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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up everybody. It's Tuesday night. You know what it is.
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It's what we'd like to call the Hockey Happy Hour
Bowl as the Anaheim Ducks are taking on the Philadelphia
Flyers and the Philadelphia Flyers are taking it to the
Ducks tonight for one right now, if the second animssion,
We're going to take you through the third period, give
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We're gonna do a little post game.
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We're also going to talk about the Christian Devorak extension
and what we what we think about it and what
could this what could this signing lead to for this
team moving forward at the trade headline into free.
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Agency or maybe even into maybe the next couple of
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M and the Broken One Rob Hobia.
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Anheim Ducks a dirty motherfucking team. Who would have thought
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thing to have in life. The poll question for today
is the Flyers overpaid forward Christian divorac with this new
contract obviously in the five point mill range and worth
five years for one Christian Divoract that is that is
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a lot of that's a lot of length right there.
Don't you think or do you not? Do you think
that maybe it is justified at the end of the day, gentlemen,
take it away.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, as always, I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree with the pole.
I don't think it's an pay at all. I actually
like where this the aav for this contract is. I
really like where it's going to be in the next
couple of years, as a cap is going to continue
to increase, so this is going to really look like
peanuts by the time we're in the second year of
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this contract. So when the cap is I believe is
up to one hundred and five million, I believe this
is where it's going to be in about two years.
So this is really I think it's quite an underpayment
for a guy who's great in the locker room, a
guy who's a good leader, a guy who's bringing a
good culture, and a guy who honestly has been a
big part in Trevor Jeegers's resurgence this year. As far
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as on length goes, that's kind of where I have
an issue with this. I don't like the five years personally,
but you know, we talked about it last week.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
If we were.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Falling more into that two to three range, I would
have been a little bit better, and I thought this
would have been a great deal. But I mean this,
this deal isn't terrible. It's it's really not because you're
keeping him around, and it's it's pretty much a movable contract,
especially when we get later into this.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
This deal for for Devorak. But I don't hate it.
I don't love it. I don't think it's an overpay.
But again I again, I just don't like them length.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Robbie, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, before I get to my answer, Brian, you make
a great point too. The Flyer's goal at this point
has to be to re sign Trevor Ziegris. You want
to keep him happy, keep him with the linemate that
he's building chemistry with, that's feeding him the puck. Well,
that's being playmaking countless times. We've seen it countless times
tonight for one second intermission here uh Flyers Anaheim. But
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in regards to what Flyers paid for Devorak, keeping him
intel helps you resign Zegres right, And I too like
the aa BA. It's the years that caught me by surprise.
For what Devorak brings to a center hungry club like
the Flyers, five point one five mil per year is steal. However,
that five year deal it made me scratch my head,
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especially when you have these young center iceman in this
pipeline that you don't want to block. I believe it
took that year's that commitment to make Debo put pen
in the paper though and with and I also believe
that the expectation for the Flyers front office is that
low AaB makes him more movable as he starts to
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approach his age thirty three or thirty four season at
that point, clearing the way for a now eighteen going
on a nineteen year old player in Jack Desbit that
would work out along that timeline where yeah, the five
years could potentially block them, but at five point one
five million a year, if you identify a team that's
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rebuilding that could use that veteran leadership from center ice,
just as the Flyers, you know our value, you know
you valuing from the Vorax presence here. Even if Despike
in his production declines over the length of the contract,
other future rebuilding teams are still going to covet what
he brings, the strength of the face off, that this
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defensive prowess. He's responsible, you hockey player. So all the
things that made the Flyers take that Flyer on him
on a one year deal, right, They've gotten more value
out of it than they could have banked for. And
I think it was important to lock that down, keep
this chemistry going because now what it tells this team
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is that we're still building for the future, but we're
ready to win right now too. It doesn't be mutually exclusive.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
So from my opinion on this, I'll be honest, I
kind of the salary doesn't bother me, but I don't know.
I'm not comfortable with the year. I think that the
years could have been a little bit better. I mean
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personally for me, I think that, you know, five years
is a lot for a guy who's, in my opinion,
and this is my opinion, he is a rental player.
Five years is a long time for that. And getting
back to the point of youth in the pipeline where
that should be a major question mark on everybody's mind
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right now of is this going to block somebody possibly
or is this going to cause a problem later on
down the line. I don't think it'll be an issue
for resigning players because, like I said, I don't think
the salary is really a problem. But when it comes
to the length, that's where my head is scratching. And
I get it that, you know, you want to keep
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chemistry together, you want to keep Zegres happy, and you
want to try and build off of what Devorak's been doing.
But at the same token, I just I feel like
this is the It's not necessary for the five years.
To me, I feel like three would have been the
max you should have. That's where you should have maxed
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out at. In my opinion, That's how I feel about that.
So I'm gonna say agree in the sense of too
many years. I'm not agreeing that I disagree for the salary. Wise,
I think the salary is just fine.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Right, It's what it took and they were prioritizing for
whatever reason. Hey, good on Devorak though, Maddie, he took
a one year deal and bet on himself and it
paid off, right.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, gotta give him credit for that.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And I think both of you guys picked up on
a good point here is maybe this is uh, this
signing is leading to they aren't as impressed with what
they've seen from a Jet let Jenko or a jack
Ness or any of the other centers that they have
currently in the pipeline that maybe they're thinking, Hey, let's
hold on to this guy who's having a career years
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so he's playing the best hockey that he's played in
his entire career. Here, let's see what we can do
about locking this guy up for a little bit while
these guys continue to develop. And I think holding onto
Dvorak right now doesn't put as much of a rush on.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Bringing up Jet or Nesbet or anybody else that they
have in the pipeline.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And and Maddie, to your point, this doesn't exactly hold
the Flyers back from going after any free agents. And
I don't know if I said this last week or not,
but the one thing that I think that brought this
on is I don't think that there's enough intriguing in
free agency this year for the Flyers to go after
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anybody else. You have a guy right now who's playing
really well up the middle, and why let them walk,
you know what I mean? So it's one of those soon, Jar,
I feel like it's why sign somebody who may not
work out when we have a guy that's working out
right now.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah, I get that. I definitely feel like the
decision to do this with Devorak, I think that maybe
they don't feel too too comfortable with what's going on
down the pipeline, So I could understand that to an extent.
I do think though, that when it comes to signing
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five years, it just to me, I'm very I'm always
the type who's very unwilling to give length to people
and high salaries to people unless I'm one hundred percent
sure that they've earned it. And I'm not saying Devorac
hasn't earned what he's got, But what I'm saying is
it's like, length wise, it's like I just see him
as a rental player. I don't see him as someone
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who's going to be here six years, seven years down
the line from now. You know, I don't look at
him like I look at sayas Zegris, or I look
at him like a look at a Mitchikov or what
have you. Now, maybe that's a little unfair considering the
talent side, and the Ducks just score to pull themselves
within one on the power play Go On Go from
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kill RN.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
All right, that's two power play goals.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So Coots gets penalized and the Flyers pay for it.
So all right, I have to hunker down here a
little bit in the third period after that one. But
all the same though, again, I just don't see Devorak
in the same light as I see other players that
I feel like would have been more. I feel more
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comfortable with locking them down for a longer period of time.
That's how I feel about it personally.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Now let me see this, Maddie before we start getting
into some of the game here, some for back at action,
So let me see this.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Does it make you feel any better knowing that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's been on Montreal for multiple years, Arizona for multi years,
so other teams aren't treating him as a rental. Other
teams are treating him as a piece to kind of
help third teams move forward. Does that make you feel
any better about the contract signing at all?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
A little bit? I mean, you know a little bit. Again,
it's just like I'm I'm always iffy on like, Okay,
we're bringing in a player and now we're giving him
a longer length on a contract than I feel comfortable with.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Flyers.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Oh, didn't get it. They try to get it back.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Why there was that was bad spot, Yeah it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Was, But anyway, I mean it makes me it feels
a little bit better, just that. I just want to.
