November 26, 2025 • 35 mins
What if life after 50 isn’t decline—but your most powerful reboot?
What if life after 50 isn’t decline, but a biological awakening? In this conversation, OBGYN and Hall Center founder Dr. Prudence Hall reframes menopause, midlife and women's health through a root-cause, functional medicine lens.
Dr. Hall explains how hormones act like the body’s software—and what happens when estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone drop in midlife. She breaks down biodentical hormones in clear language, separating them from older synthetic options, and explores how hormones impact brain health, heart health, bone strength, metabolism and mood.
We touch on myths, safety, labs, inflammation, and the lifestyle factors—sleep, stress, movement, nutrition—that make treatment more effective. You’ll also hear practical steps to advocate for your care and approach aging as a second act of strength, purpose, and energy.
If you’re tired of feeling dismissed, exhausted, or confused by conflicting advice, this episode offers a clearer path forward for women over 50 and healthy aging.
Resources
For a similar stories on reclaiming entergy after 50 check episode 141 and 145 of Aging with Purpose and Passion and The "Women in the Middle®" hosted by life coach Suzy Rosenstein and focuses on helping women in midlife, navigate life changes, set goals, and find happiness.
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Announcer (00:06):
Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion, the
podcast designed to inspire yourgreatness and thrive through
life.
Get ready to conquer yourfears.
Here's your host,psychotherapist, coach, and
empowerment expert, BeverleyGlazer.
Beverley Glazer (00:33):
Have you ever met a doctor who treats the
aging process as an awakening?
Well, Dr.
Prudence Hall is that doctor.
Welcome to Aging with Purposeand Passion.
I'm Beverley Glazer, atransition coach and a catalyst
for women who are ready to raisethe bar in their own lives.
(00:53):
And you can find me onreInventimpossible.com.
Dr.
Prudence Hall is an OBGYN, anauthor and founder of the Hall
Center, where she's helpedthousands of women restore
balance, vitality, and purposein every stage of their lives.
(01:14):
Dr.
Hall blends traditionalmedicine with spiritual wisdom.
And her book, Radiant Again andForever, has inspired women
throughout the world to findresilience, purpose, and passion
for life.
So keep listening and welcome,Prudence.
Dr Prudence Hall (01:34):
Thank you, Beverly.
Thank you.
Happy to be here.
Beverley Glazer (01:38):
Prudence, you grew up in a family of four
girls.
I cannot imagine.
Okay.
What was it like having thosethree other sisters?
Was there a lot of rivalry?
Dr Prudence Hall (01:52):
Well, there was a little bit of competition,
I would say.
And that's been carried into myadult life, which I'm
modulating tremendously becauseit's always cooperation rather
than competition that createsthe most magnificent product or
relationships.
I was raised in an intellectualfamily.
My father was the provost of uhCollege Five, which was the
(02:14):
fine arts college at UC SantaCruz.
And I went to UC Santa Cruz,and um it was a family with lots
of engagement, lots of talking,uh, ideas.
And uh having sisters was justuh uh they're my dear, dear
friends now, and my my youngestbrother also.
But it was it was such aprivilege to have women to
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really go through all of ourdifferent stages with.
It was it was amazing.
Beverley Glazer (02:43):
Yeah, I always wanted a sister, never got that.
Uh it's um it, you know, itwhat you miss would be all that
camaraderie, you know, the stuffthat girls share.
And being in the middle there,you must have had you know a
(03:04):
lot of compassion for each otherand understanding and dating
and going through all thoseprocesses is really quite
something, yes.
But you never intended on beinga doctor.
Um, you you know, most peoplegrow up with this path.
I want to be a doctor, I wantto be a nurse, in my case, I
want to be an actress, whateverit is, right?
(03:24):
So you never did.
And you went to Europe, andthat kind of changed your
trajectory.
What happened there?
Dr Prudence Hall (03:32):
It did.
So I was in high school inEurope with my family because my
father was on a uh sort of uhlong sabbatical, and then I went
back to I I went to UC uh SantaCruz for a year, and then I was
just like, I have to get backto Europe.
And when I in I studied uhphilosophy and religion in my
first year, no science classes.
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I had nothing to do withscience, science was cruel.
My science teacher killed mylittle baby bird I was trying to
save.
So I really had uh you knowthis kind of negative thinking
about science.
And I was in France, and a lotof my friends were doctors, and
and I thought, they're not sosmart.
What are they doing beingdoctors?
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And one New Year's Eve, we werein Andorra, and Andorra is
right between Spain and France,and we were drinking and
dancing, and we were playingabout who will we be next year
and forever.
And I was there saying when itwas my turn, I don't know
whatsoever.
And uh they said, Oh my god,Prudence, you're a doctor.
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You're you're a doctor, youcare about life, you're like us.
We we we we nurture life.
That's what you do.
And it's like, huh?
And then I looked back and ithad been every place in my life.
This love, this tendernesstowards life, wanting life to be
safe in my hands, and uh lovingto see how my little frogs lost
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their tails and became mylittle tadpoles, became frogs.
And it really at every juncturethey were saying you love life
and you want to help life tobecome full and and beautiful.
So I went back to UC Santa Cruzand and studied some science
that I actually was quite goodat in life.
Beverley Glazer (05:24):
And did your parents encourage you and say,
Yes, that's exactly where youbelong?
Dr Prudence Hall (05:29):
No, my father said, as the provost, he said,
look, no one in her no, it's sohard to get into to medical
school.
Just don't do it, give up thatthat concept.
And I looked at him, I said,Daddy, you are really
underestimating your daughter.
I will be a doctor.
And I knew it.
At that moment, I knew from thethought came the emotions of
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all the joy it would bring otherpeople in me.
And by golly, I went in andjust wowed them during the
interviews because I knew I wasalready a doctor.
And I was saying, how can I bethe best doctor?
That's what I want to know.
What is your experience tellingyou?
Just teach me.
So when I'm a doctor, I'm gonnabe really wonderful.
And I knew it.
(06:12):
Yeah, I knew it.
When you know it, you know it,Beverly, about your purpose,
don't you?
Beverley Glazer (06:15):
Oh yes.
.
And so they accepted you, I'msure, with open arms.
And and then you had thisexperience really, um, with this
woman that gave birth to eightchildren, and you were still
just a young doctor.
Tell us about that.
Dr Prudence Hall (06:35):
Well, I was a senior in uh in my residency
program, and that meant I wasalone on the floor with many,
many, many women giving birth.
And I oversaw the residents, sothere was a third-year
resident, a second-yearresident, then there were the
interns, the little medicalstudents that we didn't let
touch, you know, too many womenwithout the residents' hands
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being there.
And I was awakened in themiddle of the night.
I usually got about 30 minutesof sleep on that OB floor.
There were 30 women deliveringat once.
And they said, Prudence,prudence, prudence, come, come,
come.
And I jumped out of bed.
I I was never under, I wasdressed, I slipped on my UGS or
my clogs, I guess I was wearing,ran to the delivery room, and
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we had about eight deliveryrooms or more uh on that floor.
