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Peanut butter. It just fills thecracks of the heart. Safety never takes
a holiday. Welcome to Kevin James. Never start a retrospective of all Kevin
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James's past movies and present movies andunfortunately future nonsense. I'm Robert Bacon,
and with me, as always aremy co hosts Free Maloney and Caleb George.
This time we watched Kevin James twothousand and twenty four Amazon Prime special
irregardless the format, we already watchedthis spoilers and we all just finished watching
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this independently. Yeah, and we'rehere to talk about it. A couple
of facts before we start talking aboutit. This was released on January twenty
third, twenty twenty four. Itcurrently sits at a three and a half
star rating on Amazon Prime out offive. I think that's a little high.
And Kevin James a reminder, Kevinjames real name is Kevin George,
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Canip Thing, Canipping, Nip NipThing. I think before we started recording,
Bacon and I were just chatting andwe were talking about I was talking
about how I was tuning out likewatching because this is so bad. But
I started Kevin talks a lot abouthis family. So I was like looking
up stuff about him and his family, and I saw that his real name
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was his real last name is nipThing, and I was like, Damn,
that name is so bad that itmakes sense that he goes by Kevin
James and his brother goes by Valentine. He picked the last name Valentine,
which I think his brother picked abouther name last thing. Kevin James was
born in nineteen sixty five, soyou know, there's a lot of gray
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area between like when generation starts,but the most I found nineteen sixty five
is actually technically the start of GenerationX and the end of Baby Boomers.
So getting right into it, youknow, we always say like this is
boomer humor or stuff like that,and now I'm just starting to think that
it's really just kind of like acultural thing, because that's all this is
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about. Kevin James is just onstage being like everything now sucks. Everybody
knews sucks. I am from thebest generation. We had it awesome,
it was the best, but alsoit was the hardest and also you had
to be tough to get through it. Not everybody can get through it.
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And also I'm cool and you suck. Oh, and you suck, and
everything you do is suck and yousuck. It's really it's just tired.
It's a tired take. It's exhausting, it's just rocking back, and I
hate so much. The second hewalked down on stage to that fucking song,
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I was like, this is socringey. And then I was in
between just like cringing and bored.The rest of the time. I would
have taken board because I was mostlyjust like I just angry, just constantly
angry. I to your point,Mary Bet or not Mary Beth, your
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name's not bary Bet, Marie,I'm so tired of you has been scrambled.
I truly hated this stand up toyour point, Marie. He comes
out on stage and like the lyricsare like natural bored killer, and he's
like rolling around and dancing and allthis stuff, and I'm like, why
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did you pick this music? Whydid you pick this music? It doesn't
match at all, doesn't match anyof his set like anything. What did
What did he write at the topof his set list for coming out?
I wrote Paul Blart around. Hejust Paul Blarts around. Yes, he
rolls, he kicks to this song. I'm gonna play a fraction of this
song. The detail this band islike doing a knockoff of Imagine Dragons,
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Like, I mean, it's Ithought about a dragon. Yeah, they
truly are truly are badly yeah,badly drawn dragons. Drawn dragons. That's
a great name, so badly drawndragons. He comes out, starts Paul
blarting around kicking. To be fair, he can kick really high. He
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really actually is surprisingly flexible. Idid have that thought like three times.
It goes like, yeah, he'squite flexible, and it's straight that can
streight was like, I was like, it's right behind the side your head.
I mean I think that's that.That's where it all kind of stems
from, right that he's like abigger guy, but he is, like
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he does have athleticism. Athletics,yeah, and they can move. And
to be fair, he looks good. He looks like he does look really
good. I wanted to call thatout. Yeah, even though he does
look like a fat Joe Rogan becausehe's what approaching sixties. That is that
I think he's fifty eight. Imean, hair dye will do it for
you for sure on the beard,But like, and he's a good ship.
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Yeah, and he's in good shape, like for approaching sixty for sure.
Yeah. He's just a mean,bad person as far as oh yeah,
that's the problem with how he looksor like, that's nothing with that.
