September 9, 2025 • 55 mins
After a hard-fought Week 1 win over the division rival Dallas Cowboys, the Philadelphia Eagles have some adjustments to make heading into their Week 2 matchup against the Kansas City Chiefs. In this week’s episode of Eagles Talk, we break down the 3 key fixes the Eagles need to implement to get back on track. What can they do to help get the wide receivers more involved? Should Jakorian Bennett replace Adoree Jackson immediately? And we’ll highlight the players who stood out in a huge way!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's me by myself, but I Am not going to
be alone the whole show.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
My co host is just running a little late. But
I'm gonna hold down the floor by myself for now.
And then also as usual, we will we will be
joined by the one less Boeing. So oh and well,
what do you know? My co host just as I said,
is here?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
There?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
You are there, I am there just a few just
like not even a minute late. What's going on? P way,
how you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm all right, I'm ready for vacation.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
You're ready for the season just started. Well, I'm taking
I'm taking.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm going a life for a little what oh are you?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Going to South Carolina? Oh? How long a week?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's it nice. Nice, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, I haven't had a vacation in.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Forever.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't think i've I've taken one since like twenty
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
What you need to you need to take more regular vacation.
What's your single you're single, you're you know, you've got
no kid, no type like, enjoy the single life when
you can in your freedom and go travel, go take vacations.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You work too much, bro, I do work too much.
You work way too much. Enjoy it when your construction
worker dad says you work too much when he goes
to work at three a m. On his birthday, I
work too much.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, so I I will echo those sentiments of your dad.
Enjoy yourself. But I'm glad to go on talking like
you you a flying down.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Or you're driving No, we're driving down Friday at like midnight.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Nice?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Nice, so that you beat traffic. Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So it's gonna be I'm gonna be.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So tired, Oh my god, it is. It'll be fine.
Just enjoy yourself, Carolina, that's awesome. Yeah, enjoy them.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Who is it you know who is enjoying himself? Who
mister Howard Roseman.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Oh, of course, mister Howie Roseman, never never sleep and
never never taking a day off, even if it's during
the season. He is like make acting like this is
like fantasy football with all the trades that he's been MEETINGHD.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right, Like that's what it is, like, he's just bored.
It's a random Monday. I didn't know what to do. Uh,
look at eight different players that make a trade.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, he probably probably is. But hey, he's he's
active and he's aggressive and that's what we love about him.
So we'll definitely get to the trade in a bit.
We're going to cover then, you know, I don't know
the game. The Eagles game was last week, so it's
you know a little bit a few days ago. But
we're going to take more a little bit of an
in between approach as we get ready for the Week
(03:26):
two showdown against the Chiefs. We're going to talk about
adjustments that we want to see being made moving forward,
both off on the side and the defensive side. So
we'll talk about that and we'll also react to some
of the other stuff going around if we have time
going around the league in Week one. But let's get
(03:46):
to the breaking news because we definitely had. This isn't
the second time in what the past month we've had
a trade have been right before the show goes on.
So we have a good luck. We have a good
luck on this show. So we had. As we all saw,
(04:07):
or if you haven't seen, the Eagles made a trade
for Tank Bigsby. I believe it was like a fifth
and a sixth round draft pick for Tank bis bringing back.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We traded the conditional pick that we got in the
Brice Off trade as well.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Oh god, okay, okay, so yeah, we traded traded that
for Tank Bigsby. As he comes, the running back comes
to Philadelphia. I know there's a lot of reports going
on around what it means. I know the popular report
saying that, like they they traded for him for his
special team's ability as a kick returner and it has
(04:41):
nothing to do with the status and injury status of
Will Shipley, you know which I believe when it comes
to the kick returner part, yeah, I believe that's part
of it. I I don't believe that's the only thing.
So I just had I mean, I posted my thoughts
on Twitter and if you didn't see them, going take
(05:02):
a look.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
If you're on Twitter, h.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
But pretty much, I I really like this trade because
I think that he compliments what will Shipley brings to
the table as a running back. You know what Will
Shipley as like, he's like that scat back, smart receiving back.
And with Bigsb he's more of a reliable, uh of
(05:29):
physical downhill type of runner that's not that good as
a receiver. But hey, like that's why I say it's
a compliment to to what Shipley brings, right, So with
those two, they're they're gonna be a good duo. And
and remember how leading up to the season p why
the talk that I constantly said, like, yeah, this this
running back room could use an upgrade behind Saquan. I'm
(05:51):
not like too confident that that if Squon knock On
Wood were to go down, I'm not too confident that
we'd have a running back or two running backs that
could really carry the load or like produce well enough
in his absence. But now with Bigsby, I think that
(06:12):
he is definitely an upgrade from a Dylan and he
can do some things as a runner that Willship he can't.
So I think that it's a good trade because now
it bolsters our running back room. If you think that
he's here just for special teams, just to be a
kick returner, okay, you can. You can choose to believe
(06:34):
that if you want. I I personally, based on my
own evaluations of all these players, I don't believe that's
the sole reason they trained for him. I think it's
also to boost depth in our you know, in our
running back room. So that is that's that's what That's
how I see it. People, your thoughts on on the trade.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So I think it's it's multi layered, like you were
talking about. I think it is to bolster their running
back room because I I don't think the Shipley injury
is too bad to where oh my god, he's out
for a while, like I think he might. It might
be something similar to I'm trying to think, like it
might be something working where maybe he's gone for like
(07:18):
a week or two, or it's like the Tanna McKee
injury where he's probably not gonna miss like a long
period of time, but they just wanted to have someone available,
Like I think Shipley's probably gonna miss two three weeks,
but you can go get someone like Tank Bits Bixby
to help A improve your running back room and B
have someone who can return punts like that's phenomenally what
(07:40):
like eight hundred yards or something last year.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Something like around that number. Yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Something around there. Like he makes your running back room
rather better.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
He's explosives, he's a he's an average pass blocker, not
the Gert the greatest pass catcher, which is whatever, Like
I care more about him as a back than anything else.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And then whatever, he can give me a pump returns
like like I don't expect anything crazy from him, Like
can you can you give me a little bit more
than Kenny game All was giving me last year, Like
I'd be okay with that. If you can give me
a better Kenny Game. Well, who can give me average
(08:25):
pass blocking and some kick returns? I'm happy. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, I hear you. I definitely hear you on that.
And I think also another the mention of this that
we have to address is with a dynamic kick, then
the the dynamic kick return being as is, yep, it
adds value. And we've seen around the league that these
(08:53):
kick returners are taking advantage and I think that you,
I think there is a value you that they they
are looking to add and that's why they got Tank. Again,
I'm gonna repeat, I don't think that's the sole reason
they brought him in. I think he's too good of
a player to to be oh, you're just a special
(09:14):
teamer and we're gonna trade you just because just to
play special teams. I think he does add to the
running back room as a running back also, and I
I personally like him more than AJ Dillon, and I
think that he'll be a good compliment to to willship Ley.
But we shall see. All this is like all this
is a matter of just continuing to add death. Now
I saw that we have a few comments and the
(09:35):
Chris is saying, makes me trade nice, but how does
it help our secondary? And then we have we have
more comments like that, he says. Ryan Swolpe says, you know,
or ask why not a record? Why not a corner?
So stuff like that, and again go ahead, you can
go so.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Like we're bringing up, oh, why aren't we helping the secondary?
We did we we we we made that trade. We
made that trade like four weeks ago. That's been it.
That's that's like I understand that people are freaking out
about a Dori he's cheeks, he's buns, like we know this,
Like he's like Michael, he was Michael Jiuquette two point
(10:16):
zero on Sunday or on Thursday, like what we are
aware of that, Like it's but I also think a
big part of that is because there was no pass
rush whatsoever. Thirty seconds into the game. You had to
throw your defensive game plan in the garbage because your
best player was hurt or not hurt. Your your best
(10:37):
player was was bet without the game because he was
spit on somebody. So that's something you have to take
into consideration, Like your second numby is, honestly, we played
really well, like well, Cooper played really well. Quinnyon was good.
You know he had that one one bad defensive play,
but like that's all right, Like you didn't even know
(10:57):
Cooper was I didn't see Cooper do anything, like I
only think he was targeted or anything like that. Like
I understand like, oh, we need a we need another corner,
we need another corner and I and that's completely justifiable
considering what we've seen from a Dory week one. But
(11:18):
my argument is who's walking in here week two? Who
are we getting that like a Dory that's just gonna
be light years better than a Dori Jackson. Rasulle Douglas
is not available because they are here. We got signed
away A Santae Samuel Jr. Is hurt as ship and
that's why he's not signed. I'm like, Greg Newsom, are
(11:43):
you going after Greg Newsom? That's a guy he'd be okay, serviceable.
I keep seeing people talk about Greg Ward on the
on the Browns, and I'm like, that's not happening like that.
That might be like a middle of the season trade
if the Browns like completely like self destruct, but like
(12:05):
they look serviceable week one. I don't think that's happening
anytime soon. So like I'll ask the chat, like, who
is this corner that we're bringing in? Like I'm okay
if they brought in Mike Mike Hilton, I'd be okay
with Stefan Gilmore. But I guess the question is, like,
if it's not a free agent, what corner are we
trading for right now that makes this roster better? And
(12:29):
don't just say, oh, he's better than a Dori Jackson
because you have to teach this guy a whole new
defense in week two.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, I don't know why did the constant like pound
table for oh, trade for a corner? We did, just.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Give a if you give me, if you can't go
get someone who's Who's who's gonna make a difference on
this defense Right now, I'm all for trading for him.
I think he's already here. But you also you can't
just be throwing names out that make no sense, like
they're not training for Denzel war That's not happening, not
(13:05):
just early in the season. Also, remember everyone wanted us
to go out and get j R. Alexander and he
was he was he was better toast.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, he looked bad. He looked bad. Uh, you know,
he looked bad to last night. So I mean he's
he's aged. So yeah, we will see. Let's get Let's
use this to segue a little bit to our pole question.
