A2DRadio Presents: Film Don't Lie 2025 Season EP:4 Giants STUN Chargers in Jaxson Dart's Debut and Colts Fall Short Bijan Robinson for OPOY

The Giants STUN Chargers in Jaxson Dart's debut! We break down how it happened and what it means for both teams moving forward. We also discuss why, despite the loss to the Rams, the Colts should still be considered a legitimate team. Finally, we take a look at the season that Bijan Robinson is having and ask: Is he already the front-runner for Offensive Player of the Year?
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00:00 Introductions
01:28 Eagles Discussion
08:45 Giants-Chargers Discussion
17:00 Film Room: Jaxson Dart
21:41 Film Room: Omarion Hampton
25:25 Rams-Colts Discussion
37:28 Film Room: AD Mitchell
40:56 Film Room: Jared Verse
45:05 Film Room: Bijan Robinson
55:02 No Huddle
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:32):
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(01:14):
of next year. It's never too early start planning. It's
your boy, Chucks, It's Pete mister o GP. What's up, brother?
How are you doing? I said this last night on
the Eagles Talk, But how are you feeling after the
Eagles victory? That many are are making it seem and

(01:35):
feel like a loss? Are you, like, are you happy
about it? I know we're not going to cover the
Eagles today, but like, how are you? Are you happy
about it? Are you does it feel more like a
loss to you or are you.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Me No, Like it's gonna sound so cliche, is right,
It almost sounds like I was a coach at one
point in the league. But it's hard to win an NFL.
It's hard to win in an NFL, especially in a
place in a time that you you have not had success.
So right, So the three out of the last four
times you played them, and the one time you played
them when you beat them and you had AJ Brown,

(02:09):
I think that was home, if I'm not mistaken, that
wasn't on the road. So the last three times you
played in Tampa, you have not won. Against the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. We thought it was company blew out, but
they still have to put sixty minutes of football together.
So there's always room for improvement. But we're not sitting
here room for improvement like the Baltimore Ravens right now
in one to three obviously do to injuries or two

(02:30):
and two, you know what I mean. So it's it's
completely different. You're getting these wins while you're playing with
your B game, and it's not even so much the
B game it was and that second half and I
know you probably hit the on this Eagles talk yesterday
in that second half when they stopped brushing or sending
extra pressure and they just start dropping seven and coverage.

(02:50):
What's the key to that running being executed with the
run game and maybe some screens things of that nature,
you have to execute. And they're winning and they're not
executing like you. It's like, it sounds crazy. They're four
and oh this year. I think last year at this
time they were two and two heading into the by
I'm not yep, and I feel like it's the same year.

(03:10):
They just they just they don't have any losses like that.
For whatever reason, the first four or five games of
the season, it doesn't look pretty. People are not happy.
They may be the scrountle, what have you. But now
they're winning and they have a two game lead in
the division. Regardless of what the aspiration is to go
back to back or to be number one seed, you

(03:31):
have to win your division first and your two games
up on the division. So actually I think yeah, because
you're two games up on Washington, because Washington is two
and two, so that that comes first, right. I think
the A. J. Dramas is overblown. Fans are saying they
want to trade him or this that and the third listen, man,

(03:51):
it's you. He wants to be successful. He's he's being paid.
Anybody who's being paid the amount of money and doesn't
have to dry to want to be successful success or
be a part of the game plan or be involved.
What I'm gonna side have running rounds for If I
wanted that, I can just take a check and just
go home. That's not when he wants. I don't think
that's what Jalen wants. But for whatever reason, on the fly,

(04:12):
the adjustments are not coming fast enough right, and it
felt like that game was about to slip away, And
I feel it sounds crazy. I feel really good about
the defense. We had a lot of questions about the
defense coming into it.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
It's not something crazy at all. I feel awesome about
the defense.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, like you when you think about it, Like listen,
they held the Rams last last week to scoreless second half,
and then they held the Bucks to twenty three points
regardless of no Mike Evans things. That's and they're still
there's still the youngest defense average wise per year in
the league. And so you think about they gave up
what twenty to the Cowboys. I think the Chiefs had

(04:47):
what twenty as well, and Rams had twenty six and
the Bucks had twenty three, So you're averaging twenty twenty
one points and allowed per per game. So far, you're
down your second corner, like, I mean, you may not
even found your true second corner yet. But I'm just
I'm just saying it's it's a lot of positives, but

(05:10):
people don't like the way it look the way it
looks proper English here. I just don't get that one
game at a time. I mean, they can find themselves
if they get over to Somemp Sunday and very wulnerable
game against the Broncos who played last night, short week.
I think it's a one o'clock game as well. If
I'm not mistaken old West Coast team, we'll get into

(05:31):
one team that traveled East Coast from West Coast at
one o'clock and gave a team their first win. So listen,
this team can very easily be five, six, seven, eight
and oh headed into the byo we nine. It can
realistically happen. And listen, it can realistically happen without them
playing their peak football, like they didn't play their peak

(05:53):
football until the playoff slash year. And that's when it
matters the most. Yeah, you know what I mean, the schedule,
it's toughest.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
So to your point, it's September, and I said this
on the this it's September. Things don't like the things
that happen this early and any NFL year usually don't
stick when it comes to the course of the year,
the course of the season and the season long projections
like they don't stick. Like it's it's so early and

(06:26):
the team is going to figure stuff out. They deserve
the benefit.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Of And three out of the four years that Sirianni
has been the head coach, they played better as the
year goes on. Twenty twenty three was right, right, that
was not. But twenty two, twenty one, twenty two, twenty four,
as the year went on, as they got deeper into
the season, you didn't have these miscues and it can't happen.

