Agree to Disagree Flagship Birds CHOKE Away 21 Point Lead in Loss to Cowboys 24-21! Eagles vs Cowboys Game Recap

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(01:03):
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postcam main topic in hand. Everything runs together here, it
all runs together. Run into our poll. The Eagles coaching
staff is primarily responsible for a twenty one point choke job.

(01:28):
Proven they were out coached and unprepared in the second half.
Do you agree or disagree?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
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over the years after losses. Yes, I mean I do

(01:58):
agree combination because yeah, I mean a lot. A lot
happens to blow a twenty one point league, A lot
has to happen. Okay, twenty one point leads on blowing
them don't happen all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
If you have that lead in.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
The first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, doesn't really matter.
They're hard to They're hard to blow, like to you
know they're there. You could blow twenty one point but
still win the game. Makes that like it's just it's
it was like runs in basketball. It's hard for a
team that to end up winning a game they come
back all the way from them. Okay, that kind of deficit.

(02:31):
So here we are and why did we Yeah, I
think a little bit it's unprepared, but I think a
lot of it's discipline focus, right, because one of penalties.
Penalties are disciplined and focus way too many like drive killers.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Right.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
The big one that Dallas gotter, which was you know,
you know, we don't know everyone was lined up wrong
or not, but there was two of them and the
one that they smith that got called for the pick
was it was a BS call, okay, because.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
The quarterback may contact. And there was a lot of
BS calls to get it to twenty one to fourteen.
On the one drive to get it to twenty one
to fourteen for the Cowboys, there was all right, but
that being said, we have way too many penalties and
way too many penalties in the second half that have
set you back and not allow on offense. It's good
enough to get into a rhythm. But you know why,

(03:22):
Actually I'm gonna disagree because to the poll, I'm gonna
gree to coaching obviously responsible for it. Everything plays a part.
When you can't run the football. This is what you get.
This is what you get, and when you we've had
we've talked about this the biggest concerns throughout the year,
and everybody talks passing game, and that's not a concern

(03:43):
of mine. The bind really is when you can't run
the football, you can forget about the rest. I don't
care how great a passing game you have. I don't
care how great your wide receivers are. I don't care
how smart of a coaching staff you have. You can
finished games, you can't close games out.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
This is a game.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
If you can just run the football decently, you win
this game. But when you run a yard and a
half per clip, when it's a struggle to run the football,
when guys are three yards in the backfield and you
can't run it at all, you can miss me with
everything else. Okay, you can blame this on a lot
of people and blame them away, but it starts up front.

(04:29):
And from the first time we all watch football, the
one thing we were always taught is you went up
front of both sides of the football. So when you're
losing up there and where every quarterback talks about where
you need a run game, we have no run game.
That's the big reason why you blow a twenty one
point lead, the major reason why, and the penalties for

(04:52):
the other reason why.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
There are two reasons. If you guys want to play.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Patulo and Sirianni, be my guest, right, and I'm sure
there's reasons the playing boat both. I mean, it's it's
it's his football team, Nick, But I got confidence Nicke
will clean clean them up. Okay, But if you want
to be the fire Kevin Buttlow trade, be my guest.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't. I'm not gonna disagree with you.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Right, But what I end saying is you're not watching
the rest like we got to run the football better
than this, and with with with a guy like Saquon
Bark but the fact that we can't and when we
have sixty three yards on the ground today and part
of that part of that, yeah, sixty three yards on
the ground. I mean we cannot run the football. You
don't know why we lost? Say that's why thirty You

(05:34):
become one dimensional.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
This is bad.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I mean, this is bad when you can't run the
football against them, So who are you gonna run the
football against? So I disagree with the pole. I think
it's more than just a coaching. I think it starts
off front with this offense line and the ability to
run the football a little bit and sustain it, and
then penalties up front, and it's just continuous. It seems

(05:59):
like a happens every game that will have our drive
and we're getting going and bang and bring this back
kills the drive and too much of it. And then
obviously the fumbles, right, the big Saquon fumble, and then
you have a big you know, and you have a
you have a big fumble inside the two. Not sure
why you're running that punt will turn out, but there

(06:21):
are all the reasons why, you know, coaching heads into that.
But that's where I'm Matt, So I'll you know, I
guess I'm disagreeing because that's to me, it's so much.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yeah, Tommy, I absolutely disagree with a pole and I'll
dive right just down into the offensive line.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Right.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Over the last few weeks, we've talked about how bad
the offensive line has been in the fact that we
can't we can't run the football. As you mentioned, right,
we can't run the football right. Every time Saquon touched
the ball, it was he was getting he was getting
hit in the backfield whatever, right, Like yeah, like you said,
there's plenty of blame to go around, and when you
lose a twenty one point lead in the first half,

(07:03):
uh and lose the game. But to me, it all
starts on the offensive line. You look at a few
a few of the plays and everyone wants to crush
Patoya when I get it. It's easy to crush padul well,
but I can't crush him tonight because of how many
penalties we had on the offensive line and getting set up.
And yes, I understand a lot of that is is disciplined,

(07:23):
but that's the players being playing the game, right, So
I put it solely on the players that lost this game.
Fred Johnson on that on that Davonte catch for a
first down, Fred Johnson, hands in the face That wasn't
It wasn't a tikie tak call. That was legit hands
in the face right in front of the umpire already
referee or whatever, right, So that brings that call back.
We talked you told you mentioned about the two Dallas

(07:46):
got it ones. The first one was a huge play
that got us down in in the Cowboys territory that
was brought back because of a formation penalty, and then
we talked about the then you mentioned the other one
about the pick from from Sike from Davantain's off. You
can't expect an offensive coordinator to do anything when you
continue to put yourself behind the sticks. We saw that

(08:09):
we I mean, we would have happened in the first
half that gave us the that helped us get the lead,
right Dallas continued to make mistakes and give us the
football or give us a short field, or give us
the extra down because of a penalty, and and that's
how we were able to get get going. And we,
in turn, in the second half, did that exactly to them.

(08:30):
So I put this soul on the players. I put
the soul we on the offensive line. Sure, there's blame
to go everywhere, but yeah, I'm not putting this one
at Petullo's feet. You can put every other game where
you want to put Duo's feet. I'm not putting this one,
at least be personally. I'm probably on from reading Twitter
and the comments section already. I'm probably in the minority there.

(08:53):
But he's not going anywhere. So can we stop with
the Can we stop with the fire Patulo?

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, Jason Bens at fourteen penalty in the game is
way too many. That's how you allow bad teams to
stay in games. Our team is not that aren't as
good as you. That's one reason how. And they did
and they showed you. Chris Kaufman appreciate the superchiits.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's bigs.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
He needs to play more starting next week. And I mean,
I've been saying it for weeks. I just feel like
you get a change of pace and they don't see
in the world want to do that.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
And when you're up twenty one nothing, that's a.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Perfect time to maybe start getting a guy more touches,
et cetera. But they killed themselves today, says I don't
even know where to begin. They can't run the ball
while we filling punts to the one yard line. Yeah, defense,
they were on the field for forty minutes.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
What does anybody expect?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
The offense losses a game, penalty's losses, and the refs
sock yup combo guard of a bunch of things. For sure,
not all refs put a part of it to make
it twenty one fourteen. Alluded to that earlier. But you
got to run the football.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean, I'm not trying to make this.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Show like The Captain Obvious, let's just get the basic
one on one on football. But again, from the first
time you learn about football, you learn how you win, right,
and it's off of play action, it's running the football.
It's the same drives things that have killed their football
team throughout the entire year.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, so what changes that? Well, what changes that is.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Running the ball well enough, They didn't even have to
be a top ten rushing attack. They were just top fifteen,
top fifteen. They would this offense would be way better. Yes,
and that's the biggest issue. So until they figure out
the run game. Really, until they figure out the run game,
the rest is just whatever. And I put a lot

(10:46):
of the penalties on the media and you're gonna say, Tom,
really yeah, because it's a flight out distraction. Everything else
is a distraction. Now you gotta be a better football
team and can't with that? See been right? But that
is to me, tells me it's a football team not
focused and not discipline. And maybe that's because everything else

(11:08):
being talked about. Okay, but if you can't run the football,
you ain't cutting nets down, you ain't going deep in
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
And you know what else can I say what else?

Speaker 6 (11:23):
I said?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I mean, we spent a ton of money on a
running back and he's averaging.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
He's averaging up goodness, gracious, I don't even want to
tell you what he's got.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
He's booty cheeks.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I mean, it's been there's too much dancing. It's not
him right, some tim and some he's trying to make it.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
He's trying to make up for what the offensive line
is not providing.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, I mean, he's having three point seven yards to carry. So,
I mean, that's not where anybody signed up for. But
when you can't walk and you just can't get anything
else going offensively, guys, and that's where you just can't
get the consistency of drives and the finishing of drives
and the sustaining of dries and.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Putting a team away up twenty one nothing. How do
you do that?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, that's a six to seven minute drive away from
that game, not matter at some point in that game.
If there's a six or seven minute eagle driving there,
which we've not seen yet this year. All year, we've
been asking for it, Yeah, been begging for it. If
there was a six or seven minute eagle drive building
that game, somewhere the Cowboys don't win this football game,
and that's what that's what's missing. So you know, everyone

(12:30):
wants to know where it is and Whyser's inconsistency offensively
there it.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Is, so.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
And you're right, you're right, Tron, He says Cam Jurgen
has seen them be laying too much pressure up the middle.
I will remove Jurgons to guard and bring Tooth back
the center offense. Run the ball well. With Tooth at center,
we're better. Yeah, I actually agree with you, man. I
wouldn't even be against that. You know where you know.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Jergan, it's like a combo or he could do both.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
He did, Yeah, he did the Kelsey's last year he
played guard. Yeah, but last year and again it's last year.
But last year when a Super Bowl with him at center,
you know what I mean, and he was at.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
All pro So I think he's banged up. And I
think that banged up.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
I was shocked he even played today with how late
in the week that he, you know, was deemed like
he I think he was deemed playable today. So like
it'll be interesting to see though, because because uh Eddie
Lampkin seems to be ready, right, They didn't pull him
off of the I l yet, but he seems to
be ready. He's a combo, he's a guard center. Also,

(13:40):
it'll be interesting to see if they do any moves
similar to what's being uh, you know what's being suggested.
Maybe Lampkin slides in for Steene at guard or maybe
they just move same thing like that, like you know,
put Lampkin at center or Toates at center and move
them over. But you know, toad a big time only
today too. You know, he was the one that got

(14:02):
called for that formation penalty on the gonerment.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
It's a contagious thing, you know. It's a chemistry thing.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I mean, the starters that played together all of like
one game or something.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I mean, it's really just it's no chemistry up there.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
You don't know who's playing gaming game out, it seems like,
and it just hasn't been able to have been able
to put it together because of that and sort of
grow together through had a season. Yeah, I think that's
the biggest problem what we're looking at when we talk
about the Eagles offense, and I think everybody else. You
could watch a ton of film and you could try
to sit here and elaborate more. But I think you're

(14:39):
just you're just wasting your time really because it's it's
that simple.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's that simple.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
So they want to get to the next level, it
starts with figuring out a way to be able to
run the ball.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I mean, I don't know, and try some different things.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Right, I mean, I know there's loyalty and all this,
but you know, this is where you you might have
to protect people from themselves. If guys are too hurt
to play, you might you know, you just might have
to do some things. I don't know, but this is
not ideal. This is not what we've thought coming into
this year, right.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
We just didn't. We just did not. And this is
a big reason, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Why Makai Beckton should have been brought back, you know,
especially no we were losing the coordinator. You know, how
many how many offensive linemen can you bring back playing
well either well, he's not playing well there, but he's
played great here. Yeah, I'm not saying he would have
been playing played great here. Sometimes you just have a
bad year, and this is what we're up against. I

(15:39):
think it's mainly mainly because the injuries, but this is
beyond bad.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
This isn't just a bad year. This is one of
the worst offensive lines of football.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
It is.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
It's playing like it is, Yes, And I think the
I probably finally think the long seasons are catching up
to this offensive line, right, the long seasons of you know,
going to super Bowl, going to the playoffs, back to
a super Bowl. And that's no excuse, right, they're all professionals.
You got to get through it. But you know, every
once in a while, like you said, you run into

(16:09):
these years and it's so funny, like we sit, you know,
going into any year, you sit there and you're like, oh,
you know, you win a super Bowl, you can do
whatever you want for the next two three years. So
that's out the window anymore.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, the expectation.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Of they just get to a super Bowl, just get
to the playoffs, winners, super Bowl here or there is
just completely out with the expectations of what we think
this team should have done. And I'm not saying that's
any fault of anybody, right like that, we expected this
team to be to be the best team in football,
and I'm not saying they're not playing like it right now,
but they still record wise are right, And but that's

(16:45):
the expectations of what this team has built and the
expectation that this team coming into the year we thought
they were going to be right, there was there was
no hey, just get back to the playoffs. No, we
expected and then and the team expected to continue to
win at a high clip and continue to push for
championship year in a year out. And now you're up
against it right now, you're up against your own expectations

(17:08):
and your own, uh feeling of of what expectations inside
the building.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, Jason, I agree with this one.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
As soon as the Gene went to the outside, Dallas
went right after him. And we talked about this, right
that sometimes that's not the smartest thing to do, is
go move your best nickel guy of the outside. And
they did it today, and I think I got exposed,
to be honest.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
With you had to right.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
No, I mean you can, you can have to do
it all you want. I'm just making a point back there.
Sometimes you don't. You don't don't change what's not what's broken,
what's not broken, you know, don't fix what's what's not broken.
And there's a situation where he's the best slock guy
in football. You want to sort of it to me,
I want to leave him in the slot. But I
also hear you. I'm just saying today on the outside

(17:55):
was a little bit of an exposure that that's all
I'm saying. I'm not a cross the kid. I love him,
he's awesome, but we don't play out there all the time.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
That's an adjustment, like you know what I mean, Like,
that's an adjustment.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
And as much I want to ship on the defense,
how am I shitting on the defense that guy that
got a fumble given given the Dallas at their own,
like fifteen yard line, and they did not score, not
even a point, no doubt. How do I shit on
the defense to work a defense that had him on
the five yard line and picked the ball off right

(18:29):
like the defense did everything you need a defense to do.
When it comes down to YU lost this football game
in today's world. I can't believe I'm saying this, But
I need Jake Allied to make a fifty six yard
field goal in the Dome. I hate it, am I
like blaming them putting it on Jake, But I need
you to make that. Yeah, I need I need it.

(18:50):
I need it, but again, not fully on you, but
need it. And then again, like the turns, the turnovers
and the amount of penalties, the amount of that Dallas
got one right there, that's the ball game.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Like, that's a that's a thirty yard play. You're in
their own zone.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
You're down there at least three points, right.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
At least three points because you're at like they're thirty. Yeah,
you're thirty. The whole thing gets blown up because now
you're ten yards back from where you were and you're
at your own like thirty five.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Like it's such a momentum killer, and they gotta.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Figure out a way to stop it because it's not
something that just started. It is not so we're gonna
come in here and make fucking excuses for the Eagles
to night. It's not something that just started. I'm the
biggest glass half full guy. I'm the biggest I'm in
San Skuy. I feel like when it comes to comes
to sports, where I just gotta keep it basic and
not get too much in my feelings anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
But you know.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
This is this is offensive football or just huge letdowns,
hugely And I am blame a little bit on sa Quanto, right, Like, yeah,
it's on the offensive line, but I see a lot
of dancing at different times too, So I think it's
a combo. I think he's missing holes. I think they're
they're not helping it. Again, takes two to tango, right,

(20:19):
they have his numbers. I mean I could have I
could have paid a seventh round pick. I coulda I
could have had an undrafted rookie do that for less money,
and I can invest that money into something somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Mm hmm Marsha. No, No, I don't feel that. I
don't feel that because they're gonna win Friday.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
No, because yeah, and the schedule was caked at the
end of the year here.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Like you're gonna get two wins versus Washington.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
The schedule's cake. You might lose one game, maybe Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
You know cake.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
In mean, Chicago is a really good team coming out.
You don't have to buy into it, right, records say
what you are.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
They're good.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
They're good.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, that's a good team coming in. I'm not saying
they we shouldn't beat them. I'm not telling you.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Any of that. I'm not telling you they're a year early.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I'm just telling you they're a good team in today's NFL, right,
and in what the NFC is they're a good football team,
they're fine, ways to win games, etc.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Give you that. Yeah, one score games since the Giants, Vikings, Pittsburgh.
Say it again, they have one score wins. They're four
wins four in a row. They have one score wins
their last four at Cincy home versus Giants, at Minnesota

(21:46):
home versus Pittsburgh, all one score games. There are other
wins Dallas at Vegas, at Commander's Saints. So they're beating
teams they should if they want to, if they're you know,
want to be eight and three and win the when
the Central or the NFC norths or whatever they call it.

