A2DRadio presents: Film Don't Lie: Week 5 Eagles vs Giants TNF Preview and Seahawks vs Buccaneers Film Breakdown

First, we give you a full Philadelphia Eagles vs. New York Giants Thursday Night Football Preview. Will Jalen Hurts and the Eagles' offense bounce back and finally find some consistency, or will the Giants' defense pull off the divisional upset? We break down the key matchups and X's and O's that will decide who wins on TNF!
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= Show Segments / Video Chapters =
00:00 Introductions
02:58 How to fix the Eagles’ Offense
36:53 Film Room: Eagles Play Sequencing
40:34 Seahawks-Bucs Discussion
47:46 Film Room: Darnold to JSN
51:58 Film Room: Under Center Passing Game
55:24 Film Room: Kenneth Walker
58:25 No Huddle
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:32):
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It's a boy chucks back again with mister og Pete Evans.
My bro, how are you? How's your Internet holding up
so far? Because I know you've been having having internet issues?
And if you're if you're listening or watching, if his

(01:14):
internet goes out and it's suddenly a solo show for me,
you know why because he's been having internet issue all day.
So far, so good? But how you how you doing?
How are you feeling?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Brod?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I'm here present, like like roll call on class and
they say hey, like substitute teacher and who's here?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm here?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So yes, yes, we are a unit that's not making
it work right now? Is the Eagles offense? Uh? For
a second straight week? Bro? I guess you could say
third straight week they fail to put together four quarters
of consistent football. So what we're going to do, which

(01:54):
is a little change up from our usual approach, We're
going to give a review of the Eagles versus Giants
Thursday night football game. Because you know, with us specializing
in Eagles content not just NFL content, we figured, hey,
Eagles play Thursday night, great opportunity for us to get

(02:15):
ahead of the ahead of the sticks quote unquote and
give you our thoughts on the Eagles versus Giants and
the matchups and what we believe the Eagles need to
do to fix their issues on offense heading into that matchup.
And then once we finished that, we will dive into
our film review game, which is going to be the

(02:38):
Seahawks versus Buccaneers, which was probably the game of the
week and week five, so we have a lot to cover,
a lot to say about that game, so very eager
to dissect the film on that, and then obviously we'll
end up with no Hudd'll give you some quick ending topics,
but let's look it off. Let's get into it. So
Eagles versus Giants, Pete, We've we've talked a lot about already,

(03:02):
like between us and our chats, we've talked a lot about,
or we've discussed between us issues from the Eagles and
Broncos game and the Eagles falling to the Broncos. And
I'm sure if you're listening, you've heard a lot about,
you know, the reactions to that, the reviews and stuff

(03:25):
like that. So I don't want to dive too much
into Eagles Broncos. What I want to do is, let's
take the issues we saw from that, how would we
go about fixing that for the Thursday night game against

(03:45):
the Giants? Like, well, let's go back and forth with
acterning it. So you go, first name, name one way,
one solution you think the Eagles need to do to
fix everything, because there's a lot of stuff, so there's
not it's not just one thing. I'm sure there's not
just one thing. So you lead off, what's the first
thing you would do to fix the offensive issues for

(04:07):
the Eagles against the Giants?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Execution at the offensive line, run blocking, sometimes past blocking,
better ways to handle simulated pressures.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's a lot of different things that I just do
out there.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
But really, I mean, essentially, if you want to sum
all that up, fundamentals, fundamentals. Honestly, the fundamentals are how
you want to execute a play and making sure that
we are efficient when we do it. Because truth be told,
they have been playing better. The Giants have been playing better.

(04:46):
I mean theoretically they have really haven't. I mean, the
Chargers was a surprise win. But you know, as you
can kind of see what are the Chargers now? They're
Washington Commands as Hampton as well. So yeah, but for
the eagle side, I kind of I feel bad for
the Giants because you're getting a motivated, angry team and

(05:09):
the angry team.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's kind of frustrated themselves.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
So this is this is really this isn't a must win,
it's nowhere near that. But this is what team How
is this team going to respond? Because this is really
the first time they've had adversity in over a year.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
And to on that, yeah, that's the.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
First time they've had adversity, and over the year they've
had some issues, but they.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Still Yeah, he alluded to like, well, I think he
just talked about how that was the last loss. But yeah,
if you want to talk about true adversity, maybe it
is you no before that, because the Commander's loss in
December last year, wasn't really adversity like Kurts was. Hurts
left the game early, so like we never really I.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Would phrase it as, this is the first time in
over a year they have questions that they don't know
if they have the answers, you know what I mean.
Obviously that commander's lost hers was out, Okay, cool sitting
for two weeks, comes back in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Let's go. This is where like.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Hey, you said in the last three weeks, they haven't
put four together four quarters of I would say they
haven't put four quarters of a wall together in five games.
They have not played a complete game to where you
felt like it like you almost roll with the momentum,
like it was like we've had these moments like we're
holding on by to see where pants fans right, and
then it's like we're riding high.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's zero two, one hundred real quick.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
And I would say the Denver game because once again
I don't think enough the common Eagles fan.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I would say, the.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Common eyes don't really realize like how good Denver's defense
is and what questions that they pose and to have
that defense even with the inefficiencies and be up fourteen
up fourteen points in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Like that's you could take something away from that.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
And that's even in spite of the issues that they've happened. Right,
So where this Giants game is like, this is this
is what we used to call a get right game.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
This is exactly what it is. It is a get
right game. And it just really have to execute.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
And I'm not saying execute the kind of give Siriannia
pass where he wants to execute on the simple stuff.
It's the play the plays that they called the run
fist that they call protections and and I'll stop it
there because I can keep going around and I've been
I'll take it from you, so I don't want that
to happen.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's what It's interesting you said protections and stuff like that,
Like it starts with the offensive line. If I'm going
to add to that, I want to know what's going on.
I don't necessarily have the answer to this, but I
am confused right now about how the protections are being set.
I mean not necessarily how in terms of because we

(07:56):
know that as of last year, Jalen Hurts is the
one setting the protections long with Cam Jurggons so I
know that that's how, But what is going on in
terms of like who are they assigning these things to?
Like how what is their approach to setting these protections
against the sim pressures, because not only do I find

(08:16):
it questionable because they've had they're not there. They don't
have answers right now to these sim pressures. They're to
these teams crowding the line of scrimmage, not you not
knowing who they're gonna send, and then they send four
but you never, like you don't know if it's two

