May 27, 2025 • 58 mins
In this enlightening episode of Ageless & Timeless, host Michele Hughes welcomes renowned pharmacist and researcher Dr. Nayan Patel, widely regarded as the “father of glutathione.” With over 30 years in pharmaceutical science and nutraceutical innovation, Dr. Patel shares the groundbreaking journey behind Glutaryl, his patented transdermal glutathione product.
Together, Michele and Dr. Patel delve into the critical role glutathione plays in cellular repair, detoxification, mitochondrial function, and aging. Dr. Patel explains why traditional delivery methods like IVs and liposomal glutathione often fall short—and how his topical solution achieves rapid, intracellular absorption with lasting results.
This episode uncovers why oxidative stress is the silent root of many chronic conditions, why most people over 30 are already depleted, and how lifestyle choices—from alcohol to air quality—impact our internal chemistry. Dr. Patel also shares why glutathione is synergistic with amino acids, magnesium, and hormone regulation, and how his nutrient-packed skincare line extends these benefits to the skin.
Listeners will walk away with a better understanding of:
● Why glutathione is called “the master antioxidant”
● How oxidative stress affects energy, sleep, memory, immunity, and longevity
● Signs of glutathione deficiency—and the surprising reasons behind morning sickness
● The relationship between gut health, serotonin, and detoxification
● Daily habits to preserve and replenish this critical molecule
Product Info:
Try Glutaryl and Glutaryl Plus at www.aurowellness.com
Use Michele’s exclusive discount code AGELESS at checkout.
Listen to this inspiring conversation and discover how to activate your body’s innate healing power—starting at the cellular level.
Medical Disclaimer – Ageless and Timeless Podcast
Ageless and Timeless (the “Show”), along with its host and guests, shares insights and discussions on health, wellness, and longevity for informational and educational purposes only. The Show does not provide medical advice, diagnoses, treatments, cures, or preventative recommendations for any disease or health condition. The content shared should not be used as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.
While we strive to feature reputable sources and knowledgeable guests, neither Ageless and Timeless nor its host or affiliates assume responsibility for errors, omissions, or misinterpretations in the information provided. Listeners are encouraged to use their own discretion and consult with a licensed medical professional before making any health-related decisions. By listening to this podcast, you acknowledge that any actions you take based on the information presented are at your own risk, and Ageless and Timeless, its host, guests, and affiliates are not liable for any direct,
indirect, incidental, or consequential damages resulting from the use of this content.
Together, Michele and Dr. Patel delve into the critical role glutathione plays in cellular repair, detoxification, mitochondrial function, and aging. Dr. Patel explains why traditional delivery methods like IVs and liposomal glutathione often fall short—and how his topical solution achieves rapid, intracellular absorption with lasting results.
This episode uncovers why oxidative stress is the silent root of many chronic conditions, why most people over 30 are already depleted, and how lifestyle choices—from alcohol to air quality—impact our internal chemistry. Dr. Patel also shares why glutathione is synergistic with amino acids, magnesium, and hormone regulation, and how his nutrient-packed skincare line extends these benefits to the skin.
Listeners will walk away with a better understanding of:
● Why glutathione is called “the master antioxidant”
● How oxidative stress affects energy, sleep, memory, immunity, and longevity
● Signs of glutathione deficiency—and the surprising reasons behind morning sickness
● The relationship between gut health, serotonin, and detoxification
● Daily habits to preserve and replenish this critical molecule
Product Info:
Try Glutaryl and Glutaryl Plus at www.aurowellness.com
Use Michele’s exclusive discount code AGELESS at checkout.
Listen to this inspiring conversation and discover how to activate your body’s innate healing power—starting at the cellular level.
Medical Disclaimer – Ageless and Timeless Podcast
Ageless and Timeless (the “Show”), along with its host and guests, shares insights and discussions on health, wellness, and longevity for informational and educational purposes only. The Show does not provide medical advice, diagnoses, treatments, cures, or preventative recommendations for any disease or health condition. The content shared should not be used as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.
While we strive to feature reputable sources and knowledgeable guests, neither Ageless and Timeless nor its host or affiliates assume responsibility for errors, omissions, or misinterpretations in the information provided. Listeners are encouraged to use their own discretion and consult with a licensed medical professional before making any health-related decisions. By listening to this podcast, you acknowledge that any actions you take based on the information presented are at your own risk, and Ageless and Timeless, its host, guests, and affiliates are not liable for any direct,
indirect, incidental, or consequential damages resulting from the use of this content.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Good morning everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. I have
a wonderful guest today, and I know I say that
every single time, but this is a very special man
that I met at the American Academy of Anti Aging
in Las Vegas last December. And his name is doctor
Nion Patel and doctor Pateell, welcome to Ageless and Timeless.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, thanks for having me to you today. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, I know we did this kind of a last meeting.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You've been on my list for all these months, and
I knew I was talking to your staff and I
knew I was going to come back to you, but
we're booked out for a year in advance, and so
finally I had a little cancelation and I was able
to You were on the first on my list, so
I was able to get you in.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So thank you for being so responsive and being able
to do this today. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, let me just tell everybody a little bit about
you and then I'm going to let you take over.
So doctor Patel is a is a pharmacist. He's You've
been in pharmacy for thirty years? Correct, yes, and he
is what I call the father of glue to thione.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So I know there are others. I get a lot
of emails.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
From people trying to sell glutathione, and it's it's you know,
it's it's known as the master antioxidant. And I can
remember even twenty years ago when I'd go to my
functional medicine doctor and he'd say, Okay, we're going to
give you an iv with and it has to have
blue to thione in it because you cannot absorb bluetoothione
(01:44):
any other way but through an iv So that was
how I always thought, you know that gluetithione.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Was going to be absorbed into the body. Well now
I know differently.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And I'm going to let doctor burtell tell you about
his product called blutol. Well he has two gluterol and
gluterol plus, and he'll tell us the difference.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But uh, these are transdermal and.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So much easier than having to go to get an
ivy and you can do you can do the treatment
write at home and only four sprays a day or
eight sprays a day, four in the morning and four
at night.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So doctor Mittel, this is just so exciting because.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Glutathion is probably one of the most important ingredients we
can put in our bodies, and why don't you tell
us why?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Absolutely? So? Uh, the why came to me a long
time ago because being a pharmacist, we have so much
medications that we work with on a daily basis that
that I thought that we're going to solve the problem
for helping people live a long, healthy life. In reality,
what I've really found out was after graduate from pharmacist school,
(02:56):
that all we were doing was just managing people's problems.
We're not solving any problems. And so it basically came
to me that there there has to be something else
that we are missing, and drugs is not gonna be
the answer for that. And quickly I realized that a
body is our own chemistry. Has everything that we need
(03:18):
is inside a body. We just figure out what that
molecule is that we need to work on or enhance
it or make sure it's available to the body all
the time, and if we can do that part, we
can have a basically a long healthy life. And so
I always look at said, Okay, what is one thing.
(03:38):
If it's just one thing, what is that one thing?
And the only way I can I can talk about
cloathot is because cloth out is the most abundant molecule
prodution human body. Right, the two things that we need
without that we can survive is water and air. Right,
if you cannot breathe, if you start drinking water, there's
(03:59):
a time to be you're going to pass out and
die right anywhere from a few minutes to a few days,
but that's a finale time. Same thing with glthion. Gluten
is the most amputter molecule. Without glurton, there is no
neutralizing of the free radicals, there is no detoxification happening.
It's like basically a whole body from inside all clogged up,
(04:21):
and there's a time limited from where when it starts
cleaning your body up to when you're going to pass
out and die. And so my job was, okay, if
gluton is that molecule, I thought that, hey, we have
known glue out for one hundred and forty plus years,
we should have all the answers by now. And guess
what we had. No answers. No answers. And the reason
(04:44):
is because there's never been a product that it's available
in the marketplace that can enhance those levels on every
human beings on this planet. And so that's why I
started working glut on twenty five plus years ago, just
trying to figure out is there something that I can
do to service humanity and give it, give something or
(05:08):
or brings signs to basically get you glute out inside
your body.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So, actually, what you're saying is that you have a
passion to heal the human condition, and that passion is
what guided you to this path. And there I'm sure
have been some detoys or some side tracking along the way.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I know, vitamin C was always the big you know, secure.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
All everybody said, oh, yeah, if you have a cold,
the only thing you should do is take vitamin C.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
That's going to cure you. Now, of course we know that,
you know, vitamin.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
D three and K two and and other antioxidants and
glutathione are critical for just even the common cold.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So along the way.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
What what challenges did you face to get the point
where you are today?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So my challenges were different. I was I was not
competing with other molecules. I was competing with the delivery
system because I already knew a human body does not
produce vitamin C. So it's it's not something that the
body needs. Yes, we have some issues and we made
need a small amount of vitamin C, but then you
(06:23):
can get from your diet all day long. So it's
not like something that we need abundance off. And so
my challenge was a little bit different. The biggest charge
that I found out was first when I when I
first learned that the glothon was actually not getting absorbed
inside your body, A said, why not? Right? So, I'm
(06:44):
not sure if everybody knows what liposome technology is. Liposome
technology back twenty five years plus years ago was was
not brand new, but it was new in the vitamin
industry because it was only available in the drug industry.
There were some pharmaceuticals available medication is available at that
point using the liposome technology, but nobody was using that
(07:07):
in the nutritutical world, or maybe they were, but not
not not prevalent. So I sat developing a liposome technol
technology product for glueth ion back this was nineteen ninety nine,
and I quickly found out that it was not working
for all my patients. It worked on some people but
not everybody, and I could figure out why not. Maybe
maybe my liposomes were not good enough. Maybe my technology
(07:30):
was not was not good enough, but regardless, it was
not working for me. So that was my first chance.
Well if it doesn't work for me, then what am
I doing? So second thing I did, Like you just insinuated.
When you were to the doctors, they gave you an
IVY push of glue ion. Guess what those ivy gluthon.
(07:51):
We were the largest producer for Internus glowthon in America
back in early two thousands. So we've been making We
sat making the iv for because we thought that hey
by in Jenny City a bloodstream, my job was done
right and so it was not challenging enough. But what
I found out was that it did not work for
(08:12):
more than like half an hour.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I was just going to tell you that was what
I used to challenge the doctor. I'd say, but if
I walk out of your office, you know, thirty minutes later.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I don't know if I said thirty or an hour,
but you know, in other words, a short time later,
I'm going to be it's gone. And so what if
I just done.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I've just paid three hundred dollars or whatever for an
iv with good si on push, but yet I'm not
getting the real benefit, and so you show exactly what
you experienced. That was what was happening, even.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
With the consumer even recognizing.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
That they did it. But thing is they had no
other choice. And the thing is it worked on some
people because what I found out was there was a
researcher in nineteen ninety one and I found out this
later on that when the physicians were injetting gluethion, it
was actually getting in the blood stream but only stayed
(09:06):
in the plasma. None of the cells and the plasma
get filtered by the kidneys every five or fifteen minutes,
and the kidney literally dumped everything in the urine. You
have five or fifteen minutes. But here's the thing, we
did see it work a little bit, and the question
is how and why. And so the researchers what they
(09:29):
found out was like an hour and a half two
hours later they sort of saw a rise of systeine,
one of the amino acids in the blood. So wait,
a second glue tide is made about three amino acids, glysin, glutamine,
and cysteine. What the body did was the tooth this peptide.
