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Journey into the matrix of the mind. Stretch your imagination and challenge reality.
Abnormal Realities are beacons for the imagination. What society deems the abnormal maybe more
real than we think. This isAbnormal Realities with your hosts, Ron Phillips
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and Rockies Stuci. You know,it's kind of weird. It's it is.
It's kind of weird to not youknow, I'm locking the fingerpoint from
brother Philippio. I'm used to gettingthe double round finger point to give me
the kickback in what's going on?Everybody? We have Lucky Stone in and
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Radio. But welcome to the program. This Thursday night run is off this
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for the Rocky Stucci Show. Ifeel it gets screwed up what night it
is, and one show I'm doinghere. The website will be in progress
as we continue, and Ron willbe a cold pilot on that program as
well, so you know, expectto see a lot of Ron Phillips.
So yeah, so that's where we'reat Thursday night. Abnormal realities. Man,
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you know it's weird because how somaterial. You guys know this.
You know we got the ADHD thinggoing on. What's up? Man?
We got the breakdown in the house. It's it's this weird ADHD thing.
Man. I how we choose tocome up with information sometimes, how we
choose to come up with show material. When we do the show on Monday,
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Tuesdays or Wednesdays. You know,it's more current avantas, more societal
stuff. And that's all good,that's a beautiful thing. But you know,
by seven o'clock at night, everybody'sregurgitated the same thing fifty five times.
I don't want to regurgitate everything that'salready been regurgitated. So that opens
up the door of exploration of conversation. Whether we do it on Monday,
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Tuesdays and Wednesdays, or we doit on ab normal realities. Because we're
the boss anyways, it don't matter. We could talk about what we want.
You know what I mean. I'mdrinking dunkin Donuts coffee. I'm doing
a shut up for dunkin Donuts.No meat balls are here, yes they
are meatball army baby. Um,Oh, what the hell was I saying?
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Man? I forgot? What wasI saying? I got distracted by
the meatball army stuff. But no, it's it's all content and me and
Ron we joke aroun all the timein regards to a certain situation that'll happen
somewhere, and all of a suddenwe're just like boom show material. I
might have to thank you, Hiram. I appreciate it. I think Westfield
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Presbyterian Church in New Jersey is hauntedby the Headfield clip. Really, we're
no kidding. That's interesting. Um. If I remember, I'm gonna come
back to that and we're gonna tryto pull something up while we're doing it.
That's an interesting thing because what we'regonna be talking about tonight on the
program. Thank you again, bythe way for that donation. Hire um
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um say what is that? Biffidumbifodum, High roun biffidum. Ladies and
gentlemen, welcome to the program.High roun biffidum um. We're just recently
talking Well, how this all startedwas. I was just talking recently on
a recent show about treatments and Ialways tell people from a paranormal side.
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Because this got brought up after theprogram. People were sending emails in regard
to the correlation with treatments and thespiritual experience in a treatment facility, because
I believe treatments are probably one ofthe darkest places you can go to spiritually,
because everybody there lost their shit.They gotta go out there and they
gotta it's gonna take them a longtime to rEFInd it, you know,
so um different guards to a veteranwho's going to lose his house. I
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would like to change the topic.I don't know. It's not saying who
it is, but if there's somethingthat we can bring some some awareness too,
let us know some anyma let meknow. I don't know who here.
It's not saying who you are,just as Facebook user. But I
remember after I got out of treatmentand I was going back to these different
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facilities, and I would go intothese facilities and I'll walk in there,
I'll feel really gross. And Iwasn't really aware. I wasn't really conscious
about the paranormal at the time.I just knew that something just felt weird.
And so that's kind of one ofmy things about like the treatment facilities,
is that when you have people thatare spiritually broken, you know,
I think that in a lot ofways with that spiritual brokenisms. I know,
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Linda seek see I'm distracted right now. Just freedom you telling me I'm
getting distracted. You see, Um, it's just gross. It's it's you
either are things there. I thinkthat there are things there that are probably
more of a non human thing.But then that that led to the topic
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in regards to churches, deb treadWay. You know that hasn't been here
all week. You know, I'mjust I just want to let everybody know
that we kind of missed her.You know. Now she has a lot
of stuff going on. You know, that's one thing about all of us
here with the family unit that wehave. It's it's, man, we
all have life. Look at allyou guys came up for me. Man,
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when I'm wearing like a girdle thingright now, I don't know if
you guys can. You can't seeit. I'm wearing this thing that kind
of hold it up. It's justI still got that swelling and I still
got the third boob thing going,and I'm really uncomfortable with that. But
I did put some lipstick on thetip of it the other night and it
looked fantastic. I felt really weirdwent to Walmart. Though. You guys
have been amazing with me, andyou know, we all have life no
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matter what life and it sucks,man, Sometimes life just sucks. And
it's it's this, you know,we learn as we progress any man,
that it comes down to the unitwe are and who we are and what
we represent and how we look outfor one another. So dad boy,
we notice when you're not here.And I saw your picture Mamma today and
man, she's gone through some stuffand all of you've gone through some stuff.
