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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. There's a brand new edition of
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Speaker 2 (01:10):
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for today is the last two losses for the Flyers
show they are still some question marks for this team
to take the next step in the rebuild. Agree or disagree? Obviously,
the Flyers took an absolutely trocious loss to the Penguins, however, though,
and they also took a two to nothing shut out
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to the Tampa Bay Lightnings that they had to eat. However, though,
they did also manage to rattle off a couple of
victories in between those losses. They rattled off another win
over the Florida Panthers. They also did get a big
victory over the Islanders, so and they had a big
victory against the Devils as well. So the question then is,
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with these two particular losses, especially the one against the Penguins,
are there still question marks here for this franchise. Greer disagree, Brian,
how do you feel about it?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I would agree. I definitely think there's definitely some holes.
We've been saying it the last I feel like a
couple of weeks especially, we've been saying it over the
last few months that this team is nowhere near complete.
They are still looking to upgrade in certain positions. For sure,
centers obviously the Glaring look right now. In my opinion,
you know you're bringing Trevor Siegers and you can play
him in a couple of different versatile, versatile spots. But
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the Flyers, I feel like see him more as a
winger than a center right now, and you still have
to address that need. You also have to address the
goaltending need. I think theodar has been really good, but
I definitely think you Erison's left a lot to be desired.
His last couple of starts haven't been terrible, especially the
one who did Who did he just play? I want
to say it was a The Islanders he was in
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the net for, but he didn't look terrible. I don't
even remember, honestly, remember who was in that last night.
My last night was just a big old blur to me.
But regardless. You know, you definitely need to want to
upgrade a goalie, whether you think it's going to be
call Us Off or Bearniston or somebody from outside the organization.
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You definitely have some holes. And rumor has it they
want to try and bring in another top four defenseman,
which I don't necessarily disagree with. I would always take
an upgrade, but from what I've been hearing via Twitter,
I think it was Charlie O'Connell who put this out.
I'll double check the tweet and just to be sure,
but Risso is going to start skating and practice tomorrow,
so that's a good science. So you're going to get
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a big body back. But yeah, for me, you definitely
have some holes here. Power plays starting to show a
little inconsistency. Penalty kill has been pretty great up until
the game last night. The Penguins just made the penalty
kill look absolutely silly. But that's something that's I'm not
too worried about, but you know, I definitely want to
You definitely have some holes here. Now that Forcers out
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for the next two to three months with his upper
body injury, you know you're going to have a hole there.
We're really going to find out if we're banking is
you know, what everybody wants them to be, because you know,
I want him to be a top six forward. Hopefully
he can start showing that he can be, because to me,
there's nobody else right now that takes that role. But yeah, absolutely,
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I think there's there's holes that need to be filled,
and there's still some question marks that that need to
be answered. But I mean, this team has overachieved a
little bit this year. I think they've played really well overall,
you know, and we'll get a little bit more into
it as we go on here, but you know, I
think the one thing that this team is missing is
setting the tone every night, and I think in the
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Devil's Game they did a really good job of that.
But we need to see that a little bit more
consistent consistently for me to really believe that this team,
built as it is now, is ready to be a
playoff team. But until they shoot me otherwise right now,
you know, I said that in the off season. I
said at the beginning of the year, this is still
a bubble team. This is still a team that can
go either way. When you play a rival and you
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fall flat in your face like you did against the Penguins.
You have to figure out a way to you have
to find a way to step up. And I realized,
like the last game that they played against the Penguins
was really good. It was a much better showing than
this one, and they were due for a stinker, but
this was to me their worst performance of the year.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, for me, I'm gonna say that agree. But I
also feel like that was kind of I feel like
that was going to happen. I feel like it was
expected that there was still going to be some holes
here and there on the Flyers team because it's not complete,
and that was going into the year, we knew that
that was going to be a thing. I definitely also
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think too that even if you didn't have holes necessarily,
you were going to run into nights where you're going
to play where things are just not going to go
your way and you're going to play like crap. And
I think the previous game against Pittsburgh, it clearly was
that nothing was going their way. They got opportunities on Jari,
but nothing was getting by him except one goal. And honestly,
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and Vlador was a net last night. And honestly, Vladar
I don't necessarily think it was all his fault. I
just think that at the end of the day, it
was a very just it was a bad night at
the office, and unfortunately the whole team suffered from it
at the end of the day. And you know, the
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only thing you can do is try to forget this
loss in the sense of like, Okay, don't let that,
you know, don't let that be the moment that everything
comes to a screeching halt. Which so far, they've responded
very well to taking tough losses, because they've taken tough
losses and rebounded. I mean, hell, earlier on in the year,
they took a really nasty loss to Winnipeg and then
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they responded by rattling off three straight victories. So you know,
this is a team that's shown resilience. So I'm not
as worried about it as I would be like say
two years ago, three years ago, where it's like, Okay,
we just took a nasty loss, We're going to go
on a bad streak here, And you know, I think
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right now, I think they'll be fine. I just think
that this was a bad night. Also on top of it, too,
I think Pittsburgh needed to. I think for them, they
needed to go into Philly and get a win, not
necessarily for standings, but for pride of anything, because you know,
they took they took that loss the last time where
they lost three times in the same game. So and
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to be fair, Pittsburgh played like crap in that game.
So they had to respond and they had to show like,
You're not just going to walk all over us this year,
you know. So I think they had that going into
this game. So they were up to say the least
for that. And you know, I think that that ultimately
proved that, Yeah, Pittsburgh was more ready for this game
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than the Flyers were in that situation.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And don't forget the ending of the last game where
Trevor Jegus decided to act a fool and do some
bush league stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But you know, you had to.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Fact that there was going to be some kind of
a response from Pittsburgh after that. I mean, you win
U three to two. I believe in the shootout, was
it what's that, Benny? You have to believe that Pittsburgh
was coming back. And like I said, just last night
alone was it was just a bad night for the
penalty kill. They let up three power play goals. You're
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giving up a couple of goals to Sidney Crosby. What's up, Robby?
