August 6, 2025 • 35 mins
Your body isn’t broken—it’s trying to talk to you.
But are you listening?
When Andrea Nakayama’s husband was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer while she was seven weeks pregnant, her world shattered. What happened next would spark a global movement in functional nutrition—and a new approach to midlife health and healing.
In this powerful episode of Aging With Purpose and Passion, Andrea shares how deep grief led her to reimagine wellness, build resilience, and teach thousands to trust their body’s wisdom.
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🔹 Why one-size-fits-all health plans fail (and what works instead)
🔹 Andrea’s “3 roots, many branches” framework for lasting change
🔹 How to decode symptoms as messages—not flaws
🔹 What women over 50 can do right now to restore energy, balance, and clarity
Andrea’s story proves healing isn’t about perfection—it’s about partnership, personalization, and paying attention.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion, the
podcast designed to inspire yourgreatness and thrive through
life.
Get ready to conquer your fears.
Here's your host.
Psychotherapist coach andempowerment expert Beverley
Glazer.
Therapist, coach andempowerment expert Beverley.
Beverley Glazer (00:27):
Glazer, Imagine you're six months pregnant and
your husband has only six monthsto live.
Welcome to Aging with Purposeand Passion, the podcast for
women over 50 who are ready tolive life on their own terms.
Each week, you'll hear rawconversations, inspiring stories
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and get practical tools to helpyou reignite your own fire.
I'm Beverley Glazer and I'm atransformational coach and
therapist for women ready toreclaim their voice and break
free from what's holding themback, and you can find me on
reinventedpossiblecom.
Andrea Nakayama is the host ofthe 15-Minute Matrix podcast.
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She's the founder of FunctionalNutrition Alliance, and Andrea
leads thousands of students andpractitioners around the world
to offer better solutions forthe chronic illness epidemic.
She highlights systems, biology, root cause methodology and
therapeutic partnerships andhelps underserved people to
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reclaim ownership of their ownhealth.
If you're a woman who feelsburdened by life, you get ready
to be uplifted.
Welcome, Andrea.
Andrea Nakayama (01:52):
Thank you, Beverley.
I'm so excited to be with youand I love your mission Really.
You know, as I turn 59 andreally enter a new cycle of life
, I'm excited to be in theconversations that you are
hosting and leading.
Beverley Glazer (02:09):
Wonderful Welcome to the club.
Here we are.
When you were very young, youalways felt like you didn't
belong.
Why is that?
Andrea Nakayama (02:20):
That's such a good question.
I think I was quiet and shy anda creative and I didn't really
find my place in the world.
I felt more comfortable with mythoughts and my stories and my
creations and I had a veryactive inner imagination and I
couldn't really find the placefor it in the world around me.
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And you know, there's a pieceof that little girl as there is
with all of us as we age that Ireally am enjoying returning to
with a different light, adifferent sensibility.
Beverley Glazer (02:57):
It's true.
So my grandparents spent alltheir summers in the.
Andrea Nakayama (03:10):
Berkshires.
They were Jewish immigrants ofa certain generation.
A lot of their friends wereHolocaust survivors.
They were music lovers, butthey had gone through quite a
lot of hardship, not just inbeing immigrants to this country
as children but really strivingthrough the Depression era,
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finding their way in theirretirement or near retirement.
They bought a tiny littlecottage in the Berkshires.
So I grew up in New Jersey,they lived in New Jersey, but
they bought this little cottagewith all their savings in the
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Berkshires.
The Berkshires in Massachusettsis where the Boston Symphony
spends their summer and theywanted to be around music all
the time.
So they were ushers and programpeople so they could go to all
the concerts.
And I spent my summers, fromthe time I was three years old,
with them, first with my family,with my parents and my sister,
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and then, as I got older and mysister didn't want to go there
anymore, just me going there bythe age of 12 through when I was
18.
Age and being older, their lovefor each other, really entering
into a new season of life, butalso being surrounded by people
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my friend's parents who were inthe symphony doing what they
loved for a living.
So I can actually remember themoment that I was walking home
from the lake and realizing thatmy friend's parents did what
they loved for a living.
That was a new concept to me,because work wasn't necessarily
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what you were most passionateabout and, as a creative, I was
like wait a minute, there ispossibility here.
I was like wait a minute, thereis possibility here.
So I feel like the place, thespace, the relationships, seeing
that season of life beingsomething that was joyful and
fill with opportunity was a hugeinfluence on me.
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Beautiful story.
Beverley Glazer (05:41):
Thank you, and how did you meet your husband?
Andrea Nakayama (05:44):
I met my husband, my late husband, Isamu,
and, by the way, I was sevenweeks pregnant when he was
diagnosed, not six months.
So, yeah, he wasn't evenexpected to see our son born.
Isamu and I met in the 90sworking in a cafe in San
Francisco before both of ourcareers took off His as a
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software developer during thedot-com, dot-bomb era, and me in
book publishing and I didn'tfind my way to the healthcare
field until he was sick and thenmore so after he passed away.
But we met working in a coffeeshop in the San Francisco Bay
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area and you know it was kind ofmagical from the get-go but it
took us some time.
I think of that nine monthsthat we took before dating as
this like very precious, magicaltime with each other where we
were getting to know each otherand fall.
We were in love by the time weeven started dating.
Beverley Glazer (06:51):
And then you got the diagnosis.
Andrea Nakayama (06:55):
Yes, you were pregnant.
Yes, so this is after marriage.
This is we were together aboutfive years before getting
married and then a little over ayear before getting pregnant.
Beverley Glazer (07:06):
How on earth were you able to cope with that,
both of you?
Andrea Nakayama (07:11):
I mean, I think that the answer to that was
each other, like I think he Icouldn't have been through what
I went through with him if itweren't for him.
So I feel like he was my anchor, he was my guiding light.
He brought something out in methat enabled me to be who I was
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with him, but also who I havebecome, and that is it's a long
time ago now.
He died, in 2002.
So I really am able to see whatthat was and what that brought
out in me.
But we really created a bubbleduring that two and a half years
that he lived, almost two and ahalf years, while I was
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pregnant, while he was goingthrough many treatments and we
were doing many other adjunct oralternative or holistic
modalities to support inaddition to what he was doing
medically.
