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November 26, 2025 70 mins
Eagles vs Bears Prediction and Preview for NFL Week 13 on Black Friday. Are the 8-3 Eagles in trouble against the surging 8-3 Bears?
The Philadelphia Eagles are in crisis mode after blowing a 21-point lead to Dallas, while Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears have won 4 straight and are hunting for the #1 seed in the NFC North. In this Black Friday NFL breakdown, we analyze if Jalen Hurts can bounce back or if the Bears' defense will expose Nick Sirianni's team on national TV.
Also, with Thanksgiving approaching, we’ll mention a few things from the 2025 NFL Season that we’re most thankful for!
Finally, we’ll finish up with our “No Huddle” segment where we quickly touch on topics that come to mind, both NFL-related and unrelated
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= Show Segments / Video Chapters =
00:00 Introductions
01:25 Eagles Offensive Issues
14:23 Who is most to blame?
33:05 Eagles vs Bears Preview
45:10 Film Room: Kyle Monangai
50:49 NFL Things We’re Thankful For
59:32 No Huddle


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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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(00:51):
o GP Pete Evans, my brother. How are you? I
know I'm not doing too well, but I'm getting better
after that really really bad loss. But how are you
hanging in?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I mean football has this place? Could not join you
last week? Do the technical difficulties? Thank xxtinity it happened
a lot lately. Just I don't know's I don't want
to go on to die drop don't well man, great
week puts everything in perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Uh, and we'll get into it.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
They needed a loss like this though, for everybody to
take it serious and not have the little quiet voices
of what may be going on this that and the
third will be kind of saying the run game.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
A lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Focuses on the past game, specifically with number eleven, but
really what keeps this offense going and keeps them efficient.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's hard to do that in the past. I mean, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Really hard to do it in any facet in today's
football if you don't have some resemblance of an effective
run game, right, very.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Few teams have been able to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
We've seen it with Kansas City they kind of can
get it done. But even with Brashar Smith and Kareem Hunt,
with Pop check or being hurt being out, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Not so much.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I think it's a culmination of why people still may
be struggling with it. It's the fact that it was
a twenty one nothing lead in any sense, right, But
it was the fact of who you.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Were playing, yeah, and how it happened, and.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
It wasn't like and it wasn't like we put up
twenty one and they immediately answered with twenty one like
it was forty two minutes, because they last scored with
eighteen minutes, like eighteen minutes into the game. And it
was just like you're watching death by like a thousand
paper cuts. Man, it was drive at the drive that

(02:43):
was inefficient. And then like you said that, like the
uncharacteristic things that this team did, I mean, we're really
going to get into a preview or just a Friday's game,
So for us, this is a little bit to kind
of get what you've been already talking about out a
little bit. It was just that you hear Nick Tay

(03:04):
tough detail together, tough details together.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, it's funny you say, you say uncharacteristic, but we're
at a point where it's characteristic of this team.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well not so much.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
When I say uncharacteristic, I'm not speaking about the inefficiencies
of the offense. I'm talking about the extra possessions given
back to Dallas, Like they haven't had a game to
where this this almost felt like a game from like
everything just kind of the proverbial pimple had hit the head, right,
you know what I mean, everything came, everything came to

(03:38):
to erupt everything came to a head when I'm thirteen,
I think it was fourteen penalties to mostly ever had.
I mean, they literally doubled up the Cowboys on penalties,
some questionable, some self afflicted, you know, Fred Johnson not
reporting or illegal shifts in there. And that the byproduct
that is these those plays that that happened on were
effective plays, yes, they were chumped like plays, right, So

(04:00):
now you take those off board, and I mean you
have the Saquon fumble and then you you have zaber
Gibson for whatever reason, catch the ball inside of the five.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
So when you have a loss like that, that is
a loss for the whole team, coaches and everybody in
the organization to say, hey, like, we can't just get
through this and with these struggles like we have been, Yeah,
we've been getting lucky with winning the game. And they
probably win this game if they don't have the sa
Quond fumber, they don't have zaber Gibson fumble, they probably
realistically do win this game, which now gets us to

(04:33):
another week of hey they're nine and two, it's not
really that bad, when in reality, it.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Really is that bad.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So that's why I say, from a bird's eye view,
now no pun attended. This is a loss that they
needed because now this makes this makes the Boogey monster real.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
But it's almost like so I had said this like
shortly after the game, I think this is now the
crossroads of the of the season for the Eagles. We
don't want to and I know the guys last time
on Eagles Talk, they dove into this kind of we

(05:16):
don't want to compare it over and over to twenty
twenty three in that collapse, right, we just we know,
like it's a different defense and everything like that. I
get it. But if I'm talking about the situation, I
think this is the crossroad crossroads where how they respond
because this is this loss is essentially similar to the

(05:38):
loss of the Niners back in twenty twenty three, where
that loss of the Niners that's what started the the
nose dive of the season. It was just like they
have Yeah, they exposed us for all the flaws we
had during you know, leading up to that that we're
getting by with now with the Cowboy the same thing,

(06:01):
all of our all of our stuff, all of our issues.
We've been skating by skating by and it got to
a point, like you said, it's just it came to
a head. It just it couldn't hold anymore. And when
you have, you don't have the you know, the the luck.
But also like when things kind of like kind of

(06:21):
we talk about momentum, and I know Jalen Hurts doesn't
believe in momentum, but for those that do, and that's
a separate conversation if you do or not, but for
those that do, like you kind of just saw it
was building and building, and Dallas kept going and going,
and when you had that momentum, it was hard to
even when the Eagles had their opportunities in the game
to either go ahead or put it away whatnot, it

(06:44):
just felt like it wasn't our night because like the
the Saquan fumble, right, and then the Gibson fumble is
just like what are you doing? And you can't get
by like that, you can no longer get by, So like,
now what do they do at the Tampa Bay game?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
But they held on to win the Tampa Bay game?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, and this wasn't Yeah, So it's it's definitely
the crossholds of this season. And so you know we're
here to know. A lot of people probably at this
point is recap the game talked about, you know a
lot of the stuff that happened from that, and have
their opinions. I don't want to get too much into

(07:25):
that because we're one. It's a lot of the same stuff.
Like we we've gone I think we've had like one
or two episodes now where we've talked about the issues
of the Eagles offense and how to get it fixed.
It's the same thing. I don't like, there's no point
in diving too much into what needs to be fixed.
From a recap standpoint. What what is this now going