I like. I don't like him. I don't like the character of
the person is the problem. Yeah. A lot of his stand upy tangents
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I felt just kind of like,like we all know, like stand up
kind of structure where you like havea topic and like you it goes for
a little while and then you kindof like reset and like a new topic.
I just felt like they were someandering. And at one point he
was telling a joke about like beingpre diabetic, and the audience was clapping,
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Oh my god, like whoo whoo. The audience or the audience has
another problem. Why are we clappingfor pre pre diabetes? I what,
I'm pre diabetes too. Yeah,yeah, whooo we all are whooo woo.
You have to be to get aticket. One of the things that
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he touched on first that I thoughtwas kind of gonna be a theme was
fear and that we shouldn't be scaredand there's nothing to be scared of,
and the only time you should bescared is when you're at war essentially,
And then yes, not, butfifteen minutes later he's talking about how scary
it was to hit a deer withhis giant truck and how shaken he was,
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how shook, how fearful he was. Okay, that's a little weird.
Maybe he's playing with that. No. Then later he goes on to
talk about how you need to beatyour kids in order for them to have
any kind of discipline, because fearis the only way that you can control
people. Only a moron would putall of these together as some sort of
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jokes. What you said before goesagainst what you're saying now. You are
just rambling nonsense. Yeah, youcrazy old man, because there's no consistency,
there's no it doesn't feel like anythingis thought out. I mean at
some point, at some points duringthis special, like he just just starts
screaming noises like and drives me crazy. After he's basically like talking about how
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much he hates his wife for forever. Oh my god, he's like forever.
He said, my wife talks toomuch, and then proceeded to talk
about how she talked too much forten minutes. Yes, and prior to
that was like, I love mywife because she talks when I don't want
to talk. Ah, so you'reyour wife. When your wife is useful
to you, then that is agreat trait. But when it's not,
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shut the fuck up. It wasso insulting. How every moment in this
stand up he's constantly insulting his kids, his wife, Like I'm like,
dude, you're responsible for these children. They are the way they are because
of your parenting. So in onebreath you're like, well, if you
beat your kids, they'd be goodkids. But my kids are a piece
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of shit, So where did yougo wrong? Like, the thing that
is frustrating to your point, Baconis like there's there's no consistency and none
of it is thoughtfulness in a waythat makes you like there's no depth to
any of it. It's just allplaying dumb jokes of like a seventeen year
old sense of humor, and Ijust lost interest. Slash kept getting so
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furious. Also, it's made upmanufactured anger because half the time it's bullshit.
Half the time it's such clearly bullshit. Example, anyone who's played VR,
has played the game Job Simulator,it's basically like packed in. It's
like one of the first good VRgames and I've played VRS that game,
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and what he explained isn't how youplay it. You don't sit around.
It's not realistic. There's not fifteenminutes in between customers coming, like he
explained it. Nothing that didn't happen. Nothing of what you explained happened.
You're full of shit. You're anold man yelling at things that didn't happen.
It's insane. Well, that's whyit's lazy. Because he also talks
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later about how like, well youknow now in kids baseball they don't keep
score, and I'm like, that'snot true. There are more select baseball
teams now than when you grow upgrew up. There is more World Series
Little League teams than when you grewup. There is Baseball is more competitive
as a younger age now than whenyou played it. You fat, stupid
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piece of shit. And I judgehis weight because I'm just so pissed off
him. I just hate how muchhe punches down to everyone. Yeah,
and he's the only one who's likeand I kinda he kind of makes fun
of himself a little bit, andhe's like I'm stupid. I'm stupid.
But that's like momentary before he thenshits on somebody else. That's like I
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just two minutes before he called himselfstupid, he was giving us all life
advice. He was like getting likereally serious and being like, this is
what you have to do. Youjust have to pitch. Listen to me.
I know what the answer is,just pitch, just do it,
just get it done. Anyway,I'm a moron. I don't know one
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thing and that's about boxing. Andthen what a what a please clap moment
when he started talking about boxing andnobody in the audience reacted and he's like
right am I right? Yeah.Well, also he contradicts himself where he's
like like my dad helped me inthat moment where he gave me the best
advice. It was like to justpitch, to just focus. And then
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he was like, you know,my dad in his like later years wanted
to like talk to me and likeimpart knowledge and I was just like meh,
not interested. And it's like maybethat was a callback to like what
his son said, but I don'teven know if he realized that now.
