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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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(00:55):
abbreviated show today because we got several games we want
to break down, so we're gonna focus and make sure
we we concentrate on quality over quantity. We've got offenses
that exploded in week three, so I'm I'm really excited
to get into it and dive into what the film shows. Well,
(01:15):
my brother, how you doing? How how you feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I need a haircut? I know that that's that's what one.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I just thought one. I gotta change up. But I'm
I I told my barber, I'm like, I need to
I need a change. I don't want to do the
come over again. So I got it short and I'm
spiking it again and seeing how it goes. The wife
he doesn't really like it as much. But I'm like,
I can't do the come over again. I've had that
for years.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh yeah, No, it's about I go.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I go like two weeks. If I got something going on,
maygo like two weeks back to back. But this is
uh going on two weeks without a haircut and the shows.
Other than that, Man, I'm doing well, doing well. I
can't I can't complain. Uh, sometimes you got to be
thankful for the spot in the moment that you're in
while still looking ahead and being thankful for your past.
(02:03):
So you know, I think that's where the Eagles are
right now. I think that sums up what the Eagles
offense has been through the first three games and the
B three and oho and there, I say, trending upward
and more complex. And I really think the offensive growth,
not so much growth, but the capabilities of what we're
(02:25):
seeing with the offensive, what we saw in the second
half when they were forcing a position to have to
play to win the game and not lose, to kind
of let.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The governor off a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And I think probably the most exciting thing is probably
what for me, is what Fangio is doing on the
defensive side as well.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's not being talked about a lot, not talking a lot, but.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
He's doing things that are not Fangio ask for things
that haven't been seen. So while we've been sitting here
waiting for okay, we want, we won the super Bowl
and it kind of seems like the offense is like, well,
we can just kind of wow, friends and repeat. We
heard we heard the excerpt from from nix Si Brandley Gown.
He posted it shouts out to Brandley Gollen where he
(03:08):
was like, Hey, the things that you're good at at
your base stuff, let's just get better.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And that can only work so far, right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Like, we've seen that before. We've seen that before, after
twenty twenty, after twenty twenty two and twenty three when
they were talking about the offense. We've seen his philosophy.
But the thing is we've a seen after that the collapse,
and we've seen how valuable bringing in new elements was
(03:35):
when Calamore came in. So I think, you know, I
think it's about a balance between what Nick's philosophy philosophy
was before, but to still make sure you're evolving along
with you know, right.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And I only think so much with the offense is
actually an evolution, Like I said again, like I think
it's more evolution if we're looking at that and that
that would evolved. That somewhat is changing the phrase of
that's evolution right to make it mean more in that
action of evolving. That's more on the defensive side, like fan,
Jos is doing things that he hasn't done before because
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he has the personnel to do so to where with
the offenses, it's okay, like hey, like we got these guys,
like AJ said, I won't use this as that phrase
that he said, because but pretty much, let's let your
personnel do what it does. Lets your Jim and Joe's
screw the exs and OS doesn't have to be overcomplex
enabling us because if I'm not mistaken, they went into
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the second half not having a lot of passing yards
and I think both AJ and Devonte ended up with
one hundred and a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, it's crazy. What what how they will turn it
on And we're going to dive into the offensive phone
a little bit and talk about what we thought, what
our takeaways were. But like you know, with with this
episode that we have for you and you know, if
you're and then we appreciate it, We're gonna dive dive
into three offenses from this week that really impressed us.
(05:07):
We got we got the Eagles, we got the Lions,
and we've got the Bears. We we did Eagles last week,
so if you're watching us, you're starting to follow the show.
And then we talked about how like we dive into
other stuff outside of just the Eagles. That is that
is true, we do. But the performance and the game
that game was against the Rams was so good. I
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was like, we have to talk about it. It was like,
you know, it's one of the main talking points, you know, nationally,
so like we can't not discuss it and and talk
about what changes happened to spark that comeback and lead
to that that dramatic win. So we're gonna talk about
that the Eagle again, but we are gonna we said,
we're gonna talk about the Bears and they're they're exposed
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exploison against the Cowboys as well as the Lions, and
how impressively able to past two weeks and especially against
the Ravens on Monday night. So let's kick it off
though with our again our home turf, the Eagles, And
I've got a lot of notes from watching the film
Pete Uh, but we'll start with you. If you're going
to have one takeaway from the offense, whether it be
(06:16):
good bad, Like what is what do you want to
start with? What do you what did you take away
from from watching it?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That Actually the biggest thing I've taken away from is
jalen maturation. Jalen's maturation as a leader on the sideline,
being more vocal, being more involved. We've seen it after
I want to say, after the that aj touchdown, him
sitting over there with Singleton, him sitting over with looksact
(06:45):
Patula where there sitting, he's standing and he's just being
very vocal.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We saw the last.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Week a little bit when he got in he got
into Tyler scene a little bit during during that game.
I forget what it was against the Chiefs. I don't know.
It was a they had to call a timeout, but
something wasn't right, the alignment wasn't right, something was missed.
And he's taking that step forward to be that leader
that that what the fan base division had to be
because remember before, so he's so calm, he's so he's
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so collected, Like now he's growing into it to become
more passionate and letting and more confident itself and the
skills to let that passion come through. And that's kind
of what I've taken away because I feel like I
almost felt like the offense kind of all felt like that.
They felt like they were being limited. Right, we all
say that governor in the car can't go a certain
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speed limit.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
They felt like that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And it wasn't just we feel like that as fans,
but to know that they felt like that. As far
as when you hear what Jalen said and how he
spoke after the game, when you hear what aj said
and how they spoke at the game, we obviously don't
give it Davante, but it's more along those lines, like, hey,
this team is still a unit and they played like
shit offensively for the first two games.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Were really for the first ten quarters of football this
and boom here comes.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's like they had to remind the coaches like, hey,
like this is look look at our payroll, Like look
at that bankroll. Look at where this money is going
and what you have invested in it. We shouldn't have
to tell you to trust us, and we should have
to be down nineteen to be lucky to be down
nineteen in that situation. Today, I feel like now we
have to be aggressive because we were forced into a corner.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
So it's like they can still do it. But it's
really just the.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Uniform mindset to feel like, hey, this has been growing
this undertow when his tension has been growing for the
past two weeks and it's like, hey, why are we
doing this to ourselves?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, we have Sakuan he is he is a stud, right,
But I think what's not being talked about as much,
and you'll probably get into it, is that's a good
positive for me with Jal's maturation and how he's on
the same page where Avonna, aj and Devonte is. The
side of that coin is there's old lining to step
(09:03):
it up, brother, that's old line. Yeah, it's still better,
it's still better than most, but it's not playing to
the level it was to the first three games of
last year.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yah. And I talked about it on Eagle Stock last night,
you know, and I'll say it again if you didn't hear.
It's just people are wondering what's going on with the
run game. You know, why isn't Saque ripping off those explosives?
And you know, people want to point the scheme and
I guess, so, I mean, you can make adjustments schematically
(09:34):
because of the reason I'm going to get to, But
it starts because the interior of the old line is
just not playing well. They're not like Driggens has been solid,
but he's I would argue, not playing to the level
that he was last year. Tyler Steen, he is what
he is like. I think he's he's played two expectations.
(09:58):
You know, he's he's a better pass there than than
Makai Beckton was, but he's not the maller in the
run game that Beckhen was. We saw him Beckton last year.
He's just he moves people in the run game. Uh
So when you're when you go from that to Stein,
who is more of you know that that technician and
(10:18):
just but he's not. He doesn't have that over overwhelming
power and strength that Maka Becken has. It's it's just
never and again. So I don't like I expected that
to be the thing. But if you're wondering why you're
not seeing that, you know from the right guard position
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is because in the run game it is like a
down greed. But then I think the biggest factor is
Lyndon Dickerson, who I have so much respect for. I
love Dickerson, and I know he's playing hurt and he's
trying to tough it out, and I again, I love
him and respect him for that, but you can absolutely
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tell that he's hurt and he's not. He is giving
up a lot of grounds. He's he's not moving people,
and a lot of these these breakdowns and the run
plays are are due to him because he can't get
any push. So that's the issues mainly the interior, and
I mean my Lota has his has had his issues
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as well, obviously with Lane leaving the game against the Rams.
And then you know, you have first Matt Pryor coming
in didn't play that well regardless of what PFF will
tell you. And then you also have you also have
Fred Johnson who came in played well in pass protection,
but Fred Johnson is not great at run blocking. So
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you have all those factors. And it starts with just
the on line, it starts with online. They're so if
it's gonna be like that, do you scheme other stuff?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Possibly, Like I would like to see more outside. I'd
like to see more so like get outside the tackles
a little bit that I think that would be good.
But at the same time, like, if Landon can't move,
you know, that's your face with that problem. So it's
just a matter of they're gonna have to play better
(12:18):
to what we've seen the capable of, and I think
eventually they will so, but that's that's the reason for
the run game. I just think that we're gonna need to.
It's gonna take time for them to get back to
the level. But I expected to. I feel expected to.
But in terms of the film, for me, what I
saw and I know a lot of people are expecting
(12:41):
this huge change, right like they're expecting oh, like in
the second quarter, after the ram scord that touched I
mean the third quarter. I'm sorry, after the ram scorre
that touchdown.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
There were problems.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
They were there were people are probably saying like, oh,
there are probably these drastic changes call playing wise or
play calling wise. There really weren't. There were some, but
like overall, it wasn't that drastic, so you know, to
start the game. Like, what I what I noticed was
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that I already talked about prior and I talked about
the line. Something that they don't not a lot of
people are realizing, is that there was a lot of
bad execution in terms of rout spacing and just just
knowing what they're doing, like they were, uh the in
(13:38):
the first drive where we eventually scored a touchdown. There
was that one play where Hurts is targeting Smitty on
the out route, but Dotson's right there and he he
thinks it's intended for him and he gets it's a
complete that route spacing like Dotson was running, probably running
the wrong route because started it Hurts, it is targeting Smitty,
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he's not expecting to be right there. And there's another
play later on another drive where a j doesn't know
what's going on, he doesn't know what the play calling,
he just doesn't run a route. There's another play where
I think it's Darius Cooper and Goddard, I forget if
it's if Gods the other person, but they're they're running
routes and they are literally right behind each other, like
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in the middle of the field. So that was definitely wrong.
So you have these execution issues along with the poor
pass bro that's just compiling everything and so it's not
just aschematic when it comes to the issue. It's it's
executions the players that really made compounded the issue. But
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when we got into the second half, I think the
major thing, aside from better execution, was you saw them
spread out more right, less dense formations. They put five
wide and they were five wide and three by one sets.
AJ isolated as the receiver, and because of that you
(15:15):
had you were able to dictate a lot of one
on one, one on one matchups for AJ because he's
the isolated receiver on the backside. So that's where you
got a lot of these these big plays because you
have him isolated. So that's that's the major thing that
I saw is that they were able to be like, Okay,
(15:38):
we want to get the ball to A. J. Brown.
Let's let's let's let's not complicate this anymore. Let's get
the ball a J. Brown. How can we do that.
Let's get him one on one, let's isolate. I think
that was like one of the biggest adjustments if we
talk about schematic adjustments. Obviously Fred Johnson coming in their
providers ability and pass protection was also definitely a factor.
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We're gonna get in to one of the plays, but
Hurt's getting time from Fred Johnson led to it to
be able to have that target, you know, in the
in the middle of the field. You called it to
this other one I'll touch on Pete and you called it.
In our chat you had said you want to see
more TV designed runs and they called I think like
(16:19):
in the second they called like two or three more.
I can forget it was I.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Think it was two or three and it was on
the drive to take the league. Yeah, if I'm not
mistaken and that and that's if Sean McVay kind of
says something similar. He's like, hey, like after the games,
like they're very obviously they're very talent, the football team
and the finishing World champions, they have a lot of grit.
And he said something that struck a chord with me
and what you were just speaking of. He said, they
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want to play the get they want to dictate how
they play the game. They want to play the game
and the style of play they wanted to play and
in the first half was very conservative and we saw that.