And there was blood every placein the delivery room.
And a woman was there in theposition where she had just
given birth.
The baby was in the cradle.
I glance, the baby was okay.
And the resident said, I can'tstop her bleeding.
I just can't stop her bleeding.
(07:41):
And so I called for type andcross for six units, get the
anesthesiologist here.
And I uh knew that I had to uhI said, Have you given her
methrogen?
Yes, methogen clamps everythingdown.
What else have you done?
I'm holding her uterus as soonas I let go, she's pouring out
blood.
So I knew I'm gonna tie off theuterine arteries and hopefully
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not do a hysterectomy.
Um, there was one mothermaternal death on our floor the
whole four years I was there,and it was exactly this scenario
where the woman was bleeding todeath, and the doctor had to do
a hysterectomy, and she died uhas complications of that.
So it's just like, now this issomething I would face all the
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time, Beverley.
I mean, I was always in thealert stage.
So the anesthesiologist camerunning.
We created the table into a,you know, into a surgical table,
we splashed her with betadine.
I slashed open her uh abdomen,you know, the vertical, low
vertical, and her uterus waslike a uh, it was kind of like
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jello.
I held it, you know, sutures,sutures.
I was tying off her uterinearteries so the blood could not
go to her uterus, and it sloweddown a little bit, and then I'd
let go of the uterus, moremethrogen.
Ivy and I was putting methrogeninto her uterus to clamp it
down.
Barely nothing worked.
Every single time that I wouldkind of let go, there was
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someone underneath the covers,and they'd say, blood pouring
out.
So I was holding her uterus forabout 15 minutes, and then it's
just like, guys, we're gonnahave to do a hysterectomy.
Or and she's how much bloodhave you been pouring in it?
I'd throwing three units intoher blood, and uh, you don't
want to get behind with theblood in those situations.
(09:23):
And I said, make sure we haveanother two units on top of the
six.
So at a certain point, I wasjust talking to Maria.
I said, Look, Maria, becausethat was her name, please.
You have eight other children,you have a beautiful baby here.
Just help me.
I need your help.
(09:44):
No response.
But suddenly I felt this lightcoming through my hands, and it
was almost like a lightningbolt, and the lights in the room
flickered, and people weresaying, What's wrong?
What's wrong?
And it's like, I was just likespeechless.
Her uterus contracted, I let goof it, it stayed contracted,
(10:04):
and we quickly uh sutured herup, sent her to the ICU, and I
felt like I had asked for help.
I had received help, and bygolly, I mean, there are many
dimensions to life as we knowit, and to life as we don't know
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it.
And that changed the way Ipracticed medicine.
I I realized that we have aspiritual age as well as a
chronological, biological, andpsychological age.
And that just tied perfectlywith my first year of the
university where I was studyingworld religion and and
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philosophy.
I mean, I was primed for it.
I used to listen to Alan Wattswhen I was 15 and 16.
Oh, was it Alan Watts?
Yeah, yeah.
And it was, it just changed theway, Beverly, that I I see
life.
And that started a big venue ofhow does this physical form
interact with consciousness?
(11:06):
And uh there's just less andless of me now, me, less and
less.
Beverley Glazer (11:14):
But you were still in the medical system.
And you had to see a lot, youhad to go through things that
perhaps you didn't agree with.
Tell us about that.
Dr Prudence Hall (11:30):
Well, it was still during the women's
movement.
Hopefully that's continuing.
I know that that that path isstill continuing, but I would be
asked to massage my senior'sneck to get coffee to, and I was
kind of lighthearted about it.
It's like, sure, I would getanyone coffee.
I can give a homeless personcoffee.
(11:53):
I certainly can bring coffee toyou.
So I I didn't take offense atthat, and I just would smile and
say, Oh, he likes me.
Okay.
There are not many women in theprogram.
And uh I didn't reallyunderstand how medicine should
be practiced until Jeff Bland,Dr.
Jeff Bland, uh, startedfunctional medicine.
(12:14):
And I did that 25 years ago.
Uh, and that's when I reallystarted seeing how misguided
Western medicine as it'scurrently practiced really is.
So in functional medicine, youlook what are the core
commonalities of disease?
And then how do you stop thosecore, like inflammation, stress,
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sugar, your metabolism?
How do you change those coreroot causes to have an outcome
that is an absence of disease?
And I started mixing that witha deep understanding and
reverence and love ofconsciousness or God or
whatever, whatever we want tocall it, and functional
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medicine.
And Beverly, it just lookingback at my medical practice, I
was taught one disease.
You know, here's one diseasewith one cause and one solution.
And we we know that heartdisease and most diseases now
have multifactoral, manydifferent causes, and that we
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have to look at all of thosecauses to actually successfully
get to the result that we want.
Um, and so looking back, I sawwell, I was given a simplistic
kind of mechanistic model of howthe body works.
And I know much better.
And we're still we're learningevery day.
I was at a big conference thisweekend with Jeff Bland and Dale
(13:43):
Redison.
He's the premier, beautiful uhAlzheimer's disease researcher
who says, you know, you don'thave to get Alzheimer's disease,
which is true.
And David Promutter and just alot of people in the field.
And um Jeff was saying, Dr.
Bland was saying, well,everything that we learned even
10 years ago isn't true with ourimmunology.
(14:05):
Even five years ago, there werebig, big new developments that
made everything else obsolete.
So being a lifelong learnerthat that I am, that I encourage
our visitors and viewers to be,is just um, you know, it's like
being in the present moment,being a lifelong learner.
Beverley Glazer (14:27):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
So tell me, what are the commonmisconceptions about exactly
what you're doing?
Hormones, hormone replacements.
You know, there's all thesetruths, there's all these myths
out there.
Take it, don't take it,estrogen, too much, cancer, you
name it, it's out there.
(14:48):
What would you say?
Dr Prudence Hall (14:51):
The field is rapidly changing.
When I started four decadesago, and this was around 1983,
1984.
Um, I had just returned fromFrance where I'd been living,
and they had bioidenticalhormones there.
I hadn't been taught that in myresidency.
I was taught use primeren, useprovera.
(15:12):
These are both uhnon-bioidentical hormones.
One is from the pregnanthorse's urine, and the other one
turned out to be a carcinogenthat, you know, was thought to
be progesterone that could be uhyou know used instead of the
real progesterone.
And um there was increasedbreast cancer with that.
(15:34):
So as soon as I realized thatmy patients were not doing well
on that, and they would, I wastaught, you know, do do one
blood value if they haven't hada period in a year, put them on
primer and a provera.
And that was about the that wasabout what I learned with that.
Um, infertility was way aheadof this, but this was management
of menopause.
And it was pretty basic.
(15:56):
And then I started hearing frommy patients, it's like, what do
you mean come back in a year?
I feel terrible.
And it's like, oh, you do?
And uh as they would share, Irealized, well, I'd better try
these bioidenticals that thatwomen in France were just
starting to use.
Um, bioidenicals are exactlythe same hormones that our body
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makes, whereas pregnant horses'urine, primarin, has 35
different hormones in it.
