A2DRadio Presents: Flyers Talk Podcast- Shutout in Tampa Bay/Slow Starts for the Flyers

There is a saying in sports, "It's not how you start, it’s how you finish”. That being said, the Flyers seem to find themselves playing from behind a lot and that’s leading them to have to climb back into games. The good news is the team has shown so much resilience early on and is able to climb back into those games. The guys will discuss the importance of getting off to faster starts in the games ahead. Also they will discuss the results of Monday Night's game against the Tampa Bay Lightning. Don’t miss the conversation. Be sure to drop your comments in the chat and be a part of the show and make sure you hit that like and subscribe wherever you watch or listen to Flyers Talk A2D!
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, what's good. It's Tuesday night. You know what that means.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It is Flyers talk a t D with your boys.
You got Dale's, we got Pove, No MATSI Suita tonight.
But we're also gonna talk a lot about the Flyer
slow starts recently. We're also gonna talk about that game
last night. So there's a lot on the table for tonight.

(00:25):
So make sure you hit that like hit that subscribe,
jump in the comments. The conversation is about to get underway.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Let's go talk some puk.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
What's up everybody? It is Tuesday night.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Like I said, your boys, Dale's, you got Pove, you
got flyersk a two D coming at you.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Live on a Tuesday night.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Pull.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
How we feeling the night? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Well, I got a hemorrhoid the size of a golf ball.
But other than that, I'm perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Wow, was not what I was expecting. So much pain.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
That's if I see a little If I'm sitting a
little taller on your screen, it's because I got a
little patting underneath. The true story.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Wow, you are a trooper for doing the show tonight. Brother.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Let me tell you all right?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Uh, Like I said, no massive sutia tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
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Speaker 1 (02:18):
What a game last night, just to kind of lead.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Into everything here, lost three nothing to the Tampa Bay Lightning.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
And we'll get a little bit more in depth into
this this later.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
But one of the things that we've been praising this
team with Robbie early on here is resiliency.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Team.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Teams tend to fall behind a little bit quicker, uh
these days, but they do tend to find a way
to climb back into games, which is always a great thing.
And moving into the second half of the season, they're
gonna have to figure out ways to start getting a
lead and start playing with the lead. So this leads
into our face off question, our face off poll. The
Flyers resiliency will eventually come up and start leading to

(03:01):
losing games. Obviously we did agree or disagree for me,
and then I'll swing it over to you. I think
it's it's a very quick and easy agree. You know,
eventually at some point you're gonna run out of gas,
You're gonna need a break.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know, you put.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
More effort into games when you're coming from behind instead
of playing with the lead. You could play a completely
different form of hockey when playing with the lead. So
for me, it's a quick and easy agree. And Robbie,
you know, obviously let us know what you think. You
agree to disagree with.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Us, Well, I will say this in terms of the
game last night true story, another true story. I did
fall asleep a couple of times because there was some
snoozing effects, especially when there was like eight to ten
minutes of no whistle hockey. But it wasn't the exciting
bar burning hockey. But I mean, if you were Tampa
Bay Lightning fan, maybe there was. But in regard to

(03:55):
the Flyer's recent stretch. Yeah, they've shown great resiliency, and
while I think the makeup of this team and the
way that Trevor Zegris has been exceeding all expectations would
point towards it continuing based on what they're building in
the locker room, if the Fords don't start getting back

(04:16):
and helping the defense more, the resiliency is only gonna
last so long because despite that excellent makeup of this group, Brian,
the energy gauge is eventually going to come up empty.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Now.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Luckily, the Olympic break this season will favor teams like
the Flyers, young teams that are going to run out
of gas. But that's a long ways away talking February
sixth to the twenty fifth. But however, like Tox said
last night after the game, the boys will learn and
improve from games like this and like I said, excellent makeup.
If we see more inspired play as we saw against

(04:50):
the Devils on Bernie's Night, the Flyers won't have to
rest purely on their resiliency, and they're going to put
this league on notice that not only can they contend
for a playoffs, but they could be a legit threat.
So I know that's a weird way to agree to
the poll. But you gotta get off the fast starts.
Brian else that that you're just gonna see, you're gonna run,

(05:12):
You're gonna run out of gaps.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, absolutely, I under agree with you. So it's not like.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Because you bring up a great point. You know, this
the way that Tacket wants this team to play. I mean, defensively,
they've been fine. I have no issues with this team. Defensively.
I think they've been really good. I think the dar
has been really good. It's it's.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
And I I'm.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Gonna exclude last night in this comment. You know, the
offense needs to find ways to get the puck in
the net a little more consistently.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Now that being.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Said, I heard a little stat last night saying that
I think the Flyers were like the third most balanced
team as far as scoring goals goes, Like they have
more spread out goals throughout the entire team. I think
there's like I think JJ said, there's like five or
six players with five goals or more. Right, So that's awesome,

(06:11):
Like they're getting the balance there. So that's that's great.
But you know the thing for me is is getting
the quick early goal you brought up. You brought up
the game against the Devils, which I think is a
really good example. Fall behind one nothing then that that
to me is not that big of a deal. It's
not that big call of a climb out of but
the way they climbed out of it and just attacked

(06:33):
the Devil's the rest of the game. We need to
see more of that from this offense. You know, it's
they put them basically put them in a toe hold
and and just didn't give up. If they can get
the lead, I'm I'm sure enough in this defense right
now that that they're going to figure out ways to
win more games this way.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
But you know, you can only do.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
So much from these slow starts where you can keep
climbing out of these holes, and I think last night
was a good example of that, because you're gonna be
facing hot goaltenders, you're going to be facing some of
the best goaltenders in the world. You face the best
one in the world yesterday. And I'll get a little
bit more into this later on in the show, but

(07:13):
you know, I got like Vasilevsky, if you let him
find his groove, he's not gonna let win it, right,
So you got to be able to jump on some
of these teams early and create a lead to build
off of, or at least create some momentum to build
off of. Otherwise you're just gonna flounder and then you're

