August 5, 2025 • 57 mins
In this energizing episode, Michele Hughes sits down with Dr. Robert Weil—also known as “The Sports Doctor”—to explore the powerful connection between foot health, athletic performance, and longevity. With over 40 years of clinical and radio experience, Dr. Weil shares stories from his work with elite athletes, Olympic figure skaters, and weekend warriors, shedding light on how podiatry plays a vital role in injury prevention, performance enhancement, and overall wellness.From the epidemic of youth sports overuse injuries to the rise of complementary medicine and functional fitness, Dr. Weil brings humor, science, and heart to a conversation that touches everyone—whether you're a grandparent chasing grandkids or a pickleball enthusiast chasing a ball. He offers practical tips for strengthening feet and ankles, discusses the mental game in sports and life, and explains why orthotics can be a game changer.
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Medical Disclaimer –Ageless and Timeless PodcastAgeless and Timeless (the “Show”), along with its host and guests, shares insights and discussions on health, wellness, and longevity for informational and educational purposes only. The Show does not provide medical advice, diagnoses, treatments, cures, or preventative recommendations for any disease or health condition. The content shared should not be used as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.While we strive to feature reputable sources and knowledgeable guests, neither Ageless and Timeless nor its host or affiliates assume responsibility for errors, omissions, or misinterpretations in the information provided. Listeners are encouraged to use their own discretion and consult with a licensed medical professional before making any health-related decisions. By listening to this podcast, you acknowledge that any actions you take based on the information presented are at your own risk, and Ageless and Timeless, its host, guests, and affiliates are not liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages resulting from the use of this content.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. Today,
I'm traveling and I'm in a little different spot and
I'm hoping all the production will go smoothly as we
have an incredible production person named Tony Sweet who's I've
been with for six years now, so hopefully he's going
to be able to take this away. It should with
(00:32):
zoom over wherever you are, So thank you, Tony, and
I want to welcome my guest today, doctor Bob Wile,
who's just one of the most incredible people. You're gonna
love hearing from him. He's he I was on his show.
He has a radio show on BBS Radio One Place
(00:52):
and also UK Health Radio called The Sports Doctor, and well, uh,
he's gonna tell you all about what he does. He's
a pedietress, so this is an area of the medical
field that we haven't really covered, so we're gonna hear
about that as it relates to your feet, as they
relate to your health and of course your athletic ability.
(01:17):
So welcome doctor Wilde.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hey, Michelle, it's great the trade radio shows with you.
The show which is a guest of mine just a
couple of weeks ago on the sports doctor again when
you're talking anything ageless or timeless. So again I could
start right out by singing the song the footbones connected
to the ankle, bones, connected to the nebone. So many
postal problems are foot related. Whether it's someone who's a
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senior and we're trying to prevent falling, it's one of
my famous figure skaters maybe doing a triple or a
quad jump and trying to land, you know, with six
seven times their way. So the world of sports for
dietary is one that incorporates all these air Where is
my specialty is youth sports, yeah, and seniors and I
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you know, superstars to Grandma's Michelle.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I love that and you know, and that's great, and
you know, just a little bit about you before we
start into all your wonderful activities and focus in your
medical career and pedetary but also of course and pedietry
as it relates to sports. So just tell us a
(02:28):
little bit more about your journey. How did you get
forty plus forty five years as a radio host and
what is it that's made you so passionate that you've stuck.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
With it For the Adventures of Live The Adventures of
Live Radio Oh wow, the guest is missing, they got
the wrong time zone, et cetera, et cetera. I was
very fortunate in the late seventies to meet the late
great sports trainer Bob Geide Yeah in glenn Ellen, Illinois
sports Fitness Institute with his wife at the time. Was
(03:01):
a champion weightlifter and osteopathic position and Bob was the
guy that the Jimmy Connors and the Walter Payton's and
the John mcenrose and the kill Buckner's and the superstars
and everybody in between. He was a strength and conditioning
coach of the Olympic volleyball team, and Bob had a
tremendous connection with the role of the foot. He'd say,
(03:24):
I want the athlete's feet to be like a cat,
where they're almost on the beach and they're working all
these areas, because whether you're coming down from a rebound
or again you're taking off for the first base, or
you're moving Hey, you're a pick a ball player, you know,
and all of a sudden you find out, wow, this
is physical. So I ended up being his pediatrist, and
(03:47):
over those years I had the good fortune again to
add orthotics, whether it was to McEnroe. Tracy Austin was
one of my great You know, now the Wimbledon is
going on and where we're all excited, But I just
am celebrating the fifteenth year of the young boy from Illinois,
(04:08):
Evan Lysachek, who was nine and a half years old
when I put orthodox in his cigy skates. It's one
of my real specialties. And maybe twelve thirteen years later
he was the Olympic gold medalist, hosting Dancing with the Celebrities, etc.
So the challenges of youth sports, Michelle, whether you are
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a parent, you're a coach, and you have a talented
young son and a daughter, you know what the pressure
is like, Mom, I got to play. My knees are
killing me, et cetera, et cetera. So I got involved
on the radio side because guy who was involved vocality
with the Bears, he was seeing Gary Fan sick and
some of the Mike Ditka, he's the Mike Ditka. And
(04:54):
I then joined the College of do Page and the
famous w k DC blues jazz station and they had
specialty shows and I think the Sports Doctor came on
after the Lawnmower show. I'm not sure. For show I
have to look it up, but I did twenty years
there and I've probably had over one thousand guests in
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every area you could think of. Again from the I
had a Taoist on two months ago talking about the
three thousand year old rules that some of them make
as much sense today as they do yesterday. I had
on a neuro scientist talking about hand eye coordination. He
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worked with the elite fighters, et cetera. So that's been
the journey that I have been on, and I get
a chance again to share with my audiences all these topics,
you know, whether it's the world of youth sports, whether
it's you know, the world of the eighty year old.
(05:58):
You want to keep walking, you want to beat ageless,
don't you.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well that's what we're all about. Yes, what's changed in
the forty four years forty five years?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What awareness? And I'm in a big part of it.
I'll take some crash haha. Or the awareness, whether it's
the importance of kids still having fun in youth sports,
whether it's the importance or are you in the right
shoe for your foot mechanics? Hey here, you're a dancer
in two inch heels. Let's talk about that. It was
(06:32):
one of my famous articles Women and High Heels. So
the awareness of what we're talking about again, whether it's
children having a good time. We're all aware of the
over zealous yelling parent on the sidelines in youth sports.
We're also aware over the years with gymnastics, the abusive medicine,
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and some of these other things that have gone on.
My book hash tag Case Sports Parents. I co authored
it with a famous volleyballer, Sharky's Artman, who's had a
radio show feed Ears. So awareness of whatever we're talking
(07:14):
about education again, whether I'm dealing with the world of
coaching or the world of athletic training or parenting. And
you know, the new stuff in youth sports, whether it's
the paid paintingon athletes. Wow, what are they going to
do with that? And some of these other challenges. And
(07:36):
the reason I co authored the book, Michelle, is the epidemic.
Write that down everybody in capitals, the epidemic of youth
sports overuse injuries too much, so I call it the
Terrible twos. And again, if you're a young talented ten
twelve year old tennis player, figure skater, ballet, he's doing
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it in ten days a week and we start running
into all sorts of problems. And Guida again was famous
for training and working with these young athletes, whatever their
sport was. And you know the two things you paid
the attention to do. You write this also down the
two exercises you want to include, whatever your level, age
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or sport. Number one to strengthen your feet Anklesclude strengthening
your feet ankles the number one injury in sports, period
of your ankles forever and the abuse. So you want
to strengthen your feet and angles. And the number two
work balance, whether you're eighty years old and you're working
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with standing on one foot at a time, or you
were in guide his clinic balancing on the mini trium
with whatever sport you were working with. And these areas
of awareness and education. We've had a lot of good news,
but I got news for you. If we're talking, for example, diabetes, obesity,
(09:11):
childhood obesity, all which I've featured for decades. We're treading water.
Is it a mess?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Except don't you feel do you feel that the semiglue
tides are offering Yeah, a rabbit cutting edge.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm excited. Let's not get over zealous here.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
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Speaker 3 (09:37):
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Speaker 2 (10:22):
Jessica is one of the champions. She's also a champion weightlifter,
Jessica Biel, and she's We've talked about these challenges, whether
we're talking about CBD. I have champion in marijuana and
in sports for decades, far as whether it was a
pain reducer or it helped you sleep better, etcetera, etcetera.
(10:43):
So now the world of reginitive medicine, world of again
are my friend. For one hundred years. Bob Goldman, the
superstar and anti aging I did pedietry with his National
Academy of Sports Medison maybe forty years ago when he
was first starting, and he goes, you know, Bob gets
(11:03):
thousands of people together with the anti aging world for
decades and a big part of it, like you said
at Ageless Timeless, is this whole you know, peptide related,
biohacking related. I included in the mental game. I pay
huge attention on the sports doctor to the mental game.
(11:26):
Whether I have psychiatrists on his guests and have contributed
to my book. Is the great holistic sport psychiatrist adult
and child psychiatrist adopted Denitis McDermott, and she of course
uses his drugs when indicated, but she's huge in the
whole mental side, in the whole area. So regenitive medicine
(11:52):
we're excited about. I know that feel that you evolved
very involved with you know, the Best Doctor magazine and
your column. And you know, our friend Rob Fletcher, the
Hall of Fame martial artist and a few years on
my show, he'd paid big attention to that. We got
to get these girls and women learning how to protect themselves.
(12:14):
And I was a big fan of it, and now
he's doing a lot of great things. So we're both
on the same team in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You're an educator, Well, you want to make a difference
in the world that I was seeking the answers, and
many people yeah, good luck to buying their solutions to
their issues, particularly not with the t allopathic model, which
is really looking to cure symptoms and not the root cause. Well,
(12:43):
i'll tell you slacking the I talk about.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's a big deal again. You could write it down.
It's called the new medicine. It's very simple. The new
medicine is Number one, eats smarter. I'll leave it up
to you in the category. We could talk for twenty hours, right,
don't needing smarter? Number two is keep moving. Whether you
want to go to the gym, whether you like yoga,
whether you want to include tai chi, whether you want
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to do whatever we want to include. Keep moving. Number
three is a big one. We're talking about it. Reduce stress,
learn how to include rest and recovery, whether you want
to be a meditator, whether you want to talk mental training.