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So man, we're all here foryou. We're all praying for you.
We all got your back on percentyou've got any problems. You know,
I'm not too far away. Youknow, we're not too far away.
We love the all out of you. So when we were talking about
the treatment centers, where the conversationin regards to churches came up. And
I've investigated churches, I've actually hadsome very question questionable using the wrong kind
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of terminology that I want to use. I've had experiences at churches that were
not the experiences that I would sayI would expect to have at a church.
And it really kind of made methink of some really weird things.
Man, It's just why where whenstructures, facilities, locations geological geologically speaking,
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we just recently found out underneath theGoldfield Hotel and Goldfield, Nevada,
that there is a certain type ofstone that literally gives off energy. You
know, I'm not talking about alittle Nama stay type of energy. It
gives off this crazy amount. It'slike it it's like the best, the
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highest one. I can't remember.I'll find out what it is. We'll
talk about it next week on oneof the shows. And I guess it
covers half the town. So whenyou had a geologist that came in and
they did this study, they foundout that the Goldfield Hotel, on top
of everything else with the minds andthe springs and everything else, you will
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have this amazing, humongous rock that'sthe size of a football field I'm sorry,
the size of a half of atown. And it's this rock that
produces legitimate energy. And then youknow, it makes a question a lot
of things in regards to Okay,so there's a source, so that store
is producing a hallucination or is thatsource actually creating across some kind of a
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cross frequency between parallels? You know, they say sometimes when the EMF is
high, like in by Mackis that'sin Kentucky, a superhunted place. But
when you go in there and yougo do baseline readings where you're actually just
walking around with an electric electromagnetic meter, it's literally just monitoring the electromagnetism in
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the air. Your electricity chords giveoff electromagnetic energy, your refrigerators do.
So anytime your refrigerator kikesign, you'llget a burst, you'll get a reading.
That is, if it's not insulated. The older refrigerators you will,
the older furnaces you will. Youknow, the older electrical appliances you will
get because they weren't insulated as good. So when you go into an older
location that isn't insulated as good,it's not going to insulate that electricity as
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properly as it should. And soyou'll walk into a location that's running a
baseline of like a four milligoss ofan EMF reading an electromagnetic frequency. And
when you look at what that doesto the human body, it does produce
different elements. It produces certain physicalconditions, and it produces certain type of
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psychological hallucination, type of mental conditions. So you know in these conversations that
we have that we should have,that we had to have, is that
you know, we go into theselocations and it's important to understand that not
everything is a freaking ghost. It'simportant to understand that, and there are
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causes and effects of certain things.Now, scientifically, we can walk into
a place like Mackie's and say,well, this place the installation of electricity
really sucks. And we know thatwhen you walk into locations or people that
live in homes that have a veryhigh em base reading of like a three
or four. I think the saferange is under two. I think the
EMF if you walk around with thegauge you can even download them on your
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phone now because the mobile phones actuallyhave the magnet inside of it that allows
you to be able to get accuratereadings. If you walk around the house
and you'd get under a two year, okay, But if you're walking around
a house and you're getting a twopoint five, three, three point five,
four or seven, it's going tocause issues for you. Guarantee,
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it's going to cause issues for you. Now, there's scientific logic to that.
They're scientific logic to that. Butjust because we can come up with
scientific logic, doesn't mean that thatis the end all because one is causing
one is causing certain sounds because it'snot an hallucination. When a real material
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item moves, that's not a realhallucination because that's a real moving object.
It's not your brain thinking something moved. So now we've exceeded the medical explanation
of the EMF because in a lotof these locations where you actually do have
a high m F, you havea lot of paranormal shit going out.
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You know, I mean people poopand pass out and people go home with
nightmares. So you know, hecould have been one of one and one
of both or both of one andwhatever. Yeah, it could be or
it could be an energizer. Itcould be the an energy point to where
maybe it attracts certain entities that needthat energy to be able to produce and
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scare the shit out of people.We got a call got about four years
ago. Some of you might rememberthis. Glenda says, a rocky you
know damn well that my boys andI will stand by you after you stood,
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but after you stood by us througheverything we went through. The Oh
come on, girl, this yearwas easy. This year was easy.
We're good. You got us,You got us. Whenever you need us,
come on. It's like a paranormalI think that Mary Mary Manswell said,
it's like a paranormal charting station.I think that because a lot of
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locations. If I sit here andI actually started to do if I started
to do data logging on the differentlocations that I investigated, and I started
looking at the higher level hauntings,and I could come up with four places
literally right off the bat, andevery single one of them were either buy
a major river there by, powerplant, nuclear plant, because up north
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we have nuclear plants. So there'salways something within the vicinity of it that,
in some form or the other wasan energy producer. Even railroad tracks
don't know for sure if they door don't. But you know what,
up you hoot? He my brother, what's it going on? So we
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get a call. There's this townin Wisconsin. They have the most sightings
of UF phones. I'm trying tothink of the time. Always had a
problem. Remember the name of thestupid tone. It was actually not that
far from my house. It wasabout forty five minutes from a house.
