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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yo, everybody, what's going on. It's Tuesday night. You know
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Montreal Canadians. Flyers currently up three to one with the
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talk about Flyers closing out games against some of the
tougher teams in the league. Just had it back to
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back with Carolina, took both teams to the shootout, didn't
exactly get that second point, but they did get the
one point, which is really important moving forward. But we're
gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about how they
can figure out ways to finally get over the hump of,
you know, beating some of these top teams the league.
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Speaker 2 (01:09):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to a brand new edition of
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Dark Wing, Brian Daily, the Broken One Rob Hovia.
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And the pole question for tonight is the Flyers' ability
to hang with the best teams in the NHL shows
this team is ready to be a playoff team. Agree
or disagree, Obviously we've seen the recent results may not
necessary what we're asking for. However, though the Flyers are
not getting blown out by any stretch of the imagination.
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They have been in those games and they have been
in the thick of it. So with them being with
those top tier teams and also having gotten wins on
top tier teams even before the most recent games, is
this team already a playoff team? Are they? Do? You
guys agree?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I'm kind of on the fence about it. I think
there's a lot that this team is doing really well
in order to kind of sway meat thing that they're
a playoff team, but I still also think they're still
missing a piece or two to be a complete playoff team.
I think the one thing, and we're going to talk
about this a little bit more in the second half
of the show, is they're missing I feel like they're
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missing a killer instinct or you know, that that guy
who's gonna be your your go to guy come over
to me and I realized, you know, there's a couple of
names that come to mind that could definitely be that
that person. You know, Yeah, Trevor Zekersh's on a four
game heater, Mitch CoV is the future of this organization,
you know, he's your future franchise guy. Having a rocky
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sophomore year, which is which is good. You know, you
kind of expect that for some some players. You know,
Connor Bodard had a really rough sophomore year. Now he's
having a fantastic third year. So maybe it's just that
sophomore slump that you know, some players do go through
in their second year because they have to learn to
adjust to the guys adjusting to them. To me, you know,
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I think they are. But again, I still think there's
like a piece or two missing from this team to
officially be a playoff team. But they're as damn close
as you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know, a lot of great things to talk about
as far as what this team is doing well, a
couple of things here and there to talk about as
far as things that they're not doing as well. But overall, yeah,
I mean, maybe I just wade myself into thinking that, yeah,
I'm gonna agree to this, which I love doing. But yeah,
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with Risto being back now, and then on top of it,
you know, you got, like I said, Zebus is playing
extremely well. You know, Carl Grunderson has come up and
has points in every single game that he's played so
far this year. So you know, if you can get
some more of these guys in these more minor roles
to step up, hey, you know what, I think it
might be a sure if I agree.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Okay, Okay, Robbie, how do you feel.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
In regard to the team hanging with the best in
the league. I don't think that's what defines this team
is being a playoff team.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So I'm gonna disagree to the poll. They're doing.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Enough things right where they're controlling the pace of play
much much better against you know, stiff competition. We saw
that in the back to back games against the Hurricanes.
And it's not just an issue of measuring up to
these teams anymore, right, It's about finishing. And I got
a great quo as we do talk about that after
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we wrap up this game against Montreal three to one,
ten forty five. I got on the clock here, probably
a little behind to go left in the third period.
But this game is another game where the Flyers are
in Montreal, in their building, going against the team that
is third in the Atlantic and a strong playoff contenter
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themselves and handling business. So I don't think it matters
how they're measuring up these teams. It's got to start
being how are they measuring up to themselves. And there's
been a little bit of lack of confidence, lack of finish,
lack of how should I say, you know, just trying
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to make the perfect play when they have opportunities. And
that's just the team that's trying to find comps, trying
to uh, you know, build their identity, and that's gonna come.
But you know, until I start seeing the finish, they're
doing all the little things right and then the work
is obvious, but there's still a little bit left to
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go for me to believe that this team is a
strong playoff team. So I'm sort of like Brian where
I'm praising them, but I'm disagreeing to the pole.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
And yeah, so PRIs is saying Flyer's gonna be a
playoff team about Buffalo about to have a fire sale,
Flyers have to take advantage of that.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So PRIs I'm gonna throw into it. I guess he's
gonna be on the agree category.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
As for myself, you know, here's my problem with Uh,
I'm gonna say disagree only because I feel like hanging
in there with the top tier teams in the league.
That's great all, But as you were saying, Rob, it's
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not so much about hanging in there. You know, you
you don't want to be the team that's going into
these cities or going into those games where it's like, Okay,
we might have a shot. You want to get to
the point where no, we do have a shot and
this team is not intimidating to us. Once you get
to that point, that's when it's like Okay, now you're
saying and now, well, I'm not gonna say say, but
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now you you're better, you know, to the point where
it's like, okay, yeah, you're a playoff team. You know
the fact that you have to debate that, the fact
that you have to feel like, well, if we get
a couple of lucky breaks, we might be able to
beat these guys. To me, that says no, not there
just yet. Does it mean that you can't sneak in.
It just means that you have to sneak in. So
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if you have to sneak in, I'm gonna say disagree.
If you don't have to sneak in, I would have
said agree completely, one hundred and ten percent. But I
think we can all agree if the Flyers are making
it into the playoffs this year, they're doing it via wildcard.
Think we can all kind of agree to that, right.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So to me, I feel like that's the definition of Okay,
they got to sneak in. Doesn't mean that they wouldn't
be able to get in. Just means you have to
sneak in. So I'm gonna say disagree.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And they're not a lot for that top three because
there are some intangibles, But there's been progress, Brian Right,
teams are now game planning for the Flyers rather than oh,
let's start our backups in net, for example against the Flyers.
So it's definitely they've become a formidable foe. So they've
taken that next step. But there's still a little more
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work to be done.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
No, absolutely, there's there's definitely a ton of work to
be done still. In like like I said, man, there's
a lot for this team to be happy with, you know,
the the continued fight, the resiliency. Every last couple of games,
you know, they've they've had Carolina score and they've responded
super quick. Tonight, Montreal scored I believe the first goal
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and Carl Garnerston came in and scored maybe a minute later.