You know the late great sports psychologist, psychologist, doctor Jim
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Vic grey back in the eighties, Michelle, he couldn't use
the words of psychology and he worked with the teams
he worked with the colleges Northwest, and the word psychologie,
what do you mean you think there's something wrong with me?
So that's the new medicine, and it includes a lot
of attention to where your world is, which is new
(13:49):
to many. It's new to medicine in a lot of ways.
Yet it's been around semi forever, right.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Well, if you look at ioveda and you know the
fire you made it, right, Yeah, And some of those
Asian or Eastern medicine they've been doing it for thousands
of year, and you know acupuncture.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
But you know, somehow or rather when it gets to
become mainstream in America, they we think it is brand new.
He's something we're discovered for.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
These do therapy. Bob Guida, he called it vibrational medicine
that he was doing. Yes, he was doing the same
kind of deep dege massage as my international guest friend colleague,
also a teammate of mine in the National Fitness Halo
fame doctor James Stockson, internationally known sports. This is very
(14:39):
close friend.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He's a very close friend of mine in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes, yes, the sports doctor.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Team doctors, Team doctors.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I get it right. He was on my show two
weeks ago, three weeks ago, he was on one hundred
years ago.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, he's a friend.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
This is interesting, Michelle. The titles of what was then
from many years called alternative medicine, I've had all of
them on my show. I had many of them contribute
to the book. Again, Eastern medicine, which was ti whether
it was tai Chi, Chinese medicine. We featured compared to
what we've been stuck with in a lot of ways,
(15:18):
which is again, it's an injection, it's a pill with surgery,
it's treating the symptoms, it's it works twelve hours. But
when we had that title alternative medicine, it was adversarial.
So I spent ten years on the show, given to
take a few weeks talking with all sorts of people,
and we said, let's call it complimentary medicine. That's good. Yes,
(15:42):
And now we're all on the same team. And I think, again,
these areas that you're very involved with, you know, again,
whether it's the highest level of sports performance, and you know,
my guest on the radio show yesterday doctr Vasquez. Whether
he's working with the top elite fighters in the world
or he's talking to business people, he's you know, he's
(16:05):
all about these leadership skills. That side of it also,
and you know, we try to pay a lot of
attention to communication for sports parents and again, the more
talented your son or daughter is. I just had a
feature article in the magazine that the supporter of MINE
(16:25):
l e R. Lower Extremity Review just celebrated the sixteenth
year and their great publisher, Rich Dubin a numerous numerous
guests of MINE. I've written numerous articles to him. One
was pickleball is Physical back in two twenty, where no
one knew how to spell pickleball. But the recent one
(16:46):
was the Prodigy Sports, and it was all about specialization
with these kids. When every doctor and parent and athletic
trainer wants and girls to play numerous sports, want them
to use different parts of the body, have different experiences,
and that's what we want them to do. And that's great.
(17:09):
What's your gymnast, right, or a ballerina or a figure skater,
and now even soccer and tennis, and my colleague down
there and the Panhandle baseball where the team doctor the Yankees.
Doctor Chris Amad has been a guest of my numerous times,
and he said, guess what, doctor Bob of Tommy John
(17:31):
surgery's on teenagers? Whoa where is all this overuse? It'my yes,
elbow surgery on young pitchers and baseball players. Like I
could say to you knee problems with all the young
volleyballers or uh the idea that you know, knee problems
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and females are about five to one. So we want
to pay big attention to the fact that, yes, people
want to be as ageless and as timeless as they can.
I'm a big fan, but you got to be smart
and you got to pay attention to what your physical
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or mental history is. You want to pay attention to
the fact that you're not playing a court sports with
running shoes on, for example, and that you are even
shit properly. Would it surprise you that over forty percent
of our population or not fit properly with is shoes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I know, and so okay, So as long as you
brought that up, dive a little deeper into pedetary and
how did you decide to be a doctor of pedetary refers,
what was it motivated you and made you so passionate.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yes, I wanted to stay away from Vietnam as much
as I could. And medical school, Yes, medical school was
one of the areas that I was always interested in,
and Navy dentistry and pedietry came on my radar as
something that was so broad based. Again, it could be
the best athletes in the world, or it could be
senior citizens, it could be children, it could be diabetics.
(19:13):
You know, the first profession to see diabetes many times
is the foot doctor because that's where the symptoms start.
So it was something that I found very, very interesting.
And again I was very fortunate. After I got out
and I started paying any attention, I ran into guide
and all of a sudden I got involved at the
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most exciting levels of these athletes and what they were facing.
And the idea, which is because I'll tell you something
which is interesting your listeners, many people will say, does
my son or daughter or do I need orthotics? And
for everybody listening to orthodics, our prescription inserts to properly
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align optimally the foot and ankle, because the foot and
ankle affect everything. Because you've had chronic back problems. It
might not be caused by your flat feet, but it
ain't helping you in any in any instances. So the
ID and then foot inserts now are a big deal.
If they're all over the internet. You can go to Walgreens.
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There's a thousand inserts. They are not prescription devices.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Don't you don't recommend them?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh no, that's why I use one hundred percent. I
use them as something you could use for a week
or two until we get you into what's optimum. And
again even if we're not till you're not. They don't
have to be a superstar. You might be someone hey doctor,
well I run five days a week and my I
have shin splints. Or you know my big problem plant
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a fastch it. It's the arch to the heel, common
common problem. So if you have, for example, inherited flat
feet mm hm, or you've inherited the opposite, this is
much less common. High origies. The high arches might be
connected to John McEnroe, and that's why he's quicker than
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everybody mechanically. So the idea again of paying attention to
what's been your history. You know, whether you were a
high school athlete, whether you're looking to get back into activity.
So pedietry was a great fit. And then I started
to learn not only about the surgical side, whether it
was the hammer toes and these other bunyans. You know,
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women ask all the time, you know, surgically, I have
seen seventy five year old grandma. You know the enlarged
thick bump on the side of the big toe. The
big toe is the lever of your feet. I'm sure
I'll bet you fifty more of your listeners have heard
the terms pronation and supernation. Of course, they are normal
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motions of the fetnankles, right, and they have a few
courtant jobs. One of them is shock absorption. Every time
you land on your heel, you generating fifty percent of
you eight right once you bear weight, that stops. Now
you're pushing off. So there was all of his excitement.
And then in the late seventies I met Candy Brown
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and she was very involved in it. She was a
figure skating coach, she was a former champion, and she said,
you know this young boy in your neighborhood, Glen Ellen,
This kid's flying all over the ice doing double and
triple bump jumps. He ended up being an Olympian, the
late great Angelo do Augostino and Candy was paying very
very big attention to you know, these young kids, are
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we getting them strong enough? And the answer was no way,
they were doing the activity. You know, I have ten
year olds. They do double jumps all day, five six
days a week. So the concept of the importance of
the feet and how they affect all these areas was very,
very exciting. Pedietry was getting included over the years in
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the Olympics. It was getting you know, part of the team.
The orthopedic surgeon, the chiropractic is tissue therapist, and again
Bob Guider was very famous for vibrational therapy. Think of
a massage, think of a deep massage gun, think of
it being very therapeutic for whatever the injury happens to be.
And Stocks and also manufacture is his own doctor, teen
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doctors again deep you know stocks and flies all over
the world to see afflets. He worked with the Wiggles
to be talked about that he got the guy.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
From here the whole shore.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Remember the Wiggles, right everybody? My kids loved them.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, well I got he actually got me tickets from
my nephews. For there was Wiggles were going to be
in Atlanta and I had some family members there, so
he was able to get them to get backstage and
meet them, and it was it was pretty exciting for
the I never I think I became the favorite aunt
at that moment in time because of my ability to
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get them into that concert. But yeah, the Thumper is
one of his he originally developed and then he's got
you know, more advanced models. Now, yes, the besides but
but you know today PEMF post electron electric magnetic therapy
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that's become the darling of the sports world for or
even just for weaken more.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I was into magnets in the nineties. We were even
using stationary magnets. I still find if someone says, I
have a therapeutic magnet patch, will it help stimulate healing?
The answer is almost always it's not magic. But we've
had great success. We use magnetic insults for years. I
put them on top of orthotics. You know, in America
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with the hype and the whole thing with the you know,
it was just a little much in a lot of ways.
But you know, one of my famous guests, uh Gary Reinold,
who wrote the famous book.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I see he's going to be on my podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Answered tell him, tell him how he's been.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I'm not sure Dunn power is connecting us right now, Rober.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yes, yes, he was in the in the crosshairs of
the whole sports world because he was saying ice it's fake. Yeah,
all for numbing.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Geida was when Guida said stretching could be hamful, We're
overdoing it, and both of them. I used to laugh
at both of them that people were out to uh
to get you, man, because you're going against religion. But
he also worked with every professional team, and he worked
with every Olympic team Gary Reinold, and he was always
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involved with stimulating the areas surrounding the injured joint. So
if your ankle was injured, he have you working your toes,
bending your knees. And he represented one of the countries
leading electromagnetic therapeutic to pieces for as long as I
know them, and it isn't a big deal. And I
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still find ultrasound, high speed ultrasound, it's been around forever
one of the most successful ways to calm down inflammation
and injury. And we've we've played with them all. One
of my pediatary colleagues, doctor Ben Purrow in Virginia very
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big into again you know, shock therapy also very therapeutic
when you're dealing with dancers or show members or athletes
who are saying, you know, Michelle, I got to get
better yesterday. What can you do for me? You know,
good luck to you. But all of these things hands on.
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This is why I had you know, sports Fitness Institute
was owned by a chiropractor who hired guide and.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Chiropractic was always ahead of whether it was exercise or
diet and non drugs well.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And if I've had one chiropractor on my show over
whatever the heck it is, I've had fifty.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I don't compare the chiropractic to the osteopath, which I've always.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Rarey Christian, great question. The osteopath is an MD with
chiropractic skills. So doctors that I have on from the
Olympic work Tony Liazzo, he's been a he's a local doc.
He's been one hundred times. Uh. The one of the
orthopedics from Jersey, doctor Sean McMillan. The do os A
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do O is every much an MD in their specialty,
whether it's orthopedics, whether it's ophthalmology, whether it's foot, ankle,
et cetera, et cetera. The difference is and that's why
we had one on the bears since the beginning. The
hand is on now when it comes to adjustment and manipulation.
