July 9, 2025 • 20 mins
She lost her wife, her mother—and still found healing. A story of grief, growth, and starting over.
How do you rebuild your life after trauma, profound grief, and unimaginable loss?
If you're a woman over 50 navigating trauma healing, grief recovery, or searching for spiritual transformation, this powerful conversation with Ann Jonas will meet you right where you are and gently guide you forward.
Anne’s story begins in chaos: a narcissistic, suicidal father. Then the unthinkable—he shot and killed her mother. Just as she began to heal, Anne fell in love, married, and had a daughter… only to lose her wife to cancer when their child was just two years old.
But Anne didn’t stay broken.
Now known as The Love Messenger, she shares how life’s darkest moments became the path to healing, purpose, and connection. Her work helps women reconnect with who they are beneath pain, loss, and the stories they’ve been told.
🎧 In this episode:
- Healing from trauma in midlife
- Spiritual growth after loss
- How grief can become a gateway to personal reinvention
- The “empty boxes” metaphor for processing trauma
- How 15 years in fine dining prepared her to hold space for others’ healing
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion, the
podcast designed to inspire yourgreatness and thrive through
life.
Get ready to conquer your fears.
Here's your hostpsychotherapist, coach and
empowerment expert, BeverlyGlazer.
Beverley Glazer (00:30):
Have you looked back at your life and asked
yourself how did I survive that?
Well, welcome to Aging withPurpose and Passion, the podcast
for women over 50 who are readyto stop settling and live life
on their own terms.
Each week, you'll hear rawconversations, inspiring stories
(00:51):
and get practical tools to helpyou reignite your own fire.
I'm Beverly Glazer, atransformational coach and
therapist for women ready toreclaim their voice and break
free from what's holding themback, and you can find more
about me onreinventimpossiblecom.
Anne Jonas is atransformational guide, an
(01:16):
intuitive healer, a spiritualteacher known as the love
messenger.
In this episode, she revealsher journey from trauma to
complete transformation, andtoday she helps others rise from
the mud and connect to theirdivine essence a reminder of who
(01:37):
you really are.
So keep listening and welcome.
Ann Jonas (01:43):
Thank you so much for that beautiful introduction and
I love how you hold space forpeople to find their own light
from within.
Beverley Glazer (01:52):
Thank you.
What was it like for you set meup for my life as in a
spiritual experience.
Ann Jonas (02:10):
Essentially, my parents were divorced when I was
11.
My father had multiple suicideattempts all my life, starting
at two and a half when hechecked himself into a motel,
into a motel, into a mentalfacility.
He did check himself into amotel when I was 16, on my 16th
(02:30):
birthday, to let me know he wasa failure as a father and he was
going to take his life.
So that didn't happen.
But then, 25 years later, whenI was 36, he showed up at my
childhood home in Carpinteriaand he shot and killed my mom.
Beverley Glazer (02:51):
Whoa.
Okay, there's no other words.
There's no words at all.
Yeah, and how were you able tosurvive during such a difficult
time?
I mean, this is trauma.
Now you have both parentsdifficult time.
Ann Jonas (03:05):
I mean this is trauma .
Now you have both parents.
You know that is.
It's.
It's its own interestingparallel story because it's
related to God whatever you wantto call God, but the self
journey, love essence source.
I was raised Jewish, so therewas that experience of God and,
(03:26):
as I said, this was a spiritualexperience and I remember a
moment in the processing of allthe stuff that happens when
somebody dies and you got tonavigate stuff, and I felt like
I looked up and I was like, okay, this is a spiritual experience
, like this is a moment, likeI'll remember this, I mean for
(03:48):
various reasons, but this momentright now and it was a
restaurant with yellow walls Imean I really do remember it and
I honor that.
It was the combination of whatresilience is.
Resilience is.
We're actually born with it.
As babies, we keep getting up.
(04:11):
It's what happens along thelines where there's different
expectations about what gettingup means right and how we follow
that.
So for me, it was about gettingup and it was about recognizing
that this, that everything,speaking into what I already
knew, which was everything isserving.
Beverley Glazer (04:34):
I love that because you are a professional
server and you were a serverfrom 18 years old to 32.
18 years old to 32.