(06:50):
It just I like we talked about, I am more
concerned with why the run game isn't hitting, especially against
light boxes and we and this realistically, it's just what
Jordan Alota said. They're one block away, they're not executing,
but guess what they're getting. If you've seen Tampa Bay
treats their visiting teams like ship. I will say that

(07:11):
if you if you go back and look at that
Mallotta interview after the game, just pause it and look
at the ceiling wherever they're at.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, oh yeah Wards Ana, Yeah, that's it. Yeah, there's
another state. I remember another stadiums like that. Is it
met Life where I saw them locker rooms, the visiting
locker rooms. I'm like, oh my god. Or it might
not have been met Life?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Was it? Was it the old old Commander Stadium, but that.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Was for most It might be that might be it Field. Yeah,
it's just bad. So it's everything you said, like I
said a lot of it on Eagles Talk, but yeah,
it's really I'm not I'm not panicking. And yes, the
AGA office over blown before. No, And we we went

(08:00):
through a gauntlet of teams and we're.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Combined like nine and nine and one every team that
we played so far, maybe outside of the comboge and
we don't know, we don't know yet. Three hundred four
seams you played, they're probably gonna make.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
The good team. They're good teams. But even just looking
at the record, just just looking at them, they're good teams.
So it's all.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
For the Bucks, the Chiefs, and the Rams probably more
likely or not will win their division.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, and then you got the Broncos who are in
position to so yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah, that was
a quicker quick reactions to the ego stuff. But yeah,
let's let's dive into our first game of the film
group and we're going to talk about, uh, the you
you mentioned a West Coast team traveling east not playing

(08:57):
well in that one o'clock slay, and we're going to
talk about the Chargers losing to the Giants in Jackson
darts debut game. So it was when we were discussing
games to talk about. I think this was definitely off
the bat, one of the ones we wanted to discuss,

(09:17):
mainly because of the outcome. So you wanted to lead
off with this definitely. So I'll have you first, what's
your what is when you watch this game and you saw,
you know, we're down some of the players, what is
your first big takeaway from from it?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
You're looking at a QB probably doesn't throw it as
good as Russell, but can play within the sky the
confines of the offense and run an actual offense, right,
And that's what Jacksons are provided now. I think also
on the other side of that, the Chargers and the
offensive line issues, which haven't been presented up to this point,

(09:56):
showed their ugly head last week.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Joe All going down already already do and then the
first quarter or early I forget already.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Down with Shawn Slater coming into the year. It's only
so many blows for protection that you can take, right
And it's almost like the giants on both sides of
the wall got back to fundamentals and they were able
to operate within the system. Dable was actually opened up,
or maybe he'd been already call these plays and Dark
just executed right like we see we'll look at the
touchdown run here. But with that win came a huge

(10:30):
sacrifice for the rest of the season. Neighbors is done
for the year. That's that's so this may be promising
on one side, right, but then it's like, damn, like
what else could it be because now this case, he's
not gonna be ready probably I mean preseason maybe, but
he's not probably gonna be one hundred percent to probably

(10:51):
second half of next year. You know, it's a word
he can really trust it. So you hate you hate
to see it, you know, but it's one of those things.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned the ol line of the Chargers
and you know we you know, do All going down.
I believe it was first quarter another first quarter, Uh,
that was I think that was the biggest, I think
the biggest impact on this game because from that point

(11:20):
moving forward, you really and we talked about in our
in our episode we did after week one, you know,
one of our one of the things we talked about
when when we were talking about overreactions or legit it
was the Giants pass rush and week one they weren't
nowhere to be found against Commanders. But this game they
showed like that talent, that d line, that pass rush

(11:45):
showed out and they they absolutely took advantage of the
banged up Chargers offensive line like so many of the
of Justin Herbert's dropbacks from that you know, after All
went down, he had no time and I'm constantly looking
because I know Joe went down. So when I was
watching the film and and you know, the condensed version

(12:08):
of the game, I was specifically looking out for, Okay,
like how is this on one stacking up? And they
were just getting beat left or right like that pass
rush gave Justin Herbert no time in so many plays,
and that was the biggest impact. That absolutely the biggest
impact for you know, in terms of this game as

(12:31):
a whole, from either side of the ball or either team.
So you talk about that, and I think the other
thing that I really took away was, yeah, Dart in
terms of a passer, probably isn't like didn't do anything great.
Like he had maybe like two a couple of throws

(12:52):
that I'm like, Okay, that's a good time throw. But
overall he didn't really do anything great as a passer.
He was a little off target, you know, turned down
some plays, but at the same time, like maybe he's
turning them down because the coaching staff with him, with
this being his first game and him being a rookie,
the coding staff was probably like, if you're unsure, just

(13:14):
take off. So he they really did a good job
of making sure he was able to make plays with
his legs, not only through QB designed runs, but scrambling
like if nothing was there, using his legs to make
something happen, whether it be uh, you know, throwing down

(13:35):
field out of the pocket or you know, getting getting
yards for a first down. I forget how many, but
there were definitely a couple or few I saw where
he picked up the first down himself. And so although
he wasn't able to beat the Chargers with his arm
or really pose a threat, yet with his arm as

(13:57):
a passer right, his athletic ability as a her that
really show things.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
That Russ just couldn't give you. But now you said
it like I think outside we saw promising things from Dark,
but really the defense of the Giants but now for
the rest of the season is probably gonna have to
be their strong suit and that defensive line they're gonna
have to carry it. They're gonna have to carry the
weight of their shoulders, of their shoulders on them and

(14:21):
and and get out to the quarterback. Now Easier said
it was easy, a little easier because obviously Joe all
went down. But also at the same time, it wasn't
like the Charger defense is nothing like this.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's not that either, But the Venor is good, That
Charges defense is good. I think that they just weren't
I don't want to say prepared, but I don't know
how like they just didn't do a good job of
accounting for uh, for Dark's legs, you know what I mean.

(14:55):
So it's which is surprising because like you would think
that you would think that they would put more emphasis
on that because they know, you know, just he mentors
of college. He was a college he was he was
at Michigan. Yeah, so like he it's not like he
doesn't know how to defend college schemes and you know,
read option and all that. I just you know, he

(15:19):
for some reason, the Chargers defenses didn't defend it well.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
So those were eighteen twenty one, eighteen twenty.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
One, eighteen I believe.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
So it's just I remember on Sunday, as you know,
I have I'm watching the Eagles game and red zone on,
and I'm monitoring that, you know, the score, and you know,
seeing things here and there on red zone. I'm like,
one of the Chargers gonna just you know, put them away.
And it never happened, and never, never, never, it never happened.
And so you know a few other plays that that

(15:51):
really stood out to me. I mean, they had that
Dexter Lawrence interception was just a really good play by
Dexter Lawrence. Uh, and then the one and the other
interception that Justin Herbert had in the third quarter where
I think it was Drew Phillips he intercepts it. Like
that was just like bad luck because you know, you

(16:13):
have the Chargers running a pick play right and on
the pick play because of it, mconkey falls down. And
because mconkie falls down, Herbert is under pressure, so he
has to get the ball out quick and he's expecting
McConkie to be there. He can't see that mconkie fell down,
so he throws it and it's just an easy interception

(16:36):
for Phillips. So it was one of those things where
the pass rush combined with just really bad luck resulted
in a big turnover. So you know, plays like that
really really made the difference in this game. So any
other things before we get into the two plays from

(16:57):
it cool, So the first one, let's let's talk about
like I was, I was debating pulling up that interception,
but I did one because we talked about Jackson Dart.
I did want to pull up his run, his touchdown run.
And it's a good design and I like it because

(17:18):
it's not your classic QB draw and neither is it
like an RPO, and like what it is, it's kind
of like he has Jackson Dart has a pass option
if he wants it before the run option, So he
has the option to pass the ball. If you see
this on this three by one set, the three receivers

(17:39):
at the bottom, they're gonna run routes, legit routes, and
those are options for Jackson Dart to really pull the
trigger on if he doesn't like the box count right.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Look out for skataboos the lead blockers. So he think
once once right after right after snap, he was like,
all right, I got a full back pretty much.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, exactly, yes, you have that. You have the receivers
here the were running route, so that option is there.
But I'm going to go to the end zone view
here so we can kind of see it better. But yeah,
like the numbers are there. So you got you got
sick in the box, and it's just like you know,
math is math, right, you have sick in the box.