(09:49):
If you take a big pet it's called protein. What
does it. You don't abserve protein, what do you You
dig the proteins, you chop it down into amino acids.
The body observes the amino acids and uses amino acids
to produce your own ties of proteins and tissues and
things like that. So that's what happened with the glowath ion.
The body did not observe the cloth on as is.
It took this as a peptide, chop it down, reabsorb
(10:12):
the system, and that was actually getting delivered interest selliarly
to allow your body to make its own gloth ion. Hey,
at the end of the day, what do I care?
As long as it works? Right in my mind, so
what do I care? As long as it works? What if?
What if that your body cannot put them two together,
(10:35):
all these amino acids and it cannot make glue ion?
Well does it exist? We had no idea twenty five
years ago. We did not know that part because gene
testing was not even available at that time. Today, you know,
fifteen years ago, gene testing was like five thousand bucks
for a full genome testing. Today today's like a couple
hundred bucks. I can get. Everybody's test is done and
(10:58):
see if you get body can conjugate and produces a
glow on it. If it does, hey, you can take
the systeam by itself and go knock yourself out and
you'll be okay.
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Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, that brings up a good point.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Can you take like I take NAC and the style
system independently. I mean, just take that to two in
the morning, and I also take a glutamine powder with
I put colostrum glutamine and creating in the morning. I
just put it with some warm water and that's like
(12:16):
a morning drink. So if I'm doing those things, I'm
just saying this because you know, I probably maybe a
little more extreme than most consumers. You know that's because
I when you, when you have a lot of knowledge,
you want to try everything. So is that too much
that then to take your gluterol uh transdermally as well?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Or am I overdoing that?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So he's a thing. I can continue my story first,
and then I can't answer you a question as well.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
One more thing I've agot to tell you before you respond.
And I also take perfect aminos, which Gary Breker.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Turned me onto.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And so if I'm taking the perfect aminos and separately,
I mean for the liver and all the you know,
good stuff for your digestion, and then the creatine for
muscle strains, and then the enderceto system as a precursor
to glue to ion, and then gluteral as a transdermal.
So you know, am I overdoing it? I forgot to
(13:17):
mention the perfect.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
No, that's perfect. Now this is this is a perfect question. Uh.
I'll just sit back and relax and let me take
it from here. I'll be happy to answer all those
things because that's exactly say. My dilemma was do I
take everything something? What what do I miss? Would I take?
Would I don't take? I have access to every pharmaceuticals,
every nutraceuticals in my pharmacy, everything that I took, and
(13:42):
and so I can only tell you what I do
and why I do it, so that what you understand
where I'm coming from. So we'll just so let me
let me go back to the old story again. So
we'll want to make sure that list get the full
story of it. And when the liplo technology do not work,
my obviously do not work. I started working with this
new technology to develop glowth ion to get it into
(14:04):
the interstar levels, and in two thousand and seven we
were able to basically stabilize glowth id A in a
water based system and delivered topically to enter yoursels intrascellularly.
It went too fast that I quickly realized that this
I need to do further studies to see how much
(14:26):
to give you, how often to give you? How long
can I give it to you for? Am I going
to get any results? Am I going to get any outcomes?
Can I give this to anybody? And everybody are there's
some people that can take this product. I had all
these questions. It took me fourteen years more research, and
in twenty twenty one will we release a product and
I can tell you what I found out, because that's
the answer that you're looking for. What I found out
(14:48):
was the very first thing, gloth I was actually getting
absorbed interstellularly without getting broken down, without getting broken down.
That means that we means the body does not retreat
its own gloth ion. That means a body does not
need sustained and glodamine in abundance to make its own
(15:08):
glowthon because guess what, we're already providing them. But at
the same time, in the same time, I'm not going
to give you more than what your body needs anyways.
So if you take a littleit of supplementation, it's not
gonna hurt you, but the benefits are going to be minuscule. Okay,
so it's not gonna hurting you, but the benefits are
(15:29):
not going to be outstanding that like you expecting somebody
who's not taking the global in the first place. What
I like to do is to understand body, how to
figure out what does a body do with the nutrients, right,
like viain C. The body doesn't put it vitamin C,
but body can take the vitamin C and basically used
(15:50):
to recycle its own glowthion reserves, recycle some antioxid results,
and so vitamin C is good for that. But other
than that, it's there's no much use for vitamin C.
Vitamin D Viamin D is not a vitamin. It's it's
a hormone. It's a it's just a hormone, and it
affects so many different cycles in your body that absolutely
is necessary. It's it was a panacea drug back in
(16:12):
two thousand and seven, Like everybody that I tested was
low vitamin D, and so I give everybody vitamin D.
And two thousand and nine and everybody was low on iodine,
and we we give everyoy iodine. And I mean, uh,
there's these are all fads that they came through. But
the vitamin D UH stood time and tested that, Hey,
(16:33):
people are deficient vitamin D. It's a hormone. Uh. And
people do have issues with the hormones because the stress
level is extremely high and stress ruler vitamin D levels
out of your body. And so I don't consider vitamin
D as a vitamin. I consider that as a hormone,
and I treat them as a hormone. And if the
hormones a deficient, then you praise the hormones. Right, So
that's what it is. So you asked me a question
(16:55):
about about amino acids. Yeah, so, uh, you pull every
single day? How much protein do you eat?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know, I try to put I have at every meal,
I have some little you know, some protein. I know
it's so important to and I work out every day
so it's even more important. So yeah, I always put
a portion probably you know, two thirds of my plate
of vegetables or salad, you know, salad or steam vegetables,
(17:24):
and then the other third is protein and maybe throwing
a carb here and there.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Of course the carbs that that'ser as well. So proteins.
You need proteins because what does the protein do. It
supplies you a bunch of amino acids that your body's
going to be able to reabsorb from there and use
that to make its own protein. If you eat a
piece of stek, the state does nugget dis lodging to
your muscles, does it? No? It gets broken down, chopped
(17:53):
up and takes up all the things. So when you
eat proteins, the body has to use energy to unfold
the protein, chop it off of amino acids, observe the
amino acids, and remake those proteins again for you right endogenously,
which is inside your cells. It try to makes it again.
(18:15):
For example, muscle fiber. Uh, you need six thousand, one
hundred amino acids, different amnia acids coming together to make
one muscle fiber, right, so that there's only three amino acids.
Only three right, muscle is six thousand and so, yes,
you do need the proteins. You don't need the proteins
and aminiass every single day. What if your binder doesn't
(18:37):
have to eat proteins, but you get all the amino
acids you need to as a building block, so he
so there's no energy wasted in chopping the proteins down
to observe the amino acids. You give the miniss straight
up to your body and there gets there, there gets
the body UH gets the amino acids it needs and
(18:59):
make on peptides. So that's why the perfect aminos or
the mino acids essential aminia acids are very critical. I
take it myself in this in this water bottle, and
guess what, I have ten grams of perfect aminos in there. Good,
So I take it every single day. Might as well.
I'm vegetarian. I don't need meat, there's no need for
(19:20):
it for me. I need lot. I see a lot
of athletes, they are completely vegan, vegetarians, but they're still
of the muscles. Turns, I've I have NFL athletes. They're
vegan NFL, right, these are these are the These are
the well built machines that the player on on on
Sunday night, every every Sunday night and entertain us every
(19:40):
single weekend. But these guys are vegan. They're taking the
menia acids because you still need the aminos to literally
build your muscles.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So there's the glue to thione. Excuse me for interrupting,
but there's the glue to thion.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Then synergistic with regardless of whether it's a an omnivore
or a vegan.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Exactly that that is gluten is a completely different set
because the the amino, the essential amino acid. That eight
of them or nine of them, guess what glue ion,
which is couples of sixteen glycine glutamine are not part
of the eight essentials.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Okay, so the branch aminos do not include the three
peptide aminos that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Are in.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
There. Yeah, they are not the most essential ones. And
so having a glue, having a having amino acid blends.
It's a perfect compation that both of us synergistically and
enhances your your your growth potentials, your longevity potentials, your
asia's potentials that you're looking for. Absolutely, and so in
(20:49):
my thing, I don't take any vitamins. I take glow
iona ama acids. Wow, take vitamins. I take magnesiums sorry, magnesium.
I don't take d's or c's or e's or none
of those things whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right, you get it all from your your good diet
or my diet.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, And that's the way I look at it. And
I have so much energy. I'm full of life. I
have no pain, I can move my body, I can
do all the things that I want to do. I
don't have to worry about things.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Wow, that's really amazing, because you know, our world is
now so conditioned because of all the toxicity to believe
that we have to supplement with you know, things like coke,
tan or ubiquinol for example, or what's the other one
I was just reading about. Well, magnesium, of course, most
(21:45):
like most people are deficient, but you do take magnesium.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That is what I think magnesium because I use magnim
for different reasons. Maybe some conduct electricity in your whole body.
So all of us, I find, where's every single thing
that that that generates electricity? Uh, it needs magnesium to
conduce electricity. We are supposed to ground a body in
(22:12):
earth every day and just charge all the excess of electricity.
I never I would shoes every single day. I'm never
in the soil. I have artificial turf in my house.
You know, it's like, come on, I can never put
my foot out, insane or ever.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, but we both live in California, so you can
hop over to the beach at some point.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Well, the thing is, yeah, I'm always working, I'm always
doing things. I'm always in the lab, and so it's
it's really hard for me to ground myself down. And
as much as I do, as well as I want to,
I don't have the time or the energy to do
that part. So that becomes very challenging for me at
this point. So magnesia.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And you're always at conferences too. So you travel, you're
in airplanes, that's that's going to be a huge toxic
load on your body. And so how do you deal
with that with the just take.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Extra glu to thion?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yes, yeah, so for when I travel. So that there
are two types of stressors. One is the metabodic stresses,
which is what people think that when you have finances issues,
or traffic issues, or heat and cold and uh depressions,
all those all the stressors are basically your endogen stressors.
(23:29):
The second stress are called oxidative stress. Oxid stress is
big basically because you're breathing oxygen from the from the environment.
There's a chemical reaction happening inside your body, and the
byproducts of all these things is oxygen species that your
body neutralizes them on a daily basis. But as you
start aging, the ability to neutralize all these free radicals
(23:51):
reduces as you age, and when when your body is
ability to reduce oxygen stress and how much oxy stress
you have, there's a gap. This gap is what we
call oxycter stress and takes about ten twenty thirty years
before it develops into some diseases and so and so
there are two nuts of stressors. So I'm worried about
(24:12):
the oxyar stress. And when I travel, my death stress
of that part is very very high because I fly
in this aluminum shoot every time and there's no protections
for my body cosmic rays and things like that. I
try not to drink anything besides water. I try not
to eat anything besides fruits and vegetables. I'm very very
(24:33):
picky even that it confence is what I'm going to eat.
When I'm not going to eat, I don't even get
an uber to go out and throw to the grocery
store and pick up some fruits and vegetables for myself.
And we're put in a hotel room. So I do
those kinds of things just so that I don't get
too far off my balance. And even with that, I
(24:54):
still triple my dose of glowth iron when I'm traveling,
Triple the triple.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay, So normally you would do four sprays on your
arm or your abdomen.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Is that the two places that well.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Those are the two places we have done human trials
with and we have seen the same exact results. Based
on those results, you can apply any part of your body.
