Haunted Objects

Thursday - 1/19/23 - Haunted Objects - Abnormal Realities

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Episode Transcript

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It's your imagination and challenge reality.Abnormal realities are beacons for the imagination with
society deems abnormal, maybe more realthan we think. This is abnormal Realities
with your hosts, Ron Phillips andRocky Scooching. Well that sucked. I

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gotta remember to start the damn showon time. If I started the show
on time, it would sound good. But I failed. What are you
doing swimming? Wait for the damnpoint? Oh sorry, Oh I'm not.
I got the delay screen. Folks. Welcome to this Thursday night edition.

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I have the delay screens. Damnpoint. That's why when we're out
of practice. Oh my goodness,folks. Welcome. It's Thursday night.
It's tack on Thursday. It's humpedThursday. It's Wednesday Thursday. It's Tuesday
Thursday. Right here, Rocky stoodsyou Ron Phillips, abnormal realities. And
I'm gonna tell you something right now, Brother Phillips. Yo, is that
intro? It's no kicker society.Yeah, see, it deems to be

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more abnormal, you know whatever.I can't remember what he says. No,
because I'm so excited. Do we'renot normal? Bro? Let me
ask you this. Let me askyou this. You tell me right now
the definition of normal. Don't saymy name. By the way, well
is your name even in the definitionof normal? Uh, it's not,

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but neither is mine. So yeah, I mean the definition of normal.
There is not a normal anymore.I don't think how do we define normal
though? What is normal? Question? I don't know that you can it
is normal? Just like here,here's my definition of definition of normal.
I don't know. The definition ofnormal is a society where people are decent

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human beings, where we look outfor one another. I don't know what
normal is because I guess I can'tempathize with normality. You know I can't
empathize, you know, I can'tfeel it. Yep. Yeah, I
like to think that I'm normal mostmost of the time. But then again,

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all you gotta do is get onsocial media and you realize, well,
you realize one of two things.Either I'm abnormal like the rest of
everybody out there, or damn it, these people make me look normal.
I don't want to. I justdon't want to. If normal is what
society is, I ain't want nothingto do it all that. Yeah,
you know I do. I justtried throwing some silar stuff out there,

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a folks. By the way,I ab normal Realities dot com is where
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(03:10):
app so you can get you know, all the shows right there, and
you can put the phone on vibratingand then you can sit on it,
you know, and then I'll callyou every two and a half minutes.
Thank you, I Texas. Okay, one more question for you, Ryan
that I've been thinking about all day. Okay, hit me right because I'm

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feeling your energy right now. I'mjust saying it's it's a little overwhelming,
bro my energy. I feel alittle underwhelmed right now. What is the
question? How do you want tobe remembered? Oh? Shoot, you
gotta go deep with the questions.Bring it to my soul, Philippio.

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How do I want to be remembered? Normal is a figment of our imagination.
Yeah, that's true. Um,I you know, I don't know.
I mean, I want to beremembered ultimately, but for what,
Um, that I was? ThatI that I'm an honest business man that

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I you know, was respectful,worked my butt off to do different things
for people, UM, often puttingpeople before business and business and that's oh
got me, got me eccho goingon there? All right? Thank you
can hear me, Okay, Ican hear you just fine. But you
turned that up and I got echo. You were sending me back to me.

(04:40):
You're not even listening to my answer. Yeah, I do keep going.
I'm done. Um, you didn'thear the question at the end of
do you want your children to rememberyou? That I was at least a
decent dad? Where are you goingwith the question? Answer? That's a
good answer. How do you wantpeople to remember you? Especially your kids?

(05:03):
How do you want them to rememberyou? You knew I was going
to ask because you ask me.Um, I was thinking about it today
because you know, when when whenyou know we're younger, we don't understand

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certain things, right, we don't. We don't understand the world for what
it is, and we developed thatthrough experience and through life. UM,
so you know, we can't alwaysexpect. We can't always expect younger generations
or children or whatever it is tounderstand sometimes and I think what's the most

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important part is is we need torecognize that we can't expect them because they
cannot empathize, especially through through somepretty serious They don't have the life experience.
They don't have it, so youknow, you can't get mad at
them for it. But you know, ron, I sat in a car
today for three hours in a parkinglot, and I thought about that question

(06:08):
for three hours. Um, Ijust I want to be remembered for the
man who tried you know, yep, for the man who tried to make
them damn it, bro for theman who tried to make things better.
That's it, just trying to makelight better. I tried to make all
my wrongs. Right. Is thata bad thing? It's never a bad

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thing. It's never a bad thing. And I hated that you sat in
the parking lot today. You know, I live a mile and a half
from you, right, But maybemaybe you needed to be alone. I
get that. That's why I didn'tanswer with you about it. I was
just, you know, I've beenthat a lot, man, Um.
You know it's it's man, brother, we got a really good thing happening