(18:20):
You've got one blocker for each defender, and it's just
too easy. So that yeah, scatter boat lead blocker, it's
just way too easy, goes down. I mean, I'm not
saying like I think Jackson Dart, again, they didn't call this.
If they don't call this, if Jackson Dart doesn't have
the running ability that he does. But yeah, it's just

(18:43):
very very well designed, very timely called it and executed
very perfectly. And Jackson Dart's able to open up the
scoring with his first touchdown as you know, as a
pros as a New York Giant. So very good design overall.
And uh, plays like this are are a big reason

(19:03):
why the Giants were able to upset the Chargers. Uh,
you know at home.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
So anything else you had for it, no, I mean
the good recognition of by Jackson dark good play call
bad defense by mentor. I don't know what the objective
was here. But also but I don't say bad defense.
But based on what the Giants presented with the three
by one set, to spread everything else out in the shotgun,
you have to be there, like that's just a lot

(19:29):
of space.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
M h, it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's a lot of space. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
It was first and time the fifteen, so they really
really spread it out to you know, to maybe get
get this one. Maybe they want they they probably spread
it up to get this type of box count with
it being you know, on the fifteen on first and ten.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
So and it's the only thing I would say just
the safety depth like this is a rookie quarterback, like
he would the cushion. He would almost make me like
he has to for me to give him that type
of respect, he has to prove it to me, like
I just you know what I mean, Like you said,
six in the box is a very very light box.
And I don't know what the safety responsibility is here.

(20:10):
It looks like this back safety closest to us the
near side of the field. His job is to pick
up neighbors at some point going across see here, Yeah,
see no, that's the linebacker underneath, so that's it's a
good play call. This is the drown defense for this
play call because they played right into their hands.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yep, yeah, yep. So good stuff by the Giants. I
think it very this one. And this is after. I
believe this came after they were backed up in their
own end zone too, like they they drove the field
and h The other point I was going to make
too was that you know, with neighbors now out, for

(20:55):
them to have success on offense, they're going to have
to lean on that run game with that you will
run game with.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
With.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well, Tracy's out for yeah, he got hurt last week,
so Scatterbo and Dart, they're gonna it's gonna have to
be them too leading that power you know, uh QB
running back run game. And then also Theo Johnson's playing
well for them too, so it's you know what offense
you're gonna get with it. They're they're going to be

(21:24):
a run forst offense and they're gonna try to just
have Dart make flavor of his legs. So that's what
they're gonna have to do for her from here on that.
But with that defense, if they can pull up those
types of performances, they're gonna be able to pull that off.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
The other thing I wanted to highlight, you know, despite
the loss, there were some good things that the Chargers
did this game, and one of them was Marion Hampton.
This week rookie running backs, this was the breakout week
for rookie running. A ton of rookie running backs putting
up good numbers, but Mario Hampton with Najie Harris out,
he balled out and he had one hundred twenty carries

(22:03):
or one hundred and twenty rushing yards on twelve carries.
And then accompanying that with thirty seven yards receiving on
five receptions and this one run. There's not much to
like really break down, but I just I wanted to
show it because it was just a really impressive display.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Of He had very good burst after the catch.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Oh no, this is the run.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Oh this is a run.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
This is the run. So yeah, this is yeah out
of this is zone run. And then you have him
yeah yeah, so zone run and then he's gonna see
all this garbage and he's just gonna bounce it. But
it's just this is all just strength and leg drive.
I love that. Let me rewind a little bit because

(22:51):
I love the the bend and the leverage he gets
on contact with number twenty one. Here, Look look how
low he gets. Yeah, like this is not a small
running with a short running back. Hampton is pretty tall,
but I like that he gets low to get that
leverage and then the leg drive here and then he
just keeps churning. This is this is strength. This is

(23:13):
all just muscle strengthening leg drive. So this goes for
eighteen yards, like eighteen yard pickup, just doing that most
of the way. You're not gonna see a lot of
running backs be able to do that. One of them
is probably the running back on the other side on
the Giant. Scatter Bow is probably someone you were suppouted
to do this. But Hampton is absolutely, you know, a

(23:35):
beast in his own right. I think Himpton's better than Scatabow.
But yeah, this is impressive stuff by by the rookie.
So I wanted to highlight that and say, hey, this
he's He's gonna be fine there. I know there were
a lot of there were some people worrying about his
slow start, but you know, I am not worried. He's
going to be a really good, really good running back
for the Chargers. So that's that was a you know,

(23:56):
silver lining coming out of that that loss is the
emergence of them Hampton and his breakout game. So good job, right, then,
any other takeaways from Charges Giants before you move on
to No, it's.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
One of those games in the VACUU where a lot
of extenuaty things happen. So what do you really take
away from it? Right as far as what can you
what can you count on moving forward because obviously Joe
All went down. I'm not sure what his injury stats
is moving forward for the rest of the season. Obviously,
you know, Neighbors is out for the rest of the season,
so the Giants have something to build upon. They got

(24:27):
their first one of the season. Rely on that run game,
and then really they got they're gonna have to rely
on the trenches. They have to they have to rely
up front on both sides, where the defensive line of
offensive line run game, and then fundamentals and and go
from there. I mean, because now you've got Slayton Wandell Robinson.
Who's their tight end?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Is that Theo Johnson? Yeah, you've been playing well for them.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
So like I mean, their schedules should should be someone
on the easier side. So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I mean, they play you say easier side, but they
do play us two out of the next four weeks
because we play we played, yeah we played Broncos and
then Giants another game of the Giants, so it's.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Like, I think it's Broncos Giants Vikings Giants.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
So you got us two out of the next four weeks.
So they're really going to get tested, all right. So
then the next game we're going to talk about a
really good matchup between two really good teams, one that
you we kind of expected going into the season and
one that we didn't cold colds Rams. And if you

