Certifiably Happy with Elliott Robertson

What if you discovered how to be happy for NO reason? With life’s unpredictability and ups and downs, we often find ourselves caught up in the uncontrollable ebb and flow of circumstances that impact us. Meet Elliott Robertson, a Certified Happy for No Reason Workshop Leader, World Stage Intuitive and Spiritual Growth Coach who offers positive new perspectives for facing life’s many surprises.

A returning guest and author of the book, Say Yes to Life, Elliott Robertson previously joined us to share all the ways we can Say Yes to Life. In this power-hour of enlightYOUment, Robertson extends another invitation to release habits that interfere with heart-centered living, including the habit of dismissing, discounting, or postponing your heart’s desires. Robertson invites us to live in our sovereignty through releasing hold on negative beliefs about ourselves or others and highlights how this can serve as a gateway to cultivate new habits of holding unconditional love for ourselves and allow for a greater capacity to tap into the Inner Knower within each of us.

Not only does Robertson have Visions of a Joyful World – he wrote the book! In his latest book, Visions of a Joyful World, Robertson focuses on dwelling in the positive and setting our inner sails so they carry us to bright, positive directions. He’s on a mission to share with others practices that perpetuate living in high vibes and optimism.

As a World Stage Intuitive, he sheds positive perspectives regarding times of chaos and challenge that occur and invites us to celebrate what he calls “the not yet”. We discuss the challenges in the modern era for hearing our Inner Bell of Truth and talk about ways to tune into our intuitive frequency so we may benefit from the guidance it can offer.

At the end of the hour, it’s easy to see why Robertson beckons us to Say Yes to Life and have Visions of a Joyful World – as we are compelled to step into our own power, wisdom and knowing to live authentically from “the expansiveness of the heart.”

Elliott Robertson holds a Master’s Degree in Psychology and has designed coaching programs that empower people to live from their true self and tap into their wisdom, sovereignty and discernment. He has written devotionals for Daily Word magazine as well as articles for Science of Mind and Miracles Magazine. His latest book, Visions of a Joyful World, is being published in June of 2023. To reach out to Elliott Robertson and learn more about his Spiritual Growth Coaching, Certified Happy for No Reason Workshops, World Stage Intuitive work, or take advantage of his free pdf book offer shared in this episode, you can email him at [e-mail].

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Episode Transcript

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I used to think time was myenemy. My future wasn't looking good.
So worried about the things I couldn'tsee, I couldn't see the things I
could. I was aging fearfully,worrying my life away, when all along

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I should have been thankful for everyday. Finally made a friend of time.
Now you could say that I'm aginggratefully, Aging gratefully broadcasting across this

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amazing nation and spanning universe. You'relistening to Aging Gratefully. I'm your host,
gerontologist Holly Kelly, bringing you exceptionalguests and novel information to ensure you
age great, liveful, and embraceeach extraordinary day for the incredible gift it
is. We broadcast on all yourfavorite players, brought to you all over
the world. Welcome to Aging Gratefully, most amazing listeners. I hope you're

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doing wonderful today as we begin thispower hour of ENLiGHT You meant so happy
you're joining the show today. Imean really happy. It's not just a
word, it's not just an emptysentiment. I mean I am happy that
you choose to spend one of yourone hundred and sixty eight hours a week
taking the opportunity to discover new approachesto truly be in life and practice is

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towards living your best life. Now. Now that makes me smile. So
let's all strike our aging, gratefullysignature pose and get this grinfest started miles
across the miles smiling spandemic so niceand smiling makes us feel better instantly.
I know you can there. That'swhy I call it self care the charitable

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because when you wear a smile andshare your smile, you elevate the vibrations
of others around you, smile more, aging rebels, and surf that perpetuating
and self fulfilling wave of happiness.Today, I want to talk to you
about one of my favorite topics,you, but not just you, you
being happy. We're not always happy. We can get in a slump,

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a funk, a gunk and haveour grump on. Sometimes we don't even
know why, and sometimes we knowexactly why. When we know we're not
feeling our best and our attitude istotally awry and we have no idea why.
If we take some time, wecan probably figure it out. It

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may not be a specific incident orevent, It literally maybe circumstances, emotions,
perspectives, perceptions and surroundings. Doyou believe that energy can get you
off balance? I know it canfor me. Literally, if I walk
into a messy space or a disorganizedroom, I can feel my entire mood

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shift. It doesn't make me feelgood, it makes me anxious, and
I find messy space is unwelcoming.But if I walk into a tidy room,
I feel good and it is notjust noted, but appreciated and felt.
What about being around someone in abad mood has the energy of another
almost magnetize you towards the same feelings. What if I told you that you

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have the power to channel positive energyfor yourself. Yes, your smile is
definitely a gateway, but what ifyou could avoid all the negative energy trapdoors
and bask in the glory of positivityand feel good vibes. We have so
much happening in the world today.We can often be influenced by the doom
and gloom, chaos, and evenin fighting that could be more personal.