We miss you brother, and some nights it's just going
to be that way. You know, you're you're going to
give up three power play goals. You know, the penalty
kill is going to be the reason why you win
or lose a game. You know, five on five they were,
they were pretty I would say they were. They were
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about average on the five on five. But when you're
getting smoked on the penalty kill, it's really a momentum
killer and it's tough to really kind of climb back
into the game, especially when you're taking dumb penalties. Uh,
That to me is one of the biggest issues with
this Flyers team is not always necessarily how they start,
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because you know, sometimes they finish way better than they start.
They keep taking too many dumb penalties. You know, it
was bound to happen that the penalty as good as
the penalty kill has been for this team most season long,
that it's gonna come back and bite them, especially a
Pittsburgh team that seems, you know, rejuvenated, because when Pittsburgh
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was expected I think by all of us to be
a bottom tier team. Jay, what's up, my dude. It's
this was a tougher all to swallow than the Tampa
Bay game. They just got flat on outplayed against Tampa
and that was kind of that was that was tough
to swallow. But this, I think this one's tougher because
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it was stupid penalties. It was penalties within their control
that led to some of these goals. And you know
this rejuvenated Penguins team that under a new head coach,
under or City Crosby who's playing like he's twenty five
years old again, Brandon Russ playing really well, Maulk and
playing well, Le Tang looking like a younger version of
himself right now. It's a tough one. It's a tougher
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one to swallow, especially after how you played against Pittsburgh,
uh in the first meeting. So for me, yeah, it's
it's just it's tough. It's a tough loss, and you
gotta stay five on five against a team like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, this was just this is probably the worst performance
they've had all year. I think I think that that
is no argument. But that's the thing, Like, Okay, so
you had your you had your low point. Now you
can rebound from that. I mean, at some point the
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bottom was gonna fall out and you were gonna take
a really nasty loss. It's still early in the season
taking taking nasty loss to a team that you know
it he's gonna want to play you hard, and played
and played very poorly the last time they faced you,
so they had a lot to prove. So again I'm
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not worried. I think that that was bad performance, bad night.
You shrug it off and you move forward, and that's
what they have to do here at the end of
the day. And Benny's saying inconsistency is what you will
get with a young team and a new coach, then
you can see getting you can get inconsistency. You are right.
And I think it's also not just in I don't
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think it was just that too. I think it was
just that at some point you were gonna you were
gonna have one of those games. You were gonna have
one of those games where nothing's clicking, nothing's going right.
Everything that Pittsburgh touched was going into the back of
the net. Lador was not a world beater like he
had been in previous games. He was gonna have an
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off night at some point. Everyone does, you know, and
not just how it is that it's a tough loss
that take, especially to a team that you despise. But
at the same time, what are you gonna do. The
only thing you can do is just say, you know what,
take a deep breath, move forward, rebound with your next game.
And they've done it before, they'll do it again. They
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rebounded just fine when they took that two to zero
loss to Tampa, so I think they'll rebound again. Just
you know, they gotta, they gotta, they gotta stay consistent,
like Benny is saying, they just gotta stay consistent, and
they can get that going, then they'll be all right.
And you know, that's all that there is to it.
Rough loss, But like I said, this team has been resilient.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So yeah, And to the end of s jm's comment
and what Rob is saying, you know, it's hard to
not see that this team is improved. This team is
much more in a lot of ways, much much better
than they were last year. They're watching the show from
a hot tub that my physical therapist during nice, Nice
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your physical therapist, did you go to uh specialized physical
therapy by chance. You know, you gotta gotta show them
some love. Man. They're right around the corner from us.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
All the same though. Hey man, you know, good luck
enjoyed that. Hopefully it is healing you.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, I got a giant not in my shoulder right
now and it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
But well, then you need to go specialize.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I just need a massage. I need to need to
get a nod out of my Go to specialized cigarette.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
What the fuck are you doing, Brian, Go to.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Spin Go to special doctor Paul. Yes, jesus, see if
one of his nurses might give me a little rubdown.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Hey listen, hey, no, but you the one thing, the
one thing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
That I uh, you know, it's blatantly obvious. As the
penalty kills improved, the power play, I think it has
definitely improved. Yeah, I mean, you couldn't be any worse
than they were last year. For sure, There's still some
there's still some holes that need to be addressed. For sure.
This seems as far from a Cup contender. Uh, Like
I said, borderline playoff contender. Been saying it for weeks,
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been saying it for months. But but yeah, to Benny's point, Yeah, inconsistency.
It's gonna come with a young team. It's gonna come
with a couple of guys who are it's still relatively
new to the organization. You know that are getting fresh
starts in the Vorak and Ziegres and I I gotta,
I gotta. I got a bone to pick with the Vorak.
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I was ready to trade him immediately after the other night.
You know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I know I know where you're going. Please feel free
to elaborate for those who may not have have seen.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
The war, A clean breakaway. Nobody near him decide to
drop it back Torier. Yeah, okay, maybe you throw you
throw Bobrowski off, but they could turry. It decides he
wants to pass the puck to do Worak. Who's in
the corner. We didn't have an open shot in the salot.
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What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It literally, it literally just drives home the stereotype that
the flyers don't know when to shoot the puck.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
It drives home the fact that Tocket's teams don't know
how to know when to shoot. This isn't just the flyers,
this is pocket system. And I listen, I love Coots.
I love the Warak, I love what they bring to
this team, but you know, one of you guys have
to shoot that puck. Luckily they want up beating the
Panthers in that game, but Jesus Christ, somebody's got to shoot.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That Somebody, anybody, please just shoot the fuck that brutal.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I was watching the game and I was in shock.
I don't think I moved for about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You literally could not handle. I mean I literally remember
seeing that and them.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
It broke my brain.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It literally I looked at that and I was just
thinking to myself, you know what, this is the exact issue.
This is gonna be the highlight of everybody's saying. See
the Flyers don't know how to shoot the puck. They
always pass. It's like, yep, that's gonna give them fuel.