(25:40):
watch this game, this was a tight battle through and
credit to both teams were providing like a really really
good game, hard going back and forth, and you know,
it came down to to the very end.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
So came down to not being able to count how
many men they have on the field.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
That yes, absolutely, And there's there's also a certain person
I'll get to in a little bit that kind of
you can say is the goat, And I say goat
in in not a good way of the.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Game, but number ten, number ten. Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
But let's let's start positive first on the Rams side,
I will say that you know I'm going to talk
about in after recover this game, I'll talk about someone
who would get my boat for our offensive player of
the year. But the other candidates so far that seems
to be the favorite is one and right now is
playing like the best wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
In the league.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
He is doing everything that you can think of, catching screens,
running the ball, catching balls downfield deep like he's doing
everything and he's unstoppable. I mean, in the first half
he had one hundred and twelve yards and on seven

(27:03):
catches and he had what.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Twenty catches now.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
For the year or for the game?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, because I think in my fantasy he gave him
like thirty eight points. It was it was ridiculous. It
was his was crazy. But here's my only thing with Pooka.
Could he do that if he wasn't in they's offense.
That's why I don't think he gets the credit because
he's constantly moving, which is credit to McVeigh, mismatches different gaps.

(27:29):
But could he played a wide receiver position like age?
Can he be as not as successful? But could he
win one on one? Impress? Man?

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I believe now he can. I believe what he when
he was a rookie. No, No, now he can. He's
developed that part of his game. I think that his production,
his stats wouldn't be what they were for most teams,
you know, like if he was on different teams. For
the most part, I think the Rams are one of

(27:59):
those offense is where they know how to use him,
you know, or they know that, hey, they can use
him in multiple ways to really maximize his skill set.
So the stats might not be the same. But I
think the skill, like his level of play, the type
of player he is, would have been the same. Like
I think that he coming out the draft, he was
someone who had the talent, he just flew under the

(28:21):
radar and we saw right off the bat. I think
that development and him being able to go from someone
who was just good against zone to someone who even
like toward the end of his rookie year, he started
to learn how to beat man coverage. So like, he's
just really developed. And I think no matter where where
you put him in regards to like what oftense you

(28:43):
put him, he'd still be the receiver he is.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
And now that's the difference for like the reason why
they moved on from Cooper. There's some overlap there between
him and Puckap. But now you've got Davante, who is
who we just talked about. DeVante's made his whole career. Hey,
you can press man me, play me zone will have you.
My footwork and my speed and my skills. I'm going
to get myself open and even when you think I'm

(29:06):
not open, my hands are so good that I'm still open,
you know. So that's that's kind of that balance to
what what Pooka brings. It's with all that being said,
all that being said, Colts probably should have wound a game.

(29:26):
We praised the Rans so far, Stafford all once again,
Hall of Fame quarterback. I know we're probably higher on
Stafford all time than most, but the coach should want
to gain and.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
So I mean, like if I'm going down the line,
I mean, my overall takeaway from the game is that, again,
both these are two really good teams. I think the
Colts have proven now and I know what's September, and
I said that earlier that in September of things don't stick.
But I also think that you can see that you

(30:02):
can have faith that the Colts are at least going
to be in that playoff run. They are like a
playoff caliber team. They are good. Like Daniel Jones is
playing really well. Really, this isn't like, this isn't the
thing where the scheme is masking his deficiencies and he's
hiding behind the scheme and the skill players. No, he

(30:22):
is playing. He himself is playing really really well. So uh,
And we talked all ready about the Colts offensive skill players.
They have so much talent across the board. Donald Taylor
is elite and Tyler Warren is a beast everything.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
That you know.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
They they expected him to be So there's so much
overall from the from the Colts you can be positive about.
So despite the loss, I would I would feel good
even with a.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
You got three and one Jaguars three and the Texans
got their first win and local minus c j Gs,
they defense played better soundly. Yeah, I mean sometimes if
the talent is talent, but the talent ain't listening to
the talent is out of place, doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely, But yeah, the on the Rams side,
I think there are a few things like I mean, well,
I mean, for the Colts real quick, one of the
biggest plays of the game that didn't turn out to
be like a game turning point because the Colts lost,
But what could have been Mike Hilton's force fumble when

(31:30):
he came in on that cornerback wits and he blew
up that the mesh point and forced that fumble. That
was phenomenal play, phenomenal play by a veteran. So I
wanted to give I wanted to shout out that play
because that was awesome. That was one like a high impact,
potential game turning play, and you know, despite the loss,

(31:51):
I wanted to to talk about that and give them
prots for that. But yeah, for the Rams side, we
talked about the DeVante Adams is doing DeVante Adams things.
He caught another touchdown pass. Kien Royals had a great
game today or not today, but he had a great
game against the gold Blake. Korum is consistent, consistently seeing

(32:19):
a decent workload still, which is which is cool, Which
is cool to see because he was like he didn't
get anything last year, but now he really is getting
a few touches a game. You know, as as the
RB two behind Kyron to spell him and you know,
he had two bad drops and receiving was never really
his forte as a prospect, so he had two bad jobs.

(32:43):
But despite that, he's still playing well and he he
does a good job of providing some things. He is
a little bit more explosive than Kyron. I think, like
when you see when you go from Kyroen to Quorum,
like you can see a the just another level of
juice and Korn is not like the fastest or most

(33:04):
explosive running back, but compared to Kyron, I think he
does have a little bit more juice than Kyroene, and
he still has really great vision, so like he really
provides a nice boost when Kyen has to come out
of the game, So you know, it's good job by Kurn.
I'm glad he's getting some looks. But aside from that,

(33:25):
the only other thing I have to talk about is,
like I said, the goat Adie Mitchell. Probably this is
that's probably one of the worst, like one of the
worst games in terms of getting the blame from the

(33:45):
wide receiver that I've seen. Like I'd say there were
three plays where he negatively impacted his team. The first
one was a Daniel Jones interception and if you saw it, like,
let me know your thoughts, because I at first people
would think like, oh, Daniel Jones like underthrew this, and

(34:07):
maybe he did a little bit, but I think Mitchell
should have done a better job.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Or as the receiver has to become the defender.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yes, he drifted a little bit too much and was
like he he let the defender get that interceptions, so
like he let them under he let the defender undercut
the past and I think he has to have better
attack the ball better in the air there, So I
maybe it's they're both at fault, but Mitchell definitely should