We were in this bubble that wecreated together.
That was so sacred.
It was really really a precioustime together where all the
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extraneous stuff of life kind offell away and we were still
living and having to do thethings, but we were dropped into
the essence of what matterslife, his life, the life that
was growing within me, like itwas just very, very precious and
all our time was spent together, kind of weaving this way
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forward.
So I would visit the possibilitythat he could die.
He's likely going to die, thisis a death sentence, but we
didn't live there, we lived inthis space together and that I
will tell you, beverly, like Iremember after he died I was
thinking I was my best self withhim.
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I don't know what to do.
I was my best self with Isamuand I slowed myself down and
realized the words I was sayingand I was saying I was my best
self and recognizing in thatthat that self is me, and so my
intention was and is to be thatbest version of myself that he
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brought out in me, in the methat I am today and you were 36,
and now you're a widow and anew mom.
Beverley Glazer (09:49):
Did you have any support moving forward?
Because, I mean my goodness,there was so much needed at that
time.
Andrea Nakayama (09:57):
Yeah, I don't live near family, his or mine.
If I had raised my hand andcalled at any time, family would
be here and they certainly werehere when I put myself back
through school and had to travelfor opportunities opportunities
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but the life that my son,gilbert, our son and I created
together was its own littlefabric of togetherness.
We figured things out in termsof being a twosome and I also
feel like it would have beenhard to do with another person.
I'm very fortunate that Gilbertis who he is and he watched me
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put myself back through school,grow a business, all of the
things.
We were able to do thattogether and I feel like I
didn't have a lot of support infamily or friends.
We were in a new city.
We moved to this house whenIsamu was sick.
I think he really wanted tolike make sure we were settled
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and in a home, so we moved fromthe San Francisco Bay Area to
Portland, oregon.
I didn't have a lot of friends,no family nearby, but we made
it work and I feel like part ofthat is my muscle, but I really
feel like it's mine andGilbert's muscle together and
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Gilbert's now 24.
And this is talking aboutseasons.
You know I've really beensitting with what it means to be
kind of done with a certainrole.
Of course I'm not doneparenting, but he doesn't need
me in the same way.
He's his own adult and so myrole shifts.
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But also my commitment to Isamuin raising our child is kind of
coming to an end.
So I've really been facing allthat I did hold, that you're
asking about, all of that beingso cellular to me and how I
start to step back and recognizethe muscle I did have to build
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and what I do with that musclenow I do with that muscle now,
and did you get into health whenIsamu became so very sick?
So I was already toying withnutrition because I wasn't
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feeling well.
I think it was the early stagesof what I now know is my
autoimmunity, my hypothyroidism,I have Hashimoto's.
So I think the early stageswere there and I was trying to
quote, unquote, control what Iwas feeling in my body.
I was also very passionateabout food and cooking.
So I went.
I have a bachelor of fine artsin my undergraduate degree and
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I'm a maker, like I said as alittle girl.
So when I was out of art school, out of design school, food
became the thing I made.
It was my happiness for myhands and my creativity.
So I was already into food.
I was noticing symptoms in myown body, trying to manage those
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with what I was learning inhere and there with food.
The internet was not what it istoday, so there wasn't a lot of
information.
And then when Isamu got sick, Idid my research thing that I do
and I started to see and therewasn't much.
It was books, it wasn't Google,but I was starting to see where
can we make a difference in?
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Not the brain tumor, but thebody.
The brain tumor lives in thebody the interventions are being
done to.
So I was thinking functionallywithout having the language for
it yet, and I think of that timeof Isamu's illness as kind of
my nutrition boot camp.
But that's before.
I put myself back through yearsand years of school, created a
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practice and a business.
None of that was even on myradar yet.
I wasn't even in the field ofhealthcare, worked in publishing
, was writing, not even thinkingabout health except my own, and
then his.
Beverley Glazer (14:16):
When did you realize you had to get out there
and teach people this stuff?
Andrea Nakayama (14:20):
Yes, that's a great question.
So it was still my passion fora very long time.
I was the person in ourcommunity, when Gilbert was
little, that made the healthy,yummy food right.
I was always showing up withthe desserts that people
couldn't believe were refinedsugar free and didn't have this
and that in it.
I was always creating thingsand looking for where there was
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more information.
Again, like when I think aboutwhat we have available to us
today in the store, ininformation, in blogs, in
cookbooks.
That was not available.
But I was always stretching theboundary and showing up like
that.
It was when a friend of mine wasdiagnosed with colon cancer and
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I was here in Portland, hadreconnected with some old
friends that were here inPortland, was part of a
community, and that communityhad a lot of naturopathic
physicians in it, and so Ithought, like they don't need me
doing anything, they don't needmy thoughts on food, but I kept
wanting to do something goingback and forth, and this person,
(15:27):
who was a natural, is anaturopathic physician who had
colon cancer, asked me.
She said everybody's going totake care of the family.
Will you create the plan for me, pre and post surgery, for how
I should eat, and so I thought,okay, I'll do my research.
I found a nutritionist and shewas like why are you not doing
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this?
And so I started to think, canI do this?
Is this something I can do?
I could, can I do this?
Is this something I can do?
And that's when I started tocreate the plan.
With a financial advisor, couldI put myself back through school
?
Cause I was a single incomefamily with a good career in
publishing.
I worked at home which wasgreat as a single parent for a
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company in New York, and Irebuilt.
Everything started.
What I thought was just goingto be a practice was having
results, so people were askingme to teach them.
I thought I would create alittle mentorship.
Now I've taught 9,000 studentsin 68 countries.
Could not have imagined thatwas what was coming.
Beverley Glazer (16:37):
Amazing.
So everyone today is concernedabout food one way or another.
As you know, there are so manydiets in every description.
Why do they fail?
Andrea Nakayama (16:49):
Fail.
Yes, they're not personalizedand they can be very restrictive
.
So a lot of times this is whatI call dietary theory.
So there's a place for thetheory and it might have been
studied in some really not clearand concise way that isn't
controlled right.
