August 19, 2025 • 56 mins
In this episode of Ageless and Timeless, host Michele Hughes welcomes Dr. Ken Davis,
founder of the Davis Advanced Health System. With over 48 years in private practice,
Dr. Davis has developed a unique, integrative, and preventative system that blends
advanced chiropractic procedures, craniopathy, sacro-occipital technique, soft tissue
orthopedics, applied kinesiology, vibrational therapy, and clinical nutrition. His methods
go far beyond the traditional adjustment—addressing the whole person through the triad
of physical, mental, and spiritual well-being.
Dr. Davis shares his remarkable journey from aspiring dentist to renowned chiropractor
and educator, including the pivotal mentors and life events that shaped his path. He
explains his "Triangle of Well-Being" philosophy, the importance of identifying the root
cause of illness, and the role of muscle testing in uncovering hidden emotional and
spiritual blocks. Listeners will also learn about Natural Force Healing, a vibrational
energy system he co-developed that can release trauma, balance the nervous system,
and restore vitality.
Beyond his clinical expertise, Dr. Davis inspires with his personal
transformation—taking up competitive bodybuilding at age 66, writing bestselling books,
and continuing to mentor practitioners worldwide. This conversation is packed with
wisdom for anyone seeking a deeper, more holistic approach to health and longevity.
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founder of the Davis Advanced Health System. With over 48 years in private practice,
Dr. Davis has developed a unique, integrative, and preventative system that blends
advanced chiropractic procedures, craniopathy, sacro-occipital technique, soft tissue
orthopedics, applied kinesiology, vibrational therapy, and clinical nutrition. His methods
go far beyond the traditional adjustment—addressing the whole person through the triad
of physical, mental, and spiritual well-being.
Dr. Davis shares his remarkable journey from aspiring dentist to renowned chiropractor
and educator, including the pivotal mentors and life events that shaped his path. He
explains his "Triangle of Well-Being" philosophy, the importance of identifying the root
cause of illness, and the role of muscle testing in uncovering hidden emotional and
spiritual blocks. Listeners will also learn about Natural Force Healing, a vibrational
energy system he co-developed that can release trauma, balance the nervous system,
and restore vitality.
Beyond his clinical expertise, Dr. Davis inspires with his personal
transformation—taking up competitive bodybuilding at age 66, writing bestselling books,
and continuing to mentor practitioners worldwide. This conversation is packed with
wisdom for anyone seeking a deeper, more holistic approach to health and longevity.
Medical Disclaimer – Ageless and Timeless Podcast
Ageless and Timeless (the “Show”), along with its host and guests, shares insights and
discussions on health, wellness, and longevity for informational and educational
purposes only. The Show does not provide medical advice, diagnoses, treatments,
cures, or preventative recommendations for any disease or health condition. The
content shared should not be used as a substitute for professional medical advice,
diagnosis, or treatment.
While we strive to feature reputable sources and knowledgeable guests, neither
Ageless and Timeless nor its host or affiliates assume responsibility for errors,
omissions, or misinterpretations in the information provided. Listeners are encouraged
to use their own discretion and consult with a licensed medical professional before
making any health-related decisions. By listening to this podcast, you acknowledge that
any actions you take based on the information presented are at your own risk, and
Ageless and Timeless, its host, guests, and affiliates are not liable for any direct,
indirect, incidental, or consequential damages resulting from the use of this content.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, everyone, This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. Today,
I have a guest who I've been talking to now
for a few months and he was introduced to me
by our mutual friend Rob Fletcher, who is a top
Doctor magazine executive.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And his name, my guest name.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Is doctor Ken Davis. And Ken welcome to Ageless and Timeless.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thanks Michelle, excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, you and I've had a little history.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We were on Rob's podcast together, I was on your podcast,
and now it's.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Your turn to be on my podcast. So we have
a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
There so many subjects that we didn't cover in the
other two podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So are you ready to go?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm ready to go, right all right.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, why don't you first tell us who you are and.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Your journey to where you are today you have I'm
just preface it by telling everyone that doctor Davis is
a renaissance man, a true renaissance man, and.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We call him and he's going to.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Tell us all about that. But why didn't you give
us a little history can of who little Ken was?
Who little Ken was seventy years ago? And sorry to
tell everybody your age, but it's truly a test.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Actually, I have a birthday this week.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Michelle, Oh you're kidding what number?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm the leo uh seventy three. This renaissance man grew
up in Patterson, New Jersey, home of lu Costello, one
of the first cult forty five manufacturing factories. Very interesting city,
very multicultural. I loved it and God very heavily involved
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at sports early on as a kid. But one day
my mom took me to the dentist office had an appointment,
and being I guess a young kid at seven or eight,
I was fascinated, and I guess they still do it,
I don't even know. Had all the dental molds in
the in the window that you could look at from
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the waiting room, and I became fascinated with that. And
at that point, at seven, I decided I wanted to
be a dentist my whole life, you know. So I
played sports. I got a baseball scholarship. I was offered
a scholarship from high school to go to college, which
I did down in Erskine College in due West, South Carolina. School.
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But what happened was, but as destiny has it, I
went down started playing baseball and got homesick for my
high school sweetheart, and I said, I got to come home.
So as soon as I transferred home, I was supposed
to start the I believe that January, my high school
(03:02):
supposedly sweetheart broke up with me.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So but no, don't be because it was if she
didn't and I didn't go, if I didn't come home
to transfer, I would have never become a chiropractice. And
what I did, so it was really a godsend. As
I look at it, it was destiny that that would happen,
because so I went to school. And but what happened
(03:32):
was my journey, was that I met this young fellow
and we became very very very very close friends who
was studying actually as I was to bs Tog. He
was going to be a medical doctor and he is
today a very famous one actually, And as we studied together,
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he invited me at one point and says, look, why
didn't you come with me tonight to my chiropractice. I didn't.
I had no idea what a chiropractor was, what they
did and so forth. So I said sure, because he
would go for he said, I go to my chiropractor
for attention headaches from studying. He said, okay, I'll come.
(04:15):
So I went with him to this nice gentleman who
had a two room office. He was really adhering to
the philosophy of what chiropractic was meant to do and
was developed to do. And I just everything he explained
to me about it was don't mind my dog in
the background.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I see your dog, he's quiet. Anyway, Was that doctor Reach?
Was that?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
No? Not yet? This was his name was doctor Armand
it was not him, but the understanding of the philosophy
of the innate wisdom. See what drove me to want
to do this is because for some reason, I always
believed that the body's innate ability and the innate power
(05:05):
within the body had the ability to heal itself if
there was interference, be moved. And I just kept asking,
and I went with my friend every week until finally
I experienced having a chiropractic adjustment by him. It was great,
and I just fell in love with the philosophy and
(05:27):
I said, this is what I want to do, and
I applied.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So how old were you? How old were you then
or how young?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Twenty one?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Okay, so this was at the end of.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Your colleague at the end of our go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'm sorry, no, no, when did you meet doctor Reis
because I know he was your mentor and you mentioned
him to me before that he changed your life.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I mean, there are always people I think your life
that are you know, the people that changed who we are.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We are as particularly early on to shape our perceptions.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So in your case, I think you told me that
was doctor Reese.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It was doctor Rees and the way in which I
met him, you see. So when I finally first of all,
the chiropractice school that I got accepted with was on
seventy first Street in Manhattan. That's where everybody went in
this one big building. And I was supposed to start
school there, and about a week before I got a
(06:29):
phone call from the administration saying the school is not
going to be in New York any longer. It's going
to be out in Long Island, the north shore of
Long Island in Northvale, utilizing the New York Institute of
Technologies campus. So I was the first class out at
this new and they had purchased property across and they
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were going to build a new school. So I was
the first class out there. So I remember I had
to find a place to live real quick, and I
found on this lovely older couple had a beautiful home
in Minneola, New York.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I know Minneola very well.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Where I was, and I was on the I had
the whole second floor. So it was a Friday night
and I'm supposed to start on Monday, and I'm sitting
there twenty twenty one years old, like like, what am
I doing here? You know, is this one earlier what
I'm going to be doing for the rest of my life?
So a little voice said, I decided that I started
(07:29):
calling chiropractice up on the phone, and I know who
I was, And then I was starting school and can
I come and work for you. I don't want to
be paid. I'll sweep your floors, I'll wash your windows.
I just want to learn shadow.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You wanted to be a shadow.
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Speaker 3 (08:48):
Wanted to shadow and about the fiftieth chiropractor said, probably
that I called on the phone said, come on over,
was Ronnie Goodmore. And Ronnie was in Huntington, Long Island,
and actually his brother Gary had just finished school and
(09:09):
opened actually in a town right from where I eventually
opened my first practice. So Ronnie was phenomenal and I
used to so in his office. I would he had
a very high volume practice. He was a very fine chiropractice,
very philosophical, and I would record his findings. He would
call it out cervical five on the right and lumbar three,
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and I would write it for him, and I watched,
and then I learned he had a very special technique
that he used that required very sophisticated X ray marketing
and X ray developing. So I developed all his X
rays and I would call it out and tell him
the line that he had to set up on the
X ray, and he taught me how the system. But
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there was something. So one day, after so many weeks
being in his office, he brings these blocks out that
look like wedges, And I said, Ronnie, what are these
blocks or wedges? Says they're called They're from a system,
(10:18):
chiropractical system called SOT Sacral occipital technique. Fascinating. So I
see him put them onto the hips of the patient.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I've had that done.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's called a blocking procedure right. Sometimes the blocks were
put on the patient when they were lying on their
stomach or in the prone position right, or on their back,
So he said, fascinating. So all of this, he goes
to the back office, takes out the Green Book as
I call it nineteen seventy four, gives me the book
(10:53):
to read. So I devoured the book. So every day
I worked, I believe two or three days a week,
I would write questions down and ask him about what
this meant. And some of them really because it was
kind of just beginning to learn it, so it was
kind of neophyting the technique. So in about two weeks
(11:15):
I knew more than he did just by reading the book.