(22:08):
But we we should have our way with them.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, I'm not gonna go say we should have our
way with anybody.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
If we can't run the football like we've been talking about,
if we are off.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, this is just where I'm not. I'm not you know,
I probably we're a damn go football team. I think
we're we're one of.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
The best teams in the NFC.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Okay, a top three team in the NFC, A team
you should worry about in the NFC. But you know,
I'm gonna be honest for you. This defense to me
is awesome. But if you can't run the football, all
bets are off, all bets are off. And I don't
know where they make up for the run game, right,
because I mean today ran a little bit.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
More with you allen a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, and maybe that will start the payoff as as
this season wraps up at a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
But they gotta figure it out.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
And that was only seven times.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, and they gotta figure it out.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
And Tom he ran more designs and didn't run at
all on designed.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, it's strange and he can't.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
And the one blame I do have on jailing, and
there's one major blame I have on jail tonight. Uh,
you can't take that sack on you. It can't happen.
You have time, your time. They escape up the middle
out or just run it. Just run up the middle, dive,
just dive forward, right because it's a situation you can

(23:34):
go for it.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
If it's on fourth and one, you know you guys
are going for it.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, so you know that's what dried that that that
one was on him. But again I'm not gonna put
this all on jail. And this is when you have
that many penalties, I don't.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
I don't think. I don't think. I don't know where
this whole Jailen played bad today is at. I understand
people want to hate them, you know what I mean,
and want to blame them, But I don't know where
where Jalalen played bead today is in the carts.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, Bill, I can't blame them for third and two passing.
I mean that is that this running game has been.
It's been goddamn, goddamn atrocious, Bill, And you want to
blame them for a third and two for fucking punting,
I mean for throwing. I mean, I can't blame that.
Goodness grazy were watching the name running.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Rushing at that.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I don't care what quarterback in the history of football
that you want to go and talk to for the
history of the world. Guys in freaking Cooper, I can't, sorry, guys,
he can't. Guys up a canton that will tell you.
They need a running game too, all right, Troy ank
me a lot of great ball games, right, and can't
go jack a guy right need a running game, they
all do.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Mantanan has some good backs too. We forget Brady had.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Good backs there in New England, and they aren't great backs.
They run the ball even if they were big name,
they ran the bull well with anybody. And for Jet
for for I love the cowboy roaches too, like Jesse
to come on in here right, like like, oh, can't
can't bail out jailing dude? How many years the Cowboys

(25:16):
fans bitch and milk because they had no running game
and it was all on that And he can't win
games by himself, no ship, because none of them can.
I mean, running backs aren't important until they're important. The
running game isn't important till it becomes, oh evidently important
that if you can't run the ball, this doesn't need
to be number one rushing off in the football.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
This needs to be a top ten rushing attack. You
don't need to be good enough.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
You need to be good enough with the amount of
money you're spending on it.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
That one he is not the same. Yeah, and there
was a highway built for jailing the run, for jailing
the run.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
He's looking at aj because this is what happens. What
happens when all these reports come out and all this
stuff comes out, you start eyeing the guy, maybe sometimes
too much. But where you take away from this being
you right, But this isn't the AJ jailing reasons on
why Eagles lost this football game today. He isn't fourteen
penalties and I want to say one of them came

(26:18):
in the second half.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
You can't. They'll leave scenes in games, leave seems in games.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, you can make the case last week that that Jalen,
you know, forced it to AJ, But that wasn't the point.
That was this week. He didn't force anything. Everything was
open to AJ.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Everything was in rhythm though him. To be honest, yeah, yeah,
anything forced. I mean you could. You can make casey
you're forcing the guy, and well you should force feed
number one wide receivers now, not to the point where
you get yourself locked in on him too much. Now
that specific one Bill's talking about. He was looking his
way and then he got caught. But again, I don't
want you look in the on right away. But I

(27:00):
want jail to be jailing. I want jail to be
the reason he's I want jail to be jailing because
Jalens the reason we've gone to two Super Bowls in
three years, right and hoping to go to three and
four right, because like he because of the Jalonens being
jailing like, I don't need the stat pats. I don't
need the I don't need the glitz and glamour show.

(27:21):
And it's not what it's not what I can't we
care about anymore. That's not what I thought we cared about.
But they got to run the football. It's like always shit.
I think that if I had a dollar for every
time I said that, and in twenty seven minutes, wow,
twenty seven and twenty seven and a half minutes, I must,
I would be I'd be able to retire from a
lot of things, because that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
It's a lie.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
You you don't set up anything, man, And then that's
how you bought one to one point lea.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
You can't run the ball ever, can run the ball ever?
And then I got like sweet.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
We were saying, like the biggest play of the game
that nobody really talks about is the Dallas Goddter play
that ends up going for like thirty five yards and
gets called back for a legal shift or motion or
right it was whatever, you know, I mean, one of
those types of penalties that took him down into their
own to Cowboys thirty.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
So you're you're walking away with points in that drive probably.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Okay, that comes all the way back to our thirty
five or forty so drive done. Nobody's overcoming that consistently.
That's the problem. Yeah, but Paul has problems. And listen, Nick,
it's your football team. You know your job to be
be the head of that and clean it up and
all that.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Right, But there's too bad. There's too bad.

Speaker 6 (28:34):
When you take away the penalties.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
I mean, yeah, two turnovers and a missfield goal in
the fourth quarter, that's it.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
So and I just got here, so I apologize, But
I'm not.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Sure what Bill's talking about fourth and fifteen from your
own twenty four Where would you not?

Speaker 6 (28:48):
Where are you saying you can't punt with three minutes ago?
Is that what he said? Then I read that right?

Speaker 7 (28:51):
I just got here, right? Or no, go back to it.
You can't fucking punt the ball with three minutes left.
Where I'm assuming he's saying he doesn't like I know
he doesn't.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Like the third and two call, all right, because he's
not advocating going for it. He's not advocating going for
it on fourth and fourteen.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
So get me the fourth and one or two. I
can't take the sack.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
And I agree with.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Him and absolutely agree with Bill. I can't take the
sack there. That's where the game, that's where I blame Jien.
I don't blame Jen for a lot more because I
thought he had a good game, but he listen, or
a good enough game. I mean, you know, I just
thought he had good reads in the second half and
they were getting called back on penalties on different times.

Speaker 7 (29:35):
I mean yeah, I mean two eighty nine and a touchdown.
I mean a j Brown. He won't hear pete from
him this week.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
So he's happy.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
He's fed. He's fed.

Speaker 7 (29:44):
It's a it's Turkey week, It's it's a happy Thanksgiving.
He's got stuff he needs. Yeah, he's full.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
He don't even need it.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
He's fucking pumpkin pie. He don't need any fucking yams
or nothing money.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
He is fucking good.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
He is video game early Like, how many can we
get him? Like he stabbed at him in a game.
You know, it makes his numbers look look look better.
But yeah, I mean, listen, this.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Is that that penalty on the Goddard play that was
the first drive in the second half. Yeah, twenty one seven, yep,
it was uh past the Goddard pushed out bounds at
the Dallas forty for twenty yards or the twenty yard
pickup Dallas five yard penalty pushed it back to our

(30:31):
forty for legal formation.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
All right, so yeah, forty yards, I'm sorry, forty to
forty though.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, the twenty year.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Obviously had twenty yard twenty five yard wiped it out
and then you went incomplete, incomplete punt, no right place.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
So no, man, I don't think he should in compleat passes,
but makes sense more you went, there's more.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Of those drives six place put three plays.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
And there's more of those drives though, there's more those
penalty stricken drives. Yeah, but again there was another first
down to diet Dallas that was taking a bag by DeVante.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Then yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
The missfield goal drive you got a ten yard penalty
on DeVante Smith. That was that offensive. That's it that Ye,
Goddard's out at the Dallas thirty five.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Forty six yard field goal. He ain't missing it, right,
And then the.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Play afterwards you get the again, now this is the
start the fourth quarter, right, just can't drive that game.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
As a fifty six yard anyway. But yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Then you have the uh, the false start from a
j and then incomplete you had the half pack, you
had a thirteen yard seven yard pass and then missfield goal,
and then you went fumble punt with your two with
your two other places you're.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Just fumble punt and then then then fumble where.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
You may get to down downs field goal.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, and then you would stand the the fumble by
the punt return. That's why we don't talk about.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
It, because the defense stands at right and then get
off the field there somehow and Dallas is stupid and
we luck out. But then you're now you're backed in,
right now, you're backed in. But I can't blame the
defense for this game.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
We're talking about.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
This is this is I mean, how many times?

Speaker 7 (32:10):
How many times are they're going to carry it? I mean,
you know, whether you're you know, you're pissed about it.
You know, hand one or two penalties and I understand
your your your complaints, but I mean fourteen total. That's
you shot yourself in the front. It's awful. So and
you can't turn the football over, you can't feel the
punt on the one fucking yard line.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
That's it. I mean, I don't know what else.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
To tell you. Yeah, the game, which is amazing.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
They went they went another guy that you get fired.
I mean, he went for it on the one.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
The Eagles hadn't scored in a couple of quarters and
and this guy's opting to go for it on the one.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
So yeah, I mean you totally got bailed out from that.
But I mean the defense.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Defense, they've been.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
There all fucking year and they'll they'll be there the
rest of the year, right, So they're fine. I mean,
that's a good offense that you expect to give some
points up. You know, Ben don't break, you know what
I mean. So you know, uh, they stripped fergushead. It
just it happened to go out of bounce. I mean,
that's if that thing kicks back, that thing kicks back,
you know what I mean, we might be talking about

(33:21):
a w you know what I mean. So again, Uh,
everything is peaches and cream when you're winning. You know,
this offense has been who it's been the whole year.
So the defense has bailed them out. They've done enough
on offense.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
We talk about winning it really all that matters, all right.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
So there's a certain guy in Cleveland that you know,
commented on Tommy A. Couple of days ago, and it
said that the quarterback position isn't measured on wins and losses.
You're an absolute warn all right, come on, Joe, I
know you don't watch our show, but if Tom Brady
won one super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Is he to go?

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Is he to go?

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Your regular guy to data? Is model doesn't even have
a supermodel, right, So he's like, who the fuck is
this guy?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Guy with a mullet.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
Guys with a fucking mullet. Come on, they're looking a
good looking guy, you know, a little bit of a mullet.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
That's it?

Speaker 6 (34:12):
What seven super Bowls?

Speaker 7 (34:13):
That's why he's the goat the fucking courses about wins
it you know, when it is the position is fucking
based on winning, right, that's all Yellen does. That's all
Jalen does. So give the guy credit and he can play.
You know, listen, it's not like he's you know, some
you know, some stiff back there. He can play, you know,
you know, you don't expect him to win a game
with his arm, right, And that's why they need to

(34:35):
be well balanced. And then they're not running the show them.
This running game is a shell of itself from last year.
And you don't expect to repeat. You didn't expect to
repeat from a two day right, But all you know,
Stalin didn't just forget how to coach.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
You know what I mean? And I know Lane's down.
They got to be good. They can run. They can yeah,
they can still.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Keep You keep twenty fifth in rush average. It's not
about saving jailing. It's not about it's a rush game
being complimentary to you being able to throw the first
it's got a complimentary. That's not a complimentary. That's downright
egregious for the amount of money that's spent in those areas.
The running back being won, and then the offensive line. Now,

(35:19):
you have been on a couple of weeks, and we
have been on a couple weeks to really talk about it.
Now we've been on Wednesdays, right, And on Wednesdays they
say the same thing. You're like, dude, when you rush
for that many yards and that many touches, you're going
to have it down year. The next year You're just
going to like every running back in the history of
running backs had a down one now to this level, no,
but then you average.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Then you add in an offensive.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Line that's played together fully healthy one time one time like,
that's not enough, right, that's not enough time to get
a continuity and go.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
So you add all these things in and it's why
you're not.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Look at the other running backs who've gotten touches here,
they're averaging four and a half plus yards a carry.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Now, I'm not taking it all one. Yeah, I'm not
telling you that any of those backs are better than
Sakwa Barkley.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
No, what I'm saying is this is the perfect time,
the perfect year to come in. You would be smart
enough to say, you know what, we gonna we gotta
change of paces with him this year.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, this year's changing pace with him.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
There's no reason that you know, you weren't the Eagles
weren't down twenty one nothing, So there's no reason for
Jalen Hursts to throw the ball thirty nine times.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Right, you know, sak it should be the opposite shake,
you know, twenty one.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Back to the same old ages you built on.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Nothing tis twenty one nothing?

Speaker 7 (36:31):
You know, saquad should have twenty five carries, right, you know,
I know the average doesn't look cute right there, but
you put in this belly, you know, fifteen more times?
Who the hell knows? I don't know, right, we'll never know.
But there's no reason in the twenty one nothing game.
You know at one point that that Jalen's got thirty
nine tempts, you know, I mean, come on.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well, that's why it goes back to real quick your
spot on. But then but then it's deeper than that.
It goes back to the fact that the fourteen goddam
penalties that most of them came in the second half,
that drove these drives backwards, right, that four sevenutes throwing
the football. More so, then it compounds itself. So one,
you can't run the football to begin with. Two, now

(37:14):
you're forced to throw the football because these penalties are
consistently putting you back ten yards ten yard holding ten
yard heads in the face right, and now you're behind
the sticks. So now you feel like you have to
throw because you can't run your spot on though, it
should never be a situation where a great running game
or a good running game.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Close not enough possessions.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
There are not enough possessions for the Cowboys to rally
if you're taking care of the football.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
This was said.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
This was said five thousand times in the first twenty
seven minutes for the show, just for you to know,
because we're all on the same page here is this
is it's ridiculous, But it's ridiculous that the penalties then
dictate you having to throw the ball ten more times
than you want to in the second half.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
There's the ten garrys, the den penalty, or the ten carries.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
In my opinion, how I just common sense it because
you're constantly playing behind the sticks. Like I don't even
know how to compare it in baseball term.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
It doesn't even matter.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
What matters is is that when you're when you're constantly
you get a first down or you get a good
play and that's a ten yeard penalty coming back. Right,
you're constantly playing like that the whole season, because they
have the entire season. Now, is that on the offensive
coordinator umbertout? Or is that on players? Focus?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Right? Is that on discipline? What is that on?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I think it's a combination of everybody when you want
to talk about those things. But lining up the wrong
way is on the player to me, and on focus. Okay,
fall starts are always on players. To me, all starts
is on focus discipline players. So these aren't like and
hands in the face, which was a borderline one on
Fred Johnson, could heven with the chin, but still the

(38:51):
net goes up, it's gonna get caught.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Oh so it doesn't. It doesn't matter, just saying.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Like where you get a guy, if you get a
guy anywhere in the neck area, it's gonna get caught
because the chin's gonna go up and and it's over.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
It's hands in the face and the hand's gonna slide
upwards and good night.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
But my point is you're constantly getting hit with all
this shit because it's self inflicted. That's on the player,
that's not on coaching, right, So I think when you
add that in and I said, the only the only
referee issue is the game's twenty one seven, and they
made they made sure that game got the twenty one
to fourteen. That's my biggest issue with the official in

(39:29):
today and around the whole leg too, because you watch
it happen around the whole leg is they wanted that
game to be closer, so they freaking the Cooper dejen
Pi is a joke. That's a p I owned that.
That's my only complaint of the day. That's the cd PI.
He's literally hands in the faith we just talked about
hands in the face. He sniffed arm his faith mass
before the ball got there. Now you can talk about

(39:50):
arm arm fighting, then it's a no call. Then don't
call the PI on him. Well he's the one getting
stiffed armed like the guy's running with the football. So
this is where I can you can sniff out that.
You know, they might wanted to shift a little bit.
But again, it's not why you lost the football game.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
No, yeah, and I should, I say, And that's why
I think it, And that's what I said to you earlier.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
I mean, it evils it evens.