(34:37):
have done a better job. There, but yeah, I don't
know if you agree or not with.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
As we used to talk about this whole on the
Eagles Talk show, there's a couple's a couple of interceptions
where he said, like they like, I don't know, maybe
it's quest whacking that used to that used to be
like a quest thing all the time where you can
see it. You have to now become a dB.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Mean, get your body position. You have to become a
dB and you.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Gotta work back to the ball and you gotta like that's.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Bad enough for one play in the game. Buddy said,
you know what, I'm gonna do more damage.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'm gonna do more damage. I'm gonna do more and
like he's it's that, it's it's so unfortunate because his
catch that he has on this play was so impressive
and as he's pulling away and running down the sideline,
I'm like, oh my god, that's amazing. I'm like, that

(35:39):
is one of the best receptions we're gonna see all year.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
And then in one split second it goes all the
way and you could you could absolutely tell by his
reaction how he's chasing after the ball and the end
zone that he knew, he knew immediately that it was
a fumble. Yeah, Like, p I don't I'm not condemning
him and saying that, like this, this play is going
to define his career and he will now be a

(36:05):
boss because we've seen the Shawn Jackson make bonehead plays
like that college and he did it with the Eagles
seventeen years ago. Now, yeah, was it two thousand and eight?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
His rookie year was oh eight?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Oh wait, oh wait yeah yeah rookie ye oh yeah,
because that's when he went to the NFC janionship game. Yeah,
so Sean did it is I'm sorry he did, Yeah,
he did it is his rookie year. So I mean,
Rashawn Jackson obviously we know it's fine. So it's it's

(36:40):
not condemning it. But like I just and he's not
eighty minutes, not the first or the last to do this,
But like, I don't understand why players insist on doing
this stuff before they get into the end zone. Like
it's the most boneheaded and selfish thing I.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Could I or they get caught up in the moment,
but you just kind of be gotta like you've been
there before. Wait until you get in. Wait until you
see like you're on something that has a logo. Yeah,
then celebrate your job. Isn't the halfway finished something? And
like you said, it's not a definament of his career,

(37:19):
but this game, single handley will show like maybe patterns
of behavior laps the judgment. And I mean that's that's
two strikes. The third strike he didn't even he didn't
really have to do it.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
He didn't do it. He didn't have to do it,
and I'll he didn't have to do it. I'm washing
this over and over, right, I'm washing this run over.
And what's first, Jonathan Taylor is a beast.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
This is Yeah, he's had some runs this year where
I'm just like, she's he's Jonathan Taylor from two years ago.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, Like, this is unbelievable by Jonathan Taylor again, and
this isn't the first like crazy touchdown run he's had.
But here's eighty Mitch at the bottom the screen, right
right there, bottom of the screen. All he has to
do is seal the defender a seal block and like
even I honestly think if he just stands there, just

(38:15):
keeps him upright, just keeps the upright he doesn't have
to push him back on anything. If he just stands there,
I still think this is a touchdown. I believe, like
maybe people see differently, and he knows he's.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
So when John sails at at like the twenty yard line,
a d is already looking back because he saw the
laundry on the field mm hmm, and he's like, oh shit,
like this is coming back.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, like just stay there, like he's just just stand there,
Just just go stand in front of him. You don't
have to yank him. I just yeah. And even like
I said, if if he doesn't do that, I still
think Donal Taylor scores and maybe all the people say differently.
Maybe people say, well the defender would have would have

(39:00):
shed the block and made an impact on this running
length possible I can't. Obviously we can't say for short.
But I still think there's all all Ady Mitchell has
to do is just stand there and see them off.
And I think Jonathan Taylor I believe that. And so
it's just regardless of it, like, regardless of what side

(39:22):
you fall on, it still looks really bad on Ady
Mitchell's part. The fact that a go ahead touchdown on
like that with two and a half minutes left and
you get flagged to nullify it. That's that just like
icing on the cake. So yeah, it's it's not a
good look for Ady Mitchell those three players at all

(39:43):
at all. Like the first one okay, like not a
huge deal. The second one was a greedious literally.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
He's single handedly took fourteen points off the board. Yeah,
I think we took twelve six and six and six. Yeah,
he took one player took twelve points off the board.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Mm hmm. Yeah, and and didn't help to call cause
an interception. I don't know. So that those are high impact,
negative plays. And even if he doesn't even if he
doesn't do one of them, yeah, the Coults probably win

(40:24):
this game.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Just one.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
There's just one. It's it's, oh my god, I'm rooting
for the kid there, like I lonely, I know, yeah,
and you like I I would figure he knows it
and like it's it's probably really tough. So I'm I'm
rooting for the kid to bounce back. And I hope
he learns from this, and it would be awesome if

(40:46):
he has a great career after this and and all that.
But it's just it's such a bad look and he's
got to be able to learn from it.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Still, so you know, don't get don't want to get
in the head. But the other player, I want to
talk about it. For the Rams side, we don't do
much defense on here because defense is not my forte.
We row every once in a while. But bro, Bro,
Jared Verse, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Great?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
If you're watching this, jard Verse is right, here's number eight.
He's lined up as a linebacker here, Okay, Like, and
if you haven't seen this already, this is just not fair.
This is like, I don't know what center in the
league would be able to take.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
That, not from that and that's the thing, not from
that far out. And I'm surprised Daniel Jones didn't see
this and try to hard stack the count because the
center is out the try like he's literally for but
five yards away. He backs up to get another he's
almost away, and.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
He times it perfectly.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
He was almost like he was getting a handoff.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Insane. It's absolutely insane. And even when like on regular
downs when he's not getting like a running head start,
even on those his bullrush is insane, Like his speed
to power already without that five yard had is astronomical,

(42:24):
but giving a five yard running start to add to that,
Oh my god, I can't This is just I don't
know what Joan.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I don't know what Daniel Jones was looking at.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I don't know he.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Switched to something to change protection, like do something.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Let's see what's yeah, let's see. I'm trying to look
at Daniel Jones right now. Does he just not that
he's gonna Maybe he thinks Jared Versus isn't really gonna
come in, But I mean, like it's an it's an
edge defender standing up as the middle linebacker right right
over top of your center, right over top of you.
I think you'd have to suspect or taking an account

(43:05):
that he's probably coming in on a blitz. He's not
gonna play coverage. So I just I don't know who
the center was for the Cult. It feels so bad.
There is no I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I don't know. I don't know any d that gets
that much of a head start on any center that's
not going backwards. It's just physics. We talked about math
early math earlier. Just numbers. That's just there's more force
moving at a faster rate. Yep, that has momentum.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
You guys, again, for a guy who's bull rushed and
speak to power is already elite. It's already elite. And
then you add the five yard headstart on top of that.
That's just insane. That's that's not fair. So, like you've
seen plays, and Jared Versus also had like that strip
sack from strip sacked to towards the end of the
game that could like all but seal the game. So