And most people when they startserving they'll can start at 18
, but they generally quit.
Ann Jonas (04:57):
Now, 32,.
What did serving do for you?
For me and it's interestingwhen I think about like when I
was 13, I was babysitting and Ihad a little vinyl black like
two by two address book Like Iwork with spreadsheets now, but
this was like I'm 13.
So I was.
I've always been in a place tobe organized and hold space, and
(05:19):
my desire is to help andsupport others.
Everything I've ever done hasbeen in that vein, and so that's
how I saw my 15 year career infine dining and food service was
holding space for people tohave a dining experience, and
that's what it was.
Beverley Glazer (05:41):
And so the restaurant business was more
than just a restaurant businessand just serving food for you.
Ann Jonas (05:48):
Oh, it was family.
Oh my gosh.
I still have friends from allthe restaurants I've worked at
and it's if you've ever donethis work, been in the service
industry.
There are layers to it, right,and there's all in and there's
touch in, and these arerestaurants that I worked at
that were all in like careerpeople Like these are what I
(06:09):
chose, and they were all aboutexpanding.
And every restaurant I everworked at I was either created,
fixed, facilitated the trainingprogram or was one of the
trainers.
I was all about helping peoplebe the best version of
themselves from out the gate.
(06:30):
My mother was an elementaryschool teacher.
I never wanted to be a teacher.
I always said I'm never goingto be a teacher and, as I see it
now, everything I've ever donehas been.
There's been a facet that Ihave expressed through as a
teacher.
Beverley Glazer (06:51):
Why did you leave?
Ann Jonas (06:53):
So I was working in a restaurant, living life, going
to college, taking my time, gota degree in communicative
disorders which was a lead-in tospeech pathology.
Along the way I felt morealigned with holistic health and
started really I was exploringspirituality from the Wicca
(07:16):
goddess perspective.
Nature-based pagan Thingsstarted expanding for me through
my twenties and then I foundfinished my degree and decided
to go to massage school.
So still waiting tables and nowgoing to massage school and now
starting a massage business,basically house calls.
(07:36):
I just take my table and go topeople's houses whenever,
whatever.
Well, part of my journey incollege actually was to write a
paper that you know, compositionpaper, that whatever you want
to write on, and this is likeDewey Decimal, like the catalog
days.
So that's your audience, right?
(07:58):
We're all in the same boat.
So here we are.
I'm looking for to write apaper on witches, witchcraft,
and basically found out thatmany of the witches were
midwives, which opened my eyesto this whole other way where
babies come onto the planetthrough this kind of container,
which then led me to I wastaking at a pregnant client.
(08:21):
I was taking a massage classfor working with pregnant women,
found out about doula work,started doing doula work.
A couple of years later, whensomeone came along and said, hey
, do you want to be at my birth?
A couple of years later, whensomeone came along and said, hey
, do you want to be at my birth?
And essentially felt contractedwith both my clients and this
(08:44):
and this restaurant, and decidedthat my I say this my business
plan but it really was my birthplan was that I desired like
five to seven massage clients aweek and one to three births a
month, and I had $5,000 in thebank and I was like God, you led
me here, like take me out, youknow.
And so that was it.
The Lotus Touch, my firstbusiness and being a solopreneur
(09:06):
, was birthed and you gotmarried.
Yes, along the way.
So after my mother died it'sinteresting Somebody asked me at
the funeral if I ever excuse me, how I was doing, and I was
like, well, you know, it's aninteresting experience, right?
And I said, well, I felt likeboth my parents were dead, and
(09:29):
so I was like in this way, Ifeel like that's the order of
things.
You know, parents die first, soit's not like it's my partner
the person I share my bed with.
So I just jumped ahead to thestory.
But here's the point I wasn'twith anybody, and three years
later I met Erica and we weremarried.
We had a daughter, and overthat journey from a month before
(09:51):
our wedding, she was diagnosedwith melanoma and so we had a
four-year journey there and thenshe left the planet when our
daughter was two.
So that's the other piece ofthis resilient stand up again
thing situation.
Beverley Glazer (10:08):
Oh yeah, how did you move forward with that
resilience?
Ann Jonas (10:12):
It's a matter of recognizing that I am here to
live this life.