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right now, you know, Andand I am so damn blessed. There's
something Ron. We have a bigmeeting tomorrow. We can't tell you,
guys. I don't think we can. We can't even. I don't even
wouldn't tease it. I would,you can. You can tease that we've
got. We'll tease it in justone second. We'll tease it in just
one second, because I don't everwant to give the misconception, right.
You know, there's a lot ofthings that we find out about ourselves through

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time. And I mentioned this before, Ron. You know, I've said
I've gone years telling people do Ihave regrets? And I always said no.
It's like no, fuck, yeahI do, Bro, you know
I do. I gotta. Igot a sand of claus bag full of
them. But that doesn't make mea victim of them. And it doesn't
make me a consequence of that.Yeah, it makes me a reflection of

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possibility, you know, And that'swhat it is. It makes me reflection
that the most important thing is thatwith me. And I know there's people
in your life that are going throughfights and they're kicking ass. Yeah,
it's a matter of how we canlook at that, how can we develop
from it, right, or dowe allow that to imprison us for the

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rest of our life. And sowe go through this process, and you
know, sometimes, dude, I'lllose my breath. You know, I
lose my breath because there's things whereI could just say, God, if
I could just hit that rewind buttonand just maybe say this differently at that
time, you know, or maybeI should have just done this a little
bit more then, right. Butthat's every day. I think maybe you

(08:13):
probably go through it. I thinkmost people go through it. As we
become older parents and then we becomegrandparents or whatever it may be. We
go through the reflection of our lives. But you try to be better,
not than just what society expects youto be, to be better than what

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you expect out of yourself. Ioften do things you never thought you could
correct. I often worry about theregrets that are going to pop into my
head. If I'm given the opportunityto die slowly, Let's say, what
regrets are going to pop into myhead? What am I going to think

(08:56):
about that I should have done thatI didn't do throughout my life. And
you know what I know, Brianabout you is I know that when I
go into your house, you areabsolutely loved by your family and you are
one supported by your family, dude, And you know, honestly, as
simple as that silence, that's alot harder to find than people. Really.

(09:20):
Here's the thing, though, dude, it's a two way street.
It is a two way street.You know. I'm supported by them because
I support them, you know,I I I do what I can to
support them from a emotional standpoint,from a physical standpoint. And uh,

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you know, I do have myproblems, if you will that. It's
not the word I was looking for, but some people would call them problems,
but I do. I do havemy deficiencies, you know. Um.
And ultimately they love me for meand my deficiencies, and I love

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them for them, for them andtheirs. Ultimately, though, when it
comes right down to it, it'sa mutual respect thing. You know.
I kind of love you more thanmost people because of the Cadillac. The
day that you've got it, sweet, isn't it. Yeah. I just
want to give a quick shout out. We have a friend as a matter
of fact, Ryan, I thinkI might have told you about him today

(10:24):
or yesterday. He has known inYouTube as Dana Lore. His name is
Chris. I've known Chris for avery long time. Chris George Zuga.
He's a Canadian, you know.Man, Hey, I don't know what
I just said. I tried throwinga little the tail and Canadian. We
have a meeting. We're gonna bemeeting up with Chris here sometime by the
end of the month. Chris hasbeen in radio podcasting for years and he's

(10:46):
bringing it back to life. Andwe're honored to say that he's going to
be coming on to Odyssey Radio oniHeart. I joined in the Odyssey family.
And so we love your brother,you know. And here's the funny
thing, And here's a perfect example, Ryan, And when we talk about
abnormal normal in society politically, Chrisand I many things viciously, Yeah,
vicious, Lee disagree. But thecool thing about people like him and many

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of us in this circle is isthat you know, we can have our
views politically viciously. We can becauseyou know what, I believe that my
views politically have and are supported withintellectual thought. Right, Yeah, I
think that's what he appreciates, andI think that's what a lot of other
people appreciate. That thing differently thanme is that we can still be adults
and intellectual and disagree and even sayyou're a piece of shit and then five

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minutes later be drinking a glass ofScotch, smoking a cigar and giving hugs.
Right. So, Chris is oneof them kind of guys. He's
a good brother, and we're superlooking forward to him coming on in the
network. So we love you,bro, yeah, he says, Actually,
grandmost you know, you gotta letship be a little theatrical for radio.
Okay, you gotta say we disagreeon most things. So when we
bring you on, people are goingto expect us to fight or something.
Bro. I just want to makesure that I've sent that. I sent

(11:58):
that email too, sent that emailto where you sent told me to send
it. I hope he got it. If that's somebody else, Oh that
was somebody else. Okay. Yeah. We got things moving, folks,
We got things going, you know. So yeah, so I think,
um, you know, it's beena while, run. I missed you
last week was my fault. Imissed you, thanks, you know,
I wanted to bring that question upbecause I know I'm a very private person

(12:26):
for my personal life, right,not about I mean, obviously I'm not
private because I like freaking live streamalmost every day or something right multiple times.
But you know, I know thatthere's a lot of people and I'm
a proud guy, and you know, pride gets in the way sometimes,
man. You know, Um,I try to focus on the I'm shaking,