Devowered the book you and.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
You you were still going to classes, right, you were
getting degree. So this is kind of a vocational, vocational
experience to augment your studies. And it was basically out
in the real world. So not a lot of people
get to do that, and you are really lucky that
he took you on. So yeah, I want to jump
I don't want to dwell too much on that because
(11:44):
I want to jump ahead because I want people who
are watching to know more about what you do as
well as who you are. So let's just kind of
summarize it by saying that you were one of those
people that was very proactive and that you went to
find your opportunities.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You didn't just sit.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Back and wait for them to happen you and know
that shows up in your your history of sports as well.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So and that you came back because of a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But you know, they say that everything happens for a reason,
so that was supposed to happen, and you know, sometimes
we look back and we say, oh, now I understand
why I got a broken heart, but I got a
new career.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So yeah, well, you know, I never looked at it
that way, Michelle. That's a great y, right, So let's
fast forward.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So now, okay, we're now in you know, twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And twenty five, and here we are at forty seven years.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You've been practicing.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Correct forty eight years.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Forty eight okay, sorry, one year later and you're going
to be one year older on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So time does move on.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, So what is it that you're doing at the
David Help.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Advanced Health System? What is it that you're doing that
makes you unique?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I just want to go back for a second. Justice.
The point is in the relating back to doctor Rehees
that I eventually became a certified instructor in this system
that incorporates the block procedures of the categorization, but also
many other disciplines within it, which are craniopathy the ability
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to a craniopath is someone that's educated and is trained
to evaluate cranial motion and corrective components. Also, the SOT
system is visceral manipulation, the ability to affect organ dysfunction
and bring an organ back to life. Really with nutritional support.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
That's huge.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Oh, it's unbelievable. That's huge.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Mean that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
In the and does that does that put you in
a category of an osteopath in addition to being a chiropractic, because.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
They are the osteopathic. The element of osteopathy is that
it's very difficult to find a classical osteopath that's doing
classic osteopathy. Uh, to go ahead, But you know, I
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was invited. I had an associate, UH, French trained osteopath
working in my office a few years ago, who I
met my town here, Montclair, and she I was invited
and I taught at the osteopathic school in Paris m
several several days. And the French trained osteopath first of all,
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are phenomenal practitioners, and they go to school for six years,
not four years, and their specialty is cranial technique and
manipulation primarily. So also Dejarnet, doctor MB Dejarnet, who developed
psycrao occipital technique, was himself also an osteopath in addition
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to being a chiropractor. His teacher was William Garner Sutherland,
and Sutherland is famous osteopath, was a developer of cranial osteopathy.
So and I learned and became a certified preaneopath through Dejarnet.
So I had this whole kind of lineage that led
up to the process. But just a little bit more.
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Doctor Reese was a principal researcher and developer within the
st organization and produced this incredible body of research that
I did not see. No one else was producing this,
And I heard stories about him that his work and
research was done early in the morning before work and
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late at night. So when you're certified as an instructor,
you're required to attend so and teach us two seminars
a year somewhere in the United States. And every time
I went to teach, Doc was always, as we affectually
called him, he was always there at the seminar, and
I would always make sure that I would go and
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attend his class and see and it was always mind blowing.
Plus once a year Dejarnett in Omaha, Nebraska would have
a week long symposium of all the different techniques and
procedures of the SRT system, and Reese again was always there.
Then one day, so I was already following and reading
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his books. But when I saw him begin to do
his thing on stage and demonstrate that was it, and
I just started following everything that he did.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So that's what you incorporate into your practice today.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
The foundational exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
But also when we spoke before, there was another uniqueness
about you that I wanted.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
To present back to you today to discuss, and that
is that you.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Know, many many people just focus on the physical, but
you are a body minded spirit and your approach to
your practice, to your discipline.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So could you talk.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
About that for a moment, Just tell us how body
minded spirit?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I hold the chart up, sor right, and I hold
the chart up.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh yeah, for sure. Absolutely. If you have something there
of course, Oh there we go. Love it? Okay, Okay,
explain that.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Is this what you show to your patience when they
come in the first time?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
This is what I educate everybody to. Okay, this is
what I learned forty something years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Tell us, tell us.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
This is what separates me from everybody else, tankes me
one thousand different. We believe that's what everybody tells.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Okay, So tell us what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
One of the things I had my foundation that I
learned many years ago is what's known as the triang
of well being. So this triangle, if you, if you
can put yourself for every person is this triangle of
well being that exists on this planet today. And again
this triangle, so just put yourself there. So there's the
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physical that makes us up, bones, nerve, blood, organ gland, tissue.
And then we have this side of a triangle.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And and and sells sells, which are the convolution kind
of well being.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, and we have this element, the second part of
the trial anger, which is the mind, our thoughts, our feelings,
our emotions, our desires, sentiments and so forth. Right, then
we have this side. Now here's where people always ask me,
which is because also our system is non denominational, so
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it doesn't matter what we really it's not about a religion,
so a lot of people that could be agnostic, atheists, whatever.
And he says, well, what do you mean the spirit
or this? And that I said, the spirit is the
essence of who and what we really are. And whether
you believe in whatever, we have to acknowledge at least
that there is an energy within us. Then we're we're
alive and it's not when we're not. And that energy
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has a lot to do with driving the mind and
the body component. But to me, the spirit is the
essence of who and what we really are, the spiritual
being having this physical human experience, not a physical woman
trying to have a spiritual experience in three component elements
that make us up as this spiritual human being that
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we are. The thing is that I learned and thousands
and thousands of patients, beginning with Reese, is that the
physical where humanity suffers only one percent. I don't care
what it is, cancer, heart disease, back pain, headaches, or
whatever is manifesting, only one percent of it originates physical
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as a cause only.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
That's a pretty mind blowing statement, as you can imagine,
most people would not resonate.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
With Dutch because they don't get that there's this integrative
being that's made up of all our thoughts, our reality watches.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I here's an interesting thing coming up, right, So then
we have this weight of the triangle of the mind
that accounts for nine percent as the underlying component element
creating humanities ills and breakdown. Then the spiritual angle is
ninety percent of the cause of humanities ells. But the
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thing is that see, the essence of who we really
are is the light. But if I have so disruption
and see this is always attempting to express itself at
one hundred percent, but certain elements of life create lamp
shades around this, So the light may become dim which
could be a bad experience in Hebrew school or a
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Catholic school, or a divorce or a breakup, or praying
to God help this person heal and it doesn't happen,
and a person loses their faith or they whatever. All
of that creates a disruption or a distortion in this element. Also,
remember Pythagoras, the ancient mathematician, said, if you have a
triangle and you this is an important part for the
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audience to understand. If you have a triangle and I
change any angle of a triangle, what's going to happen
to all the angles? They all change. Now that's an
important concept in our system, which is that one angle
when imbalance, is going to affect all of the angles.
So if you have a mental emotional major problem, it's
going to alter you through your physical body, whether it's
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your chemistry, your immune system, your digestive system, your hormone system,
and whatever. So it's kind of like the analogy I
use a lot. If you have a leak in your
ceiling of your bathroom and it's breaking up your tile
and your groud, it's going to keep happening until you
fix the leak, and so that's an important concept. One
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angle affects them all. So that's why, over the years
and also teaching other doctors, you have to become proficient
not only in a system where you're dealing with the
underlying cause, but also what's kind of getting beat up.
So that's where all your other nutrition, biochemistry, understandingone viscual manipulation,
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cranial structural correction to be able to also repair what's
being affected, but also having a system that can address
the underlying problem. The thing is, though, let's go to
this and then we'll come back. We believe and I
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believe that inherent in all of us there's a triune
or of a blueprint of perfection that exists as a template,
like a blueprint that built a house. But this template,
this perfect triune right is affected by layers of the
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onion that construct themselves. Due to the fact that as
a human being, we are exposed greatly to fight or
flight response. Since the caveman, the caveman. When the sabre
tooth tiger was running after the caveman, he did two things.
He either killed it and brought the food home for
his family, or he took off and ran that fight
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or flight. The question is when we have a stress response,
is our ability of our nervous system's ability to be
able to adapt to the stress, recover and move on
with life. No, or we can't or the stimulus is
too much which I have listed. Is then that gets
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recorded as a layer of our onion somewhere in its
effect in our soft tissue, in our organ functions, glandular
and our energy fields that run in and around the body.
So what happens when you see a new patient, someone
suffering or in pain. They have an accumulation of these
layers of the onion that have been built since inception.