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So if we look at something likeintermittent fasting or a
ketogenic diet these verypopular trends these days those
are theories.
When we apply them to theparticular body, we're
overriding what that body mayneed.
So a ketogenic diet which ishigh in fat, if somebody doesn't
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have a gallbladder or they havedifficulty digesting fat, is
going to cause more harm thangood.
We also are using it for thewrong reasons.
The study behind those diets istypically not what we're using
it for.
If we think about intermittentfasting, there's actually more
books on intermittent fastingthan there are research studies.
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There are benefits to it, butagain, only in the right bodies
and at the right time.
If somebody has blood sugarissues or any other metabolic
issues that aren't being managed, or they have adrenal issues or
thyroid issues or they're notdoing it in an appropriate way
for their body, again it cancause more stress on the body,
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which can lead us in the wrongdirection.
So we have to understand thereason.
We are trying a dietary theorywhat are we aiming to do?
And recognize that a lot oftimes these diets are meant for
therapeutic reasons, and thosetherapeutic reasons mean that
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they should be done in atherapeutic setting where we are
supported.
But they've become things thatwe hear on Instagram or social
media or in the media or inbooks, and we're trying them and
they actually, again, can domore harm than good.
If our body isn't ready to makethose kinds of changes, then on
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top of that it becomes ashort-term thing.
Didn't work for me.
It's more problematic.
And then we're on this oldschool dieting bandwagon.
It's just has a different namethat's supposed to be healthy,
versus Weight Watchers or Atkinsor whatever we grew up with.
Beverley Glazer (19:16):
Exactly, exactly.
Yes, Now I love what you startsaying, which is functional
thinking.
How does that verse treating asymptom?
Andrea Nakayama (19:27):
Yes.
So the analogy that I like togive people to start thinking
about what's truly functional iswhat I call three roots, many
branches.
And the three roots, manybranches that I've designed
helps us understand that anysign, symptom or diagnosis is a
branch on the tree.
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It's an expression of what'shappening deeper within and in
our current medical model, whichI am not disparaging, there is
a place for this.
For sure they're going rightfor the branch.
How do I address the branch?
What's the protocol for thebranch?
How do I address the branch?
What's the protocol for thebranch?
So signs, symptoms, diagnoses,those signs or symptoms could be
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menopausal, they could beautoimmune, they could be
related to our gut or our brainor brain fog.
They could be diagnostic insome other way, something we're
experiencing like cancer orneurodegeneration.
Those are all branches In atruly functional approach.
What we do is recognize thereality that somebody is dealing
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with the branch but that we asfunctional nutrition counselors,
as patients, can focus ourattention elsewhere.
So down through the trunk tothe roots and even more so to
the soil.
So the three roots for me thatI always talk into, that are
true of any chronic sign,symptom or diagnosis.
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So not getting better, chronic,not just an acute thing like a
broken arm or an ischemic eventwith the heart, like not getting
better.
The three roots are always yourgenes, digestion and
inflammation, and all three needto be addressed in some way.
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It's not just one root, it'sthose three roots.
But then what gives us power aspatients is to think about the
soil that those roots live in.
So for the genes, the soil arewhat we call the epigenetic
factors, the factors that turnour genes on or off.
Our genes are not a lifesentence.
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We don't know what's expressedor what will express, and
genomics has taught us that wethought we knew more than we do.
So the epigenetic factors forour genes, our soil, our terrain
, is food, movement, environmentand mindset.
If we just spend our time thereand think what works for me,
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where do I need help withfiguring out what's right for my
body?
And I have ways of helpingpeople think into.
You know, with food you canthink of quality, quantity,
diversity and timing right.
So let's just pick one of those.
Diversity Eat more of therainbow.
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Eat a broader realm of foodsthat you know works for your
body.
Don't eat the things that youfeel like you're not sure about.
So I also have a yes, no, maybe, list, like what works for you,
what do you know doesn't workfor you and what are you unsure
about?
That also helps us talk to thepeople that we might be seeking
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help from about what our currentstatus is around food.
Beverley Glazer (22:50):
And what you say is a therapeutic partnership
.
Andrea Nakayama (22:55):
Yes, yes, that for me, you know, not thinking
of therapy in the way that youare doing therapy, but the
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therapeutic and the broadersense of the word is where we're
working together in partnershiparound what's happening with
your body.
So when we think about ourmedical model, we are often left
feeling like we're, you know, achild.
It's very pedantic how we go tosee the doctor, and what I'm
looking at is what happens notat the doctor's visit, but
between the doctor's visit whatare the things you're doing
every single day and how do youshow up even better for your
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medical appointments.
And that's where a functionalnutrition counselor is sitting,
in that in-between space, inthat gap, really being able to
help us understand what ishappening in the everyday and
what are the choices that we'remaking that can help with our
health outcomes not being bad orgood, but our particular bodies
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.
And part of that means thatthere are two experts in the
room when you are working with afunctional nutrition counselor.
So I'll just say me, myexpertise is in the functional
nutrition and understanding yourbody, your labs, your
everything going on in your life, and getting that out with
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motivational interviewing so Iunderstand more.
You, as the patient in the room, are also an expert and you
have an expertise in something Ican never have expertise in,
and that is you.
And if I don't make room foryou in the room, there isn't a
partnership and I'm missing keypieces of your story that are
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going to help me.
Help you not just by making aprescription or giving you a
protocol, but by trulyunderstanding what your
motivation is, where you areinspired to make a difference,
what matters to you, what paceyou can go at, what works for
you, what doesn't, what's workedin the past?
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Only you, the patient, knowsthat.
And the therapeutic partnershipreally manifests when we make
room for the patient to be apartner in their healthcare.
Beverley Glazer (25:18):
I love that, and I love that because what I'm
hearing throughout that threadis respect.
Andrea Nakayama (25:25):
Absolutely.
Beverley Glazer (25:27):
You know when you go to see the doctor.
You know a lot, yes, but whenyou are sitting behind that desk
and the white coat walks in,it's like I don't know anything.
Will you tell me what to do?
Yes, and so you open a windowso that people can talk about
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their struggles?
Yes, and so what you tellsomeone who feels but you don't
understand my struggle?
