May 28, 2025 • 28 mins
In this powerful episode, embodiment coach Toni Bergins shares how movement can serve as emotional medicine, helping us release trauma, pain, and repressed emotions stored in the body. Discover how JourneyDance Toni’s transformative dance practice, helps individuals heal by using movement to express what words cannot.
Toni’s personal journey from emotional repression to liberation through dance offers deep insight into how childhood experiences led her to unhealthy coping mechanisms, including eating disorders. She reframes eating disorders as emotional disorders —physical attempts to purge overwhelming feelings that have no other outlet.
JourneyDance provides a liberating and accessible way to reconnect with your body and emotions. This revolutionary practice is open to people of all ages and abilities, focusing on authentic self-expression rather than technique or performance. Whether you’re in a wheelchair or have full mobility, Toni explains how to modify movements to suit your needs, making it accessible to everyone. The emphasis is on how you feel, not how you look.
This episode is perfect for anyone feeling emotionally stuck, disconnected from their body, or seeking alternative healing methods. If you’re looking for a fresh approach to emotional healing and want to explore how movement can help release stored trauma and promote emotional well-being, this episode is for you. JourneyDance offers an empowering, non-verbal path to healing that can complement traditional therapy.
Listen to Toni Bergins as she guides you toward using the power of dance to unlock emotional healing and connection. It’s time to transform your relationship with your body and emotions—starting today.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion, the
podcast designed to inspire yourgreatness and thrive through
life.
Get ready to conquer your fears.
Here's your hostpsychotherapist, coach and
empowerment expert, BeverlyGlazer.
Beverley Glazer (00:30):
Imagine unlocking your emotional pain
through the simple act ofmovement.
Welcome to Aging with Purposeand Passion.
I'm Beverley Glazer, atransformational coach and
catalyst empowering women torewrite the rules, reclaim their
voice and create the life theywere meant to live, and you can
find me on reinventimpossiblecom.
(00:52):
Tony Bergins is an embodimentcoach.
She's a movement alchemist, aspeaker, an author and founder
of Journey Dance, a globalmovement that has enhanced
thousands of lives.
If you're feeling stuck orlooking for healing, or ready to
embrace your new chapter oflife, this conversation is going
(01:16):
to inspire you to rediscoveryour power the power of your
body, your mind and your spirit,no matter how old you are.
So keep listening.
It's a joy to talk to you, tony.
Toni Bergins (01:31):
Thank you so much for having me.
I just love your whole mission.
I love passion and purpose andwhen you said, rewriting the
rules of your life, I just lovethat so much because I'm doing
that right today as we speak.
Beverley Glazer (01:42):
Exactly, we are on the same page and you talk a
lot about pain, pain, pain,pain.
Did you come from a painfulchildhood at all?
Toni Bergins (01:54):
Oh, do I talk about pain a lot?
I'm curious.
Beverley Glazer (01:57):
Well, yes, we listen to pain through.
You know the emotions.
The movement Journey dance isall about that.
It's letting it go.
Toni Bergins (02:07):
Yes, um, I actually grew up in a, in a
household that was more how do Isay it?
Um, more repression thanexpression for some of us and
more expression than repressionfor others of us.
So certain members of thefamily were fully expressed in
all of their anger, pain, misery, and then I was more the
(02:31):
repressed one and then a superjoyful little child.
So I had to learn how tocompartmentalize all that was
happening around me at all times, and what it did was.
It made me an incredible thisis my gift of it.
It made me an incredibleobserver and able to hold big
spaces for people's big emotions.
But it didn't give me theexperience of expression of the
emotions until I discovered thedance and that's where I was
(02:53):
able to say, oh, I have so muchstored material that has never
been told, that has never beenexpressed, and I just verbally,
it just doesn't.
It's not the same for me asusing the body and the emotions
and the music and the expressionto release and move through
into this expressive form, wherethen it's heard by the dance
floor, by the other dancers inthe room, or just by yourself,
(03:26):
or just by spirit, whatever youwant to call that God mystical
being.
You know, and it's like I havemy my my most popular expression
is tell your story to the dancefloor, so it's not repeated
verbally to re-stimulate thetrauma over and over again.
It's moved through the spaceand then there's a feeling
afterwards of clarity, of relief, of actually exuberance that
(03:50):
you were able to like.
You know, after a good cry howwe feel after releasing anger or
tension.
We feel so much better and wedo it in a safer, kind of
contained way that isn't goingto impact our lives, our persons
, our people who we love in anegative way, which is what you
know.