(07:34):
going to find ways to lose games instead of what
they've been doing. You know, they've been finding different ways
to win games week after week, game after game. You know,
it's now they're starting. I think they have to start
finding ways to get that first or second goal right
and just kind of doing what they did to the Devils, right.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
You're you could do somewhat of what you did against
the Devils, but you're not going to get three goals
in twenty six seconds all the time. There's a reason
why that's a franchise record for the Philadelphia Flyers. And
it was just I watched that game, and I mean
that might have caused to hemrhoid, you know what I mean,
because like, shit, that shit happening, right. But but yeah,
I mean, you keep on falling behind. It's just a

(08:18):
tough task. It's a tough task, so you get off.
It's great to have wins like that because it builds
character and it builds resiliency. And it builds that that
culture where you're leaning on the guy next to you
on the bench when when you hit the ice, you're
ready to go. And I mean we're seeing these lines
as as much as they've been juggled a little bit.
We've seen Mitch Coffin brink up with Coots on the

(08:38):
top line. We've seen connect Me with Noah Kate and Forrester.
You know, the fourth line's been solid. I mean, Ables
and Delorier, you know, get I think that was probably
the most exciting thing about the for the fire side.
One of the things we'll get into more of it later,
but the fight that he had last night. But ultimately, Brian,
what I'm loving from this team is is that there's

(09:02):
they're bringing strong for checking, right, they got to finish plays.
But five on five they've been defensively great to your
earlier point and butt on the PK they've been even better.
They were twentieth last year, their third in the league,
and it's not it's early, but it's not that early.
At this point. They've been showing really good discipline. You're
talking about a game like last night against the Tampa

(09:24):
Bay Lightning, where shots were twenty to eighteen in favor
of the Flyers. So you know, even against a fast
team like Tampa, you see them. You know, maybe they've
been criticized for the defense backing in a little bit,
but Taku address that right after and we'll get into
that later. That it's more of the forwards not getting back.
Maybe they're getting a little too aggressive on that for check. Yeah,

(09:47):
I'm looking at you, mister Mitchkoff. So you know, you
gotta do you know, it's all learning curves at this point.
But there's a lot of good things that we're seeing
right now. They're gonna learn from their mistakes, they're gonna
build upon what they're doing well, and I will eventually
lead to getting off the faster starts.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Brian No, I agree, and and uh, I was I
don't typically do this. I listened to some of the
post game last night, and uh, listening to Jamie talk
about just kind of how they the lack of response
from from the team as far as offense goes, he.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Was very he how did he phrase it?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
He phrased it pretty confidently that they were going to
climb back out of this and and respond in the
next game, which was nice. But I also listened to
something Sean couturier I said which which kind of hit
a little bit at home.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Uh, he took a.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Lot of accountability for what happened on the I think
he said it was the first goal, first or second goal,
basically saying that, you know, we can't allow that to
happen again, you know, basically captain talk. But just hearing
it come out of like certain guy's mouse, it's reassuring
to me that this team is starting to kind of

(11:07):
click with tacket system. So the interesting thing that I
also took away was AshEL and Sullivan saying that this
team is kind of still learning the system in their
practices instead of preparing for the game, which kind of
has me a little concerned that maybe the system isn't

(11:29):
hitting like we thought it was, and some of these
really good games that they had were.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Just kind of lock.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I don't want to say luck, but maybe maybe that's
the term to use. But it's a little alarming where
what it's about twenty five twenty twenty five games into
the season. Wouldn't you think this team would have a
little bit of a better grasp of the offensive system
by now instead of continuing to continuing to learn this system,
this this far into the season.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Robbie, Yeah, I mean I would agree with that, but
I disagree with at Ashton Sullivan's take there. I mean,
if they're still learning this system or they're pulling it off,
pretty darn well. What did I just say about the
about the penalty kill. I mean, that's a drastic improvement.
Now you can say maybe that poach that points a
finger more towards Yogi, you know what I mean. Special teams, right,

(12:16):
But it's all under the umbrella of talcket right, and
we're seeing guys flourish. We are seeing I alluded to
it before, Brian in terms of Trevor Zegris exceeding expectations
here in Philadelphia. I can't take my eyes off this guy.
And I swear you know it's it's it's it's it's

(12:37):
not just the shot and his shooting ability, but it's
the playmaking ability. It's the vision finding guys. We saw
it really early on when he made that awesome pass
totory earlier on from behind the net with two guys
to Florida Panthers, I believe, crashing up on him. And
he's just continued to do that and even last night
against Tampa Bay Lightning and you're talking about a team

(12:57):
that was playing phenomenally well, Oh, Zegras, we talk about
where we've seen and maybe the fan base you want
to chime in and you want to comment on this,
right where we've watched playoff hockey and be like, no
way could the Flyers product measure up or compete with
this level? Right, But we're seeing individual guys start to

(13:19):
flourish under tocket system and I'm seeing that develop. And
there was times during that Devil's Get a strong New
Jersey Devils team that not only did they make Jake
Allen look silly, they made that whole bench looks silly.
Is skating around? I mean you know, like just that offensive,

(13:39):
just like that hunger, that fire, that speed. Now, like
I said, they played a very fast Tampa Bay Lightning team, Right,
that's gonna you're gonna learn from that, and and we'll
talk about that later more in the show, but but
ultimately for now alluding to you know the slow starts fan, right,

(14:02):
you know, I think they're always going to be competitive
in these games even when they get off to the
slow starts. And that's what they've proven there to that resiliency.
But you got to fill up that tank. And a
good way of filling up that tank is not taking
dumb penalties, putting yourself behind the eight ball where you're
killing not only solid time on five on five, but

(14:24):
your own power play opportunities, negating them. When you make
smart decisions like that, then you can get more of
your skilled players on the ice. Mitchkoff will be on
the ice, more Zegres will be on the ice. More
what's ub Rasca, you know, so you know, the more
discipline they play, and again maybe maybe tying it back

(14:45):
to your original point. When you're making mistakes, often what
happens you're behind the play. You get that looking like
Cam York got in the Lightning game right, And maybe
in those aspects they're struggling to learn the system right.
But this is year one, right. What I'm seeing and
what I'm liking is that they've lost nothing from the