(08:36):
on each side, you don't know if it's like three
and one, you know, like you don't know who's coming.
Like they haven't been able to solve that. So what
is their approach to these these protections? And then I
need to know, like it's five weeks in a row
now where Seguon Barkley has had a mishappened pass protection
and I don't know what it is. And it seems
to be a similar issue every week where when you

(09:00):
have the offensive line sliding to the right, you have
a three man slide to the say to the one
side or the strong side, let's say, uh, and then
the running back Seguan they're supposed to have dual read
on the backside, but when the ball snapped, he's continually
looking front side. And Seguan has been too good at

(09:22):
pass pro throughout his career for me to think, okay,
like he's just not doing this, like this is just
a mistake out of Like there has to be something
that they are telling him to do, and I don't
know what it is, like and it goes outside the
norm of typical running back protection assignments. Uh So if

(09:46):
they are doing something outside the box in that regard,
so be it. But so far it isn't working. It's
not working at all. So I don't know if that's
the right approach. So that's what I mean, And I
don't have the answer to that. I'm not in the room.
But they need to get that fixed. They absolutely need
to get that fixed. So yeah, I just wanted to
add that to because you've talked about like, you know,

(10:07):
protections and an offensive line and blocking that that goes
into it. So for me, the first thing I would
I would do to kind of like fix all these
issues is let's let's spread it out, all right, Let's
spread let's spread this out. Okay, they did more of
that against the Broncos, which I was glad to see.
But we need consistently work because these condensed formations are
not working because when.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
You're condensed, what's the one thing they're not doing right
now so well, and that's not attention to detail.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
And when you're in a condensed formation, the.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Time and the sequency you have to execute and everybody
has to play the part, and for whatever it's worth,
they're just not doing that right now. So when you
spread it out that kind of you don't have to
be as perfect, you know what I mean, and things
to hit.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
So I agree with you there.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, because like in the Condemned and condensed one teams
that that specialized in condensed formations, like the Rams, they're
no known for it, right, Why does it work for them?
Because they marry their run game in the past game,
So they're running out of those formations and they're successful
either because they use it's not so much like now,

(11:15):
but before years ago, like in the todd early days, right,
they would run a lot of outside zones. Running outside
don't how condensed is ideal, But then like you have
concepts of the passing game that tie into that, so
it working. And then in the passing game, what they
would do is they would use those condensed formations to
hit a lot of like outbreaking routes because now the

(11:37):
the you have essentially all slot receivers, right, all your
receivers are in the slot. Now they have more room
to the outside to work. So like that's when you
have now this Eagles team, it's not working because that's
not how this these offensive skill players, like it's not
how they work, you know, and you need it. And

(11:58):
it's not the strength of Jalen Hurts either. He likes
he's he's awesome at spreading it out and when it's spreadformation,
you have that the spacing. So they need to like
spread it out more and like included in that, like
they need to go to I know the trend in
NFL right now is to go like with so much
twell personnel. That's like the the new in thing right now,

(12:19):
and it's working for a lot of teams, and I
agree with it, like it's it's it's an awesome thing.
But in order to do that, you need a second
tight end who can block And what have I been
pounding the table and like the point I've been saying
over and over is that you don't have backup tight
ends who can block. So Takata Grandson a lot too,

(12:40):
Like I don't stop putting them on the field, just
go eleven, spread it out and go eleven and and
have your run game and pass game lean more more
towards those formations and personnels. So I think that's that's
the first thing I would say. The second thing I

(13:02):
would say, and I think you agree with this, is
the sequencing needs to continue to build and improve, Like
we're gonna get into it because I have we have
like a few clips from it. But there was like
a hint of good sequencing from Petullo against the Broncos
that needs to continue to get better, like you need

(13:23):
to be able. It's still overall too erratic and random.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
It almost feels like Bullo is theyking one or two
steps ahead, but not three or four steps, Like he's
not he's not prepared in the response for the defense's
response to his response. You see what I'm saying, Yeah,
Like he catches them off guard a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
And we see verse two.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
First the first second third drives, but then once the
defensive coordinator on the other side makes an adjustment, it's
almost like he doesn't he didn't expect that, or he
doesn't know, like he kind of doesn't know where to
go from that. So it almost seems still prepared. Like
we talked about the wheel route to Saquan jailing jailing
check to that play. Yeah, could you have done see
like you talked about so much with the sequeens with

(14:06):
the rams, the Rams would hit that play from that formation,
run the same formation and have somebody else be the
primary target.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
We're not, We're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
And I'm and I will say, I'm getting tired of
the team saying that's just not who we and that's
kind of the sentiment.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Again, that's not who we are, that's not what we do.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Where the players obviously feel completely different because they feel
like these alpha males at the two wide receivers positions,
the quarterback and the running back, they feel like we
can run any offense, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
So why how are you like, why are you limiting
us in our in our success?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
So as you were, I'm sorry, Yeah, it's just like
we have like I want to offer like the silver
lining of like each week we have seen steady or
we have seen improvements from Patulo, but like we're getting
in the point of the season where like you know,

(15:04):
you gotta pick it up. So like I need to
see him like continue to build. That's the the the
sequencing aspect of his play calling. Uh, and so that
that needs to get better. So that's my second point.
So now I'll go back to you, like, what what's
your second solution that you would go for the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
QB qd rs man QB design runs. Oh yeah, yep,
some r P O S things that.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
And the crazy The crazy thing is you've played teams
the last three weeks to where you had to get creative.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I mean, it is the National Football League. It's cliche.
So we said it last week. It's hard to win
in this league. Hell, they didn't do it this past Sunday.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't know if on Thursday you need to empty
out the bag against this team to be done. Just
from my personal respective, that doesn't mean you shouldn't. But
we've heard this before. We've heard O c's and head
coaches say like, hey, like we don't want to show
them everything, you know what I mean. So and it's
kind of like they'll purposely withhold stuff. But at this

(16:11):
point with this team, there's too much lack of attention
to detail. And we've all seen if we If you're
an Eagles fan and you're you're watching this, you can
Every NFL team has a YouTube channel. But with with
one of the themes from last year's team with Sarrianni
was tough detail together, tough detail together. He would say