We got to call it one day. Some of you heard this story,
but it was from a frantic priest. He was a Catholic priest, and
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it really threw me. It threwme for a kind of a loop because,
you know, Catholicism is a littlebit different. You know a lot
of people I grew up Catholic.A lot of people that I know that
a Catholics say they get super weirdand out about what I do when it
comes to trying to research and understand, you know, our existence. If
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they get super weird to go byit. He was freaking out. And
there's something really weird about this town. Again, like I said, it's
it's one of the most UFO sightingsin this town in the entire state of
Wisconsin. One of them there somuch so that they have the official Wisconsin
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the UFO Days in this town.And I remember the first time driving to
go to look at this church.And I'll explain the story real quick,
but I remember when I was enteringthe town. You I actually went down
and you were surrounded. They weren'tmountains because up Minnesota don't mountains because the
glaciers. What the glaciers actually didup in Minnesota, Wisconsin is that when
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the glaciers were moving from Canada downsouth. They actually dug down, so
they're not mountains that grow up likeyou know, like the rocky mountains up
up north. All the cliffs inthe beautiful scenery that you see are the
reasoning of everything being sculpted down.And so we drove down into this kind
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of a valley thing, and itwas weird because I instantly felt a different
energy on my body. And Ididn't jump to conclusion right away. I
didn't right away and be like,holy cow, this whole town was hunted,
but I thought it. It wasthe first thing I did come to
mind, because you know, Imean, I've been doing this long enough
to where my body talks to mepretty good. But there was something weird.
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And I don't know if my bodywas picking up like a pure normal,
supernatural type of energy or if mybody was actually picking up something in
the area right because there were someweird satellites, there were some weird towers
in the area. I didn't knowif my body was picking up that energy
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source. I didn't understand it,but the town was freaking weird. I
drove around the little I mean,it wasn't big, but I drove around
the neighborhoods and I was looking atthese houses and I was getting nauseous.
I was like, my god,there's something that's not right. And so
we ended up getting to the locationand we've met this priest at the rectory
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and I mean, obviously most peopleunderstand what it is, and you know,
directories where the priest lives. Idon't know if the nuns lived there
or not, because you know,there may be some funny play, you
know, and they got to keepthem separated. They're like high school kids,
you know. They do funny stuff. They play spin the bottle and
stuff on Friday nights they should do. They played spin the bottle and then
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they go confess to one another.So it's all good. They got a
good system. Some strange energy vortexcould explain both the paranormal stuff, and
you know, I agree. Seethat's it, Mary, and we're gonna
get into this, and we'll getinto it in the second segment too.
Because churches that you know, wehave this perception because it's a church,
that it's a safe space. Wehave this perception that spiritually that that's where
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you go, like if there's ana zombie apocalypse, You damn well guarantee
that there's gonna be a bunch ofpeople, one form or the other,
that are going to run to achurch thinking that, you know, at
least that they died, they're gonnadie to church. So it's kind of
like an easier end, you know, it's like their ticket, They're got
an early plane ticket. What up, Carlis Curtis? Um, what up,
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James? He says, if Catholicpriests got it from nuns like that,
you know what I'm saying, Soit wou'd be going down, it
would be going down the priest.And we're getting close to the bottom of
the hour break. But the priestwas awakened one night because he heard roughly
in the kitchen. Now this churchwas built in the eighteen hundreds. It
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was called Sacred Heart Church. Iactually went my grade school is called Sacred
Heart, which I found really weird. I didn't even know how this priest
got my information. All the majorcases I've ever done, they have never
I don't know how the people havegot my information. So it's a spiritual
thing. I believe he heard roughlean in the kitchen, and so when
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he went down into the kid hewent down to the kitchen because he thought
somebody's breaking in, and so hecame down on the stairs from the upstairs.
Now, the rectory it was itwas like a It wasn't a huge
Victorian house, but it was anolder house built in the eighteen hundreds.
But it was a nice size house. It wasn't a tiny house. You
know. It was an old town. It was just it is what it
is. And so um with that, he went into the kitchen and there's
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a little girl standing in the kitchenand she was wearing dated clothing. So
let's say, I think he wassaying, like eighteen hundred style clothing,
and she was just standing there,and he freaked out and he ran into
the living quarters, the living area, the living room, and he sat
down on the couch. This isa priest telling me this. Now,
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mind you, the priest had tolie to the deacon and the other you
know, people involved with the church. I think there was four or five
people that actually lived in that rectory. He had a lot of them,
and they were all out of townfor that weekend. He sent them all
out of town literally, so aweek could come to this location. Because
it goes so against the belief systemof people that were at the church.