(15:07):
three years under Towrts. We've seen that with the accountability, right,
but just taking it up to the next level.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean for sure. I mean there's
a lot there, There's a lot.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
There, a lot there and unpacking go ahead, I go
on rambles, you know, that's what I do.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
No, it's all good, It's all good.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
So I'm you know what I mean, absolutely absolutely For
ten years we've been by the fan for the fan.
We're going to be by the fan for the fan
for another ten Yes, So just jumping all the way back.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
To where to the initial intional question.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Uh, it does concern me a little bit that that
if what Achlan said is true, that they're still in
practice working on systematic stuff instead of game planning. Uh,
that does have a little bit of concern for me, obviously,
because obviously at this point we want guys to be
game planning and creating ways to win, which maybe is

(16:15):
why they're still juggling the lines as much as they
are not being able to find obviously outside of the
brink Kateria not Brinking Katier.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Though. Yeah yeah, but yeah, yeah, I get your point.
The Brink Kates and Forester line normally.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Like we we know that that's that's probably the best
line on this on this team, you know, and obviously
a bunch of new players as well, And and I
was having a conversation at work, Juleson is slowly growing
on me as as a team guy. Yet I love
seeing him kind of jump into a lot of the

(16:52):
jump into a lot of the scrumps to defend his
teammates out. So I love that he's a team guy.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
But for me, it's it's it's they gotta figure it's
figuring out ways to get get those fast starts and
and I know it's gonna take time, and I'm not
expecting them to to do that immediately. And and kind
of building off of what Brian Bouchet said the other night,
I believe it was actually during the Devil's game. He said,
it's it's not about how you start, it's about how

(17:19):
you finish. And there's a lot of truth to that.
But you know, for for a team that's that's trying
to make the playoffs this year, a team that's that's
trying to break out of a rebuild, you gotta figure
out ways to get two wins a little bit, uh,
in an easier way for yourself, And.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's a lot less stressful for the fan base too.
So yeah, that's always important.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
But a couple of comments here real quick, I saw
prison here, hopefully he's still awake. Then we got rosterally
chime and saying that the Blues terminated. Lou teaches try
out contract, which is true because yeah, he just doesn't
have it anymore.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah, agreed, and then he can trying to hold on there.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, and then he goes to say that you cheat
to the Ducks. Now, Ducks don't need to add anybody
right now. They're good.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
The way they are winning hockey games is the way
that they're doing. Anthony just chimed in, Anthony, Demio, what's
up band? Happy Thanksgiving to you brother as well says hey, guys,
this team is too many wingers and the big trade
is needed to get a number one center or d man.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Until that is done, we are stuck in neutral. Want
them to win, but I'm.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Honest, I think there's a lot of truth in that.
I still don't think they have the number one center.
They have plenty of talent at the wing to be
able to move. You're also gonna eventually have to some
point consider the Trevor's egress extension potentially into this as well.

(18:58):
So flyers see him as a winger, and I know
he sees himself as a center. But something to think about,
what do you think about this?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Rob? You think? Do you think a big trade is
needed to get a number one center.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Well, first of all, at the happy Thanksgiving to you too.
And they do have more talent on the wing than
they do at center, there's no doubt about it. But
I mean, you got Zegra's playing that hybrid right where
he's playing center a bit of playing wing a bit
or what have you. Christian Devoyac has played very well.
I think he's he's earned the money for this one
year contract and and and he's building up that potential

(19:33):
trade value where you could you know, package him and
others for uh, you know, for a step up on
in center ice. But I I really feel this is
gonna come from from the guys we drafted, right we
you know, we saw Jetlichenko up on this on this team.
He's now been traded.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I believe in the OHL to London or uh Bridgeport Bridgeport. Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's one of the best things you OHL. I know
that I can't think.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Of Branford yep, yep, yep. So he's gonna be getting
much better experience playing with that higher level of competition
right to the point where you know he's gonna be
in tow for next season. Hopefully you do get Zegras
sighned to what have you? As well as uh down
the road Jack Nesbit, you know what I mean, as
well as as he performs well, uh, you know at

(20:26):
the junior level. So I think ultimately I have the
confidence that it's in the pipeline in terms of that
number one center. But you know that also can I
don't think that's gonna come from a trade. I think
you're gonna you're gonna build upon what you're building here,
brick by brick. But ultimately you're gonna develop your center,

(20:47):
your number one center, Iceman, I don't think you're gonna
trade for him.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, and to kind of build off of what you
were saying here, Rob, what's up?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Greg and and always appreciates you chiming and brother happy
thanks getting to you and.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Your family as well. If you look some of these
other teams, if.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
They're gonna get if they're gonna get a number one center,
it's gonna be one of two ways.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's gonna be your spot on. They're gonna have to
develop it or they are gonna have to trade for it.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
But the problem is there's not a lot of teams
out there right now in the market that are gonna
be willing to trade a number one center, especially especially.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
These playoff teams. He's rebuilding teams.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
They're trying to find these guys to build around. So
that being said, it's gonna be really tough to have
to find it. I mean, you brought up Jet Lachenko,
it's a great example. The example I'm gonna bring up
is Jack Nesbit. I think Jack Nesbit, the way that
he's been playing with the Spitfires this year, he's been outstanding.