This is a piece that maybe someof you recognize navigate.
Some of you never heard of thisbefore like this, might be so
outside the box, but I believewe choose everything.
We choose our parents.
(10:33):
I believe we choose everything.
We choose our parents, wechoose our children, we choose
our partners, we choose ourcolleagues.
We choose every facet of ourlife as an expression of our
(10:53):
divine desire to be.
We're a light being that getssmushed into a body.
That's another way of sayingwe're a spiritual being having a
human experience.
So my resilience again comesfrom and I didn't know this
consciously it comes from myconnection with self, higher
self, higher power, and God topoint me in a direction, to
(11:18):
offer grace and compassion.
Beverley Glazer (11:21):
So, for you, spirituality was what helped you
move forward.
Ann Jonas (11:28):
Absolutely that path, that anchor, that anchor, that
relationship.
Beverley Glazer (11:33):
Yeah, what would you tell someone who feels
it's too late for them?
They're afraid to go back inthe past, they're afraid to move
forward.
They're stuck in all thattrauma, if you will, because
here you, your father shot yourmother.
This is traumatic and you canhold this forever.
(11:55):
So what would you tell someonelike that, who's really stuck?
Ann Jonas (12:03):
There's layers to this, in essence.
First, starting with gratitude.
It really is.
It's about gratitude.
It's recognizing thateverything is serving.
It really has to start there.
I'm not saying in the moment,I'm not saying, oh, you have a
(12:23):
trauma, and then like, well,everything is serving.
I'm not saying that, I'm sayingin this post-stuckness, this
post-event.
So there's this equation in Eplus R equals O, the events or
experiences in our life plus thereactions or the responses,
create the outcome the event'sgone.
I mean, even if it wasyesterday or this morning, it's
(12:43):
gone.
Everything that we're sittingin is how we responded to it,
and so that's the reflection,then, is remembering that we
choose everything, we choosewhat we're looking at, we choose
how we feel, and that it alsobrings us to the four agreements
.
That's an important part of notmaking assumptions, not taking
(13:05):
things personally, rememberingto speak from your heart and do
your best.
I didn't make those up.
That's, don Miguel.
The four agreements, yes, theToltec wisdom, but these are the
things we have all of this atour fingertips, accessible
(13:27):
within us?
Beverley Glazer (13:28):
Yes, what have?
What?
Can you tell others from whatyou have learned through your
journey?
From what you have learnedthrough your journey?
Ann Jonas (13:35):
Remember that the mud is serving, the muck is serving
, and that often what we do inour life and maybe this will
feel resonant is that we havethese stories right.
We have these experiences.
It's kind of like the movieInside Out with the balls, the
balls of memories.
I don't know if anybody's seenthat one.
(13:55):
I love Inside Out.
I love Pixar.
Soul is another beautiful movie.
I'm a big fan of those twoanimated classics, in my opinion
.
Here's my point we have theselife experiences and they create
a box.
Now, what that box looks likereally depends on how we deal
with that box.
Like if we just throw the boxin a room and make a mountain of
(14:18):
empty boxes, it's not verystable.
And I'm so sorry I'm sayingthis and it's something's
totally coming through.
I've been using speaking to thisidea and totally forgot that I
have a whole story where Iliterally did that.
I threw and made a mountain ofboxes in my garage and right
(14:42):
after Erica passed away and Iwas like, what do I do?
Like what do I do?
I'm a single mom with atwo-year-old in a house that's
full of stuff and you know, thetrust was in my name.
But where do we live?
How do I?
How do I manage?
Right, how do I pay the bills?
I'm working, you know, here as adoula and a massage therapist
(15:04):
and I'm standing in my garagelooking at this mountain of
empty boxes and I I see thismarquee in my vision and Jonas,
author, life coach,inspirational speaker.
Now I laughed because I thought, well, that's great, and you
know, that was 12 years ago, andso it's funny how I was looking
(15:26):
for guidance in the now momentand everything's in the now
moment, right, so everything ishere now.
So this idea back to the mudand the boxes is when we take
the time, the grace, thecompassion, the trust and the
vulnerability to take a lookinside, see what those boxes
(15:50):
offered us, have gratitude andthen find the completion that
comes from the acknowledgement,and then you fill it and now
it's not an empty box, it's abrick, and it becomes a layer of
the foundation or the path,your lotus path, your life.