That's definitely gonna give them fuel.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That irks my soul. It broke me for fifteen minutes.
What's up, swoopee. But yeah, I mean, like I said,
they have to shoot more too. Obviously, that's that's that's
another glaring hole. But that also comes from having guys
who don't necessarily, uh they're not shoot first caliber players.
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I think Mitch CoV Is still Ziegers is closer to
a shoot first caliber player. But just still think that
Zieger is still a playmaker. He's going to pass first
before he shoots. But I they gotta shoot more. Oh don't, don't, don't,
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come on, come on, Benny, come on man. That Oh
averaging five shots again, that's this is this is where
we're at. Oh god, let's hope not my shots a
period' give him at least fifteen.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I mean, I will say though I do think that
we have seen a little bit better on that. I mean,
for one thing, look at Zegres. For God's sake, this
guy's literally a scoring machine at this find out. See,
this is this is what I love to see. Sometimes
you do need to change the scenery. All you gotta
do is see a picture of Trevor's Segres like that
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is the definition of that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Look at how many points he has. He's he's on.
He's on his way to shatter what he's done in
the past. As far as career highs.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Absolutely he is thriving right now. But you know, again,
I will say that as for this particular game, it's
frustrating to see this kind of shit happen. But it's
gonna happen. There's nothing we can do about this. I know,
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the younger, more temperamental me would be throwing this laptop
that I am broadcasting from across the room right now.
But as I have gotten older, not wiser, but older,
I have realized that, you know what this is, uh,
you know what. This is the season, this is what's
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gonna happen. This shit's gonna happen. You know, the Flyers
aren't gonna be world beaters every night. And maybe it's
because I don't have as high expectations as I used to.
I used to have the expectations of the Flyers have
to make the playoffs. Now I'm just like, I just
want them to be strong and I want them to
actually grow. If they're competitive, then that's like okay. Even
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if they miss the playoffs, it's like all right, all right,
at least the young guys are thriving, and that's all
that really matters at the end of the day. Right now, Yeah,
Swoopie saying why in the world, well, thank Flyer are
only three good players away? Hearing Quinn Hughes is being
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said to be the missing guy. What he got out
of here?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
He's definitely a missing guy. He's gonna make any team
immediately better, especially on the defensive side. Tacket guy, you know,
flourishing his system, really became the player, the elite player
that he is, and the best of the three Hughes brothers,
there's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The other two are they on. They're both on New
Jersey right.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Luke and Jack are playing together. Jack unfortunately, he's out
right now. I don't know how much longer he's gonna
be out for. But he decided to cut his finger
wide open during a team dinner, so had surgery, got
stitched up.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Of all the ways to hurt yourself, Like, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I mean, Claude Jerub broke his finger in a golfing incident,
so he did happens.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He also slapped a cops asked and got arrested, so.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You know, yeah, but he did miss time for that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
He didn't, but it's still funny.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
He's just like stuff happens, you know what I mean,
Like it's life. But yeah, I mean I think they're
I think they're about three good quality players away from
being being a legit team. They definitely need. They definitely
are missing a legit superstar.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Benny. Stop stop ratting me, that is, stop ratting me out, Benny.
I trust you with this, and then you're gonna have
and just spill my daughter laundry right here live on
the air. Damn it. Benny can't tell you nothing anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Let him know, Benny, that's the absolute truth, damn And
that doesn't just go for Maddie. And I'm not gonna
use any examples, but I may be included in that.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
That's the last time I share a deep, dark secret
with you, Benny, the last time anyway. Wow uh swoop
saying you think Quinn is the best of them, Brian.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Oh, hands down, it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean, honestly, not.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Even closet very good. Luke is okay, Quinn is the
best of the three, and it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I did see, like I think it was, I forget.
I think it was like a graphic assault on Facebook
or what have you that saw like three, three or
four teams that are in the running for Quinn Hughes.
The Flyers are among them. Yes, I think obviously the
devils are in there, which doesn't shock me at all.
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Rangers was Buffalo one of them?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I might have been.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think Buffalo was one of them.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Buffalo has resources to be able to get a trade
like that done right.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And I think a West team was in there, was
it La.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I don't remember a West team because he wants to
be closer to Jack and Luke. So I think it's
all going to be Eastern Conference teams.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Okay, probably, I think that might be it, but I
could maybe there was five either way, though. The point
being is that the Flyers are are in the running
most likely, you know. And the thing is is that
Danny's going to listen. He's going to you know, take
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into consideration, you know, all of the all of the
offers and all the ideas here. There's a few trades
that I've heard. One would send Owen Tippet out. Another
one I think Sanheim was brought up. So I've heard
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a couple of names thrown around. It's interesting. I mean,
I'm wondering, like, out of the tube ride, which one
would you be more comfortable with letting go? Would it
be Sandheim or would it be tipp It because obviously
you're not sending both out in that deal, So which
one would you choose if you had to?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
If I had to, I can choose right now, it
would probably be Sandheim only because he can fill Sandheim's role.
And if you bring in another another defenseman without letting
another one go the other way, that could turn into
another log jam. But and that's one thing we don't
need is another defenceman in the logjam, help keeping Oliver
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Bonk from from being able to come up and taking
away more consistent ice time from a guy like Emil Andre.
So you know, for me, it's it's I would use
Tippet in another deal if I could, but I in
this specific deal, unless there's a young defenseman going that way,
it'll have to be Sandheim.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, yeah, I got you on that one. I mean,
honestly though, I'm not against I'm not against it. I mean,
I know Sanheim has been with the team for a
while and he has played very well for the Flyers
during that time. But you know, as as the old
saying goes can't make an homeald up breaking some eggs.
So you know, if you got to, you go ahead
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and you make the trade. If you feel like Quhen
Hughes is an upgrade from Sandheim.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Which he is, well yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So I mean, yeah, if you got to do it.