And it's like, Okay, you'reresponsible for your own stupidity one and two,
Like you talk about how stupid youare, but you talk about how
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wife, how stupid your wife isfor like speaking and being knowledgeable about stuff
and like talking to people at partieswhen you're fucking moron and can't, Like
what do you want? Do youwant her to be articulate in talk or
do you want her to shut thefuck up and get back in the kitchen,
Because you basically are saying you wantboth, and that's not right or
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fair or okay. And you're sayingyou're a stand up comedian, but you're
saying that you're bad at speaking andyou don't like to talk to people.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense,Kevin James. Then you have all the
people come up on stage afterwards andyou hang out with them and like act
like you're partying with them. Whichis it? Do you hate hanging out
with people and you can't talk tothem or are you one of the most
charismatic people alive? Which one isit? It's just cheap jokes, That's
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all it is. That's all itis. It's just cheap, like unthoughtful,
like lowest common denominator. Joe.Remember when he got a cheer for
saying that doctors are bad. Doyou remember that? Do you remember that?
Yeah? I do remember that part. It was so it was like
the clapping for pre diabetes. Yeah, what it's like doctors don't know anything?
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Yeah they are? Yeah. Wow, can't make me stop drinking?
Doctor my liver's fuck, I'm yellingguy. One of my favorite lines in
a way that I was like,what was There was a moment where he
was like, he was like,kids aren't good at anything. You're not
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good at anything. Kids suck,They suck at everything. Blah blah blah.
You don't how to do this.You don't know how to do this.
You can you roll a cigar?That is one of the things that
he was like, kids can't doanything. Can you blah blah blah?
Can you blah blahlah? Can youroll a cigar? And I had to
be like, I'm sorry, doyou value kids by whether they're capable of
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rolling cigars? So? Can youroll some cigars for me? Kid?
Or I'll hit you with a belt. This is funny, everyone, This
is funny. This is comedy allthe way. By the way, I
don't have any allergies. Everyone whoayes, because I drank from a hose.
Because I drank, I don't haveallergies. I'm like, that's not
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how this works. The correlation,the correlation and causation pipeline on that joke
is really mind boggling, insane,insane. Drove me crazy. I really
like the moment I just was like, oh, I hate this was the
moment he started talking about kids,and he talked about time out and all
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that, and then he goes,yeah, talking to your kids, what
a loser? Like that was themoment that society changed. Was was like,
oh, I'm sorry that basically helpingkids understand their emotions makes someone a
fucking loser. We should just beatthe fuck out of anyone we disagree with,
Like, we should just beat theshit out of people with belts all
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day long. That's all we shoulddo. That's clearly your solution here,
because like, the ability to masteryour emotions is something that only pussies do.
Yeah, and it's like, whatare we doing here? What are
we watching? How are we doingthis? Why are we doing this?
This man should not have a podiumto stand up on, because at least,
if you're gonna talk like this,at least be funny at least,
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like, yeah, do something new, because it felt like I was reading
email forwards from two thousand and six. It was the same jokes. At
what point does I don't have anyallergies not be funny to you anymore?
If you find that funny? Likewhat how many years? How many decades
do you hear this joke? Toyour point, Bacon, you said,
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like this sounds like email forwards fromthe early two thousands, Like that's what
that's the shit our parents were sendingto like their friends and each other.
So how is Kevin James, assomeone who's on the cuffs of gen X
doing this boomer bullshit because he's alive? Embarrassing, he's a liar. Do
you think he hits his kids?Do you think he ever kids with?