My family of origin was a lotof explosive rage and then all
(04:11):
of us kind of running andscattering to our rooms in the
hideout and you know, later inlife I didn't really have good,
good, healthy ways to express myemotions.
So I learned to repress andthen I actually went fully into
the bulimia kind of realm wherethat is about what I learned
through my own study of my ownbody and many years of you know
(04:34):
all different kinds of study, oftrauma therapy and all the
different things that I was kindof an empath, I was taking in
all this material and I just didnot know how to process it.
I didn't have a way.
I did run I was a runner in myteens but that was like running
away, it wasn't running towardsyou.
And then the act of this bulimia, which is so common now, and we
(04:59):
look at it as like an eatingdisorder, and I actually think
of it as an emotional disordermore than an eating disorder,
and I actually think of it as anemotional disorder more than an
eating disorder.
I think of it as this is anemotional purge.
It's a way of letting all theemotions leave and then being
flooded with a positive you know, parasympathetic response.
So we become addicted to thecycle of the purge.
So it's different from the waypeople see eating disorders.
(05:19):
For me, it wasn't about youknow fat or thin or whatever the
proper words are for saying,you know overweight or healthy
or all the things that we'retalking about now, because
there's so much you know,there's so much material around
that is anything healthy orunhealthy anymore in terms of
you know all the different sizestuff.
But it was more about emotionalweight, emotional heaviness,
emotional not knowing what to do, confusion.
(05:42):
So, anyway, I'm giving you alot of my story at once, but I
think that all the upbringingleads us to these different
coping mechanisms.
And then that was the one Ichose.
And then, when it was no longerserving me and I felt like I
was just destroying myself, Istepped into a state of okay.
If I loved myself and trulyloved myself and didn't allow
all the negative programming torun my life, what would I do?
(06:05):
What different behaviors wouldI choose?
And the first one was oh, Ihave to stop.
First of all, I have to stopthis, have to stop the this
purge cycle.
Then I have to stop smoking.
I was smoking cigarettes at 16.
I was doing all the things.
I have to stop drinking, like Imean, I just like everything I
did was like anti me.
And I realized that, luckily atlike 23 and I started on this
(06:25):
total spiritual path.
Like I'm going to shift, I'mnot going to be that person, I'm
not going to fall into, youknow, abusive cycle for the rest
of my life.
So that's been my whole goal isto teach people how do you get
so into yourself, know yourselfso well on a self mastery level,
like I hate that word, but it'ssuch a good word so that I say,
oh, I'm feeling this feeling inmy in my solar plexus.
(06:53):
Ooh, I'm nervous, oh, I'mscared.
Or I'm excited, or I'm I'mafraid, or, or I'm sad, and I'm
not crying.
I'm thinking about what I atetoday.
Like I, I use everything aslike.
Okay, if I loved myself fully,which I do what would I do next?
What would I do next?
How would I change my behavior,instead of letting the behavior
run my life?
Because addiction is thatsimple you just all of a sudden
the cookies in your mouth andit's too late.
(07:13):
Now you're having 12, you knowwhatever it is.
So it could be anything frommedical you know pills to you
know, to all the differentavailable substances that we
have.
So it's almost like a choice.
I drew a line in the sand thatthis is my choice.
I'm going to make this choice,and then, of course, you change
your rules as you, as you evolve, right.
Beverley Glazer (07:36):
You didn't just fall into dance.
What you did was you were ateacher first.
You were following the yellowbrick road.
You did what you had to do.
You went to college, yeah.
Toni Bergins (07:48):
And first I was working in New York city as a
public relations person.
I was like trying to be in thecorporate world.
Oh, that was really rough forme.
I'm just not that person.
But I loved the experiment ofit.
But then, you know, then Ibecame a teacher, which I told,
which I did tell you.
And then, um, the dance thingwas for my own healing purposes.
You know, I went to KripaluCenter of Yoga and Health, which
(08:08):
is just a Mecca ofself-exploration, healing.
Um, it's a very popular, uhyoga center for many years and
there was a guru then and therewere so many pieces to that
puzzle that I won't go intoright now.
But, um, I had an experiencethat was an epiphany for me, one
of those you know catharsis.
You know catharsis of comingback, and the way I describe it
(08:29):
is coming back into the bodyLike I had been disassociated
for, you know, 23 years.
Beverley Glazer (08:33):
Right, so let me ask you, okay when did you
become, now, a dancer, aprofessional dancer?
You know, you were in New YorkCity when did you discover dance
?
Toni Bergins (08:46):
Yes, Well, I never considered myself a
professional dancer, but thisyou know cause I'm not.
I'm a professional dancer, butI'm not a professional dancer,
I'm not a bot.