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So he goes in, he sitsdown in the living room, and he's
freaking out. And the reason he'sfreaking out is because he saw something they're
getting out. His belief system wasjust challenged, right, because when he
grew up in here, indoctrinated tobelieve something, he becomes staunch in that
belief. It becomes reality. Soanything that goes against it, it's hard
for you to process it. Andso he started justifying it. Okay,
I just woke up. I wasstill kind of in a dream state.
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I'm hallucinating, okay, whatever.So he mustered up some courage, he
stood back up, he went backin the kitchen, just kind of saying,
hey, okay, I'm seeing thingswell. When he went back in
the kitchen the second time again,and the reason I repeat myself on this,
this came from a camp priest.And when he was telling us this
story, when we were interviewing himin the rectory, you actually saw genuine
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fear come from him. I don'tknow if it was fear, if it
was confusion. He didn't understand becausehis belief system never allowed him to explore
that realm. Of existence. Hedidn't understand what he was dealing with,
so automatically he's thinking demon, right, he was thinking, the devil's out
to get on, the devil's outto attack him. But when I happened,
when he went in the second time, this is the part that threw
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him over. This is the partthat gave him his body and clade moment.
Is when he went back in thesecond time into the kitchen, just
to validate he was losing his mind. The girl was still in there.
And this is kind of unheard ofto me. I've never the stories I
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hear in regards to repeats, meaningthat you see an operation, you walk
away, and you come back inthe opperation is still there. It's probably
I can content on one hand,and I don't know. I've been doing
this ten, eleven, twelve years. I don't even know how long I've
been doing it. It's just along time. But when he went back
in the kitchen, here's the partthat got him. It wasn't that she
was still there that would get anybody, but the second time, it was
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the fact that she was making eyecontact with him that changes the whole game,
and that would freak me out.See eyes freaked me out. Eyeballs,
eyeballs, they freaked me out.I told you guys about that one
time. I was We had anewspaper reporter with us in this location.
It was an old jail up inuh it don't matter, Taylor's Falls,
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Wisconsin. And so we did thisscrying with the candle and the forehead and
the third eye stuff. And I'dactually seen this woman seeing her face turn
into a beast, turn into likea sasquatch looking type of creature in front
of them. That was the firsttime I ever did it too. I
felt really weird, and in frontof the reporter, I we fell on
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the floor freaking out because again mymind wasn't prepared for that. And so
I went like a whole week.I went like a whole week without looking
in the mirror. I could notlook at my review mirror. I didn't
want to see. Eyeballs. Eyeballswere freaking me out because when I saw
her face change and I saw thiscreature, I was dialed in on her
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eyes and her eyes were locked inon me. And I still see that
and that it kind of sticks withme a little bit. But anyways,
so when the priest goes back intothe kitchen because I want to be at
the bottom the hour here. Whatreally set them off was the eye contact.
Now, when you get the eyecontact, that's telling you right off
the bat that boom. Check itout. Now it's not residual. All
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right, now, it's not something. Because I always wondered about the clothing.
You know, how does that workin spirit? Do we you know,
do we stay in fashion of theera that we died forever in eternity
or however long we choose to standon this planet and limbo. That's why
I always thought, you know,lots of times when people actually see clothes
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and instated, you would automatically kindof assume it would be something residual.
But some of the most amazing storiesI've heard where people have had interactions where
they thought it was a legitimate humanbeing, where they were having a conversation,
eye contact, gratitude, thank you, you're welcomes in a second that
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one of those people were never there, and that happens to just the most
common people. Oh there, itis all right. Now I can stop
panic and wonder when the hell thatwas going to start? When we come
back, I want to get ontosome of these haunted cemeteries. I'm going
to finish the story about Sacred HeartChurch, the investigation because we didn't investigate
the location, and then some onthe churches and why do people think that
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the churches are the safe spot folks. Hey, it's Thursday night. I
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Bro. Wife, feeling that energyright now, It's a pretty good
energy. I'm feeling right now.I'm just saying, dude, tinker Bell
at a crush on on what justshe was always wearing like tiny skirts?
He was wearing tiny skirts? Doyou think that was subliminal? Of course
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it was. It's Disney. Comeon, everybody knows Disney is subliminal.
Yeah, dude, At the frontof the Little Mermaid VHS case, come
on, there's a big old weeneron it? What not even joking?
Show us right well? Where what? And where on the little the old
Little Mermaid Casey? You you searchweener on Little Mermaid case? You let
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me know if you don't see abig old thing right on the front of
that case. Why y'alling at me? I'm just hold one up look at
the tower. Abnormal Realities. Ihate that. I knew that. Damn
it. With Ron and Rocky,it'd BM Eastern Mojo five o oh.
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Man, almost forgot about that part, you know, it's my little Rosty.
Almost forgot about the drawings, butyou know what I came through.
I followed through. Folks, Welcomeback to the program. Second segment.
