out, you have this thing that's
always on the graphic when the season starts, about how
many different offensive coordinators or play callers Jalen Hurts has had.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
To hearing that.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'm sick of hearing that too.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Me too. But it's still true though.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And you don't loses his offensive coordinator every every coaching cycle.
This guy loses his offensive coordinator. He's back in the
playoffs every year.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I mean, what is that done for Baker Baker Mayfield?
What what is what is that accomplished for him?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I don't really see Baker winning a whole lot of championships.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But the.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You bring in somebody from way outside after winning the
Super Bowl, I can see not being enthusiastic about that.
I can thinking that maybe you have someone who can
just keep things going. They weren't running Kellen Moore's offense
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last year. They were running Nick Sirianni's offense as they
are today, and you know, it's just a matter of
being able to sequence the plays and adjust to things,
you know, within the concepts of this fairly limited offense. Frankly,
bringing in somebody from way outside you to go through
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the whole Kellen Moore thing again, where everybody thought they
were going to be running a different offense. At about
six games into the season, we figured out, no, they're
really not doing that are they, you know, and that
guy's not going to stay because he's not running his offense.
He's running Nick's offense.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But like, are you are you guys really trying to
tell me that, Like Howie Roseman didn't put the stamp
of approval on this, he did.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
For doing it, I think, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, if Nick thought he was good and and how
he thought he was bad, Kevin Batula wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Right, Yeah, I don't think anyone thought he was bad,
but he'd never called play.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It was this safe choice. And I think my main
issue with it is if you want to throw out
that he's in experience, yeah, sure, okay. If the main
thing is he's in the building already, I'm like, okay,
that's another thing. My main issue with it is the
fact that you didn't look at anybody else. If Kevin.
If they interviewed three people and Kevin Batula was one
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of those three people, Let's say they interviewed Scott love
Point and he interviewed one more random guy even some
of the just to satisfy a Rooney rule, or you know,
just because maybe he's also in the building or whatever.
They you know, like whoever I can at least and
(17:13):
they then they picked Kevin Patula. You could have at
least looked at it and be like, okay. So we
interviewed three guys, and of those three guys, we liked
Kevin the most. I would have been okay with that.
But they didn't even do that. They're just like, oh,
it's your job. Here you go.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, that's a good point because some comments here. Keep
them coming, get through them, let it out, let it out.
This is a let it out edition of the.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Let it Out Enough Today.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Eagles fire kp need a new offensive coordinator. Sorry, there's
little gee Griffith. I'm a big fan of the Eagle season.
Better Eagle, I mean they Yeah, they need a win
on Fridays.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Is on the hole come Friday? Sorry boys, Yeah, you got.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
To really see this thing Friday. I mean, what if
they lose this?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, where are you then? And there's been We're all
really tired of hearing about this when.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm expecting a loss. I don't think. I just looked
on Draft Kings. They're favored by seven points.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, team.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Over a good team.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
The Bears have actually been outscored, I believe while going
eight and three, which is kind of hard to do.
But right now, I mean, with the way this offense
is is not functioning, and you're gonna have one of
those either Sydney Brown or that Carter guy that ran
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into Quinny and Mitchell on a crucial play Sunday, You're
gonna have one of those two guys starting at safety. Uh. Yeah,
it's a tough It's gonna be a tough game, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
A little Griffin. Yeah, I'm not talking about the draft.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Sorry, sorry, Buddyeah, we're too it's not there.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Not talking about the draft and Georgia, it's not really
all that this year.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
They're not the best team the.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Peak not a college footballer, but they're starting to peak
at the right time.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Less Georgia is okay, I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Scott Loafer offensive, Sure I have. After yesterday's game, I
have way more problems with Nick Sirianni than I do
anyone the Scott or like. Nick Sirianni was garbage yesterday, garbage.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
The point after the game. Did you catch where he
said that it was uncharacteristic of them to take so
many penalties.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
No, it's who this team is based the.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Track of the stats from week to week. Every week
in penalties, and almost all of them are offense. Very few.
The defensive ones often are bad calls, you know. The
offensive wines usually are pretty good calls. There was one
bad offensive call yesterday on Jurgens. They claimed that his head,
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that his movement of his head was. It wasn't at
all abrupt. It was, you know, him just looking to
the side in a normal way. But but nonetheless the others,
the one onton uh Prior that erased the Dallas Goddard
game was just inexcusable. You just can't. You can't have
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that guy on the field. He hasn't done anything right
all year. You know, he use somebody from the practice
squad who knows where to line up.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Honestly, from a personnel standpoint, the offensive line is the
major issue with this team they have. Yes, so now
you got you got the wrong Johnson out there at
right tackle.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Now, yeah, well he had a heat a tough day.
He had a real have.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
A tough day. But I mean all back up and.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah we allreds. Fred's a gamer and all that, but
he was awful yesterday.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It was really Eilerstein was awful again yesterday. You know,
and I think a lot is having a horrible season.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So are we allowed to like bring up Jeff Staltlin, Like,
are we allowed like there are questions about the job
he's done this year. He's gone, I get it, Like
he's phenomenal when he brings out the best in everyone.
He also they also have he's also the run game
coordinator and the run game is atrocious. He's the offensive
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linement coach. The old line this year is atrocious. And
he doesn't give interviews. And I'm not saying I'm not
trying to like what you want him to do. It's
the ego.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Don't make him available is the is the problem. It's
not him not giving interviews, it's the Eagles don't have
to make him available but a couple of times a year,
and they don't, you know, they just don't want you
talking to anybody that they they don't have to let
you talk to.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What is he supposed to do? Though, guys like I
would like Jim on the Joe's not the x'es and
the O's like the team that the personnel is not
good enough, they're not playing good enough.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I can't where is he not like scheving things correctly, like,
I think it's more more likely the players, but I
would like to hear stall.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I would like this.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Thing today Today's big issue on talk radio, and then
in Syri's press conference it was also brought up. Was
the contention from landon Dickerson that they hadn't really practiced
against five man.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Fre and then he walked it back and he looked stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Dickerson walked it back.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
He walked it back, he walked it back.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, you know, he said it, and I believe usually
I believe what the person says the first time on that,
and Siriani went through one of his mealy mouthed, well,
we did this and we did that, and you will yeah,
looking back, would you rather have had a few more
reps against that? Yeah? You would? You know in hindsight,
(23:20):
blah blah blah. You know, No, everybody knew five man
Front was going to be their focus with Quinn Williams.
And if the Eagles didn't know that, there's that's just ludicrous,
that's absurd. Stotlin has to get these guys ready to play,
and he has to make determinations like if Dickerson or
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Jurgens really isn't able to play effectively.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You can't play him somebody else.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You're not doing the team any good.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Bret has looked good the last few weeks. Like before,
Jurgens is just not healthy. He's not and you keep
running him out there, and you're ran Lane out there
when he wasn't ready.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And they're gonna do that again with Lane.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
They have not Ris.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
There was this big story over the weekend about how
he's not getting surgery. They're not going to do it
this week, but very soon, especially if they lose to Chicago,
Lane's going to be running out there on one leg,
trying to save the season. You mark my words. You know.
It's just it's and Stallin does need to I wish
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the Eagles would make him available. I'm sure he's a
very stand up guy. In my conversations over the years
with them, I think he would talk about what's wrong
and what he hasn't been able to do.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But we don't want to get it, John Addick. He
wants to hire a consultant or make them work together.
You are exactly right. I said, it's Sunday, just like Nick,
get a lead and kill the clock. Even if they
score twenty one unanswered. The problem is they can't block,
they can't.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Run, you know, they can't.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I think a secondary concern is Saquon Barkley does not
have the same bursts as he did last year, does
not have the same elusiveness as he did last year. Look,
I mean, I think we all talked about it preseason,
like he's not going for two grand again? Like, but
I mean, is it the line? Is it him? It's
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probably a little of both. The only time he got
an open in the open field yesterday and got galloping,
he got chased down from behind and fumbled the football.
It can't happen. It can't happen.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well, he had kind of stopped to to, you know,
make a cut.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Or he can't put it on the carpet like that.
How hard he got hit?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Oh yeah, I know. But that's the only fumbles all season.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I understand that. I'm trying it, well, the other guy
I also have. I also have a punt returner fielding
the football at the one yard line and trying to
run sideways east west, not north and south, gets pop
and puts it on the ground. Now I can can
I get mad at that? I'm gonna get mad at that.