I mean I took lots of classesand did all the things, but I
couldn't count past 12.
I was like I was in the class.
I'll never forget it.
I was like I found dance atKripalu.
I went to this dance class.
I'd always loved to dance.
I was a club girl.
I mean, I love dance.
(09:08):
Dance was my favorite thing inthe world and I did aerobics and
all that stuff During mybulimia years.
I was heavily into aerobics andthat was like Jack Lane back
then and like I was into likeJeff Martin studios and I went
to all the places where you hadto reserve your spot, you know,
because it was so competitiveand I loved that stuff.
I was very physical, but danceis different to me.
(09:33):
Dance.
When I went into this alteredstate of dance I was like, oh,
this is not the same thing asfollowing steps.
So I did experiment with Iwanted to be a professional
dancer.
Then I went to like I studiedjazz, I studied African, I
studied Afro-Haitian, I studiedballet.
I went to like Limon, I went toeverything in New York city and
I was like I would get to, Iwould do beginner and then I
would do a dance beginner andI'm like, nope, they're like
(09:54):
well, you got to count past 12.
You can't get.
So I'd be like one and two andthree and four, five, six, seven
, eight, and then they'd be onthe other side of the room and
I'd be like, oh crap.
So the guy was like you're soadorable, you're so great,
you're so physically, you know,ready for this.
But you're, you don't have thecount.
And then I realized, oh, thisis not what I want.
(10:14):
I don't want to be and I love.
Trust me, if I could have been,I would have been, but it
wasn't my path.
My path was to go into more of ashamanic, alchemic,
transformational, altered staterealm.
So then I went back to thatexperience I had and I said, oh,
I have to do this, I have to dofree dance with music and close
my eyes and go into States.
And then I slowly, over manyyears, after training, I trained
(10:37):
at Kripalu.
I trained with Dan Levin in1994.
I trained with um all thejourney, all the teachers at
Kripalu.
Um, I even did, I did somepartial training with Mega and
Niteshvar I trained with and Itrained with some of the most.
So it's just wonderful peoplewith incredible skills at
emotional, like how we bring theemotions to the dance floor,
(10:59):
where it's about the movement,not about the performance.
So there's no mirrors inanything that I do.
Beverley Glazer (11:04):
Now with Zoom mirrors, of course, but let's
talk now about Journey Dance.
And that is your baby?
Yes, and how long have you beendoing journey dance, teaching
journey dance?
This is a following.
Now, all over the world,thousands of people do journey
dance for everyone, listeningwhat is journey?
Toni Bergins (11:26):
dance.
So journey dance is a.
It's a process of embodimentand emotional empowerment,
expression and actuallyspiritual connection.
So it's a dance where I takepeople on a journey and I've
taught many I'm almost up to2000 teachers, which is just so
(11:46):
exciting I think we're at like1850 or something that I've ever
taken my training program, theteacher training, which is
different from all the otherprograms, but basically I teach
people how do you get into yourbody, how do you like roll
around on the floor and becomethis like creature that isn't
just a talking head or anemotional mess, right, we think
of ourselves in many cases aslike I'm just mental, or I'm
(12:08):
shut down emotionally, or I'm soemotional my stuff's all over
the place, I have no control.
How do you like step into thebody and say, okay, oh, I can
feel what's going on now?
It's a totally differentawareness to go from the head to
heart, to body.
So I start with embodiment,then I move into awakening.
How do we awaken our energy?
How do we become these vital,you know, like vibrant beings?
There's all this energy in thebody.
(12:29):
So I teach people how to awakenthe energy.
Then I go into thisself-hypnosis piece where I'm
helping people step in Like lookat your own hand, look at your
own, look at your, look at howyou move.
You're a beautiful creature.
You have to learn to appreciateyour body.
We go into appreciation, thenconnection with others If you're
dancing with others, or justconnection with all the
different.
You know rhythms and I bring inlike more rhythm.
And then we go into theemotional expression.
(12:50):
So there's a whole emotionalexpression component and it's
curated.
It's not a wild like everyonestarts screaming and running
around, you know crying.
It's not like that, it's a slowbuild.
Okay, how do I access what'sgoing on in my life?
So I say what's going on inyour life right now?
Tell your story of the dancefloor.
Then I bring in all kinds ofelements, kinds of elements you
(13:12):
know, is it grief, is it anger?
What is happening?
And then we express it throughthe music different types of
music for this section.
It's so beautiful, it's myfavorite thing.
Then I go into what I call thealchemy, which is transmuting
all of that, and saying, okay,how do I take all these emotions
and compost it right, turn itinto something good, turn it
into something.