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bro. I try to focus onthe finish line and the direction that
finish line is in, such asyourself run right, because you and I,
man, we got a lot onour plate right now, and the
way for us to be successful we'regonna do is by staying focused on that
finish line. And we need tomake sure that everything on our left and
everything on the right isn't penetrating throughthe walls. Yeah, in creating a
tsunami about necessary. Thing I learneda long time ago was take the path

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of least resistance. If there areproblems in your life, find the path
of least resistance and take it.If you find I mean, this is
after you've fought for your you knowplace, or you fought for you know,
your position, if all else failsfind the path of least resistance and

(13:33):
take that, bitch, because itwill give you the relief that you're looking
for a period. What is itabout us dudes in our pride and shutting
down and because you know, dude, you you got a little I got
a little Philip syndrome and you gota little Stucci syndrome. You know what
I'm saying. Me and Ryder sittingnext to each other, and we're both

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like, we need hugs and shit, you know, we're pals, are
pouncing, we got anxiety, andneither one of us are going to be
like, yeah, bro, whydon't you tell me what's on your mind?
Because we're too proud. You know, we're too proper. We're supposed
to be men. We're supposed tobe fucking spartans. You know. Let's
take your shirts off. I'm nottaking my shirt off, dude. Let's
take our shirts off for the restof the show. No, you take
yours off. I'm not taking mineoff. Fifty dollars donation. I'll take

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a shirt. I do it rightnow. Hundred dollars, I mean no,
one hundred and fifty. Ryn willdo it. No, I won't.
Why not? I'm not always seeit right above your nipple, and
I taking my shirt off. Ithink it'll look good. I might get
a little turned on. Don't carewhether you get turned off or not.
I don't want anybody getting turned off, thank you. So no, I'm

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not doing that. I'm watching myselfreplay. I can't believe I did that.
Bro, You're gonna hate yourself later. You know, you always do
it. We talked about that yesterday. We told t K, I can't
listen to the shows. I can't, you know, I'll go, I'll
timestamp things and i'll go grab theclip real quick. Me and Ryn were

(15:00):
traveling. We're traveling on very longways. I think, yeah, I
think we might have made it througha couple of shows, but there's some
we made it like five minutes sayingand we had to change it myself and
then I don't fix it. Yeah. See, Yeah, anytime the mic
flips on, you go back toyour what works for you, and that's

(15:24):
fine. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I do all right,
So um let's do a little too. All right, folks, listen,
all right, listen up, everybody. We do have something we're gonna talk
about tonight, maybe after the breakthough apparently, so how much more time
do we got eight minutes? Well, so we're gonna this is all gonna
kind of segue all in. Thisis all gonna domino all the way till
they out on the show. FirstRon and I just want everybody to freaking

(15:46):
know that we love most of you. You know, Um at one you
two get out of the way atone you you know, No, I'm
kidding, Um, we appreciate youwhen we do this, man, I
tell you, you know, there'stimes where me and mine are looking at
each other and with all the stuffwe got going on, we're building,

(16:07):
we're scratched our heads sometimes we're bangingour heads on concrete. But you know
there's a reason why we do passionbeyond our means, right, because,
Man, I'll tell you there's sometimes where, man, we didn't know
where a comment are going. Andthere's there's a reason I'm going to say
it is because we are staying focusedon the finish line. We've had our
ups and downs in the last twoyears. Brother, We've had ups and
downs. Sometimes we took a leftand we should have thinken a right.

(16:30):
But that's just the way it goes, right. But we continue to pursue
forward. Ron calls me up yesterday. I need everybody to play close attention
because I can only tell you we'regoing to just careful. Yeah. Yeah,
we're going to only get a ticklethe nipple. We're not sticking it
in. Okay, you know we'renot talking about all right. We got

(16:51):
a meeting tomorrow. Wait, waitwhat I say? Topless? Please know
Topless show here, Brett, justfor you, bro right there. Um,
yeah, you're writing to run.There's nothing I can do to stop
you. So I don't know whyyou do it. And you're still casual
looking over there. I just dude, everybody's in my home. I'm just

(17:11):
y'all, come on in. I'mjust hanging out. So we have a
meeting tomorrow where we got a callfee meet it. Okay, long story
short, like we can't say theconcept. We can't say what it is.
But Ryan and I got a meetingthe bout being in a TV show
three episodes run? Is that whatyou said? I didn't say any.