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I know the defense stood strong and the Dallas didn't
get any points.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But you don't need that guy. You know, he's not that.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Good on the team.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
If he's on the team Friday.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, well he's not going to play. I mean, he's hurt,
so I don't know if he's going to be on
the team, but he's not gonna.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You can't cut him when he's hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Rights, Yeah, okay, but yeah, that's Michael Clay, the special
teams guy. You know, they do some good things on
special teams, but they do some awful things on special
teams as well.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He's a net, he's a net negative and the negative.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
The awful things are mental, you know, they're never, it's never.
The awful things aren't that they don't have enough talent,
it's that they do something stupid. Took a penalty yesterday,
which I don't think he's gone a game without taking
a penalty, I believe.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I mean, they seem to not have been able to
grasp how these new kickoff fools work twelve and it's
week twelve. Yeah, yeah, this team is poorly coached.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It is.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I would put I would put Jalens as a as
a positive. Yesterday too, I thought he played well.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I keep seeing people.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
The third was awful.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
It was, but you shouldn't have put him in that position.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Absolutely, yes, it's third and two. I don't give a
ship run two push pushes. You've seen the Dallas Goddard
play a billion times where he runs and he throws
it to him. It literally worked earlier in the game.
Why can't you do that right? And if you want
to play nobody really.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Do a million things rather than drop back, five step
drop and try to throw downfield.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
That they did fifty times before that. Yep, yeah, uh,
Bob Brickman, maybe we can get Pat Shermer in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, what well, pets pets They Pat's a great guy.
I like him. I hope he's not watching.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Are you trying? Are you trying to make me off
myself live on air?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
What I'm reading the passed his cell by date in
the NFL these days? I think.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
He can't be any worse.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well, whether we give it, Mike.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Sure, I want anyone who can help what whose guys
ain't help it?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Who did you say, I said, Mike grow.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Look Mike grow.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Nick Sirianni did. He's the CEO had coach the team
was unprepared to play yesterday. Kevin Bottolo has been the
offensive coordinator for twelve weeks now, and it's not it's
not working out. I'm watching the same plays. I'm watching
the same stinky plays with the same stinky role combinations.
No run game. That's not working. Uh are the Eagle
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special teams has been horrendous. That's another coaching Like coaching.
This team is poorly.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Coached, except for the defense.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, and oh, they didn't play. They didn't play great yesterday.
Dallas Hunt you see that Hunt No called no show.
Jordan Davis no called no shows. I haven't seen Jalen
Carter make a play in weeks.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, I think Dallas is really good in the middle
of their offensive line. But I thought they played. Here
is the problem yesterday, seventy four snaps the whole second half.
The defense was on the field. You can't do that
to your defense. You get people hurt. You lost three
players during the second half, you know, and by the
end they were holding it. But they stopped Dallas twice
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on fourth down for the love of God, you know,
I mean, and the offense just couldn't pick it up
at all, just couldn't make anything out of that. I
think Fangio does a tremendous job. I think the position
coaches are really good on defense. I just wish they
had they could spread that around a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Frankly, goat Stature eighty two sixty three. I thought the
offense functioned pretty well early. I mean, he's right about
the penalties.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
They have some bad penalties. But I also think we
went away in true Patulo fashion, we went away from
what was working.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah. Well, the second second, this guy gets a curveball
thrown at him. Yeah, where it's not something that they
talked about where anticipated on Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday. He's lost.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Kevin Patullo is the guy from Trouble with the curve
where he knows it's coming and he still can't hit it.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
What they did apparently, and god knows, I'm the least
X and O proficient person here, but they took away
that they were getting a lot out of the slants
to A. J. Brown and across the middle, and they
just started playing inside leverage on AJ Brown and all
of a sudden, the Eagles had no offense.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Sh what's that? John Malmos twenty five seventy one them
all for sitting Steen, Drew Kendall, Tyler Steen. And if
someone can explain to me that knows the nuances of
offensive line play is and why the right guard Tyler
Stein is literally standing straight up with his hand in
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the air until the ball is snapped. Somebody explain that
to me, because it's.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Going to be it's a silent count thing.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
He I mean, I'm not an expert at offensive line
points is explaining it?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
No, I'm not an expert either, But and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Doesn't that hinder Doesn't that hinder his ability to block
a three hundred pound Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
It certainly does. And I have never understood in all
my years of covering this crap, what is a false start?
And what is it? You got one guy turned around
like this, like you said, with his hand in the air.
Another guy can't turn his head. I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I don't know. It's such a frustrating Greg Melokovic's in
the house. John Almos looked happy, he got happy.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Didn't look happy stop in the first half when the
offense was cooking. Look happy he was.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Even after the game he wasn't happy. No, you know,
let's not I mean, I'm not. There are things that
I fought AJ four, But let's not get crazy here.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Uh used to be you never feel it inside the fox.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That's pretty much the rule.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, that thing drop who cares?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't want you touching it.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, unless it's an eighty yard punt and the opposing
team is still forty yards away from.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
You, exactly, But that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
John Malmos can't do it to a toush push when
you're playing with a backup tagle, right, card.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I mean you can. You literally did it.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
You did it. You're a touchdown. It worked really well.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
So so you're you're telling me they couldn't get two
yards on the toush bush.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
For two yards?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, like what was it?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yard and a half? Most likely that's what you needed.
It's bull Like, I'm sorry, it's ball.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I think you have a better chance of doing that
than the drop back pass.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Rob. This is what happens when your offense is always
three in punt, the defense is on the field way
too long, and now they're all getting hurt. Read blank
and Chip left the game, and Dorry Jackson left the game.
Andrew mccooba left the game.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And Macouba's really bad injury happened right near the end
when they were running snaps that they should not have
been out there for. You know, the offense should have
been on the field running the clock down.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Update on him, Oh.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
A broken broken ankle, he's probably done.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
He's done.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And then Cooper dejene went to go play outside corner
when Dorri jacks And that's what Cooper does, not play
outside corner way.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
He's a jealous.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He might be able to if with a full off
season of work there, but he's not there right now.
And that's.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Ast he got doll walked by George Pickens. Yes, and
then you got the other idiot from the Jets running
into quinne On Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And he's new here. You give him, let him try again.
If he does it again, then but somebody's got to
play there. I don't want to see Sidney Brown. That
guy is an idiot. You know that he's terrible. But
the point there about the three in point I was
I saw today that the Eagles are running three and
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outs at a higher rate than any team in the
NFL since the Raiders in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
How is that it makes no sense to man, is
that JaMarcus Russell? Is that the JaMarcus Russell Raiders?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
No, No, it would be after JaMarcus, but it would
the Raiders have been bad for twenty one.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Who is the guy the Browns cover from QB to
quarterback to a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean Trell Pryor, Yeah, that's who is quarterback?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Then I think, okay, yeah, probably so yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And they're eight and three somehow somehow.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, because they have a tremendous load of talent. But
like you said, Rob poorly coached.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I'm starting to now put credence into the twenty twenty
three comparisons.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
You know, I got we all got sick of it
early on, and everybody thought they had put that to
bed with those two wins, after the two losses. But
if they lose Friday, yeah, it's it's twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It's just it's just gonna be. I mean, twenty twenty three,
Well it was a defensive collapse.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, I was gonna say, it looks a little different,
but it's the same vibe, same bs, you know, from
the coach.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
And I'm not I'm not I'm not in on the
Jalen Hurts his Carson Wentz two point zero. I'm still
very much out on that.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It's one of the most ridiculous statements.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
It's not he's not. Jalen Hurts is such a good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, but the thing locker rooms are weird. There's so
many people in there that on any team, there's guys
that are just sip shits, you know, and they'll they're
jealous and they're petty, and you don't want too many
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of those guys. But everybody team has some of them.
And when things go bad, they they're like cockroaches. They
find their way out. You know. It's uh, there's no
way around it.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's never one guy that who was that one guy
they had a couple of years ago he played defensive
back and he got cut and then here.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Talking about that Yes, king cockroach right there.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yes, Now we got cockroaches in the locker room. We
got a head coach who can't figure it out anything.
