Hockey Talk by A2DRadio: Philadelphia Flyers Win Home Opener

The Philadelphia Flyers opened up the Home Portion of their schedule Monday Night. The Flyers were able to pull off the win by a final score of 5-2. The boys are gonna discuss the home opener, the result, and more in this episode. Also on tap the guys are gonna talk about how the Flyers have looked extremely early on in the season. The Flyers have only played 3 games thus far, but how have they looked so far? Don’t miss the conversation. Be sure to drop your comments in the chat and be a part of the show! Make sure you hit that like and subscribe wherever you watch or listen to Flyers Talk A2D!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up, everybody. It's Tuesday night. You know what it is.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Flyers Talk A two D t or Boys, Flyer Seasons,
Underway records one, one and one. How well are they playing?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
In your eyes?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're gonna talk about that. You got a nice little
pull question set up for you, guys. Good conversation. We're
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It's time to get into the conversation.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Let's get this going. It's time to drop the puck.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Let's go. Welcome Linda's Jumba to a brand new edition

(00:59):
of Flyers A two D I am Mattson Suiti, along
with the Dark Wing, Brian Daily Wake Up, Let's go,
and the Broken One Robovia.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Yeah, I've been up since six am. Let's go, grumpy
and hurting, fire up and talk some flyers.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let's go all.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
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I'm on that dock, and the pole question for today is,
despite not getting all the results, the Flyers are off
to a strong start three games into this season. Agree

(02:09):
or disagree.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
Obviously with the way that the Flyers have played these
last three games, I could definitely say that they've looked good,
even in a losing effort against Florida in Game one,
and yes, unfortunately a disappointing, heartbreaking loss to the Carolina Hurricanes,
which many have argued should have been a win because
of a disallowed goal. All the same though, at the

(02:34):
end of the day, after recovering from that, they come
back to their home opener, get the win against those
same Panthers and give them their first loss of the season. So, gentlemen,
after a one to one one start, Batten five hundred here,
How do you guys feel Do you agree that despite

(02:55):
not getting all the results, the Flyers are off to
a strong start in the first three games or do
you disagree? Do you feel like there could be some
improvements or maybe there needs to be an overall improvement.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
The floor is yours, gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
There's definitely room for improvement here.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
We're only three games into an eighty two game schedule,
so definitely room for improvement. But overall, I think this
team has played really well so far. I think they've
done a lot of the small things right. I think
defensively they could definitely.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Still use.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Some tweaking, especially trying to figure out some of these pairings.
But first game, couldn't really get the offense going. Second
game you kind of messed up the lines a little
bit and you got a little bit more offensive production,
which was good.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
The big thing that I like that they're.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Not doing is messing with the kids breaking Forester line.
In fact, they actually took that line and they moved
them up, so technically the second line now, so I
really like that you're still getting all kinds of productivity
from that line, whether it be scoring points or two
way two way play anything like that. All that stuff

(04:05):
has been really strong. There's definitely still a lot more
to be desired. Mitchkov has to get going. Ziegers has
to pot his first goal. But what a pass last night.
He's starting to look like he's playing with some swagger again.
But I mean, all in all, I'm really happy with
how this team's performing. I'm I'm hoping Erison in his
next start he bounces back and has a bit of

(04:27):
a better game than he did against Carolina. But I mean, yeah,
all things said and done, through three games, very very
happy with with the results so far. But like I said,
there's still definitely some room to improve. But I'll I'll
take one one and one through this first stretch here.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
How do you feel, Robbie.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
I hear what Brian's saying, but I disagree. I'm not
impressed at all, not all. I mean, I know there
was a big close in each game, right, but puck possession,
base offs have been serious weaknesses. They're giving up far
too many shots with roughly a forty five core SI percentage. No,

(05:15):
it's only three games in, but that's twenty fifth in
the NHL, and the face off wins need work. As
we predict as they build up the center ice position,
but they're under fifty percent forty nine to sixty four.
The defense has played better than expected despite the injuries,
clearing lanes well. So the goalie, whether it be Ladar
who's looked sharp at Arison so they could see the

(05:37):
many shots coming. But the Flyers they need to find
a way to control the puck better as they did
in the second half of the home opener, and that
pass from Zegris was sweetness.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Was very impressed with Coots, but.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Ray, when they build momentum in these games, then they
start taking dumb penalties, putting themselves. You know how many
power players if to have the other night five right,
So I think there's there's a lot there are. The
Flyers are working progress. I am thrilled that they're one
one and one in those three and it could have
been two and one with an ot winner. So there's

(06:15):
been bright spots. I don't want to be a negative Nancy.
There's been good offensive pressure. The four check has looked great.
I love the energy and the work ethic going on.
So as long as they stop being sloppy with the puck,
that time of possession should improve. Maddie and it's going
to because you're not gonna win many hockey games getting
out shot thirty five to twelve, which it seemed like

(06:38):
in all three games.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, yeah, that definitely is glaring. The shot totals have
been very much in favor of the opponents in all
three games. I mean technically the two opponents because we
faced to the same team twice. But at the same
going though, I definitely would say that is their room
for improvement. APPS. I think that there have been too

(07:02):
many opportunities going the other way. There's been really sloppy turnovers.
There's been too much. I understand that you want to
be a little loose, you don't want to be too
tight to wound up, but at the same time, you
also don't want to be so loose that you're just
making sloppy plays. And I feel like sometimes they're passing
way too much into coverage and into territory where it's

(07:26):
like sticks are in the way they're being checked. It's like,
I know, you don't have much time to make a decision,
but you have enough time to kind of take a
quick look and see what you got for options. You know,
you don't have to just make that snap play. If
you're really not feeling comfortable with it, take the chance

(07:48):
to say, hey, you know what, don't don't pass it,
don't just drop it back blind. Let's you know, instead
take it to the corner, put it go behind the net,
you know, take a minute to get things set up,
you know, don't just drop it off for someone to
pick it up. Because I feel like that's where we've
seen a lot of the mistakes incurring here offensively, which

(08:10):
then led to odd man rushes going back the other way,
especially the home opener. Bladar had to make several major
saves and that was very early in the first period
that he had to do that. Now, the Flyers, luckily
enough got a goal from Tyson Forrester to kind of
swing the momentum into the Flyer's favor there. But if

(08:31):
Forster doesn't get that goal and they keep making those
errors in the offensive zone, that game could have a
totally different context to it because Florida could have easily
scored first on multiple occasions. So there's a couple of things,
not just that, but there are a few things that
I've spotted where it's like you need to be a
little tighter with your passing and you also need to

(08:53):
be a little tighter on the defensive end too, So
there's a couple of things that I would like. But
what Dylan was saying, he was agreeing to the poll,
and he was saying, the Flyers have looked good three
games and Fladar looking good to start. I hope he
keeps he can keep it up, and Fladar has looked
good through his two games that he's played for so
far this season, so that's good news for them. What

(09:15):
did you guys think of Erson and his performance in Carolina?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
He made the stops that he needed to.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
I mean that was that was a situation where they
were just allowing far too many shots on hole and
it's just gonna be a law of averages. But I
mean he did he made stops that kept the Flyers
in the game. And I think I know what you're
talking about, Maddie. Not to just skim right over your point.

