November 18, 2024 • 24 mins
Pliny and Daniel travel down to deep south Texas, practically Mexico, for another hunt in Laguna Atascosa National Wildlife Refuge. This is the first hunting day in the refuge (the previous day was just scouting and grocery shopping) and the second episode of our semi-live series. Stay tuned for more!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, what's up y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome back to the Adventure one podcast and I guess
part two of our Laguna Attascosa National Wildlife Refuge.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hunt Friday Friday Friday, Dude, Today, today was a really
tough one for me.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I mean we've talked about it some manytimes, the
ups and downs of bowt hunting today.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Public lane, Yeah, on public land. It's just it's tough.
It is a it is a hard thing.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I talked to my kids after we got back tonight
and I was telling them, my eight year old daughter,
I was telling them about the hunt. My eight year
old daughter's like, we why don't you just use the rifle, Daddy.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, it make it way easier. You're not wrong, I
just can't well.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And I guess that leads into say, the spot where
you were sitting this morning would have been the perfect rifle.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
My gosh.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So we had we had found a spot yesterday that
we had seen some Neil guy, those ten Neil guy
we talked about, and we'd seen kind of the trail
where they went from the field into the woods. So
I went this morning found that trail and by the way,
it was a monster trail. Looked like a cattle trail
like there was. It was probably a foot wide and
completely down. There's hoof prints everywhere, and I was like,
(01:15):
all right, I feel pretty good about this. There wasn't
a ton of it's like in a ditch, so there
wasn't a ton of like visibility because of the way
all the trees were. So I sat in this mesquite
tree up on the back side of the ditch, and
I was probably about twenty yards away from the trail
where they'd be coming in off the field. And I,
from a bohemming standpoint, it's a great shot, but I
(01:35):
felt like I was a little too close. Yeah, And
I wanted to get further back, but the only other
play was sitting in the ditch. I'm like, I don't
want to do that because all my visibility goes away.
So I ended up sitting there and I saw for
probably nothing for the first hour, and then at eight o'clock, no,
probably like what.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Seven thirty, I was texting you seven forty five.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, I saw a cow just pop out out of nowhere,
and she was when I first saw her, she was
about eighty yards away.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So she must have just been bedded down. I think
she was just bedded in the field. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
What's funny though, because I ran thermal on the whole
field and couldn't see her. But that grass is super thick,
Like you know, they'll lay down and disappear.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, they're in thick, wet, three foot tall grass. Yeah,
stuff can just absolutely disappear.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So I was waiting and she kind of looked like
she was meandering towards the trail, so like, man that
there might be a shot here, And then she ended
up heading up further away from me, and she got
out to about one hundred and sixty yards away, and
she was just kind of eating the challenge. I kept talking,
I was texting, playing like I may make a play,
but I don't think I can because I'd have to
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go down this ditch back up the other side and
then it's just all field, and like, there's no way
she's gonna let me get close enough to take a
shot at her. So I just kind of waited, and
then I saw her sit around. She grays gray's gray.
She came back towards me and she was about eighty
yards away and just laid down. I'm like, okay, this
is fine. She'll lay there for a while. If she
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puts her head down, then maybe I'll try to go
make a place she never did. By the way, this
is what's crazy about these animals. She literally sat with
her back in the wind so that she could smell
what's behind her and had her eyes just scanning the
area in front of her. I'm like, dude, like there's
no play to be made here, yeah, and like probably
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she laid there for ten fifteen minutes, and then I
saw about three hundred yards out to the left of
her two cows and two calves, and it was actually
kind of cool. The caps will like messing with each
other and like running around place chase each other, and
so this whole time, you want to tell your story
and we'll go back in my initial I guess get
(03:44):
in and set up was pretty uneventful.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Got off the bike, walked in through some really spiky
grass that was just stabbing me the whole way, but
that's just part of it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So got in then.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think it was one of those little acacia trees
just kind of nest back under that and I have
a little like half half sized pop up lines just
basically two triangles that you put in front of you.
Got that all set up, and then was sitting there.
Then riots start seeing some light. I caught a little
flicker of orange and realized there were there were two
guys who I think maybe they had got there right
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before we did.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I saw their bikes because I went a little further down.
I saw their bikes. Yeah, I never passed their bikes.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I was kind of surprised by it, and then saw
them and they were sitting right on the top of
a little ridge, not the I feel like normally, well,
we'll always sit on the military crest of a hill,
so it's like not on the tippy top, but just
on one slope or the other, so you're never silhouetted.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
These guys were right on top. Yeah, oh yeah, man,
they were. They were very obvious.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And the rule down here is that you have to
wear a hunter's orange, which is unusual for bow hunting
a lot of times. Bow hunting is like the exception
in general. But you have to wear hunters orange anytime
you're moving, but if you're settled in place, then you
can remove it. So that's what I did. But they
had their orange on the whole time. And I noticed
the guy with shiny sunglasses. He was looking around, short sleeves,
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his arms were white, and so they were standing out
on the yeah, and just with arms.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah. So they just weren't very sneaky.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And you know, this is a fairly easy hunt to
draw until it's a lot of people's first you know,
a hunt like this. It was mine, yeah, several years ago.