(07:48):
to look like as we head into Black Friday Eagles
versus Bears. We and it's it's really like as our
graphics says, it's a it's a tale of two eight
and three teams trending in opposite directions. Right that the
Bears how many how many games they win in a round? Now?
Four or five? Someone like that.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I want to say, I want to say four, but
I mean they've kind of had a little bit of luck.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
And I'll and I'll say this, it's like.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Going into the season, obviously the finished Super Bowl champions
you know.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
That there's gonna have to be some maturations.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Some growth, right, and a lot of the emphasis has
been on the players right, and the health bug has
not been on the side like it was last year.
That's one but I would say, as people are wary
of if this is another twenty twenty three part two
apart two, right, the maturation of the players. We've seen

(08:49):
it in jail, and we've seen it kind of happen.
We've seen it somewhat, we've seen it. We've seen it
avontee Aja maybe not be the full sholfic. I still
don't think he's right from the hamstring. It is what
it is, But I don't think we've seen enough maturation
from one head coach Nick Sirianni, and I think a

(09:11):
lot and that when when I say that is it's
one of the key things. And this is one of
the only times I will say that this person is
better as a in the profession than the person I
believe is to go.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
But one thing I.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Take away from Lebron James is the fact that he
says you have to be comfortable being uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
And I think a lot of what we're seeing.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Right now from an ex's and old standpoint, and you
were saying, he can say what he wants to say
in the press conference, but the film doesn't lie, right.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Pun intended.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Complacency will get you stagnated. And that's what I think
we've seen through this first eleven games. I don't know
what happened in the Giants game. It's almost and you
kind of see it. It's almost like if they don't
have an answer to our zig and that zag isn't there,
we get what the second Giants game look like, or
you have it for thirty minutes, you get what the
Rams comeback look like, or you get with the first

(10:04):
quarter against Tampa Bayla like, or you get the first
eighteen minutes of what Dallas looked like this past Sunday.
But when the Zags start answering the Zigs, we don't
have another move. Either we don't have another move, or
the sequencing or the execution isn't there. And it's multi faceted, right,
And what we saw Sunday was multifaceted from poor execution,

(10:26):
poor play call, and poor sequencing and self afficted penalties.
It was a culmination of all day. So it's a
jumble layah of losing football and now you just hope
that we've seen this team respond in a fashion to
write the ship the last eighteen months. But there is

(10:51):
doubt if people are going into Friday feel as if
it's a tough spot. Right, it's a weird spot. It's
Friday night game, Friday the game. You know it is
at home, so that's thankful, but it is coming off
of a holiday as well. I think you are catching
the Bears at a good time, but also at the

(11:12):
same time you're talking about the offense that's maybe not
if super efficient, it's been more efficient than ours. And
there's balance as well. DJ Moore and Doonsday, Luther Bird
and Cole sa Loveland, Cole Kmment office lines plaint decent.

(11:34):
I mean, we'll see what Fangio can do. But like
you said, like you said, you was like this is
this is a matchup of teams. One team is on
the silvery slope up and the other team.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Maybe a slipper slope down. And with as much talent
as we have, we take that for granted, right, But
talent has to play. Coaches have to coach, and they
have to and they have to do the things in
the right way.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
You can look at Sunday's games, say if four or
five things didn't happen, they win that game. So do
we go into this game saying, hey, like it will
be okay if we just shore that up.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I don't. For me personally, I don't think that's enough.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I don't think it's enough because it's also it's not
even just going into the you know this, it is
going into this matchup, yes, because this Bears. This Bear
team is not one you can take lightly, because they
have the weapons. Like you just said, you have offensive line,
and they have to add to that the running backs.
What you'll get into with the one rookie, common young

(12:41):
guy who I've been preaching for and then a familiar
face in Deonder Swift. So like they have talent that
that side of the ball. You take them lightly, they
will make you pay it, you know. And we didn't
even talk about Ben Johnson, who's doing a great job
reach on with this team. It's like the total is
what we are missing on that side. So you you

(13:01):
can't take this for granted. But at the same time,
if you want to look at beyond just this Friday,
you have to start start fixing this stuff. It is
we you know me, Like the beginning of the year,
I'm like, be patient, Like it's a long season, you know,
let these guys grow and develop as a season goes on.
And I preach that. But now we're getting into the

(13:23):
nitty gritty. Now we're getting into Thanksgiving. This is where
teams have to start establishing their identities and being like, Okay,
this is who we are and this is how we're
going to go into the playoffs and make that deep
playoff runt. The changes have to have happened now. So
you can't just rest on your laurels and you can't

(13:46):
just say, Okay, we'll be okay, because we just won't.
Well happens someday, won't happen again. Well, like you said,
that's not enough. That's not enough. And I don't care
if you're playing a Bears, who are know just it's
it's a house money because no one expected them to
be this good at eight and three, or playing the

(14:08):
Bills in a couple of weeks, who's another you know,
contender for the Super Bowl. Like, no matter who you play,
you have to make sure you are fixing stuff on
your end and doing and doing things on your end
that you can control and make better. Let me ask
you this before we get into the details of the
matchup and both sides of the ball. Who what do

(14:32):
you think and this is we we both agree there
are a lot of problems, like everyone deserves bling out
on the offensive side of the ball. What do you
think is the biggest issue? Is it coaching or is
it the offensive line? Because that's the big debate right now,
especially on Twitter. We have half the fan base things

(14:53):
it's it's coaching with whether it's Sirianni or you know,
Kevin Patulo, and the other half says it's it's it's
simply the offensive line and how they're not the dominant
run blocking unit that they once.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Were for the overall success of the offense.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
It's I would say it is the offensive line play
because you're literally taking away a facet of the team
when we talk about this team on paper and you
look at who do we want.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
To stop, Like who's who's our main focus?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
From a defensive court ender standpoint, you're pretty much negating
Sequan's impact based off the inefficiency of the run game,
which is also having an impact on the passing game.
I will say from the coaching standpoint, of that if
it's shot like a like a one hundred percent pie, right,
I would say eighty percent offensive line because the run
game not being efficient in the run game is severely

(15:47):
hurting this team, and it's hurting the team from the
standpoint of just being able to have sustained games where
you you're having the effective drives from the coaching stanmdpoin
point tied to the offensive line, I don't think the
run scheme fits are doing any favors. That's we only
talked about KP being creative in the passing game. Guess

(16:08):
what for the last Obviously he is the passing game cordner, right,
who's the run game corner? If I'm not mistaken, it's
stout something.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Listen, I get it.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
When your team is just better than the other guy
and are executing at a level better than the other
guy that they're blocking. You can be very basic and
very vanilla and you would know this better than me.
Is there levers that they can pull from a run
game standpoint scheme wise that we haven't seen to counter

(16:39):
to account for our deficiencies or ineffectiveness with run blocking.
Is that a level that that they can pull?