(09:43):
And we'll get back to Erison certainly and Brian's take
on it in just a second. But what you're talking
about could be wrapped up in that shorthanded goal that
they gave up before the end of the second period.
Perfect example of how it came about and and then
once the first attempt failed, a second and third opportunities

(10:05):
when you have a man advantage, right, the special teams
needs cleaning up now, hey, like you point out to
their credit, Coots comes in, makes a hell to play,
you know, stops a clearing attempt, and then the pot
get a puck lucket it finds its way to Forrester
or stick and what a gorgeous move. I mean Forrester
the future of this mother f in franchise with that

(10:28):
laser beam on the shorthand side. So I mean, like
I said, good things, but you gotta start. I mean it,
it's like, really, the work still has to be done
by Rick Tacket and Staff Bryant because there's a lot
of lucy goosey going on.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, for sure, there's definitely a lot of things that
need to tighten up. And Rick Tockett even said after
the game last night that one of the.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Things they have to tighten up is the penalty. They
have to play more discipline. Hockey can't win hockey games
giving up five five power playing opportunities tonight.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
So that's definitely been my biggest bugaboo about them early
on here, Some of the other things are just like small,
little technical things that they can work on.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
The biggest the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's kind of been rking me before I give my
take on Erson has just been the penalties. It's been
silly penalties. It's been things that are in their control.
Uh So, you know, they just have to play a
little bit smarter and you know, use some discipline and
you know, stay out of the box. You know, a
team like Florida is going to make you pay for that,

(11:31):
you know, And I think they did at least once.
And I know they had the short handed goal last
night as well. But as far as Erson goes, he's
been my concern. Most of the off season is going
to be weirdes he goes from here, a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Of hockey left to be played.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
So I'm going to say that my thing that I
want to see Erson work on is working on just
making making it safe. I don't care about the goals against.
Scoring is scoring is up in hockey. Everybody's goals against
is going to go up unless you're superstar, elite goaltender.
But somebody's sitting in like a Sam Marison and Dan Flodark.

(12:12):
If you're if you can get your safe percentage jump
into like nine oh five. I'll be very happy with that.
I don't the goals against again, I don't really look
at all too much anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's more it's a safe percentage. I thought he showed
some flashes against Carolina.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't think he was terrible, but I definitely think
he could have been better. I didn't get to see
a whole lot of the game. I was at my
brother's wedding on Saturday night, so I got to see
some some clips of it age.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
But well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
I think, yes, that's aye a thousand years of good
luck for sure.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Awesome, yeah, awesome.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
This is about nine hundred more than you really live.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
But hey, if you have that luck, you're you're going
a thousand years.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
But yeah, not totally disappointed in Erson, but you know,
I wasn't. You know, I didn't think you set the
world on fire. But just like everything else, you know,
there's work to be done.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Three games and they're.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Set what seventy eight nine seventy eight more to go,
so you know, we'll just see where game four goes
and and just hopefully they take this victory with Florida
and they carry it over into the next game and
you know, get some positive things going and giving themselves
something to build off of. So they got the first win.

(13:40):
Sometimes that's the hardest one, and they got it.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Within five games. So let's go and on the home opener,
on top of it, and on the home opener. Yeah,
essentially Bernie's night.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yeah, you had to you had to win that game
after that pregame ceremony for sure, And I'll be I'll
talk about that a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
But I in.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Regard to Aerison, I swear I'm not the president of
the Sam Arison fan Club, but there was an opportunity
and I remember particularly one, and this was a concern
about a nineteen year old playing at the NHL level
being defensively responsible and jet Lechenko he got beat like
a rented mule, giving Sam Anderson no chance.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
On one of those goals.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Otherwise, you know, three goals against Carolina Hurricanes. You know,
not a bad job, especially with what defense you got
in front of you.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
But it was the key.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Say, sometimes it's about not how many saves.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
You make, but when you make them. And I mean
Mark Andre Fleury made a career out of that.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
True good point.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
True, Uh PRIs, saying Zigris has a plus one and
a current career high with his limited face offset forty four,
which is all you can ask for for a steady improvement.
Koots looks rejuvenated, and that's something I wanted to talk about. Actually, yeah,
he does. Let's give it up for Coots on all
the game last night. It was his play. I think

(15:01):
him and Vladar won that game for the Flyers. Without
those two on the ice, I don't know if the
Flyers win that game. That was very impressive. Yes, Forster
had that amazing shot and I'm taken that away from
him at all. And Zegers had that nice play behind
the net. So he took a check and he still
managed to keep the puck and managed to get it

(15:21):
to Kots. Kots got the finish, Kots had the wins,
he got the assist. He did everything he was supposed
to do as a captain, and that right there is
the Coots We've been wonning for the last two seasons,
and that's been something we've been clamoring for from him.
If he can take that performance and stretch it through

(15:44):
the rest of the season, then we got nothing to
worry about with Kots wearing the sea. We got absolutely
nothing to worry about. That was a phenomenal performance from him.
So give it up for Coots.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
On that one.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
I would give him. If it wasn't for Vladar literally
feeling several goals away from the Panthers on multiple occasions,
I would argue and say Koots deserved the player of
the game for that particular evening, but Vladar had to
be because of just the fact that he had to
be on his head at the very start.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
And Valadar has a great record against the Florida Panthers.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
So getting these two wins and getting these two games
out of the way, hopefully we'll set up a little
bit of the tone for the goaltending for the Flyers
moving forward.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Hopefully he can he can take these two two.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Big games that he performed very well in and build
on that and keep moving forward. So that's gonna That's
an important thing early on here is building as much
not only chemistry, but building as much positive juju moving
forward so you can finally get get something good going

(16:57):
for this team and hopefully it reas off into sam
Rison too. So you know, for me going into the season,
it's goaltending has been the biggest is my my biggest
bugg a boo.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
But we'll see how things continue to go.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
So far, I'm not disappointed, like I said, could be better.
Definitely rooming for improvement, but not disappointed.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Mmm Spoopy saying Brink slipped amazing. Brink has looked really
good in these games, so get some credit.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yeah, all line picking up where you know, and Brian
said how they moved up and what have you. But
I don't want to skim over Coots either though, Maddie,
because yeah, he you know, I'm telling you, we're gonna
have to go back and find that clip of me
calling for play coming. I mean one game, you know,
three games in, you know, I don't want to jump