But I think there's a lot of people who just
don't really know what they're doing with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm convinced he had a crossbow, by the way. One
guy had a compound. I saw one guy.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I didn't see what the other guy had, but they
sat there and then I just every once in a
while it was just I was pretty much in the
binos like the whole time, just looking around and everyone
saw I just look at those guys. What's crazy is
I was one hundred and sixty eight yards from them
and they had no idea what was there.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, that was pretty close, and that was probably then
for me.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It was probably maybe three hundred yeah, to the left
of me.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And at one point I saw them, like I could
tell they had just been looking around and see them
waving their arms and pointing and just like very like.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Not something they're sitting like together.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, and then I see them pack
up head back towards their bikes and then walk and
I could.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Almost eight o'clock in the morning, Yeah, eight o'clock, which,
by the way, like I think sunrise was at six
forty five this morning.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, so they're.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
An over an hour hour in Yeah, and they start
walking back to their bikes. So I don't know if
they were giving up or if they were just trying
to hit some other area. Either way, everybody else has
settled into their spots. They get up, and then right
when they reach their bikes, I see one guy like
starting fantically waving his arms and pointing, and then they
like hustle back to the bushes, and I could almost
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I couldn't hear anything, but I could almost just imagine the.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like, oh look, there's almost get back there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
They hustled back, and then they disappeared in the bushes
for a little while, and then they just walked out
on the trail.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And this is all happening right after I saw those
two caps and calves and all of a sudden, those
two cows and calves, so I saw going towards where
they were because Plenty's like, hey, they're on that mound.
They're headed right towards those guys. They're heading right towards them,
and then they peel off. I couldn't really see him,
but they took off. And very shortly after that, that
cow that I was kind of tracking, she had stood
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up and she was grazing again, and dude, I was
fired up. She found the trail that I was sitting on.
She's still probably sixty sixty five yards away, and I
didn't have a shot because there was a mesquite tree
between me and her. But she's starting to walk towards
the trailhead that I'm sitting on. I'm like, dude, this
is it. Like my heart's racing. I'm like, if she
gets within forty yards and I have a shot, I'm
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gonna take it. And like two minutes into her walk,
she just lookst rate in the direction of where these
guys were sitting and just bolt the other way across
the field away from me.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'm like, no, so ruined your chance. And honestly, if
they had just stayed where they were, yeah, maybe been
a little bit more discreet about it, but stayed in
that like they might have had a shot. It was
a great I considered basically that spot.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, they probably would have had a shot at those cows, which,
by the way, so then we hunt ends for that
and I come out and Plenty you can tell yours
in a minute. Plenty like goes off into an adventure
on the zone. But I see two other guys coming
from the actual bike trail and they were probably I
don't know, four hundred yards away, and they're biking down
and they stopped and we're talking and they're like, hey,
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we saw your bikes, so we didn't want to go
any further. I'm like, man, I really appreciate that, like
you saw someone was there. Thanks for not like trying
to blow our spot up. So they're like, yeah, we
talked to the guys, which were the guys that you know,
we're kind of making a goof free of everything, the
goobers call the goobers. He's like, yeah, we talked to
them and they said they saw two bulls two hundred
yards away. I'm like, well, I think what they saw
(09:02):
was two cows and two calves, but they don't know
what a buller cow is because I didn't see any
bulls anywhere near there. But I did see two cows,
and they're like, yeah, they said it was two hundred
yards away.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I'm like, I think it was like sixty maybe sixty five.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So anyway, that whole I was very frustrated for about
thirty minutes, and then I kind of got over it
because I'm like, you know what, it's bow hunting on
public land. Everyone has the right to be here. Etiquette.
Maybe some people just don't have when it comes to
hunting etiquette.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, well, and there's a lot of I mean, there's
times where you can screw something up that you don't
even know. And at one point when they were walking around,
they started walking right towards me, and I just started
waving my hat here.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I waved it for a.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Little while, and then they saw it and I literally
saw it like point of me, like confer with each other,
and then do you.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
See a guy? I see a guy? Okay, let's go
that's not a deer, right, But yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
After that, I'm like, well, I don't know if this
area is really going to do any good, Like, well,
let me just put my face into the wind and
just kind of still hunt my way into.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The wind usually a good strategy.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, except this time just pointed bow into the wind,
went straight into a brier patch and I was like, oh,
let me just push through the first thick stuff and
then it'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
After that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Then it just got thicker and thicker and thicker, and
it was an impenetrable wall of jungle, and I man,
I was what we were talking about yesterday, where you
could just like lay up against that wall of jungle
and it would like support your weight. That's like what
I was pushing through. This is the text message I
got from plenty. It is too thick back in here.
(10:37):
Animals can move through this, but practically no visibility. I'm
gonna have to find another way around. I can't get
back out of this. I'm stuck. Those are three different
text messages. And then I said, hey, do you need
me to come help you don't. You're gonna be in here
for an hour or two and then we'll build the
on opposite ends of this briar patch.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And I was like my of a road mic on
my camera and the little foamy thing got ripped off
of it three different times and now it's like it
looks like something ate it. It shredded my GoPro fell
off my pack one time. I found that, which is good.
And then I looked down at my bow and I
just noticed that there were four. I was like, what instead,
(11:18):
And I'm like, well, damn, there goes a really nice
broadhead and aluminoc and a good arrow, and that sucks.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm gonna lose an arrow.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I want it because an animal ran off of something
or I missed, not just because I'm just like, oh,
it got caught in a thicket somesh Yeah, So that
was I was like, I was pretty frustrated.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, and I think it had gotten so the temperature
down here today I think got up to eighty seven
eighty eight, but it's superhuman.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It was like a sauna in there, and it was
like I was just drenched.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
At eight o'clock the wind, the wind wasn't bad, but
the sun had come up and it just saw all
of a sudden. At seven o'clock it felt great. Eight
o'clock was like, oh my gosh, it's ring up here. Yeah,
and you're bouncing through that stuff at probably nine o'clock,
which is just so. So I went and rode down
and met him at the road. He came out a
different road and you look ghasted.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know, I was exhausted.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And then I was like, dude, I'm fine walking two
miles all the way around this thing. I just can't
go back the corner mile. I can't, like no way.