(16:32):
that constantly.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
That was the mantra. There's no detail now, it's not
enough of it, especially in the officer side of the boy.
I don't know I hear my echo.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Reason, I don't hear anything.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Okay, maybe it's just me and my term out Mike, So.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, I definitely hear you on the cub they should
have done that more against the Broncos, like we we
we we had a debate about, like we know about
how he didn't have enough runs against the Broncos, which
I don't looking at how that game went and the

(17:19):
defense that the Broncos were playing, I don't have a
huge issue with it. But what I do agree on
is that they should have thrown a counter, Like you know,
they should have done more QB design runs with Jalen
Hurts to help keep that that defense on its those
and they did it. So if you want more, if

(17:41):
you wanted to to burn more clock in that second
half and get the ground game going, but you're concerned
about the success the success of the run game with Saquan,
then put in your Jalen Hurts make them pay. And
they didn't do enough of that. So I agree with
with the know QB designed runs. I also went and

(18:03):
sticking with team with a run game and where they
didn't do enough of against the Broncos like they were
they looked like they were gonna have some success running
to the outside, like that first run of the I
think it was the first run in the game where
or like it was in the first quarter at least,
like that seventeen yard run by Saquan was a.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Pitch to the outside of the pitch.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
The pitch so like it was. It was like that
toss play, so like he's getting to the outside. I've
been saying it for weeks now, like with the interior
of the offensive line struggling the way it is, get
to the outside, more outside zone, more counter and more toss.
And there there were plays to be had, and that
one play the beginning of that same possession where AJ,

(18:52):
you know, were with that misshot to AJ that same
possession on first down, first and ten, they were going
to do a toss play to Saquan, but AJ got
fled for false start And if you see it and
I have it on my Twitter, I'm gonna go check
it out. Like I broke down every play from that possession.
They had numbers that could have been a big game,

(19:14):
but because of the false start none but like they
didn't go to it. Yeah, but they need to be
able to continue to do that Like this, This Giants
defense can be had on the edges. So again a
second opponent, second opponent in a row where you can

(19:34):
get to them on the outside, So get to the
outside in the run game, get to that side on
the gaps, and that's.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Just really not the defensive line you want to kind
of be coming into. When you ask some offensive line questions,
that's a concern. How would you feel about them actually
running out of under center from under center, because there's
somebody in these clips that we're talking that we're going
to talk about later in the show and what he
does out of from under center and what the offensive

(20:02):
line is because they can kind of just explode upward
instead of trying to push being level right, not saying
obviously not to opposite ends of the extreme ago super heavy,
but maybe something two or three under center runs two
or three under center formations.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
The issue I would love that. The issue with that
is it can only work if you are if you
have if you're showing some threat of a passing game
out of that formation. The issue with the Eagles is

(20:40):
when they're in well mainly it mainly it has been pistol,
but like, even if they're under center, it's a huge
tell to the defense that they're running the ball, so
that that won't matter right now unless if they start
passing out of that, and it can be they don't
have to be like the Seahawks, which will get into
the in the show. They'll have to be like the Seahawks.

(21:01):
They you know, the Eagles can run play action off
of it, but you've got to do something other than
run when you're either in or under center, So like
that won't work. Going on a center won't necessarily work
until you do that. But yeah, it's I think if
they just their concepts are fine, they can still have

(21:25):
success out a shotgun, but they have to get to
the outside.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
It almost feels like there's almost like an author who's started.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
A book and who feels like the book is almost finished,
and now you have to add a new chapter.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
You have to add a new character, right, So, and
that's and it's not you have to just rip all
the pages that the book can start over.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
But you need to do something, throw a little flare
on it, throw a little wrinkle into it. But when
in order to do so, you can't lose sight of
a fund mentals. And that's where I think the fundamentals
I almost kind of want to see this game even
if they don't change anything.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
We don't see anything new on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
But if the fundamentals and they're able to run the
ball effectively and they are able to execute that, then
you can start to build off of that, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
That, Yeah, if they clean it up and not having
self inflicted in the States did against the Broncos, they'll win. So,
like you know, all these things, like it all just
starts with just stop shooting yourself in the foot. If
you do that, you can probably scrape by against the giants.
But like you know, overall, you don't want them to
scrape you want them to be.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
You take away the Zach bomb play and just on defense,
just to hit on that.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
The one matchup that I see Hugh Q struggle with
is a wide receiver like Sign, a bigger body point
and catch halping the ball. Not saying qu'es not physical,
but that that is the one type of the wide
receiver that he struggles with the most. And that's just
from physics, right like him and the d DK isn't

(23:09):
as fit like something. Is probably one of the more
physical wide receivers in the league, especially at the catch point.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yes, yeah, there's not too many like him.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
DK is probably similar size, but doesn't play that, doesn't
play the same doesn't play the position the same way.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
But yeah, does that Brown play.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I mean, even if it was right from New Yorks,
It's like there's so many things to where we said
it one of the els in this game.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yes, it's a loss, and it's a loss in the column.
But the Eagles beat themselves. Yeah, yeah, like I don't.
I don't feel like demver beat them.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
The Eagles beat themselves, you know what I'm saying To
where with the Rams game, Yes, they came back twenty
six on the answered they made it play at the
end of the game field goal block. However, unlike it was,
the Eagles won that game, the Bucks game, the Eagles
won that game, right Chiefs game. The Eagles won that game,
and where this they just lost it. You know, there's

(24:01):
certain things you could do to help you win and
certain things you could do to lose.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, so many a finish.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well that that goes into another. Like a solution I
have is like these these these wide receivers and not
just a j but like he's probably like the biggest culprit,
but so many these wide receivers that we have they're
not running full speed on their routes. And when that,

(24:30):
when that happens, there are a couple of things that
are affected by it. One, your clearouts, your clear out
routes don't influence the defenders. Therefore, your your progressions to
like whoever you're targeting, that spacing is not going to
be there there. You're not going to have enough spacing

(24:51):
and leverage, proper leverage for those receivers to have that
you want to target and every inch counts, we know that,
So you need to have have whoever's running like a
clear out route needs to run that full speed even
if they're not getting the ball. They need to run
that full speed. And then the other thing is it's
affecting is the scramble drill. Like one of the things

(25:12):
that I really wanted to see himprove from Jalen Hurts's
standpoint and Eagles as a whole, is throwing outside the
pocket when he scrambles, Like whenever he gets outside the pocket,
it's only really a successful play if he runs. But
I need to see him make more plays passing the ball.
And what is that that's on him for He needs

(25:35):
to be able to keep his eyes up and downfield
and see the field as he's getting outside the pocket.
And also these receivers need to do a better job
in the scramboard at working back to him or running
their routes. Continue to run the routes full speed, because
if they're jogging then they stop. Of course they're not
going to be a target anymore. They need to continue running.