And if you want us with hairs between the DOO
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and the orthopedy and the chiropractor. But here's what's funny,
and I tell my friends who are team doctors orthopedis
both the chiropractor highly skilled and the DOO highly skilled,
are better analysts in so many ways than the orthopedist.
The orthopedist is a surgeon. He ain't somebody who's picking
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up that the guy's guide an eighth and shortage and
again leg shortage and all of these things. So this
is why the chiropractor who would sing the song and
the do hip bones connected to the backbones, to the
knee bone, and I'm in the background singing the foot
bones connected to the ankle bone, and then we kneed
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in the middle. So people need to understand is nothing
negative medically about the do O in their specialty. They
are the same as the MD. And that's always been
a hassle in one way, or another, and still to
this day you have that question. I'm glad you brought
it up.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So all the athletes that you've interviewed and are you've
known over the years, who would you if you were
doing the Academy Award or an Olympic level of the
best of the who is Who's that?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Jani Noah was the great Frenchman who won the French
Open and became so myth famous that he had a
move to New York the eighties. And because he was
the French champion in tennis in Roland Garros and he
became a superstar, then he became a superstar in music.
His son Jaquin became a great player for the Chicago Bulls.
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But of all the athletes we saw, as well as
some of the volleyballers and the international players, all are
a Gary Fencik, a defensive back with the Chicago Bears,
was another one, as again was McEnroe, who was quicker
(30:02):
on his feet than so many others. But Yannick was
also maybe even more limber athletic. And when we think
back again, you know, if you'd think you think McEnroe
is an example, McEnroe unzipped his racket was the best
in the world. He said, I out got it trained.
Tracy Austin had pretty bracelets. Both of them borrowed my
(30:26):
car when they were here to train a guy at
one time or another. My kids loved both of them.
They weren't best friends, but they spent a lot. Tracy
Austin spent the whole summer trying to come back and
win the US Open in the nineteen eighties. But she
wasn't an athlete when Martina. Either was Chris Everett. They
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all learned, and Guida was one of the ones who
said to these tennis players, you don't understand. You gotta
be one of the best athletes, not just tennis players.
Now if you're a tennis and everybody I'm a big.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Man and a former, or I'm not a former, she'll play.
But tennis is one of my favorite sports.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Big time. You got to you gotta tell Okay two
weeks ago, you know about the unbelievable final, and they've
played tomorrow in the semifinals. Djokovic of course is playing center.
But al Kraz and Sinner five hours, twenty nine minutes. Now,
I have a contest on the Sports Doctor once to
twice a year have done fears. It's a fun contest.
(31:31):
And it's exactly what she.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Ask, Well, did you hear about the Women's Wimbledon that
the American upstair?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I watched it, Yes, you have to do.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
What did you think of her as well?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
On is a headcase? The number one player in the world, Sarahtoma. Yes,
he's great a player as she is. She's handled it.
She didn't lose it mentally, but she had a chance.
And she again somehow this young American who's been in
this crazy experience, she stepped away from the game for
a while. You know, people said, where are the Americans now?
(32:06):
They're all over the place. So this kid and I
watched her interview at the mental game, and you know,
and talking about that moment again the word mindfulness, which
in sports medicine is such a big deal. Medicine didn't
know how to spell mindfulness twenty years ago. You know
what it means.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
That's a very interesting shape.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Me in the moment. Yeah, and you is the that
use you're on the foul line show. Oh you're serving
for the match. You've never been there before, and you
can't see straight. You're you're so nervous, so this young
American beating the number one player in the world again,
who has got some challenges, keeping her temper under control
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and all of these things. And if you're a player,
you understand. The great Lou Vickery who pitched for the
Yankees and Cardinals in the in the sixties. And I'm
bringing them up because he's a eighties champion tennis doubles champion,
and he had a podcast, which is What's Your Racket?
(33:08):
And I would show up the sports doctors in But
Lou had a show on the pan Handle for years
called Lou in the Morning. He's a very successful businessman.
He's written twenty five books. But his big point that
I would be on we were talking overus with these kids,
with these baseball players playing, you know, ten days a week,
but in the world of tennis, he was paying such
(33:30):
attention again to whether it was sportsmanship on the left.
You know, John McEnroe, why do you okay? You know
all that screaming and ranting and raving. When I first
met John McEnroe, he was on the phone with his
father wearing a torn top coat. He was like twenty
years old. He came in to see guy. There we
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were seeing him. He's arguing with his father on the
phone about who knows what the heck it was. But
you know, the mental game and the the idea that
you know, senior tennis is a big deal. So you
might want lou Vickery on as a guest sometime because
he's an eighties champion and what does it take to
(34:12):
still be playing when you're eighty years old? We talk
about his top spin backhand.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Well, we have you mentioned when we spoke earlier about
Rod Labor and all of them, Yes, well in that
whole generation, right of Jimmy Connor was a little later,
but they still they all still play, right.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Oh yeah. None of them lifted weights and nobody paid.
They didn't pay big attention to nutrition as much, and
they were eighty five pounds. Now you're looking at these
guys routine with this kid's six eight, this other kid,
and it's just so the evolution, including the female athlete,
you would Tracy Austin said, you know, I never lifted
(34:57):
weights to train. That that's a guy that got her
head into which is you better be an athlete if
you want to compete with Martina. And Chris Evertt learned
the same thing and of course today it's it's a
whole new world and it includes that is that player
in the best you know, how much have they been
(35:19):
evaluated for the ankle? How much are they strengthening and training?
It's an exciting world.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Why do you think the authors have gotten so much tolerance?
What's what's contributed to that?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Maybe they're taking your peptides. I think overall, whatever the
evolution is, there's a tremendous evolution in the training of
these kids. How much that invigorates growth. It's a great question,
but with a lot of attention. That's why I have
sports nutritionists contributed to my book, and as people I
(35:53):
talk to all the time. Are d k another great
guests field Katie Davis a sports nutritionist, or what's a pharmacist?
That whole world about women and their menstrual cycles and
nutrition and hormones and all of these things that became
such a big deal. So all these things were added
(36:13):
to the mix. Now, if we had a time machine,
we could go back twenty years, and let's go back
and let's say that none of these things were added.
No one ever became a better athlete, no one paid
big attention. You know, they still had a stake. Nobody
paid attention to rest and recovery, proper sleep huge yesterday,
(36:36):
that's all they talked about with neuroscience. Would they be
the same size? Great question. I think the world of
calories and nutrition has made a huge different. I mean,
you see a six for eight shortstop, what are you crazy?
You see a six fort eleve and ten basketball shooting.
Look at women's the WNBA athletes. Here's a funny story.
(37:00):
It's only thirty seconds. Bob Guide and I are walking
into a sports softball facility again it's the eighties. We're
listening to a cracker that we're working with both men's
and women's fast pitched teams with seeing some of these kids.
We're listening to the crack of the bat which could
like take your hat off. Whoever was hitting in the
(37:21):
aisle you know next to us that we're walking in,
and he was mentioning the name with three guys in
a row. He walked in. Its two of the girls
who were shortstops, and guy just sits down. He says,
these girl athletes are just unbelievable in their growth as athletes.
You know when you were a kid, maybe he played
pomp pops if you had sports to play in many ways,
(37:44):
So it's a great science, you know, and people again
like whether it's the whole world with Goldman, the whole
world with people like Stocks and my organization, the next
National Fitness Hall of Fame, Jack Laley. We just had
a member of our National Fitness Hall of Fame two
weeks ago, competed as a senior sixty four years old
(38:08):
on the American Ninja. I love yeah. Man. He tried
his best, and the fact that training he was doing,
you wouldn't believe it. Wouldn't believe it. He was on
TV two weeks ago. He's coming back, try to play.
So the evolution and I think the things that you
do and have talked about, I'm sure many of your
(38:29):
guests when you're talking top doctors. Yes, top doctors are
still engorged with the regular doctors that we're all used to,
and our healthcare system stinks in so many ways. It's
so many.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Hopefully, hopefully there's going to be changes with them.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I have experts on all the time, every level, whether
it's the financial level, whether it's the teaching level, whether
it's the learning level. You know, I have mayors on
I have others on. There's a lot of attention and awareness,
you know. But one time, twenty five years ago, I
wanted to get all schools locally to include walking in
(39:11):
the curriculum. And the politics that I ran into.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Really, ha, Yes, why was that? Why walking it steel safe?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
And can they be inside? And what if they're in
a neighborhood and what if there's a problem and changing
the curriculum and I said, leave me alone already. But
we talked about it, and it is being included in
a lot of ways. You know, you have more anxiety
teenagers than ever. And my holistic psychiatris said, it's the
internet world and it's the pressure. But she likes and
(39:45):
this is a big point because I never included it.
We all know the hassles of the internet and screens
on our kids and us. She said, no, we have
to look at it as entertainment and as a side show.
So I allow my children, even if they're athletes, to
accept that, yes they're on the phone all the time,
but they're using it as some sort of escape from
(40:10):
their parents or their coaches. And she's had great success
with that when you think about it, But this is
the what's piling on all of us. Now, if you
add the pandemic to the mix, and I'll throw in
politics without defining it to the mix where you know,
(40:32):
people are burning the candle on twelve ends, so you know,
we want to be part of the educational world in
a pedietry again by itself, and they roll over foot
and everything that brings into I have a colleague. He's
the founder of an organization called LEAP l EAP Lower
Extremity Amputation Prevention. Huge problem in diabetes. Of course, you
(40:59):
know they had a name type two diabetes because of
how many children we were seeing. So we've adult on set.
This is a gigantic problem. A lot of it is diet,
a lot of it is where is again the PE
program for kids. So with all the progress we're making
that I'm bragging to you about, we're treading water and
(41:24):
we need lots of attention of awareness again, whether it's
the magazines, Gosh, it's hard to find an actual magazine
is Day and Age because you know, everything is like virtual.
But those are the combinations that I add to the
(41:44):
realm of the sports doctor. I'm part of an organization
called the Publicity Summit, originally they were across the street
from Madison Square Garden Bradley Communications. We'd bring together meet
the media, so we would be as part of the media.