So after that, I was like, yeah, I think the
best part of my home was the bike right head.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
That was a little salty, yeah, yeah, But the nice
thing is, like we talked about, is the last time
we were down here four years ago, we camped, which
was fun, but it was hot, no showers and none
of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
So we came back to the cabin, rested a bit,
got some air conditioning going. Yeah, so that that definitely helps, Yeah,
a bit for sure. And then going back in tonight, like, Okay,
we're gonna go to this one spot. See if there's
a bunch of cars. If this bunch of cars, we'll
keep going check out another spot. And that's what happened.
First spot loaded with trucks. They were like, what seven
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trucks there ten in the first unit. There's ten, Oh goodness, yeah, ten.
And there another time there was two or three on
the other entry road that went into that same unit.
Oh yeah, right before it. So I'm like that's that's
the name of the game out here is avoid people.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And so often you think, Okay, let me get to
an area first, so that at least I'm farther back in.
But I think this morning was a proof of even
if your first like somebody else could just still come
up right.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Behind you, They're not gonna care. They're gonna come up.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
We kind of did it to those guys, and other
guys did to us, and so it's like the only
way to avoid that. There's no like other public Forest
Service land that I've hunted a lot of times, it's like, oh,
if you see a truck at a gate, you can
maybe hunt the same property, but just go to the
next stoorl yeah, yeah, or maybe if you know that
guy went left, then you go right.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But it is two hundred hunters, and I don't know
if they're all here or not, but two hundred hunters
got drawn for this. It's probably twenty thousand acres, but
we were talking about early probably thirty percent of that
acreage is all fields, and maybe more than thirty percent.
So you're cramming two hundred hunters into you know, fifteen
thousand acres maybe, and what that means is every hunter
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has I don't know, seventy five acres to themselves, but
you're cramming them all in the same spot. So all
of a sudden, you got ten guys on three hundred acres.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
With pretty much five four real entrances. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And that doesn't even consider a unit four, which is
part of that twenty thousand acres, which no.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Like you have to have a boat to go, Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
there's no roads, boat access only. You're on your own
out there, and I wonder, I'm sure there's people hunting it.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Oh sure, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So our whole strategy, we're like, well, shoot, the two
units we were going to check out both are so
loaded with people. Let's literally just go park off the
highway and just walk in. We looked at the wind direction.
We're like, what's the way we can hunt a patch
woods be safe on the wind direct and just kind
of be in an overlooked corner where we're not going
to run into any hunters.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And I think from from that standpoint or strategy worked
really well.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, nailed it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I did look up and I was like, man, there's
people coming down the path. I'm like, and You're like,
what on earth they're coming down? And I'm like, oh, no, wait,
they got a cart. They're they're hauling out of kill.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Because this is at five o'clock for them, the sunsets
at five forty five. I'm like, dude, not again.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah. But yeah. When he's like, hey, they got something there,
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's awesome. They had a cart
with pretty sure they had a deer in it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, and they were probably from me there, probably three
hundred yards behind me and down wind yeah and down Wins.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Had a spot tonight, And I guess my story was brief.
I got in, just sat under a mesquite just kind
of looking at found a spot where I had kind
of a treeline that I was looking at that it
went anywhere from twenty four to forty two yards where
something could potentially come out of the trees. Sat there,
saw a bunch of cool birds, saw some some eagles,
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saw a bunch of doves, saw a bunch of ducks,
a bunch of cool birds.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Those car cars are cool, man. Yeah. I think I
got a little video clip of them on.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
They're the They're this the I guess national bird of Mexico.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, it's the Mexican flag eagle. I'm pretty much a snake.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, and they're they're cool as hell, like they're pretty birds.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But sat there, didn't see anything till ride at last light.
I got a glimpse of two Nilgai calves. Probably there
were calves or sorry, cows. Yeah, and I assume maybe
they had calves with them. The calves don't come up
really high above the grass. Yeah, and so but there
were probably four hundred yards from me. I just saw
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a glimpse of selling red and I spent a lot
of time trying to find it in the binoculars, but
there was no play. I think by the time I
saw them, it was it was like five fifty nine
and last six twelve, well sunset legal six ten something
like that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, so that was an interesting spot, but no real play.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But yeah, and I sat a little further south and
I sat in it's the middle of a field, and
I was probably sixty yards from the forest or forest
the mesquite trees the most flat, and.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I sat in a little little dry bramblys.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I sat in a clump of mesquites.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I sat there for whatever it was two three hours,
and my phone didn't have cell phone service, so I
literally just sat there looking out for two or three
hours with nothing moving. And then it was after sunset,
uh probably about five or ten minutes after sunset, and
I look over to the right, so I was kind
of hunting an area where we saw two trails at
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kind of crisscross and there are decent trails, and that
was off to my left, off to the right. I
just kind of look over and I see a brown
back and I'm like, huh, okay, and it was it
was a dough about seventy yards away or so, but
in between me and her, and kind of I was
in the middle of the clump of these mesquites, and
the mesquites were all on my right side, so like
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I can see her through the mesquites. I'm like, there's
no shot, no, no, nothing I can do right now.