(21:40):
Plus his size, his physical ability, I think he has
the making to be a future number one center. I
think Danny Brier saw something in this kid when he
was drafted, which is why he went up to go
get them. And I think I think, I'm you know,
I believe, I believe in Danny Brier and what he's
trying to do. I think he may have found a

(22:01):
diamond in the rough with Nesbit. I definitely think he
found a diamond in the rough with with jet Lachenko.
So I think it's gonna be one of those two
guys that are gonna wind up getting developed into a
number one center. But unless unless the Flyers while somebody,
or they go to a team like just I'm gonna say,
for example, I'm not trying to start any rumors or

(22:24):
or speculation or anything unless they go to like a
Buffalo Sabers and try and get Tage Thompson, a team
like that, I don't necessarily think that. I see the
Flyers making a move like that. I mean, Buffalo's right
on the cusp of essentially being a playoff team.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I don't see that. I think those teams I don't
see moving.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
On from a number one center, unless unless it's going
to be an older guy and it's a team that's
ready to rebuild. I just don't see it.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Happening, right, And I don't want to go that direction anyway,
you know what I mean, build this team from within,
and that's what they're doing there. That's the mL. But
talk about just touching upon Danny B's vision about finding
diamonds in the rough. What's up? Gregory agrees to the poll.
Can't keep playing from behind giggity and expect to win consistently? Yeah, no, exactly,
you gotta. I mean, no matter how resilient, no matter,

(23:15):
uh you know, how how much they have a protivity
to come back, you only have so many JJ said
that they already exceeded last year's come from behind after
being down from the second period. So I mean that
tells you a lot. But finding a diamond in the rough?
Where would this team be without Dan Vladar and his

(23:36):
two four to two goals against a nine one to
two save percentage, putting up similar numbers to his career
ceiling year with the Calgary Flames, as we hoped, as
we potentially expected. You know that that's been just an awesome,
awesome signing. Uh, you know, to like I said, initially
to work in tandem with Sam Marrison, but he's taken

(23:56):
the line's share of the starts. Brian.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, So I was listening to Snow the Goalie. Well
I shouldn't say I was listening to Snow to Goalie,
but I was listening to.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Clips when I was in the bathroom, and you know,
just scrolling like you know any normal person does when
sure that that, you know, you get that phone call.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Scrolling through and.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
We got Bundy. We gotta Bundy on the show sooner
or later.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
It actually wasn't Bundy that brought this up.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
It was actually Anthony san Felipo, and I thought he
was it. It might have been Frank Sarahvelli. It was
Frank Sarahvelli. Frank Saravelli. He he He brought up a
great point and saying that Dan Vladar, with his time
in Boston and obviously his time in in Calgary, you know,

(24:43):
he was always wounded up being like a tandem guy,
a one A, one B type, looking for an opportunity
to kind of kind of spread his wings and kind
of expand his game a little bit. I think coming
to the Philadelphia Flyers has been really beneficial for him
in that aspect, because it's not only that necessarily a
situation where he's gonna wind up being in on one
A one B. It's an opportunity where if he gets

(25:07):
the time and he gets and he shows what he had,
what he's made of, he's gonna wind up taking the
line's share of the of the of the starts there.
And that's what we're starting to see. He's starting to
produce a lot more on his end, and like you said,
it's probably in relation to a lot of what he's
done with, you know, just the opportunities that he's had

(25:32):
in in Calgary versus here. You know, he can take
the he can take the the reins and run with them.
So with valid Or, I think it's a great situation,
and I think it's a win win for the Flyers
because now you're getting you're getting starter quality. Can quality
starts out of Dan Vlidar. He's keeping this team in games,

(25:52):
and despite this offense being towards the bottom as far
as goals per game go, it's definitely a situation where.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Validar can flourish a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
In worst case scenario, either hang out with the Flyers
for a few years after if he decides to sign
an extension off the next year, or he can go
somewhere else and prove that, hey, I'm a starter. So
you know, he can go to a middle of the
road team looking for a goalie and get paid.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Right, there's gonna be a launching off point for him.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Bingo took the words right out of my mouth.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
I always do yep, yep. But no, it makes a
good point because by that time, right a cole Sloth
will be ready to take the reins. A Carson Bjornsen
will be ready to take those rains, as Zibreagan will
be ready to take those rains. And Aerison despite playing

(26:44):
you know, he was solid last night. Not playing in
a week's time. He made some tough saves last night
and that you gotta be strong mentally for that, so
kudos to him. But overall the play has been down
and and uh, you know, and like I said, Ladaris Carrie,
you know, lifted this team up between the net, between

(27:06):
the pipes.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I got a couple of comments coming in here from Eric.
I'm gonna go back to the first one. I hope
Mitch Cooff starts picking up the points.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
He will. Uh, it's early. He's way too talented.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I think he's with his I mean, his English is
getting better, but I still think there's some things to
get lost in translation as far as the game goes.
But I'm not worried about Mitch Coalff even even if
his points don't pick up this year sophomore slump.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Come back next year.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I mean, look at Badard Bdard had an off year
last year, and look at how he is this year.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
So Robbie thoughts, yeah, we touched upon it before. The
less time this team is on the penalty kill, the
more time on ice Mitchkoff will get. The more time
they draw penalties, the more time Mitch Koff will get
on that and then you'll see those points rise correspondingly.
But you know, you gotta be in better hockey position,

(28:00):
and then you learned that from playing. I mean, but
he just reached his hundredth game and scored his thirty
first goal, so you know overall, yeah, maybe more of
those were last year, but you're learning a new system,
right and and and maybe he's one of those guys
that's still learning right to the Sullivan's point, because he's

(28:22):
been called out and and it's more on a defensive
you know, been caught diving and pinching and then and
what have you. But once he learns better positioning, and
I'm seeing I'm seeing the improvement. We saw that during
that game where he had goals and consecutive games saw
him light the lamp against the Devil's too when Katoria

(28:43):
found him, right, that's one more.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
You know.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Another thing too is let's not just to give him
an excuse, but let's not take the microscope off of
his linemates. Keep your head up and find him because
you gotta you gotta set the guy up for talent,
for production.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I mean, yeah, no, for sure, and we might as
well just jump in, dude, now, since we are going
to do a little bit more of a shortened show tonight.
We're at about the thirty minute mark now jumping into
last night, and I kind of want to address it
while it's early. With Eric's second comment here saying Nick

(29:23):
de Laurier is a waste of a roster spot.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I'm going to fully disagree with that. I like Nick
de Laurier.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I always have. He has a role, he knows his role,
he understands it. He's not a point guy. He's a
guy that's going to go out and protect guys like
mitchkalv He's gonna go out and protect the guys like Forrester,
like Zigris. All though Zegress is showing a little bit
of biting his game this year, Nicholas Laurier does have
some value on the penalty kill as well. He's a