Maybe you would be speed dated by an author or
(42:06):
a doctor, or an entrepreneur or an editor on why
they might be on your show. And this has exploded
in a talent pool that really really has avased me
in so many areas. And you get in mental recovery,
these kinds of challenges anxiety awareness. It's the biggest topic
(42:26):
in our country is mental health.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, so, Bob, if you could have a perfect world,
if you look as you defined it, what would that
look like.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
It's the new medicine again, awareness of the new medicine.
It is a healthcare system that takes care of all
of us whatever we got to figure out. Having the
anxiety that you can go bankrupt or your parents could
go bankrupt. Is so being covered for that without that worry.
(42:59):
Every advances country in the world. The again, the idea
that you would be again including the fact of the
importance of reducing stress of rest and recovery both physically
and mentally, and paying big attention to that. So again,
(43:19):
where we would have a situation where you would have
much more cooperation somehow, even spiritually. The best athletes in
the world today include spirituality and not hung up on religion.
Albani's religion, you know, good luck to you. Hey, it's
more adversary than anything else. But spiritually it is a
(43:42):
higher power. All of these other things are a tremendous weapon,
whether it's with you know, trying to live one day
to the other. So I would again include the awareness
and the reduction of pressure and sharing. You know, if
we could just buy into in the perfect world again.
I have very famous colleagues series of books called Conversations
(44:04):
with God by Neil Donald Walsh. I don't know if
you've ever heard of that. They're profound, Yeah, and they
are about three principles of all of it. Nine books,
three principles, perfect world, having fun with it. They're very simple.
Think about it. Number one, we're all one. Somehow can
you get off killing each other? Somehow can you get
(44:28):
off this that you don't know how to get along?
Number two, there's enough, whether it's food, whether it's money,
whether it's sunshine, Whether there's enough if we could somehow
not have a thousand children to day dying of hunger,
because we don't know how to hell to share it.
We don't know how to number them. Yes, and number
(44:48):
three is there's nothing we have to do. Again, this
is again part of the conversations with God thinking, which
is everybody's going to heaven. There's no such thing as dead.
Get off it already. There's not a vengeful of you know, God,
who's after us. We're born in sin. It's all a
lot of baloney. We have to have a different definition
(45:10):
of what that means to us. Again, number one, we're
all on. Number two, there's enough everybody. And number three,
you know, don't don't shoot me because you got to
rob me. Go to you know what I mean. I
legalize drugs tomorrow, I would require I would take the
money out of it. You're out of business cartel. If
you want, you want heroin, go to a clinic. We'll
(45:33):
pay attention to it. You can get a clean needle,
you'll get therapy if you need so. That would be
the perfect world. If somehow, according to conversations with God,
we are primitive. We don't know how to stop killing
each other. So again, at the top level, you want
to throw in sports medicine. We're trying to have fun.
(45:53):
We're trying to include being as ageless and as timeless
as we can. You know, eighties, the new sixty sixty,
he's a new fifty that we want to pay big
attention to the physical side. What's your medical history? Pay
attention and again number two, which is to learn how
to at least include that you are including movement and
(46:16):
that you are paying attention to the mental game. And
then we do the best we can. You know, then
I'll be a flip a coin, raise a glass.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well you you said in the very beginning, you know
what I call the five spokes of the wheel when
we talk about nutrition and stress management and movement, and
but there was one that you I wanted to add
in there that I think is very much evident in
the Blue zones where Dan Butner, you know, has written
(46:47):
his book and there's so much research now on these
centenarians and why are they what they are? Well, those
you know, those few principles you've already mentioned, but then
they are always add community connection.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
So and tennis was number one, you know, of all
sports the people if it's an amazing figured they would
come up with these stats. But the sport that allows
the longest longevity is tennis. It's racket sports where you
have maybe a teammate, you have socialization, you know, you
have all these areas that become important. And I think
(47:26):
I'm glad you've added that because it's such a main component.
But again, these people have learned to live off the
land nutritionally, They've learned they needed to walk to wherever
they were going. They included being on real surfaces again,
where you were barefoot. In a lot of ways, we
need to look back and include those principles.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Well, of course, the ancient wisdom very often is neglected,
and yet it's timeless. Yeah, we talk about angels and timeless.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
That's why I had to be fust on from the
from the Netherlans, the actly we were talking about, you
know Laotsu who wrote you know again the famous famous
book Timeless and you know, twenty five hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Whatever the heck it was right and the what was
the name of that book? How could that escape me?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I don't know to hear that was one of the
most famous.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Well famous. It'll hit us. We'll write to you everybody
if you yeah, yes, But it was again the fact
of these important interactions of people. The importance again of
communication are as important today as they were twenty five
(48:38):
hundred years ago. And sometimes it's amazing that as primitive
as we might have been. But if someone was to
say to you again a part of conversations that God
will hung up on what's right and what's wrong instead
of saying, would you please include what works you know?
Would you think about that? Also? It's an interesting concept.
(49:00):
But I've had caregivers on my show. You know that
there were thirteen million, give or take a few caregivers
Sanders generation, people taking care of their parents and their children,
both financially and again nor medically. So again we get
back to, you know, my friends with the senior citizens
(49:21):
and the baby boomers, the idea of community. Many of
these old cultures, they stress, I'll tell you who should
be taking care of your children. They're the grandparents who
have the wisdom. They're not the parents who were all
of a sudden, Their parents are twenty two years old
and they haven't grown up yet themselves. So you know, again,
(49:42):
when you talk about some of these ancient themes, people
lived in clusters they didn't know from big cities and
where you didn't know who's living next door to you
or whatever. So but I have confidence in three to
five generations from now, Michelle, I think it's going to
take that law.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
That's why we couldn't accept people who many times are
talking about some of these kinds of theories they want
to get into government, and people don't want to hear
about it because they think they're too spiritual in one
way or the other. So I include that world a
big time when we're talking the top of sports and
(50:21):
athletics again and again that you know mindfulness. Can you
forget that last shot you hit in golf when you
were a pro and you're going to the next hole,
Can you be in the moment you could train for it?
And that's surprise on the people.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
There's a great saying that the past is a canceled check,
the present, the future is a promissory note, and the
present is a gift, which is why it's called the present.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
And yeah, you guys, you were said and done. That
is what we have to get. There are methods to
train those systems for you, your parents, your children in
order to pay attention even if somebody's saying, you know,
sit by yourself ten minutes a day, just relax and
try to tone down. I had visualization with my young
(51:15):
figure skaters twenty five years ago, and the sports world
thought it was voodoo.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Well remember remember those books, uh, The Inner Golf and
the Inner Tennis and Galway Kimothy God.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Doctor Jim Viory Mind Golf, Mind God is the name
of his book. Exactly. Golf was way ahead in the
area of sports psychology when it came. You know, one
of my guests, and ironically his last name is Callaway,
Paul Calloway, so he's not Calloway golf, but Paul Calloway
is a physical therapist, mental trainer who was the first
(51:49):
physical therapist on the golf wagon with the Jack Nicholases
and the Arnold Palmers and whatever. And again, none of
these golfers were people who did strengthen it. They played
more golf. And these are the kinds of educations that
made a huge difference. And the mental thing you just said,
And again, where can you be in the present? You
(52:11):
know a guide to Hey you, I'll tell you who
tried to teach tiger woods. That was Paul Callaway. Tiger
Woods came by the Western Tournament every year when he
was a kid, and Calloway would say to him, again,
you know, don't run sprints with weighted vests and trying
to be a navy seal. You're gonna get hurt. And
he wouldn't listen to us, and he wanted to be
(52:34):
a navy seal and lift weights and get all involved.
And it was one problem after another. He ended up
with his back and his knees, et cetera. And it's
an education again. You see a golf of the guy six'.
Five everybody hits the ball three hundred and fifty. Yards
you know every place kicker now k kicks fifty. Yards
(52:55):
we never saw. That so all and again these athletic
abilities H so again remember, everybody strengthen your feet and
angles and work.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Balance that's. Wonderful that's a good way of rus to,
end because UH i elude.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
It i'm not saying be a. Maniac learn how to
use rubber, bands learn how to balance like on the.
Bosu you know what's called the look up sand Dune
stepper's magical where simulates being on the. Sand strength in the.
Gigitos i'll leave it with. This have you ever heard
the term Vn, clyburne the famous. Pianist, yeah that was
(53:31):
guy to. Thing try strengthen your. Feet are we ending
it on that?
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Note?
Speaker 2 (53:35):
WELL i want to end on a high.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Note so what would you want to share with the.
AUDIENCE i obviously just shared some of your, wisdom but
what what would be the one the one pearl of
wisdom that you would, SAY i have to let everybody here.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Know include the new medicine think about?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
It which is one really functional? Medicine, yes it is functional.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Medicine the term didn't. Exist, okay now it exists because
the people looking for. Causes what about? That including it smart?
Again so include your own personal. History, yeah. Betan if
you want to start a new, activity get your body
you ready for, it including including your rubber, body, hand,
wrist st. Elbow you want to play a pick a
(54:20):
ball and including again and your son or daughter was playing,
sports pay big attention to including go to a physical therapy.
Group learn a home program that includes foot ankle. Balance
you'll be two steps. Quicker pay attention to orthotics if
you've got foot ankle lower extremity, history especially if you're
(54:44):
a female and you've got knee, problems.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
And and you've went by eels like most of the
WOMEN i, know.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
The WOMEN i, see we have what's called the dress,
orthodic which is a device that could be used in low, heels, boots.
Flats every go to The Sports doctor radio dot. Com
you'll find out whatever you want to pay attention to
and we'll be glad to come back in the. Future,
again we like to d Sports doctors and segments where
(55:15):
people have very important. Audiences we're all trying to get
the word out and again about the three things we talked, about, awareness,
education taking. Action so it's been. Fun, Michelle, well there it.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Is the three a's all, right, Well, aea, awareness education and.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Action absolutely, yes and Again michelle was a guesst done by.
Show check her.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Out, yeah well you've been great and, doctor will you,
KNOW i think everybody wants to after this show is
going to want to talk to you because there isn't
a PERSON i know that doesn't want to be better
at whatever they. Do there's very few people that are
not at least have some competitive.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Spirit AND i got not for you WHEN i showed
you the fun Book take a Sports. Parents the next
one's gonna be hashtag hey sports. Grandparents oh cook people
with their, children their. Grandchildren, again youth sports is such
a big. Deal remember WHAT i said is an epidemic
of overuse so many times. Again The Sports doctors in
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is about having a plan that includes all these aspects
to stay out of trouble and enhance. Performance and that's
what we're all.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
About get your book On. Amazon is that what you're?