I've been doing this my wholelife.
I've struggled with weight.
I've gone on so many diets.
I know when clients have cometo me with weight issues or
alcohol issues or whatever theyhave come to me for it's like I
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have failed so many times.
You know why would this work?
Andrea Nakayama (26:16):
Yes.
So for functional nutrition,it's really understanding that
there's more to the picture Ifyou're trying something and it's
not working, and it's notworking and it's not working.
We haven't sat in the pause tounderstand what is the what and
what else is going on.
So, from a functional nutritionlens, one of the systems that I
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use is the functional nutritionmatrix.
That I use is the FunctionalNutrition Matrix, and the matrix
is a tool where we map theentirety of the individual to
see them more clearly.
It's modeled after theInstitute for Functional
Medicine's matrix, but it's anevolution of that tool.
And actually the podcast mypodcast, which I'm not producing
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anymore right now flips themodel from the person to the
topic.
So we might map magnesium ormethylation or mindset, and
we're looking at how everythingis connected.
We are all unique and allthings matter, so I'm just going
to break that down for a minute.
If we're looking at somethinglike addiction or resistant
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weight loss, there's usuallymore to the puzzle than the goal
itself.
So, physiologically, everythingis connected, which is the
center of my matrix.
Everything is connected.
I want to understand what elseis going on in your body.
Tell me about your healthhistory.
There are likely issues thatare related to your gut, your
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immunity, your metabolism, yourhormone.
Everything could be notaddressed, and so you're
treating it like a branch,weight loss resistant, when
there's something else going on,and so my job is to help you
understand where are the otherlevers that we may be bypassing
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in favor of the branch and thegoal that we haven't addressed.
So everything is connected isan important piece of the puzzle
.
The gut's connected to thebrain, the hormones are
connected to detoxification,which are connected to the gut
Systems.
Biology helps us understandthat picture.
Everything is connected.
We are all unique is where welook at the precision factors.
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So in functional medicine wecall them the ATMs, the
antecedents, the triggers andthe mediators.
My job is to sit with where youcome from?
Where were you born?
Do you know what order you wereborn in?
Were you breastfed?
How were you delivered?
When you were born?
What's happened in yourlifespan?
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Did you have a big trigger,like I did, where you lost a
spouse?
Or maybe you had some adversechildhood experiences or adverse
adult experiences?
It's not my job to address thosetherapeutically.
It is my job to understand thatthose things impact your
physiological function.
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And then your mediators arewhat make you feel better and
what makes you feel worse.
My job is ultimately to giveyou more of those mediators.
I want you to know this worksfor me, this doesn't.
So as we're working, we'reuncovering those.
So everything is connected.
We are all unique.
All things matter.
So we're looking through thelens of sleep and relaxation,
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exercise and movement, nutritionand hydration, stress and
resilience, relationships andnetworks those things also
impact that branch.
So I'm looking at thatphysiological function, the
signs, symptoms and diagnoses,and then I'm understanding that
we have to look at it from twodifferent flanks of that
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system's biology where you camefrom, who you are, what got you
here and what are you doingevery day, and how do we make
movement at the pacing that'scorrect for you to experience
change.
So we're flipping the scriptfrom you're experiencing
addiction or resistant weightloss and I've got the solve for
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that to wait.
You are Sally, julie, junewho's having resistance or
experiencing resistant weightloss or addiction.
Let's take a step back andappreciate the whole, because
there are unlocks in that moreholistic and broader picture.
Beverley Glazer (30:38):
One last word to everybody listening.
One last word to everybodylistening every woman over 50
who feels they lack energy,they're discouraged and I don't
even want to try because it'snot going to work.
Andrea Nakayama (30:54):
Yes, I mean one word, One word.
I want to.
I think the word I'm sittingwith recently is spiral from a
positive perspective becausethere are clues.
If we can tap back into theauthenticity of who we are, that
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will give us the hope to goforward.
It's never going to look likeit did 10, 20, 30, three years
ago, but there are little cluesin there that we can bring
forward with us in a new light.
Beverley Glazer (31:34):
Thank you.
What I'm hearing is we canalways make it better, always.
So don't give up hope.
Thank you, thank you so much.
So don't give up hope.
Thank you, thank you so much.
Andrea Nakayama is a functionalmedicine nutritionist, an
educator and a speaker whopioneers a movement to transform
health care into a system thatworks 15-Minute Matrix podcast
(32:00):
and the founder of FunctionalNutrition Alliance, leading
thousands of students andpractitioners to offer better
solutions to the epidemic ofchronic illness.
Here are a few takeaways fromthis episode Listen to your body
.
Stop chasing perfect.
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Just make small, insistentchanges to lead to your goal and
believe.
Believe that your body can healand that you're not broken.
You can keep growing.
If you've been relating to thisepisode, here are a few things
to empower yourself right now.
Just as Andrea said, choose onefood just to add, like perhaps
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it's a glass of water, orperhaps it's a handful of greens
and remind yourself that yourbody is not broken.
It's trying to tell yousomething.
So receive those signals, thosesignals For similar episodes on
(33:08):
food choices.
Check out episode 87 and 93 ofAging with Purpose and Passion.
And, if you love podcasts forolder women, the Late Bloomer
Living podcast inspires you tofind joy, embrace change and
live playfully at any age.
Every Wednesday, yvonne Marchesinterviews inspiring guests
who've dared to reinventthemselves and experts who
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provide valuable guidance onnavigating the unique challenges
of midlife and beyond.
Andrea, where can people learnmore about you your program,
your podcast, everything, yourcourses?
Where can they find you on theinternet?
Andrea Nakayama (33:46):
Yes, Andrea Nakayama, in all the places.
If you go to andreanakayama.
com, you'll see my currentwriting and that'll lead you
back to the FunctionalNutritional Alliance.
Beverley Glazer (33:58):
Terrific, and that link and everything else
that Andrea does is going to bein the show notes and that's
going to be on my site toothat's reinventedpossiblecom.
And so, my friends, what's nextfor you?
Are you just going through themotions or are you living the
life that you truly love?
Get my free guide to go fromstuck to unstalkable, and that's
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Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion, the
podcast designed to inspire yourgreatness and thrive through
life.