I hope his production continues to be, you know, very solid,
and I hope that he continues to have a really
good chemistry with Zigris, because I mean, obviously the goal
is to get Zegris re signed. And once you do that,
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if you can lock that up and these guys can
his future on okay, fine, then there was nothing to
worry about in the first place. But that's the only
thing that I'm just I just want to. I hope
his production stays strong. Is what is what I'm more
concerned of at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
No, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So Chris saying divorak five year extension for a big
win for only five point fifteen mil a year is
a rising capspace league for a guy that fits anywhere
from one Sea to three sea. The Flyers floor is
higher than people think. Bitterly for deadline talk, but what the
Flyers should stay put no matter what. Maybe acquire depth,
but at little to no cost. This is the same
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team largely minus Zegris and Divorak that had the season.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, I would agree to that too, Like unless it's
a it's a move that's going to be like wow,
I don't necessarily think that they should really do anything
crazy because everything they're doing is working right now. They're
the third youngest team in the league, so really no
need to try and do anything. As Hathaway is going
after Cutter for some reason.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I got a little chippy and now he's grabbing onto.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Kets vice versa. Yeah, this game's been chippy all the
entire way.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
This is h Yeah, definitely getting chippy because you see
the captain of the Ducks there, the former flyer Rocoguddas.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, couple, this has been a very chippy game.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Couple questionable hits tonight, one on Drysday A one on Brink.
I'm expecting Johnson to be suspended for that, and he
got what he deserved because that was absolutely disgustingly late.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Drys.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I had no idea where he was and he just
absolutely took advantage and just laid him out for no
reason whatsoever. So I hope Johnson gets suspended and I
hope he gets fined to Max and the you know,
Hopefully Jamie's okay.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, hopefully. It was a pretty scary situation like he
was gonna have to be carted off the ice. Luckily
that did not happen, so that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, getting up under his own power was great.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, big when they're on that part. But so far
here in the third period, Ducks have the only goal
on the power play. Flyers are hoping to try and
get that one back to take back a three goal lead.
Ducks are hoping to get themselves back into this. These
shots right now are thirty three thirteen Flyers, So that
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should tell you a lot about how this game has
been going. It's been a very strong performance from the Flyers,
even though the Ducks scored first, which is kind of
funny when you think about it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, they didn't like they didn't like that. They didn't like.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
No for saying the Zieger's power play goals were a
thing of beauty. They were, they were.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
The thing I like about this series and how it's
kind of become is it's it's a fun I shouldn't
say it's a fun, but it's definitely an emotional rivalry
where now you have so many pieces going from one
team to the other.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So now you have.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Ziegers and Drysdale, then you have Cutter Gotier, you have
Ryan Panling, you.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Have Radco Gutis.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You have a lot of a lot of similar blood
between these two teams, and it's it's honestly, it's turning
into bad blood and it makes for entertaining hockey overall.
But I'm I mean, the first two periods of this
game were high energy, entertaining, definitely fun if you're if
you're into this kind of hockey.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
The flyers at the tone after that that Cutter Gcier goal,
and they have not looked back.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, let's see here. Mark's saying, I don't think they
overpaid Duvorak but five years And then Sjm's saying, happy
belated Holidays, New Year's and all that good stuff. Happy
related holidays and to you as well, and happy New
Year to you as well as Jam. And let's see
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here Chris saying I understand the fear of the war
blocking future centers. But as I was saying on draft night,
Nesbit to me projects as a winger and has the
exact same scouting report coming into the draft as Ver Hagy,
and he backs that up by saying ver Hagy whose
main position is a center but plays most of the
wing when Barkov is healthy.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
He makes a good point. You can assume right things
are going to work out, you know, like in terms
of positional wise forward, whyse you see guys bounce around
and h just like talking said in today's press, I'll
quote him real quick, you know, in regard to when
he was asked about, you know, the Devoiac contract extension,
and he goes, from my experience center iceman are tough
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to find their gold. He comes in here and he's
done a really nice job for us. I know him
really well, obviously from his Arizona days. I think Danny
and Jonesy since signing him, have liked his game. He's
well liked in the locker room. He's a culture guy.
He's a guy who came into camp in shape and
does the right things. And then you know parentheses, with
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this move, you're keeping character and quality in the room,
and ultimately that's good for us. So that's that's it.
Talk Its thoughts on the Davoyac extension, and and and
and when you have an opportunity to lock a guy
in maybe the five years, maybe they're not going to
be as quick to move them, you know, in that
fourth or fifth year. It depends on what the situation is.
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If Nesbeth stays at center ice and you need to
free up space, maybe that's how you do it and
you get value from it, because ultimately, guys, it's not
heard of going you know, Duvoyak being twenty nine going
on thirty, right to really find the true nature of
his game into his thirties. And I'm looking at you, Dustin.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Brown, right, Yeah, it's true. And you know what's funny.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I did meet Dustin once and he was actually really
cool dude. But it's yeah, I mean, you bring up
a great point.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I mean, he's going to be twenty nine, he's gonna
be thirty.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And again, I'm curious when I said this before, I'm
curious that if they saw something that they weren't necessarily
sure about with some of the younger guys, and maybe
this is what led to the contract being the way
it shaped up.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Let's see here, we've got Mark saying, how about the
hit on Brink and the suspension coming, Well, it's not
the Brink hit that I think the suspension's going to
I think it's going to be more of the hit
that was on to Drysdale.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Agreed, Agreed.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I mean I didn't think the hit on Brink and
I definitely want to hear Robbie's point of view on this.
I didn't think the hit on Brink was a bad hit.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I thought it was. It looked worse than it was.
But the Ross Johnson hit.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
There was intent, So I I think he's definitely getting
suspend Robby.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, that's accurate. There was a tent to injure there
because you know, right there your you can go need
a need, so many bad things can happen there, and
Jamie's your opponent's not even looking at you. If you're
going to make a clean body check out in the
ice and really just blow someone up, you got to
make eye contact, right and with no eye contact there's
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a tent in the injurre there. It definitely would not
be surprised to be suspended five to six games for
that at a minimum. And on the first hit too,
I believe was dirty because it's not the hit. He
got him with the shoulder, but the follow through caught
him up in the jaw right that's it's the sneaky
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things that when you get former Rangers on your team
they bring with them here. Because that's what I'm seeing
right now. I'm seeing this as being a really strong
Chris Crider Jacob Truba locker room, and they were all
about doing the hits that you're not going to see
on TV that the reps aren't going to be looking
at with their heads turned or what have you. And hey,
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I mean in the end, you have it's working for
them out in the Pacific, right. You know, they bring
goal scoring. They haven't brought too many shots on goal
setting at fifteen on this game, but they've had a
lot of time in possession. Right. It seems like the
Ducks have been in the Flyers zone way more than
the other way around. Yet the Flyers have double the shots,
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more than double the shots. So you have to have
that other layer of the game. And that's what a
new coach Joe Quimble is going to bring too. He's
no saint behind there too. He comes from turmoil, he
comes from controversy, right he you know it's been successful though,
where you see teams like Anaheim and San Jose being
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right there with the Flyers in terms of a resurgence
on a rebuild.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Let's see here Mark saying I'm thinking no, but it
also looked questionable arts to the hit on brink And
I mean, honestly, I would say right now, if you
have to debate on whether or not that hit was
clean or not, there's a good chance that it wasn't.
And that's how I feel about that, honestly. If you
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got to think about it, it's like, then, yeah, that's
a suspicious hit. You know. It's like, Okay, I may
you may not have had intent, but you may have right.
That's the problem when it comes to that is like
then it comes down to the referees discretion, you know,
then it comes down to, okay, did he have mouse?
And that was that intended on his part? Actually, more
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to the to the discipline side of things, the league
taking a look at the hits and everything looking at
is all right, did he have a malice intent on
that one? Even if it wasn't that obvious? Do you
feel like, hm, you know, like questioning a little bit,
you know, no, for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
And I definitely agree.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'm trying to see time possession because I feel like
the flyers if those first two periods, I felt like
and I'm couldn't get it out of their zone.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
But anyway, that's not that's not important.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
But the I mean, like I said, the hit on
on Dryzell's there's definite intent there because Robbie, you're spot on,
you like you have to look at your you be
able to look at your punent in the face. And
he clearly took advantage of that situation. And I get it,
Like this is this, this rivalry has turned into an
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emotional roller coaster because like I said, there's former ducks
on on the flyers, there's former flyers on the ducks.