(17:32):
I don't know you didn't say any. Why do I have that in my
head? I don't know. DidI say too much already? Probably no
idea. I just a TV show. I didn't say where that's true.
No, I mean we just don'tknow yet. I mean, we're we're
having the initial conversation tomorrow. Wellwe had a phone call, but we're
I did. Rocky is going tobe introduced to this person tomorrow and then

(17:56):
we'll have a little bit more conversationabout it, find out what the specifics
are. But let's just say theywere in need of a paranormal investigation team
for their TV show. Okay,just happened to know a couple of guys,
you know, and the dude reachedout to me because I've worked with
him in a different capacity, andhe says, hey, are you interested,

(18:19):
And I went, why, yesI am. Let me call for
a little more excited than that.Yes I was. I was because I
could. I could barely talk whenRocky when I got him on the phone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, youknow, Okay, you know,
I've been having a lot kind ofon my plate, you know, I've
been going on, and so Roncalls me, and you know, approach

(18:41):
is really important. You know,someone somebody calls me up and says,
you know, I need to talkto you. Are you sitting down?
And it's like hold on, whyare you talking shit like that for Why
don't you just go right through itand tell me. You know why you
gotta do the haul you sent downthing because that produces unnecessary anxiety, you
know. No, I said,I got something I want to talk to
you about, and you said,oh shit, let me get a cigarette.
That's what I said. That Iwent and I'll let him hang for
just a little bit. I'll lethim hang for just a little bit.

(19:06):
And then I said, it's notbad, dude, it's okay. Yeah,
oh okay. He let me hangfor like two minutes, and he's
like, Okay, check it out. It's a good thing. Go get
your cigarette, you know. No. So we're super excited and it's something
that I would have never expected,you know, Ron would have never expected.
Um, it's ran. It's weird, man, because it's it's like

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there's times when you start losing alittle bit of hope and then there's always
something that just kind of grabs you. Yeah. Um, God is a
weird way of kind of letting youknow that. He's like, hey,
we get a lot of there nextto you. We get a lot of
carrots dangled in front of us.This last year, we got a whole
lot of them, and none ofthem really pan that ship thrown on our
plate. Yeah, and and someof them never pan out. They just

(19:52):
don't for whatever business. That's okay. So folks, listen. You know,
if you're a salesman and you goout into the sales field, because
I used to do sales for awhile, expect a good salesman to close
about ten percent of his accounts,right, to close about ten percent of
his deals. Maybe less than that, maybe three percent. So in this
industry, when you're an entrepreneur,when it is solely up to your actions,

(20:18):
what you do or don't do isdependent on your bottom line, revenue,
sources, and know that other stuff. It's a numbers game. So
when Ron and I get invited tothings, we go, and we get
invited to a lot, and we'regoing to be going to a lot more.
And it's it's it's the circle ofcommunity. And this is what's important
about you know, everybody kind offinding people through life that you know that

(20:41):
you know what, that's your circleof people, or they come up to
you can sit down and do businesswithout even thinking about it. Right,
All these people that we communicate withhere in Dallas Fort Worth there when we
go to these events that they're allthe same people most of the times because
it's all the circle of people thatthey know that this is the safe zone.
There's no kind of artists here.And you know what, when those

(21:02):
little snakes come in, we sniffthem out like rotten dogs, you know.
And so it's a beautiful thing.So you need to continue to keep
shaking hands. You need to continueto keep her up and elbows. That's
business because it's a numbers game,like you just said, Brian, So
a lot of fun oops, alot of casts. The second one,
by the way, but oh youcounting all son bro all sons. Royan's

(21:22):
counting up bombs. I'm gonna dropa third because three's my lucky number.
Get after it. It's the fine. It's the fine that I have to
pay, So go right ahead.Yeah, so that's pretty cool, man,
Um I think. Yeah. I'mhoping for a great day tomorrow.

(21:44):
I really am. And we maycome out of tomorrow not still not being
able to say anything about it becausethere's a lot of discussion that needs to
be had, a lot of youknow, technically, and what I've learned
from like John Warden stuff. Lotsof times, even while you're filming,
you can't say anything up until theTV networks give actually they give you the

(22:04):
green light to say, start promotingbecause they don't want pre promotions, you
know, they want to start hintinglike the last two or three weeks because
I remember Destination fear yea, youknow, they got ahold of us,
and they says when you hear youknow, within a month of third date,
They're like, get ahold of usbecause that's the only time we're gonna
book it. Yeah, um sowell, and they and they make a
run. They make a media runright before the release of a new season.

(22:27):
Anyways, that's that's part of it, and that'll be part of you
know, if this all pans out, we'll be doing media before the release
of that you know TV show.So I'm gonna wear a cape. Yeah,
that's all I can say. That'sfine, dude. I mean I

(22:49):
might be able to fly, youknow, long as you're wearing something,
you know what I mean. Oh, I'm just wearing okape. Yeah,
that's what I was afraid you weregoing to say. And then I'm gonna
put lipstick around my Nipple's gonna makethem look really extra big. That's greatness,
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right? What? What? Oh? Wait a minute? Oh I was,
I was I film just do anything? Screwing me up? I'm thirty
seconds behind them. My god,you didn't flip the screen. They didn't
see my drums. Are you notwatching the live feedback from v mix?
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whatever. I still took it differentway, and those objects are not