And then they kind of went behind the mosquits even
further and the grass and brambles are pretty high there,
so I lost them.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I couldn't find them.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So I decided after about five minutes, I'm like, if
I'm going to make they're not coming my way.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
They're going away from me. So if I'm going to
make a play.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I got to kind of sneak out the back of
where I am, walk around those mosquites and try to
get them, and so that's what I did, and I
ended up seeing a dough in a fawn, and the
fawn actually looked right at me, like the fawn is
what spotted me.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So I just kind of stood still. She went back
to eating.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I tried to creep a little bit closer and I
got within I think it was sixty four yards, but
it was we were talking about earlier, like how far
would you take a shot? I think on a Neil
guy would have taken a shot on a white tail
at sixty four yards.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I don't feel comforted. They're probably real jumpy.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
They're real jumpy here, and I mean the grass is
up to, you know, almost their shoulders, even on the
even on the dough. I'm like, man, there's just so
many variables that don't play into my favor Yeah, So
I decided I was like, I'm in a backtrack out
of where I came and try to go around the
other side of the mesquite, because I think I could
probably get within forty five yards or so, and then
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i'd maybe take a shot. So as I'm backing out, uh,
the fawn strangely, it was like pushing her head. You know,
they kind of like stomp and like hit their head up.
She busts me and they just took off in the woods.
But you know, I kind of felt like after this morning,
I don't think I had a play here. I felt
like there was enough cover to maybe have a play.
(19:32):
So you take the shot you have, right, Yeah, and
it it didn't work out, but you know it was
still Uh, I still saw some deer and put a
little stock on them.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, So we were considering going back into that area.
Like you kind of pinned where those deer were, and
I pinned where I think the nilgay were not totally sure,
but we were considering going back into that area. But
fortunately we looked at the weather and saw that we've
had a south southeast wind. Well it seems like it's
like southeast in the morning, moving more eastward as the
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day heats up, and then maybe coming back down a
little south again. It was the day coolse back down.
That's that's been the trend in the last two days.
But there were a whole bunch of clouds way off
to the east, so it looks like there's some big
storm coming through.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
There's a hurricane or not a hurricane, of tropical storm
hitting up a little further north of us.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, so I'm sure that's affecting a whole bunch of
this stuff, and so it's it's probably a I guess
there'd be low pressure sucking wind into it, no idea.
So the wind is changing around one hundred and eighty degrees.
So I feel like a lot of people. I'm really
glad we checked because I think a lot of people
here are going to screw that up. They're gonna say, hey,
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I saw animals here, let me go right to them
where I saw them.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Well, And that's what we were talking about, like we
were going to go run it back this morning, because
I feel like if if I was in that same
place and those guys didn't bump it, I really had
a shot at that cow.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, but I was sitting straight north thro where that
cow was. No, you'd just be the bumper instead of
the bumping. It would be the bumper, that's exactly right.
I'd be the bumpers on the bowling out.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So I think we're gonna just mix it up and
with the due north wind, we're gonna go to the
southern most point that we can get to and just
see how it goes. And it's a spot that I
think has been pretty crowded, pretty pressured. So we're just
gonna get in there stupid early and do what happens.
Just hope to be the guy's furthest back, and I'm
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sure we're going to run into other people, but hopefully it's.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I feel like this hunt is it's a very opportunistic hunt.
Like a lot of times, if you're hunting on public land,
like you were saying, you can kind of find these
areas and maybe go set up there and there's probably
not there's gonna be a lot of people in public land,
but you can find areas where there's not people.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Here there's people everywhere.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, I mean, like an area I've hunted already several
times this fall didn't have success on. But I come
in from the water and have my own little corner.
I've never seen anybody else. I saw one guy on
camera like before season walking through, but I definitely won't
run into another person out there.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And here it's here, I mean, you're going to for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Basically what you're banking on after the first day, when
they're still not the animals are still not really sure
what's going on. I think starting tomorrow, tomorrow morning might
be okay. Tomorrow night, for sure. There's so much pressure
that it's someone probably spooked something and it ran your way,
and you're taking a shot on an animal that just
happened to come across you. So it's very opportunistic at
(22:25):
this point. The strategy is put yourself in the best
position where you know those animals and get the right
wind call and maybe they won't see you.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, And I'm hopeful of them like, oh, I'm gonna
rattle some in and all that, but.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's not gonna happen. I don't think so now.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think right now they're just anything that is a
little bit unusual that they're just gonna bolt because there's
so much pressure. So it was a rough day. I struggled.
I at least saw some animals tonight. Didn't see anything
in the morning. Yeah, I just got stuck in a
briar patch in the morning, but animals it. Yeah, But
(23:01):
I think we're we're hopeful for tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I mean, we came down here with the right expectations.
I think of, let's go have fun and if we
get something great, If.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Not, it is what it is. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I was encouraged that. I feel like I had, you know,
potential on both sits tonight. Not that we were talking
about this earlier. The hardest thing about bow hunting is
if I had a rifle, I could have shot at
least to Neil Guy and at least I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Shot the I could have shot a deer.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, And so that's the biggest challenge is they come
out twenty yards away from where you need them to be.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You can't really make that twenty yards up with a bow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, So I think I'm I don't know tonight. At
least I didn't screw anything up. Yeah, it didn't go
my way, didn't look into anything, but I didn't mess
anything up. I had a perfect wind. It kind of
reset my spirits a little bit for this morning. So
now we're gonna go cut some speckled trout.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, we kind of figured it out.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
We threw just about everything at them last time, tried jigs, spoons,
crank baits, everything, and the answer is really really simple,
just cut from So I like it when.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
He caught a nice one last night. Just an inch
too short. Yeah, they got to be fifteen and he was.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He was fourteen, So hopefully they'll there'll be some more
and we'll get some keepers, ye all right, Well, thanks y'all.
Stay tuned. We'll be doing a couple more episodes. We've
got a few more days left. Hopefully we'll get something
on the ground pretty soon here. Until next time, stay safe,
be free, and never stop seeking adventure.