So like you know, especially with everything surrounding Carter Gocci,
it's definitely a lot more.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Emotionally charged than it used to be. So things are
gonna happen. But I mean, as far as sprink Go is,
like I I.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Mean, may maybe uh it could be suspended. I don't
think it's gonna be. But I mean, the one thing
I will say on that is is the fact that
that Noah Kate's got a ten minute misconduct for that
was complete, in total, utter bullshit in my opinion. Two
reasons One, there was no need to call misconduct or instigator.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Both guys were willing to drop the gloves two like
he didn't do anything. Like he dropped the gloves.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
They threw a couple of punches and it was over,
where's the where's the game misconduct? When you're trying to
just have the ref set.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Of tone, Okay, that might be, that might be a.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Good reason to do it, but clearly it didn't work
because look at how this game has been the rest.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Of the way.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I was gonna say what tone them were the restaurant
to say, because it failed miserably it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Is it's to me, it's just that that made no sense.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Like for the one guy who stuck up for sticking
up first teammate, it was absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
It should have been five and five and that was it.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Right, Well, I made a couple of things there, and
in regard to the first hit on Brink now absolutely
not suspended worthy. It was just it was just it's
a rough hit, you know what I mean. It's playing
aggressive hockey. It's what you gotta do. And this game
has had stanzas I agree with you right where Flyers
have had you know, a lot of offensive time period,
but you see Anaheim surging. You know, even Brian Bouchet
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said it was three to one, fourteen to three in
shots at fourteen things.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Okay, we got sorry, Robbie, didn't mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
There.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Halthaway was dropping them with gouddhas.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Knew this was coming and being your captain. I found
that interesting. I saw that today. I was like, good
for Goudas, even though you're all dirty bastards. Oh oh
that's it. Oh see, Halfaway laid him out in the
corner and Goudas was like, now he's got ah. That
was retaliation.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Mmm, okay, all right, that's what That's.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
What we've seen from Halfway in the past two games, right,
he's really uh, he's really trying to stick in the
lineup after being a healthy scratch. I I didn't like
him taking that fight though against Edmonton. He could have
really turned this way of that game.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
O oh, he crushed you in more good.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Nice solid check right there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah that was that was a good hit.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, goodness there, that's a good good time to start
a scrap of Hathaway.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Gotta defend the rookie there.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And I will say that was Hathaway basically the receipt
was taken earlier from the hit, and that was him
repaying it basically.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
But again, eye contact, hip check, good hockey, good hit.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yep, that was a welcome to the league kid hit.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Major pelloty on the hit.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
No, not for that one.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Right. Oh so in regard to Kate's earlier right, that's
how this is how you saw that you do slap
him on the wrist because that there was no call
on the hit, right, and you know, no intent to injure.
But he's got to defend his player, right. You give
them two for roughing and you call it a day.
I I don't understand why there was even a fighting
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major call. The other dude didn't even swing fists. He
just kind of coward inside his jersey, right.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I mean either way, either way, I think you and
I are on the same pagere it should have been
should have been even, should have been even Stevens.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I didn't like. I didn't like that Johnson hit man.
So I knew right before this show I was just
gonna keep on poking your ducks this whole show because
I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad about that hit, Brian.
That was bad hit. It'll be suspended for fifty games.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Listen, I don't like for I never liked. I never
liked Ross Johnson to begin with. I understand why he's
on the team. He's got a rode fill, but I'm
with you. I did not like to hit the minute
that I saw it, and then seeing Jamie down, I
like Jamie. Jamie's always been a really one of my
favorite ducks, and he's one of my favorite flyers. Like,
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you don't want to see a guy go down like that.
It's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So see what they're got a little bit of jaw
jackin back and forth, little chirp in between Goudas and uh,
probably more friendly chirping. It looks like between Goudas and
Hathaway there in the box, nothing aggressive, waiting to see
what's going on here. Because the refs went over to
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talk to tact talk, it didn't seem too thrilled, so
it might actually be a major penalty.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Hope not again them are you still trying to control
this game with twelve minutes left? Because it's too late?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Pal, Yeah, Takett is not thrilled, so that does not
look too promising on that. Yep, they get well, they
gave fightings, so that was gonna happen, and all right,
all right it looks like that. Just yeah, okay, all right,
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all right, all right, all right, it's worried there. For
a sec after Takott was disagreeing. I was worried there
that they might do the major penalty there for a sec.
They did not. They did not.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Tacket's still barking.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
He's doing he's not happy with something. Meanwhile, me, metal mic,
what's up? Bro Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Maybe he's like, why didn't Goodess get the instigator there?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Like my maybe maybe yeah, you might be honest something there, Robbie.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
But yeah, I mean to me, this this game is
it's just been high energy throughout the entire way.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
And like I said, with the Flyers especially.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It's sparky bark he's hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
This is just getting ugly at this point.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
This is getting real ugly. Now, what the hell happened there?
He's bleeding? He's bleeding?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, oh, not to do he knock a tooth? Or
do you get him in the gums? He definitely got
him in the mouth.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think he got in the gums. Yep, truba elbow
see right here? Clap, Oh, yeah, you're.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Doing what he does best getting out of here.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Four arms shot right to the face. You're just asking
to go to the box.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
If you're doing that, the heck is happening tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
The Ducks just said, hey, you know what, we're in Philly.
Let's just go ahead and let's just start fighting every
five seconds here.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
All right, deserve to lose this game.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, that was a cheap shot on Truba's part on
a now here's the problem with Truba. Yeah, I agree,
so you that was intent. Now here's the thing about that.
Truba has no light to stand on if he tries
to defend himself by saying, oh, well, think about the
hit that Hathaway plays like, No, what Hathaway did was
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solid hockey. What you did was a cheap shot. There's
a difference between the two.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Again, like I said earlier, in case, you're destroying us
right right there, both players backs are to the referee
there and the linesman boom. That's what you think you
can get away with the hint. But he got caught right,
dirty scumbag ranger move.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, And you guys know I don't like Truba. I
was not a fan of the trade. I was pretty
happy with how he.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Was playing this year, because he is for the most part,
been keeping his elbow down and he's not getting himself
in trouble. Now, I get to an extent, I understand
why you're going after Barkie because you know.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
You had Hathaway go after Ian Moore. Yeah, you're I'm
gonna take a shot at the rookie. But that was
not the way to do.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
It, right if he had just put a hit on him. Okay,
that's one thing. You know. It's like, all right, fine,
that was a hit, But that's right, Heather, Yeah, that
was That was a cheap shot by every stretch of
the imagination.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
And I like the intestinal fortitude the kid coming right
back out and play it on the power play one
line the ship right after the poll and talk having
the confidence to play the.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Kid there right right. The Flyers need to do better
with his own penetration on that one, because they turned
the puck right on over at the blue line.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I tell you, Barkie has been really good.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It's been did like what Risto was doing there is
walking it on in, not afraid to take that chance.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
This has been the the Achilles heel of this team
that's really holding them back at this point? Is the
power play?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
M agree, Yeah, it was just the problem is the
big issue, and this is what was happening with the
major They get the they don't get on those rebounds.
They're getting pushed out of right in front of the
goalie and it's stopping them from wait, another penalty on
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the docks. What just happened was that two man advantage?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So what's the call?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Was it too many men on the ice?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh ah, right there?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Okay, yeah, wait what hold on?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Huh okay, this swapped him out? Okayer's going in there
all right? Yeah, I mean you're gonna punish, punished properly.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Trying to let the stick and he just swung the miss.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Although with ri you can be you know, somewhat suspicious
on that. So you got three usual suspects all sitting
in the box right now for the Ducks. Yeah, it's
kind of funny. Actually, let's see here Mark saying possible
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frustration on the Ducks part after this bad stretch of
games they've had and.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Come into the building. They're doing your young stud every
time he touches the puck, like fuck these people, and
I and I hear you, I hear you, but I
don't know, you know, it's it's just you know, like
you said, I mean, and you have individual misgivings with players,
but in the end, they represent the team right with
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their actions on and off the ice. And that Johnson's
hit that was just terrible, absolutely terrible. Overall though, like
I said, with the with the with the power play,
this is an opportunity where they can at least start
to reverse the serious offers that they've had lately on
the power play. Not that this team has underperformed and
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and and and if you have you know, Jamie Drysdale
or Bobby break out for any length period of time.