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And if you believe in karma or reincarnation, it's brought
forth from another time as well.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, so can I have a question? Sorry to interrupt you,
but let's just say a new patient comes in. I
mean this is now.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Multi factorial what you're dealing with, and you know you're
the doctor, are faced with getting to know a patient
in a defined period of time in order.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
To be able to affect change. And many of those patients.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Don't even know what those other two aspects are, the
spiritual and the emotional.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You know, they know that physically they.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Don't feel right, but they don't go deep enough to
know the other two. So how do you as a
doctor get to penetrate into the psychological, the emotional, the spiritual?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
How do you get there from A to B?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well, first of all, I make it my business. This
is one of the things. I'm always available to all
of my patients. And whenever a new patient calls my
office up on the phone, I always make sure that
I always call them back and talk to them first
before they make the appointment.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
And why do you do that? What do you talk about?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I want to understand what it is that First of all,
I always I always want to know who referred them.
I also I practice I don't take it on a
patient unless I know who referred them. Yeah, that's the
thing that I need to know who that is. Then
what I do is that I want to know what
their major problem is and then I give them a
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brief synopsis of why. And a lot of people have
heard that they don't understand totally what I do, but
I've heard that they have to come and see me
because of what I do, even though they don't stand
it totally yet. And I kind of give them a
brief understanding of that of what we're talking about now,
right when they come into the office and they go
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for their evaluation. Initially, before I even stand them up
and look at them, I immediately I begin to explain
to them why I'm different, kind of like I'm doing now.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Okay, However, you still have to peel those layers of
that onion, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And like I said, many people don't know how to
go deeper. They're not introspective.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You're dealing with peopleople who react rather than you know, investigate.
They're reacting to what they feel, but they're not looking
at the reasons why, uh, and into the other two
areas that are more subjective.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I'm just I'm just curious because.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I want my viewers to understand that this is not
something that's just an ABC that you can say, Okay,
I'm going to go see doctor Davis and it's just
going to be a one off. You know, we're going
to have a talk.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
He's going to ask me, what's bothering me? What pain
I have? He's going to do some adjustments.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
It isn't that at all in your case, you're like
a part psychologist.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
As well as.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Been accused of it.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yes, okay, so you know the question really is you
know what's your what's your secret sauce that gets you
to get underneath those layers of the onion.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
To get people to open up and be able to talk. Well.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
The thing is also that I tell them see and
they get it. They can get see this. I tell them.
This is the reason why, whether it's the alternative world
or the medical world, you cannot treat the person the
sin because the underline, even though and then the analogy
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or the metaphor I've used for decades is that so
let's say you have a thousand patients that have Crohn's disease.
I'm just making this up. The point is is that
even though you have a thousand patients that have crone
disease or a chronic lower back problem or lymphoma, the
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origin or the causative factor may not be the same
in certain percentage of them. So three hundred dollars come
from the physical as a cause four hundred come from
this side and the rest come from that side. How
the hell do you know? There's no system that's been
developed to be oh wow, the blood. We developed a
system fifty forty five years ago that can identify where
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the origin of the problem is in a matter of minutes,
of where it comes from, of what angle of the
triangle it comes from. We have a testing system utilizing
specific reflexes or assessment points. And also remember one of
the things that I am is I'm gonna apply kinesiologists.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yes, I was just going to say that, So you
use muscle testing kinesiology, so as you ask them questions
that bridge into the spiritual and the other mental self
in order to get their weakness right away.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's really cool. So okay, explore that with us a
little further.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
With so we've so, for example, over the years, we've
created reflexes that first of all relate to the body angle,
to the mind angle, relate to the spiritual angle.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So do you do you ask if question like how
happy are you happy? I mean that's kind of a.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yes or no one of the questions I.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I can oh one of the I have many things
like that because see also One of the things that
doctor Reese taught us the Inner group is that this
is important for your viewers and listeners. Your subconscious mind
is the greatest physician in the whole world. Why it
records every scrap of information that has ever happened to you.
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And if you have a to access or querry the subconscious,
which we do, then you can. Now you can get
established information. So the point is, also we learned, is
that your conscious mind never tells the truth. Never, It
just gives the information to your subconscious mind, which has
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all the truth. So, yeah, do I ask a question,
you know, my question is that the end of their
report of findings, I asked them. Also, let me just
explain something too about muscle testing when you must. First
of all, we do not whether or not one does it,
doesn't do it feels they're right, not right. We do
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not advocate pendulum testing or a lot of people are
using their fingers to ask questions. We don't believe that's
an accurate, clear way because the mind, the practitioner's mind,
usually gets in the way of allowing their educated mind
to determine the answer. We don't think that that's accurate,
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and I haven't and this is personally speaking. So in
addition to muscle testing, one of the things that I've
used for forty eight years is what's called an arm
mentor a surrogate. I use another person, and another person
is called one mind removed, which means yeah, I do,
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which is you can also use a someone who's neutral
and has been programmed a specific way to be a
neutral and to create a greater circuit to the subconscious
mind of the patient. So when I use a surrogate,
They're able to touch an area of the patient and
I'm able to utilize a response component in the arm
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of the surrogate. They have nothing to do with the
diagnostic and it's about one hundred percent accurate. And this
is what doctor Reese did for sixty years of being
in practice. So, but getting back to individual, when we
do a muscle test, whether you're left to or righty,
we always use the right arm of the patient in
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our testing mode. Why because there's more motor and sentory
innervation to the right arm of a human being than
any other part of the body than the lips. But
we haven't valuated to test the lips yet, so we
use the right arm. So it's a highly accurate way
of getting information. So also there are specific ways that
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we teach in our seminars and our classes of how
to properly test and the type of different types of
the public's arm that come in. There's a there's a
definitive arm, there's a wavy arm, there's a given arm,
there's a resistant arm. Something that I've encountered in all
these years of so many thousands of people that have
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come in, and what your account and you know what
you're finding in the way in which you test somebody.
But going back, so for example, at the end of
my evaluation with somebody, and I explained everything to them,
you know, one of the questions I asked them, I
want to get better. You know, if there are we
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may stroll. And that's a belief system. Yes, from this,
it's like a lie detector. Yes, I want to get better.
Another I shall ask, is I believe I can be better?
Get better? You know what happens with a lot of
people The arm goes weak. Well, yes, we have an
issue here. Another question I'll ask is I'll do anything
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that it takes to get better. A lot of people
who want to go down, they won't pop for varying reasons.
These are the things that I address with a new patient. Uh,
I'm ready to make I'm ready to invest in myself,
even financially. Sometimes I know, because I understand that people
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have a life to live, they have to put food
on the table. But sometimes we tend to do the
things that we need to. You know, people will go
and do what they want to do based upon their
belief system. But a lot of people, and I've seen
this over the years, make unfortunately finances and money an
issue over the maintenance and establishment of good health. And
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then it comes you know, the cliche is, oh, well,
there's no amount of money that you know, yeah, until
it becomes an issue. So also so these questions are
part of my examination on somebody. One of the questions
when I evaluate them initially is I asked this question
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on a scale of zero to ten. Tell me the
level of joy you feel when you wake up in
the morning the first thing. But and I say, I'm
not talking about the joy you have for your children
or your dog or whatever. The level of joy that
you feel, Hey, it's a new day, it's joyous and whatever.
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And a lot of people or not out of ten
and I say, what's that about? So you know, these
are the type of things that I talk to people
about initially before we eve move forward, and then and
then to really establish and address some of these things
because they can greatly be impacting their health and their
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wellbeing process.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And are you using any equipment like a beamer or
some of these energetic.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
The only equipment that I use adjunctively to my to
my ability to the way in which I'm utilizing and
accessing the energy and the vibrations that we use is
I have what's called an uh AH, a light being
generator machine, which is a lymphatic drainage machine utilizes medical
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oxygen that converts through the machine into saturated ozone, which
has been very effective treatment of limes disease and varying infections,
but also just on generalized lymphatic flow in the body
earlier all these years. Is that apart from it, I
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think you know a little bit about my history of
using what's called or being one of the leading researchers
and developers and what's called a theoic modification patient therapy
or harmonics, which is something that doctor Reese developed and
a principal teacher in an organization for me, you know,
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the organization is really no longer, but is something that's
a big part of my practice from a vibrational energetic perspective.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
So, what of all the applications that you've described, which
one would you say has more efficacy for healing if
you could single out, or is it all integrated into
a bigger picture like you just described with the body
minded spirits side.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I mean, is there is there a technique that you
know is kind.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Of full proof that will always have an impact on
a positive impact on.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Your that we've been teaching for over thirty years called
natural force healing.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Natural force healing.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
By the way, your dog is on your out.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
That's the face. Yeah, he's fine, Okay, that's the favorite place, right. Yeah.