So their response has been great all season long. I
like how the defense has been all season long, you know,
putting themselves in pretty good positions, allowing Vladhar to see
pucks and be able to be able to see the
plays developing. So a lot of good to be done here.
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But like I said, for me, personally, I think they
are going to be a playoff team, which is kind
of how things are kind of falling into for them
because they're going to make I think they're gonna make
a couple moves, but in order to get that level too,
because right now I think they're a good team, in
order for them to get to a great team, they
gotta find that guy with the killer instinct. And Rob,
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you brought up a good point this team right now,
and this is one of the things I find to
be a negative for them is they're trying to always
find a perfect play instead of taking what's given to them.
I mean, how many times have you seen Sean Couturier
on a two to all on one break instead of
taking the shot that's being given to him because the
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defense is taken away the past, he's trying to make
the pass anyway. You know, they need a guy who
has that killer instinct, that wants the puck on his stick,
that's going to take that shot every single time. You
don't quite have me. I think it's going to be Mitchikov,
just from what we saw last year and a little
bit that we're seeing this year, which, by the way,
hell of a play he made at the end of
the second period, so typical cap to mitche for that one.
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But they need a guy who has that killer instinct
that wants the punk on a stick with the final seconds.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I will say this, I feel like, with the way
that his confidence has been coming back to him, I
feel like Zegras has the ability to kind of get
into that mode of killer instinct, and I think that
he's showing signs of that. I mean, I'm not saying
he will, but I feel like with his confidence coming
back and him kind of feeling himself a little bit,
and the pace that he's currently on right now, you know.
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I mean, hell, they're actually showing graphic right now of
players with the most points with a new team. They're
selling both the Vori and Ziegres. But the point being
is that, you know, I feel like z is kind
of like one of those guys who's kind of developing
a bit of that, you know. So I could say
that is like, this is a perfect example of you know,
if we can get more guys doing that, you know,
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then we can go in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I did not realize to work had that many points.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's awesome here in the.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Top six minutes.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
So I mean, he's out there on the ice, nun
and say it could be said from Zegras. You know
two guys that you really maybe Zegris, but you weren't
really penciling either in for your number one line. And
Zegres in this three hundredth game, has already tied his
point total from last season thirty two.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I love it right, maybe exceeded it with the goal tonight.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, he's he's on pace to to, Like I think
I said this a couple of weeks ago. I might
even even just said it to the guys at work,
But you know, he's he's on pace to to have
career highs and goals points.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
I think assists like, he's he's on pace to have
a career year.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Trevor Secresy is.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, and again I think that that's a huge thing
for him, a huge thing for the Flyers. Besides that too,
you know, I think, like we were saying, the fight
that's been there for the Flyers, the response that they do.
You know, they get scored on and then what is
it like two minutes later they'll come back and they'll score.
It's like, that's how you respond, That's what you fucking do.
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He's like, oh, okay, you want to go up three
to one on us? Okay, We're gonna get right back
into this. You are not staying two goals up on
us for very long, you know, So I like what
I'm seeing from this team. In terms of that Chris saying,
Flyers just have to beat the teams they should and
then steal a couple they shouldn't. Flyers should offer uh
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offer the far or I'm gonna assume.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Should probably offer the farm off the.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, maybe because it is off of the farm for
Tahe Thompson, everyone but Martone or mitchkov.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Right, And you know, I mean that's been the issue though, Priz,
is that, yes, Flyers are taking care of business when
you know, we, for example, face the Sharks of recent
even the Devils and Rangers who have been playing substandard
of recent and have fallen themselves out of the playoff pitcher.
So let's keep in mind that they're still lurking back
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there when it comes to penciling and the Flyers for
a wildcard team. But in the end, you take care
of business against the teams, the lower brown teams. But
where Flyers have been lacking is that maybe they earn
that point. But to your point, Brian, they don't. They
lack that finish to get to steal that second point.
They got to steal more of the second points than
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just handing them over, especially when you're playing other Metro teams.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, for sure, Mattie. Did you see that?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I did, And I don't know why there wasn't a call.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I don't know why either. Zegers just got cross checked
back by Josh Anderson.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, no call made. Referee was looking right at it too,
like face is right.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah, there's been a lot of that that we saw
dumb it Off go after Wrist the lining earlier after
he delivered a clean check in the neutral zone.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
That was.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
A good hard hit too. I love it. Rist Dos
bag baby.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, welcome back Wrist though.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, we've got uh Totoro. What's up?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
He's saying, what would you give up for all the power?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I feel like that that package is gonna look somewhat
similar to what Quinn Hughes just went for.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I could see that. Yeah, I mean, hey, you know,
congrats to UH Minnesota winning the Quintin Hughes sweepstakes. I
did not expect it to be them, which is kind
of funny. It's always the sleeper ones that somehow pull
it out. At the end of the day. So hey,
congrats to the Green and Red. They got themselves, they
got themselves a fine player.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And they had the best package. I don't think anybody
kind of top that.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
M I don't think the Flyers tried enough, though, I
would have, like I was a little disappointed in their
efforts there, Like they were just like that. I mean,
they like their guys and you gotta respect that. But
it might have been a missed opportunity.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, it could have been. So being seeing that package,
right we're seeing that package. I've been kind of thinking
about it in my head. I would have been okay
letting go of jet Lachenko. Is there anybody else on
that own in this organization right now that you had
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been okay, Like that's more of a higher end prospect
that you would have been okay with sending the Vancouver.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Hmmm.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I would say possibly Denver Barkie because we haven't seen
it at this level and you're projecting and it looks
really good. But if it's an opportunity to get, uh,
your top D man, because that's what this team needs.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
They lack a top D man, you know, they no.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Offense to Travis Sandhi he's played that role well, but
he's not a number one. He would be a nice
number two and York be you know, on the second
pairing that would really spread out the defense better. And
then of course they're missing that one center, so you know,
to lock up that one D man.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I probably, I might.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I might have given up a barkie, but I do
hear your point, Brian, not to skim over. It's hard
to top what Minnesota gave up. I just would have
appreciated more of an effort.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh, I agree with you. I agree from what I heard,
they didn't even fly to even make an offer, from
from what I.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Read, so.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I think you would agree that they were playing that
a little too safe, a little too cautious. They weren't
willing to uh to be a little bit more ballsy.