Beverley Glazer (16:14):
There you go.
It's wonderful, yes, Thank you.
Thank you, Anne.
Anne Jonas is atransformational guide, an
intuitive healer and a spiritualteacher.
Known as the love messenger,she supports others to reconnect
with their divine essence,offering guidance rooted in
(16:37):
decades of service, intuitionand transformation.
Through workshops, energy workor one-on-one sessions, Anne
helps others remember theirbeings of love, light and deep
resilience.
Here are a few takeaways fromthis episode.
You can heal from trauma, nomatter how long it's been.
(17:01):
Your past does not define you.
Facing it will set you free,and reinvention isn't about
becoming someone new.
It's dealing with who you free.
And reinvention isn't aboutbecoming someone new.
It's dealing with who you are.
If you've been relating to thisepisode, here are a few actions
you could do right now.
Write down one thing thatyou're proud of surviving, and
(17:27):
light a candle in your own honorto recognize how far you've
come For similar episodes onovercoming trauma after 50,
check out episodes 126 and 133of Aging with Purpose and
Passion.
And if you love podcasts forolder women, check out Older
Women and Friends withaward-winning host Jane Leder.
(17:48):
Jane and guests take a deepdive into the joys and
challenges of being an olderwoman.
Older Women and Friends is apodcast that sets the record
straight, dispels the myths andexplores the many contributions
and wisdom that older women haveearned and are eager to share.
That link is going to be in theshow notes.
(18:10):
And so, Anne, where can peoplefind you?
What are your links?
Ann Jonas (18:16):
There's a one-stop shop with me and it's
thelotuspathlove yes, L-O-V-E atthe end there and that's where
you'll find everything fromone-to-one work along the
Enlightenment Pathway or theSacred Connection webinar or any
of the other guidance portalenergy perspective guidance that
(18:37):
I offer.
There are many ways to connectwith me in many facets and
terrific all over the place.
Beverley Glazer (18:44):
I look forward to and the love messenger
connecting with you terrific,and those links and everything
that Anne has said is going tobe in the show notes.
It's right there and it's alsoon my site too.
That's reoffendimpossiblecom.
And so, my friends, what's nextfor you?
(19:05):
Are you just going through themotions or are you living a life
that you truly love?
Get my free guide to go fromstuck to unstoppable, and that's
also in the show notes below.
You can connect with me,beverly Glazer, on all social
media platforms and in mypositive group of women on
Facebook.
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celebrate life.
Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion, the
podcast designed to inspire yourgreatness and thrive through
life.
Get ready to conquer your fears.
Here's your hostpsychotherapist, coach and
empowerment expert, BeverlyGlazer.
Beverley Glazer (00:30):
Have you looked back at your life and asked
yourself how did I survive that?
Well, welcome to Aging withPurpose and Passion, the podcast
for women over 50 who are readyto stop settling and live life
on their own terms.
Each week, you'll hear rawconversations, inspiring stories
(00:51):
and get practical tools to helpyou reignite your own fire.
I'm Beverly Glazer, atransformational coach and
therapist for women ready toreclaim their voice and break
free from what's holding themback, and you can find more
about me onreinventimpossiblecom.
Anne Jonas is atransformational guide, an
(01:16):
intuitive healer, a spiritualteacher known as the love
messenger.
In this episode, she revealsher journey from trauma to
complete transformation, andtoday she helps others rise from
the mud and connect to theirdivine essence a reminder of who
(01:37):
you really are.
So keep listening and welcome.
Ann Jonas (01:43):
Thank you so much for that beautiful introduction and
I love how you hold space forpeople to find their own light
from within.
Beverley Glazer (01:52):
Thank you.
What was it like for you set meup for my life as in a
spiritual experience.
Ann Jonas (02:10):
Essentially, my parents were divorced when I was
11.
My father had multiple suicideattempts all my life, starting
at two and a half when hechecked himself into a motel,
into a motel, into a mentalfacility.
He did check himself into amotel when I was 16, on my 16th
(02:30):
birthday, to let me know he wasa failure as a father and he was
going to take his life.