(25:58):
And that's the See that little detail is affecting those
two aspects of the passing game. So they need to
be able to do that. And then like the other
thing in the last thing probably I wanted to address
is is these route progressions. And I think it was

(26:19):
Kurt Warner over the over the off season where he
was doing an interview with Eagles Eric on his show
on Eagles Pinpoll Network. He was saying that these offenses
that run full field progressive progressions, they're just a lot
of them are just making it harder on the quarterback.
Like have it benefits the quarterback when you have route

(26:45):
progressions that work themselves into the line of sight of
the quarterback. So if their first progression, if they're looking
to the right, for example, and their first progression is covered,
it's not there. Have it so that the second receiver,
the second progression is doing, say, for example, like a
crossing route where they're working to that side of the

(27:06):
field so that the it's easier for the QB to
see them, and then the third progression is doing similar
to where they are in that line of sight. Instead
of having to go one progression one to one side,
progression two to the left side, and they're having to
work all the way back to the right side for

(27:26):
progression three. That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
You couple that with also the fact that the O
line isn't blocking as well. Yeah, and what does that
lead to that leads to inefficiency, it leads to jail
and leaving somewhat not dirty pockets, but not as clean pockets,
and then everything feels rushed. Yes, at least then on
this I mean like, because here's the thing, like Davante said,

(27:52):
he says, I've run the plate.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
I've I've run the plate that's called.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
But there's definitely some sentiment to where they feel as
if the play that's being called isn't the most.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Efficient play to make them successful. So how do you like?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
We heard about it Monday that sakwon Aj and Jalen
met had a length of discussion. I don't people will say, oh,
they needed this for the Kumbaya or that they need
they want to figure out how they can win?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
What do they need to do? How do how do
we like how Week five last.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Year was that catalyst kintaclysmic week to where they had
going around the ball, that's going to be our identity,
right yep, and then that would let us that set
the tempel for the rest of the year. Obviously, now
there's more player driven where I don't know, I would
love to have heard that KP was in that meeting.
You see what I'm saying or Nick was in that meeting,
so coaches in that mean like a player's only meeting,

(28:46):
Like okay, cool, but what do we do from there?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
How is that? How's it going to skin? Like?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
I feel as if the Eagles right now, with the
coaching staff that they have, could be successful during the
regular season. But if you a big like I don't
think KP is ready for a big game as far
as a game plan, and honestly so far removed from that,
I don't even think Nick is right now like in
game cool, but as far as game plan and stuff

(29:11):
like that.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I need the Dolphins. I'll come on, come on, Chris Career,
let's let's.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Already right, get them fire. If we get them into
our building, I would I would love that. I would
absolutely love that. But yeah, it's it's touched on it
today news asked by reporters and like he kind of
like downplayed it a little bit.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
And then and the.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Reporters also asked Jalen his press conference, and he they
were hush hushed. They were just like, that's between us.
But you know, whether it was kind of just like
an unplanned thing or whatnot. We'll see how it goes
and I think, like this whole you touched on it,
this whole thing of like a J and hurts don't

(29:53):
have a healthy relationship thing is so overblown that it's
nauseating at this point. It's I can't even describe like
how it's it's.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
A workplace, like how many how many people do you
work with on projects that you necessarily don't get along
with but you work well together?

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, like it's cool, Like it's And I said this
before on Twitter. I said it again a few weeks
ago because I had I had said it in the
off season, and I'll really say it again, Like no one,
no one knows what their personal relationship is aside from

(30:36):
those two and their families. That that is the only
those are only people that know exactly what their personal
relationship is. Like none of them. We could all speculate.
We can all say, oh, like you know, they're not
friends anymore, or we're can all say, oh, they're they're
just keeping a professional They're they're probably still good. Like
this is all speculation, none of us know, But there's

(31:01):
nothing I've seen that shows me they can't they still
can't work well together.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Deserves to benefit of down unlike a team that plays
across the street that I get me started.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I know, I know you, but yeah, it's so those
are solutions. I those all suits I have going forward,
you know, not even just against the Giants.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
We talked about off inside leading in at Thursday's game.
How do you feel now about our defense? Do you
feel as if Ringo played better this week?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, you know than I was the week before.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
If A Dory or Bennett was healthy. Do you think
Ringo has to by himself as right now as CB two.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I think he deserves another week. I think it's a
progressive thing. If he keeps building on these performances, it's his.
But would I say it's a lock. Has he done
enough to lock himself into that position? I don't think so.
I feel like I hope it doesn't happen. I'm not.
I'm not hoping for it, But like, if he has

(32:13):
a bad performance against the Giants, all this good will
the past two weeks goes out the window, like at
the square one. So I don't think he's locked it up,
but he deserves another week at it. So you know,
I have someone who has been pushing for Bennett because
I like that Bennett's coverage skills are sticky, and I
like athletic athletic ability more than Ringos, and I like

(32:36):
his tackle tackling ability more than Ringos. But Ringo has
been very sound in his assignments. I'm very smart and
hasn't given up anything huge, hasn't made any severe mistakes.
So that's all we need. So if he continues to
do that, I'm good with it. I'm good with it.
So yeah that I'm good with ring before. I'm not

(32:57):
concerned about this defense. I'm not concerned about this defense.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Look, they're gonna ease them in. I really think like
they're gonna ease them back into action. It's not gonna
be a thing. Like he's not gonna be one hundred
percent anytime too. I think he's gonna be eased back.
He's gonna work into some type of rotation in there,
and that's fine. But you know, I wouldn't expect like

(33:24):
a large role anytime soon. Yeah. The last thing I
want to say about the egos versus giants, Like, so
we we were talking about like our passing offense kind
of get fixed. So the one thing we've had issues
with so far is zone coverage? Right? We talked about
events is putting zone coverage on us? Because like we
had success against the Brokers in the first half because