All right, what's up y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome back to the Adventure one podcast and I guess
part two of our Laguna Attascosa National Wildlife Refuge.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hunt Friday Friday Friday, Dude, Today, today was a really
tough one for me.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I mean we've talked about it some manytimes, the
ups and downs of bowt hunting today.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Public lane, Yeah, on public land. It's just it's tough.
It is a it is a hard thing.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I talked to my kids after we got back tonight
and I was telling them, my eight year old daughter,
I was telling them about the hunt. My eight year
old daughter's like, we why don't you just use the rifle, Daddy.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, it make it way easier. You're not wrong, I
just can't well.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And I guess that leads into say, the spot where
you were sitting this morning would have been the perfect rifle.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
My gosh.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So we had we had found a spot yesterday that
we had seen some Neil guy, those ten Neil guy
we talked about, and we'd seen kind of the trail
where they went from the field into the woods. So
I went this morning found that trail and by the way,
it was a monster trail. Looked like a cattle trail
like there was. It was probably a foot wide and
completely down. There's hoof prints everywhere, and I was like,
(01:15):
all right, I feel pretty good about this. There wasn't
a ton of it's like in a ditch, so there
wasn't a ton of like visibility because of the way
all the trees were. So I sat in this mesquite
tree up on the back side of the ditch, and
I was probably about twenty yards away from the trail
where they'd be coming in off the field. And I,
from a bohemming standpoint, it's a great shot, but I
(01:35):
felt like I was a little too close. Yeah, And
I wanted to get further back, but the only other
play was sitting in the ditch. I'm like, I don't
want to do that because all my visibility goes away.
So I ended up sitting there and I saw for
probably nothing for the first hour, and then at eight o'clock, no,
probably like what.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Seven thirty, I was texting you seven forty five.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, I saw a cow just pop out out of nowhere,
and she was when I first saw her, she was
about eighty yards away.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So she must have just been bedded down. I think
she was just bedded in the field. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
What's funny though, because I ran thermal on the whole
field and couldn't see her. But that grass is super thick,
Like you know, they'll lay down and disappear.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, they're in thick, wet, three foot tall grass. Yeah,
stuff can just absolutely disappear.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So I was waiting and she kind of looked like
she was meandering towards the trail, so like, man that
there might be a shot here, And then she ended
up heading up further away from me, and she got
out to about one hundred and sixty yards away, and
she was just kind of eating the challenge. I kept talking,
I was texting, playing like I may make a play,
but I don't think I can because I'd have to
(02:41):
go down this ditch back up the other side and
then it's just all field, and like, there's no way
she's gonna let me get close enough to take a
shot at her. So I just kind of waited, and
then I saw her sit around. She grays gray's gray.
She came back towards me and she was about eighty
yards away and just laid down. I'm like, okay, this
is fine. She'll lay there for a while. If she
(03:03):
puts her head down, then maybe I'll try to go
make a place she never did. By the way, this
is what's crazy about these animals. She literally sat with
her back in the wind so that she could smell
what's behind her and had her eyes just scanning the
area in front of her. I'm like, dude, like there's
no play to be made here, yeah, and like probably
(03:24):
she laid there for ten fifteen minutes, and then I
saw about three hundred yards out to the left of
her two cows and two calves, and it was actually
kind of cool. The caps will like messing with each
other and like running around place chase each other, and
so this whole time, you want to tell your story
and we'll go back in my initial I guess get
(03:44):
in and set up was pretty uneventful.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Got off the bike, walked in through some really spiky
grass that was just stabbing me the whole way, but
that's just part of it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So got in then.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think it was one of those little acacia trees
just kind of nest back under that and I have
a little like half half sized pop up lines just
basically two triangles that you put in front of you.
Got that all set up, and then was sitting there.
Then riots start seeing some light. I caught a little
flicker of orange and realized there were there were two
guys who I think maybe they had got there right
(04:19):
before we did.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I saw their bikes because I went a little further down.
I saw their bikes. Yeah, I never passed their bikes.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I was kind of surprised by it, and then saw
them and they were sitting right on the top of
a little ridge, not the I feel like normally, well,
we'll always sit on the military crest of a hill,
so it's like not on the tippy top, but just
on one slope or the other, so you're never silhouetted.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
These guys were right on top. Yeah, oh yeah, man,
they were. They were very obvious.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And the rule down here is that you have to
wear a hunter's orange, which is unusual for bow hunting
a lot of times. Bow hunting is like the exception
in general. But you have to wear hunters orange anytime
you're moving, but if you're settled in place, then you
can remove it. So that's what I did. But they
had their orange on the whole time. And I noticed
the guy with shiny sunglasses. He was looking around, short sleeves,
(05:09):
his arms were white, and so they were standing out
on the yeah, and just with arms.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah. So they just weren't very sneaky.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And you know, this is a fairly easy hunt to
draw until it's a lot of people's first you know,
a hunt like this. It was mine, yeah, several years ago.
