Birds Offense Aims to Soar High at Home! Eagles vs Rams Week 3 Game Preview & Predictions

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as well, and we're gonna preview the whole thing. Tis
a normal pole question. Let's get right into it. Jalen

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Hurts will throw at least two touchdown passes this Sunday
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Absolutely agree. I actually couldn't agree more to a pole

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question right now, I think, And the reason I agree
is because he's like the King of Like we talked
about it last week, right, like the King had used
himself as motivation finding things. That's what greatness does, or
tries to do at least, And I think with that

(01:59):
right there alone, I could see him at a presser
after the game saying what he did last year? Did
you guys like that? Was that good enough for you?
But I could see that a lot of scrutiny coming
with the passing game, and rightfully so, I was Kevin
Paluta the guy for the job. I don't know right
this is Brian Johnson two point zero right, and we're
winning by We're winning with you know, smoking mirrors right now,

(02:21):
and we better figure it out. I don't know. I
would hope not. I would hope that this is this
is a guy that's been here long enough and just
needs to get in a rhythm calm plays. But I
also know my quarterback always, I think I do, and
after this point in time, I think we all know.
And he loves proving people wrong. So I could absolutely

(02:44):
see this in a game where you know, I think
you can expose expose the rams in the running game
all day, and we've already done it twice. Right, But
I don't think they're they're you know, their secondary is
all that great either. I think they're good. They're young, right,
they're better, right, but I don't know how good they are.
Like that, we can't go with our weapons and get

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and get two toddies and throw for two hundred and
fifty yards, right, Like, I don't. I don't see that
as crazy talk, I really not. But I can see
now where his motivation as a player that just sit
on the podium after and.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Let's say I told you so, I.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Guess is the best way I can explain it is
that's what we're gonna get afterwards. I don't know. I
mean whist well thinking too, to be honest with you,
because that hasn't been good enough, uh in the passing game,
and I'm not here to I'm not here to burn
the house down when you're two and o either. That's
not This isn't ninety four one wyp. This isn't those
jerk offs at ninety seven five the fanatic. This has

(03:46):
been real talk radio for over a decade. Okay, we
ain't gonna run from what the hell we do over here,
and I'm not gonna burn it down. That being said,
is there concerns, I don't know. I don't know if
there's concerns yet. We got to judge stuff off for
four weeks periods, right. I need an uptick though, Right,
So that's where I go with the whistle thinking. I
need a little bit of a little bit like we

(04:06):
could still do.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
It, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I need a little bit like you we're good, Hey,
Jay's hell. I need to see it now. Okay, the
first two weeks I can deal with you sort of
feeling your way through stuff, you know. Now I need
the pass game to look the look sharp, and hopefully
it does. But I'm gonna use the power of Jaalen
Hurts of loving to prove people wrong. That's the reason

(04:29):
that he comes out and spins it around a little
bit someday. But we'll talk about the game war. But
to the poll boys, what do you say? Family out there,
what do you say if a lot of disagreements, a
lot of guys out there that still don't know this guy.
That's what it comes down to. If you're really disagreeing,
deep down, you'll know Jalalen like I think you do that.

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And if that's the case. If that's the case, if
we if we don't throw the ball around, well, then
maybe I gotta fire this guy. I gotta fire this
guy on the spot someday the right Maybe that's the case. Maybe,
and that's he's that bad as his job at it
of calling poison. He's not ready for this yet. That's
the only other reason. Because this guy does everything right.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
The prove it did.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
We watched it a million times. We watch his game
get better every year in my opinion, to a point
because now he works and now he wants to prove.
Then they say it is wrong and use outside voices,
let him creep it.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I don't know how you can disagree with it if
you really believe in jail arts. I don't know how
you disagree with the pole, but go ahead, please, because
somebody should.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Obviously, I'm gonna disagree. I am, I I am. I
am going to disagree.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
You're in for one right now, Tom, You're in. You're
in for one right now.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
I disagree. I disagree. I disagree for two. I disagree
with two reasons. One because of how well we ran
the football against the Rams twice last year, right. Because
of that, right, Saquon had four runs of over sixty
plus yards for touchdowns, right, and then Jalen had one

(06:15):
for like fifty in the playoff game. So we we
know that we can run the football right now. That
being said, I do think the passing game is going
to be better. I do think the passing game is
going to be better this week. I want to pencil
Jalen in for I'm gonna say two fifty, right. I
think the offense can put up, you know, four hundred

(06:35):
plus plus yards this weekend. Like you said, I'm not super,
you know, worried about that that Rams defense, that secondary
is not all that they're They're starting cornerback Witherspoon or something.
I think he got hurt last week, so he's out,
and the guy that they got replaced in him, I

(06:56):
forget what his name is. He was on the he
was on the Commanders years ago, and AJ cooked him,
absolutely cooked him.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
He cooked it. He cooked him out. He literally cooked
him out of the league, like he caught cut because
of AJ Browne.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
AJ cooked him, like he's I forege what his name is.
Dude's like six foot yeah, yeah, and Forbes six foot
like one. And AJ's got forty fifty pounds on the
guy and he's just bullying. I'm pretty sure. Like he
caught that like the fourth down player or whatever, or
like it was a deep ball and like we're like,
why are we throwing this football right now? And like
AJ just beat him deep. So I expect to see

(07:34):
a little bit out of, you know, that passing game.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Now.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
I listening to Petullo the last Like I think he
talked yesterday, he was a little like, yeah, I've been
kind of vanilla with the play calling. I need to
be a little bit better there. I wanted to have
a couple of shot plays, but they just they didn't
end up happening the last couple of weeks, so I
think he's gonna end up being a little bit more aggressive.

(07:59):
But you know, in both of those games we played
the Rams last year, we didn't need to throw the football.
Not to say that we won't do it this week, right,
but you know what the Eagles do. The Eagles run
the football, right. So I mean as I was at
the I was at the Divisional round playoff game, right,
I watched Saquon, you know, running through the snow. I
watched Jalen make that forty to fifty yard run. Those

(08:22):
spots are going to be there, right, but you gotta
I think those I know, I know for a fact
that the Jalen one came off an RPL and I
hadn't really seen a whole lot of that the first
two weeks. So I would like to see that more.
You know, bring those linebackers in and more so, have
you know, the receivers in one on one coverage because
if you're if you watched the game last week, they

(08:44):
were rushing, the Chiefs are rushing four or five, and
then they would they like plait It's like either seven
or eight and you're like Jalen, they had to get
the ball out really fast or there was just nowhere
to throw the football right, So we need to be
able to scheme them up a little bit easier. But
I think since the Rams are press, probably gonna have
to stack the box. It will leave some some openings
for Jaylen to till the football. You will have a

(09:06):
touchdown pass this week. I just don't know if it'll
be two or more.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more. It's for a slightly
different reason, but I definitely agree that. No, I I agree.
I'm saying I disagree, but I couldn't agree with Ryan Moore.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
That that connected with Ryan is my point.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yes, well, I don't think so. I think I think
in this case, I think you're wrong. I mean, I
think everything you said is totally factual and could totally
see that happening. The other thing is, if you look
outside of twenty twenty three, that year where they started
off hot right, that year felt like kind of the

(09:51):
end of last year where you felt like you actually
were the best team in the league, and then James
Bradbury said hold my beer. But then after outside of
that one year, they've really had slow starts. The Syriana year.
The first year he talks about flowers. Then they come up.
You know, then twenty twenty three, that year was great. Remember,

(10:14):
twenty twenty four is a team that everyone's comparing to.
Now slow, how about the best team we've all ever seen?
Two and two. I'm predicting because I think they're gonna
sneak out of this one with another Chiefs win. I
said it last Wednesday. I'll say it again. They are
the new Chiefs. They are the new Patriots kind of team.
They're probably not going to score thirty They're probably not

(10:35):
gonna score twenty eight points a game, but they're gonna
out Chiefs per se the Rams this week they lose
on the road to Tampa. We all see that coming
at home at Denver or sorry in the link against Danver,
when the entire country, with all their hatred towards us,

(10:56):
says we have fallen off. This is twenty twenty four
all over again because we just lost to the Bucks.
There it goes, there we are. That's Jalen's coming out party.
That's when he comes on the podium. That's when he
says that. And I really like it's kind of a
weak argument. I only say that because when is the

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last time they've trotted out on week three and have
just looked like a complete product. They just haven't. And
here's the other thing I'll say in terms of concern,
I was just going there because I think the AJ
thing concerns me. But I think this should be brought up,
point me out if I'm wrong. I don't like know

(11:38):
this is a fact. But there's three deep balls on
the top of my head week one to John Dotson
and then Smitty last week had two. One where he
dropped and it kind of looked like he got hurt
and he got back up, and then the one that
he caught. I don't remember a single time that AJ
Brown was even running a route down the field where

(11:59):
he was a primary target. You know, you get what
I'm saying here.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm just thinking he's not healthy one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's where I'm going. I agree.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I don't mean Wilson someday like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I completely agree. I just it's it's a question like
that's my If I were to have a concern, that's
my concern. But other than that, I'm not concerned.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, because there's no way it's an offensive coordinator you're
that much of the more on than not to not
take fifty fifty shots with aj Brown and unless internally
you know he's not one hundred percent healthy. And that's
where we're at right now. Handies are an issue, man, Handies.
Handies don't go away like that. And then and then
it's the confidence in the handy. It's a confidence to

(12:41):
drive right and not feel like you're gonna come up lame.
And I think when you're in a situation like that,
like I even think on the crosser, that should have
been a first down, all right at the end of
the game.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh absolutely, chee.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
He did Brown last year, might take that another might
take that to the ass right one on one on one,
guy on one with a corner and his strength and speed.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well, we watched them. We watched him do it in
that in that Green Bay game. You know, I don't remem,
I don't remember. I don't think he took it all
the way to the house, but like he had a
crosser and he went like fifty yards.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I felt like he did that once once a game.
Felt like he did it once a game. And that's huge.
That's that's that's huge.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Yeah, Now that that annoys me. I was saying this
like I was staying in toe of my buddies.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I'm like, a.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Slant to AJ Brown should get you fifteen yards every
single time you do it, right, because he's gonna win
the breakoff ninety five percent of the time. Right, He's
gonna catch the ball seven eight yards down the field
and he's gonna get at least five yards. It's a
guaranteed first down, or it should be if you just
run a quick slint, Like I don't understand why you
don't run that play seven times a game.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
And even that's like you forget it, dude, Like this
is simple, man, Like you got a running back in
a quarterback that can run, So this is this is
simple r pos all day and slant and go city.
I mean this is this is an easy offense. I
could do it for my goddamn couch. Like this is easy.
It's like Madden, like you could pop up you could
be Techno super Bowl. You could pop up six goddamn

(14:11):
plates and I'll run them all game until somebody wants
to stop me. And that's what these guys are, idiots,
Like I don't even need motion, I need an RPO
format like are we okay? We did it with Nick Foles.
Every time Janalen does an RPO, we get completions like
we do. Stuff opens up the second you go into
his goddamn belly and you're you're sticking where you can

(14:32):
run too, and you throw out of it. Who's stopping
that consistently when you haven't got that? kJ Braddicker run
slants at that level, Deavonte Smith who can obviously fifty
to fifty ball you two right, or AJ fifty to
fifty and Devonte's running slants or Dallas whoever? When that
like Howard linebackers able to cover stuff ten fifteen yards

(14:52):
down the field when you're in, when you're in that
kind of we're that kind of offense is being round
at them with those types of players.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
How I got mad?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I how I play defense? I play defense at points
in my life. I don't know how I'm stopping that
because I got to make a business decision. Now make
a bit decision. There's no middle ground here, there's no
disdained flat point. I either got to play it or
I got to drop.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
But that's part of what AJ said, like after the game,
which kind of makes me feel like they're just trotting
him out there anyway because he can. He's healthy enough
to play. It's like, look, even if I do what
I just did against Kansas City, one of those safeties
is still dropping my way one hundred percent of the time.
So he's really just a decoy in itself, even if
he's not getting the ball. But we just there's no