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He's full of it. I thinkhe's full. I think he's playing to
the audience that likes those jokes exactly. I think at some point he is
getting the feedback right, like he'she's not testing his material in nightclubs in
New York anymore, Like that's notwhat he's doing. He's in Arizona with
his boy Rob Schneider exactly. He'sdoing the rivier in Carson City, like
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you know, like there's just likehe's doing certain areas that are going this
is a feedback loop. He's beingtold by his audiences, this is funny
when you put it on a speciallike, well, now you're reaching audiences
that aren't the jackasses that you're usedto that would laugh at that sort of
thing. And it's awful. It'sterrible. Yeah, And I mean that
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kind of gets the core of likethis whole podcast in general, both like
Kevin James and Adam Sandler and theSchneider and all of it, where it's
like these men are talented, likethey started out with like genuine true talent,
but like we've kind of just watchedthem regress and like play towards the
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center where they could step up andlike do something, do something news,
do something exciting, like push pushthemselves and push others like forward and be
trailblazers. But they're just like,Hey, I can't wait to play the
rialto Square Theater and Juliet and dothese tired ass hack jokes for Middle America
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for the rest of my life.And that's a bommer. It's a bomber.
Yeah. I saw George Carlin twoyears before he died, and he
was sharp and funny and witty andprogressive and all of those things. It
is you are capable of aging andalso remaining sharp and socially you know,
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aware, and like like we areseeing just the grace of the aging from
people like Colbert or Stewart right likethese you know, Steve Martin and Martin
Short, Like we're seeing people agegracefully and still be funny even if they're
a bit outdated, even if they'renot in their prime anymore. And it
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just is like, you're not seventydude, Like you're not eighty years old.
You're still fairly young. But thishumor just it clashes for me.
It's a weird cognitive dissonance for me. That's why it's less of it's less
of a generational thing to me,because like, honestly, like we you
know right now, we make funof boomers all the time, and I
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know tons of people in the babyboomer generation that don't think this specific way.
It's more of like an ideology thatKevin James and people have latched onto.
And it's this thing of like wheneverI was born, that was the
best time and that was the mostawesome time, and everybody after me kind
of sucks. And I hate thateverything's changing and they don't have enough self
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awareness to realize that their generation beforethem thought the exact same thing about them.
Because hopefully every generation is getting ita little bit easier every time,
because now we don't have to livein horse drawn wagons and get pulled across
the Oregon Trail. Like, justbecause you were born in a time with
paint chips and nobody paid attention topaid attention to you, doesn't mean that
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you were some fucking trailblazer. Allright. There was the wild West before
you, there was the Middle Ages. Read a goddamn book. Everything changes.
Every generation thinks the next generation issofter. You are a moron.
You are not saying anything original.You are pp Get off the stage.
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That's what I joke. Whoa,he's a pepe wo ip. The doctor
say I shouldn't save it in jars, but I do. Hey, anyone
have a huge prostate these days.He's doing a participation award joke again.
Oh my god, patient award joke. I've heard this from three comedians this
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week, and I'm excited to hearit from him though. I need when
we started this, after the firstjoke, we all knew the participation trophy
joke was was coming. Of courseit was. Yeah, I think Sandler
had one in his fucking specialty backwhen we watched it. Also, the
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joke of when you're going to deleteyour apps and then you hit it and
then they all start wiggling and they'rescared. I've heard that joke somewhere else
you have, Yeah, that jokehas been around for a while as well.
That's like iPhone for jokes, Likewhen we first started doing that.
I enjoyed his physicality on that.Yeah, it was nice to see him
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hustle. I mean truly. Theone positive thought I did have was like,
there is some funny here, likeit it is easy to see that
he has some timing at times andthat they're physically like he knows how to
like get the bit, get themost out of a joke. Sometimes it's
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just the rest of it's lazy,all of it. Yeah, so lazy
lies. I mean everybody kind oflike when you watch stand up, you're
like, Okay, not all ofthis is one hundred percent truth. It's
all just like part of the joke. We're going through this. Yeah,
it's taken, like a nugget oftruth taken, and a joke is built
based on that. It's usually builton or the foundation is built on truth
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at least, or like idea thatyou're trying to go forward. In order
for his to even work, hehas to make up a made up world
where like these things happen to makehim angry, because like, really,
in all reality, how hard isthis man's life? He is, he's
the definition of mid and he's somehowa millionaire and he's so lucky, so
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lucky, this man to have soaverage of talents and to have such a
large stage and he doesn't realize it. And maybe that's the tragedy and America,
that's the real tragedy. That someonecan rise from mediocrity is really the
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tragedy in America. I think thething about like telling lies, I had
to struggle with that in my brainLewis because I'm like, well, I
know, I know that people exaggeratejokes, like I know, you know,
Hassan, you know whatever, whateverwent through that, like, well,
he kind of a Jagguary joke.And I kind of always been like
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yeah, but comedians exaggerated jokes.That is different than being like this is
an easy fact check, like yeah, this is easy. What cheerios may
reduce cholesterol? Really? And I'mlike, yes, really, yes,
I don't know what to tell you. Yes. Also it's like okay,
welcome to I don't know, beingfucking advertised to for our entire fucking lots,
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like are you for real? Ofcourse of course they say that.