(33:44):
they kept playing man, but once at Saque first unt hit,
they they went zone and that's when they really, you know,
shut us down. So what what do the the the
Giants play on the you know, on their friends on
the back end, what do they lean toward so using
using this new I said.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
It to you.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
This just was just announced today and this is like
my one of my favorite things ever now that I've seen.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Sumer Sports has come up with Sumer brand. It's in
the FATA pages and it's pretty much a search engine
for all football stats and data. So you put in
whatever you ask, whatever you want, and it comes up
with it. It's one of the most amazing things. I've
been wanting something like this forever and I could like

(34:35):
die of happiness that they have this. So I put
in there, you know how much zone coverage the New
York Giants play this season compared to man coverage and
how successful have they been at each Sumer Brain comes
up and says the Giants plays zone coverage on fifty
five point one percent of their passing place and man
coverage on forty four point nine percent. In terms of success,

(34:57):
the Giants have been significantly significantly more effective in man
coverage with the fifty seven percent success rate and negative
point zero two to three average EPA for the defense.
Their zone coverage has been less effective, with the forty
six point four percent success rate and a negative point
negative point two to two zero average EPA. So despite

(35:19):
using zone coverage more frequently, which is typical around the NFL,
So I would have put too much into that. The
Giants defense performance metrics suggests they play they have more
success against, They have more success when they play man coverage.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
This season, so.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
That if you go off of that, that plays into
our hands because they're if they're going to want to
play so much man and because that's where their bread
and butter is, I don't think they can stop us. However,
if they're going to see the film of previous weeks

(35:58):
and say, okay, we are going to alter course this
week and we're going to go zone heavy, then it
will be interesting because they haven't been as good in zone.
But if that's what's that you.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
See, they struggle zone versus men.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
So I don't know what the Giants are gonna do.
That will be very interesting. Are they gonna lean into
what they do best or are they going to say, hey,
we're going to play zone because that's what the Eagle
struggle with and then we'll see how they go. So
that's very interesting. That's that's something to watch out for
if the if the Giants continue to play more man

(36:35):
or they're gonna go heavy zone. So anything else that
you wanted to bring up before we get to I
did want to bring up the one Eagles clip?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Uh no, no, all right, So.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Before we try to talk to the Seahawks Bucks, let's
bring up this clip that we had put together. It's
the It has to do with sequencing, and as we
alluded to, there were flashes of better sequencing in this game.
So this is the seventeen yard run by Saquon in
their first quarter. There's a pitch city outside and you

(37:12):
see again outside run. They had success with it here,
So as it goes to the next play, you'll see
they build on this. So now they're going to they're
marrying their pass and run concepts together. They're going to
fake that toss to Saquon and now you're gonna see
Goddard or Calcultaru I'm sorry, run that shallow cross and

(37:35):
they're gonna pick up some yards on here. So this
is a good sign because this was the very next play.
This is a good sign from Kevin Patulo and the
Eagles on being able to build on these plays and
sequence them together. Issue the next play, which doesn't come
till the third quarter. So now that's the midway halfway

(37:56):
through the third quarter, and they're gonna try that concept again.
Fake the pitch to Saquan right, and they're gonna try
to get I think there's a j out running this
shallow but if you see Talau, who had a great game,

(38:16):
he is able. He gets on the back side and Niners, right,
he was from the Niners. Yeah he had injuries, so
like they let him walk, but yeah, he comes in
on the pressure on the back side. I'm pretty much
blows the play up because he's able to affect the Pats.
So it's it's a good thing that they're they're building

(38:39):
this together. There's still stuff to work on, but like
continue to do this type of stuff. So I thought
that was very interesting to see. But like I I
do they do need to account for backside blitzers, because
there were three players by Hufonga where he was blitzing
on the back side and he completely blew up the play.

(39:01):
It was a tackle for loss on Shipley in the
first half. It was that play and then the third
one was the one where he almost he defunded the ball,
he took it up in the air and he almost
picked it off. So like they have to be able
to account for backside blitchers and not let players like
Lufungo all wreck the play anymore. So wanted to highlight

(39:22):
that any input on that on those plays real quick.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
No, I mean, it's the secrets and you can clearly
see like they send more men than we can block
and we don't have an answer for it. And that's
so that's the second step. The first step is we
don't have an answer for his own coverages yet. And
I think DeVante and j both can they can live

(39:47):
in his own may have to get dots and more evolved.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I know we talked about it offline.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
C s Quan more evolved in the pass and aspect,
not just running wheel routes, maybe getting in some option routes.
I would love some screens against zone. Zone creates that
space and you can find voids within that space. So
how can you use the space against the defense that's
calling the zone and playing his zone covers. We haven't

(40:13):
put We haven't proven that yet. Hence to why guess what, Jaalen,
Guess what, KP guess what, Nick. You guys are not
going to get blitzed anymore like that because you've proven
that you can beat the blitz.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yes, So now here's okay, we solved that problem. Here's
another one.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
There's another one. Some pressures with zone covers on the
back end. Yep, we're gonna have to fix that now.
All right, So let's transition. Let's go over to our
film room and talk about, uh the the game of
the week from the NFL this week in Week five,
h Seahawks bucks. I. This wasn't showing on on here

(40:50):
in this area, so I pulled it up on streaming,
and I am sure glad I did, because this was
a doozy. This game was back and forth, especially say
the second half, like end of the first half, that's
when it really picked up, because that's like the Seahawks
got a drive together and scored their first touchdown, beautiful

(41:11):
drive by the way, and from then on it was
just Haymaker after Hayemaker after Haymaker. So it was it
was amazing. I mean we saw not only Donald and
Baker really try to add to each other, but we
saw wide receiver you Ohio State JSN and Buka Go

(41:37):
you know, trade trade blows with each other too. It's
it was phenomenal. It was phenomenal. And then like obviously
Kenneth Walker had a great game two despite women, it
touches uh and then with shot White on his end
had had a great game two. So it was just
like Harley in a defense, which like with this on

(41:57):
the Seahawks end, you can't be It's kind of expected
because they came into the game like Devin Witherspoon, de
Marcus Lawrence, and Julian Love didn't play, and then during
the game Derek Hall and Rieke Woollen got injured, so
like they were shorthanded on the on the defensive side,
so like it was kind of like expected for them