And I started bringing themback from France and using those
with my patients, and they werejust delighted.
And it's like, oh boy, I'dbetter see them in three months,
I'd better see them in fourmonths or two months.
And it just changed the wholeway I started practicing
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medicine.
And as I gathered data, it waslike there is research out there
showing that these are verysafe, that unlike the women's,
you know, the health initiativein 2001, the bioidenticals
didn't have increased uh deeppain thrombosis.
Uh, they helped to decreasestroke, heart attacks, they
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lowered the LDL cholesterol aswell as the subparticles of LDL,
Apo B, and uh LP little A.
Um, and I I just I startedspeaking about this, and I
became really quite a powerfulmouthpiece on Oprah and Dr.
Show and Dr.
Phil and many, many shows.
And then I was sanctioned bythe medical board.
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And they said, you cannotindividualize care.
You cannot say anything exceptthat hormones are for symptom
control and for bone density.
I said, but look at the data.
Here's the data.
And they said, we don't care.
And so a little bit as as uh,you know, pioneers get get get
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arrows in their back, and I wasdaring greatly with what I was
doing and really bringing allthis data and new stuff to the
world.
And so they silenced me,Beverly, for a while.
They they they I felt like Ihave to be very careful.
I'm in a completelyconservative risk, I would say,
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change averse uh society here.
And so I went underground andwith COVID, they had bigger fish
to fry.
You know, they they definitelywere, you know, had much kind of
different things to look at.
And uh, but one thing I justwant to say is that the icons in
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my field, for example, Dr.
Dale Bredison, he has beenhated and not recognized for who
he is.
And he's the greatest.
He's the greatest in the fieldbecause he went to the consumers
and he talked to people aboutAlzheimer's and how he wrote a
book for lay people and that hehe said that at the meeting uh a
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few days ago, that that madehim an outcast.
So this has happened.
Papo Nicolas, Dr.
Papo Nicolas, who was Greek,uh, they said that he was a sex
abuser of women because he wasdoing pap smears.
He put things in vaginas to dothe paps news.
The person who discovered D3vitamin D, their license was
taken away.
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So, you know, innovators uhreally can suffer a bit, and I
suffered a bit.
And it it was, you know, it wasit was part and parcel.
I was daring enough to to to dothat.
Now, now there's a huge uhpushback against testosterone in
women.
So now the FDA has said thatwomen cannot use testosterone.
(19:33):
But Beverly, it's it itdecreases uh hormone replacement
decreases all the majordiseases that women can face.
Stroke, psycholester, heartattacks, uh diabetes, uh,
hypertension, um, uhautoimmunity, all of these
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blossom as soon as we go intomenopause.
And cancers of all types aredecreased because hormones are
our body's software.
They really say, This is whatyou need to do, cells, this is
how you need to act.
And if you take water away froma plant, it'll die.
And menopause is a deathprocess.
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And bringing our hormones backto youthful and vital levels is
a regenerative life processwhere when women get their
energy back and their strengthback and their confidence back,
oh my God, Beverly, the purposesand the things they do at that
point are joyful and incredible.
Beverley Glazer (20:36):
So, would you say you should take bioedicals
for life?
Dr Prudence Hall (20:42):
So the medical board says take them for five
years.
And a lot of this data was uhcame out of Primurn in Prevera.
And by the way, there was a bigstudy on primern alone in 2021,
and the incidence of breastcancer was decreased just with
primern alone.
Now that's a crummy, that's acrummy hormone, and so it's it's
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better with the with thebioidentical hormones.
Um I have been on hormones forabout 24 years now, and I will
not stop it because the data forto maintain your brain, neuror
regeneration is so powerful thatI wouldn't want my brain to go
without it.
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And I wouldn't want mycholesterol to go up and and all
the inflammation markers to goup.
If it's 90% of cancers arebased in inflammation, then you
add stress to that, and youknow, cancers.
We really start to age inmenopause.
And I need this body, I need itfor another another bit of time
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here to continue this work.
So I I always tell women, youknow, you can come off of it if
you want.
Uh the it really does preventuh a lot of chronic diseases,
most chronic diseases, or itimpacts most chronic diseases.
I actually have only four womenout of thousands, I think it's
about 40,000, thousands of womenwho have had a heart attack.
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And one of them maybe didn'thave a heart attack.
None of them died.
They're all alive, they're allrunning around.
And of course, they're seeingcardiologists, and you know,
that that's when Westernmedicine is amazing in terms of,
you know, interventions foracute illness.
It's just amazing for that.
Um, and you know, I should havemany, many hundreds of deaths
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because I take care of anelderly population or an older
chronologically aged population,uh, as well as young people,
but a lot of, you know,70-year-olds, 60-year-olds,
75-year-olds.
It's a menopausal,perimenopausal uh population.
I should have so many more.
And I I the incidence of breastcancer in my practice is about
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one in 50, not one in seven.
But the data is out there.
Where we really don'tunderstand exactly is is it safe
to take estrogen if you havehad breast cancer?
And data is coming in quiterapidly for that.
Beverley Glazer (23:09):
Everything are we going to be changing?
And if it works for you, and ifyou believe in, I would say in
your doctor, okay, because youknow, and I'm looking at this
personally, really prudence,because I wanted to take
bioidentals.
I could not get them.
I was doing research at thetime where there was very little
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on the internet.
The internet was relativelynew, and I did that discovery as
well.
And what I was saying to mydoctor, who was male, I said,
uh, here I am.
I am a small white-skinnedwoman, small boned, and I don't
want to get osteoporosis, and Iwant a quality of life, and
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these hormones that you'regiving me are killing me.
And literally, it was horrible.
And when I found this, and Iasked him for a prescription,
and he says, Okay, I can give itto you, but it's gonna do
nothing.
And I came back because it wasone uh pharmacy here that did
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create them.
I uh came back with energy, Icame back feeling so good, and I
know from what you're sayingthat there is a change, but I
had to know in my own heart, Ihad to be proactive, and I had
to also talk to my doctor andfind a way.
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Today it's very easilyprescribed, you know.
Um they know, so uh at leasthere they know, but you cannot
just look at the medicalprofession and say you know
everything.
As a human being, you know yourown body, you know, and so it
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takes the doctor, it takesknowledge, it takes all kinds of
professions for you to be ableto trust in where your world and
your body is going to be goingin your life.
And uh yeah, there's so manythings that doctors are, you
know, that's their model.
That is what they do.
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They're supposed to do that.
But your responsibility reallyis to yourself, and everybody
has an instinct, and so on.
And really, you know, whatyou're doing is so powerful, and
your book and getting out thereand your clinic, and you also
had to reclaim your vitality.
(25:39):
You also had many life tests.
How do you keep that strengthand vitality when the world is
knocking you?
Like you lost your house,everything is but was falling
apart.
What do you do?
Goodness.
Dr Prudence Hall (25:53):
Well, I lost my house when the Palisades
fire, just to clarify things,along with uh several thousand
other people.