Say what am I learning here?
What am I what?
How do I let this go and whatam I learning here?
What am I what?
How do I let this go?
And how do I see?
How do I transmute this intosomething like let's take, for
(13:34):
example, generational trauma.
Right here we are.
If you decide you want to healyour generational trauma, it's a
choice.
It's not, it's not like, oh,this is going to happen, no
problem, easy peasy.
I got this.
Now, this is a choice and it'swork.
So I say okay, across.
I am a game changer, so I'mgoing to stop the cycles of
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violence in my family.
I'm not going to perpetuatewhat's been, what's happened to
me from the past.
So we get us into the presentmoment by acknowledging the past
, embracing it, you know, reallyexploring it.
How is it?
How did it affect me?
But it's all nonverbal.
You know it's all on the dancefloor.
So I'm asking people so putthat old story into this fire
that we're going to create, intothis ceremonial fire.
(14:14):
We all have fire in our lineage.
Every culture has fire and howdid we use it?
In different ways, and everyculture has it.
Pretty much every people of theworld has used fire in some way
.
So I think that's a very gooduniversal archetype.
Beverley Glazer (14:32):
So, Toni, let me just stop you right here.
If somebody is coming to theclass, and is it only for young
people?
Is it for older people?
Okay, so what is the range ofpeople or the level of dance
that they need to know?
Can you just walk into the roomLike what happens, Walk us
(14:55):
through it step by step?
What is that about?
Because it can be very verythreatening for people.
Toni Bergins (15:01):
Yep, I'm taking you on that journey right now.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So here we are at Alchemy.
So any age exactly.
Toni Bergins (15:05):
So any age I mean I have, I mean I would say like
16 would be the low.
I mean.
There are kids that come but Idon't think they have a lot of
baggage to release.
So for them it's more just afun wild ride, like, wow, we're
dancing with scarves, you know.
But for people who are, youknow, at any age I mean I work
with people who are goingthrough transition One of the
(15:31):
things about Kripalu that I loveon Tuesday, you know, you'll
just be kind of like, okay, I'mgoing to trust that everything's
going to be all right and I'mgoing to just go for this and
there's nothing to be afraid of.
I've been doing it for 27 years.
You're good, and if emotionscome up, they're like going to
therapy.
You know, if you go to therapyor go to a coach, you know that
(15:55):
you're going to be challenged.
It's not like you're walking inthere for some easy, you know
cakewalk and you're going tohave the magic bullet.
You're going to have to go inand do the work.
So journey dance is verysimilar to that.
So here we are at the mountain,into the center, and then we're
all going to become theopposite.
(16:16):
What would the elixir of themountain be and we're going to
dance over it and it's justtotally free form.
There's no.
I do offer a lot of structure.
So there's movements.
I give movement suggestions soyou're not like just lost in a
sea of you know people, you'reactually.
You're being guided, you'rebeing gently guided through the
whole process.
So it's kind of like ahypnotherapeutic process.
And then, after we do ourtransmutation dance, where we
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like move this thing, we usethis fire element and we move it
into, we start to feel anecstatic joy and then we dance
with our heart.
We come into the heart and thenwe go into prayer, which I call
.
You know, I use the word prayer.
My religion that I grew up inis not really use that word, so
it doesn't have a lot of chargefor me, but a lot of religions
(16:59):
have a lot of charge around thatword.
But I still like that wordbecause it means to me that
we're saying I'm going to focusmy attention on something right
now.
That's all.
That's what prayer is to me.
What am I focusing my attentionand my intention on?
And I'll dance my prayer, slowmotion, super energy.
I teach people all about theirenergy body and then we go into
(17:20):
deep relaxation.
So it's got an arc like adouble arc to it and any age,
any level of ability, it doesn'tmatter.
You just modify to your own bodyor you push yourself into a new
, you know, a new level offitness.
You know if that's what youwant to do, you can go faster,
you can go slower, like it'svery modifiable for all bodies.
I do do a lot of floor work, soif you can't get on the floor
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then you can do that sitting ina chair or roll or leaning
against the wall.
So there are lots of differentmodifications you can do.
But it is a it is a dance form,so there is movement to it.
Some people do it from awheelchair and you know they
they do it with theirimagination.
Some people do it laying down.
I mean it has a journeyingquality as well.
So there's kind of two roadsyou could take if you're not a
(18:05):
quote dancer and you don't haveto be a dancer to do it.
It's more like you just have tobe willing to move, because
when you shake like we do,shaking we do.
I mean there's so manydifferent pieces to it, but all
of these somatics, all of thesethings have been proven now
somatically to create shift inthe body.