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Let me answer. Let me answer it this way. Okay,
So you so you say it's eighty percent the run
block in the offensive line, that's the biggest issue.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
And I would or as the key once again, as
the key as you phrase the question. And I'm not
trying to misinterpret the question, but how I perceive it
is what is the key for them to have? So
we don't have this conversation about offense and when you
have Saquon, but I think he averaged two or three

(17:22):
yards to carry. And it's not so much about just
the office line, but it's also what that defense was
doing before and quiet as cat. People didn't see it
on Sunday and you're watching the game, but they had
every time when Sakon was in the backfold. For the
most part, there are three the three best d tackles
in the game. They had five fronts, five man fronts

(17:44):
stop to run. So from that standpoint, yeah, maybe you
can say the coach has to do the pass game,
has to do something little bit better to take that
pressure off. But that's that's what I that's just my
very initial gut feeling on it. It's just if the
run game was more effective, not is what it would be.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Last year, Beau. Last year was historic, right, but it's
a far cry from that.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Can we get anywhere back halfway to that to help
alleviate that pressure that's on the passing game to where
you do have some stagnant.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Drives, you do have some stagnant plays and you kind
of feel like you're stalling a little bit.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
That's something that you could rely Like last year we
felt this at the run game was something we can
rely on, right and now this year through eleven weeks,
I don't feel as if and there has been.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
In and out in a line of health wise for
the for the offensive line. That's for me.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I think that would be the easiest solution. So I
think that aussolve a lot of issues, a lot of
pressure off the rest of the offense if we can
execute or whatever levers we can prove pool to get
say Kuan going to get bigsby going and meaningful, meaningful attempts,

(19:00):
not these second and twenties.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Seeing a six person box, two extra bodies. Yep.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, So okay, So I'll answer I will answer your
question this way, and it's gonna be a long way
to answer. But Lake, this is where I do disagree,
and I disagree with a lot of people online that
are saying, like, it's it's the it's the offensive line,
it's the run blocking, which is a huge issue. Let's
let's get that there, Like, this is the worst offensive

(19:28):
line at least in terms of run blocking that we've
seen in wild it is, while maybe like twenty twenty,
I think it was, But the thing is that line
was bad because everyone was injured. Every single week we
saw like a different combination of offensive lineman. I think
for I forget six to eight weeks straight, we had

(19:49):
a different combination offensive mide. So like that you could understand,
but that's not so much the case with this one.
With this offensive line, So that is still a big problem.
And I don't want to make it seem like I'm
saying that it's not a big problem. You know, obviously
we've we've harped on it already. Penalties have been a
big problem. Operations has been a big problem. Continually having

(20:11):
to snap the ball with one second left on the
play clock. That's like, that's just you're killing yourself with that.
But so there are multitude of stuff, but to me,
the biggest problem, if I'm going to place blame at
at at someone and say, like you are the this

(20:33):
is the number one thing to blame right now with
this offense and why they're struggling. To me, it's absolutely coaching.
It's absolutely coaching. So let me bring it back, like
before the season, and I said it a lot before
the season started. You know, I was hopeful that the
run game would sequan, you know, it would still be
great even though it may not have been what it

(20:55):
was last season. I was hopeful it would still be
really good and the foundation of the offense we continue
to be like a run first offense. But I also
kind of knew and I even said that, like defenses
are going to counter us. They're going to throw a
counter punch. They always do, you know, whenever it comes

(21:16):
to the top offenses, year after year, the defense is
going to look at them, study them, and offer a
CounterPunch to what the top offenses are doing around the league.
So defenses are going We're going to prioritize stopping our
run game and stopping Saquon, and that's what they continue
to do. And then so it was expected, or at

(21:37):
least it should have been expected by most of us that, hey,
our run game is going to have a lot of
tough games out there where they can't be the reason
we win. So the passing game was going to have
to take the next step forward. And you, I mean
you add in the fact that we never again Pete

(21:58):
how I've said this since the loss of the Commanders,
we don't have the backup tight ends to support of
you know, a heavy you know, running out of these
heavy packages, right like, we don't have the blocking tight
ends after God.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
It so and a theory on paper, it sounds it
sounds like it should be affected.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
But the concept, the conceptual execution of it, and the
roster that you have, you don't have that other guy,
that's what you don't have.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I really think at the trade inadline, the second tight
end we've been saying it like that was huge to
get someone that could that could truly truly run block
as a backup tight end behind God, especially.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
If you're going, if you're insistent on playing this much
twelve or even thirteen, like, you've got to have a
tight end who can who can block then, you know,
and they don't have that, So like that that's a
big reason why the run game is not working. So
if the run game is not working, like this passing

(22:59):
game would have to take that step forward. And the
that is on the OC and the play calling, right,
that's on the offense cord and the play calling. You
have to come up with ways, new wrinkles and and
new things to help the passing offense succeed. Put your

(23:21):
put your players in the in the best positions to succeed.
And you can't rely on on the same concepts as
you have been before because again defenses are going to
adjust and catch on to that. You have to add
new wrinkles in it. And and so like you have
to build upon that passing game and I touched on that,
I think on Egostocks several times, like this passing game

(23:42):
has to evolve and and there is no reason that,
like it shouldn't be unreasonable to expect the offense to
turn to the passing game to be the foundation of
you know this this the twenty twenty five because you
have so much talent. You know, you have around you

(24:04):
have Smithy, you have Godard, you have Saquon who is
a good receiver, and then you have Dots and like,
there is no reason why this passing game can't thrive
personnel wise. So what do you need. You need a
good offensive coordinator to scheme up a passing game to
make up for the struggling one game. That's what good
offensive coordinators do. So you know, I get that the

(24:28):
offensive line and the run blocking is bad, and that
was our foundation. That's how we won last year. But
you have to continue to evolve. And so if that's
not working, and that's shown now twelve weeks into the season,
it's not working, why can't you adjust and and have

(24:48):
a coach, an offensive coordinator to take this passing game
to the next level and do things to put your
your you know, your weapons in your receivers in the
right position. And we talked about Ben Johnson. That is
exactly what he does. Like he had one quote I
think he was interview I think last week where he

(25:11):
was given he was asked about like his thoughts on
fifty to fifty balls right, and he's not He said
he's not a fan of them because they're low percenters plays.
He would rather scheme guys open and get separation. That way,
get his receivers separation. That's how the offense that you know,

(25:32):
his offense philosophy is. When it comes to the passing game.
So you have so many weapons, why can't you adjust
and put your put your players and your your your
guys that you're paying in the passing game in the
right position. So that's why to me, it's it's on
coaching that is the biggest issue because it shouldn't have

(25:54):
to be this way. It shouldn't have to be hey,
it's run game or bust. No, it should be also, Okay,
you're taking away the run game, let's go to the
passing game. And so what can you said? You asked?
I mean, what can they do schematically in the run
game to improve it that they haven't already done? Right,
you're asking, like, you know, what's the Jeff Stotlin doing

(26:16):
from as the run game doorinator? At this point, if
you're not going to win in the run game because
of your personnel and because you're just better than the
other guys across it, you have to do it with scheme.
How do you do it with scheme? You marry your
run concepts with your past concepts so that the defense

(26:38):
is always guessing and they can't get a bead on
what you're doing. So you know, does that what does
that entail? Entails? Having Yeah, having plays where you're you're
having a receiver go in motion, but but showing that
you're willing to give that receiver the ball, which I
think they did like twice once with the Cowboy, So

(27:01):
that's that's good. They were able they actually gave the
person in jet motion the ball and handed it off
to them. That's good, right, very very good. Good start
marry that with a runing concept. Now you're you have
that play, show the same look and make a runout
of it so the defense is kept honest. Now what
else are you going to do? Use under center like

(27:22):
they were doing it for two or three weeks under
center and then under center play action, make the defense honest,
tie things together where now the defense can't be like, Okay,
we know what they're doing, we know exactly what they're
doing in the run game we have we're going to
jump on it and we're going to commit to it.