(42:18):
to kind of struggle.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
On that end. But but yeah, and it's hard to
win the Seattle It is hard to win. It's a
road team.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
It's it's hard to win in Seattle, especially coming from
a non divisional opponent coming from the opposite side of
the country.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Had a tough game and it's a physical team last
week in the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, man, that's I forget how because I feel like
the Bucks scored because I think as a plane here
the Hawks go up thirty four to twenty eight in
the fourth and then the Bucks scored ten unanswered.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
But I want to feel like it's almos almost like
less than.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Five minutes in the game and they're doing this without
their true on a one beater and Mike Evans.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, they the Seahawks. Their go ahead touchdown drive was
like it started it started at their own one yard line,
so that was a ninety nine yard drive. And uh,
it was such a good drive because like you had,
so it starts on their one yard life, so like
even before that, right, so they did the Bucks have it,

(43:28):
they have a chance to go up, but then I
think it was uh China Nuwosu gets the sack on
second down and then on third downs and in complete
passed by Baker and then the Bucks punt and the
ball gets on the one yard life of the Seahawks.
So like they've got a march down the field. But
I don't know if you remember, but it was the

(43:49):
it was the it was a past the Cooper cup
that got deflected and the cup caught it and then
got the first down of nine yards. And then the
very next play, Kenneth walk gets a twenty two yard
run and then I believe the next play after that
was the play action passed to jsne Yeah, for twenty

(44:10):
two yards. And then on top of that, the Bucks
get called for rough in the pass around Donald and
so that adds even fifteen. So like they were, they
marched down the field. They marched down the field on that.
And then what I thought was the best play of
the game was when Donald under pressure, you know, sheds

(44:33):
a couple of tackles and then finds Tory Horton for
that for that touchdown. That was like play at the
game and we'll show it here soon. But yeah, like
that was such an impressive drive to go up. And
then the Box come back and have an impressive drive themselves,
which opened with Buka's like big twenty five yard catch,

(44:55):
a couple of bigers.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
This is start.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
And they knows how to find them. Yeah, they've been
able to figure it out. Like, you know, we complain
about our the lack of a success we've had with
internal hires, but the Bucks keep hiring, you know, internally,
and they like each oc has been has been phenomenal

(45:24):
for them. So yeah, credit to them. But like it
just back and forth, and you know what I mean,
what I want to say is I know that I
know that interception at the end was bad. And I
think that you know, people were saying like, like they
don't put that on Donald because it deflected off of
the helmet of his alignement. But in my opinion, like

(45:47):
that's still on Donald, right, Like you have to in
that situation, knowing where you are, you have to be conservative,
like take the sack. It's a tie game. Take the sack.
Don't put it in a harm's way, you know, And
because he tried to throw it, and where he tried
to throw it, I don't know even if it was

(46:11):
going where he had intended, there was no open receiver,
so it would have been in the harmless way regardless.
So he's got to be he's got to be better
in that situation. But outside of that, you know, one
of the one of the stigmas against Darnable was that
like he's bad under pressure, but he hasn't been bad underpressure,
Like in this game he had he only had two

(46:34):
incompletions when under pressure.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I think ten.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
He was like ten of twelve under pressure and again
like one incompletion and one was that interception. But he
was making plays when he was under pressure, and he's
been really good at it. And I think that you know,
casual fans that they they're gonna continue to, like you no,
ignore how well he's been playing because of that interception.

(47:01):
And then he had that fumble against the Niners late
in the game, so they look at that and they'll
be like, oh, yeah, he's still he's still stamped Donald.
He's still stamped Donald. He's not good, but he's been
playing great ball as.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Of and I think more and it shows that they
were right.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I mean, they were right, and they're thinking to move
on from you know, get your resources and BT Sam Donald.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yep, Yeah, he's been He's he's one of the most
explosive passers explosive qbs in the league when it comes
to like explosive pass player. Uh, he's he's been accurate
and decisive. So like, hats off to him despite that interception,
like he's he's he's playing lights out. The one thing

(47:43):
I wanted to, uh, well, before we get to let
me get to a clip because like these two in
my opinion, we talked about Donald, talk about Jaysn. These
two passes were some of the great the best passes
of the day for Donald. The first one to jas
N here, this was toward the end of the first half.
And uh you, you're gonna see Jasn motion out. He

(48:06):
comes from the back field. It's gonna motion out now
out wide, and that's gonna that's gonna signify zone coverage.
But I want you to see the window here that
he fits this in and oh my god, like this
is such a tight window and I'm gonna it's gonna
slow down here when it gets to that. But this

(48:26):
is a bullet and the dime. Look at that that
is that is that that is such a great pass.
That is such a great pass. And this again, this
was like with nine seconds left in the first half.
So this gets them on the board. But again, like
Jason comes from the backfield, is gonna motion out to

(48:47):
signify zone And look at Jason's route two he's gonna
do a good job of opening up that corner which
gives enough space when he makes that move to the
inside and then touchdown. But this this throwing window, man, this.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Is it is the patients in the route design allowed
to open up and like you said, using the inside
leverage open up hips and with that tail to go
outside to get to get that dB to flip his
SIPs to give them the inside and uh, the perfect throw.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Perfect throw like this is this is accuracy, that's and
it's it's got juice on it too. That's that is
like that is a tight window throw and it's clutch
because it's it's end of the end of the half
and you need this. So it's phenomenal throw. One of
the better.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
That's not a pistol formation, is it, No, that would
just be regular shotgun, so shotgun.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
But to have JSN line up in the backfield they
do that?

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Was that?