So natural force haling is a vibrational system that utilizes
very amplified energy vibration and frequencies or what we call
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levels of energies. So maybe at some other point, you know,
if you have me back, I'll go deeper into that
whole component. But now, these levels of energies that we've
researched and developed are applied on a person through specific
hand placements on specific points of the body in a
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way in which we've learned over many decades of how
we of how energy moves in the universe and how
to access it and how to amplify it. Also, you know,
being involved with vibrational therapy for again for almost fifty years,
you know, I've seen many many things come about, you know,
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And the problem, you know, not to be judgmental with
a lot of these energetic and vibrational systems that have
evolved over the years. My experience with them is that
there's no background or depth or really understanding of how
energy moves in the universe. The fact that there is
positive energy and there is negative energy, and that's a
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lot of people that are so called healers do not
believe that there's and there is because as you grow,
so does the opponent. And a lot of negative energy
that we can a person can bring forth as a
healer to an affect the patient can't have a negative
effect on them. But in the system of natural force healing,
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there are specific energy vibrations and frequencies that we've learned
about to access and amplify them to be used on
how it affects the patient. So there are what we
can called levels of energies that relate to the body
angle when we test. So there's twelve major levels of
the work and natural force healing. Different levels, as we
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call them, utilize specific frequencies but very specific on how
they impact the patient. For example, if we tested a
patient and they were let's say in the body angle,
the primary angle being the physical, we would there are
of those twelve levels, Levels one, two, three, and four
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are the levels that we would tests that work to
bring the physical side of the triangle back into balance
if they were in the mind angle. Levels three, four, five,
and six relate to the mind and the rest relate
to the spirit. So for example, let's say I tested
and we have screening points to know which of those
levels of energies are needed. So for example, level one
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so would be a position here we would test. Level
one deals with the meningial dural system, you know the
coverings over the brain and spinal cord, which are like
a tape recorder. So when we're in fight or flight response,
this dura, the meningual system can hold memory and keep
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a person locked in a fight or flight response to
a particular area of life, many areas, so that person
is really not expressing to the world who they really are.
So an energy which our hand positions held a specific
way is an energy that can impact and amplify to
clear that meningial dural system out in a matter of
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two minutes, where their whole spine changes and they're breathing
like they never did. So they move out of it.
And you know what happens with a lot of these
people when you when you change the miningual component, they
start crying. They start crying or laughing. Right there on
the table have all these releases. And when I first
started doing this years ago, a person after their treatment
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was sitting in their car for an hour and a
half crime until they could drive. So Level three, for example,
relating to the mind. Level three utilizes as a different
hand position and a different point has two energies that
are used to this levels of energy remove in a
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person fixed ideas, mental blocks, and limiting beliefs that hold
that person back in their lives. Level five, which is
tied into the mind, is another different hand position placed
around the sphenoid areas of the skull balance. It prevents
one area of the brain being overdominant in the other
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one and then its effect on the cranium and all
the other energy centers. So each particular for example, level
two right, right and left, which comes up in the
physical angle and in the spiritual angle. So level two,
if it was there in the physical is causing physical
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based karmic caused illness in a human being. This is
the person and that memory of that event, karmically speaking,
is held within the minidual system of a person.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Well, one thing we can say, ken is for everybody
that's watching it, is you're not going to go to
doctor Davis to just get an adjustment, which.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Is what adjustment? Right?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Well, I mean a lot of people think that that's
all that a chiropractor does. But obviously you're you're proving
and presenting to everyone that this is a multi layered,
multi dimensional system and you just you know, have to
look deeper in order to understand why you have the
issues that you have. It's it's not purely uh, just
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superficial like a lot of people think, oh, I'll go
to my career back, you'll give me an adjustment and
I'll be much better.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
We get those people they think they're looking you know,
you know what I say to them, Michelle and I said,
my name is DA V I S not j E
s U S very good, you know, So let me.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Let me switch gears for a moment, because I want
people to know more about your bodybuilding and your books.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
So tell us about the two books that you wrote.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
And why you wrote them, and what the messages are
in those two books.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
The first book primarily that I wrote is called Climbing Mountains,
and that was more about the journey that I went
on with Lisa uh and myself, about our work with
doctor Reese, what we develop, the techniques, the systems, our
journeys around the globe, and so forth. The other book
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that I wrote was actually started out to be a
follow up to the first book, based upon all the
travels that we went on with doctores all over the world,
utilizing being directed by you could say, the powers that
be to make changes throughout the world. We went to
every mystical place you could possibly be met and studied
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ancient religions, the cultures in Tibet, China, Japan, Machu Pichu,
the Galapagos, Maui, Stonehenge, and I could go on and
on and on and on to get Israel, Egypt, the
Canary Islands, and so the second book and to learn
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what we did there in our ability to access specific
energies and learn about them, and be able to use
these energies to change the weather, change weather patterns, work
to bring to the desert, to feed all kinds of
things that we did that people would think that we're
out of our mind in a certain way. But I
could tell stories for the next eight hours about miraculous
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things that took place. Plus, in the making of these
harmonic devices, we use certain minerals and stones found to
vibrate a specific frequency in the way in which they
were made. And so again the second book started about
all the things that we learned on these journeys. And
then Marty Gallagher, who I wrote the book with, primarily said, Ken,
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you have to your spiritual experience is tied to your
bodybuilding experience as well. I said it is, says, yeah,
of course you have to write about that. I said,
I do, yes, so, especially in light of so it
kind of took a turn and I just started talking
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about it and writing about it so well.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I think people need to know that you started bodybuilding
at age sixty six and you are now turning seventy three.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
God, this is all in your.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
So called golden years where most people think it's time
to hang up their cleats and okay, all right, wow,
look at you.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
That's me.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Realistic bodies talk about an inspiration? There there it is
right there on the cover.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
You know what, I don't think. I don't hear from
people that, oh, oh not here your your photos. Did
you photoshop your head on that body?
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Oh I did not photoshop, but they kind of no.
I said, that's me.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, So okay, so this is somewhat miraculous. And as
most people would look at it, they say, how can
a sixty six year old they look like like that?
And what what did he have to get to that point?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
So why don't you give us? You know, we only
have five.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Minutes left, So in two minutes, tell us what because
I have another question.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
In two minutes, tell.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Us what you did? First of all? That again another
aha voice. Again. Being an athlete I had in one
of our wellness programs, I had a mother and daughter.
The mother who would have no problem mentioned Kathy Parachus
runs a gym up in close to New Jersey called
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Destination Fitness, and Kathy was a patient of mine. In
one of my programs, her daughter Stephanie was as well,
who was a competitive bodybuilder at one point, and I
didn't see them. They did great, and about I was
looking at a Facebook feed months past and Stephanie had
put on eighty pounds and I couldn't believe it. And
then the next picture she got it off and competed
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in bodybuilding. So I just went off in my head
and said that would be an unbelievable quest to do.
And I said, I'm going to do this, but if
I do it, I want to compete in the stage.
So I trained seven and a half months and got
up on stage. And but the thing is that I
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was in my sixties. Then there was no sixty year
old class, right wow, But I did great. I didn't place,
but I held my own and everybody freaked out. They
couldn't believe I did it. I had to do it,
and that was it. I was hooked. The point is
is that the key to anti aging are these This
is what this book is really all about, not so
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much about Ken Davis. It's about about following these steps
is what leads. And I know you know this already.
It's this is what it's about people. It's about proper
diet and nutrition. Two cardiovascular exercise, and three uh, it's
about strength training and as the other, the other is
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your mindset.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Of course, you're you're at, you're sleep, you're sleep, you're.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Connection to community, you're you know, so called happiness quotient,
all of these things, and the disciplines that overlays.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
All of this, that you obviously have.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
No shortage of and that you know incorporates that discipline
is really what allows you to get up at five
in the morning and get to the gym, for example,
or work out after work when you're exhausted.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
But these are you.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Have a vision and a goal and you're not going
to be You're unrelenting and achieving your goals. So this
is something that I think inspires everyone. I can't tell
say enough about your book that people should read it
and be inspired.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Thanks, Michelle, look at something that I fell in love with.
I've met some phenomenal people through the whole journey like you.
They met you and Rob and everybody.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Like you inspired.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
You inspired me because you know, honestly, I just can't
imagine at sixty six doing what you've done. I mean,
I know it's possible because I look at you, and
I look at the you know, like my friend Mary ABOUTO,
she just won the IFBB. I think in somewhere I
saw her on Instagram and look at her. She's in
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her late fifties or mid fifties, and look at her
body and how she's worked so hard.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
And I just want to tell everybody that. So my
goal for this year was, and it's coming up in
about three weeks, was competing in the World Masters Championships Pittsburgh. Yeah,
able to know to get the promoter to put my
age group into the champ because several years ago and
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I was the World Master's Champion bodybuilder in the two
hundred and twelve pound division of seventy plus. So but
I'm on competing a men's physique and if I win,
then I will be the number one seventy plus men's
physique champion in the whole world.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
And I bet you're going to win. I'm totally there
with you, and I believe in you.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
But you know, I tell everybody, Michelle, and I think
that is that I believe that everybody is a winner
because the ability of all these people that are training
and eating properly and getting on stage and doing their thing.
We're all winners. That's how I look at everybody. It's
just something that I've come to love to do with
my patients. I kind of share with them and teach
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them what I've learned. And the thing again I think
maybe we can end is that all I'm asking people
to do is to try to make an f to
just remember it takes one step first to do a mile.
And that's all that was John F.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Kennedy, right, one smallest step, one step was a thousand
whatever he was, whatever he said was so so important, right,
A thousand mile journey begins with a one with one step,
and that's what you've done. Well, Ken, I don't want
to cut you off what we are at the close,
and I want to be sure people know how to
reach you. Can you give us the logistics if somebody
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wants to have a console with you.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, Look, I have no price. You can on my
office number. Feel free to call me uh and the
office I'll always get back to you. Leave a message.