(15:43):
answers right now at all.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean going back to saying like, you
don't really need motion. The Eagles ran the most motion
in the league last year. I think it's either the most.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I love I love motion. But my point is the
rplays motion in south right because it's just movement, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, but I love it.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I love what Calimore did. I mean, like you knowed right,
I mean, call Moore was was motion city. And then
what you do is you get your guys in the
matchups you want. But now let's take it all.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Let's I just gave a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
And dono credit. Okay, so now I'm gonna double down
on some ship the great one though at the line
of scrimmage, I need him to be better, Okay, I
need him to get out of these huddles quicker. So
you want to tell me my my week one and
week two issues is where you're getting in a line
of scrimmage with twelve seconds left, I can't check to anything.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, last week it was a lot less.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, you want to know why I'm not successful because
my quarterback doesn't have an opportunity to figure out what
they're in. And you want to do that against the
SPA defense. Good luck, good luck because most defenses you
ain't gonna really figure it out. You ain't figuring out
what he's doing. But my point of that is you
can't get up to the line of scrimmagely expect to
be able to check in the stuff you want to
check into. The expect to be able to run motions,

(17:04):
et cetera, to get guys in matchups that you're looking for,
and haven't been able to do that. So they need
to clean that up a sap. They got no coallee
for that. I got a quarterback that's been doing this
a sup bow MVP. Let's knock off the bullshit around here.
Everybody not called the bullshit because that tells me are
we keeping the main thing? The main thing? How the
hell at home or we not have to line a
shrimmage with twenty plus seconds on the clock and being

(17:27):
able to decipher the whole country. How I don't know,
because what do we do? We get Japanese caught in
Like is Kevin Petolo?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Is he some?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Is he some American Japanese guy? He's speaking fluent Japanese.
He speaks no English. He needs to trail it. What
is happening? I need I need clearance on this because
I guarantee no in the goddamn Novercare complex, I'd even
have to maybe somebody asked it. I'm gonna venture the
guests that nobody's noticed it. Then nobody's nobody's noticed it.
We're we're just passing on by that. The biggest thing

(17:57):
from a quarterback perspective is getting up to the line
of scrimmage in time to be able to decipher what
they're running and check in the stuff. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Maybe I'm a first time football watcher.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I don't know. I've been doing it's along goddamn time,
and I've watched the greats do it. How are we
when it's the same offense, it's essentially the same system,
I would think, right, because you would think the system
really runs from your head coach down unless you're hiring
some out of the box offensive coordinator like we did
for one year with Kellen Moore, that you're gonna allow
hit system to play with mixtures of your own. So

(18:31):
everybody know where I'm going here, totally?

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Where where's it?

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Is it? The flowers? Like? If he the issue? Is
he just a bad offensive I know I would I
would say, I would ventu. I would say no too.
I would say no, I don't think he's a bad
offensive mind of any stretcher. You don't win Super Bowls
and go to two of them in three years. Okay,
let's just be clear on that. Is it the quarterbacks?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I hope not.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I would say no, So who the hell's got the
marbles in their mouth? That it's been it out in time?

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
His first time calling plays, so he's not getting to
play out quick enough. I feel like that's I mean,
it's right in front of your face. But I totally agree.
You can't watch the game. You can't watch the game
on TV and not scream when you're right there's like
nine seconds left and now we're set and you're on
the road and you're going against bags, and I also think,

(19:24):
you know, against spags, some of that underneath stuff kind
of helps you. And I don't think he trusted cal
Kata too much. I don't even know if he was
putting many situations to get the ball in the first place.
To my memory, so Dallas Goddard makes a massive defense difference,
especially against that defense.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
I mean, what had God with the underneath He had
like six for like seventy or something. Dallas had a
big week one in the first half, right O.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yes, yeah, he was our by far and most consistently
best receiving.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Point is Ei either way like he he was he
was to go to target in the first six catches, right,
six ketches? Yeah, and Jay, I know for a fact
that Jalen checking at the line was a problem a
couple of years ago. He was really good at it.
Last year he was really good at it because they
were getting the line and he was you know he

(20:20):
I vividly remember him doing this to aj like multiple times, like, hey,
you're you're going here and just throw a deep off.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Let me ask you a question. I got that.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
That's why I don't That's what I don't understand the
disconnect because like we we've had. Are you telling me
everybody telling me that there's much pressure to put a
pike go in? Then why are we hired in count like?
Like like, seriously, we haven't learned from Vic and Kellen
Moore yet, Like we haven't learned from going and hiring
a guy who's done it is most likely the better

(20:48):
avenue to go than hiring our first timer.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Like, I don't understand, right, So I think it has
a lot to do with Patole Moron.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
That's what we figured out to fair.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Enough, he might be, but we'll give him a few weeks.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
We'll give him a few Again, I'm I'm not going
to write them off. Look, look, look at the two
guys that have been the problem, right, the Brian Johnson,
right and now Patula Again we're two weeks in, right,
first timers. First timers that you got at the end
of the coaching cycle because you were in the Super Bowl, Right,

(21:25):
So you weren't doing interviews for offensive coordinators, right, Those
guys were with you through through the entire season.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
You're doing interviews in February.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
It's like you know, you're you're screwed by your own success. Right,
So yeah, again, I can't write the dude off. You're
you're two and zero. Yes, your offense hasn't looked Look okay,
the offense looked pretty good against Dallas to start out.
I think it looked pretty great, right now, then you're
second again, you get screwed over by the lightning delay
or whatever. You everybody slows down, everything, everything in general

(21:58):
in that game completely slowed down, right, And then you'll
go Week two against Spags who's been in the league
for thirty years. Right, So again, not gonna write it
off right now, you're at home week three. Let's get
after it right, Open the playbook up a little bit,
be a little bit faster, you know, maybe run some
hurry up, you know, if you get yourself going a

(22:19):
little bit, because this Rams defense isn't that good. Their
fronts pretty good, their secondary is not very good there,
the linebackers are eh, right, Like, you'll be able to
move the football as long as your offensive line can protect,
which they should be able to so and.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I agree, that's where I think that Jalen can get
the passing game going this week and bro for two
touchdowns or just have a good game. However, we want
to talk about that, right but as I think, because
they're not gonna they're not gonna allow, or they're gonna
tempt not to allow, say Kwan Barkley to beat that.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Right, they're gonna put seven guys in the bucks.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, and until until this offense breaks out throwing the football,
teams are gonna continue to do that, you know what
I mean? Sure, But I also think the one thing
I left out of my whole argument to the poll
guys was that, yeah, it usually takes our offense and
time to get going. Luke's spot on all that, and

(23:14):
a lot of it's just because we've got a new
office coordinator every year. But I think of what Chris
Shoanes said. I think it's bigger than anything we're talking
about right now. So when you want to take Jack,
we're not talking about media taking jazz. We're talking about
a Hall of Famer at some point, is you know
when his days are done? And Chris Shoan saying I
only threw for a hundred You didn't throw for a

(23:34):
hundred yard blah blah blah blah, and we won the
fucking game. Che says back to my point, is I
think that that that's where this week comes from, that's more.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
And I left that out in my argument.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I should have. I'm a moron, so I'm like camp
Patola now. But like I left that out because I
think the big I think the big thing of that
is it's it's another player saying something. I wouldn't want
to be the Rams this week, That's all I'm say.
I just want to want to be the the State
Lewis Rams. I wouldn't want to be the La Ram.
I wouldn't want to be any anything associated with the
Rams this week, you know, to go in the predictions

(24:10):
I think. I don't know what I think, but I'm
trying to I'm trying to fire the troops up here
that the offense can get going a little bit and
get going in just some consistency and throwing the football.
And I don't need to throw the ball forty times
a game. That's not where I'm going with it. I

(24:30):
just want to I just want the ball out right.
If it's not out that's fine too. But I you know,
I need those explosive plays downfield like we've had. And
those plays don't have to be fifty I'm talking about
chunk plays, you know. Fifteen twenty twenty five yard plays.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
We need those.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
We can't be checked down Charlie's and we begin so
much pressure, right, so much pressure, cause I think that's
what teams are starting to do to us, is they're
just going to bring guys all the time, and the
guys who they're bringing and try to screw him up.
So if you're not getting in a line in time,
you're messing yourself up even more. But that that's gonna
be a big challenge. Is I think teams are copycats

(25:07):
and a lot what spags did. I think teams are
gonna try to do. It doesn't mean they're going to
be successful, but you know, I see them loading the
box and bringing a lot of guys and we'll see
what happens with it.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I mean, if I'm Jalen, I'm expecting a blitz on
every single third down for probably the rest of the season.
I'll be honest, like, yeah, I would expect that forever.
And it sucks about aj Brown. I mean, he's think
about the Super Bowl, think about both Super Bowls, think
about the NFC Championship game last year, think about all

(25:41):
the and think about the Giants game last year where
it's like fourth and five, fourth, and four, fourth and three.
That go ball is like cemented in Eagles history the
last three years. It's been played time after time after
time after time, And like if you just get rid
of that and tell me that I don't have that

(26:03):
in my arsenal anymore. I mean, it's easy to forget
because saquanted so many big plays. You're talking about some
pretty big plays, big plays NFC title. I believe it's
like right before half, it's a two point game and
it's fourth and five. I mean, if you don't get that,
they have all momentum, they have the ball like the
forty who the who the hell knows? That was a

(26:27):
huge play.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah, I mean you know, uh, we don't know if
aj is fully healthy or not. Obviously we would like
him to be, and him being that opens the offense
up more like like you said, the Hammy's it's hard.
It's hard to be able to move with that.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, but like, hey it it.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
It didn't win the game for you this past week.
But the Davante goball off that like the Engage eight blitz,
you know, coming out of Madden. You know, Dante had
to come back to it because Jalen had negative time
to get rid of the football. But like it's essentially
the same thing, right, like, yeah, what's your go to
on this? Okay, here they're bringing pressure. We have to go.

(27:11):
We have to get this first down. We're not We're
not going four yards. No, we're throwing the ball deep.
We're gonna trust our guys to go win one all one. Yeah,
most of the time, they're gonna be able to do that. No,
it's it's one of the luxuries of you know, having
these skill position guys in aj and DeVante and obviously
you have Saquon Markley, So you can do both, right,

(27:32):
you can do both, and you need to see them
do both right because I do think that the Rams
are gonna be able to move football this week. I
do think that they're gonna score at least twenty points.
So you're gonna have to score. I would love to
see thirty this week. I would very much like to
see at least three touchdowns out of the offense. But

(27:56):
you're gonna you're gonna have to score this week because
they're they're the Rams are gonna find way to move
the football just because that second, that second corner spot
with whoever's got to cover Puka or DeVante Devonte Adams
a dory. Yeah, not looking forward to that one.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Uh oh look out, Yeah that should be fun.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
John, you said Eagles and coordinators or resumes team limiting itself.
Why can't they? Probably intellect football people decide better. I think, like,
like we talked about, the problem is is you're you know,
you're doing it after a Super Bowl and guys are
guys are taking right. So I think the only other

(28:41):
way you can combat that is going to the college
ranks and you know, trying to pry people out of schools.
That's head coaches that have been known to be really
good offensive coordinator. Like, that's the avenue you would have
to go in that situation. And then you know, I
don't know if you can even do that at that
time of the year. I don't. I don't know right.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Because it is so late in the game.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
But I think that the thing that we're leaving out
in this is when you have a veteran quarterback, right, Like,
you need to overcome that and then and I believe
they will, right, But when you have a veteran quarterback,
you have to overcome those shortcomings, but you have to
make up for Kevin for maybe Kevin's newness of the job.