Get ready to conquer your fears.
Here's your host.
Psychotherapist coach andempowerment expert Beverley
Glazer.
Therapist, coach andempowerment expert Beverley.
Beverley Glazer (00:27):
Glazer, Imagine you're six months pregnant and
your husband has only six monthsto live.
Welcome to Aging with Purposeand Passion, the podcast for
women over 50 who are ready tolive life on their own terms.
Each week, you'll hear rawconversations, inspiring stories
(00:51):
and get practical tools to helpyou reignite your own fire.
I'm Beverley Glazer and I'm atransformational coach and
therapist for women ready toreclaim their voice and break
free from what's holding themback, and you can find me on
reinventedpossiblecom.
Andrea Nakayama is the host ofthe 15-Minute Matrix podcast.
(01:18):
She's the founder of FunctionalNutrition Alliance, and Andrea
leads thousands of students andpractitioners around the world
to offer better solutions forthe chronic illness epidemic.
She highlights systems, biology, root cause methodology and
therapeutic partnerships andhelps underserved people to
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reclaim ownership of their ownhealth.
If you're a woman who feelsburdened by life, you get ready
to be uplifted.
Welcome, Andrea.
Andrea Nakayama (01:52):
Thank you, Beverley.
I'm so excited to be with youand I love your mission Really.
You know, as I turn 59 andreally enter a new cycle of life
, I'm excited to be in theconversations that you are
hosting and leading.
Beverley Glazer (02:09):
Wonderful Welcome to the club.
Here we are.
When you were very young, youalways felt like you didn't
belong.
Why is that?
Andrea Nakayama (02:20):
That's such a good question.
I think I was quiet and shy anda creative and I didn't really
find my place in the world.
I felt more comfortable with mythoughts and my stories and my
creations and I had a veryactive inner imagination and I
couldn't really find the placefor it in the world around me.
(02:44):
And you know, there's a pieceof that little girl as there is
with all of us as we age that Ireally am enjoying returning to
with a different light, adifferent sensibility.
Beverley Glazer (02:57):
It's true.
So my grandparents spent alltheir summers in the.
Andrea Nakayama (03:10):
Berkshires.
They were Jewish immigrants ofa certain generation.
A lot of their friends wereHolocaust survivors.
They were music lovers, butthey had gone through quite a
lot of hardship, not just inbeing immigrants to this country
as children but really strivingthrough the Depression era,
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finding their way in theirretirement or near retirement.
They bought a tiny littlecottage in the Berkshires.
So I grew up in New Jersey,they lived in New Jersey, but
they bought this little cottagewith all their savings in the
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Berkshires.
The Berkshires in Massachusettsis where the Boston Symphony
spends their summer and theywanted to be around music all
the time.
So they were ushers and programpeople so they could go to all
the concerts.
And I spent my summers, fromthe time I was three years old,
with them, first with my family,with my parents and my sister,
(04:20):
and then, as I got older and mysister didn't want to go there
anymore, just me going there bythe age of 12 through when I was
18.
Age and being older, their lovefor each other, really entering
into a new season of life, butalso being surrounded by people
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my friend's parents who were inthe symphony doing what they
loved for a living.
So I can actually remember themoment that I was walking home
from the lake and realizing thatmy friend's parents did what
they loved for a living.
That was a new concept to me,because work wasn't necessarily
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what you were most passionateabout and, as a creative, I was
like wait a minute, there ispossibility here.
I was like wait a minute, thereis possibility here.
So I feel like the place, thespace, the relationships, seeing
that season of life beingsomething that was joyful and
fill with opportunity was a hugeinfluence on me.
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Beautiful story.
Beverley Glazer (05:41):
Thank you, and how did you meet your husband?
Andrea Nakayama (05:44):
I met my husband, my late husband, Isamu,
and, by the way, I was sevenweeks pregnant when he was
diagnosed, not six months.
So, yeah, he wasn't evenexpected to see our son born.
Isamu and I met in the 90sworking in a cafe in San
Francisco before both of ourcareers took off His as a
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software developer during thedot-com, dot-bomb era, and me in
book publishing and I didn'tfind my way to the healthcare
field until he was sick and thenmore so after he passed away.
But we met working in a coffeeshop in the San Francisco Bay
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area and you know it was kind ofmagical from the get-go but it
took us some time.
I think of that nine monthsthat we took before dating as
this like very precious, magicaltime with each other where we
were getting to know each otherand fall.
We were in love by the time weeven started dating.
Beverley Glazer (06:51):
And then you got the diagnosis.
Andrea Nakayama (06:55):
Yes, you were pregnant.
Yes, so this is after marriage.
This is we were together aboutfive years before getting
married and then a little over ayear before getting pregnant.
Beverley Glazer (07:06):
How on earth were you able to cope with that,
both of you?
Andrea Nakayama (07:11):
I mean, I think that the answer to that was
each other, like I think he Icouldn't have been through what
I went through with him if itweren't for him.
So I feel like he was my anchor, he was my guiding light.
He brought something out in methat enabled me to be who I was
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with him, but also who I havebecome, and that is it's a long
time ago now.
He died, in 2002.
So I really am able to see whatthat was and what that brought
out in me.
But we really created a bubbleduring that two and a half years
that he lived, almost two and ahalf years, while I was
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pregnant, while he was goingthrough many treatments and we
were doing many other adjunct oralternative or holistic
modalities to support inaddition to what he was doing
medically.
We were in this bubble that wecreated together.
That was so sacred.
It was really really a precioustime together where all the
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extraneous stuff of life kind offell away and we were still
living and having to do thethings, but we were dropped into
the essence of what matterslife, his life, the life that
was growing within me, like itwas just very, very precious and
all our time was spent together, kind of weaving this way
(08:46):
forward.
So I would visit the possibilitythat he could die.
He's likely going to die, thisis a death sentence, but we
didn't live there, we lived inthis space together and that I
will tell you, beverly, like Iremember after he died I was
thinking I was my best self withhim.
(09:08):
I don't know what to do.