I guess as a lack of a better term, Well, you.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Know, maybe they didn't want to cheat the rebuild, right,
you know, because making a move like that kind of
causes you to cheat the rebuild a little bit. But
it's just when you have an opportunity to get that player,
a player that your head coach has already coached for
two seasons. It seemed like a really good match to
make an effort for. But they believe in their guys
and they want to stick with UH with what they're
building here, So I understand it. I just you got
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to make an offer. Though, when when when Quinny Hughes
is being shopped out there?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Agreed, agreed. It looks like the Flyers are It looks.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Like there was a penalty called on Zigris And I
would love to know what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Forgers and Josh Anderson. They're both getting two from sports
when I conduct or roughing.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Why because I don't even recall Zigris really doing anything.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Oh yeah, no, they went at it and the sticks
up in the face, cross checking each other, emotional.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Oh okay, now I'm seeing it. Okay, yeah, okay. So
I will say that is one thing. Zigris definitely definitely
needs to calm down a little bit. He gets it.
Let's his temper get the better of him.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That I'm fine with that though.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
You need players on your team like that, the guy
that is emotional and that rides on you know when
you're pissed. But also it keeps the locker room loose
when you're having fun and hamming up with the boys.
I was thinking about this when I was watching the
game earlier. I mean not in play wise, he's a playmaker.
He's a you know, not a proven goal scorer, but
can be a goal scorer in this league.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
He just reminds me of that same cut of cloth
that a Dave Polan was, Timmy Kerr was, John McClair
was Mike where they just they just they're fiery and
then they love to ham it up and make jokes.
You can even put Kevin Hayes in that for a
little bit. Not that I'm comparing Kevin Hayes to any
of those aff but just in terms of that aspect though.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying you can't have a
fire under you. It's just that there's a time to
do it and there's a time not to. And I
feel like this was one of those times where he
wasn't advisable because Montreal's trying to do is Montreal's trying
to get you on a four on four. So I
feel like that's what Zegris was kind of baiting himself
into there.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't necessarily agree with that matter, because you got
to remember josh Aerton to shift before just chief shot
of him in the back and cross check them. He did.
You got to respond to that in some way, shape
or for him. You can't just let it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I'm not saying you let it slide. I'm saying that
it's like, like you still have the receipt. You don't
have to give it back right that moment because your
team's on the power play. Wait until you know, you
get that opportunity when you feel like, okay, we're in
garbage time, now's the time to actually make that shit happen.
It's like, I got your receipt, You're getting it back now,
you know. Like that's just my opinion. How it's like
I'm saying, like there's nothing wrong with the fire. I
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have not doubt, just I feel like, choose your battles
at that moment. You know, don't don't let Montreal even
it up to where it's four on four. You know,
may keep it, you know, keep it on the power play.
Not that the Flyers have done much with this power play,
but still at the same time, it's like that's just
how I view it. You know, it's like strategy wise,
because Montreal's trying to throw the Flyers off, they're getting chippier,
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right now because they know they're down by two. They're
really trying to get the flyers to make mistakes here
and penalty wise, and that's the last thing that you
want to do is get yourself getting a little parade
to the box going. That's the only thing I'm feeling
on that. I have no problem standing up for yourself.
Just pick the moment to do it. Pick the right
moment to do it. You got the receipt, you know
what happened. When the time's right, then you strike at
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the end of the day, you know, just strategize it
a little bit better. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I like this spot because you don't know if you're
gonna get another shot at Anderson, because you know obviously
danger shot. He crawl checked them and he wind not
landed on his face. So there you already know. You
already had a penalty called on Gallagher for getting a
little emotional after high sticking Nick Steeler, which I don't
understand why he went after Steeler for that. It should
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be the other way.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Around, But I know why, because.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You know you can beat a guy like Josh Anderson
into getting another dumb penalty, potentially putting yourself in a
five on three.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
You could, But at the same time, it's like when
you're doing the same thing as him, it's like, Okay,
well he's gonna take the ref's gonna take both the
off at the end of the day. But as for
that whole thing with Galler, I know exactly why he
got mad because if you look on the replay, Steeler
kind of moves his arm up and the stick comes
and gets him in the face. So I think Gallagher
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felt that Steeler did it on purpose, where he moved
the stick into his into his face on purpose. Yeah,
so that's why Gallagher got mad at the end of
the day, which I mean, hey, that's your fault, Gallagher
for being stupid. You don't put your stick up that
high to somebody like Steeler who's gonna know what the
fuck to do at that moment. That's just really stupid
on your part.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
While you guys were talking, Dave Dart took one up high.
I think it was like in the up in the
shoulder collarbone area. I had to shake that off. But
he's a game where he's sticking in and thank goodness
because for a three plus million dollar goaltender who was
supposed to be brought in here to be a tandem goaltender.
He has taking the line share and is really impressed just.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
To his horn a little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And both goaltenders now have been much much better than
they were or the goaltenders were between the crease for
the Flyers last season. So that's helped them take this
next step as Montreal removes their goaltender. And this is
an opportunity for me to give him a little bit
of love. Jacob Fler making his first start in Montreal
with Sam Montebu. I'm struggling and sent on a conditioning
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stint in the AHL. This is his third start overall
and looked pretty good against the Penguins, but everybody is
as they're blowing needs lately, like as.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You said off Mike, which is hilarious by the way.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, this is a good opportunity for the Flyers. You
know it's a guy who, yeah, has very little tape
on them, which could be a disadvantage for this offense,
but it was also you know, he's he's expected to
be the next Chise guy for the Canadians. You know
a lot of hype behind this kid. You know, strong goaltending,
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you know this is this is a kid, Like you said,
Robbie's three games into his NHL career pretty much, and
you know he's gonna make these rookie mistakes like we
saw at the end of the second period where he
held onto the puck too long and allowed Mitchkov who
was full lying up the ice, to steal the puck
and feed Bobby Brink for the goal.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
So I think I.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Think mm has learned a little bit more English, and
he called out leave.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
It to get him to leave it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Maybe because the defender, the Montreal defender was not back.