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Saying, yes they can sports a hairshtake A sports Back
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ank You. Michelle all, right.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Well you have a wonderful, weekend and thank you so
much for taking a good hour with us today and
sharing your pearls of wisdom.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
And The Sports doctors. In how CAN i help?
Speaker 1 (56:57):
You, yeah forty forty four years of, THAT i mean,
there you can't argue the longevity and. Expertise, alright take,
care
Speaker 3 (57:13):
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Everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. Today,
I'm traveling and I'm in a little different spot and
I'm hoping all the production will go smoothly as we
have an incredible production person named Tony Sweet who's I've
been with for six years now, so hopefully he's going
to be able to take this away. It should with
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zoom over wherever you are, So thank you, Tony, and
I want to welcome my guest today, doctor Bob Wile,
who's just one of the most incredible people. You're gonna
love hearing from him. He's he I was on his show.
He has a radio show on BBS Radio One Place
(00:52):
and also UK Health Radio called The Sports Doctor, and well, uh,
he's gonna tell you all about what he does. He's
a pedietress, so this is an area of the medical
field that we haven't really covered, so we're gonna hear
about that as it relates to your feet, as they
relate to your health and of course your athletic ability.
(01:17):
So welcome doctor Wilde.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hey, Michelle, it's great the trade radio shows with you.
The show which is a guest of mine just a
couple of weeks ago on the sports doctor again when
you're talking anything ageless or timeless. So again I could
start right out by singing the song the footbones connected
to the ankle, bones, connected to the nebone. So many
postal problems are foot related. Whether it's someone who's a
(01:44):
senior and we're trying to prevent falling, it's one of
my famous figure skaters maybe doing a triple or a
quad jump and trying to land, you know, with six
seven times their way. So the world of sports for
dietary is one that incorporates all these air Where is
my specialty is youth sports, yeah, and seniors and I
(02:05):
you know, superstars to Grandma's Michelle.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I love that and you know, and that's great, and
you know, just a little bit about you before we
start into all your wonderful activities and focus in your
medical career and pedetary but also of course and pedietry
as it relates to sports. So just tell us a
(02:28):
little bit more about your journey. How did you get
forty plus forty five years as a radio host and
what is it that's made you so passionate that you've stuck.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
With it For the Adventures of Live The Adventures of
Live Radio Oh wow, the guest is missing, they got
the wrong time zone, et cetera, et cetera. I was
very fortunate in the late seventies to meet the late
great sports trainer Bob Geide Yeah in glenn Ellen, Illinois
sports Fitness Institute with his wife at the time. Was
(03:01):
a champion weightlifter and osteopathic position and Bob was the
guy that the Jimmy Connors and the Walter Payton's and
the John mcenrose and the kill Buckner's and the superstars
and everybody in between. He was a strength and conditioning
coach of the Olympic volleyball team, and Bob had a
tremendous connection with the role of the foot. He'd say,
(03:24):
I want the athlete's feet to be like a cat,
where they're almost on the beach and they're working all
these areas, because whether you're coming down from a rebound
or again you're taking off for the first base, or
you're moving Hey, you're a pick a ball player, you know,
and all of a sudden you find out, wow, this
is physical. So I ended up being his pediatrist, and
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over those years I had the good fortune again to
add orthotics, whether it was to McEnroe. Tracy Austin was
one of my great You know, now the Wimbledon is
going on and where we're all excited, But I just
am celebrating the fifteenth year of the young boy from Illinois,
(04:08):
Evan Lysachek, who was nine and a half years old
when I put orthodox in his cigy skates. It's one
of my real specialties. And maybe twelve thirteen years later
he was the Olympic gold medalist, hosting Dancing with the Celebrities, etc.
So the challenges of youth sports, Michelle, whether you are
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a parent, you're a coach, and you have a talented
young son and a daughter, you know what the pressure
is like, Mom, I got to play. My knees are
killing me, et cetera, et cetera. So I got involved
on the radio side because guy who was involved vocality
with the Bears, he was seeing Gary Fan sick and
some of the Mike Ditka, he's the Mike Ditka. And
(04:54):
I then joined the College of do Page and the
famous w k DC blues jazz station and they had
specialty shows and I think the Sports Doctor came on
after the Lawnmower show. I'm not sure. For show I
have to look it up, but I did twenty years
there and I've probably had over one thousand guests in
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every area you could think of. Again from the I
had a Taoist on two months ago talking about the
three thousand year old rules that some of them make
as much sense today as they do yesterday. I had
on a neuro scientist talking about hand eye coordination. He
(05:38):
worked with the elite fighters, et cetera. So that's been
the journey that I have been on, and I get
a chance again to share with my audiences all these topics,
you know, whether it's the world of youth sports, whether
it's you know, the world of the eighty year old.
(05:58):
You want to keep walking, you want to beat ageless,
don't you.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well that's what we're all about. Yes, what's changed in
the forty four years forty five years?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What awareness? And I'm in a big part of it.
I'll take some crash haha. Or the awareness, whether it's
the importance of kids still having fun in youth sports,
whether it's the importance or are you in the right
shoe for your foot mechanics? Hey here, you're a dancer
in two inch heels. Let's talk about that. It was
(06:32):
one of my famous articles Women and High Heels. So
the awareness of what we're talking about again, whether it's
children having a good time. We're all aware of the
over zealous yelling parent on the sidelines in youth sports.
We're also aware over the years with gymnastics, the abusive medicine,
(06:53):
and some of these other things that have gone on.
My book hash tag Case Sports Parents. I co authored
it with a famous volleyballer, Sharky's Artman, who's had a
radio show feed Ears. So awareness of whatever we're talking
(07:14):
about education again, whether I'm dealing with the world of
coaching or the world of athletic training or parenting. And
you know, the new stuff in youth sports, whether it's
the paid paintingon athletes. Wow, what are they going to
do with that? And some of these other challenges. And
(07:36):
the reason I co authored the book, Michelle, is the epidemic.
Write that down everybody in capitals, the epidemic of youth
sports overuse injuries too much, so I call it the
Terrible twos. And again, if you're a young talented ten
twelve year old tennis player, figure skater, ballet, he's doing
(07:58):
it in ten days a week and we start running
into all sorts of problems. And Guida again was famous
for training and working with these young athletes, whatever their
sport was. And you know the two things you paid
the attention to do. You write this also down the
two exercises you want to include, whatever your level, age
(08:23):
or sport. Number one to strengthen your feet Anklesclude strengthening
your feet ankles the number one injury in sports, period
of your ankles forever and the abuse. So you want
to strengthen your feet and angles. And the number two
work balance, whether you're eighty years old and you're working
(08:46):
with standing on one foot at a time, or you
were in guide his clinic balancing on the mini trium
with whatever sport you were working with. And these areas
of awareness and education. We've had a lot of good news,
but I got news for you. If we're talking, for example, diabetes, obesity,
(09:11):
childhood obesity, all which I've featured for decades. We're treading water.
Is it a mess?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Except don't you feel do you feel that the semiglue
tides are offering Yeah, a rabbit cutting edge.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm excited. Let's not get over zealous here.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
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Jessica is one of the champions. She's also a champion weightlifter,
Jessica Biel, and she's We've talked about these challenges, whether
we're talking about CBD. I have champion in marijuana and
in sports for decades, far as whether it was a
pain reducer or it helped you sleep better, etcetera, etcetera.
(10:43):
So now the world of reginitive medicine, world of again
are my friend. For one hundred years. Bob Goldman, the
superstar and anti aging I did pedietry with his National
Academy of Sports Medison maybe forty years ago when he
was first starting, and he goes, you know, Bob gets
(11:03):
thousands of people together with the anti aging world for
decades and a big part of it, like you said
at Ageless Timeless, is this whole you know, peptide related,
biohacking related. I included in the mental game. I pay
huge attention on the sports doctor to the mental game.
(11:26):
Whether I have psychiatrists on his guests and have contributed
to my book. Is the great holistic sport psychiatrist adult
and child psychiatrist adopted Denitis McDermott, and she of course
uses his drugs when indicated, but she's huge in the
whole mental side, in the whole area. So regenitive medicine
(11:52):
we're excited about. I know that feel that you evolved
very involved with you know, the Best Doctor magazine and
your column. And you know, our friend Rob Fletcher, the
Hall of Fame martial artist and a few years on
my show, he'd paid big attention to that. We got
to get these girls and women learning how to protect themselves.
(12:14):
And I was a big fan of it, and now
he's doing a lot of great things. So we're both
on the same team in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You're an educator, Well, you want to make a difference
in the world that I was seeking the answers, and
many people yeah, good luck to buying their solutions to
their issues, particularly not with the t allopathic model, which
is really looking to cure symptoms and not the root cause. Well,
(12:43):
i'll tell you slacking the I talk about.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's a big deal again. You could write it down.
It's called the new medicine. It's very simple. The new
medicine is Number one, eats smarter. I'll leave it up
to you in the category. We could talk for twenty hours, right,
don't needing smarter? Number two is keep moving. Whether you
want to go to the gym, whether you like yoga,
whether you want to include tai chi, whether you want
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to do whatever we want to include. Keep moving. Number
three is a big one. We're talking about it. Reduce stress,
learn how to include rest and recovery, whether you want
to be a meditator, whether you want to talk mental training.
You know the late great sports psychologist, psychologist, doctor Jim
(13:29):
Vic grey back in the eighties, Michelle, he couldn't use
the words of psychology and he worked with the teams
he worked with the colleges Northwest, and the word psychologie,
what do you mean you think there's something wrong with me?
So that's the new medicine, and it includes a lot
of attention to where your world is, which is new
(13:49):
to many. It's new to medicine in a lot of ways.
Yet it's been around semi forever, right.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Well, if you look at ioveda and you know the
fire you made it, right, Yeah, And some of those
Asian or Eastern medicine they've been doing it for thousands
of year, and you know acupuncture.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
But you know, somehow or rather when it gets to
become mainstream in America, they we think it is brand new.