And in the second half, kudos to the Rams. Based
off the first half, they pushed him into a corner
where it's hey, all right, well we got this, we
got this bag too, we got this, we got this
(17:04):
card that we can play where we could do a
three by one set. We got it all round wide
receiver and Davante, but we have a matchup Nightmare on
the other side, and now he's isolated with Darius Williams.
And it's not overly complicated. It was it was just
put the ball in his hands and let him go
make a play. Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, you don't have to over complicated when you have
a j. Brown and then the one day Smith on
the other side. So, uh, let's get to some plays
that really stood down to us. I want to start.
We'll go in chronological order, so we'll start with you know,
this is the theme of these. We have two clips here.
The theme of these are middle of the field targets.
And that's another takeaway that I had was that, hey,
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we talk about not we talked about Hurts not target
being someone who targets the middle of the field often
second half, like, there are a lot of plays where
he was targeting middle of the field and and pretty
much like throwing dimes, he was he was doing really
well in this first one. This was a touchdown to
Godard and if you're noticing, if you right after, yeah,
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so this is you have Godard from the number two,
the number two receiver of top and he's running They
do this often, just he's gonna run a post route
and they catch the Rams in some type of Cover two.
And I don't know if it's like inverted cover two,
regular Cover two, Tampa Tampa two. I've been trying to
research to see if anyone else knows what it was.
(18:30):
No one seems to have a beat on what exactly
it was. It could have also been a breakdown. But
as you see here, Goddard is and we highlighted him.
I'm trying to put graphics into this now too, so
if you're viewing, you're watching this, you can see exactly
what I'm talking about. But Goddard is is gonna be
the target and he's running that post from the slot,
and you're gonna see after this the Rams are pretty
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much just going to let that happen because there's again
Cover two, there's some type of breakdown and it's just
wide open. And this is this is easy layup for
for Hurts. But good job by him to know that
that deep middle of the field is going to be open,
it's going to be able to hit Godard. So that
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run concept is or that past concept is something that
the Eagles have run in prior games, but on here
is where they actually hit. So I don't know if
you have anything.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That I feel like it was almost to the point
to where like this is just so much. We'll have
to see if they open up like this and they
it's early in the game. But the sequencing, the play
sequencing after after the A J play you hit this
because you pretty much hit that to the boundary side,
(19:42):
to the far side of our from the camera angle
that played before. Yeah, you had this very next play.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So it's good. Just it sparked the comeback for the
They got things going so really good good stuff from them.
He this is the I think this was probably the
most impressive throw of the day for uh for Jenern Hurts. Uh,
I like this. So credit to friend Duffy. He noticed
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that they called a similar concept earlier in the game
that that Hurts kind of missed, and so they used that.
They called it again but added something to it. So
what you're gonna see, you're gonna see Smitty on the
So right now they're in two by two condemn Yeah,
now Smitty is motioning now he's the number three nobody yep,
(20:36):
So no they're in the zone. Now see uh, Smitty
is going to be the eventual target. They're gonna run mesh.
So you see the number one. I saw the the
one receiver to the backside, and then I believe it's
the number two to the trip side. They're gonna run.
They're gonna run the mesh if I'm if I'm correct,
if I remember correctly. Now, this route, as you see,
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I drew it here for for everyone, and sorry lines
up quiggly. It's hard to draw on my phone.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Until you just pointed him out.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But but Smitty is going to be the one. He's
going to run this kind of like a delayed Yeah.
So you have the mesh and you have the intermediate
cross off of the mesh initially, and that's a common concept, right,
but you add this delayed crosser from Smitty and that's
(21:30):
what's going to really open up. It's good anticipation here
by Hurts, and again the pass protection by Fred Johnson
helped set this up. So I'm gonna play as you
can see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And it's patience well as as a player is rolling,
it needs time to develop and the pass pro holds up.
Boom boom, yep, and you can tell after after Deon
goes emotion they're in zone.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It's just two dbs to cover three people.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, but you had to be patient.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Because you could have took the short enemy round.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It looked like I said, it was third or fourteen,
but it started ten like I said, this is execution,
all right, this is.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, you have dots and I think I can't I
can't figure out who this is is. Aj I forget
who this is. I'm sorry, but that they run the
mesh and you see Guttard here, he's going to run
that intermediate crosser initially.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Co right behind.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
So earlier I think Fredon pointed out earlier in the
game when they ran this, it was Smitty that was
running this route initially and it was missed. So they
built something on it where Smitty now is going to
why it's going to run the delay crosser. And it's
a good job by simitthy too, because when you have
a delayed when you're like that far into the progression,
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you can you don't have to necessarily be on time
with your routs. You can kind of you have a
little bit of leeway to be a little bit more
delayed and do stuff. So Smitty does a really good job. Here.
Look how far he's going to widen this. And because
he's able to widen that route, that really extends and
opens up the defense the secondary in that second level.
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And you can see the quarterback here. Look how white
he has to be to adjust to that route. And
because he does so, that leaves that window. And look
and Hurts is right now he's pulling the trigger. He
anticipates that gonna be open. So really good job there.
I love that they hit this so middle of the field.
(23:27):
I'm telling you, Hurts is not that's not his word
forte right, But he's not bad at it. He just
doesn't do it a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
What do you think about like, even in this route,
if this was an option route with this looking fourteen,
I think that's fourteen or thirty four the rams dB.
That's weird. Watch he's giving him to the inside of
his own If Davonte chose at that point to run
a go route from that position, he has he has
the same option. Hurst's has the same thing.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
He can sneak it, throw it up the field.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I mean, but this is at this time this was
paid once again patience, right, we don't have to get
all back in one play, and at this point we
had got stops through the roll yep.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Absolutely, so I love this the design. One of my
favorite past concepts is mesh so I loved them building up,
building off of this and the middle of the field
target awesome stuff. The other one I the other player
I want to go to when we we get as
we get off of that, the game winning touchdown right
(24:29):
to Submitte. And I know this looks simple to the
you know, the casual of your casual eye, but as
I'm watching this, this is what I pick up on.
And this is we talk about one of the reasons
why Hurts is so good now is because he's so smart,
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And this is one of the elements of or one
of the examples of why he's so smart. Like and
this is like not all qbs can can do this,
And I'm not saying like he's one of one, But
what do we talk about with Tom Brady? What what's
one of the things that have made in the go
Because even if it's a simple like short pass or
(25:15):
it looks like a simple checkdown or whatever it is,
it's about making the right decision and knowing where to go.
The reason why this jumps out to me pre snap. Okay,
so AJ is up top, he's the number one I think.
So AJ is gonna run a slant with Dotson kind
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of running that that pick route. You would think, obviously
that's the first option, right, that's the that's the first progression.
You want to go to a J and that's that's
the right thing. But once you look at the defense,
and once you see the type of defense that the
Rams are running. They have two safeties back here. But
you see as I circle this guy, this safety, this
(25:58):
dB moving right right. Because of that movement, Hurts knows
that he is very likely to be pressuring right, he's coming,
he's gonna come down and attack. Whereas this safety there's
a good chance they're gonna he's gonna bracket AJ. And
that's exactly what happens. So he Hurts immediately knows, Okay,
(26:23):
I'm gonna I'm not even gonna look to a J side. Yeah,
a J AJ is gonna be bracketed. Safety is going
to bracket him to take him away. But this safety,
because you're reading this safety now, since he is probably
gonna come in on a pressure look or on a blitz.
That's gonna leave DeVonta Smith one on one. So math
(26:46):
Davonta Smith one on one, you're gonna go to that matchup.
But it's that type of stuff that is why this
is a smart decision and good pre snap awareness by
Jyalen Hurts to know where to go to. So as
we see here that safety, he's kind of creeping. I'm
not sure why he didn't just come on all out.
(27:08):
I don't know if like if it if he has
some sort of spy, if he's a spy on Hurts,
but pretty much his eyes are two Hurts and he's
creeping wine of scrimmage, and that does leave Smitty one
on one, and you're going to see him as as
we know, at the outright out route and hit the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So you see how if you go back a couple
of seconds, a couple of frames, even though it's it's
tight down here back more yeah, no, keep going forward,
back backwards, rewind.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You wind in where is.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
So look look how DeVante gets up the field and
right there at that moment, Hurts knows where he's going
outside of just being knowing the play designed, but the
execution that we weren't seeing in the first half. Look
at it on this route here, Davonte needs that space.
And then just look how the dB is playing. The
DB's giving him the boundary he's giving him.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
He's playing inside leverage.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
He's playing inside leverage. And then he needs to clear
his guy this to get out the way. So even
is doing right. And then at this point Jalen knows okay,
as soon as Saquan clears, it's over.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Boo yep. Just little stuff like that. That's what makes
this so. It makes you know, football so so awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
It seems so simple, but it's so intricate I think
it was. And then to go back to what Sean
Vay said, I I didn't send it a share, but
he said, Jaalen can beat you with his arms, his legs,
and then he said his mind, his mind. So we're
people thought coming out of Alabama this he was a
one trip pony. But now there's cerns how much he studies,
how smart he is. Whose brain has he been picking
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on in the summertime in the off season.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Who's he calling?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He's calling Brady, He's calling Payton like then once he
wants to be better at it all that competitiveness is
self driven, like he doesn't need any outside motivation. It helps,
it helps, but this is this is truly from him.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Wanting to be the best that he can be.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, and we are in a very fortunate position to
have this much talent on the offensive side, all at
the same time, and all all necessarily in their prime.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
That's the crazy part. They're all in their prime, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yep, absolutely game when you touchdown twenty seven, twenty six. Uh.
And I thought with them not hitting the two point conversion,
I thought that was going to be a bad omen.
I was like, oh my god, that's the game. Jordan
Davis and Jane Carter on special team, so great stuff. Again,
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this I think this is a good wag up. But
there's there's not It's still not perfect. There's still you know,
there's still some things to work on, some things that
don't make sense though. But I think they're starting to
figure out. I think that. And you know, credit. I
know a lot of Eagles fans don't want to give
him credit, but credit to Kevin Patulo to make these
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types of adjustments, whether whether it took hurts yelling at
him or not to do it. He's still you know,
he still ended up doing it. But they the offense
showed signs of life and it was good. Excuse, thank you, sir.
Any any other takeaways from the Eagles offense from from
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the Rams game before we move on to the next month.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
No, not not from the offense. It's just to come
back from nineteen points in the NFL. Yes, you have
to execute, you have to figure it out. But the
other side of as well has to mix. That really
the opposite of two hats. When the Rams are executing
and being patient in the first half, in the second half,
just one or two throws. Man, those red zone trips
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turned their nose into in the three instead of six.
I talked vents and then capitalize. And we're looking at
Jail's passion.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Before we Yeah, this is the beauty. Look at look
at all the green in the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I love it again. They he doesn't have to be
Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow when it comes to pass
in the middle of the field. But if you have
a pass chart like this where he's able to hit
a few whan you know when it's needed. This is
that's all you need you need to be able to
show that he can he can do it, and so
that the defense isn't they don't they don't have to
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feel like all they need to do is take away
the sidelines, hit a couple of you know, a couple
of them in the middle of the field, and you're good,
Like you you can do so much on the outside,
even you know, you can do more, even more on
the outside if you're able to hit someone in the middle.
And this is just this is awesome, awesome, twenty six yards,
three touchdowns. Essentially in one half of football, we would
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have a football plus three point three percent completion percent
percentage over expected. So Hearts continues to play Super Bowl
super Bowl. Credit to him, and we shall see what
happens next week. All right, let's go over to a
little bit of a hot topic ever since, maybe you
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can say since last year, but especially this year, the
Bears offense under new head coach Ben Jonson and the
much divisive Caleb Williams. It was a rough outing for
Caleb Williams in Week one Week two. Despite the score,
Like people think that he had a bad game because
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of the score, he did not have a bad game
against the Lions and this week against the Cowboys. Now
take it with a grain of salt. The Cowboys could
it looks like they had.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Cows, and it looks they have the.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Worst defense in the league, So take it with a
grain of salt. But at the same time, the Bears
offense did what they were supposed to do. Good offenses
blow out bad defense. So they did what they were
supposed to do, So you got to give credit to them.