Not an issue. I just put on my arms in belly.
Is this easier for me? I use four sprays twice
a day on a regular basis, but when I'm traveling,
I needed to use twelve twice a day because that's
(25:29):
what that's what helps me personally to talk with ox stress.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And so do you do the whole twelve at one time?
Twelve sprays in the morning and twelve sprays at night. Well,
everybody that's listening, this is really important because we are,
you know, heavily traveled society and we're you know, constantly
on airplanes, are in places where there's less oxygen.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
As you said, ros.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Right, that's it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, So okay, so then what did Let's step back
for a moment and let's go into what is glue
to thion in terms of you mentioned earlier that it
is a peptide consisting of the three aminos, but take
us a little deeper into what what else it is
(26:17):
and what are its benefits once it's in the body.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Absolutely so so far, what we have found out is
in one hundred and forty years that we have known
glue I on, we're never the product that actually absorbed
into the body. So based on that, there's some limitations
on how much research has been done as of right now,
even though there are thousands and thousands of publications in
the medical literature. If you just put it pretty a
fair search in glowth on the podget like serty two
(26:43):
thousand articles published in all kinds of magazines and everywhere else.
But the thing is what we do not know is
all the things it does for us. So what we
have as of right now, I can only tell you
what we do know as of today. So the two
things that we do know is it's a master antioxidant.
And what does it matter? Because you are exposing yourself,
(27:06):
your body to oxiden stress every single day. If you
wake up you have oxyd stress. Well sorry, let me
let me let me let me take it for what's
that backwards? What you wake up, what you have is
oxidation box of stress. Yet when you oxidation, if it's
not neutralized, becomes oxidened stress. It's the simple example is
(27:28):
like let's see a bunch of nails. The nails are
nice and steel color, but if it gets if he
gets left outside for a for a while, it gets rusted. Right.
The rusting is oxid stress, right, But the nail is
exposed to oxiden every single day, right, and if it's
in use, then it doesn't get rusted. But if it
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since that idly, eventually the whole thing get rusted and
once again rusted, then you cannot bring it back. And
so our body is not nails, but our body is
exposed to samer oxidation. And the body has a capacity
to regenerate rejuvenate. Okay, so the body can actually if
it's even if it's rusted, if you can remove the
(28:10):
rust out somehow, the body can rebuild against all the
tissues and organs. Again, right, part of it not everything right,
And so glue thion actually is the number one product
that is that it does to reduce or neutralize all
this oxygen species in such a body. So there's three
ways you can do that. Part one is you can
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take outside products like vitamin C, vitamin E, co Q,
ten PICQQ, there's so many different products out there that
claim is antioxiden. You can take all those products and
use that to reduce oxide stressed down. That's one thing
I call it bucket number one, the bucket number two.
A body produces enzymes, the three xi the body produces,
(28:53):
which one of them is cattalase.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Second one is superoxided dispotase or it is called SOD
for short. Second, the third one is glithion peroxidase or
GPX for short. These three enzymes also helps the body
neutralize those free radicals. That's bucket number two and the
bucket number three is only one product, which is gluthion.
(29:19):
Let me tell you something that is secret out there.
If you combine bucket number two and one, which is
all the enzymes and all the outside products, glothide is
more powerful than all of those combined. That's why why
glut is so important of our life. And it's like
(29:40):
if you don't brush for two days, I'll be okay.
But if you don't use glutide for two days, trust me,
your body is getting toxic and the body is getting rusted.
The body is experiencing changes, and some of those changes,
if it doesn't get corrected in due time, can lead
to diseases. The diseases there's it's like point or no return, right.
(30:04):
You cannot top off your foot and expect to go,
oh my my body will rego newfoot again. It does
not do that.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
So we're talking about mitochondrial bioregenesis.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
This is basically the key to all health is in ourselves.
So you can take you know, lots of different supplements,
but they never get to the mitochondria.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
They never get to the cells.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
That's like, why don't you just throw away your money?
Right because exactly, and so go ahead for me.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
So the golode that that was one. That was the
one aspect of antioxidant, which myself is very profound. That's
what I call the mother of all antioxidants is bio.
But then researchers decades ago found out there's a second function.
But it does it is in conjugation pathways. What why
is that important? Because your liver processes all the chemicals
(30:59):
that you expose or a daily basis just for you example,
when you wake up this morning and by the time
you left your house, I'm not sure if you left
your house yet or not, but if you left your
house in the morning, within the first couple of hours,
your body was exposed to at least seventy different chemicals
the other day throughout the day. If this is a
(31:20):
this is a forum for a healthy human being. Okay,
you try to avoid all exposures. Even then you're exposed
to at least seven chemicals right as soon as you
wake up in the first couple of hours throughout the day,
if you continue that, you're exposed to almost one fifty
to two hundred different chemicals throughout the day that your
liver has to process it. Now, the way the liver
(31:42):
processes all this chemicals is that it needs something to
bind to something, so you can just you can peet
up the conjugation pathways needs to be activated or needs
molecules to help that. Guess what glothod is the number
one conjugator that helps paople to basically help the liver
(32:06):
detoxify all this chemicals metabolis out of your system. So
you're basically the body from insight is altimpletely key.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Again, So that's that's important because I was going to
ask you how the microbiome, which of course you know
the hottest topic today and in functional medicine is peptides
and microbiome. Those are the two that you keep hearing
at at every conference that you go to and all
the different products that are being presented there and so forth.
(32:32):
So and there is the creb cycle, right, yes, So
tell us how this all this conjugation process works where
it would improve your microbiome.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So that you have better digestion and that because that
seems to be the key.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
To serotonin production where ninety percent of serotonin is in
your gut. But if your gut is broken, you're you're
going to have issue is with your moods of course,
and then the gut brain access. So explain to us
where where does good thim fit into this whole puzzle
with respect to microbione health.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
So you have more bugs in your body than human cells, yes,
if you're thinking that you are who you are based
on your cells in your body, No, you got more
bugs in your body than anything else.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And that's a pretty bold statement because we have thirty
seven trillion cells in our.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Body, right, and we got more than that that many
bugsies in our body, right.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Bugs there are thirty seven trillion. That's pretty daunting, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
It is? And so the thing is we we need
to appreciate and respect that it's as much as their
body as it is is, but as is our body, right,
and so we got to live this in symbiosis or
living together. The bugs does not have a system to
(33:57):
neutralize those toxins and chemicals and some of these chemicals
or pesticides are actually killing those bugs. And so having
glothine is getting rid of all this toxic chemicals outside
your body is actually helping your gut getting stronger and better. Right,
(34:17):
And so I'm again, I do like probidies. I don't
take providies myself personally, but I do like probiotics. Probibes
is something that is is. Yeah, you put them inside,
Like if you want to plant a tree, do you
put seeds every single day? Or do you put one
seed and then you fertilizer and nourish it and do
(34:38):
whatever it takes. The seed gets in your plant and right,
and so the bugs when you take a probiotic, it's
the same thing. If the environment inside your body is
conducive for the bugs to grow and flourish, that's what
I need to work on. So my job is to
(34:59):
get a all the toxic chemicals because that's what's killing
the bugs. Once I get rid of it, make sure
eat a lot of soluble insoluble fibers. And that's why
I'm mostly vegetarian. But when I do that part, that's
the food for the bugs. And when the bugs gets
those food, they're happy. They're happy we can all live
together inside inside of this human body, and then we
(35:20):
can all flourish together. Right, And so that's the way
I looked at it. Things. But again, don't get me wrong,
there's a place, time and place for probiotics because we
take so much an advice in the world today that
most people are so depleted. Oh my goodness, that that
you're planting one or two seeds is not going to
(35:42):
do it for you. So some people want to take
it for a couple of weeks, a couple of months,
a couple of years. Sometimes it takes it. It takes
a long time process to basically re operate all those
bugs inside your body.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And then digestive vents out too, because you need the
help when you eat your meals and basically for absorption,
because if you have all these bugs and you have
a sick micro like leaky gutter, you know, a sick microbion,
your body is not able to absorb the limited nutrition
(36:16):
that we're getting from our food these days, because it's
certainly different than what our grandparents got.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
From their food before the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
So so well, when you make your product, nian what
what what else goes into it?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Besides, I mean, how do you manufacture? What? What? What
is the process?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Absolutely? So we basically we have we have brought the
manufacturing process in house completely in California. Uh. This was
the hardest thing to do for us because the tatori
was so new that nobody knew how to make it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And so either we tease somebody how to make it
or be the manufacturing facility inside inside owned buildings. That's
what we did. Besides the gluton, what we have inside
is a scrobic acid uh, which is the purest form
of famin see Uh. The polysec right sugar molecules that
we used to basically stabilize the glathion uh, twist the
(37:10):
glue that molecule to make the prodical size smaller, get
into the cells and basically quote those code those glue
molecules with sugar so the body can absorb it. All
those things is basically all that's that's all it's inside
this product. It's the technology on how the whole thing
comes together is what we have created. That's what we
have patented so far so far.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
And is this did you just have to go through
f t A approval or what? What what's your process
with the regulatory body.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Reary for the regutary compliance. What we what we are
doing is we have staying within a lane as to
we have we have. We're making this as a topical product. Uh.
And we're not making any claims as to what it
does for you other than the fact that we are
giving the body the GLOATID that your body needs.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
That's that's the way you have to play the game,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Unfortunately, But which is okay, Which is fine as long
as I mean, FDS has has a rule, uh. And
they have a place in the society because their job
is to make sure that no harmful chemicals gets inside
inside the drug supply chain. And and and I completely
respect that. Other thing that I want to make sure
(38:20):
is that I want to use the purest form of ingredients.
Everything is that we use inside a product have a
grass status by FTA, grass means generally regarded as safe
and the grasses are only given to chemicals when you
ingest orally. Since this is topical, the same status doesn't
apply to us. Doesn't apply to us, and so that's
(38:43):
why we cannot cleanly this is an absolutely completely safe product.
We cannot say that part, or I think we can
say that, Hey, this is glothione. If your body needs clothie,
you will know it. You will know it. You don't
have to you don't take my word for it. You
will know it right away. You asked me a question earlier,
what does it do for you?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah? I was just going to go back to that,
thank you, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
What did it do for you?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
But thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Ox Stress is something there's no signs of symptoms of
oxen stress unless it's been gone for ten, fifteen, twenty,
sometimes thirty years.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
If twenty five years goes by and then he says,
oh my god, this thing is linked to oxtter stress.
The treatment was when twenty five years ago, not today, right,
And so the thing is what I can't what I
want to go back today is talked about, is what
is oxter stress linked to? What diseases, what conditions, what
symptoms and so and so forth. And we don't have
(39:37):
too many answers for that part yet. But if you
just put in your search engine leading causes of death
in the world op. Ten, not in the United States,
not civilized country, for everybody Top ten leading cause of death,
one of them is accidents let's take it out of
(39:57):
the picture, because that's something that we can have no
con roll over it. Every single thing besides accidents has
linked to oxidative stress. Talking about cancers, automaten conditions, heart disease,
metal body it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I went on chat GBT and just wrote in glue
the thione and that's exactly what they say that it's
it's omnipresent oxidative stress. And it's even more so in
our industrialized world today. So would it be safe to
say that everybody needs glueo thione externally because at least.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
If they're over, if they're over thirty years old?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yes and no? Right, So does every need glutine? Yes
to survive? Can you boys of glutide? Yes they can? Right.