Mitch cough out tonight after taking a shot off the
foot in the Edmonton game. Uh, there was some swelling
X ray. He gave it a go. It was a
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game time you know, you know, game time decision. But
ultimately he sat out tonight with you probably thought he
was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
And but the Flyers do excellent getting second and third
opportunities five on five. But to your Matt, Pat Maddie
before we're seeing it right before our eyes. Now it's
one and done on the power play, and that just
does not get it done. You need that second opportunity,
right chance.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, that two man advantage, the Flyers had one shot
on it. Yeah, it was very late two man advantage,
but you gotta at least put some fucking rubber down
there on dose stall a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, I mean, the second period was really good as
far as like shots going and the power play. Even
this advantage right here has been really good. Good zone time,
getting lots of shots in there. I mean, granted, not
too many high quality chances, but you're getting shots on,
shots in on. And I'll be honest with if Flyers
are getting a lot of bounces to go their way
tonight too, because this could be a very different game
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if twupucks didn't hit the post.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Unfortunately, the power play portion of that two man advantage
hasn't exactly been going too well. Flyers really struggling to
keep that puck in the duck zone there. They had
a really shitty turnover there that almost led to a breakaway.
Luckily a couple of people were paying attention to their
position so that didn't happen. But you know, it's kind
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of frustrating to watch this team get two man advantages
and they don't do fucking shit with it. I'm really
starting to get sick of this crap. You know, It's like,
how many more times are we gonna have to have
this problem? Because this game should be like five two,
six to two right now, and it's not. And that's
really pissing me off. It's like, how many more times
are you gonna fucking do this? Because there's still plenty
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of time left in this game. Anaheim scores at any
point after this, after this penalty is going to be
washed away. Then all the momentum goes right straight to
Anaheim and it's a four to three hockey game and
everything changes, yep.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
And this struggle a little bit. I'll say this goes
to show that this team doesn't have that bonafide goal scorer.
And I do believe minch Kava is gonna be that guy.
He's just having a rough second year.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
And it's understandable.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
You know, some players are going to have that rough
second year, but they don't have that bona fide thirty
forty goal scorer that's going to be that dangerous threat
on the power play. That have Zegres, which he's been
fantastic and I think he does have one tonight maybe
I know he definitely has. He has definitely has some two.
But I think I saw one of the power play.
I can't, I'm not, but they need a little bit
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more than that.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
They were the same shot. It was like I thought
it was a replay.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I was.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
I was just putting the last of my Christmas decorations
away and I was like, oh, what happened? I just
happened again. It was like Deja Ville all over again.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Good in a good way.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I do agree Mark next goal is a big one.
And then Prism saying someone needs to explain to me
how JT. Miller, Trochick, Nelson and Boldie made it over
robo on the US men's team for the Olympics. Mhm h.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I think that Canada is going to win that anyway.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
It's it comes down to what could the what what
players the coaches want? They're building the team, you know,
always an odd man out, always an odd man out.
But I mean that they've gotten good universal scoring on
this team, and that was indicative of a lot of
former great Flyers teams where they would have you know,
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five to six upwards, the seven guys all twenty plus
goal scorers and and that's what this team is building upon.
And and you saw that against a strong Edmonton team,
you know, putting up five goals. You know, like, so
we haven't seen it tonight, I'll agree with you, but
we have seen it of recent you know, especially coming
(39:32):
off a tough loss in Calgary. You're in the middle
of you know, a really long road trip, you know,
the Western Canada road trip New year you know, post
Christmas New Year's is never fun times. But the put
up five I mean, Edmonton Oilers have their their they're
defensive woes, but they dominated that game from start to finish.
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And you know, then you handle business to the game
before against the Canucks, putting up six goals, five goals
against the Canucks the week before, right, But then you
have the in between games right where they drop off
and they lose a rough game to the to the Sabers,
you know, only put three up goals up the one
goal game against the Crack and actually is the one
(40:13):
I was thinking of. Right, So maybe with a third
year Mitchikoff, a second year Barkie who has had his
beat strongly dipped in the NHL pool this year, and
then Alex bump right behind him all of a sudden.
Now you're talking about a team that's putting up four
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or five every.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Night, right right, Chris saying it's strategy. We all know
the most dangerous lead in hockey is the three goal lead.
Got to avoid that. But no, I mean the one
negative thing that I will say that you know, they
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they do need to get that production goal. I mean,
it's gonna be the killer, you know, in the long run,
And I get it right now, it's still early on
in terms of them being more competitive. If they can
stay consistently competitive, that's what we want. I mean, that
tells you how early we are in this stage, because
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consistently competitive from year to year is something we haven't
had in a long time. But one of the major
key assets to that being successful is having a power
play that will strike and will make the difference in
this In a game like this, or in any game,
you know, punish, punish those teams that are terrible at discipline,
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Punish them you have to. You have to bury their
ass or other words, they could come back on you,
and then you're gonna sit back wondering how do we
lose a winnable games like because you don't take advantage
of your opportunities. You failed at doing that. That's the
one thing the Flyers really need to work gone more
so than anything else. Right now. They have the heart,
(42:03):
they have the grit, they have the determination, they have
the testigular fortitude. But at the end of the day,
they need to pick it up and they need to
really get those special teams rolling. Not just a penalty
kill power players got to do it too. They got
to pull their fair share of the weight.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
It's going to come in time, and I think there's
there's definitely guys on this on this team that are
gonna help with that. You know, you have your Bobby Brinks,
You're Tyson Forsters. Jamie dry Sale is gonna be one
of those guys that's gonna help. Mitchikalv Bump when he
comes up.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Bark is looking like he could be one of those
guys that can definitely help.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
The weapons are there, it just needs a little time
just to develop a little bit more. I think this team,
to Swoopy's point, I yeah, I mean as much as
they're competing right now, they're still rebuilding in that same breath,
but I mean they're they're they want to go. But
again to both of your points, this is this is
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the one aspect to.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Me is is is lack as well.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
And they they got their backup goalie situation too, so
that'll that that'll definitely help. There's definitely been some winnable
games that they've lost because Arisonson's inconsistency this year.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah, that's been a rough one. It's a shame too
because he actually got a cool mask for the first
time in a while. But you know, it is what
it is.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
They've been fortunate to earn that point. A lot of
those have been in overtime or the shootout. But still
it's like you can almost bank on Arison giving up
three or four goals. You know, he was the torts
guy and and and it's time to say bye bye. Honestly,
I've been a defender of Arison by you know, and
and he has been uh, you know, given a couple
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you know, opportunity and passed for the Four Nations with
the Swedish hockey team. By that was probably more out
of default than anything, because at this point I'd rather
have Coles fault back backing up at this point. And
the good thing is though, is that you got out
of love with you see him from Carson beyond. Since
so far this year, boys, I believe I see a
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nine to one to three save percentage and a mid
two goals against. I mean, DHL, maybe your numbers could
be a little inflated. It'll go up a little tick
when he goes up to the NHL. But I'm liking
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, he's the guy I wouldn't rush right now. Kolosov Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I think you you hold on the arison as long
as you can, and then one of two things winds
up happening. He either you try and send him down
and hope he passes through waivers, or you hold off
until the trade deadline and then you just try and
trade him there, and then at that point you bring
Kolosov up and you rock with Colo sav and void
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or for the remainder of the season and through the playoffs,
should they get there. I think that's probably the ladder
is going to be the more likely situation, and then
you just take whatever you can get for him our
faith the end of the year anyway, So worst thing
you can do is not tender or qualifying offer to
him and just.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Let him walk, but I'd rather I'm always the type
try and get something for try and get something for.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Something instead of just letting them walk and have them
get nothing right.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Right, So we've got four minutes left in the game
right now, the Flyers are still up four to two,
and it's been a wild one to say the least.