If they had struggled to look mediocre against the Cowboys,
then you could kind of like take that away. But
like for them looking really good against the Cowboys, I'm
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not gonna discredit down not for how much of it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And no CD for pretty much most of the game.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, no CD. One takeaway as I'm watched as I
was watching the Bears game. Well, let me first start
by this. The Bears over the first three weeks, despite
their there's the despight the one and two start, I
think one of the like I think the brightest, the brightest,
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uh sign of how can I word this? The Yeah,
the starry song is brightest Right now is Roma Dunes
Roma Duneesa is balling. He is looking, he's showing. Now
why he was taken as high as he was and
was looked at as as that type of you know,
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top tier prospect while prospect in last year's draft. So
he is balling out and you look at the rest
of these weapons on the Bears. They're the receiving weapons.
They're starting to make a little bit of plays. So
I I like what I'm starting to see and what
they're starting to to build them. So I think against
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the Cowboys, I saw Caleb Williams that is starting to
get it. He's really starting to get on how to
play on time. In Ben Johnson's offense, how to stay
on schedule. You know, you still have I think, you know,
a few plays where you know he's still you know,
could work on it a little bit. But you you
saw some players where you're like, oh, he that that's
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a good job by Caleb to still stay on schedules,
you know. And and and.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Really with Ben offense, something that obviously the personnel is
not there what he had with Detroit, especially from the
live aspect, running back aspect as well, But Jared Goff
is capable. Jared Golf doesn't have the same order that
Caleb does. Caleb's arm talent, he can make every throw.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
So there's that release.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, there's no bladed grass on that field that Ben
Johnson can't use, and you can see it in this
space and that they have and he trusts the Caleb
to be able to make those throws. And that's rare.
It's rare, and I'm happy. I'm happy for Caleb, I'm
happy for I'm happy for Bears fans because it just
could be the start word. Like you said, it starts
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to click. I mean that Vikings game Week one, Monday
Night football. They were control of that game and they
didn't play well. Caleb didn't play well. Speaking he didn't
play well. But I mean the lines right now are juggernaut.
In the last two weeks they put up ninety points. Yeah,
forty five points a game.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We'll get them. Yeah, they weeks two and three, especially
for them, they've really come on. But uh, it's I
think that the first two weeks for the Bears, their
scripted stuff looked good. It was after their scripted plays
where they started to falter. But now you're this game
against the Cowboys, and again, I know they're like the
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worst defense in the league, but at the same time,
sometimes you need a good matchup to kind of get
you some confidence to know that you can do this
kind of stuff. And sometimes that's a spark you needed
to really get things moving. So it was a good,
good indicator. I think we started to see also, you know,
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Ben Johnson's schemes and and and creativity were showing. There
were there are a lot of like there are a
couple of interesting plays here that I'm like, Oh, that's
that's that's interesting, that's fun. So that's the typical Ben
Johnson experience. Uh yeah, rodays were playing well, Luther Burden
starting to make some some receptions, some catches. The roles
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for DJ. The role for DJ Moore is still a
little bit weird, like they're starting to use them kind
of like in that Deebo Samuel why.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Best in the Baield a little bit.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So you know, if they wanted to do I guess
they're trying to do that because of the the struggles
that the DeAndre Swift is having, well, I mean it.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Really could just give more carriages to mcgonaghay and then.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Guy, I'm going to get into that in no huddle,
trust me. But yeah, I mean that the offense is
starting to figure yourself out cals Loveland had had a
couple of good catches, so uh, anything that you took
away as watching the Bears off.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The offense particularly, No, it's just you can kind of
see it's starting to make sense. The game is starting
to slow down for Kaleb and that maturation of what
it could be potentially even with Cole comments uh and
Cole c Loveland with the burn and the fleet flicker
things of that nature. I was I just had to
look up real quick to see who the defensive quarter
was because I was like, I felt like prominent name,
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but it really wasn't the tip of my tongue at
the time. But Dennis Altum is the DC in Chicago.
So the other guy. We talk about this all the time, right,
we talk about guys who try out as a head coach,
doesn't work out good coordinator, but maybe not be the
best head coach. So you get them back to what
they may for, they may feel more comfortable with and
what they're good at. And I can just they start
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putting the defensive pieces together, start playing as a unit more,
and it definitely can help out.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
It definitely can help.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
So my echoing no, no, you're good, but.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
No Bears I'm just curious to see where going. I
think it's only the beginning. I think it's I really
think it's only the beginning. And I'm interested to see
how Burden takes this next.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I really like Burden. I was
high on him as a prospect, so I like him.
You know, I think dud dudes is establishing himself as
the top wide receiver there. But I mean, you know
how offenses are in today's league. You need two guys.
You need to like to to two studs on the outside,
so almost.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Like we need you need your one like this matchup freak.
Then you need that that good all around wide receiver
that can just has good feet, runs the right routes,
good hands, and can still win.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
But they just do it in different ways. One one
wins on just raw natural ability.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
The other guy wins on this technique and talent and
it has above average maybe nothing, maybe nothing super like elite,
but everything else is above average.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, and we can see that from Burden, and I
think that I think Burden has really high ceiling, especially
in this offense. So they have weapons, not short on weapons,
And I'm starting to figure out, but I you know,
there were a couple of plays I could have picked
from from this game. There was one free hit Burden
in the middle of the field, and I really liked
the design of that and the throw by Caleb on
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it was exceptional touch in the intermediate level of the field,
So I wanted to point that out. But the play
that I chose to I chose to bring up here
was the flee flicker. You know, we saw that that
was like the highlight game or the highlighted play from
this game. So we'll talk about that now. This isn't
like when you talk about fleet flickers, and I know
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Eagles fans, where when we think about flee flicker, we
think automatically, oh, Nick Foles and the NFC Championship. Yeah.
So the reason why this one's a little different is
because the protection that Ben Johnson runs here, it's interesting,
but after this madman and the way he does him
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doing this adds to the cell of it being a
run play and that it just makes him so like
psychotic in a good way. So usually you're just gonna
have a like a clean ISO or clean like inside
zone run play, you know up the middle for the
running back. When you when you get this this. So
like protection schemes right are are pretty simple and that
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you will you get the protection that you want. But
what's gonna be different here You're gonna see both tight
ends and I think this is Deram Smythe and Cole Comet.
You see one as as as a fallback and one
is in that kind of eighth back role. And I'm
gonna circle them here. You see, they're going to run
split flow, right, but they're going to not only is
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the one I forget if this is Comet, I think
this is Smythe, but I could I couldn't. Yeah, so
he's gonna run that regular split flow action. But then
this guy he is going to wind back around and
that is that's interesting and and like it's it causes
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a lot of traffic, but again it may it really
sells to the defense that this is run because again,
why would you do this if it wasn't run? Right,
That's what the defense is looking at. So because he's
able to do this, he's he really adds to the
cell factor of this fleet flicker. And then on top
of this is where the ball is eventually gonna go to.
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This is Luther Burden. He's targeted up here. So as
I let it play out, you're gonna see you guys,
look at that wine back. So like you have all
this traffic and look at everyone biting. Look at all this.
The only one that's not biting is the is the
middle of the field safety here where he's not the
post of bite anyway, or you're not to play the run.
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But everyone sells. Everyone gets into it. So you have
that and then swift. This is probably the only poor
execution part of the play. Yeah, he pitches the ball
back and like hangs up in the op like like
a rainbow shot, Like it's lobbed up, and you're like,
oh my god, is he gonna be able to get
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this off on time? But he's able to grab it
and just with a flick of the wrist, this goes
I don't remember the exact number, but it's like flick
of the wrist.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
This is like sixty He threw it from like the twenty.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Three and it goes all the way down to like
the fifteen. Yeah, seventeen fifteen. It's it's definitely sixty plus
yards in the air. That is phenomenal. That is you
talked about arm talent. This is being able to just
do that and just chuck it like that. That is
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It's one of the reasons why Caleb was so highly
highly doubted because being able to let that go. But
amazing play design and then Caleb gets it right, arm
of money to Luke the burden and that goes for
the touchdown as the Bears go up thirteen to three
after that play and the route is on rolling from
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there from there. Anything you wanted to add it.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
No, I mean, it's I feel like this is what
what that I get the feeling like this is what
the Lions felt like three years ago, like when they
started to click and they started to get it, you
know what I mean. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, it's fun. I'm definitely think the karate Kid celebration,
well was that I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
The karate Kid celebration my burden?
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Oh I didn't see it. I didn't the kreen cake. Oh,
that's funny. This is the passenger for Kilbern nineteen twenty
ninety yards four touchdowns, no interceptions, four touchdowns, no interceptions.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Also looking at the CPO actually with those status that
says that negative this is.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
That's what's a little bit weird. I'm not sure why
it came off as that I can try to find out,
but I don't. I wouldn't take too much into that,
you know. But he had a good game, and I was,
as I was watching this, say, but I'm like, this
is he's making some throws that are like like, gee geez,
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he's getting it. He's he's getting it. Trust me. I mean,
they're gonna still have bumps in the road certain games
moving forward. It's not gonna be like all just like
at some point, yeah, they're gonna but you know, he's
gotten better each week so far. So you gotta you
gotta give it to him. Gotta give to him, all right.
(45:43):
Final game Ravens lines turned out to be an amazing game.
I know a lot of people want to react to
the Ravens and say they're in trouble. I don't think
they're in trouble. I think the Ravens will be fine.
I think this says more about the Lions and it
does anything. And I know a couple of weeks ago
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we talked about the Packers right being the favorites in
the NFF North and how there were concerns about the Lions.
Two weeks later and the Packers lose a dud for
the Browns, which I'm not gonna like overreact to as well,
Like it.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Was, it's my fears with why they lost that game.
Jordan led had that interception.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
The offense looked so out of sync all game for them.
But like it's they have a dud and the Lions
two weeks in a row, like they're fired on all cylinders.
So things changed quickly in the NFL. But the Lions
look like they're they are still a force to be
reckoned with, and that's awesome to see that. That really
is awesome to see. You have to execute. I think
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when I was as I was watching the game, I'm
just like they are imposing their will against the Ravens
like they.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
They bullied the Ravens. I mean, it's it's going to
be interesting. I think they played the Eagles some time
in November. I'm curious to see if teams remain healthy,
that's going to be a matchup. And I think what's
being lost in sight is outside this execution from the
Lions standpoint, right, the Ravens straddled them last year in Baltimore.
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You know, so the Lions and Dan Campbell did not
forget they they didn't forget so that they were definitely
up for this game. And I think even thinking once again,
we talked about Stafford missing throws against the Eagles, right
lamar uncharacteristically didn't trust his protection last night, you know,
time making it. But what was his name? What's the
(47:39):
new DC's name, Calvi.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Okay Yo, you're talking about it in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Kelvin Sheppard, that's off to him. It looks like the
Ravens at some point once it was tied at fourteen
fourteen and then Lions has never looked back. It just
seems like both on offensive defense, Joe Moreton and Kelvin
Sheppard were a step ahead. Yeah, they were step ahead.
They were step ahead of the monkey. I mean a
b was out, man, No, it was out. I haven't
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seen anybody run like that on the Ravens in a
long time.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Ravens run defense is a problem. It's a problem right now.
It's the main problem for them. They are dead last
right now in Mina posted the stat but like they are,
they ranked dead last in some type of run defense
stats so far week three weeks in. And if you
think it's just an outlier from the Lions game, which
it's funny. I don't I don't know why people there's
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a little bit of tangent. I don't know why people
think they can try to one up Mina and act
like she doesn't do her research. And there was someone
on on Twitter that replied to her be like, oh,
this is just an outlier. If you take out this game,
they're not that bad. Mina replied to them and said, yeah,
they're if you if you take out this game. They
were ranked thirty first and provided film on it. So like,
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don't try to come for Mina. You're she's the wrong person.
The wrong person. There's one person. If there's one person
in the business who absolutely does their research and their homework,
it's me. No, So don't try to People are stupid
enough to still try to challenge her. That's not smart.