UH is nine seven three seven four four seven four
four seven. You can look at our website also, which
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is info I n FO at Davis dabi s ahs
dot com, or you can direct message me send me
a text message at two one nine six one two
two nine zero.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
And if people have watched this podcast and they mentioned ageless,
is there something that you would offer to them for
the first console. I don't want to put you on
the spot, but you know, a lot of times our
guests like to incentivize, and I usually ask before we
go live, but we didn't have time today, so far I.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Would I would certainly offer, ah, what would be the
word I use, Michelle? A discounted rate or yeah, I mean,
or if you want I'll do I'll do a I'll
do a discounted rate on our new patient evaluation, or
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if you want to commit to a screening of about
ten or fifteen circuits to show you what your priority
is and then if you like it, then you can
become a new you know, it's you know what I
want to Okay?
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Well, okay, so we will put in the show notes
all that you just said. However, we should put a
number next to that. So what would you suggest.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Put my put to a one nine six one two
two nine zero.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Okay. Then if they say, ah, less we watched days time.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Just if they get my message voice, just leave me
a message, okay, tell me who you are and the
best time to get a hold of.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
You, okay, and then and then you'll work out the
logistics based and the pricing based.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
On the individual's needs. Perfect, Ken, Thank you so much,
Happy birthday, and we really can't wait to hear about
the end of this month and what happens to you.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
And I will get hold of you anyway one of
these days in person, so we can wait.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Well, we're going to meet surely at a four a m.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
In December, if not before, so I know you're going
to the Olympiad, right, That's that's.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
When my goal to get there absolutely.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Okay, all right, well, thank you so much. I'm going
to sign off and say thank you again.
Hello, everyone, This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. Today,
I have a guest who I've been talking to now
for a few months and he was introduced to me
by our mutual friend Rob Fletcher, who is a top
Doctor magazine executive.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And his name, my guest name.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Is doctor Ken Davis. And Ken welcome to Ageless and Timeless.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thanks Michelle, excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, you and I've had a little history.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We were on Rob's podcast together, I was on your podcast,
and now it's.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Your turn to be on my podcast. So we have
a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
There so many subjects that we didn't cover in the
other two podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So are you ready to go?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm ready to go, right all right.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, why don't you first tell us who you are and.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Your journey to where you are today you have I'm
just preface it by telling everyone that doctor Davis is
a renaissance man, a true renaissance man, and.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We call him and he's going to.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Tell us all about that. But why didn't you give
us a little history can of who little Ken was?
Who little Ken was seventy years ago? And sorry to
tell everybody your age, but it's truly a test.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Actually, I have a birthday this week.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Michelle, Oh you're kidding what number?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm the leo uh seventy three. This renaissance man grew
up in Patterson, New Jersey, home of lu Costello, one
of the first cult forty five manufacturing factories. Very interesting city,
very multicultural. I loved it and God very heavily involved
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at sports early on as a kid. But one day
my mom took me to the dentist office had an appointment,
and being I guess a young kid at seven or eight,
I was fascinated, and I guess they still do it,
I don't even know. Had all the dental molds in
the in the window that you could look at from
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the waiting room, and I became fascinated with that. And
at that point, at seven, I decided I wanted to
be a dentist my whole life, you know. So I
played sports. I got a baseball scholarship. I was offered
a scholarship from high school to go to college, which
I did down in Erskine College in due West, South Carolina. School.
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But what happened was, but as destiny has it, I
went down started playing baseball and got homesick for my
high school sweetheart, and I said, I got to come home.
So as soon as I transferred home, I was supposed
to start the I believe that January, my high school
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supposedly sweetheart broke up with me.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So but no, don't be because it was if she
didn't and I didn't go, if I didn't come home
to transfer, I would have never become a chiropractice. And
what I did, so it was really a godsend. As
I look at it, it was destiny that that would happen,
because so I went to school. And but what happened
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was my journey, was that I met this young fellow
and we became very very very very close friends who
was studying actually as I was to bs Tog. He
was going to be a medical doctor and he is
today a very famous one actually, And as we studied together,
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he invited me at one point and says, look, why
didn't you come with me tonight to my chiropractice. I didn't.
I had no idea what a chiropractor was, what they
did and so forth. So I said sure, because he
would go for he said, I go to my chiropractor
for attention headaches from studying. He said, okay, I'll come.
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So I went with him to this nice gentleman who
had a two room office. He was really adhering to
the philosophy of what chiropractic was meant to do and
was developed to do. And I just everything he explained
to me about it was don't mind my dog in
the background.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I see your dog, he's quiet. Anyway, Was that doctor Reach?
Was that?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
No? Not yet? This was his name was doctor Armand
it was not him, but the understanding of the philosophy
of the innate wisdom. See what drove me to want
to do this is because for some reason, I always
believed that the body's innate ability and the innate power
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within the body had the ability to heal itself if
there was interference, be moved. And I just kept asking,
and I went with my friend every week until finally
I experienced having a chiropractic adjustment by him. It was great,
and I just fell in love with the philosophy and
(05:27):
I said, this is what I want to do, and
I applied.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So how old were you? How old were you then
or how young?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Twenty one?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Okay, so this was at the end of.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Your colleague at the end of our go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'm sorry, no, no, when did you meet doctor Reis
because I know he was your mentor and you mentioned
him to me before that he changed your life.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I mean, there are always people I think your life
that are you know, the people that changed who we are.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We are as particularly early on to shape our perceptions.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So in your case, I think you told me that
was doctor Reese.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It was doctor Rees and the way in which I
met him, you see. So when I finally first of all,
the chiropractice school that I got accepted with was on
seventy first Street in Manhattan. That's where everybody went in
this one big building. And I was supposed to start
school there, and about a week before I got a
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phone call from the administration saying the school is not
going to be in New York any longer. It's going
to be out in Long Island, the north shore of
Long Island in Northvale, utilizing the New York Institute of
Technologies campus. So I was the first class out at
this new and they had purchased property across and they
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were going to build a new school. So I was
the first class out there. So I remember I had
to find a place to live real quick, and I
found on this lovely older couple had a beautiful home
in Minneola, New York.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I know Minneola very well.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Where I was, and I was on the I had
the whole second floor. So it was a Friday night
and I'm supposed to start on Monday, and I'm sitting
there twenty twenty one years old, like like, what am
I doing here? You know, is this one earlier what
I'm going to be doing for the rest of my life?
So a little voice said, I decided that I started
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calling chiropractice up on the phone, and I know who
I was, And then I was starting school and can
I come and work for you. I don't want to
be paid. I'll sweep your floors, I'll wash your windows.
I just want to learn shadow.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You wanted to be a shadow.
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Speaker 3 (08:48):
Wanted to shadow and about the fiftieth chiropractor said, probably
that I called on the phone said, come on over,
was Ronnie Goodmore. And Ronnie was in Huntington, Long Island,
and actually his brother Gary had just finished school and
(09:09):
opened actually in a town right from where I eventually
opened my first practice. So Ronnie was phenomenal and I
used to so in his office. I would he had
a very high volume practice. He was a very fine chiropractice,
very philosophical, and I would record his findings. He would
call it out cervical five on the right and lumbar three,
(09:34):
and I would write it for him, and I watched,
and then I learned he had a very special technique
that he used that required very sophisticated X ray marketing
and X ray developing. So I developed all his X
rays and I would call it out and tell him
the line that he had to set up on the
X ray, and he taught me how the system. But
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there was something. So one day, after so many weeks
being in his office, he brings these blocks out that
look like wedges, And I said, Ronnie, what are these
blocks or wedges? Says they're called They're from a system,
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chiropractical system called SOT Sacral occipital technique. Fascinating. So I
see him put them onto the hips of the patient.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I've had that done.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's called a blocking procedure right. Sometimes the blocks were
put on the patient when they were lying on their
stomach or in the prone position right, or on their back,
So he said, fascinating. So all of this, he goes
to the back office, takes out the Green Book as
I call it nineteen seventy four, gives me the book
(10:53):
to read. So I devoured the book. So every day
I worked, I believe two or three days a week,
I would write questions down and ask him about what
this meant. And some of them really because it was
kind of just beginning to learn it, so it was
kind of neophyting the technique. So in about two weeks
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I knew more than he did just by reading the book.
Devowered the book you and.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
You you were still going to classes, right, you were
getting degree. So this is kind of a vocational, vocational
experience to augment your studies. And it was basically out
in the real world. So not a lot of people
get to do that, and you are really lucky that
he took you on. So yeah, I want to jump
I don't want to dwell too much on that because
(11:44):
I want to jump ahead because I want people who
are watching to know more about what you do as
well as who you are. So let's just kind of
summarize it by saying that you were one of those
people that was very proactive and that you went to
find your opportunities.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You didn't just sit.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Back and wait for them to happen you and know
that shows up in your your history of sports as well.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So and that you came back because of a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But you know, they say that everything happens for a reason,
so that was supposed to happen, and you know, sometimes
we look back and we say, oh, now I understand
why I got a broken heart, but I got a
new career.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So yeah, well, you know, I never looked at it
that way, Michelle. That's a great y, right, So let's
fast forward.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So now, okay, we're now in you know, twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And twenty five, and here we are at forty seven years.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You've been practicing.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Correct forty eight years.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Forty eight okay, sorry, one year later and you're going
to be one year older on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So time does move on.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, So what is it that you're doing at the
David Help.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Advanced Health System? What is it that you're doing that
makes you unique?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I just want to go back for a second. Justice.