But before we do, our good friend Les Bowen joins us,
how you doing less? How you been.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We're we're doing well. I mean, it's week one of
the NFL season. The Eagles won their first game. I
don't care how it looked, but they won. And week
one of the the The calendar was awesome in terms
of entertaining games and surprises, he is. So I'm doing
I'm doing really well. So, uh, we've got our pole question.
(13:56):
We talked about the the bigs betrayed before we get
to a poke. Did you have any thoughts on the
bigsby Trayed?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Well, first of all, if your name is Cartavius, you
got to have a nickname of some sort and his
his tank, So that's cool. Never knew anybody named Cartavius before.
But yeah, I'm glad they did that. I don't care
what they say. They say, Oh, this Shipley thing with
the ribs is nothing. Shipley's a tiny kind of guy
(14:27):
in some ways. He's not a big running back, and
he played one he got real action in one game
and hurt his ribs, and you know, I think they're
sort of girding against guarding against him being not available,
you know, more than not just this injury, but the
(14:50):
fact that he's a guy that might get danged quite
a bit. And the point, you know, so the question
about why not a corner, Well, as you guys kind
of pointed out, it's not like there's a vending machine
and you just put in your money and pick which
position you'd like to have a good player. You know,
what's on the market at the moment and what you
(15:13):
have to give up. And this was not a big
for a guy that's seems to be a pretty serviceable
young running back. This was not a big ask, you know,
and you like that. You know, if there's a position
where you're not super stocked and somebody wants to get
rid of something that's valuable, then you do that. You
(15:35):
don't think, well, that's not the thing that I need
the most, so I won't do it, you know. No,
it's and they did make the trade for the other
the slot corner the other day, or they picked him up, rather,
I shouldn't say made the trade.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Mielton. Yeah, I thought they worked him out as well
as the other people.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh okay, yet I thought they signed him. But if
they didn't, nonetheless, I think the the idea behind working
him out was you might be able to if you can't.
We're all hoping Bennett turns out to be the answer there,
opposite Quinnon Mitchell, Right, Well, if that doesn't happen and
(16:22):
you do have to move Cooper Degene over, you know,
you're gonna need a really good slot corner and maybe
that would be the guy that could come in there.
And play slot corner if you had to make that move,
which they don't want to do. But if they haven't
signed him, and today they filled the roster spot, I
guess with Big B. So maybe they're not going to
(16:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, there was a bevy of names that they worked out.
I saw and a Reddy Clips even eludes to one
of them being Quez Watkins. Again, there was a lot
of them.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Wes Watkins on the practice squad wouldn't be the end
of the world.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But yeah, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
A lot of overaction people see Quas and.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
They they yeah, they're going to replace A. J. Brown
with Quez.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Last I'd rather drop a toaster in the tub with
me in it than bring less then then bring Quees
Watkins back.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Even to the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
The practice squad, it's just a workout. It doesn't work
out because I don't trust it, Like Hi gets stupid.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He might look like, hey, well you know, maybe there's
a chance to fix him again. I'm like, no, think
about it, thoughts.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
They did work out another wide receiver too, They worked
out jn So it's not like you never know.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
With these workouts, Like maybe it was a favorite to
the agent. Maybe the agent is somebody else's agent and
you really wanted Quez's name out there because Ques isn't
getting any any action. Yeah, well look at Quez. What
the hell? You know, we want to stay on your
good side.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
One time, when the Eagles had a coaching opening, they
interviewed a certain coach who'd been out of it for
a good while. I won't say his name. I was,
you know, it was the last around. What what the hell?
And it was like, uh, it was just a favor
to the guy to get his name, you know. And
the ESPN, you know, Eagles interview so and so, they
(18:18):
they're not when they weren't a guy. They would admit
it to you if you ask them. Yeah, we're not
gonna hire him though, you know. But you know that
so workout is you know, there's no downside to working
somebody out that I'm aware of.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, I agree with that. There could be a There
could be a bevy of reasons as to why they
work someone out. So that's kind of like the draft
interview thing, like they bring process in the in for
and it could mean a lot of different things. People.
You know, people think fancy team to think, oh, we
we worked them out, and that probably means we're gonna
(18:52):
draft them. No, it doesn't always mean that. To two
running backs that come to mind over the years. I
remember they brought in Darius Geis for two workouts, so
everyone speculating that the Eagles were interested in him, they
wanted to target him. No, afterwards it was like, no,
we wanted to We brought him in because he had
some off the field stuff that we wanted to really get.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I think they were interested in them until they did
the interview and then it was like, nah, that's my point.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Just because you work someone out doesn't mean you're going
to sign them. It means that a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Back when the late Tom Heckert was the Eagles general manager,
he would tell you a point blank back then, I
didn't pay that much attention to who they brought in
for draft visits because that was usually it that they
really wanted to get in front of this guy and
really see what he was about because he did something
in college that they weren't happy about. They didn't have
(19:47):
big dom back then. Yeah, yeah, you know, they would
bring guys, a lot of guys in just to just
to kind of Okay, it's this guy on drum.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Draft they brought it in, which is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah. Yeah. I And when they first started drafting guys
that they brought in, frankly, I was a little caught
off guard. I was like, oh, they're doing this now.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Mm yeah. And it's not always like I mean, we
saw the the one running back they brought in for Jeffers,
it was Jayden Blue. They didn't they didn't draft them. So,
I mean it is, you know, it is what it is,
giving them everything, but it's it's good.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
There's no good reason not to take Tank Bigsby at
this at this price, you know that. I know. If
he's healthy, Yeah, got ran a four four five forty.
He's been a productive NFL back. If Jacksonville wants to
give him away practically.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Then yeah, yeah there was.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You were major your your offense drastically better over the
the last three weeks by adding guys like John Matchi
and Tank bigs Bigsby.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, well for good depth. Yeah, Tank Bigsby was was
very solid for the for the Jaguars. Was it last
year when et On was was struggling and with the
new coaching regime in Jacksonville, and them drafting two in
you know, there was it was speculated all off season
that one of Etn or Bigsby was gonna be the
(21:14):
odd man out. And so you know, Etn looks like
he had a good game, and you know, he looks
to be like their league guy for now. And I
do think that's the right choice. I think Etn fits
that scheme better. I think ETM overall is the better
running back despite his down year last year. So Bigsby
was available, expendable, and can't.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's not a bad thing to take advantage of a
low price.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Got spot open and you know, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So let's get to our poll question that we haven't
gotten to yet. But obviously with the breaking news that
the Bigsby trade, definitely wanted to get into that. But
regarding the Eagles game, which we haven't had an opportunity
to talk about yet since that happened last Thursday, the
the overall Eagles defensive performance against the Cowboys was more
(22:04):
encouraging than concerning agree or disagree less what do you
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Did you leave that game being like okay, like because
Jalen Carter wasn't in there, and this is the first
game I actually you actually were were positive you got
a more positive take from it? Or were you concerned
considering how things looked in the first half and how
bad Adorri Jackson was, or could I game well?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I the Jalen Carter thing disrupts every every aspect of
the defense, you know, especially since it happens when the
game has actually started, and you can't like, you know,
change your game plan or put somebody up in his
place or anything. If it happens on the day before
(22:49):
the game, you know, you can at least make a
little bit of an adjustment. But I thought that really,
you know, kicked him in the head. I was not
happy at all with until the fumble recovery. I thought
the defense looked really sluggish. You mentioned the lack of
pass rush, which is why we have Zadarius Smith in
(23:12):
here now. Other than the linebackers, I didn't see a
whole lot that I did like out of that defense. Frankly,
everybody's talking about Jordan Davis, you know, and he played.
He played a lot of snaps and was good. But
the first half they were giving up runs, they were
giving up everything.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Really, they did only give up fifty seven yards in
the second half.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
That's yes, but both teams. This was true for both
teams once that break happened. Yeah, the hour long break.
Suddenly both defenses were you know, brick wall, and neither
offense could do anything. It was really strange. I infer
that there were a lot of defensive adjustments made that
that was easier to do than make offensive adjustments. I
(23:56):
guess I don't know, but it was a strange game
in that guard. I really wonder what would have happened
if we hadn't had that hour long break. Just as
the Eagles took the ball over after the fumble. To
give an agree or disagree answer, I I kind of disagree.
I I didn't find it encouraging. I found it. I
(24:19):
found it sort of conditionally okay because of Carter, but
I wasn't impressed. And I want to see, you know,
I want to see a lot better than that. I
think Zadarius Smith will help, and I think maybe they
need to get Bennett on that CB two and see
(24:41):
how he does.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He's been here, should have started the week one.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's a well, it's a tough thing to come in,
even if it was early August it's a tough thing
to come into a system you've never played and just jump,
you know, into a starting role. I'm sure they'd.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Rather done it before rather.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Kind of say, you know, kind of ease him in
week four, week five, something like that. But I don't
think they can do that. Jackson just didn't look functional
out there, and I was I was surprised by that. Frankly,
I expected him to look functional. This is a guy
who's been a starting corner in the league for quite
a while. He hasn't always been great, but he's he's
(25:22):
been serviceable. He wouldn't have been out there, you know,
for I mean, he was a first round pick a
good while back. Now he has ability, but he just
doesn't seem to make plays. So you know, I would
move on from him quickly. But no, I wasn't real encouraged.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, I hear you. We have some comments that do
want to get to. Let's see Marley does say it.
It was encouraging seeing the adjustments in the second we
were I guess you mean second half we were without
our best offensive players. Also seeing our top two draft
picks perform. Well, yeah, he's encouraging. Love that, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Cuba and uh and and Campbell.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah yeah, uh Bretty Cliffs does say in regards to
the possibility of signing Mike Hilton Corner, I think they
should keep Cooper in the slot no matter what. Such
an important position for faedo defense, and Cooper being in
the slot, it's really significant for the run defense too.
I agree with that. I worry about moving just because.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
If there is a caveat there, it would be that
Campbell and mccouba might make it less crucial. Uh, we
don't really know yet. We're going off one game, which
is really not any kind of sample size at all.