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But when these larger than life thingscast an emotional toll on us, it
becomes personal, doesn't it. TheCOVID pandemic, for example, was more
than a deadly virus responsible for takingmillions of lives. It also created fear
and dismay, It created divide,it created stress, and in all of
its heisting of our previous perceived normal, it also evolutionalized the way things could

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be done. This horrific event alsosurprisingly gave birth to some positive outcomes too.
There's so many outside forces that wehave no power over, and we're
often left to feel at the mercyof or even helpless. But what if

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you could become certifiable no, Iactually mean certify a belie happy. But
wait, there's more. What ifyou could become certifiably happy for no reason?
I mean, if we need reasonsto be happy, then our happy
meter would look like a roller coasterbecause there's always things around the band that

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are happiness robbers. But maybe partof the living experience means that we need
to grow through what we go through. So we'll make that this week's aging
Gratefully alphabet suit for the Psyche andour aging Gratefully show dedication will be to
no surprise. Here, the wordhappiness a noun, and what I want

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for each of you out there,it means the state of being happy.
Today's guest is a proprietor of justsuch work, leading certified Happy for No
Reason workshops. But he has aspecial knack, a gift if you will,
to move life's minutia out of theway to experience the best life has
to offer, to feel and beyour best in the process. I'm so

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excited to welcome back to the showreturning guest Elliott Robertson, who is a
spiritual coach, a certified Happiness workshopleader, a world stage intuitive, and
an author. He holds a master'sdegree in psychology and has designed coaching programs
that empower people to live from theirtrue self and tap into their wisdom,

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sovereignty, and discernment. He haswritten devotionals for Daily Word magazine, as
well as articles for Science of Mindand Miracles Magazine. His book, Visions
of a Joyful World is being publishedJune of twenty twenty three. It is
with great pleasure, so excited towelcome you back to the Aging Gratefully Show.
Elliott, Welcome to the show.Thank you so much, Holly,

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thanks for including me in your podcastseries. And I loved what you were
just saying about how the world canbe messy and stressful at the same time.
What I might be talking about alittle bit with you today is how
we can choose something different, somethingthat's not being a victim. There is

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a choice, and how we respondto what's going on in the world.
I so appreciate your highlighting that,yes, because we feel so powerless when
we feel like we don't have control. And so I love that we're going
to talk about this important narrative andthat kind of empowers us and it reduces
all of those other feelings of anxiousnessand fear and everything else. And I

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certainly I know that aging rebels loveto be empowered, and so I want
to start the hour together with youtelling us you discovered a new you that
you told me about, but Iwant you to tell us about that as
well as your intuitive gifts. Thankyou. It's really all one and the

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same. I suppose the intuitive giftscome in two different flavors. You might
say, there's sort of like theapple and the pair. Both of them
have the juice and the core ofthe middle, but they do have different
differences. So I have two varieties. One of them is the direct relationship
with my internowah, the direct knowingabout something and without saying anything about the

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specifics of what happened a number ofyears ago. I will give an example
to make it more easy to follow. But this kind of intuitive interning is
like for me, a number ofyears ago, a world stage event happened,
and I was in the office withmy secretary and we were both sort

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of witnessing you might say, theevent happening, or certainly aware of it.
And I said to her, whatcame to me. What came to
me in that moment was the onlypeople in the world who could have pulled
this off was the US government.And then the New York Times didn't really

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publish things that were congruent with that. But that's just one example of I
just had a knowing in that momentthat just came to me. Another example
would be much more recently. Iwas looking at a photograph in a newspaper
of a very famous politician. I'mnot going to be naming names or events

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today, and I just immediately knewas soon as I glanced at the photograph
that it wasn't her. And atthe time I was thinking, does she
have a look alike who is sometimespublished in the newspaper? And what ended
out happening was a few days laterquite a coincidence. I did learn a