But anyways, Yeah, the run defense for the Ravens is
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a problem. They gotta like it's gonna be an issue
for them.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Come playoff timeall security where I think they said Derek
Henry had three three funnels over the last two seasons,
and he's had three funnels in the first three games.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
And in two of them they came in the fourth
quarter in their own territory. It's insane and you can
see him so mad on on on the bench after
that one. But it's just like, you know, uncharacteristic, and
it's you just don't know, you don't know. I don't
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know what's happened. But overall, I'm not too concerned about
the Ravens. I think they will be where they where
they have always been. They'll be in the playoff. But
they've got to figure out something. Like they last year,
it was their past defense that was a big issue,
and they moved. They adjusted and moved Kyle Hamilton too
to actual safety instead of Nickel anymore, and that helped
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a lot. So this year it will be interesting to
see what they can do to adjust and fix the
run defense. But so far it's been atrocial. So it's
definitely highlight. But for the for the Lions, uh, their
their run game so impressive. I mean, Jamior Gibbs gets
gets a lot of like the talk in the spotlight
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because so Monty is still there. Montgomery is still there
and doing things and you forget how lethal that that.
That is definitely the top running back duo in the league.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
I can't think of probably running back duos that I
can think of that with that dominant and that I
would have to go back to the Falcons of twenty sixteen.
Twenty fifteen they had and what was the other guy's name? Yes, yeah,
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that's that's the last time I could think of having
a two headed monster like that.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
I'm trying to. I mean, you had Kamara and Kamara
and what's his name? That was like, that was like
the ultimate to me, like in terms of the last
ten years, that was like the ultimate, dude.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
I was like, yeah, opposites, you know, But well, I
don't feel like my obviously Montgomery is that he's not
gives as far as speed, but he's not slow either,
I think. Yeah, second touchdown he had was thirty one
yards out. Yeah. And then before that he had that
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was a sixty seven yard run.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Almost went to the house. I was like, go, go,
you're he almost uh. And that was such a backbreaker too,
because that's the set that was the second possession that
the Lions had backed up near their own end zone, yep,
and they got out of it. Like, having it done
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once is already like a killer for a defense to
have done once. I have it done twice, that is
like I don't know how you can come back from that,
like that is such a killer. And yeah, he Montgomery
hit that hit, that long run and that was like
I think when for me, at least when he hit that,
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I was like, this is I think this is the
Lions game. It just feels like they have everything in
their in their in their signing, the momentum. So it's
it's interesting. But let's get to the play that I
wanted to show and again options here, but I had
to do the fourth down play and I had said this,
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and I know, like a lot of people, it's easy
to to criticize Dan Campbell and say he's he's a
he's dumb and an idiot, Like I know a lot
of fans that specifically when it doesn't work. Remember that
the one ago, yeah, where they lost because they kept
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going for it and we debated it on on Eagle's
Talk about like was it right? Was it? Was it not?
The certain decisions. The reason why I don't have an
issue with what the Lions do on fourth down is
because they're consistent. It is baked into their identity. They
like Dan Campbell has made it known and to his
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team that we are going for it. On fourth down,
no hesitation, like this is what we do. And when
you're when you are that consistent with that and you
set that type of mindset, you get results like this
because your offense has the confidence that they'll be able
to pull it off because they feel that confidence from
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the coach and you like, they have that swagger to
be able to say, you know, like with the Eagles,
it's similar, like we have that confidence of the Egles
that if it gets a third and one or fourth
and one, we're gonna convert because of like they have,
we have that advantage not only physically but but psychologically mentally.
It's just it's such a similar thing with the Lions
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and saying we're gonna go for it and fourth down
all the time, all the time, and and it's weird.
That's why I don't I don't complain about it, and
I think it's unfair to criticize them when it doesn't
work out. When it's something they always do right, you
can't nippick like it's it's something else. When you have
a team where they they're selective about when they do it,
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because then yeah, you can nippick about when they choose
to do it. But when you have the lions who
always do it, you can't nipick, you can't be selective
about when you're going to criticize him when going forth
down or not. That's that's who they are. So but yeah,
let me before you know.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Patient talked about the patients on when we looked at
the film Devonte earlier.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
This is this is patients as well, and past.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Pro has to hold up because this is this is
a This doesn't happen right away. This isn't like we
stap it and then armbros right open, like goes emotion here.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
He has to be patient.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yeah, and what what do you think is the reason
why he's motioning too inside like that?
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Just to get coverage the camouflage yourself. And also if
you look at look at his step and look at
the backfield, this is almost a cheat because he's going
to get full speed very fast from here. It's almost
like a head start right mm hmm and leverage out
of here.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yeah, yeah, I think that one. By him motioning inside
you one, it adds to the element of a possible
run because usually when you have a you know, have
a player of motion inside like this, they're they're doing
some type of blocking right right, the number.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
Is going to be probably be a toss and for
is going to come into block.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah, so that that adds to that sell. We talk
about selling that that run action, right, So it sells
to that, but also, like you said, like it hides
them and then it helps give them that little bit
of leverage to get by Humphrey and Humphreys he gets
called for the whole there, but it doesn't matter. Golf
is able to hit Saint Brown, beautiful pass, perfect pass,
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and he halted him. But like, yeah, this is the
details of again, like we talked about Ben Johnson doing
extra stuff to sell that, you know, sell the run
on the fleet flicker, it's the offensive coordinator's name. No
more doing this extra bit of stuff to sell the
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run action here on this four down there. Because everyone
that you're talking about everyone now the Ravens are all thinking,
look at look at them on the second level. They're
all biting. They all think this is run because of
because of.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
That right at this moment, you knew you fucked.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
And you're gone. They got you. So again, little nuances
like that really adds so much to how it play works.
And I think the Lions are showing they they're not
just because Ben Johnson's there. They're not short on creativity
and little things from the offensive side, So kudos to them.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Campbell, I think Craigs the environment where you want to push,
you push the envelope, you push, you push to the unorthodox.
All right, So I think the one knockout I will
I would want to see. I thought they would start
to try to encompass Jamison Ward.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
But in due time, Yeah, in due time, I think
he's his role has been established and he got his
contract extension. I'm not worried about Jamis. He'll get his
like in due time.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
And so.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah, Lions, they are, they're showing they're they're not going away.
You know, I'm still I still have long term concerns
about their interior offensive line, but we'll see if they're
if it's gonna be able to hold up. But hey,
like we've seen their backups when when they've had injuries
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last year, we've seen their backups step step up. So
it's not out of realman possibility that that interior of
the offensive line is going to do the same and
step up this year. So I'm I'm eager to see
how that's gonna play out and and if they're past
how they're blocking their interier o line does as the
season goes on. So anything else about the lines before
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we get to know huddle? Cool? Anything for you for
no for no huddle? Yeah, h I have something I
want to say. I have I have won and it's
gonna be yeah, but I'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
I think our AC Championship game could be charges coach.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
I would love that, just to have things changed up.
The Bills would be like good fans would be so mad,
but yeah, it would be so much.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
And I would not be surprised that the Chiefs are
forced to make a trade prior to the trade deadline.
I think for for for a prominent wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Before or even if it's not a wide receiver, I
think they need a trade for running back.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, I mean mm hmm for what they need something
that the miss for him not being what they thought
he was going to be really set them back.
Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Yeah, really because they don't. We love the checkout, but
like he's still limited what he can be because he's
not really explosive.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Even though he's fast, he's more of a plotter. He's
not like he doesn't have.
Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
That yeah, yeah, or that like that twips like he's
and then we know Hunt is way past his prime.
Richard Smith is not, Like he's still a rookie. He's
making rookie mistakes. You don't know what he's doing completely,
which is expected. And like he's a receiving back, you know,
like if he's in here, they're in there too, passing
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the ball. So like if he's in there, like it's
a tell, it's a little bit of a toell. Like, so, yeah,
they need a running back, So I wouldn't be surprised
if it's for either a running back or wide receiver.
But I think they need they do need to pull
off a trade. They're they're in dire needs. I was
telling I was telling a friend that like by the
time Rashid Rice gets back, it might be too late.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Like they can't be too and four.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
They need to figure out some way to get to three.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
And three.
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Because that that ground they might need to make up.
Like if they they face It's Chiefs Ravens this week, right, yes, yeah,
like I so.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Just think about that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
At the beginning of the season, three weeks in, did
you think the Texans would be zero and three and
four weeks ins of the season, either the Chiefs or
the Ravens are going to be one in three after
week four, No.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Would not have expected that. Would not have expected that.
But if I were to say one of those two teams,
like the Ravens are Chiefs would be one and three,
I would say that I could see more for the
Chiefs because of the suspension, because of you know, of
the lack of talent at certain skill positions, because of
the decline of Travis Kelcey. I would have seen that
(01:01:55):
more so than than the Ravens. So yeah, it's the
will be interesting. Uh my my quick for nohuddle. Going
back to the Bears thing, and we alluded to like
the struggles on the swift talks about running Rutgers running backs. Uh,
there's a Rutgers running back right now who is on
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the Bears who is seeing increased workload each week. So
his snap count in week three was up to twenty
eight percent, and you're starting to see him he's being
used not only as a runner, but he's like a
passing down back. They use him as a receiver. They
flare him out onto routes and uh, you know he's
in there on some pass protection. He's getting better at that,
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you know, if you take out the if you take
out though, he had one run where it was just like, you, guy,
that's really cool, but you can't be doing that where
he was breaking like so many tackles but he was
going backwards in the process. Yeah, and like he's got
to learn to just like, hey, that's awesome, but you
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gotta go down. You gotta just go down if you
take out. So with that, he had six carries on
for sixteen yards rushing. But if you take that out,
his his rushes were five carries for twenty four yards
and all of those carriers went for positive yards. And
to further to build, you know, to elaborate off of that,
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I follow Jacob Gibbs on Twitter. Is a really good
account with running back and wide receiver. No content, but
he says he gives us that where a stat where
the Bears rank first in the NFL and percentage of
running back runs that gained at least one yard before
initial contact. All right. They also ranked twenty seven in
(01:03:51):
yards per running back rush, which is a three point
five so running back with their average yards running back
Darvade George prefer running back to three point five. Twenty
six percent of DeAndre Swift runs have met initial contact
behind the line of scrimmage, so one out of four
Swift runs he's leaving behind the line of scrimmage. Only
(01:04:16):
thirteen percent of the non guy's runs have met behind
the line of scrimmage per next Gen Stats, Swift is
one of just four backs to spend three point or
three plus seconds behind the line of scrimmage per rush
monong guy doesn't have enough runs to qualify, So what
(01:04:36):
is all of that encompass? Like, you know, what is
you know, simple explanation. The Bears Online is doing a
good enough job of pushing and creating space in the
run game, but DeAndre Swift is spending way too much
time being hesitant, not hitting the hole and just dancing
(01:04:57):
around it and balancing. Like it's it's so crazy, see
how like he has this issue he and then he
comes to Philly and he looks better than he ever has,
and then he leaves Philly and then he goes back
to his old ways. It's so crazy. But like there's
been a lot of issues, a lot of like complaining
(01:05:18):
and you know, just people mad and frustrated with DeAndre
Swift and how he's he's run. You know, he's there
RB one right now, the lead back right now, he's
getting a lot of the work. But I think it's
only a matter of time. I think it's inevitable that
Kylen guy takes over and he's steadily seeing more work
(01:05:39):
as it goes. And if these issues continue with Swift,
it's hard for me to believe that by season's end
the non guy won't be at least at least being
fifty to fifty with Swift, you know, in terms of times.
But I think it's they are working him into that offense.
And you know, for your fantasy owners, if you play
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redraft and the young guys are, uh, the agent, I
would screw them up sooner rather than labor and stats
from on the bench. But yeah, the young guy, I
think it's it's inevitable. I think he's gonna get Keep
an eye out on him. They're saying, my guy, my
young guy is gonna have a role on this Bears team.
You just you see it. If you fall on them
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each week, you can see it. You can see it.
That's a tough I'm That's all I got. Pete. How
about you well, awesome stuff. I I really enjoyed diving
into three different teams and the it's it's really cool
to really dissect like how they're able to really open
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things up. And we shall see if the Lions, Eagles
or Bears can keep this up as the season goes on. Uh,
I'll be keeping an eye on them if you're watching.