But I think there's a lot of people who just
don't really know what they're doing with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm convinced he had a crossbow, by the way. One
guy had a compound. I saw one guy.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I didn't see what the other guy had, but they
sat there and then I just every once in a
while it was just I was pretty much in the
binos like the whole time, just looking around and everyone
saw I just look at those guys. What's crazy is
I was one hundred and sixty eight yards from them
and they had no idea what was there.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, that was pretty close, and that was probably then
for me.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It was probably maybe three hundred yeah, to the left
of me.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And at one point I saw them, like I could
tell they had just been looking around and see them
waving their arms and pointing and just like very like.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Not something they're sitting like together.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, and then I see them pack
up head back towards their bikes and then walk and
I could.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Almost eight o'clock in the morning, Yeah, eight o'clock, which,
by the way, like I think sunrise was at six
forty five this morning.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, so they're.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
An over an hour hour in Yeah, and they start
walking back to their bikes. So I don't know if
they were giving up or if they were just trying
to hit some other area. Either way, everybody else has
settled into their spots. They get up, and then right
when they reach their bikes, I see one guy like
starting fantically waving his arms and pointing, and then they
like hustle back to the bushes, and I could almost
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I couldn't hear anything, but I could almost just imagine the.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like, oh look, there's almost get back there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
They hustled back, and then they disappeared in the bushes
for a little while, and then they just walked out
on the trail.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And this is all happening right after I saw those
two caps and calves and all of a sudden, those
two cows and calves, so I saw going towards where
they were because Plenty's like, hey, they're on that mound.
They're headed right towards those guys. They're heading right towards them,
and then they peel off. I couldn't really see him,
but they took off. And very shortly after that, that
cow that I was kind of tracking, she had stood
(07:33):
up and she was grazing again, and dude, I was
fired up. She found the trail that I was sitting on.
She's still probably sixty sixty five yards away, and I
didn't have a shot because there was a mesquite tree
between me and her. But she's starting to walk towards
the trailhead that I'm sitting on. I'm like, dude, this
is it. Like my heart's racing. I'm like, if she
gets within forty yards and I have a shot, I'm
(07:54):
gonna take it. And like two minutes into her walk,
she just lookst rate in the direction of where these
guys were sitting and just bolt the other way across
the field away from me.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'm like, no, so ruined your chance. And honestly, if
they had just stayed where they were, yeah, maybe been
a little bit more discreet about it, but stayed in
that like they might have had a shot. It was
a great I considered basically that spot.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, they probably would have had a shot at those cows, which,
by the way, so then we hunt ends for that
and I come out and Plenty you can tell yours
in a minute. Plenty like goes off into an adventure
on the zone. But I see two other guys coming
from the actual bike trail and they were probably I
don't know, four hundred yards away, and they're biking down
and they stopped and we're talking and they're like, hey,
(08:41):
we saw your bikes, so we didn't want to go
any further. I'm like, man, I really appreciate that, like
you saw someone was there. Thanks for not like trying
to blow our spot up. So they're like, yeah, we
talked to the guys, which were the guys that you know,
we're kind of making a goof free of everything, the
goobers call the goobers. He's like, yeah, we talked to
them and they said they saw two bulls two hundred
yards away. I'm like, well, I think what they saw
(09:02):
was two cows and two calves, but they don't know
what a buller cow is because I didn't see any
bulls anywhere near there. But I did see two cows,
and they're like, yeah, they said it was two hundred
yards away.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I'm like, I think it was like sixty maybe sixty five.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So anyway, that whole I was very frustrated for about
thirty minutes, and then I kind of got over it
because I'm like, you know what, it's bow hunting on
public land. Everyone has the right to be here. Etiquette.
Maybe some people just don't have when it comes to
hunting etiquette.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, well, and there's a lot of I mean, there's
times where you can screw something up that you don't
even know. And at one point when they were walking around,
they started walking right towards me, and I just started
waving my hat here.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I waved it for a.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Little while, and then they saw it and I literally
saw it like point of me, like confer with each other,
and then do you.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
See a guy? I see a guy? Okay, let's go
that's not a deer, right, But yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
After that, I'm like, well, I don't know if this
area is really going to do any good, Like, well,
let me just put my face into the wind and
just kind of still hunt my way into.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The wind usually a good strategy.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, except this time just pointed bow into the wind,
went straight into a brier patch and I was like, oh,
let me just push through the first thick stuff and
then it'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
After that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Then it just got thicker and thicker and thicker, and
it was an impenetrable wall of jungle, and I man,
I was what we were talking about yesterday, where you
could just like lay up against that wall of jungle
and it would like support your weight. That's like what
I was pushing through. This is the text message I
got from plenty. It is too thick back in here.
(10:37):
Animals can move through this, but practically no visibility. I'm
gonna have to find another way around. I can't get
back out of this. I'm stuck. Those are three different
text messages. And then I said, hey, do you need
me to come help you don't. You're gonna be in here
for an hour or two and then we'll build the
on opposite ends of this briar patch.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And I was like my of a road mic on
my camera and the little foamy thing got ripped off
of it three different times and now it's like it
looks like something ate it. It shredded my GoPro fell
off my pack one time. I found that, which is good.
And then I looked down at my bow and I
just noticed that there were four. I was like, what instead,
(11:18):
And I'm like, well, damn, there goes a really nice
broadhead and aluminoc and a good arrow, and that sucks.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm gonna lose an arrow.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I want it because an animal ran off of something
or I missed, not just because I'm just like, oh,
it got caught in a thicket somesh Yeah, So that
was I was like, I was pretty frustrated.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, and I think it had gotten so the temperature
down here today I think got up to eighty seven
eighty eight, but it's superhuman.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It was like a sauna in there, and it was
like I was just drenched.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
At eight o'clock the wind, the wind wasn't bad, but
the sun had come up and it just saw all
of a sudden. At seven o'clock it felt great. Eight
o'clock was like, oh my gosh, it's ring up here. Yeah,
and you're bouncing through that stuff at probably nine o'clock,
which is just so. So I went and rode down
and met him at the road. He came out a
different road and you look ghasted.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know, I was exhausted.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And then I was like, dude, I'm fine walking two
miles all the way around this thing. I just can't
go back the corner mile. I can't, like no way.