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little bit more about technology, aboutimages, about all sorts of different things
in the realm of technology that couldhave explained my sense that the photo was
off and that it was there wassome deceit going on with the caption of
her name underneath the photo. Sothat's that's one kind of UM experience I

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have. The other is, perhapslately it's been more common, it's just
being just I find myself being ledto different rabbit holes, different sources of
information, and UM lately I've beenled to some YouTube videos and when I
hear somebody telling about what's going tobe happening in the future, or just

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what their perception of what's going onin the world. When I hear somebody
say that, I either get aclunk or I get the bill of truth,
whatever it is they're talking about,if it's if it's a world stage
matter, and UM. So Ihave wonderful UM sources or videos or just

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people out there who I am awareof who have run the bill of for
me. And so in that way, it's like I don't have to be
a financial expert, for example,to hear somebody say, oh, there's
going to be a financial collap soon. I don't really know what the dates
are never I never really have asense for that. But if I get
the bill of truth when they saythat, then if it makes sense to

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me and it just aligns inwardly,then that's the other kind. It's sort
of from somebody else's expertise, fromsomething they shared, and I either respond
affirmatively or negatively within me in myinternewer. Yes, I think that's interesting,
and so I believe you know,when you talk about this, it
really just sounds like you're able totune in more to the frequency and receive

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more in these growing gifts. Alot of people call it sixth sense.
A lot of people would say,just really really, you know, fine
tuned intuition. And so that's whatyou mean by world stage intuitive in that
there's you know, personal intuition thatyou may have, but you were able

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to have the global vision and feelthat you're able to call it. Yes,
exactly, And I'm just really sograteful for what's been happening in my
life lately. For years, Iwould just not really think of myself as
an intuitive, even though there Iwas looking at the newspaper, watching all

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of these different events unfold in theworld. I could go into many examples
and I won't, but just havingit in my day to day experience from
time to time, just popping up, and I wasn't catching counting myself as
an intuitive. I was just dismissingthat it was just something sort of on
the periphery. And it wasn't untilit came to me that, oh,

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I'm a real state intuitive not toolong ago that I started to I sort
of coined that term. I startedto identify much more as somebody who has
this gift. And after years ofsort of dismissing it, discounting it,
not making it a part of myrepertoire, part of what I was offering

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the world, and now it's becomesomething very central. Yes, And I
want to ask you if you feelI've heard this before, that we all
are able to tap into this higherknowing. I know you talk about this
a lot. What about the peoplethat feel really challenged? And do you
believe that you know? I reallyam going to just have to say,

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I honestly don't know. I mean, on one level, yes, we
do all have an internewer, absolutely, and then on the other hand,
just to say a little bit moreabout what I was going through when I
was denying my intuition, or atleast not identifying as an intuitive. Back
then, I had decided that intuitiveswere people who were able to tap into

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what's going on on a personal levelin a personal life story. For somebody
from out of the blue to comeup to them and say, can you
tell me about my housing situation?And immediately they have an answer. They
have a knowing. That was somethingI had no powers to do. And
therefore I thought, oh, I'mnot an intuitive. And it wasn't until

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I realized, oh, my goodness, intuition can come in all sorts of
shapes and sizes, and in mycase, yeah, I'm not an intuitive
by that narrow definition. So Iguess my answer is yes and no.
We do all have intuition, forsure, and it can look different from
one person to the next. Yes, and I have some people that in

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my life that are just so incrediblyintuitive that their information is always so reliable.
They're able to trust their gut andeven if it seems like not possible,
it turns out at the end ofthe day that they were so right.
And so it continues to be validatedover and over. And maybe that's

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a great way for people listening tothink about if they have had some intuitive
moments. Life is so busy,full and fast these days that a lot
of us aren't slowing down and takingthe time to simply be and listen and
become aligned with that internewing. Andso I think that a lot of gifts

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are out there and not being acknowledged. I so appreciate that. And as
I was saying, there's a sensein which you know and in one respect,
I really was not acknowledging or embracingthe powers within me, because I
was just pushing it off to theperiphery, experiencing it, but not really
standing in that power and acknowledging it. And I really do think it's helpful,

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hardly, just helpful to our empowermentand to our self acceptance and our
expansiveness to go ahead and acknowledge andrecognize ourselves. We have to be the
first ones to recognize our gifts andour powers and what they look like.
So looking back over your life andasking yourself, as you were suggesting people
do, asking yourself, when didI cap a bull's eye about something,