(29:28):
You have to make up for some of the limitations
early on with that. Right, as talented as this offense is,
you need to then help him to and that's beaten guys.
That's picking up blocks. Like somebody said, the first play
was a deep all of aja, he was wide open.
But you know that's the one that Jalen Jalen like

(29:48):
fumbled it, calcul terror missed the block whatever, and the
play got blown up. All right, So I'm sure there's
plays out there when they go back and look at
film that they're like, Okay, if we picked this block up,
if and you're able to stay in the pocket long
or we have this, I'm sure there is is Like
there's there's too much town out there for these guys
not to be open. So I mean, I mean, these

(30:11):
are good, these are good questions. Like I I just
I think at that point of the year, you're so screwed.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, no, there's not a whole lot you can do
right unless well, yeah, I mean everybody who's in the
coaching cycle at that point who's worthy of being an
offensive coordinator or being somebody like that is either already
become a head coach or is going to speed somebody's
offensive coordinator somewhere else because they get that job in January,

(30:41):
right not you know, what was the super Bowl this year,
February ninth. Guys have already been in jobs for a
month at that point. Yeah, yeah, difficult.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I mean I also think though, that it goes unnoticed
that he was Nicks. He is Nick's got Yeah, he's
been so I think it's that, And I think I
just think Nick thought that, not only Nick, but Howie too.
If we know anything about how we it's that, you know,
if he feels that you're gaining enough power to kind

(31:15):
of change what's going on internally inside the organization, like
Doug Peterson, it's not gonna work. So I think that
the whole organization believed in him, But it really started
when because he's Nix't guy. He's been Nick's guy for
I think the majority of his entire coaching career. But
I also think everyone organization just thought, if we're not

(31:37):
going to hire this guy right now, it's probably never
gonna happen. Maybe he leaves the organization. I don't know.
I'm not saying I feel that highly of the guy,
I don't even know about him, but they do clearly.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah, And in eight weeks or five weeks or four weeks,
whatever it may be, we might be having a different
conversation about him.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Too, right, or I mean it could be.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, it could be the same one, or it could
be brand new one hundred.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yeah, like you know, obviously you made the internal hire.
But I don't even remember there being anybody else to
talk about back in February, Like, there wasn't another option,
not that I can remember. Can you guys remember anybody?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
No?

Speaker 5 (32:19):
No, Yeah, So, like there was nothing out there, like, yeah, right,
it was.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Are we keeping calling Moore? Are we not? Right?

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Well? Yeah, it was a matter of is he taking
the job or not?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, I'm sure there was other stuff out there, because no,
only New Orleans didn't have a coach yet, so I'm
sure there was other stuff out there, But that late
in the game, they probably feel more comfortable bringing in
a known and like keeping a known and an unknown. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
At that point nick Nick went out on the linn
to try to recruit him back too. He I remember
that before he left, he did, so, I don't know, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Like that that Tuesday or something, Yeah, right right before
the parade.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
He's like, Hey, yeah, what if you say let's run
it back. That's what you said, let's run it back.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
He's like, do you really want to go.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Coach to Saints?

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Are you sure about that?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I mean that was a questionable move. There's no doubt
about it. Yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
I'm hunting Saints every week and the survivor pools, so.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, I don't know if they're even trying to win.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
No, I think And like I said, I think like
we want obviously warned them back. We knew the writing
was on the wall, and you're sort of stuck and
you got to hope that this guy, this guy figures
it out right or whatever whatever's going on, whatever exactly
was going on, because we I don't listen to pressers anymore.

(33:45):
I don't listen to these guys talk. I know, you
guys probably do more than me. What's what have they
been saying about the passing game?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
AJ is the only one that would actually go out
and maybe say something, And he's been like, he said
something about how I know people are going to talk
about the passing game and that's fair. But then he
said like we won the game. That's all the Matt,
So I don't think that they're really concerned. Here's the
other thing, like we're two to zero and we have

(34:18):
concerns and we're only expecting this thing to get better.
The NFL majority of it not great. Let's just call
it like it is. So even if we want to
do what we do right now, we're a playoff team
and we're not gonna do what we do right now
the whole season, where none of us are expecting that.
We're expecting that at some point week five, week six,

(34:38):
something like that they put it together so they can
go out and win a ton of games right now
because the rest of the league is not who's concerning you?
There's a few teams in there. Green Bay's concerning me.
I'm just saying, not that we're gonna I'm just saying,
is you know threats Green Bay, Baltimore, Buffalo. You can't

(34:59):
bring up Kansas City. We just beat them on the road.
I'm just saying, like, who else is like a concern
to you right now? Stepping on the field, LA, maybe
if they put up thirty but our defenses, I'll go there,
like I'm not an a doory guy at all. Far
from it. Defense is too good to put like give
up thirty against probably anyone who it's too good. It's

(35:23):
too good. There's too much talent there. There's so much talent.
They are loaded loaded. They have one week spot and yes,
it'll be exposed at certain point, but come on, come.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
On, well, I think you know I said the other night,
and I'll stand by I mean, enjoy the dynasty because
this defense is set up for us to have a dynasty.
So enjoy. Enjoy, sit back and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mean, just think about the guys you have on
your team, where they come from, and their resumes and that, like,
oh my god, it goes on and on and on
and on. Even a guy like Wordy Jackson, who stinks
openly right now. I mean he was a college player.
I mean he did, but he was guarding nobody's But
it's okay.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
He did.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
He did, yeah, totally, no doubt about it. Did his job.
But I mean he had an unbelievable college career. He
had a few good years in the in the league,
and that's by far your worst defensive starter.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean, you got what two rookies starting already
mccouba had the biggest play two of the biggest players
in the game against the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
He's a problem. He's a very good problem.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
A problem. You know what, he did his job last week.
Didn't hear didn't hear about it all, which means again,
he did his job. He was awesome week one. You
found Zach baughn off his trash. Heap right. He's an
All Pro his first year and again he's just manning
this defense. Jalen Carter is gonna be a problem for

(36:59):
the next decade, Like you guys.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
The right signing.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah, he was there there.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Oh my god, he made an impact on his first
play on the field. Wilson.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Wilson Drack klat to me saying that he would have
an impact, and he's like, oh, what kind of questions that? Like,
you guys really think so you were morons on Wednesday night.
You guys are all morons. And I said, okay, tell
me a veteran pass rocks, you can't have an impact, guy,
we'll talk here for Sunday. Immediately when he got the
half a sack, the messes came flying for me like
no impact. Still no impact, buddy.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
It's just checking Lacoba and him met in the back.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
It was great. This defense again is set off for
years to come. They got younger while getting older in
weird ways. And what I mean by getting older was
like some of your younger guys are getting older to
turn to turn into some veterans coming into year three
in year fours, and those guys started to become your
leaders of your football team. And when you build your defense,

(37:58):
and three of those guys, we're a part of the
best defensive line that we may have ever seen in
college football. All right, like seriously, and they're here, I
don't know, especially when it's your D tackles, like your
two D tackles that football team are right here and
you win up the middle, and that's who's here. I
don't know where else we need a correlation from. That's

(38:21):
the whole tone setter. And then it just trickles. Now
you need that players around them, and they do.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
They do.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
They got another defense end from that from that same
team too. So I mean they got four guys up front.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
They were all on.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
The same team that was only to be the best
defensive all time. And you went up where upfront? And
then like you said, right, zach One wherever you got
them from. It doesn't even matter. The guy wasn't a
one hit wonder. It's none of that. Duken flat out play.
John Campbell is just morons on draft Day. That's how

(38:55):
jo Hot Campbell gets you. I don't care about an
injury or anything like that. That's because are so many
dry jocks out there. Then he's so much gold bomb
all right between their damn legs. That's why Jahah Campbell drops.
How he rose that, That's that's why. Okay, and then
let's just go on from there. You got a guy
pacing in sidelines that was also the middleman on the

(39:19):
Greatest Defense Week again in college football, that we talked
about in Nakobe Dean I play mccooba. Me and Luke
talked about that on draft night, and I think Ry
you were you probably talked about him too, But I
know me and Luke loved him. I think you did
as well. Ballhawks always around the football right Sunday's another
example of the football find and your your fingertips. That's

(39:39):
two times now that he's part of a takeaway in
the first two weeks of this season. Funny how that
translates from a power forward school funny okay, and the
corners we know what they are. We know what Cooper
and we know what Now he's not going Donamo bay
all right, we can take the T shirts away for
a little bit, but he's a damn all right. We
can calm down with the Gadamo, you know, and you

(40:01):
nobody's ever gonna catch off. It's a lot easier to
pull that off when you got that's on the other side.
But still, damn good player, I'm not that's not the conversation.
And Coop, you know, Coop is and then the yellow
fit in the room, which the Dorry Jackson. Who again,
if Dorry Jackson is losing you gains, I think you've
got bigger promise. I don't know one guy out of

(40:23):
eleven loses you consistent games, but we'll say he could.
I guess.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
He could without Jalen Carter, without jal Carter, Lamb.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens every week. I think that's
the other conversation with the quarterback that gets the distributes
to football as well as Dak Prescott does to those guys.
I don't think you're gonna see that every week.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
Uh see it this week though.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
All right, this, yeah, see, it's worse this week.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
It's absolutely worse.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
It might be worse. And receiver in football too, I know,
by smart Chase and everything else, you know, CD CD
even being a small guy, and I hate giving Cowboys credit.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
But I wanted I wanted him so much coming.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
I mean, I wanted want, I wanted Jefferson because I'm
just I'm just a realist. I watched one hundred catches
in the SEC and I said, hey, and I had
people on this show and people on these airways trying
to tell me that he can't play other spots but
the slot. And I said, what does that even mean?
I said, if you I don't care. I don't care
where he had one hundred catches at. If you've got
a hundred catches.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
In the CD, that's college and the best offense in
college football history.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I'm gonna try you out. I'm gonna see how you
are you take now, we listen, sometimes things end up better,
and I honestly believe this was better for us. This
is better for us, and I'm gonna stick to that.
So your mistaken in yeah long term?

Speaker 5 (41:52):
Yeah, well no, so you're you're one wasn't ideal. Right, you're.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Right.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Your mistake here. You don't have the Ante Smith, you
don't have aj Routt. That's your mistake. So they he
worked itself out.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I think so too. Oh neighbors, mois a problem.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
He's study, he's probably study.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
He's gonna have who knows throwing in the football?

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I mean we were are our farm system. I mean,
if you use your farm system off of Kirby Smart
and Nick Saban, you're a genius. Like the fact that
I've been saying that for years. The funny thing is
I literally gave you a blueprint, Hollie. I almost I
might sue the Philadelphia Eagles for success, like I might
think about suing them for their success, because I guarantee
I have clipped somewhere of constantly talking about going and

(42:41):
getting guys from the SEC and going getting guys from.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Alabama, and you know, Georgia a little bit came.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
On a little bit later in Alabama into their into
their run Bama. Nick was doing this ship for a while.
But it's like every guy that came off from Alabama's
rosters every years, like I would say, seventy five percent
of them held up in the lake. I got it.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I don't know how true that is.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's just me to spit numbers, but like it felt
like you couldn't.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Yeah, you're like a top three round guy, if you're
a top if you're a top pick yet. But yeah,
I remember for years I'm watching the Eagles on draft
night with my pops and like, why the hell do
we not draft guys from SEC schools? Why are we
taking TCU And we took J. J. Rod Stega Whiteside
Stanford or something like what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
We're not going to Stanford for football. You don't go
to smart schools for goddamn football parts. We know it's
hard to get into. I'm gonna steer away. I need
some idiots around, you know what I mean. Like if
I'm building, if I'm building a real football culture, I
didn't need some football players. Like we didn't go to
school to study math, like you know what I mean,
Like we didn't were not the way we show up
the school for Like we weren't. Oh it's great in

(43:48):
the classroom. Like no, we have a job. We have
a professional job on the damn football field at these schools,
most of them. The fact that we were even drafted
from the PAC twelve shows you're the biggest jackass in
the world. Like, yeah, imagine drafting defensive guys from PAC
twelve and am I saying none of them? Mark Is?