The point is in the relating back to doctor Rehees
that I eventually became a certified instructor in this system
that incorporates the block procedures of the categorization, but also
many other disciplines within it, which are craniopathy the ability
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to a craniopath is someone that's educated and is trained
to evaluate cranial motion and corrective components. Also, the SOT
system is visceral manipulation, the ability to affect organ dysfunction
and bring an organ back to life. Really with nutritional support.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
That's huge.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Oh, it's unbelievable. That's huge.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Mean that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
In the and does that does that put you in
a category of an osteopath in addition to being a chiropractic, because.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
They are the osteopathic. The element of osteopathy is that
it's very difficult to find a classical osteopath that's doing
classic osteopathy. Uh, to go ahead, But you know, I
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was invited. I had an associate, UH, French trained osteopath
working in my office a few years ago, who I
met my town here, Montclair, and she I was invited
and I taught at the osteopathic school in Paris m
several several days. And the French trained osteopath first of all,
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are phenomenal practitioners, and they go to school for six years,
not four years, and their specialty is cranial technique and
manipulation primarily. So also Dejarnet, doctor MB Dejarnet, who developed
psycrao occipital technique, was himself also an osteopath in addition
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to being a chiropractor. His teacher was William Garner Sutherland,
and Sutherland is famous osteopath, was a developer of cranial osteopathy.
So and I learned and became a certified preaneopath through Dejarnet.
So I had this whole kind of lineage that led
up to the process. But just a little bit more.
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Doctor Reese was a principal researcher and developer within the
st organization and produced this incredible body of research that
I did not see. No one else was producing this,
And I heard stories about him that his work and
research was done early in the morning before work and
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late at night. So when you're certified as an instructor,
you're required to attend so and teach us two seminars
a year somewhere in the United States. And every time
I went to teach, Doc was always, as we affectually
called him, he was always there at the seminar, and
I would always make sure that I would go and
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attend his class and see and it was always mind blowing.
Plus once a year Dejarnett in Omaha, Nebraska would have
a week long symposium of all the different techniques and
procedures of the SRT system, and Reese again was always there.
Then one day, so I was already following and reading
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his books. But when I saw him begin to do
his thing on stage and demonstrate that was it, and
I just started following everything that he did.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So that's what you incorporate into your practice today.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
The foundational exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
But also when we spoke before, there was another uniqueness
about you that I wanted.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
To present back to you today to discuss, and that
is that you.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Know, many many people just focus on the physical, but
you are a body minded spirit and your approach to
your practice, to your discipline.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So could you talk.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
About that for a moment, Just tell us how body
minded spirit?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I hold the chart up, sor right, and I hold
the chart up.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh yeah, for sure. Absolutely. If you have something there
of course, Oh there we go. Love it? Okay, Okay,
explain that.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Is this what you show to your patience when they
come in the first time?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
This is what I educate everybody to. Okay, this is
what I learned forty something years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Tell us, tell us.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
This is what separates me from everybody else, tankes me
one thousand different. We believe that's what everybody tells.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Okay, So tell us what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
One of the things I had my foundation that I
learned many years ago is what's known as the triang
of well being. So this triangle, if you, if you
can put yourself for every person is this triangle of
well being that exists on this planet today. And again
this triangle, so just put yourself there. So there's the
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physical that makes us up, bones, nerve, blood, organ gland, tissue.
And then we have this side of a triangle.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And and and sells sells, which are the convolution kind
of well being.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, and we have this element, the second part of
the trial anger, which is the mind, our thoughts, our feelings,
our emotions, our desires, sentiments and so forth. Right, then
we have this side. Now here's where people always ask me,
which is because also our system is non denominational, so
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it doesn't matter what we really it's not about a religion,
so a lot of people that could be agnostic, atheists, whatever.
And he says, well, what do you mean the spirit
or this? And that I said, the spirit is the
essence of who and what we really are. And whether
you believe in whatever, we have to acknowledge at least
that there is an energy within us. Then we're we're
alive and it's not when we're not. And that energy
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has a lot to do with driving the mind and
the body component. But to me, the spirit is the
essence of who and what we really are, the spiritual
being having this physical human experience, not a physical woman
trying to have a spiritual experience in three component elements
that make us up as this spiritual human being that
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we are. The thing is that I learned and thousands
and thousands of patients, beginning with Reese, is that the
physical where humanity suffers only one percent. I don't care
what it is, cancer, heart disease, back pain, headaches, or
whatever is manifesting, only one percent of it originates physical
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as a cause only.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
That's a pretty mind blowing statement, as you can imagine,
most people would not resonate.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
With Dutch because they don't get that there's this integrative
being that's made up of all our thoughts, our reality watches.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I here's an interesting thing coming up, right, So then
we have this weight of the triangle of the mind
that accounts for nine percent as the underlying component element
creating humanities ills and breakdown. Then the spiritual angle is
ninety percent of the cause of humanities ells. But the
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thing is that see, the essence of who we really
are is the light. But if I have so disruption
and see this is always attempting to express itself at
one hundred percent, but certain elements of life create lamp
shades around this, So the light may become dim which
could be a bad experience in Hebrew school or a
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Catholic school, or a divorce or a breakup, or praying
to God help this person heal and it doesn't happen,
and a person loses their faith or they whatever. All
of that creates a disruption or a distortion in this element. Also,
remember Pythagoras, the ancient mathematician, said, if you have a
triangle and you this is an important part for the
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audience to understand. If you have a triangle and I
change any angle of a triangle, what's going to happen
to all the angles? They all change. Now that's an
important concept in our system, which is that one angle
when imbalance, is going to affect all of the angles.
So if you have a mental emotional major problem, it's
going to alter you through your physical body, whether it's
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your chemistry, your immune system, your digestive system, your hormone system,
and whatever. So it's kind of like the analogy I
use a lot. If you have a leak in your
ceiling of your bathroom and it's breaking up your tile
and your groud, it's going to keep happening until you
fix the leak, and so that's an important concept. One
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angle affects them all. So that's why, over the years
and also teaching other doctors, you have to become proficient
not only in a system where you're dealing with the
underlying cause, but also what's kind of getting beat up.
So that's where all your other nutrition, biochemistry, understandingone viscual manipulation,
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cranial structural correction to be able to also repair what's
being affected, but also having a system that can address
the underlying problem. The thing is, though, let's go to
this and then we'll come back. We believe and I
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believe that inherent in all of us there's a triune
or of a blueprint of perfection that exists as a template,
like a blueprint that built a house. But this template,
this perfect triune right is affected by layers of the
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onion that construct themselves. Due to the fact that as
a human being, we are exposed greatly to fight or
flight response. Since the caveman, the caveman. When the sabre
tooth tiger was running after the caveman, he did two things.
He either killed it and brought the food home for
his family, or he took off and ran that fight
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or flight. The question is when we have a stress response,
is our ability of our nervous system's ability to be
able to adapt to the stress, recover and move on
with life. No, or we can't or the stimulus is
too much which I have listed. Is then that gets
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recorded as a layer of our onion somewhere in its
effect in our soft tissue, in our organ functions, glandular
and our energy fields that run in and around the body.
So what happens when you see a new patient, someone
suffering or in pain. They have an accumulation of these
layers of the onion that have been built since inception.
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And if you believe in karma or reincarnation, it's brought
forth from another time as well.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, so can I have a question? Sorry to interrupt you,
but let's just say a new patient comes in. I
mean this is now.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Multi factorial what you're dealing with, and you know you're
the doctor, are faced with getting to know a patient
in a defined period of time in order.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
To be able to affect change. And many of those patients.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Don't even know what those other two aspects are, the
spiritual and the emotional.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You know, they know that physically they.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Don't feel right, but they don't go deep enough to
know the other two. So how do you as a
doctor get to penetrate into the psychological, the emotional, the spiritual?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
How do you get there from A to B?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well, first of all, I make it my business. This
is one of the things. I'm always available to all
of my patients. And whenever a new patient calls my
office up on the phone, I always make sure that
I always call them back and talk to them first
before they make the appointment.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
And why do you do that? What do you talk about?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I want to understand what it is that First of all,
I always I always want to know who referred them.
I also I practice I don't take it on a
patient unless I know who referred them. Yeah, that's the
thing that I need to know who that is. Then
what I do is that I want to know what
their major problem is and then I give them a
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brief synopsis of why. And a lot of people have
heard that they don't understand totally what I do, but
I've heard that they have to come and see me
because of what I do, even though they don't stand
it totally yet. And I kind of give them a
brief understanding of that of what we're talking about now,
right when they come into the office and they go
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for their evaluation. Initially, before I even stand them up
and look at them, I immediately I begin to explain
to them why I'm different, kind of like I'm doing now.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Okay, However, you still have to peel those layers of
that onion, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And like I said, many people don't know how to
go deeper. They're not introspective.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You're dealing with peopleople who react rather than you know, investigate.
They're reacting to what they feel, but they're not looking
at the reasons why, uh, and into the other two
areas that are more subjective.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I'm just I'm just curious because.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I want my viewers to understand that this is not
something that's just an ABC that you can say, Okay,
I'm going to go see doctor Davis and it's just
going to be a one off. You know, we're going
to have a talk.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
He's going to ask me, what's bothering me? What pain
I have? He's going to do some adjustments.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
It isn't that at all in your case, you're like
a part psychologist.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
As well as.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Been accused of it.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yes, okay, so you know the question really is you
know what's your what's your secret sauce that gets you
to get underneath those layers of the onion.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
To get people to open up and be able to talk. Well.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
The thing is also that I tell them see and
they get it. They can get see this. I tell them.