(29:51):
very solid defensive player, and he does have He does
have a role with any team in the NHL.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I mean, if you.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Look at look at the way that they if you
look at the way that he had the fight against
Montreal pulled the team right back into it. I believe he.
I don't I forget if he played against the devils
or not. But even even last night, and Rob, I
know you said you kind of wanted to talk about
this a little bit, you know, the fight with Douglas

(30:20):
last night.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
This guy has a role.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
His role is to spark the team when they're not
showing up. And to say that he's a wastive a
rosspot now because you know what he has value.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
No, he's not.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
He's not completely useless like a Ryan Reeves or anybody
that that kind of assimilates the style of game that
he he has, like Ryan Reeves is completely useless on
any team. He doesn't score at least Nicholas Laurier can
can put the puck in the net too occasionally, right,
But for the most part you're using him as protection,
you're using him as energy, and you're using him to

(30:53):
be a spark.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
What are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Would I rather see Nikita Gribenki in that spot? No, No,
I would not, because this team is too small. You
need to have size, You need to have defenders. Right,
when Mitchkoff got nailed the other night, you know he
had guys getting his back, right. It wasn't the Laureate,
but he would be if he was on the ice

(31:17):
with him, right, but he can get the guy back
on the next shift. Right. You need that guy that's
gonna be the answer, that's gonna be the enforcer in
order to police you know the game, and I know
the game has changed, but you still need that element, right,
and having Gribenkan in that spot is not is stunting
his development because meanswhile he can get top six, top

(31:41):
nine minutes with the fanoms correct.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Right, Yeah, I'm with you, Like a lot of people
are saying, put Gribenk in it, I'm abanking fan. Yeah,
I'm on the I I've said it multiple times. I
like the kid that like his in I like I
like what he brings. I like the positivity. My computer
is freaking out again.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Hopefully it doesn't get as bad as it was, but
we'll we'll see. Hopefully we don't. We only got it.
You only got like ten to fifteen minutes left, so
we'll we'll, we'll see how this goes.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
You're good on I M buddy.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, it's kind of flipping in certain areas.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
But uh, anyways, so so if I start flashing, you'll
know why.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
So with that being said, like I think we're banking.
I would love to see.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Him get more minutes on on the main roster, but
that's not gonna happen right now. That's gonna happen down
the road after the trade deadline open up a couple
of spots there, and I see Eric once again saying,
trade Tippett, Zumula and a first for a center and
a fourth. I don't know, with the way that all

(32:49):
of the Tippet's playing right now, I don't know who
you're gonna get at the center. But I mean center
position has been okay. They definitely need to upgrade, but
it's been good enough. But they needed they need to
spark in the offense just completely. So at this point,
I'm willing to trade for anybody that's gonna help.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Them put the puck in the net.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
But jumping into the game against Tampa, as I said
earlier on in the show, it's was a three nothing loss.
You're going up against one of the best goalies in
the world again, off to another slow start. Erison, to
your point, Robbie looked pretty solid in that I had
no issues with anything that he did. I thought it
was probably one of his better games, and I kind

(33:31):
of got the sense that he was frustrated after the game,
obviously not through any fault of his own, but you know,
I lack of offense, that I lack of offense that
obviously any goalie is going to be frustrated he gets
shut out three nothing but.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Offense.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
The offense just needs to really find find their game earlier.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
And and you know just some of your thoughts from
this game.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Well, I listened to Rick Tackett's presser after the game,
and it coincides to what you're saying, So I'll start there.
He goes, there were plays to be made, we just
didn't make them. Their best play, their best players won
them the game. Sorelli was awesome, Yeah, he was. He
had a goal and the assist. Hey goal, two goals
in an assist? Who draw three assists? And when we

(34:24):
had chances we didn't hit the net. There were plays
to be made, we just didn't, bottom line, and that
really summed up the game, like Tackett did, really in
a nut well, in a nutshell, it's a really inauspicious
start to the four game Thanksgiving week road trip. I
haven't had a chance. I'll say happy Thanksgiving, fam if
I before I forget before the show ends. But you know, hey,

(34:49):
newsplash Man, Tampa Bay Lightning are a fast team, like
I talked about before, so as fast as the Flyers
have been, Tampa Bay is the measuring stick and Philly
up short. And that's okay because they for they four
checked well. They had some chances on Vassi well beeit
limited due to Tampa Bay's strong neutral zone play. They
only had six high danger chances I believe, but it's

(35:12):
Vassy and he was on his game with the shutout
again though, Like Talks also said, it's great for our
players to watch these guys under pressure in gameplay and
see how they play. Right. It's it's it's it's it's
it's part of the learning curve. So I think this
is in the end, this three nothing loss, there is

(35:32):
some value to take from it, and there's some learning
lessons to take from it. You know, they just didn't
get enough quality shots and they didn't hit the net enough.
And when you do that, you're not you're you're almost
given Basie the shutout let alone, like you know, the
awesome ten bell saves that I saw make.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, and to kind of build off a little bit
more than what I said earlier on in the show.
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Speaker 1 (36:17):
Here's here's the thing for me, Vasilevski. You have to
get on early.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
If if you let him get into a groove, he's
gonna just get better as the game continues to go on.
And we saw that to your point, Flyers had a
number of pretty dangerous opportunities.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
He just couldn't had no finish.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Mitchikiv for example too. To your point earlier and to
Eric's comment, was he had a breakaway at one point.
He couldn't beat Vasilevski. You know, he's he's one of
the best goaltenders in the world, and he keeps Timpa
baying games every night that he plays for the reason
that he's the best. He really is the best goalie.