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maybe something personal or maybe something insomebody else's life or whatever that's so valuable.
That's a wonderful place to start takingsteps in the direction of becoming more
and more intuitive as you recognize it. I think that supports you in continuing
to snowball the power. Yes,and I think some people, well you

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know, I mentioned they just maynot be mindful. Other people may be
like, Okay, this is alittle scary for me to have this kind
of knowing, and they're like,I'm not even going there. I don't
want to like bellish on this gift. I not sure I want this power
because they're a little bit intimidated byit. I so appreciate you using the

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word scary, because fear is perhapsthe number one block to accessing intuition.
Not necessarily just fear of being intuitiveor fear of knowing things, but just
any kind of fear can really getin the way. Yeah. So true.
And speaking of fear, you arenot I want to go on record

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a doomsday profit. Even though youmay see you know, potential doom or
gloom out there, and you mayactually be able to predict this, that
or the other thing, that maynot mean overall generally great things for society,
but you believe it's vitally important forall of us to regardless, dwell

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in optimism and high vibes too.Are so about here on the Aging Great
Police Show? And how are youable to kind of know something may not
be so positive, but stay inthe positive. One of the things that
I offer my clients is the exercise. It's very basic. It's going to

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sound like kindergarten, but sometimes it'sthe kindergarten things that are the most important.
You know, that's a wonderful placeto start and to always go back
to, even after you become advanced, to kindercassive foundation, right. I
mean, it's the foundation, it'sthe building blocks, right. And one
of the foundation possible foundation practices thatI like to encourage people to do is
start with an attitude of wondering.We need to just set our inner sales

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in a way that can seem morepossibilities, including better possibilities than the ones
were habituated to. We may justoften just fall into the trap of,
oh, my goodness, my bankbalance and my stocks just went way down,
and now I'm a victim of allof the powers in the world that

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lowered my social security or whatever itis, and just to be stuck in
the quicksand of being a victim withouteven realizing that there is a choice and
that that's optional. Victim response isalways optional. And as a spiritual growth
coach, I just love to helppeople with the spiritual growth of that comes

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from just seeing more possibilities, moreresponses, asking what if questions along with
wondering what if there is better thingsawaiting me than I've ever experienced before at
the end of the tunnel and soon and so forth. Yes, I
love that, And on the otherside of break, I was hoping.
I love that you are inviting peoplein your world, those listening, those

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that you coach and that are familiarwith your work, to use imagination as
part of the journey to discover one'spower, majesty, glory within, and
you encourage people to celebrate what youcall the not yet. We want to
know more about celebrating the not yeton the other side of break, So
hopefully you can explain to us whatthat means and how we can start doing

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that. Are you willing to dothat? Yes, that's wonderful. Great,
don't go anywhere, because this fantasticconversation will continue today, We're grateful
to be with Elliott robertson talking allthings let's see like achieving, heart centered
living and visions of a joyful world. We all want that. You can
learn more and reach out to himby visiting him at Eliott Elliott robertson Joyful

(20:48):
World All one word, Elliott RobertsonJoyful World at gmail dot com. So
reach out to him if you havequestions or want to work close sleep with
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which helps me to know that it'simportant I care, not if only
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of such a platform, of sucha moment, of such a space that
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great honor, a great privilege toshare this space today this show, I
would greatly highly recommend it for anyonebefore the show even started. I'm a
usually a very optimistic, a veryyou know, high person, always on
level ten. What I can tellyou today that just by listening to the
intro today, guys, I wason level twenty thirty, forty fifty,

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and so I just couldn't wait toget this interview started. So I just
want to again recommend and let youknow that this platform is phenomenal and it
is I believe, continuing to dojust a great work in this world.
So again, thank you for havingme, thank you for allowing me to
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much, best listeners in the world. I'm kind of an authority on that
matter, and I believe that youabsolutely are welcome back to Aging gratefully.
I'm your host. You're intologist HollyKelly here today with our special guest,
returning guest Elliott Robertson. Now youwould know him because this episode is still
just really basking in the downloads hisprevious episodes Say Yes to Life. Everybody

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wants to say yes to life,and if you're struggling with that, you
will love that episode because he willencourage you to do that. So he
is someone that promotes cultivating a greatercapacity for tapping into the inner nower within
you and releasing your tight hold onnegative beliefs and so much more. Such