So the question then, because that who needs it? Why
didn't they need it? And what age do I really
have to supplement myself? And that's that took me a
long time to figure that portion out. So you feel
otherwise healthy, don't consume any alcohol. By the way, alcohol,
(41:04):
one drink of alcohol can depret your golod hand levels
in your body to zero for the next three to
four hours. Yeah, OK, so alcohol is not a good
thing at all. It doesn't support any any body functions
and needs. So if you can avoid that, it would
be fantastic. But anyways, so if you don't drink alcohol,
(41:25):
if you don't smoke cigarettes, or if you're not exposed
to a lot of products of combustions, either a fireplace
inside your house, gas doves inside your house, burning candles
which is petrillum candles inside your house. All those things
they can affect your your toxic loading inside your body.
(41:46):
If you can avoid all those things, your body can
have enough glue thigh and production for until you're thirty
thirty five or maybe up to forty sometimes in ladies
maybe not especially because if you get pregnant and if
you have babies, uh, you depet the glue thaten levels
really really fast. In fact, I mean most people when
they first get pregnaned, they have the morning sickness. Is
(42:08):
why because the body has no glue ion glue Yeah,
go ahead, sorry.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
No, can you go and test your levels of gluteoth ion.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
And you can? You can the testing, Yeah, the testings
are not accurate at all. I have people that have
showed that they have good glue tide levels they're actually low.
And I have people there with low glue tend levels
that are actually normal. And so the testings that are
not very accurate, uh, and you can test them. You
can test the interest levels of glue th I I
(42:41):
do RBC levels. You take the blood, you spin the blood,
take the water out, take the red part of the
blo which is all the blood cells, and use that
to measure glue tid levels. And that needs to be
at least high normal otherwise you know, we don't know
what that looks like. So anyways, give me to pregnancy.
So when I when you can first get pregnant. More
sickness is because the body and low glowth thigh levels,
(43:02):
the body will adjust to it and eventually start putting
more glowth ion. But I guess what if it's just
in the glow that at that time boom, the nausea
womiting goes away, right, I mean it's some simple things, right,
is it for nausea and womitting? No, But what it
does is that you know the glute levels that depend
it from your body and when you need to supplement
that part. But that's an easy part. Other than that,
(43:25):
everybody over the age of forty, everybody has low glowth
iron levels, incuring myself right, and and I known that
for years, and so the way I look at glowth on,
there's three things you can do. One my grandpa always
told me in order for you to be rich, you
don't need more money. You just need to reduce expenses down.
(43:48):
So if you want to be rich with glow ion,
what you gotta do is figure out every single thing
that is depending glow ion in your body. Smoking alcohol, pollution,
concentrations of of of drinking water that is polluted water,
or eating chemical laced foods and vegetables and ultra processed
(44:09):
foods and things like that. All this thing wills out
of your body. If you can reduce that down, there's
a chance you can go for a little bit longer. Okay,
that's the first thing you do. Okay, second thing you
do is you can consume foods that are rich on
those on those three aminio assets, mainly susteine, littleminu and
(44:29):
glicing is is bitterly available in most foods. Cysteine is
a stinky foods is not something that people like to
eat all the time. So what I would suggest is
put in your favorite search engine sustein rich Foods, and
you're gonna get a list of vegans, vegetarians, omnivores, carnivores, pescatarians, whatever,
(44:50):
whatever diet plan you follow, you're gonna get food choices.
You got to make sure those foods are part of
your diet on a daily basis. Now, I avocados, not
alocardos every single day, but avocardas is one of my
favorite food because that hasand assisting in there. Weight proteins
is great. Brazilian nuts is there. So I'm not say
(45:11):
I take some ray proteins. I take avocados, but I
have some of those things that I do on a
regular basis. So making sure that my gluta levels are
up because of this diet in the things, right, that's
the number two things. And then once you're over the
age of forty, well, in most cases now it's about thirty.
But if you're healthy, which very few people are unfortunately,
(45:33):
because we always, oh my god, you look if I
just drink once a week. Now it's not okay if
you drink once a week, right, But anyway, so I
see that most people about the age of thirty, they
need supplementations, and the supplementation choices you have are the
life of some technology that does work a little bit,
and it's assisting that you take that works are fine
(45:53):
as well. Intravenous glow time that works as well. But
if you want to guarantee, if you want to guarantee,
then the body is going to observe the glue thide
and get your results you're looking for. The topical version
that we have created is the only one that we have.
We have never like even when we do the human trials,
we only need thirty patient trials. It's not like like
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out of thirty got the benefit. No, thirty out of
thirty patients saw the increase of the glow tide levels,
and that tells us that everybody got the results. Now,
it's a small trial, so it's not like we have
done a thirty thousand patient trial. It just tells you
that even the small trials you will see at least
one or two outliers. We didn't see zero. We saw zero.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
How do you know.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Let's just say you start your gluterol and you're taking
your eight four in the morning, Forced rays.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
In the morning, force sprace at night.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
How do you know when you're when you're hearing back
from your clients or patients, what are they telling you
that it changes, that they feel the difference, the benefits
of taking.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
It over not over, not over? They stop? What happened?
Speaker 3 (47:06):
It's just all over the place. Like I just got
a call yesterday from a from a from a daughter.
Her mom has multiple sclerosis, and of course there's no
cure for mule scurosis. She was using the glue rule
and she was feeling fantastic. She has more energy, she
felt good, she can do things that around the house.
And then she ran out of the bottle and she
(47:28):
stopped using it for about four months. The daughter called me.
I said, we could not figure out what why is?
Why is my mother declining? We're giving her every single
thing that she was taking the past. Then they found
out the only thing that she stopped was the gluton.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
And so I just got a call yes, said, oh
my god. So and the reason she called me because
she was she herself is a takes the gluethon. So
she gave her a bow to her mom and use
it for two days and all the symptoms that she
had went away, should energy and immediately she felt bad.
I said, oh my god, it's like it's not you know,
(48:09):
people forget the good days and the bad days, right.
But then when you when you see that that I
was feeling good, I stopping the product, and then I
digress back and you say there and you're back to normal.
That's when the people realize that, oh my god, this
is what it does. My body is actually needing this
(48:30):
for the rest of my life. And I didn't even
think about it, right, because we take the things for granted.
Take a twenty year old. Twenty year old has no
problem in the world. They think they're invincible. They think
that nothing's going to ever happen to them, right, They
can do whatever they want to do and they'll be okay,
this is what they tell us all the time. But
the reality is that guess what well you do get down?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
So so the energy one sleep better, sleep with me another.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Well oxo stress is the energy sleep memory functions memory.
A lot of the doctors use it for checking the
metabolic markers. So most of the doctors that uses this
brought for their patients. I'm looking at the cholesterol level,
look at the blood pressure, looking at the diabetes levels,
looking at everything that the oxid stress affects, the metabolic markers.
(49:24):
They're checking all those markers over time, liver function tests
and things like that. So the doctors are using it
for multiple purposes. But the consumers it's hard to tell.
But trust me, if your body is not feeling good,
you can feel a different than thirty days if.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
You have to do this along with other lifestyle changes.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Correct, Like if you had a jump through diet, you
try to take gluterol, It's not It's only going to
be a surface reaction, right, because you still get this
terrible fuel that's coming into your body that is toxic. Right,
So how how how efficacious can glutol be to fight
off bad habits?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
So so, Michelle, the example I can give you is
that you came home with a bag of groceries your door.
You open the door and you take the groceries. Your
hands are fool, so you take the groceries and put
in the kitchen counter. The door is open, the wind
comes over here and basically blows dirts and leaves inside
your house. So what do you do? You take a
brumisart cleaning the thing, But guess what, you can never
(50:27):
clean the house as long as the door is open. Yeah,
so you've got to stop the close the close the door.
You've got to stop the bad behavior. Yeah, you don't
put any more junk inside your inside your body, because
if not, you can clean all day long, but you'll
never be.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Cleaned exactly, so you just said it.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
So you must have a change of behaviors along with
the glutacion in order to get the optimum outcome. But
it's going to do a lot more even if you've
never changed anything. You know, if you're still going to
reduce your oxidative.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Stress right, yes, within the human drout is sure that
also starts to release within four hours, and so repea
application you can suppress of stress down for days, months,
and years, and the benefits will accumuit it over time.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Well, I think the big message here is, like you said,
the reduction or elimination of alcohol, drinking pure water, putting
air purifiers in your home if you can afford that,
or at least, you know, minimizing the toxic load in
your house mold. Mold is a big one as makes
people very you know, oxidatively stressed.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
And then of course the most important is food, your.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Diet So I think if we said said all of that,
if people would agree to make a lifestyle change if
they have bad habits, and then add the glue to
thio along with that lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Change, you're going to get the biggest bang for the buck.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
And I think I saw one of your listen to
one of your podcasts about your dad, and it's a
fascinating story. We don't have the time to go into
it today, but I just that alone, if people are
watching today and have a chance to Google you and.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Listen to some of your podcasts. You've done so many that.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
One about you know how your dad was so transformed
at age eighty nine or eighty whatever. Except Yeah, I
have one more thing though, and before I have to close,
and that is I want to ask about the skincare. Yes, so,
because I mean I have about twenty more things that
I could talk and asked you about, but this is
the skincare I think we have to definitely include in
(52:40):
the podcast. So tell us what is it that it's
in the skincare that's going to transfer be your transformation
for your skin?
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Again, the same thing, right, what is the body needs
the skin? Is the skin is exposed to the enviroment
the most, yeah, the highest one. Else's stress off the
brain is on your skin. Yeah right, and so the
skin is damaged the whole time. The skin with what
we say is the refresher was what what bies from
inside is. So then what I did was, since with
(53:09):
the technology, I was able to deliver gloth ion envitamin C,
I said, what if if I can take all the
other antaxes that we know they're good for us to
trink the size and put into this this small into
into into the couple of products. Because the face is
only like six square inches. Yeah, put ten different creams
on your face. Yes, if I can combine all of
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them at full concentration into this one or two products,
that's what we've done pretty much. So our skincare line
has gloth on, vitamin C, d M A, carnosine, resvertral
cyclostrogenol co Q ten. I mean, everything that I can
think of that I need for my body, I put
into my skin care line. And guess what we create
(53:55):
routine two syrups and two creams morning, two products, eating
two products, and it has transformed so many skins. So
I'm so happy about that one.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah, you know I'm sorry that I didn't.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
I was so focused on the gluterol and I was
at the show in December that I didn't even look
at your skincare. But I think every woman that's listening today,
even men too, I assume you're using your own products
because your skin looks radiant.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah. So you do use it on your you use
it on your body, on your face and your body,
or just your face.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
By facing arms. Yeah, I'm facing arms. And again I'm
a guy, so I don't like the big routines. Yeah.
And so for the first three years I didn't do anything,
and then end of last year is when I started
using the full skincare and literally in tum the whole
skin change. And now I can't go back. I'll use
it every day.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
I need to try.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'm gonna I'm gonna get in touch with you offline
so I get an ordering for the skincare.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
I've got to try it, absolutely, and.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Everybody that's listening, if they want to contact you and
get somebo your products.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
How do they do that?