I was my best self with Isamuand I slowed myself down and
realized the words I was sayingand I was saying I was my best
self and recognizing in thatthat that self is me, and so my
intention was and is to be thatbest version of myself that he
(09:33):
brought out in me, in the methat I am today and you were 36,
and now you're a widow and anew mom.
Beverley Glazer (09:49):
Did you have any support moving forward?
Because, I mean my goodness,there was so much needed at that
time.
Andrea Nakayama (09:57):
Yeah, I don't live near family, his or mine.
If I had raised my hand andcalled at any time, family would
be here and they certainly werehere when I put myself back
through school and had to travelfor opportunities opportunities
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but the life that my son,gilbert, our son and I created
together was its own littlefabric of togetherness.
We figured things out in termsof being a twosome and I also
feel like it would have beenhard to do with another person.
I'm very fortunate that Gilbertis who he is and he watched me
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put myself back through school,grow a business, all of the
things.
We were able to do thattogether and I feel like I
didn't have a lot of support infamily or friends.
We were in a new city.
We moved to this house whenIsamu was sick.
I think he really wanted tolike make sure we were settled
(11:05):
and in a home, so we moved fromthe San Francisco Bay Area to
Portland, oregon.
I didn't have a lot of friends,no family nearby, but we made
it work and I feel like part ofthat is my muscle, but I really
feel like it's mine andGilbert's muscle together and
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Gilbert's now 24.
And this is talking aboutseasons.
You know I've really beensitting with what it means to be
kind of done with a certainrole.
Of course I'm not doneparenting, but he doesn't need
me in the same way.
He's his own adult and so myrole shifts.
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But also my commitment to Isamuin raising our child is kind of
coming to an end.
So I've really been facing allthat I did hold, that you're
asking about, all of that beingso cellular to me and how I
start to step back and recognizethe muscle I did have to build
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and what I do with that musclenow I do with that muscle now,
and did you get into health whenIsamu became so very sick?
So I was already toying withnutrition because I wasn't
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feeling well.
I think it was the early stagesof what I now know is my
autoimmunity, my hypothyroidism,I have Hashimoto's.
So I think the early stageswere there and I was trying to
quote, unquote, control what Iwas feeling in my body.
I was also very passionateabout food and cooking.
So I went.
I have a bachelor of fine artsin my undergraduate degree and
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I'm a maker, like I said as alittle girl.
So when I was out of art school, out of design school, food
became the thing I made.
It was my happiness for myhands and my creativity.
So I was already into food.
I was noticing symptoms in myown body, trying to manage those
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with what I was learning inhere and there with food.
The internet was not what it istoday, so there wasn't a lot of
information.
And then when Isamu got sick, Idid my research thing that I do
and I started to see and therewasn't much.
It was books, it wasn't Google,but I was starting to see where
can we make a difference in?
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Not the brain tumor, but thebody.
The brain tumor lives in thebody the interventions are being
done to.
So I was thinking functionallywithout having the language for
it yet, and I think of that timeof Isamu's illness as kind of
my nutrition boot camp.
But that's before.
I put myself back through yearsand years of school, created a
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practice and a business.
None of that was even on myradar yet.
I wasn't even in the field ofhealthcare, worked in publishing
, was writing, not even thinkingabout health except my own, and
then his.
Beverley Glazer (14:16):
When did you realize you had to get out there
and teach people this stuff?
Andrea Nakayama (14:20):
Yes, that's a great question.
So it was still my passion fora very long time.
I was the person in ourcommunity, when Gilbert was
little, that made the healthy,yummy food right.
I was always showing up withthe desserts that people
couldn't believe were refinedsugar free and didn't have this
and that in it.
I was always creating thingsand looking for where there was
(14:44):
more information.
Again, like when I think aboutwhat we have available to us
today in the store, ininformation, in blogs, in
cookbooks.
That was not available.
But I was always stretching theboundary and showing up like
that.
It was when a friend of mine wasdiagnosed with colon cancer and
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I was here in Portland, hadreconnected with some old
friends that were here inPortland, was part of a
community, and that communityhad a lot of naturopathic
physicians in it, and so Ithought, like they don't need me
doing anything, they don't needmy thoughts on food, but I kept
wanting to do something goingback and forth, and this person,
(15:27):
who was a natural, is anaturopathic physician who had
colon cancer, asked me.
She said everybody's going totake care of the family.
Will you create the plan for me, pre and post surgery, for how
I should eat, and so I thought,okay, I'll do my research.
I found a nutritionist and shewas like why are you not doing
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this?
And so I started to think, canI do this?
Is this something I can do?
I could, can I do this?
Is this something I can do?
And that's when I started tocreate the plan.
With a financial advisor, couldI put myself back through school
?
Cause I was a single incomefamily with a good career in
publishing.
I worked at home which wasgreat as a single parent for a
(16:13):
company in New York, and Irebuilt.
Everything started.
What I thought was just goingto be a practice was having
results, so people were askingme to teach them.
I thought I would create alittle mentorship.
Now I've taught 9,000 studentsin 68 countries.
Could not have imagined thatwas what was coming.
Beverley Glazer (16:37):
Amazing.
So everyone today is concernedabout food one way or another.
As you know, there are so manydiets in every description.
Why do they fail?
Andrea Nakayama (16:49):
Fail.
Yes, they're not personalizedand they can be very restrictive
.
So a lot of times this is whatI call dietary theory.
So there's a place for thetheory and it might have been
studied in some really not clearand concise way that isn't
controlled right.
(17:10):
So if we look at something likeintermittent fasting or a
ketogenic diet these verypopular trends these days those
are theories.
When we apply them to theparticular body, we're
overriding what that body mayneed.
So a ketogenic diet which ishigh in fat, if somebody doesn't
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have a gallbladder or they havedifficulty digesting fat, is
going to cause more harm thangood.
We also are using it for thewrong reasons.
The study behind those diets istypically not what we're using
it for.
If we think about intermittentfasting, there's actually more
books on intermittent fastingthan there are research studies.
(17:53):
There are benefits to it, butagain, only in the right bodies
and at the right time.
If somebody has blood sugarissues or any other metabolic
issues that aren't being managed, or they have adrenal issues or
thyroid issues or they're notdoing it in an appropriate way
for their body, again it cancause more stress on the body,
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which can lead us in the wrongdirection.