(27:42):
QB designed runs. It feels like every time we've we've
gone to a QB design run this season it's successful.
Maybe not no, not every single rep, but for the
most part overall it's been good. For like from what
I if I'm wrong, it's we've had success with it.
I do not know why we continue to not go
with so like again, these are just simple things. And

(28:04):
then I think that you know, honest NFL with one
of our favorite accounts on Twitter usual the post and
saying that when your run game is struggling like this,
that's where the quick game comes into play. Your quick
game is the substitute for a run game. Now, is
Jalen Hurts good at quick game? It's not his strong suit.

(28:25):
But you get I'm not We're not asking you to.
We're not asking the Eagles offense to base their base,
their whole identity now on quick game. But you've got
to incorporate it a little bit more and do some
things where you're able to now structure things from a
passing game standpoint to substitute offset the struggles of the

(28:48):
run game. That's where I think it's coaching, and I
just I don't I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
And that's why I said that the offense line would
be the easiest solution.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Maybe not the right answer, but the easier solution. Because
as you've seen with Nick, this passed.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Monday at the post game press conference. Uh, they had
the press conference. It's like very stuck and that's why
I led to from complacency, right and stagnation and the
lack of mature and the lack of the lack of
growth that we may been seeing out of Syrian because
look how I think it went last year.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I Petulla was the pass in coordinated, but it was
Kellen Moore's offense. He was the OC.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
I think Petullo may have had some general concepts. Now,
it's good when you it's in a restaurant, right if
you're at the front of the house, that's the waiting
the whole sess. The back of the house is actual kitchen,
so you have you have a line chef, sue chef.
He had the head chef. Petullo last year may have
been the line chef, the third loudest voice in the room.

(29:44):
He had minimal responsibility, minimum contribution. More so, Kellen Moore
was the head chef. Right now, you whatever that voice
was that Sirianni had half a petula and maybe interview great,
now this is his Maybe this is what we're seeing
right so conceptually, and one of the things I love
about Ben Johnson, I love about me Vey is they

(30:06):
just don't take the personnel's talent for granted that impacts
their scheme. They view it as if I had to
two at well as my ex or Davonte Adams or Puka.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I'm still I need.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
To be able to have a get a game plan
and the play that's going to get the open that's
going to freedom up.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
We obviously don't have that here, right.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
So that's where I'm just looking at this whole thing,
and that's why I agree with you from the coaches center.
But it just didn't start. They were set up to
be like this in the offseason when they made this.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
When really realistically, realistically, Nick made.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
This decision right, And I think the players brought in
a kp At first because they had he had been
around for the past five years as a pass a
gay coordinator.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
And they thought maybe he could take that next step.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
What we're saying now is some of us on the
a TWOD radio platfor was saying it four or five,
six weeks ago, some even earlier, is that he ain't
it Now after after eleven games, twelve weeks of the season,
you were finally seeing like, all right, yeah, this this
this isn't it? So now is it easier within season

(31:19):
now to make that transition to a different o because
it's not like the Raiders were Chip Kelly's now out
of a job. They're two and seven or two and eight.
This team still has aspirations to host the game, to
be the divisional champion. That's step one in this goal.
Game after game after that week at the week, I
don't know what they do from here. They have not

(31:43):
proven it to me that they can yet. And here's
the other thing. The league isn't scared regardless of what
they saw on paper. You literally were spotted twenty one
points and you did not score for almost three quarters
of the rest of the game. Yeah, there's nothing that

(32:03):
you're putting on film where like Dennis Allen, the Chicago
Bears defense court there going to this game, it's going
to be like they cannot sustain successful offense.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
To put up points sixty minutes of football. That's what
you needed to do. The whole thing.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
You're talking about something in the past game too. If
they would have put up thirty five or twenty eight
against the Cowboys twenty one to seven, come out in
the third quarter twenty eight to seven, that's where you'd
be like, hmmm, all right, maybe we can't go to
light box, and then we can't go back at the
box against Sae Kwan earlier. That's because now it looks
that they may have found something with the past game,

(32:40):
and you did it on a team that statistically has
a lackluster defense, you know what I mean, where you
let them continuously come back in the game to the
point where you ended up losing the game, win the
last like a field goal. So uh yeah, I think
that kind of puts a bow on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah. So if we're getting into the Bears. Yeah, if
we're getting into eat like the details of Eagles Bears again,
I do my whole diet tribe. They've got to schematically
find a way to get this this passing game offense
the going. So like if we're looking at the Eagles
offense versus the Bears defense, right, if I was looking

(33:20):
up the d v o A numbers, So the Eagles offense,
surprisingly d v OWAY is tenth in the league at
eight point three percent. Bears defense is like middle of
the pack in terms of d VWA zero point five percent,
which is fourteenth, right the middle of the pack. So
like I'd say, if we're looking at them and I'm

(33:41):
sure Bears fans would attest to this, like overall they're
they're not a good defense, but what they do is
they take advantage with turnovers. They make plays with turnovers.
So they actually lead the league with two point five
takeaways per game. They have twenty twenty four takeaways overall,
sixteen interceptions and eight eight fumeb over cover. So yeah,
twenty four, that's two point five game on average. So

(34:04):
that leads the weak. Uh So that's where you they
make their money. Now, the Eagles offense, we don't turn
the ball over, granted like we did twice and Cowboys
and we saw those pretty much led to led to
the loss. So that's the first he did the game
is limit your turnovers. Don't let the Yeah, don't let

(34:28):
the Bears do the only thing on defense that they
can can rely on it and that's generate turnovers. I mean,
they're one corner, Nishan Wright, not that great of a corner,
but what he does well is he gets interceptions. And
then we a familiar face, Chaunton Gardner Johnson. We know
that he has a reputation with us to be a ballock.