Here between the Ducks and the Flyers been chippy as hell,
starting off with the hit that hit on Bobby Brink
and then it escalated from there and yeah, I've seen
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the replay of that hit. Anyway, I just realized, you
know what, I don't know why the hell they gave
Kates an instigator penalty anyway?
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah, I don't get that at all, because essentially Goudas
did the exact same thing. So it's like, what the
fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Yeah, why didn't you get that Hattle bit? Why I
talk it was hot because because because it's like what,
players can't stand up, stand up for each other, then
why do you even have fighting still left in the game.
That's the whole point. I was explaining that to my
fiance the other day. She's like, wait, they're allowed to
fight and they don't get thrown out of the game.
I'm like, yeah, they only get five minutes, right, And
she's like, why do they let that happen. I'm like,
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because if you didn't have fighting, people would take liberties
with their checks because there'd be no consequences, right. You
gotta let the players police themselves. And if you're gonna
give an instigator there, Okay, it was so clear that
the guy didn't want to fight, but it wasn't like
you threw a couple of punches. Did you give two
two and two for fighting? I mean for running right right,
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and you call it a day. If you don't call it,
you know, a penalty on the original infraction. What up? Greg?
Speaker 3 (46:47):
What up?
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Greg?
Speaker 3 (46:49):
You man?
Speaker 4 (46:49):
Greg always supporting every show here, you know, man, die hard,
die hard at I know we appreciate you. I mean,
I like, every time I'm sharing stuff for the show,
breaks on it before I am. But it's your show,
so I mean, you know you kind of have.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
To be.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
No.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
The one uh, the one thing too is as well.
Not only is it one of those things of oh yeah, well,
you know Kate's is standing up for his player, but
it's also on top of it, Oh, we got a
penalty coming up, and it is surprisingly Holy shit, we've
got ourselves quite a We got ourselves a big old
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tussle going on right now.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Judish is dak Ah.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
That explains why Hathaway was ready to fucking take Gotier
down to the fucking ice. Well, grim Bancon is up,
so that's good news. Yeah. So, Brian, let me ask
you a question. When did your ducks all of a
sudden become assholes? Can you explain that one to me?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I think Mark hit then hit the nail. I think
it's just this is all frustration. We'll see what exactly happened. Okay, body, body, Okay, okay,
heed Kates.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Oh he got Kates?
Speaker 5 (48:16):
That was it?
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Yep, there it is.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Yeah, he just fucking took him down gladiator style.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Okay, punched him in the head. I didn't like that.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yeah, this is like slapshot.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, it literally is less blood.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
But you know, oh he dropped the elbow and even
punch them.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
God damn, what is this? W w all of a
sudden like holy ship like that actually reminds me of
when Goodess was playing for the Flyers.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
You know, but Flyers were dished out hits though too
that was seeing it on the replay though. That was
just two teams just fucking each other up, like really,
like you know, like you know what, you just hope
nobody gets hurt in games like this, that's what you
just knowe for. And so far we've and some injuries
on our side, Yeah, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, I don't think i've seen Ian Moore since he
got hit either.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
But I mean it's a big part of it. If
it's been a rough stretch, you know, and and it's
that you're just this is the melting pot right now,
and they're just melting down, right, I mean, like you know,
maybe you could comment like this is irregular.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, I would say so for sure, because usually they're
a little bit more composed. They've taken a ton of
penalties tonight. Some of them have been unnecessary. There are
a couple that were just kind of like eh. But
the thing that that I think is the biggest thing
to take away from this game is it is.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
To your to use your phrase.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Again, Robbie, like I did last week, this is a
melting pot, Like this is just an absolute this is
and this is on both sides. It's just everybody's taking
liberties on each other, and any time there's there's an
opportunity to take a shot at somebody, somebody's taken it,
and it just seems unheard of for an East and
a West team to do this.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Usually it's inner division.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
Usually. I did not really like the way that that
whole stretch there ended. There was a couple of times
Flowers probably should have shot that buck. U can we
gain the zone and get that puck down on do Stall?
He hasn't really had to do much in this power play.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
Yeah, melting pot, boiling point, all different ways to say
the same thing. Maam right.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
No, absolutely, And my buddy just actually texted me and
he's saying the same thing that you guys are.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
He's like, your team is on another one tonight, Like.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
There are two there are two six and two coming
into this game tonight, and they're about to be two
seven and two in their last twelve or in their
last eleven. This, I mean, their offense isn't there, defense
has been pissed poor, and those Stall and Marazak just
have not looked the same since the Christmas break. There's
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definitely frustrations here, and again not to sound like a
broken record, emotions are high to night for both teams involved,
because again you got Zigres and Drysdale versus Goachier, Paling
and Dudas and some I'm sure there's other guys that
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I'm forgetting, but like, this is a highly emotional rivalry now, right,
and when you're in this atmosphere, it's tough to sometimes
keep your emotions in check.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
Right, he comes out, he scores the first goal. You know,
he's barking, he's talking shit, he's acting like a shit,
don't stink. You know, this is like like I'm having
flashbacks of Sydney Crosby. So you need somebody to take
a couple of chips out of his teeth now, Darien Hatcher.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I think it's it's not necessarily all just Cutter. I
think it's Zigres too. You know, you have Cotter hitting
at first goal, which lights the fire, and then Zigres
back and get being as emotional as he is.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
First game back against this whole love he's he's fun. Yeah,
he was fired up too. I mean you saw that
after that first goal and celebration an absolutely good point. Yeah,
I'm looking at it with a fan with fan goggles
right now, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
So We've got an empty net looming here for the Flyers,
and hopefully they can get the puck over to Zegres
so he can get himself a hat trick. That'd be nice. Well,
he may play for it, but that's going wide.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Oh I wouldn't tried to let that go.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Oh nope, not Ze. That is going to be a
goal for Is that grabankin? Ye? Yes?
Speaker 4 (52:51):
Good for banking, Yeah, working hard, playing tough minutes when
when called upon.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
He's had a fantastic game.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
He had a ton of scoring chances tonight that he
just didn't go his way.
Speaker 4 (53:04):
Yeah, and he had, and he had to take on
new assignments and responsibilities after you lost break too, and
there juggling lines and I saw him playing up. You know,
let me see what his minutes are on tonight.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
It's been uh, it's it's been a good effort from
the Flyers tonight.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
And it was it was definitely it is definitely a
hard fought win for them tonight.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
It was it was they've probably rolled it. Oh my god,
two flyers even just started checking each other. That's how
intense this game's been. We're even checking ourselves. This is uh,
this is one of those things where you had to
be thinking like, man are the They had to be
thinking like all the ducks are coming in tonight, so
it shouldn't be too intense. Boy, were if anyone said
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that they were fucking wrong?
Speaker 4 (53:53):
Ziegris twenty two fifty one. Who damn bart he up
to fifteen minutes? Rebecani as much ten minutes thirty second,
you know, like like maybe maybe I'm bumping a little
bit from from fourth to live minutes, but not much.
But it seemed like he was very noticeable for those
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ten and a half minutes.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
I think so too.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
Was the Ax at twenty three to fifty one as well.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
How many places did he have tonight? Do you have two?
Speaker 4 (54:25):
You had too?
Speaker 3 (54:27):
No?
Speaker 4 (54:27):
No, yeah, no just once one?
Speaker 1 (54:28):
It says, oh, you just said the one.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
How much time is he said the second?
Speaker 3 (54:32):
How much time is Hathaway played? Because I feel like
he's been out a shit ton too.
Speaker 4 (54:38):
Hathaway No. Eight fifty five. But again noticeable because he's
just playing fired up and like hitting every like he
doesn't want to leave the lineup again. And and and
that's what you want to that's the culture that you're
building here, and that's what's beautiful to see that we
haven't seen here in a little while in Philadelphia. And
and then this just wasn't overnight. We've seen this over
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the past year too.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Yeah, for sure, I'll tell you that Hathaway is another.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
One who tonight has had a bunch of chances as
far as scoring opportunities go, he too. He probably should
have scored on one, went off of the stalls, shoulder
up and into the into the netting.