So as life arises, I accept it.
It's arising, it's happening.
And I don't argue with what ishappening.
Uh I just don't.
That relationship didn't workout with whatever.
(26:14):
Okay, that's what happened.
I I work very hard onrelationships and keeping them
uh healthy and everything.
But if something in thatsituation doesn't work out, I
accept it.
And it's like, so um goingforward, what might I best do to
bring joy and vitality tomyself now that this
relationship has failed?
What might I best do?
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So I ask myself questions thatare empowering questions, not
like, oh dear, you know, gosh,why did that happen?
What how would I how was Ideficient?
You know, what could I havedone to save my house?
Why did I not take anything outof the house when I was fleeing
the house?
You know, I mean the whyquestions are so cruel.
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And I am really loving tomyself and I treat myself in a
way like I did my children,which is that they're precious.
I've done a lot of work withtrauma, a lot of medical school
trauma, what I saw too.
So it's it's um it's it'stending to the body.
I exercise, I'm eatingbeautifully, uh, I am thinking
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thoughts that are empowering andpositive.
I'm I'm on a mission that Ilove.
Um I I bring joy.
At the end of this conference,they went around and asked the
panelist, what would you like tosay is the most important thing
that that you have that youwant to tell the audience?
(27:41):
And Dr.
Dale Bredison said, uh, tolove.
No, no, that that was anotherperson who said to love.
He said to bring joy into yourlife.
And it's just like, yes.
How do we, and it's music, it'sfriends, it's my partner, it's
it's uh it's being in service.
All of this is very uh joyful.
(28:03):
And uh, and you're you'reright, Beverly.
Hormones have tipped about fiveyears ago.
People started saying, oh mygosh, they do help to prevent
disease, they do change thephysiology.
Menopause is a death process.
Let's stay youthful.
So this field of aging hasgrown, and uh hormones are now
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very accepted.
And my patients are saying,Well, Prudence, you kind of knew
that about 20 years ahead ofus, and it's like, well, look,
it happens when it happens, andit takes about 20, 25 years to
bring data into the practice,into actual practice of
medicine.
So it's you know, we'll bejoyful together.
And I I hope you got yourhormones.
(28:46):
I'm glad you were Oh, I did.
Beverley Glazer (28:48):
I get them all the time.
No problem now.
Dr Prudence Hall (28:51):
Yeah.
Beverley Glazer (28:51):
So what can you tell women who are over 50 and
really do feel that their bestlives are over?
Dr Prudence Hall (28:59):
Okay, so first of all, your life is not over.
You have another 40 years,another 50 years, maybe another
30 years, but you have almosthalf of your life left.
And how you manage yourhormones as well as your
lifestyle will determine the thenext half of your life.
So be an advocate for yourself.
(29:22):
Learn about this.
There's some wonderful podcastsout there.
And get my book.
My book is free, guys.
It's online.
Just get it.
Suzanne Summers wrote theforward, and she really pushed
me to write this book.
And I wrote it.
So it's all about menopause andeach perimenopause, menopause,
low thyroid, low adrenals, andwe have to correct all of those
to really have you know ahealthy, vital body.
(29:45):
And to heal your trauma, youknow, get help with that.
And life, life in this plane isvery dense and traumatic, and
there's reactivity with that.
I mean, recently, with all thework I've done, I was talking
with my partner and we weretalking about the conference,
(30:07):
and he said something.
I said, Oh, no, no, it'sobesogens that we were talking
about.
He said, No, it's not.
And I said, Are you sure?
It's obesogens.
And he said, No, we weretalking about weight loss.
This was a brand new concept ofhow you lose weight and these
obesogens that are involved inthat.
I said, I bet you $5,000 thatI'm right.
(30:28):
And he said, I don't want tobring competition into our
relationship.
Please.
And I broke down into tears,just beverly, I just lost it.
And once again, I realized,okay, this is past trauma.
And even though I've worked onthat, it's past, it's past
trauma that causes that kind ofreactivity and it causes that,
(30:52):
you know, humans to be separatefrom each other.
And he just held me and said,I'm here for you, which was
beautiful.
He wasn't trying to fix it, I'mhere for you.
And and but when we heal ourtrauma, there are much less
instances like what happenedwith me.
I mean, I was in the fight, youknow, and it was just like,
God, what can I do to make ourrelationship the best it can
(31:15):
possibly be?
And he was right, it's notcompetition.
Yeah.
So that is, you know, we'renever done healing.
We're never done healing.
Beverley Glazer (31:24):
No, no.
Dr Prudence Hall (31:25):
We're the triggers.
Beverley Glazer (31:27):
Yes, and finding the joy, finding the
joy, that hug meant everything.
Dr.
Prudence Hall is an OBGYN, anauthor, and founder of the Hall
Center, where she helpsthousands of women restore
balance, vitality, and purposein every stage of their lives.
(31:47):
Dr.
Hall blends traditionalmedicine with spiritual wisdom,
and her book, Radiant Again andForever, has inspired women
throughout the world to findresilience, purpose, and passion
for the rest of their lives.
Here are a few takeaways fromthis episode.
Healing starts when you findthe cause, not only treat the
(32:09):
symptoms, your mind, body, andspirit are connected.
You need to take care of allthree.
And aging with purpose can beyour most powerful chapter yet.
If you've been relating to thisepisode, here are a few things
you can do for yourself rightnow.
First, schedule a health checkthat includes hormone testing
(32:31):
too.
Add one mind-body ritual.
Breath work, journaling, orgratitude.
This will reset your energy anddon't make excuses.
Do what you need to take careof yourself.
For similar episodes onreclaiming your health, check
(32:53):
out episode 110 of Aging withPurpose and Passion.
And you may also enjoy WellnessWednesdays, hosted by
gerontologist Sally Duplantier.
These free webinars featuretopics on healthy aging.com to
learn more.
And that link will also be inthe show notes too.
(33:15):
And so, Prudence, where canpeople learn more about you and
find your book?
It's out on the internet.
Where can they find you?
Dr Prudence Hall (33:24):
So the book is for free on my website,
thehallcenter.com.
I also have um uh Dr.
Prudence Hall as a website, andI I but that's under a little
bit of uh uh redoing right now.
And you just put your email in,and the book downloads to your
email.
All the copies of my bookburned in the fire.
(33:44):
I had them all at home.
Um, but that's okay.
I someone gave me a book thatI'd given to them, so I have one
copy, but it's it's it goesright to your email for free.
Um and I I I like YouTube asreally a better venue for the
knowledge that I have to share.
(34:04):
You know, there's someInstagram, there's my Facebook,
uh uh, but probably onInstagram, I'm probably on
YouTube, that's one of thebetter places to see me.
But come to come come to mywebsite and and uh there's a lot
of data on there and uh videosand things like that too.
Beverley Glazer (34:23):
Terrific.
Everything that Dr.
Hall has said is going to be inthe show notes.
So you're gonna get all thoselinks.
You can find all herinformation, and it'll also be
on my site too.
That's reInventimpossible.com.