(34:50):
So don't let them wreck the game with with takeaways
like that. Just take care of the ball. I'd say,
that's the that's the first thing. They're not good in
the red zone, so we are. We're really good. If
there's one positive of Kevin put two, it's he's for
some reason that creativity and and play calling is really

(35:11):
good in the red zone. I don't know what it is,
but it's like he flips a switch and it's like, oh,
I can do this, and you know, so we're really
good in the red zone. Keep that up. Keep that up.
I'd say. Also, actually, also just lean on the passing
game like you did against the Cowboys. It's the run
game is not working. Use it as a compliment obviously,

(35:33):
you know, and give Bigsby a few more carries. But
lean through the passing game. This this defense can be had.
They do like a good combination of different like coverages,
like cover two Cover three is what they play most
of the time they play, you know, they play that
like about twenty six percent of the time each, So
cover two and cover three make up about half of
the coverages. Cover one is about twenty one percent. So

(35:57):
it's it's almost like an equal approach of like single
high and shell coverage. Uh, so you're gonna see that.
You know, sixty they play mostly zone. Out of that
sixty seven percent zone and nine percent man. But again,
these these can the covers can be had. They don't
have the best personnel, so you're can attack them. You

(36:18):
can definitely attract them that that defense. So go with
you go through the air. And then I think we
retouched on it. Just stop with the the self inflicted
mistakes and stop with the ponies.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
And and now that's going to be tougher, as you said,
how the defense can be had the greatest personnel. Now
with us on the back end, do the injuries and
how we like how Fangil likes to play that cover
six a quarter quarter half.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Especially in the secondary.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Now we're we're playing with a handicap because it's because
who was out? So now he's going to have sitting
now the nextpt to play full time? Yeah, and what
and what's the status gonna read?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
He's gonna play. He's gonna play. Yeah. And and they said
that Dori Jackson has cleared he cleared concussion protocol, so
he's not in protocol at all, So he's good to
go to Thank God. Who would thought I would have said,
thank God, Dorri Jackson's gonna play, But I mean, he
hasn't been terrible, and I think I've also just I
want him in there. A big part, uh, A big

(37:24):
part of it is due to the fact that I
want Cooper in the nickel in the slot. So you know,
with with the Dory there, I think he can be okay,
and we'll keep Cooper in the slot and nickel backages.
So yeah, that's anything you I don't know if you
had anything else in mind when it comes to Eagles offense.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Not just just execute.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I mean, listen, the Steelers offense put up twenty eight
up twenty eight on him.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
And that misses some times.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
So and they could be and they could be had
in both on the ground and the air. Just gotta
be efficient a fairly enough. They take care of the
football well, no self afflicted wounds, and take advantage opportunities
when they present themselves.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yep. Yeah, So now that if you flip it, let's
go Eagles defense versus Bears offense DVOA. Eagles defense is
eighth in the league negative point six point Bears offense
is I believe it says. I don't know how much

(38:35):
I agree with it, like it says they're they're twenty
fifth in the league, but I think they're trending up.
So yeah, i'd say yeah, I think i'd say it's better.
I also might have you know what, I might have
flipped that the Bears defense is what's they're twenty fourth
in the league at some point the Bears offense is
what is fourteenth? Yeah, so I mixed up the two.

(38:59):
So sorry. So again for clarity, Bears offense fourteenth in
the league zero point five percent. Bears defense is seven
that's twenty fifth in the league. So their their defense
is bad. So Bears offense has been trending up. They're
figuring out on the Ben Johnson again, it's a big
reason why they are on this win streak. Run game

(39:21):
starts with the run game for them, that they build
their offense through the run game. Baron Mons right now,
they are primarily a zone by the way, Yeah, uh,
they run. Bears run primarily zone concepts. Outside zone thirty
seven percent of the time, inside zone fourteen percent of

(39:42):
the time, So that's over half of the run pays
are some type of zone concept and they are. Yeah,
they have added Montol like you said, Janders Swift and
Kyle Guy and Kamaung Guy. We have some clips on
because for those Eagles fans who are unaware of we're
not familiar with him, he is. He's playing really really

(40:03):
well late. As a league personnel wise, they major in
eleven personnel. Some will twelve personnel because they have co
Comman and Colston Lovelin, but it's mainly eleven personnel. They've
got a Dune Day, They've got DJ Moore, and they've
got the rookie Luther Burdon, who has you know, who
has contributed more and more as the season goes on
has gone on. There's are formations. They run a good

(40:26):
amount of pretty much just two by two and three
by one, so they mix it up. But they are,
like I said, their passing game is play action. So uh,
they're third in the league at play action rate. Thirty
two point nine percent of the of the dropbacks are
from play action. That's that's really good. And their EPA
that they draw for that is plus zero point two two,
which is tenth best in the league. So that's where

(40:48):
there's yeah, six touchdowns on one interception. With play action.
They run mainly on the first and second down, which
is expected, but that's their bread and butter. That's a
bread and butter. So what are the keys to the game.
I would say for this ego defense, First, like I said,
stop the run. Their zone team, you might want to

(41:09):
start to incorporate. You might want to incorporate some five
man surfaces by the outside zone. So you might see
a good amount of that. So the edges are going
to be very very important. Talking about Nolan Smith and
Jalen Phillips very important seending that edge this game, UH
to defend play action linebacker is going to be very key.
So I mean, I don't know what they're gonna want

(41:31):
to do with in terms of the because Nikobe Dean
is playing lights out, But if you're talking about who's
better in coverage, I think we all know Johan Campbell
is better in coverage as a line than Dean. So
I'm interested to see what fan is going to do there.
But yeah, those linebackers are going to be very key
off of play action to not get really bit and

(41:53):
say disciplined and really really know what they're looking at.
Another key, I'd say when it comes to Kayleb Williams,
the one thing, the one standout thing about his game
this season that is h improved drastically since last season
is his sack avoidance. I talked about it last week.

(42:15):
He leads the league in sack avoidance. It's so, what
does that mean for the Egos defense. They've got to finish.
They've got to find a way to finish their pass rush.
And I know that was an issue before, you know,
pre Jalen Phillips trade. They've got they've got to get killed. Bill,
so lean integrity, finish your tackles, wrap up like finish

(42:40):
and get those sacks. Don't let him avoid that pressure
because if he does, he's going to be able to create.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
So yeah, and his arm, his arm has enough talent
to get the ball to his playmakers. They started to
incorporate DJ more a little bit more that he was
having the game plan last week. Yeah, so I secondary
play sound especially like you said, playing an answer. Now,
if you say about play action, it just really dig
with your linebackers right behind.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
That is your safety play. Yeah, so listen, it's it
like I need you.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
I know you want to be heat seeking missile man,
but I need you to play within the concept confines
of the structure of the defense don't go off script,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
So I would be surprised if Ben Johnson doesn't draw
up several plays to test Sidney Brown. So yeah, not
like when it comes to the run game, I think
Sidney Brown is going to be He's going to help
in that run support. So we all know he is

(43:43):
a heat taking missile. So I'm not I'm not concerned
about the run game. But yeah, it's that play action
and what is their line?