Speaker 3 (55:03):
So go to my website or wellness dot com au
R wellness dot com. If you have never tried any
glue tine products, or if you take glue tine products,
you've got to give you a thirty day try. I
promise you would not be disappointed. It is not as
easy to take it because this has a little older
to it. It'll stick it to it. But once again,
inside your body, it gets really really fast inside your body.
(55:24):
The results in some case are instantaneous. In some case
it takes about two weeks. And if you don't get
any results in thirty days, patch yourself on the back
because guess what, your AXS stress is low. You're healthy.
You should be appreciative of all the good behaviors you
have done so far, and please continue to have a
good behavior.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
And you know what else I would suggest if you
make a bigger bottle for the gluterol, if that's possible,
because you know the I bought the two little bottles.
I don't know, are you making a larger size now
than the two ones that I got there?
Speaker 1 (55:58):
I think what probably one or two holes? One else?
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yeah, each other? Each one was little lastly about thirty days.
And we want to make sure that people have a
smaller bottle so easily carry most traveling nowadays. So if
we want to make sure there were bottles.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, yeah, but I would buy both because I travel,
so I would have the one for travel and the
one for home, and that way I don't have to
bother you every thirty days, and it's probably economically better
for the consumer too. So just a suggestion that from
someone who's been very loyal to your product since December,
and I tell everybody so that, you know, because I
(56:35):
was using liposomal I. You know, I'm very close with
Quicksilver and Scientific Doctor Crishade and you know I use
a lot of their products.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Yeah, they have.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
They're one of my very close friends, doctor Doctor Shade
and Robert Slovak, both co founders of the company. So
they're both people that I you know, I tried to
support their product, but now.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
I don't use the Lipersomo. I only use yours.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
So well, you also speak for itself. That's what that's
what we're hoping for everybody.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, you should be very proud of yourself because you
worked a long time to get to this point, and
you had some bumps on the road and some you know,
like we.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Said, a little bit of dead end here and there
where you thought it wasn't going to work, and then
you came back to it, like you said in one
of your.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Podcasts that somebody in your office had to burn and
you saw, oh.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
My gosh, we should resurrect this. So everything happens for
a reason, you know, Nyan.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yes it does, and I'm glad you. You know that's
that's like too many stories out told over time to
too many different people.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Well I listened to all.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Of them, so that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
I like to prepare before the the yeah, the podcast,
So I tried it. But I think we had a
great talk today and I really appreciate you taking the time.
I know you have another meeting coming up, so I
want to say goodbye to you and have a beautiful
weekend and thank you again, and I'll get in touch
with you about ordering your book and some more product.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
Thank you so much appreciating
Good morning everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. I have
a wonderful guest today, and I know I say that
every single time, but this is a very special man
that I met at the American Academy of Anti Aging
in Las Vegas last December. And his name is doctor
Nion Patel and doctor Pateell, welcome to Ageless and Timeless.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, thanks for having me to you today. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, I know we did this kind of a last meeting.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You've been on my list for all these months, and
I knew I was talking to your staff and I
knew I was going to come back to you, but
we're booked out for a year in advance, and so
finally I had a little cancelation and I was able
to You were on the first on my list, so
I was able to get you in.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So thank you for being so responsive and being able
to do this today. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, let me just tell everybody a little bit about
you and then I'm going to let you take over.
So doctor Patel is a is a pharmacist. He's You've
been in pharmacy for thirty years? Correct, yes, and he
is what I call the father of glue to thione.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So I know there are others. I get a lot
of emails.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
From people trying to sell glutathione, and it's it's you know,
it's it's known as the master antioxidant. And I can
remember even twenty years ago when I'd go to my
functional medicine doctor and he'd say, Okay, we're going to
give you an iv with and it has to have
blue to thione in it because you cannot absorb bluetoothione
(01:44):
any other way but through an iv So that was
how I always thought, you know that gluetithione.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Was going to be absorbed into the body. Well now
I know differently.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And I'm going to let doctor burtell tell you about
his product called blutol. Well he has two gluterol and
gluterol plus, and he'll tell us the difference.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But uh, these are transdermal and.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So much easier than having to go to get an
ivy and you can do you can do the treatment
write at home and only four sprays a day or
eight sprays a day, four in the morning and four
at night.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So doctor Mittel, this is just so exciting because.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Glutathion is probably one of the most important ingredients we
can put in our bodies, and why don't you tell
us why?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Absolutely? So? Uh, the why came to me a long
time ago because being a pharmacist, we have so much
medications that we work with on a daily basis that
that I thought that we're going to solve the problem
for helping people live a long, healthy life. In reality,
what I've really found out was after graduate from pharmacist school,
(02:56):
that all we were doing was just managing people's problems.
We're not solving any problems. And so it basically came
to me that there there has to be something else
that we are missing, and drugs is not gonna be
the answer for that. And quickly I realized that a
body is our own chemistry. Has everything that we need
(03:18):
is inside a body. We just figure out what that
molecule is that we need to work on or enhance
it or make sure it's available to the body all
the time, and if we can do that part, we
can have a basically a long healthy life. And so
I always look at said, Okay, what is one thing.
(03:38):
If it's just one thing, what is that one thing?
And the only way I can I can talk about
cloathot is because cloth out is the most abundant molecule
prodution human body. Right, the two things that we need
without that we can survive is water and air. Right,
if you cannot breathe, if you start drinking water, there's
(03:59):
a time to be you're going to pass out and
die right anywhere from a few minutes to a few days,
but that's a finale time. Same thing with glthion. Gluten
is the most amputter molecule. Without glurton, there is no
neutralizing of the free radicals, there is no detoxification happening.
It's like basically a whole body from inside all clogged up,
(04:21):
and there's a time limited from where when it starts
cleaning your body up to when you're going to pass
out and die. And so my job was, okay, if
gluton is that molecule, I thought that, hey, we have
known glue out for one hundred and forty plus years,
we should have all the answers by now. And guess
what we had. No answers. No answers. And the reason
(04:44):
is because there's never been a product that it's available
in the marketplace that can enhance those levels on every
human beings on this planet. And so that's why I
started working glut on twenty five plus years ago, just
trying to figure out is there something that I can
do to service humanity and give it, give something or
(05:08):
or brings signs to basically get you glute out inside
your body.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So, actually, what you're saying is that you have a
passion to heal the human condition, and that passion is
what guided you to this path. And there I'm sure
have been some detoys or some side tracking along the way.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I know, vitamin C was always the big you know, secure.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
All everybody said, oh, yeah, if you have a cold,
the only thing you should do is take vitamin C.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
That's going to cure you. Now, of course we know that,
you know, vitamin.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
D three and K two and and other antioxidants and
glutathione are critical for just even the common cold.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So along the way.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
What what challenges did you face to get the point
where you are today?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So my challenges were different. I was I was not
competing with other molecules. I was competing with the delivery
system because I already knew a human body does not
produce vitamin C. So it's it's not something that the
body needs. Yes, we have some issues and we made
need a small amount of vitamin C, but then you
(06:23):
can get from your diet all day long. So it's
not like something that we need abundance off. And so
my challenge was a little bit different. The biggest charge
that I found out was first when I when I
first learned that the glothon was actually not getting absorbed
inside your body, A said, why not? Right? So, I'm
(06:44):
not sure if everybody knows what liposome technology is. Liposome
technology back twenty five years plus years ago was was
not brand new, but it was new in the vitamin
industry because it was only available in the drug industry.
There were some pharmaceuticals available medication is available at that
point using the liposome technology, but nobody was using that
(07:07):
in the nutritutical world, or maybe they were, but not
not not prevalent. So I sat developing a liposome technol
technology product for glueth ion back this was nineteen ninety nine,
and I quickly found out that it was not working
for all my patients. It worked on some people but
not everybody, and I could figure out why not. Maybe
maybe my liposomes were not good enough. Maybe my technology
(07:30):
was not was not good enough, but regardless, it was
not working for me. So that was my first chance.
Well if it doesn't work for me, then what am
I doing? So second thing I did, Like you just insinuated.
When you were to the doctors, they gave you an
IVY push of glue ion. Guess what those ivy gluthon.
(07:51):
We were the largest producer for Internus glowthon in America
back in early two thousands. So we've been making We
sat making the iv for because we thought that hey
by in Jenny City a bloodstream, my job was done
right and so it was not challenging enough. But what
I found out was that it did not work for
(08:12):
more than like half an hour.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I was just going to tell you that was what
I used to challenge the doctor. I'd say, but if
I walk out of your office, you know, thirty minutes later.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I don't know if I said thirty or an hour,
but you know, in other words, a short time later,
I'm going to be it's gone. And so what if
I just done.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I've just paid three hundred dollars or whatever for an
iv with good si on push, but yet I'm not
getting the real benefit, and so you show exactly what
you experienced. That was what was happening, even.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
With the consumer even recognizing.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
That they did it. But thing is they had no
other choice. And the thing is it worked on some
people because what I found out was there was a
researcher in nineteen ninety one and I found out this
later on that when the physicians were injetting gluethion, it
was actually getting in the blood stream but only stayed
(09:06):
in the plasma. None of the cells and the plasma
get filtered by the kidneys every five or fifteen minutes,
and the kidney literally dumped everything in the urine. You
have five or fifteen minutes. But here's the thing, we
did see it work a little bit, and the question
is how and why. And so the researchers what they
(09:29):
found out was like an hour and a half two
hours later they sort of saw a rise of systeine,
one of the amino acids in the blood. So wait,
a second glue tide is made about three amino acids, glysin, glutamine,
and cysteine. What the body did was the tooth this peptide.
(09:49):
If you take a big pet it's called protein. What
does it. You don't abserve protein, what do you You
dig the proteins, you chop it down into amino acids.
The body observes the amino acids and uses amino acids
to produce your own ties of proteins and tissues and
things like that. So that's what happened with the glowath ion.
The body did not observe the cloth on as is.
It took this as a peptide, chop it down, reabsorb
(10:12):
the system, and that was actually getting delivered interest selliarly
to allow your body to make its own gloth ion. Hey,
at the end of the day, what do I care?
As long as it works? Right in my mind, so
what do I care? As long as it works? What if?
What if that your body cannot put them two together,
(10:35):
all these amino acids and it cannot make glue ion?
Well does it exist? We had no idea twenty five
years ago. We did not know that part because gene
testing was not even available at that time. Today, you know,
fifteen years ago, gene testing was like five thousand bucks
for a full genome testing. Today today's like a couple
hundred bucks. I can get. Everybody's test is done and
(10:58):
see if you get body can conjugate and produces a
glow on it. If it does, hey, you can take
the systeam by itself and go knock yourself out and
you'll be okay.
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Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, that brings up a good point.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Can you take like I take NAC and the style
system independently. I mean, just take that to two in
the morning, and I also take a glutamine powder with
I put colostrum glutamine and creating in the morning. I
just put it with some warm water and that's like
(12:16):
a morning drink. So if I'm doing those things, I'm
just saying this because you know, I probably maybe a
little more extreme than most consumers. You know that's because
I when you, when you have a lot of knowledge,
you want to try everything. So is that too much
that then to take your gluterol uh transdermally as well?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Or am I overdoing that?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So he's a thing. I can continue my story first,
and then I can't answer you a question as well.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
One more thing I've agot to tell you before you respond.
And I also take perfect aminos, which Gary Breker.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Turned me onto.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And so if I'm taking the perfect aminos and separately,
I mean for the liver and all the you know,
good stuff for your digestion, and then the creatine for
muscle strains, and then the enderceto system as a precursor
to glue to ion, and then gluteral as a transdermal.