Speaker 7 (40:15):
It evils out, you know, it evens excuse me, you
know it's it doesn't feel good.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
It sucks.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
Nobody wants to get fucking railroaded. But you know, last week,
we don't know how last week ended. Now we don't
We don't know how last week would have been, right,
you know, if if that guy doesn't throw a flight,
you know, I mean, there's a there's a minute forty
five last week. Now, defense was dominant. Golf stinks. I
think we know the outcome, you know what I mean.
But they had got the football back, you know, so

(40:42):
you know it is it is what it is. You
know what I mean, Like I said, it's just players
play coaches, coach. You know, referees are going to be
They're gonna do their thing, and you try to try
to overcome it, you know what I mean. You kind
of got a break early in early in the game
on the on the roughing the punt too.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
So yeah, but that's a wunchable call though, So.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
If oh again, I'm not, you know, bailed out shot
of talking more. We already know well documented. You know
he got he got a job because of that.

Speaker 7 (41:10):
But nine officials gotta talk real quick, real quick.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
The second guy should have got then then then roughing
the punt, the second guy hands in the face. It
was hands in the face and it slammed down. So
I wasn't even the first guy didn't think it was
gonna get called on. I thought it was getting cald
on the second guy because that actually was by definition,
we're gonna get Yeah, it's a guy.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, it's like the NBA be careful that guy.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
Yeah he hit the plant leg. That guy hit the
plant leg. So I'm the problem with the initial call.

Speaker 7 (41:39):
I don't have a problems initial call with that, but
I see him in Williamstown I could see that it
was deflected in Williamstown.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
You know, well you.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Heard the crowd told you to mean that a little tip,
a little little peace.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
But I was wondering if it was to a good
good information by Waffles over there too, because I was
I said to myself, I was wondering if you know,
I didn't think they were as bad as MLB, where
you can't challenge you know, a ball before the bag
and certain things and blah blah blah. You know, so
I didn't know what that you know what that you
know what the region was on that.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
At least according to Captain Dean Blandino, know you, they
could have challenged that.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I wish it was like an NBA challenge though, like
you go challenge and be careful what you challenge because
you might find something else. That's why I said, the
other guy the other guy got that should have been
roughing the punter on him anyway, because he went hands
straight to the face and forcible contact of the ground
when that punt's already already off and he's in a
vulnerable position, right, and that's sort of rough and the

(42:40):
punter is correct.

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Or now when the guy got up, you mean no.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Like when the punter after the first guy make contact
and he spun off the second guy, if you got
I think guy touched that what I mean, yeah, yeah,
the first guy, the first guy isn't a penalty to
said guys is little to the had her neck ra
is my point.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
That's where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
So if it's the NBA, you might maybe that's why
they didn't review it, because they're like, well, they're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
This part of it right. Maybe they missed the first
part for the second part they would have got. I
don't know, but either way, this isn't.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
That broader point though, Tommy, you heard the shift in
the broadcast too. Once the Cowboys started coming back right
the first half of the broadcast, every time they came
back from a commercial, it was, oh, they kept they
zoomed in to find the to find the tip, right,
they zoomed in to find the tip. And then when
they had the false start with Dallas with the goal line,
they came back from commercial with I think the Eagles

(43:42):
were trying to draw them off sides, and it just
felt like earlier to broadcast anything the Eagles did. They
had a they had a reason why. It was against
the Cowboys, right.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
They were screwing the cow and then they came.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
Back and Fox and Brian Anderson I think he creamed
when when h on that long pass and too.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I think, yeah, well the national media is driven the
like then for some reason.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
But yeah, I mean they made excuses for them early.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
They're coming off a Monday night win, like, so did we,
Like we came up on Monday night win then then
went played a Sunday night game and won that, right,
so I got nobody nobody was crowning us last Sunday
for all.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
This was a short week for the Eagles. I didn't
hear one time on the broadcast. I don't know if
I heard it one time, but I don't. I don't.
I'm not asking for it.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
But I love how Cowboys like the four and five
and one team, the four to five and one team
is getting excuses, like not at all the guy the
team that trade their best player a game into the season,
that that team that's that team's getting excuses. Okay, they're
getting bailed out. Yeah, got gotta guys, but yeah, we again,

(44:53):
we just have to close isn't closed out?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Game?

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Is inexcusable loss? You know, I didn't yell and scream
like that kind of off early, but but it is,
I mean it eight and three. I don't want to
come flipping out too much. But like I said that,
I said to Atlanta, I said, losses really don't bother
me anymore. As much as we haven't lost a lot,
But when it does happen, they don't don't bother me.
It's an avid flow. Leg it happens, right, But this one,

(45:20):
this one was a piss off. Yeah, because who is against,
who is against, and how it happened, how it happened.
Context matters though, Like if you lose this game twenty
four to twenty one, but you're down, but you're down
twenty one.

Speaker 7 (45:35):
Nothing great context Absolutely, Yeah, it happened twenty one point lead.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
When you lost time in history, that counts an Eagles issue.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
It counts like three losses.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
So twenty one nothing against the Cowboys, it feels like
it should count as three losses, you know. So that's
you know, that's the so that's part of the it's
in the blender, you know, twenty one nothing lead against
the Boys, that's in the blender. And the fact that
this offense hasn't looked right all year, so eight and
three defense is elite. You feel that, you don't, you

(46:12):
don't feel that great about yourself, you know, from a
from an offensive standpoint, you know, and so you're gonna
have but around the league, you look at it around
the league.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
You know, obviously the Lions went to overtime.

Speaker 7 (46:22):
You know, he just he feels like every team builds
lose on Thursday night, you know. So it feels like
it happens everywhere, but Philly. You know, so you know,
you don't, you don't you know, step back and say, oh,
well we were due for one. You know, you don't,
you don't want to do that, but you also say, listen,
it happens everywhere, just doesn't seem to happen.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
It doesn't seem to happen here.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
So you feel like you're a little bit spoiled in
that sense, you know, you know, because winnings hard, you know,
so you see people stumbing their toe all the time.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
But well, like you said, how I like you know
what you said was.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Was spot on.

Speaker 7 (46:58):
The context makes it more than a scheduled boss in
my eyes, you know what I mean, because you know
they can't run the football.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
You know, they don't know, you know, they don't. They
don't look good.

Speaker 7 (47:07):
They don't, they don't look and sync obviously, you know
the penalties.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
We were we were horrible.

Speaker 7 (47:12):
But and everybody's you know, wants to throw Batulo off
the off the Ben frankl Bridge, and and I understand that,
but it's like somebody in that building has to get
on the same page, you know.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
I mean, like, you know, Nick's an offensive guy.

Speaker 7 (47:28):
I don't know, you know, I don't know how you know,
they have meetings every Sunday.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
They talk about it.

Speaker 7 (47:33):
They talked about having meetings. Well, I know, I'm just
saying my trade he is. You know, it's the same thing. Yeah,
I think my trade he is. I mean it was
you know, he he showed up with his with his
plumbing kid to fix my toilet. You know, I mean,
I qualify if he's qualified or not. He brought a
fucking plunger.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
But I know what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
But uh, you.

Speaker 7 (47:56):
Know, something's you know, something's amiss in the on the
offensive side.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
So the easiest thing to.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Do is it's.

Speaker 7 (48:04):
Pointed, you know, point at the offensive corner every year
when something happens.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
And and I just I feel like you know, I've
always said players play. I understand it.

Speaker 7 (48:15):
You know, this football is different than other sports because
it's scheme on scheme, it's it's it's a scheme leg
I get it.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
You know, it's x's and o's. I get it. But
at the end of the day, find a way to
make plays. Man, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
You know, we always talk about run blocking is what
these guys want. So you don't have Lane Johnson, I
get it, But the other guys are all capable Stouton's
he didn't forget how to coach, you know, So that's
what you like to do, is run blocks. So get
your hands on somebody, and you don't have to be
Lane Johnson. You don't have to be you know, running
for nine yards a clip like you did last year.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
All right, but you could run the football.

Speaker 7 (48:49):
You know, there's no reason Saquon can't run the ball
for sixty seventy yards a game.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah, like this guy. This guy's wearing full full UNI
Brian Washington.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
It was crying about the reps, Ryan, So I mean
real quick, you know, just to be clear, no one
time was there a cry about the rest. I'm saying
that when I brought the rest, I say, around the
entire lake. And if you can't, if you couldn't see
that was a scheduled a schedule. Let's get the Cowboys
down to the five. We're down to the ten on
that one drive. Then you just don't watch the league enough,

(49:19):
that's all. If you think that's just because it's Eagles.
Eagles get those same things sometimes, right, So if you
think that's just what I was saying, and then get
a cloat all right, and enjoy not.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Making the playoffs again.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Uh, and Mike park different Mike Parker, But Mike Parker falls.
It falls on the head coach due can't call play
so offense has a new play car every single year.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
But I don't.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I can't agree with that. Yeah, Like what does that mean? Like,
like that's not why we have a new coordinator. We
have a new coordinator because these guys either either get
fired or to get hired, right, Psyching got hired. Okay, Yeah,
so I mean another guy.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
Sorry, No, when you're good, When you're good and you
win the Super Bowl, everybody comes your guys, you know
what I mean, whether they're gonna be he whether they're
gonna be good head coaches or not. You know, striking
has turned out to be a good one.

Speaker 6 (50:11):
But you know who knows. You know, that's just that's
the nature of the Beast.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
Somebody said earlier, no more, no more new offensive coordinators. Sorry, well,
we can't control that when we're good and you get
the bottom of the barrel when you went when you
get to the super Bowl, because you don't have time
to hire anybody just the way it works, and we're
not firing Pat.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
I'm sorry to Tucker. Can you just break on please, Rams,
Can you take a playoff?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
No, and you can't and you can't you can't. You're
not gonna fire him this part of the season. I
don't think that's No think that's the right decision either.

Speaker 7 (50:49):
But it doesn't mean you can't somebody you can't. But yeah,
but doesn't mean you can't take it away from them.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
You know what I mean. We're not using exactly, and
we're not I'm not.

Speaker 7 (51:02):
Using you know, captain you know captain fourth down as
as an example, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (51:06):
But you can do it.

Speaker 7 (51:07):
You can you can strip the play calling and you
can still be in the building and he can still
be an integral part if you air quote one of
you know of your offensive scheme and in their meetings
and stuff.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
But you can definitely take the play calling away, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
So oh yeah, absolutely can and or you could or
you can mix that up right and that and that's
where I get.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I get in the way.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
That's like, you know what, you stuggle like that in
the third quarter, like go go somebody else take it over. Yeah,
like go jump in their neck, you know what I mean,
go to be in there for a drive there for
a series wherever it may be.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Never done that. No one ever does that in mid game.
I should, I know you state potentially should, but no
one ever does.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I mean I can't say nowhere.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, I mean Andy used to and he used to
talk about like taking it over for a series and
and giving it back.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
So I don't know, maybe nobody nobody does do it.

Speaker 6 (52:02):
But I feel like he always called place now.

Speaker 7 (52:06):
I mean, I feel like he's had that menu since
fucking nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
No, well, he didn't call it at one point with
what's his face in Kansas, diy E forget who it was.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
It might have been.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
I think he gave all of those guys Peterson Naggy
the enemy. I think he gave him to your I
guess you're to your point, right, But I don't think it.
I think those were all designed. It wasn't like, hey,
this isn't working or take it from you.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, I know it was designed, but I know it
was designed, like hey, yeah, you guys called the first
quarter and then nobody on the other side can get
in a rhythm on the play caller. I've always thought
that would be a good idea, Like you know what
I mean, if I'm Nick Sirianni and I'm an offensive mine,
it's like, yo, give me every give me one quarter
every game.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
We'll never keep it the same. Just give me a
quarter every game. Yeah, true, right, you know that's more
lighting than lamb, Like NonStop, give me a quarter every game.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Because now the other side got it's gonna be something,
it's gonna be different.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I don't know. I just feel like these guys can
become predictable.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Yeah yeah, well it always goes back to her. Are
you know our missionary statement?

Speaker 7 (53:12):
You know what I mean, Like we joke about it,
and you know, we say, hey, you gotta flip your
wife over, but we you know we we truly mean that,
you know, I mean like it's like there's no reason
that you know it'd be super about it.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
No.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
I was like, bro, oh yeah, I mean put it
on a T shirt. I mean put her put it
on a T shirt.

Speaker 7 (53:39):
I mean absolutely, but uh yeahs it.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
Goes to this late they they retreads.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
There's this leg's full of retreads and and and you know,
guys never guys never go hungry in this lake. You know,
as coaches, you know that the tree is, the tree
is plentiful. You know, they're they're just afraid to right
to rock the boat sometimes, you know what.

Speaker 6 (54:01):
I mean, unless it's gonna save them. You know.

Speaker 7 (54:04):
So these guys won't rock the boat unless the guy says, hey,
buddy boy, it's you or him, all right? And then
that's when you see the guy cut the guy's head off,
all right. The machete comes out when the you know,
if Lourie said, hey, Nikki boy, it's you were keV.
You see Kev's head right there in the mailbox, right
in the haddimfield right bye bye bye bye.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Real facts there.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yeah, but they have the ninth move, sorry, the ninth
most rush attempts in the league. Right, but again rush average.
I mean, that's that's really what it comes down to.
Garbage tried the run it, but they just can't. It's
so weird. I didn't have that on my Bingo card

(54:54):
for this year.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
He's the offensive line literally went from like best in
in football, best baby of all time to one of
the worst.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Yeah, it's hard, Jack, It's hard having big time players
everywhere on offense. Again, shut out halfs sick it really,
it is hard to do realistically.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Two and a half quarters? Is that touchdown in the yes?
Check early?

Speaker 1 (55:19):
It's the penalties.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
It's the penalties and then equal and then bad drive
or penalties, Right, they get you off the field and
you get out of rhythm and you get out of sync,
and then you go have another bad drive, right, and
then it compounds. It's like it's it's contagious. Hitting is
in baseball. It's the same as drives are in football
or runs in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
You can like you can sort of smell when a
team's on a run. Right, The same thing happens in
all sports, Like it goes through waves. Games go through
waves of ups and downs, right, And can you withstand
the other team's wave. Right, are you able to right
with stand when it's twenty one to seven? You able
to go get another score? Right to that point? Comeing
out of half, Craig, Sure, right, you're able to go
get a score there? Four to seven? That game feels

(56:01):
over to that now, right, it's weird. It's weird right
when it's when it was twenty one seven after they
missed the field goal?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Right, can you go ahead and make it more?

Speaker 6 (56:10):
Unless we talk about it?

Speaker 7 (56:12):
We basically talked about it, you know, and and asked
them all a lot because how the NBA is, But
it really is all sports unless you shut down off offensively,
there's no such thing as a rally, right a team?

Speaker 6 (56:26):
And can't you know the NBA?

Speaker 7 (56:28):
You know, we all say, and I'm not making fun
of anybody in here, but now it's the NBA.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
Everybody goes on a run.