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Like their offensive line success as a whole pass back,
run block versus our defense.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
They're more of a run blocking unit. And they Uh,
what's what's his name? What is I haven't, I couldn't.
I'll look it up, but I hadn't rid of. Uh,
where's his name? What's his name? Again?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Right now? Right is Beson? So they got done all
right at right tackle, Jon Jackson at right guard, Drew
Domon at center, the former Falcon Joe Tunia left guard,
and then the Theo bened left tackle. So the solid line.
They had their their struggles, but in terms of run blocking,

(44:34):
they've been they've increasingly got better and are a huge
reason why that run game, that rushed rushing attack for
the Bears has has been pretty good as the season
has gone on. So yeah, there they their offensive line
isn't bad. It isn't what it was. Definitely isn't what
it was last year. That definitely is not what it

(44:55):
was last year. Anything you wanted to add before we
get to the clips when in terms of Bears.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Often no, but if if I just started to get
a little choppy, so if I dropped out, I apologize.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
No problem, No problem, all right, So let's get to it.
So for those Egles fans who don't know, are unfamiliar
with the Bears, will keep running back. Kylemong Guy. I
have talked about him. He's one of my guys from
the draft. He's come on and while most people are
surprised even a bit from his emergence, I am not.
I am not surprised one bit. This guy can play

(45:30):
and uh, I think one.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Of the things.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
The seventh round, I had a third round grade on him.
So just saying I was there, you probably not find
a single person who is as high on kyleman Guy
as I was. So yeah, very familiar with this game.
One thing that you can we talked about the Bears
in their zone running attack, right their primarily zone run.

(45:56):
Kylemanung guy is so good at zones running round. So
there's just one run run here we've got. It's a draw,
but it's gonna be with the zone blocking with that
number sixty five is not the best fullback as the
lead blocker, So keep an eye on the linebacker. So
that's Patrick Queen and Malie Harrison. Uh I, I want

(46:20):
you to see here. Look how far Kamon Nunguy presses
that line of scrimmage and says vertical and then boom out.
It's so so disciplined and it's very very very very
good path, very good posting. That path is stay vertical, press, press, press.

(46:43):
Look at the look at him draw the linebackers in
and then that that cut to the outside, the horizontal
burst that he has and that quickness he can make
cuts guys. So his ability to get like he's almost
lost in that pile right there, but he presses into
the very last second then boom he's out and he's

(47:05):
he just goes for nine yards. But we talk about
zone blocking and just he's able to press. You could
see on other reps from you know, from the season
when he runs inside zone it's similar to what you
see here. It is just press press, press, press, press
boom out right. So again Tomanong guy press the line
of scrimmage out and he goes for nine yards. So

(47:31):
that's that. Now. The other thing is outside zone. I
love it him running outside zone is it's it's a
thing of beauty. It's one of those things where people think,
you run outside zone you have to be like a
fast running back. No, you don't have to be a
fast running back. You have to know efficient footwork and

(47:52):
where division of when to make your cut and where.
So when he runs outside zone, it's so good. Look
at the spacing and the efficient footwork like press press. Now,
look at it as he's making this. Look at his shoulders.
They're almost parallel to the line of scrimmage. But as
he's getting making this cutback. Look at his hips as

(48:14):
they are turning almost towards the side of they're pointed
almost to the opposite sideline. That hip flexibility is It's
something that when I want people, when you're watching running backs,
look at their hip flexibility and how they're able to
turn and open up their hips. That helps so much
in terms of change the direction and being smooth. So

(48:35):
when he's cutting this back. Look at that change of
direction and then him also that spatial awareness, right, he's
hugging his blockers, hugging his blockers. And then as I
think this is Pierre, Yeah, I think it's James Pierre.
I believe of the uh the the Steelers as he's safety, Yeah, yeah,

(48:56):
the safety. As he's trying to get this tackle in
on the Nungui. Look at Mononguy take away that outside hip.
He's gonna bend and then boom, like he avoids that tackle.
So that hip flexibility, that the be able to turn
and take that target area away from defenders helps so
much when it comes to tackle breaking ability. So this

(49:18):
guy can bely kamon Ung Guy is so good. He's
not explosive vertically, he doesn't have that speed, but man,
like there's another star running back in the league, goes
to the name of Kyrin Williams, who's not not fast
or at all, but he has Their styles are not
that far off where Kamanung Guy has that agility, that vision,

(49:43):
the ability in zone blocking zone runs to really see stuff.
You know, he's physical, he's powerful, so like, even though
he also doesn't have that speed, he's got so much
other stuff, you know, high end trades about his game
that really is gonna make him a good running back.
So anything you wanted dead, No, no, I mean Rutgers,

(50:06):
Rutgers Pride Man, Rutgers running back. Rutgers doesn't produce a
lot of NFL talent, but the one position they do
is running back. So it's it's it's nice to see,
very nice to see. So Eagles have to really really
really watch out for common un Gotta make sure he
you know they Eagles are.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Last time I took there were still seven point favorites.
I mean, I want the Eagles to win.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
I think throughout the sixty the football game the better teams.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
But also at the same time.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
You can't spat Schicago fourteen to seventeen point league, yeah,
which is not out of running possibility.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yep, you can't. You can't, all right, So grew up there.
Next segment, Uh, Thanksgiving is coming up when you know
when this episode comes out a.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Little over twenty four hours away when it.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Drops, Yes, over twenty four hours away, and I wanted
to do this segment real quick, and it's what we're
thankful for in this from the NFL season.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
So far.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
So I have a couple. Do you want me to storry?
You want to start?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I'm trying to get an idea where we're going. So
have you start?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Okay? So, like I said to you before, it could
be anything, anything you want to be thankful for. But
the first thing I'm gonna say I'm thankful for is parody.
I love I was that going to be one of yours. Yeah, yeah,
I am so thankful that the NFL has parody. You

(51:36):
look at the a f C. The two favorites going
into the season and NFC were Chiefs and Bills and Ravens.
Ravens are now coming. They came back and are leading
the division. But like, they don't look great. Steelers don't
look that's not saying anything, but look at the Bills.
They're not leading their division the paper. Look at the Chiefs,

(51:59):
they're not. They're they're I don't know if they're mathematically
eliminated from division race. I don't think they are, but
they're essentially they're they're in a hole in terms of
being able to win the division. It's pretty much the
Broncos to lose. So they're not leading the division. They
were close, they were an overtime game away from miss
from having their playoff chances spiral downward. So like, we