Speaker 4 (55:16):
I believe it was yeah, looking up on that one.
For sure.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Here we go, man, here we go. All bets are
off now now that the game is over.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Kroda just wanted to hug Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yeah, he just wanted to get a hugged from sealer.
That's what it was.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
Oh, they didn't like that shot at the end, that's
what it wanted. Fuck your mother.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Uh. And the underlying storyline ed Snyder appreciation night.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
Yeah, this game. You would have loved this game.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
That's what it is. That's what it is that Snyder said, Hey,
we need to have a little rough one here, you know,
in honor.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
If y'all watched us all night and saw me give
a little salute to the camera, that was for That
was for a Snyder.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
Yep, rest of the peace, yeah yeap, the founder of
the Philadelphia Flyers, and win now for the Flyers here,
big night to night Triver zegris Ze getting himself two goals,
attempted to try to get the hat trick. He flung
a puck down at the empty net, but it was
going well wide. But in the end it does not matter.
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The game is a win for the Flyers, a big
one for them as they continue to rebound from tough
losses that they've taken, and in this case, they rebound
from a bad game they had out in Calgary. I
don't know why the Flames have the Flyers number this year.
Thank god we don't have to face them again. But
either way, though, they did well against Edmonton and then
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they played well here against the Ducks to get the win.
And yeah, Flyers are continuing, they're winning ways. So gentlemen,
after this win tonight, I think we can also say
too that the Flyers are not afraid if they have
to handle themselves, they'll handle themselves at the end of
the day. So I think we can also say that too.
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Because this was a nasty little affair here between the
Ducks and the Flyers.
Speaker 4 (57:23):
They've gotten more toughness, more snarl. They've been pushed around
as a small team here, like you know, like leading
up to the beginning of the Towards era, and they've
changed that around. You know that you can't push around
these fires.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
Yeah, and York just handed his stick off to somebody
in the crowd. Good game for him tonight, had a
nice shot that was tipped in. And of course the
first star is Zigris. I mean that's a no brainer.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yeah, that's yeah, no doubt, by far, the best guy
on the ice all night long.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
And he was definitely fueled by emotion.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
Absolutely And did you love what he said between the
intermissions when he said, like, oh, it's it's nothing like
it in the world, playing in Philadelphia and also goes
on to say the booze are great, the cheers are better.
It's like, I you know what, that's just like, you
know what, how do you not love Zee? Hey? You
have to love Zee for that? Like he he is
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absolutely so invigorated to be a Flyer.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
Yeah, he's found a home here in Philly for sure.
He played agent for de Borak they were talking about.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Which, oddly enough, I did not know have a good night, Heather.
I did not know that there needed to be a
witness for the contract signing.
Speaker 3 (58:51):
Apparently apparently. Well either way, though, you guts to be
the I just like you're looking at the post interview
right now, look at the smile on this guy's face,
like it's just like he is just he was meant
to be a Flyer. That's what it was. He was
just meant to be a Flyer this whole time.
Speaker 4 (59:13):
Why I keep on getting the notifications like most of
you out there, you know, with the you know, postgame
handing off Bernie's mask and seeing those locker room little
like sights into the locker room. And this is one
of the best locker rooms I've ever seen from any
one of the teams that I followed, not just the Flyers,
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any team that I followed. And a huge, a huge
part of that is what was already here, what they
were building, but a lot of it is the influx
of the new and Zegres being front and center there.
So he's definitely been great for Philadelphia. He's been great
for this locker room. He's the next target for Danny
being Keith Jones checkbook.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Absolutely as he should be, as he should be.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
He's he just fits in a locker room, you know
what I mean, Like he brings that personality.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
He fits obviously, he's got two of his friends.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Here and we've we I feel like we talk about
this week the week, you know what I mean, Jamie Cam.
You know, there's there's a ton of ton of people
who you know are like to your point, Robbie, are
our core pieces of this this culture in this locker room.
And you're bringing a guy like Zigres and he has
a year that he's having.
Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
He has a smile on his face that he has.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
He's bringing out like the better personalities of some of
the other players in the locker room. That's the guy
you have to ink long term, and he's bringing out
the best of a guy who's twenty nine. He hasn't
really should much being much more than a third line
player for a lot of teams, fourth line player in Devorak,
and he's having he's having a fantastic year because of it.
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You know, I feel like Devorak is feeding off of Zegris,
and vigorous Zegres is feeding off.
Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Of Devorak, and that's that's great. That's something you don't
want to break up. That's chemistry there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
So you know, uh, I do believe and I've heard
this from a few people that the interest is there
between both both parties. Flyers wanted me and he wants
to stay here. From from what I've been hearing, and
the last person I heard this from was Anthony san Felipo,
was that they're waiting until the end of the season
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to get the contract done.
Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Yeah, I could see it. So it's not a distraction there.
There there's two there's two strategies here where you wanted
to Christian earlier than later, where the aav and the
price can be lower. You know, for the team, you
want to get it done sooner than later, so you
offer him the security of a five year deal. He
even's pen the paper now.
Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
With Zegres, it's the other way around. You want to
keep him free and clear because you know, hey, let's
face facts. You know, if we're going to praise the man,
we got to talk about how sometimes he can mentally
check out right, and and and when you're in negotiations
where where you're being like you know where and they
can tough right in terms of what you're worth. You know,
both plus and minuses. You don't want to bring that
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on the ice. You have to take care of that
during the off season. With the type of you, you
gotta know the athlete that you're signing. Right in regard
to Devorak, who signed you know, like I said, his
extension at five years, twenty five point seventy five million, right.
I think what we saw here with Devorak was him
playing in the wrong system for a few years in
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Montreal because he showed a lot of promise out there
in the desert as a coyo. And we're seeing that again.
And the one commonality between the two stops has been
Rick Tocket. Rick Cockett, I believe has revitalized Devorak. Their
familiarity with each other has big paramount so far, and
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Debo has become a jack of all trades.
Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Yeah, I was hoping you were gonna say, because I
had a lock to loaded just in case you didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
About Tocket.
Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Yeah, everybody knows this. I'm pointing out what we all know.
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Right right up. Swoopy's asking when do the Flyers and
the Ducks play out West March eighteenth is when they
will be heading out to Anaheim for that game. So
but I want to circle that date on your calendar, everybody,
because after how chippy this game was in Philly, might
be a little chippy out there on the West coast
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when they go out to the to the Honda Center.
Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Maybe not seats I need to get picked up.
Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Or or the Arrowhead Pond, whatever the fuck you want
to call that place.
Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
You know, I don't like to fill that place at
that Often. They're very they're very.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
What's the word they're they're very frugal out there, and
it's super expensive to go to games out there.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
John Coyle, what's up, my brother. I haven't seen you
in the chat in a long time, my man.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Yeah, he's saying, what's up? Boys. I disagree with the poll.
I think it might be a high of a number.
But anytime you can get a locker room guy like
him who does have some upside to being a mid
sixth center, I'm all.
Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
In right right and he's playing Top Live minutes right
now and doing it like a champion. This could be
a spike in the production, sure, but I really believe
that that, like you know, like like like, like I said,
I'm stating what we all know. But Devorak could have
been the victim of a poor system in between, and
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that's what lowered our expectations. That's what got him in
the door here for so cheap in a one year deal.
But John I said earlier in the show that Dvorak
took that one year deal bet on himself and it's
paid off. And I think it's it's it's a deal
that if they need to move him in year four,
year five of that deal, who's not going to take
a quality center iceman who Rick quote unquote said our
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gold in this league that's still on the plus side
of thirty five at only five million year, So it
works out out for both team and player. Ye see
how he's got that security because he's going to be
paid for five years no matter what jersey he's warning exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
And then the other.
Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Could be a flyers, you know, maybe like you like
to your point before, Brian, it could be applied for
all that five.