It was Demodolph who was back in places with the defender.
You know, he's not calling that, he's not trained to
call that. Oh that's I think that was. That was
picking the pocket right there and set up Bobby brinkall
that goal. But in any of the three goals, like
I mean that one, you can follow him.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
That's a rookie mistake.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And you know, I mean, you know, we saw a
couple of those against New York Rangers, but in the
second start. But overall, I'd liked, like I could see
the pedigree there his side to side. He's real crisp.
He's got you know, he's just he it's these type
of things that you can catch guys when they're wet
behind the ears. Yeah, well there's another thing that's called greedies,
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but that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
The thing I do like that this team has done
this year too, and this is going to hopefully carry
on through tonight is uh it's a little stat in
this game. This this team when leading after two periods
is nine and zero, which is nice. This team does
know how to close out games. It's just going back
to the pole question is you know, the just have
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to figure out way to do it against some of
these top teams in the league and steal that steal
that second point. You know, they they did a great
job against Carolina all season long. I think they have
one more matchup in Philadelphia. Hopefully they can figure out
a way to steal that second point from them because
they've they've given They always give Carolina a run for
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their money, so you know, figuring out ways to steal
those those those we're starting to get into the important
second points in overtime now since we're we're almost at
the Christmas break, you know that's it's gonna be super
important if this if this Flyers team wants to make
the playoffs and really start attracting some really good free
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agent talent or even some guys who you know, say
have no no trade clause in their contracts and you know,
want to be added to their their tradeable list. So
they're getting there, I think, but there's definitely there's still
definitely some work to be done.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
As we're saying, sure, sure, and I would kind of
classify this they just got the job done a little
bit earlier in the game. But we saw Lake goals
in each of the first and second period.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Now, maybe you can.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Contribute that to a young netmind or maybe losing a
little mental focus, but it was great Chris plays by
the Flyers to get it done. That two on one
with Connecting and Zegris was a thing of beauty. But
Montreal scored the first game, the first goal of this game.
They were up one nothing and the Flyers a brod
All three unanswered. In Montreal, we're twelve well, I mean,
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this game's not over yet, about two minutes left to go,
but Montreal we're twelve four to one when scoring first.
So this would be what I would classify to your
definition of you know, taking the two points, you know,
and come back fashion against a team you're looking up
at the standings.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, yeah, I know. It was a good try. Unfortunately
the just not enough speed on that.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Uh by Risto again, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Did he miss playing? I don't think he did. Oh dude,
miss playing.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I didn't realize how much I missed his physical presence.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Uh I know, I mean I I I give and
Risto actually looks like he slimmed down a little bit too.
I look like he's like he put himself in really
good shape too as well. So it's like, okay, all right, Risto,
I see you, I see you.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Bud Jackson will come with another goal tonight.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
What I what I I will say too, is that
this you know, the way that this this game is
going with how chippy this game was, how chippy the
last game was between Montreal and Philly. If these two
teams met in a playoff series, oh my god, it
would look like, oh there we go, empty netter good
And that's t K putting the finishing touches on that nice.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
He needs them. He's got to get going.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
He does.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Actually another guy, He's a guy. I think it had
that killer instinct for their flyers, especially when we get later.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
In the year.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I think he just gets frustrated because he doesn't he
doesn't score in those moments, and then he just gets
angry at himself and then he starts gripping the stick,
you know, and it's like, Okay, calm down, don't come.
You just can't just can't force them, you know. But
all the same though, I just want to just definitely
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want to say though, if these two teams were to
meet in the playoffs, sers oh my god, it'd be
like a fucking old time hockey nineteen seventy style battle
between these two squads. Let's see here. Oh yeah, And
Totoro did say, like, what team would you guys want
to play the most in the playoffs right now?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Not Carolina not because of the fact that the Flyers
couldn't hang in there with him. It just seems like
bad luck against them. When you got a bad luck
against the team, it don't matter how hard you play it,
just like, of course our spounce is going to go
their way because why the fuck not happened the first
game and then then the last two It's like, eh,
(29:07):
I'd rather not face Carolina right now, I'd rather face
anybody else, anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Else right now. With the standings the way they are,
it looks like the Flyers well currently tied for with Boston,
I think they would wind up playing Carolina in the
first round.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Well, then let's let's change that, shall we. Let's make
sure we have a well, let's sure we have some
good points, so make sure that we can avoid that.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Well.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I was and Swoopy, who is absent this evening, I
was dming with him during the during the first Carolina game,
and they do play a suffocating form of hockey, and
it really it comes down to it that they don't
have to block a lot of shots because they just
control the puck so well. They're they're leading the league
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in a COURSI percentage, which just show reflects that time
if possession and the Flyers have gotten better.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I'm actually going to look up that stat in that degree.
And that's why we've seen a better level of.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Play, Yeah, for sure, and it's definitely been something that
they're they're continuing to work on. I was listening to
the pregame presser that that Tacket did, and the other
thing that they want to do is Obviously they want
to shoot more. I think they have three shots in
this period, but for twenty one overall, which is I
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think about the average for a rick pocket team. But
I mean that's obviously something they're working on. And the
other thing that they're trying to do too is as
the Flyers get to win for one final big two
points there, so you know, it's the power play thing.
He doesn't believe in set plays. He wants these guys
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to kind of develop their own kind of swag and
John dondm with ub Boys, it's it's I think at
some point you need to develop some plays here and
there just to kind of run, just to gain some
confidence in these guys. But again, I think it comes
down to having a guy who needs that, who wants
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the puck on a stick in that situation, who wants
to just his first reaction is give me the puck.
I'm gonna absolutely, uh you know, rip it into the
back of the net. Which not saying that it could happen,
but if the rumors are true, if I'm the Flyers,
I consider maybe looking at maybe acquiring Steven Stamquis at
(31:31):
the Trade Headline from Nashville. I think he could be
a good guy for this team to kind of help
develop some of these younger guys into that they get
that killer instinct that when you have the puck, just
be confident and shoot it, shoot it from everywhere.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I'm gonna say this right now. Our history of getting
former Tampa stars is not good. Just saying, does anyone
remember if any of the Cavia.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I'm joking, fine, finally got rid of I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I know it was them getting rid of Lavvy that. Yeah,
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But technically he would be a former Nashville star if
you even want to call him a star in Nashville.