So we have to understand thereason.
We are trying a dietary theorywhat are we aiming to do?
And recognize that a lot oftimes these diets are meant for
therapeutic reasons, and thosetherapeutic reasons mean that
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they should be done in atherapeutic setting where we are
supported.
But they've become things thatwe hear on Instagram or social
media or in the media or inbooks, and we're trying them and
they actually, again, can domore harm than good.
If our body isn't ready to makethose kinds of changes, then on
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top of that it becomes ashort-term thing.
Didn't work for me.
It's more problematic.
And then we're on this oldschool dieting bandwagon.
It's just has a different namethat's supposed to be healthy,
versus Weight Watchers or Atkinsor whatever we grew up with.
Beverley Glazer (19:16):
Exactly, exactly.
Yes, Now I love what you startsaying, which is functional
thinking.
How does that verse treating asymptom?
Andrea Nakayama (19:27):
Yes.
So the analogy that I like togive people to start thinking
about what's truly functional iswhat I call three roots, many
branches.
And the three roots, manybranches that I've designed
helps us understand that anysign, symptom or diagnosis is a
branch on the tree.
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It's an expression of what'shappening deeper within and in
our current medical model, whichI am not disparaging, there is
a place for this.
For sure they're going rightfor the branch.
How do I address the branch?
What's the protocol for thebranch?
How do I address the branch?
What's the protocol for thebranch?
So signs, symptoms, diagnoses,those signs or symptoms could be
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menopausal, they could beautoimmune, they could be
related to our gut or our brainor brain fog.
They could be diagnostic insome other way, something we're
experiencing like cancer orneurodegeneration.
Those are all branches In atruly functional approach.
What we do is recognize thereality that somebody is dealing
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with the branch but that we asfunctional nutrition counselors,
as patients, can focus ourattention elsewhere.
So down through the trunk tothe roots and even more so to
the soil.
So the three roots for me thatI always talk into, that are
true of any chronic sign,symptom or diagnosis.
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So not getting better, chronic,not just an acute thing like a
broken arm or an ischemic eventwith the heart, like not getting
better.
The three roots are always yourgenes, digestion and
inflammation, and all three needto be addressed in some way.
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It's not just one root, it'sthose three roots.
But then what gives us power aspatients is to think about the
soil that those roots live in.
So for the genes, the soil arewhat we call the epigenetic
factors, the factors that turnour genes on or off.
Our genes are not a lifesentence.
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We don't know what's expressedor what will express, and
genomics has taught us that wethought we knew more than we do.
So the epigenetic factors forour genes, our soil, our terrain
, is food, movement, environmentand mindset.
If we just spend our time thereand think what works for me,
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where do I need help withfiguring out what's right for my
body?
And I have ways of helpingpeople think into.
You know, with food you canthink of quality, quantity,
diversity and timing right.
So let's just pick one of those.
Diversity Eat more of therainbow.
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Eat a broader realm of foodsthat you know works for your
body.
Don't eat the things that youfeel like you're not sure about.
So I also have a yes, no, maybe, list, like what works for you,
what do you know doesn't workfor you and what are you unsure
about?
That also helps us talk to thepeople that we might be seeking
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help from about what our currentstatus is around food.
Beverley Glazer (22:50):
And what you say is a therapeutic partnership
.
Andrea Nakayama (22:55):
Yes, yes, that for me, you know, not thinking
of therapy in the way that youare doing therapy, but the
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therapeutic and the broadersense of the word is where we're
working together in partnershiparound what's happening with
your body.
So when we think about ourmedical model, we are often left
feeling like we're, you know, achild.
It's very pedantic how we go tosee the doctor, and what I'm
looking at is what happens notat the doctor's visit, but
between the doctor's visit whatare the things you're doing
every single day and how do youshow up even better for your
(23:38):
medical appointments.
And that's where a functionalnutrition counselor is sitting,
in that in-between space, inthat gap, really being able to
help us understand what ishappening in the everyday and
what are the choices that we'remaking that can help with our
health outcomes not being bad orgood, but our particular bodies
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.
And part of that means thatthere are two experts in the
room when you are working with afunctional nutrition counselor.
So I'll just say me, myexpertise is in the functional
nutrition and understanding yourbody, your labs, your
everything going on in your life, and getting that out with
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motivational interviewing so Iunderstand more.
You, as the patient in the room, are also an expert and you
have an expertise in something Ican never have expertise in,
and that is you.
And if I don't make room foryou in the room, there isn't a
partnership and I'm missing keypieces of your story that are
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going to help me.
Help you not just by making aprescription or giving you a
protocol, but by trulyunderstanding what your
motivation is, where you areinspired to make a difference,
what matters to you, what paceyou can go at, what works for
you, what doesn't, what's workedin the past?
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Only you, the patient, knowsthat.
And the therapeutic partnershipreally manifests when we make
room for the patient to be apartner in their healthcare.
Beverley Glazer (25:18):
I love that, and I love that because what I'm
hearing throughout that threadis respect.
Andrea Nakayama (25:25):
Absolutely.
Beverley Glazer (25:27):
You know when you go to see the doctor.
You know a lot, yes, but whenyou are sitting behind that desk
and the white coat walks in,it's like I don't know anything.
Will you tell me what to do?
Yes, and so you open a windowso that people can talk about
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their struggles?
Yes, and so what you tellsomeone who feels but you don't
understand my struggle?
I've been doing this my wholelife.
I've struggled with weight.
I've gone on so many diets.
I know when clients have cometo me with weight issues or
alcohol issues or whatever theyhave come to me for it's like I
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have failed so many times.
You know why would this work?
Andrea Nakayama (26:16):
Yes.
So for functional nutrition,it's really understanding that
there's more to the picture Ifyou're trying something and it's
not working, and it's notworking and it's not working.
We haven't sat in the pause tounderstand what is the what and
what else is going on.
So, from a functional nutritionlens, one of the systems that I
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use is the functional nutritionmatrix.
That I use is the FunctionalNutrition Matrix, and the matrix
is a tool where we map theentirety of the individual to
see them more clearly.