So after that, I was like, yeah, I think the
best part of my home was the bike right head.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
That was a little salty, yeah, yeah, But the nice
thing is, like we talked about, is the last time
we were down here four years ago, we camped, which
was fun, but it was hot, no showers and none
of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
So we came back to the cabin, rested a bit,
got some air conditioning going. Yeah, so that that definitely helps, Yeah,
a bit for sure. And then going back in tonight, like, Okay,
we're gonna go to this one spot. See if there's
a bunch of cars. If this bunch of cars, we'll
keep going check out another spot. And that's what happened.
First spot loaded with trucks. They were like, what seven
(12:58):
trucks there ten in the first unit. There's ten, Oh goodness, yeah, ten.
And there another time there was two or three on
the other entry road that went into that same unit.
Oh yeah, right before it. So I'm like that's that's
the name of the game out here is avoid people.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And so often you think, Okay, let me get to
an area first, so that at least I'm farther back in.
But I think this morning was a proof of even
if your first like somebody else could just still come
up right.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Behind you, They're not gonna care. They're gonna come up.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
We kind of did it to those guys, and other
guys did to us, and so it's like the only
way to avoid that. There's no like other public Forest
Service land that I've hunted a lot of times, it's like, oh,
if you see a truck at a gate, you can
maybe hunt the same property, but just go to the
next stoorl yeah, yeah, or maybe if you know that
guy went left, then you go right.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But it is two hundred hunters, and I don't know
if they're all here or not, but two hundred hunters
got drawn for this. It's probably twenty thousand acres, but
we were talking about early probably thirty percent of that
acreage is all fields, and maybe more than thirty percent.
So you're cramming two hundred hunters into you know, fifteen
thousand acres maybe, and what that means is every hunter
(14:12):
has I don't know, seventy five acres to themselves, but
you're cramming them all in the same spot. So all
of a sudden, you got ten guys on three hundred acres.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
With pretty much five four real entrances. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And that doesn't even consider a unit four, which is
part of that twenty thousand acres, which no.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Like you have to have a boat to go, Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
there's no roads, boat access only. You're on your own
out there, and I wonder, I'm sure there's people hunting it.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Oh sure, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So our whole strategy, we're like, well, shoot, the two
units we were going to check out both are so
loaded with people. Let's literally just go park off the
highway and just walk in. We looked at the wind direction.
We're like, what's the way we can hunt a patch
woods be safe on the wind direct and just kind
of be in an overlooked corner where we're not going
to run into any hunters.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And I think from from that standpoint or strategy worked
really well.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, nailed it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I did look up and I was like, man, there's
people coming down the path. I'm like, and You're like,
what on earth they're coming down? And I'm like, oh, no, wait,
they got a cart. They're they're hauling out of kill.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Because this is at five o'clock for them, the sunsets
at five forty five. I'm like, dude, not again.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah. But yeah. When he's like, hey, they got something there,
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's awesome. They had a cart
with pretty sure they had a deer in it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, and they were probably from me there, probably three
hundred yards behind me and down wind yeah and down Wins.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Had a spot tonight, And I guess my story was brief.
I got in, just sat under a mesquite just kind
of looking at found a spot where I had kind
of a treeline that I was looking at that it
went anywhere from twenty four to forty two yards where
something could potentially come out of the trees. Sat there,
saw a bunch of cool birds, saw some some eagles,
(15:57):
saw a bunch of doves, saw a bunch of ducks,
a bunch of cool birds.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Those car cars are cool, man. Yeah. I think I
got a little video clip of them on.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
They're the They're this the I guess national bird of Mexico.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, it's the Mexican flag eagle. I'm pretty much a snake.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, and they're they're cool as hell, like they're pretty birds.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But sat there, didn't see anything till ride at last light.
I got a glimpse of two Nilgai calves. Probably there
were calves or sorry, cows. Yeah, and I assume maybe
they had calves with them. The calves don't come up
really high above the grass. Yeah, and so but there
were probably four hundred yards from me. I just saw
(16:38):
a glimpse of selling red and I spent a lot
of time trying to find it in the binoculars, but
there was no play. I think by the time I
saw them, it was it was like five fifty nine
and last six twelve, well sunset legal six ten something
like that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, so that was an interesting spot, but no real play.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But yeah, and I sat a little further south and
I sat in it's the middle of a field, and
I was probably sixty yards from the forest or forest
the mesquite trees the most flat, and.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I sat in a little little dry bramblys.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I sat in a clump of mesquites.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I sat there for whatever it was two three hours,
and my phone didn't have cell phone service, so I
literally just sat there looking out for two or three
hours with nothing moving. And then it was after sunset,
uh probably about five or ten minutes after sunset, and
I look over to the right, so I was kind
of hunting an area where we saw two trails at
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kind of crisscross and there are decent trails, and that
was off to my left, off to the right. I
just kind of look over and I see a brown
back and I'm like, huh, okay, and it was it
was a dough about seventy yards away or so, but
in between me and her, and kind of I was
in the middle of the clump of these mesquites, and
the mesquites were all on my right side, so like
(17:59):
I can see her through the mesquites. I'm like, there's
no shot, no, no, nothing I can do right now.