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important work and the times we're livingin. So I know you, my
awesome Aging Rebels are all about thisconversation today, and we'll return to wit,
but I want to make sure wegive our listeners shout out this week
to a listener who sent me anemail thank you. You see our email
there at the bottom of the show, right up from literally probably hundreds of

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podcasts platforms, but they wrote tome, Aging Gratefully is such a feel
good, wholesome and positive podcasts.It really helps me direct my life in
a direction that makes me appreciate itso much more. I am living the
Aging Gratefully lifestyle. Thank you,Holly. Well you know that I responded
to you. Thank you so muchfor that. Really appreciate it, and

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that's what we aim to do.So it feels good to hear from you
and know that we are being successfulon that goal. So so appreciate hearing
from our listeners and finding out whatyou like about the show, and you
know what else we appreciate today's guest, and I invite you to visit him.

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Go ahead and connect with him atElliott robertson Joyful World at gmail dot
com. And if you have questionsfor him, I want to connect with
him. That's where you can findhim. And he has private coaching to
help cultivate new habits of holding yourselfin unconditional love and a lot of life
enhancing content that he's sharing with theworld that's available to you. He also

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has a free ebook preparing for thecoming food shortage that if you email him,
he will send you this. Canyou tell us a little bit about
that? Elliott? Sure, Iwas talking just before the break a little
bit about some of the exercises thatI liked to share with my clients,
including asking what if questions and goinginto I wonder mode and other things that

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can help are set our inner salesor establish a positive inner posture, so
to speak. And so I dohave a few exercises in the PDF that
you can practice from one day tothe next, for you know, a
week or two and see if youcan start getting the fire going, you

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know, just light the kindling.It's a very short pdf, but it
has the kindling that you need toget started with the first baby steps,
which are sometimes the most difficult.And then as you get the habit going
and the momentum going and setting thesales towards a more positive direction. When
you're getting the habit of scene morethan just one option of being a victim

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in front of you and noticing thatyou can respond differently, things become so
much quicker and easier. So I'mhoping that this pdf help to start with
those first important baby steps in thatdirection, yes, and get us ready
for what you call the not yetCan you explain what that means so that

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we can all start doing in preparingfor the not yet? Sure? And
first of all, yeah, preparingis a word in the title of the
short pdf that I'm offering anyone byrequest. I just send me an email
and say you'd like to have preparingfor the coming food shortage and you'll get
the short ebook for sure. Andlisteners, let him know that you heard

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about this from listening to this podcast, because that makes him feel good that
his message has reached you. That'sright. And the thing is is that
preparing can be a tricky word becauseyou know, people might think of the
title preparing for the coming food shortageand might think, Oh, what do
I need to do? Do Ineed to get food in the pantry.
There are a lot of practical thingsthat could have been included in the book,

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and my focus is always on spiritualgrowth and setting the inner sales.
So that is the kind of preparationthat I'm going to be offering in this
short book. In any event,preparing for the not yet is what your
question is about. And I'd liketo just really take a moment to look

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a little bit at what the notyet might be. Uh. You know.
Pam Gregory is an astrologer who talksabout the stars as not being predictive.
I don't think the future can bepredicted, really, because I don't
think there is a finalized future withoutour input. I think that when we

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get out of victim mode and startlooking at a broader array of possibilities,
we have a chance to influence whatour future looks like. Absolutely so um
Pam Gregory's take on it. Whenpeople come to her and say, okay,
you, as an astrologer, tellme what's happening in the future.

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According to the Planets and Stars.She always says, I can't do that.
I can just share with you whatthe sheet music looks like. And
you can either participate with the sheetmusic by singing out those notes joyfully or
by cringing and singing, singing themout in oh, this is this dreadful

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voice. And you know, therecording that you make of your song is
going to be like night and day. It'll be so vastly different depending on
how you respond to the planets andStars and the sheet music that they provide.
So that's kind of what I'm alludingto with not yet. It's something

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that is within our power to influenceto a large degree, yes, and
certainly empowering. I know that justeven gratitude itself, When you start having
more of a capacity for gratitude,the next thing, you know, more
gratitude shows up in your life.And so it's kind of like the boomerang

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effect. And I love that weare stakeholders and how that might play out.
We are a valuable stakeholder, andhow that might play out, so
attitude, mindset and how we youknow, we can't always control what happens
to us and around us, butwe can control our reaction to such so

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important, and I want you totalk about, you know, like if
we dwell on the positive setting ourinner sales, you know, for this
bright, positive direction. One ofthe things that you have been asked is
isn't this spiritual bypass? What doyou mean by that? And how do
you answer that? Yes? Youknow. One of the things that goes