(52:23):
talk about the Colts a lot, and no one saw
that coming. No one saw that coming. So you know, Patriots, Broncos, Broncos,
Colts like the parody and and seeing the AFC be like, hey,
we've got some new teams here coming on, and I
am enjoying. I am thoroughly enjoying it. You know, I don't,

(52:44):
unlike a certain someone else Neglestock, like I don't have
an agenda. Like I I appreciate it. I love like
the Bills and Cheese in terms of there being great
and I love watching Patrick Mahomes, I love watching Josh Allen.
But I also love watching the parody that we see,
you know, in the NFL, and when it comes out
like it is this season, it's it's fun. It's a

(53:06):
lot of fun. It's all particular one. We love seeing
new teams come up. But uh, yeah, I love that.
I don't know if you want you wanted to chime.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
In, No, I was.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I was not a parody because it keeps it exciting
and that it's never dull. But did not think the
Giants were forty eight minutes or let's say probably five
minutes O from beating the Lions, and it's you can
never get a beat on the team where you don't
know what team is going to show we do we?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
You know?

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I find it fascinating that because of the parody, that
we may get the Bills and the Chiefs missing the playoffs. Right,
So yeah, I mean, and then you get the turmoil.
Not saily a paternal but look at the AFC. Look
at the NFC West right now, right, you got three
teams in the NFC North right now, three teams that
are theoretically battling for those divisions, right and then by

(53:54):
Hooker Crook, the NFC South then turned into a race.
The Falcons is not out of it, you know, the
leader and that that visions only six and five. You know,
I think the Falcons down is five and six or
five and seven.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I can look it up.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Either. Yeah, I think, And actually I think they're four
and seven.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
So Bucks right now are in for six and five,
Panthers are six and six are four and seven.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
So I mean that's still not out of it. You know,
nobody like nobody's running away with it.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
I mean, I think the Eagles may have the biggest
division lead, the largest division lead in the NFC.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Mm hm, you know what I mean, out of all
the divisions because probably yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Got Jaden Daniels, hurt Giants. You know, they got moved
off from a coach, and Dallas has got off a
rough start. So one of mine, I would say, I'm
thankful I would say this, and this is going to
sound crazy, but this just goes back to what we

(54:57):
have said about this player even before we would never drafted.
I'm thankful George Pikets has got the spotlight.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
To really show how good this dude is. Yeah, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I'm thankful that the satur frase as a Cowboys fan
as as an Eagles fans say to say that a
boy a cowboy, but it just is what I've liked.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I've loved him since he was at Georgia.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yeah he was, he was a steel Yeah, We've been
talking about his talent since he was a Steeler, so
like not a lot of people saw, but he had
a horrible QB play and also part of him like
he couldn't get his head on straight.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
But with him being in in.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Contract year and having a quarterback like that. It's showing like, man,
I'll ask you this, who's the better receiver Pikes? I
think so too.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I mean I don't think.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
I don't think the burst and the speed and everything
else is as CD has as that much of a lead.
I definitely think pickings hands are better than CDs. Yeah,
I would say the other thing I'm thankful for. I'm
thankful for redemption stories as quarterbacks, especially number one picks

(56:20):
who people thought they were going to be bussed. I'm
talking about cal Wins, but more importantly I am talking
about Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Well, he's he's been up and down. He's been up and.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Down, but this time last year I thought, yeah, And honestly,
they should have won the game yesterday if they knew
what they was doing.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
They had three picks in the first half.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
They couldn't capitalize on them, and they couldn't capitalize.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
So like, that's another team that whereas we talked about
the parody, you don't know what you're going to get
from me the week because they were in that game.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
But as far as Bryce Young being labeled as a
bust or being labeled.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
As Bryce Young was on the same level, if not
thought of even worse than what Anthony Richardson was at
this time last year.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah before he Yeah, so second chances, man.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Second chances, second chances. Well, my my other one that
I'll say I think I'm thankful for it has to
do kind of with you know, one of those quarterbacks,
those second chance quarterbacks, Sam Darnold. Uh But you know,
not not completely or not solely about him, but I'm
thankful for the Seahawks bringing back the under under center

(57:34):
passing game. And I'm not talking about under center play action,
just under center passing game, like pure passing concepts from
under center. And I really do think they're going to
start that trend and we're gonna see maybe not this year,
but the next few years go you know progress, you know,

(57:54):
this year following, I do think we're gonna see that
trend come back of more teams basing their passing offense
from directly under center. And it feels like Pete, I know,
we're like rough like kind of like the same age ish,
but like, how long has it been since we've seen

(58:14):
offenses that do pure drop back passing game from from
from under center? I mean like it's been like twenty years.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
I wouldn't say that. I would say Brady was always
a proponent of it.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Yeah, yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
But but as far as league wide to where you.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
See league why, it feels like it was the two thousands.
That's when we last really saw it. And then I
think I could be wrong and some like.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
He's still close to two thousands, but that's where it was,
like it was almost a staple one everyone's playbook. Yeah,
as offensive, coordinated gun.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
And then I forget what start of the trend of soccer,
but then everyone even.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
When Peyton went to Denver, they should do it a
little bit, but it wasn't as prevalent, you know.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
So I I really like that. Again, we talked about
this before, but the NFL is both ever evolving but
also cyclical come back around.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
It's loose yep, it is.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
It comes back around every everything. So all right, those
are things worth we're thankful for. So let's end it
now with no huddle. I don't know if you had
anything I had.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Uh, when are the Patriots gonna lose the game? Man?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Let's see the schedule up New England Patriots schedule. Let's see.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
So I think the Rams can run the table, and
I think they can run the table.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
They play the Giants, when they play the Bills the
summer fourteen, that's a big one right in New England,
that is correct. They play the Ravens and then they
played the Jets at the Dolphins. So they've got three
out of the three of their next five games are one.

(01:00:17):
They'll probably have it be heavily, be favored heavily. It's
the two matchups against the Bills and the Ravens where
you know, yeah, but they they could they could ruin
the table.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
They're looking at number one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
How crazy is that?

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Okay, because I know what the it was a topic
I think last week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
And then Commander is still the Sunday night game?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
That is that still cants still be flexed or too late?