Speaker 7 (56:33):
You can't go on to twenty five, oh run, or
you can't make up twenty two points in the NBA
unless you take a shit on ourfense, right because one
or two layups, a couple of free throws.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
And bye bye all right, bye bye rally. That's it.
The only way to get you know, you know the
only way to turn back from a hole is to
do nothing offensively.

Speaker 7 (56:51):
So you come back from twenty one down because to
your point, you didn't score anything.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
You know, you extend that to twenty seven. That's it.
It's go over.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
We saw at the end of the Giants Lions game.
The Giants kick a field goal there and go up six.
The Lions don't tie that game, and if they do,
they win by one. But you got to make them
score that touchdown. But like, and that's something we talked
about to with this Eagles team is and I think
Noah brought it up on on on Wednesday as well,
Like we're so boom or bust. We're either six, seven,

(57:26):
eight play touchdown drive or three. Now, right, there's none
of those drives that get your field goals anymore. There's
none of those sustained drives that just putter but then
you get it, you know, sputter in the red zone.
But hey, we added three points. We added three points
so many times in those drives, like you said, sweeps,
if you can add a field goal, it keeps putting

(57:46):
them behind the ball even more. It's another possession that
they got to.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Make up, Greg, it's not even it's that. But it's
not even that. It's the Eagles drives. That's six seven
eight drive that the money and come up points. My
point today is if you just had a view that
a drive, you could have drove it down to their
their ten and thrown a goddamn pick. You understand where
you take six seven minutes off the clock, you win today.

(58:13):
I mean at some point in the second half, if
you just have a monster drive that comes away with
nothing like Nick could have got in his own way
and went for.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
It from fourth and five from the five right, and.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
I imagine having Yeah, imagine.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
All years they have not had that drive and he
wins somehow without that drip.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
And hard and the numbers the numbers don't lie.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
But I mean, imagine having a twenty one nothing lead
and the time of possession. I know, I didn't mean
that to be a smartness. The time of possession is
equal is eal? Holy shit, Batman's hard to do. That's
hard to do.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Start to do?

Speaker 6 (58:51):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
I mean you you gift wrapped today and you showed
that today was good for me personally as a fan,
and then coming on here every week because I've really
been trying to die sect what their biggest problem was,
and and I guess part of me just didn't want
to maybe admit that it was it was a running game.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
And the penalties.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
But I think today finally, like at least me, now
I can go when these idiots want to talk about,
oh it's it's sham, when it's aj it's the passing game. Well,
now I can actually go to these people and be like,
you guys are actually incredibly wrong, Like you guys couldn't
be more wrong. Like today showed when you lose a
game like this the way they lost it. It showed
what really the glaring weaknesses are, because when you can't

(59:32):
run it, nothing else works consistently.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Drives on't sustained like drive On sustained. They're just not.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
It's not any predictability at this point, Like he either
dances too much or guys are blowing up three yards
in the backfield. So I it's it's been soutling community
college this year.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
It's definitely not.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
University lost the credit credit, lost some credits, yeah, the increditation.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I lost thirty two credits here. But you know, love
the guy, but you can't it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Him and he doesn't play right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I mean these guys, like I said, the inconsistency, the
rotating door of who plays each week, right, the amount
of different rotations you've had play next to each other,
all those, all those equal to not being able to
run the bill.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Now, if you could just run the ball instead of three.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
I think SU's at three to seven yards of character points,
seven yards carrier, and he was just and he was
just that four yards of carc if saqua is that
four yards to carry with bare minimum? Right, bare minimum?
This running game just looks back. So you know, I
don't know. I mean, yeah, no points and in the

(01:00:50):
final forty one minutes, I just don't know how you
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
But now I do know how you do that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
When you can't run it and you're constantly getting costly penalties.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
This is why.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
And if you're just joining us, that big play is
coming out of half Dallas gotter. The twenty yard reception
takes us into their forty. We were at our four,
we're at whatever long story short. The penalty thinks back
to r forty. Okay, now you're playing be on the stags.
That's a chance to go up twenty four to seven.
Coming out of half, you're feeling better about yourself. Minimum

(01:01:22):
twenty four to seven, and that drives saws and now
it's twenty now twenty one to fourteen, right, and there's
a difference of there's a little difference of a football
game right there on a costly penalty because you're not
lined up right right the little shit, yeh, little shit,
you're not lined up right and you blow a good
play call. That's where it's like, how do I put

(01:01:43):
that play call on Patol? That's a good play call?
The Devonte Smith Now Devonte Smith once agreed just because
that wasn't a penalty on Deavonte, But even that, like
that penalty, how do I put.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
That on a tool?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
That's a good play callw scutters wide open?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
So you know, how do I put a saque?

Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
Then?

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
Yeah, you know, well that's a drive where you're definitely
getting points, you know what I mean, Like if he
doesn't put that on the carpet, you should you know
you're most likely getting three there, you know, I mean,
so that's a that's a huge turnover. You know, it's
it's first Fambo and east human right. But you know,
like I said, I think today.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
Was the perfect storm of horseship, you.

Speaker 7 (01:02:25):
Know what I mean, Like, you know, it really was
you know, whether you know you could throw it all
in the blender, you know, coaching, running game, you know, you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Know, penalties, referees, turnovers.

Speaker 7 (01:02:39):
Decisions, you know. I mean, it's just it's a you know,
it's the giant blender. Uh for for a loss, that's
a giant loss. And that's I mean giant blender that
leads to a loss, you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
So and that's you know, so we'll see how they
respond on a short week. It's it's a it's a
good beer. It's a good Bears team, you know. I mean,
I'm not crowded. I'm saying, uh, you know, or saying
they're going to the super Bowl or anything like that.
But obviously Ben's made a difference, and uh it's you know,
this is a pretty good team.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
But you know, get back and get back home and
we'll see what.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I said that the Greg earlier. It's a good football
team coming in. Yeah, they're much improved. So it's a
good task to show your response, is my point of it.
And you come home and you take care of business
at home on a short week. You give yourself a
little breather here and maybe you can clean some stuff
up on another a little extended rest.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
But it was like it's just an it's a monster games.
It was just win. But this is must win. Talk
to me like it was.

Speaker 6 (01:03:43):
Just all I said.

Speaker 7 (01:03:44):
There were so many plays. It was just a comedy
of errors, you know what I mean, Like on.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
The pickings play, like.

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
You know, Alcatraz Island got picked hit by his own guy, you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
Know what I mean, Like he got he got picked
by his own guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
You know, Yeah, what happens if he doesn't right, I mean,
still be caught. But but maybe he's not running, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
But no, to me, I hate saying must wins when
you're eight and three, right because they're gonna be a
playoff team regardless in my opinion. But this is this
is a must it's a must win to me, just
to show where for all the twenty twenty three people
out there that are like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Oh, this is twenty twenty three all over again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Here we go, right, like, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna,
we're gonna, you know, we're gonna crumble after attend to
one star. That's where I need to win at just
to just to hush shout out right, just so it
doesn't turn into a collapse, right, because wins cure, even
though the media doesn't want to let it cure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
It cures. So there's nothing better, that's nothing better.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
That's all. That's all they've done.

Speaker 7 (01:04:47):
And you know with this, you know, with this uh,
with this tenure, you know what I mean, that's all
they've done. So that's all they.

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
Know how to do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
And he's got to get back to that. On product.

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
Eagles are minus seven in case you guys didn't talk.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Wow, their minus seven. Jesus, I'm gonna give an early
score prediction right here. Then if they're minus seven, I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go thirty one. I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Thirty one seventeen Eagles. Then if they're minus seven.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
There mind seven, that's that's that's that's that's a ton
to me. I mean, I don't know what they know, right, Maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
They just know that they haven't really I mean, they
have wins, right, but they haven't beaten anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
No. Seven is a lot when when you're eight and
three as well. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, get the same record.
They're coming in here. But yeah, all right, I mean
I'm down.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I love it. I'll be I love this seven.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
And you know, maybe it's maybe it's telling, maybe it's not,
but maybe we could actually go go roll, go roll somebody. Yeah,
I don't even care. I mean, I'll take a twenty
four to twenty one win, right, but you know we're
taking a twenty four to twenty one win.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Today as well. Okay, so I'm not. I'm not. I'm
an easy guy to please, you know, ask her about her, yeah,
ask her about it, very very easy. Gotta please over here.
So just win, baby, just win.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
But it would be nice to just go beat somebody
up though, right, it would be. I thought we were
getting that today and I was excited by it. I
was like, this is good, this is what we need,
is what we've been waiting for. Right that first quarter
is like everything Jalen does when people hate on him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
But then it stopped, right, and it can't can't stop.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
It can't it can't stop.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
It can't stop, won't stop, can't stop, won't stop. So
I'm gonna say, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
I'm gonna already go out on a little early prediction
thirty one thirty one seventeen because I think it's just
a defense. Also translates to cold weather games and what
they do and turn it over, you know, And I

(01:06:58):
think you just you need it because you really, you
know the way you play at the link and you
don't want to travel on the postseason rather keep everything here, right,
I mean, the one place I will go is l
A because we've always played well there, right, so it's
not to me. It's not a place that we've had
so hors at or anything like that. So I don't
mind going there. But preferably, I would like everything to

(01:07:20):
run through Philadelphia. So let's let's find the way for that.
And you know that starts with that, starts with Friday
Friday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
As you get that win, I think you're you're you're
in You're in good shape.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
You got that Bills games, the big the big game
after the big game. That in that whole mech Sat
is a game you might not be favored in, right,
the rest of them, you're all you're all gonna be.
You're gonna be favoring every one of them.

Speaker 8 (01:07:53):
That's jam actually, yes, potential.

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Stadium against.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
That's the projection right now. Previous cat where are you ever?
Where have you seen that chip Telly to Penn State. No,
stop it. I'm just trying not to get Terry Smith
the Penn State.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
Uh uh, I still can't believe.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
Aaron Donald retired and straight face, straight face and said, yeah,
I don't need to do anymore. Like no championships a monster,
I guess. I guess though, when you're that good and
like get that good at something, you're like, yeah, I

(01:08:56):
don't even need a championship to to determine how good I.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Am, especially at that position. Just getting beat up.

Speaker 9 (01:09:05):
Well, he's got he got one. You met, you got
one that you were talking about multiple so so happy
Stafford got one.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
Absolutely comp Well, they're they're clearly the wagon. They're clearly
the wagon right now. So you know, if the Eagles
are looking for, you know, to get that chip back
on their shoulder, you know, now's the time, you know,
because there's your you know, there's your there's your there's

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your hunter, there's your bull's eye right there on Sunday
night football in my eyes, you know what I mean.
I said it earlier, so even before the loss, you know,
I mean, this is a Eagles rams final. You know,
if you clean things up and you do you know,
do what you want to do, So don't have.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
To be scared.

Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
You don't have to you know, you know, it's truly
whatever however you want.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
To I however you want to feel as a fan.
But they're pretty damn good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Yeah, they're good. It came down yea.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Yeah, well it took a tremendous play this year, well
two years in a row, two great plays. Yeah, you know,
I mean, and you know, I'm not scared of him
cause we beat them twice. I'm not scared of him
until they had to lead and there's a minute left
and we get the ball back right then.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Then that's why that's what I'm officially scared. Yeah, right,
I'm not scared anybody. Uni.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
They got to lead on us, and I'm like, we're
gonna lose this game. Wait again, they're a really good team.
We know what Maddie is so, but I mean again,
it starts with us not not going and losing two
in a row and just getting yeah, get back, get
back in the winning ways and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Find a way to find a way to win.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
A game Friday, yep, short week, back and back in
the back in the lab tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Jalen also said we weren't going to lose another game too,
So shit happens and things change, right, But you can't
go up twenty four unanswered points in a football game ever,
So we're gonna find out Friday. And why I called
them must win is how you know what what what
is the twenty twenty five Eagles. Are they as resilient

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as as the twenty twenty four Eagles, right?

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Or are they.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
More in between twenty twenty four and twenty twenty three right,
where Yeah, they're resilient, but they're.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Not as resilient. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
They're not gonna go lose five in a row, right,
makes sense, But you know they can go lose two
in a row. Right, But we've we've seen these responses
from that. There's a football team that's beaten a prekod
football team, there is, I mean, they can't see it ahead.
They beat Tampa, but Tampa was fully healthy in Tampa. Right,

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they beat the Lions, they beat the Packers.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
There's nothing hollow about this team.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
So I mean they got wins for days from an.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Outsider, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:11:57):
Like I said, you know, I think you know people
you know people like to you know, there's listen, there's
a lot of peacock and going and listen, you.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
Should have confidence, you should have swagger.

Speaker 7 (01:12:09):
Because you know, it's all they do is win, all right,
So there's nothing there's nothing wrong with that, you know,
bravado and that you know, that's what it's what makes
you great, you know what I mean. So you know
some you know, some people are a little you know,
worse about it than others, all right, but you know,
make no mistake about it. This is a tremendous organization.
And this is still a tremendous team with a ton

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of weapons and an elite defense. So you know, if
you want to throw dirt on him, go ahead, you
know what I mean. Like, today's unacceptable, today's embarrassing, all right,
but the sun will come up tomorrow, you know, unless
you live in Seattle and uh, you know, get back
at it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
We're here some weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Yeah, yeah, either or but yeah, I mean it'll be
it'll be up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
And you're right, they're they're good. So it's just about
them respond the next week.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
It's about them, you know, putting together four quarters again,
which doesn't even mean you gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Score all four quarters or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Happens to go play four good, four core, four good
quarters of football and get out of the win right
and get the nine and three and sort of be
able to dictate, dictate what where you stand in the
NFC by the end of it, right, you know, if
you want that one seeds important And at nine and three,

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you know you're right, You're all you are is a
Rams loss away right to get it because you have
the tiebreaker.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Yeah, and they got Lions left, they got Seattle left.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Yeah, they got they played good teams. I mean, this
was a big one for the Rams and night.

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
Yeah that's and really at the end of the day,
that's just for your own psyche. And so you can
sleep in your.

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
Own bed and everybody wants a home game, you know
for uh you know, so the link can be rocking,
but that doesn't infect the Rams, all right, So that
doesn't again, doesn't make you scared, doesn't make it you know,
an underdog. It just means they showed that they can
come in here and play well you know what I mean.
So but they came all right with two l's, so
you know, uh, they didn't come in here and win,

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but they came in here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
And played well, well, they might get those wins at home, right,
so maybe of.

Speaker 7 (01:14:19):
Course you would rather have a yeah, yeah, maybe with
that you know, when you're playing that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
No, because you put because they play, we played well.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
Travels for them, and and that Matt's a veteran.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
And defense travels for us, right a problem?

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Yeah, of course that game, that game can be played
anywhere for me, Like, to me, the one or two
seed isn't that important, but the one seed is more
important because of the first round by less games, you
gotta play the better, right, So to me, it's not
even a valid if the one of two seeds like
old days, got the buys. I don't care if I
have one or two. Just give me one of them,
but not only the number one seed gets to buy.

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That's the killer. That's why you're fighting for it because
one last game you can you can callify up Bill.

Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
You might have went and took a piss Bill. You know,
I said the Rams are a wagon, So I'm an outsider,
you know what I mean. It doesn't mean these two
guys have to agree or or be scared, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
But you know, yeah, I don't know if they're better
than us, right, now anyway, Bill, because we just beat
them and it wasn't even that long ago.

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
So I mean, like I think they are, but I
don't think.

Speaker 7 (01:15:21):
I don't think it's one tier two tier, but I
you know, I think right right now they're better. I
think they're a better football team. But the Eagles meet them.
So at the end of the day, all you can
say is, you know when we played who won?

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah, and we played twice and less way less than
a year two, Bill, So I mean, I know the
way it looks right now, Yeah, like the way it
looks right now. Yeah, we've beat them three times in
rout and the way it looks right now, yeah, they're better.
But sometimes you have team's numbers for whatever reason. So
you know, I hear you not a team I want
to play. I would love again to get the one seed.