Speaker 3 (44:08):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Imagine draving defensive backs from the PAC twelve or the
Big twelve.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Back in the day.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Imagine imagine being like, that's where I'm gonna go get
my d backs from Every school is a forty five
points to night. What are we talking about? Who's going
to be good from there? Everybody gets sports?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
I got, I got I remember.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I got the sc teachers beating each other's asses up,
and and you know, guys are dropping in the third round.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Eighty third overall pick. I just looked up. Imagine drafting
eighty two players the starting Mike linebacker from what arguably
you said, one of the better defenses in college football history.
They're eighty two guys, eighty two guys that get drafted
ahead of him.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
We said that on Draft night too. Okay, we talked
about draft that's the biggest fall ever seen. Like we're
gonna talk about injury concerns, Like I said on Dranson's
that's a captain of that defense, Like, are we watching
the same game? But if you ask Kirby Smart, if
you sat down and fucking out of conversation with Kirby,
Kirby's smart will tell you that that was the leader

(45:15):
of my defense. That how he goes in the third
round is mind boggling to me. That's a first round pick.
I don't care about the knees.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Now.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Has he been hurt? Has been hurt? Absolutely right, So
you can make the case that well, he hasn't been hurt.
But you who was one of the guys that gave
his speech before Super Bowl? I'll leave the conversation right here.
I don't gotta say no more. If you look up
at the Eagles Super Bowl and who gave speeches the
night before, and if you saw who I saw, you
would understand the impact that guy has not even playing

(45:44):
the game of football for them right now, and that
impact that that guy has on your best player more
than Jordan Davis does. If you want to be truthful
about this, the Kobe Dean has more of an impact
of keeping jailing and check than Jordan Will. I know
these guys like that, my cousins, you know what I mean? Like,
I like, like, I know these guys, I know the

(46:06):
truth in here, and I know who the real leader
of that defense was. And it wasn't uh, the dude who's.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
On the jaguarres.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Okay, it wasn't him who was cool because his metrics
were cute, right, Oh metrics? Okay? Right? So how that age,
I don't know how that age doesn't seem like it's Asian. Well,
they can't.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
The forty yard dash? It's like, how fast is he?
How fast is he with the football in his hands?

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Is chasing everybody down? How fancy is he when everybody's
going in the end zone and he's chasing them down
Because we're looking for Leon left around here, looking from.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Bob BB's they go way back.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
But but the point of it all is is like
that's what happens.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
And if you're able to, like now, granted we got
lucky with Zach because we'd be killing ourselves if we
didn't have m kobeh, just.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Really think about No, we don't appreciate I don't know
if we literally woke up and we added an All
Pro on our team, unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
For me and you.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I remember that last summer me and you were I
guess over a summer ago. Me and you went at it.
You were like, yeah, you were. You were Zach Bond's
biggest fan. I'm like, who the hell is this guy?

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Who is it.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I'm like, crowning guys who haven't even suited up yet?
Who is this guy?

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I've never heard of him? Oh ship, I need you
don't remember that.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
That was a whole, that was like a month on thing.
You were like, oh, and then and then he played there.
You're like, oh, Zach Bond the preseason here he goes.
I'm telling you, I'm like, preseason. Let's calm down.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I kept putting the brakes on him.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Well, I love it, and I know I liked him.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
I didn't know I was, you know, I didn't know
daddy was home.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Oh yeah, you were. You were his biggest fan boy.
There's no doubt about that. I'm like, who even is
this guy? You're like, yeah, the defense will be great.
We got Zach Bond. Who the fuck is Zach Bond?
Who is that guy?

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah? Look at this, Look at the kid, you know, Yeah,
seeing through the seeing through the trees. I just saw
through the trees. I knew it, but I mean, I
probably the biggest NA Kobe fan around, so so I
apologize for the rant, but that's how much I love
the kid, and he was one of the guys you spoke.
And when you're speaking and you're not even playing, I

(48:28):
think it tells you what this organization, how these players
feel about the Kobe Dan So, I mean, I don't
know if you guys seen the pace on the sideline,
but I think it looks like he wants to play
and wants to play tomorrow. And that's gonna be the
most interesting thing is John Campbell with NA Kobe Dean.
I think the great thing about what you could do
with NA Kobe is you can limit his snaps, which

(48:50):
keep him healthy, right, And I think that's the biggest
thing and the biggest seller in NA Kobe. But the
problem with that is the guy who was calling plays
and was your Mike linebacker before the injuries, wasn't the
Kobe Dean right? Like you know, he was your signal caller.
Again goes back to the whole conversation where it started
on how much of the organization they feel about this

(49:11):
kid that that guy you know is calling the plays
right off the back, so I mean, just just unbelievable drafting.
And they're deep man, Like we didn't talk about Trotter,
who can play right. It's just great to have because
you went up the middle. It's great to have these
linebackers because like when you look back at the Cowboys
in the nineties and you look back at these great

(49:32):
teams and great defenses, what was the whole common theme.
I mean, they had great mental linebackers too. Now their
front were delicious, right, but they had the linebackers that
were sidelined, the sideline guys. That's been a common theme
in football history, Like the Ravens defense, who's arguably the
best one before ours. What did they have. I mean,
they had the front that would beat your ass up,

(49:54):
and they had guys like Ray Lewis And I know,
I'm drawing a blank on the other linebacker because know
he can. Yeah, I think if Sugs was more like
a d end I.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Thought, yeah he was, but I think earlier in his
career he was Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
You might be right, yeah, but either way, that guys
that were sidelined.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
So I mean, it's it's great to have a guy.
It's great to have a guy like to to point
in somebody who's in the league now and it's been
in the league for a while, and it's been a
problem for a while, and Fred Warner out the the
that dude's been a problem for years. And now you
have a guy and who I can go soun on
the sideline and bon and it looks like that John

(50:35):
Campbell could do that, you know, and when you get Ni.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Kobe was playing at like a Fred Warner level.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Before I do that, right, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Slight Yeah, picking Jacksonville was huge, remember.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Yeah, the one hand pick.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, that was discussing the pick he had. And then
like so, I mean, like the point of it is
like like n Kobe Mkobe was trending in a direct
in them like a franchise linebacker before he got hurt.
I mean he was having great he had he had
a great start to the year.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, but now it's like at all the Georgia guys,
I would expect him to be back the least, I don't. Honestly,
I don't really see him coming back because I think
he's for his own interests. I don't think so, because
he's not going to make the most money here and honestly,
like if I'm ag, I think he will. I think
some team is, especially like every year there's one team

(51:29):
who goes into it and says like I have I
hear you, But I just.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I don't think to what we think, Oh, we can't
do that anymore, Luke, because what we thought we knew,
we don't know anymore. When it comes to the linebacker
position in the Philadelphia Eagles, right, and how they how
they how that matters to them, right, I'm just giving
you a hypothetical and not hypothetical. I'm just giving you
an argument like I would rather let trotter out the

(51:55):
door and my third linebacker being the Kobe Dean and
oh my god, and you Campbell, but use Jaq Campbell
more in like a Swiss army knife instead, like I
would use Jaqu Campbell all over the field, and I
would my two main linebackers would be Zach Bow and
the Kobe Dean. I think I think you're usually you're
usually right on thinks you say this one. I just

(52:19):
think we just talked about it, nawseal like the leadership
and all these things. I'm telling you that, first of all,
he's not gonna get that kind of money where else
he's been hurt too much.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
That's for me, and you disagree. I think he will.
I think someone is good because every year there's one
team that just has a ton of money and they overspend,
especially on the defensive side of the ball, all the time.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Not a guy who like literally tore his knee in
twenty five places.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
I don't know. I see him getting money, especially he's
definitely gonna get starting caliber money, and I question whether
we're in a position to pay another linebacker starting caliber
money when you have jobs. And I hate saying that
because I love m Kobe, but I only do say
that because you can't bring back him. Jordan Davis, Jalen,

(53:09):
You're just not gonna be able to do it, Like,
I just don't see how you're able to do it.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
You can.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I don't see it.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
You can't because listen, I'll tell you you can because
I put all my money into my defense. I'm put
all my money in the defense. I'm not putting my
money into the offense anymore. I gotta go draft out
of the players as these guys get older.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
So what aj you're doing it? Like, you're gonna have
to make a big sacrifice.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
No, hear where I'm going with this? Right here where
I'm going with this, Like, yeah, you've got to make sacrifices,
but I'm not giving the Kobe Dean like eighty million
dollars here like No, that that injury is big time.
So first off, you got to come back and purduce
before somebody's going to give you money. That proves you're
ready to go. So I think for him, the best
move is a two year deal here and the show

(53:53):
he can play again, Right, that would be in his
best interest not go and you know, try to chase
it deal that he's not going to get. So that's
where I think he stays. But the other guys, like
I would have, I drafted these guys for a reason, right,
I revamped my defense. I got him younger. Right, So
here where I'm going with this. At some point you

(54:14):
have to go then bait and switch and do the
same thing to your offense. Like you went out and
spent money offensively on Saquon Barkley and aj Brown per se, Right,
so you spent money in those places before. Well, at
some point you have to then draft the OFFENSEI side
of the football, we put so many of our assets
recently on the defense side of the football. Like, that's

(54:37):
where assets draftwise have gone. So now you have to
be able to sign those guys. Why am I draft
them if I'm not going to sign the best of
the best of those guys to build the type of
defense I want. I have my franchise quarterback, right, and
that's how that's how right. I got to make sure
he has the number one guy all the time. But say, gone,
Barklay's here, right. You know, I don't know where I'm

(54:58):
going with this. Is like I'm not saying you're gonna
get hometown discounts from like AJ Brown or Devonte Smith,
but I think at some point you're gonna have a
quarterback redo his deal to make sure that AJ Brown
and Devonte Smith are here. That's my point. And you
and you have to still continue to draft scope is
repliers offensively at some point too, right, because you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I just think there's so many top tier talent guys
at their position on our team that when I look
at a guy like nikcobe Dean. I again, I hate
saying this. I love mccobe dean, but especially when you
just drafted a linebacker in the first round who looks
all but like he is the truth. So at that point,

(55:38):
it's like, I'm paying jay Leencarter. I need to make
a decision on Jordan Davis this summer. Nolan Smith's coming
in like less than a year. I just paid Zach
Pond seventeen million dollars a year eighty. I just paid
Davonte Smith. I just Landon Dickerson.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
I just paid Yeah, but none of these guys are
demanding that kind of money like Lanen the nobody's Like
Jordan Davis isn't getting land In Dickerson money, Like.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
No, he's not, but he'll be with twenty million dollars,
So how much is he expected next year?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I'm just saying, like, and I hear that, but that's
you know, that's where your draft slide is. That's not
what you've earned right in the leg, That's where your
draft slide is. But my point is, like Davante, nobody,
nobody on this defense of the guys we're talking about,
at least is getting Devonte Smith's money, like Nolan Smith.
I love Nolan Smith, but unless his sack numbers are
double digit, I don't know who's I don't know who's

(56:29):
going to go give him that kind of money, Like
somebody will pay him, but it's somebody gonna extremely overpay
if you don't win the super Bowl, Like, no, you're
they're not, like, yeah, Milton Williams could happen when you
win it, but if you don't win it, right, you're
probably not gonna have that happen to you. So it's
like that's where it gets touchy. But again, another guy,
they're not gonna let out the door, right, They're always.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Gonna no, I think I Again, that's where I think
they would be quicker given the situation. I think Nolan
Smith is a better chance of coming back.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Well, of course he does. But what's AJ's deal. When
when's a deal.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
He's good, He's good, Okay for a while.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
The way we're talking about that, we're worried about a
how we keep all these guys, Well, we got we
don't have.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
A lot of salary cap left.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
So where well, well that's where your quarterback has to
take less money for teams that keep it, not more,
not take less money.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
But restructure a deal to back end money. The only
way it works. It's the Tom Brady effect. It's the
only way it works, only works. My home is decimated
offensively because I don't think he restructured his deal, did he.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
No, they just refuse to draft or sign any receivers
unless they're like older like DeAndre Hopkins who looks amazing.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, but you guys get what I'm saying though, Like
I think.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
That's where you got to get your quarterback.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
To help you. And I'm you're not trying to take
money from your quarterback because he deserves it. But you
guys get what I'm saying. And I'm not saying he's
an animal. If he doesn't do it, you know what
I mean, he's a piece of shit. No, it's not
what I'm saying. But like if you if you're gonna
lose like your some of your best buyers and your
chances to win. There isn't many quarterbacks that care about
winning more, and what do you want your legacy to be?