(17:49):
the horn. But that's just earmark that for the end
of the season because he's shown that he wants it.
And and it was a great It was an awesome
stat that they showed during the game on the home
opener that Coots becomes only the third Flyer to play
fourteen seasons for the organization, joining the lakes of Bobby
Clark and Claude Jeru. In case you guys missed that, uh,

(18:13):
you know, he celebrated in style, and it goes to
show what I mean talking about he's in a a
wonderful company, right.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I mean, I remember the day that he got drafted
because we got him at number eight, because we got
him on the Jeff Carter trade from Columbus, and the
guy who I forget which analyst it was, he said,
mark this down. People are gonna remember how did he
How he slipped to number eight and wound up in

(18:44):
Philadelphia because the Flyers were not picking in the first
round that year until they got that pick. So, and
you know what, I can honestly say, Coots has been overall,
he's been a great player for the Flyers. Yes, he
had had some stumbling blocks, but I think a lot
of that was due to injury. And that's been the

(19:05):
biggest problem with his career has been he just could
not stay healthy and that's been what's been holding him back.
But with his health now fully in place right at
this moment, hopefully it stays anyway. Point being is that
look at what he can do. Look at that That

(19:26):
game is a perfect example of this is what Koots
can do when he's healthy, he's motivated, and he's got
his skills going at full peak potential. This is what
he can do. That's why he was given the c
in the first place. And he was more than capable
of holding it. No one ever questioned he was capable
of holding it. The question was could he perform If

(19:48):
he can take that game and do what he did
last night, Yes, I don't think we can question it. Then.
I don't think so at all.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Hey, it's not just the health though, Maddie. He's playing
with an edge, he's playing with a chip on his shoulder.
He's playing like, yo, I ain't dead yet, right, Yeah,
I got something to offer improve And I'm telling you,
I mean, you know, if your captain plays with that

(20:20):
type of reck I don't want to say reckless, abandoned,
but with with that type of just all out a soul,
the rest of the team.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Is going to follow. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
And we're actually starting I think we're starting to see it.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
So, you know, like like Joe was saying in his comment,
you know, the boys are fun to watch again, and
you know, again we're only three games in, but yeah,
I just I like what I'm seeing. He's not being
held back. He's in a system that I think works
for him. I think Maddy hit the nail on the head.

(20:59):
You know, he's he's finally one hundred percent. He didn't
deal with any kind of injury issues last year.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I think we're gonna get the coops of old to
an extent.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I don't think we're getting the thirty goal scorer guy back,
but I think we're gonna get the defensively responsible You're
gonna get fifty points out of him total. I would
be very happy with fifteen goals from him, but more
so I want him to be the guy that you
can rely on defensively, because you know he's Sulky nominee.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
That's what I want from him.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
We know how good he is or how good he's
been in the past. I think having talk it on
the bench allowing these guys to be able to kind
of play their game to an extent, I think all
these guys are playing with a little bit more fire
under their ass.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
And I love it.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
I love it right and again, you know, there is
something to be said for what Coots can do defensively.
I mean, there's a reason why when the Flyers would
playing the Penguins, there's a reason why Coots was always
out there with Malkin and with Crosby because he could

(22:19):
shut them down and there were games he did. So
that's something to think about right there. Now, was it
always successful? Listen, you're dealing with Malkin and Crosby. They've
got God given talent. It's almost impossible to stop them
on any night. But for the most part, he was
able to handle that, right, right, So just think about

(22:44):
That's like, that's how reliable Coots is as a shutdown
player when it comes to his two way ability.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
When he was doing it is rookies and sophomore years too,
so we know how strong of a defensive center that
he is. He he passes his torch on to guys
like Zigris and and Kates who Kates is showing incredible
defensive responsibility early on here in his in his career too.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
So hopefully it continues to grow.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
And and the war I can can help these guys
take take their defensive game to another level too. You know,
I like what I've seen from him early on, even
though he stole a goal from someone I.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Don't No, I don't think so either.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
You kind of can tell by his demeanor at he's like, uh,
you gotta saying I'm going a but, but I I
think with the additions of these guys and Coots being
one hundred percent, I think this team forward and center position,
I think specifically can be a little bit more defensively

(23:52):
responsible with the leadership that they have on this on
this roster right now, and.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
I think that's going to be a huge step for
this team moving forward.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
And yeah, and Joe saying, how about the Zegras play
on the boards. You have talked about it earlier. That
was really nice. Ziegre's been steady.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Awesome vision right, and just awesome logic too.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
After a game he goes, well, I figure, if two
guys are coming at me, somebody's going to be open,
so let me throw it to a prime area. And
it was perfect for Coots the one time at their
gorgeous played, gorgeous foresight, really good indicative of what a
center iceman can do.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
But funny enough, I believe he did that.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
As a winger towards the game as they moved into
the wing. So to Prison's early point, all the good
work that he's been showing on the face off circle
still at forty four got to move to the wing.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Already.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
I know it was circumstantial within the game, befellas, I
mean fire said that they're going to give Zegras a
legit look at center ice and then right away moving it,
you know, like, I don't want to make blow it
two out of proportion.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
It was just an in game move, and hey, look
it worked out.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
It did. But I mean, look at it this way.
If Ziegras turns out to be versatile, where you can
have it, like, all right, we're gonna see if he
could do center, and if he winds up doing center
real well, okay, great, But if he can also do
the wing in a desperate situation, in a pinch, It's
like that just ups his value on the team because

(25:20):
it's just like, well, we're struggling here on this line.
We need somebody on the wing. We're gonna throw Zegras
in on the wing. If he could do that. I
don't think anyone's complaining to me. That just adds more
value to him onto this team.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Right, I'm gonna check something real quick. If I remember correctly,
I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I believe that goal came after a power play, so
the mey I still had the power play lines out
there already, so that's probably why Zegers is.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Probably off on the wing. So there's possibility. So I'm
checking that real quick.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
If that's the case, then that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
It was he was he was long in some wing minutes,
but I think in the context of that play, yeah,
it could have been.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Coming off the power play, but it was.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
I just I just know that there was a bunch
you know, right away you got you know, I don't
even want to mention names because I don't want to
give them credit, but you know the guys out on
Twitter that are in Negadelphia and.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Are right away. Oh, I thought you were going to
give Zegras a solid look on the on the center.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
And that's why I brought up the point, and it
is it's not totally unheard of point, but I set
him up so you fellas can spike him down. And
Maddie just made the gorgeous point of what's wrong with
a little flexibility? Why can't you play both right? But
the thing is, though, is that you got to keep

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the minute steady though at the center ice in order
for the whole the otherwise you just have a winger
playing out of position.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
But I would say, like to me, the only time
you'd really get squirreling like that if if there's a
line or there's a situation where it's like, okay, they
need a shot in the arms, something's not right, or
we really need someone to be on this line here
to get the offense going or to get something going.
If worse comes to worse than a pinch, you can

(27:19):
throw Zegris out there and just see what he can do.
It doesn't have to be the whole game. You could
still keep him where you have him. Yes, that might
put a little bit of more extra minutes on him,
but Zegris is a veteran player. I'm sure he can
handle it just fine. And if you do it one
shift or two shift, it's not going to kill him.