I mean, yeah, demantics.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
There, that's all right. But also what's ironic too, I
didn't didn't we get rid of the Cavia two Nashville,
So this the weird parallels of that ship is kind
of funny for a full circle full circle. Yeah, there
we go.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
See.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
See, we're all about history here in Philly since we'd
like to go back to it so much.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I'm not saying that that would even happen, but just
pure speculations. He was the first guy that popped into
my mind that was available at the trade on the
trade block that could potentially help his power play.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Real question.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Before we move on and talk about former Lightning that
became Flyers, the one that actually I liked was Damon
lankw He was oh yeah for the Flyers.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
He was actually so big win for the Flyers tonight,
rebounding after taking a tough loss in two home and
home games that they unfortunately lost both in shootouts. So uh,
the sparkling undefeated streak that the Flyers had rolling into
that got absolutely shattered. So unfortunately, it is what it is.
(33:18):
I mean, hey, you know what, though we could say
though for a brief period, for a good couple months there,
the Flyers were the best shootout team in the league.
Say you know what, let's give them that. Let's give
them the flowers on that one. That's an impressive accomplishment
for any Flyers team to move. But all the same though,
it is what it is. So after getting this win,
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here something to talk about here, and that is the
finish of Flyers games they had to finish tonight. Albeit
it may not necessarily be against a team that is
one playoff bound, but if Montreal got back in I
don't think anyone would be that shocked. By it, I mean, hell,
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they made it in last year and they proved that
they weren't a flu because they they fought Washington hard.
So the point being, with this win tonight, Flyers rebounding,
getting the finish. Talking about finish in the last few games,
them closing out games obviously just because it's fresh. Let's
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talk about the home and home against Carolina, not the
results you wanted. Flyers had a really hard time because,
for one thing, they were chasing the game. That didn't
help anything. Secondly, on top of it as well, you know,
allowing teams to kind of sneak their way back in.
The Flyers had a nasty little habit of doing that too,
(34:45):
where they'll jump out to a nice little lead and
then a team will start to slowly creep back in
on them. And that's happened as well this season. Think
of perfect example, didn't they have a strong lead against
the Islanders and the Islanders slowly but surely crept their
way back into the game. Flyers still won that game,
but they made it a hell of a lot harder
than it had to be. So, guys, let me ask
(35:09):
you a question. Them closing out games, what is going
to be the key for them to kind of to
stop getting leaky there towards the end, to kind of
patch up the holes and make sure that they have
a strong control over the game and over the score sheet.
It's a game of inches, anything can happen and split seconds,
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but there are ways to make sure that you're finishing strong.
How do the Flyers do that.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Well?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Ties into something I was listening today in an interview
pregame interview up in Montreal for Rick take. He was
asked about how this team has played very well against
the Vegas Golden Knights and the back to back and
the Hurricanes, but yet three losses one and over time
two in a shootout. To your point, not you stated
(35:59):
that before? And this was Rick's o response. He goes,
the overtime play is something we're trying to work on
in those games we've lost. We've had our opportunities, We've
had a couple two on ones we're just not converting.
I think we're trying to make the perfect play. That's
where I got that from earlier in the show, Brian
(36:20):
was from this quote and and to that point of
what I stated before, when you're trying to make the
perfect play, that's really just indicative of a team that's
working to build its confidence and maybe overthinking when making
their reads, making that pass out high when they're playing
high instead of getting the puck down low, especially on
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you know, the power player when you're on when you
have that two on one in the ot period. So
it's almost there, just not quite there yet. Experience will
solve this. The more they're in these situations, the more
the hockey IQ will rise. So I just think that
you have to go through it to get through it,
as they say in recovery, and uh, when it comes
(37:06):
to the Flyers, just work on not making the pretty play,
getting the pucks on that right, making that and and
and stay mentally in the games because to you know,
Maddie's point that you let the Eyelanders creep back in
there before you know, this recent streak, and yes, you
(37:26):
were winning games, but it could cost you some valuable
points you need to try to take, you know, you know,
instead of just giving away that second point, you got
to try to take some of those two.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Brian, Yeah, no, for sure, I think you hit the
nail right on the head. You know, I think you
and I were watching the same pressor because I heard
him saying something very similar to that earlier too, about
you know, especially on the power play, seeing how they
have three guys up high, you're still getting the puck
up back up to the top of the point, getting
away from that and taking advantage of the open ice
(37:56):
down at the bottom towards the goal line and in
this in the slot. So for me, it's it's, you know,
very similar to that. You know, you get you go
into a third period with the lead, which is great,
and sometimes they sit back a little too much, like
I feel like they did tonight. It's going to allow
teams to get some prime opportunities. It's you know, I
(38:19):
twelve shots by Montreal in the third period, and there
there were a couple of really good chances in there
for me. You know, Robbie, I think you said something
great earlier and it was all about, you know, time
of possession for the flyers. You gotta hold onto the
puck in the offensive zone. You take a couple of
shots here and there, great, but you know, just keep
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the puck out of your end, stay in there, you know,
especially in that third period, you know, keep your foot
on the gas, you know, like you were saying with swoopy,
you know, become that team that that pretty much suffocates you,
you know, aggressive on the fore check, you know, figuring
out ways to get in the passing lanes, turning pucks over,
just basically holding them to their own end. I think
(39:04):
that's going to be the best way for this Flyers team,
especially in the third period, to come out and you know, yeah,
to win some more of these games. You tend to
know when leading after the second period, which is great.
You know, let's keep it, keep that, keep that rolling.
Start figuring out how to you know, especially early on,
(39:25):
set in the tone. We talked about this before a
few weeks ago. You know, set the tone, let them
know that they're playing your game, and then you just
go from there. It's all about time and possession in
hockey anymore. It's all about time and possession.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
The best teams in the league know how to know
how to hold onto the puck, and it's gonna come
with time.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Like like you said, Rowdy, you know, you got to
go through it to get through it.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
The IQs are going to continue to rize as they
continue to learn the system and get comfortable with it
and really start to create that chemistry together, right.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
One thing I'll point out here too, and it's not
something too uh Glosso even though obviously you would want
to win no matter what, you absolutely want the win.