You gotta do it, you know again, you gotta do
what you gotta do, and an upgrades and upgrade.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
At the end of the day, if they are, if
they are really selling Quinn Hughes, they have to the
flyers have to, you know, right again, this is a
guy who has flourished undertocket system. He understands a little
bit more can help the defense who haven't been bad
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all season long, birds here and there, even in the
bad games, the defense has still been more than more
than not the best part of the game. But you
have if you even linked or even hearing that a
guy like quin Hughes is available and you have the
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resources to get it done, you have to you have
to try, have to try. And he's still young. I
think he's twenty seven or twenty eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's not the oldest.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He's not old by any stretch of the imagination. He's
still got plenty of gas left in the tank. So
that's yeah, it's not a concern of that. But I
think it's just, you know, one of those things of
if you're going to trade a player, I think people
want to see the results immediately right off the bat.
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So oh, Okay, he's yeah that he's not old enough done,
plenty of gas in that tank. So yeah, I mean
I personally I would consider and do that trade if
everything is going to fall into place on that, you know,
I mean, honestly, yeah, I'd do it. I mean also
if if they want to talk about picks to get
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thrown in there too, I mean, I'm not against it either.
I'm just like, okay, we can talk about picks too,
you know, because I mean, obviously, if the Flyers continue
to play as solidly as they have and they continue
to stay consistent, or if they get more consistent, and
if they continue to stay and hover where they're at,
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you know, or improve either way and they don't take
a massive fall, then they essentially could be a wildcard
team essentially. And what that would mean is, Okay, so
our first round pick is not necessarily going to be coveted,
so I'd be open to it.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah. Yeah, one first round this year, right, yeah, two
next year? Right, that can get it done, And then
you could probably move like a Tippet or somebody later
on and in another deal and still get another first
round pick, so you don't miss out on getting a
pick this year that that you could potentially need, although
outside of like Gavin McKenna, I hear there's a little
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bit of a drop off in this draft class, so.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Right, and plus also, the Flyers have plenty of young
studs that have still yet to show up in the
pipeline anyway, so it's i mean more tone just for
a perfect example, you know. And he's been absolutely just
lighting it the fuck up out there in college. So
you know, point being is that the Flyers have plenty
of young talent that has yet to come through the pipeline.
So at the end of the day, it's like, all right,
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all right, right this year, you don't have to necessarily
pick in the first round. You can as long as
you improved the team drastically, you know, And it sounds
like Quinn Hughes would be that guy to drastically improve
this team's blue line. Then go for it. At the
end of the day, you know, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And it's not even just the defensive side of puckey.
You know, you're you're going to improve the penalty kill,
you're improving the power play, You're you're improving five on
five play. Could you imagine, oh man, Quinn Hughes on
the top line with cam yorke Vin Steeler on the
second pairing with Drysdale, and then Bristow and Andre on
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the third pairing like that could be, that could be scary.
That's a pretty scary pairings there.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
That's a pretty solid defensive force right there. I mean, honestly,
even if you even if worst comes to worse and
Bristo gets himself hurt again, which unfortunately he has a
bad habit of doing, you could still put somebody else
in there and you should still be fine on that
third pair with Andre. So honestly, I think, yeah, we
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got a pretty solid defensive force. And like you said, Brian,
it's been one of the bigger highlights that the Flyers
have had. And I mean the penalty kill shows for it. Sure,
bad example for yesterday, but in previous games they've been
handling their business just fine. It's been the power play
that a lot of people have been having some issues with.
Although the power play, I feel like it's played better
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this year than it did le this year.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It can't be any worse than they were last year, right.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
But that's not saying much, is what I was about
to say. It's like that's not saying much. I mean,
the Flyers could just tick up by two percent on
their power play this year and that's enough to say, damn,
we did a lot better this year anyway. But the
point being is that if Quentin Hughes is the guy,
I say go for him. I'm not against that trade.
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I'm not against an upgrade. And I'm kinda and I'm
happy you said Sandheim, Brian, because I am not. I
was leaning more towards Sandheim. I don't want to trade
tipp It, honestly, I don't. And the reason why I
don't want to trade tip It is just like tipp
It's been able to thrive, you know. I feel like
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like this year particularly, it's like you can tell that
his hunger is there, and you can tell that he
is getting those goals, he's getting those opportunities, and he's
not making he's getting the finish down, I feel, you know.
So it's like I don't want to trade him just
when he's starting to kind of turn it rear around
here a little bit, you know, because I feel like
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tipp It has that upside where it's like, well, offensively
he can contribute, you know, and that's nothing against Sandheim.
It's just that, you know Blue line wise, if like
you said, Hughes is an upgrade from him and fills
his role, then who do you got to replace tipp It?
You know that do you have possibilities? But you know
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you got potential for others to replace him. But at
the same time, it's like it's not a guarantee, whereas
I feel like, okay, well with Hughes it should be fine,
you know, just I mean putting that in there.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
No, I mean, that's a fair point. And you bring
up you bring up with a good thing. But the
one thing that I will agree with you is there's
definitely option so and I agree with your Robbie Zgres
has definitely helped the power play. You got Bump, you
have Barkie, you have a couple, you have potentially gribanking. Right,
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there's options there to fill that role. So my my
big thing with Owen Tippett, who's been really good defensively
this year, I'm just gonna put that out there now,
has shown some inconsistency this year as far as scoring. Uh,
He's either going to light the lamp for a couple
of points at night or he's gonna give you nothing.
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He had a great game against the Devil, so he
had three points in that game and two goals, and
then he had a he had a goal the other night.
Who are they playing? I think it was an Islanders.
I think he had a goal in but anyway, oh sorry, No,
it was an assist against the Panthers. Okay, So with
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the tippet, I would be okay, depending on what the
deal is to move him. Unless he starts setting the
world on fire, then obviously I would want to keep him.
If he can find that consistency. And we're only twenty
five games in. The guy's got seventeen points on the year,
so by no means is he dogging it this year.
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He's definitely finding the net. He's been a lot better,
a lot more patient with the puck, which is what
I've been liking about him. But if we can move
him and get a piece that is going to be
an upgrade in another position, or allow an opportunity for
Alex Bump to be able to get his trial in
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the NHL, I'm all for that. I mean right now,
right now, it's the time to take risks on stuff
like that, because I do think Alex Bump belongs up here.