And then they kind of went behind the mosquits even
further and the grass and brambles are pretty high there,
so I lost them.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I couldn't find them.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So I decided after about five minutes, I'm like, if
I'm going to make they're not coming my way.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
They're going away from me. So if I'm going to
make a play.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I got to kind of sneak out the back of
where I am, walk around those mosquites and try to
get them, and so that's what I did, and I
ended up seeing a dough in a fawn, and the
fawn actually looked right at me, like the fawn is
what spotted me.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So I just kind of stood still. She went back
to eating.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I tried to creep a little bit closer and I
got within I think it was sixty four yards, but
it was we were talking about earlier, like how far
would you take a shot? I think on a Neil
guy would have taken a shot on a white tail
at sixty four yards.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I don't feel comforted. They're probably real jumpy.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
They're real jumpy here, and I mean the grass is
up to, you know, almost their shoulders, even on the
even on the dough. I'm like, man, there's just so
many variables that don't play into my favor Yeah, So
I decided I was like, I'm in a backtrack out
of where I came and try to go around the
other side of the mesquite, because I think I could
probably get within forty five yards or so, and then
(19:11):
i'd maybe take a shot. So as I'm backing out, uh,
the fawn strangely, it was like pushing her head. You know,
they kind of like stomp and like hit their head up.
She busts me and they just took off in the woods.
But you know, I kind of felt like after this morning,
I don't think I had a play here. I felt
like there was enough cover to maybe have a play.
(19:32):
So you take the shot you have, right, Yeah, and
it it didn't work out, but you know it was
still Uh, I still saw some deer and put a
little stock on them.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, So we were considering going back into that area.
Like you kind of pinned where those deer were, and
I pinned where I think the nilgay were not totally sure,
but we were considering going back into that area. But
fortunately we looked at the weather and saw that we've
had a south southeast wind. Well it seems like it's
like southeast in the morning, moving more eastward as the
(20:01):
day heats up, and then maybe coming back down a
little south again. It was the day coolse back down.
That's that's been the trend in the last two days.
But there were a whole bunch of clouds way off
to the east, so it looks like there's some big
storm coming through.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
There's a hurricane or not a hurricane, of tropical storm
hitting up a little further north of us.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, so I'm sure that's affecting a whole bunch of
this stuff, and so it's it's probably a I guess
there'd be low pressure sucking wind into it, no idea.
So the wind is changing around one hundred and eighty degrees.
So I feel like a lot of people. I'm really
glad we checked because I think a lot of people
here are going to screw that up. They're gonna say, hey,
(20:40):
I saw animals here, let me go right to them
where I saw them.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Well, And that's what we were talking about, like we
were going to go run it back this morning, because
I feel like if if I was in that same
place and those guys didn't bump it, I really had
a shot at that cow.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, but I was sitting straight north thro where that
cow was. No, you'd just be the bumper instead of
the bumping. It would be the bumper, that's exactly right.
I'd be the bumpers on the bowling out.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So I think we're gonna just mix it up and
with the due north wind, we're gonna go to the
southern most point that we can get to and just
see how it goes. And it's a spot that I
think has been pretty crowded, pretty pressured. So we're just
gonna get in there stupid early and do what happens.
Just hope to be the guy's furthest back, and I'm
(21:24):
sure we're going to run into other people, but hopefully it's.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I feel like this hunt is it's a very opportunistic hunt.
Like a lot of times, if you're hunting on public land,
like you were saying, you can kind of find these
areas and maybe go set up there and there's probably
not there's gonna be a lot of people in public land,
but you can find areas where there's not people.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Here there's people everywhere.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, I mean, like an area I've hunted already several
times this fall didn't have success on. But I come
in from the water and have my own little corner.
I've never seen anybody else. I saw one guy on
camera like before season walking through, but I definitely won't
run into another person out there.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And here it's here, I mean, you're going to for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Basically what you're banking on after the first day, when
they're still not the animals are still not really sure
what's going on. I think starting tomorrow, tomorrow morning might
be okay. Tomorrow night, for sure. There's so much pressure
that it's someone probably spooked something and it ran your way,
and you're taking a shot on an animal that just
happened to come across you. So it's very opportunistic at
(22:25):
this point. The strategy is put yourself in the best
position where you know those animals and get the right
wind call and maybe they won't see you.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, And I'm hopeful of them like, oh, I'm gonna
rattle some in and all that, but.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's not gonna happen. I don't think so now.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think right now they're just anything that is a
little bit unusual that they're just gonna bolt because there's
so much pressure. So it was a rough day. I struggled.
I at least saw some animals tonight. Didn't see anything
in the morning. Yeah, I just got stuck in a
briar patch in the morning, but animals it. Yeah, But
(23:01):
I think we're we're hopeful for tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I mean, we came down here with the right expectations.
I think of, let's go have fun and if we
get something great, If.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Not, it is what it is. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I was encouraged that. I feel like I had, you know,
potential on both sits tonight. Not that we were talking
about this earlier. The hardest thing about bow hunting is
if I had a rifle, I could have shot at
least to Neil Guy and at least I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Shot the I could have shot a deer.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, And so that's the biggest challenge is they come
out twenty yards away from where you need them to be.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You can't really make that twenty yards up with a bow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, So I think I'm I don't know tonight. At
least I didn't screw anything up. Yeah, it didn't go
my way, didn't look into anything, but I didn't mess
anything up. I had a perfect wind. It kind of
reset my spirits a little bit for this morning. So
now we're gonna go cut some speckled trout.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, we kind of figured it out.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
We threw just about everything at them last time, tried jigs, spoons,
crank baits, everything, and the answer is really really simple,
just cut from So I like it when.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
He caught a nice one last night. Just an inch
too short. Yeah, they got to be fifteen and he was.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He was fourteen, So hopefully they'll there'll be some more
and we'll get some keepers, ye all right, Well, thanks y'all.
Stay tuned. We'll be doing a couple more episodes. We've
got a few more days left. Hopefully we'll get something
on the ground pretty soon here. Until next time, stay safe,
be free, and never stop seeking adventure.
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