(27:39):
I would say, don't do it an entire game. Just
do it right, Mark, Yes, do it very sparingly when
you have the opportunity. It's like pinch hitting in baseball.
Just use it very sparingly. Don't use it when every
fucking time.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, so I did.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Look, so the goal came about thirty five ish seconds
after the Cem Bennett penalty happened. So the line that
was out there was a power play line. So it's
possible that Zegres is just playing the wing on the power.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Play, So it could be Yeah, so it could be that.
Jesse saying, unfortunately with Koots, his biggest knock at this
point in his career is his injury that has been
a problem for him in the past. Just saying, vladarsmon Steady,
you are correct, Chris saying Zegres is more of a
Patrick Kane type than a center in my opinion. Interesting.

(28:33):
I don't know, how do you feel about that, guys.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I think he's still really early to tell on who
Zegres is going to be more like because we haven't
we haven't really seen his full potential yet.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
It's always been an injury or something.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Patrick Kane has been one.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
You know, he doesn't miss a ton of time too.
You know, when you're playing with Jonathan Taves.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
It just you know, it makes the game look so easy.
And zeg Zegers can do that if he's got the
right guy with him. Uh.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
But you saw with with Sonny Milano a couple of
years ago. But it's just I don't know, I Zegres
is I don't I don't know if I would put
him and Patrick Kane in the same conversation. If I'm
going to be perfectly honest.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
I mean, if he turns into something like Patrick Kane,
even if he turns into like a diet version of
Patrick Kane, and it's like holy shit, you know, then
it's just like, I'll take the diet version absolutely. Its
just like even half of Patrick Kane's stats. Windy a
championship for good.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
It like Showtime versus Mattine.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yes, mattin a Zigris. There we go.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
So they're also gonna be all set for day games.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Now, yeah, we'll have He'll have three lots of three
point games during.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
The day exactly. So you know what when Boston comes
for their obligatory afternoon game for whatever befuddling reason in
New York too, hat tricks, hat tricks from Zigres all
around all day. Let's see here just saying if Mitchkoff

(30:30):
shows up, this team will be dangerous, smarter.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I know.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
I feel like that's something everybody's panicking about. It's like,
don't panic, let him, have him all, let him. He'll
get there. He'll get there. Remember, he's only his second
year in the league, and.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Right away you don't see hi Mountain overtime, and like
the the media, the beat writers are trying to be like, oh,
Tacket's got a problem with Mitchkoff. He's limiting his time
on ice, right, making it like a tort situation, right,
And then that's why I think that forced brick tackets
him coming out.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
They didn't really want to mention the ankle, right.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
And then at this point, I mean they want people
want to say, oh, why didn't we hear about this before?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
They didn't know about it. Now they knew about.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
It, right, But there's certain things that that need to
be addressing. The other little bumps and bruises that guy's
got to work out, so he's a little bit behind.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
It shows, you know Mitchkoff's doing for his speed? Where's
the speed been? You know it's been m I A
so you know A.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
What's good is that we got depth due to you know,
situations with jet Lechenko, you know what I mean, being
up on this squad. He's got to see something, you know,
some playing time now and if that's going to continue
to stay on this team, otherwise you send him back, right,
So this is all gonna you got the borak who
can you know?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
You know, you know, be depth for them as well.
So you know, to Swoopy's point, why is he playing
on the.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Wing, Well, that's the get jet time on ice, so
uh so, And plus I believe Brian you said from
Jump Street that Deborak has played wing and center in
his career.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, he's got a little versatility there, so he depending
on the situation, he can he can definitely play both.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
But you're spot on there, Robbie. There he's on the wing,
so we can get jet sometime.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah. And so with bat Bay, you know, ay.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Some hey, it seems like with all of our Russian players,
you know, attitude can be an issue, right, but it's it.
But with Mitch Kopp, it's the right kind of attitude, right,
like he like he wants to be out there and
and but until you show that you're gonna play both
ends of the ice right then you know, but he
comes right back to him and get and and talk.

(32:37):
It gets them sixteen minutes against against Florida Panthers. So
you know, like you like you said, man, just patience,
you know what I mean, He'll he'll be there right
and until then you have you have the ability to
you know, mix and match wingers, you know, to you know,
balance out the lineup.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Mm hm, I mean not none that everybody could be
off to the same start that to go is.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
So you know, I guess Jamie's not better.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Oh no, as of right now, Jamie is not better.
What's up, Benny? I still love you, guys.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
See this one makes the show so much more fun.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Heather saying I can't stay, but I wanted to pop
in and say a few things. Number one, fuck the
Devil's and the refs okay, Number two go flyers, and
number three love y'all. Well, we love you, Heather, I
can agree.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
To to and three half of one.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Let's see here, Joe saying, can we talk about Brian's
wrong take on the Saint and I'm interference calling ot.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
You're gonna do?

Speaker 3 (34:01):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
He was in the crease. You know they're gonna call
it if he's in the crease. It was soft. I'll
give him that. It was soft, but eh, stay out
of the crease. They're gonna call it.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
Every time I saw him curling out of the crease
and the goaltender initiating the contact. That's what I said,
I would say that, See you disagree.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Here's the thing. If we're gonna do that, If we're
gonna do that, this is what I think needs to happen.
Then if we're going there, bring the crease roll back.
If that's how you're gonna treat it, It's like, okay,
if you're in the crease, then we're gonna have to call.
It's like, bring the crease roll back, modify it, crease
rulls back, and if you touch the goalie it will

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be considered goaltender interference.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Very simple process. Well here's what takes away the controversy
right there. Well, here's the problem. It's not a black
and white rule. Unfortunately, it's to referee s discretion. Now
in overtime, like the NFL, they have to review the
goal to make sure that it's a good goal.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
So that's the difference where if if it was regulation,
maybe it's a whole different conversation. But Toronto made the call,
So Joe's right there, Joe Joe's spot on. Toronto made
the call. But the minute that you're close to that crease,
and we even saw it last time on the Hathaway penalty,

(35:26):
he was forced into Florida's goaltender. But they're still gonna
call it, you know, you know, And yeah, there's situations
where Hathaways was soft too. They probably shouldn't have called
Halthaways either. But you're anywhere neither crease. The defensemen are
going to push you into the goaltender or the goaltender