Somebody tell me something good that I can right home
in this game coming up against the Bears.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Davonte Smith is really good.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, Devonte Smith is a man.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Tell us god there is also playing really well this year,
but they can't get him the ball.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Because they can't block.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I think Hurts will really try Friday to rally the ship,
to write the ship.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I don't know, as he's as long as he's my cornerback,
Yeah I will. I will truly believe that he will
find a way to figure this out. Because if you
will get twenty three like it wasn't because he couldn't
figure it out. As a leader, you can't. You can't
make up every week you score thirty, the defense gives
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up forty two, Like that's just there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Absolutely, yes, I agree.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So as long as I have one, I always have
a shot.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
So basically where we're at right now is either Jalen
Hurts is going to be Jalen Hurts and they're gonna win,
or they're screwed.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, the Bears have a bunch of injuries. I think
all their linebackers are injured, including TJ. Edwards, the former Eagle.
So they're running practice squad guys out there at linebackers.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
But surely we'll target that less.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Surely yeah, who knows, but surely.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You'll be using slants with AJ Brown against these practice
Wie ought to.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Be able to score points on the Bears. The danger
is Caleb Williams can also score points. But you know,
you ought to be able to score points on the Bears.
We just haven't seen it. Other than that one Giants game,
the revenge game, we have not seen a team that consistently,
even that Vikings game. You know Carson Wentz set them
up to score points. Yes, they did, and that was
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kind of a little bit of what was happening Sunday.
Everybody's talking about the twenty one nothing lead and you're
blowing these guys out of the water. If you looked
at the stats, they weren't really blowing them out of
the water. They got the ball at the fifty when
Dallas went for it on fourth and three on their
first possession and didn't make it. Then they got the fumble. Well,
(40:13):
then they got the reprieve on the blocked punt that
was called roughing the punter, which shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
That was a horrible call.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, So then they scored on that eventually, and then
they had the running back just dropped the ball when
he tripped over his own linemen and they got turpin.
They got set up for the third touchdown that way.
They didn't really at halftime. The stats were pretty even.
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It was twenty one to seven, but the first downs
in the yardage were dead even, and you knew they
needed to come out in the second half and really play.
And they got the ball and they had that ridiculous
They had a twenty yard play to God that was
called back because Pryor was in as an extra offensive
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lineman and was not supposed to be lined up on
the line of scrimmage and was and it all unraveled
from there. You know, it's so typical of them and
what they do these days, and how they can't master basics.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I'm baffled at their seven point favorites on Friday. Baffled.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I don't think anybody thinks that the Bears haven't beaten anybody,
and I don't think anybody thinks the Bears are really good.
But but yeah, would I think at seven, No, I
would not.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I don't think the Eagles should be favored by seven
over Bucks County Community College right now. They will find
a way. They will find a way, This edition of
the Philadelphia Eagles will find a way to make it
harder than it has to be.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yes, yeah, oh yeah, but that's a tool awesome it's
in a nutshell square sixty square peg round hole.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
So sixty three total yards on the ground yesterday. Yep.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, they could not run it. I've never seen. And
we had some there were some bad offensive lines here,
like you know, the late Andy years, the early Chip years.
They had some injuries. They'd be bringing in guys off
the street to play guard. They could run block better
than this. I have never seen anything quite like this,
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I really haven't.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I mean, sixty three yards in sixty minutes of football.
That's not going to get it done at a championship level,
right Other than Jalen Hurts, what about this team is
championship caliber right now? I guess you could say the defense,
but it's all banged up now. Yeah, I don't know
(42:54):
what we're I don't know what we're going to be getting.
Jayleen Carter is doing himself no favors in these ones
and wanting to be the highest paid defensive player in
the league. Campaign him and his agent are gonna are
gonna be campaigning for after this season. Oh yeah, without question,
(43:17):
I guess we lost less. All right. We'll see if
he hops back on. But I'm just I'm just I'm disappointed.
I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed today because I I hate when
I'm patient and give people the benefit of the doubt
(43:38):
and they make me look silly. I tell this team.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Is doing tried then, I tried.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Sorry for those I tried to adjust the angle of
my screen now.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
But but I I just like, but I don't want
to live like that, and I don't want to be
firing an offensive coordinator three games into the season either.
I don't want to be like that either. But when
I give someone the benefit of the doubt, and this
goes for Nick Siriani as well, because he's he's the CEO,
head coach and his company is burning to the ground
(44:12):
right now. Yeah, I'm just I'm very I'm very irritated,
as you should be. Yes, Anyway, I don't see. I mean, like,
this team's gonna have to play the Rams at some
point again. Yeah, maybe they Leagles won't make it that far.
I know the Rams are gonna make it that far.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, they probably will. But I mean, the one thing
on your side is that you consistently have beaten the Rams.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
This team, the addition of the team that I've seen
the past three weeks, is in no way shape or
for beating the Rams in a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
I mean, but we see it in the playoffs all
the time, Like just because you're the better team doesn't
mean you're going to win.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
No, because we do this with the Phillies everything. No, no, no, no, no,
no no. Listen, we do this every single year. Everyone
just assumes that, oh they can't hit now, they're just
gonna get hot in October.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
And what happens in the NFL the big stage.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
P Why the big stage? P Why it extrapolates your
weaknesses not makes them better.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
There are some upsets in the first round, but I
don't see teams getting to the super Bowl that they
don't deserve to be there most of the time.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Like, I don't think Tampa's beating the Eagles, even though
I'm pissed off tonight, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Tampa's quarterbacks heard, I don't know that they're making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I heard there was good news on his MRI, so yeah,
he's okay. But like the Niners are playing right now,
not very well.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Three interceptions early.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Like I don't think I don't think the Niners are
beating the Eagles in a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Are they not? Just even making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
I don't know. I guess we'll see who's standing when
when the top seven are determined, Like Seattle, are they
beating the Eagles?
Speaker 3 (46:08):
They probably could beat maybe.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Who knows right now? Probably, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
This is the like just it's just depressing and it's frustrating.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
We need to like every time I think, okay, like
this is the worst the Packers game, this is the worst.
They're gonna come out against the Lions and it's gonna
look better, and then it's the Simpsons.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Meme, it's the worst day of your life so far.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
And then and then and then they come out against
the Lions and they look even worse. And then they
go and it's like, okay, like it was cold, it
was windy, the Lions are pretty good. We're gonna go
down to Dallas and we're gonna get it right. And
now this is the worst. Each week, it's the worst
they've ever looked, so like, where's the bottom here.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
That's a good point. I don't know, that's the twenty
three comparison right there. You know they just kept before too.
They lost to some good teams. If you remember how
it went, they got really beaten up badly by a
couple of good teams, and then they just started losing
to everybody because they just kind of knew they weren't
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going to get there.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I guess the silver lining is they have eight wins.
They have the Raiders on their schedule, and they have
the Commanders twice on their schedule. Yep, eight plus three
is eleven and six. Yeah, that's going to win you
the division and get you a home game, I think, yeah,
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unless Dallas just really gets hot.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Here, I don't know there are they They think they're
playing the lines in Chiefs the next two weeks.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Aren't They have the Chiefs on Thursday? They have Thanksgiving Day,
they have the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, there's no way, there's no I think maybe they split,
but like that's that's that's like a winning scenario for them.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
And what's Dallas's record again? They're five and four, right,
five four and one five.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah? Five five in one?
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah, so they split those. There's six six in one
and then there's what four games left? I guess it
depends who they play. They got the Giants again. I
think I don't think they've played the Have they played
the Commanders yet? I don't think they've played the Commanders.
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I'm assuming they beat them. Dallas would have to give
the game that Jayden got hurt, right anyway, Dallas is
going to have to really get hot here.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, Dallas, and we we need to self implode, which
is that's under that's underway. Yeah yeah, but like I
mean worse.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I have no confidence that this team can do anything
positive over a sixty minute football game right now.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah. Yeah. The idea of them really putting together a
solid win against anybody where there's no you know, where
they're ahead by a couple of touchdowns in the fourth
quarter and there's no hint of anything bad happening. I
just can't imagine it right now. I really can't.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Carter Anderson Hurts holds the ball on the ball too long.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
He does, but that's also because nobody's open.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah. They also run stupid routes, you know that runs.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
They run garbage routes where nobody's open and available, and
he's like, what do I do?