You know we did it all before.
There was all the sciencebehind everything.
You know I've been doing it foryears and years Now.
(18:25):
There's a science to everything.
So if you really if you want tofind the science, you can.
You can look up how everysingle movement affects the body
, from stretching to shaking, torolling and pouring.
I mean it's amazing.
Beverley Glazer (18:37):
Right, right.
So how does everybody feel?
I know the answer to this one,but when you're talking about it
, you just are.
You're in your body Everything,the movement, the feeling,
everything.
How do people feel when theywalk out of a class like that?
Toni Bergins (18:54):
Well, they definitely want to hug, I tell
you, they hug, they hug eachother, they hug me, they hug
their teacher.
There's so many teachers outthere.
They, they just feel incrediblyconnected, connected and
grounded and present.
Like at the end of class wasyesterday.
I said you just take thisfeeling, this feeling of
completely expressed self, likeyou know nothing held back, just
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just released, and they justfeel I said bring it into every
self what this feels like.
Maybe it feels like peace toyou, maybe it feels like love to
you, maybe it feels likeexpansion to you.
So I like to give people lotsof opportunity to make it their
own.
It's not like what I say orwhat the teacher says is what
you're going to feel, it's whatyou feel.
Some people cry and they haveto cry for hours.
They've opened up a valve of,of emotional release.
(19:39):
It needs to happen.
I think that's also veryhealthy and you know you modify
that.
You know you, you take care ofyourself, drink a ton of water
and you keep letting theemotions move through you.
I will say, in my personalhealing, I am, I was not a big
crier because I was very good atstuffing and compartmentalizing
.
I was stuffing with food I wasstuffing, the emotions I was
(20:01):
stuffing.
I can't go into all the storiesabout my family.
Many of them are still alive,so I love them.
I love them so much.
They're all still alive in mypersonal, my unit, my family
unit and I love them so much.
And I learned how tocompartmentalize.
I learned how to disassociate.
I learned how tocompartmentalize.
I learned how to disassociate.
I learned how to yell andscream.
I learned all the things right,we all learned.
But I chose I was going to besuper calm and neutral whenever
(20:24):
possible and only explode, likeif I didn't express myself.
Then I would sometimes explodeand I was not healthy for anyone
who I loved.
So I worked on this for yearsand years.
So for me to cry and have a bigrelease was such a big deal.
I know so many people I mean Iteach every single week, twice
or three times a week, and whenpeople cry they are so grateful
(20:46):
they're not angry that I madethem cry.
I made a joke the other day.
I said, yeah, I get paid tomake people cry and they all
laughed because people werecrying and it was getting very,
very emotional and when someoneelse cries it gives you
permission to cry and so on andso forth.
And crying is literally an actof releasing.
It's an act of releasing theemotional constraint on the body
(21:06):
, cause we're meant to flow.
We're meant to flow whetherit's anger.
Some people cry because they'reangry and they don't express
their anger.
So it gets.
You know, you know all this.
It gets twisted and morphed.
Beverley Glazer (21:15):
So you know all this as a as a very obviously
you're an experienced this iswonderful for people who are all
bottled, bottled up, for peoplewho just can walk into a room
it's not threatening and just totake the risk that you could do
(21:37):
something different and you canget some result out of it.
So I think the operative wordreally is take the risk.
You know, very often we've beento coaches, we've been to
therapists, we've been to somany different people to get
help We've read self-help books,all kinds of things.
(21:58):
This is another modality.
And not to get help We've readself-help books, all kinds of
things.
This is another modality.
And not to fear it and this issomething that I'm seeing as
well.
You know we can be verythreatened that we don't look
good, that our bodies aren'tgood.
People are looking at us.
We don't have dancers bodies.
So take the risk that you coulddo something different to
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liberate yourself.
And, as Tony said, you're nevertoo old and you can do this in
a wheelchair.
That's really something.
Thank you, tony.
Tony Bergins is a trailblazingembodiment coach, a movement
alchemist, a speaker, an authorand the founder of Journey Dance
(22:40):
, a global movement that hasenhanced thousands of lives.
For 25 years, tony has guidedpeople to release stored
emotions, break free fromlimiting patterns and to
reconnect to their authenticselves.
Here are some takeaways fromthis episode Let go of
(23:02):
perfection.
Give yourself the freedom toembrace who you are.
Physical movement can help youprocess emotions and feel
connected to yourself.
Set healthy boundaries.
Learning to say no is crucialto your peace of mind and
transformation and healing takestime, and movement is vital to
(23:25):
that process.
If you've been feeling stuck inyour life, here are a few
things that you could do rightnow.