Thank you so much for tuning into film the Lie
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(00:55):
abbreviated show today because we got several games we want
to break down, so we're gonna focus and make sure
we we concentrate on quality over quantity. We've got offenses
that exploded in week three, so I'm I'm really excited
to get into it and dive into what the film shows. Well,
(01:15):
my brother, how you doing? How how you feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I need a haircut? I know that that's that's what one.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I just thought one. I gotta change up. But I'm
I I told my barber, I'm like, I need to
I need a change. I don't want to do the
come over again. So I got it short and I'm
spiking it again and seeing how it goes. The wife
he doesn't really like it as much. But I'm like,
I can't do the come over again. I've had that
for years.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh yeah, No, it's about I go.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I go like two weeks. If I got something going on,
maygo like two weeks back to back. But this is
uh going on two weeks without a haircut and the shows.
Other than that, Man, I'm doing well, doing well. I
can't I can't complain. Uh, sometimes you got to be
thankful for the spot in the moment that you're in
while still looking ahead and being thankful for your past.
(02:03):
So you know, I think that's where the Eagles are
right now. I think that sums up what the Eagles
offense has been through the first three games and the
B three and oho and there, I say, trending upward
and more complex. And I really think the offensive growth,
not so much growth, but the capabilities of what we're
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seeing with the offensive, what we saw in the second
half when they were forcing a position to have to
play to win the game and not lose, to kind
of let.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The governor off a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And I think probably the most exciting thing is probably
what for me, is what Fangio is doing on the
defensive side as well.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's not being talked about a lot, not talking a lot, but.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
He's doing things that are not Fangio ask for things
that haven't been seen. So while we've been sitting here
waiting for okay, we want, we won the super Bowl
and it kind of seems like the offense is like, well,
we can just kind of wow, friends and repeat. We
heard we heard the excerpt from from nix Si Brandley Gown.
He posted it shouts out to Brandley Gollen where he
(03:08):
was like, Hey, the things that you're good at at
your base stuff, let's just get better.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And that can only work so far, right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Like, we've seen that before. We've seen that before, after
twenty twenty, after twenty twenty two and twenty three when
they were talking about the offense. We've seen his philosophy.
But the thing is we've a seen after that the collapse,
and we've seen how valuable bringing in new elements was
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when Calamore came in. So I think, you know, I
think it's about a balance between what Nick's philosophy philosophy
was before, but to still make sure you're evolving along
with you know, right.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And I only think so much with the offense is
actually an evolution, Like I said again, like I think
it's more evolution if we're looking at that and that
that would evolved. That somewhat is changing the phrase of
that's evolution right to make it mean more in that
action of evolving. That's more on the defensive side, like fan,
Jos is doing things that he hasn't done before because
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he has the personnel to do so to where with
the offenses, it's okay, like hey, like we got these guys,
like AJ said, I won't use this as that phrase
that he said, because but pretty much, let's let your
personnel do what it does. Lets your Jim and Joe's
screw the exs and OS doesn't have to be overcomplex
enabling us because if I'm not mistaken, they went into
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the second half not having a lot of passing yards
and I think both AJ and Devonte ended up with
one hundred and a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, it's crazy. What what how they will turn it
on And we're going to dive into the offensive phone
a little bit and talk about what we thought, what
our takeaways were. But like you know, with with this
episode that we have for you and you know, if
you're and then we appreciate it, We're gonna dive dive
into three offenses from this week that really impressed us.
(05:07):
We got we got the Eagles, we got the Lions,
and we've got the Bears. We we did Eagles last week,
so if you're watching us, you're starting to follow the show.
And then we talked about how like we dive into
other stuff outside of just the Eagles. That is that
is true, we do. But the performance and the game
that game was against the Rams was so good. I
(05:29):
was like, we have to talk about it. It was like,
you know, it's one of the main talking points, you know, nationally,
so like we can't not discuss it and and talk
about what changes happened to spark that comeback and lead
to that that dramatic win. So we're gonna talk about
that the Eagle again, but we are gonna we said,
we're gonna talk about the Bears and they're they're exposed
(05:52):
exploison against the Cowboys as well as the Lions, and
how impressively able to past two weeks and especially against
the Ravens on Monday night. So let's kick it off
though with our again our home turf, the Eagles, And
I've got a lot of notes from watching the film
Pete Uh, but we'll start with you. If you're going
to have one takeaway from the offense, whether it be
(06:16):
good bad, Like what is what do you want to
start with? What do you what did you take away
from from watching it?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That Actually the biggest thing I've taken away from is
jalen maturation. Jalen's maturation as a leader on the sideline,
being more vocal, being more involved. We've seen it after
I want to say, after the that aj touchdown, him
sitting over there with Singleton, him sitting over with looksact
(06:45):
Patula where there sitting, he's standing and he's just being
very vocal.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We saw the last.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Week a little bit when he got in he got
into Tyler scene a little bit during during that game.
I forget what it was against the Chiefs. I don't know.
It was a they had to call a timeout, but
something wasn't right, the alignment wasn't right, something was missed.
And he's taking that step forward to be that leader
that that what the fan base division had to be
because remember before, so he's so calm, he's so he's
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so collected, Like now he's growing into it to become
more passionate and letting and more confident itself and the
skills to let that passion come through. And that's kind
of what I've taken away because I feel like I
almost felt like the offense kind of all felt like that.
They felt like they were being limited. Right, we all
say that governor in the car can't go a certain
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speed limit.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
They felt like that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And it wasn't just we feel like that as fans,
but to know that they felt like that. As far
as when you hear what Jalen said and how he
spoke after the game, when you hear what aj said
and how they spoke at the game, we obviously don't
give it Davante, but it's more along those lines, like, hey,
this team is still a unit and they played like
shit offensively for the first two games.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Were really for the first ten quarters of football this
and boom here comes.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's like they had to remind the coaches like, hey,
like this is look look at our payroll, Like look
at that bankroll. Look at where this money is going
and what you have invested in it. We shouldn't have
to tell you to trust us, and we should have
to be down nineteen to be lucky to be down
nineteen in that situation. Today, I feel like now we
have to be aggressive because we were forced into a corner.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
So it's like they can still do it. But it's
really just the.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Uniform mindset to feel like, hey, this has been growing
this undertow when his tension has been growing for the
past two weeks and it's like, hey, why are we
doing this to ourselves?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, we have Sakuan he is he is a stud, right,
But I think what's not being talked about as much,
and you'll probably get into it, is that's a good
positive for me with Jal's maturation and how he's on
the same page where Avonna, aj and Devonte is. The
side of that coin is there's old lining to step
(09:03):
it up, brother, that's old line. Yeah, it's still better,
it's still better than most, but it's not playing to
the level it was to the first three games of
last year.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yah. And I talked about it on Eagle Stock last night,
you know, and I'll say it again if you didn't hear.
It's just people are wondering what's going on with the
run game. You know, why isn't Saque ripping off those explosives?
And you know, people want to point the scheme and
I guess, so, I mean, you can make adjustments schematically
(09:34):
because of the reason I'm going to get to, But
it starts because the interior of the old line is
just not playing well. They're not like Driggens has been solid,
but he's I would argue, not playing to the level
that he was last year. Tyler Steen, he is what
he is like. I think he's he's played two expectations.
(09:58):
You know, he's he's a better pass there than than
Makai Beckton was, but he's not the maller in the
run game that Beckhen was. We saw him Beckton last year.
He's just he moves people in the run game. Uh
So when you're when you go from that to Stein,
who is more of you know that that technician and
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just but he's not. He doesn't have that over overwhelming
power and strength that Maka Becken has. It's it's just
never and again. So I don't like I expected that
to be the thing. But if you're wondering why you're
not seeing that, you know from the right guard position
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is because in the run game it is like a
down greed. But then I think the biggest factor is
Lyndon Dickerson, who I have so much respect for. I
love Dickerson, and I know he's playing hurt and he's
trying to tough it out, and I again, I love
him and respect him for that, but you can absolutely
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tell that he's hurt and he's not. He is giving
up a lot of grounds. He's he's not moving people,
and a lot of these these breakdowns and the run
plays are are due to him because he can't get
any push. So that's the issues mainly the interior, and
I mean my Lota has his has had his issues
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as well, obviously with Lane leaving the game against the Rams.
And then you know, you have first Matt Pryor coming
in didn't play that well regardless of what PFF will
tell you. And then you also have you also have
Fred Johnson who came in played well in pass protection,
but Fred Johnson is not great at run blocking. So
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you have all those factors. And it starts with just
the on line, it starts with online. They're so if
it's gonna be like that, do you scheme other stuff?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Possibly, Like I would like to see more outside. I'd
like to see more so like get outside the tackles
a little bit that I think that would be good.
But at the same time, like, if Landon can't move,
you know, that's your face with that problem. So it's
just a matter of they're gonna have to play better
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to what we've seen the capable of, and I think
eventually they will so, but that's that's the reason for
the run game. I just think that we're gonna need to.
It's gonna take time for them to get back to
the level. But I expected to. I feel expected to.
But in terms of the film, for me, what I
saw and I know a lot of people are expecting
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this huge change, right like they're expecting oh, like in
the second quarter, after the ram scord that touched I
mean the third quarter. I'm sorry, after the ram scorre
that touchdown.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
There were problems.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
They were there were people are probably saying like, oh,
there are probably these drastic changes call playing wise or
play calling wise. There really weren't. There were some, but
like overall, it wasn't that drastic, so you know, to
start the game. Like, what I what I noticed was
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that I already talked about prior and I talked about
the line. Something that they don't not a lot of
people are realizing, is that there was a lot of
bad execution in terms of rout spacing and just just
knowing what they're doing, like they were, uh the in
(13:38):
the first drive where we eventually scored a touchdown. There
was that one play where Hurts is targeting Smitty on
the out route, but Dotson's right there and he he
thinks it's intended for him and he gets it's a
complete that route spacing like Dotson was running, probably running
the wrong route because started it Hurts, it is targeting Smitty,
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he's not expecting to be right there. And there's another
play later on another drive where a j doesn't know
what's going on, he doesn't know what the play calling,
he just doesn't run a route. There's another play where
I think it's Darius Cooper and Goddard, I forget if
it's if Gods the other person, but they're they're running
routes and they are literally right behind each other, like
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in the middle of the field. So that was definitely wrong.
So you have these execution issues along with the poor
pass bro that's just compiling everything and so it's not
just aschematic when it comes to the issue. It's it's
executions the players that really made compounded the issue. But
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when we got into the second half, I think the
major thing, aside from better execution, was you saw them
spread out more right, less dense formations. They put five
wide and they were five wide and three by one sets.
AJ isolated as the receiver, and because of that you
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had you were able to dictate a lot of one
on one, one on one matchups for AJ because he's
the isolated receiver on the backside. So that's where you
got a lot of these these big plays because you
have him isolated. So that's that's the major thing that
I saw is that they were able to be like, Okay,
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we want to get the ball to A. J. Brown.
Let's let's let's let's not complicate this anymore. Let's get
the ball a J. Brown. How can we do that.
Let's get him one on one, let's isolate. I think
that was like one of the biggest adjustments if we
talk about schematic adjustments. Obviously Fred Johnson coming in their
providers ability and pass protection was also definitely a factor.
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We're gonna get in to one of the plays, but
Hurt's getting time from Fred Johnson led to it to
be able to have that target, you know, in the
in the middle of the field. You called it to
this other one I'll touch on Pete and you called it.
In our chat you had said you want to see
more TV designed runs and they called I think like
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in the second they called like two or three more.
I can forget it was I.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Think it was two or three and it was on
the drive to take the league. Yeah, if I'm not
mistaken and that and that's if Sean McVay kind of
says something similar. He's like, hey, like after the games,
like they're very obviously they're very talent, the football team
and the finishing World champions, they have a lot of grit.
And he said something that struck a chord with me
and what you were just speaking of. He said, they
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want to play the get they want to dictate how
they play the game. They want to play the game
and the style of play they wanted to play and
in the first half was very conservative and we saw that.
And in the second half, kudos to the Rams. Based
off the first half, they pushed him into a corner
where it's hey, all right, well we got this, we
got this bag too, we got this, we got this
(17:04):
card that we can play where we could do a
three by one set. We got it all round wide
receiver and Davante, but we have a matchup Nightmare on
the other side, and now he's isolated with Darius Williams.