I would rather keep Cooper in the slot. But if
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you're gonna get killed on the outside all day, then
I would start thinking about doing something else and we'll
just see. You know, one game isn't enough to change everything.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
What do you think more encouraged or concerned?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
So I think it's encouraging. Like I knew it wasn't
gonna be perfect. I knew there was gonna be a
lot of issues its first week. You know, it's a
division game, it's the Cowboys. You know a lot of
your starters didn't really play. You're without your your star
player for the the entire games, and that kind of
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changed everything. Like like I said before the game started,
I didn't want the Dori Jackson in there. I wanted Bennett.
I was willing to risk whenever I needed to risk
with Bennett as opposed to with Dori Jackson. And we
saw what happened. Ceedee Lamb blessed him in the name
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of the Father and Son in the Holy Spirit, like
like he is, he is, Ceedee Lamb. But maybe maybe
Bennett doesn't give up one hundred and five yards on
five catches.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Maybe he gives up.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Eighty eighty yards or seventy yards.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
On they were that Lamb dropped a couple. Yes, it
was interesting in the Dallas media. You know, I watched
the game. I thought he had two real drops and
in that last glass last gas pass where he was
laying out, I thought that was like not really a drop.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I don't I would classify as a drop.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
In the Dallas media it was six drops.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, well he has a he's a drop problem like that.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But I mean he didn't drop six passes. I mean,
give me a break here, you know, I mean to them,
it was all about if CD lemm had just caught
those passes, the Cowboys would have won by well you know, no,
you know it was not six drops.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Here's my my issue with that, and I know Ryan
swooped to say that too, is if cd Lamb caught passes,
he goes lose that game. Him dropping past is the
only reason why they were Now, Like, I don't I
have an issue kind of with that statement because if
we have to stop acting like the drops are an
outlier when.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
It comes to C.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
D Lamb, Cede Lamb has throughout his whole career had
issues with drops.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Because if you're going to give C. D Lamb those
catches give Mitchell the interception.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
So it is part of who he is and therefore
it's part of the game. It's part of how good
the Cowboys execute. So like, I don't I get.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The Cowboys were fortunate to get out of there with
a four point loss. I thought it should have been
an eleven point loss. I think if there hadn't been
an hour long delay the second that the Evils recovered
that fumbel, I think they would have scored on that drive.
We'll never know, but that's what I think. I don't
And you know, I don't think they would have looked back.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Frankly, yep, I honestly believe too. I think the defense
is really clamped down. They used that that break to
their advantage, and you saw them really come out and
be like, Okay, this is what we're gonna do to
you guys, and it's the offensive struggled therefore. But I mean, like,
at least it was on both sides, right, So I
hear that. So I because of that, I'm gonna say
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I slightly leaning towards.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I slightly leaning.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Toward agreed to the poll.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Because of you know, all the other factors, like we
kind of hit hinted on, like Jenn Carter wasn't in there,
and to adjust like that right out the gate is tough.
I liked the adjustments that that uh Vic Fangio did
in terms of in the second half you saw so
in the first half you saw Queen and Mitchell, he
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followed and traveled with George Pickens, but in the second
half they switched it up and had him follow ceedee lamb,
which in personally to me, which is what I would
have done. I thought it was weird that he was
following Pickens just because and It's not because I think
Pickens is bad. It's Pickens is a really good wide receiver.
I think it's more so because I think that matchup
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I would love to I prefer to see Queenon's skill
set against a guy like Lamb who is a good
route runner and good in the slot. You know.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
So I.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Liked that matchup, and you know, I'm glad they made
that switch. And you saw in the second half the guys,
I think it was you know, you blast. You mentioned
how the defense kind of they were getting run on
in the first half. I think you saw, you know,
it starts with Jordan Davis. You saw guys like a
Jomo and Young really start to play better against the
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run compared to how they were earlier in the game.
And then obviously we know the linebackers they stood out.
They were playing so well, Cooper Dejean playing so well.
So I think that was it was just collectively they
started to figure they started to settle down, starry to
figure things out more. Things weren't perfect, but I think
you saw, you know them really bared down and just
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show that they're the more talented side of the ball.
They had the better matchups. Talent wise and just over time,
it played out that way. It played out the way
over time, So I was more encouraged with with the
with the defense. Anything else you guys want to highlight
or focus on defensively, Uh, And that's either before we
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talk about the offense.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Joh Camel just looks so good that that's I need
to rub this in your face. I was wrong. I
was wrong. I was wrong backer backer until they turned
for the right.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Did you see him run the pole in that one
rep in uh in Tampa two? Oh my god, that's
like he is a bicho. Oh my god. To be
that good in coverage already is amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
It's uh. And it's I guess if you live long enough,
you know, I mean, the Eagles of five, ten, fifteen
years ago never dreamed about having linebacking like they. It's
it's just a real I understand. It's Fangio and that's why,
and that's what he needs for his defense. But in
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fact I understood that before a lot of people when
who kept saying that they weren't going to re sign
Zach Bond and blah blah blah. You know, but it
still is amazing to think what the Eagles stance was
for so many years and this is such a change.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, it is such a change show.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. I love that.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I'm very excited to see what.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
The duo of Campbell and Bond, and you can you
could argue Bond probably had the I don't want to
say the play of the game, but it led to
the play of the game with their first one ball
on Miles, Bond chasing down Miles on that run a.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Touchdown, reaching at top speed of what was it twenty
point five eight miles.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
An hour for a linebacker, and not to be outdone,
we saw Zach Bond also run the ball on Tampa
too and break up that pass with his helmet in
the end zone. So yeah, you know, having two covered
linebackers like that, it's amazing, absolutely amazing. So kudos to
the defense. Let's switch it up to the offense. And
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we have some comments about, you know, regarding the offense
and how we saw it. So Ryan Spelpe, he does
ask Brown only one attempt, he should be mad. I
don't like that. He wasn't. Well, maybe he was, but
he hit it well, I don't Ryan, That's like, are
you are you insinuating that there should be drama because
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I don't I don't know why you'd want that. And
two I I honestly don't think a brown is fully healthy.
I think if you saw him out there, that's my.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Diversion. Like if you like, there wasn't even many like
like a lot of guys I who talk about watching
the All twenty two, like supposedly, there just wasn't many
routes where you're like, oh, yeah, he's definitely open, he's
gonna be available, this is a real route. He was
running his routes like half speed at times from what
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I was being told. And even if you look at
Devonte Smith as well, like there wasn't like a lot
of plays where it was open. Like the Cowboys schemed
it well.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
And yeah, the other corners played really well, played cover
four quarters the pretty much the whole the whole game
like that's they they played over the top with that show,
and they really made an effort to prevent big plays
and the corners, like you said, people, the corners played well.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
That's what makes that game. Even though if you look
at the the the the numbers in terms of total
yardage and yards per attempt for for for Jillen Hurts.
Even though he didn't pass the ball down the field
a lot, he it was a really good game because
he took what was there. He didn't anything, and he
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gave turnovers nothing even close to a tourney exactly exactly.
So it was an amazing game by Dylan Hurts too,
pretty much like he kind of showed that like you can,
you don't have to put up gaudy numbers to be
able to play a really really really well, you know,
really upstanding now.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
So I saved this tweet from earlier today. This is
from Brendan deeg Jaalen Hurts week one rankings among QB's
completion percentage number one, QBR one, uh CPOE one, EPA
generated third, and then it's the sex success rate fourth.
So while he didn't have the gaudy numbers and everything,
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he was efficient. He did what he needed to do.
He played like an elite quarterback does. The funniest part
is always, oh, he doesn't have the numbers and it's
an issue. But when Shoe Burrow does it, Oh my god,
what a winner. That's what he does. He just win.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
And why do you have to compare it to I
don't know why you Because it's not.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
A problem when it hurts, does it. It's a giant problem.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
It's insecurity.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Insecurity, man, it's a DOUBLET was awesome. Alan is awesome,
Lamar is awesome, Hurts is awesome. They're all awesome. I
don't know why it's we're.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Talking about offense. Kevin Petula. First half, I was like,
oh my god, this guy's a genius. This is great.
He's s and then after the after the fumble recovery,
his idea was to run it into the middle of
the line about thirty times. I just, you know, I
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came away with no idea of what Kevin Petula wants
out of his offense. Frankly, there was some motion early.
There was you know, under center early, and then everything
became handing it off to Saquan and him getting killed.
You know, Landon Dickerson's trying to play hurt and then
goes out of the game, and they're running it into
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the middle of the line over and over and over
again with a four point lead. It's not like they
were up twenty. You know. I was not happy with
that development. And Marley's point here about the route concepts,
I think that's part of it too. That's something that
we've seen before with this team. What is the deal
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with these route concepts that don't seem to be to
generate anything, you know, I mean, other teams manage with
lesser wide receivers to scheme them open, and you just
don't see a lot of that with the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I don't know why. Like I was good with
I thought to play golong overall. Even the route concepts
were fine in the first half, I mean the second
I was supposedly after the delay, that's when they're really like,
what are you doing now? I know that I saw
someone suggests or I heard someone suggest I don't know
if it's fran Duffy, I don't know if it was
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someone else on Twitter, but they had mentioned it seemed
as though right after the delay they they kind of
played a conservative approach and said, we're just not going
to lose this game.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
We're gonna take what it is.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
And like, I don't like whether that's good or bad.
I mean, I know we couldn't have came out with
the win. Maybe that was the reason behind it, okay,
but regardless, like you do want to see more and
I don't know what it is about this team. And
this goes back to the Doug Peterson days when he
was our coach and Colin plays and you know all
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the offensive corners we had then at that time. But
for some reason, the Eagles, I swear, were like the
number one team when it comes to running Hank, Like
Hank is like the the go to for this team
in certain situations. And I don't know why that route concept,
it's a basic high school route concept or that that.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
For some reason he goes love.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I don't know why. I do not know why. It
drives me nuts. Whenever we see just running five curls,
it just it's annoying. But hey, they run it. I
don't know, we will what I will say, it's a
little bit early to it's so early to get on
Kevin Batula, you know, one game in and let's let's
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let's pump the brakes and be a little bit more patient.