It's modeled after theInstitute for Functional
Medicine's matrix, but it's anevolution of that tool.
And actually the podcast mypodcast, which I'm not producing
(26:59):
anymore right now flips themodel from the person to the
topic.
So we might map magnesium ormethylation or mindset, and
we're looking at how everythingis connected.
We are all unique and allthings matter, so I'm just going
to break that down for a minute.
If we're looking at somethinglike addiction or resistant
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weight loss, there's usuallymore to the puzzle than the goal
itself.
So, physiologically, everythingis connected, which is the
center of my matrix.
Everything is connected.
I want to understand what elseis going on in your body.
Tell me about your healthhistory.
There are likely issues thatare related to your gut, your
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immunity, your metabolism, yourhormone.
Everything could be notaddressed, and so you're
treating it like a branch,weight loss resistant, when
there's something else going on,and so my job is to help you
understand where are the otherlevers that we may be bypassing
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in favor of the branch and thegoal that we haven't addressed.
So everything is connected isan important piece of the puzzle
.
The gut's connected to thebrain, the hormones are
connected to detoxification,which are connected to the gut
Systems.
Biology helps us understandthat picture.
Everything is connected.
We are all unique is where welook at the precision factors.
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So in functional medicine wecall them the ATMs, the
antecedents, the triggers andthe mediators.
My job is to sit with where youcome from?
Where were you born?
Do you know what order you wereborn in?
Were you breastfed?
How were you delivered?
When you were born?
What's happened in yourlifespan?
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Did you have a big trigger,like I did, where you lost a
spouse?
Or maybe you had some adversechildhood experiences or adverse
adult experiences?
It's not my job to address thosetherapeutically.
It is my job to understand thatthose things impact your
physiological function.
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And then your mediators arewhat make you feel better and
what makes you feel worse.
My job is ultimately to giveyou more of those mediators.
I want you to know this worksfor me, this doesn't.
So as we're working, we'reuncovering those.
So everything is connected.
We are all unique.
All things matter.
So we're looking through thelens of sleep and relaxation,
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exercise and movement, nutritionand hydration, stress and
resilience, relationships andnetworks those things also
impact that branch.
So I'm looking at thatphysiological function, the
signs, symptoms and diagnoses,and then I'm understanding that
we have to look at it from twodifferent flanks of that
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system's biology where you camefrom, who you are, what got you
here and what are you doingevery day, and how do we make
movement at the pacing that'scorrect for you to experience
change.
So we're flipping the scriptfrom you're experiencing
addiction or resistant weightloss and I've got the solve for
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that to wait.
You are Sally, julie, junewho's having resistance or
experiencing resistant weightloss or addiction.
Let's take a step back andappreciate the whole, because
there are unlocks in that moreholistic and broader picture.
Beverley Glazer (30:38):
One last word to everybody listening.
One last word to everybodylistening every woman over 50
who feels they lack energy,they're discouraged and I don't
even want to try because it'snot going to work.
Andrea Nakayama (30:54):
Yes, I mean one word, One word.
I want to.
I think the word I'm sittingwith recently is spiral from a
positive perspective becausethere are clues.
If we can tap back into theauthenticity of who we are, that
(31:19):
will give us the hope to goforward.
It's never going to look likeit did 10, 20, 30, three years
ago, but there are little cluesin there that we can bring
forward with us in a new light.
Beverley Glazer (31:34):
Thank you.
What I'm hearing is we canalways make it better, always.
So don't give up hope.
Thank you, thank you so much.
So don't give up hope.
Thank you, thank you so much.
Andrea Nakayama is a functionalmedicine nutritionist, an
educator and a speaker whopioneers a movement to transform
health care into a system thatworks 15-Minute Matrix podcast
(32:00):
and the founder of FunctionalNutrition Alliance, leading
thousands of students andpractitioners to offer better
solutions to the epidemic ofchronic illness.
Here are a few takeaways fromthis episode Listen to your body
.
Stop chasing perfect.
(32:21):
Just make small, insistentchanges to lead to your goal and
believe.
Believe that your body can healand that you're not broken.
You can keep growing.
If you've been relating to thisepisode, here are a few things
to empower yourself right now.
Just as Andrea said, choose onefood just to add, like perhaps
(32:48):
it's a glass of water, orperhaps it's a handful of greens
and remind yourself that yourbody is not broken.
It's trying to tell yousomething.
So receive those signals, thosesignals For similar episodes on
(33:08):
food choices.
Check out episode 87 and 93 ofAging with Purpose and Passion.
And, if you love podcasts forolder women, the Late Bloomer
Living podcast inspires you tofind joy, embrace change and
live playfully at any age.
Every Wednesday, yvonne Marchesinterviews inspiring guests
who've dared to reinventthemselves and experts who
(33:31):
provide valuable guidance onnavigating the unique challenges
of midlife and beyond.
Andrea, where can people learnmore about you your program,
your podcast, everything, yourcourses?
Where can they find you on theinternet?
Andrea Nakayama (33:46):
Yes, Andrea Nakayama, in all the places.
If you go to andreanakayama.
com, you'll see my currentwriting and that'll lead you
back to the FunctionalNutritional Alliance.
Beverley Glazer (33:58):
Terrific, and that link and everything else
that Andrea does is going to bein the show notes and that's
going to be on my site toothat's reinventedpossiblecom.
And so, my friends, what's nextfor you?
Are you just going through themotions or are you living the
life that you truly love?
Get my free guide to go fromstuck to unstalkable, and that's
(34:21):
also going to be in the shownotes below.
You can connect with me,beverly Glazer, on all social
media platforms and in mypositive group of women on
Facebook, women Over 50 Rock,and I want to thank you for
listening.
Have you enjoyed thisconversation?
Please subscribe and help usspread the word by dropping a
(34:43):
review and sending it to afriend.
And remember you have only onelife, so live it with purpose
and passion.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Thank you for joining us.
You can connect with Bev on herwebsite.
Thank you for joining us.
You can connect with Bev on herwebsite, ReinventImpossible.
com.
And, while you're there, joinour newsletter Subscribe so you
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Until next time, keep agingwith purpose and passion and
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