I don't think he got dogged in training camp. I
just don't think they had the spot for him. And
a guy like that, you want him to get consistent minutes.
So that's a big that's a big deal for a
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young kid like Bump, so especial coming off the year
that he did. Plus on the other side, you got
Martne who's probably a year or two away, maybe three,
depending on if he goes back to college next year.
You gotta you gotta give these you gotta open up
spaces for these young kids somewhere, and unfortunately sometimes that
winds up meaning guys like Tip it have to be
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sent out.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
True, I'm not saying that it's impossible. I just feel like, okay, well,
you know, let's I'm not saying that there is an options.
What I'm saying is it's it's kind of unproven at
the moment, you know, like the potential is very much there,
just unproven right now. Whereas it's a little bit of
a different story with Hughes. Hughes and if you're just
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swapping d Man for d Man, it's literally just we upgraded,
you know, on Sandheim Spot. Whereas with you trade tip
It away. Now it's like, Okay, well there's an opportunity here,
but there's a lot of unproven talent, and so you're
immediately if you want to put somebody in that spot,
that's great, but then you're going to have more inconsistency,
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and that, to me is what I don't necessarily want
to see. I want to see, like, Okay, well let's
see if Tippic can get it going here, you know,
and I feel like he can. I just think that
as long as, like we've been saying, consistency, if he
can get that consistency down, tip It can be a
really strong player for this squad in moving forward.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
So uh real quick that it didn't mean to interrupt.
But the one thing we're going to have to also
consider is what what team is going to be willing
to take on five years at six point two everything
you have to think about it might be a little
bit harder, and it's I think it's all going to
depend on Martin. Yeah, he decided to do when he signed.
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Does he sign at the end of this season, does
he go back for another year? So it really I
think that's the big thing to consider here with with
a move of Owen Tippett, is you know, how soon
do do you get his replacement? Who's his replacement? You know,
there's some some questions there. Who's going to take the
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contract for five years at six point two? You know?
Do you send it to a team like who's ever
sitting at the bottom. I don't know who's at the
bottom anymore. It used to be Anaheim Chicago. They're all
up in playoff positions now, so I don't even know
he's down at the bottom anymore. He's sending to the
San Jose. Oh, maybe a team like San Jose.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Hey, well, here's the thing, though, San Jose has been
playing a lot better this year, so I think I think, honestly,
I think they'd be open to, you know, anything that
could possibly improve their team's offensive capabilities. You know. I mean,
Celebrini and Smith have just been lighting the lamp up
over there, you know, And honestly, you know, guys like
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Wenberg all of a sudden, you know, finding some life
in them, and to Foley's been finding some life in
himself again, you know. So it's like, Okay, I'm sure
San Jose wouldn't be against it.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
No, san Jose currently right now is in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Spot, right which is I mean, they beat the Mammoth
last night six to three, and Will Smith was like
one of the big reasons why so.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I mean, like I said, Oscar had a rough start
to the year. He did, and I mean rough, like
he got lit up. I don't know what how he
hit a he had a switch and he's been locked
in ever since.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I think what it is is, I just think San
Jose just there. I think that they feel like, Okay,
we're here to prove a point. We're here to we're
here to make a statement that you know, the future
is with us. And honestly, look at Celebrini play. I mean,
that kid is unfreaking believable with what he can do.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
He's almost double points in games played. Like, he's forty
points in twenty How many games have they played. I
don't even know how many games they've played in twenty seven.
Forty points in twenty seven games. I know, that's a
ridiculous pace.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
That's a ridiculous pace. That's like early Crosby years.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Crosby right now, Yeah, I mean, so don't don't don't sit,
don't sleep on Crosby, don't sleep on that age. He's
still producing.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Oh, he definitely is. He had two goals against the
Flyers last night, so.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I think he had an assist on Russ Gold too.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right, And I think Crosby is the guy who scored
the most goals against the Flyers. So you know, it's like, Okay,
well that that fits it, I guess. But the point
being is that, I mean, celebrating is just fucking crushing it,
And like, this is a kid, Literally, this is a kid.
He's not even legally allowed to fucking drink in this country,
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and yet he's fucking crushing it right now.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yes, Oscar, right now, he's sitting at a nineteenth nine
ten save percentage.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Like he's a kid too.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
He is a kid. I mean he's a little bit older,
but he's a kid.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Still a kid, especially by our standards.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
So pretty like this is a kid who's gonna find
his prime in a couple of years and he's already
set in the stage to be to make it. Nashville
just absolutely regret moving him.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Uh huh. I'm just gonna say, right now, my career
is looking like a fucking badass, fucking GM.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Right now, they have Ravensbergen behind him. I know that's
going to be a fantastic duo and they are going
to be scary for years to come.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
San Jose is it's the Sharks are coming back. The
Fins are coming back. And that's not good news if
you're if you're out in the Pacific Division, because that
is not good news.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Ducks are back, The Ducks are, Kings are working, Kings
are doing what they do. Golden Knights struggling a little bit,
but not not nearly as bad as you would think
they are.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
But as they stumble a little bit, it's an opportunity
for the California teams to kind of get their footing back,
you know. I mean, it's been a little bit since
we've seen all three California teams make the playoffs. Well
I mean, as crazy as it may sound, who knows.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I'm crazy, but he ready ready, Las Vegas might actually
have a goalie now. So that's something else to think about.