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into avoiding spiritual bypath, I thinkis being open to all the feelings and
embracing them as they show up.So if grief is what's present, or
anger or sadness or whatever, it'svery important I think to embrace it,
acknowledge it, push nothing down,denying nothing, resist nothing, just even

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you might say, surrender into thefeeling or embrace the feeling. So I
think that if you are letting everyfeeling course through you and have its journey
and honoring every feeling that that canthat can help augment the entire realm of

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feelings that are available to you,both the ones that people might call negative
and the ones that are elevated.And so that can just and up a
space for you to dwell in theoptimism, the joy, the positive.
Well not because if you cut offone end you're cutting off the entire you're

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shrinking the entire circle. So partof avoiding spiritual bypass is definitely about having
an expanded circle that includes everything thatembraces everything that shows up, including all
of the feelings. And so Ifeel like sometimes I feel like these the
listeners just have a question that popsin my head on behalf of them.

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And this is one such one.When you talk about like almost honoring and
allowing for every feeling, be itas it may, anger, grief,
whatever, whatever it is, whatabout those that feel they're in the quicksand
of it? And I know youtalk about, you know, kind of
springboarding into a place of positive,but what about those that feel that,

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Okay, if I honor all ofthis, and if I sit with all
of this, I feel stuck inthe quicksand and I don't know how to
be emboldened to move forward into positive. Yes, here we are getting into
the deeper realm of real trust,real hope. Trust is something that exists

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when it can't exist with fear.At the same time, you could say
that trust is in some ways theopposite of fear. And so it's a
slow process. Sometimes for me,I didn't have a sudden conversion experience from
a lack of trust, from beingvery ego centered to trusting with my whole

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heart, mind, and soul inthe goodness of the cause and the almightiness
of the cosmos, both simultaneously.That's a slow, gradual process for many
of us. And it's just that'swhat spiritual growth is all about. Going

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from spiritual and maturity to spiritual growth, is taking that journey that can bring
us to a high enough elevation tolook down and not just get caught up
in the weeds. I really dofeel like what keeps us in quicksand very
often is just looking at the weedsand thinking that's all there is. And

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when we have a view from theeagles perch, we can see so much
more of the territory of our lives, of the territory of the world,
happenings and so on and so forth, And the eagles perch is accessible,
I think most easily when we reallydo do the work of having trust.

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I love of a passage from theBible, and I'll paraphrase it. I
don't have the Bible in front ofme right this moment. It's from the
Book of Habba, cook, Andit's basically just saying, even though there
are no fixs on the fig tree, and there are no calves in the
pen, and the land is totallyparched, even though there is nothing growing

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in the garden, I will trustthe Lord with all my heart and all
my might, for the one thecosmos is my savior. Well, you
know, I think that interestingly enough, our aging, gratefully showed dedication kind
of speaks to this, grow throughwhat you go through. And that's I

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think what we're intended to do inlife. Absolutely, we are called to
look at the world squarely and denynothing, to see what's in front of
us in our lives personally and onthe world stage, unflinchingly with courage.
Recalled to not see anything to startit, but to see things as they

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are as best we can, andat the same time, simultaneously, in
the same breath, say yes tolife and just know that this is possible,
possibly fertilizer for growth. Everything thatwe engage with in life, that

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we encounter, all the cards thatcome our way, are possible fertilizer.
I remember when the pandemic came,my routine was to go to the cafe.
First thing in the morning and getout my notebook and write poems and
so on and so forth. Andthat was disrupted. And at the start,
I was in a little bit ofgrief, which is fine. I

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allowed that to be. And Iwas also in a more than my fair
share of cursy, I suppose,and I caught myself. You know,
we're always going to be going intocursing, We're always going to be having
human responses. We're not going tonecessarily be saints and enlightened in this life.
Yeah, but it's tricky and yes, correct, that's all there is

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to it. It's so simple.Yeah, catch in recourse. Um,
well, I love that. Andof course that's you know, being life
overcome at times, and it doeshappen, um. And the way out
is the beginning of the way outis awareness. And I always say the
journey of a thousand miles begins withsimply lifting a foot, doesn't matter which

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one, just get it up inthe area. You gotta put it down
at some point. Um. Sothat's the start of forward moving in um,
even the smallest of manners. Soyou write this incredible, I'm sorry,
I didn't mean to interrupt you.Those little ahead Oh well, those
little steps are so important. Imean, when we are little weeds,