Take a few minutes every day tomove your body, whether it's
dancing, stretching.
Just focus on how it feels andstop being hard on yourself.
Be more compassionate instead.
Take a deep breath when you'reoverwhelmed and give yourself a
(23:49):
moment to be grounded.
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That link is going to be in theshow notes, too.
So where can people learn moreabout you?
Tony, you have a book.
I think you have an audio bookas well.
Tell us you know your links.
(24:34):
Where can people find moreabout you?
Take your classes, find moreabout your facilitators when?
Toni Bergins (24:42):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
I just I, I, I adore you.
I think you're just amazing.
I'm so happy you're helping somany people take risks, cause
that was the key thing you saidwas to take a risk.
So take a risk and go check outeither journeydancecom or
tonybergenscom.
That's where all my book portalis located.
So my book is called embody,feel, heal and transform your
life through movement.
(25:02):
It's on audible and where allbooks are sold as well.
And I did do the audio, whichwas so what a practice, what a
process that was.
And I put music in it.
So I went and found all thisbeautiful music that I could
purchase and then play forpeople.
So if you do the audio, you canactually dance with me right
there, like in your car whileyou're driving.
Just keep your hands on thewheel and whatever.
Whenever you're listening.
(25:24):
And I do retreats as well.
I have a whole new programcalled Bucket List with Toni,
and we're doing Costa Rica,we're doing Portugal, we're
gonna do Greece, we're gonna goplaces and we're gonna dance
while we're in all theselocations.
I have my teacher trainingthat's coming up very soon.
If anyone's interested injoining us, we have cohort
groups that we take through awhole year transformational
process and people come out ofthat with such confidence and so
(25:45):
much self-love and then so muchability to serve and to step
into communities that need this,this kind of work, and there's
just so many, so manyopportunities to be of service
at this point in the world.
So so I say, why not turn your,turn your passion into you know
, something that you can reallydo in your life and spend time
on it, especially if it's danceor movement or even just
(26:06):
psychological exploration,because journey dance has a lot
of psychodrama mixed in.
And I do have a work that Icall sacred drama, where I take
people through sacred dramaprocesses where we unpack
material through theater, whichis, I'm all about take the
inside and put it on the outside, you know, like in a in a
different way from storytelling.
YeahAnd Right, so we can find you
(26:27):
online and I teach Journey everyDance Tuesday on zoom.
There's a whole journey danceand there's also all my teachers
not my teachers all theteachers are now being listed on
our new we have a new listingsite for them, which is gorgeous
.
It's being built right now aswe speak, and
Journey Dance website.
You type in facilitator.
(26:47):
that link, it's going to be inthe show notes and it's also
(27:47):
reinventimpossible.
com to be on my site too.
That's reinventedpossiblecom.
And so, my friends, what's nextfor you?
Are you just going through themotions or are you actually
living a life that you love?
Get my free guide to go fromstuck to unstoppable, and that's
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celebrate life.
Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion, the
podcast designed to inspire yourgreatness and thrive through
life.
Get ready to conquer your fears.
Here's your hostpsychotherapist, coach and
empowerment expert, BeverlyGlazer.
Beverley Glazer (00:30):
Imagine unlocking your emotional pain
through the simple act ofmovement.
Welcome to Aging with Purposeand Passion.
I'm Beverley Glazer, atransformational coach and
catalyst empowering women torewrite the rules, reclaim their
voice and create the life theywere meant to live, and you can
find me on reinventimpossiblecom.
(00:52):
Tony Bergins is an embodimentcoach.
She's a movement alchemist, aspeaker, an author and founder
of Journey Dance, a globalmovement that has enhanced
thousands of lives.
If you're feeling stuck orlooking for healing, or ready to
embrace your new chapter oflife, this conversation is going
(01:16):
to inspire you to rediscoveryour power the power of your
body, your mind and your spirit,no matter how old you are.
So keep listening.
It's a joy to talk to you, tony.
Toni Bergins (01:31):
Thank you so much for having me.
I just love your whole mission.
I love passion and purpose andwhen you said, rewriting the
rules of your life, I just lovethat so much because I'm doing
that right today as we speak.
Beverley Glazer (01:42):
Exactly, we are on the same page and you talk a
lot about pain, pain, pain,pain.
Did you come from a painfulchildhood at all?
Toni Bergins (01:54):
Oh, do I talk about pain a lot?
I'm curious.
Beverley Glazer (01:57):
Well, yes, we listen to pain through.
You know the emotions.
The movement Journey dance isall about that.
It's letting it go.