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So they have two opportunities of somebody knocking them out right,
and you're getting somebody besides them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
That's the whole reason.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
It's like you would want us to have the number
two seed because now we got to play a wildcard
game and a divisional game. We just don't get the
divisional NFC title game. That's a difference maker. To me
where you can get that the other best team in
the conference knockdown early, right, and sort of gives that
one seed a little bit more of an advantage than

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ever before in my opinion, because the one and two
seed always had an advantage back in the day, right
or now or now? Only the only guy who gets
an advantage is the one seed. How many one seeds
have gone to the Super Bowl since they since they.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Have rolled out that owing the one only number one?
He gets?

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
Buy?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
I love him a percentage of that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
It's, you know, instant conversation for another day, right, but
just just a curious cat if it plays out better
for teams or if it you know, or if it's
been like a fifty to fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
I was sure more go to it more, at least
end up in the title game. I'm only having to
get one win.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Yeah, there's always like it's a big difference when you're like, oh,
fifty fifty chance a win to get to an NFC
title game we won, Okay, fifty to fifty chance to
get to a super Bowl. Then fifty fifty chance to
get to a divisional round game. You know, your fifty
to fifty chances of winning you know, go less than

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fifty to fifty when you play more games. I don't know,
not a math guy, just yeah, stayed a couple of
our ends road tripped. I don't know if anybody's okay,
previous cat no if. I don't know if Jones is okay.
I don't know if mccooba's okay. I don't know if

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Reid's okay. Yeah, I'm not sure if anybody's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
May The second.

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
Half wasn't good for that either. Not only were we
were we are sinking ship defensively or and or and offensively,
but we lost. We lost a lot of guys on defense.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
The one deal was we're okay, Jesse.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Yeah, I mean, I'm that's saying the rate like you're
gonna act like the Rams are gonna win out too.
I'm not saying we're gonna win out, but like assuming
like everybody's winning out and like yeah, listen, I hear you,
Hey yah said we did that stuff slip away.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
I mean, yeah, we definitely let let the game go.
I'm not doubting that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
But m.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Well, Jesse, I would have never let c J out
the door. But that's not that's not for me to
argue anymore. We're reading reading mccooba playing well, so I'm
okay with it. Now they're both heard now mccoober worse
because mccooba looked like it was an ankle high ankle
spring a little bit, Yeah, high ankle piece. That's four

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weeks now. What positive news out of all day is
Lane knocking any surgery on the list, frank so, But
I still wasn't expecting to see Lane until whatever first
round playoff game it is, right, Yeah, I wouldn't put
Lane back out there for the regular season if if

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it's me, I just would not. I would not unless
we'll be coming like desperation mode, must win type stuff,
right like the last two or three games.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
But yeah, so that's good news in a in an
ugly day, an injury definitely pile one up for sure,
A little bit on the defense side of the football,
not idea on the secondary. Like I said, see and
I said, Coop doesn't look as good playing the outside
he does the inside.

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
I think that's an off season.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
See, that's where an off season comes in, man like
of like training the play out there, like studying film
to play out there, like it's different and you're covering
different you're covering, you're covering more boundary, like you're covering
more space. It's weird. We're in the slot, you're covering
more space, I feel like, but you're you're not covering
the same routes. Makes sense, it's different route trees being

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run from an outside guy to an inside guy. So
to me, like, again, today's a tough, a tough game
that to talk a lot about because it's two damn
good wide outs out there. But I still think like
it's the guy's best slack corner in football.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
You know, it's not ideal of having to move them,
that's all.

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
No, it makes you makes you understand why they don't
want to move him either.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Yeah, you know, because.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
You're in the on the outside, you're gonna face more
of those those one on one balls that pickings just
is really good at. Right, that might be better at
Like you said, Tom, if you had an all season
train and and where getting his head around right in
the slot. You're not worried about trying to find a
ball and play the ball. You're just trying to play
the man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
I love this. I love this, Jesse, I love you better.
This is the same defense to play in the Zone
Lands Super Bowl. I don't know if you guys thought
that game was played out do or somewhere or or
where exactly you thought that game was played at. But
don't please, don't tell me that this this defense isn't
the same. Yeah, in the same and the dome, the

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whole goddamn somebody's backyard. This defense could play anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
I think any defense plays better in freezing temperatures, Like
every defense ever to play should play bare in freezing temperatures,
because it's hard to play offense in freezing temperatures. It's
hard to go to football as well in twenty four
hour wing guts.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
It is that it is in.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
A dome, right, so you get the benefits of you know,
bad weather on the defense side of the football, right
when you're a great defense. But don't tell me great
defenses can't travel in the dome. It'd be great too,
you know, I don't know. I think that's I think
if we didn't just shut down Kansas City and a dome.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
For a Super Bowl win, maybe we would have to.
We'd be able to hang our hat.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
On that one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Oh my god, Yeah, this is weading three really great?

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Did find it interesting though that it looked like and
again maybe there was some miscalls, but we didn't get
as much pressure on back today as we had the
last two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Oh Jalhen Phillips wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
Films was not existing today.

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
That's good today.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Trade.

Speaker 5 (01:23:07):
That's part of why Dak was able to stroll all
over us because we.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Didn't get Miles Garrett. You know what I mean. We
didn't get Miles.

Speaker 7 (01:23:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, no, No, it was listen, it was
a good pick up, but like he took plenty of
plays off in Miami and as a guy that you
know watches watches the Dolphins diaper show, you know what
I mean, he took plenty of plays off.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Yeah. Like I said, I just think and then nobody
got really no one got pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
But we got pressure early. I was going on twenty
one up and I feel like we were getting pressure. Uh,
just not getting home. But definitely a weird, weird day
for it. You know that na Kobe boys at the end.
I mean that gets home every time. I mean talking
about a game of inches, there's the inch and he
just missed it. Yeah, he's like I said, he's that's

(01:23:57):
the game of inches. He's an inch away from hitting
the arm. That ball goes up in the air. Maybe
who knows, Maybe it doesn't right, maybe it just goes
right to the ground. But maybe ball goes up tip drill. Oh,
you know, maybe somebody's coming down when and the whole
game changes. So you know, again, game of inches.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
So oh, the number one seed since the single by
makes a Super Bowl less than fifty Wow Morris, thank you, brother.
Appreciate the little Google search. Still, I would like my
odds less of playing less games.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
But I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Maybe it just worked well for us the two years
we had it to get there, you know what I mean,
The two years we had the one seed.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
We got there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
But either way, I feel like you're stuck on the
thirty points, Like I don't. I don't need to score
thirty points. I got a great fucking defense. Okay, I
need to outscore whatever other team scores. Like I still
stand by this offense is chameleion if they can run
the goddamn football, But all bets are off if they can't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
I just think that you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Know, you're stuck on the thirty I'm stuck on just oh,
and like we don't have to score thirty. But I
felt like there was more than than one game. But
maybe you know, it wasn't my main focus, right, hadn't
been my main focus? Like Giants, yep, Giants score thirty
against They scored thirty against the Rams that are the

(01:25:29):
best team ever. They scored thirty against, thirty one against Tampa.
You mentioned the Giants. They scored twenty against Minnesota. Does
that count that close enough? I don't know, like like that,
you know what I mean, like exactly, they can't do anything,
like it just goes against your point, Like they can't
score thirty. They scored thirty three or thirty two against

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the greatest defense ever sembled in the Los Angeles Rams,
now the unbeatable Rams, Like like, come on, Bill, like
I hate today too, I hate today too.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Right, but come on, come on? Like three times they
have and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Fourth and the fourth and twenty eight points if we
want to count it. So, No, it's not where you
would like it to be, right, No, I mean the
last three weeks you need to be better. Right, it's
ten points, sixteen and twenty one, right, the last three
weeks not ideal?

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
Not ideal, but two and one in that stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Happy Thanksgiving, Billy, see your brother, I mean Thanksgiving Bill.
Let them talk shit, dude, they stink. It's a shitty organization,
all right. Yeah, probably shouldn't hire Doug Peterson. We probably
shouldn't do.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
That or Chip Kelly.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Yeah, and I mean Jesse, Yes, I mean it's pretty
damn close.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Are we really saying that this defense isn't as close
to being as good as last year's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I think they've they've improven that one.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
Just I think Jesse's tying one on tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
The only defense, Jesse, the only defense that wasn't good
in this receival was the twenty twenty three collapse defense.
This is why I don't believe their collapse worthy team.
Their defense is too good, in my opinion, for them
to collapse. So now, unless they got five injuries out
there now and they're not as.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Good, then then yeah, and they can go lose more, right,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Again, not crowning any of those three guys, but there
would have three guys in their secondary on Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
They're probably probably gonna lose that game. If Sydney Brown's
running around.

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
Yeah, I mean he's still Bunns.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
So not make an excuses, just saying like, if this
defense is healthy, there's no collapse or healthy ish, I
don't expect bumps and bruising and guys missing games. Sure,
I can't have like guys in my secondary missing and
expecting to be as good. No, I'm not going to
be as good. But if I'm close to being as
good as I am, there's no collapse in the forecast here.

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There just isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
It's impossible almost.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Yeah, un actually having forty yards a fucking game on
the goddamn ground like they they like they are, then
maybe they're like.

Speaker 5 (01:28:22):
Yeah, I think this. I think today is more of
anomaly than it is the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
What's part is what's this thing? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
I think is offensively, we've all seen it building to this, right,
whether it was tonight, whether it was an egg against
the Bears, right Chargers. I felt like in one of
these next three weeks we were giving one up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like we were too.
So the Chargers game, it's another tough.

Speaker 5 (01:28:50):
One, yeah, but we get that extra rest.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
No, I'm just saying another tough game in another away game. Yeah,
because obviously this team doesn't have any back back home,
and it's.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
A dome, So I don't know if we're gonna be
able to play there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
No, we'll think there, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
We can't point the dome, not sure. Eighty five Bears
won that Super Bowl. Wul have doumb either. Yeah, it's
tough to play to the play for great defenses to
travel inside.

Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
That was That was a bizarre statement.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Who's that Nick? Nick? Michael, You're talking about firing Nick,
but he's telling me.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
He's obviously not an Eagles fan, an Eagles jersey, Yeah,
goddamn Eagles cop and jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
I mean he's got the accessory.

Speaker 6 (01:29:41):
Early president, an early president.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Eagles don Jack market Rams number one. Now, like we
don't have eyes. Yep, we we saw that. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Are you real quick, Mike? Before we continue the conversation,
I need to know one thing. If you're talking about
firing a coach that's going to a Super Bowl twice
in three years and it was one one, Okay, I'm
I'm gonna I'm gonna just stop the conversation with you,
Like if the next part of the conversation about firing now,
if you want to go about firing Kpe, then different conversation, right,

(01:30:11):
but don't please, let's not talk about let's not talk.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
About fire and Nick. That's crazy talk. It's not even
it's not even okay.

Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
I mean, I think they said on the on the broadcast,
he's top seven all time in winning percentage in his
first five years, and we're gonna fire that guy. God
hope whoever we get in to replace him, he's better.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Jesse, I think by the acquisitions we've made the deadline,
if you want to go by the stats and not
your eyes, if you want to go by the deadline
till now, if you want to tell me these defenses
aren't similar, then I then then we're not watching the
same the same football team.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Okay, we're really not. I can't be more clear. Since
the deadline.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
If you think those defense last year defense and this
defense aren't very similar, then we're not watching the same team. Like,
we're seriously not watching the goddamn same team. Like, I
don't know what else they gotta go shut down. Maybe
since the deadline they went shut down. They literally went
to queen bag. And you can you can like it,
dislike it, you can like the backers. It doesn't matter
and they held them in seven goddamn points, and they're building, right,

(01:31:21):
And they follow up at home against the Detroit team
who love scoring points, and they hold them and they
hold them to nine all right, and the Dallas team
that loves scoring points and held them down to the
goal line and two turnovers down the goal line. Essentially,
if you can turnover on downs and give up twenty
four points, So like, tell me how they're not, you know,

(01:31:44):
And Zach poens a pick away from this game being over.

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
Yeah, yeah, something we haven't talked about all day.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Yeah, our thirty one in and we left that out.

Speaker 5 (01:31:55):
You read it perfectly.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Yeah, I'm good with you dropping it on last year's
come track.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Ye, lands your contract, I'm okay with the drop mentioned
the new deal. That's that's the right Lewis pick me please. Yeah,
I'm paying that money because that's ballgame. So you're right,
we left that out this whole show, which is crazy
because that's how much other ship happened.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Yeah, that gets overlooked so much.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Other slop app in today got an easy pick because again,
there's a reason you're a linebacker and not you weren't
put on the offense side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Right, because you can't catch.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
But he's that He's always showing you catch, so you
know he's made some great catches, great picks.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Maybe you just can't make the one right in his hands.
It needs to be a die.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Yeah, the pick, the pick bill, yep, penalties, fumbles, so
much went wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Michael and the asassory never elaborated and a fire or
nick So.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Ryan KP episode has to go when like now and
for what? Like? I just don't know if that's the
right time.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
Guys, again, I might be on the on the wrong
side of it all with Kevin Patula, right, But first
of all, it's not happening in season. That's what bad
organizations do, right, Wh's not happening now? So can we
stop in season? But whatever happens in the off season
obviously is gonna happen. But would it really be the

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worst thing if you gave Jaalen another year with the
same part play caller.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
No, unless you have the worst thing. No, No, unless
you had a home run guy again.

Speaker 5 (01:33:49):
The off season, whatever can happen, But I want, what
are you gonna do when he's back next year?

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
What offensive mind? What offensive mind out there? Got a head?
Coaching because of being a great offensive coordinator. That's who
I want in here. Like, what guy is getting fired?
There's of them or been fired. Yeah, you know what
I mean, that's the two.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
Of them out there sweeps. His boy is one.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Well, if he gets fired, he might not get fired.

Speaker 5 (01:34:17):
Oh well, that's sorry. I'm sorry her. I'm so. I'm
so shocked that he hasn't been fired yet. I already
count him fired.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
They want to keep winning games.

Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
Never been my guy. If he showed up with adoption papers,
I would fucking just.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
Then the other guy is Brian Dables.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Well, Dave All taking a second to be a play caller,
no question about it. I want that. I want that
former head coach Calvin Morgan. I want another guy, Doug.
I can't do that with because he got fired. He
got fired, you know what I'm saying. If he didn't
get fired for Nick Sirianni and it was and he

(01:34:53):
got fired for somebody else and then Nick got here,
different conversation, right, I can't bring him in, you know
for the guy.

Speaker 6 (01:35:02):
Yeah, yeah, trying to park in his parking spot. Yeah,
we can't that. That's not gonna work.

Speaker 7 (01:35:08):
Yeah, here's the shooter Doug, here's the scooter.

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
All right, we.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Give you the tables, my tables, my guy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
If I'm looking for a play caller, that was a
great play call and that's why I got a head
coaching job.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
But also a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
I think that's go with quarterbacks, right, the guy who's
coaching before then you check.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
He has coach.

Speaker 7 (01:35:40):
You just gotta be careful, you know, because they'll probably
call fifty six quarterback draws.

Speaker 6 (01:35:44):
So you gotta be careful with.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
We want that now, beg you got mean.

Speaker 6 (01:35:50):
You gotta set a limit on it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
We can't run, so we've been we were begging for
a concussion.

Speaker 7 (01:35:58):
I called blue ten Blue ten day Table, but I
would I would.

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
Though there was There's obviously been reports that he was
an issue internally, right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
I mean that organization is an issue internally, So I
mean I'm not hearing it. I think Table is great
with his players. I think Dabel cares about his players.
I don't think that was never a I don't think
that's ever been a problem with Brian Dable.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
So I think, you know, being being the head guy
isn't built.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
For everybody, man, sure, I mean, it's just not and
some guys are great at it and they get lucky.
It's nothing that's better to be lucky than go But
he got his quarterback too late.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
That's the difference. It took too long.

Speaker 5 (01:36:45):
And yeah, like you can't lose four games in the
fourth quarter and expect to keep your job.