This is the reason why, whether it's the alternative world
or the medical world, you cannot treat the person the
sin because the underline, even though and then the analogy
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or the metaphor I've used for decades is that so
let's say you have a thousand patients that have Crohn's disease.
I'm just making this up. The point is is that
even though you have a thousand patients that have crone
disease or a chronic lower back problem or lymphoma, the
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origin or the causative factor may not be the same
in certain percentage of them. So three hundred dollars come
from the physical as a cause four hundred come from
this side and the rest come from that side. How
the hell do you know? There's no system that's been
developed to be oh wow, the blood. We developed a
system fifty forty five years ago that can identify where
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the origin of the problem is in a matter of minutes,
of where it comes from, of what angle of the
triangle it comes from. We have a testing system utilizing
specific reflexes or assessment points. And also remember one of
the things that I am is I'm gonna apply kinesiologists.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yes, I was just going to say that, So you
use muscle testing kinesiology, so as you ask them questions
that bridge into the spiritual and the other mental self
in order to get their weakness right away.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's really cool. So okay, explore that with us a
little further.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
With so we've so, for example, over the years, we've
created reflexes that first of all relate to the body angle,
to the mind angle, relate to the spiritual angle.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So do you do you ask if question like how
happy are you happy? I mean that's kind of a.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yes or no one of the questions I.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I can oh one of the I have many things
like that because see also One of the things that
doctor Reese taught us the Inner group is that this
is important for your viewers and listeners. Your subconscious mind
is the greatest physician in the whole world. Why it
records every scrap of information that has ever happened to you.
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And if you have a to access or querry the subconscious,
which we do, then you can. Now you can get
established information. So the point is, also we learned, is
that your conscious mind never tells the truth. Never, It
just gives the information to your subconscious mind, which has
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all the truth. So, yeah, do I ask a question,
you know, my question is that the end of their
report of findings, I asked them. Also, let me just
explain something too about muscle testing when you must. First
of all, we do not whether or not one does it,
doesn't do it feels they're right, not right. We do
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not advocate pendulum testing or a lot of people are
using their fingers to ask questions. We don't believe that's
an accurate, clear way because the mind, the practitioner's mind,
usually gets in the way of allowing their educated mind
to determine the answer. We don't think that that's accurate,
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and I haven't and this is personally speaking. So in
addition to muscle testing, one of the things that I've
used for forty eight years is what's called an arm
mentor a surrogate. I use another person, and another person
is called one mind removed, which means yeah, I do,
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which is you can also use a someone who's neutral
and has been programmed a specific way to be a
neutral and to create a greater circuit to the subconscious
mind of the patient. So when I use a surrogate,
They're able to touch an area of the patient and
I'm able to utilize a response component in the arm
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of the surrogate. They have nothing to do with the
diagnostic and it's about one hundred percent accurate. And this
is what doctor Reese did for sixty years of being
in practice. So, but getting back to individual, when we
do a muscle test, whether you're left to or righty,
we always use the right arm of the patient in
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our testing mode. Why because there's more motor and sentory
innervation to the right arm of a human being than
any other part of the body than the lips. But
we haven't valuated to test the lips yet, so we
use the right arm. So it's a highly accurate way
of getting information. So also there are specific ways that
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we teach in our seminars and our classes of how
to properly test and the type of different types of
the public's arm that come in. There's a there's a
definitive arm, there's a wavy arm, there's a given arm,
there's a resistant arm. Something that I've encountered in all
these years of so many thousands of people that have
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come in, and what your account and you know what
you're finding in the way in which you test somebody.
But going back, so for example, at the end of
my evaluation with somebody, and I explained everything to them,
you know, one of the questions I asked them, I
want to get better. You know, if there are we
(33:45):
may stroll. And that's a belief system. Yes, from this,
it's like a lie detector. Yes, I want to get better.
Another I shall ask, is I believe I can be better?
Get better? You know what happens with a lot of
people The arm goes weak. Well, yes, we have an
issue here. Another question I'll ask is I'll do anything
(34:06):
that it takes to get better. A lot of people
who want to go down, they won't pop for varying reasons.
These are the things that I address with a new patient. Uh,
I'm ready to make I'm ready to invest in myself,
even financially. Sometimes I know, because I understand that people
(34:27):
have a life to live, they have to put food
on the table. But sometimes we tend to do the
things that we need to. You know, people will go
and do what they want to do based upon their
belief system. But a lot of people, and I've seen
this over the years, make unfortunately finances and money an
issue over the maintenance and establishment of good health. And
(34:49):
then it comes you know, the cliche is, oh, well,
there's no amount of money that you know, yeah, until
it becomes an issue. So also so these questions are
part of my examination on somebody. One of the questions
when I evaluate them initially is I asked this question
(35:12):
on a scale of zero to ten. Tell me the
level of joy you feel when you wake up in
the morning the first thing. But and I say, I'm
not talking about the joy you have for your children
or your dog or whatever. The level of joy that
you feel, Hey, it's a new day, it's joyous and whatever.
(35:37):
And a lot of people or not out of ten
and I say, what's that about? So you know, these
are the type of things that I talk to people
about initially before we eve move forward, and then and
then to really establish and address some of these things
because they can greatly be impacting their health and their
(35:59):
wellbeing process.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And are you using any equipment like a beamer or
some of these energetic.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
The only equipment that I use adjunctively to my to
my ability to the way in which I'm utilizing and
accessing the energy and the vibrations that we use is
I have what's called an uh AH, a light being
generator machine, which is a lymphatic drainage machine utilizes medical
(36:29):
oxygen that converts through the machine into saturated ozone, which
has been very effective treatment of limes disease and varying infections,
but also just on generalized lymphatic flow in the body
earlier all these years. Is that apart from it, I
(36:49):
think you know a little bit about my history of
using what's called or being one of the leading researchers
and developers and what's called a theoic modification patient therapy
or harmonics, which is something that doctor Reese developed and
a principal teacher in an organization for me, you know,
(37:10):
the organization is really no longer, but is something that's
a big part of my practice from a vibrational energetic perspective.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
So, what of all the applications that you've described, which
one would you say has more efficacy for healing if
you could single out, or is it all integrated into
a bigger picture like you just described with the body
minded spirits side.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I mean, is there is there a technique that you
know is kind.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Of full proof that will always have an impact on
a positive impact on.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Your that we've been teaching for over thirty years called
natural force healing.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Natural force healing.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
By the way, your dog is on your out.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
That's the face. Yeah, he's fine, Okay, that's the favorite place, right. Yeah.
So natural force haling is a vibrational system that utilizes
very amplified energy vibration and frequencies or what we call
(38:22):
levels of energies. So maybe at some other point, you know,
if you have me back, I'll go deeper into that
whole component. But now, these levels of energies that we've
researched and developed are applied on a person through specific
hand placements on specific points of the body in a
(38:45):
way in which we've learned over many decades of how
we of how energy moves in the universe and how
to access it and how to amplify it. Also, you know,
being involved with vibrational therapy for again for almost fifty years,
you know, I've seen many many things come about, you know,
(39:07):
And the problem, you know, not to be judgmental with
a lot of these energetic and vibrational systems that have
evolved over the years. My experience with them is that
there's no background or depth or really understanding of how
energy moves in the universe. The fact that there is
positive energy and there is negative energy, and that's a
(39:28):
lot of people that are so called healers do not
believe that there's and there is because as you grow,
so does the opponent. And a lot of negative energy
that we can a person can bring forth as a
healer to an affect the patient can't have a negative
effect on them. But in the system of natural force healing,
(39:49):
there are specific energy vibrations and frequencies that we've learned
about to access and amplify them to be used on
how it affects the patient. So there are what we
can called levels of energies that relate to the body
angle when we test. So there's twelve major levels of
the work and natural force healing. Different levels, as we
(40:09):
call them, utilize specific frequencies but very specific on how
they impact the patient. For example, if we tested a
patient and they were let's say in the body angle,
the primary angle being the physical, we would there are
of those twelve levels, Levels one, two, three, and four
(40:32):
are the levels that we would tests that work to
bring the physical side of the triangle back into balance
if they were in the mind angle. Levels three, four, five,
and six relate to the mind and the rest relate
to the spirit. So for example, let's say I tested
and we have screening points to know which of those
levels of energies are needed. So for example, level one
(40:57):
so would be a position here we would test. Level
one deals with the meningial dural system, you know the
coverings over the brain and spinal cord, which are like
a tape recorder. So when we're in fight or flight response,
this dura, the meningual system can hold memory and keep
(41:19):
a person locked in a fight or flight response to
a particular area of life, many areas, so that person
is really not expressing to the world who they really are.
So an energy which our hand positions held a specific
way is an energy that can impact and amplify to
clear that meningial dural system out in a matter of
(41:42):
two minutes, where their whole spine changes and they're breathing
like they never did. So they move out of it.