But taking a look back at this, the Flyers last
regulation loss was against the Avalanche, which was back on
the seventh, which was a three to two loss, and
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then their last game where they were shut out was
on the twenty fourth of November when they lost three
nothing to the Lightning And the only game that they've
really been blown out recently was on the first against
the Penguins, which, honestly, that to me was a show
of the Penguins needed to do that because after the
(40:37):
way they had sloppily performed previously against the Flyers, they
needed to respond big time in that and that's where
I think that came from. Although doesn't give you the pass,
you still need to play up to the Penguins, and
the Flyers did not in that particular game. However, though
from what I'm seeing here, when you're taking three straight losses,
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the good thing and the silver lining out of it,
I know you still want to win. You still got
to point out of every single one of those games
and you still kept yourself above water in the standings
at the end of the day. Doesn't give you the out,
but it does at least give you at least a
little bit of a pushion to say, okay, we got
(41:18):
to point out of this. We do need to get
that w though. So that's the one thing I did
pull away from isay, Okay, we took three l's, but
they're all in over time, so we at least got
a point out of this. We did not just take
a straight regulation three straight regulation losses where you get
absolutely nothing out of that. So there is that a
(41:40):
little bit. That's the super lining I pulled out of
that whole whole thing.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Right right, And I mean, hey, look, let's look at
the facts here.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
So they get decimated by.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
The Penguins a bunch of games ago, but they come
back and beat the Sabers five to two, handle a
team that they should be handling at this point, and
even these three games earning that point. It really reflects
upon how we've described this team and how the coach
has described this team, and that's resilient. They come back.
They don't hang their heads and feel sorry for themselves.
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They come back. Now we were talking about Corsei. Numbers
actually looked up. They have improved, but there's still twenty
fourth in the league in Corsei. So I think that's
gonna be an area that the more you continue to
control the puck. I mean, this isn't rocket science. You're
gonna you know, win more hockey games, guys.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
And and on top of that too, Maddie, you you know,
here's a great point you brought up because Tockett said
the same thing. He said, we're looking at the positives
despite the fact that we lost. And guess what one
of those positives he talked about, we got one point
out of this. Boys, like, we're still we're we're we're
taking points away from other teams. So it's keeping us
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afloat here, you know, we're we're we're still climbing up
the standing. So that's that's a major pot of the
take away. But now it's it's figuring out ways to
how are we going to you know, steal some of
these wins that we probably shouldn't be And again, that's
gonna come back to a good combination of that killer
(43:14):
instinct I was talking about and time of possession that
Robbie was talking about that's gonna be a huge thing
moving forward. And because of that, look at look at
how good Filidar is playing. You know, I don't think
any of us expected Vlodar to be as good as
he is this year. No, no, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I mean, Flodaar is looking like you know himself from
like probably five or six years ago and Boston, right yeah, yeah, so,
I mean, honestly, you know, they're good. It's great, love it,
you know. And I think in a way too, I
think because of how things ended in Calgary, I think
Vlidar had a lot to prove, and I think that
he's showing that he had a lot to prove. It's like, no,
(43:51):
I'm not washed up. I could still do this. I
can still perform at a high level. And yeah, Wolf
was the he's the future, you know, goaltender for Calgary.
But at the same time, the dar is like, I'm
not chopped liver, you know, by no stretch of the imagination,
I'm still capable of being a strong player. I mean, hell,
he's looking at a nine to fifty five save percentage
right now. So that's a pretty damn good fucking percentage
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right there for a goaltender. In this league today. Hell yeah,
that's a great fucking percentage. I mean, don't get me wrong.
Is the metro the the goal happy division like the
Pacific Division?
Speaker 7 (44:27):
Is?
Speaker 2 (44:28):
No, but it's still pretty damn impressive all the same.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
No, the freaking Rangers are killing are killing the goal
scoring in this division. Eleven of sixteen games this year
they have scored less than two goals at home. Two
or less. I'm sorry too or less. Good Lord helped
Danaheim last.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Night, I'm sure it did.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
It didn't help them tonight they lost in overtime.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Oh well, you can't win them all, as they say, and.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Looking reflecting back to tonight's game, they were leading the
shots by a wide margin throughout the game and Montreal
came back to me, and you know they're gonna push
at the end, you know, getting any rubber on net
they can to try to get back and call back.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
But they took the leading shots twenty two to twenty one.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
And that shows the penalty and taking off the gas
a little bit like Brian was saying, but also a
little bit of mental taking the foot off the gas
with Zegris. Maybe Maddie, you made that point. Maybe not
be so aggressive, theyre allow them to take the penalty
because they're trying to get you shorthanded at that point,
and that's what can cost you games, or at least
(45:36):
give the other team that point, you know, instead of
taking too clear in regulation.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Absolutely, I mean that, And again that's just my feeling
on that. I'm looking at it of it just like, oh,
I'm totally fine with you getting him back. You can
absolutely take a receipt and dish it right back out
to his ass. Like just there's a time to do it,
Like you're in garbage time. You're gonna win. You've got
the time, and you see that little bit along the boards,
(46:04):
all right, drill them, have fun, go crazy, enjoy yourself.
He tried to do it to you, give it right
back to his ass. I'm totally okay with that. But
pick the moment, pick the moment, not not on a
power play. That's the only thing that gave me pause
was that was on a power play. I mean, that's
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just me.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
That's just me, and that's fine. And like I said,
I'm good with it. Go out and get them.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
You're up to you're already on the power play.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
What's the worst thing that's gonna happen. You're gonna take
him with you and you stay on the power play.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I mean, sure, that's true. It's just you know, you
know how it can be sometimes where you know it
goes the other way and you're the only one going
off the ice and you're like, what the fuck's that?
You know?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, I think because the ref saw it and he
knew what happened before that, he was just like, listen,
we're not gonna have this. Both of you are going
to the box. And if you keep it up and
you're gonna get you're gonna get a ten. And you
know you're gonna get a sportsman. I kin actually gonna
get timent in misconducts you whatever.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Right, and normally in normal circumstances, that's how the ref
would handle that. So you know, and I do understand.