(44:02):
he had a wonderful game. But like stuff that doesn't
show up on the stats. She like this, if you've
been watching Jared Verse, he is a beast. Like I know,
there's no replacing Aaron Donald because he's Aaron Donald is generational. Uh,
but the Rams did a good job doing their best
and finding another elite uh defensive lineman because Jared Versus

(44:26):
is absolutely next. He's he's one of the future like
stars at the position. So it's not even just star.
He's a future superstar even even like if he's not
already turning into one. So yeah, Jared Versus is unreal.
It's unreal that what he's been able to do. So
that was just that was nuts. That was insane. That

(44:46):
was insane. I had to.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
I had to show that it's to call the timing,
the lack of awareness from the quarterback. Everything this matched up.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I'm surprised Jones and the New York John tun for that.
Probably a turnover, right, I think so too.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I think so too. All Right, so let's get to
our last film room segment and and we don't We're
not going to dive deep into the game. But I
did want to. I said in when we were recapping
the Rams Colts game that Nakula is inconsiderate. You know,
we're probably like the one of the people's favorite two
for officer Player of the year. My pick this guy

(45:27):
would be number seven on the Atlanta Falcons. Bijon Robinson
is having a year. He's having a year, and against
the the Commanders, he had what's up decent run defense.

(45:49):
He had seventy five yards rushing on seventeen carries and
a touchdown. Uh, but he also had one hundred and
six yards receiving on four catches. This is you remember
you remember talking about Jon when.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
He says like he's next.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
He's next, he said, he's the next one. There's no
he said, Also, there's no one that has better cuts
than Bejon and I one thousand percent agree with take
on Barkley, and I'm going to show uh. I had
other other clips that that are posted on my Twitter.
So if you're watching you want to check out more
of my my breakdowns and more of my clips of

(46:30):
of Jon or any running backs, just just check out
my Twitter. But his footwork is.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Is I mean, there's just the one cut that we have,
the one player we're gonna look at. I believe it
doesn't look like he touches the bottom of his feet
like he's on the He's on the balls of his
feet the whole time.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
The whole time, balls fee and like it's it's awesome,
I think. So on this outside zone run, what is
amazing is he's gonna stick on this diagonal path, but
he's gonna work his way around the number thirty nine
and around that block. But it looks so effortless, as
if like it doesn't it's so seamless, as if like

(47:14):
it doesn't bother him at all. It's just like, all right,
he's there, I'm just gonna easily go around it. And
he the ability to smoothly string together those two, those
two cuts and really not lose any not not lose
much momentum and to accelerate out of it like that.

(47:35):
That's it's so so rare to be able to cut
like that. And and he he makes another cut inside on.
I think that's Bobby Wagner, but like, yeah, this is
It's it's not that other people, other running backs wouldn't
be able to do this. It's the way he looks
when he's doing it again, it looks so natural and seamless.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
It's it's was this the same job as his touchdown?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Ra I do not think so. I think it's separate,
but I'm not one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
It's right because the first touchdown was Drake London.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's separate. But yeah, the cuts
there are are insane. But this is his touchdown run
here and we talk about footwork behind the line of
scrimmage and I'll let this play out first so you
get so viewers, can it's so smooth for a guy
his size that not again, it's a guy moving like

(48:29):
that his size, It's it's Saquon Esk and it's just
it's insane. Like it's so we talk about here, we
talk about or I talk about footwork behind the line
of scrimmage, you know when when you're operating behind the
line of scrimmage, like footwork and footwork is so important

(48:51):
when you're tying it in with your vision because there's
there are a lot of running backs whose footwork won't
really be efficient, Like they'll make either a cut that's
too too wide to you know, too drastic, too too
much space, or they'll make a cut where they won't

(49:12):
cover a dump space to get into the other gap.
Look at the rhythm and pacing that Bijon has here
before he gets up field, Like it's it's like poetry,
like you would think, like you see like these these
running backs train right in the off season and they're
running around cones. This is what it looks like. He's

(49:33):
just doing a cone drill.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
The you can kind of see he sees a lane
if he as soon as he gets the ball he
can he knows he can probably get four or five
yards if he just goes straight and takes that first
lane and he sees but the vision, he literally sets
up the cutback block on his own right here, cut
black pool because he knows he has seventy one come
crashing down, so he sees that first initial hole. All right,

(49:57):
four five, six yorts. If it was a tighter game,
I'll just take that. But I know if I set
this up, I have this.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Cutback now, yeah, this cutback here, and then look you
see how like that that hop step and immediately he's
getting downfield immediately, so he knows. So like a lot
of running backs don't make this cut and they'll not
get immediately up so like they won't be able to
string those cuts together. But but Bijon is able to

(50:26):
just seamlessly in a rhythm, just get up there. And
then once he's in that second level, this the contact
balance and the strength to just fight through. I think
that's like three defenders who's tackles he sheds. That's just
you know, you have the footwork and now you have
the power or the strength and the contact balance. That's
that's special. That's absolutely special. It's footwork behind the line

(50:50):
of scrimmage. Just set up blocks to tie it in
with your vision is so important. And when you watch them,
a lot of running backs like you don't really see
that a lot and being able to put that together.
One of the other running backs that I thought was
a lead at it too. Before was Nick Chubb. You

(51:12):
had Nick Chubb, who's in his prime, the footwork and
the vision to be able to do stuff like this.
That's that was another running back who was awesome at it.
But I think with Bjon he's even more physically gifted
than Nick Chubb was. So it's it's just amazing to watch.
But not only did like Bijon's run. You know what

(51:32):
he's able to do as a runner, obviously what he's
ever able to do as a receiver. I mentioned he
had one hundred six stars receiving. I am very happy
that the Atlanta Falcons decide and know or or like
they make it an emphasis to use him as a
receiver and not just a run. They're made their maximiz

(51:56):
This is a really good design too. This is obviously
designed for Bejon. But you look at the bottom two receivers.
This is like a double pick and they're going to
isolate the linebacker that has man coverage on on Bjon
and as you see here, he's gonna motion in and
then they think Bobby. I think even without the pick,

(52:22):
I don't think Bobby Wider is gonna get there. But
the picks, the two picks here obviously, do just make
sure it doesn't happen. So, I mean, you have him.
He has to work through these two receivers. I forget,
I don't know who this one is, but that's Drake
London the other one at the bottom. But that linebacker
has to work through both of this and that's just
going to open up so much face for this is