And it's not overly complicated. It was it was just
put the ball in his hands and let him go
make a play. Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, you don't have to over complicated when you have
a j. Brown and then the one day Smith on
the other side. So, uh, let's get to some plays
that really stood down to us. I want to start.
We'll go in chronological order, so we'll start with you know,
this is the theme of these. We have two clips here.
The theme of these are middle of the field targets.
And that's another takeaway that I had was that, hey,
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we talk about not we talked about Hurts not target
being someone who targets the middle of the field often
second half, like, there are a lot of plays where
he was targeting middle of the field and and pretty
much like throwing dimes, he was he was doing really
well in this first one. This was a touchdown to
Godard and if you're noticing, if you right after, yeah,
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so this is you have Godard from the number two,
the number two receiver of top and he's running They
do this often, just he's gonna run a post route
and they catch the Rams in some type of Cover two.
And I don't know if it's like inverted cover two,
regular Cover two, Tampa Tampa two. I've been trying to
research to see if anyone else knows what it was.
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No one seems to have a beat on what exactly
it was. It could have also been a breakdown. But
as you see here, Goddard is and we highlighted him.
I'm trying to put graphics into this now too, so
if you're viewing, you're watching this, you can see exactly
what I'm talking about. But Goddard is is gonna be
the target and he's running that post from the slot,
and you're gonna see after this the Rams are pretty
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much just going to let that happen because there's again
Cover two, there's some type of breakdown and it's just
wide open. And this is this is easy layup for
for Hurts. But good job by him to know that
that deep middle of the field is going to be open,
it's going to be able to hit Godard. So that
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run concept is or that past concept is something that
the Eagles have run in prior games, but on here
is where they actually hit. So I don't know if
you have anything.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That I feel like it was almost to the point
to where like this is just so much. We'll have
to see if they open up like this and they
it's early in the game. But the sequencing, the play
sequencing after after the A J play you hit this
because you pretty much hit that to the boundary side,
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to the far side of our from the camera angle
that played before. Yeah, you had this very next play.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So it's good. Just it sparked the comeback for the
They got things going so really good good stuff from them.
He this is the I think this was probably the
most impressive throw of the day for uh for Jenern Hurts. Uh,
I like this. So credit to friend Duffy. He noticed
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that they called a similar concept earlier in the game
that that Hurts kind of missed, and so they used that.
They called it again but added something to it. So
what you're gonna see, you're gonna see Smitty on the
So right now they're in two by two condemn Yeah,
now Smitty is motioning now he's the number three nobody yep,
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So no they're in the zone. Now see uh, Smitty
is going to be the eventual target. They're gonna run mesh.
So you see the number one. I saw the the
one receiver to the backside, and then I believe it's
the number two to the trip side. They're gonna run.
They're gonna run the mesh if I'm if I'm correct,
if I remember correctly. Now, this route, as you see,
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I drew it here for for everyone, and sorry lines
up quiggly. It's hard to draw on my phone.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Until you just pointed him out.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But but Smitty is going to be the one. He's
going to run this kind of like a delayed Yeah.
So you have the mesh and you have the intermediate
cross off of the mesh initially, and that's a common concept, right,
but you add this delayed crosser from Smitty and that's
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what's going to really open up. It's good anticipation here
by Hurts, and again the pass protection by Fred Johnson
helped set this up. So I'm gonna play as you
can see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And it's patience well as as a player is rolling,
it needs time to develop and the pass pro holds up.
Boom boom, yep, and you can tell after after Deon
goes emotion they're in zone.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It's just two dbs to cover three people.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, but you had to be patient.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Because you could have took the short enemy round.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It looked like I said, it was third or fourteen,
but it started ten like I said, this is execution,
all right, this is.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, you have dots and I think I can't I
can't figure out who this is is. Aj I forget
who this is. I'm sorry, but that they run the
mesh and you see Guttard here, he's going to run
that intermediate crosser initially.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Co right behind.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
So earlier I think Fredon pointed out earlier in the
game when they ran this, it was Smitty that was
running this route initially and it was missed. So they
built something on it where Smitty now is going to
why it's going to run the delay crosser. And it's
a good job by simitthy too, because when you have
a delayed when you're like that far into the progression,
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you can you don't have to necessarily be on time
with your routs. You can kind of you have a
little bit of leeway to be a little bit more
delayed and do stuff. So Smitty does a really good job. Here.
Look how far he's going to widen this. And because
he's able to widen that route, that really extends and
opens up the defense the secondary in that second level.
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And you can see the quarterback here. Look how white
he has to be to adjust to that route. And
because he does so, that leaves that window. And look
and Hurts is right now he's pulling the trigger. He
anticipates that gonna be open. So really good job there.
I love that they hit this so middle of the field.
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I'm telling you, Hurts is not that's not his word
forte right, But he's not bad at it. He just
doesn't do it a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
What do you think about like, even in this route,
if this was an option route with this looking fourteen,
I think that's fourteen or thirty four the rams dB.
That's weird. Watch he's giving him to the inside of
his own If Davonte chose at that point to run
a go route from that position, he has he has
the same option. Hurst's has the same thing.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
He can sneak it, throw it up the field.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I mean, but this is at this time this was
paid once again patience, right, we don't have to get
all back in one play, and at this point we
had got stops through the roll yep.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Absolutely, so I love this the design. One of my
favorite past concepts is mesh so I loved them building up,
building off of this and the middle of the field
target awesome stuff. The other one I the other player
I want to go to when we we get as
we get off of that, the game winning touchdown right
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to Submitte. And I know this looks simple to the
you know, the casual of your casual eye, but as
I'm watching this, this is what I pick up on.
And this is we talk about one of the reasons
why Hurts is so good now is because he's so smart,
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And this is one of the elements of or one
of the examples of why he's so smart. Like and
this is like not all qbs can can do this,
And I'm not saying like he's one of one, But
what do we talk about with Tom Brady? What what's
one of the things that have made in the go
Because even if it's a simple like short pass or
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it looks like a simple checkdown or whatever it is,
it's about making the right decision and knowing where to go.
The reason why this jumps out to me pre snap. Okay,
so AJ is up top, he's the number one I think.
So AJ is gonna run a slant with Dotson kind
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of running that that pick route. You would think, obviously
that's the first option, right, that's the that's the first progression.
You want to go to a J and that's that's
the right thing. But once you look at the defense,
and once you see the type of defense that the
Rams are running. They have two safeties back here. But
you see as I circle this guy, this safety, this
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dB moving right right. Because of that movement, Hurts knows
that he is very likely to be pressuring right, he's coming,
he's gonna come down and attack. Whereas this safety there's
a good chance they're gonna he's gonna bracket AJ. And
that's exactly what happens. So he Hurts immediately knows, Okay,
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I'm gonna I'm not even gonna look to a J side. Yeah,
a J AJ is gonna be bracketed. Safety is going
to bracket him to take him away. But this safety,
because you're reading this safety now, since he is probably
gonna come in on a pressure look or on a blitz.
That's gonna leave DeVonta Smith one on one. So math
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Davonta Smith one on one, you're gonna go to that matchup.
But it's that type of stuff that is why this
is a smart decision and good pre snap awareness by
Jyalen Hurts to know where to go to. So as
we see here that safety, he's kind of creeping. I'm
not sure why he didn't just come on all out.
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I don't know if like if it if he has
some sort of spy, if he's a spy on Hurts,
but pretty much his eyes are two Hurts and he's
creeping wine of scrimmage, and that does leave Smitty one
on one, and you're going to see him as as
we know, at the outright out route and hit the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So you see how if you go back a couple
of seconds, a couple of frames, even though it's it's
tight down here back more yeah, no, keep going forward,
back backwards, rewind.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You wind in where is.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
So look look how DeVante gets up the field and
right there at that moment, Hurts knows where he's going
outside of just being knowing the play designed, but the
execution that we weren't seeing in the first half. Look
at it on this route here, Davonte needs that space.
And then just look how the dB is playing. The
DB's giving him the boundary he's giving him.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
He's playing inside leverage.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
He's playing inside leverage. And then he needs to clear
his guy this to get out the way. So even
is doing right. And then at this point Jalen knows okay,
as soon as Saquan clears, it's over.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Boo yep. Just little stuff like that. That's what makes
this so. It makes you know, football so so awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
It seems so simple, but it's so intricate I think
it was. And then to go back to what Sean
Vay said, I I didn't send it a share, but
he said, Jaalen can beat you with his arms, his legs,
and then he said his mind, his mind. So we're
people thought coming out of Alabama this he was a
one trip pony. But now there's cerns how much he studies,
how smart he is. Whose brain has he been picking
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on in the summertime in the off season.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Who's he calling?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He's calling Brady, He's calling Payton like then once he
wants to be better at it all that competitiveness is
self driven, like he doesn't need any outside motivation. It helps,
it helps, but this is this is truly from him.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Wanting to be the best that he can be.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, and we are in a very fortunate position to
have this much talent on the offensive side, all at
the same time, and all all necessarily in their prime.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
That's the crazy part. They're all in their prime, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yep, absolutely game when you touchdown twenty seven, twenty six. Uh.
And I thought with them not hitting the two point conversion,
I thought that was going to be a bad omen.
I was like, oh my god, that's the game. Jordan
Davis and Jane Carter on special team, so great stuff. Again,
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this I think this is a good wag up. But
there's there's not It's still not perfect. There's still you know,
there's still some things to work on, some things that
don't make sense though. But I think they're starting to
figure out. I think that. And you know, credit. I
know a lot of Eagles fans don't want to give
him credit, but credit to Kevin Patulo to make these
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types of adjustments, whether whether it took hurts yelling at
him or not to do it. He's still you know,
he still ended up doing it. But they the offense
showed signs of life and it was good. Excuse, thank you, sir.
Any any other takeaways from the Eagles offense from from
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the Rams game before we move on to the next month.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
No, not not from the offense. It's just to come
back from nineteen points in the NFL. Yes, you have
to execute, you have to figure it out. But the
other side of as well has to mix. That really
the opposite of two hats. When the Rams are executing
and being patient in the first half, in the second half,
just one or two throws. Man, those red zone trips
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turned their nose into in the three instead of six.
I talked vents and then capitalize. And we're looking at
Jail's passion.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Before we Yeah, this is the beauty. Look at look
at all the green in the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I love it again. They he doesn't have to be
Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow when it comes to pass
in the middle of the field. But if you have
a pass chart like this where he's able to hit
a few whan you know when it's needed. This is
that's all you need you need to be able to
show that he can he can do it, and so
that the defense isn't they don't they don't have to
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feel like all they need to do is take away
the sidelines, hit a couple of you know, a couple
of them in the middle of the field, and you're good,
Like you you can do so much on the outside,
even you know, you can do more, even more on
the outside if you're able to hit someone in the middle.
And this is just this is awesome, awesome, twenty six yards,
three touchdowns. Essentially in one half of football, we would
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have a football plus three point three percent completion percent
percentage over expected. So Hearts continues to play Super Bowl
super Bowl. Credit to him, and we shall see what
happens next week. All right, let's go over to a
little bit of a hot topic ever since, maybe you
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can say since last year, but especially this year, the
Bears offense under new head coach Ben Jonson and the
much divisive Caleb Williams. It was a rough outing for
Caleb Williams in Week one Week two. Despite the score,
Like people think that he had a bad game because
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of the score, he did not have a bad game
against the Lions and this week against the Cowboys. Now
take it with a grain of salt. The Cowboys could
it looks like they had.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Cows, and it looks they have the.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Worst defense in the league, So take it with a
grain of salt. But at the same time, the Bears
offense did what they were supposed to do. Good offenses
blow out bad defense. So they did what they were
supposed to do, So you got to give credit to them.
If they had struggled to look mediocre against the Cowboys,
then you could kind of like take that away. But
like for them looking really good against the Cowboys, I'm
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not gonna discredit down not for how much of it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And no CD for pretty much most of the game.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, no CD. One takeaway as I'm watched as I
was watching the Bears game. Well, let me first start
by this. The Bears over the first three weeks, despite
their there's the despight the one and two start, I
think one of the like I think the brightest, the brightest,
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uh sign of how can I word this? The Yeah,
the starry song is brightest Right now is Roma Dunes
Roma Duneesa is balling. He is looking, he's showing. Now
why he was taken as high as he was and
was looked at as as that type of you know,
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top tier prospect while prospect in last year's draft. So
he is balling out and you look at the rest
of these weapons on the Bears. They're the receiving weapons.