(36:58):
There's nobody better than him. And league right now, whether
it's carry you want to argue carry price because technically
he's still in the league. I believe he's in Seattle's
organization now technically. But you gotta find ways to get
get to these goalies early, you know, rattle them.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Vasilevski is like the Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Of NHL goalies. You know Tom Brady. What's the best
way to ratt him? Hit him a few times. What's
the best way to rattle Vasilevski or any gold in
the NHL. You score on him a couple of times,
Give yourself a lead, allow yourself to play with that lead,
to play a little bit more relaxed. The Flyers aren't
giving themselves that opportunity. And that was a good, good

(37:40):
showing last night of that. Again, I mean, Erison looked good.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
He looked good at it. He's getting side to side.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I think the Hagel one was just really bad defense
in my opinion, and then the other one was just
a really good tip by Sorelli. So there's really not
a whole lot that you can really blame him on
Rison in that game for so the team in front
of him has to be better and the offense just
has Again, this is this is the point that I'm
going to burn in everybody's brain the night the offense

(38:12):
has to score. They gotta find ways to score early,
allow them to play themselves, to play with the lead.
Otherwise it's going to be the same result against the
Bay the rest of the year.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Right, You're gonna be chasing, and it's hard to chase
down a fast team like the Tampa Bay Lightning. And boy,
do you know Matt fay Mitchikov wanted to score in
Vassilevski there, oh you know, oh you know he disappointed
so mad he had.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Won three opportunities in like three golden opportunities, including the
including the breakaway.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, the one, the one flubb the fan on the
shot too. Yeah yeah. And I mean you're gonna gripper
stick a little tight there. I mean it's a guy
you're idolizing, right, But yeah, Hegel's point. I think I
believe Hegel's goal that you mentioned was on an odd
man rush. Too many odd man rushes And and now
you could point your finger at the defense, but I'm

(39:04):
pointing my finger at the forwards not getting caught out
and allowing that odd man rush that just can't happen,
and and and and that's what I think you need
to work on in practice.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
No, absolutely, and and that was one of the things
that Sean Couturier talked about in his pressor was I
believe that was they turned off was one of his
turnovers too. That turned into that two on one which
led to Hagel's first goal. So that's another thing too,
is the defense or the offense. It has to be
a little bit have a little bit better awareness in
who's around because that's gonna happen. I feel like that's

(39:38):
that's happening more often than not this year, just from
a lack of awareness, guys not being in the proper position.
I think, you know, once they settle in, because you know,
we've seen a couple of really good games from them
this year. We I personally have yet to see a
a complete game from this team. But I'd say the

(39:59):
clo this is it's a devil's game where they won
six what was the six?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Two sixty three? For me, it's it's they just have to.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Be have better awareness and kind of take the game
as it's coming to them. I think they rushed too
much and I think we saw it a lot last
night as well.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah six three, Yeah, yeah, you do what I mean
that's what you're gonna see when you're playing the cream
and the crop, right when you talk about Eastern Conference,
and you know you're gonna have a situation where you
get out, you get you know, like get like like
was it? Uh? You know Zamola total bowing, headed, needless

(40:41):
cross checking penalty right that that's just that just kills
your opportunity to come back in that game. Uh. And
I won't just I won't just pick Onimola. A guy
had been high on Emil Andre. He got out muscled
on the first Tampa goal. Uh Jamie dres that was
a minus three on that. He was on nice for
all three, including the empty net. Or So, but I'm

(41:02):
not gonna pick on Jamie though overall I've I've I've
been encouraged by his play. Cam Yorke was excellent in
the Jersey Devil game. Uh. So, I mean you're on
the road, you're out of Tampa. I mean, you know, definitely,
I mean I don't want to make excuses, but I'm
gonna make excuses a little bit. Uh. I just in
the end, No, you gotta be played more disciplined. You

(41:24):
cost yourself an opportunity to have a power play as well.
And uh and yeah, like you said, Brian, you gotta
find ways to finished plays. Uh, get up the energy.
Uh and I mean ultimately this team. You know, you
saw de Laurier start that fight. It was a little
too little, too late, but but that I mean we

(41:46):
saw earlier in the season de Laurier having a fight
that really sparked a comeback for the Flyers. So that
was a good idea of good thinking, but a little
bit you know, too little, too late.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, Eric times in and says he likes them, but
he wants to see Gribankon in a little bit more
so he kind of shares our sediment on that. And
I saw other guys who will fight Hathaway Steeler. I
don't know if I call Steeler fight Hathaway. Yeah, I
would agree to that, but.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
I think we we're banking.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I think it's a similar situation of mitchkalv you know,
a little bit of a lot of getting lost in translation,
so not really settling into the NHL.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Game as well.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
So you know, Grimankan is young, so I'm not really
too worried about him. He's he's gonna get his opportunity.
He made the roster for a reason. So he's just
got to be a little bit patient with him until
we can free up some roster spots here. A bit
of a log jam at wing unfortunately right now.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Yeah, a bit. But there's an easy way though. I
mean for games where if you want to, you know,
you play maybe maybe a smaller team right of Montreal
Canadians for example, Right, that's an opportunity where you slide
Brink back with Katie and and Forrester and I look, rebecon,
why don't you give him top line minutes at the
NHL level here and there to further that development in

(43:05):
between stints with the phantoms and and we saw a
lot of chemistry with him in Matfe Mitchikoff in camp
and in the preseason build upon that with the captain. Well,
I mean, what better line, right, and you can have
you can maybe even have the kat c Forrester brinkline
play that top line minutes, have them slide. I've liked
what I've seen from devorak Z, Grayson Tippett, uh you know, overall,

(43:28):
I mean they're like, like you're you made this point
earlier in the show, Brian. We're seeing a lot of
good balance.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, and that's that's that's one of the I mean,
I don't want to say it's a long list, but
it's definitely not a short list, like a decent, decent
length list of.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Things that I've seen.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
That's that's very positive about this team. I mean, I'm
with you, Eric, I'm not one for the brawls so
much anymore. I know there's there's definitely a time and
a place for him. They are a part of the
game for a number of different reasons. But I'm with
you on that. I want to see what we got
as well, but again, just comes as a log jam