And so, my friends, what's nextfor you?
Are you just going through themotions or are you living a life
(34:43):
that you truly love?
Get my free guide to go fromstuck to unstoppable, and that
will be in the show notes too.
You can connect with me,Beverley Glazer, on all social
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And celebrate life.
Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion, the
podcast designed to inspire yourgreatness and thrive through
life.
Get ready to conquer yourfears.
Here's your host,psychotherapist, coach, and
empowerment expert, BeverleyGlazer.
Beverley Glazer (00:33):
Have you ever met a doctor who treats the
aging process as an awakening?
Well, Dr.
Prudence Hall is that doctor.
Welcome to Aging with Purposeand Passion.
I'm Beverley Glazer, atransition coach and a catalyst
for women who are ready to raisethe bar in their own lives.
(00:53):
And you can find me onreInventimpossible.com.
Dr.
Prudence Hall is an OBGYN, anauthor and founder of the Hall
Center, where she's helpedthousands of women restore
balance, vitality, and purposein every stage of their lives.
(01:14):
Dr.
Hall blends traditionalmedicine with spiritual wisdom.
And her book, Radiant Again andForever, has inspired women
throughout the world to findresilience, purpose, and passion
for life.
So keep listening and welcome,Prudence.
Dr Prudence Hall (01:34):
Thank you, Beverly.
Thank you.
Happy to be here.
Beverley Glazer (01:38):
Prudence, you grew up in a family of four
girls.
I cannot imagine.
Okay.
What was it like having thosethree other sisters?
Was there a lot of rivalry?
Dr Prudence Hall (01:52):
Well, there was a little bit of competition,
I would say.
And that's been carried into myadult life, which I'm
modulating tremendously becauseit's always cooperation rather
than competition that createsthe most magnificent product or
relationships.
I was raised in an intellectualfamily.
My father was the provost of uhCollege Five, which was the
(02:14):
fine arts college at UC SantaCruz.
And I went to UC Santa Cruz,and um it was a family with lots
of engagement, lots of talking,uh, ideas.
And uh having sisters was justuh uh they're my dear, dear
friends now, and my my youngestbrother also.
But it was it was such aprivilege to have women to
(02:37):
really go through all of ourdifferent stages with.
It was it was amazing.
Beverley Glazer (02:43):
Yeah, I always wanted a sister, never got that.
Uh it's um it, you know, itwhat you miss would be all that
camaraderie, you know, the stuffthat girls share.
And being in the middle there,you must have had you know a
(03:04):
lot of compassion for each otherand understanding and dating
and going through all thoseprocesses is really quite
something, yes.
But you never intended on beinga doctor.
Um, you you know, most peoplegrow up with this path.
I want to be a doctor, I wantto be a nurse, in my case, I
want to be an actress, whateverit is, right?
(03:24):
So you never did.
And you went to Europe, andthat kind of changed your
trajectory.
What happened there?
Dr Prudence Hall (03:32):
It did.
So I was in high school inEurope with my family because my
father was on a uh sort of uhlong sabbatical, and then I went
back to I I went to UC uh SantaCruz for a year, and then I was
just like, I have to get backto Europe.
And when I in I studied uhphilosophy and religion in my
first year, no science classes.
(03:53):
I had nothing to do withscience, science was cruel.
My science teacher killed mylittle baby bird I was trying to
save.
So I really had uh you knowthis kind of negative thinking
about science.
And I was in France, and a lotof my friends were doctors, and
and I thought, they're not sosmart.
What are they doing beingdoctors?
(04:14):
And one New Year's Eve, we werein Andorra, and Andorra is
right between Spain and France,and we were drinking and
dancing, and we were playingabout who will we be next year
and forever.
And I was there saying when itwas my turn, I don't know
whatsoever.
And uh they said, Oh my god,Prudence, you're a doctor.
(04:38):
You're you're a doctor, youcare about life, you're like us.
We we we we nurture life.
That's what you do.
And it's like, huh?
And then I looked back and ithad been every place in my life.
This love, this tendernesstowards life, wanting life to be
safe in my hands, and uh lovingto see how my little frogs lost
(05:02):
their tails and became mylittle tadpoles, became frogs.
And it really at every juncturethey were saying you love life
and you want to help life tobecome full and and beautiful.
So I went back to UC Santa Cruzand and studied some science
that I actually was quite goodat in life.
Beverley Glazer (05:24):
And did your parents encourage you and say,
Yes, that's exactly where youbelong?
Dr Prudence Hall (05:29):
No, my father said, as the provost, he said,
look, no one in her no, it's sohard to get into to medical
school.
Just don't do it, give up thatthat concept.
And I looked at him, I said,Daddy, you are really
underestimating your daughter.
I will be a doctor.
And I knew it.
At that moment, I knew from thethought came the emotions of
(05:50):
all the joy it would bring otherpeople in me.
And by golly, I went in andjust wowed them during the
interviews because I knew I wasalready a doctor.
And I was saying, how can I bethe best doctor?
That's what I want to know.
What is your experience tellingyou?
Just teach me.
So when I'm a doctor, I'm gonnabe really wonderful.
And I knew it.
(06:12):
Yeah, I knew it.
When you know it, you know it,Beverly, about your purpose,
don't you?
Beverley Glazer (06:15):
Oh yes.
.
And so they accepted you, I'msure, with open arms.
And and then you had thisexperience really, um, with this
woman that gave birth to eightchildren, and you were still
just a young doctor.
Tell us about that.
Dr Prudence Hall (06:35):
Well, I was a senior in uh in my residency
program, and that meant I wasalone on the floor with many,
many, many women giving birth.
And I oversaw the residents, sothere was a third-year
resident, a second-yearresident, then there were the
interns, the little medicalstudents that we didn't let
touch, you know, too many womenwithout the residents' hands
(06:58):
being there.
And I was awakened in themiddle of the night.
I usually got about 30 minutesof sleep on that OB floor.
There were 30 women deliveringat once.
And they said, Prudence,prudence, prudence, come, come,
come.
And I jumped out of bed.
I I was never under, I wasdressed, I slipped on my UGS or
my clogs, I guess I was wearing,ran to the delivery room, and
(07:20):
we had about eight deliveryrooms or more uh on that floor.
And there was blood every placein the delivery room.
And a woman was there in theposition where she had just
given birth.
The baby was in the cradle.
I glance, the baby was okay.
And the resident said, I can'tstop her bleeding.
I just can't stop her bleeding.
(07:41):
And so I called for type andcross for six units, get the
anesthesiologist here.
And I uh knew that I had to uhI said, Have you given her
methrogen?
Yes, methogen clamps everythingdown.
What else have you done?
I'm holding her uterus as soonas I let go, she's pouring out
blood.
So I knew I'm gonna tie off theuterine arteries and hopefully
(08:01):
not do a hysterectomy.
Um, there was one mothermaternal death on our floor the
whole four years I was there,and it was exactly this scenario
where the woman was bleeding todeath, and the doctor had to do
a hysterectomy, and she died uhas complications of that.