Speaker 3 (49:51):
I said, I wonder how often they line JSM like
that in the backfield and putting what.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I would know. I think they've done it a couple
other times. I could be wrong. I think they've done
it in a couple other times and other game in
previous games, but I have to go back. Yeah, I
don't know for sure. I haven't been keeping an eye
out for that, but I think I do remember they
have done it a little bit previously. But this throw,
the second throw I want to show this is like,

(50:18):
this is anticipation. I was like, let me fast forward.
This one comes in the fourth quarter, Yeah, fourth quarter,
getting a fourth quarter to Jason's at the top. You
can see I highlighted him at the target. And Pete
we talked about anticipation. This is like, look when Donald
throws right, hold on, I'm going to back it up

(50:39):
just a little bit so you can see like as
like he when he releases this right, so he's he's
he's running up now. Jayson is still on his rout set.
He hasn't even hit the top of his route. He's
still running his route step when Donald decides to pull

(51:01):
the trigger on this, that is anticipation. And look where
it gets like that is that's anticipation. That's pinpoint accuracy.
That and this was on third and five for the Seahawks.
That like that isn't that is an amazing, amazing throw
by Donald on another Colt shoal down. Awesome stuff, Awesome

(51:29):
awesome stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Donald's Darn's dealing, Darning's dealing.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Donald's dealing is hot. Sharps is hot in my Dynasty League.
I know you hate it because.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah, he vultures Knine all the time, like can I
gets all the yards of it when they get in
their goal lines. Sharbs is just like plowing it in.
It frustrates me. But I mean, Can's Canine's doing this thing,
and you know we've the one of the donald things
or like schmatically with with the with the Seahawks. Brett

(52:03):
Coleman brought this up last week, so I wanted to
check it out this week, and so that's why I
pulled these clips coming up. But an interesting thing that
the Seahawks offense does is when most teams, when they
are in this today's NFL, when they're under center, they
either are running the ball or they're they're doing some

(52:25):
type of play action right, like especially if it's like
a play action like deep shot or you know, a pass,
a pass to the flat right. But what the Seahawks
have been doing is they're actually running like true drop
back pass game from under center, which you really don't
see in today's NFL. You don't. You don't see it,
like there's no play action. They're running three step drop,

(52:49):
five step drop passing concepts where they're running quick game,
or they're they're doing concepts to the intermediate.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Level of the field.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
And what that does is it makes their under centered
game that much more unpredictable. So defenses don't quite know
like are they running it, are they calling a deep
shot or are they gonna go quick game or are
they gonna go like it's it's just an interesting little
nugget and detail that Klint Kubiak is running that is

(53:23):
that is awesome. It's phenomenal. And so I'll run these
clips as you can see. Like, so there were ten
under under center plays by Donald against the Buccaneers, and
four of them were non play action and three of
them were successful. So the first one here, this is
going to be I think this goes for eleven yards

(53:47):
of JSN.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Next one here, I think this is the Yeah, look
at that.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Out out this next way to Kenneth Walker dis goes
for there. But like this is this is what I
mean by intermediate. So let me back it up. So
the while the other ones were quick game, right, this
one under center now shows now they're working their their
their their intermediate level passing concepts. Now it doesn't work.
He doesn't find anyone open and checks it. He checks

(54:17):
it down to Kenneth Walker. Here it goes for no gain,
but it just shows what they're doing. And then this
last one, this was the Horton touchdown to end the game.
Another just phenomenal plays like this is great play by
Sam Darnold. Do you see the fans going crazy? But
again this is these these are actual non play action

(54:41):
passing concepts that they're running from under center, and it's
keeping defenses on their toes and it's it's it's it's
kind of refreshing, right because it's like a homage to
like old school, not even old like with with two
thousands qualify as old school, like the.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Years old. Oh my god, it's a quarter of a
century ago.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
My god, it's so bad. But like we have under
center under center, uh, drop back passing the game. The
Seahawks are doing it. And if you were a fan
of that, and I know, like guys like Kurt Warner
are huge fans of that, you're gonna love what the
Seahawks have been doing. So kudos to them. Yeah, the
last point you you pointed out Kenneth Walker he needs

(55:28):
were touches man, Like he is clearly he is clearly
the best, the better back there. And he only has
ten carries and they went for eighty six yards, like
four of them went four of the plays. So like
this is the first one. Like there's a theme here.

(55:49):
They're like these big plays are to the right side,
so they clearly saw something and and you know gives
the Bucks defense where they can attack that right side
because all the big games came in that direction, so
you know, Canada Walker here, I think this is fourteen yards.
This next one is going to be another outside zone
and this goes for I believe thirty one. This is

(56:12):
the thirty one yard pick up in the third quarter. Yeah,
like he's also racist, Like this is he's providing explosive plays.
These are these are I think three of his carries
went for explosive plays and he only had ten carries.
This next one was a shovel pass. It was called
back due to penalty, so it didn't count. But again

(56:33):
another example the right side and Kenneth Walker's going to
catch a shovele pass. They're gonna make it, make a
defender miss and he picks up twelve. That was the
first down, but again call back due to penalty. But
it's just another example explosive place from Kenneth Walker. And
then this is the one in the fourth fourth quarter
on that that go ahead drive inside zone and he

(56:54):
goes for twelve or twenty two I'm sorry, twenty two yards.
So he needs more touches, Like I don't know if
I don't know, if they are preserving him for later
in the year. That's why they're kind of going fifty
to fifty. But man like, he's clear clearly the better
back from me.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
I would say, like if you're just looking at running
backs as far this far through five games by John,
I'll probably say Jonathan Taylor one B John two.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I flipped them. But I hear you you have an argument.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
I'm not talking about as far as is talking about
his talent, Like not so much talent, but production would
be seen from yards like Taylor if you don't if
you take it, if you don't have those the hold
on a d last week and that touchdown simular running Tennessee.
He had what I think he had eighty and three
touchdowns this past this past Sunday.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
He's going off. It's amazing, insane. Yeah, I hear you,
but yeah, yeah, and JT are like to me right
now tier one one one?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah, and I would, I mean right now, even Knin
is performing better than say Quon, but that's more than
it goes more into the block and then the run
schemes of the run fit and hell, listen, if there's
anything that a last person's name and as an office,
according to the NFL, can do is run the ball.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And that's when your last name is Koobia. You better not.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah, yep, Kreeback's going to be able to run the
run the ball.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
All right, Litten, Let's get into No Huddle a little
bit and and let's finish this off. You want to,
you want to start off? You have anything?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
The only thing I have for No Huddle tonight is
do that was one of mine?

Speaker 1 (58:39):
What a game?

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Listen, Travis Hunters is a joystick. He was making Oh
my god, so many people miss. I don't know, man,
legit four and one. I believe they have leg They
have another tough game this week. Who do they play?