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and so often in one area oranother, we're all little weeds until we
die, you know, and insome area we have our Kelly's heel.
But so it's those first steps thatare in some ways the most important and
the most delicate. When when theweed is young, that's the delicate moment,
the vulnerable moment. And um.And I'm also hoping that the little

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steps that are offered in my PDAwill be a help to anyone who is
feeling a pull on their heart,a tug on their heart, to go
ahead and give it a try.Yes, um, And I think that,
you know, it's just so importantthat you know, we slow down
a little bit in this world andstart kind of listening. I know that

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I was talking to my mom andshe was like, oh my goodness,
you know, like I was finallyable to you know, think this through
and all of that. And Iwas like, you know why right,
because she had just um, youknow, been in the midst of a
move and everything else. I waslike, you had a chance to breathe
and catch your breath and have freethought flowing through you. And it's amazing

(42:05):
what can show up when we kindof make a space for that. Absolutely
yeah, breath is important and spaceand I was slowing down. Absolutely yes.
Some of our greatest work, ideasand epiphanies come during those times.
So you wrote this great book,Say Yes to Life listeners that's on Amazon

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as well, and really enjoy talkingabout that in the last episode. Check
out that Aging Gratefully episode with ElliottSay Yes to Life. You have visions
of a joyful world coming out.You've written many books, actually, so
we appreciate the positive perspectives that youshare to uplift others and mankind in general.

(42:54):
But one thing that you talk aboutis begin practicing the art of listening
for the inner bell of truth.And I think I, you know,
kind of talking about this right now. Tell us how that begins, Yes,
listening for the inner bill of truthand also listening to the heart,
and perhaps as are related for me, I don't. I'm not entirely sure

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if I really have much of ananswer for listening for the inner bill of
truth, because I think for meit is sort of an unconscious competency and
I'm sure that there are ways ofhoning it. But what I have been
focusing on with clients is listening listeningto the heart, because so often in

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this culture especially, we are conditionedto dismiss the heart, ignore the heart.
Maybe the heart speaking to us andsaying this is what I want,
and we say we all we haveto do X, Y and Z first,
So postponing the heart's wishes, justsort of letting the mind being the
driver's seat instead of letting the mindserve the heart. So that is really

(44:08):
one of the wonderful things to dowhen we slow down and when we take
time to reflect, is to letthat be time devoted to listening to the
heart. And you know, thisis something that I'm so glad you're asking,
because I think I need to givesome more time to think about,
Well, how is that connected tolistening to the inner bill of truth?

(44:30):
I imagine that whenever we go inwardand hone our skills at listening to what's
within us, it would end outlifting up our ability not only to listen
to the heart, but to listento everything, including whatever the internoer is
saying. And you know what,I may end out landing on the heart

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and the inner new air being sortof one and the same, maybe the
innernower sort of living in the heartas opposed to living in the mind.
I appreciate that question, and Ihaven't explored that so much. Well,
it sounds like they're very kindred.And you know, we acknowledge that,
Wow, can life the world situationsbecome so convoluted that we lose clarity and

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we don't have a sense of likesedentary thoughtfulness and mindfulness and things like that.
And so you're inviting us all toreally take a moment with this and
see how we can actually align ourselvesmore. And I imagine if listeners think

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about their life that they look backon their past, they actually may be
able to see some innerbells of truththat happened and they either walked through those
doors or they didn't, but theymight recall that, you know, I
kind of knew, I kind ofknew it felt right. Door number one

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felt right, and I went throughdoor number two. And why did I
hit you know all you know,all system delete or would I control all
delete? Why did I do that? And sometimes we're thinking but not reflecting.
I so appreciate that, and Ijust want to add to that that
one of the most important things anyonecan do is just do whatever it takes

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to evaporate judgment. It's always sotempting, you might say, or so
much a habit to judge ourselves harshlywhenever we have an awareness of oh my
goodness, I could have chosen doornumber one and I ignored that voice,
or oh my goodness, my spousewas having an affair and I knew it,

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but I wouldn't admit it consciously.I just knew it in a deeper
level or whatever it is. Andthen to just turn that into a moment
of judgment, catch yourself if judgingyourself, and just trust that this can