(27:17):
haunted. Yeah, seguit for you, dude. That was smooth, all
right? So um oh I wasactually, um, so does Rocky with
my tumblers poop? Well? Myfriends? Um, I was actually watching
an old episode of um Haunted Collectorthe other day and oh, by the

(27:41):
way, TK, I know youjust made a comment on Facebook. If
you're watching this, we want totalk to you about something real quick.
I had the perfect it on.Okay, I had it on, but
you know see that uh look atlook at look at look at but see
mine's green. But the reason Rockiesisn't green is because, um no,
Rocky, they couldn't see you.All they can see is your background because

(28:06):
the green hat is showing through Rocky'sgreen screen back there. So it's right.
I had a hole in my head, bro, Yeah what was that?
So? Yeah, so I waswatching Haunted Collector the other day and
um I thought about it. Right, It's just like, you know,
we really haven't talked a lot aboutlike haunted items and and the possibilities of

(28:30):
haunted No, I've heard you talkabout items that either are at a location
or have been removed from a locationand carry something with it. Right,
I have one? Yeah, Ihave one? Is it that WEGI board?
No? No, no, No, that's not No, that's not

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haunting. Oh I thought it mightbe. What do you have? I
might just I might just start blamingthat thing for all my damn problems,
you know, I mean, likethat damn WEEGI board. No, Um,
um, that candle, that bigcandle holder I have downstairs. Oh
so um we've had that for yearscharged? Yeah. Um. We got

(29:11):
it from somebody who's gonna somebody diedin a house and it was like from
it in state sale. But nobodywanted it. And when I looked at
it, I was just like,what are you gonna do with that?
And then they're just they're just gonnago drop it off at like the Goodwill
or whatever. And I was justlike, but the second I touched it,
I knew it was charged. Iknew it was charged. So somebody

(29:33):
did not want that thing. There'sa reason why people didn't pick it because
it's not ugly. It's huge.The thing is a beast and it takes
the candle, the big you know, the big fatty Yeah, the one
with a lot of girth. Isthis made out of metal or wood?
The candle holder? It's okay,it's not wood and it's not metal.

(29:55):
It's like a stone. Oh oh, okay, is super heavy too,
Yeah, it's super heavy. Um, I think it's sexy. You know.
So what makes that haunted? Whatmakes that particular object haunted? Well,
so that's the question. Now.Now I can't I don't want to
sit here and answer like I'm givingyou like the real facts of what it

(30:18):
does, because I don't know forsure. But I'm curious about things because
I've always had this frustration to where, you know, well, when we
sit here and theorize, and whydo we try to figure out why location
actually has activity. I don't believejust because somebody died in a location that
that's going to make that location haunted. Now, the death could have created

(30:40):
maybe a portal, yeah, right, it could have created maybe an imprint
atmospherically, m maybe a residual imprint, Okay, but I don't necessarily think
I mean my god, man,if every place was haunted where somebody died,
you know, we're screwed this.We just live in a haunted planet
then, you know, haunted planet. But I've always wondered, could somebody

(31:02):
truly be attached to a physical objectso much in their life that they still
want possession of it and they're notwilling to cross over, you know,
yeah, and willing to travel withthat object rather than stay where they're at
Originally, well, you know,just like the homes when when we were

(31:25):
at the Fernhill House, you know, that kind of made sense to me.
Bro you know, because when Ifirst started investigating their like, please
let me explain it, because Ialways say that I think I made that
place worse. I investigated it fora year, but the first four or
five months were the most amazing experiencesI've ever had investigating. I mean,
like I was literally on a phonecall with these spirits. Um. But

(31:51):
it was different in the fact againtheorizing, but everybody identified at the beginning
a few months was all the originalpeople that built that home when it was
a single room, and then theybuilt it up. And these people they
used to help the homeless. TheyI mean they were a really really good
family and UM, so you know, in a weird way, you know,

(32:14):
I think about it. Let's sayyou transitioned and then there was somebody
there that that gave you a choicethat you can stay and you can wait
and you can be with your familyand spirit, but all your family are
all going to be stuck within therealm, right yeah? Um, or

(32:35):
you transition on, move on.I don't know, but I'm sure there
are some people because I always wantedto say that, I want to see
Grandpa Stucci, right, I wantto see Grandma again. I want to
know they're none. I want tosee my cousin Dina. Were they alive
while you were? Oh yeah,oh I had a Yeah. My grandpas

(32:57):
Stucci and I we had a great, super great relationship. Um. I
have grandparents that were not alive whenI had when I when I was,
they died many many years early.As a matter of fact, my my
great granddad, my mom's granddad,passed away before she was born, so

(33:22):
she never knew her granddad. Uh. And there are people like that that
I want to meet. Absolutely.There are historical people I want to meet.
There are family members I want tomeet that I have never known,
you know, Grant, I thinkit's fair, and you know, we're
frustrated because you know, we knowit was my great grandpappeal Um that came