I know there's it's PTSD from Ben Johnson. I get it,
and I totally understand, and I would only hope that
it doesn't lead to Brian Juntans.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I apologize PTSD from Brian Duncan. I would only hope
it doesn't get to that level of concern. It doesn't
get that bad, but it's it's weak one. Let's see,
let's give.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Kevin Batoula a little bit more patient a little bit.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
I mean, we're actually giving a goal line touches. So
I think we're doing a little bit better than Brian
Johnson calling plays. Also, Julio Jones is not here, uh
getting screens, so.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah, instead getting the screens, which happened did well. And
you know, we had some screenplays and I was just like, okay,
like Jahan Dotson, Johan Dodson, uh, and I had said this,
I know, we we kind of all agreed that I
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really think if Johan just does this consistently all this
this year, where he provides one or two big plays,
crucial plays a game, and that wide receiver three shot
man's absolute win for the Eagles, and I think he's
absolutely capable of I still think he's very talented and
for a wide receiver three, he could he could be
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one of the better ones in the league.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
He's a wide receiver three.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
And I really think it was all about getting Hurts
comfortable with them, you know, And that's going to come
out as a knock as it hurts. It really isn't.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
But he with the corn back, if he show it
up like three weeks before the season starts, it doesn't help.
Like they were somebody was talking about on Twitter and
I said, what do you think clicked for him this year?
I said, last year he was a guy. This year
he's a teammate. Yeah, because when you're just here like
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a few weeks before the season starts, like nothing, there's
no chemistry, there's no comfortability, there's like, I'm not used
to you. You don't know what I like. I don't
know what you like.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
But if you're quarterback needs that, but Jalen does and
Jalen's you know, Jalen's just fine with me. That's just
one of the things you have to, you know, bake
into the equations.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah, I mean there are quarterbacks that have their preferences
like that. I know it's not to this degree. And
I'm not saying hurts is this guy, But I always
remember Peyton Manning was such a stickler for certain things
and the way his wide receivers would would do certain
things and if you didn't do it properly, you you
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were not getting the ball. If you weren't doing it
exactly the way he wanted to. So it's some quarterbacks
are like that, and so it's just it's part of it.
And I'm glad that chemistry has built between the two
of them because I think it could pay dividends. And
I mean, if agent we were already seeing Agie Brown
being hurt heading into week one, and god forbid, we're
gonna get hit with more injuries. But if if that's
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the case, I do have faith in Johan to be
able to step.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Up and make plays when we need him to do.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
So I want to see him more.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
John Matchie, Yeah maybe.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I mean, like it's another instance where he came on
late in the season, so I don't know. Yeah, I
don't know how much he can contribute, but I mean
it is nice to have him here. It is very
nice to have him here.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
But it all starts with the offensive line. And I
want to hear that Landon Dickerson is basically okay. I
think everybody assumes you know that, well, he'd lipped off,
but he'll be okay for next week. And that's you know,
not all injuries are like that. We'll see I sure
hope because he's a pretty important player for this team.
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And the offensive line did not have a wonderful second
half at all in any phase really, you know, did
not look very good. And they need Dickerson out there.
There's no doubt about it. He did was solid, he
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really was.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
During my life was.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Really good and Jurgen's was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
But the side, yeah, the left side was had their
issues during my lot of Look, he got beat a
couple of times, and I'm just like, come on, like
it's it's it's it's a hanger down here a little bit.
But I mean everyone has.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
A bad game.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
I'm not Yeah, I'm not panicking with Jordan, but yeah,
the Lendon Dickerson thing, you would only hope I'm I am.
I I don't want to speak ill of him because
I know he was hurt and him trying to tough
fit out probably was like so difficult for him. And
I give kudos to him him trying to really be
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out there, you know, but I think at some point
you commend the toughness. At some point you got to
realize that like if you're out yeah, yeah, you just
you become a detriment. And so, you know, kudos to him,
but at some point, Yeah, it was. It was the
right thing to get him out and put toff toff in.
And so we'll see again, it's week one. Crazy things
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happened in week one, and we have to just remember patients.
There's a lot of stuff that we experienced even last
year where there was a lot of concerns we had
and spoke of it's a long season and so things
absolutely can change. So let's let's let them change. And so, uh, last,
before you go ask this around or you know, around
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the horn here, if there's one adjustment, either offense or defense,
you want to see, what is the one thing you
want to see be implemented as early as next week
against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
LUs Well, the easiest one is the CB two situation
that you court. Maybe Bennett playing CB two and them
straightening that out somehow. Maybe it's tied to a better
pass rush. I think that's quite likely, and I think
they will get a better pass rush against Kansas City.
I guess I I'll stick with that. I'd like to
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see him run the ball more consistently, well read like
they used to do it, rather than just you know,
falling all over each other like they were last week
sometimes and again, I think they'll run it pretty well
against Kansas City as well. So, but I definitely want
to see the corner situation. I don't want to see,
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you know, Patrick Mahomes running it up with some he
didn't even have good wide receivers. You know, I don't
want to see Worthy out there with his arm in
a sling catching one one handed.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Right is brace on and he's catching one hand to
win and in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
You definitely don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Pu, I what's one adjustment you want.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
To see moving forward for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
We're talking offense or defense or ball whatever you want
to do. Uh doorrig Jackson, Uh not being my CV two.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Well that's what Les just said.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So you maybe maybe some some creativity in the route trees,
maybe uh some better scheming for our wide receivers. Uh
let me see maybe a little bit. I'd like to
see continuously more for Dallas Goddard because I like to
because I like what I saw from him early on.
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Because we get this thing with Dallas Goddard to where
he'll get like a few targets here and there, and
then like something will happen or they'll just go away
from him for like three games and then he gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Yeah mm hmm, yeah, no, I hear you. I I
want to see. I want to see on the offensive
ground game get going again. I want to see them
really start to hanker down and establish establish themselves again
on the ground and bounce back. Because that's now two games,
if you go back to the Super Bowl, two games
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in a row, one ironically against the Chiefs and then
against the Cowboys where the ground game wasn't activated really well.
And so I'm not saying it's a concern, but I'd
just like to see it. I'd like to see what
Kevin Patulo has to in terms of the playbook to
throw some really nice wrinkles. I know he has it,
you know, because we saw a lot of under center,
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some some pistol and and stuff like that in the
first self, I want to continue to see what else
you can add to that that rue dimension. So h yeah,
that's what i'd say. Uh less, thank you for coming
on with us again as always time. Yeah, good to
see you. And then hopefully next week will be talking
about a Chiefs win.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Alrighty, we'll be fresh off of the game next week.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I said to me I met Eagles win over the Chiefs.
I apologize, I just realized that the Chiefs win. But yeah,
Eagles win over the Chiefs win versus the Chiefs. Yeah,
all right, lest we'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
By lass.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
That's Bowen doing boning on the words with us. Pe
Why anything else from that game or if you want
to touch on anything moving forward?
Speaker 4 (49:24):
And uh to week two in this matchup against the Chiefs, the.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Super Bowl rematch, the one that you want to see
so badly I.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Do, because it's never happened. No team is that, No
team has ever faced each other three times in the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
I know, like that's like that's like an ultimate rivalry.
Like ever you tell me you wouldn't have liked this,
like like what's what's say happens somewhere else? Wouldn't have
been crazy to see Ey versus Brady like for a
third time? Not really, you know what I mean? Like
I would be very excited to watch that in the
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Super Bowl just because it was just like that rubber match.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Man.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
I don't know, I don't have the same excitement you do.
I'd like to see the Eagles face another team. I'm
not saying I don't. I'm not saying I would hate
the matchup and and complain about it. I'm just saying,
like I don't share the excitement. I'm not ecstatic about it.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
I'd be okay with push pushing the Bills into Infinity
and beyond. I'd be fine with beating the Ravens. I'd
be fine with beating the Bengals, But just getting that
third matchup versus Mahomes would just be just it would
be historic.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Already, all right. I mean, I'm sure there's people that
agree with you. I just I don't.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
I would rather not see that.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
But it is what it is. I'm trying to think
of anything else. Josh ucc Oh, yeah, he played really well.
He's the top great the defensive player in the NFL
based on PFF.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Yeah, I'll then screw that.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
So what that's still impressive?
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Screw that.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
No, I don't need PF to tell me that just
uh played a really good game. Uh yeah, he played
really well. Trying to think of anything else, I mean,
uh yeah, I think that's all I got predictions for
for this upcoming game.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Or I think I think we beat the Chiefs like decisively.
Like there's no there's not gonna be any worthy. There's
no Rashi Rice like, it's just a bunch of guys.
You know, Pacheco still doesn't look like himself.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
What, yes, he does. He just only had I don't
I don't know why. He didn't have a lot of touches.
But when he touched the ball, he looked like his
old self. I don't know what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
I disagree with that.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
That's fine, I just I'm not I'm not worried about
the chiefs like I think. I just think they look
old and they don't.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
They look like they don't have why special help when
it comes to the offensive side of the wall, like
other than homes like like and all the l works
for so long, like they always talk about, Oh, you
know Patrick's like Brady, you know he can he can
elevate anybody until he doesn't have any Boddy and then
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you need guys like you can't just be thrown.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
I'm not going to I think we do win. I'm
not going to say in fact that you get you
you your homer self likes to get ahead of yourself,
just like last year, you guarantee wins and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
I was right, I was everything.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
So no, you guarantee a blowout. It wasn't a blowout
in that game. I remember you guaranteed we would blow.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
I was believing in my coach and you would breaks
down in it and just yourself.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
You get way too ahead of yourself. It's okay, I'm
not gonna so ahead.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I'll give you some time to catch up. That's just
a service.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
I am not going to predict a blowout against the Chiefs,
especially since decisive it, especially since we'll be in Kansas City.