They're starting to make a little bit of plays. So
I I like what I'm starting to see and what
they're starting to to build them. So I think against
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the Cowboys, I saw Caleb Williams that is starting to
get it. He's really starting to get on how to
play on time. In Ben Johnson's offense, how to stay
on schedule. You know, you still have I think, you know,
a few plays where you know he's still you know,
could work on it a little bit. But you you
saw some players where you're like, oh, he that that's
(34:45):
a good job by Caleb to still stay on schedules,
you know. And and and.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Really with Ben offense, something that obviously the personnel is
not there what he had with Detroit, especially from the
live aspect, running back aspect as well, But Jared Goff
is capable. Jared Golf doesn't have the same order that
Caleb does. Caleb's arm talent, he can make every throw.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
So there's that release.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, there's no bladed grass on that field that Ben
Johnson can't use, and you can see it in this
space and that they have and he trusts the Caleb
to be able to make those throws. And that's rare.
It's rare, and I'm happy. I'm happy for Caleb, I'm
happy for I'm happy for Bears fans because it just
could be the start word. Like you said, it starts
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to click. I mean that Vikings game Week one, Monday
Night football. They were control of that game and they
didn't play well. Caleb didn't play well. Speaking he didn't
play well. But I mean the lines right now are juggernaut.
In the last two weeks they put up ninety points. Yeah,
forty five points a game.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We'll get them. Yeah, they weeks two and three, especially
for them, they've really come on. But uh, it's I
think that the first two weeks for the Bears, their
scripted stuff looked good. It was after their scripted plays
where they started to falter. But now you're this game
against the Cowboys, and again, I know they're like the
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worst defense in the league, but at the same time,
sometimes you need a good matchup to kind of get
you some confidence to know that you can do this
kind of stuff. And sometimes that's a spark you needed
to really get things moving. So it was a good,
good indicator. I think we started to see also, you know,
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Ben Johnson's schemes and and and creativity were showing. There
were there are a lot of like there are a
couple of interesting plays here that I'm like, Oh, that's
that's that's interesting, that's fun. So that's the typical Ben
Johnson experience. Uh yeah, rodays were playing well, Luther Burden
starting to make some some receptions, some catches. The roles
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for DJ. The role for DJ Moore is still a
little bit weird, like they're starting to use them kind
of like in that Deebo Samuel why.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Best in the Baield a little bit.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So you know, if they wanted to do I guess
they're trying to do that because of the the struggles
that the DeAndre Swift is having, well, I mean it.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Really could just give more carriages to mcgonaghay and then.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Guy, I'm going to get into that in no huddle,
trust me. But yeah, I mean that the offense is
starting to figure yourself out cals Loveland had had a
couple of good catches, so uh, anything that you took
away as watching the Bears off.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The offense particularly, No, it's just you can kind of
see it's starting to make sense. The game is starting
to slow down for Kaleb and that maturation of what
it could be potentially even with Cole comments uh and
Cole c Loveland with the burn and the fleet flicker
things of that nature. I was I just had to
look up real quick to see who the defensive quarter
was because I was like, I felt like prominent name,
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but it really wasn't the tip of my tongue at
the time. But Dennis Altum is the DC in Chicago.
So the other guy. We talk about this all the time, right,
we talk about guys who try out as a head coach,
doesn't work out good coordinator, but maybe not be the
best head coach. So you get them back to what
they may for, they may feel more comfortable with and
what they're good at. And I can just they start
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putting the defensive pieces together, start playing as a unit more,
and it definitely can help out.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
It definitely can help.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
So my echoing no, no, you're good, but.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
No Bears I'm just curious to see where going. I
think it's only the beginning. I think it's I really
think it's only the beginning. And I'm interested to see
how Burden takes this next.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I really like Burden. I was
high on him as a prospect, so I like him.
You know, I think dud dudes is establishing himself as
the top wide receiver there. But I mean, you know
how offenses are in today's league. You need two guys.
You need to like to to two studs on the outside,
so almost.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Like we need you need your one like this matchup freak.
Then you need that that good all around wide receiver
that can just has good feet, runs the right routes,
good hands, and can still win.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
But they just do it in different ways. One one
wins on just raw natural ability.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
The other guy wins on this technique and talent and
it has above average maybe nothing, maybe nothing super like elite,
but everything else is above average.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, and we can see that from Burden, and I
think that I think Burden has really high ceiling, especially
in this offense. So they have weapons, not short on weapons,
And I'm starting to figure out, but I you know,
there were a couple of plays I could have picked
from from this game. There was one free hit Burden
in the middle of the field, and I really liked
the design of that and the throw by Caleb on
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it was exceptional touch in the intermediate level of the field,
So I wanted to point that out. But the play
that I chose to I chose to bring up here
was the flee flicker. You know, we saw that that
was like the highlight game or the highlighted play from
this game. So we'll talk about that now. This isn't
like when you talk about fleet flickers, and I know
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Eagles fans, where when we think about flee flicker, we
think automatically, oh, Nick Foles and the NFC Championship. Yeah.
So the reason why this one's a little different is
because the protection that Ben Johnson runs here, it's interesting,
but after this madman and the way he does him
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doing this adds to the cell of it being a
run play and that it just makes him so like
psychotic in a good way. So usually you're just gonna
have a like a clean ISO or clean like inside
zone run play, you know up the middle for the
running back. When you when you get this this. So
like protection schemes right are are pretty simple and that
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you will you get the protection that you want. But
what's gonna be different here You're gonna see both tight
ends and I think this is Deram Smythe and Cole Comet.
You see one as as as a fallback and one
is in that kind of eighth back role. And I'm
gonna circle them here. You see, they're going to run
split flow, right, but they're going to not only is
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the one I forget if this is Comet, I think
this is Smythe, but I could I couldn't. Yeah, so
he's gonna run that regular split flow action. But then
this guy he is going to wind back around and
that is that's interesting and and like it's it causes
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a lot of traffic, but again it may it really
sells to the defense that this is run because again,
why would you do this if it wasn't run? Right,
That's what the defense is looking at. So because he's
able to do this, he's he really adds to the
cell factor of this fleet flicker. And then on top
of this is where the ball is eventually gonna go to.
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This is Luther Burden. He's targeted up here. So as
I let it play out, you're gonna see you guys,
look at that wine back. So like you have all
this traffic and look at everyone biting. Look at all this.
The only one that's not biting is the is the
middle of the field safety here where he's not the
post of bite anyway, or you're not to play the run.
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But everyone sells. Everyone gets into it. So you have
that and then swift. This is probably the only poor
execution part of the play. Yeah, he pitches the ball
back and like hangs up in the op like like
a rainbow shot, Like it's lobbed up, and you're like,
oh my god, is he gonna be able to get
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this off on time? But he's able to grab it
and just with a flick of the wrist, this goes
I don't remember the exact number, but it's like flick
of the wrist.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
This is like sixty He threw it from like the twenty.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Three and it goes all the way down to like
the fifteen. Yeah, seventeen fifteen. It's it's definitely sixty plus
yards in the air. That is phenomenal. That is you
talked about arm talent. This is being able to just
do that and just chuck it like that. That is
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It's one of the reasons why Caleb was so highly
highly doubted because being able to let that go. But
amazing play design and then Caleb gets it right, arm
of money to Luke the burden and that goes for
the touchdown as the Bears go up thirteen to three
after that play and the route is on rolling from
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there from there. Anything you wanted to add it.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
No, I mean, it's I feel like this is what
what that I get the feeling like this is what
the Lions felt like three years ago, like when they
started to click and they started to get it, you
know what I mean. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, it's fun. I'm definitely think the karate Kid celebration,
well was that I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
The karate Kid celebration my burden?
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Oh I didn't see it. I didn't the kreen cake. Oh,
that's funny. This is the passenger for Kilbern nineteen twenty
ninety yards four touchdowns, no interceptions, four touchdowns, no interceptions.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Also looking at the CPO actually with those status that
says that negative this is.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
That's what's a little bit weird. I'm not sure why
it came off as that I can try to find out,
but I don't. I wouldn't take too much into that,
you know. But he had a good game, and I was,
as I was watching this, say, but I'm like, this
is he's making some throws that are like like, gee geez,
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he's getting it. He's he's getting it. Trust me. I mean,
they're gonna still have bumps in the road certain games
moving forward. It's not gonna be like all just like
at some point, yeah, they're gonna but you know, he's
gotten better each week so far. So you gotta you
gotta give it to him. Gotta give to him, all right.
(45:43):
Final game Ravens lines turned out to be an amazing game.
I know a lot of people want to react to
the Ravens and say they're in trouble. I don't think
they're in trouble. I think the Ravens will be fine.
I think this says more about the Lions and it
does anything. And I know a couple of weeks ago
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we talked about the Packers right being the favorites in
the NFF North and how there were concerns about the Lions.
Two weeks later and the Packers lose a dud for
the Browns, which I'm not gonna like overreact to as well,
Like it.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Was, it's my fears with why they lost that game.
Jordan led had that interception.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
The offense looked so out of sync all game for them.
But like it's they have a dud and the Lions
two weeks in a row, like they're fired on all cylinders.
So things changed quickly in the NFL. But the Lions
look like they're they are still a force to be
reckoned with, and that's awesome to see that. That really
is awesome to see. You have to execute. I think
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when I was as I was watching the game, I'm
just like they are imposing their will against the Ravens
like they.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
They bullied the Ravens. I mean, it's it's going to
be interesting. I think they played the Eagles some time
in November. I'm curious to see if teams remain healthy,
that's going to be a matchup. And I think what's
being lost in sight is outside this execution from the
Lions standpoint, right, the Ravens straddled them last year in Baltimore.
(47:17):
You know, so the Lions and Dan Campbell did not
forget they they didn't forget so that they were definitely
up for this game. And I think even thinking once again,
we talked about Stafford missing throws against the Eagles, right
lamar uncharacteristically didn't trust his protection last night, you know,
time making it. But what was his name? What's the
(47:39):
new DC's name, Calvi.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Okay Yo, you're talking about it in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Kelvin Sheppard, that's off to him. It looks like the
Ravens at some point once it was tied at fourteen
fourteen and then Lions has never looked back. It just
seems like both on offensive defense, Joe Moreton and Kelvin
Sheppard were a step ahead. Yeah, they were step ahead.
They were step ahead of the monkey. I mean a
b was out, man, No, it was out. I haven't
(48:06):
seen anybody run like that on the Ravens in a
long time.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Ravens run defense is a problem. It's a problem right now.
It's the main problem for them. They are dead last
right now in Mina posted the stat but like they are,
they ranked dead last in some type of run defense
stats so far week three weeks in. And if you
think it's just an outlier from the Lions game, which
it's funny. I don't I don't know why people there's
(48:31):
a little bit of tangent. I don't know why people
think they can try to one up Mina and act
like she doesn't do her research. And there was someone
on on Twitter that replied to her be like, oh,
this is just an outlier. If you take out this game,
they're not that bad. Mina replied to them and said, yeah,
they're if you if you take out this game. They
were ranked thirty first and provided film on it. So like,
(48:54):
don't try to come for Mina. You're she's the wrong person.
The wrong person. There's one person. If there's one person
in the business who absolutely does their research and their homework,
it's me. No, So don't try to People are stupid
enough to still try to challenge her. That's not smart.
But anyways, Yeah, the run defense for the Ravens is
(49:15):
a problem. They gotta like it's gonna be an issue
for them.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Come playoff timeall security where I think they said Derek
Henry had three three funnels over the last two seasons,
and he's had three funnels in the first three games.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
And in two of them they came in the fourth
quarter in their own territory. It's insane and you can
see him so mad on on on the bench after
that one. But it's just like, you know, uncharacteristic, and
it's you just don't know, you don't know. I don't
(49:51):
know what's happened. But overall, I'm not too concerned about
the Ravens. I think they will be where they where
they have always been. They'll be in the playoff. But
they've got to figure out something. Like they last year,
it was their past defense that was a big issue,
and they moved. They adjusted and moved Kyle Hamilton too
to actual safety instead of Nickel anymore, and that helped
(50:13):
a lot. So this year it will be interesting to
see what they can do to adjust and fix the
run defense. But so far it's been atrocial. So it's
definitely highlight. But for the for the Lions, uh, their
their run game so impressive. I mean, Jamior Gibbs gets
gets a lot of like the talk in the spotlight
(50:34):
because so Monty is still there. Montgomery is still there
and doing things and you forget how lethal that that.