Speaker 1 (49:48):
There are times when he could try to fit it
into a win. He doesn't.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
But that's not far between this season. Less five on
the list of the time this season holding on the
ball too long because there is not a single soul open.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, Jalen Hurts is at his best when he drops
back and zips it somewhere when he when he But that's.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Another puttool issue. If you look like they are getting
that that play to the line too late.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Right, that happens a lot.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah, they were rushing out in the first because that
ball was coming out within the first ten seconds. The
play was already available in the first ten seconds in
the first half, and the second half it went on
too long.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Agree, all right?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Closing thoughts, They got the Bears coming up on Black Friday.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, I think this will tell you a lot, really,
even though the Bears aren't that good. I think if
the Eagles lose this then we're in free fall. I mean,
anything can happen if the Eagles lose this game. If
they win it, they back into another win like they
have the two weeks before the Dallas game. It doesn't
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really tell you that much. I guess it's just more
of the you're stumbling along.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
I'm done, I'm done with the style points. You just
need to figure out way more points than the Bears
on Friday.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
According to nothing or something, then maybe okay, you start
to think, Okay, they actually took this seriously and looked
inside themselves and you know, did something.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
But not I think they take it seriously the last
I think there's so much going wrong. They just don't
know what to do. Yeah, they don't know where to start, right,
It's quick sand I'll reiterate my point. I can't believe
this football team is favored by seven points in an
NFL game after what I've watched the last three weeks. Yeah,
(52:02):
this team is not a contender at the current moment.
They're not winning any spresident, They're not winning anything. I
hope they can get it together enough to get a win,
because if this looks bad, the the fans are going
to be no one's gonna have work except me, So
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everyone's gonna be drinking, everyone's gonna be booing, and it's
going to get ugly down there at the stadium.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
So I do I do have one non bears closing
thought because my manager at work brought this up to me,
and I hadn't even thought about it until he brought
it up. Whose idea was it to do Kelly Green
on the road? Yeah, I didn't like, we're tempting fate
(52:53):
just a switch.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
National TV game. I guess they wanted everybody to see
it and buy the jerseys. Uh, but yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't wear Kelly Green in.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Dallas, the white one. Why can't we wear the white
ones with the Kelly green helmet.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
That would be cool.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, that's a great that's a great jersey. You get
the get the gray pants with the Kelly green stripe,
you get the white top and then the Kelly green helmet.
That's the best, the best uniform they have. But what
do I know? Everyone likes the Kelly Green and they
can make money off of it. So that's the way.
(53:31):
That's the way it goes. Exasturbating being a fan of
this teams in the city. It's absolutely exascerb.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
It's a hard knock life.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yes, it can never just be once we and then
once once we think we got it and it's easy,
something happens. So they need to win the game on Friday,
they need to hopefully Dallas loses to Kansas City and
the Eagles can win. And that kind of degates what
happened yesterday and the standings. We all saw what happened.
(54:06):
Nothing that gates my eyes ever because I know what
I see. But from a standings perspective, maybe it could
be soften the blow a little bit.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
That would that would change you know a few things.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
This feels like a game that Dallas wins on Thanksgiving
at home. Yeah, and then they'll throw a clunker in
when they need it, but against Washington or the Giants
or something, they'll throw.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
It when they get to the playoffs. The Roar into
the playoffs and then lose to a really bad team.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
All right, Well that'll do it for this edition of
Eagles Talk. Les Bowen, Peter Young, I'm Rob Brinkman. Please
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can't even describe what I'm feeling after yesterday's loss. We
had penalties, we had turnovers, We had the poor offense,
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we had injuries on defense. The offensive line completely stinks.
You know, pee why I mean? Teams that want to
make a legitimate run at a Lombardi Trophy. They're starting
the peak at Thanksgiving and we come. We come on
this Eagles Talk on a two D radio. Here for
the fan, by the fan, and each week the list
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of concerns gets larger and larger and larger. That is
not indicative of a team that's going to contend in
January for a Lombardi Trophy. We're going to talk about
it as the hour progresses. We'll get everyone's opinion on
everything that's going on. Let's start with our pole question, Py,
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the Eagles should promote Scott Lawfer. He is the QB
coach to offensive coordinator asap, Agree, disagree, Let us know
what you think in the comments, But Py, what say
you yes? Like?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
This has been my issue from day one with Kevin
pattouol Is. I don't like inside hires. I don't like
guys who share the exact same thoughts and philosophies as
the head coach, like Nick has an offensive strategy of
philosophy when it comes to the offense. So I like
when they bring in someone that has differing views like
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Kellen Moore didn't exactly match him and you got to
see different things like he did a lot of emotion.
He likes shot like he you need that's who you need.
You need somebody who is going to chat Nick and
somebody who is going to be able to develop Nick's
system while also developing their own. That is not happening
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with Kevin Patulo. Ken Patoole is just running the exact
same shit that that Nick values because he's Nick's crony. Unfortunately,
Waffler is an experienced play caller. Waffler is someone who
has been around the game for a very long time
and has been in the college rank, has been in
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the NFL at times throughout his history. Like he was
a head coach at Bowling Green. He has the experience
at Michigan. He has experience at all Born, He's been
a he's been a quarterbacks coach in other places, you
know what I mean. Like, he has experience and he
knows what to do. Like Kevin patulloh is just one
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of those situations where kind of similar to Brian Johnson,
we pulled the trig or too early. But I think
at least with Brian Johnson you could look at it
and be like, all right, cool. He was at Florida,
he called plays like he kind of had an idea
of what to do and when to do it. He
just had issues with it. Patools having the executive issues.
The problem is he's learning on the job and look,
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if we didn't win the Super Bowl last year, you
could make an argument that, you know what, I'm okay
with him learning on the job. This was not the
year to do this. Hiring an inexperienced head coach was
not a smart decision. And it's something that I put
it's we can say it. Nick found the table for it.
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But Jeffrey Vellerie and Hallie Roseman okayed this. They were
fine with this decision. They saw what happened in twenty
twenty three when you basically had children running the asylum
with the inexperienced guys running systems, and twenty twenty three
like and everyone wants to bring up, oh, you know,
if you don't do it, he might be hired elsewhere.
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Nobody was hiring Patula. That wasn't happening. And I also hear, oh, well,
you know, there wasn't really anyone to hire. There was nobody.
Everyone else was taken. You hired Scott Lawfler. You could like,
Scott Laffer's experience and resume is of that someone who
you could have hired to be your offensive coordinator. Like,
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they didn't interview anybody. They just gave Patullo the job
because well, he's been in the building, Like I don't care, Like,
give me let's Scott Lawfler call plays. Let me see
what he can do. Let me see if this offense
looks any different, Like, let me see maybe his finger
could be on the poles a little bit better. Maybe
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he knows what could work and what might not work
with this offense moving forward, because what I know right
now it doesn't work with Kevin Patullo. One thing he
does know how to adjust everything is the exact same thing.
When he's in trouble, he cost the same crap. When
it's going well, he costs the same crap. Like the
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only time it works out to his favorite is when
Jalen just says screw it and figures everything out on
his own. Like at this point, I don't care, Like
I'm done with a tool. I've been right along. Like
all I heard was, Oh, you're you're too harsh on them.
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You know what, I wasn't harsh enough, Like I I
understand we all wanted to like give this guy a chance,
but like it's just it's done, Like you need to
make a change. If the Lions are willing to do
it this deep in the season, why can't Eagles. I
don't want cerioan any calm plays. But I one hundred
percent and think why because he's not good at it?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
When did would Sirianni do?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Then he's a CEO head coach.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, that's a bunch of ship. That's not does it's
not flying. It's not that's not flying tonight. It is,
though head coach.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He's a CEO coach. It is we've seen when he
has experienced play callers in the building that allow him
to do what he does best. We have success throwing
in an experienced play caller who doesn't know is his
left hand from his right hand, his ass from his elbow?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Say it?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, fine, his ass from his elbow. It doesn't help. Yeah,
it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be I'm hot on the
dump button tonight so that little kids watching that this
ain't gonna be the episode of Eagles taught for you,
because I'm fucking pissed. Because you know what, Nick Sirianni,
I don't really care who the offensive coordinator is. If
you want to promote law for to be the offensive
coordinator and then put the two the closet, I don't
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really care Nick Sirianni. This is his mess because he
hired his buddy and it's not work in So Nick Sirianni,
who was brought in from the Colts as an offensive
head coach, he needs to take the bull by the
horns and clean up his mess. Nick Sirianni one thousand
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needs to call plays. I don't know Scott Lofer from
from Scott Hanson. I have no idea who this guy
is other than his Wikipedia page online. He could be worse.