So you know, am I overdoing it? I forgot to
(13:17):
mention the perfect.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
No, that's perfect. Now this is this is a perfect question. Uh.
I'll just sit back and relax and let me take
it from here. I'll be happy to answer all those
things because that's exactly say. My dilemma was do I
take everything something? What what do I miss? Would I take?
Would I don't take? I have access to every pharmaceuticals,
every nutraceuticals in my pharmacy, everything that I took, and
(13:42):
and so I can only tell you what I do
and why I do it, so that what you understand
where I'm coming from. So we'll just so let me
let me go back to the old story again. So
we'll want to make sure that list get the full
story of it. And when the liplo technology do not work,
my obviously do not work. I started working with this
new technology to develop glowth ion to get it into
(14:04):
the interstar levels, and in two thousand and seven we
were able to basically stabilize glowth id A in a
water based system and delivered topically to enter yoursels intrascellularly.
It went too fast that I quickly realized that this
I need to do further studies to see how much
(14:26):
to give you, how often to give you? How long
can I give it to you for? Am I going
to get any results? Am I going to get any outcomes?
Can I give this to anybody? And everybody are there's
some people that can take this product. I had all
these questions. It took me fourteen years more research, and
in twenty twenty one will we release a product and
I can tell you what I found out, because that's
the answer that you're looking for. What I found out
(14:48):
was the very first thing, gloth I was actually getting
absorbed interstellularly without getting broken down, without getting broken down.
That means that we means the body does not retreat
its own gloth ion. That means a body does not
need sustained and glodamine in abundance to make its own
(15:08):
glowthon because guess what, we're already providing them. But at
the same time, in the same time, I'm not going
to give you more than what your body needs anyways.
So if you take a littleit of supplementation, it's not
gonna hurt you, but the benefits are going to be minuscule. Okay,
so it's not gonna hurting you, but the benefits are
(15:29):
not going to be outstanding that like you expecting somebody
who's not taking the global in the first place. What
I like to do is to understand body, how to
figure out what does a body do with the nutrients, right,
like viain C. The body doesn't put it vitamin C,
but body can take the vitamin C and basically used
(15:50):
to recycle its own glowthion reserves, recycle some antioxid results,
and so vitamin C is good for that. But other
than that, it's there's no much use for vitamin C.
Vitamin D Viamin D is not a vitamin. It's it's
a hormone. It's a it's just a hormone, and it
affects so many different cycles in your body that absolutely
is necessary. It's it was a panacea drug back in
(16:12):
two thousand and seven, Like everybody that I tested was
low vitamin D, and so I give everybody vitamin D.
And two thousand and nine and everybody was low on iodine,
and we we give everyoy iodine. And I mean, uh,
there's these are all fads that they came through. But
the vitamin D UH stood time and tested that, Hey,
(16:33):
people are deficient vitamin D. It's a hormone. Uh. And
people do have issues with the hormones because the stress
level is extremely high and stress ruler vitamin D levels
out of your body. And so I don't consider vitamin
D as a vitamin. I consider that as a hormone,
and I treat them as a hormone. And if the
hormones a deficient, then you praise the hormones. Right, So
that's what it is. So you asked me a question
(16:55):
about about amino acids. Yeah, so, uh, you pull every
single day? How much protein do you eat?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know, I try to put I have at every meal,
I have some little you know, some protein. I know
it's so important to and I work out every day
so it's even more important. So yeah, I always put
a portion probably you know, two thirds of my plate
of vegetables or salad, you know, salad or steam vegetables,
(17:24):
and then the other third is protein and maybe throwing
a carb here and there.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Of course the carbs that that'ser as well. So proteins.
You need proteins because what does the protein do. It
supplies you a bunch of amino acids that your body's
going to be able to reabsorb from there and use
that to make its own protein. If you eat a
piece of stek, the state does nugget dis lodging to
your muscles, does it? No? It gets broken down, chopped
(17:53):
up and takes up all the things. So when you
eat proteins, the body has to use energy to unfold
the protein, chop it off of amino acids, observe the
amino acids, and remake those proteins again for you right endogenously,
which is inside your cells. It try to makes it again.
(18:15):
For example, muscle fiber. Uh, you need six thousand, one
hundred amino acids, different amnia acids coming together to make
one muscle fiber, right, so that there's only three amino acids.
Only three right, muscle is six thousand and so, yes,
you do need the proteins. You don't need the proteins
and aminiass every single day. What if your binder doesn't
(18:37):
have to eat proteins, but you get all the amino
acids you need to as a building block, so he
so there's no energy wasted in chopping the proteins down
to observe the amino acids. You give the miniss straight
up to your body and there gets there, there gets
the body UH gets the amino acids it needs and
(18:59):
make on peptides. So that's why the perfect aminos or
the mino acids essential aminia acids are very critical. I
take it myself in this in this water bottle, and
guess what, I have ten grams of perfect aminos in there. Good,
So I take it every single day. Might as well.
I'm vegetarian. I don't need meat, there's no need for
(19:20):
it for me. I need lot. I see a lot
of athletes, they are completely vegan, vegetarians, but they're still
of the muscles. Turns, I've I have NFL athletes. They're
vegan NFL, right, these are these are the These are
the well built machines that the player on on on
Sunday night, every every Sunday night and entertain us every
(19:40):
single weekend. But these guys are vegan. They're taking the
menia acids because you still need the aminos to literally
build your muscles.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So there's the glue to thione. Excuse me for interrupting,
but there's the glue to thion.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Then synergistic with regardless of whether it's a an omnivore
or a vegan.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Exactly that that is gluten is a completely different set
because the the amino, the essential amino acid. That eight
of them or nine of them, guess what glue ion,
which is couples of sixteen glycine glutamine are not part
of the eight essentials.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Okay, so the branch aminos do not include the three
peptide aminos that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Are in.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
There. Yeah, they are not the most essential ones. And
so having a glue, having a having amino acid blends.
It's a perfect compation that both of us synergistically and
enhances your your your growth potentials, your longevity potentials, your
asia's potentials that you're looking for. Absolutely, and so in
(20:49):
my thing, I don't take any vitamins. I take glow
iona ama acids. Wow, take vitamins. I take magnesiums sorry, magnesium.
I don't take d's or c's or e's or none
of those things whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right, you get it all from your your good diet
or my diet.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, And that's the way I look at it. And
I have so much energy. I'm full of life. I
have no pain, I can move my body, I can
do all the things that I want to do. I
don't have to worry about things.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Wow, that's really amazing, because you know, our world is
now so conditioned because of all the toxicity to believe
that we have to supplement with you know, things like coke,
tan or ubiquinol for example, or what's the other one
I was just reading about. Well, magnesium, of course, most
(21:45):
like most people are deficient, but you do take magnesium.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That is what I think magnesium because I use magnim
for different reasons. Maybe some conduct electricity in your whole body.
So all of us, I find, where's every single thing
that that that generates electricity? Uh, it needs magnesium to
conduce electricity. We are supposed to ground a body in
(22:12):
earth every day and just charge all the excess of electricity.
I never I would shoes every single day. I'm never
in the soil. I have artificial turf in my house.
You know, it's like, come on, I can never put
my foot out, insane or ever.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, but we both live in California, so you can
hop over to the beach at some point.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Well, the thing is, yeah, I'm always working, I'm always
doing things. I'm always in the lab, and so it's
it's really hard for me to ground myself down. And
as much as I do, as well as I want to,
I don't have the time or the energy to do
that part. So that becomes very challenging for me at
this point. So magnesia.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And you're always at conferences too. So you travel, you're
in airplanes, that's that's going to be a huge toxic
load on your body. And so how do you deal
with that with the just take.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Extra glu to thion?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yes, yeah, so for when I travel. So that there
are two types of stressors. One is the metabodic stresses,
which is what people think that when you have finances issues,
or traffic issues, or heat and cold and uh depressions,
all those all the stressors are basically your endogen stressors.
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The second stress are called oxidative stress. Oxid stress is
big basically because you're breathing oxygen from the from the environment.
There's a chemical reaction happening inside your body, and the
byproducts of all these things is oxygen species that your
body neutralizes them on a daily basis. But as you
start aging, the ability to neutralize all these free radicals
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reduces as you age, and when when your body is
ability to reduce oxygen stress and how much oxy stress
you have, there's a gap. This gap is what we
call oxycter stress and takes about ten twenty thirty years
before it develops into some diseases and so and so
there are two nuts of stressors. So I'm worried about
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the oxyar stress. And when I travel, my death stress
of that part is very very high because I fly
in this aluminum shoot every time and there's no protections
for my body cosmic rays and things like that. I
try not to drink anything besides water. I try not
to eat anything besides fruits and vegetables. I'm very very
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picky even that it confence is what I'm going to eat.
When I'm not going to eat, I don't even get
an uber to go out and throw to the grocery
store and pick up some fruits and vegetables for myself.
And we're put in a hotel room. So I do
those kinds of things just so that I don't get
too far off my balance. And even with that, I
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still triple my dose of glowth iron when I'm traveling,
Triple the triple.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay, So normally you would do four sprays on your
arm or your abdomen.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Is that the two places that well.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Those are the two places we have done human trials
with and we have seen the same exact results. Based
on those results, you can apply any part of your body.
Not an issue. I just put on my arms in belly.
Is this easier for me? I use four sprays twice
a day on a regular basis, but when I'm traveling,
I needed to use twelve twice a day because that's
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what that's what helps me personally to talk with ox stress.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And so do you do the whole twelve at one time?
Twelve sprays in the morning and twelve sprays at night. Well,
everybody that's listening, this is really important because we are,
you know, heavily traveled society and we're you know, constantly
on airplanes, are in places where there's less oxygen.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
As you said, ros.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Right, that's it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, So okay, so then what did Let's step back
for a moment and let's go into what is glue
to thion in terms of you mentioned earlier that it
is a peptide consisting of the three aminos, but take
us a little deeper into what what else it is
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and what are its benefits once it's in the body.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Absolutely so so far, what we have found out is
in one hundred and forty years that we have known
glue I on, we're never the product that actually absorbed
into the body. So based on that, there's some limitations
on how much research has been done as of right now,
even though there are thousands and thousands of publications in
the medical literature. If you just put it pretty a
fair search in glowth on the podget like serty two
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thousand articles published in all kinds of magazines and everywhere else.
But the thing is what we do not know is
all the things it does for us. So what we
have as of right now, I can only tell you
what we do know as of today. So the two
things that we do know is it's a master antioxidant.
And what does it matter? Because you are exposing yourself,
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your body to oxiden stress every single day. If you
wake up you have oxyd stress. Well sorry, let me
let me let me let me take it for what's
that backwards? What you wake up, what you have is
oxidation box of stress. Yet when you oxidation, if it's
not neutralized, becomes oxidened stress. It's the simple example is
(27:28):
like let's see a bunch of nails. The nails are
nice and steel color, but if it gets if he
gets left outside for a for a while, it gets rusted. Right.