Speaker 7 (01:36:56):
But no matter, Dard's probably, I mean, did it happen
because he's close to being in the freaking's got one
foot in the mor.

Speaker 6 (01:37:06):
DA will there any longer?

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
I mean, geez, yeah, and he goes and yeah, I
mean Joe, Joe, Joe's the issue there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Now. He's had some good drafts and he's had some
good job.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Free agency recently. What he's laying, we're gonna give any
giants credit here. But he's also had some bad ones.
So I mean again, I would think Brian Dable and
a heart beat. If Mike McDaniel was fired, I would
take him. I would take him on a heart beat. Yeah,
build back again McDaniel, Dable two guys that I think

(01:37:41):
are great blay cars.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Listen, McDaniel gets the most out of to it. That's
saying a lot. Now. Again, leader of men is different.
When when you're the head guy, it's different.

Speaker 6 (01:37:52):
They mess up the drafting spells.

Speaker 7 (01:37:56):
You're picking in the top five every fucking year, so
you know you expect to got a fucking meal.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
Fucking pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Yeah, he always come out after the Eagles lose.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
You'll never see him the three times we saw him
this year after losses.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
So it's it's how he operates.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Money. My god, what up?

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Well, I mess your babe, and we just got to
get back to a Friday. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
I mean, Fridays Friday's a must win football game. Let's
go get let's go out physical home. They're good defensively too.
They're good offensively. Man, when you've got a quarterback like
that that can extend, they're the dangerous guys out there.
But he's been known to throw some up and obviously
he's so young. So this is where you gotta hope

(01:38:47):
victim out scheme them.

Speaker 5 (01:38:54):
Yeah. I don't. I don't think they're very good, but
I will give credit. They do find ways to win games.
Sleep Yeah, is Caleb.

Speaker 7 (01:39:03):
And you got you got three days that you got
three days to find a way to gash them on
the ground, all right, you know what I mean? They
gave up one hundred and sixty between two guys, right,
you know the Eagles, you know former you know key holder,
Kenneth won Kenneth Gainwell ran for ninety two today, nine
point and a nine point two average, fifty five, you know,

(01:39:25):
broke a fifty five yarder and then of course one
ran for sixty eight. So there's one sixty between two
guys right there. So you know, they don't they don't
defend the run very well, all right, And and again
you know, you can only play who's on your schedule.
So but I agree, you know, they when you're not
that good, you're not your schedule is not gonna be
that great.

Speaker 6 (01:39:44):
So they haven't, you know, haven't played anybody.

Speaker 7 (01:39:47):
But I think this league is full of fucking shitty
teams that haven't played anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
So you know, so they played somebody Friday.

Speaker 10 (01:39:55):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, absolutely, that one's.

Speaker 5 (01:40:05):
Early score. I like you. I like for your heads
at Tommy in the thirties. I mean, I get to
the thirties, right, So that's what Bill says, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Mean twenty twenty eight, twenty four is in a loss,
and Bill, they only got there.

Speaker 6 (01:40:19):
And I didn't want to go back. I didn't want to.

Speaker 7 (01:40:21):
I thought Bill want to sleep. I didn't want to
pick at that scab again. But they only got they
only got there with the rams because you know it
was a scoopid score by Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
Appreciate you appreciated that out.

Speaker 7 (01:40:37):
Where because the guy and eclips picked it up and
what took it to the house.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Sweeps gonna need you to leave that out, So left out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Stop with dog.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
I love Dougie Pig, I love him, but stop it.
Frank Reich, Frank Freig, I absolutely would because I think
again I think he said I would bring him where
as a connection.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
They're close, right, so I have no problem there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
But but again I'm only bringing in somebody who was
a former head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
They got their you know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Got their head coaching job because they you know, we're
a great coordinator.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Or I was given Kevin Battolo two years.

Speaker 5 (01:41:20):
Yeah, that's that I think is the most likely. Right,
It's just obviously no one's ever gonna turn down a
head coaching job. But like, tell them more, did you
like have to go to New Orleans? Like doesn't Tennessee
sound a lot more better with cam Wore than New Orleans?

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
I mean I wouldn't have gone to New New Orleans.
I mean, but again, I guess he thinks when's he
gonna get the opportunity again. But if I'm running it
back with this offense, I probably would have you know,
I probably would have waited for a better job in
a situation.

Speaker 6 (01:41:53):
Right, Definitely, you were in a good spot.

Speaker 7 (01:41:58):
As a as a grown man and said no plenty
of times.

Speaker 6 (01:42:01):
There's there's nothing wrong with staying put sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
And I get itsge of being a head coach in
the NFL is obviously nothing I'm ever gonna you know, understand,
but run back at it, try to try to go
back to back or maybe back to back to back
with this team, or go coach Spencer Rattler and pylor
shock of it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Well, I don't even think I don't even think it's prestige, Greg,
I think it's just dours and cents, right, you know,
you pay a ship want to be an NFL head
coach compared to you know, assistant roles a lot of times.

Speaker 5 (01:42:38):
Yeah, but I mean prestige. I guess there's only thirty
two of you, right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:42:43):
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're in the picture. Every year,
you know, they go down to Hawaii, and then you
know they're wearing funny shirts and you know we can
take the picture apart and have a good time with it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:53):
So you know, of course you want to be part
of that picture.

Speaker 7 (01:42:55):
But agreed, there's you know, if you keep doing your job, well,
you know, the phone's gonna ring every year. The phone
will ring every year if you keep doing your job.
So a job is going to keep continued to open up,
and there might be a better opportunity, you know, because
sometimes and I agree, and here's here's where Kellen could

(01:43:18):
have used our our guidance. You know, as as wily veterans,
sometimes you only get one shot.

Speaker 6 (01:43:24):
I know you're a young cat, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:43:26):
But if you turn that into a fucking poop show
and no one's already a diaper show. But if you
continue and you don't change a diaper and you just
let it fucking fill up, but shit, you know there,
you know it's gonna be ready your feet, brother, and
then you might not get another job.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
And that's not an easy rebuild over there, there's easy rebuilds.

Speaker 6 (01:43:45):
And there there's no quarterback like like I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Qu even if they had a great roster right now
for gotta have it to be gotta have it like
they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
But my point is like, say he's had a really young,
good roster and they.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
A QB away. I could get it, but they're not
even like a good young roster that's a QB away.
They're like just not a good roster period. That's a
QB away. Like that's a long time away. Then now
everybody's a short period away. When you get your QB
I get it right, But man, goodness gracious, how long
do you get that? That's another dable situation. You know

(01:44:21):
that dude's fired, fired in three years. He's lucky if
he gets he's fired in the third year.

Speaker 7 (01:44:26):
Yeah, I mean the guy that the quarterback they drafted
is playing now, so I mean he's he's.

Speaker 6 (01:44:32):
You know, he's grinding his teeth so that the clock started.

Speaker 7 (01:44:35):
The clock started on twenty nine year old Tyler shop hour,
and he's hold on the how old.

Speaker 5 (01:44:46):
Not far off?

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:44:51):
Jane, when can't be taught?

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
Really, I've had enough of a gentle and slander.

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
We go through loss.

Speaker 7 (01:45:07):
It's like they should just shut down the city. It
should be an off day. Tomorrow should be an off day.

Speaker 6 (01:45:12):
They really should.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
Not, because I mean, this is really this.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Biss me off, This piss me off, because like I've
I've heard it too many times, and it's like if
you go back on draft night, there's things you cannot question.
And the ability to want to learn and get better
was one thing you can't question about him, and his
leadership is another thing you couldn't question about him. If
you want to question other intangibles, be my guest. We
all have question marks, for sure. I think he's answered

(01:45:43):
every question that you can try to put at his feet,
all right, every question that you have that you want
to come knock on his door and ask him, he's answered.
He's answered right, Like, there's really nothing left more for
him to answer besides don't continue to win. Right, He's
answered everything. Does he have flaws from the pocket at times?

Speaker 6 (01:46:03):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
I mean every every quarterback has their things right, So,
I mean, but he knows how to win football games.
He's always been a winner. So I'm tired of like
him not being able to be taught. Like that's that's
just sounds like that was reported by like degon now
or somebody that hate that doesn't like them, right, like
I'm tired of it, like the outside noise that it's

(01:46:26):
creeped in and it's football team by dial radio, by fans,
and by people that love drama, like they just want
to find like people somebody weren't happy unless they're complaining.
This is what I'm finding out that the Philadelphia media
is they're not happy with winning because there's not enough
to complain about.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
What can we go find and hunt for to complain about?

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
And this is all we do and we get spoiled
And since when are we spoiled of an hate coming
this week and hating to win football team?

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Like what are we spoiled about? It's hard to win.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
You turn on Thursday night the Bills get out played
by a Texas team. But about up quarterback in like
you can turn around all the time. We're teams that
shouldn't lose, lose or don't show up or whatever it is.
And you don't see these teams and maybe they do
get crushed and they're you know, by their own media,
but this it seems like it's it's but they have

(01:47:18):
a J questions. They ask a J questions trying to
get him pissed off.

Speaker 6 (01:47:22):
Yeah, yeah, sure, it's definitely a gloom.

Speaker 7 (01:47:28):
It's a doom and gloom area. The Midtlantic, Middletlantic stuff.
The northeast is tough.

Speaker 6 (01:47:38):
Yep, CAZy. You're right, absolutely, brother, Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:47:43):
Everybody expects to be seventeen and oh and you know,
score forty points and you know, give up nine points
on defense and.

Speaker 6 (01:47:55):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 7 (01:48:03):
Wow, you know so instead of you know, like I said,
that's why you know, we come in here and try
to try to put our spin on it and and
give our opinions and and try to stay uh semi
rational as possible.

Speaker 6 (01:48:22):
Especially YouTube guys, you know what I mean. Like, the
easiest thing to do.

Speaker 7 (01:48:24):
Is, like I said, when you're when you're a bad or.
That's to me, that's why it's easy for the dial
and all these other places. When when you're a bad organization,
it's easy to scream into the microphone, you know what
I mean. Like if you're a Giants fan or or
you know, uh, you know a guy that covers you know,
the fucking Giants, of course you're gonna scream in a

(01:48:46):
microphone every Monday about dable and about and about losing
game after game with a freaking lead. And now Dabele's
gone and they did the same thing today. So those
streaming in the microphone again tomorrow, all right. You know
that's the definition of insanity. You keep doing the same
thing and expect different results. And that's that's who you are.

(01:49:08):
That's who you are giants so and that's not just damn,
that's that's a lot of these organizations. So there's no
reason to scream in the microphone here. I mean, it's
one loss.

Speaker 6 (01:49:18):
It's bad, you know, it's it's I guess you know
your hated rival. It wasn't you know, it wasn't pretty.
A lot of bad things.

Speaker 7 (01:49:27):
I think we addressed all the all the horrible things
that occurred and what they need to clean up, and
it's up to them now to clean them up. And
then the beautiful thing about having a short week is
you get right back on the worst. You know, like
I said, they're in tomorrow looking at the film. I
imagine not being you know, ever been in an NFL
locker room. But you know, you know, if you weren't

(01:49:48):
on a short week, tomorrow would be an off day.

Speaker 6 (01:49:50):
See you Wednesday. But since it's a short week, you know,
they're in the NMR.

Speaker 7 (01:49:54):
Looking at film, you know, getting their bodies right because
you know, with the injuries and uh and then you
know you got Tuesday, you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
you know to uh, you know, to prepare.

Speaker 6 (01:50:12):
So I fully expect them to, you know, to answer
the bell on Friday. All right. So that's just that
goes without saying.

Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
You know, I don't know where they are offensively. I
don't know where they'll be offensively, but I think you know,
there are plenty good enough to take care of business
on Friday against a Bears team that's you know, winning games,
you know, and and it bends the flavor of the
month and and uh, you know, nobody's crowning them, but

(01:50:41):
they're there. They they're they're a good football team. They're
a better football team than they wore.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Yeah, I mean, today's simple. It's just if you win
a turnam about all today, you probably win the game.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Another another situation where they usually win that battle and
you know the Eagles that is, and they didn't. So
if you just win that bat on Friday, you win
that football game.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
The Eagles win. The Eagles win Friday, they win.

Speaker 6 (01:51:08):
They turn about what's this fucking gonna talk about when
he went ball suck? What the fuck are you talking about? Did?

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:51:14):
Will give you the fucking platform, right, nobody's fucking ball sucking.

Speaker 6 (01:51:17):
I don't know. Please elaborate, right, We're not yelling into
the microphone.

Speaker 7 (01:51:22):
There's an eight and three football team, right, I mean,
the sky's not falling, you know, So what do you want?

Speaker 6 (01:51:29):
Is that what you want?

Speaker 7 (01:51:30):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:51:31):
There's a fucking great organization defending champs.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
What do you want? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
I don't know what you're talking about, Sean, because you
said all of all off season, the first four weeks
last year, they had a dummy down the system for him.
Eagles win. It's not just jaaling. Nobody is complaining. Nobody
said it was just jamming. It's everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
They have a really good football team.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
But we're gonna but quarterbacks get the most scrutiny, in
the most credit, naturally, it's how the position works.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
So, you know, I don't know what you're you know,
I don't know what you're saying. You know what I mean,
I don't know where you're getting at. Yet.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
You came up with the Callen Moore try to teach him.
You made an Outlandi's statement that Jale couldn't take the teaching.
So what does what do you mean? You're telling me
that he's not coachable for that statement, and they say
he didn't take on the teaching. They want a goddamn
Super Bowl. Kellen Moore got a head coaching job. So

(01:52:36):
for you to make that statement is in outlandis comment
to make just on the surface alone. Right, you want
to go deeper than we can, but you're making that
just on the surface of that landish So.

Speaker 6 (01:52:50):
Terrible timing, you know, the Super Bowl champs and the
Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 7 (01:52:54):
I mean it's at a little embarrassing, a little embarrassing
with the timing. You know, maybe wait till they little
four in a row and he's you know, and he's
got you know, one touchdown and ten picks.

Speaker 6 (01:53:04):
I don't I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't
know where you're going with that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
I thought he was too at first because your comment
was up, Spells. His comment was up, and I was like, wait, wait, wait,
what did I miss? And then I saw it, and
then I saw it you clarified.

Speaker 6 (01:53:18):
Clips We love yet spell.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
But yeah, I mean, like like I don't like they're
not about to have a down year too, like they're
having a down year. And like I said, the perfect
season that for a running back, that the down year
would be a year after he had a monster year.
So it makes sense that that offensive lines banged up
after they had a long season a pound and he's
he's a little he's a little set half a second,

(01:53:44):
semi second slower, because that's what happens after a year
like that. Because not only was it a monster year,
people forget that the end he went, he won a
super Bowl, so that becomes that year becomes even longer
than most running backs steal with so it's even longer year.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
And then look at the those injuries he almost had
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Somebody we're really going down, going down, getting tangled up
right on the knee, and somehow being like.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
Oh, thank god, he's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
He had the growing right, so he's had some things
where you're like, oh, you know, he's just a you know,
an inch away from being from being gone because of
the wear.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
And tear of that season.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
So no one that coming in, you know, that's to
me why I would have from earlier in the year,
I would have been I would have been splitting series
with younger guys on purpose, to give those guys early reps,
not to not to say this isn't my main running
back is to get those guys early reps. Give change
of paces. Right, I'm a big change of pace guy

(01:54:43):
in this league. If you can change a pace in
this league, you're even better. That being said, right, The
whole long story short about this is that you would
have saved him eight weeks of giving him twenty carries
or twenty touches. You get around going with this, and
now with leg can start to come back. Instead of

(01:55:03):
week one, you get where I'm going. Week one, it's carried. No,
you signed to aj Dillon, You have will Shipley at
the time. Give those guys carries. Now, Bigsby, every time
he comes in he busts an eight yarder, nine yard Well,
guess what, Give the guy a series or two car Yeah,
come on, it's inexcusable when the guy's average and when
he's averaging per carry in.

Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
A game we only ran ten times.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Yeah, and I'm not crowded. I'm not crowd today. Today
is one carry wasn't a passing down. So I'll take
that one for a grant of saw. But I've watched
him run and not passing downs and he's averaging nine
point one yards of carry, So maybe give him a
little bit more to football.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
Like I said, Will Shipley's averaging four yards of carry.
You know A J.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Dillon was averaging five when he's healthy. Everybody's averaging more
than saquanis now. He has more attempts, of course, but
it doesn't hurt to take those attempts down this year.
When you when you are, when you do flick, your
team's good enough. Here what I'm trying to say here,
because it's a long game. You're not not playing him,
You're not load You're load managing a great running back

(01:56:05):
after one of the best years of all time, literally
one of the best years of all time. You're load
managing him. So just do it like it shouldn't hurt
your offense. Will you have an A J. Brown DeVante Smith?

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
Just look at the Lions.

Speaker 7 (01:56:18):
I mean, obviously you know I I complain to you
guys because I have him on fantasy. But if I
was a Lions fan, I would say to myself, man,
how does Gibbs ever leave the field?

Speaker 6 (01:56:28):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:56:28):
But to your point, you know they are Montgomery's is
a good back. So they you know, they they're giving
but more so they're giving them a puff man. They're
keeping them, they're trying to keep that wear and tear
off them because he's that home run hitter. He's he's
absolutely electric, you know. So you know, you know, can

(01:56:48):
you know k tank Be you know the Eagles Montgomery,
who knows, I mean, he's every time he's he gives
an opportunity, you know, he's you know, he's he's ripping
off you know, ripping off your arts.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
So I don't know, he's definitely dealing with the wear
and tear from last year, Jess. Every running back in
the history of the game that led the league in
rushing usually comes back the next year and has a
little bit of a down year.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Now, when you magnify that by having over.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Two thousand yards, go look at those numbers the next
year and then go tell me how may those guys
with over two thousand went on and won a Super Bowl?
Because like, you know what I mean, So that's even
more games, more time that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Your body can't get that little extra rests.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
You know, you don't even if you're not if your
team's not even a playoff team you got, you got
an extra two months, you know what I mean. If
you're now if your team is a playoff team, then
you don't you get what I'm saying with this. But yeah,
either way playoff team or not good team or not
good team, most of those great running backs will have
a little bit of a slide that next year, following
year they'll pop again. Like Barry Sanders talked about it,

(01:57:52):
So you know what I mean, how hard it is
after that after that monster two thousand year, two thousand
year he's talking about, not just like a twelve hundred
year or fifteen hundred, you know what I mean, Like
even that that type of year two k.

Speaker 5 (01:58:07):
Yeah, he even looked down in Baltimore. I mean, Derek
Henry's not having a great, great year, you know what
I mean, He's not replicated his two thousand yard output.
Oh it's hard man, So like yeah, and it's Tommy.
It goes back to like kind of what I said earlier,
right like when you used to win a Super Bowl,
used to get a little grace period of like a year,
two years, like it don't really matter what happened that

(01:58:28):
next year. But because the way this was built and
the expectations that I think they put on themselves and
and we put on the on them as well. It's like,
you're down here.

Speaker 6 (01:58:41):
Hangover is a thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
I mean, I think more of the Super Bowl loss. Hangover,
right is the is the big thing that kills teams.
And we saw that in twenty twenty four or twenty
twenty three, I should say, we saw that hangover hit
us late.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
Right. It was a weird hangover.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
Like carried but we were winning games, but it wasn't
a hangover. But yeah, you're right, So he's Super Bow
hangover winner, loser, doesn't matter. It's hard to go back.
It's hard to it's hard. It's hard to win games
in this league. So we talked about this for weeks
and weeks this year. Like the Brady Patriots, if you
really go back and looking through seventeen goddamn years of man, okay,

(01:59:15):
when they win super Bowls and next year, something something
on that team struggled, right, Something offensively wasn't as good.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
Was it their passing game, whether the running game.

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
But they found ways to make it work, and they
found ways to win games. That's all that mattered every year,
and they would they would they would you know, you
guys know exactly what I'm talking about, and it would
be the ugliest eight and two football team you saw, Like,
I don't know how they're eight and two, right, Like,
how are we talking about the Eagles and they clue
how they're eight and two?

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
All the eight and two guys, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:59:48):
So like.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
That should be expected after a super Bowl win. But
if you're eight and two, how are you complaining? Like
if you lost Super Bowl last year and you're eight
and two, I could see what complaints are coming in.

Speaker 1 (02:00:01):
Well, we're trying to get over to home. We're trying
to get over to home.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
To your point, Greg, because of the youth of this
team and why we see the window, why we and
why does the fans want more?

Speaker 6 (02:00:12):
And the talent I mean, I mean title games.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
It's not even super Bowl talk.

Speaker 6 (02:00:19):
You know, they may tradeing me.

Speaker 7 (02:00:20):
You know, they went in and draft, they went in trades.
You know, they win by signing guys. You know, so
there's you know, the off season. They never sleep in
the off season, you know what I mean. So you
know you see plenty of other sports organizations do that,
you know, so when that happens, you know, the expectations
get a little lower, and it's like, all right, well
we'll just be happy to let's see what we can

(02:00:42):
do with with the current roster.

Speaker 6 (02:00:43):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (02:00:43):
They're they're constantly moving, you know, moving the moving the
chess pieces around, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (02:00:48):
And that's why they're in the lead organization. You know,
I'm saying this as an outsider. I mean I'm not.
There's no green here's no green underwear all. You know
what I mean. Like, it's just a guy looking.

Speaker 11 (02:00:58):
In good to have you looking Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
I mean you know, you know, I'll find struggles a little.

Speaker 12 (02:01:09):
Bit appreciate you, no clue, No, I mean, Jesse, look
at it makes you respect, It makes you when you
when you when.

Speaker 2 (02:01:25):
You go back and you look at the Patriots Chiefs,
really the Patriots, I mean Chiefs had a great run too, right,
their runs not over yet, but you know what i mean, Like,
when you go back and look at these, it does
make you respect it even more because how hard it
is to do it, and how hard it is to
follow up and and and respond that second year and
keep winning games because you're to hunt it, right, you know,

(02:01:48):
when the Eagles are haunted every game, and as a
reigning champs, you're hunting your schedules harder. Naturally, it's it'sup
both the arder. Not all times work out that way.

Speaker 7 (02:01:59):
And listen, be the hunted, because not only are the
hunted because they're good, it is because you know, now
they're the most polarizing right because of the touch bush
and the most hated play amongst people. They can't stop
it or do it, you know what I mean. So
then you know that's it became a topic of discussion

(02:02:20):
this offseason.

Speaker 6 (02:02:21):
They voted on it.

Speaker 7 (02:02:24):
So you know, they're always going to be a lightning rod,
you know, and when you're good, that's what happens, you know.
So you've got to embrace that, and you gotta you know,
and you gotta have thick skin.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
You know, How can they run the ball in the
next five days?

Speaker 6 (02:02:43):
Absolutely you can run the ball on the Bears.

Speaker 7 (02:02:47):
So you gotta figure it, gotta figure it out, all right.
This is a you know, this is a hundred yard
game for sakuon uh and and.

Speaker 6 (02:02:57):
A fifty yard game for tank.

Speaker 7 (02:02:58):
If you're if you're asking me, you know how you
know a game plan going in This is a hundred
yarder for Saquon and and and another fifty for Tank
and you you know, you try to run the full
I understand they're banged up.

Speaker 6 (02:03:10):
I get it. I'm just saying, you can run the
football on this team. Right, So.

Speaker 7 (02:03:15):
Offensive lineman in the National Football League, you're alignment, you know,
a member of the Eagles, and Jeff Statlin, you want
to put your hands on people. So they got to
move people around this week. You know, on Friday, they
gotta they gotta win the line of scrimmage like they've
done for years on both sides. Because I think somebody
mentioned it earlier. They got home once today, all right,

(02:03:38):
that's that's concerning all right. So when you don't win
the line of scrimmage on both sides, all right, that's
how you collapse.

Speaker 6 (02:03:45):
And that's how you get l's. This team has been.

Speaker 7 (02:03:48):
Great for a long time because they've been great on
both sides. They've been great in the trenches offensively and defensive.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
Yeah, when we first started watching, appreciate you d thanks,
and yeah, I would suggest everybody steps listening to dial
listens here, But no, I'll say, like you know to that,
like when when you first, you know, you're teaching teaching
the kids what football is about. You start with how
you win. And you went up front, and you win

(02:04:17):
by a great offensive defensive line that's able to create pressure,
stop pressure.

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
Run the football, stop the run. You know, that's how
you win.

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
I thought the defensive front did a good job today
of stopping the run early in this football game except
passing situations. Right, you make teams one dimensional, right, you
play the defensive strengths. I just said that, saying that
that we're one dimensional all the time now because of
our running game.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
So it sweeps this point.

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
You know, I even need jail mad forty yards into
this rushing attack because we know when he ran the
football early today, right, it just opened things up, like
naturally when he runs the ball, it opens up everything.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
So like he needs not just design runs.

Speaker 2 (02:04:57):
Well, like I go back to the RPL the RPO
could be so dangerous with Saquon and jailing, right, and
I don't think they want to.

Speaker 6 (02:05:06):
You can do it to answer you know the guy's question.
I appreciate the comment.

Speaker 7 (02:05:10):
But I mean, yeah, we got I they're not winning
the line of scriptage, right, But doesn't it you know,
not every game's the same, right, So you know what
I mean, Like, that's what we're saying. We're expecting, you know,
to make some adjustments right in a short week and
try to.

Speaker 6 (02:05:26):
And stick to it all right, and not not just
abandon it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
You know what I mean, Well, they get one hundred
yards of Saquon because he's really that carry away, right,
he just hasn't really had it, he said one.

Speaker 1 (02:05:39):
I mean he's a carry away from one hundred.

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
You know, he's a sixty yard or seventy yard away
from it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
It's just you know, again they they haven't.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
Yeah, I mean if they do RPO more r PO
with jailing and allow jailing to keep it and running
at times in that format, you know, I think it's
going to open up a lot of things.

Speaker 5 (02:06:06):
And and to that point, like that's what kind of
made that third down call against kind of the Billie's point.
That's what kind of made that third down call kind
of interesting. Is it was just a pure drop back.
There was no there was no either getting jailing out
on the outside, right, there was no move in the pocket,
there's no warpo. It was just a pure shotgun drop back.

Speaker 6 (02:06:28):
Too.

Speaker 5 (02:06:28):
Is we didn't go under center a lot. No, the
last few weeks we were doing a lot of under
center stuff and we didn't do it. I don't think
we did it once.

Speaker 2 (02:06:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:06:36):
I mean, like, like I said, a lot of there
was a lot of this, you know, a lot of
bad things happened. It was a perfect storm, you know
what I mean. And coaching is not off the off
the hook, you know what I mean. So it had
you know it always this leg will make you scratch
your head, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (02:06:51):
So a team that masters.

Speaker 7 (02:06:53):
The touch push, you know, you would figure that they
would try that twice in a row, all right, extend
the drive and and go from there instead of a
straight drop back like he was, you know, playing tech
bo Bowl football. I mean that was like the worst
thing I've ever seen. There was no athleticism, there was
no chance there. He just went straight back and got engulfed.

Speaker 2 (02:07:16):
Yeah, and we're a big hole up the middle too, yeah,
where he has just taken off earlier. But to your point, yeah,
I mean, like I didn't even think about too straight toushies.
I mean I just thought, right, yeah, yeah, I thought
run the ball toush or something to get ja and rolling,
you know, a short throw for a first or him whatever,

(02:07:39):
you know what I.

Speaker 1 (02:07:39):
Mean, doesn't it doesn't matter. The game's over. That's how
you know the show. Yeah, I'm on I'm on the.

Speaker 2 (02:07:47):
Bears, and it's a it's a winnable game.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
I think it's a game that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
You can get its fielm good again about ourselves in
terms of just like hey, look at a response.

Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
We're nine and three. Now we're not.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
You know, you win that football game. You're nine and three.
Come on, sometimes you want to be playing for something too.

Speaker 7 (02:08:07):
Yeah, like I said, guys are missing, but you shouldn't.
You know what we talk about in baseball, right, you
know as or you know, as a hitter, right, your
approach never changes, all right. The situation changes, you know,
sometimes your plan has to change.

Speaker 6 (02:08:20):
Man on third, you know, listen.

Speaker 7 (02:08:21):
You got to shorten up whatever, right, but your approaching
the hitter doesn't change, all right. You an aggressive guy
or you guy it likes to go you know, you know,
drive the ball the other way? What you know, whatever
you're you know, your approaching ever change. So my point is,
whether you've got injuries or not, you should never go
away from who you are.

Speaker 6 (02:08:38):
All right.

Speaker 7 (02:08:39):
This team has always been a physical team in both trenches.
And I understand the defense's point, you know, like they're
not winning the last scrimmage. We we couldn't agree with
you more, buddy. We're watching the.

Speaker 6 (02:08:50):
Games with you. Man.

Speaker 7 (02:08:51):
So but you have to you know, that's your identity,
all right. You know that got you to being who
you are. And you know, losing the super Bowl and
winning the Super Bowl and and and and being and
and and being who you are.

Speaker 6 (02:09:09):
You know what I mean. So it's like you gotta
to me.

Speaker 7 (02:09:12):
You got to get back to who you are, you
know what I mean. Don't try to be cute and
try to be somebody or not. I know you got
playmakers and you've got plenty of weapons on this offense,
you know what I mean. But uh, and again, I
know you got to make a justments if you know,
without Laye and and and and guys are banged.

Speaker 6 (02:09:28):
Up and and and there's no more you know, like.

Speaker 7 (02:09:34):
You know to run the football better, you know better than.

Speaker 1 (02:09:44):
We couldn't run with Lane anyway, So even went late,
it didn't matter. We weren't. We haven't run the ball
well anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:09:49):
So to your point, it's like getting it's getting back
to the identity. Running the football is a one two thing.
It's a scheme thing to right, and it's just weird.
It's a rhythm now, you know, you can't ident it's
hard to identify what's really wrong with the wrong game either.

(02:10:10):
It's crazy besides jail and just not being as big
of a part of it as he has been in
years past, in my opinion, And I think, you know, yeah,
you're trying to have to have a guy get killed.

Speaker 1 (02:10:25):
It's very easy to get killed in this lake.

Speaker 5 (02:10:28):
I think that's where like some of the defend right,
that's where somebody play calling issues coming to play, like
we're always up the middle instead of like, hey let's
get outside a little bit, right, Tom, we talked about
the last few weeks, Hey let's get Sequin on the outside.
And I thought on that game, I thought, you know,
I thought we were that that plan was there, whether

(02:10:48):
it was the run, whether it was the past. Right,
we were getting Saque out in space. You're getting guys
open in space and letting them run after the ball.
And then everything stopped. Everything stopped.

Speaker 2 (02:10:59):
I remember, I've never seen like it, Like I really
thought the game was over, like and I don't ever
feel that way. But I was like twenty one nothing.
I'm like, okay, this this is it. This is with
with our defense.

Speaker 7 (02:11:13):
Pain your ears back and and and you know they're
not the offensive line that they used to be, you know,
paying your ears back. And you know, I fully expected
this to be you know, four or five sack.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
Game, no pressure.

Speaker 6 (02:11:25):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:11:25):
And I think, and I think that's where I do
think that's where, you know, having too straight a Monday
night game, a Sunday night game.

Speaker 1 (02:11:35):
Right, and then followed up by a Fox.

Speaker 2 (02:11:37):
Game in a week, right, Like I think I think
you run out of get up games. I think I
think naturally, you just run out of get up games
for the front. You know what I'm saying, right, you
can you can run out of a get up game
now Friday. You gotta get up now. And I think
Nix that I didn't even mean to say that, but
Nix said that is pressing what the team get up,
A nice team, get up, got another one.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
We gotta get up for the next one.