That is definitely the top running back duo in the league.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
I can't think of probably running back duos that I
can think of that with that dominant and that I
would have to go back to the Falcons of twenty sixteen.
Twenty fifteen they had and what was the other guy's name? Yes, yeah,
(51:14):
that's that's the last time I could think of having
a two headed monster like that.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
I'm trying to. I mean, you had Kamara and Kamara
and what's his name? That was like, that was like
the ultimate to me, like in terms of the last
ten years, that was like the ultimate, dude.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
I was like, yeah, opposites, you know, But well, I
don't feel like my obviously Montgomery is that he's not
gives as far as speed, but he's not slow either,
I think. Yeah, second touchdown he had was thirty one
yards out. Yeah. And then before that he had that
(51:53):
was a sixty seven yard run.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Almost went to the house. I was like, go, go,
you're he almost uh. And that was such a backbreaker too,
because that's the set that was the second possession that
the Lions had backed up near their own end zone, yep,
and they got out of it. Like, having it done
(52:16):
once is already like a killer for a defense to
have done once. I have it done twice, that is
like I don't know how you can come back from that,
like that is such a killer. And yeah, he Montgomery
hit that hit, that long run and that was like
I think when for me, at least when he hit that,
(52:38):
I was like, this is I think this is the
Lions game. It just feels like they have everything in
their in their in their signing, the momentum. So it's
it's interesting. But let's get to the play that I
wanted to show and again options here, but I had
to do the fourth down play and I had said this,
(53:01):
and I know, like a lot of people, it's easy
to to criticize Dan Campbell and say he's he's a
he's dumb and an idiot, Like I know a lot
of fans that specifically when it doesn't work. Remember that
the one ago, yeah, where they lost because they kept
(53:21):
going for it and we debated it on on Eagle's
Talk about like was it right? Was it? Was it not?
The certain decisions. The reason why I don't have an
issue with what the Lions do on fourth down is
because they're consistent. It is baked into their identity. They
like Dan Campbell has made it known and to his
(53:45):
team that we are going for it. On fourth down,
no hesitation, like this is what we do. And when
you're when you are that consistent with that and you
set that type of mindset, you get results like this
because your offense has the confidence that they'll be able
to pull it off because they feel that confidence from
(54:07):
the coach and you like, they have that swagger to
be able to say, you know, like with the Eagles,
it's similar, like we have that confidence of the Egles
that if it gets a third and one or fourth
and one, we're gonna convert because of like they have,
we have that advantage not only physically but but psychologically mentally.
It's just it's such a similar thing with the Lions
(54:29):
and saying we're gonna go for it and fourth down
all the time, all the time, and and it's weird.
That's why I don't I don't complain about it, and
I think it's unfair to criticize them when it doesn't
work out. When it's something they always do right, you
can't nippick like it's it's something else. When you have
a team where they they're selective about when they do it,
(54:52):
because then yeah, you can nippick about when they choose
to do it. But when you have the lions who
always do it, you can't nipick, you can't be selective
about when you're going to criticize him when going forth
down or not. That's that's who they are. So but yeah,
let me before you know.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Patient talked about the patients on when we looked at
the film Devonte earlier.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
This is this is patients as well, and past.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Pro has to hold up because this is this is
a This doesn't happen right away. This isn't like we
stap it and then armbros right open, like goes emotion here.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
He has to be patient.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yeah, and what what do you think is the reason
why he's motioning too inside like that?
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Just to get coverage the camouflage yourself. And also if
you look at look at his step and look at
the backfield, this is almost a cheat because he's going
to get full speed very fast from here. It's almost
like a head start right mm hmm and leverage out
of here.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yeah, yeah, I think that one. By him motioning inside
you one, it adds to the element of a possible
run because usually when you have a you know, have
a player of motion inside like this, they're they're doing
some type of blocking right right, the number.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
Is going to be probably be a toss and for
is going to come into block.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah, so that that adds to that sell. We talk
about selling that that run action, right, So it sells
to that, but also, like you said, like it hides
them and then it helps give them that little bit
of leverage to get by Humphrey and Humphreys he gets
called for the whole there, but it doesn't matter. Golf
is able to hit Saint Brown, beautiful pass, perfect pass,
(56:45):
and he halted him. But like, yeah, this is the
details of again, like we talked about Ben Johnson doing
extra stuff to sell that, you know, sell the run
on the fleet flicker, it's the offensive coordinator's name. No
more doing this extra bit of stuff to sell the
(57:05):
run action here on this four down there. Because everyone
that you're talking about everyone now the Ravens are all thinking,
look at look at them on the second level. They're
all biting. They all think this is run because of
because of.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
That right at this moment, you knew you fucked.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
And you're gone. They got you. So again, little nuances
like that really adds so much to how it play works.
And I think the Lions are showing they they're not
just because Ben Johnson's there. They're not short on creativity
and little things from the offensive side, So kudos to them.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Campbell, I think Craigs the environment where you want to push,
you push the envelope, you push, you push to the unorthodox.
All right, So I think the one knockout I will
I would want to see. I thought they would start
to try to encompass Jamison Ward.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
But in due time, Yeah, in due time, I think
he's his role has been established and he got his
contract extension. I'm not worried about Jamis. He'll get his
like in due time.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
And so.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah, Lions, they are, they're showing they're they're not going away.
You know, I'm still I still have long term concerns
about their interior offensive line, but we'll see if they're
if it's gonna be able to hold up. But hey,
like we've seen their backups when when they've had injuries
(58:38):
last year, we've seen their backups step step up. So
it's not out of realman possibility that that interior of
the offensive line is going to do the same and
step up this year. So I'm I'm eager to see
how that's gonna play out and and if they're past
how they're blocking their interier o line does as the
season goes on. So anything else about the lines before
(59:01):
we get to know huddle? Cool? Anything for you for
no for no huddle? Yeah, h I have something I
want to say. I have I have won and it's
gonna be yeah, but I'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
I think our AC Championship game could be charges coach.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
I would love that, just to have things changed up.
The Bills would be like good fans would be so mad,
but yeah, it would be so much.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
And I would not be surprised that the Chiefs are
forced to make a trade prior to the trade deadline.
I think for for for a prominent wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Before or even if it's not a wide receiver, I
think they need a trade for running back.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, I mean mm hmm for what they need something
that the miss for him not being what they thought
he was going to be really set them back.
Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Yeah, really because they don't. We love the checkout, but
like he's still limited what he can be because he's
not really explosive.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Even though he's fast, he's more of a plotter. He's
not like he doesn't have.
Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
That yeah, yeah, or that like that twips like he's
and then we know Hunt is way past his prime.
Richard Smith is not, Like he's still a rookie. He's
making rookie mistakes. You don't know what he's doing completely,
which is expected. And like he's a receiving back, you know,
like if he's in here, they're in there too, passing
(01:00:42):
the ball. So like if he's in there, like it's
a tell, it's a little bit of a toell. Like, so, yeah,
they need a running back, So I wouldn't be surprised
if it's for either a running back or wide receiver.
But I think they need they do need to pull
off a trade. They're they're in dire needs. I was
telling I was telling a friend that like by the
time Rashid Rice gets back, it might be too late.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Like they can't be too and four.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
They need to figure out some way to get to three.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
And three.
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Because that that ground they might need to make up.
Like if they they face It's Chiefs Ravens this week, right, yes, yeah,
like I so.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Just think about that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
At the beginning of the season, three weeks in, did
you think the Texans would be zero and three and
four weeks ins of the season, either the Chiefs or
the Ravens are going to be one in three after
week four, No.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Would not have expected that. Would not have expected that.
But if I were to say one of those two teams,
like the Ravens are Chiefs would be one and three,
I would say that I could see more for the
Chiefs because of the suspension, because of you know, of
the lack of talent at certain skill positions, because of
the decline of Travis Kelcey. I would have seen that
(01:01:55):
more so than than the Ravens. So yeah, it's the
will be interesting. Uh my my quick for nohuddle. Going
back to the Bears thing, and we alluded to like
the struggles on the swift talks about running Rutgers running backs. Uh,
there's a Rutgers running back right now who is on
(01:02:19):
the Bears who is seeing increased workload each week. So
his snap count in week three was up to twenty
eight percent, and you're starting to see him he's being
used not only as a runner, but he's like a
passing down back. They use him as a receiver. They
flare him out onto routes and uh, you know he's
in there on some pass protection. He's getting better at that,
(01:02:43):
you know, if you take out the if you take
out though, he had one run where it was just like, you, guy,
that's really cool, but you can't be doing that where
he was breaking like so many tackles but he was
going backwards in the process. Yeah, and like he's got
to learn to just like, hey, that's awesome, but you
(01:03:04):
gotta go down. You gotta just go down if you
take out. So with that, he had six carries on
for sixteen yards rushing. But if you take that out,
his his rushes were five carries for twenty four yards
and all of those carriers went for positive yards. And
to further to build, you know, to elaborate off of that,
(01:03:28):
I follow Jacob Gibbs on Twitter. Is a really good
account with running back and wide receiver. No content, but
he says he gives us that where a stat where
the Bears rank first in the NFL and percentage of
running back runs that gained at least one yard before
initial contact. All right. They also ranked twenty seven in
(01:03:51):
yards per running back rush, which is a three point
five so running back with their average yards running back
Darvade George prefer running back to three point five. Twenty
six percent of DeAndre Swift runs have met initial contact
behind the line of scrimmage, so one out of four
Swift runs he's leaving behind the line of scrimmage. Only
(01:04:16):
thirteen percent of the non guy's runs have met behind
the line of scrimmage per next Gen Stats, Swift is
one of just four backs to spend three point or
three plus seconds behind the line of scrimmage per rush
monong guy doesn't have enough runs to qualify, So what
(01:04:36):
is all of that encompass? Like, you know, what is
you know, simple explanation. The Bears Online is doing a
good enough job of pushing and creating space in the
run game, but DeAndre Swift is spending way too much
time being hesitant, not hitting the hole and just dancing
(01:04:57):
around it and balancing. Like it's it's so crazy, see
how like he has this issue he and then he
comes to Philly and he looks better than he ever has,
and then he leaves Philly and then he goes back
to his old ways. It's so crazy. But like there's
been a lot of issues, a lot of like complaining
(01:05:18):
and you know, just people mad and frustrated with DeAndre
Swift and how he's he's run. You know, he's there
RB one right now, the lead back right now, he's
getting a lot of the work. But I think it's
only a matter of time. I think it's inevitable that
Kylen guy takes over and he's steadily seeing more work
(01:05:39):
as it goes. And if these issues continue with Swift,
it's hard for me to believe that by season's end
the non guy won't be at least at least being
fifty to fifty with Swift, you know, in terms of times.
But I think it's they are working him into that offense.
And you know, for your fantasy owners, if you play
(01:06:00):
redraft and the young guys are, uh, the agent, I
would screw them up sooner rather than labor and stats
from on the bench. But yeah, the young guy, I
think it's it's inevitable. I think he's gonna get Keep
an eye out on him. They're saying, my guy, my
young guy is gonna have a role on this Bears team.
You just you see it. If you fall on them
(01:06:22):
each week, you can see it. You can see it.
That's a tough I'm That's all I got. Pete. How
about you well, awesome stuff. I I really enjoyed diving
into three different teams and the it's it's really cool
to really dissect like how they're able to really open
(01:06:42):
things up. And we shall see if the Lions, Eagles
or Bears can keep this up as the season goes on. Uh,
I'll be keeping an eye on them if you're watching.
Thank you so much for tuning into film the Lie
we are. Our show comes out every Wednesday morning at
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(01:07:04):
We are here for you. If you have any requests
about things you want us to you know, to break down,
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So if you have any request, definitely let us know
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