They have Normal Realities. You cancatch us here every Thursday night at seven
o'clock Central, eight o'clock Eastern.Have Normal Realities dot com. You can
find us on Odyssey Radio, odySy Radio dot com, and all the
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podcast platforms. Man, go backand listen to some of those shows,
Matt when we got some crazy,crazy shows that we've done. We've been
doing this now for a little overa year year and a half. It
was July fifth was our one yearanniversary, and now we're coming up into
January. So we have Normal Realities. I know the schedules changed over some
time, but we're blessed. It'sit's been fun. We got some great
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conversations. We've had some great guestson the show. I'd love talking about
this stuff. You can also catchmy show along with the great Ron Phillips
Monday's Tuesdays on Wednesdays. That isthe Rocky Stucci Show Rocky Stucci dot com.
Come on over to the YouTube channelover there. I actually set up
a separate YouTube channel because some ofthe topics that we do talk about are
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Realities or the YouTube channel of AbnormalRealities put in any danger of any kind,
because I've had experience doing this,and I know that there's just a
small amount of people that watch.I call y'all family. But the downloads,
I actually literally sent round a messagebefore the show about six o'clock tonight.
I just had to show them thedownloads that we're at right now,
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just for today, for the lasttwenty four hours. It's just I don't
know what's going on. I don'tknow if that we're using the right keywords
or if we're typing things differently.I haven't done anything special, so I
don't understand. I know we're aprime show on Spreaker, but I don't
know. But thank you, man, holy crap, thank you, super
appreciated. Man. I did somethingwith my window security. Now I got
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all this stupid stuff that's given meall these alarms. But anyway, so
let's get back on with it.And I'm talking about Oh yeah, it's
YouTube dot com forward slash at RockyStuccie. Get over there and make sure
you like I kind of. Idon't even have a hundred subscribers yet over
there. I mean, damn man, no love. This priest was freaked
out coming back into the second segmentwhen I left the first segment talking about
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Sacred Heart Church in a small townin Wisconsin, and this guy was freaked
out and he told us a story. And I've never believed anybody more in
my life. This guy was genuine. He was afraid when he told the
story. He was even jumpy.He was even jumpy in the location.
And then he started talking about alot of things that have been happening over
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in the church itself, right nextstore. Now it's weird because there was
another place in Minnesota it called theEmmanuel Lutheran Church, and I investigated that
place really haunted. I remember justdriving up to the church. I wasn't
even out of my car yet,and my entire body stood up. My
entire body stood, I mean thehairs. It was incredible. In fact,
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certain hairs stood up that weren't eventhere. They weren't even real hairs,
but they were like ghost hairs.I literally fired up my spirit box
in my vehicle and I got crazy, crazy, crazy communication. So it's
not just the church, it's thearea. Walked up to the door.
It was locked. I ended upcalling it was a Baptist church or whatever
they call I don't know. Itwas a Baptist speaker person, I don't
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know what they called them in aBaptist church, minister, pastor something like
that. Play for productions church investigations. But no, it says, hey,
Rocky, finally I made it tothe show. Was going to get
on the show with you a whileback and talk about investigations. I have
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done just one. They just geta hold of me. Get ahold of
me. Oh okay, I knowwho you right now, bro, come
on, get ahold of me.I remember you were talking some Getty's Gettysburg
stuff. Let's get you on here, man, let's get you on.
So um when I talked to thepastor, oh, reverend, thank you,
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reverend, preacher or brother, okay, you know, I thought everybody
was gonna show me love. Fora second, everybody's saying brother, I'm
like, okay, what's up everybody. It was like nothing to them.
I thought I was going to geta little resistance just for the contact,
because churches are really weird. They'revery open about it. All the people
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that go to this church are veryopen about it. And now the same
thing happened in both churches, inSacred Heart Church and in the Emmanuel Lutheran
Church. If you just went upstairsat any time, any time, day
night, any time, dare night, at least for thirty minutes, and
just sat in one of the pewsor the chairs, or just find somewhere
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to sit, and you hear people. You hear people. You hear people
downstairs like it's the gathering after church. It's the donuts and it's the coffee.
You know, Um, it's whereyou go talk behind everybody's back type
of thing for Catholic people. Youknow, they go right from church downstairs
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for donuts and cookies so they cantalk shit. You don't talk about Susie
and Pete over there having a littlething going out. You know, even
though it's not in our business,we're gonna talk about them. You know.
It's interesting because you know. Thisis this is where the conversation comes
into play, is that what arewe hearing? Are we hearing residual?
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Are we hearing those in spirit?Because obviously the ones in them listen to
church and the ones in the SacredHeart Church, we're both intelligent, both
of them. Both cases were intelligenthauntings. And this is when I posed
the question one time in regards toa haunting. Let's say you go to
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a church. Let's say you goto England or you go to Ireland,
right, and you find an old, old Catholic, five hundred year old
church. So you have five centuriesof history in this church, five centuries
of emotions, of marriages, ofdeaths, happy moments and moments, crisis
is safety, war, You getall this stuff going on, right,
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So, when you have people fromdifferent centuries pass on, but yet they
choose, for some reason, howeverworks they choose that they want to stay
at that church. Are they beDo they have the capabilities to interact with
one another? Do they have thecapabilities to see one another? Do they
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understand that they are from far differentrealms of existence? When I pass,
I'll see my grandpa, I'll seemy grandma, is Grandpa going to be
wearing the clothes he was wearing backin the seventies with his miller or as
Schmidt beer and wearing a Schmidt hatwith a Schmidt lamp because he worked at
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Schmidt Brewery. You know, where'sGrandpa gonna be? Am I gonna be
able to see Grandpa because it's adifferent time. How does it work?