He's something we're discovered for.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
These do therapy. Bob Guida, he called it vibrational medicine
that he was doing. Yes, he was doing the same
kind of deep dege massage as my international guest friend colleague,
also a teammate of mine in the National Fitness Halo
fame doctor James Stockson, internationally known sports. This is very
(14:39):
close friend.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He's a very close friend of mine in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes, yes, the sports doctor.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Team doctors, Team doctors.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I get it right. He was on my show two
weeks ago, three weeks ago, he was on one hundred
years ago.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, he's a friend.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
This is interesting, Michelle. The titles of what was then
from many years called alternative medicine, I've had all of
them on my show. I had many of them contribute
to the book. Again, Eastern medicine, which was ti whether
it was tai Chi, Chinese medicine. We featured compared to
what we've been stuck with in a lot of ways,
(15:18):
which is again, it's an injection, it's a pill with surgery,
it's treating the symptoms, it's it works twelve hours. But
when we had that title alternative medicine, it was adversarial.
So I spent ten years on the show, given to
take a few weeks talking with all sorts of people,
and we said, let's call it complimentary medicine. That's good. Yes,
(15:42):
And now we're all on the same team. And I think, again,
these areas that you're very involved with, you know, again,
whether it's the highest level of sports performance, and you know,
my guest on the radio show yesterday doctr Vasquez. Whether
he's working with the top elite fighters in the world
or he's talking to business people, he's you know, he's
(16:05):
all about these leadership skills. That side of it also,
and you know, we try to pay a lot of
attention to communication for sports parents and again, the more
talented your son or daughter is. I just had a
feature article in the magazine that the supporter of MINE
(16:25):
l e R. Lower Extremity Review just celebrated the sixteenth
year and their great publisher, Rich Dubin a numerous numerous
guests of MINE. I've written numerous articles to him. One
was pickleball is Physical back in two twenty, where no
one knew how to spell pickleball. But the recent one
(16:46):
was the Prodigy Sports, and it was all about specialization
with these kids. When every doctor and parent and athletic
trainer wants and girls to play numerous sports, want them
to use different parts of the body, have different experiences,
and that's what we want them to do. And that's great.
(17:09):
What's your gymnast, right, or a ballerina or a figure skater,
and now even soccer and tennis, and my colleague down
there and the Panhandle baseball where the team doctor the Yankees.
Doctor Chris Amad has been a guest of my numerous times,
and he said, guess what, doctor Bob of Tommy John
(17:31):
surgery's on teenagers? Whoa where is all this overuse? It'my yes,
elbow surgery on young pitchers and baseball players. Like I
could say to you knee problems with all the young
volleyballers or uh the idea that you know, knee problems
(17:52):
and females are about five to one. So we want
to pay big attention to the fact that, yes, people
want to be as ageless and as timeless as they can.
I'm a big fan, but you got to be smart
and you got to pay attention to what your physical
(18:12):
or mental history is. You want to pay attention to
the fact that you're not playing a court sports with
running shoes on, for example, and that you are even
shit properly. Would it surprise you that over forty percent
of our population or not fit properly with is shoes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I know, and so okay, So as long as you
brought that up, dive a little deeper into pedetary and
how did you decide to be a doctor of pedetary refers,
what was it motivated you and made you so passionate.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yes, I wanted to stay away from Vietnam as much
as I could. And medical school, Yes, medical school was
one of the areas that I was always interested in,
and Navy dentistry and pedietry came on my radar as
something that was so broad based. Again, it could be
the best athletes in the world, or it could be
senior citizens, it could be children, it could be diabetics.
(19:13):
You know, the first profession to see diabetes many times
is the foot doctor because that's where the symptoms start.
So it was something that I found very, very interesting.
And again I was very fortunate. After I got out
and I started paying any attention, I ran into guide
and all of a sudden I got involved at the
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most exciting levels of these athletes and what they were facing.
And the idea, which is because I'll tell you something
which is interesting your listeners, many people will say, does
my son or daughter or do I need orthotics? And
for everybody listening to orthodics, our prescription inserts to properly
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align optimally the foot and ankle, because the foot and
ankle affect everything. Because you've had chronic back problems. It
might not be caused by your flat feet, but it
ain't helping you in any in any instances. So the
ID and then foot inserts now are a big deal.
If they're all over the internet. You can go to Walgreens.
(20:19):
There's a thousand inserts. They are not prescription devices.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Don't you don't recommend them?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh no, that's why I use one hundred percent. I
use them as something you could use for a week
or two until we get you into what's optimum. And
again even if we're not till you're not. They don't
have to be a superstar. You might be someone hey doctor,
well I run five days a week and my I
have shin splints. Or you know my big problem plant
(20:46):
a fastch it. It's the arch to the heel, common
common problem. So if you have, for example, inherited flat
feet mm hm, or you've inherited the opposite, this is
much less common. High origies. The high arches might be
connected to John McEnroe, and that's why he's quicker than
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everybody mechanically. So the idea again of paying attention to
what's been your history. You know, whether you were a
high school athlete, whether you're looking to get back into activity.
So pedietry was a great fit. And then I started
to learn not only about the surgical side, whether it
was the hammer toes and these other bunyans. You know,
(21:32):
women ask all the time, you know, surgically, I have
seen seventy five year old grandma. You know the enlarged
thick bump on the side of the big toe. The
big toe is the lever of your feet. I'm sure
I'll bet you fifty more of your listeners have heard
the terms pronation and supernation. Of course, they are normal
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motions of the fetnankles, right, and they have a few
courtant jobs. One of them is shock absorption. Every time
you land on your heel, you generating fifty percent of
you eight right once you bear weight, that stops. Now
you're pushing off. So there was all of his excitement.
And then in the late seventies I met Candy Brown
(22:17):
and she was very involved in it. She was a
figure skating coach, she was a former champion, and she said,
you know this young boy in your neighborhood, Glen Ellen,
This kid's flying all over the ice doing double and
triple bump jumps. He ended up being an Olympian, the
late great Angelo do Augostino and Candy was paying very
very big attention to you know, these young kids, are
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we getting them strong enough? And the answer was no way,
they were doing the activity. You know, I have ten
year olds. They do double jumps all day, five six
days a week. So the concept of the importance of
the feet and how they affect all these areas was very,
very exciting. Pedietry was getting included over the years in
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the Olympics. It was getting you know, part of the team.
The orthopedic surgeon, the chiropractic is tissue therapist, and again
Bob Guider was very famous for vibrational therapy. Think of
a massage, think of a deep massage gun, think of
it being very therapeutic for whatever the injury happens to be.
And Stocks and also manufacture is his own doctor, teen
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doctors again deep you know stocks and flies all over
the world to see afflets. He worked with the Wiggles
to be talked about that he got the guy.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
From here the whole shore.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Remember the Wiggles, right everybody? My kids loved them.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, well I got he actually got me tickets from
my nephews. For there was Wiggles were going to be
in Atlanta and I had some family members there, so
he was able to get them to get backstage and
meet them, and it was it was pretty exciting for
the I never I think I became the favorite aunt
at that moment in time because of my ability to
(24:05):
get them into that concert. But yeah, the Thumper is
one of his he originally developed and then he's got
you know, more advanced models. Now, yes, the besides but
but you know today PEMF post electron electric magnetic therapy
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that's become the darling of the sports world for or
even just for weaken more.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I was into magnets in the nineties. We were even
using stationary magnets. I still find if someone says, I
have a therapeutic magnet patch, will it help stimulate healing?
The answer is almost always it's not magic. But we've
had great success. We use magnetic insults for years. I
put them on top of orthotics. You know, in America
(24:53):
with the hype and the whole thing with the you know,
it was just a little much in a lot of ways.
But you know, one of my famous guests, uh Gary Reinold,
who wrote the famous book.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I see he's going to be on my podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Answered tell him, tell him how he's been.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I'm not sure Dunn power is connecting us right now, Rober.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yes, yes, he was in the in the crosshairs of
the whole sports world because he was saying ice it's fake. Yeah,
all for numbing.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Geida was when Guida said stretching could be hamful, We're
overdoing it, and both of them. I used to laugh
at both of them that people were out to uh
to get you, man, because you're going against religion. But
he also worked with every professional team, and he worked
with every Olympic team Gary Reinold, and he was always
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involved with stimulating the areas surrounding the injured joint. So
if your ankle was injured, he have you working your toes,
bending your knees. And he represented one of the countries
leading electromagnetic therapeutic to pieces for as long as I
know them, and it isn't a big deal. And I
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still find ultrasound, high speed ultrasound, it's been around forever
one of the most successful ways to calm down inflammation
and injury. And we've we've played with them all. One
of my pediatary colleagues, doctor Ben Purrow in Virginia very
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big into again you know, shock therapy also very therapeutic
when you're dealing with dancers or show members or athletes
who are saying, you know, Michelle, I got to get
better yesterday. What can you do for me? You know,
good luck to you. But all of these things hands on.
(26:48):
This is why I had you know, sports Fitness Institute
was owned by a chiropractor who hired guide and.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Chiropractic was always ahead of whether it was exercise or
diet and non drugs well.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And if I've had one chiropractor on my show over
whatever the heck it is, I've had fifty.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I don't compare the chiropractic to the osteopath, which I've always.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Rarey Christian, great question. The osteopath is an MD with
chiropractic skills. So doctors that I have on from the
Olympic work Tony Liazzo, he's been a he's a local doc.
He's been one hundred times. Uh. The one of the
orthopedics from Jersey, doctor Sean McMillan. The do os A
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do O is every much an MD in their specialty,
whether it's orthopedics, whether it's ophthalmology, whether it's foot, ankle,
et cetera, et cetera. The difference is and that's why
we had one on the bears since the beginning. The
hand is on now when it comes to adjustment and manipulation.
And if you want us with hairs between the DOO
(28:01):
and the orthopedy and the chiropractor. But here's what's funny,
and I tell my friends who are team doctors orthopedis
both the chiropractor highly skilled and the DOO highly skilled,
are better analysts in so many ways than the orthopedist.
The orthopedist is a surgeon. He ain't somebody who's picking
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up that the guy's guide an eighth and shortage and
again leg shortage and all of these things. So this
is why the chiropractor who would sing the song and
the do hip bones connected to the backbones, to the
knee bone, and I'm in the background singing the foot
bones connected to the ankle bone, and then we kneed
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in the middle. So people need to understand is nothing
negative medically about the do O in their specialty. They
are the same as the MD. And that's always been
a hassle in one way, or another, and still to
this day you have that question. I'm glad you brought
it up.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So all the athletes that you've interviewed and are you've
known over the years, who would you if you were
doing the Academy Award or an Olympic level of the
best of the who is Who's that?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Jani Noah was the great Frenchman who won the French
Open and became so myth famous that he had a
move to New York the eighties. And because he was
the French champion in tennis in Roland Garros and he
became a superstar, then he became a superstar in music.