The rusting is oxid stress, right, But the nail is
exposed to oxiden every single day, right, and if it's
in use, then it doesn't get rusted. But if it
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since that idly, eventually the whole thing get rusted and
once again rusted, then you cannot bring it back. And
so our body is not nails, but our body is
exposed to samer oxidation. And the body has a capacity
to regenerate rejuvenate. Okay, so the body can actually if
it's even if it's rusted, if you can remove the
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rust out somehow, the body can rebuild against all the
tissues and organs. Again, right, part of it not everything right,
And so glue thion actually is the number one product
that is that it does to reduce or neutralize all
this oxygen species in such a body. So there's three
ways you can do that. Part one is you can
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take outside products like vitamin C, vitamin E, co Q,
ten PICQQ, there's so many different products out there that
claim is antioxiden. You can take all those products and
use that to reduce oxide stressed down. That's one thing
I call it bucket number one, the bucket number two.
A body produces enzymes, the three xi the body produces,
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which one of them is cattalase.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Second one is superoxided dispotase or it is called SOD
for short. Second, the third one is glithion peroxidase or
GPX for short. These three enzymes also helps the body
neutralize those free radicals. That's bucket number two and the
bucket number three is only one product, which is gluthion.
(29:19):
Let me tell you something that is secret out there.
If you combine bucket number two and one, which is
all the enzymes and all the outside products, glothide is
more powerful than all of those combined. That's why why
glut is so important of our life. And it's like
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if you don't brush for two days, I'll be okay.
But if you don't use glutide for two days, trust me,
your body is getting toxic and the body is getting rusted.
The body is experiencing changes, and some of those changes,
if it doesn't get corrected in due time, can lead
to diseases. The diseases there's it's like point or no return, right.
(30:04):
You cannot top off your foot and expect to go,
oh my my body will rego newfoot again. It does
not do that.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
So we're talking about mitochondrial bioregenesis.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
This is basically the key to all health is in ourselves.
So you can take you know, lots of different supplements,
but they never get to the mitochondria.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
They never get to the cells.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
That's like, why don't you just throw away your money?
Right because exactly, and so go ahead for me.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
So the golode that that was one. That was the
one aspect of antioxidant, which myself is very profound. That's
what I call the mother of all antioxidants is bio.
But then researchers decades ago found out there's a second function.
But it does it is in conjugation pathways. What why
is that important? Because your liver processes all the chemicals
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that you expose or a daily basis just for you example,
when you wake up this morning and by the time
you left your house, I'm not sure if you left
your house yet or not, but if you left your
house in the morning, within the first couple of hours,
your body was exposed to at least seventy different chemicals
the other day throughout the day. If this is a
(31:20):
this is a forum for a healthy human being. Okay,
you try to avoid all exposures. Even then you're exposed
to at least seven chemicals right as soon as you
wake up in the first couple of hours throughout the day,
if you continue that, you're exposed to almost one fifty
to two hundred different chemicals throughout the day that your
liver has to process it. Now, the way the liver
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processes all this chemicals is that it needs something to
bind to something, so you can just you can peet
up the conjugation pathways needs to be activated or needs
molecules to help that. Guess what glothod is the number
one conjugator that helps paople to basically help the liver
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detoxify all this chemicals metabolis out of your system. So
you're basically the body from insight is altimpletely key.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Again, So that's that's important because I was going to
ask you how the microbiome, which of course you know
the hottest topic today and in functional medicine is peptides
and microbiome. Those are the two that you keep hearing
at at every conference that you go to and all
the different products that are being presented there and so forth.
(32:32):
So and there is the creb cycle, right, yes, So
tell us how this all this conjugation process works where
it would improve your microbiome.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So that you have better digestion and that because that
seems to be the key.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
To serotonin production where ninety percent of serotonin is in
your gut. But if your gut is broken, you're you're
going to have issue is with your moods of course,
and then the gut brain access. So explain to us
where where does good thim fit into this whole puzzle
with respect to microbione health.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
So you have more bugs in your body than human cells, yes,
if you're thinking that you are who you are based
on your cells in your body, No, you got more
bugs in your body than anything else.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And that's a pretty bold statement because we have thirty
seven trillion cells in our.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Body, right, and we got more than that that many
bugsies in our body, right.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Bugs there are thirty seven trillion. That's pretty daunting, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
It is? And so the thing is we we need
to appreciate and respect that it's as much as their
body as it is is, but as is our body, right,
and so we got to live this in symbiosis or
living together. The bugs does not have a system to
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neutralize those toxins and chemicals and some of these chemicals
or pesticides are actually killing those bugs. And so having
glothine is getting rid of all this toxic chemicals outside
your body is actually helping your gut getting stronger and better. Right,
(34:17):
And so I'm again, I do like probidies. I don't
take providies myself personally, but I do like probiotics. Probibes
is something that is is. Yeah, you put them inside,
Like if you want to plant a tree, do you
put seeds every single day? Or do you put one
seed and then you fertilizer and nourish it and do
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whatever it takes. The seed gets in your plant and right,
and so the bugs when you take a probiotic, it's
the same thing. If the environment inside your body is
conducive for the bugs to grow and flourish, that's what
I need to work on. So my job is to
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get a all the toxic chemicals because that's what's killing
the bugs. Once I get rid of it, make sure
eat a lot of soluble insoluble fibers. And that's why
I'm mostly vegetarian. But when I do that part, that's
the food for the bugs. And when the bugs gets
those food, they're happy. They're happy we can all live
together inside inside of this human body, and then we
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can all flourish together. Right, And so that's the way
I looked at it. Things. But again, don't get me wrong,
there's a place, time and place for probiotics because we
take so much an advice in the world today that
most people are so depleted. Oh my goodness, that that
you're planting one or two seeds is not going to
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do it for you. So some people want to take
it for a couple of weeks, a couple of months,
a couple of years. Sometimes it takes it. It takes
a long time process to basically re operate all those
bugs inside your body.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And then digestive vents out too, because you need the
help when you eat your meals and basically for absorption,
because if you have all these bugs and you have
a sick micro like leaky gutter, you know, a sick microbion,
your body is not able to absorb the limited nutrition
(36:16):
that we're getting from our food these days, because it's
certainly different than what our grandparents got.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
From their food before the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
So so well, when you make your product, nian what
what what else goes into it?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Besides, I mean, how do you manufacture? What? What? What
is the process?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Absolutely? So we basically we have we have brought the
manufacturing process in house completely in California. Uh. This was
the hardest thing to do for us because the tatori
was so new that nobody knew how to make it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And so either we tease somebody how to make it
or be the manufacturing facility inside inside owned buildings. That's
what we did. Besides the gluton, what we have inside
is a scrobic acid uh, which is the purest form
of famin see Uh. The polysec right sugar molecules that
we used to basically stabilize the glathion uh, twist the
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glue that molecule to make the prodical size smaller, get
into the cells and basically quote those code those glue
molecules with sugar so the body can absorb it. All
those things is basically all that's that's all it's inside
this product. It's the technology on how the whole thing
comes together is what we have created. That's what we
have patented so far so far.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
And is this did you just have to go through
f t A approval or what? What what's your process
with the regulatory body.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Reary for the regutary compliance. What we what we are
doing is we have staying within a lane as to
we have we have. We're making this as a topical product. Uh.
And we're not making any claims as to what it
does for you other than the fact that we are
giving the body the GLOATID that your body needs.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
That's that's the way you have to play the game,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Unfortunately, But which is okay, Which is fine as long
as I mean, FDS has has a rule, uh. And
they have a place in the society because their job
is to make sure that no harmful chemicals gets inside
inside the drug supply chain. And and and I completely
respect that. Other thing that I want to make sure
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is that I want to use the purest form of ingredients.
Everything is that we use inside a product have a
grass status by FTA, grass means generally regarded as safe
and the grasses are only given to chemicals when you
ingest orally. Since this is topical, the same status doesn't
apply to us. Doesn't apply to us, and so that's
(38:43):
why we cannot cleanly this is an absolutely completely safe product.
We cannot say that part, or I think we can
say that, Hey, this is glothione. If your body needs clothie,
you will know it. You will know it. You don't
have to you don't take my word for it. You
will know it right away. You asked me a question earlier,
what does it do for you?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah? I was just going to go back to that,
thank you, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
What did it do for you?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
But thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Ox Stress is something there's no signs of symptoms of
oxen stress unless it's been gone for ten, fifteen, twenty,
sometimes thirty years.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
If twenty five years goes by and then he says,
oh my god, this thing is linked to oxtter stress.
The treatment was when twenty five years ago, not today, right,
And so the thing is what I can't what I
want to go back today is talked about, is what
is oxter stress linked to? What diseases, what conditions, what
symptoms and so and so forth. And we don't have
(39:37):
too many answers for that part yet. But if you
just put in your search engine leading causes of death
in the world op. Ten, not in the United States,
not civilized country, for everybody Top ten leading cause of death,
one of them is accidents let's take it out of
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the picture, because that's something that we can have no
con roll over it. Every single thing besides accidents has
linked to oxidative stress. Talking about cancers, automaten conditions, heart disease,
metal body it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I went on chat GBT and just wrote in glue
the thione and that's exactly what they say that it's
it's omnipresent oxidative stress. And it's even more so in
our industrialized world today. So would it be safe to
say that everybody needs glueo thione externally because at least.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
If they're over, if they're over thirty years old?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yes and no? Right, So does every need glutine? Yes
to survive? Can you boys of glutide? Yes they can? Right.
So the question then, because that who needs it? Why
didn't they need it? And what age do I really
have to supplement myself? And that's that took me a
long time to figure that portion out. So you feel
otherwise healthy, don't consume any alcohol. By the way, alcohol,
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one drink of alcohol can depret your golod hand levels
in your body to zero for the next three to
four hours. Yeah, OK, so alcohol is not a good
thing at all. It doesn't support any any body functions
and needs. So if you can avoid that, it would
be fantastic. But anyways, so if you don't drink alcohol,
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if you don't smoke cigarettes, or if you're not exposed
to a lot of products of combustions, either a fireplace
inside your house, gas doves inside your house, burning candles
which is petrillum candles inside your house. All those things
they can affect your your toxic loading inside your body.
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If you can avoid all those things, your body can
have enough glue thigh and production for until you're thirty
thirty five or maybe up to forty sometimes in ladies
maybe not especially because if you get pregnant and if
you have babies, uh, you depet the glue thaten levels
really really fast. In fact, I mean most people when
they first get pregnaned, they have the morning sickness. Is
(42:08):
why because the body has no glue ion glue Yeah,
go ahead, sorry.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
No, can you go and test your levels of gluteoth ion.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
And you can? You can the testing, Yeah, the testings
are not accurate at all. I have people that have
showed that they have good glue tide levels they're actually low.
And I have people there with low glue tend levels
that are actually normal. And so the testings that are
not very accurate, uh, and you can test them. You
can test the interest levels of glue th I I
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do RBC levels. You take the blood, you spin the blood,
take the water out, take the red part of the
blo which is all the blood cells, and use that
to measure glue tid levels. And that needs to be
at least high normal otherwise you know, we don't know
what that looks like. So anyways, give me to pregnancy.
So when I when you can first get pregnant. More
sickness is because the body and low glowth thigh levels,
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the body will adjust to it and eventually start putting
more glowth ion. But I guess what if it's just
in the glow that at that time boom, the nausea
womiting goes away, right, I mean it's some simple things, right,
is it for nausea and womitting? No, But what it
does is that you know the glute levels that depend
it from your body and when you need to supplement
that part. But that's an easy part. Other than that,
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everybody over the age of forty, everybody has low glowth
iron levels, incuring myself right, and and I known that
for years, and so the way I look at glowth on,
there's three things you can do. One my grandpa always
told me in order for you to be rich, you
don't need more money. You just need to reduce expenses down.