(35:47):
is going to make a move, and they're gonna get
the benefit of the doubt right now.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
They're just going to especially if they see that a
skates in the crease.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's the sad part, Like it's this is why I don't.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
Like the rule.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'd rather have increase rule or something a little bit
more concrete. It's like past interference in football. It's very gray, right,
and even the slightest, little softest thing could have the
call go against you.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Absolutely, and that's what happened on Saturday. I think it
was soft at shit mm hmm. But I mean, you
have plenty of space why you stand Behi'm that closer.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
To the net, right, And that's the other reason, And
that's why I would say, like, if you're gonna do
something like this, if you're gonna have these kind of calls,
then then I would just argue and say, you know what,
very simple process. Just go back to the crease rule.
Modify it for modern day hockey. Make it so if
your skate is in the crease and you touch the goalie,

(36:48):
that's when you could be in the crease, but you
cannot touch the goalie. Very simple. There's your concrete, there's
your heart, there's your black and white right there, Very simples,
and then you don't have this kind of controversy popping
up now, because now that's the problem you're running into.
Is that kind of shit.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Unless you're breathole, unless your breath hole.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
No, that's only because you know what Buffalo's suffering is
something I think the NHL thrives on.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
So you know, well, yeah, I mean I I do
think it was a really soft call.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
I thought the halfaway penalty was a soft call as well,
but I mean he was in the crease. You're right,
you know it is. It is what it is. There's
no sense dwelling on it anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Whires one last night, something to celebrate, Well, then the
next one.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Right, So with that, let's see here, Benny's got step one,
play the young guy, step two, step three, win the Cup.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Simple man.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Well, well, said Benny. I couldn't set it better myself.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Wait, hang on, isn't that the how the Gnomes would
get their profit from South Park except one collect underpants,
step two, step three profit profit.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah, that's a that is classic.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I love that show so much.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Let's see here.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Later.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Oh it still works. Joe's saying the Lightning Capitol game
is really good. I actually have it up right now,
and it's been crazy. Third period. It was one nothing Tampa.
I'm sorry. It was one one at the beginning, and
then Tampa took the lead, Washington tied it up, and
now they're reno te It's like, what the hell is
going on right now? Everybody's just loose as hell in

(38:45):
the third period and now it's an overtime. See yere uh.
Todoro twenty six saying the lottery is fixed by the
way Oiler's won the lottery three years in a row.
That is not a.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I think they did it better. Yeah, I mean I
I at that point. Yeah, the one hundred percent agree.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
I think last year they did a little bit of
a better job of actually doing the drawing on TV.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
But I mean I I'm one hundred percent with that.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
By the way, Washington just won. So yeah, three two.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Agree?

Speaker 4 (39:30):
I think it was who just scored as a chick run. No,
not chicken and he's set up. Oh yeah it was
chickrid he got set up by.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Wilson and Strom.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Uh ah, yeah, a Flyer.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Like his dad.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Well, either way, good play by the Caps. The slam
dunk at home to win to win this game. What
a wild third period. But anyway, so continue on. So
the Flyers getting their home win final score, they wind
up giving the Panthers the loss three to two the

(40:18):
final score. Hard working game for them, they earned that win.
I mean, hell, they've worked hard in all three of
these games. I think that's what I would say. Have
the results been there completely, No, the stats bear out
that they've played a phenomenal game. If you're going based
on the numbers, you could argue and say they've had

(40:39):
some real rough play at times, and I could understand,
because yeah, there's been some real critical errors and you
know here and there on the ice. But what I
will say is the heart's there and the drive is there,
So that's something to take into account. I think that
that's a huge thing right now because they're not letting

(41:01):
the mistakes snowball into a disaster, like they made some
big mistakes here and there in the home opener, and
even though Vladar bailed them out, they didn't let it
get them down. They kept at it and eventually they
did get rewarded with the goal. Maybe undeservingly so if
you think about it, with the way the play went,
but they got it all the same and they took

(41:24):
advantage of it because eventually they went up to m
So the point is is that they're putting the effort
in there, They're putting the drive in there. Or is
it showing up on the stat sheet all the time. No,
but it's there. It's almost like you can feel it.
You can feel that the heart is there from this team.

(41:44):
The drive is there from this team, which is huge
because you want that from these young pups and you
want it from the Vets too. I mean, hell, what
Coots did last night. I keep bringing it up because
they cannot be understated how big a game that was
for Coots. We hadn't seen a game like that from
him in a little bit, and we desperately needed to

(42:04):
see that from him. So I'm feeling this vibe on.
This team is really good right now, and if they
can keep this going through the season, through all the
challenges that they have yet to face, they may very
well come out as being one of those teams that
everybody looks at. It's like, okay, all right, they're coming back.

(42:25):
They're coming back. Are they gonna do it this year?
Who knows. I'm not gonna go to jump to conclusions,
but they might take note. People might start taking note
and like, okay, Flyers are coming back. Here they come
get ready. If they can keep this up.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
Hey, it shows that they've rebuilt this thing the right way.
You know that everything here has had a purpose, and
that they built a team that's hungry. They built a
team that's not going to stand for losing anymore, right,
that are quick to answer back and not just take
it on the chin. I really think the Flyers can

(43:09):
use this win against the two time defending Stanley Cup
champions to further that, you know, use as a building block.
I'm gonna tie this right into After the game, Rick
Tocket said, in reference to the Florida Panthers, They're a
hard team to play against, So to hang in there
against that team, can we build confidence can we build

(43:31):
an identity, a little bit of swagger.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Hopefully this could help us catapult to the next level.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
That's per Adam client Kimmelman sorry from NHL dot com. Uh,
you know, that's the type of stuff that puts, you know,
hair on your back. Here next standing straight up, right,
and I think Koots's hair was standing straight up after
you see that awesome pregame you know, you know, you know,

(44:01):
homage to the great Bernie Purnh and all the history
and the Flyers lore that was built up and encompassing that.
And then you see what I one of my you know,
I hate the reasoning, but what an excellent number one
patch on their jerseys, and then introducing the white Parant

(44:21):
tribute mask to be given to the player of the
game after the victories, having that one painted behind the crease.
All these things are just fuel from the past running
this team into the future.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
And Coots was.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Just ready to go and we're like, we are not
losing this game this way against this team.

Speaker 7 (44:45):
Yeah yeah, And that's what we love to say, is
what we've been wanting to see from them.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Only only his third four point game in his NHL career.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Wow, that's crazy. M. You would have thought there been
more that is interesting. I'm with you, yeah, Totoro saying,
how is the how is the guy who left us
hanging and went to the Islanders? Super skilled winger from Russia,
played with Michikov.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Max Shabanov.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
He's got a goal he scored in the season opener,
the last for the Islanders.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
They've only played a couple of games, so it's hard
to tell how he's doing. But uh.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
So he's playing, Like shit, what what they.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
This is putting to you? This way?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Just watching him in the preseason, everything that they said
he was, he is. He's silky with the gloves, smart
with the puck. He's so slick it's actually kind of
makes me upset.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
That he's an Islander.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
M M. And let's see here.