And you know what happens with a lot of these
people when you when you change the miningual component, they
start crying. They start crying or laughing. Right there on
the table have all these releases. And when I first
started doing this years ago, a person after their treatment
(42:04):
was sitting in their car for an hour and a
half crime until they could drive. So Level three, for example,
relating to the mind. Level three utilizes as a different
hand position and a different point has two energies that
are used to this levels of energy remove in a
(42:31):
person fixed ideas, mental blocks, and limiting beliefs that hold
that person back in their lives. Level five, which is
tied into the mind, is another different hand position placed
around the sphenoid areas of the skull balance. It prevents
one area of the brain being overdominant in the other
(42:52):
one and then its effect on the cranium and all
the other energy centers. So each particular for example, level
two right, right and left, which comes up in the
physical angle and in the spiritual angle. So level two,
if it was there in the physical is causing physical
(43:13):
based karmic caused illness in a human being. This is
the person and that memory of that event, karmically speaking,
is held within the minidual system of a person.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Well, one thing we can say, ken is for everybody
that's watching it, is you're not going to go to
doctor Davis to just get an adjustment, which.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Is what adjustment? Right?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Well, I mean a lot of people think that that's
all that a chiropractor does. But obviously you're you're proving
and presenting to everyone that this is a multi layered,
multi dimensional system and you just you know, have to
look deeper in order to understand why you have the
issues that you have. It's it's not purely uh, just
(44:03):
superficial like a lot of people think, oh, I'll go
to my career back, you'll give me an adjustment and
I'll be much better.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
We get those people they think they're looking you know,
you know what I say to them, Michelle and I said,
my name is DA V I S not j E
s U S very good, you know, So let me.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Let me switch gears for a moment, because I want
people to know more about your bodybuilding and your books.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
So tell us about the two books that you wrote.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
And why you wrote them, and what the messages are
in those two books.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
The first book primarily that I wrote is called Climbing Mountains,
and that was more about the journey that I went
on with Lisa uh and myself, about our work with
doctor Reese, what we develop, the techniques, the systems, our
journeys around the globe, and so forth. The other book
(45:01):
that I wrote was actually started out to be a
follow up to the first book, based upon all the
travels that we went on with doctores all over the world,
utilizing being directed by you could say, the powers that
be to make changes throughout the world. We went to
every mystical place you could possibly be met and studied
(45:25):
ancient religions, the cultures in Tibet, China, Japan, Machu Pichu,
the Galapagos, Maui, Stonehenge, and I could go on and
on and on and on to get Israel, Egypt, the
Canary Islands, and so the second book and to learn
(45:48):
what we did there in our ability to access specific
energies and learn about them, and be able to use
these energies to change the weather, change weather patterns, work
to bring to the desert, to feed all kinds of
things that we did that people would think that we're
out of our mind in a certain way. But I
could tell stories for the next eight hours about miraculous
(46:11):
things that took place. Plus, in the making of these
harmonic devices, we use certain minerals and stones found to
vibrate a specific frequency in the way in which they
were made. And so again the second book started about
all the things that we learned on these journeys. And
then Marty Gallagher, who I wrote the book with, primarily said, Ken,
(46:36):
you have to your spiritual experience is tied to your
bodybuilding experience as well. I said it is, says, yeah,
of course you have to write about that. I said,
I do, yes, so, especially in light of so it
kind of took a turn and I just started talking
(46:56):
about it and writing about it so well.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I think people need to know that you started bodybuilding
at age sixty six and you are now turning seventy three.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
God, this is all in your.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
So called golden years where most people think it's time
to hang up their cleats and okay, all right, wow,
look at you.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
That's me.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Realistic bodies talk about an inspiration? There there it is
right there on the cover.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
You know what, I don't think. I don't hear from
people that, oh, oh not here your your photos. Did
you photoshop your head on that body?
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Oh I did not photoshop, but they kind of no.
I said, that's me.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, So okay, so this is somewhat miraculous. And as
most people would look at it, they say, how can
a sixty six year old they look like like that?
And what what did he have to get to that point?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
So why don't you give us? You know, we only
have five.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Minutes left, So in two minutes, tell us what because
I have another question.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
In two minutes, tell.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Us what you did? First of all? That again another
aha voice. Again. Being an athlete I had in one
of our wellness programs, I had a mother and daughter.
The mother who would have no problem mentioned Kathy Parachus
runs a gym up in close to New Jersey called
(48:26):
Destination Fitness, and Kathy was a patient of mine. In
one of my programs, her daughter Stephanie was as well,
who was a competitive bodybuilder at one point, and I
didn't see them. They did great, and about I was
looking at a Facebook feed months past and Stephanie had
put on eighty pounds and I couldn't believe it. And
then the next picture she got it off and competed
(48:46):
in bodybuilding. So I just went off in my head
and said that would be an unbelievable quest to do.
And I said, I'm going to do this, but if
I do it, I want to compete in the stage.
So I trained seven and a half months and got
up on stage. And but the thing is that I
(49:08):
was in my sixties. Then there was no sixty year
old class, right wow, But I did great. I didn't place,
but I held my own and everybody freaked out. They
couldn't believe I did it. I had to do it,
and that was it. I was hooked. The point is
is that the key to anti aging are these This
is what this book is really all about, not so
(49:28):
much about Ken Davis. It's about about following these steps
is what leads. And I know you know this already.
It's this is what it's about people. It's about proper
diet and nutrition. Two cardiovascular exercise, and three uh, it's
about strength training and as the other, the other is
(49:54):
your mindset.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Of course, you're you're at, you're sleep, you're sleep, you're.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Connection to community, you're you know, so called happiness quotient,
all of these things, and the disciplines that overlays.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
All of this, that you obviously have.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
No shortage of and that you know incorporates that discipline
is really what allows you to get up at five
in the morning and get to the gym, for example,
or work out after work when you're exhausted.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
But these are you.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Have a vision and a goal and you're not going
to be You're unrelenting and achieving your goals. So this
is something that I think inspires everyone. I can't tell
say enough about your book that people should read it
and be inspired.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Thanks, Michelle, look at something that I fell in love with.
I've met some phenomenal people through the whole journey like you.
They met you and Rob and everybody.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Like you inspired.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
You inspired me because you know, honestly, I just can't
imagine at sixty six doing what you've done. I mean,
I know it's possible because I look at you, and
I look at the you know, like my friend Mary ABOUTO,
she just won the IFBB. I think in somewhere I
saw her on Instagram and look at her. She's in
(51:16):
her late fifties or mid fifties, and look at her
body and how she's worked so hard.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
And I just want to tell everybody that. So my
goal for this year was, and it's coming up in
about three weeks, was competing in the World Masters Championships Pittsburgh. Yeah,
able to know to get the promoter to put my
age group into the champ because several years ago and
(51:45):
I was the World Master's Champion bodybuilder in the two
hundred and twelve pound division of seventy plus. So but
I'm on competing a men's physique and if I win,
then I will be the number one seventy plus men's
physique champion in the whole world.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
And I bet you're going to win. I'm totally there
with you, and I believe in you.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
But you know, I tell everybody, Michelle, and I think
that is that I believe that everybody is a winner
because the ability of all these people that are training
and eating properly and getting on stage and doing their thing.
We're all winners. That's how I look at everybody. It's
just something that I've come to love to do with
my patients. I kind of share with them and teach
(52:29):
them what I've learned. And the thing again I think
maybe we can end is that all I'm asking people
to do is to try to make an f to
just remember it takes one step first to do a mile.
And that's all that was John F.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Kennedy, right, one smallest step, one step was a thousand
whatever he was, whatever he said was so so important, right,
A thousand mile journey begins with a one with one step,
and that's what you've done. Well, Ken, I don't want
to cut you off what we are at the close,
and I want to be sure people know how to
reach you. Can you give us the logistics if somebody
(53:10):
wants to have a console with you.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, Look, I have no price. You can on my
office number. Feel free to call me uh and the
office I'll always get back to you. Leave a message.
UH is nine seven three seven four four seven four
four seven. You can look at our website also, which
(53:35):
is info I n FO at Davis dabi s ahs
dot com, or you can direct message me send me
a text message at two one nine six one two
two nine zero.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
And if people have watched this podcast and they mentioned ageless,
is there something that you would offer to them for
the first console. I don't want to put you on
the spot, but you know, a lot of times our
guests like to incentivize, and I usually ask before we
go live, but we didn't have time today, so far I.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Would I would certainly offer, ah, what would be the
word I use, Michelle? A discounted rate or yeah, I mean,
or if you want I'll do I'll do a I'll
do a discounted rate on our new patient evaluation, or
(54:31):
if you want to commit to a screening of about
ten or fifteen circuits to show you what your priority
is and then if you like it, then you can
become a new you know, it's you know what I
want to Okay?
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Well, okay, so we will put in the show notes
all that you just said. However, we should put a
number next to that. So what would you suggest.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Put my put to a one nine six one two
two nine zero.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Okay. Then if they say, ah, less we watched days time.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Just if they get my message voice, just leave me
a message, okay, tell me who you are and the
best time to get a hold of.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
You, okay, and then and then you'll work out the
logistics based and the pricing based.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
On the individual's needs. Perfect, Ken, Thank you so much,
Happy birthday, and we really can't wait to hear about
the end of this month and what happens to you.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
And I will get hold of you anyway one of
these days in person, so we can wait.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Well, we're going to meet surely at a four a m.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
In December, if not before, so I know you're going
to the Olympiad, right, That's that's.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
When my goal to get there absolutely.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Okay, all right, well, thank you so much. I'm going
to sign off and say thank you again.
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