But I do think we're going to win. I think
we're going to beat the Chiefs. I just think that
with the Chiefs wide receiver room being banged up, you know,
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Worthy is probably not going to play, and they're still
I say banged up, but I should say like not
ideally right now because they have wide receiver. Obviously she
races out and then Worthy is out. So I think
we will talk about a game where a Dory can
bounce back if it does start. You know, if there's
a game he could bounce back again. It could beat
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this game. But I won't guarantee it. But I'm just
saying I think we will. We will win, and I
think we will come on top of this Sunday, but
we shall see. I think that's all I got py
any last thoughts, go birds.
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I don't think i've I've taken one since like twenty
twenty one.
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What you need to you need to take more regular vacation.
What's your single you're single, you're you know, you've got
no kid, no type like, enjoy the single life when
you can in your freedom and go travel, go take vacations.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You work too much, bro, I do work too much.
You work way too much. Enjoy it when your construction
worker dad says you work too much when he goes
to work at three a m. On his birthday, I
work too much.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, so I I will echo those sentiments of your dad.
Enjoy yourself. But I'm glad to go on talking like
you you a flying down.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Or you're driving No, we're driving down Friday at like midnight.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Nice?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Nice, so that you beat traffic. Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So it's gonna be I'm gonna be.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So tired, Oh my god, it is. It'll be fine.
Just enjoy yourself, Carolina, that's awesome. Yeah, enjoy them.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Who is it you know who is enjoying himself? Who
mister Howard Roseman.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Oh, of course, mister Howie Roseman, never never sleep and
never never taking a day off, even if it's during
the season. He is like make acting like this is
like fantasy football with all the trades that he's been MEETINGHD.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right, Like that's what it is, like, he's just bored.
It's a random Monday. I didn't know what to do. Uh,
look at eight different players that make a trade.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, he probably probably is. But hey, he's he's
active and he's aggressive and that's what we love about him.
So we'll definitely get to the trade in a bit.
We're going to cover then, you know, I don't know
the game. The Eagles game was last week, so it's
you know a little bit a few days ago. But
we're going to take more a little bit of an
in between approach as we get ready for the Week
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two showdown against the Chiefs. We're going to talk about
adjustments that we want to see being made moving forward,
both off on the side and the defensive side. So
we'll talk about that and we'll also react to some
of the other stuff going around if we have time
going around the league in Week one. But let's get
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to the breaking news because we definitely had. This isn't
the second time in what the past month we've had
a trade have been right before the show goes on.
So we have a good luck. We have a good
luck on this show. So we had. As we all saw,
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or if you haven't seen, the Eagles made a trade
for Tank Bigsby. I believe it was like a fifth
and a sixth round draft pick for Tank bis bringing back.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We traded the conditional pick that we got in the
Brice Off trade as well.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Oh god, okay, okay, so yeah, we traded traded that
for Tank Bigsby. As he comes, the running back comes
to Philadelphia. I know there's a lot of reports going
on around what it means. I know the popular report
saying that, like they they traded for him for his
special team's ability as a kick returner and it has
(04:41):
nothing to do with the status and injury status of
Will Shipley, you know which I believe when it comes
to the kick returner part, yeah, I believe that's part
of it. I I don't believe that's the only thing.
So I just had I mean, I posted my thoughts
on Twitter and if you didn't see them, going take
(05:02):
a look.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
If you're on Twitter, h.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
But pretty much, I I really like this trade because
I think that he compliments what will Shipley brings to
the table as a running back. You know what Will
Shipley as like, he's like that scat back, smart receiving back.
And with Bigsb he's more of a reliable, uh of
(05:29):
physical downhill type of runner that's not that good as
a receiver. But hey, like that's why I say it's
a compliment to to what Shipley brings, right, So with
those two, they're they're gonna be a good duo. And
and remember how leading up to the season p why
the talk that I constantly said, like, yeah, this this
running back room could use an upgrade behind Saquan. I'm
(05:51):
not like too confident that that if Squon knock On
Wood were to go down, I'm not too confident that
we'd have a running back or two running backs that
could really carry the load or like produce well enough
in his absence. But now with Bigsby, I think that
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he is definitely an upgrade from a Dylan and he
can do some things as a runner that Willship he can't.
So I think that it's a good trade because now
it bolsters our running back room. If you think that
he's here just for special teams, just to be a
kick returner, okay, you can. You can choose to believe
(06:34):
that if you want. I I personally, based on my
own evaluations of all these players, I don't believe that's
the sole reason they trained for him. I think it's
also to boost depth in our you know, in our
running back room. So that is that's that's what That's
how I see it. People, your thoughts on on the trade.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So I think it's it's multi layered, like you were
talking about. I think it is to bolster their running
back room because I I don't think the Shipley injury
is too bad to where oh my god, he's out
for a while, like I think he might. It might
be something similar to I'm trying to think, like it
might be something working where maybe he's gone for like
(07:18):
a week or two, or it's like the Tanna McKee
injury where he's probably not gonna miss like a long
period of time, but they just wanted to have someone available,
Like I think Shipley's probably gonna miss two three weeks,
but you can go get someone like Tank Bits Bixby
to help A improve your running back room and B
have someone who can return punts like that's phenomenally what
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like eight hundred yards or something last year.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Something like around that number. Yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Something around there. Like he makes your running back room
rather better.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
He's explosives, he's a he's an average pass blocker, not
the Gert the greatest pass catcher, which is whatever, Like
I care more about him as a back than anything else.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And then whatever, he can give me a pump returns
like like I don't expect anything crazy from him, Like
can you can you give me a little bit more
than Kenny game All was giving me last year, Like
I'd be okay with that. If you can give me
a better Kenny Game. Well, who can give me average
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pass blocking and some kick returns? I'm happy. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, I hear you. I definitely hear you on that.
And I think also another the mention of this that
we have to address is with a dynamic kick, then
the the dynamic kick return being as is, yep, it
adds value. And we've seen around the league that these
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kick returners are taking advantage and I think that you,
I think there is a value you that they they
are looking to add and that's why they got Tank. Again,
I'm gonna repeat, I don't think that's the sole reason
they brought him in. I think he's too good of
a player to to be oh, you're just a special
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teamer and we're gonna trade you just because just to
play special teams. I think he does add to the
running back room as a running back also, and I
I personally like him more than AJ Dillon, and I
think that he'll be a good compliment to to willship Ley.
But we shall see. All this is like all this
is a matter of just continuing to add death. Now
I saw that we have a few comments and the
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Chris is saying, makes me trade nice, but how does
it help our secondary? And then we have we have
more comments like that, he says. Ryan Swolpe says, you know,
or ask why not a record? Why not a corner?
So stuff like that, and again go ahead, you can
go so.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Like we're bringing up, oh, why aren't we helping the secondary?
We did we we we we made that trade. We
made that trade like four weeks ago. That's been it.
That's that's like I understand that people are freaking out
about a Dori he's cheeks, he's buns, like we know this,
Like he's like Michael, he was Michael Jiuquette two point
(10:16):
zero on Sunday or on Thursday, like what we are
aware of that, Like it's but I also think a
big part of that is because there was no pass
rush whatsoever. Thirty seconds into the game. You had to
throw your defensive game plan in the garbage because your
best player was hurt or not hurt. Your your best
(10:37):
player was was bet without the game because he was
spit on somebody. So that's something you have to take
into consideration, Like your second numby is, honestly, we played
really well, like well, Cooper played really well. Quinnyon was good.
You know he had that one one bad defensive play,
but like that's all right, Like you didn't even know
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Cooper was I didn't see Cooper do anything, like I
only think he was targeted or anything like that. Like
I understand like, oh, we need a we need another corner,
we need another corner and I and that's completely justifiable
considering what we've seen from a Dory week one. But
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my argument is who's walking in here week two? Who
are we getting that like a Dory that's just gonna
be light years better than a Dori Jackson. Rasulle Douglas
is not available because they are here. We got signed
away A Santae Samuel Jr. Is hurt as ship and
that's why he's not signed. I'm like, Greg Newsom, are
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you going after Greg Newsom? That's a guy he'd be okay, serviceable.
I keep seeing people talk about Greg Ward on the
on the Browns, and I'm like, that's not happening like that.
That might be like a middle of the season trade
if the Browns like completely like self destruct, but like
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they look serviceable week one. I don't think that's happening
anytime soon. So like I'll ask the chat, like, who
is this corner that we're bringing in? Like I'm okay
if they brought in Mike Mike Hilton, I'd be okay
with Stefan Gilmore. But I guess the question is, like,
if it's not a free agent, what corner are we
trading for right now that makes this roster better? And
(12:29):
don't just say, oh, he's better than a Dori Jackson
because you have to teach this guy a whole new
defense in week two.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, I don't know why did the constant like pound
table for oh, trade for a corner? We did, just.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Give a if you give me, if you can't go
get someone who's Who's who's gonna make a difference on
this defense Right now, I'm all for trading for him.
I think he's already here. But you also you can't
just be throwing names out that make no sense, like
they're not training for Denzel war That's not happening, not
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just early in the season. Also, remember everyone wanted us
to go out and get j R. Alexander and he
was he was he was better toast.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, he looked bad. He looked bad. Uh, you know,
he looked bad to last night. So I mean he's
he's aged. So yeah, we will see. Let's get Let's
use this to segue a little bit to our pole question.
But before we do, our good friend Les Bowen joins us,
how you doing less? How you been.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We're we're doing well. I mean, it's week one of
the NFL season. The Eagles won their first game. I
don't care how it looked, but they won. And week
one of the the The calendar was awesome in terms
of entertaining games and surprises, he is. So I'm doing
I'm doing really well. So, uh, we've got our pole question.
(13:56):
We talked about the the bigs betrayed before we get
to a poke. Did you have any thoughts on the
bigsby Trayed?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Well, first of all, if your name is Cartavius, you
got to have a nickname of some sort and his
his tank, So that's cool. Never knew anybody named Cartavius before.