I do like I do like the kick. Kevin Patulo
can at least script something to start the game. I mean,
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I can't believe we're sitting here talking about a loss
when they jumped out the twenty one point lead like that. Yep,
absolutely absolutely unacceptable. This is Nick Sirianni's mess. Nick Sirianni
needs to call it, needs to clean it up. Nick
Sirianni needs to grab the play chart and the headset
and call the offense for the rest of the season.
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I'm done with talking about Scott law for I'm done
talking about Kevin Petullo Nick's mess. Nick can be the janitor.
Is that part of the CEO CEO the janitor is
that under the CEO, because that's what this is. This
team is not going anywhere. They're not winning anything. We
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come on this show every week, every week, and the
list just gets longer on what's concerning and longer and
longer and longer, and now it's to the point where
the only positive I can really talk about to be
positive on this show is Nakobe Dean's playing with his
hair on fire. That's all I got for you from
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a positive standpoint. Everything else is bad. So Nick Sirianni
needs to step to the head of the line, and
he needs to clean up his mess because he hired
his buddy, Kevin Petullo and it's not working and I'm done,
So Nick Sirianni, clock's ticket, buddy. Let's bring in our buddy,
Les Bowen lest My patience is gone. I told you
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when it goes, it's gonna go, and my patience is gone.
That was garbage.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yesterday to make excuses for Patullo. This is what you get.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of agree with both of you.
I don't care. I don't think you need to make
Scott left for the offensive coordinator, but try letting him
call plays for a week and see how it goes,
you know, I can't as as as you both said,
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I think it can't go any worse. I don't know
what you really do as far as Nick calling plays,
Rob Nick gave that up early in his tenure because
he wasn't very good at it. And I kind of
think the problem with Petullo or one of the is
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that he is Nick. You know, I think these are
the plays that Nick would call. Net we're calling plays
and uh so, I don't know about that. I don't
know about having Nick call the plays just out of spite.
I'd like to see them get better at this, you know,
I don't know if the answer is Leffler. I don't
know if it's to bring in someone from the outside.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Just Chip, No Chip, pleaset's have some fun.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, somebody did that when when the Raiders fired Chip
last night. Somebody did that little meme. Where Lord, I've
seen what you've done for others. You know.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That guy. That guy's a loser. I don't want him
anywhere near. Yeah, I don't care how bad. I don't
care how bad the offense.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But Tool is a loser too, So what's the difference.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
No, But I just can't Yesterday was fascinating in that
it was the starkest example I think we've seen of
the problem right now is that he can, as you said, Rob,
he can script really well. I mean their first three
series were really well done. You know, they were doing
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all kinds of different stuff and throwing different places and
they couldn't run even then, but you know they were
moving up and down the field and scoring and Dallas
made a few adjustments and it was like, oh, well
we're done for the day. Sorry, that just can't happen.
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It can't. You can't play like that. And I know
there were Sirianni wants to say it's a little bit
of this and a little bit of that, and no,
I mean, yeah, when you're saying stuff like that, and
I have a piece coming out on PHL Why tomorrow
that will say this. When you're saying stuff like that,
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when everybody used to bring nobody's to blame, you know,
it's it's a it's a it's a dodge of fixing
anything when you say, well, sometimes it's this and sometimes
it's that. No, you figure out what the main problem
is and you solve that and then you work on
the secondary problems. You don't just oh, well, we've got
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to clean up this and that and this other thing
over here, and we'll get around to it. In a note,
I I'm as exasperated with Nick as I am with
I'm right there with your petula.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Frankly, I don't even think I don't even think the
offensive coordinators is the main the main source of.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm more angry with Hallie about the Patula situation that
I am with Nick.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well, because that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, it's not. It's not because look, Nick is has
or the little cachet to maybe bring in his friend
or whatever. But you've already seen this situation, You've seen
it played out, and you know you need to you
want to repeat as a super Bowl champion. And your
thought process is, we're just we're okaying him just bringing
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in his friend and not interviewing a single solitary soul.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Well, yeah, but he wasn't bringing him in. He was
already here, he was already here. They thought very highly,
I think thought very highly of him. And you have this,
year in and year out, you have this thing that's
always on the graphic when the season starts, about how
many different offensive coordinators or play callers Jalen Hurts has had.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
To hearing that.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'm sick of hearing that too.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Me too. But it's still true though.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And you don't loses his offensive coordinator every every coaching cycle.
This guy loses his offensive coordinator. He's back in the
playoffs every year.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I mean, what is that done for Baker Baker Mayfield?
What what is what is that accomplished for him?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I don't really see Baker winning a whole lot of championships.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But the.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You bring in somebody from way outside after winning the
Super Bowl, I can see not being enthusiastic about that.
I can thinking that maybe you have someone who can
just keep things going. They weren't running Kellen Moore's offense
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last year. They were running Nick Sirianni's offense as they
are today, and you know, it's just a matter of
being able to sequence the plays and adjust to things,
you know, within the concepts of this fairly limited offense. Frankly,
bringing in somebody from way outside you to go through
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the whole Kellen Moore thing again, where everybody thought they
were going to be running a different offense. At about
six games into the season, we figured out, no, they're
really not doing that are they, you know, and that
guy's not going to stay because he's not running his offense.
He's running Nick's offense.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But like, are you are you guys really trying to
tell me that, Like Howie Roseman didn't put the stamp
of approval on this, he did.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
For doing it, I think, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, if Nick thought he was good and and how
he thought he was bad, Kevin Batula wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Right, Yeah, I don't think anyone thought he was bad,
but he'd never called play.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It was this safe choice. And I think my main
issue with it is if you want to throw out
that he's in experience, yeah, sure, okay. If the main
thing is he's in the building already, I'm like, okay,
that's another thing. My main issue with it is the
fact that you didn't look at anybody else. If Kevin.
If they interviewed three people and Kevin Batula was one
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of those three people, Let's say they interviewed Scott love
Point and he interviewed one more random guy even some
of the just to satisfy a Rooney rule, or you know,
just because maybe he's also in the building or whatever.
They you know, like whoever I can at least and
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they then they picked Kevin Patula. You could have at
least looked at it and be like, okay. So we
interviewed three guys, and of those three guys, we liked
Kevin the most. I would have been okay with that.
But they didn't even do that. They're just like, oh,
it's your job. Here you go.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, that's a good point because some comments here. Keep
them coming, get through them, let it out, let it out.
This is a let it out edition of the.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Let it Out Enough Today.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Eagles fire kp need a new offensive coordinator. Sorry, there's
little gee Griffith. I'm a big fan of the Eagle season.
Better Eagle, I mean they Yeah, they need a win
on Fridays.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Is on the hole come Friday? Sorry boys, Yeah, you got.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
To really see this thing Friday. I mean, what if
they lose this?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, where are you then? And there's been We're all
really tired of hearing about this when.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm expecting a loss. I don't think. I just looked
on Draft Kings. They're favored by seven points.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, team.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Over a good team.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
The Bears have actually been outscored, I believe while going
eight and three, which is kind of hard to do.
But right now, I mean, with the way this offense
is is not functioning, and you're gonna have one of
those either Sydney Brown or that Carter guy that ran
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into Quinny and Mitchell on a crucial play Sunday, You're
gonna have one of those two guys starting at safety. Uh. Yeah,
it's a tough It's gonna be a tough game, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
A little Griffin. Yeah, I'm not talking about the draft.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Sorry, sorry, Buddyeah, we're too it's not there.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Not talking about the draft and Georgia, it's not really
all that this year.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
They're not the best team the.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Peak not a college footballer, but they're starting to peak
at the right time.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Less Georgia is okay, I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Scott Loafer offensive, Sure I have. After yesterday's game, I
have way more problems with Nick Sirianni than I do
anyone the Scott or like. Nick Sirianni was garbage yesterday, garbage.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
The point after the game. Did you catch where he
said that it was uncharacteristic of them to take so
many penalties.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
No, it's who this team is based the.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Track of the stats from week to week. Every week
in penalties, and almost all of them are offense. Very few.