(52:45):
just pitch and catch almost and just he's he's out
the block.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I think be made a made a joke after the
game that he's gonna get fined by his teammates for
getting caught from beyond.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Like, I don't know why he didn't cut it back
to the midfield the score. He could have.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
He could have, I would have. Maybe he thought that
he didn't need to. Maybe he thought that like, hey,
I'm gonna outrun him, and then he just you know,
he wasn't able to. But I mean I always say,
as a running back, they you know, cut it back
if you need to, if you can. But hey, regardless, amazing, amazing.
But the other rep I want to show here, like

(53:25):
he's no, he's he's in the backfield where he's he's
spaced out to the left of the formation over went
a little bit. So you see him here and this
is going to give him a better angle, better leverage
to set up this option route. But it's not necessarily
the route. But look at him. That's a receiver, bro,
Like that is a receiver. He looks like a receiver

(53:47):
to be able to go up and I'll pause it
right when he when he gets the ball, but like
this is receiver type stuff to be able to extend.
And remember remember in week one talked about I thought
about running backs will to catch the ball away from
their frame. This is again, this is Bijon's another one
of them to be able to go up and snatch
it like that boom. That's the Falcons are doing the

(54:13):
right thing in making sure he's he's used as a
receiver too, because that.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
They got London involved. And now the penis his mechanics
if you can figure it out and be more consistent
and may have something to say in the NFC.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
So yeah, Penis had a really bad game and forget
what was it against the Panthers. He bounced back against
the well yeah against the Panthers, but he bounced back
against the Commanders. So yeah, yeah, they were so bijon highlight.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I I.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Might be in the minority when I say he'd get
my vote for offensive player of the year so far
early Kennedy, but I stick by it. It's just he
is already like here one elite. Just he's up there.
He's so good.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
He's so good.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
All right, no huddle before we wrap it up first one,
I have we talked a little bit about it in
our chat because I know you you poise a question,
so we'll kind of just continue that a little bit.
But man, Cowboys forty forty tie no defense. Uh, this

(55:25):
felt more though, like a loss for the Packers than anything.
I think this is more so of a bad look
for the Packers and then than it is a good look.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I don't. I do want, like I do give credit
to the Cowboys offense because I think that put out
of his mind, and credit to him, and credit to Pickens,
who is an ultra talent wide receiver as well. So
they played so well, and.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
So I want to take that inn account and and
give them their credit. But the Package defense, it's like
they have concerns. If there's one concern I have about them,
because overall I'm not worried about them.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
I still think they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
To be one of the weakness exposed.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Weakness in the secondary was exposed. So that would be
my one takeaway from this game where the Package is
just that they've got to do something about the cornerbacks.
But yeah, that's that's pretty much it. But like, what
is your your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (56:30):
I kind of That's why I put it with a question,
like from this game, what do we take away from it?
Do we take away the Cowboys may not be as
bad as we thought or because they scored forty, But
if I'm a Package fan as well, I kind of know, like,
all right, I'm down to my third string corner and
we still put a forty, right, But it's not tie,

(56:50):
so it's not it's kind of it's not purgatory, so
it's not the middle of the road. But you don't.
It's kind of made you that aware, like, Okay, maybe
we need we have some things we need to fix,
right because you come off the loss to the Cleveland
Browns last week, and I mean, hey, the clean Browns
defenses was decent, but your NFC North rivals put up
thirty four on them, you know what I mean? So

(57:15):
it's more so Packers have more work to do. We'll
see if Dallas, if it's real, if it's legit or not.
You know, we'll see. Like I said, they have to
do it outside of Jerryward, they're all they're a completely
different team when you're playing at Jerrywall. Yeah, you know
what I mean. And then put But if i'm them,
I'm taking some things. I'm like, Okay, this is good work.
Like you said, Javonte Williams. How they able to be

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run the ball effectively? No, CD Lamb didn't stop the
passing offense. Yeah, yeah, I mean they went They relied
on Jake Ferguson, they relied on pickings. So we'll see
the Packers. I think they'll be all right. Dallas may
be able to seek it as a wildcard team. I
mean they have to. They're not catching the Eagles for
the division. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah, I don't see. I still don't know. I can't
say overall that what the Cowboys have been doing surprises me. Uh,
They're they're pretty much exactly. I mean, yeah, they don't
have Lamb, so that that. But I think overall there's
still what I expected them to be there they their

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offense is going to have to carry them, and their
offense is able to. I think they have the talent.
Uh so that's not that doesn't surprise me, and the
defense doesn't surprise them. I said it without one, without Micah,
just could be the worst defense in the league. And
I think it's showing it. And I don't that what

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they can do. Demonson Snati.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, but it's crazy because like they go back to
the Jerry world port right, don't me wrong? Packers decent.
They put a forty the week before you played probably
you played the Bears and you didn't your offense didn't
look like that. I mean the game got kind of
a little out of hand early.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
But yeah, yeah, outside of she's just said, you take
them out of Texas and they different. I hear you.
I mean that's a fair point. That's a fair point,
and I think that just goes into I don't I
don't think that if I were to, if I if
you were to ask me to re rank my predictions
for the NFC East, I wouldn't change a thing. Yet

(59:22):
I still wouldn't change I think the Cowboys are lost.
I don't again to ask that offense to carry them
to the lengths that they have to to make up
for the deficiencies on the defense. I don't think they're
going to be able to win enough games that way.
And and you're adding the factor, like you said, on
the road, the offense is different. So if you're adding
the factor in that, if there, if that offense is

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only going to be high octane at home, how many
games are gonna are they gonna win? So you know,
they have a game like this at home where they're
able to pull off a forty forty tigh and and
kudos to them, but the problems are what they are.
I don't nothing has really that's come out with me

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so or nothing has really surprised me for anything. You
have for no audo before getting my second one?