(44:07):
for at the position, and that's kind of the hard part.
But as far as you know the positivities that we're seeing, resiliency.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Obviously is for me the big one. Being able to.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Fight back, claw back into games, figure out ways to
get the overtime, sometimes getting those wins in overtime, getting
the wins in the shootout, which is something that as
a fan base we're not used to, which is great,
especially having zigres On there, who's statistical statistically the best
penalty shot taker in an history. Yes, surgical is probably

(44:49):
the best way, and he's teaching Bobby Brink too, and
Bobby Brank is looking pretty good. But you know, there's
a lot to be happy with this team about. You know,
they're taking steps forward in a lot of different areas. Again,
we're about twenty percent about twenty five percent of the
way through the season already, maybe a little bit more

(45:11):
than that, but.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
There's yeah, yeah, it's it's they're in good shape right now.
They're definitely taking steps forward from last year, which is
kind of what I expected. I didn't expect it to
be quite this much.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
But there's also still a lot that they need to
improve on again, not chasing in games, playing with leads,
figuring out ways and more.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Consistently get the puck in that.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
What I find actually the most impressive, Robbie, is this
was their first shoutout of the year. Yeah, this is
the first time they've been shout out all season long,
which I thought was kind of an impressive stat.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
It is an impressive stat, especially since you're talking about
a team that focuses a lot of their energies on
playing defensively well five or five right that you would think, Okay,
it's going to result in lower scoring games, which more
low scoring games, you have the more shout out, but
it's been the I mean, Forrester is just cementing himself
as a sniper for this team that we knew he

(46:08):
could be and is becoming right before our eyes. I'm
very encouraged with his progress. Bobby Brink you just mentioned
him gorgeous goal against the Devils and continues to have
an excellent shot himself. And like I said, I mean, like, yeah,
you know, eventually you want the playmakers in between, but
you're getting that play the playman. You know, they're getting

(46:30):
set up. So if they continue that, this team is
going to be just fine. They're one point out of
a playoff spot right now. It's a bit of a
long jam. But sitting with eleven seven and three record
after twenty one games played, if you told me that
I would take that eight days a week.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, especially in the position that they're in.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Eric says he thought the Flyers played well against the Lightning,
just didn't score a right. I think there were definitely
aspects of the game where they played well. I thought
playball defense for the most part played well. Again, it's
it's just the offense didn't, right.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Yeah, missing a lot of shots, missing the net. You
get you're giving an all world goaltender. You're doing them
a favor. It's kind of like when you're a hitter
in baseball and you're swinging the app ball for yeah,
you know what I mean? You know you want to
you want to? That right like.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Infuriates me so much. Uh So we'll wrap it up
here in a couple of minutes before we do that.
It wasn't a part of the agenda, but I'm gonna
throw it in here anyway. Cool, just a little little
baseball talk here real quick. Uh, just a little hot
stuff stuff because something was brought to my attention earlier
today that I had no idea what even happened. And

(47:44):
I'm curious that if you knew this happened being a
Mets fan, because I want to get your take on this,
because just blew my mind.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Why are why are the Mets training Brendan Nimmo.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
I had a feeling you'd asked me about that. He's
he can When he signed his extension, he was committed
to a lot of money for I believe what was
Brandon Neimo's extension. Let me see here, but basically, this way,
this is going to free up more money in this
deal because Simeon his less years less dollars right to

(48:19):
where you're gonna be able to potentially resign a Pete Alonzo.
Maybe you go out and you want to improve, you know,
as good of a year Nimmo had offensively, and he
did equal his career year at All Star year of
a few years ago when he got the extension. Defensively,
he's taken a step down. He was a decent center
fielder that lost his edge, moved the left field, and

(48:41):
I believe he was minus nine runs defensively last year
and that was a big factor that Now that you
free up an outfield spot, because obviously he's such a
long tenured met he automatically gets that spot. But this
way you can go out and you could sign a
Cody Bellinger, you can maybe make a push for a
Kyle Tucker, you could maybe package a couple guys for

(49:03):
a Fernando Tattis, and really, you know, they missed the
playoffs for as much money, and you get one Soto
and you miss the playoffs. That's a freaking embarrassment. So
you can't run out the same core. You just can't
do it. So a lot of the fan base this
wasn't It was upsetting, but it wasn't shocking. But I

(49:24):
ultimately you bring in semi In, who's his bat's falling off.
He's definitely depreciating asset, but he's still an All World
defender at second base, so you get value there. But
he can also potentially be flipped in a deal. Like
I said, Tatis, maybe they want to they get they
need a frontline starter, you know, packaging a deal with

(49:46):
some prospects to get Tyrek Skuble, you know what I mean.
So these are all the talks that are going on
right now as I pulled up the Yeah, he signed
an eight year, one hundred and sixty two million dollars
deal in twenty twenty. So now you got Semion, who

(50:06):
has I gotta go to a link, damn it, Like
you said, you caught me off the cup here he's
he's an unrestricted free agent, so he's got three more
years honest. Yeah, you know up twenty twenty six, twenty seven,

(50:27):
twenty eight at twenty six, twenty six and twenty million,
so you saved money there. And yeah, it was a
seven year deal signed earlier, so basically you gained uh yeah,
it would have been till twenty thirty and he is
a free agent in twenty twenty eight, so you gained

(50:51):
two years there, you know what I mean, money pulling
off the books and what have you. So so as
saddening as it is, and Brandon Nemo is my ever
met by far. He just plays the game the right way.
And I'm sure as a Philadelphia Phillies fan and most
of our fan base here, I know it's weird seeing
the flyers, you know, I just you know, I was
dropped on my heads like Tommy Wilson, always had a

(51:13):
couple of times growing up. But I love what I
love it, so I do different, you know, fell in
love with different teams. But anyway, as a Philolpia Phillies fan, right,
you could hate on a Piedolange, you could hate on
a Loan, So it's kind of hard to hate on
a Brandon Neimo. Kind of similar to David Wright, right,
guys that play the right way. As much as a