The defensive ones often are bad calls, you know. The
offensive wines usually are pretty good calls. There was one
bad offensive call yesterday on Jurgens. They claimed that his head,
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that his movement of his head was. It wasn't at
all abrupt. It was, you know, him just looking to
the side in a normal way. But but nonetheless the others,
the one onton uh Prior that erased the Dallas Goddard
game was just inexcusable. You just can't. You can't have
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that guy on the field. He hasn't done anything right
all year. You know, he use somebody from the practice
squad who knows where to line up.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Honestly, from a personnel standpoint, the offensive line is the
major issue with this team they have. Yes, so now
you got you got the wrong Johnson out there at
right tackle.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Now, yeah, well he had a heat a tough day.
He had a real have.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
A tough day. But I mean all back up and.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah we allreds. Fred's a gamer and all that, but
he was awful yesterday.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It was really Eilerstein was awful again yesterday. You know,
and I think a lot is having a horrible season.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So are we allowed to like bring up Jeff Staltlin, Like,
are we allowed like there are questions about the job
he's done this year. He's gone, I get it, Like
he's phenomenal when he brings out the best in everyone.
He also they also have he's also the run game
coordinator and the run game is atrocious. He's the offensive
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linement coach. The old line this year is atrocious. And
he doesn't give interviews. And I'm not saying I'm not
trying to like what you want him to do. It's
the ego.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Don't make him available is the is the problem. It's
not him not giving interviews, it's the Eagles don't have
to make him available but a couple of times a year,
and they don't, you know, they just don't want you
talking to anybody that they they don't have to let
you talk to.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What is he supposed to do? Though, guys like I
would like Jim on the Joe's not the x'es and
the O's like the team that the personnel is not
good enough, they're not playing good enough.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I can't where is he not like scheving things correctly, like,
I think it's more more likely the players, but I
would like to hear stall.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I would like this.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Thing today Today's big issue on talk radio, and then
in Syri's press conference it was also brought up. Was
the contention from landon Dickerson that they hadn't really practiced
against five man.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Fre and then he walked it back and he looked stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Dickerson walked it back.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
He walked it back, he walked it back.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, you know, he said it, and I believe usually
I believe what the person says the first time on that,
and Siriani went through one of his mealy mouthed, well,
we did this and we did that, and you will yeah,
looking back, would you rather have had a few more
reps against that? Yeah? You would? You know in hindsight,
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blah blah blah. You know, No, everybody knew five man
Front was going to be their focus with Quinn Williams.
And if the Eagles didn't know that, there's that's just ludicrous,
that's absurd. Stotlin has to get these guys ready to play,
and he has to make determinations like if Dickerson or
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Jurgens really isn't able to play effectively.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You can't play him somebody else.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You're not doing the team any good.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Bret has looked good the last few weeks. Like before,
Jurgens is just not healthy. He's not and you keep
running him out there, and you're ran Lane out there
when he wasn't ready.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And they're gonna do that again with Lane.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
They have not Ris.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
There was this big story over the weekend about how
he's not getting surgery. They're not going to do it
this week, but very soon, especially if they lose to Chicago,
Lane's going to be running out there on one leg,
trying to save the season. You mark my words. You know.
It's just it's and Stallin does need to I wish
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the Eagles would make him available. I'm sure he's a
very stand up guy. In my conversations over the years
with them, I think he would talk about what's wrong
and what he hasn't been able to do.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But we don't want to get it, John Addick. He
wants to hire a consultant or make them work together.
You are exactly right. I said, it's Sunday, just like Nick,
get a lead and kill the clock. Even if they
score twenty one unanswered. The problem is they can't block,
they can't.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Run, you know, they can't.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I think a secondary concern is Saquon Barkley does not
have the same bursts as he did last year, does
not have the same elusiveness as he did last year. Look,
I mean, I think we all talked about it preseason,
like he's not going for two grand again? Like, but
I mean, is it the line? Is it him? It's
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probably a little of both. The only time he got
an open in the open field yesterday and got galloping,
he got chased down from behind and fumbled the football.
It can't happen. It can't happen.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well, he had kind of stopped to to, you know,
make a cut.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Or he can't put it on the carpet like that.
How hard he got hit?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Oh yeah, I know. But that's the only fumbles all season.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I understand that. I'm trying it, well, the other guy
I also have. I also have a punt returner fielding
the football at the one yard line and trying to
run sideways east west, not north and south, gets pop
and puts it on the ground. Now I can can
I get mad at that? I'm gonna get mad at that.
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I know the defense stood strong and the Dallas didn't
get any points.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But you don't need that guy. You know, he's not that.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Good on the team.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
If he's on the team Friday.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, well he's not going to play. I mean, he's hurt,
so I don't know if he's going to be on
the team, but he's not gonna.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You can't cut him when he's hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Rights, Yeah, okay, but yeah, that's Michael Clay, the special
teams guy. You know, they do some good things on
special teams, but they do some awful things on special
teams as well.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He's a net, he's a net negative and the negative.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
The awful things are mental, you know, they're never, it's never.
The awful things aren't that they don't have enough talent,
it's that they do something stupid. Took a penalty yesterday,
which I don't think he's gone a game without taking
a penalty, I believe.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I mean, they seem to not have been able to
grasp how these new kickoff fools work twelve and it's
week twelve. Yeah, yeah, this team is poorly coached.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It is.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I would put I would put Jalens as a as
a positive. Yesterday too, I thought he played well.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I keep seeing people.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
The third was awful.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
It was, but you shouldn't have put him in that position.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Absolutely, yes, it's third and two. I don't give a
ship run two push pushes. You've seen the Dallas Goddard
play a billion times where he runs and he throws
it to him. It literally worked earlier in the game.
Why can't you do that right? And if you want
to play nobody really.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Do a million things rather than drop back, five step
drop and try to throw downfield.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
That they did fifty times before that. Yep, yeah, uh,
Bob Brickman, maybe we can get Pat Shermer in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, what well, pets pets They Pat's a great guy.
I like him. I hope he's not watching.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Are you trying? Are you trying to make me off
myself live on air?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
What I'm reading the passed his cell by date in
the NFL these days? I think.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
He can't be any worse.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well, whether we give it, Mike.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Sure, I want anyone who can help what whose guys
ain't help it?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Who did you say, I said, Mike grow.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Look Mike grow.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Nick Sirianni did. He's the CEO had coach the team
was unprepared to play yesterday. Kevin Bottolo has been the
offensive coordinator for twelve weeks now, and it's not it's
not working out. I'm watching the same plays. I'm watching
the same stinky plays with the same stinky role combinations.
No run game. That's not working. Uh are the Eagle
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special teams has been horrendous. That's another coaching Like coaching.
This team is poorly.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Coached, except for the defense.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, and oh, they didn't play. They didn't play great yesterday.
Dallas Hunt you see that Hunt No called no show.
Jordan Davis no called no shows. I haven't seen Jalen
Carter make a play in weeks.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, I think Dallas is really good in the middle
of their offensive line. But I thought they played. Here
is the problem yesterday, seventy four snaps the whole second half.
The defense was on the field. You can't do that
to your defense. You get people hurt. You lost three
players during the second half, you know, and by the
end they were holding it. But they stopped Dallas twice
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on fourth down for the love of God, you know,
I mean, and the offense just couldn't pick it up
at all, just couldn't make anything out of that. I
think Fangio does a tremendous job. I think the position
coaches are really good on defense. I just wish they
had they could spread that around a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Frankly, goat Stature eighty two sixty three. I thought the
offense functioned pretty well early. I mean, he's right about
the penalties.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
They have some bad penalties. But I also think we
went away in true Patulo fashion, we went away from
what was working.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah. Well, the second second, this guy gets a curveball
thrown at him. Yeah, where it's not something that they
talked about where anticipated on Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday. He's lost.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Kevin Patullo is the guy from Trouble with the curve
where he knows it's coming and he still can't hit it.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
What they did apparently, and god knows, I'm the least
X and O proficient person here, but they took away
that they were getting a lot out of the slants
to A. J. Brown and across the middle, and they
just started playing inside leverage on AJ Brown and all
of a sudden, the Eagles had no offense.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Sh what's that? John Malmos twenty five seventy one them
all for sitting Steen, Drew Kendall, Tyler Steen. And if
someone can explain to me that knows the nuances of
offensive line play is and why the right guard Tyler
Stein is literally standing straight up with his hand in
(31:55):
the air until the ball is snapped. Somebody explain that
to me, because it's.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Going to be it's a silent count thing.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
He I mean, I'm not an expert at offensive line
points is explaining it?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
No, I'm not an expert either, But and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Doesn't that hinder Doesn't that hinder his ability to block
a three hundred pound Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
It certainly does. And I have never understood in all
my years of covering this crap, what is a false start?