Because Carter Hart makes his debut to night for the
for the Golden.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Knights, well that would be interesting to see.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
So if he's any form of the player that he
used to be, this is this could be a really
nasty division to play in. This year, and it's already
looking that way. Yeah, real quick, before we move into
the holiday break here, of course, you have ahem, the
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first Yeah, pretty much. I mean, I'm with you on
that duckster and first right behind him are the Kings,
and that's a two point differential. Third place is Vegas third,
one point behind La. You have San Jose twenty nine points,
Seattle twenty eight points, Edmonton twenty seven points, Vancouver in
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seventh with twenty three points, Calgary all the way, and
last than twenty two points. It's eleven points between first
and last. That's not a lot.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
That is not a lot at all. That division's going
to be rough because that means that you're going to
have at least two teams that are really competitive in
that division, especially depending upon what happens in the Central
that may not make it, that could essentially miss the
playoffs this year.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, I never plus goal differential.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
And then looking at the standings, every team except for
the last two all have a winning record, and even still,
Vancouver's four points behind Edmonton, Cougary's five points behind Edmonton.
There could be a lot of people from the Pacific,
a lot of teams in the Pacific Division in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
This year could be still early, so we'll see what
happens when the second half of the season rolls in.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Oh yeah, we're only twenty five, twenty seven games in
so D this is just close now, but it's could
be very different in the next twenty games.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Absolutely, And Chris saying they're all giving up more goals
than they're scoring, well, that's the thing that's actually been
kind of routine in the Pacific Division. I mean, look
at the playoff games. I mean, just look at the
Ebonton Oilers and the King last like three playoff series
with each other. How many fucking goals are scored in
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games in those series? Like we're talking games are like
nine to five, six, eight, you know, we're talking like
we're talking some crazy ass scores between those teams in
the playoffs. That's the division that's just goal scoring heavy, basically.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I mean, that's fine. They can give up all the
goals they want, but these teams are still final ways
to win. That's the point. You know, the LA's got
a minus two differential, but they're twelve six and seven
Las Vegas, they're even, they're eleven six and eight you know,
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if LA and Vegas stop going to overtime, yeah, maybe
you're looking at something a little bit different. But yeah,
San Jose thirteen and eleven, Seattle eleven and seven. Their
differentials are minus seven. These teams are still finding ways
to win something. It's not always you know, black and
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white with some of the numbers, but these teams are
finding ways to win, and they're the tightest division in
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Right and I correct myself, by the way, was three
nothing against Tampa. My bad. But with that, let's turn
it around here to the holiday road trip for the Flyers. Here,
as I've pulled up the schedule that we have for
December rolling in, it is December second, so we are
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now officially in the holiday month and Flyers have an
interesting schedule coming up. So obviously tomorrow they start off
against Buffalo that's the beginning of their December, and then
then they have the Avalanche, which you know, the Abs
are always a challenging team to go up against.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
If you're you got one regulation loss this year, I know.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
That's crazy to think about. And then an interesting game
because on that December ninth, the Sharks and the Flyers
face each other for the first time, and then Vegas
and the Flyers face off with each other. And then
it's the Hurricanes and the Flyers, and that's actually a
home and home I believe, between the two of those
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on thirteenth and the fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Don't see many of them anymore.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Nope, but I don't think you do. And it is
a back to back, so that'll be interesting. Flyers then
face the Canadians, then they face the Sabers again, then
they face the Rangers, so and that'll be an afternoon
that'll be a matinee game. Then the Canucks Tockets old team.
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Then we've got the Blackhawks and the Flyers facing off
with each other. So PRIs you might want to highlight
December twenty third. That's when your your boy bird Dart
goes up against the Flyers for the first time this year.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
I would love to see it if Chicago wore the
Black jerseys against in that game. Those are so sharp.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Well, it will be in Chicago, so it is possible.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
I'm so happy they brought those jerseys back. I'm happy
Dallas brought back the nineteen ninety nine looking see.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I always love those jerseys from the Stars.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I don't modernize it too, which is great.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I will say this, though, this is just me. Maybe
I'm alone in this. I really don't care for the
Dallas Stars rebrand. I've never really cared for it. Honestly.
I always thought it was kind of shit. Yeah, I
preferred the old logo. I preferred the old look to
be brutally honest.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
I just don't like the highlight of jersey that they have.
It's I can live with everything else. I don't like
the highlighted jersey. It's disgusting, stupid.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I got you, I got you. Flyers then take on
the Kraken, and then they take on the Canucks one
more time finish off that season series. Then they take
on the Flames to finish that one and that ends
the year. So oh and that's on New Year's Eve
they take off the Flames. So that's what we've got
on the docket for.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
The won a lot of winnable games in that. Chicago,
I mean, Colorado's gonna be tough. Chicago has the potential
to be a tough game because they've been They've been
really hot. Uh for the majority of the year. They're
kind of slowing up a little bit. They're coming back
down to earth a smidge, but lord knows where they
be in the next couple of weeks. The Chicago's getting
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fantastic goaltending from Spencer Night. He's been just out out
of this world this year. Bdard looking like he's back in,
back in his his game shape, you know, Frank Naser
really good. Chicago has has the makings to be a really,
really tough matchup for the Flyers.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Could be I would say, probably the most winnable game
out of all of these. That would say, m hmm.
I would argue the Flames would probably be the most
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winnable game.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Don't want Dylan here you say that.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
I mean he's gonna I mean, he's gonna love it.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
But like listen at Dylan, love you, bro, But uh,
I mean the Flames have you know, they haven't exactly
been killing it this year.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
No, And he doesn't want him to. He wants he
wants Kevin McKenna.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Right, I get just saying, just saying it's a winnable
game for the Flyers. If the Flyers are playing well
going into the new year, they they may very well
win that game. Just saying I mean, hey, you beat
us in Calgary. Okay, you got your win at home,
and this one you're gonna be in Philly. Let us
get the win in Philly. There you go even trade off,
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and then you don't have to see us for the
rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Again. He's he's all about Calgary losing right now. I'm
losing as many games as possible. I'm the one, the
one that sticking out to me right now, and it's
it's kind of looking at it's staring me in the face,
which is kind of like Vegas. Vegas is coming back.