Speaker 2 (02:11:59):
It's I mean, get up for them now, right, And
that was his mess, the team to get up. Respond,
We're on to the next one. And I'll say the
same thing. You know, it's really just really just get up,
get up, Get.

Speaker 1 (02:12:11):
Up for the get up for the bears. You know
what do you what do you do when or something.

Speaker 13 (02:12:16):
Like that happens, Yeah, exactly find it and like I said,
and and and the powers to be get in there
and and and find ways to you know, put you know,
your players in the best situation to succeed, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 7 (02:12:32):
So whether it's getting the guy on the outside, whether
it's you know, double on a guy, when it's you know,
you know, you know, pulling a guard, I understand, you know,
pulling a guy, getting the guy, getting the guy outside.
You know, can we run a sweep we gotta you
got a home run hit or at Barkley, you know
what I mean. Like, you know, let's find a way
to get him, you know, maybe get him outside, get
him in space, you know what I mean, so he

(02:12:53):
doesn't you know, they're you know, the holes aren't there,
so that you know, we all know that that they
were last year. You know, you can drive a truck
through and then you still had to be It wasn't like,
oh anybody can do that, you know what I mean.
But there there was you know, giant holes that he
got through. He got to the second level last year
more than anybody maybe in the history of the game.

(02:13:14):
I mean, you know what I mean, let's call it
spake without he can play touch football. Last year, you
could have played touch football and got he got to
the second level.

Speaker 6 (02:13:23):
So that's not happening this year. So now that's what
we're talking about. Creativity, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, like you know, you got to get.

Speaker 7 (02:13:30):
Out in space, you know, and get this guy, you know,
find a way to you know, get you know, bounce
something outside. Get get out in space and get around
the corner and see if you can.

Speaker 6 (02:13:40):
You know, you can break a twenty five thirty yarder,
you know what I mean. They don't have to be
the sixty orders. They're fun, you know what I mean.
But about twenty five thirty order? Yeah, you know, oh.

Speaker 7 (02:13:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they keep the guys out, Yeah,
get the guys out of the box.

Speaker 1 (02:14:01):
You guys want to do crumb in a week?

Speaker 5 (02:14:04):
What's the first down?

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Like on a rounven.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
Minutes seven minutes left in the in the broadcast, But
you want to do a crumber. It's been a while
since we all done crumbling gather. Yeah, you got a
penn stake, Greg, Is that where you're at with.

Speaker 5 (02:14:22):
It's kind of a crumb but not really a crumb.
Uh yeah, Well, first of all, real quick, I think
James Franklin landed in a perfect spot for him. I
think Check is the perfect spot. It's a perfect marriage.
James Franklin trus the d m V area that Delaware,
Maryland Virginia area really well already, h And there's no
pressure at Virginia.

Speaker 6 (02:14:42):
Check. You went on the Games thousand, a couple of games.

Speaker 5 (02:14:46):
You maybe beat Dabbo once or Dabbo might be leaving.
So uh, your only your only uh is I'm sorry,
your only competition is Clemson in Florida state in theory, right, yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:14:57):
So it's an absolute home run. Higher. We know what,
we know what, we know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:01):
What kind of recruiter is this is?

Speaker 6 (02:15:07):
Yeah, we are.

Speaker 7 (02:15:08):
It's not a place where that wants to or expects
to just be you know, nine and three, nine in three,
ten and two every year, you know what I mean?
This is the place that that expects championships, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (02:15:21):
So especially especially recently.

Speaker 7 (02:15:23):
Right, Yes, he got them, he got them, he built
he got him back to the prominence and then he
got him as far as he could get them. So
the time, the time is it was his, he was
his expiration.

Speaker 6 (02:15:37):
Date was on. You know, his milk was bad. You know,
I mean time for him to go. But you know,
I agree, I think it was a home run higher
for that.

Speaker 5 (02:15:44):
Yeah, Mike Crum, though, I will it is part it
is Penn State and part of ben State is you
fired James Franklin in October and you still don't have
a head coach. Right, all these guys are going to
get locked up, right, you know everyone's getting extensions and
you're not even in play for the big guys. But please,

(02:16:06):
please please, and I do and I don't mean any
disrespect to the guy. I don't mean any ill will.
The guy is is Penn State through and through. But
please do not hire Terry Smith. Please do not hire
Terry Smith. You don't fire James Franklin in October to
then because he couldn't win the big game to then
turn around and hire a guy off of his staff

(02:16:29):
just because and he has a guy's playing well. And
I know it's a push after the most recent game,
uh least the win last night, but you beat, you
beat Michigan State, You're beat in the brasket without Ryola,
and you're gonna beat Rutgers to go to the pitch
stripe Bowl. Like, let's not act. It's not like act
like Terry Smith is is beating Iowa or Ohio State, right,

(02:16:51):
Terry Smith is gonna be in the conversation. But please
don't make the mistake and hire him. And again, that's
that's no disrespect to Terry. I know people are are
we gonna be like, ah, you hate Harry And I'm like, no,
I don't hate Terry.

Speaker 1 (02:17:03):
I just.

Speaker 5 (02:17:05):
It's it's it's a non ne for the for the future.
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 (02:17:11):
Yeah, my my crumbs. Simple. It's just you know, you
would have thought we were two and eight going into
this week.

Speaker 2 (02:17:18):
Uh of a Dallas game that's always should be looked
as as a rivalry game and in a game you
want to go win. And now with all the distractions,
and you know when the first thing that the Fox
broadcast sideline reporters are are talking about to start this broadcast,
are you know, you know Hurts and people in this

(02:17:41):
football team not liking the things he does on the
football field and having a problem with it, and blah
blah blah blah. Right, and that's like the first thing
is being talked about. I just have a major issue
with it. I have made sure issue with the with
the local media created here and then what's turning in
the more of a national thing. And it's just weird
to me for a guy that just wants to win

(02:18:03):
football games that people are just gonna look for any
way to try to like to break this team up
locally because they can't be happy these these dry fucking
jock dry or sheet beat reporters. They shouldn't even have
access to some of the questions to be even though
out to have access to be able to ask some

(02:18:24):
of the questions that they ask. Yeah, so that's where
i'm I'm this is eight and three football teams, team
that wins a lot of games. A quarterback and coach
has won a ton since their marriage began.

Speaker 1 (02:18:38):
That's what we define it all off of.

Speaker 2 (02:18:39):
That's what we define great coaches and great quarterbacks off of,
is their wins losses?

Speaker 1 (02:18:45):
Uh, how many Super Bowls that they have? How many
title games where they in?

Speaker 2 (02:18:49):
Right, when we all sit back and look at their
body of work at the end of the day and
what gets them in the canton and what makes them great.

Speaker 1 (02:18:55):
These are the things that that you.

Speaker 2 (02:18:57):
Look back on, right, not how not not what the
roster was and this and that. Right there's things aren't
remembered as much as it's just a simple facts did
you win?

Speaker 1 (02:19:09):
Yeah? Did you win?

Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
And the crazy record we've had with them together, it's
just it's it's crazy, so that all that stuff needs
to just go away.

Speaker 1 (02:19:20):
So there's micro love.

Speaker 5 (02:19:22):
It couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more?

Speaker 7 (02:19:27):
Yeah, probably to you know, staying in college football too
a little too for you know.

Speaker 6 (02:19:33):
The first one is.

Speaker 7 (02:19:34):
You know Mario Crystal Ball and Miami and listen, this
isn't you know. Of course it affects, you know, people gambling,
that's that.

Speaker 6 (02:19:43):
But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about I.

Speaker 7 (02:19:45):
Don't know how more guys don't get punched in the
face in the handshake line, you know what I mean.
And that's I think the first time it happens that
it's gonna then then people are gonna be like, oh shit,
what just happened?

Speaker 6 (02:19:55):
You understand? Fourth and two twenty seconds.

Speaker 7 (02:19:57):
Left, dump by tent hand the ball off all right,
it's you know it shouldn't.

Speaker 6 (02:20:01):
You know this isn't they want to tell you.

Speaker 7 (02:20:04):
And Lewis Ridick was talking about it, so that's what
probably led to the you know, you know, flaming the
fire like, oh, we need we need style points.

Speaker 6 (02:20:11):
We got to look good to the committee.

Speaker 7 (02:20:13):
You know, you beaten by Virginia Tech by seventeen ain't
getting you into the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (02:20:17):
I got news for.

Speaker 7 (02:20:18):
You, okay, So whether you one by ten or seventeen one,
gonna do it right. But at the end of the day,
you look like a jackass and a scumbag. It's a
scumbag move, all right. So it's just I got no
time for it, and I cannot wait for the day
that the guy snaps.

Speaker 6 (02:20:35):
I'm hoping for it.

Speaker 7 (02:20:36):
I notice State troopers that come in and they they're there,
they're behind each coach, right.

Speaker 6 (02:20:41):
But you know they don't know what. You know. You
can get one off.

Speaker 7 (02:20:43):
You can get a handymaker off, dude, all right, And
I'm gonna and I'm gonna love the day that it happens,
right because it's it's it's it's ridiculous, right, you know,
clean it up, dude, Clean your life up. Man, that's
the game's over. Knock it off, right, and uh.

Speaker 6 (02:20:59):
The second one, same thing. College.

Speaker 7 (02:21:00):
You know, college football guys are getting paid now.

Speaker 6 (02:21:03):
So we try not to pick on kids.

Speaker 7 (02:21:05):
You know, his stats wind up, you know, being okay
and I'm a huge Haynes uh Haines King guy, but
a horrible job by not not just him, but the
Georgia Tech team. You know, chance to be the ACC
title game at home and you get absolutely doored. Uh
you fall behind twenty eight and nothing to a pit
team that just got rolled by Notre Dame. We know

(02:21:25):
Notre Dame is good, but just.

Speaker 6 (02:21:28):
It's it's a terrible performance at home. And then you know,
you climb back in it.

Speaker 7 (02:21:31):
And then he throws a monster pick, you know, a
ninety nine yard pick as they're going in to to
make that thing interesting. So you know, he came up short,
you know, real small for a guy that's led them
for years, you know what I mean. And he's a
tough kid and he's a good football player, you know
what I mean. It's just you know, came up real,
real small, and like I said, we try not to

(02:21:51):
you know, to throw too much state at these kids,
you know, because they are kids.

Speaker 6 (02:21:56):
But you're getting paid now.

Speaker 7 (02:21:57):
So when you get paid, you're you're you know you're
gonna get that. You're gonna get that same scrutiny to
pro guys get all right, Oh, by the way, that's it.

Speaker 5 (02:22:08):
They're they're setting themselves up though, for an interesting playoff here,
because everyone's got out or out, everyone's got Notre Dame
ranked higher than Miami. But yet Miami's beaten Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (02:22:19):
So that's that's a a couple other of.

Speaker 5 (02:22:23):
Them in there in the top ten, top twelve that
they have rated higher, has lost to the team leading.

Speaker 2 (02:22:30):
Then they're gonna get themselves out of control because if
they're if they're gonna that's that's famotism man, right, Like
if you beat somebody had the head, it shouldn't even
be up for the bate.

Speaker 1 (02:22:39):
I don't care when you did it. I don't care
if you.

Speaker 5 (02:22:42):
Is right now it's Notre Dame. They have Notre Dame
ranked above Miami, Like I.

Speaker 1 (02:22:49):
Mean, I don't care where I came to play that.

Speaker 2 (02:22:50):
Either I don't care if that's played in the beach
in Miami or or you know, in the guy and
a god damned church of Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (02:22:57):
I mean, I don't care where it's played at.

Speaker 2 (02:23:01):
Yeah you be, you be the team head to head
that should go into consideration big time because.

Speaker 5 (02:23:06):
If you look at Notre dames wins, they don't compare
to Miami's wins. They not being anybody.

Speaker 2 (02:23:11):
No, no, you can count you can say, be pitt.
But again, if you really watch that game, it's not
even on the same to be on the same field
as that, not even like fair like it's just the
size difference of the players.

Speaker 1 (02:23:23):
You could just tell, like is this is a D
one team, you.

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
Know what I mean, fid D one the night like
they they bring in the JV squad and like the
speed everything was just different and.

Speaker 1 (02:23:36):
Yeah, I mean it's just different.

Speaker 2 (02:23:38):
So but listen, it's still a great time of the
year coming up, you know, and happy thing. Well you know,
I'll see everybody Wednesday night, but happy thanks Giving. Everybody
out there that you know isn't joining Wednesday because I
know a lot of you will be out, you know,
Simpity Simpity two domes with the big film.

Speaker 5 (02:23:58):
He always looks for a time to go out.

Speaker 1 (02:24:00):
Got goud just hunts for one, you know, I mean tuesdays.

Speaker 2 (02:24:05):
I had to check into that just to let us know,
like you know, I'll be back for a three week stretch.
It looks like he said after the bend of tonight,
gotta yeah, you know, going out tonight. Like he's like
like it's just funny. Like he's the only guy who
can like he just and I'll just crumb him.

Speaker 1 (02:24:21):
He's the only guy.

Speaker 2 (02:24:22):
He can't go out and like be like a four
year old and have like three to five drinks and
just be like, Ye'll come home. I'll be good, you
know what I mean. He's got to go out and
get absolutely annihilated, you know what I mean, like like
he's twenty, Like he's not even twenty one yet, Like
he's twenty, Like I just want to yeah, wow, like
the final Ones, by this, by this extra drink, like

(02:24:42):
I mean, not allowed to have it like this.

Speaker 1 (02:24:44):
I mean, oh my, I love you, big fella, and
I don't so we'll see you. We'll see when we
see it. But the great show.

Speaker 7 (02:24:54):
Boy, Yeah, I yeah, on the way out, I got
I got another one. I mean real quick, it'll take
two seconds.

Speaker 6 (02:25:00):
Uh it's and I said it in my audio.

Speaker 7 (02:25:02):
I mean the fact that we gotta call this guy
or the normal or are you other people that follow
the rules. No, other people gotta call you know, other
people that follow the rules. Gotta call him arch Madning
is besides me, will never happen in my household. He's
fucking Archie. And if you didn't want to fucking be
in your fucking you know you want to be, you

(02:25:23):
didn't want him to be in Grandpapa's fucking footsteps, then
you should have named him fucking Bill.

Speaker 6 (02:25:27):
All right, that's what I got. No fucking time.

Speaker 7 (02:25:30):
For arch No fu you fucking seal and share arch
arch the fucking Archie.

Speaker 6 (02:25:38):
That's who you are.

Speaker 7 (02:25:38):
You're Archie, fucking Madding, fucking the third, the fucking second.
I don't give a fuck fuck out of here.

Speaker 6 (02:25:48):
Bring that bullshit to somebody else.

Speaker 10 (02:25:49):
Cooper, Sorry, great, great, get scared off by that almost lost.

Speaker 5 (02:26:05):
We woke that ash.

Speaker 6 (02:26:07):
I'm gonna say hot mad it for me.

Speaker 2 (02:26:09):
But because he's been on his back ever since the losses,
because that's what Gared.

Speaker 1 (02:26:15):
Was him and four down stop Yeah, him and.

Speaker 2 (02:26:18):
Jared were over five on fource him, Gared and Dan.
So he's you know, he hibernated. He's snuggling out today,
so I'm sure give it, give it, give it, give
it another week and it'll be back pomp in Wednesday night.
You know when we got the Bears, and that helps him, right,

(02:26:39):
so he'll pop in, he'll pop.

Speaker 5 (02:26:41):
And that's another quick one that the supposed Bears Eagles alliance. Right.
We took care of the NFC North, they took care
of the NFC East. We didn't need your help, Bears.
We didn't need your help. But go ahead, do you?

Speaker 1 (02:26:55):
Yeah, I was thinking I do.

Speaker 2 (02:26:59):
We're out. We're out. We love y'all. Fuck you, Twitter,
everybody else. You're cool.

Speaker 1 (02:27:04):
Every Thanksgiving, Every Thanksgiving. See you next Sunday. I'll see
you Wednesday. We are

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