(58:19):
Because more money comes with endorsements and does on the
football field. And I'll stand by that, and any smart
agent will tell their representation the same damn thing. So
if you're being represented, right and if you need, if
you need somebody, I'm here for you, right. But if
you if you want to be represented, Right, That's what
any representation is going to tell you. Winning will get
you more money than anything else.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
The quarterbackquisition, right, I agree with you. I agree with
you that, like Jalen would take you know, a pay
cut or a restructure or whatever, right if he had to.
I absolutely agree with you that. But the Philadelphia Eagles
in general have showed that they don't need to do
that because they'll just make their contract signing bonuses because
Jeffrey Arrell just pay it out because he'd rather keep

(59:02):
guys than get rid of guys. You know, it's It's
happened multiple times.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Yeah. I just think na Kobe's in such a weird
spot because like, yeah, he's so valuable to the organization
and the off the field ways. But then when you
talk about money, and then when you talk about Jalen
Carter being probably the highest paid top three at least
defensive tackle in the league.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Just don't over vale guys who are coming off as like,
don't we just talked about much we love the kid,
but we can't overvalue him, right. They think he's going
to get like big time Sarder money. Jaen Carter, No, No, no.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
No, the Kobe the highest paid defensive tackle.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Rightfully fucking so right, but like you know, maybe rightfully so,
I don't know, he's got to go have a great year.
But ef as the coordinator, we're acting like we're like,
it's just so cold. Lock guys, he's spent on somebody
week one week to his defensive coordinators calling him out
for not being in shape. I mean, I don't know,

(01:00:06):
and I love it, by the way. I love that
we got guys that hope people accountable, right But come on,
is that is that? Is that the high pig ement
tact going football? Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Will you be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
We'll talk after the year right now. No, I'm gonna
be an honest with you guys that week. We look, guys,
you gotta you gotta be honest with ourselves. This isn't
a video game right now, No, they're not. Nobody's back
in breaks up for that right now, nobody yet. You
gotta go have a great year again because this year
is rocky. I'm being honest. I think the year's rocky.

(01:00:43):
You hurt your value, that's real talk. One O one
with the extra ship. Because of the extra ship, you'll
you'll hurt your value if you if you're spit, if
he smit, you're not in great shape, okay, and then
you don't have a great year Houston, That ain't that
ain't that didn't even top that didn't even tackle money.

(01:01:05):
Now still get that to get it right. But you guys,
get what I'm saying, Like what you do, this isn't
what you've done for me recently. Like this isn't what
this isn't what your track record all is about, not
in this league. So unless you go have a great
year again, which I expect him to have, right then
you you ain't demanding ship like we can't over we

(01:01:25):
can't over hyper out like you he's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I don't even we are though. I mean that's he plays.
And now just even him being out of shape, everyone's
now getting to the quarterback because he's so impactful. Absolutely
so like even that alone, like we look like a team.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
We just sat here talked about the best defensive line
in college football history. Blah bla blah blah blah blah. Yeah,
nobody running from nothing. I'm making. The argument is just
about dollars and cents. That's all it's about. And you
hurt your value if those things are happening throughout a
year where you're trying to get paid.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
That's that's all my point.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yeah, there's no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Your value is still your value, Babe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I'm not telling you that he that he doesn't he
doesn't get number one even tackle money, but he maybe
he doesn't. Maybe he's top three. That's my point. My
point is, maybe he's not the out the top three,
you know, maybe he's not the outlier because of the
extra that's where you can hurt your value a little bit.
But but to your point, teams are always gonna if
you're super fucking down, and teams are always gonna pay it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Like the last point is, I don't know if Nolan
Smith yet or ni Kobe Dean has earned a big contract.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, well no, it's it's That's where I'm going. It's
not I don't even think that. I'm not even talking
Zach Bond seventeen and a half million years. There's no
way that Nikobe Dean is going to get that because
of his injuries. But like let's just look at let's
just look at what they did this summer. They wouldn't
bring back Isaiah Rodgers who made what four million? So

(01:02:56):
it's not I find that hard of belief. I find
that hard to belief. I just don't. It doesn't make
sense to me. Then you're gonna bring a new guy
in here and learn, like from New York, and then
he's gonna learn that it just didn't make sense the
end slaves like the fact you lost both of them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
With you, but maybe not the slip park, Like, but
maybe there's something about Isaya and that they just weren't
didn't like, I don't know, Like that's where I go
with this stuff. Like I put a lot of the
defense on Vic. There must have been something maybe he
didn't right, But I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Just talking dollars and cents, So if they weren't willing
to spend, and neither of those guys are making a
ton of money on a successful defense, and you're looking
at the Kobe and you're like, look, we just drafted
this guy in the first round. I'm not saying what
I would do. I'm just trying to predict what they
might do. Like it's kind of the same thing. It's like, look,
we put a lot of resources in the position. We

(01:03:49):
just drafted a guy. He looks amazing. We're excited for
you to come back this year and you'll make an
impact on our team. But let's be real, like, are
we gonna pay you? Like, I don't know, because they're
thinking about that in the back of their mind. And
that's why he's so good at what he does. We're
never in salary cap hell, he's always ready for the
next payment. So if that's a decision he makes, I

(01:04:11):
just wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah, I don't think anybody is. Dad's to be clear, like,
nobody is not signing Jail and Carter. We're just talking
abou like the extra stuff can can hurt your value
a little bit, you know. And yeah, I mean I
guess he Dean Eving too. But I can also seem
staying because again, it just depends what's happening. Yeah, I mean,

(01:04:40):
it's it's hard to it's hard to predict. We don't
even predict this ship right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
We Yeah, that's t week three the NFL season, defending
Super Bowl champions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
We're in the off season already here.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
We're too good, that's what it is. We just we
just win too much. We need some kind of about
see complain about something. Yeah, just like how you NFL
people shut the hell up with the toushbush. We've jumped
faalse start we did. You know what's really cool about
the whole thing is like when people go on TV
and they're like, oh, like, that's why you won the game. Okay, okay.

(01:05:15):
First of all, your kicker missed the field goal and
your startight end dropped the ball. But what's going completely
unnoticed in this entire thing is that you as a
fan base, are willing to complain about a play that's unstoppable.
Fourth and one. You're on side of the field, you're
free to do it as well. You decide to give

(01:05:37):
the ball on a weak ass halfback sweep to Kareem Hunt.
That got blown the fuck up, all right, So as
Tom would say, check between your legs, miss me with
that bullshit, I don't want to hear it. That's ridiculous.
You could do the same exact thing you want to
complain about the play after the season and like take
it out of and ban it. Fine, that's a whole

(01:05:58):
different discussion. While it's still legal as far as I'm concerned.
You could also do it too, especially in a spot
where you need to get a first down where you're
rolling the dice. I mean, get the hell out of
here with complaining about the play. Shut the hell up.
You had all off season to complain about the play
and get it banned and eliminate it from the league,

(01:06:20):
and it didn't work. So now that we live in
a world where it's so unstoppable, why do I watch
Bills games in the playoffs where all they need to
do is complete this unstoppable play and continue their drive,
continue their season and they can't do it. Why do
I see this dynasty with this great fat head coach
who has this great idea to go for it at

(01:06:42):
home fourth and one, he doesn't have the balls to
run it. Shut the hell up. All right, we're week
three of the NFL season. You're complaining about a short
yardage play. Look in a mirror, Look in a mirror.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
I love that people complain about it. I love it.
It fuels me on Monday morning watching Nick Wright and
these other like morons just complaining about this goddamn play
that nobody else can run. If you want to complain
about it so much, either figure out how how to
stop it or run it yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
There's no way to stop it wind up in the
neutral going they still can't stop. Yeah, that's what upset
to all these people. I think it's the most amazing
thing in the world. Like, like I just think it's amazing,
Like the fact that people care so much too, like
do something about it, Like you want to take the
slant out you got it's hard to cover.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Right, Oh. And their biggest argument for is like, but
you can't stop it, And I'm like, I know, that's
that's the point you do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
We do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Yeah, you can't stop it when we do it, but
everybody else who don't it can be stopped. So maybe
we're just really good at something in the game. And
like you want to ban it because the Philadelphia Eagles
are great at something like that's what's amazing. Like I
can see if every team was a hundred percent on it, Okay, right,
you don't want one hundred percent anything in the wake
because that's probably not good, right, I get that. But

(01:08:06):
when only one team does at the rate we do
it at, why does everybody else care?

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
Because they're not good at it, that's why they care.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
They're not going, Well, that's we know this that it's
a liability as well.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
Absolutely, yeah, we're trading. We're trading for a Denzel Ward and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Like, oh please please when the when.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
The Browns are that's fine, agin Capstake Billie. Absolutely yeah
they're getting Yeah lucky Lucky's got eleven strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Score predictions, Yeah, Blake, snow, go go send me a
direct message again, Blake, all right, how are we going
to go play baseball through this? How are we going
to play baseball through this? All right? You're wining, you're whining,
crying through COVID that you had to go play baseball
with nobody in the stands, and and when you there's

(01:09:04):
no like who you up next to? Babe, We we
were you so worried about Blake that your life was
in danger for playing baseball. But nurses and doctors had
to go the work would make a lot less money
than you. So he became the crumb of the day
because because you know, we needed baseball, We needed something,
all right, that's what we need it. So I'm gonna
stand up for the people, all right, Blake. It was

(01:09:28):
nice enough to send the message. And he's still wrong,
so you know, it's all it's all good. He's just wrong,
and it's Okay, you all have allowed to be wrong
and have an opinion. He's just wrong because he's he's soft, right,
and we near this and that's about Blake. But not

(01:09:48):
to night, obviously not to night. But yeah, score predictions,
everybody out there, line them up. Players of the game,
offense and defense. I'm gonna go thirty one twenty four Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Thirty one, thirty one twenty four. Sign we're back, We're back,
We're back.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
It's a coming out party this week, and they're gonna score.
So that's where my head's at. Like they they Matthew
Stafford puts up points. I don't give a ship and
now I say that. And if you're breathing down his
neck all day, then this can tell we go out
the window when they could put up stair.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
We saw that. He saw that works, We saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
So why are you jumping a round two feet low?
You want to say another mats.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
This, this umpire, this umpire has been given like a
ball low or a ball out the entire night. That's
not even close.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
I mean that was it was it? The yeah you're
jumping round, you're not close to yeah, all right, jumping
around you clown. Oh my God, all right, I'm sorry,
it's perfect.

Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
Yeah, let me uh it's it's gonna be twenty seven
to twenty three. Birds, We're gonna get it. We're gonna
get a We're gonna slight cover here, We're gonna we're
gonna out out out hook the hook point here. Yeah,
twenty twenty seven twenty three. I do think that the

(01:11:32):
Rams are gonna throw all over us in the first half,
and then Dick's gonna figure out how to slow him
down in the second half. We'll get a little more pressure.
Jailen car is gonna have a field day in the
second half, being uh being Matt Stafford's chest a couple
of times.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Yeah, b DPA real quick before Lucas, Uh, I used
to be worried about Dam Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Got to be worried and wow, we used.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
To be like last Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
Next week, next week, I will be predicting a loss.
I will be guarantee.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
And if you got I would love to tell you.
The Kansas City Chiefs have not lost three straight games
in the Patrick Mahomes era. Think about that. The Kansas
City Chiefs have not lost three straight games in the

(01:12:32):
Patrick Mahomes era until Sunday, And not only did they
lose three straight games, two of those three games we're
against the We're against the Philadelphia Eagles. So knowing what
I know, even more than I thought I knew with

(01:12:53):
Todd Bowles can kiss my ass.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
First of all, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
We just won a Super Bowl, We're the class of
the NFC. I am not gonna walk around here scared
of no goddamn pirate ships. You understand now, Baker Mayfield
is my guy, and they got players all over the
football field, so that ain't the conversation. But scared like
I was last year versus No No, I played those

(01:13:27):
games without two of my best weapons offensively. So yes,
if I'm gonna go down to the pirate ship without
what out with super soakers, Right, I'm gonna go fight
pirates with super soakers, I'm gonna lose.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
I'm gonna lose, John.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
But if I'm gonna go fight pirates with goddamn machine
guns and a J Brown Devonte Smith, I got a
better up. I got a better chance. So we're gonna
walk around here scared of anybody who scared. We scared
of some pirates. Get the hell out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
I am not scared, little spoiler.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
They're they're awesome. They're awesome. I'm not scared of them.
We're awesome, We're awesome. We we talked about this is
the this is That doesn't mean teams don't have your number.
And maybe Tod Boles has a secret recipe will never
go away and he's got it all figured it out,
but the rest of the league has no clue. Okay,
maybe that maybe that's it all right, or right, ain't
the place? We just don't play that well right? Maybe

(01:14:23):
I don't know, but maybe it's just nothing. Maybe it's
just a bunch of nothing and it's just those happens
to be some of our worst games or against them.
But maybe it's nothing. So we'll see, we'll see. But
I don't know where the losses are. So everybody told me,
everybody want to tell me how hard the goddamn schedule was.
I'm gonna keep reiterating I don't give a shit about

(01:14:45):
the schedule because everybody's got to play the Philadelphia Eagles.
This is different than the years past. This is different
where where we're hunting makes sense. What we're going hunting. No, no, no, no, no,
we're eating good. You're trying to find out, trying to
find oss and good luck finding us because it's where's Waldo,
It's where's Walter? Could we find ways to win games?