Do we have a choice? Dowe have a choice? Can we cross
times? Can we travel to thepast and to the future in spirit?
You know, it's you don't know, you don't know. And so when
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you go to these locations that havemultiple hauntings, because you hear dark haunting
too. So you go you goto a church and you hear about all
these people downstairs, all these ghostsdownstairs. They're having donuts and cookies.
Ah, you know, and thenpeople they show up with donuts and cookies
and they're super excited. You know, they're rolling balls around and trying to
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get it that goes to roll theball back to them. And but upstairs
you have a person sharing an experienceof a terrifying experience. You know,
it's something dark and malevolent, andis that dark and malevolent entity in control
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or does it know of the entitiesdownstairs? Are they living in two different
realms of existence at two different times? You know, I it's so confusing.
But when it comes to a physicalstructure, I think you're regardless of
it being a place of worship,I think it's more or less a place
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of impact. And I think therelevancy of belief I don't think is as
important of the authenticity of the haunting. Oh damn whoo, man, that
just rolled out like I knew whatI was talking about right there. I
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couldn't even repeat what I just said. That's how good it was. I
couldn't even repeat what I just said. I remember when I went to that
location. I talked about the ladyfrom Peru, and when I went into
her house, her house was saturatedwith religious relics, and she was super
frustrated because she was very deterred thatthose relics did not give her the protection
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that she expected them to, andbecause I told her that the physical objects
are just that, they're just physicalobjects. It's your faith in those It's
what the objects represent. And dothe those objects in their representation represent what
you represent? And do you believeit or do you just pretend you do.
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So she was obviously a pretend Christian. She was the type of Christian
that had the Bibles. She wasa type of Christian that had the rosaries
hanging on her wall. She wasa type of Christian that said, God
bless ye, I'll pray for you. But she wasn't the type of Christian
that believed everything she said. Therewas a lot of something going on in
her soul that separated her from herbelief system, because you cannot have that
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much relics in a location and bethat spiritually weak. Or maybe that's why
you had that much in your location, I don't know. So, irregardless
of the Holy Water being in thehouse, irregardless of a Bible being in
every single room, irregardless of therosaries hanging on every single wall, that
a house was still extremely haunted.So at church, you know, I
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think a lot of times in locationslike churches, I think the emotions could
draw and attract certain things. Imean, think about prayer, right,
prayer however you want to talk aboutit, prayer magic However, you know,
people will get a freaking chicken andcut its head off and that's their
form of prayer. I'm using theterm prayer. It's the intent, it's
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it's we're trying to manifest. We'reasking for better health, We're asking for
safety. We're asking for this planetto get it shipped together. We're asking
for you more money. We're askingfor security. We're asking for our friends
to be safe and our friends andtheir families to be healthy. However you
want to look at it, youare creating an intent because you want to
result of what you're hoping for.So however you do it, you do
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it. So go to a churchand you look at some of these churches
throughout the world that that deemed tobe the most haunted locations on the planet.
And it's not so much because ofthe place of the worship, is
because some of the episodes that happenedon that property or in that property.
A lot of it is that emotionallike when people at PTSD's it's that day,
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that emotion being so strong that itembeds that image right at the forefront
of your brain. And that's whywhen people at PTSD that they have the
triggers all the time because they can'tseem to get rid of that compartment right
there. And so I think therelevance is is kind of similar to the
paranormal thing, is that you know, a greater impact that location has PTSD
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as post traumatic stress. You knowthat that location the energy has been stressed,
it has been impacted. But Ialso believe that churches can. I
also believe that churches can probably besome of the darker places too when it
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comes to hauntings because the vulnerability ofpeople. A lot of people are spiritually
lost, and that's why they're atchurch. They're they're finding their way,
They're they're I mean, I'm nota spiritually lost person because I got questions.
I feel very spiritually confident. Ifeel very spiritually confident and how I
believe about things because I have theunderstanding with myself already that I can change.
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I don't have a belief system whereI'm locked in. You know,
I'm not like your typical everyday Catholicwhere this is it. These were the
teachings. Don't question it, justdo it right. And this is why
I have this fascination of wanting totalk to people about the faiths and other
religions with other people, witches,food and witches, whether it be a
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pagan or whether it be a wigun it don't matter. I just I
just want to understand. And atthe end of most of those conversations you're
like, okay, so you justsay it's something different, but yet you're
still okay. So you're going tocarve in a candle and rub some ashes
in your carving to light the candle. That's how you pray. Okay,
Okay, you're gonna have two wives. You're a headache, not mine,
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you know, go do it.I don't talk to de people page setting.