His son Jaquin became a great player for the Chicago Bulls.
(29:42):
But of all the athletes we saw, as well as
some of the volleyballers and the international players, all are
a Gary Fencik, a defensive back with the Chicago Bears,
was another one, as again was McEnroe, who was quicker
(30:02):
on his feet than so many others. But Yannick was
also maybe even more limber athletic. And when we think
back again, you know, if you'd think you think McEnroe
is an example, McEnroe unzipped his racket was the best
in the world. He said, I out got it trained.
Tracy Austin had pretty bracelets. Both of them borrowed my
(30:26):
car when they were here to train a guy at
one time or another. My kids loved both of them.
They weren't best friends, but they spent a lot. Tracy
Austin spent the whole summer trying to come back and
win the US Open in the nineteen eighties. But she
wasn't an athlete when Martina. Either was Chris Everett. They
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all learned, and Guida was one of the ones who
said to these tennis players, you don't understand. You gotta
be one of the best athletes, not just tennis players.
Now if you're a tennis and everybody I'm a big.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Man and a former, or I'm not a former, she'll play.
But tennis is one of my favorite sports.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Big time. You got to you gotta tell Okay two
weeks ago, you know about the unbelievable final, and they've
played tomorrow in the semifinals. Djokovic of course is playing center.
But al Kraz and Sinner five hours, twenty nine minutes. Now,
I have a contest on the Sports Doctor once to
twice a year have done fears. It's a fun contest.
(31:31):
And it's exactly what she.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Ask, Well, did you hear about the Women's Wimbledon that
the American upstair?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I watched it, Yes, you have to do.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
What did you think of her as well?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
On is a headcase? The number one player in the world, Sarahtoma. Yes,
he's great a player as she is. She's handled it.
She didn't lose it mentally, but she had a chance.
And she again somehow this young American who's been in
this crazy experience, she stepped away from the game for
a while. You know, people said, where are the Americans now?
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They're all over the place. So this kid and I
watched her interview at the mental game, and you know,
and talking about that moment again the word mindfulness, which
in sports medicine is such a big deal. Medicine didn't
know how to spell mindfulness twenty years ago. You know
what it means.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
That's a very interesting shape.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Me in the moment. Yeah, and you is the that
use you're on the foul line show. Oh you're serving
for the match. You've never been there before, and you
can't see straight. You're you're so nervous, so this young
American beating the number one player in the world again,
who has got some challenges, keeping her temper under control
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and all of these things. And if you're a player,
you understand. The great Lou Vickery who pitched for the
Yankees and Cardinals in the in the sixties. And I'm
bringing them up because he's a eighties champion tennis doubles champion,
and he had a podcast, which is What's Your Racket?
(33:08):
And I would show up the sports doctors in But
Lou had a show on the pan Handle for years
called Lou in the Morning. He's a very successful businessman.
He's written twenty five books. But his big point that
I would be on we were talking overus with these kids,
with these baseball players playing, you know, ten days a week,
but in the world of tennis, he was paying such
(33:30):
attention again to whether it was sportsmanship on the left.
You know, John McEnroe, why do you okay? You know
all that screaming and ranting and raving. When I first
met John McEnroe, he was on the phone with his
father wearing a torn top coat. He was like twenty
years old. He came in to see guy. There we
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were seeing him. He's arguing with his father on the
phone about who knows what the heck it was. But
you know, the mental game and the the idea that
you know, senior tennis is a big deal. So you
might want lou Vickery on as a guest sometime because
he's an eighties champion and what does it take to
(34:12):
still be playing when you're eighty years old? We talk
about his top spin backhand.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Well, we have you mentioned when we spoke earlier about
Rod Labor and all of them, Yes, well in that
whole generation, right of Jimmy Connor was a little later,
but they still they all still play, right.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Oh yeah. None of them lifted weights and nobody paid.
They didn't pay big attention to nutrition as much, and
they were eighty five pounds. Now you're looking at these
guys routine with this kid's six eight, this other kid,
and it's just so the evolution, including the female athlete,
you would Tracy Austin said, you know, I never lifted
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weights to train. That that's a guy that got her
head into which is you better be an athlete if
you want to compete with Martina. And Chris Evertt learned
the same thing and of course today it's it's a
whole new world and it includes that is that player
in the best you know, how much have they been
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evaluated for the ankle? How much are they strengthening and training?
It's an exciting world.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Why do you think the authors have gotten so much tolerance?
What's what's contributed to that?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Maybe they're taking your peptides. I think overall, whatever the
evolution is, there's a tremendous evolution in the training of
these kids. How much that invigorates growth. It's a great question,
but with a lot of attention. That's why I have
sports nutritionists contributed to my book, and as people I
(35:53):
talk to all the time. Are d k another great
guests field Katie Davis a sports nutritionist, or what's a pharmacist?
That whole world about women and their menstrual cycles and
nutrition and hormones and all of these things that became
such a big deal. So all these things were added
(36:13):
to the mix. Now, if we had a time machine,
we could go back twenty years, and let's go back
and let's say that none of these things were added.
No one ever became a better athlete, no one paid
big attention. You know, they still had a stake. Nobody
paid attention to rest and recovery, proper sleep huge yesterday,
(36:36):
that's all they talked about with neuroscience. Would they be
the same size? Great question. I think the world of
calories and nutrition has made a huge different. I mean,
you see a six for eight shortstop, what are you crazy?
You see a six fort eleve and ten basketball shooting.
Look at women's the WNBA athletes. Here's a funny story.
(37:00):
It's only thirty seconds. Bob Guide and I are walking
into a sports softball facility again it's the eighties. We're
listening to a cracker that we're working with both men's
and women's fast pitched teams with seeing some of these kids.
We're listening to the crack of the bat which could
like take your hat off. Whoever was hitting in the
(37:21):
aisle you know next to us that we're walking in,
and he was mentioning the name with three guys in
a row. He walked in. Its two of the girls
who were shortstops, and guy just sits down. He says,
these girl athletes are just unbelievable in their growth as athletes.
You know when you were a kid, maybe he played
pomp pops if you had sports to play in many ways,
(37:44):
So it's a great science, you know, and people again
like whether it's the whole world with Goldman, the whole
world with people like Stocks and my organization, the next
National Fitness Hall of Fame, Jack Laley. We just had
a member of our National Fitness Hall of Fame two
weeks ago, competed as a senior sixty four years old
(38:08):
on the American Ninja. I love yeah. Man. He tried
his best, and the fact that training he was doing,
you wouldn't believe it. Wouldn't believe it. He was on
TV two weeks ago. He's coming back, try to play.
So the evolution and I think the things that you
do and have talked about, I'm sure many of your
(38:29):
guests when you're talking top doctors. Yes, top doctors are
still engorged with the regular doctors that we're all used to,
and our healthcare system stinks in so many ways. It's
so many.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Hopefully, hopefully there's going to be changes with them.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I have experts on all the time, every level, whether
it's the financial level, whether it's the teaching level, whether
it's the learning level. You know, I have mayors on
I have others on. There's a lot of attention and awareness,
you know. But one time, twenty five years ago, I
wanted to get all schools locally to include walking in
(39:11):
the curriculum. And the politics that I ran into.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Really, ha, Yes, why was that? Why walking it steel safe?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
And can they be inside? And what if they're in
a neighborhood and what if there's a problem and changing
the curriculum and I said, leave me alone already. But
we talked about it, and it is being included in
a lot of ways. You know, you have more anxiety
teenagers than ever. And my holistic psychiatris said, it's the
internet world and it's the pressure. But she likes and
(39:45):
this is a big point because I never included it.
We all know the hassles of the internet and screens
on our kids and us. She said, no, we have
to look at it as entertainment and as a side show.
So I allow my children, even if they're athletes, to
accept that, yes they're on the phone all the time,
but they're using it as some sort of escape from
(40:10):
their parents or their coaches. And she's had great success
with that when you think about it, But this is
the what's piling on all of us. Now, if you
add the pandemic to the mix, and I'll throw in
politics without defining it to the mix where you know,
(40:32):
people are burning the candle on twelve ends, so you know,
we want to be part of the educational world in
a pedietry again by itself, and they roll over foot
and everything that brings into I have a colleague. He's
the founder of an organization called LEAP l EAP Lower
Extremity Amputation Prevention. Huge problem in diabetes. Of course, you
(40:59):
know they had a name type two diabetes because of
how many children we were seeing. So we've adult on set.
This is a gigantic problem. A lot of it is diet,
a lot of it is where is again the PE
program for kids. So with all the progress we're making
that I'm bragging to you about, we're treading water and
(41:24):
we need lots of attention of awareness again, whether it's
the magazines, Gosh, it's hard to find an actual magazine
is Day and Age because you know, everything is like virtual.
But those are the combinations that I add to the
(41:44):
realm of the sports doctor. I'm part of an organization
called the Publicity Summit, originally they were across the street
from Madison Square Garden Bradley Communications. We'd bring together meet
the media, so we would be as part of the media.
Maybe you would be speed dated by an author or
(42:06):
a doctor, or an entrepreneur or an editor on why
they might be on your show. And this has exploded
in a talent pool that really really has avased me
in so many areas. And you get in mental recovery,
these kinds of challenges anxiety awareness. It's the biggest topic
(42:26):
in our country is mental health.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, so, Bob, if you could have a perfect world,
if you look as you defined it, what would that
look like.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
It's the new medicine again, awareness of the new medicine.
It is a healthcare system that takes care of all
of us whatever we got to figure out. Having the
anxiety that you can go bankrupt or your parents could
go bankrupt. Is so being covered for that without that worry.
(42:59):
Every advances country in the world. The again, the idea
that you would be again including the fact of the
importance of reducing stress of rest and recovery both physically
and mentally, and paying big attention to that. So again,
(43:19):
where we would have a situation where you would have
much more cooperation somehow, even spiritually. The best athletes in
the world today include spirituality and not hung up on religion.