(33:44):
from Italy. We know a boathe went on, and we know the
port he left on when he leftItaly. Yeah, but we don't know
nothing past that he was a freakingcriminal, your great grandfather, Yeah,
yeah, my great grandpa. Sothat was so. So you're family hasn't
been in America. We're second generation, no kidding, we're fresh, dude,

(34:05):
We're fresh, dude. My ballsstill small, Like Italy smells like
pizza, you know, like freakingricket thorns and a couple of meatballs.
You know. Yeah, have youever done the DNA stuff on? Like,
uh, I'm not giving none ofmy DNA U, not Amazon,
Ancestry, I did the DNA.Understand that Ancestry and all those other companies

(34:28):
admitted after how many freaking years thatthey do hand over your DNA to freaking
agencies. I'm not getting what arethey gonna do? What are they gonna
do? It's embedded in me doing, It's generational, it's embedded paranoia,
right, It's just ambid into mysystem. I ain't doing it. Ain't
got none to worry about it.Dude, I got clearance. I'm still
not giving up my DNA unless they'regonna clone me. I don't know what

(34:51):
are they gonna do. I Ultimately, I know I've got a lot more
people in my family than I thoughtI did, obviously, But dude,
we um, and I know wheremy sisters came from. What, Yeah,
we need to get my sister Paula. Oh and then and then he
heard the story my mom My momalmost died coming over here because my mom
came here when she was a baby. Yeah, how they had to freaking

(35:15):
hide out, you know, duringthe war and all this other stuff over
it's like, we forget that,and you know what, you appreciate your
life a little bit more when youhear the immense struggles that it took for
these our relatives to get where they'reat today, right, Um, Paula
and I think it was Vince.There was a house and I told you

(35:39):
about this house, Phillips. Itwas I believe it was in what Saint
paul and Paula has to come onthe show sometime to talk about this.
They found a room, they founda hidden room they found. Yeah,
well, no, no, no, no, it was the people,
don't no, Yeah, it wasPaula because she stills. Oh here they
had the wall, it was abrick wall. They bricked this room in.

(36:01):
And so when they got into thisroom, and guess what was in
there, old early nineteen it wasVince. It was Paula's boyfriend or partner
or you know that. You knowwhat I'm saying, that guy, you
know what I'm saying. Um,sorry, Paula. She said it wasn't

(36:22):
she said it was Van. Yes, so it was Paula. Correct me
if I'm wrong, early nineteen hundreds. And then there was a stack of
newspapers, and all the newspapers werereferencing like Bugsy seagull or some mafio so
guy right. And then there wasa whole bunch of brand new cigarette packs
that were still sealed from you know, early nineteen hundreds. And that was

(36:44):
that was that was bricked away inthat room, those cigarettes on that newspaper
in the table or whatever. Theyjust slept that stuff in there. See.
That's the thing for me, that'sthe thing for me is what why
my sister still has the newspapers?What made them that room up with leaving
all that stuff in there? Whydidn't they take it out? What did
they? Were they building a timecapsule on purpose? This house run To

(37:08):
my understanding, I've never been there. I was given the address is a
matter of fact. You know,we should take a drive up, you
know. But to my understanding thatthe apparitions in this house were so vivid
that Vince would sit in the livingroom and he would watch people walk by
him through his living room and theyweren't there. What there was multiple like

(37:37):
from different eras. And then Iwas the one that used to stare at
super haunted. Yeah, that indeedwild. And I wonder, bro,
I wonder you don't again, there'sso much to you know why that house?
You get what I'm saying, Yeah, Um, is something geological?
Is it? You know? Whatis it? But the newspaper you're gonna

(37:59):
tell me my sister, you wantto talk about haunted objects. My sister
just said she still has them.She still has the newspapers. She has
the newspapers that were locked away inthis room. I speculated that knocking that
wall down released something, you knowwhat I'm saying. But I'm not able

(38:20):
to interview anybody to know, didthis haunting happen before entrance was made into
that room? You know? Well, see the thing is is you don't
break instantaneously, so I don't knowhow you get something trapped in that room
if you're breaking up the wall.Right, But unless you're Mexican, unless
the objects in that room are whatthe spirit was hanging on to. You

(38:43):
know, you said it was newspapers, cigarettes, things like that. It
was newspapers that were all referenced towardsthe same person, Paula. Was it
Bugsy Siegell? It was some bigname mafia also guy because one of those
names was a big name in theTwin Cities because our family was really involved
in the bootlegging and they were allinvolved in all that stuff. So you

(39:06):
know, we probably knew a coupleof people in that house, you know.
You know she said built, Well, yeah, that's all native land.
West Saint Paul is all native land. Sal Saint Paul is all native
land, so you know, youcan pretty much go anywhere in West Saint
Paul, suth Saint Paul. Wedid. We went to Great Claude Island.
We went to Great Claude Cemetery.That's the first place I got an
Operation Shadow person. It's just weirdbecause you feel weird. You feel weird,