Speaker 7 (45:56):
He also goes on to say, for you, Bry, what
do you think about Zigris with the Flyers?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
So far?

Speaker 1 (46:02):
He's got a little swag back. He looked good. He's
put himself in good positions. He's smart with the park. Obviously,
no we keep talking about it.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
He has Sam Bennett and Aaron Ecklatt on his back
and he's still making.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Passes dead accurate passes. To wide open skaters. So I
think this is a good fit form.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I think with his personality, he fits the locker room,
he fits the culture. I think he's getting swag back
and he think he's gonna have a phenomenal season this year.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Absolutely, And he goes on to say that, Oh, well,
thank you total. I appreciate that, brother, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
All right.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
So as we continue on from the Flyers home opener
started the Flyer season, obviously, we talked about some of
the things that we liked, some of the things we
need to see improved on. What do we think so
far about Tackett as the coach.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
I'd like what I've seen early on.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I think he, like I said, I think he does
a very good job of letting these guys kind of
play their game while staying within his system.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I mean, he's He's got a couple of quotes out.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
There already that have me want to run through a wall,
and Robie just gave one of them. You know, it's
he knows what to say, he knows when to say it,
and he knows how to properly motivate these guys. You know,
three games in and I don't think i've seen this
team not fight back. I mean, I'll say this. We

(47:44):
touched on this a.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Little bit earlier in the show too. You know, are
there things to improve on.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Absolutely, We're three games into a marathon season, so there's
definitely things to improve on. But I think some of
the important things that we wanted to see out of
the gate, I think we're seeing obviously once it tends
to be better. I wanted to see the power play
kind of be better out of the gate, but sometimes
it takes a minute when you're learning a new.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Power play system too.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
So but I mean overall, I mean, with three games in,
I mean I'm not disappointable what Talk is doing.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I'm actually kind of impressed.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
But you know, I like to see I like seeing
this fight in this team, and like I said, hopefully
hopefully continues on through the next seventy nine seventy eight games,
however many they have left.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
By the way, Oh, Dallas just scored. That's the other
game that's currently on ESPN right now. But I just
saw that in Minnesota is wearing a twenty five years
patch on the side of their jerseys. I remember when
they came into the league. I feel old right now.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, welcome to the party, pal.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah, about time, Dick.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
It was like when when Carter Heart's like idol growing
up was Carry Price? Is like, I remember when Carry
Price got drafted by the.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Canadian who in fighted this guy.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot you remembered when Scott Needamyerk
got drafted? Anyway, Hey, I'm right, shut up. You can't
deny it.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I remember when a lot of guys got drafted.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I remember when Mario got it drafted.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
You know you got me all that one.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Oh all right, I won't I refuse to comment anyway.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
So gross.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
So uh, Rob Bride gave his opinion on it. How
about yours? What are you feeling so far with talk
these first three games? Is behind the bench?

Speaker 3 (50:13):
You know, I like his communication with the players.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
I liked a lot of the decisions that he's made
within the game. I liked him ruling with a hot hand,
you know, Uh, Gribenkan you know, right from you know,
the preseason into the regular season has been popping and
you know, he got moved up because of it. And
I think that's, uh, that shows a coaching versatility that

(50:37):
you like to see. On the negative side, you know,
the special teams has not looked good.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I like power play and penalty kill.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
So I think that you know, maybe that falls upon
you know, Yogi Larite as well, Right, But.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
You know, I just I just.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
You know what creeps in the back of.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
My mind with talking and like I said, I'm not
trying to be negative. There's been a lot of good
things to say. But that comment that he made about
Elias Petterson when he first went to Vancouver, like, yeah,
we'll be working, right, And my fear is that he's
going to try to treat Matt fe Mitchkoff like Elias Petterson,
and that could cause a problem. Right, But again, that's circumstantial,

(51:31):
little tidbits of information that I'm reading online. And you
can't trust anything you read online anymore, right, even as
you listen to this online.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Right, No, you can trust Yeah, you can trust them.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
You can trust them.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
But you know what I'm saying, like like like like
like you know straight away, are they just trying to
stir up a story?

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Right?

Speaker 5 (51:53):
But you know, I really was encouraged about his philosophy
of untapping potent, right you seeing what a guy's strengths
are and maximizing on it, not going against their strengths
for the sake of building what you're building, because that
doesn't work right.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Well, correct me if I'm wrong. But Alias Peterson had
been in the league for a little while when Taki
came over to Vancouver. Had he not been been in
with Vancouver for a little while when he got there,
I mean, to me, I feel like it might be
a little different because Peterson had already been established in Vancouver,
whereas Mitch Cobb is still knew, he's still he is

(52:36):
still in a lot of ways wet clay. He's still
getting molded and the foundation's there for a phenomenal superstar.
But I think that with Tacket coming in, I think
that it won't be the exact same situation because I

(52:58):
think because Mitch Cobb is still so new where it
would be the case. And honestly, I think that the
media spinning things as they're gonna do, you know, I
don't think that helps the situation at all. I think
it just creates the oh well talket's already causing problems

(53:20):
and everything. It's like, Okay, we're three games in and
guess what. During the preseason, Mitch looked pretty fucking good.
So you know what, I don't want to fucking hear it.
It's way too fucking early to start speculating that if
we were, if we were four months into the season
and Mitch kav was really struggling. Okay, I can understand

(53:41):
being a little suspicious. Right now we are three games in.
Let us calm the fuck down. Cool the Jets just
a little bit, just a little bit, please, That's all
I gotta say about.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
That message received because my Jets were kind of starting
to find are up there a little bit. I'm really
just quick to jump on a chink in the armor,
you know what I mean, And not just like I
just don't want to be like.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Peaches and cream.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
Everything's good buyers rah rah, you know like that.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
So I believe I.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
I either texted Brian and I threw in my group
chat that it was really awesome seeing two.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Hockey teams play being played, being.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
Coached by players that I watched come into this league,
and Rick Tacket and Rob Brendamore, you know, both being
former Flyers as well.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
It's a very surreal moment. Also another moment of feeling old.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
But.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
It's it's it's really cool and and like I said,
there's no bigger fan than me, and I could sit
here and positively say this of Rick Hackett doing well
here in Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Right right, I mean, piggyback off that not only their
talking and Brendan Moore coaching right now, they were teammates
on the Flyers.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Anyway, So what I want to say this, hopefully, hopefully
this is gonna calm Robbie's jets a little bit more too.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
So just.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Elias Petterson needed to be reworked because he's a head
case and he was not playing to the level that
he was supposed.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
To be playing.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
So that's that's a lot of the reason why Talckett
said what he said. Mitch CoV is not that that
type of player. He wants to work hard, he's got
a great work ethic, and he this is the coaching.
Is he gonna bark back a little bit?