So that didn't happen.
But then, 25 years later, whenI was 36, he showed up at my
childhood home in Carpinteriaand he shot and killed my mom.
Beverley Glazer (02:51):
Whoa.
Okay, there's no other words.
There's no words at all.
Yeah, and how were you able tosurvive during such a difficult
time?
I mean, this is trauma.
Now you have both parentsdifficult time.
Ann Jonas (03:05):
I mean this is trauma .
Now you have both parents.
You know that is.
It's.
It's its own interestingparallel story because it's
related to God whatever you wantto call God, but the self
journey, love essence source.
I was raised Jewish, so therewas that experience of God and,
(03:26):
as I said, this was a spiritualexperience and I remember a
moment in the processing of allthe stuff that happens when
somebody dies and you got tonavigate stuff, and I felt like
I looked up and I was like, okay, this is a spiritual experience
, like this is a moment, likeI'll remember this, I mean for
(03:48):
various reasons, but this momentright now and it was a
restaurant with yellow walls Imean I really do remember it and
I honor that.
It was the combination of whatresilience is.
Resilience is.
We're actually born with it.
As babies, we keep getting up.
(04:11):
It's what happens along thelines where there's different
expectations about what gettingup means right and how we follow
that.
So for me, it was about gettingup and it was about recognizing
that this, that everything,speaking into what I already
knew, which was everything isserving.
Beverley Glazer (04:34):
I love that because you are a professional
server and you were a serverfrom 18 years old to 32.
18 years old to 32.
And most people when they startserving they'll can start at 18
, but they generally quit.
Ann Jonas (04:57):
Now, 32,.
What did serving do for you?
For me and it's interestingwhen I think about like when I
was 13, I was babysitting and Ihad a little vinyl black like
two by two address book Like Iwork with spreadsheets now, but
this was like I'm 13.
So I was.
I've always been in a place tobe organized and hold space, and
(05:19):
my desire is to help andsupport others.
Everything I've ever done hasbeen in that vein, and so that's
how I saw my 15 year career infine dining and food service was
holding space for people tohave a dining experience, and
that's what it was.
Beverley Glazer (05:41):
And so the restaurant business was more
than just a restaurant businessand just serving food for you.
Ann Jonas (05:48):
Oh, it was family.
Oh my gosh.
I still have friends from allthe restaurants I've worked at
and it's if you've ever donethis work, been in the service
industry.
There are layers to it, right,and there's all in and there's
touch in, and these arerestaurants that I worked at
that were all in like careerpeople Like these are what I
(06:09):
chose, and they were all aboutexpanding.
And every restaurant I everworked at I was either created,
fixed, facilitated the trainingprogram or was one of the
trainers.
I was all about helping peoplebe the best version of
themselves from out the gate.
(06:30):
My mother was an elementaryschool teacher.
I never wanted to be a teacher.
I always said I'm never goingto be a teacher and, as I see it
now, everything I've ever donehas been.
There's been a facet that Ihave expressed through as a
teacher.
Beverley Glazer (06:51):
Why did you leave?
Ann Jonas (06:53):
So I was working in a restaurant, living life, going
to college, taking my time, gota degree in communicative
disorders which was a lead-in tospeech pathology.
Along the way I felt morealigned with holistic health and
started really I was exploringspirituality from the Wicca
(07:16):
goddess perspective.
Nature-based pagan Thingsstarted expanding for me through
my twenties and then I foundfinished my degree and decided
to go to massage school.
So still waiting tables and nowgoing to massage school and now
starting a massage business,basically house calls.
(07:36):
I just take my table and go topeople's houses whenever,
whatever.
Well, part of my journey incollege actually was to write a
paper that you know, compositionpaper, that whatever you want
to write on, and this is likeDewey Decimal, like the catalog
days.
So that's your audience, right?
(07:58):
We're all in the same boat.
So here we are.
I'm looking for to write apaper on witches, witchcraft,
and basically found out thatmany of the witches were
midwives, which opened my eyesto this whole other way where
babies come onto the planetthrough this kind of container,
which then led me to I wastaking at a pregnant client.
(08:21):
I was taking a massage classfor working with pregnant women,
found out about doula work,started doing doula work.