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They are in Philly, the return of Carter Heart.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
That could be an intriguing matchup.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
That will be very intriguing to see. Uh, that one's
going to be probably the most intriguing out of all
of them. I mean, obviously the ones that are going
to be interesting ones to stand out obviously get the
rivalry between the Flyers and the Rangers, and then the
home at home with Carolina should be intriguing because obviously
the Flyers would they have to win at least one
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game out of that. You do not want to lose
a home and home. I also think that the I
think the game between the Sharks and the Flyers will
be interesting. Well, Yo, Greg, I think that has the
potential to be interesting because just the way the Sharks
have been playing, so that will be intriguing to see.
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I mean, just imagine if, if you know, mitchkov decides
he's gonna be having an amazing game and Celebriti decides
to do the same thing and be like, oh my god,
we could literally see two talented players going crazy.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, no, for sure. And I said this when we
did our schedule preview, like, I'm really shocked that they're
putting of all the games to put the Flyers on
T and T. It's it's against Buffalo, but I mean, yeah,
but yeah, I can see I can see San Jose
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not being a pushover team anymore. They're like, like you're saying,
they're really starting to put it together. They still have
some holes to fill too, but they've done a very
good job this year, really turning it around after a
rough start.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
But I I will say, and I do agree, fuck
the Penguins forever in always and Chris saying I could
see Philly beat the Flames Chicago in Vegas, So he's
kind of agreeing for the most part with us. He's
agreeing with me on the Flames. He's agreeing with you
with Vegas.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
So I don't necessarily know if Flyers are gonna beat Vegas,
but I mean they tend to play the top teams
a lot tougher than some of the bottom feeders. It's
interesting to me because I, like I said, it's going
to be the return of Carter Heart and is he
going to be a net or is he going to
be playing back up that game. I mean, that's interesting
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his return tonight. So we'll we kind of see how
things go. And I'm lowering my expectations for how he's
probably gonna Look, he hasn't played a year and a half.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, it depends on how he performs, you know, in
the weeks to come before this game. But let's say
weeks but it's really only like a week before this game. Yeah,
but but yeah, I kind of dread the game against
Colorado only because it could get away from us real
quickly if we're not careful. If the defense holds strong, though,
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then we have the potential to get a win on Colorado.
But the problem is if Colorado starts lighting the lamp
up and starts giving either Vladar or Ersen a sunburn. Oh,
it's gonna be a long night. Well, Colorado has the
potential to do that.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
The good news is this, if you if you take
them to overtime, you have a.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Shot, right right, That is good point.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, they have seventeen regulation wins. They have six overtime losses.
I'm trying to do the math. Eighteen twenty four. Yeah,
all their losses have come from overtime.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
Well, the well, the good news is right, and the
good news is too, is that the Flyers have, you know,
seemed to be addicted to the overtime. You know how
many games have we already played that have gone to OT.
I don't think we have the most OT games. I
I think there's one or two teams ahead of us,
but we're still pretty high up there in the top
five for ots.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, I mean Vegas is eight eight OT losses, so
they're I think they're above the Flyers as far as overtime,
they Flyers are have four fourteen wins, seven of them
were in regulation, so they were in at least ten.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
That's crazy. And Priz is saying that they only are
up three points on Dallas, but that goes to show
that Dallas is always going to be nipping at the
heels of anybody in that division. That's just how they are.
I mean, Dallas is a Cup contender, Colorado is a
Cup contender. So I mean you have two teams right
there that are trying to get you know, playoff whole ice, sure,
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the whole run.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Dallas also has two games in the hand too, so
right right, that's gonna get them a little bit of
an event. So the way Colorado's playing right now, you
give them those two games, instead of being up three,
they're potentially up seven.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Right So now I will say this to another winnable game,
I think the Kracking could be a winnable game in
my opinion, out of those Not to say that the
crack And are a bad team, but I think that
they are still a team that they can be beaten.
They can look susceptible real quickly. As for that, what
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do you think? How do you feel about the Canucks?
Do you think that they would be beatable?
Speaker 1 (54:41):
I am yes and no, yes and no, Yes and no.
They're one of those teams where I feel like if
you sleep on them, they're going to hurt you.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
That's true talent, right. Montreal has the potential to be
a crazy game only because the Canadians team is freaking
out of control the way they like to play.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
So yeah, and they're so uber talented too, like it's disgusting,
you know, right, and it goes so ther depth is
there's a lot deeper than people think it is. It's
just so much young talent on that team. I'm trying
to think if the Flyers have played them already.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
And how yes they did, and they beat Montreal because
they decided foot right because Montreal was winning going into
the third period and they got into a fight with Nick.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Deloriate Arts the team right were of that game.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, he rushed what's his nuts? How do you say
his name? It starts with I forget how you say
his name, But point being is that, uh, he beat
his ass and then after that Flyers tied the game
up and wanted to shootout. It's like, that is stupid.
I don't know what the funk my Trell was thinking
on that one, Jackie, that's how you say that? Okay?
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I trust you, Priz because I know you're a Habs fan,
so I trust you on that one. A jack I
h okay, okay, okay, okay, point being is that that
has the potential to be a crazy one. Oh that's right,
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your mom's the Habs fan. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
But the point being is the boy that is pronounced.
I love hockey players. Names are the best.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
You do have to love them. But yeah, so, I
mean the December schedule, it's not as bad as it
could be. I mean, we could be facing some really
challenging teams. And I'm not saying that no team is
No team is just gonna be a fucking doormat, obviously,
but the but like you said, winnable games here, there
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are some that are gonna probably make a sweat. Definitely.
The Colorado game will be one of those that'll be
a challenging obviously. The game against the Rangers is a matinee,
and mattinees are always crazy and out of control, and
it is the Rangers, so that's gonna be one of
those fucking games where you know, anything could happen, Anything
is potential to happen in that and you know, I mean,
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you got two games against the Canucks, so whatever happens
on the twenty second will definitely affect the thirtieth, that's
for sure. And the first games in Philly and the
next one is in Vancouver, so.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
You know which, that's always a dangerous place to play.