Yeah, they can't say it forsure, like cures cholesterol, because then
they get in troubled a f DA. So it might, it might.
It depends on a lot of factors, but it can. So what are
we arguing about here? What's thejoke? I'm upset that there's gray areas.
Everything needs to be black and white. Smoking may may cause cancer.
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Gravity's a theory, like come on, come on, come on, It's
just stuff like that that you're like, yeah, man, just think a
little bit more about this, likethe when I say Low's comming in on
me, Like that's the shit thatwas driving me crazy. I'm like,
just think, like us, justa little bit more about this line.
Just think a little bit more aboutthis joke and how it it's not a
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joke because it actually makes sense,Like it actually makes sense. Caleb's dejected
too, fucking we're all ingree anddejected. I wrote down eighteen minutes in
and he's still talking about the borderlineanemia, borderline diabetes, borderline anemia.
That the first fifteen to twenty minutes, it was still on that on borderline.
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And again, pre diabetes is notyou don't have diabetes. Like it's
just like, again, that's theway he took it. That's the way
he took it. He left thedoctor, look up anything, man,
google it. He doesn't have Google, just fucking look up anything, just
doing else a research dude. It'sso frustrating. It's just so frustrating to
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watch him all of it, allof it. Yeah, taking his kids
video games away, I mean,good god, it was like watching a
time capsule being opened up in frontof me. Yeah. And also,
obviously the joke doesn't work if thisis reality. But it's like, if
your kid has that bad of likea we're like, he's constantly playing video
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games, it's on you to stickto your guns and say no. I
said no video games. That meansno VR, no video games. So
you're he's just hammering home. Howbad a fucking parent he is by buying
his kid a VR set when healready established like he was grounded from video
games. So which is it?Kevin? Like, you're hard, you're
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soft, You're a good parent,You're a bad parent? What the fuck?
Like? I shrug, I don'tknow. At what point does Kevin
James google anything? Like? Likehis son tells him that he wants a
meta quest and he's likely. Idon't know what it is, but I
just put in my credit card,Gone, it goes here it is,
and now I'm confused. Good lord, dude, how do you How did
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you get to the theater today?How did you do that? And and
I my truck? Did I hita deer? Oh my god, I
got a new I got a bigold rental because I hit the deer.
Deer got the new cyber truck,split a deer in three. And my
favorite part is, well, mykids are addicted to games, but I
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gave him an occulus. You've seenthis, you see this anyway, And
I'm like, oh no, no, you you said your kid was so
addicted to games it was as ifhe was a crackhead. Yes, that
is what you insinuated. That iswhat you said about your own child.
And there's never a moment in thisstand up where he goes, you know,
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I make fun of my kids,but there were the love of my
life, and like here it is, and there's so much joy you could
find in just children, Like somany stand up comedians have been like,
you know, my kid does thisand it's amazing, and like, oh,
I think so kids are so funny, like an intuitive like desire to
like understand the joys of children orraising or being a parent. This is
just mean, this is just blood. Yeah, he just doesn't like his
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family, is the takeaway I gothere. Yes he didn't even say anything
about his daughters. Really, He'slike, yeah, no, they were
fine and nothing. And then hejust ripped like there's right. How about
jokes about your kid being addicted tovideo games and like maybe a joke about
when you knew it was a problemor a joke you know, like find
something in that, because otherwise Ialso don't believe you. I think I
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don't know if he was really addictedto video games. I don't know if
you pay attention much to your son'slife. This is what it kind of
sounds like. You sound like abad parent. You sound like an awful
person to be around. Also,I feel like I'm like thinking more about
this, and it's almost like thesejokes are about his kids. It's particularly
and his wife are so mean.It's almost like he like romanticizes like the
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time before having a family and likethis is just the thing he did because
it felt like everyone else was justlike getting married and having families. Obviously
I'm reading a lot into that,like psychology, but like I think it's
accurate. I'm but four kids hehad, He has four kids, and
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his wife is hot as fuck.But she talks. But she talks all
the time. She talks all thetime, and when when and when I
don't want her to, when Iwant her to. I love it when
she when she wants to talk onher own, have her own when I
don't benefit from me personally for her. Yeah, these people are his family
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are objects, and he almost likeresents that they're people. Again, I
don't believe in this bullshit that he'slaying out there. I don't believe that
he actually thinks this about his family. I yeah, it's just knowing.