(01:15:08):
Fire up, man, that guy's not losing the rest of
the season.

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
A little spoiler, first first undefeated season since seventy two.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
You're out a game. We don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Oh imagine it's thirty for thirty. They just don't lose.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Yeah, then they'll be calling it the TOAs the post
Toush push era after we can't win shit.

Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
Yeah, yeah, we go fifteen to two next year after
going seventy to.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
Oh, I told you it was the touch push.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
I know that's but I just feel like after the
Super Bowl I can sort of put the demons to bet.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
That's how I look at it. I think a lot
of demons went to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Sleep that night. A lot went to sleep in twenty
having teens. The second one puts it all to bed
in that close of a time, whine recond one. The
second one just wipes everything clear. It's it's a it's
a fresh start for Eagles fans. This is fresh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
It's a clean slate. No, we can talk about not
having rings about any of its clean slate. Who the
hell we scared them clean slate and we're loaded. M hmm,
we're loaded, and they'll probably beat us.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
But no, I got I got. I got an alert
today from Facebook.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
The world will the Eagles Eagles Twitter will literally burn
it aground after we lose in damp.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Everybody knows, That's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
And then we get a home game against Denver. Yeah,
and that's when goes.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
No, I told you, I got an alert on Facebook
today today. Today was the day we played it in
Week two in twenty twenty eighteen, like the year after
we played the Super Bowl, or on the Super Bowl,
Seawn Jackson Jackson scores a touchdown. I was in Tampa
for that game. I'm like, you gotta be shipping, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
He couldn't stop. He couldn't stop fing the.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
End right wait right, yeah, right, Fitzpatrick. That was the
day the gold Chain ship. Like I'm sweating my nuts
off in the upper deck in Tampa, just like, oh
my god, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
See like before the season started, but before the season started,
I thought of Dori Jackson's that day, like that's what
I had horrors of that day, like That's what I
was thinking. I couldn't swore, I couldn't sleep it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Where you sleeping up these freaking bucconeers. Yeah, oh my god,
this is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
This is how it was a horror movie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
That they're awesome. And we talked, I talked about nausea.
Baker Mayfield is everything I thought I thought he would
like dog and I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
I love it for this, for the dog Pound.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
You understand, like I'm a huge Campa Bay fan when
they don't play the philadelp Eagles because I love it
that this gets shoved right off Cleveland, the Cleveland Browns organization.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
It is like holy Ship, I think, and I gotta
I gotta put on my Browns lens. Holy Ship.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I love Joe Flacker to dead stop starting it, Like,
are you guys? That's stupid?

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Are you that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Are you that fucking stupid as an organization and not
find out in live games who your next quarterback is? Like?
Am I okay? Like this is where I think I'm
losing my mind. The only way I freaking find it
out is by playing those two guys. It's the only way.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
There's no other way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
And you're gonna tell me what you're doing a fucking practice.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Punch yourself square in your deck.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Please, just please, I need to see a lot If
I'm a Cleveland fan, right, I need to see it
as an organization. I mean see it as a fan.
And then the bigger thing is is that I love
that they let two wide receivers and wide receivers dads. Okay,
you let two even wide receivers and their dads run

(01:19:29):
out your franchise quarterback. Oh my god, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Fold the organization. You know what, in the middle of.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
The night, get all the trucks, get all up when
nobody's watching it, move anywhere, they move anywhere. You could
tell you, you can tell me, oh, we're starting to Idaho.
Start fresh, start fresh as an organization. Because your your
colors are horrendous. Everything about the Cleveland Browns organization is

(01:20:00):
known to be horrific. It's horrific. It's disgusting. They stink
it everything all right, it's it's actually unbelievable. It's actually
how you can't be this band. And then you're gonna
you're gonna double down like you acton two quarterbacks, which
is great, cool, but you're gonna double them. I not
playing we don't want to say him. We don't want

(01:20:21):
to say him. We're good here, We're good with the
forty one year old Joe flackout, who's a puber teaman
in my I love him, I love him. Knock it off,
not for Joe, I love him for you, but organizationally,
knock it off. Please. There's my public service announcement. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:20:36):
I don't know if I've ever seen the Cleveland Browns
win a playoff game. I don't know if I've ever
seen the play playing a playoff game. Dare.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Yeah, it was Baker, Baker be the Steelers. Yeah, he
like it was a comeback. Yeah, it was something like that.
He came back.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
So they won a playoff game in thirty years.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
With Baker who they kicked out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
You let Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Junior and dad's
their dad's on Twitter run them at the.

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
Since fall watched Beckham Jr.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
By Yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
His and people believed.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
People bought into it. And guess what, maybe some things
were right, like maybe maybe some leadership things who knows
everything right? And sometimes as a as a player, as
a person, you need to be humbled, right, and he
got humbled. He went to probably the perfect place for
guys to go with Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford not
gonna let's keep this one hundred two right. Had had

(01:21:36):
a moment with the Rams where we had a little comeback,
right and was all fired up and it started to
feel like the swag was there again. And sometimes you
need the fresh start too. And then getting an opportunity
to go to Tampa, thought to Mike Evans.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Is a good time. Yeah, I mean, and I think
Baker was.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Always built for warmer weather climates anyway, for dome climates,
and I think it's a perfect fit. Sometimes it's the
perfect storm helps guys too, and it's it's not all
about how talented you are sometimes, right. But that being said,
you had you got a good run in Cleveland for Cleveland.
I mean, that's like a super Bowl. You should have. Yeah,

(01:22:15):
I don't know my Baker may, but you should have
like you have twenty preis mean, should be a prad
once a week in the off season, just to remind
people we want play off game.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
That's a banner year.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Yeah, well another pray, Well you got that Main Street
a gun, guys. Yeah, just off win.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
What are you guys?

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
No big deal. Yeah, we're gonna run it back. We're
coming back for more.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Yeah, more for first overall picks. They have to leave
the league in that. There's no way someone's more first
overall picks in them.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Because if you think about it, right, like, well it
could be two things. Maybe people do because there's such
an inept organization. They probably win games when they on
it right, like all the time, like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
You might be on that we're away.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Saying like the two hole and getting the other guy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Yeah, they could have Josh I mean, I love Baker,
but they could have Josh Allen. They didn't do that.
I think that played. I think they were like, we
should have picked Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
I'm fine with that. Pack Like I'm okay with that,
like even with you, yeah, right know today, I'm okay
with it because Josh Allen wasn't the pedigree that big.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
I mean, Josh Allen wasn't the pick like the Bills
took him because he was he was what like seven
seventh pick something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
The Bears in my homes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
But I was just gonna say that, I mean, that
is a generational miss.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
You trade up actually incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
You trade assets. On top of the.

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
Trade, you're taking a quarterback from the a c C school.
An a c C school, you don't take quarterbacks from
ACC school.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Yep, Drake May another one a C. I mean, people
love him, but it's like, what has he done?

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
Then? What Danny Dimes a CC school? Yeah, Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Cam Ward, I mean he's built like a tank. We'll see,
we'll see what happens. But yeah, he's built like great.
Do you see the week?

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Yeah, he's he's kind of a freak athlete. I don't like,
I know, I know Miami's an a CC school, but
I don't it doesn't feel like an a CC school,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Yeah, is anybody with me that I don't feel like?
Make sure to say this properly. Cam Ward looks like
a guy who won't probably ever open up a playbook.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
The JaMarcus Russell effect.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Yeah, like, I don't know, I cam work getting me
the vibes that I'm never going to open up a playbook.
The I'm not don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
I don't know much about him, Oh because he's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
I don't know, he thinks he's that good, like he
never has opened up one and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
So this is real.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
This is the Willie Beeman effect, not that JaMarcus Russell effect.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Will Steaming Beaman.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Yeah, yeah, I could see that. Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Okay, the Michael Vick effect, like my athletic ability is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Over over twenty seventeen Carson Wentz effect. I mean he
literally threw the two guys. Darren Sproles was like at
the end of his careers. I'm how he got a
super Bowl, but it was ridiculous how many times you
just didn't give me the ball?

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
And time, I think over time, when you talk about guys,
when you talk about guys that that we're having these
conversations about about maybe not being in the playbook, over
over a period of time, that will catch up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Yeah, Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Yeah, yeah. Not saying Kim Wore's that guy, he very
well might not be. I mean all I've heard is
how much of a competitor he is and all these
types of things. So you know, I'll have to I'll
leave time to dictate that because I don't want to
be that guy at all. Over what somebody does like
off the field that we don't see that's not up

(01:26:19):
for me to decide. I was just joking. But that's
the one like when you draft a guy named Mitchell,
Like when you actually have the goddamn audacity of an
organization the trade up for a guy named Mitchell. There's
certain things that I just can't help you with. There's
certain things that if you think Mitchell, a guy named Mitchell,

(01:26:40):
is going to change your franchise. I just think you
have him to pay attention. Guy named Patrick whose dad
was a was a big league baseball player.

Speaker 5 (01:26:52):
Yeah, I have a Big twelve school. You're just throwing
the football Mitchell. Yeah, and out of a basketball school.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Yeah, you can said I said that on Draft night
like that that wasn't like, oh, Tom, you revision it's
history and me I said it on Draft night. There's
a live video on our YouTube somewhere from the draft
in Philadelphia where I said, this is the worst pick
in the history of the NFL. It's literally the worst

(01:27:24):
pick in the history of the NFL. That's how much
I was adamant about how bad Mitchell Trubisky was. And
there were Bears fans around, and I apologized all I said,
I'm sorry that you're that in that f of an
organization that you think the name Mitchell will change anything,
like and if you if you've seen the size of
his hands, like, there's no way he's spinning it in

(01:27:45):
cold weather like that, and he's gonna need seventeen gloves on,
there's no freaking way, okay, you know, And and here
we are. He's stunk, okay, and the guy that go
after him is the greatest quarterback since Tom Brady and
maybe arguably one of the top one of the Mount
Rushmore's of quarterbacks to ever play the game.

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
Absolutely, so yeah, yeah, I don't obviously all you always
go back.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
To this, I'm a name guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
You can't me too.

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
Pat Mahomes isn't Pat Mahomes not Andy Reid, But.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Maybe probably you're probably right because I'm an Andy guy
and he's a QB whisper for sure, for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:28:29):
Like he's absolutely better than mister Bis.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Absolutely yeah, sure, I come a Pat Mahomes with like, Hey,
I'm gonna just find three guys behind the seven eleven
be like you like call him plays right, and I
think we're gonna be able to do something right there
if I did that. Basically the worst product we ever
in national football he's ever saw. So that's the levels
of this ship. I can't believe, Like I can't believe
I'm such a name that we have a guy in

(01:28:53):
our organization who's ten years old. Right if you told
me his name, I'm telling you he's right without ever
seeing him play. He's a stuck right, Like there's certain
things that I don't You can just write a name
of paper, but you just kid, just try out, and
I'm gonna be like, loot me see the name. I mean, well,

(01:29:14):
obviously let him come out, you know, I mean, and
see what he's about. But the names, names, not name's
not doing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
It for me, Like do you guys do that?