Albani's religion, you know, good luck to you. Hey, it's
more adversary than anything else. But spiritually it is a
(43:42):
higher power. All of these other things are a tremendous weapon,
whether it's with you know, trying to live one day
to the other. So I would again include the awareness
and the reduction of pressure and sharing. You know, if
we could just buy into in the perfect world again.
I have very famous colleagues series of books called Conversations
(44:04):
with God by Neil Donald Walsh. I don't know if
you've ever heard of that. They're profound, Yeah, and they
are about three principles of all of it. Nine books,
three principles, perfect world, having fun with it. They're very simple.
Think about it. Number one, we're all one. Somehow can
you get off killing each other? Somehow can you get
(44:28):
off this that you don't know how to get along?
Number two, there's enough, whether it's food, whether it's money,
whether it's sunshine, Whether there's enough if we could somehow
not have a thousand children to day dying of hunger,
because we don't know how to hell to share it.
We don't know how to number them. Yes, and number
(44:48):
three is there's nothing we have to do. Again, this
is again part of the conversations with God thinking, which
is everybody's going to heaven. There's no such thing as dead.
Get off it already. There's not a vengeful of you know, God,
who's after us. We're born in sin. It's all a
lot of baloney. We have to have a different definition
(45:10):
of what that means to us. Again, number one, we're
all on. Number two, there's enough everybody. And number three,
you know, don't don't shoot me because you got to
rob me. Go to you know what I mean. I
legalize drugs tomorrow, I would require I would take the
money out of it. You're out of business cartel. If
you want, you want heroin, go to a clinic. We'll
(45:33):
pay attention to it. You can get a clean needle,
you'll get therapy if you need so. That would be
the perfect world. If somehow, according to conversations with God,
we are primitive. We don't know how to stop killing
each other. So again, at the top level, you want
to throw in sports medicine. We're trying to have fun.
(45:53):
We're trying to include being as ageless and as timeless
as we can. You know, eighties, the new sixty sixty,
he's a new fifty that we want to pay big
attention to the physical side. What's your medical history? Pay
attention and again number two, which is to learn how
to at least include that you are including movement and
(46:16):
that you are paying attention to the mental game. And
then we do the best we can. You know, then
I'll be a flip a coin, raise a glass.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well you you said in the very beginning, you know
what I call the five spokes of the wheel when
we talk about nutrition and stress management and movement, and
but there was one that you I wanted to add
in there that I think is very much evident in
the Blue zones where Dan Butner, you know, has written
(46:47):
his book and there's so much research now on these
centenarians and why are they what they are? Well, those
you know, those few principles you've already mentioned, but then
they are always add community connection.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
So and tennis was number one, you know, of all
sports the people if it's an amazing figured they would
come up with these stats. But the sport that allows
the longest longevity is tennis. It's racket sports where you
have maybe a teammate, you have socialization, you know, you
have all these areas that become important. And I think
(47:26):
I'm glad you've added that because it's such a main component.
But again, these people have learned to live off the
land nutritionally, They've learned they needed to walk to wherever
they were going. They included being on real surfaces again,
where you were barefoot. In a lot of ways, we
need to look back and include those principles.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Well, of course, the ancient wisdom very often is neglected,
and yet it's timeless. Yeah, we talk about angels and timeless.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
That's why I had to be fust on from the
from the Netherlans, the actly we were talking about, you
know Laotsu who wrote you know again the famous famous
book Timeless and you know, twenty five hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Whatever the heck it was right and the what was
the name of that book? How could that escape me?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I don't know to hear that was one of the
most famous.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Well famous. It'll hit us. We'll write to you everybody
if you yeah, yes, But it was again the fact
of these important interactions of people. The importance again of
communication are as important today as they were twenty five
(48:38):
hundred years ago. And sometimes it's amazing that as primitive
as we might have been. But if someone was to
say to you again a part of conversations that God
will hung up on what's right and what's wrong instead
of saying, would you please include what works you know?
Would you think about that? Also? It's an interesting concept.
(49:00):
But I've had caregivers on my show. You know that
there were thirteen million, give or take a few caregivers
Sanders generation, people taking care of their parents and their children,
both financially and again nor medically. So again we get
back to, you know, my friends with the senior citizens
(49:21):
and the baby boomers, the idea of community. Many of
these old cultures, they stress, I'll tell you who should
be taking care of your children. They're the grandparents who
have the wisdom. They're not the parents who were all
of a sudden, Their parents are twenty two years old
and they haven't grown up yet themselves. So you know, again,
(49:42):
when you talk about some of these ancient themes, people
lived in clusters they didn't know from big cities and
where you didn't know who's living next door to you
or whatever. So but I have confidence in three to
five generations from now, Michelle, I think it's going to
take that law.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
That's why we couldn't accept people who many times are
talking about some of these kinds of theories they want
to get into government, and people don't want to hear
about it because they think they're too spiritual in one
way or the other. So I include that world a
big time when we're talking the top of sports and
(50:21):
athletics again and again that you know mindfulness. Can you
forget that last shot you hit in golf when you
were a pro and you're going to the next hole,
Can you be in the moment you could train for it?
And that's surprise on the people.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
There's a great saying that the past is a canceled check,
the present, the future is a promissory note, and the
present is a gift, which is why it's called the present.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
And yeah, you guys, you were said and done. That
is what we have to get. There are methods to
train those systems for you, your parents, your children in
order to pay attention even if somebody's saying, you know,
sit by yourself ten minutes a day, just relax and
try to tone down. I had visualization with my young
(51:15):
figure skaters twenty five years ago, and the sports world
thought it was voodoo.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Well remember remember those books, uh, The Inner Golf and
the Inner Tennis and Galway Kimothy God.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Doctor Jim Viory Mind Golf, Mind God is the name
of his book. Exactly. Golf was way ahead in the
area of sports psychology when it came. You know, one
of my guests, and ironically his last name is Callaway,
Paul Calloway, so he's not Calloway golf, but Paul Calloway
is a physical therapist, mental trainer who was the first
(51:49):
physical therapist on the golf wagon with the Jack Nicholases
and the Arnold Palmers and whatever. And again, none of
these golfers were people who did strengthen it. They played
more golf. And these are the kinds of educations that
made a huge difference. And the mental thing you just said,
And again, where can you be in the present? You
(52:11):
know a guide to Hey you, I'll tell you who
tried to teach tiger woods. That was Paul Callaway. Tiger
Woods came by the Western Tournament every year when he
was a kid, and Calloway would say to him, again,
you know, don't run sprints with weighted vests and trying
to be a navy seal. You're gonna get hurt. And
he wouldn't listen to us, and he wanted to be
(52:34):
a navy seal and lift weights and get all involved.
And it was one problem after another. He ended up
with his back and his knees, et cetera. And it's
an education again. You see a golf of the guy six'.
Five everybody hits the ball three hundred and fifty. Yards
you know every place kicker now k kicks fifty. Yards
(52:55):
we never saw. That so all and again these athletic
abilities H so again remember, everybody strengthen your feet and
angles and work.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Balance that's. Wonderful that's a good way of rus to,
end because UH i elude.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
It i'm not saying be a. Maniac learn how to
use rubber, bands learn how to balance like on the.
Bosu you know what's called the look up sand Dune
stepper's magical where simulates being on the. Sand strength in the.
Gigitos i'll leave it with. This have you ever heard
the term Vn, clyburne the famous. Pianist, yeah that was
(53:31):
guy to. Thing try strengthen your. Feet are we ending
it on that?
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Note?
Speaker 2 (53:35):
WELL i want to end on a high.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Note so what would you want to share with the.
AUDIENCE i obviously just shared some of your, wisdom but
what what would be the one the one pearl of
wisdom that you would, SAY i have to let everybody here.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Know include the new medicine think about?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
It which is one really functional? Medicine, yes it is functional.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Medicine the term didn't. Exist, okay now it exists because
the people looking for. Causes what about? That including it smart?
Again so include your own personal. History, yeah. Betan if
you want to start a new, activity get your body
you ready for, it including including your rubber, body, hand,
wrist st. Elbow you want to play a pick a
(54:20):
ball and including again and your son or daughter was playing,
sports pay big attention to including go to a physical therapy.
Group learn a home program that includes foot ankle. Balance
you'll be two steps. Quicker pay attention to orthotics if
you've got foot ankle lower extremity, history especially if you're
(54:44):
a female and you've got knee, problems.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
And and you've went by eels like most of the
WOMEN i, know.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
The WOMEN i, see we have what's called the dress,
orthodic which is a device that could be used in low, heels, boots.
Flats every go to The Sports doctor radio dot. Com
you'll find out whatever you want to pay attention to
and we'll be glad to come back in the. Future,
again we like to d Sports doctors and segments where
(55:15):
people have very important. Audiences we're all trying to get
the word out and again about the three things we talked, about, awareness,
education taking. Action so it's been. Fun, Michelle, well there it.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Is the three a's all, right, Well, aea, awareness education and.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Action absolutely, yes and Again michelle was a guesst done by.
Show check her.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Out, yeah well you've been great and, doctor will you,
KNOW i think everybody wants to after this show is
going to want to talk to you because there isn't
a PERSON i know that doesn't want to be better
at whatever they. Do there's very few people that are
not at least have some competitive.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Spirit AND i got not for you WHEN i showed
you the fun Book take a Sports. Parents the next
one's gonna be hashtag hey sports. Grandparents oh cook people
with their, children their. Grandchildren, again youth sports is such
a big. Deal remember WHAT i said is an epidemic
of overuse so many times. Again The Sports doctors in
(56:17):
is about having a plan that includes all these aspects
to stay out of trouble and enhance. Performance and that's
what we're all.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
About get your book On. Amazon is that what you're?
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Saying, yes they can sports a hairshtake A sports Back
doctors still available On, Oka amazon and. Again then you
go to bbsradio dot Com Fluwen slash The Sports, doctor
and you can listen to the past. Show listen to
the one With. Michelle she was, Greaty you're a great
ank You. Michelle all, right.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Well you have a wonderful, weekend and thank you so
much for taking a good hour with us today and
sharing your pearls of wisdom.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
And The Sports doctors. In how CAN i help?
Speaker 1 (56:57):
You, yeah forty forty four years of, THAT i mean,
there you can't argue the longevity and. Expertise, alright take,
care
Speaker 3 (57:13):
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