(39:32):
dislike Ron when we were up inMineral Wells. Yeah, you feel
weird. You know something weird aboutthat tone and maybe the imprinted energy I
know could be I'm just saying,Biller Rights Network. I believe that's the
brother right there that you sent theemail to today. What's going on?
Brother? So? Um? Yeah? Man? So it's so the haunted

(39:54):
things. So when I was watchingwas they went to this museum and there
was old Civil War swords on thewall. Okay, they didn't even they
didn't even consider any of this stuff, right, They were going in do
an initial base, just try totry to understand the haunting. There's a
little girl ghost who cried all thetime in the basement, hell to the

(40:22):
no to the no, no No. I ain't doing that ship, bro,
No, And I'm not going inthe basement to check it out either.
I'll be like, yeah, look, I mean you need something.
This entire season of Destination Fear wasa wild season, and that's because evil

(40:45):
figure that would scratch Vince's X.Yeah. In this particular season, they
didn't have flashlights with them when theywent to sleep alone. Right, Yeah.
Um, you couldn't get me togo and of those places with a
damn flashlight alone. You can't getme going there during the day. But

(41:06):
what I'm saying is is is ifif there is this haunted aspect to buildings,
could it also be that the objectsin that building are what's truly haunted
and not necessarily the building. Youknow. That's kind of where you would
almost kind of you know it,that's a good thought. I mean,

(41:28):
why else would they be there,you know, because it's not just because
they like the neighborhood. You knowwhat I'm saying. It has in these
people. Some of these people diedhorrific deaths. Why would they stay there?
Why would they be there? Still? Are they trapped? You know?
And there again too, like thegirl crying in the basement. My

(41:51):
initial assumption would assume that would besomething residual, such a traumatic moment,
you know what I'm saying. Thattime recorded it. Yeah, and it's
literally the parallel that it's recorded inis literally balancing within our existence and another
to where it just kind of crossesevery once in a while. Don't you
me me me, me, meme, maybe you get what I'm saying,

(42:14):
kind of going back and forth.Yeah, yeah I do. I
mean you don't like my own effects, Huh, I didn't, But that's
okay. It sounded like a babycry well. Um, dude, that
was actually the point. So yeah, but I can always tell when our

(42:37):
show spins off the rail. Dude, that was music to my ears after
my surgery. Oh, I'm sureit was. I recorded that that was
done studio style in my bath wasnot done studio style in your bathroom.
That had a little door slam atthe end of it. That was funny.
Ah, she boast a ball inthe homes bro. Yeah, I

(43:00):
see. Look things like your dadexperienced downstairs. Um again, I'm still
in that position where I want somethinglike that to happen in my presence,
not to me, but in mypresence enough that I can see it with

(43:24):
my two eyes and go okay.Now probably maybe preferably, maybe something happened
to somebody else, you know.Yeah, I mean, I'm not talking
about physical you know, touching andthings like that. I'm talking about apparitions.
Uh. You know, if eVince saw these people walking through the

(43:45):
living room, that's a pretty goodyou know, Um, it's it's it's
it's clear to me that Okay,there is something there and grand For the
record, we've been to the HillHouse twice and I've seen jack squat happen

(44:06):
there, but we do we didn'tdo it right though, brother, you
know. Okay, So the realityis this, if me and you were
to truly go to the Hill Houseand investigate, we would truly have to
do an all nighter, and itwill literally have to be like me,
you and one other person and seriousgame mode all night. I mean literally

(44:27):
to where we go to a pointwhere we go silent for an hour and
we all just sit somewhere. Yeah, all those different things, you know,
because if we're not going to hearfootsteps, and because we got all
these people get a whole bunch.I was watching some of the video the
other day when Brad came with usand I was in there trying to do
stuff with Kate. We're trying todo apps, and it's like I kept
hearing freaking Beth then the freaking kitchen, you know, as you kept yeah

(44:47):
Bundle's gums, and it's just like, Okay, the energy is wrong.
We're producing the wrong energy to gointo this as an investigation, right,
we're actually kind of like a partyright now. Well, leave it or
not. People used that kitchen asa safe haven once you went on the
other side of that curtain. Allthe lights were on, there was food
there, people were snacking. Itwas cameras you know, on the TV

(45:10):
screens from all over the house.I felt safe in the kitchen. I
felt safe in the kitchen, likewhen you walk in the back door,
you run to the kitchen, Yes, because you've got to clear that living
room, in that dining room first, and there's animals that are stuff that
are looking at you while you runthrough it. Well, that's my question.
Do you We got about six minutesleft. But my question to you
is would you consider that the objectsthat were in hillhouse because they they dressed

(45:36):
this house up. This thing hasfurniture, it has tons of objects in
it. It's a whole different worldother than in um What was that?
What was that that one room thepoker room, Because I think the poker
room had objects in it that werehaunted. Not a lot of them,
not a lot were authentic. ButI didn't I didn't hear or I didn't