Toni Bergins (02:07):
Yes, um, I actually grew up in a, in a
household that was more how do Isay it?
Um, more repression thanexpression for some of us and
more expression than repressionfor others of us.
So certain members of thefamily were fully expressed in
all of their anger, pain, misery, and then I was more the
(02:31):
repressed one and then a superjoyful little child.
So I had to learn how tocompartmentalize all that was
happening around me at all times, and what it did was.
It made me an incredible thisis my gift of it.
It made me an incredibleobserver and able to hold big
spaces for people's big emotions.
But it didn't give me theexperience of expression of the
emotions until I discovered thedance and that's where I was
(02:53):
able to say, oh, I have so muchstored material that has never
been told, that has never beenexpressed, and I just verbally,
it just doesn't.
It's not the same for me asusing the body and the emotions
and the music and the expressionto release and move through
into this expressive form, wherethen it's heard by the dance
floor, by the other dancers inthe room, or just by yourself,
(03:26):
or just by spirit, whatever youwant to call that God mystical
being.
You know, and it's like I havemy my my most popular expression
is tell your story to the dancefloor, so it's not repeated
verbally to re-stimulate thetrauma over and over again.
It's moved through the spaceand then there's a feeling
afterwards of clarity, of relief, of actually exuberance that
(03:50):
you were able to like.
You know, after a good cry howwe feel after releasing anger or
tension.
We feel so much better and wedo it in a safer, kind of
contained way that isn't goingto impact our lives, our persons
, our people who we love in anegative way, which is what you
know.
My family of origin was a lotof explosive rage and then all
(04:11):
of us kind of running andscattering to our rooms in the
hideout and you know, later inlife I didn't really have good,
good, healthy ways to express myemotions.
So I learned to repress andthen I actually went fully into
the bulimia kind of realm wherethat is about what I learned
through my own study of my ownbody and many years of you know
(04:34):
all different kinds of study, oftrauma therapy and all the
different things that I was kindof an empath, I was taking in
all this material and I just didnot know how to process it.
I didn't have a way.
I did run I was a runner in myteens but that was like running
away, it wasn't running towardsyou.
And then the act of this bulimia, which is so common now, and we
(04:59):
look at it as like an eatingdisorder, and I actually think
of it as an emotional disordermore than an eating disorder,
and I actually think of it as anemotional disorder more than an
eating disorder.
I think of it as this is anemotional purge.
It's a way of letting all theemotions leave and then being
flooded with a positive you know, parasympathetic response.
So we become addicted to thecycle of the purge.
So it's different from the waypeople see eating disorders.
(05:19):
For me, it wasn't about youknow fat or thin or whatever the
proper words are for saying,you know overweight or healthy
or all the things that we'retalking about now, because
there's so much you know,there's so much material around
that is anything healthy orunhealthy anymore in terms of
you know all the different sizestuff.
But it was more about emotionalweight, emotional heaviness,
emotional not knowing what to do, confusion.
(05:42):
So, anyway, I'm giving you alot of my story at once, but I
think that all the upbringingleads us to these different
coping mechanisms.
And then that was the one Ichose.
And then, when it was no longerserving me and I felt like I
was just destroying myself, Istepped into a state of okay.
If I loved myself and trulyloved myself and didn't allow
all the negative programming torun my life, what would I do?
(06:05):
What different behaviors wouldI choose?
And the first one was oh, Ihave to stop.
First of all, I have to stopthis, have to stop the this
purge cycle.
Then I have to stop smoking.
I was smoking cigarettes at 16.
I was doing all the things.
I have to stop drinking, like Imean, I just like everything I
did was like anti me.
And I realized that, luckily atlike 23 and I started on this
(06:25):
total spiritual path.
Like I'm going to shift, I'mnot going to be that person, I'm
not going to fall into, youknow, abusive cycle for the rest
of my life.
So that's been my whole goal isto teach people how do you get
so into yourself, know yourselfso well on a self mastery level,
like I hate that word, but it'ssuch a good word so that I say,
oh, I'm feeling this feeling inmy in my solar plexus.
(06:53):
Ooh, I'm nervous, oh, I'mscared.
Or I'm excited, or I'm I'mafraid, or, or I'm sad, and I'm
not crying.
I'm thinking about what I atetoday.
Like I, I use everything aslike.
Okay, if I loved myself fully,which I do what would I do next?
What would I do next?
How would I change my behavior,instead of letting the behavior
run my life?
Because addiction is thatsimple you just all of a sudden
the cookies in your mouth andit's too late.
(07:13):
Now you're having 12, you knowwhatever it is.
So it could be anything frommedical you know pills to you
know, to all the differentavailable substances that we
have.