So it's just like, now this issomething I would face all the
(08:21):
time, Beverley.
I mean, I was always in thealert stage.
So the anesthesiologist camerunning.
We created the table into a,you know, into a surgical table,
we splashed her with betadine.
I slashed open her uh abdomen,you know, the vertical, low
vertical, and her uterus waslike a uh, it was kind of like
(08:42):
jello.
I held it, you know, sutures,sutures.
I was tying off her uterinearteries so the blood could not
go to her uterus, and it sloweddown a little bit, and then I'd
let go of the uterus, moremethrogen.
Ivy and I was putting methrogeninto her uterus to clamp it
down.
Barely nothing worked.
Every single time that I wouldkind of let go, there was
(09:03):
someone underneath the covers,and they'd say, blood pouring
out.
So I was holding her uterus forabout 15 minutes, and then it's
just like, guys, we're gonnahave to do a hysterectomy.
Or and she's how much bloodhave you been pouring in it?
I'd throwing three units intoher blood, and uh, you don't
want to get behind with theblood in those situations.
(09:23):
And I said, make sure we haveanother two units on top of the
six.
So at a certain point, I wasjust talking to Maria.
I said, Look, Maria, becausethat was her name, please.
You have eight other children,you have a beautiful baby here.
Just help me.
I need your help.
(09:44):
No response.
But suddenly I felt this lightcoming through my hands, and it
was almost like a lightningbolt, and the lights in the room
flickered, and people weresaying, What's wrong?
What's wrong?
And it's like, I was just likespeechless.
Her uterus contracted, I let goof it, it stayed contracted,
(10:04):
and we quickly uh sutured herup, sent her to the ICU, and I
felt like I had asked for help.
I had received help, and bygolly, I mean, there are many
dimensions to life as we knowit, and to life as we don't know
(10:25):
it.
And that changed the way Ipracticed medicine.
I I realized that we have aspiritual age as well as a
chronological, biological, andpsychological age.
And that just tied perfectlywith my first year of the
university where I was studyingworld religion and and
(10:45):
philosophy.
I mean, I was primed for it.
I used to listen to Alan Wattswhen I was 15 and 16.
Oh, was it Alan Watts?
Yeah, yeah.
And it was, it just changed theway, Beverly, that I I see
life.
And that started a big venue ofhow does this physical form
interact with consciousness?
(11:06):
And uh there's just less andless of me now, me, less and
less.
Beverley Glazer (11:14):
But you were still in the medical system.
And you had to see a lot, youhad to go through things that
perhaps you didn't agree with.
Tell us about that.
Dr Prudence Hall (11:30):
Well, it was still during the women's
movement.
Hopefully that's continuing.
I know that that that path isstill continuing, but I would be
asked to massage my senior'sneck to get coffee to, and I was
kind of lighthearted about it.
It's like, sure, I would getanyone coffee.
I can give a homeless personcoffee.
(11:53):
I certainly can bring coffee toyou.
So I I didn't take offense atthat, and I just would smile and
say, Oh, he likes me.
Okay.
There are not many women in theprogram.
And uh I didn't reallyunderstand how medicine should
be practiced until Jeff Bland,Dr.
Jeff Bland, uh, startedfunctional medicine.
(12:14):
And I did that 25 years ago.
Uh, and that's when I reallystarted seeing how misguided
Western medicine as it'scurrently practiced really is.
So in functional medicine, youlook what are the core
commonalities of disease?
And then how do you stop thosecore, like inflammation, stress,
(12:38):
sugar, your metabolism?
How do you change those coreroot causes to have an outcome
that is an absence of disease?
And I started mixing that witha deep understanding and
reverence and love ofconsciousness or God or
whatever, whatever we want tocall it, and functional
(12:59):
medicine.
And Beverly, it just lookingback at my medical practice, I
was taught one disease.
You know, here's one diseasewith one cause and one solution.
And we we know that heartdisease and most diseases now
have multifactoral, manydifferent causes, and that we
(13:21):
have to look at all of thosecauses to actually successfully
get to the result that we want.
Um, and so looking back, I sawwell, I was given a simplistic
kind of mechanistic model of howthe body works.
And I know much better.
And we're still we're learningevery day.
I was at a big conference thisweekend with Jeff Bland and Dale
(13:43):
Redison.
He's the premier, beautiful uhAlzheimer's disease researcher
who says, you know, you don'thave to get Alzheimer's disease,
which is true.
And David Promutter and just alot of people in the field.
And um Jeff was saying, Dr.
Bland was saying, well,everything that we learned even
10 years ago isn't true with ourimmunology.
(14:05):
Even five years ago, there werebig, big new developments that
made everything else obsolete.
So being a lifelong learnerthat that I am, that I encourage
our visitors and viewers to be,is just um, you know, it's like
being in the present moment,being a lifelong learner.
Beverley Glazer (14:27):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
So tell me, what are the commonmisconceptions about exactly
what you're doing?
Hormones, hormone replacements.
You know, there's all thesetruths, there's all these myths
out there.
Take it, don't take it,estrogen, too much, cancer, you
name it, it's out there.
(14:48):
What would you say?
Dr Prudence Hall (14:51):
The field is rapidly changing.
When I started four decadesago, and this was around 1983,
1984.
Um, I had just returned fromFrance where I'd been living,
and they had bioidenticalhormones there.
I hadn't been taught that in myresidency.
I was taught use primeren, useprovera.
(15:12):
These are both uhnon-bioidentical hormones.
One is from the pregnanthorse's urine, and the other one
turned out to be a carcinogenthat, you know, was thought to
be progesterone that could be uhyou know used instead of the
real progesterone.
And um there was increasedbreast cancer with that.
(15:34):
So as soon as I realized thatmy patients were not doing well
on that, and they would, I wastaught, you know, do do one
blood value if they haven't hada period in a year, put them on
primer and a provera.
And that was about the that wasabout what I learned with that.
Um, infertility was way aheadof this, but this was management
of menopause.
And it was pretty basic.
(15:56):
And then I started hearing frommy patients, it's like, what do
you mean come back in a year?
I feel terrible.
And it's like, oh, you do?
And uh as they would share, Irealized, well, I'd better try
these bioidenticals that thatwomen in France were just
starting to use.
Um, bioidenicals are exactlythe same hormones that our body
(16:19):
makes, whereas pregnant horses'urine, primarin, has 35
different hormones in it.
And I started bringing themback from France and using those
with my patients, and they werejust delighted.
And it's like, oh boy, I'dbetter see them in three months,
I'd better see them in fourmonths or two months.
And it just changed the wholeway I started practicing
(16:42):
medicine.
And as I gathered data, it waslike there is research out there
showing that these are verysafe, that unlike the women's,
you know, the health initiativein 2001, the bioidenticals
didn't have increased uh deeppain thrombosis.
Uh, they helped to decreasestroke, heart attacks, they
(17:03):
lowered the LDL cholesterol aswell as the subparticles of LDL,
Apo B, and uh LP little A.