Speaker 1 (59:02):
That's a good question. I forget.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
I was just looking did they play the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
No, I'm about the check.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
It's not easy. Do you figure forty nine ers in
San fran beat them?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
He plays Seattle.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
That's I knew it.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
And I was like, I know they play somebody that's
not a slouch, but they playing. I think they playing
in Seattle, don't they they play?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
No, it's in Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
It's in Jacksonville with time one o'clock.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
That is one o'clock game.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
I'm taking it over and jack Yeah. Yeah, I think
he's had like four picks when the year already? Who
Devin Lloyd.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Four picks?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah? Yeah, linebacker utah, yeah, break out, you break out
your friend quiet as cap man. This is.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
It's gonna be tough for this This Coach of the
year battle through for the first five weeks is uh,
it's something else. It's definitely something else, legit. I think
I think the AFC South, we were looking at it.
It's still not the strongest division, but it's it's the
coats to saying and now don't watch out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
The text is the one too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yeah yeah, Textans aren't going away. I'm just trying to
figure something out. So the AFC South is looking strong. Yeah,
with the Jags such an impressive win. I couldn't. I
couldn't believe that game winning touchdown by Lawrence. Like I
was when he fell down at first, I'm like, bro
stay down, just just say stay down. You go to

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the next play, and he's like getting up, and I'm like,
the moment he gets up, I'm like, because I'm looking
at the defenders, right, I'm looking at the pressure and
all the defensive linemen. I'm looking out in space. I'm like,
he hasn't he hasn't leaned. He couldn't score. He had
to get past the one defensive lineman. But the moment

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he and then once he broke that tackle, I'm like,
he's in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I think there's some there were some stories I heard
of coming out, like Chris Jones's lack of effort on
the play.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, I think, But I mean no, like, you got
three out of four, You've been three out of four
Super Bowls? I mean, actually, what five out of the four?
Out of five? He lost two and then they've been
to the last five in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I don't remember. I don't remember. I was on my head,
but they've been to most of them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yes, Stanfran, they won. They beat us too, yes, they
lost us. They won Who was who went in twenty
three Rams? Well, no it wasn't san Fran again again
and then they.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Went for the three peat against.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
The beat us beat the Niners and then lost us.
But then they lost to the Bucks and then they
was there a gap between when they because remember when
the Rams won it? Yeah, okay, yeah, you're getting twenty
moments the gap. So they've been to the last four.
They've been to the last four, so that means last

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four in a row. So they've been the five, they've
been to five by the six. So that's a lot
of that's a lot of high quality cootball, man, And
and I think it's almost like the like it's just
not just because you are who you are, it's not
going to be given to you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, right, you know what I mean. If anything, teams
are going to bring it more. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Absolutely absolutely, they're always going to bring bring their best
against you. So you know you're always going to be
looked at like the measuring stick.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
So yeah, uh, phenomenal with from then going from one
that upset to the other upset. The night before you're
talking about Patriots Bills, break is coming out party, I
mean mine, God not, I should reword that. Not his
coming out party because he's been playing well, but his

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hurt national exposure, you know, to everyone, because if you don't,
if you're not, you know, watching the Patriots, then you
don't know for real. But like what a game for
like his debut on national television, it's he is the
real deal. Amazing, amazing performance by him, amazing performance in
his return to Buffalo by Stefan Diggs, like man, like

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two weeks out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Yeah, and you could tell that one long reception he
had he wanted so bad to get into the end
zone like he was. He got tackled just short and
he was pissed. He was so mad. But yeah, like
this that that Patriots team, they're not going away. They
they are, they are fighting and they're they're they are

(01:03:59):
playing well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
They are.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
And then there was one play it's like fifteen or
I think it was the play that Digs bobbled it
caught it and that ran he ran for like ten
he ran over to the bill side, like he ended
up in the bill side, like he literally was giving
him the finger on the back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
To the huddle. So somebody says something to him that
was in playing clothes. He was giving him the finger. Man.
I just I mean it's hard to say, like when
we sit here and we say AJ's not a DV.
He's not this, he's not that. Like if you look
at what Stephan had with Josh Allen, like and that
wasn't good enough, you know what I mean. So you

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never know what these these things are going to play out.
But uh, it was definitely, uh a week of the
rise of the upper comers.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah, it was the rise of upper coomers.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
From the Pats beating the Bills obviously, the Broncos beating
the Eagles, Jags beating Kansas City QB controversy, and San Fran.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
You can't tie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
The people in Santa Fran won't tell you that, but
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
It definitely should be Marc Jones. Yeah, man, I mean
this is we we five. Things always get spooky around
week five. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Yeah, you're I wasn't planning to mention this, but you're
you're talking about like that performance by Mac Jones in
that game. What I will say is, like, I Kyen
Williams is a good running back.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Mm hmmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
He absolutely has a fumbling issue. This isn't even like
a phase. This is who he has been since college,
always had fumbling issue, right, And this is I think
this is an issue with Sean McVay for some reason,
he loves Kyrien Williams so much that he is going

(01:06:01):
to continue to make Kyrien Williams the belcow there right again,
Kys is a good back. I'm not saying he should
be benched, but I find it very very interesting, And
I think we had mentioned this on last week show,
how Blake Korum getting more touches now has started to
look kind of pretty good, Like he's a good change
up from Kyen. He has a little bit more juice

(01:06:24):
than Kyen, and he has exceptional vision as well, amazing
vision of work. So he's been playing well on the
limited touches that he's been getting. Right, he fumbles that
one pitch and he gets essentially benched, right, and I
just find it very ironic how McVeigh benches Quorum because

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of that. And then Kiren pretty much has the blunder
of the game as he fumbles right at the goal line,
which prevents the Rams from from going ahead. But he's
not gonna obviously he's not. He's not gonna bench Kiren
and then in overtime on fourth and short, instead of

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putting the ball in the hands of Matthew Stafford, who
has Pukakua and DeVante Adams to throw to, he chooses
to run it with Kiren, and Kiren gets stuffed and
at the end of the game it's just he loves Kiren.
But it's to a fault. I think it's showing in

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a sense. Yeah, yeah, it needs to be. It's not
going to be. Don't expect it to be. But in
my opinion, it should be more of a fifty to fifty.
It should be more of like a one a one
time the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Like what the Detroit Lions do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Yes, and both can be successful. Like Kyen is a
good back. I don't know how many times they said
Kyen is a very good back. He needs to have
a role he like and he can make an impact.
But let's not ignore the elephant in the room that
his fumbling is yourself cost them at times. I mean
it cost them against the game against US last year,

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he fumbled at the beginning drive and it gave us momentum.
So yeah, it's that's that's a blind spot for for
Sean McVay, right, now.

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