But yeah, I'm glad they did that. I don't care
what they say. They say, Oh, this Shipley thing with
the ribs is nothing. Shipley's a tiny kind of guy
(14:27):
in some ways. He's not a big running back, and
he played one he got real action in one game
and hurt his ribs, and you know, I think they're
sort of girding against guarding against him being not available,
you know, more than not just this injury, but the
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fact that he's a guy that might get danged quite
a bit. And the point, you know, so the question
about why not a corner, Well, as you guys kind
of pointed out, it's not like there's a vending machine
and you just put in your money and pick which
position you'd like to have a good player. You know,
what's on the market at the moment and what you
(15:13):
have to give up. And this was not a big
for a guy that's seems to be a pretty serviceable
young running back. This was not a big ask, you know,
and you like that. You know, if there's a position
where you're not super stocked and somebody wants to get
rid of something that's valuable, then you do that. You
(15:35):
don't think, well, that's not the thing that I need
the most, so I won't do it, you know. No,
it's and they did make the trade for the other
the slot corner the other day, or they picked him up, rather,
I shouldn't say made the trade.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Mielton. Yeah, I thought they worked him out as well
as the other people.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh okay, yet I thought they signed him. But if
they didn't, nonetheless, I think the the idea behind working
him out was you might be able to if you can't.
We're all hoping Bennett turns out to be the answer there,
opposite Quinnon Mitchell, Right, Well, if that doesn't happen and
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you do have to move Cooper Degene over, you know,
you're gonna need a really good slot corner and maybe
that would be the guy that could come in there.
And play slot corner if you had to make that move,
which they don't want to do. But if they haven't
signed him, and today they filled the roster spot, I
guess with Big B. So maybe they're not going to
(16:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, there was a bevy of names that they worked out.
I saw and a Reddy Clips even eludes to one
of them being Quez Watkins. Again, there was a lot
of them.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Wes Watkins on the practice squad wouldn't be the end
of the world.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But yeah, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
A lot of overaction people see Quas and.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
They they yeah, they're going to replace A. J. Brown
with Quez.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Last I'd rather drop a toaster in the tub with
me in it than bring less then then bring Quees
Watkins back.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Even to the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
The practice squad, it's just a workout. It doesn't work
out because I don't trust it, Like Hi gets stupid.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He might look like, hey, well you know, maybe there's
a chance to fix him again. I'm like, no, think
about it, thoughts.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
They did work out another wide receiver too, They worked
out jn So it's not like you never know.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
With these workouts, Like maybe it was a favorite to
the agent. Maybe the agent is somebody else's agent and
you really wanted Quez's name out there because Ques isn't
getting any any action. Yeah, well look at Quez. What
the hell? You know, we want to stay on your
good side.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
One time, when the Eagles had a coaching opening, they
interviewed a certain coach who'd been out of it for
a good while. I won't say his name. I was,
you know, it was the last around. What what the hell?
And it was like, uh, it was just a favor
to the guy to get his name, you know. And
the ESPN, you know, Eagles interview so and so, they
(18:18):
they're not when they weren't a guy. They would admit
it to you if you ask them. Yeah, we're not
gonna hire him though, you know. But you know that
so workout is you know, there's no downside to working
somebody out that I'm aware of.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, I agree with that. There could be a There
could be a bevy of reasons as to why they
work someone out. So that's kind of like the draft
interview thing, like they bring process in the in for
and it could mean a lot of different things. People.
You know, people think fancy team to think, oh, we
we worked them out, and that probably means we're gonna
(18:52):
draft them. No, it doesn't always mean that. To two
running backs that come to mind over the years. I
remember they brought in Darius Geis for two workouts, so
everyone speculating that the Eagles were interested in him, they
wanted to target him. No, afterwards it was like, no,
we wanted to We brought him in because he had
some off the field stuff that we wanted to really get.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I think they were interested in them until they did
the interview and then it was like, nah, that's my point.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Just because you work someone out doesn't mean you're going
to sign them. It means that a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Back when the late Tom Heckert was the Eagles general manager,
he would tell you a point blank back then, I
didn't pay that much attention to who they brought in
for draft visits because that was usually it that they
really wanted to get in front of this guy and
really see what he was about because he did something
in college that they weren't happy about. They didn't have
(19:47):
big dom back then. Yeah, yeah, you know, they would
bring guys, a lot of guys in just to just
to kind of Okay, it's this guy on drum.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Draft they brought it in, which is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah. Yeah. I And when they first started drafting guys
that they brought in, frankly, I was a little caught
off guard. I was like, oh, they're doing this now.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Mm yeah. And it's not always like I mean, we
saw the the one running back they brought in for Jeffers,
it was Jayden Blue. They didn't they didn't draft them. So,
I mean it is, you know, it is what it is,
giving them everything, but it's it's good.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
There's no good reason not to take Tank Bigsby at
this at this price, you know that. I know. If
he's healthy, Yeah, got ran a four four five forty.
He's been a productive NFL back. If Jacksonville wants to
give him away practically.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Then yeah, yeah there was.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You were major your your offense drastically better over the
the last three weeks by adding guys like John Matchi
and Tank bigs Bigsby.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, well for good depth. Yeah, Tank Bigsby was was
very solid for the for the Jaguars. Was it last
year when et On was was struggling and with the
new coaching regime in Jacksonville, and them drafting two in
you know, there was it was speculated all off season
that one of Etn or Bigsby was gonna be the
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odd man out. And so you know, Etn looks like
he had a good game, and you know, he looks
to be like their league guy for now. And I
do think that's the right choice. I think Etn fits
that scheme better. I think ETM overall is the better
running back despite his down year last year. So Bigsby
was available, expendable, and can't.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's not a bad thing to take advantage of a
low price.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Got spot open and you know, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So let's get to our poll question that we haven't
gotten to yet. But obviously with the breaking news that
the Bigsby trade, definitely wanted to get into that. But
regarding the Eagles game, which we haven't had an opportunity
to talk about yet since that happened last Thursday, the
the overall Eagles defensive performance against the Cowboys was more
(22:04):
encouraging than concerning agree or disagree less what do you
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Did you leave that game being like okay, like because
Jalen Carter wasn't in there, and this is the first
game I actually you actually were were positive you got
a more positive take from it? Or were you concerned
considering how things looked in the first half and how
bad Adorri Jackson was, or could I game well?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I the Jalen Carter thing disrupts every every aspect of
the defense, you know, especially since it happens when the
game has actually started, and you can't like, you know,
change your game plan or put somebody up in his
place or anything. If it happens on the day before
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the game, you know, you can at least make a
little bit of an adjustment. But I thought that really,
you know, kicked him in the head. I was not
happy at all with until the fumble recovery. I thought
the defense looked really sluggish. You mentioned the lack of
pass rush, which is why we have Zadarius Smith in
(23:12):
here now. Other than the linebackers, I didn't see a
whole lot that I did like out of that defense. Frankly,
everybody's talking about Jordan Davis, you know, and he played.
He played a lot of snaps and was good. But
the first half they were giving up runs, they were
giving up everything.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Really, they did only give up fifty seven yards in
the second half.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
That's yes, but both teams. This was true for both
teams once that break happened. Yeah, the hour long break.
Suddenly both defenses were you know, brick wall, and neither
offense could do anything. It was really strange. I infer
that there were a lot of defensive adjustments made that
that was easier to do than make offensive adjustments. I
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guess I don't know, but it was a strange game
in that guard. I really wonder what would have happened
if we hadn't had that hour long break. Just as
the Eagles took the ball over after the fumble. To
give an agree or disagree answer, I I kind of disagree.
I I didn't find it encouraging. I found it. I
(24:19):
found it sort of conditionally okay because of Carter, but
I wasn't impressed. And I want to see, you know,
I want to see a lot better than that. I
think Zadarius Smith will help, and I think maybe they
need to get Bennett on that CB two and see
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how he does.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He's been here, should have started the week one.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's a well, it's a tough thing to come in,
even if it was early August it's a tough thing
to come into a system you've never played and just jump,
you know, into a starting role. I'm sure they'd.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Rather done it before rather.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Kind of say, you know, kind of ease him in
week four, week five, something like that. But I don't
think they can do that. Jackson just didn't look functional
out there, and I was I was surprised by that. Frankly,
I expected him to look functional. This is a guy
who's been a starting corner in the league for quite
a while. He hasn't always been great, but he's he's
(25:22):
been serviceable. He wouldn't have been out there, you know,
for I mean, he was a first round pick a
good while back. Now he has ability, but he just
doesn't seem to make plays. So you know, I would
move on from him quickly. But no, I wasn't real encouraged.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, I hear you. We have some comments that do
want to get to. Let's see Marley does say it.
It was encouraging seeing the adjustments in the second we
were I guess you mean second half we were without
our best offensive players. Also seeing our top two draft
picks perform. Well, yeah, he's encouraging. Love that, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Cuba and uh and and Campbell.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah yeah, uh Bretty Cliffs does say in regards to
the possibility of signing Mike Hilton Corner, I think they
should keep Cooper in the slot no matter what. Such
an important position for faedo defense, and Cooper being in
the slot, it's really significant for the run defense too.
I agree with that. I worry about moving just because.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
If there is a caveat there, it would be that
Campbell and mccouba might make it less crucial. Uh, we
don't really know yet. We're going off one game, which
is really not any kind of sample size at all.
I would rather keep Cooper in the slot. But if
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you're gonna get killed on the outside all day, then
I would start thinking about doing something else and we'll
just see. You know, one game isn't enough to change everything.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
What do you think more encouraged or concerned?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
So I think it's encouraging. Like I knew it wasn't
gonna be perfect. I knew there was gonna be a
lot of issues its first week. You know, it's a
division game, it's the Cowboys. You know a lot of
your starters didn't really play. You're without your your star
player for the the entire games, and that kind of
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changed everything. Like like I said before the game started,
I didn't want the Dori Jackson in there. I wanted Bennett.