Speaker 1 (55:41):
I mean probably, I mean what guy on that bench
probably doesn't.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
So that being said, I don't think mitchkov seems like
he takes coaching pretty.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Well for the most part. Patterson was not that type.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
A lot of people when he was talking about being
traded not a player. A lot of teams don't want
to have to deal with his attitude, you know, so, well,
that makes you feel a little bit better.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Yeah, definitely a difference between being a head case and
showing that you got a pair of balls.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
M h. Yeah, there's a difference between confidence and ego,
very big difference. And let's see here Benny's saying, overall,
team looks like they were enjoying playing hockey again. And
I think that that was the point that I was
saying earlier, and Benny just said it in the best
way humanly possible. Right there, they are enjoying playing hockey again.

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And I agree see John saying I remember being at
the first fire Stanley Cup rate, so I'm one old
motherfucker got there. But you know what, though, John, listen,
you got us there, but you know what, you got
the best one of them all because you actually got

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to see the fucking Stanley Cup in Philly, So you
know what, all us three didn't get to see that.
So you know what, take that and strive on that one.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Well, by Krockey, let's give John another one, right and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Let's make it so not only does John can see
in a third one, we can all see one and
we can all see it together. God damn it, let's
do it. Toto saying people are calling him Towards two
point zero.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
People are being a little hyperbolic a little bit, a
little bit, And yeah, I could, I could agree.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
He's got some of the similar qualities as Towards does,
but he's not as anal as Towards was.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
So Rocket talking is a little bit more what's I
don't want to say laid back, but let's just go
with that.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
That's controlling.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Yes, I'm willing to take in other people's input, input,
but then.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Ultimately it's my call, you know. And and uh uh,
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
I still see we saw it at the end of
last year, but coming into preseason and so far three
games in, I'm still seeing that free spirited team.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
So that's important.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Right, Let's see what else we got here, saying this
is a team that hasn't been in the playoffs in
five years, and you know what, this is a team
that's tired of being in the player not being in
the playoffs after five years. Think I think we can
all agree we're seeing a fire there that they want
to get back to there.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
If it makes everybody feel better, Anaheim hasn't been in
the playoffs in.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Eight years, and although Detroit hasn't been to the playoffs
in ten plus, it's been about that long.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Yeah, and you know what Detroit should have been by now.
So if anyone should feel bad right now, it's the
Red Wings because they've been rebuilding for different.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
What about Utah?

Speaker 9 (59:02):
They've never been in, never been there, absolutely, so positivity,
come on, right right, some positivity, let's go.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
But also, you know, Bri, I wouldn't feel too bad
about your ducks. I mean, they did snag a victory
away from the Sharks, although the Sharks did, like want
to hand that win to them the entire fucking time.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
I want to get rid of.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
He did look shaky as hell.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
He looked just as bad as Jonathan Gibson did in
his debut.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Oh my god, let's see here. Talk also helped you
become a second top two defenseman. And that's a good
point right there to bring up. Yeap, just saying, Rob,
if they tell you to cool your jets one more time,
get better hit them with it.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Eat my shorts, cow dude.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Yeah, And then he says Peterson is a CJ GJ
on his fifteen and then he also goes on and say, yeah,
but the difference Brian Ducks won a Cup in our
lifetime Detroit with their dynasty.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah fair enough, fair enough, right, right? So sorry, I
was trying to be positive. I'm just trying to make
you guys feel better. But what you can do?

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
Hey, I mean, hey, look at it this way.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
It wasn't your fault that they won against Ottawa in
two thousand and seven. Literally, Otta was just like, listen,
we just want to give you this cup. It's not
like Canada wants one, so I can.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Basically what it felt like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
I mean, Anaheim controlled every game in that series except
for one.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
But that was just because Ottawa didn't want to get swept.
That was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
That was an ugly Stanley Cup that that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
But to be fair though, I think Ottawa by that
point it's just like their heyday was over. Like like
if there was ever a time for them to win
the Stanley Cup, it was two three years prior to that,
and they they didn't just because they kept running into
Toronto and they could not be It's like, how Toronto
is in there, right, It's like, how the hell can

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you not be Toronto? They are not as good as you.
They are not as talented as you, and we should
know we beat them like three times in nearly two thousands,
so it's like, how the fuck can you not beat them? Anyway? So, boys,
before we wrap this one up, was there anything you

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wanted to throw in there about the start to the
season for the Flyers or the big win that they
got on their home opener on the Bernie Piran Tribute night.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yeah. No.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
If this team is close to being in the playoffs
come trade deadline, you think they make a move for
Quinn Hughes to to get.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Him now and then sign him.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Oh, I think I asked us to do it too.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
If they pull that move off, Oh, you know what,
I think you might be onto something, Robbie. I think
you might be onto something. This is why you're a
fantasy guy. He's just stifting through. You're finding the between
the lines here.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Hey, no, no chagrin to uh oh.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
And by the way, I apologize, it's Adam Yanning, not Jinning,
as I've been saying for the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Past couple of weeks. Adam Yinning.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
I don't know if he clarify his pronunciation recently, because
I could have sworn he was referred to with the
hard G sound in the past, but.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Adam Yanning has played well.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
Eagler Zamula has not, and we saw him healthy, scratched
and Emil Andre back up, you know, with the ProTeam
given an opportunity while while there's injuries, So there's room
where you can you know what I mean, like where
you can improve this defense.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
That's my point, right, I mean, hey, it's not a
bad idea, and like Brice said, they got the assets
to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I'm actually looking up to see how many first rounds
they have this year.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I believe it's two.