I do get that. It's just you know, you sometimes
you play with fire, you get burnt a little bit.
You know, you gotta be careful. You know, Prison is
saying at times like these and only times like these,
I miss Brad and then he goes on and save
rubbing in his face. No scoring blue shirt bitches.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Fine on the road. They don't want to play it.
They don't like playing at MSG for some reason. I
was hoping Crider was going to get one last night,
but I'll take two from Cutter.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
He said, I'd be a ruthless coach. Damn right, I would.
And then he also says he was sweeping sweep that knee.
Johnny absolutely, listen, hey man, you want to try and
do a little cheap ship and I'm like, okay, We'll
fight fire with fire. I'm okay with doing a little
cheap ship. Back to you, It's like a right, all right,
(47:58):
we could do this the easy way or we could
do this the heart way. Either way, your ass is losing.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Receipts.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Man, uh huh so. But but yeah, I mean in
terms of the Flyers finishing out games, like you're saying
with the corsi, very important stat right there, that's being trackeded,
it's been much more of a of a big factor
that's being brought into the league. I think what for
like the last five six years, I think it's really
become more of a factor, which is good because it
(48:28):
is true it does show the results in it. And
then same time too, with you know, having a little
bit more of that finish, especially on your two on ones.
There's been breakaways too where they've just kind of there's
no like, sometimes I get it if you don't have time,
Like sometimes you'll get the puck late and you really
don't have a chance to make a move. And then
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other times they get the breakaway and it's like some
they're thinking too much about it. It's like sometimes the
most subtlest things get the job done. Like you could
pretend you could do a little headfake and just not
even move the puck and let the collie just leave
the five hole wide open and just let the puck
slide right on through, and it's like, there you go.
You made a move without needing to make a move.
You know, Just little things like that sometimes go a
(49:12):
long way. Keep it simple. You don't have to go crazy.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Just real quick. That's Gaturia and he infuriates me with it.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
All those coursing numbers that I was given, folks, I'll
give a little credit to moneypuck dot Com.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
I go there for all my deep.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Analytics stats for NHL. They have an awesome leader board
where you can look at five on five, all situations,
five on four, four on three others. So, uh, you know, Basically,
if you want to look at the underlying metrics, go
check out money puff dot com.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
I will also say this too, it is a privilege
to have Zigras on this team. And the reason why
it's just like, not only because of his play on
even but my god, when that man is ready to
take a shit out on the shootout, it is like
watching an artist just put together a fucking painting. It's
like Jesus, It's like this guy just knows what the
fuck to do. Does it always score? No? But god damn,
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it is terrifying for the other goalie.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Well, it's like who said tonight too.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
He just has a knack for finding that five hole
and keeping the puck down when you need to instead
of elevating the punk and missing the net. And that
sounds a lot of you know, that's that's just what
the doctor ordered here in Philadelphia, So you know it's
not always the easiest thing, but he has a knack for,
you know, deciding quick where to go five hole, blocker side,
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glove side, like he's been dynamy on the shootout.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah, it's a shame too, because I mean he did
have U was a ko Chekov I think was in
goal in Carolina. Uh was he was he in Gold Carolina?
Or was he in Gold Philly?
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Thin he was in Gold Carolina?
Speaker 6 (50:55):
In Carolina, Freddy was Philly. I have it backwards too.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Either way, though, he had him beat and he hit
the post. I was like, Oh, that's so painful to
watch because he had his ass beat, and I was like,
oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
I think I think once the season's over, we're going
to see uh, Danny and Trevor sit down and get
get a nice contract done. I don't think either guy
wants the other to leave here, so uh, I expect
that to be done. I think I heard where did
I hear that? I heard it from somewhere that they're
they're gonna get it done and they're just waiting until
(51:31):
the offseason. They don't want to have any distractions to
Zegras throughout this entire season. They want to give him
the best opportunity to play and and have.
Speaker 6 (51:38):
Just a clear head.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Could both parties want to want to be involved in Philly,
So that's that's great to hear, but it could be
dangerous as far as contract value goes.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Actually could check off was in the game in Philly
and they had uh bucy in.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
That at home.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
Yes, yeah, Boosy, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I forgot. It wasn't Freddy Anderson. It was it was
Boosy because they were they were seeing how good he's
been over the last stretch. Since where do you get
cleaned from? I forget where he came from, but he
was struggling there and he came to Carolina and he's
just been setting it on fire.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
He did play well, Freddy damn.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
But I mean, yeah, I mean to to since Creddie
has been playing well. Twelve games with the Hurricanes and
what he posts up. He posted up a nine thirty.
Oh no, no, that was flador. He posted up nine
three against the Flyers and overall he's got a nine
to eleven with the two oh five balls against he
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was I have to look at his his NHL as
a prospect profile because he's only been with the Hurricanes
on the NHL level.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Right right, So on that note, anything else major? Okay? Okay?
So anything else major we wanted to bring up with
the Flyers in terms of closing out games wise, or
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is there something we wanted to throw out there before
moving forward, just.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
You know, find that color instinct you know, find out
that shoot first. You know, guys who are looking to,
you know, increase your your offensive production. It's the only
way to do it. Don't pass the puck. Shoot, just
throw everything on that.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Right, Chris se Freddie Anderson to Edmonton as well. They
can have a one C and a one D goalie
paid in Jari and Anderson. And that did happen. That
trade that sent Stuart Skinner off to the Pittsburgh Penguins
and going back the other way was Christian Jari for
the Oilers. Yeah, it's interesting, how like, trade goalie for goalie? Interesting?
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That never backfires?
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Real quick, Matty, I just I just got you know,
you're you're this was brought up to me. So you're
trading with goalie who's basically going to be a free
agent at the end of the year to Pittsburgh for
a goalie who's three years older, has three more years
on his contract, is paying a higher salary, and you
had to give up one of your best defensive players
to get him. I would fire whoever's running the Edmonton
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Oilers immediately.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Let's see here, let's even but let's see here. Let's
let me just take a look. Who is the GM
the Oilers right now, stan Bowman is the GM of
the of the Oilers, so.