And what is it? You got one guy turned around
like this, like you said, with his hand in the air.
Another guy can't turn his head. I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I don't know. It's such a frustrating Greg Melokovic's in
the house. John Almos looked happy, he got happy.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Didn't look happy stop in the first half when the
offense was cooking. Look happy he was.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Even after the game he wasn't happy. No, you know,
let's not I mean, I'm not. There are things that
I fought AJ four, But let's not get crazy here.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Uh used to be you never feel it inside the fox.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That's pretty much the rule.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, that thing drop who cares?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't want you touching it.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, unless it's an eighty yard punt and the opposing
team is still forty yards away from.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
You, exactly, But that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
John Malmos can't do it to a toush push when
you're playing with a backup tagle, right, card.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I mean you can. You literally did it.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
You did it. You're a touchdown. It worked really well.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
So so you're you're telling me they couldn't get two
yards on the toush bush.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
For two yards?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, like what was it?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yard and a half? Most likely that's what you needed.
It's bull Like, I'm sorry, it's ball.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I think you have a better chance of doing that
than the drop back pass.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Rob. This is what happens when your offense is always
three in punt, the defense is on the field way
too long, and now they're all getting hurt. Read blank
and Chip left the game, and Dorry Jackson left the game.
Andrew mccooba left the game.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And Macouba's really bad injury happened right near the end
when they were running snaps that they should not have
been out there for. You know, the offense should have
been on the field running the clock down.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Update on him, Oh.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
A broken broken ankle, he's probably done.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
He's done.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And then Cooper dejene went to go play outside corner
when Dorri jacks And that's what Cooper does, not play
outside corner way.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
He's a jealous.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He might be able to if with a full off
season of work there, but he's not there right now.
And that's.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Ast he got doll walked by George Pickens. Yes, and
then you got the other idiot from the Jets running
into quinne On Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And he's new here. You give him, let him try again.
If he does it again, then but somebody's got to
play there. I don't want to see Sidney Brown. That
guy is an idiot. You know that he's terrible. But
the point there about the three in point I was
I saw today that the Eagles are running three and
(35:28):
outs at a higher rate than any team in the
NFL since the Raiders in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
How is that it makes no sense to man, is
that JaMarcus Russell? Is that the JaMarcus Russell Raiders?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
No, No, it would be after JaMarcus, but it would
the Raiders have been bad for twenty one.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Who is the guy the Browns cover from QB to
quarterback to a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean Trell Pryor, Yeah, that's who is quarterback?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Then I think, okay, yeah, probably so yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And they're eight and three somehow somehow.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, because they have a tremendous load of talent. But
like you said, Rob poorly coached.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I'm starting to now put credence into the twenty twenty
three comparisons.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
You know, I got we all got sick of it
early on, and everybody thought they had put that to
bed with those two wins, after the two losses. But
if they lose Friday, yeah, it's it's twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It's just it's just gonna be. I mean, twenty twenty three,
Well it was a defensive collapse.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, I was gonna say, it looks a little different,
but it's the same vibe, same bs, you know, from
the coach.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
And I'm not I'm not I'm not in on the
Jalen Hurts his Carson Wentz two point zero. I'm still
very much out on that.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It's one of the most ridiculous statements.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
It's not he's not. Jalen Hurts is such a good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, but the thing locker rooms are weird. There's so
many people in there that on any team, there's guys
that are just sip shits, you know, and they'll they're
jealous and they're petty, and you don't want too many
(37:20):
of those guys. But everybody team has some of them.
And when things go bad, they they're like cockroaches. They
find their way out. You know. It's uh, there's no
way around it.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's never one guy that who was that one guy
they had a couple of years ago he played defensive
back and he got cut and then here.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Talking about that Yes, king cockroach right there.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yes, Now we got cockroaches in the locker room. We
got a head coach who can't figure it out anything.
Somebody tell me something good that I can right home
in this game coming up against the Bears.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Davonte Smith is really good.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, Devonte Smith is a man.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Tell us god there is also playing really well this year,
but they can't get him the ball.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Because they can't block.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I think Hurts will really try Friday to rally the ship,
to write the ship.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I don't know, as he's as long as he's my cornerback,
Yeah I will. I will truly believe that he will
find a way to figure this out. Because if you
will get twenty three like it wasn't because he couldn't
figure it out. As a leader, you can't. You can't
make up every week you score thirty, the defense gives
(38:47):
up forty two, Like that's just there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Absolutely, yes, I agree.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So as long as I have one, I always have
a shot.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
So basically where we're at right now is either Jalen
Hurts is going to be Jalen Hurts and they're gonna win,
or they're screwed.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, the Bears have a bunch of injuries. I think
all their linebackers are injured, including TJ. Edwards, the former Eagle.
So they're running practice squad guys out there at linebackers.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
But surely we'll target that less.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Surely yeah, who knows, but surely.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You'll be using slants with AJ Brown against these practice
Wie ought to.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Be able to score points on the Bears. The danger
is Caleb Williams can also score points. But you know,
you ought to be able to score points on the Bears.
We just haven't seen it. Other than that one Giants game,
the revenge game, we have not seen a team that consistently,
even that Vikings game. You know Carson Wentz set them
up to score points. Yes, they did, and that was
(39:51):
kind of a little bit of what was happening Sunday.
Everybody's talking about the twenty one nothing lead and you're
blowing these guys out of the water. If you looked
at the stats, they weren't really blowing them out of
the water. They got the ball at the fifty when
Dallas went for it on fourth and three on their
first possession and didn't make it. Then they got the fumble. Well,
(40:13):
then they got the reprieve on the blocked punt that
was called roughing the punter, which shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
That was a horrible call.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, So then they scored on that eventually, and then
they had the running back just dropped the ball when
he tripped over his own linemen and they got turpin.
They got set up for the third touchdown that way.
They didn't really at halftime. The stats were pretty even.
(40:43):
It was twenty one to seven, but the first downs
in the yardage were dead even, and you knew they
needed to come out in the second half and really play.
And they got the ball and they had that ridiculous
They had a twenty yard play to God that was
called back because Pryor was in as an extra offensive
(41:05):
lineman and was not supposed to be lined up on
the line of scrimmage and was and it all unraveled
from there. You know, it's so typical of them and
what they do these days, and how they can't master basics.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I'm baffled at their seven point favorites on Friday. Baffled.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I don't think anybody thinks that the Bears haven't beaten anybody,
and I don't think anybody thinks the Bears are really good.
But but yeah, would I think at seven, No, I
would not.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I don't think the Eagles should be favored by seven
over Bucks County Community College right now. They will find
a way. They will find a way, This edition of
the Philadelphia Eagles will find a way to make it
harder than it has to be.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yes, yeah, oh yeah, but that's a tool awesome it's
in a nutshell square sixty square peg round hole.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
So sixty three total yards on the ground yesterday. Yep.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, they could not run it. I've never seen. And
we had some there were some bad offensive lines here,
like you know, the late Andy years, the early Chip years.
They had some injuries. They'd be bringing in guys off
the street to play guard. They could run block better
than this. I have never seen anything quite like this,
(42:32):
I really haven't.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I mean, sixty three yards in sixty minutes of football.
That's not going to get it done at a championship level,
right Other than Jalen Hurts, what about this team is
championship caliber right now? I guess you could say the defense,
but it's all banged up now. Yeah, I don't know
(42:54):
what we're I don't know what we're going to be getting.
Jayleen Carter is doing himself no favors in these ones
and wanting to be the highest paid defensive player in
the league. Campaign him and his agent are gonna are
gonna be campaigning for after this season. Oh yeah, without question,
(43:17):
I guess we lost less. All right. We'll see if
he hops back on. But I'm just I'm just I'm disappointed.