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Hey man, listen, I don't know when the last time
the Bears got one two games in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Hey, hey, look at that. And this was an ugly game.
They weren't really playing that well on offense or defense.
Well you know, they had some takeaways, but yeah, that
end of the game drive Caleb Williams driving down and
the go ahead touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
So yeah, I mean, and Dody is legit. It's good
to see it's it's it's good to see. It's it's
good to see because Caleb for right, wrong or difference,
some of his own doing something obviously not unjustified. Who
are starting to proof people wrong, no, starting to show
that hey I am that guy, like I am this

(01:00:56):
person right, like I am what they say I am.
All right, So just wanted to keep building and like
I said, we said it if the Bears can play
halfway decent NFC nor maybe one of the toughest visions of.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Football, and yeah, yeah, because I don't think they're going to.
I think we'd agree that the Bears. We don't think
the Bears are gonna they overtake the lines of the Packers,
but they're gonna put up a fight. I think towards
the end the Yeah, they're not gonna be a cake walk.
I think they're gonna make things tough.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
So you know we've said it last week when we
highlighted that game, is that they're gonna still be bumps
in the room for the Bears offense. And it's not
gonna be all like Perft. You know, it's not gonna
get better at each and every week, but over all
that improvement you're seeing it, and I think this is
a good win for them in the sense that, like,

(01:01:45):
I know, Bears fans, I know there are some Bears
fans that are like, it still doesn't look good, blah
blah blah, But hey, this isn't This is the type
of win you would not have won under Matt Eberfleuce.
You would have found a way to lose.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
This team, and especially to win it with special teams.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Yes, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
And it's fans got to get out of this idea.
What it looks like if you don't know what you're
looking at, honestly, like if you know what you're looking at.
I mean there's guys that have national will have weekly
or daily TV hits. They can't tell me what pressman
coverage is. They can't tell me what quarters is. They

(01:02:23):
can't tell me what what cover three years to cover four,
you know what I mean, or cover half. But yet
you know they had this platform. So I will say
for no huddle that Steelers may be legit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
The defense is, the defense is coming along.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
The defense is coming along, and I don't know, maybe
maybe Rogers has one last stant we'll see maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I mean, they're you know, they're going to be at
least five hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
So I think at this point, with the injuries that
the Ravens have, ye that I think it's going to
be the see lose.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
The physion to lose because you have the the Bengals
are not going to be in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
It, and they have it. I think they had. So
the Bengals are two and two, surprisingly thanks to Jacksonville
giving them Week two and then Ravens and and the
Ravens and the Browns have the same record through four games.
Who would have thought that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Who would have thought that the Browns are about to
switch quarterbacks? So, I mean, who knows what happened off
and go to the door like they're like, well, you
know they're gonna go Gabriel first.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
They said, yeah, they they're going Dylan Gabriel first. I'm
just like, all right, you want you want to excite
the fan base, dismins, let us go to Shador at
this point.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Yeah, well we'll see how Gabriel does. But yeah, they
with the ABC North looking as it is, the Steelers
might come away with it, but not not because they're Juggernaut,
but because like just the division everywhere, injury injuries, the
Ravens are on the decimated and the mars As already

(01:04:00):
ruled out for Week five. So that's that's really bad.
That it's I don't know how it might get really
bad for the Ravens this year. It might just be
like a not like a like a rebuild year, but
more of like a this just isn't our year the
year and you regroup for next year. This is just
like a regroup like which is just kind of insane.

(01:04:22):
Like because they were one of the odds on favorites
to win their Super Bowl, they were.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
They don't have a lot of depth. Yeah, they just
don't have the death behind their first dring guys, especially
on defense, especially in the front seven. Yeah, in the
front seven.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
It's so unfortunate to be and theres like that. But
my last one for for No Huddle, Uh, things changed
quickly for players. And we talked about Adi Mitchell how
like he's he's had a really bad, like horrific team. Uh,

(01:05:01):
the past two games for Marvin Harrison Junior, oh, game
and a half, I'll say past game and things were bad,
things were really really bad. No, I'd say I'd say two.
I'd take two to two and a half. Because like
weeks two and three where he wasn't doing much, and
then like the first half of week four, and then
remember they played on Thursday night Footballgain and he was struggling.

(01:05:23):
He was strong, he struggled. He dropped that one ball
which led to an interception, and things just it looked bad.
You had people online saying he's already a bus he's
he's everyone's like he's got no confidence, and rightfully so,
like he probably doesn't have any confidence at that point.
He didn't have any confidence in himself, Like he's just

(01:05:45):
you could kind of say his body language. Uh. But
then catching that touchdown pass and you saw he caught it,
the matter of way he caught it, his reaction of
just going down on one knee, and you can tell
how relieved he was. And he had another extail. Yeah,
so you know, I have him on my in my

(01:06:07):
one dynasty league, and I was flirting with the idea
of trading him in my one diacy league. And I'm like,
you know, I because I'm in win now mode in
that league, I'm one of the contenders, one of the
best teams. I'm like, I don't have the patience to
wait on him. I need like a contributing wide receiver
right now. But after that game, I'm like, you know what,

(01:06:28):
because you're not a fantasy football like the way I
see it is. I like having players I want to
root for too, like I don't want. I I think
that put help. I want to hang on to Mormon
Harrison Junior because now I want I'm invested. I want
to see him bounce back. I really want. Like people

(01:06:50):
remember Pete, one of our first episodes, we went in
this whole conversation about how people were labeling Caleb william
was a bust already, but then they weren't looking at
Marvin Harrison, who didn't put up the type of year

(01:07:11):
we expected, the impact that we expected for another wide
receiver who was labeled as generational right so he would
like having those expectations and struggling the way he did
at the gate. I want to see him really going
a tear from here right now? Now? Will it? Will
it happen this year? I have my reservations. I still

(01:07:31):
don't think Kyler is the right quarterback for him. So
I think as long as Kyler is there, I think
his ceiling is capped in terms of stats. Because I
just I don't think Kyler can see him when he's
running these these crossers in the middle of the field,
which is one of the best routes that that he runs.
So like, I don't think Kyler is the type is

(01:07:52):
the right quarterback for him, But I still think he
can have a great impact and show that he's one
of the better receivers in the league regardless, So I'm
rooting for him. I think that it's he's now all
you hope that he's got the monkey off his back
a little bit and he can breathe and just play ball.

(01:08:16):
And you know, I think Jackson Smith and Jigba before
that game, he was he was being interviewed and he said, like,
you know, he's he believes in Marvin Harrison or and
he just he thinks Marvin just has the yips and
every receiver goes through it. And he said that he
believes Marvin will be fine. So I still think that

(01:08:37):
regardless of what analysts say, because I know there are
a lot of analysts out there that already are willing
to say, yeah, Marvin probably shouldn't have been as hyped
as he was. He's probably overhighed. Blah blah blah, I'm
not willing to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Let go of that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
I still think Marvin has the potential to be the
best out of his draft class, and that's saying a
lot with it. With a draft class with neighbors and
Brian Thomas Sooner and McConkey. I still think he has
elite like top three receiver and leaked lead potential or higher.
So I'm rooting for him. I'm rooting for him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
We'll see you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Will see how it goes. Pete anything any other thoughts
before we close up?

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
No, sir, shut it down, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
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