Um, and I I just I startedspeaking about this, and I
became really quite a powerfulmouthpiece on Oprah and Dr.
Show and Dr.
Phil and many, many shows.
And then I was sanctioned bythe medical board.
(17:23):
And they said, you cannotindividualize care.
You cannot say anything exceptthat hormones are for symptom
control and for bone density.
I said, but look at the data.
Here's the data.
And they said, we don't care.
And so a little bit as as uh,you know, pioneers get get get
(17:45):
arrows in their back, and I wasdaring greatly with what I was
doing and really bringing allthis data and new stuff to the
world.
And so they silenced me,Beverly, for a while.
They they they I felt like Ihave to be very careful.
I'm in a completelyconservative risk, I would say,
(18:07):
change averse uh society here.
And so I went underground andwith COVID, they had bigger fish
to fry.
You know, they they definitelywere, you know, had much kind of
different things to look at.
And uh, but one thing I justwant to say is that the icons in
(18:28):
my field, for example, Dr.
Dale Bredison, he has beenhated and not recognized for who
he is.
And he's the greatest.
He's the greatest in the fieldbecause he went to the consumers
and he talked to people aboutAlzheimer's and how he wrote a
book for lay people and that hehe said that at the meeting uh a
(18:50):
few days ago, that that madehim an outcast.
So this has happened.
Papo Nicolas, Dr.
Papo Nicolas, who was Greek,uh, they said that he was a sex
abuser of women because he wasdoing pap smears.
He put things in vaginas to dothe paps news.
The person who discovered D3vitamin D, their license was
taken away.
(19:10):
So, you know, innovators uhreally can suffer a bit, and I
suffered a bit.
And it it was, you know, it wasit was part and parcel.
I was daring enough to to to dothat.
Now, now there's a huge uhpushback against testosterone in
women.
So now the FDA has said thatwomen cannot use testosterone.
(19:33):
But Beverly, it's it itdecreases uh hormone replacement
decreases all the majordiseases that women can face.
Stroke, psycholester, heartattacks, uh diabetes, uh,
hypertension, um, uhautoimmunity, all of these
(19:54):
blossom as soon as we go intomenopause.
And cancers of all types aredecreased because hormones are
our body's software.
They really say, This is whatyou need to do, cells, this is
how you need to act.
And if you take water away froma plant, it'll die.
And menopause is a deathprocess.
(20:14):
And bringing our hormones backto youthful and vital levels is
a regenerative life processwhere when women get their
energy back and their strengthback and their confidence back,
oh my God, Beverly, the purposesand the things they do at that
point are joyful and incredible.
Beverley Glazer (20:36):
So, would you say you should take bioedicals
for life?
Dr Prudence Hall (20:42):
So the medical board says take them for five
years.
And a lot of this data was uhcame out of Primurn in Prevera.
And by the way, there was a bigstudy on primern alone in 2021,
and the incidence of breastcancer was decreased just with
primern alone.
Now that's a crummy, that's acrummy hormone, and so it's it's
(21:03):
better with the with thebioidentical hormones.
Um I have been on hormones forabout 24 years now, and I will
not stop it because the data forto maintain your brain, neuror
regeneration is so powerful thatI wouldn't want my brain to go
without it.
(21:24):
And I wouldn't want mycholesterol to go up and and all
the inflammation markers to goup.
If it's 90% of cancers arebased in inflammation, then you
add stress to that, and youknow, cancers.
We really start to age inmenopause.
And I need this body, I need itfor another another bit of time
(21:45):
here to continue this work.
So I I always tell women, youknow, you can come off of it if
you want.
Uh the it really does preventuh a lot of chronic diseases,
most chronic diseases, or itimpacts most chronic diseases.
I actually have only four womenout of thousands, I think it's
about 40,000, thousands of womenwho have had a heart attack.
(22:06):
And one of them maybe didn'thave a heart attack.
None of them died.
They're all alive, they're allrunning around.
And of course, they're seeingcardiologists, and you know,
that that's when Westernmedicine is amazing in terms of,
you know, interventions foracute illness.
It's just amazing for that.
Um, and you know, I should havemany, many hundreds of deaths
(22:31):
because I take care of anelderly population or an older
chronologically aged population,uh, as well as young people,
but a lot of, you know,70-year-olds, 60-year-olds,
75-year-olds.
It's a menopausal,perimenopausal uh population.
I should have so many more.
And I I the incidence of breastcancer in my practice is about
(22:53):
one in 50, not one in seven.
But the data is out there.
Where we really don'tunderstand exactly is is it safe
to take estrogen if you havehad breast cancer?
And data is coming in quiterapidly for that.
Beverley Glazer (23:09):
Everything are we going to be changing?
And if it works for you, and ifyou believe in, I would say in
your doctor, okay, because youknow, and I'm looking at this
personally, really prudence,because I wanted to take
bioidentals.
I could not get them.
I was doing research at thetime where there was very little
(23:34):
on the internet.
The internet was relativelynew, and I did that discovery as
well.
And what I was saying to mydoctor, who was male, I said,
uh, here I am.
I am a small white-skinnedwoman, small boned, and I don't
want to get osteoporosis, and Iwant a quality of life, and
(23:56):
these hormones that you'regiving me are killing me.
And literally, it was horrible.
And when I found this, and Iasked him for a prescription,
and he says, Okay, I can give itto you, but it's gonna do
nothing.
And I came back because it wasone uh pharmacy here that did
(24:16):
create them.
I uh came back with energy, Icame back feeling so good, and I
know from what you're sayingthat there is a change, but I
had to know in my own heart, Ihad to be proactive, and I had
to also talk to my doctor andfind a way.
(24:38):
Today it's very easilyprescribed, you know.
Um they know, so uh at leasthere they know, but you cannot
just look at the medicalprofession and say you know
everything.
As a human being, you know yourown body, you know, and so it
(24:58):
takes the doctor, it takesknowledge, it takes all kinds of
professions for you to be ableto trust in where your world and
your body is going to be goingin your life.
And uh yeah, there's so manythings that doctors are, you
know, that's their model.
That is what they do.
(25:18):
They're supposed to do that.
But your responsibility reallyis to yourself, and everybody
has an instinct, and so on.
And really, you know, whatyou're doing is so powerful, and
your book and getting out thereand your clinic, and you also
had to reclaim your vitality.
(25:39):
You also had many life tests.
How do you keep that strengthand vitality when the world is
knocking you?
Like you lost your house,everything is but was falling
apart.
What do you do?
Goodness.
Dr Prudence Hall (25:53):
Well, I lost my house when the Palisades
fire, just to clarify things,along with uh several thousand
other people.
So as life arises, I accept it.
It's arising, it's happening.
And I don't argue with what ishappening.
Uh I just don't.
That relationship didn't workout with whatever.
(26:14):
Okay, that's what happened.
I I work very hard onrelationships and keeping them
uh healthy and everything.
But if something in thatsituation doesn't work out, I
accept it.
And it's like, so um goingforward, what might I best do to
bring joy and vitality tomyself now that this
relationship has failed?