Speaker 4 (55:06):
Not getting us a good second lease on life following
the Chicago by Ascow.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
But I mean Jari has been a turnstile, right.
Speaker 4 (55:15):
I think he's been a goalie that I've targeted in
dfs many times. So I don't know what Emington was
thinking here, But it's not like you gave I mean,
like like Skinner is in quality, but yeah, having to
give up the other the defense too.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah, I mean both guys are I mean it's that
was a brutal trade. I mean maybe both guys. You know,
hopefully you new scenery can get these guys back on track,
you know, get their heads, you know, a little bit clearer,
hit hit the refresh and maybe I have no hope
for Skinner, but trician Jar maybe can can hopefully find
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his way again because you don't just lose your t
so he might be able to figure out he's He's
played in one game so far. I think for Edmonton
it was just sixty three wins, all twenty eight shots,
save twenty five of them. He had an eight ninety
three safer isn't great, but he allowed three goals, So that,
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I think good way to start.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
You're skipping over the irony of it, because guess who's
got that six three win over.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Oh shit?
Speaker 8 (56:29):
Yeah, so boy, this is uh maybe maybe Edmonton's onto
something here.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
They just got a six to three win over the fucking.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Pace Good lord, no it wasnt.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Well. Still, they're winning six to three right now over
the Penguins, so you know what, maybe they do know
something we don't at the end of the day. Right
now too, they are playing right now, there's thirty nine
seconds left in the third period and they're winning sixty
three over Penguins or the Pittsburgh Penguins right now, Terry, mates,
let me see are are is he playing? He is playing? Yeah, okay, yeah,
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he's posting a nine hundred right now. Meanwhile, what is
going is uh yeah, skinners and goal for the Penguins
and he's posting a seven thirty nine, So you know, yeah, baby,
Edmonton does know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
I have to take it back.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
God, this is great. I love the irony. Oh man,
you can't write better comedy than that. You really can't, honestly. Oh,
these are things you live for in the world of sports.
Just these silly fucking things that happen every now and
against another one. Oh oh okay, so they got some life.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Who just scored that Denton Heinen And that was with
fifteen seconds left.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Oh well, you know that's not over yet.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
Oh my god, that was on TNT.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
That one was on TNT. Jesus, I what is it?
You put the Flyers and the Sabers on and then
you put this shitty game between the Oilers and the Penguins.
What the fuck is up with you guys? Like, seriously,
I get it you want to mix it up, but Jesus,
that is not the best way to go about it anyway.
Speaker 4 (58:36):
Could turn out to be an offensive jugger ride. But
there are ten goals now in that game.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
Played that game for the Yeah, oh well.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
What are you gonna do? So hey, all right, well
you know, so far Edmonton's won that deal so far. Yeah,
we'll see how that bears fruit when we get the
playoff time. But you know, because I mean, we're not
kidding anybody, most likely evidence in the playoffs, So.
Speaker 4 (59:10):
I mean we're seeing a player benefit from a change
of scenery.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
Maybe Edmonton ken too.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yeah, that's what that's kind of where I'm going with
it is as far as Tritian Jari goes Skinner, I've
lost all hope for But I think you know, he's
been his entire career in Pittsburgh and he's been struggling
in the last couple of years, especially since he got
that contract. Uh you know, maybe maybe uh uh you know,
playing with with a couple of the best players in
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the world and Connor McDavid and and Leon Dreisidel could
be something that that rejuvenates his you know, his ability
to to kind of focus in on the game a
little bit more. And just like I said, hitting the
refresh button sometimes it's never bathing. I mean, I mean
best examples right now is Trevor's egress and Christian Devorak.
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So two guys are with a brand new team this year,
and Andre haven't two really good years. One is a
career year. So who knows, maybe Jari can find that
that a little bit of magic to and Edmonton.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Yeah, yeah, we'll see, we'll see. So uh with that
that covers the the big trade that happened and uh
which we got to uh see some of the results
of the night in the end, uh Flyers, Uh getting
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back to them. They get a big win tonight against
the Canadians, rebounding from a tough home and home stretch
where they took two l's, uh breaking the three game
losing streak that they were on. And yeah, so back
into the swing of things sort of speak here for
the Flyers. Hopefully they can continue to uh to rebound
just fine against their up and coming opponents. Their next
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opponent is the Buffalo Sabers, so they should be fine
against them, although Buffalo is gonna probably want to try
and play up a little bit because they did get
blown out by the Flyers five to two in the
previous outing. This will also be in Buffalo, so there's
also that little additive to it. And then the Flyers
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play the Rangers, and the Rangers and this is in oh,
this is in the garden, so you know, might be
a very enticing opportunity for the Flyers. Take full advantage
of that little stat that you threw out there, Briy.
So you know, a couple of interesting games coming up
for the Flyers and uh yeah, so hopefully hopefully a
couple couple of big ones hopefully gets strung together here
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maybe possibly, Yeah, one can hope you know, just a
girl with the dream here. So anyway, oh boy, we
thank you everybody for joining us for another edition of
Flyers Talk A two D. Next week is the week
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of Christmas, I believe.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Yep, Tuesday will be the twenty third.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yes, yes, it is all right then, so we will
see if we will be doing a show that week.
Not sure yet, it's up in the air. We'll keep
you guys posted on that if we do. We do
have a game that is happening that night, and it
happens to be prizz is Loving Chicago Blackhawks. That happened
to be the opponent that the Flyers will have on
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that Tuesday, and I believe it will be, Yes, it
will be. It will be in Chicago. So an interesting
battle between the Flyers and Blackhawks next week coming up.
Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
I think that's a TNT game. And I remember when
we reviewed the schedule in the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yeah, nice, nice, nice. So yeah, so TNT matchup for
the Flyers coming up against the Blackhawks should be an
interesting battle, Flyers taking on Connor Bredard and his squad.
So that's the next week. Until then, we hope everybody
out there stay safe, stay healthy. If we are with
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you next week. We look forward to seeing you guys
again and hearing from you guys again for our reaction
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Happy holidays,