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
And then Luke, does you ever do you a name guy? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Like I mean, DeVante Smith just sounds like Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Larsons can't play like Micah like you guys, Mike, he
can't play. He's gonna be able to play.

Speaker 5 (01:29:36):
J j artheg Whiteside not Shi No, uh Cooper.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
How he really doubled down?

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Cooper can't play?

Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
When a guy named Quinnon is not gonna lock you
down on Sundays?

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Yeah, come on, I'm such a name guy, like you
could have told me like jail and recor it doesn't
sound like that's gonna take me to the next novel.
Justin Jefferson was like ringing h C the lamb, you know,
I mean, he can't Jamar wrong about I'm wrong about

(01:30:13):
Jerry Judy. But that's where I got myself caught right,
because Jerry's an easy one. What am I doing?

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Jerry Judy? Jerry's not No, I mean Jerry Rice T.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Higgins. That's the name.

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
Again. I just said, anybody named Jamar.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
I'm in, yeah, Jamar sign I let me see what
you can do. Yeah, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
Yeah yeah, mcob Doyle, Green Beckham, and I named my
son thinking about these things.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
I'm not gonna lie to you guys. Well I did not.
The way my son's name came was the first shot
by my wife. She said, there's a there's a Caspy
and c which isn't like Caspian, right, But she's like,
she's like, we're about Cassie it and I was like, oh,
and I just sat on it. And then me, me
being the sports junk guy im over time wasn't my

(01:31:04):
first thought. Whatever time, I was like, Okay, I see
it or no, I'm like you, I mean, it sounds
like I assume you can play. It sounds like it, right,
So I'm like, I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
But then it ring.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
It's got a ring, right, it's gotta it's got a rhythm,
like name's got a rhythm to it like Louke Brown,
Ryan with a million, You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
It's got rhythm.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
You know, Hey, it's time you or no, I mean
it's got Yeah, that's lit off the table, right, So
we're about Nate, Nate, we're not scared of you anymore.
All right, We're not scared. We're coming down there with
machine guns to fight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
The box doesn't speak for everybody. He does not speak
for all of us.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
Schedule next week, schedule loss.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
I'm not scheduling ship, like, I'm not scheduling ship, though
it happens like that's how we should be.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
Like, we're not scheduling anything. Who are we scheduled ship?

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
You're a freaking nervous you're all nervous. We got we
got the best defense walking around, and we're gonna go.
And what great they didn't do is travel. We're gonna
go down to Tampa. Look a bunch of scaredy cats.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Look at us.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
I can't believe I used the word scaredy cat, but
look at us. Unbelievable. Oh but look, did you give
a score prediction?

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
We've been freaking we just no, I don't think I did.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
This is unbelievable. We are issues. I mean me, I'm
an issue. I'm not gonna put this on you guys
at all. I'm sorry. We're eve them up and you
wet me.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
I love to have you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Uh, I'll go, I'll go twenty three to twenty words. Hey,
I think we're like, we're just gonna out cheat everybody,
like until the offense figures it out. We're gonna that's
what we're gonna do, and we're gonna touch push again
and then they're not gonna like it and it's gonna

(01:32:51):
be the same thing all over again.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
Is it like that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
It is what it is, and it's like, it's unfair. Yeah,
it's unfair.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
It's unfair.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Cool you allowed it. You allowed your owners to get
convinced by Jason Kelcey that this wasn't gonna happen again,
So have at it. It's first to nine for us
and nobody else in the league apparently, So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
It's really it's really first and eight.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Yeah, it's ridiculous because people are like, it's so unfair. Okay,
how about you take however much time we do, Like
a guy like Tyler Steen who's a new full time
starting right guard, how much time do you think he
spent the summer practicing that or at least watching it
over and over and over again?

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Oh yeah, can I say something to be paid real quick? Yeah? Yeah.
On the surface, that Baker could sit back there and
it was a shorts and a T shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Absolutely, But it all comes down there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
It all comes down there each week, the pressure that
you put on the starting quarterback. He hit that out,
Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
How do you hit that app?

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
Because he's a freaking how.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
Do he hit that app?

Speaker 5 (01:34:05):
Why is still in the game?

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Why is he hitting that app? One hundred and six pitches?

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
What do we do?

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
Why is he still in the game?

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
Robert You okay, he just gave you.

Speaker 5 (01:34:17):
He gave up three runs a glove one.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
The guy goes the game with a glove LA fan.
He'll never he'll never get late in his life.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
He's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Oh my stupid make way forty year old version, remember
of his chest still.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Catch it. He got seventeen gloves with him.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
It's seventeen gloves. It's unbelievable. He's got someone on his feet.

Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
Why why is he pitching there?

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Like? Why?

Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
Why is?

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Why are we? Why are we? I guess because he's
such a sheet because he's a lefty, lefty toy. We
hit it out off an ambidextrous guy. If you could
throw it them writing then left the every time, you
still hit it out. But he got that at the
end of the bat too.

Speaker 5 (01:35:06):
Right, Yeah, yeah, stupid, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
All right, all right, well we'll go players of the game,
Offensive player of the game.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
I mean it's gotta be if he's healthy, you would
say a j brown. So I just don't know how
healthy is I'm gonna say jail on arts. I think
they loaded the box. I think they try to take
a little piece of the playbook of what happened last week,
a little bit by the pressure, and I think this
week we beat pressure. So I'm gonna say he throws

(01:35:52):
for you know two twenty somewhere around there too, toddies,
and he's got like forty on the ground. I think
it's got to be a jail and hurts show this
week because I just believe they're gonna try to take
do everything they can to take away sakuon Barkley. I'm
not saying they will, but teams have had some success
early on the like slowing him down from the from

(01:36:14):
the big play, and I think teams are really gonna
try to avoid that this year of not letting him
get the home run on you. So I think it's
got to be a jail and show this week a
little bit, not big time I got in't you know
what I mean, It's not crazy, but I gotta score
in thirty one points, so Guy's gotta Guy's gotta Guy's
gotta score. So I think it's a week where we

(01:36:36):
have to we have to outshoot them to a point.
Like our defense is better than theirs, so we expect
to get more stops. But we have to have some
rhythm offensively. We have to get back to that and
maybe a run game gets it going right and then
it turns into jail and throwing the ball around on
him a little bit. We'll see how it plays out,
but we need to be able to throw the football.
On Sunday and two twenty and a couple of TDS

(01:37:01):
isn't like you know, I mean, I got Joe mont
Dana and I got Joe Barrow numbers like, That's not
what I'm asking him for because I know he just
plays winning football. But you know I need I need
one on the ground too. That's why he's my player
to the game. Broadly, get a toushy in two and
you get a tushy in two thirty. There's twenty one
points and you can figure out the other ten.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
I'm sort of right there with you. I'm going Jalen
two Toush push touchdowns one hundred and one hundred, and
I'll go one hundred and sixty. I'll go one sixty
throw this week and we'll rush. We'll rush for fifty,
rush for fifties, pretty good, rush for fifty. Two Toush

(01:37:45):
push touchdowns one hundred and sixty yards and guess what
we win?

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Yeah, guess what. Were scared to go to Tampa? But
we went every other week. Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:37:58):
I went at home.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
I think, Yeah, at home, I'm scared of nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Yeah, we better win at home. That's what great teams do.

Speaker 5 (01:38:08):
YEP. I believe that the Los Angeles Rams are going
to stack the box to stop Saquon Barkley, and it's
not going to matter because this dude is going to
run all over them for the third consecutive time. It's
going to be twenty carries, one hundred and sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Yards, two touchdowns done him before.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
No, no, he has I just can't imagine. I can't
imagine the defensive coordinator. You're allowing it happened for a
third time. But I do wrong before right, And I
don't care how we win. I don't care who's the guy,
you know, I don't think when you talk about players
of the game, I give a shit who's right after it.
I just want to win, right, So however that goes,

(01:38:55):
I don't care. And I stand by these statements. I
don't care how it looks some weeks, but if it
always looks shitty, I'll start to care a little bit. Yeah,
I mean, if it always looks shitty and we win,
I don't know. You start to get nervous, like, okay, well,
if we're never gonna put it together, somebody's gonna be
better than us. You can't. You can't be like the

(01:39:16):
Chiefs in Tampa every week because there's weeks that you know,
they lit it up to you know what I mean,
there's weeks every week, so you have it flow where
there's some weeks you gotta light up with somebody whatever.
I don't know what the hell I'm saying at this point,
but we're just shooting the ship, uh, defensive prior of
the game. And this is a big one because you know,

(01:39:41):
think about it, that's where their strength is is offensively.
So you know who's gonna Who's gonna step up on
Sunday and have a monster game? Yeh, I'm I do it.
I'm gonna go Andrew mccooba pick six, love it, I'm

(01:40:05):
gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. Three straight weeks
in a row. He's around the football and this time
nobody catches him from behind because he's been caught up
from behind by a quarterback essentially or by the side
and he would have been out for a touchdown, and
he was caught by an offensive tackle running nineteen miles
an hour that caught him for a touchdown. And a car.
It's like a car coming out nineteen miles an hour.

(01:40:25):
That's absurd, actually, but he just had the good angle
really end speed, which is crazy. But either way, I
think he's around it again, pick six off of Mattie Stafford.
I don't know if it's the deflection. I don't know
if it's reading eyeballs. I don't know what it is,
but it's happening.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
I'm gonna take the other safety, Wow, Uncle Reid. Yeah,
I'm taking the other safe. I'm going read. I don't
know if he gets a pick. I think he has
a couple of big pass breakups and then he forces
a fubble.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
He's sort of been. He's sort of been. Uh am
I A but that's not a bad thing.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
Yeah, if you're not hearing his name, it means he's
doing his job, That's what I mean. Obviously, Week one,
he got smoked by an awful penalty NFL history.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
That was a great play. Actually, yeah it was.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
He couldn't have done anything better.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
It was the perfect hit. But you know, hey got
a cracking penalty.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
So what's the cat?

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
Yeah, you know, but yeah, we'll take We'll go read
blanket ship. He's gonna he's gonna be all over the
field this week. I think he's gonna have a couple
of pass breakups. He's gonna force a bubble. It's gonna
change the game.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Yeah, Davis for Dorry Jackson Billy blue Ball as well,
that's tough. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Yeah, I was gonna say Rams. The Rams are scared
of two things. They're scared of watching Saquon Barkley's ass
as he runs past them, and they're staring at his
ass as he runs the end zone. And then they're
also scared of the guy that single handedly eliminated them
from the postseason in two plays. And I'm sure that
they've watched those plays probably fifty times over the offseason.

(01:42:14):
And what I'm predicting is is that he's gonna do
it again. So I'm gonna go Jaalen Carter and he
was saying last week how after the game, obviously the
suspension and whatever, that last week was kind of his
Week one and he felt a week behind the rest
of the guys that were out there on the field.

(01:42:34):
And I think that, you know, I think some things
could be seen as excuses that players say. I don't
see that as that. I see that as like a
very real life thing, like, hey, I didn't play a
single snap the entire game last week. I'm also used
to playing every snap. I haven't done that since March,
so I think he was kind of thrown in the

(01:42:55):
fire a little bit and he was playing in a
big game and he was playing, yeah, and it was ninety.
Let's just call it like it is. He's got a
home game against a team that he's dominated countless amount
of times in the biggest moments, and it's at home.
He's got his feet under him. He's the best defensive
player in the world, so we say, let's see it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
Yeah, I love it. Some other guys I think could
have big impacts or need to, at least Nolan Smith
does this whole defensive front really needs to have an impact.
Sunday Darius Smith obviously, and you know, jokes Hunt he's
been using a lot of like pass covers just too.
So it looks like they're using him as a little

(01:43:38):
bit of Swiss army knife as well, which I like
with Vic Stuhm with his personnel. You know, you got
to help these corners hold up right, So really eyeballs on,
you know, Cooper dejene and and Q to start with right,
and and you got to get pressure to help a
doory right. And that's where that's where pressure wins and

(01:43:58):
they can get pressure up the middle. Looking at Joe Moo,
you look at Jordan Davis and Jail Carter.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
That's it hard, Yeah, called it, oh ship.