I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed today because I I hate when
I'm patient and give people the benefit of the doubt
(43:38):
and they make me look silly. I tell this team.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Is doing tried then, I tried.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Sorry for those I tried to adjust the angle of
my screen now.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
But but I I just like, but I don't want
to live like that, and I don't want to be
firing an offensive coordinator three games into the season either.
I don't want to be like that either. But when
I give someone the benefit of the doubt, and this
goes for Nick Siriani as well, because he's he's the CEO,
head coach and his company is burning to the ground
(44:12):
right now. Yeah, I'm just I'm very I'm very irritated,
as you should be. Yes, Anyway, I don't see. I mean, like,
this team's gonna have to play the Rams at some
point again. Yeah, maybe they Leagles won't make it that far.
I know the Rams are gonna make it that far.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, they probably will. But I mean, the one thing
on your side is that you consistently have beaten the Rams.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
This team, the addition of the team that I've seen
the past three weeks, is in no way shape or
for beating the Rams in a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
I mean, but we see it in the playoffs all
the time, Like just because you're the better team doesn't
mean you're going to win.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
No, because we do this with the Phillies everything. No, no, no, no, no,
no no. Listen, we do this every single year. Everyone
just assumes that, oh they can't hit now, they're just
gonna get hot in October.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
And what happens in the NFL the big stage.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
P Why the big stage? P Why it extrapolates your
weaknesses not makes them better.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
There are some upsets in the first round, but I
don't see teams getting to the super Bowl that they
don't deserve to be there most of the time.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Like, I don't think Tampa's beating the Eagles, even though
I'm pissed off tonight, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Tampa's quarterbacks heard, I don't know that they're making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I heard there was good news on his MRI, so yeah,
he's okay. But like the Niners are playing right now,
not very well.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Three interceptions early.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Like I don't think I don't think the Niners are
beating the Eagles in a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Are they not? Just even making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
I don't know. I guess we'll see who's standing when
when the top seven are determined, Like Seattle, are they
beating the Eagles?
Speaker 3 (46:08):
They probably could beat maybe.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Who knows right now? Probably, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
This is the like just it's just depressing and it's frustrating.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
We need to like every time I think, okay, like
this is the worst the Packers game, this is the worst.
They're gonna come out against the Lions and it's gonna
look better, and then it's the Simpsons.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Meme, it's the worst day of your life so far.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
And then and then and then they come out against
the Lions and they look even worse. And then they
go and it's like, okay, like it was cold, it
was windy, the Lions are pretty good. We're gonna go
down to Dallas and we're gonna get it right. And
now this is the worst. Each week, it's the worst
they've ever looked, so like, where's the bottom here.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
That's a good point. I don't know, that's the twenty
three comparison right there. You know they just kept before too.
They lost to some good teams. If you remember how
it went, they got really beaten up badly by a
couple of good teams, and then they just started losing
to everybody because they just kind of knew they weren't
(47:22):
going to get there.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I guess the silver lining is they have eight wins.
They have the Raiders on their schedule, and they have
the Commanders twice on their schedule. Yep, eight plus three
is eleven and six. Yeah, that's going to win you
the division and get you a home game, I think, yeah,
(47:45):
unless Dallas just really gets hot.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Here, I don't know there are they They think they're
playing the lines in Chiefs the next two weeks.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Aren't They have the Chiefs on Thursday? They have Thanksgiving Day,
they have the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, there's no way, there's no I think maybe they split,
but like that's that's that's like a winning scenario for them.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
And what's Dallas's record again? They're five and four, right,
five four and one five.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah? Five five in one?
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah, so they split those. There's six six in one
and then there's what four games left? I guess it
depends who they play. They got the Giants again. I
think I don't think they've played the Have they played
the Commanders yet? I don't think they've played the Commanders.
(48:39):
I'm assuming they beat them. Dallas would have to give
the game that Jayden got hurt, right anyway, Dallas is
going to have to really get hot here.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, Dallas, and we we need to self implode, which
is that's under that's underway. Yeah yeah, but like I
mean worse.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I have no confidence that this team can do anything
positive over a sixty minute football game right now.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah. Yeah. The idea of them really putting together a
solid win against anybody where there's no you know, where
they're ahead by a couple of touchdowns in the fourth
quarter and there's no hint of anything bad happening. I
just can't imagine it right now. I really can't.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Carter Anderson Hurts holds the ball on the ball too long.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
He does, but that's also because nobody's open.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah. They also run stupid routes, you know that runs.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
They run garbage routes where nobody's open and available, and
he's like, what do I do?
Speaker 1 (49:48):
There are times when he could try to fit it
into a win. He doesn't.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
But that's not far between this season. Less five on
the list of the time this season holding on the
ball too long because there is not a single soul open.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, Jalen Hurts is at his best when he drops
back and zips it somewhere when he when he But that's.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Another puttool issue. If you look like they are getting
that that play to the line too late.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Right, that happens a lot.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah, they were rushing out in the first because that
ball was coming out within the first ten seconds. The
play was already available in the first ten seconds in
the first half, and the second half it went on
too long.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Agree, all right?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Closing thoughts, They got the Bears coming up on Black Friday.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, I think this will tell you a lot, really,
even though the Bears aren't that good. I think if
the Eagles lose this then we're in free fall. I mean,
anything can happen if the Eagles lose this game. If
they win it, they back into another win like they
have the two weeks before the Dallas game. It doesn't
(51:09):
really tell you that much. I guess it's just more
of the you're stumbling along.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
I'm done, I'm done with the style points. You just
need to figure out way more points than the Bears
on Friday.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
According to nothing or something, then maybe okay, you start
to think, Okay, they actually took this seriously and looked
inside themselves and you know, did something.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
But not I think they take it seriously the last
I think there's so much going wrong. They just don't
know what to do. Yeah, they don't know where to start, right,
It's quick sand I'll reiterate my point. I can't believe
this football team is favored by seven points in an
NFL game after what I've watched the last three weeks. Yeah,
(52:02):
this team is not a contender at the current moment.
They're not winning any spresident, They're not winning anything. I
hope they can get it together enough to get a win,
because if this looks bad, the the fans are going
to be no one's gonna have work except me, So
(52:24):
everyone's gonna be drinking, everyone's gonna be booing, and it's
going to get ugly down there at the stadium.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
So I do I do have one non bears closing
thought because my manager at work brought this up to me,
and I hadn't even thought about it until he brought
it up. Whose idea was it to do Kelly Green
on the road? Yeah, I didn't like, we're tempting fate
(52:53):
just a switch.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
National TV game. I guess they wanted everybody to see
it and buy the jerseys. Uh, but yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't wear Kelly Green in.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Dallas, the white one. Why can't we wear the white
ones with the Kelly green helmet.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
That would be cool.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, that's a great that's a great jersey. You get
the get the gray pants with the Kelly green stripe,
you get the white top and then the Kelly green helmet.
That's the best, the best uniform they have. But what
do I know? Everyone likes the Kelly Green and they
can make money off of it. So that's the way.
(53:31):
That's the way it goes. Exasturbating being a fan of
this teams in the city. It's absolutely exascerb.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
It's a hard knock life.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yes, it can never just be once we and then
once once we think we got it and it's easy,
something happens. So they need to win the game on Friday,
they need to hopefully Dallas loses to Kansas City and
the Eagles can win. And that kind of degates what
happened yesterday and the standings. We all saw what happened.
(54:06):
Nothing that gates my eyes ever because I know what
I see. But from a standings perspective, maybe it could
be soften the blow a little bit.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
That would that would change you know a few things.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
This feels like a game that Dallas wins on Thanksgiving
at home. Yeah, and then they'll throw a clunker in
when they need it, but against Washington or the Giants
or something, they'll throw.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
It when they get to the playoffs. The Roar into
the playoffs and then lose to a really bad team.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
All right, Well that'll do it for this edition of
Eagles Talk. Les Bowen, Peter Young, I'm Rob Brinkman. Please
win on Friday, Please win, Go birds. Everyone have a
happy Thanksgiving, by the way, giving everyone, which is on Thursday. Yes,
(55:01):
it's getting to be the holidays. We certainly just thank
each and every one of you for all the support
that you show our platform and us as individuals, and
we just have everyone has a happy and a safe
holiday season. So until next week, peace out, everybody. H
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