I was willing to risk whenever I needed to risk
with Bennett as opposed to with Dori Jackson. And we
saw what happened. Ceedee Lamb blessed him in the name
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of the Father and Son in the Holy Spirit, like
like he is, he is, Ceedee Lamb. But maybe maybe
Bennett doesn't give up one hundred and five yards on
five catches.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Maybe he gives up.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Eighty eighty yards or seventy yards.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
On they were that Lamb dropped a couple. Yes, it
was interesting in the Dallas media. You know, I watched
the game. I thought he had two real drops and
in that last glass last gas pass where he was
laying out, I thought that was like not really a drop.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I don't I would classify as a drop.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
In the Dallas media it was six drops.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, well he has a he's a drop problem like that.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But I mean he didn't drop six passes. I mean,
give me a break here, you know, I mean to them,
it was all about if CD lemm had just caught
those passes, the Cowboys would have won by well you know, no,
you know it was not six drops.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Here's my my issue with that, and I know Ryan
swooped to say that too, is if cd Lamb caught passes,
he goes lose that game. Him dropping past is the
only reason why they were Now, Like, I don't I
have an issue kind of with that statement because if
we have to stop acting like the drops are an
outlier when.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
It comes to C.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
D Lamb, Cede Lamb has throughout his whole career had
issues with drops.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Because if you're going to give C. D Lamb those
catches give Mitchell the interception.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
So it is part of who he is and therefore
it's part of the game. It's part of how good
the Cowboys execute. So like, I don't I get.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The Cowboys were fortunate to get out of there with
a four point loss. I thought it should have been
an eleven point loss. I think if there hadn't been
an hour long delay the second that the Evils recovered
that fumbel, I think they would have scored on that drive.
We'll never know, but that's what I think. I don't
And you know, I don't think they would have looked back.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Frankly, yep, I honestly believe too. I think the defense
is really clamped down. They used that that break to
their advantage, and you saw them really come out and
be like, Okay, this is what we're gonna do to
you guys, and it's the offensive struggled therefore. But I mean, like,
at least it was on both sides, right, So I
hear that. So I because of that, I'm gonna say
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I slightly leaning towards.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I slightly leaning.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Toward agreed to the poll.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Because of you know, all the other factors, like we
kind of hit hinted on, like Jenn Carter wasn't in there,
and to adjust like that right out the gate is tough.
I liked the adjustments that that uh Vic Fangio did
in terms of in the second half you saw so
in the first half you saw Queen and Mitchell, he
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followed and traveled with George Pickens, but in the second
half they switched it up and had him follow ceedee lamb,
which in personally to me, which is what I would
have done. I thought it was weird that he was
following Pickens just because and It's not because I think
Pickens is bad. It's Pickens is a really good wide receiver.
I think it's more so because I think that matchup
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I would love to I prefer to see Queenon's skill
set against a guy like Lamb who is a good
route runner and good in the slot. You know.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
So I.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Liked that matchup, and you know, I'm glad they made
that switch. And you saw in the second half the guys,
I think it was you know, you blast. You mentioned
how the defense kind of they were getting run on
in the first half. I think you saw, you know,
it starts with Jordan Davis. You saw guys like a
Jomo and Young really start to play better against the
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run compared to how they were earlier in the game.
And then obviously we know the linebackers they stood out.
They were playing so well, Cooper Dejean playing so well.
So I think that was it was just collectively they
started to figure they started to settle down, starry to
figure things out more. Things weren't perfect, but I think
you saw, you know them really bared down and just
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show that they're the more talented side of the ball.
They had the better matchups. Talent wise and just over time,
it played out that way. It played out the way
over time, So I was more encouraged with with the
with the defense. Anything else you guys want to highlight
or focus on defensively, Uh, And that's either before we
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talk about the offense.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Joh Camel just looks so good that that's I need
to rub this in your face. I was wrong. I
was wrong. I was wrong backer backer until they turned
for the right.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Did you see him run the pole in that one
rep in uh in Tampa two? Oh my god, that's
like he is a bicho. Oh my god. To be
that good in coverage already is amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
It's uh. And it's I guess if you live long enough,
you know, I mean, the Eagles of five, ten, fifteen
years ago never dreamed about having linebacking like they. It's
it's just a real I understand. It's Fangio and that's why,
and that's what he needs for his defense. But in
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fact I understood that before a lot of people when
who kept saying that they weren't going to re sign
Zach Bond and blah blah blah. You know, but it
still is amazing to think what the Eagles stance was
for so many years and this is such a change.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, it is such a change show.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. I love that.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I'm very excited to see what.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
The duo of Campbell and Bond, and you can you
could argue Bond probably had the I don't want to
say the play of the game, but it led to
the play of the game with their first one ball
on Miles, Bond chasing down Miles on that run a.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Touchdown, reaching at top speed of what was it twenty
point five eight miles.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
An hour for a linebacker, and not to be outdone,
we saw Zach Bond also run the ball on Tampa
too and break up that pass with his helmet in
the end zone. So yeah, you know, having two covered
linebackers like that, it's amazing, absolutely amazing. So kudos to
the defense. Let's switch it up to the offense. And
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we have some comments about, you know, regarding the offense
and how we saw it. So Ryan Spelpe, he does
ask Brown only one attempt, he should be mad. I
don't like that. He wasn't. Well, maybe he was, but
he hit it well, I don't Ryan, That's like, are
you are you insinuating that there should be drama because
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I don't I don't know why you'd want that. And
two I I honestly don't think a brown is fully healthy.
I think if you saw him out there, that's my.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Diversion. Like if you like, there wasn't even many like
like a lot of guys I who talk about watching
the All twenty two, like supposedly, there just wasn't many
routes where you're like, oh, yeah, he's definitely open, he's
gonna be available, this is a real route. He was
running his routes like half speed at times from what
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I was being told. And even if you look at
Devonte Smith as well, like there wasn't like a lot
of plays where it was open. Like the Cowboys schemed
it well.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
And yeah, the other corners played really well, played cover
four quarters the pretty much the whole the whole game
like that's they they played over the top with that show,
and they really made an effort to prevent big plays
and the corners, like you said, people, the corners played well.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
That's what makes that game. Even though if you look
at the the the the numbers in terms of total
yardage and yards per attempt for for for Jillen Hurts.
Even though he didn't pass the ball down the field
a lot, he it was a really good game because
he took what was there. He didn't anything, and he
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gave turnovers nothing even close to a tourney exactly exactly.
So it was an amazing game by Dylan Hurts too,
pretty much like he kind of showed that like you can,
you don't have to put up gaudy numbers to be
able to play a really really really well, you know,
really upstanding now.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
So I saved this tweet from earlier today. This is
from Brendan deeg Jaalen Hurts week one rankings among QB's
completion percentage number one, QBR one, uh CPOE one, EPA
generated third, and then it's the sex success rate fourth.
So while he didn't have the gaudy numbers and everything,
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he was efficient. He did what he needed to do.
He played like an elite quarterback does. The funniest part
is always, oh, he doesn't have the numbers and it's
an issue. But when Shoe Burrow does it, Oh my god,
what a winner. That's what he does. He just win.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
And why do you have to compare it to I
don't know why you Because it's not.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
A problem when it hurts, does it. It's a giant problem.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
It's insecurity.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Insecurity, man, it's a DOUBLET was awesome. Alan is awesome,
Lamar is awesome, Hurts is awesome. They're all awesome. I
don't know why it's we're.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Talking about offense. Kevin Petula. First half, I was like,
oh my god, this guy's a genius. This is great.
He's s and then after the after the fumble recovery,
his idea was to run it into the middle of
the line about thirty times. I just, you know, I
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came away with no idea of what Kevin Petula wants
out of his offense. Frankly, there was some motion early.
There was you know, under center early, and then everything
became handing it off to Saquan and him getting killed.
You know, Landon Dickerson's trying to play hurt and then
goes out of the game, and they're running it into
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the middle of the line over and over and over
again with a four point lead. It's not like they
were up twenty. You know. I was not happy with
that development. And Marley's point here about the route concepts,
I think that's part of it too. That's something that
we've seen before with this team. What is the deal
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with these route concepts that don't seem to be to
generate anything, you know, I mean, other teams manage with
lesser wide receivers to scheme them open, and you just
don't see a lot of that with the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I don't know why. Like I was good with
I thought to play golong overall. Even the route concepts
were fine in the first half, I mean the second
I was supposedly after the delay, that's when they're really like,
what are you doing now? I know that I saw
someone suggests or I heard someone suggest I don't know
if it's fran Duffy, I don't know if it was
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someone else on Twitter, but they had mentioned it seemed
as though right after the delay they they kind of
played a conservative approach and said, we're just not going
to lose this game.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
We're gonna take what it is.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
And like, I don't like whether that's good or bad.
I mean, I know we couldn't have came out with
the win. Maybe that was the reason behind it, okay,
but regardless, like you do want to see more and
I don't know what it is about this team. And
this goes back to the Doug Peterson days when he
was our coach and Colin plays and you know all
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the offensive corners we had then at that time. But
for some reason, the Eagles, I swear, were like the
number one team when it comes to running Hank, Like
Hank is like the the go to for this team
in certain situations. And I don't know why that route concept,
it's a basic high school route concept or that that.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
For some reason he goes love.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I don't know why. I do not know why. It
drives me nuts. Whenever we see just running five curls,
it just it's annoying. But hey, they run it. I
don't know, we will what I will say, it's a
little bit early to it's so early to get on
Kevin Batula, you know, one game in and let's let's
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let's pump the brakes and be a little bit more patient.
I know there's it's PTSD from Ben Johnson. I get it,
and I totally understand, and I would only hope that
it doesn't lead to Brian Juntans.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I apologize PTSD from Brian Duncan. I would only hope
it doesn't get to that level of concern. It doesn't
get that bad, but it's it's weak one. Let's see,
let's give.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Kevin Batoula a little bit more patient a little bit.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
I mean, we're actually giving a goal line touches. So
I think we're doing a little bit better than Brian
Johnson calling plays. Also, Julio Jones is not here, uh
getting screens, so.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah, instead getting the screens, which happened did well. And
you know, we had some screenplays and I was just like, okay,
like Jahan Dotson, Johan Dodson, uh, and I had said this,
I know, we we kind of all agreed that I
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really think if Johan just does this consistently all this
this year, where he provides one or two big plays,
crucial plays a game, and that wide receiver three shot
man's absolute win for the Eagles, and I think he's
absolutely capable of I still think he's very talented and
for a wide receiver three, he could he could be
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one of the better ones in the league.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
He's a wide receiver three.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
And I really think it was all about getting Hurts
comfortable with them, you know, And that's going to come
out as a knock as it hurts. It really isn't.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
But he with the corn back, if he show it
up like three weeks before the season starts, it doesn't help.