Speaker 8 (01:03:24):
No, it's only one one first two seconds and I'm
sorry they have two next year, so you can I
don't know about you, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
I would give up Sanheim.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
I would give up first this year, first next year,
and maybe uh prospect that's ready to go now that
you're not necessarily sure is going to be able to
break through it anytime soon. So let's just for instance,
to say, like an Oliver Blanc, do you think they
would do that for Quinn Hughes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
You free up cap space moving sand Hi.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Hmmm, A further removed, a further down the route like
I would trade one of your prospects from this year's
draft instead of Bond.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Okay, I would be done for that. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Maybe what's his name, Carter D'Amico. Is that the defense,
the big defense when they drafted.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Yep, yep, you hit the nail right on the head.
I would do that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Yeah, you know, I'm I would. I would agree with
Robbie if you sub out Bank and you roll with that. Sure,
san Hai has been great and he's been very strong,
but hey, if it means getting huge and he's already
worked with Tacket before, and he's already been made and

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he's played very well under Tacket, might just be able
to fill right in and even better.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
So am.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
I mean, I'm kind of down with I mean, yeah,
it's something it would suck to see Santa I'm go.
But at the same time, if you're getting a really
strong play from quinn Us in return, I ain't gonna
knock it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
It has to be Sanhaim or Risto.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
But I think you might be able to get him
with with Sanahaim Vanheim.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Yeah, I don't think you're getting him with Risto.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Right and then and and hey, look he's got to
take that role that san Heim's in right now. You'd
love to put him up and then bump Sanhaim down
within that to make yourself even stronger. That's not how
it works in trade. You know, if you if you
wait to sign him later, then you could go over
that route. But if you want to lock it down
now right, ultimately, he's going to take that top D

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spot right the least they've shown some good depth behind him.
But that's why I wouldn't want to get rid of
Bunk because I would need that on the back end
right now. And yeah, and then you know, but I mean, hey,
if maybe you give up Bunk because you're you want
to go with the bigger sized guy with Chris Amico, right,
So I wouldn't be sad about it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Yeah right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
I mean Totoro was even saying that this free agency
class looks like a dud twenty twenty sixth class. So
do you think Danny swings for trade and get some
role players?

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
I mean, that would be the cut. That would be
the definition of a big trade right there. You get
rid of stan Jeim, and you get rid of a
prospect and a pick are two, and you pull in
Quinn Hughes that's a big trade right there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
That would be Danny's first real big trade.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Look at look at look at all the free agents
that have been or U shouldn't say freeents, upcoming free
agents that we're ailab we had big David signed a
two year deal, Capri Stop signed an eight year deal,
Michael signed an eight year deal, Lane Hudson signed an extension,
Jackson mccolem signed an extension, Mesa mccalvish signed his extension.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Like anybody that you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Felt was going to be available next year, they're all
getting swooped up, and it's it's tough to watch, though. Yeah,
I honestly, I don't know if you guys will agree
with this. I mean I think that he's he's only
option is going to have to be swing for the
fences on the trade.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
If he wants to improve this team, he's gonna have to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Right And I mean, if that's the case, this is
the definition of doing that. Like the trade we're talking
about right here, that is the very definition of it.
So I mean, hey, if you're Danny, you're not eliminating
the possibility. I mean, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 7 (01:07:25):
And I do think that, Yeah, if you don't have
the free agency class to go to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
You gotta make the trade, yeah, to see what's out there.
So last couple of comments here from Joe Other teams
failures don't make me feel better about the Flyers late
nineties to early two thousands. It was a holiday in
Philly and Northeast Philly in April decorating my front window

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in front door and Flyers swag for our annual playoff run.

Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Man, we were so spoiled back then when there was
no salary cap and the Flyers could just grab anybody
they wanted and just pair them with the top line
and just be like, hey, let's go for it. Why not,
let's see if we can make a run. Boys. I mean,
I don't know why they couldn't fucking go get a
top tier goaltender to save their sorry asses. During that

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entire time, they were spending a fucking ton of money
like drunken sailors. That would have been nice for them
to have done. It's like, so you spend all this
money on these great forwards, where the fuck is your goalie?
That would have been nice, Like could you have lord
one of them?

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
They did that with Beesbrook and Joe eight, eight years
too late.

Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
Yeah, Like, listen, nineteen ninety six was very memorable in
a negative way, but this was nineteen ninety fucking nine.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
So I mean, come on, oh man, yeah, bet it
even brought it up, you'd be settling for Beezer. I
wasn't see that's the problem. It's like, so you settled
for Beezer. It's like, why don't you go get fucking
Kujo or something. I keep saying that because it's like
he was fucking there the whole time. You could have

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just gone and got him.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
But anyway, wasn't there talk that they were trying to
go after Hashik and it just fell apart?

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
I I think you remember hearing that story.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
I think so too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Yeah, sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
That sounds pretty accurate for the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
I also have other breaking news. The sky is blue
and water.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
But you know what's funny though, there was actually a
lot of people thought Ray Bork was gonna come to
Philly and then at the last minute he went to
Colorado instead. It's like, damn, man, what could have been?
Could you have imagine if Bork had been a flyer like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Bork and Gretzky at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
That's crazy when you think about that, that is just
absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Could have had Pork and Gretzky at the same time,
depending on how Gretzky's contract would have went, does he win,
does he wind up in New York, does he sign
long term? Does he lock up get locked up in Philly?
Like that's something to think about, Like it's it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
What but yeah, exactly what you said. What could have been?

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
I know, man, dude, that defense would have been so good.
Like imagine if Bork and dejar Dan had got a
chance to work together. Oh oh god, damn, it's like
forget it, Like I'll give a fuck with the Devil's
got the trap. Look at what we got.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
Those wores ever No goals ever, right, just like that
one commercial.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
No goals, no goals.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
Oh man, all right, uh so all right, guys, we're
gonna finish this one up. One last comment. Danny has
made big moves getting players Zigres with three way trade
that turned Sean Walker throw in who became a first
Do you think we get an impact player? No one
is thinking of.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
I that they've shown that propensity already, right where there's
been some eyeses and and and are working. So I mean, ultimately,
what if I think one player that comes off the
top of my head, if a certain superstar doesn't want
to stay in Vegas, you know, that could be something

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that you know that no one's talking about right now,
except we talked about that a few weeks ago. If
you go back and check us out on YouTube, Facebook
or wherever you download your podcasts, Zeerra's looking like he
was Wayne Gretzky with that pass behind them from behind
the net. So maybe maybe you know, like Danny has
made some big moves already and and but that, but

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the biggest is yet to come.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
There's always going to be somebody. There's gonna be somebody else.
There's always somebody that gets dealt that we're not expecting
to see at the at the deadline.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Yeah, yeah, true.

Speaker 7 (01:11:56):
Benny said he was talking about Chris Bork, Chris Pork
or Raybork. He was talking about Chris Bork, but we
were talking.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
About Ray Jokes, I got whatever. Whatever. Anyway, Joe was saying,
Bobby Clark and Flyers Regretzki team growing up. So there
you go, all right, guys, that'll do it for this
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results haven't always been there, the excitement is very much
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feel like it's getting contagious because the Flyers are an
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has got nothing to lose and has every single fucking
thing to gain. So let's hope that that is going
to drive the Flyer season moving forward. And just to
double check, do we have a game next week that
we will be able to do some live reactions too.
Let me just take a look here, uh I don't

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think so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Oh well, it is what it is. They're going to
another Monday game when they play the Kraken, so they'll
have their first game against the Seattle Cracking on Monday,
so we'll be able to review that next week. But anyway,
from all of us here, we hope you will stay safe,
you stay healthy out there. Let's go Flyers. The season

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