(51:33):
lot of my fan base hated on Chase Hutley, I've
never hated on Chase Utley. He played the game the
right way. He played Mark a little dirty, but I
mean that's how you play. That's how I played little thirty.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
But you know what I mean, like you respect guys
to play the game well. And that's why it's sad
to see. But I wish I wish Nims all the
luck with Texas Rangers. I think if he was going
anywhere and he had to okay the deal because he
had a no trade clause, right, he had to okay
to the deal. And I think this is one of
the teams that he told the Mets he be willing

(52:05):
to go to because of the market, but also get
to be teammates with Jake again, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
True. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Plus I also think on top of it too, that
the Rangers are a team that's still in in that.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Too, Like there's still I still think they're a playoff team.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
You know, I think they needed an upgraded center field
or in the outfield. I think Nemo can play what
all three positions out there.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
It's center field, he's he's more of a corner outfielder
at this point of his career. Just in terms of
his reign. She' said planning on our face and fasht
his issues, but he's definitely a better defender, even though he,
like I said, he had minus nine I believe it
was a minus nine but run differential. But they non
tenured a Doulas Garcia, so they needed to fill that.

(52:56):
So that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yeah, no, absolutely, And then I believe Jeff McNeil's a
freegent after this year too for the Mets, so that
was another need for them. So you're feeling this is
a this is a good baseball trade. You're you're filling
two needs for two teams that that are have holes
in those positions. Now, my hope is that the Phillies
go out and do the same thing and fill a need.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Hopefully they go out and.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
They sign a Obviously, for me, the main thing is
get Schwarb back. But I mean as far as like
the Mets getting rid of Nemo as a Phillies fan, well,
first of all, as a baseball fan, I love Brendanimo.
It's really hard to hate a guy like him because
whether it's winning or losing, whether he's struggling or read
hot at the plate, the guy always has a smile

(53:39):
on his face. He loves going to the ballpark, he
loves what he does, and like you said, he does
it right. It's hard to not like Brandon Nemo now
as a Phillies.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Fan, I hate Brendan Nemo.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, I hate Brandon Nemo for the reason that he
kills the Phillies.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
You get him out of the division is great.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yeah, oh yeah, just.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Because, like I said, for some reason, his bat shows
up consistently against the Phillies. It's like he's got a
vendetta against him or something, which I wouldn't blame him,
but just getting getting Brendan him out of the division
as a Phillies fan is great. I think the Rangers
are improved. I think the Mets definitely did a The
Mets did a good service of getting Nemo to a

(54:23):
team that is still a playoff still a playoff contender,
and also with bringing in a bringing in a player
an upgrade to fill a hole at second base. That
that I and I'm I'm okay with Jeff McNeil. I
don't hate him, I don't love him, but I do
like a Marcus Sending a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
He's also I think a little bit more versatile.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
In case, you know, something happens on the door, you
can always slide Sending over to shortstop as well. So
it's it's a good pick up for both teams for sure.
Real quick, before we get out of.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Here, Swoopy's swoopy chiming and saying what's up.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Guy also goes on to say, Nimo isn't even fast.
It seems like you should be very surprising. That's probably
has something to do with the plane of fasciitist that
he he has.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
You don't know that better.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Than me, Yeah, I mean definitely. So he never really
attempts a lot because he has that hustle speed, right,
but I mean he's still he's very in terms of
stolen based success, right awesome, you know what I mean.
When he goes again, and we saw that with Anton Richardson,

(55:33):
that's gonna be a huge loss for the Mets, their
first base coach, because he picks up something that was
a was a strategy that no one could match. It
was like the tush push of major League baseball, where
that's where just they didn't get caught by a catcher
for over three months during this season, Fry. I think
the last time they got they got they were caught

(55:54):
before the end of the season was back in June,
and and and it's and now he goes to the
l of Braves. So that's that's bad news for both
of us because he knows the trick to the trade.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah for sure, Swoopy, I saw the Brendan Emo trade
from I guess it was a couple of days ago.
I saw it this morning, and I figured I'll throw
it in at the tail end of the show here
just just because I just want to get Robbie's take
on it.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
You know, we're too big. We're baseball and hockey guys.
That's their two loves.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
And then Chrome chiming and said saying he hashtag disagrees.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
To the poll. Boys.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I love what I've seen from this team. They play hard.
It's hard to disagree with that.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Well, I when you talk about resiliency, right, I immediately
think the energy involved that it takes to be resilient,
and that gauge is going to go down the more
that you don't get off the fast starts, right. But
in terms of character resiliency, Absolutely agree with you, Chromer.
And that's what I said also when I answering the poll.

(56:55):
Albeit I agree to a poll, I still like the
makeup of this team and you can bank that they're
always gonna fight. They're always gonna have that fighting aspect
of the resiliency. No matter what the score is of
the game. They'd be down six to two and they're
gonna still be fighting for that game. So they play
hard till the final buzzer. There's no doubt about that,

(57:16):
oh for sure.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
And last one before we get out of here, it's
gonna be swoopy saying Soda surprised this year and steals shocking.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Yeah, but I guarantee you that's gonna go down this year.
He was a big benefactor of Anton richardson watch. I
mean for fantasy, for people that are are are are
banking on Soto being like finally the five category player
that we thought he could be. I bet you he'll
have fifteen stolen bases this year, maybe twenty, but because

(57:47):
that was his high. I think he had a career
high of twelve in the season before this season, So
I mean he might try to still steal.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I mean, if you could do it, why not, I
mean if you don't, I mean, he his power numbers,
he needs to get back on track. But I mean,
if you can still help your team out on the
base pass. That's that's still never a bad thing to
be able to do well.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
He had an over nine ops. It was if you
exclude the first month of the season, so I mean,
like you can't. I mean, you can excuse stats all
you want. But once he got into the swing of
things on the you know, in Queens, it's a little
adjustment taking the seven train instead of the five. You know.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
So no, for sure, for sure, niche no love it.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
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so definitely go check him out. Always a great conversation
with him and Eric Archer. They do a phenomenal job
over there. They just dropped a massive announcement tonight, so
go back check him out and go see what they
were talking about.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
So all right, buddy, let's say we wrap this thing
up and get get the hell out here and go
enjoy our Thanksgiving.

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