Cemeteries. Yeah, cemeteries are interesting. That's where I got my first
shadow person there again, I believeI got a picture one time. It
was a mausolenum and my sister Leahwas with me. It was a really
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old cemetery in Saint Paul right offof Rose Lawn. It called Rose Lawn
Cemetery. It goes back to theseventeen hundreds. And my sister Leah went
and she was looking inside of mausoleumand I just took a picture of her
looking in the window and we actuallygot a picture of a human hand right
on her breast. I mean,you saw it, you saw all the
fingers, you saw the fingernails.You saw it literally cuffy in her boob,
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and we didn't see it till wegot home. I didn't even know
I captured her and she was actuallygoing through the pictures. I was probably
already out back with my dad doingsomething, and she came freaking out screaming
for me. She showed me thepicture and I couldn't believe what I saw
it was. It was weird,But there again, so it churches have
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people that are going through a lotof spiritual relocating, right. Some people
are unindoctrinating themselves and trying to understandthings differently. People are trying to give
themselves back to Christ. Same thingwith treatment centers, spiritually broken people,
high activity of darker, malevolent typeof spirits. And let's go to the
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cemeteries. Same thing. You know, I don't know one family that's ever
went to a cemetery to party.I don't know one family that's ever been
to a cemetery to celebrate a birthdayparty. You know, mind you you
know what I'm saying. Right.The cemetery is a place where we put
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people to rest. That's why I'vealways had an issue with investigating cemeteries,
just because of the common respect ofnot just the dead with the living.
It was scary, deb it wasit's creepy. It was creepy. So
I believe, you know, thecemetery thing because of the sadness that is
imprinted within that area and depending onbeing all, if there's energy sources around,
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if there's rivers, that there's lakes, that there's power lines, that
there's plants, whatever, I believethat there are some more malevolent style of
creatures that kind of play around inthe cemetery thing. I really do.
How do you feel about a cremation? All right, so curtis cremation.
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So my answer isn't going to bebased off of a religious view. It's
not. You know, one ofthe things that scared me the most is
burning to death and it's weird.So what did I do? I became
a firefighter, makes total sense,But so you find a way to combat
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against what fears us the most.I just this is the wrong answer,
because my the way I'm thinking aboutit is wrong. I just I don't
know what to do with my bodywhen I die. I've literally told my
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family, I've told Lisa even Iwas like, just do whatever. I
don't even need to know. Justdo whatever you think is necessary. I
you know, traditionally, one sideof my family is all cremation and the
other side of the family almost drawnat one time, James, the other
side of the family is non cremation, and so you don't think about it.
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I literally just saw a video theother day. My dad went after
he retired, he worked in thecemetery, he did long care and just
you know, he just needed somethingto do. But sometimes when you dig
down, you have to punch ahole in the caskets because the fluids and
then rainwater gets in and it mixeswith the fluids, and sometimes that liquid
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stays trapped and it will seep throughand it will produce an odor. So
you can find the videos where theyhave to dig down to these caskets and
they have to punch a hole andall this disgusting liquid comes out, and
then they just let it kind ofsulk in earth and this becomes earth.
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What am I saying? So,you know, I think about my body
and I don't cherish myself, soI don't want it to come off as
concede. The thing. I justI don't want to think of my physical
body becoming that. You know,you're thinking it's underground. If my casket
fills up with water, I becomethe zombie looking, nasty, skeletal thing.
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I got earthworms eating me in differentsentipedes eating me and sucking my eyeballs
out. You know, my hairwild still keep growing. So when you
opened my casket on a hundred years, I look like, you know,
shit on Neanderthal. You know,there ain't gonna be nobody to brush my
hair for me. No, I'mskinned, so I don't know. You
know, I think about that,and I shouldn't be concerned about the physical
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part. I shouldn't be concerned aboutthe meat soup, but I think about
it. But then the other parttoo. It's so cremation. I think
about cremation when it comes to cost, you know, I mean, if
you'll get buried, it's a hellof a lot more expensive because you have
to pay for the caskets, youhave to pay for the ground. You
there's so much more you have topay for it. It's stupid how much
people have to pay to bury somebody. You know, when you get cremated,
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it you know, okay, youget put in a jar, or
you get put in a wall orwhatever it is. But you know you're
not decaying under ground, and youknow earthworms aren't eating your ship. You
know, you know that you don'thave centipedes crawling in your skull bones.
I don't want that, even thoughI know I'm dead. I don't want
centipedes crawling in my skull bones.I don't. But I don't like him
when I'm alive. I don't likehim when I'm dead. But it's just
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weird because if you're fire, ifyou're dying in fire, if you're burning
to death, become a firefighter.Now I find this amazing satisfaction of running
into a blazing, freaking building atfive hundred degrees. I don't want to
burn to death, but yet I'mwilling to consider burning my body when I
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die. So I don't know.I don't know if anybody else goes through
this contemplation like I do, butI do. I contemplate it all the
time. And that's where I justget to the point to where it's just
like, just do whatever I think. I'm just concluding just for the cost
of everything, And so I gotall the insurances and everything, but I
don't want to produce a burden.So if it's easier for me to just
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be like, you know, goput me in a freaking pickle jar,
you know, go go release me, you know whatever. I want to
be the less of a burden topeople after I pass in anything else.