I think he's playing it down liketo his audience, who doesn't like their
family to you know, Oh,my kids don't like me. They stop
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talking to me. I don't knowwhy. You know, I say what
I want to say and they getupset. I think that's who he's talking
to, because again I don't believethem. You know, he talks about
like beating your kids is the wayto treat them, and he's never he's
never done that. He's full ofshit. The dude, that's why I
like it makes me mad is becausehe's just propagating this fucking bullshit lie to
was stupid audience, just to feedthis insecurity inside all of them. Yeah,
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and also if he did any researchat all, he would know that
being a wife guy is where it'sat. Yes, everyone loves wife guys.
Wife guys in nobody's about. Nobody'slike, ah, I hate my
wife. Then you sound like anidiot. You're the person who married them.
I don't know. I've only beenmarried, not even two years,
but it's really easy. But you'rea big time wife guy, big wife
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guy, big wife guy. Thisguy I love. Audiences are like me
too. I hate my wife whenshe talks. Yes, he's just feeding
into that. Does he have aproblem with his wife talking too much.
There's no way Kevin James doesn't shutup right. Yeah, So I don't
know you guys in anything else youguys want to talk about. This episode
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was just such a this episode,this stand up special, It's just this
episode. I hated recording this withyou guys sucked ass. I hate it.
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. No, I had agree time
with you. You know what Ifeel about it. We started it was
raining outside, it was dark,and now it's bright and beautiful. You
know, the storm is passed,just like Kevin James floated over us and
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it's Paul Blarkness. Yeah, whatwas that song? What did it say?
Like? I'm a rebel d dude, natal born cute, cute by
the way, work. It's likeevery song for every fucking Ford fifty.
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I think this might in a carcommercial. Oh my god, it is
that. I heard it's in thecyber truck commercial running people over Natural Cale
Caleb good Ear. I really thinkthat this is in a car commercial,
a Ford f one fifty commercial,one of my truck commercials. What can
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I say, I'm a big truckback, I'm a truck commercial. Offisian
the New Ford f one fifty hasfifteen thousand pounds of book. Come on
down to Ford sales days, APRfinancing didn't imagine just like this on the
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stage, like rolling around like openPaul, she was new boot blartan So
what do you guys say, KevinJames, Uh, go to hell?
Yeah, definitely never start or orjust google stuff. You're just google Google
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Google it, bro google it.If you have the most basic thought in
your head to craft a joke around, just like do a quick Google.
Half of these aren't even Googles.Half of these are Hay series, that's
all. They're not even pull upanything you know, no but bacon.
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Then he would do like a howSiri always like messes up and like can't
get can't get what you said right. They say she's a smart assist,
but she's not very smart. Ihate doctors. There it is just says
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ship until they cheer and he writesit down and that's for the special.
There you nailed it, led it. So we'll say, Paul Blart google
it all right, Paul Blart,google it. Even amidst all of this
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success, you were still cranking inyour head. This may not last.
They're going to find me out eventually. Well that's my whole career. I
think my whole career. You knoweverything, every movie, you just go
there. You're gonna figure. Ifsomeone literally tapped me on the shoulder,
God just said, hey, weknow what's going on, right, I'd
go, yep, where do Igo? Where do I? So?
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All right, there's a fun run. No not your no love