No matter how good or bad the team is. They
show up and show out, so it's always a tough
spot to play. Rogers Center of Vancouver is is scary,
but it's sad when the PWHL team is better than
the NHL team. And then, don't get me wrong, love
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what the PhD p w HL is doing there. It's
a fantastic product. I came away from an expand and
finally start beings down here. I was doing fantastic.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
I was hoping that when they were talking about expansion
they were getting ready to give the team's names. I
was hoping that they were going to put a team
in Philly.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
But apparently they're the next expansion is going to be Philly.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
Good good.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
I don't know how now true that is, but Philly
should be getting a team in the next couple of years.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
Awesome, because I would love to. I would love to
start watching the Women's Hockey League and that would be
a great reason to start watching it. Yeah, to see
a Philly team, watch them go on to win championships
and be like Okay, awesome, amazing. Can we get the
Flyers to fucking do it now?
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Nah, they're not going to do that because there's going
to be Philly team and you know they'd like to
keep us.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Stop it, stop it. We can't keep having this damn curse.
I mean, for fox sake. The Eagles have two Super
Bowl rings for Fox's sake. Come on, if they.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
Can do it many super Bowl rings? Is Stanley Cup
titles for the Fires?
Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, and there's many World Series rings too on top
of it.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
So it's fine, right.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
The only one that has more is the Sixers.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
All right? We need one more for everybody, one more
for everybody.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
Three?
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yeah, three, We just need one more per team. It's fine,
it's fine. We can do it, just one more.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
So the Eagles can do it this ye can do
it by winning a super Bowl, all right. Let the
Eagles do it this year. Since they have the potential
to once again win another Super Bowl, the Phillies can finally,
and then the Phillies can get off their fucking asses
for once in the playoffs and go win another World Series.
And then there you go. There's two teams right there
in the bag. There you go.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
Yeah, easier said than done, but logic, let's go wrap it.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
Up right right right? Absolutely? All right? Yes, I agree, Tommy,
what's up? Zigrus is a killer right now? And that's
what I'm saying. I gonna get a women's hockey and
w NBA team. Billy Grinder can play center for both teams.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
No, keep part away from my city.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Anyway. So we uh. With that being said, was there
anything else that you wanted to throw in there for
the for the December schedule there, bry.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
No, I think it's a it's a definitely a month.
I think they can come out with the winning record
for sure. Yeah, but I want this this is the
month where the season officially starts for every NHL team.
Absolutely that's going to get back into the playoffs too,
So you know, I want this to be a month
where they come out a little more consistently, set the tone,
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play with the lead more. Because we were saying, I
was saying this last last week with Robbie, this is
this is a team that has the fight to bounce back.
Imagine if this team played with a consistent lead.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah. I mean here's the other thing too, and I
will point this out. The lead even when the Flyers
score first. And this is a good thing. We brought
that up because they haven't held leads very well and
that's something that they need to work on. Because they
had a lead against New Jersey and they let Jersey
back into that game. Though they didn't win it, but
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they let them back in that game. The Devil's potentially
had a chance to take that game back. So it's like, Okay,
let's be a little bit better with our leads here.
When we score first, which isn't often, let's protect it better.
Can we do that? That's all I'm asking. That's one
big criticism I have right now with that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
I mean, you're going to let up a goal or two. Fortunately,
you know average goals in the game is going to
be three for most NHL teams. I'm good with giving
up two to three, but you know, if they do
decide to and this is why I I think the
Devil's game was probably their best performance of the year
so far. Uh you know, the answered and then answer
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right back, and they basically just stomped them into the ground,
which they do love to see, right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Right. But but what I'm saying is it's like, let's
when we get the first goal, and we get a
chance to set the tone, which hasn't been very often.
We've had to come back a lot. Let's try to
do a little bit stronger and holding, you know. And
that's the only thing I'm asking for, because you know,
once you get up three and then you start to
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you know, let's let's protect that a little bit more.
You know, let's not sit back on our heels. Let's
protect that a little bit more, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
And I think as we fill holes which we've been
talking about in the in the poll question today, you know,
I think that's going to become a little bit more
stable as far as power players and stuff like that.
(01:03:07):
You know, we we we find more more of those
holes filled and get more consistency from guys like Mitch
CoV And and you know force or maintains his health
Zegers and keeps doing what he's doing. We add to that.
I think this team's going to start doing that a
little bit more, and they're going to be a little
bit more dangerous. But right I just think for right now,
they have to they have to just continue to be resilient,
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continue to answer goals after they've been given to them,
try and get two or three like they did against
the Devils, and go up before to one, maybe four, two.
But you know, the thing that I've been loving about
this team so far as their fight, their resiliency, their
ability to climb back into games and never count themselves out.
That's going to go a long way. But you also
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have to find those games where you're you're setting the tone,
you're getting the lead early, and you're protecting that lead
throughout the entirety of the game. To answer Prison's question,
I would say their worst period probably the first.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
First period has been real rough for them, but third
period has been really great.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
They've always been the last couple of years, they've been
a really good third period.
Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Team absolutely, so in the end, that will pretty much
do it for the Flyers. Talk a two D December,
like we said, has the potential to be a good
month for the Flyers. It doesn't seem like it's as
much a gauntlet as it has been in the past,
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but again you still have to earn them. So hopefully
the Flyers fight and drive as we were talking about,
as you just mentioned, Brian doesn't go away, and they
have the ability to continue to thrive in the third period.
And maybe also thrive a little bit in the first
possibly maybe set some tones more often than not.
Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
But Martones, maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
I see what you did there. So the point being
is that let's see the month of December, let's see
the Flyers finish out the year of twenty twenty five
strong as we get ready to welcome in twenty twenty
six and the getting closer and closer to the All
Star break and the second half of the regular season
when the playoff hunts really start to heat up. But
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me pull up the schedule one more time, just so
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that I know if we have, Yes, we do have
a game to react to. And wouldn't you know it,
Remember how I said the Flyers are playing the Sharks
this month. There it is, so the Flyers will be
taking on the Sharks next week and we could do
uh reactions to the end of that game. So that
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will be next week on the docket for us. Until then,
you stay safe, you stay healthy out there, folks, from
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you next week.
Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
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