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Year Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
And the other thing to keep in mind too, John,
is the cap goes up next year, and it goes
up even more of the year after that, so you're
really you're really looking at, you know, paying this guy
peanuts at that point because you're getting in on the
ground floor of this and and once it goes up
even more, that has to you know that that number
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could increase by that point. So on the other hand,
he's taking even less money than he's making this year,
which I think is like five point two or five.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Point three or something along those lines.
Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
So now he's making even less money, and you can
put a big price tag and give that big check
to Trevor Siegris on that seven year contract he's about
to get.
Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
And let's see here, we've got Chris saying, don't overlook
this aspect beyond Rick, this is by far the most
talented group of wingers Devorak has ever gotten to play with.
That's true, and Greg's saying, let's fucking go. He also says,
love that we finally have a team that can match
the energy of the fans. And boy did they do
that tonight. That was fun watch and we're damn good.
Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
I mean, the one thing we'll never I will never
take away from this team this year is how good
that they have been, you know, despite the you know,
the fun rivalry that we have together between you know,
me being a Ducks fan and you guys being flyers.
Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Fans.
Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
It's it's so much more than that with this team,
because they have the high energy, they're playing with resilience.
Ladar's betting on himself as well, so he's playing out
of his mind. Once they figure out the backup situation
and they can get that power play really rolling, then
this Flyers team is really going to find their way.
And regardless of even if they do that this year,
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I still think this team is playing well enough five.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
On five to be a playoff team.
Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
They're figuring out ways to win these games even when
they fall behind, and that to me is you know,
that says a lot about the team.
Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
They're not They're not.
Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
An okay team, They're not an average team. They are
a good team. And once they figure out those there's
a couple of holes in there in their in their
their their team right now, they're gonna go from good
to great and then that that's just it's it's a
matter of when.
Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
So yeah, I am right now. When it comes to
the way that the Flyers have been playing, you know,
on top of just not backing down, they absolutely pull
forth the effort and put it out there every single
night to make sure that you know, they leave it
out there in the rink, and that's what you want
to see. You want to see the team just leave
it out there. So that way, when you walk away
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from this, you know they put everything they had into it.
Does that mean they're gonna get to win every night? No,
but you know they they bust their ass. At least
you know that. And Tommy's saying, let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
And so yeah, and it's so much more fun for me.
Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
This is this is a good This is good. I
like it. I like it. This is awesome. It's nice
to see that the Flyers can can get that win.
And Tom's saying, this team is so much fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
It is.
Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
It's the one thing that I've really I think we've
all picked up on. This is a team that is
feeling revitalized and is actually worth sitting down and watching.
And I'm not saying that you don't want to watch
a team when they're building something, but you know, when
you're seeing the dividends starting to pay off and you're
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seeing the hard work and the dedication finally starting to
bear some fruit. No matter what, you're starting to see it.
If not on the scoreboard, you're seeing it in terms
of the effort. And that's the thing that sticks, I
think very much with everybody. So you see it, you
see it, you feel it. The energy is there, I
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mean even live, the energy is there, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
And now you're getting the results too. You're talking. This
team is now back into the top six in terms
of point percentage in the league. Oppressive staying up in
terms of what four points back from the cream of
the crop and the top of the Eastern Conference. So
let's go, boys, say you know we've seen the effort.
If you've watched the games through this rebuild and you're
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stuck with it, oh glad that you know. I'm glad
you're still here with us. If you're just here, you're
welcome to I've changed the leap. I used to say
you weren't welcome. Now you're welcome again. Everybody's welcome on
the flyer train now. But what we're seeing here is
that they're putting out the effort and getting the results
and the finish and and and that's just going to
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keep on proving. To what point you made before, Brian
about the you know what the step that Mitch copp
will take in terms of being this team's proven goal
scoring leader and and uh and the young wingers of
Bump and Barkie coming up and now you have Devora
can tell here. I had a lot of awesome comments
earlier today in regard to his shiny new contract.
Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Yeah, let's bring that up actually while we uh, while
we aren't talking about it, uh boo, and let's.
Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Perfect congrat on the new deal.
Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
And also what me Philadelphia place? You wanted to stay
long term?
Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:10:40):
Well, I just love my time being here. First off
on you know, it's a's a great group of guys.
We have a lot of fun and and it's a
it's been a good fit for me and uh yeah,
just like we're the team's headed. You know, we've been
playing some good hockey this year and I think we're
just had it in a good direction here And and
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then that's really important to me.
Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
How much was maybe the topic being here?
Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
I know you came in.
Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Because I think you kind of came because it was here,
But obviously there's a strong comfort level. How much with
him being here to that kind of way you're wanted
to stay a long term? Yeah, that helps for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:11:21):
You know, that's that's definitely a reason why I signed
here in the past summer and it was comfortable with
you know, playing with him from before, so so that helps.
And and yeah, I think it's you know, it's gone
well so far this year. You know, he's giving me
a good opportunity, and uh, you know I've tried, I've
tried to make the.
Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Most of it.
Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
So uh you know, yeah, he was he was a
part of it, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
How much how.
Speaker 7 (01:11:47):
Would you describe I guess the process throughout the negotiation process,
and what was most important to you was that five
year term. Maybe obviously the money is some money, but
there was a five year term particularly important to you too.
Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Yeah it was important. Yeah, I think, uh yeah, I
mean we weren't. It was pretty pretty smooth process, I
would say. Overall came together somewhat quickly, I would say.
And yeah, I think the term was a you know,
one of the one of the main main things I
was looking for. So you know, we're really happy to
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you know, work something out, and uh, you know, I'm
just you know, very excited and happy it got done.
Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
You're able to play with a lot of line now
with zeevers TK.
Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
It's maybe a little bit different than a role than
you've had in the past.
Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
When you look at that and you see that you're
getting the kind of production thing you're getting, you look
and say, I'm turning thirty soon. But yet there's still
a little bit more than I have in my game
that I can I can be that kind of player
going forward, maybe from versus what I have been.
Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
In the past.
Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
Yeah, I think so, you know, I believe that I had,
you know, more in my game offensively, and that's kind
of why I took the one year deal this summer. I,
you know, kind of better myself, and uh I thought
I had a good opportunity here and you know, you know,
playing with you know, the linemates, linemates that I've played
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with this year. I mean, it's it's been a lot
of fun. And then they're very easy players to play with,
and uh I got to thank them too. They've they've
been great for me and have helped me out of Ton.
Speaker 8 (01:13:26):
You're surprised and how how well and how quickly you
fit in here. I mean, obviously, you sign a one
year deal, you don't know how that's how that's that's
going to play out. And then you know it's what
five days after you were able to sign and your
you're immediately reapping. I guess you're surprised at how well
this is gone.
Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
I don't know if i'd say surprise, but I mean,
you always you always want to believe and trust that
things are things are going to work out, and you know,
that's kind of why I made the decision to come here.
I thought it was it was a good fit for me,
and so I thought the possibility was there. And yeah,
I kind of kind of kind of asked for more
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of how it's gone so far. Like I said, you know,
playing with the guys that played with the opportunity that
I've had, and I know I just had to, you know,
try to seize that opportunity and you know, and work
hard and good things will happen.
Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
Was the reaction from teammates this morning when you walk.
Speaker 8 (01:14:20):
In the room.
Speaker 6 (01:14:21):
Yeah, they're they're they're having a good good time, you know.
Uh yeah, it's a great group of guys. Got a
lot of texts, you know, last night from them and
uh yeah, like I said, it's you know, it's a
fun group to be a part of. But you know,
it's a tight group and they were just really excited
for the future, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
So a lot of good stuff said there by Devorak.
I definitely think that after hearing those words, I think
the motivation very much of him resigning here he loves
playing with the guys he plays with. That's clearly the
main thing that made him want to stay. Yeah. I mean,
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he could have been having the season he's having now,
but it could have been where Okay, he's doing. He's
carrying the load himself, and he might not have considered staying.
But when it comes to playing with the guys he
plays with, I think that's what really sent it to
him wanting to be here in Philly.
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
No, for sure, and I think he made a lot
of good points.
Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
But the one thing I'm gonna say, I don't know
if any of you guys have been watching or paying
attention to the World Junior Championships over there. Over the
holiday break, there was a comment made by Zane Paraka
from the Calgary Flame saying that these players in the.
Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
NHL are like robots.
Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
There's no personality to these guys just and I'm not
saying this, I'm not making that crack at a Christian
dev Worrek, but I.
Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Mean I kind of am. If you listen to the
way just the way he talks.
Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
You know, he's so monotone, and this is kind of
how there's like no excitement in his voice.
Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
He brought up a great point, they're like robots, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
No, but I love I love what Christian has done
in the short term with his organization. And he definitely
earned his contract for sure, and I do like that.
You know, he put the bet on himself and it's
paying off. And you know, like Priz said, you know,
the quality of Wingers that's surrounding him right now is.
Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Being his benefit.
Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
I will say this, I do not care if he
doesn't have a personality. I don't give a shit. It's
like you know what, de work. You could be human
drywall for all I care. As long as you're productive
for this team, I don't give a fuck. Zegers can
have all the personality. You know, he fits in.
Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
It's the important part, regardless of how he talks. Fits
in with the organization.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
So that's important, right because we don't need a personality.
As long as you're able to put the puck in
the back of the ned. That's all the personality I
need from you.
Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
What you got to pay attention is when he breaks
the monotone, because that's what he really feels more. And
he did it twice if you notice during that Once
was when he talked about betting on himself because he
felt the payoff literally right, and two was when he goes,
I wouldn't say surprised, like like the reporter phrased this
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question like, you know, like, are you surprised that you're
basically doing what you're doing even though you're playing with
two excellent wingers with Trevor Zegres and Travis connectively, just
a paraphrase, and he's like, I wouldn't be surprised. When
you're a professional hockey player, you believe that you're the
best center iceman out there. You don't you don't think
you know, you're not playing the game being like, yeah,
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I'm rated seventy five on NHLPA. You know what You're like,
You're like, I'm you know, like that that's just the
edge that you need to play on. Right. So it's
like now he's getting the results because he's he said
Philly was the right fit for him, and it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Was speaking of the Devil and he shall appear. He's
currently on my TV.
Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Well, there you go. So uh so not only that too,
but it's like, I bet you the I bet you
the reporters just trying to say, like, oh, are you
surprised that you know, you know your game is all
of a sudden great again because you're playing with two
talented players. And then basically it is that he's like,
fuck you, dude, like I was gonna be good no
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matter who I was playing with, So shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
I love what he's done. I want him to flop
that hat around. I want to see what that looks
like from the front. But I I love what he's done.
You know, he's not just on the ice, but off
the ice.
Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
He's been such a good leader to have and you know,
I yeah, I mean, Priz, I'm I'm with you one
hundred percent. You know, this is this is a guy
who you know he's playing with. You know, he's playing
top six, He's playing with two of the best guys
in the organization, who are top twenty players in the NHL.
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It's a situation where he's comfortable, he knows tocket system.
Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
You know, it's a coach that he's comfortable with. Why
would you want to leave that right?
Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
So on that the Vorax extension, I think unless we
have anything to add, I think we could consider that
topic covered. All I gotta say is is that, you
know what, I'm happy that he's that he's happy, and
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I want him to continue to be productive for this team. Sure,
I have my misgivings about the length of his contract,
but you know what, I would love to be proven wrong.
I've been wrong before, I can be wrong again, and
I would like to be wrong this time. So hopefully
he can wind up making me a big, old fat
liar right here. That's all I want to hope for
on that side of it.
Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
And in a worst case, it's it's still like I said,
in two years, cap braises even higher. So to what
we were talking about earlier, I believe Robbie brought up
the point you can trade him to another rebuilding team
in two to three years because that contract is going
to be insanely movable. It's gonna be insanely cheap by
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that point. So you know, it's a good situation that
the Flyers have him. Man, so if he continues to
be productive, he stays. If he starts to struggle a
little bit, or they feel like he's not fitting the
system anymore. It's a contract that you know you can
move on, which I'm I need to.
Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Double check real quick.
Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
But I thought I read somewhere that there is a
no movement clause.
Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Yeah, I believe it's was it was it short term
or not short term? I'm so tired.
Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
Let me see, oh like in other words, like it
it's like maybe like like with ten teams, like not modified. Yeah,
I don't know if it's a full movement or not.
But there is no movement clause on it. And that's
fine though, because you give that to the players, so
that way not you know, this isn't the This isn't
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like say like the NBA or or or even Major
League Baseball where you'll actually get players like saying like
oh no, like nine times out of ten the hockey
player goes, yeah, sure, I'll go right. But but it's
just good to have a voice to have to say
that you're like you know what I mean, that we're
that and and and and that vote of confidence that
the team's going to take care of you, right that
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when it comes time to the movie, and we're gonna
put you in a good situations where maybe if you're
trying to get one more attempt at a cup. You're
going to get it, you know. If it's not with
us first, you know, go figure. Hopefully there's that.
Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
So he's got a full no no movement clause for
the first two year years, and then the third year
is a twenty team, so he needs to provide a
fifteen or thirteen twelve team trade list in the third year,
and then I think it's a five team in the
fourth year, and then he has no.
Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
No movement clause at all in his fifth year. So
he's he's stuck with us for two years for.
Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Sure, all right. Then John Ross saying Hi a two
D radio. Today is my special birthday. I'm thirty seven. Well,
happy birthday to you.
Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
John, Happy birthday John.
Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
So with that, now that we have that taken care of,
did we want to talk about before we sign this
off to the brink rumors?
Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
The only reason I brought that up was I actually
was just told this today that Danny Brierre has completely
shut down any rumors of him going to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
But yeah, I mean, I don't think that would be
a trade that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
And I think if the rumor was true and it
was Ryan Hartman coming back in return. I think that
would be a fullest trade, and I mean it would
have made absolutely zero sense.
Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Yeah, that wouldn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
I think it makes sense for Minnesota to try and
get Brink, but for the Flyers they have to hold them.
Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like for Ryan Hartman, It's
like Hartman was already in Philly for like a cup
of coffee, So it's like, well, why do we need
him again? I mean, if anything, I don't know if
his play would be better here, I think he was
okay over in Minnesota is one year still, Yeah, it
just doesn't seem like, doesn't seem like it would make
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much sense for the Flyers anyway. So I'm not so
sure about that one. That's like saying, hey, let's go
get Pittlick back and let's trade away Brink to do it.
It's like, why the fuck would you do that? Just
saying just saying doesn't make any sense to me anyway.
So uh, with that, I think, unless anyone has anything
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else to say, I think it's time to speak now
forever hold our peace on this one, right, gents.
Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Well, they'd be pointing out the obvious. We got to
get a health report on Bobby Brink before anything continues
in terms of you know, and and and please don't.
Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
I love Bobby Brink same he's he's growing on me
a lot in the last year or two. But I'm
with you, hopefully, And that's This is the last thing
I'm gonna say, just period. Is I hope Jamie and and.
Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Bobby don't miss a lot of time. Obviously, I hope
they don't.
Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
They're concussion free, but they won't know for sure for
a little bit. Sometimes they take a day or two
to really start showing the symptoms of it. But hopefully
they're back on the ice sooner than later, hopefully.
Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
So with that, you know, I think that'll do it
for this sedition of Flyers Talk A two D. Let
me just double check here and see what we've got
for next week. See if we have a game to
react to, and now we do not. The Flyers will
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be playing on Monday and Wednesday next week, so they'll
be taking on the Lightning on Monday and they'll be
taking on the Sabers on Wednesday, So we will be
in between that. Oh, it's a home and home between
the Lightning and the Flyers actually because they'll be playing
they'll be playing them Saturday, so not at the exact
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same normal version of home and home, but you know,
all the same. It'll be two times against the Lightning,
so hopefully time of play big because they got shut
out the last time they faced off with the Bolts,
so hopefully they can play up on these two.
Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
If we get some of these guy boys back in
the lineup for those two important games.
Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Absolutely absolutely, and uh yeah, I agree, don don It
has been a good hockey season so far.
Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
It started off okay, it's a little rough right now.
Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
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Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
Very mm hm m hmm