A couple of years later, whensomeone came along and said, hey
, do you want to be at my birth?
A couple of years later, whensomeone came along and said, hey
, do you want to be at my birth?
And essentially felt contractedwith both my clients and this
(08:44):
and this restaurant, and decidedthat my I say this my business
plan but it really was my birthplan was that I desired like
five to seven massage clients aweek and one to three births a
month, and I had $5,000 in thebank and I was like God, you led
me here, like take me out, youknow.
And so that was it.
The Lotus Touch, my firstbusiness and being a solopreneur
(09:06):
, was birthed and you gotmarried.
Yes, along the way.
So after my mother died it'sinteresting Somebody asked me at
the funeral if I ever excuse me, how I was doing, and I was
like, well, you know, it's aninteresting experience, right?
And I said, well, I felt likeboth my parents were dead, and
(09:29):
so I was like in this way, Ifeel like that's the order of
things.
You know, parents die first, soit's not like it's my partner
the person I share my bed with.
So I just jumped ahead to thestory.
But here's the point I wasn'twith anybody, and three years
later I met Erica and we weremarried.
We had a daughter, and overthat journey from a month before
(09:51):
our wedding, she was diagnosedwith melanoma and so we had a
four-year journey there and thenshe left the planet when our
daughter was two.
So that's the other piece ofthis resilient stand up again
thing situation.
Beverley Glazer (10:08):
Oh yeah, how did you move forward with that
resilience?
Ann Jonas (10:12):
It's a matter of recognizing that I am here to
live this life.
This is a piece that maybe someof you recognize navigate.
Some of you never heard of thisbefore like this, might be so
outside the box, but I believewe choose everything.
We choose our parents.
(10:33):
I believe we choose everything.
We choose our parents, wechoose our children, we choose
our partners, we choose ourcolleagues.
We choose every facet of ourlife as an expression of our
(10:53):
divine desire to be.
We're a light being that getssmushed into a body.
That's another way of sayingwe're a spiritual being having a
human experience.
So my resilience again comesfrom and I didn't know this
consciously it comes from myconnection with self, higher
self, higher power, and God topoint me in a direction, to
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offer grace and compassion.
Beverley Glazer (11:21):
So, for you, spirituality was what helped you
move forward.
Ann Jonas (11:28):
Absolutely that path, that anchor, that anchor, that
relationship.
Beverley Glazer (11:33):
Yeah, what would you tell someone who feels
it's too late for them?
They're afraid to go back inthe past, they're afraid to move
forward.
They're stuck in all thattrauma, if you will, because
here you, your father shot yourmother.
This is traumatic and you canhold this forever.
(11:55):
So what would you tell someonelike that, who's really stuck?
Ann Jonas (12:03):
There's layers to this, in essence.
First, starting with gratitude.
It really is.
It's about gratitude.
It's recognizing thateverything is serving.
It really has to start there.
I'm not saying in the moment,I'm not saying, oh, you have a
(12:23):
trauma, and then like, well,everything is serving.
I'm not saying that, I'm sayingin this post-stuckness, this
post-event.
So there's this equation in Eplus R equals O, the events or
experiences in our life plus thereactions or the responses,
create the outcome the event'sgone.
I mean, even if it wasyesterday or this morning, it's
(12:43):
gone.
Everything that we're sittingin is how we responded to it,
and so that's the reflection,then, is remembering that we
choose everything, we choosewhat we're looking at, we choose
how we feel, and that it alsobrings us to the four agreements
.
That's an important part of notmaking assumptions, not taking
(13:05):
things personally, rememberingto speak from your heart and do
your best.
I didn't make those up.
That's, don Miguel.
The four agreements, yes, theToltec wisdom, but these are the
things we have all of this atour fingertips, accessible
(13:27):
within us?
Beverley Glazer (13:28):
Yes, what have?
What?
Can you tell others from whatyou have learned through your
journey?
From what you have learnedthrough your journey?
Ann Jonas (13:35):
Remember that the mud is serving, the muck is serving
, and that often what we do inour life and maybe this will
feel resonant is that we havethese stories right.
We have these experiences.
It's kind of like the movieInside Out with the balls, the
balls of memories.