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I think it's too late.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Yeah, probably, well whatever, I know, Kennon caught a lot
of flack last week when when we talked about this,
and that was the whole story. But do you do
you think they're legit or are they fools gold? And
what a fool's gold?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
You're talking about the Patriots? The Patriots, Yeah, they're legit,
and they get the number one seed, the legiti they
get the number one seed.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I think the AFC kind of fed up a little
bit the fact that the Ravens are struggling.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
They may find the FORMU of you though it's not
what it was last year, but the team.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
A couple a couple of weeks ago, we had said
that this dude should be m v P, and I
still think he has a quality MVP case.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
But now Matt Staffords has taking that. He's grabbed that
by the Horns.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Davis Mills may have saved the Texas seasons and it's
crazy to even say that. It's crazy to even say that.
But now you play the Colts, and I think the
Texans are five hundred. I think they're five and five.
I'm not mistaken. Now you win this game, then you're
only one back in the division, and the Coats still
have to play the Bills, and I think they have

(01:02:01):
to do that in Orchard part.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Cole have a brutal schedule. They have a brutal schedule
coming up. So yeah, but the Tuxans are they're just
one game back of the Jaguars, but they've won yeah,
three straight, I mean, and then Stroud's coming back if
he can.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Well, who knows six and five? Right, now yeah, six
and five. So the one game back of the Jaguars
with seven four, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
If they did. They play each other.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Still, I think they play in Jacksonville.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
But my when we first started this, I said the
Eagles Texans in the Super Bowl. I mean, I think
the AFC this playoff here is it's not gonna be
one of the favorites that make it, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
I so like, yeah, we talked about you know that, like,
what is the definition of fools gold? I don't I
think we do hear fools gold. I think it's it's
very it did be very harsh, so like so yeah,
so that's why definitely a fools gold. Like I think
fools go to saying like a team that is you know,

(01:03:09):
a team really isn't good. That's what I think you're
saying when when someone says fools gold. Do I think
the Patriots are legitimate? Super Bowl? Like? Do I do
they can win the Super Bowl? I don't know. I'm
gonna lean no, but I mean I wouldn't be surprised,
like I could absolutely be wrong. I'm going to lean no.

(01:03:33):
But to me, that still doesn't make them fools gold.
I still think they are a pretty good team. Like
you know, they're good. I think they're a good team.
Maybe not a great team, but they're a good team.
But like you said, you put on something really really interesting.
If they win the first seed number on all over seed,
they get that buye. They are one win away from

(01:03:55):
playing in the conference championship game. Yep, like you're seeing
crazier things.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
So, I mean they have a game lead on the
conference right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Yeah, so it's gonna be it's gonna be a very interesting, good,
good good thing. Bringing that up, no huddle, I'm going
to I was gonna break. This is one of the
things I want to bring I wanted to bring up
last week. I'll bring up this week. I'll save one
of the other things for next week. But how bad

(01:04:25):
does it look for the Falcons knowing that they traded
their first overall pick for twenty twenty six to the Rams,
and now that pick is going to be, like I
think projected now it's going to be eighth overall. Yeah,
they don't have their first round pick and they are

(01:04:47):
they're they're spiraling. So eighth overall pick right now, projected
eighth overall pick is not going to be in your
pocket and it's going to the Rams, who I'd say,
are right, don't need it? The best team in the
league right now, I'd say, how crazy is that? Like, I,
I don't remember what your take was, but when they

(01:05:09):
traded that pick, I think what was it? Was it
for Green? I forget? Is that the one they traded
for the pass rusher? Yeah? When they traded that pick,
I was just like, what are you doing? So? Like
it's it was a lot, it was. It was a

(01:05:33):
lot to give up for. I'm looking up Druck trade.
I'm looking up the It wasn't Green, it was Peers. Sorry,
Green is the one that went to the Ravens the
trade for James Pearce. So man, like, I I know
they wanted to really boost, you know, because they were

(01:05:54):
desperate to boost the pass rush because that's that's been
the weakness and I and I get it, But to
tree that for James Pierce, Yeah, your size, like and
now just look at it, hm, a top ten pick,
you don't have that? Nope, that that is such a

(01:06:14):
bad look. And I wouldn't they got Yeah, I wouldn't
be surprised that the GM and head coach can after
this season.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
I mean, I think Morris is the second time around
as a head coach, and I just think this is like,
all right, I'm definitely just I'm definitely just the coordinator,
you know what I mean, I could be I could
be a good coordinator head coaching just because.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Of the responsibilities.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Is that in the third and how to look at
because really for them, it's it's the offense. But I mean,
now they got a couple of injuries and we're not
cop They got drink London out, pen Is out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
So yeah, I don't think it's I do think it's
an offense offensive they call and Marie Moore is just
not good at managing the game, like his game time
decisions is not It's not that it's not there. So
I just yeah, look, it's such it's such a bad
look for them, and you've got a feel for the
Falcons fans, man, it's oh that sucks to have a

(01:07:05):
season like this and not in your head you're like, well,
at least we get a first round pick. No, no,
we don't. We don't have that round pick. That's so demoralizing,
so demoralizing. So sorry Falcons fans, sorry hanging there. At
least you got bees On. If there's anything that's to
be thank you man, you've got bees On and Drake London,

(01:07:26):
so you've got to really top notch uh. Let's skip
position players. So there is still kind of hope anything
else that you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
I know we said be thankfu for the NFL, but no,
I don't have anything else to be thankful for. Your
family may not be the position that you want to
be in.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Be thankful for the things that you have and the
things that who my my Lord is say Christ Is
put his faith in and allowed us to stay, and
just to be thankful for we're at and be grateful.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Yes, you know in times like this and I'm sure
we all go through like our struggles and we go
through life. But you know, as cliche as it sounds
like this, this time comes around with Thanksgiving and you know,
thankful for the food obviously and dinner and everything like that,
but it is a good reminder to take what you

(01:08:18):
have in life and and take a moment and just
be like we're blessed, you know, counter blessings and be
like there are a lot of things in our lives
we can we can truly be happy about and and
things before and I'm I'm blessed with that. I you know,
as as difficult as it may have it at times,

(01:08:39):
and same thing with all of us. You know, it's
good to just look at it and take a step
back and be thankful for what what we do have
in our lives and our family and you know, and yeah,
I'm I'm thankful for you Broke doing this show. It's
it's what we do every week and I have a
lot of fun growing it and thankful to be able

(01:09:01):
to do a show that we can dive into the weeds,
you know, and give content like this. So you're thankful
for all the viewers. If you're tuning in you listen
and watch us on a regular basis, we are thankful
for you as well. We appreciate the support that you
give us and hopefully we'll continue to give you great,

(01:09:22):
great content moving forward. Thankful to our sponsor to Lonzy
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(01:09:43):
for mister o GP Pete Evans for the rest of
us at a two D radio, have a blessed and
wonderful Thanksgiving. And let's hope the Birds bounce back on
Black Friday in their new in their blackout uniforms, which
are the best egos uniforms there are out there, not
the Kelly Greens. I'm so sick of the Kelly Greens after.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
That loss, and I hope they with the matt Helm,
the matt Helme.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
I'm done with the Kelly Greens. Put in the black
the blackout uniforms.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Happy Dancegiving guys, and we will see you next week. Peace,
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