What might I best do?
(26:35):
So I ask myself questions thatare empowering questions, not
like, oh dear, you know, gosh,why did that happen?
What how would I how was Ideficient?
You know, what could I havedone to save my house?
Why did I not take anything outof the house when I was fleeing
the house?
You know, I mean the whyquestions are so cruel.
(26:56):
And I am really loving tomyself and I treat myself in a
way like I did my children,which is that they're precious.
I've done a lot of work withtrauma, a lot of medical school
trauma, what I saw too.
So it's it's um it's it'stending to the body.
I exercise, I'm eatingbeautifully, uh, I am thinking
(27:20):
thoughts that are empowering andpositive.
I'm I'm on a mission that Ilove.
Um I I bring joy.
At the end of this conference,they went around and asked the
panelist, what would you like tosay is the most important thing
that that you have that youwant to tell the audience?
(27:41):
And Dr.
Dale Bredison said, uh, tolove.
No, no, that that was anotherperson who said to love.
He said to bring joy into yourlife.
And it's just like, yes.
How do we, and it's music, it'sfriends, it's my partner, it's
it's uh it's being in service.
All of this is very uh joyful.
(28:03):
And uh, and you're you'reright, Beverly.
Hormones have tipped about fiveyears ago.
People started saying, oh mygosh, they do help to prevent
disease, they do change thephysiology.
Menopause is a death process.
Let's stay youthful.
So this field of aging hasgrown, and uh hormones are now
(28:25):
very accepted.
And my patients are saying,Well, Prudence, you kind of knew
that about 20 years ahead ofus, and it's like, well, look,
it happens when it happens, andit takes about 20, 25 years to
bring data into the practice,into actual practice of
medicine.
So it's you know, we'll bejoyful together.
And I I hope you got yourhormones.
(28:46):
I'm glad you were Oh, I did.
Beverley Glazer (28:48):
I get them all the time.
No problem now.
Dr Prudence Hall (28:51):
Yeah.
Beverley Glazer (28:51):
So what can you tell women who are over 50 and
really do feel that their bestlives are over?
Dr Prudence Hall (28:59):
Okay, so first of all, your life is not over.
You have another 40 years,another 50 years, maybe another
30 years, but you have almosthalf of your life left.
And how you manage yourhormones as well as your
lifestyle will determine the thenext half of your life.
So be an advocate for yourself.
(29:22):
Learn about this.
There's some wonderful podcastsout there.
And get my book.
My book is free, guys.
It's online.
Just get it.
Suzanne Summers wrote theforward, and she really pushed
me to write this book.
And I wrote it.
So it's all about menopause andeach perimenopause, menopause,
low thyroid, low adrenals, andwe have to correct all of those
to really have you know ahealthy, vital body.
(29:45):
And to heal your trauma, youknow, get help with that.
And life, life in this plane isvery dense and traumatic, and
there's reactivity with that.
I mean, recently, with all thework I've done, I was talking
with my partner and we weretalking about the conference,
(30:07):
and he said something.
I said, Oh, no, no, it'sobesogens that we were talking
about.
He said, No, it's not.
And I said, Are you sure?
It's obesogens.
And he said, No, we weretalking about weight loss.
This was a brand new concept ofhow you lose weight and these
obesogens that are involved inthat.
I said, I bet you $5,000 thatI'm right.
(30:28):
And he said, I don't want tobring competition into our
relationship.
Please.
And I broke down into tears,just beverly, I just lost it.
And once again, I realized,okay, this is past trauma.
And even though I've worked onthat, it's past, it's past
trauma that causes that kind ofreactivity and it causes that,
(30:52):
you know, humans to be separatefrom each other.
And he just held me and said,I'm here for you, which was
beautiful.
He wasn't trying to fix it, I'mhere for you.
And and but when we heal ourtrauma, there are much less
instances like what happenedwith me.
I mean, I was in the fight, youknow, and it was just like,
God, what can I do to make ourrelationship the best it can
(31:15):
possibly be?
And he was right, it's notcompetition.
Yeah.
So that is, you know, we'renever done healing.
We're never done healing.
Beverley Glazer (31:24):
No, no.
Dr Prudence Hall (31:25):
We're the triggers.
Beverley Glazer (31:27):
Yes, and finding the joy, finding the
joy, that hug meant everything.
Dr.
Prudence Hall is an OBGYN, anauthor, and founder of the Hall
Center, where she helpsthousands of women restore
balance, vitality, and purposein every stage of their lives.
(31:47):
Dr.
Hall blends traditionalmedicine with spiritual wisdom,
and her book, Radiant Again andForever, has inspired women
throughout the world to findresilience, purpose, and passion
for the rest of their lives.
Here are a few takeaways fromthis episode.
Healing starts when you findthe cause, not only treat the
(32:09):
symptoms, your mind, body, andspirit are connected.
You need to take care of allthree.
And aging with purpose can beyour most powerful chapter yet.
If you've been relating to thisepisode, here are a few things
you can do for yourself rightnow.
First, schedule a health checkthat includes hormone testing
(32:31):
too.
Add one mind-body ritual.
Breath work, journaling, orgratitude.
This will reset your energy anddon't make excuses.
Do what you need to take careof yourself.
For similar episodes onreclaiming your health, check
(32:53):
out episode 110 of Aging withPurpose and Passion.
And you may also enjoy WellnessWednesdays, hosted by
gerontologist Sally Duplantier.
These free webinars featuretopics on healthy aging.com to
learn more.
And that link will also be inthe show notes too.
(33:15):
And so, Prudence, where canpeople learn more about you and
find your book?
It's out on the internet.
Where can they find you?
Dr Prudence Hall (33:24):
So the book is for free on my website,
thehallcenter.com.
I also have um uh Dr.
Prudence Hall as a website, andI I but that's under a little
bit of uh uh redoing right now.
And you just put your email in,and the book downloads to your
email.
All the copies of my bookburned in the fire.
(33:44):
I had them all at home.
Um, but that's okay.
I someone gave me a book thatI'd given to them, so I have one
copy, but it's it's it goesright to your email for free.
Um and I I I like YouTube asreally a better venue for the
knowledge that I have to share.
(34:04):
You know, there's someInstagram, there's my Facebook,
uh uh, but probably onInstagram, I'm probably on
YouTube, that's one of thebetter places to see me.
But come to come come to mywebsite and and uh there's a lot
of data on there and uh videosand things like that too.
Beverley Glazer (34:23):
Terrific.
Everything that Dr.
Hall has said is going to be inthe show notes.
So you're gonna get all thoselinks.
You can find all herinformation, and it'll also be
on my site too.
That's reInventimpossible.com.
And so, my friends, what's nextfor you?
Are you just going through themotions or are you living a life
(34:43):
that you truly love?
Get my free guide to go fromstuck to unstoppable, and that
will be in the show notes too.
You can connect with me,Beverley Glazer, on all social
media platforms and in mypositive group of women on
Facebook.
That's Women Over 50 Rock.
And thank you for listening.
Have you enjoyed thisconversation?
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