Like they were somebody was talking about on Twitter and
I said, what do you think clicked for him this year?
I said, last year he was a guy. This year
he's a teammate. Yeah, because when you're just here like
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a few weeks before the season starts, like nothing, there's
no chemistry, there's no comfortability, there's like, I'm not used
to you. You don't know what I like. I don't
know what you like.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
But if you're quarterback needs that, but Jalen does and
Jalen's you know, Jalen's just fine with me. That's just
one of the things you have to, you know, bake
into the equations.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah, I mean there are quarterbacks that have their preferences
like that. I know it's not to this degree. And
I'm not saying hurts is this guy, But I always
remember Peyton Manning was such a stickler for certain things
and the way his wide receivers would would do certain
things and if you didn't do it properly, you you
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were not getting the ball. If you weren't doing it
exactly the way he wanted to. So it's some quarterbacks
are like that, and so it's just it's part of it.
And I'm glad that chemistry has built between the two
of them because I think it could pay dividends. And
I mean, if agent we were already seeing Agie Brown
being hurt heading into week one, and god forbid, we're
gonna get hit with more injuries. But if if that's
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the case, I do have faith in Johan to be
able to step.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Up and make plays when we need him to do.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
So I want to see him more.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
John Matchie, Yeah maybe.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I mean, like it's another instance where he came on
late in the season, so I don't know. Yeah, I
don't know how much he can contribute, but I mean
it is nice to have him here. It is very
nice to have him here.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
But it all starts with the offensive line. And I
want to hear that Landon Dickerson is basically okay. I
think everybody assumes you know that, well, he'd lipped off,
but he'll be okay for next week. And that's you know,
not all injuries are like that. We'll see I sure
hope because he's a pretty important player for this team.
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And the offensive line did not have a wonderful second
half at all in any phase really, you know, did
not look very good. And they need Dickerson out there.
There's no doubt about it. He did was solid, he
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really was.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
During my life was.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Really good and Jurgen's was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
But the side, yeah, the left side was had their
issues during my lot of Look, he got beat a
couple of times, and I'm just like, come on, like
it's it's it's it's a hanger down here a little bit.
But I mean everyone has.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
A bad game.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
I'm not Yeah, I'm not panicking with Jordan, but yeah,
the Lendon Dickerson thing, you would only hope I'm I am.
I I don't want to speak ill of him because
I know he was hurt and him trying to tough
fit out probably was like so difficult for him. And
I give kudos to him him trying to really be
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out there, you know, but I think at some point
you commend the toughness. At some point you got to
realize that like if you're out yeah, yeah, you just
you become a detriment. And so, you know, kudos to him,
but at some point, Yeah, it was. It was the
right thing to get him out and put toff toff in.
And so we'll see again, it's week one. Crazy things
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happened in week one, and we have to just remember patients.
There's a lot of stuff that we experienced even last
year where there was a lot of concerns we had
and spoke of it's a long season and so things
absolutely can change. So let's let's let them change. And so, uh, last,
before you go ask this around or you know, around
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the horn here, if there's one adjustment, either offense or defense,
you want to see, what is the one thing you
want to see be implemented as early as next week
against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
LUs Well, the easiest one is the CB two situation
that you court. Maybe Bennett playing CB two and them
straightening that out somehow. Maybe it's tied to a better
pass rush. I think that's quite likely, and I think
they will get a better pass rush against Kansas City.
I guess I I'll stick with that. I'd like to
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see him run the ball more consistently, well read like
they used to do it, rather than just you know,
falling all over each other like they were last week
sometimes and again, I think they'll run it pretty well
against Kansas City as well. So, but I definitely want
to see the corner situation. I don't want to see,
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you know, Patrick Mahomes running it up with some he
didn't even have good wide receivers. You know, I don't
want to see Worthy out there with his arm in
a sling catching one one handed.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Right is brace on and he's catching one hand to
win and in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
You definitely don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Pu, I what's one adjustment you want.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
To see moving forward for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
We're talking offense or defense or ball whatever you want
to do. Uh doorrig Jackson, Uh not being my CV two.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Well that's what Les just said.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So you maybe maybe some some creativity in the route trees,
maybe uh some better scheming for our wide receivers. Uh
let me see maybe a little bit. I'd like to
see continuously more for Dallas Goddard because I like to
because I like what I saw from him early on.
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Because we get this thing with Dallas Goddard to where
he'll get like a few targets here and there, and
then like something will happen or they'll just go away
from him for like three games and then he gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Yeah mm hmm, yeah, no, I hear you. I I
want to see. I want to see on the offensive
ground game get going again. I want to see them
really start to hanker down and establish establish themselves again
on the ground and bounce back. Because that's now two games,
if you go back to the Super Bowl, two games
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in a row, one ironically against the Chiefs and then
against the Cowboys where the ground game wasn't activated really well.
And so I'm not saying it's a concern, but I'd
just like to see it. I'd like to see what
Kevin Patulo has to in terms of the playbook to
throw some really nice wrinkles. I know he has it,
you know, because we saw a lot of under center,
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some some pistol and and stuff like that in the
first self, I want to continue to see what else
you can add to that that rue dimension. So h yeah,
that's what i'd say. Uh less, thank you for coming
on with us again as always time. Yeah, good to
see you. And then hopefully next week will be talking
about a Chiefs win.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Alrighty, we'll be fresh off of the game next week.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I said to me I met Eagles win over the Chiefs.
I apologize, I just realized that the Chiefs win. But yeah,
Eagles win over the Chiefs win versus the Chiefs. Yeah,
all right, lest we'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
By lass.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
That's Bowen doing boning on the words with us. Pe
Why anything else from that game or if you want
to touch on anything moving forward?
Speaker 4 (49:24):
And uh to week two in this matchup against the Chiefs, the.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Super Bowl rematch, the one that you want to see
so badly I.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Do, because it's never happened. No team is that, No
team has ever faced each other three times in the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
I know, like that's like that's like an ultimate rivalry.
Like ever you tell me you wouldn't have liked this,
like like what's what's say happens somewhere else? Wouldn't have
been crazy to see Ey versus Brady like for a
third time? Not really, you know what I mean? Like
I would be very excited to watch that in the
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Super Bowl just because it was just like that rubber match.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Man.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
I don't know, I don't have the same excitement you do.
I'd like to see the Eagles face another team. I'm
not saying I don't. I'm not saying I would hate
the matchup and and complain about it. I'm just saying,
like I don't share the excitement. I'm not ecstatic about it.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
I'd be okay with push pushing the Bills into Infinity
and beyond. I'd be fine with beating the Ravens. I'd
be fine with beating the Bengals, But just getting that
third matchup versus Mahomes would just be just it would
be historic.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Already, all right. I mean, I'm sure there's people that
agree with you. I just I don't.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
I would rather not see that.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
But it is what it is. I'm trying to think
of anything else. Josh ucc Oh, yeah, he played really well.
He's the top great the defensive player in the NFL
based on PFF.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Yeah, I'll then screw that.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
So what that's still impressive?
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Screw that.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
No, I don't need PF to tell me that just
uh played a really good game. Uh yeah, he played
really well. Trying to think of anything else, I mean,
uh yeah, I think that's all I got predictions for
for this upcoming game.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Or I think I think we beat the Chiefs like decisively.
Like there's no there's not gonna be any worthy. There's
no Rashi Rice like, it's just a bunch of guys.
You know, Pacheco still doesn't look like himself.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
What, yes, he does. He just only had I don't
I don't know why. He didn't have a lot of touches.
But when he touched the ball, he looked like his
old self. I don't know what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
I disagree with that.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
That's fine, I just I'm not I'm not worried about
the chiefs like I think. I just think they look
old and they don't.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
They look like they don't have why special help when
it comes to the offensive side of the wall, like
other than homes like like and all the l works
for so long, like they always talk about, Oh, you
know Patrick's like Brady, you know he can he can
elevate anybody until he doesn't have any Boddy and then
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you need guys like you can't just be thrown.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
I'm not going to I think we do win. I'm
not going to say in fact that you get you
you your homer self likes to get ahead of yourself,
just like last year, you guarantee wins and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
I was right, I was everything.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
So no, you guarantee a blowout. It wasn't a blowout
in that game. I remember you guaranteed we would blow.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
I was believing in my coach and you would breaks
down in it and just yourself.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
You get way too ahead of yourself. It's okay, I'm
not gonna so ahead.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I'll give you some time to catch up. That's just
a service.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
I am not going to predict a blowout against the Chiefs,
especially since decisive it, especially since we'll be in Kansas City.
But I do think we're going to win. I think
we're going to beat the Chiefs. I just think that
with the Chiefs wide receiver room being banged up, you know,
(53:31):
Worthy is probably not going to play, and they're still
I say banged up, but I should say like not
ideally right now because they have wide receiver. Obviously she
races out and then Worthy is out. So I think
we will talk about a game where a Dory can
bounce back if it does start. You know, if there's
a game he could bounce back again. It could beat
(53:53):
this game. But I won't guarantee it. But I'm just
saying I think we will. We will win, and I
think we will come on top of this Sunday, but
we shall see. I think that's all I got py
any last thoughts, go birds.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
Go birds.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
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(54:29):
listening right now, we have a rare opportunity tomorrow night.
Film Don't Lie will be live tomorrow because there is
no hockey apprs, so we have the opportunity to go live.
So we will be live. I think we're gonna go
on around nine ninet thirty something like that. But so
just make yourself available so you can catch Pete and
I Pete Evans that is, and I talk about the
(54:51):
NFL and break down some film and talk some more
football with you. So tune in tomorrow night to catch
with us and catch that with us and talks some
more So talks more football. But for myself, for p
y N, for the rest of the A two D family,
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Speaker 4 (55:11):
Peace,
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