(47:06):
be a fertilizer that that progress ispossible. That's the thing about the mistakes
that we've made in the past.That's the thing about the moments when we've
disregarded our heart's voice and our intuitionand the innerbell of truth. The thing
is is that there's always room forgrowth, and that's something to celebrate.
And that's what I love about beinga spiritual growth coach is that you know

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wherever we are, which I justmeet people where you are, and I
just work with you to go tothe next place on the path. Yes,
and so amazing. We've actually doneshows. Um I believe it was
the title of it was a nonjudgment, and so we have really spent

(47:51):
some time dissecting how damaging judgment canbe and how it prevalent it is we
are judging and we don't even knowwe're judging. It's just so autopilots.
So I'm really glad that you spoketo that because it kind of is reminding
us again, Hey, are weyou know, are we doing that and
checking ourselves at the door so important? Is there anything else you'd like to

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talk about in these final moments ofthe show that we may have overlooked anything
that you want the folks listening rightnow to really know about your message platform
and work. Thank you. Ithink there might be two things. First
of all, I really am expecting. I'm not I never really do predictions

(48:37):
and dates, but from my kindof intuition that I talked about at the
start that comes from what other peoplesay that weans a belle of truth when
I listen to them. From thatkind of intuition, I am expecting and
anticipating a food shortage to be showingup, and I'm pretty sure it'll be
before the years out, maybe soonthan later, but I'm thinking that if

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I had to go with a date, it would be sometime around the fall.
And like I say, I generallydon't really think that dates are all
that possible to come up with,because I think timelines can be tricky.
The other thing I'd like to addto what you were just saying a moment
ago about, or what we wereboth saying about not judging, is simply

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that I really feel like we arein a new world now, and it's
a world where there's so much moresupport than ever before, and that is
a world that is supporting us inno longer judging. It could turn out
to be a very simple and somewhateasy transition for many of us to take.

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I think a lot of us willbe surprised by how rapidly we can
grow in that direction into just celebratingour true selves, the one within us
who has been waiting for us todiscover and to let that be the place
where we dwell, and the judgmentto become just an old habit that still

(50:07):
sometimes shows up, but that doesn'treally hold us in central stage the way
it has in the past. Yes, so important, and we just really
appreciate all of the things that you'vegiven us to think about, to reflect
on, to kind of work towardsso that we can all live more in

(50:30):
the brightest light and experience life forall that it is meant to. I
mean, I think with everything thatwe've talked about, you've offered a positive
spin, and it's so important becausewhat's a negative spin going to do for
us just make us feel worse?But a positive spin a literal like the

(50:52):
law of attraction. You know,I love to focus on the positive,
and I do focus on the positive. In the ebook that we keep going
back to preparing for the coming foodshortage, it is totally positive. So
because it is a chance for usto go spiritually like never before, I
really feel like the challenges are harderthan ever before, and that means the

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JIM is more fruitful and productive togrowing than ever before. Yes, well,
great, So listeners, you canreach out to Elliott email him at
Elliott Robertson ell Iott Robertson, JoyfulWorld at gmail dot com. And so
we can't of course have the ourend without knowing how you age gratefully,

(51:38):
Elliott, Yes, you know,I really do think that not only meditation,
but also just setting the inwards salesin a positive direction. Following,
Julian of Norwich is advised dwelling thepositive and glance at the negative, as
opposed to dwelling in the negative andglancing at the positive. I think that

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is a way of slowing down theaging process. So true, yes,
stress and worry and anxiety is directlyimpacts longevity. So you are practicing and
sharing with the world things that actuallycan help us live longer, happier and

(52:20):
more vibrant, passion centered lives.So we appreciate that. Thank you so
much for this chance to share withyou. Oh you're very welcome, and
thank you for all the gems thatyou're bringing to the world and the way
that you continue to elevate the humanspirit. We really appreciate it. It's
a joy wonderful, So thank youso much. Listeners, you've been listening

(52:40):
to Aging gratefully and I'm your host. Youreontologist Holly Kelly. Thank you so
much for tuning in. If youenjoy our message, I invite you to
subscribe and share it with others.May you remember to never act to your
age and that age is just anumber, and may you enjoy and embrace
the coming week in the spirit ofgratitude until we meet again. Years to
living your best life. Now.I used to think time was my enemy.

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My future wasn't looking good. Soworried about the things I couldn't see,
I couldn't see the things I could. I was aging, fearfully,
worrying my life away, when allalong I should have been thankful for every

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day, finally made a friend oftime. Now you could say that I'm
aging gratefully, aging gratefully