So great question, Um, what'sgoing on in the chat room over there?
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Won't be truly, you won't bethere, as Paul states, absence
from the body, presence from theLord. You will not be in your
body the second after the body dies. No understood, um, question on
that. So when people have anear death experience, there's another thing too
where I go into that realm.So there was, and just in the
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chat room Blade four productions, hesays he won't be there. Okay,
we're talking about the cremation part ortalking about being put in the casket.
As Paul states, absence from thebody, presents with the Lord, you
will not be in your body thesecond after your body dies. So when
people have a near death experience,when when people there are there have been
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people that have gone out and beendead for over twenty minutes. There's other
miraculous stories where people have been deadlonger than that. Even if somebody is
dead for five minutes. You're sois gone, your flatline, your body
is debt. Does your soul stickaround just in case? Does it stick
around just in case? You know, they get you back to life.
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This is where I run into thatconflict of the teachings because I get the
point and I understand it and Ipretty much align with it. But there's
those those parts where we have thesephenomenal stories, and we've had these guests
come on the show where they've hadthese these life after these near death experiences,
and it's it's how do you explainthat, So the body becomes soulless,
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but the soul is allowed to comeback in your body? Or does
the soul not leave the body becauseit knows it's not going to die?
You know? That's that's kind ofthe part to where my brain goes kind
of crazy. I know that thatsays James says, tossed my corps in
the local dump. I don't care. I'm done with this vessel. I
want to be like that, James. I do. Man. Sorry,
I was getting a little comfortable inmy chair. I want to be like
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that too. I don't know why. I'm kind of hooked on the not
being able to decide, and thisback and forth thing, it's just creepy.
Let us says, cremation is justas much as being buried in a
casket? Is it really? Damn? You know? Sooner or later?
Yeah, I am so sick andtired of every aspect of our life literally
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bankrupts us, you know, everything. But let me see Page says five
to five. What does that mean? Page? Ashes to ashes, dust
to dust. Um, it's areal stress off your family when you make
preparations. Yeah, and I,for the most part, have all my
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stuff taken care of. And thatis a great suggestion. I you know,
you don't want to think about it, you don't want to face it.
But I gotta tell you something.Just the last month of my life,
there's been things that have gone throughmy brain. Man. It's just
like, you know, I'm notthat Superman anymore. I'm not that this
guy that was indestructible for so long. I found myself to have certain vulnerabilities
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and I don't like it. Idon't like being vulnerable. But I had
to conclude that it is what itis. And I'm forty nine years old,
and you know, I can't pretendthe fact that you know, things
aren't going to happen, and Ineed to make sure that my family is
prepared when that does happen, andvice versa. It's just this world is
dumb and the insurances. You know, if I would have had different insurances,
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I could have got this one packageto where every day you're in the
hospital you get five hundred dollars cash. And I didn't want to spend the
extra four dollars a paycheck or whateverit was. You know, there's something
stupid why I didn't get it.And now I'm sitting here saying it's like,
oh my god, could you managehow much money? Five hundred dollars
a day you're in the hospital foreight days and at four grand? I
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mean damn. So let's see.Depp says, yes, Thomas, my
mother in law did that for?What? What is you? What?
I'm missing so much? It's areal stress. I got you deb again.
We're praying for you. We're prayingfor mama and everybody in your family.
James says, my father died severaltimes on an ORR table. Did
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he ping pong back? And see, bro, I don't know have you
talked to Pops about it? Marysays, my husband had a couple of
NDEs and swears his soul wins somewhereelse and then returned. Oh, and
I was supposed to do this too, Man, I failed you guys dramatically
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tonight because I was supposed to havethis on. I was just gonna kind
of have like I don't know ifyou can hear it, kind of creepree
background music on. But anyways,Linda says, I'm just going through the
chat here rocky when five years agoit was insane as what they chart.
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Yeah, I'm saying, man umyep. And he happened to me too,
part of why I am here tonight, Amen, brother, Amen,
I'd like to hear more about it. So we'll get you on, brother,
We'll get you on. We'll talkabout Kettysburg, and we'll talk about
your indie and a bunch of otherstuff. James says, we went there,
went your lottery ticket winnings because you'llcampbell on yourself. Shouldn't you been
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on the doup? Hey, bro, you know, don't touge me,
James, you know, don't tougeme. So anyways, we're getting close
here to the bottom of or thetop of the hour. And next week,
ron We'll be back. Yeah,we got two minutes before I had
to be out. Ronald's back nextweek. I love you, guys,
I do appreciate you. Appreciate youguys coming to hanging out. Make sure
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