(45:59):
hear the hosts of the house,say anything about objects there that were specifically
haunted. No, they didn't.They didn't point out any objects, And
you know that could be a thingto where part of the reasoning. I
mean, we know that there's somuch more because all the death, right,
no matter what, there was aton of death. So it's kind
of hard to decide for what thecause was. Um, but I will

(46:21):
I will reference when I investigated theStillwater Stillwater Prison Wardens House. Bro I
got so much man, they weretelling me that heaven is the ceiling they
were. The EVPs I was gettingwas incredible. Yeah, there was one
item now this Warden's house, andI'm referred to that's where the old Stillwater

(46:44):
prison was at. So it's nowa museum, you know, and say
hey, this is where it wasat. This, this is the Warden's
house, is where he slept,right, families. There was one item
in that Wardens house that was anactual item from that time, from that
location. Everything else in there wasdonated or they just got stuff from that
era just to make it give itthe look the theatrical book. But it

(47:06):
was haunted as shit. So againI don't it was one or two things
either all the little antiques that theybrought in, brought shit with it,
or that area is saturated. AndI believe it's the area because I was
getting EVPs from lumberjacks because still Waterwas actually going to be the capital of
Minnesota before Saint Paul was, andit was a lumberjacktown and so that's why

(47:29):
they, you know, the lumberjacks, still Water lumberjacks. So I was
getting EVPs of them talking about beinglumberjacks. Yeah, you don't get that
on radio, you know, youjust don't get that stuff on radio.
And I get an EVPs about alady looking for her child, and then
a child looking for his mom.I got an EVP and she goes,
he just wants his mother, andit was like, holy shit, he

(47:53):
just wants his mother. Well,where is he and where is she?
I could hook this ship up,but I need to actions, you know.
Okay, okay, so you know, yes, I believe items can
absolutely be haunted, but I believeI believe when items are haunted. Oh

(48:21):
so that show I was watching,they did the whole scale of the entire
museum before I forget, and theycouldn't figure out what items it was.
And then all of a sudden theywent to the swords and they checked the
EMF and all these different things onall the swords, and for some reason,
one sword that was made of allthe same material as all the other
swords in that room. So itwasn't a different type of metal that could

(48:43):
produce maybe something right like a magnet. It was the exact same And why
would that one specific item, nomatter were you brought it had a charge
to it. But you can grabit the other item and do the exact
same thing and have nothing, flatline, What is that? Yeah, I
don't know what could charge that becausethink about it. If it was electricity,

(49:09):
Yeah, electricity would just disintegrate,it would dissipate out right, because
it's a current. It's gone.It's not going to stay in that sword.
So what kind of energy stays inthat sword? Well, obviously some
kind of energy did see there RosieSky in the chat room. And now
we're running light on time, butwe're talking about haunted objects. Zach Begins

(49:32):
has a haunted museum and Rosie,Yes, Ron and I have not been
there, but Ron and I wouldlove to go there. Yeah, but
we would actually like to talk withZach and actually investigate. We would like
to like to get in there andinvestigate it. And so to my understanding,
it's not as easy as it sounds. So he's but you know,

(49:52):
if anybody can get shit done,you know, this is this is the
people right here. So you knowhome the time we got Phillip a minute
fifty seconds enough for you to talkabout custom tumblers. Why did you just
get louder on me all of asudden. I don't know. I didn't
touch anything, all right, Yeah, you know in sat tumblers dot com

(50:13):
get on over their custom designs.We got coffee cups, we got twenty
hours, we got all different kinds. You did a Sazuki one recently.
That thing is beautiful, dude,it turned out so freaking good. I
have all those of Zukis and Hondas, and literally it's so much easier because
I have probably in the tune aboutforty thousand images. All you need to
do is say I'm looking for something. I'm a Hartley guy. Okay,

(50:34):
give me two hours, let mego and I'll make something custom. You
know what I'm saying, Because Ialready have a lot of designs and I
could just kind of twist it,make it unique, and make it their
own. Ye. So you know, if you're interested, just let me
know kind of what you're looking for. I can throw you images I have,
or I can design one for you, but in sat tumblers dot com.
Love you guys, Yeah, fantastic. So guys, we will get
more information on our after our meetingtomorrow. Maybe we could pass it along

(50:59):
next week. I'm not certain ofthat yet, but watch our Abnormal Realities
facebook page, uh, the Odysseyfacebook page, and maybe we can post
something out there as well. I'mexcited about it, I know, Rocky
is. It's one of those thingsthat we just happen to be in the
right place at the right time,and our fingers are crossed. There is

(51:20):
no question about that. So hey, thanks for joining us tonight. Dude's
fingers crossed A good finger bad there, because you know, when you tell
a lot of somebody, you crossyour fingers. Also, that's like neutral
soul. Yeah, I get it. I hear the music. Hey,
I love you guys, so doesRon. Yeah. I gotta get over
here. I don't know why I'mnot here here, It is there,
It is all right, guys.We'll see you next week. Love you,

(51:45):
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