I don't know if anybody's seenthat one.
(13:55):
I love Inside Out.
I love Pixar.
Soul is another beautiful movie.
I'm a big fan of those twoanimated classics, in my opinion
.
Here's my point we have theselife experiences and they create
a box.
Now, what that box looks likereally depends on how we deal
with that box.
Like if we just throw the boxin a room and make a mountain of
(14:18):
empty boxes, it's not verystable.
And I'm so sorry I'm sayingthis and it's something's
totally coming through.
I've been using speaking to thisidea and totally forgot that I
have a whole story where Iliterally did that.
I threw and made a mountain ofboxes in my garage and right
(14:42):
after Erica passed away and Iwas like, what do I do?
Like what do I do?
I'm a single mom with atwo-year-old in a house that's
full of stuff and you know, thetrust was in my name.
But where do we live?
How do I?
How do I manage?
Right, how do I pay the bills?
I'm working, you know, here as adoula and a massage therapist
(15:04):
and I'm standing in my garagelooking at this mountain of
empty boxes and I I see thismarquee in my vision and Jonas,
author, life coach,inspirational speaker.
Now I laughed because I thought, well, that's great, and you
know, that was 12 years ago, andso it's funny how I was looking
(15:26):
for guidance in the now momentand everything's in the now
moment, right, so everything ishere now.
So this idea back to the mudand the boxes is when we take
the time, the grace, thecompassion, the trust and the
vulnerability to take a lookinside, see what those boxes
(15:50):
offered us, have gratitude andthen find the completion that
comes from the acknowledgement,and then you fill it and now
it's not an empty box, it's abrick, and it becomes a layer of
the foundation or the path,your lotus path, your life.
Beverley Glazer (16:14):
There you go.
It's wonderful, yes, Thank you.
Thank you, Anne.
Anne Jonas is atransformational guide, an
intuitive healer and a spiritualteacher.
Known as the love messenger,she supports others to reconnect
with their divine essence,offering guidance rooted in
(16:37):
decades of service, intuitionand transformation.
Through workshops, energy workor one-on-one sessions, Anne
helps others remember theirbeings of love, light and deep
resilience.
Here are a few takeaways fromthis episode.
You can heal from trauma, nomatter how long it's been.
(17:01):
Your past does not define you.
Facing it will set you free,and reinvention isn't about
becoming someone new.
It's dealing with who you free.
And reinvention isn't aboutbecoming someone new.
It's dealing with who you are.
If you've been relating to thisepisode, here are a few actions
you could do right now.
Write down one thing thatyou're proud of surviving, and
(17:27):
light a candle in your own honorto recognize how far you've
come For similar episodes onovercoming trauma after 50,
check out episodes 126 and 133of Aging with Purpose and
Passion.
And if you love podcasts forolder women, check out Older
Women and Friends withaward-winning host Jane Leder.
(17:48):
Jane and guests take a deepdive into the joys and
challenges of being an olderwoman.
Older Women and Friends is apodcast that sets the record
straight, dispels the myths andexplores the many contributions
and wisdom that older women haveearned and are eager to share.
That link is going to be in theshow notes.
(18:10):
And so, Anne, where can peoplefind you?
What are your links?
Ann Jonas (18:16):
There's a one-stop shop with me and it's
thelotuspathlove yes, L-O-V-E atthe end there and that's where
you'll find everything fromone-to-one work along the
Enlightenment Pathway or theSacred Connection webinar or any
of the other guidance portalenergy perspective guidance that
(18:37):
I offer.
There are many ways to connectwith me in many facets and
terrific all over the place.
Beverley Glazer (18:44):
I look forward to and the love messenger
connecting with you terrific,and those links and everything
that Anne has said is going tobe in the show notes.
It's right there and it's alsoon my site too.
That's reoffendimpossiblecom.
And so, my friends, what's nextfor you?
(19:05):
Are you just going through themotions or are you living a life
that you truly love?
Get my free guide to go fromstuck to unstoppable, and that's
also in the show notes below.
You can connect with me,beverly Glazer, on all social
media platforms and in mypositive group of women on
Facebook.
(19:25):
That's Women Over 50 Rock, andthank you for listening.
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