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So if you want to be rich with glow ion,
what you gotta do is figure out every single thing
that is depending glow ion in your body. Smoking alcohol, pollution,
concentrations of of of drinking water that is polluted water,
or eating chemical laced foods and vegetables and ultra processed
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foods and things like that. All this thing wills out
of your body. If you can reduce that down, there's
a chance you can go for a little bit longer. Okay,
that's the first thing you do. Okay, second thing you
do is you can consume foods that are rich on
those on those three aminio assets, mainly susteine, littleminu and
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glicing is is bitterly available in most foods. Cysteine is
a stinky foods is not something that people like to
eat all the time. So what I would suggest is
put in your favorite search engine sustein rich Foods, and
you're gonna get a list of vegans, vegetarians, omnivores, carnivores, pescatarians, whatever,
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whatever diet plan you follow, you're gonna get food choices.
You got to make sure those foods are part of
your diet on a daily basis. Now, I avocados, not
alocardos every single day, but avocardas is one of my
favorite food because that hasand assisting in there. Weight proteins
is great. Brazilian nuts is there. So I'm not say
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I take some ray proteins. I take avocados, but I
have some of those things that I do on a
regular basis. So making sure that my gluta levels are
up because of this diet in the things, right, that's
the number two things. And then once you're over the
age of forty, well, in most cases now it's about thirty.
But if you're healthy, which very few people are unfortunately,
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because we always, oh my god, you look if I
just drink once a week. Now it's not okay if
you drink once a week, right, But anyway, so I
see that most people about the age of thirty, they
need supplementations, and the supplementation choices you have are the
life of some technology that does work a little bit,
and it's assisting that you take that works are fine
(45:53):
as well. Intravenous glow time that works as well. But
if you want to guarantee, if you want to guarantee,
then the body is going to observe the glue thide
and get your results you're looking for. The topical version
that we have created is the only one that we have.
We have never like even when we do the human trials,
we only need thirty patient trials. It's not like like
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out of thirty got the benefit. No, thirty out of
thirty patients saw the increase of the glow tide levels,
and that tells us that everybody got the results. Now,
it's a small trial, so it's not like we have
done a thirty thousand patient trial. It just tells you
that even the small trials you will see at least
one or two outliers. We didn't see zero. We saw zero.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
How do you know.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Let's just say you start your gluterol and you're taking
your eight four in the morning, Forced rays.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
In the morning, force sprace at night.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
How do you know when you're when you're hearing back
from your clients or patients, what are they telling you
that it changes, that they feel the difference, the benefits
of taking.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
It over not over, not over? They stop? What happened?
Speaker 3 (47:06):
It's just all over the place. Like I just got
a call yesterday from a from a from a daughter.
Her mom has multiple sclerosis, and of course there's no
cure for mule scurosis. She was using the glue rule
and she was feeling fantastic. She has more energy, she
felt good, she can do things that around the house.
And then she ran out of the bottle and she
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stopped using it for about four months. The daughter called me.
I said, we could not figure out what why is?
Why is my mother declining? We're giving her every single
thing that she was taking the past. Then they found
out the only thing that she stopped was the gluton.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
And so I just got a call yes, said, oh
my god. So and the reason she called me because
she was she herself is a takes the gluethon. So
she gave her a bow to her mom and use
it for two days and all the symptoms that she
had went away, should energy and immediately she felt bad.
I said, oh my god, it's like it's not you know,
(48:09):
people forget the good days and the bad days, right.
But then when you when you see that that I
was feeling good, I stopping the product, and then I
digress back and you say there and you're back to normal.
That's when the people realize that, oh my god, this
is what it does. My body is actually needing this
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for the rest of my life. And I didn't even
think about it, right, because we take the things for granted.
Take a twenty year old. Twenty year old has no
problem in the world. They think they're invincible. They think
that nothing's going to ever happen to them, right, They
can do whatever they want to do and they'll be okay,
this is what they tell us all the time. But
the reality is that guess what well you do get down?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
So so the energy one sleep better, sleep with me another.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Well oxo stress is the energy sleep memory functions memory.
A lot of the doctors use it for checking the
metabolic markers. So most of the doctors that uses this
brought for their patients. I'm looking at the cholesterol level,
look at the blood pressure, looking at the diabetes levels,
looking at everything that the oxid stress affects, the metabolic markers.
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They're checking all those markers over time, liver function tests
and things like that. So the doctors are using it
for multiple purposes. But the consumers it's hard to tell.
But trust me, if your body is not feeling good,
you can feel a different than thirty days if.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
You have to do this along with other lifestyle changes.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Correct, Like if you had a jump through diet, you
try to take gluterol, It's not It's only going to
be a surface reaction, right, because you still get this
terrible fuel that's coming into your body that is toxic. Right,
So how how how efficacious can glutol be to fight
off bad habits?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
So so, Michelle, the example I can give you is
that you came home with a bag of groceries your door.
You open the door and you take the groceries. Your
hands are fool, so you take the groceries and put
in the kitchen counter. The door is open, the wind
comes over here and basically blows dirts and leaves inside
your house. So what do you do? You take a
brumisart cleaning the thing, But guess what, you can never
(50:27):
clean the house as long as the door is open. Yeah,
so you've got to stop the close the close the door.
You've got to stop the bad behavior. Yeah, you don't
put any more junk inside your inside your body, because
if not, you can clean all day long, but you'll
never be.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Cleaned exactly, so you just said it.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
So you must have a change of behaviors along with
the glutacion in order to get the optimum outcome. But
it's going to do a lot more even if you've
never changed anything. You know, if you're still going to
reduce your oxidative.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Stress right, yes, within the human drout is sure that
also starts to release within four hours, and so repea
application you can suppress of stress down for days, months,
and years, and the benefits will accumuit it over time.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Well, I think the big message here is, like you said,
the reduction or elimination of alcohol, drinking pure water, putting
air purifiers in your home if you can afford that,
or at least, you know, minimizing the toxic load in
your house mold. Mold is a big one as makes
people very you know, oxidatively stressed.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
And then of course the most important is food, your.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Diet So I think if we said said all of that,
if people would agree to make a lifestyle change if
they have bad habits, and then add the glue to
thio along with that lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Change, you're going to get the biggest bang for the buck.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
And I think I saw one of your listen to
one of your podcasts about your dad, and it's a
fascinating story. We don't have the time to go into
it today, but I just that alone, if people are
watching today and have a chance to Google you and.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Listen to some of your podcasts. You've done so many that.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
One about you know how your dad was so transformed
at age eighty nine or eighty whatever. Except Yeah, I
have one more thing though, and before I have to close,
and that is I want to ask about the skincare. Yes, so,
because I mean I have about twenty more things that
I could talk and asked you about, but this is
the skincare I think we have to definitely include in
(52:40):
the podcast. So tell us what is it that it's
in the skincare that's going to transfer be your transformation
for your skin?
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Again, the same thing, right, what is the body needs
the skin? Is the skin is exposed to the enviroment
the most, yeah, the highest one. Else's stress off the
brain is on your skin. Yeah right, and so the
skin is damaged the whole time. The skin with what
we say is the refresher was what what bies from
inside is. So then what I did was, since with
(53:09):
the technology, I was able to deliver gloth ion envitamin C,
I said, what if if I can take all the
other antaxes that we know they're good for us to
trink the size and put into this this small into
into into the couple of products. Because the face is
only like six square inches. Yeah, put ten different creams
on your face. Yes, if I can combine all of
(53:32):
them at full concentration into this one or two products,
that's what we've done pretty much. So our skincare line
has gloth on, vitamin C, d M A, carnosine, resvertral
cyclostrogenol co Q ten. I mean, everything that I can
think of that I need for my body, I put
into my skin care line. And guess what we create
(53:55):
routine two syrups and two creams morning, two products, eating
two products, and it has transformed so many skins. So
I'm so happy about that one.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah, you know I'm sorry that I didn't.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
I was so focused on the gluterol and I was
at the show in December that I didn't even look
at your skincare. But I think every woman that's listening today,
even men too, I assume you're using your own products
because your skin looks radiant.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah. So you do use it on your you use
it on your body, on your face and your body,
or just your face.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
By facing arms. Yeah, I'm facing arms. And again I'm
a guy, so I don't like the big routines. Yeah.
And so for the first three years I didn't do anything,
and then end of last year is when I started
using the full skincare and literally in tum the whole
skin change. And now I can't go back. I'll use
it every day.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
I need to try.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'm gonna I'm gonna get in touch with you offline
so I get an ordering for the skincare.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
I've got to try it, absolutely, and.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Everybody that's listening, if they want to contact you and
get somebo your products.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
How do they do that?
Speaker 3 (55:03):
So go to my website or wellness dot com au
R wellness dot com. If you have never tried any
glue tine products, or if you take glue tine products,
you've got to give you a thirty day try. I
promise you would not be disappointed. It is not as
easy to take it because this has a little older
to it. It'll stick it to it. But once again,
inside your body, it gets really really fast inside your body.
(55:24):
The results in some case are instantaneous. In some case
it takes about two weeks. And if you don't get
any results in thirty days, patch yourself on the back
because guess what, your AXS stress is low. You're healthy.
You should be appreciative of all the good behaviors you
have done so far, and please continue to have a
good behavior.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
And you know what else I would suggest if you
make a bigger bottle for the gluterol, if that's possible,
because you know the I bought the two little bottles.
I don't know, are you making a larger size now
than the two ones that I got there?
Speaker 1 (55:58):
I think what probably one or two holes? One else?
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yeah, each other? Each one was little lastly about thirty days.
And we want to make sure that people have a
smaller bottle so easily carry most traveling nowadays. So if
we want to make sure there were bottles.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, yeah, but I would buy both because I travel,
so I would have the one for travel and the
one for home, and that way I don't have to
bother you every thirty days, and it's probably economically better
for the consumer too. So just a suggestion that from
someone who's been very loyal to your product since December,
and I tell everybody so that, you know, because I
(56:35):
was using liposomal I. You know, I'm very close with
Quicksilver and Scientific Doctor Crishade and you know I use
a lot of their products.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Yeah, they have.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
They're one of my very close friends, doctor Doctor Shade
and Robert Slovak, both co founders of the company. So
they're both people that I you know, I tried to
support their product, but now.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
I don't use the Lipersomo. I only use yours.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
So well, you also speak for itself. That's what that's
what we're hoping for everybody.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, you should be very proud of yourself because you
worked a long time to get to this point, and
you had some bumps on the road and some you know,
like we.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Said, a little bit of dead end here and there
where you thought it wasn't going to work, and then
you came back to it, like you said in one
of your.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Podcasts that somebody in your office had to burn and
you saw, oh.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
My gosh, we should resurrect this. So everything happens for
a reason, you know, Nyan.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yes it does, and I'm glad you. You know that's
that's like too many stories out told over time to
too many different people.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Well I listened to all.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Of them, so that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
I like to prepare before the the yeah, the podcast,
So I tried it. But I think we had a
great talk today and I really appreciate you taking the time.
I know you have another meeting coming up, so I
want to say goodbye to you and have a beautiful
weekend and thank you again, and I'll get in touch
with you about ordering your book and some more product.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
Thank you so much appreciating
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