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
Yeah, but not scoring five runs, well, well I'll say
that to night. Yeah, I don't think they're no.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
I think we can call this one good night. And
the only reason we're still on is because they're playing. Yeah,
I mean I'd be up anyway. So even at five nothing,
I'm not turn it off. When we when we're the
second best team in baseball. You know, if we're if
for a second to last, it's already been off. But yeah,
I mean really, I think the whole defense, so and

(01:44:38):
and Born and Jahada have to have great games. I mean,
you have to have great games on Sunday. You have to.
And that's the only team that's twenty four points. You
don't have great ones. They can score forty on your ass.
So that's where I'm going with this. I mean, this
comes on them and this offense have to move the football,
have to move the football, and I think they will.
Sunday at home, let's go. We're moving the football like

(01:45:01):
Rise at at home before the thunderstorms rolled in. So
let's get back to let's get let's get back to
some rhythm here. And it's just like a hitter in baseball,
that's offense, and in football, it's just getting in a rhythm, right.
Your timing has got to be good, your rhythm's gotta
be on, and you've got to get into things. And
that's why a lot of teams get in the rhythms,
go up tempo and just keep keep the good times going, right.

(01:45:24):
That's what they're that's what they're looking to do. Ah. Well,
I'm excited, man, I'm excited for Sunday.

Speaker 5 (01:45:32):
It'll be good again, we hope.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Yeah. Yeah. And I'm excited for next Sunday because you know,
there's a certain guy we work with. After we whoop
their ass too and we go to four and oh,
I'm gonna be chirping too too. It's gonna be a
lot of chirping. Now. It's barn any injuries, you know,
which you know hopefully doesn't play a part. But I

(01:45:56):
my my favorite Signings apartment is there the Darius Smith.
I mean, I I think that's such a you don't
find dructions this time of year, and the fact that
you had a guy and you sort of knew he
was out there, and he sort of waited in a
typical Howie and he goes and finds another guy that
somebody didn't want to pay money to, which is stupid
because you went up front and I was willing to

(01:46:17):
give him a couple of fuzzles and get him in here,
and like, I think it's gonna be a big change
to our defense. I think he's physical in the run game.
He obviously can get out to the quarterback, and I
think it just brings some physicality to the other side
of that d N spot where j Alex Hunter didn't
bring the same physicality. No one Smith does, right, So
I think you can get hurt in the run game too,

(01:46:38):
So I think the Darius helps you in the run
game as much as he helps you in the in
the past game as well. So I think he's like
one of those guys like Brandon Graham who's good at both. Right,
There's not a lot of those guys out there. That's
why I'm shocked that Detroit wasn't willing to give him
whatever that was, nine million, whatever it was, to keep him.
I'm actually shocked, and they want to give it to him.

(01:46:59):
In today's today his NFL landscape. Yeah, he's traded for yep.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Yeah, I'm not ready to. I know people are like
back on their bandwagon now too. I'm not really ready
to do that. And the Bears are just like the Bears.

Speaker 6 (01:47:17):
So come on, said he doing the Bears, and and
I think Cable looks better and you can take that
for whatever it is, right, he looks.

Speaker 5 (01:47:28):
Yeah, he looks pretty good last week.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
It's not gonna work out there.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Well maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. But nothing works
out when you don't have a defense.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
So I'll go back and they it could be a
Baker thing. It's just not gonna work out there. Like what,
It's just it's not they both need to just.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
Too much pressure. I just would happen to be missing
the hopes.

Speaker 5 (01:47:48):
Yeah, I just need him to feed Roman dudes that
I have him in dynasty beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
He looks great.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Yeah, he actually doled the punter, you know, don't I
saw that. We'll get used the punt and they leave
the waking punts.

Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
Yeah, he's funded the most. They've punted the most in
the league since they drafted the guys. It's like ninety
If there's anything.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
The first thing you do when you get drafted is
shut the hell up. Don't say anything, because you're about
to be playing against that your entire career and you
just got drafted. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:48:26):
Hey, but hope I don't see them the field too much.
So good look, good looking to see you practice, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
Yeah, that's the first thing you do when you get drafted.
Don't say a word.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
I'm not saying ship, I'm just saying I'm excited. Yeah,
I'm thanking the Lord and Savior. Right, I'm excited to
be here. I'm excited to get the work and meet
my new teammates and and let's go. Let's go trying
to win. I'm here to win, right, you use something
like that. Not enough guys saying I'm just here to win.
Let's go win. But billy blue blue bells. I was

(01:48:57):
calling blue balls, but it's really blue bells. But blue
billy blue balls, you know, he says, if real take thearius, Yeah,
I mean who won it at this point of the year, Like,
are you kidding me? When the seasons just started? And
how are more teams not looking for edge rushers? I like,
maybe I'm watching the wrong games, and maybe I didn't
watch the Philadelphia Eagles just beat you up last year

(01:49:18):
and to go and get like a branding graham Ish
type player. I think he's huge and not the leadership.
That's a different level, right, not I don't know, I
DREI is his leadership and I don't know much leadership.
You're gonna come in week two win, right, But my
point is is the ability his abilities to be able
to find that is actually crazy because you needed that replacement.

(01:49:42):
You know, you should have Milton in house, but you
didn't have the other d m really in house. You
have jail Its, who we like a lot, but he's
still roll man, Like, holy crap, we can't expect him
not to be still roll coming from a small school.
And you know, even though we had a really good
playoff runt, you know, I.

Speaker 5 (01:50:00):
Mean, realisticly, he didn't play a whole lot last year.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
He played he did play a whole Yeah, And I
think you move him to a secondary role. Over time,
I think he's better, Like it's not a shot of him.
He'll get to a point where he's a starter. Right
But as he's growing and continue to grow in year two,
the more spotch as a coacher, I can set my
guy off for success. The better, the better we are

(01:50:22):
as a team that's just one oh one to the
deeper I am. The more I'm setting guys up, especially
off front. You know, when you're playing a ninety degree
heat like we were.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Last week, they might get another guy. I mean, people
keep looking at secondary. That's where I would like them
to get somebody. You think they're probably going to make
another move before the deadline. I mean I feel like
you'd kind of be an idiot to say you'd be
shocked if they added someone else up front, because that's
that's all they do. Again, I'm with it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:53):
Let's do it, Edge, roshpur and Corner get after it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Yeah, I look at a guy like, uh, I don't
see this happening because I think he makes a lot
of money even though he's insanely old. But like Kalais Campbell,
maybe you want to retire as a cardinal and that's
the whole reason you signed there. I don't know, but
wouldn't it be nice to retire a little something.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
I don't even need another corner if you just go
get me another like good pass rusher, you know, And
I don't even know if we need another one, right,
we'll see, right, we might have enough in the house here.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Even if we don't, he still might add like, even
if we don't, I don't, I.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
Can see him in attack. Yeah, I don't know if
you have room on the edge now right, I just
don't know if you have room on the edge. So
that's where I'm at, like, because I like, I like, yeah,
I agree, I think he's he's showing a poll. Say
the kid from Georgia. I don't know how many snaps
he's gotten, right, and that it's a Darius and now

(01:52:00):
Smith and Jay ex time you're like, okay, unless unless
somebody goes down, you sort of feel good there. So
it's really eyeballs de tackle if you're looking to get
deeper in the spot.

Speaker 5 (01:52:11):
Or I think I think they even threw Carter outside.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
This is true.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
They did. Yeah, yes, that is true.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
I feel like I've seen him all over the field. Okay,
I'm not going crazy zero right, No, Yes, he was
a dark yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
Yes, well we said one of those one of those
three guys. If one of those three guys can pan out,
then they all three of them are worth it. Because
you know you weren't willing to go out and limb
on one of them. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
This one. Jas ain't ready and and I believe that,
but he's ready. In the secondary roles, there is a
great locker room. President car hasn't spen anymore. I love
that ninety three great. Oh my god, I knew he was.
I knew he looked good. Okay, now what about our kids? Here?
Is that his name?

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
He might be, he might be an actual zero, he
might stink.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Okay, that's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
Yeah, but then I guess that's where then Zadarius comes in.
And now, yeah, I love it. I love it. I
love it. I love what we're I love what we've done.
And you gotta believe if if a Dory can't play,
and neighbor so you can't playn't don't make a move,
you know they're gonna they got time though for that.
It's a week to week like.

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
I think you'll I think you'll see you can kind
of give a past week one because you know, hey,
you're you know whatever, kind of a past week one.
You'll see these next two weeks. You'll see these next
two weeks, right, because it's two NFC teams that you're
have the potential to see in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Yeah, with great wide receivers. Great receivers or really good
wide receiver tandems. Let's just say yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:53:58):
Well, I mean DeVante Adams isn't great anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
What great?

Speaker 5 (01:54:03):
He was great? Pretty damns greatcas great.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with saying there. They got damn
good wide receiver combos. Yeah, and all the teams were
playing that's I mean, can leave it a back and
soda way. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of them around
the way, right, and that's why corner is so important.
But Dory held. Dory played well last week for whatever
that means. Besides one play where he got spun around
like like a god damn uh you know, spinner spinner top.

Speaker 5 (01:54:33):
Yeah. But then did anybody did anybody see him do this?

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
I hope not. Did he do that? No?

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
I don't know, But like it's something like that cornerback
would do something like Jalen Mills would do back in
the day. Gets air mailed and it's hot.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
I love it, And fifteen yards away he got burned
by twenty yards.

Speaker 5 (01:54:53):
Yeah, that's just so bad. Like I had that it
was on me. Yeah, Jhill and Mills also just got
added to the Texas practice squad. That is him and
him and c J down there.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Good for him getting a paycheck.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
Right, I'll say so, yeah, I think right, I think
I'll just keep it here. Like it's it's if a
Dory plays, If Dory is competitive enough, they'll let's stay
that as well if he if he's not, you know,
then it's okay, what do you get? And then you know,
you're really looking for teams that are out of it,

(01:55:32):
And that's why you have to wait, because like teams
that aren't out of it, Yeah, they're not gonna they're
not gonna sell yet.

Speaker 5 (01:55:38):
Yeah, that's why the deadlines.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
What November, Yeah, yeah, week like seven or eight.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Yeah, there's time. You're not going to really know what
you have until that time. Anyway, as a team, you
don't really have your identity until until that.

Speaker 5 (01:55:56):
Yeah, a little rally, I don't know how, Like he
throws that back foot slider to him, and then you
go ahead and throw one that's just down the middle
and he just hits to the center field. Like what
like if you put a ball in the dirt to Nicks,
He's gonna swing at it. Like what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
But yeah, yeah, I think he baits. I think he
baits pictures to do it sometimes too. And then he
swings at the O curveball in the dirt to make
you go throw another one and hang it.

Speaker 5 (01:56:26):
Yeah that's not a strike.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
This isn't my god.

Speaker 5 (01:56:30):
He's doing it all night, all night again, Like, I
don't know if it really changes the game that much
because Snell was disgusting, but like he's been doing this
all night where you're you're giving balls off the plate
and like.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
Yeah, shows y'all while these guys know the own toes hitters.

Speaker 5 (01:56:47):
Yeah that's all right. Well he took two out of
three from the daughters.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
Yeah whatever, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:56:55):
We got Arizona next.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
I think, yeah, we stole late nights.

Speaker 5 (01:56:59):
Let's got oh yeah, next couple of nights.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
All right, boys, Well listen, great show everybody out there.
We appreciate you you tuning in and comment in. Let's
go this weekend. Let's go three and oh so obviously
we talked about it to an NFC game, So let's go.
Let's go find the way.

Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
Let's sir, you're gonna win, absolutely, go birds that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
Might be close, so you know, I mean be on
the edge of your seat a little bit. But just
remember something. We're winners, baby, walk around like it, talk
about it. Let's keep the good vibes going here, and
let's see a little let's see a little spark out
of our out of our passing game. That's all we're
asking for, just.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
A little bit. Let's get that to one sixty. Let's
get that number up a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:57:50):
K yeah, yeah, road to four K. We need a
couple of five hundred yard passing games out of them now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
Yeah. I'll be sick. Yeah, I'll be sick too. I'm
coming on. It's at Wednesday nights. We love y'all. Coberts

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