So it's almost like a choice.
I drew a line in the sand thatthis is my choice.
I'm going to make this choice,and then, of course, you change
your rules as you, as you evolve, right.
Beverley Glazer (07:36):
You didn't just fall into dance.
What you did was you were ateacher first.
You were following the yellowbrick road.
You did what you had to do.
You went to college, yeah.
Toni Bergins (07:48):
And first I was working in New York city as a
public relations person.
I was like trying to be in thecorporate world.
Oh, that was really rough forme.
I'm just not that person.
But I loved the experiment ofit.
But then, you know, then Ibecame a teacher, which I told,
which I did tell you.
And then, um, the dance thingwas for my own healing purposes.
You know, I went to KripaluCenter of Yoga and Health, which
(08:08):
is just a Mecca ofself-exploration, healing.
Um, it's a very popular, uhyoga center for many years and
there was a guru then and therewere so many pieces to that
puzzle that I won't go intoright now.
But, um, I had an experiencethat was an epiphany for me, one
of those you know catharsis.
You know catharsis of comingback, and the way I describe it
(08:29):
is coming back into the bodyLike I had been disassociated
for, you know, 23 years.
Beverley Glazer (08:33):
Right, so let me ask you, okay when did you
become, now, a dancer, aprofessional dancer?
You know, you were in New YorkCity when did you discover dance
?
Toni Bergins (08:46):
Yes, Well, I never considered myself a
professional dancer, but thisyou know cause I'm not.
I'm a professional dancer, butI'm not a professional dancer,
I'm not a bot.
I mean I took lots of classesand did all the things, but I
couldn't count past 12.
I was like I was in the class.
I'll never forget it.
I was like I found dance atKripalu.
I went to this dance class.
I'd always loved to dance.
I was a club girl.
I mean, I love dance.
(09:08):
Dance was my favorite thing inthe world and I did aerobics and
all that stuff During mybulimia years.
I was heavily into aerobics andthat was like Jack Lane back
then and like I was into likeJeff Martin studios and I went
to all the places where you hadto reserve your spot, you know,
because it was so competitiveand I loved that stuff.
I was very physical, but danceis different to me.
(09:33):
Dance.
When I went into this alteredstate of dance I was like, oh,
this is not the same thing asfollowing steps.
So I did experiment with Iwanted to be a professional
dancer.
Then I went to like I studiedjazz, I studied African, I
studied Afro-Haitian, I studiedballet.
I went to like Limon, I went toeverything in New York city and
I was like I would get to, Iwould do beginner and then I
would do a dance beginner andI'm like, nope, they're like
(09:54):
well, you got to count past 12.
You can't get.
So I'd be like one and two andthree and four, five, six, seven
, eight, and then they'd be onthe other side of the room and
I'd be like, oh crap.
So the guy was like you're soadorable, you're so great,
you're so physically, you know,ready for this.
But you're, you don't have thecount.
And then I realized, oh, thisis not what I want.
(10:14):
I don't want to be and I love.
Trust me, if I could have been,I would have been, but it
wasn't my path.
My path was to go into more of ashamanic, alchemic,
transformational, altered staterealm.
So then I went back to thatexperience I had and I said, oh,
I have to do this, I have to dofree dance with music and close
my eyes and go into States.
And then I slowly, over manyyears, after training, I trained
(10:37):
at Kripalu.
I trained with Dan Levin in1994.
I trained with um all thejourney, all the teachers at
Kripalu.
Um, I even did, I did somepartial training with Mega and
Niteshvar I trained with and Itrained with some of the most.
So it's just wonderful peoplewith incredible skills at
emotional, like how we bring theemotions to the dance floor,
(10:59):
where it's about the movement,not about the performance.
So there's no mirrors inanything that I do.
Beverley Glazer (11:04):
Now with Zoom mirrors, of course, but let's
talk now about Journey Dance.
And that is your baby?
Yes, and how long have you beendoing journey dance, teaching
journey dance?
This is a following.
Now, all over the world,thousands of people do journey
dance for everyone, listeningwhat is journey?
Toni Bergins (11:26):
dance.
So journey dance is a.
It's a process of embodimentand emotional empowerment,
expression and actuallyspiritual connection.
So it's a dance where I takepeople on a journey and I've
taught many I'm almost up to2000 teachers, which is just so
(11:46):
exciting I think we're at like1850 or something that I've ever
taken my training program, theteacher training, which is
different from all the otherprograms, but basically I teach
people how do you get into yourbody, how do you like roll
around on the floor and becomethis like creature that isn't
just a talking head or anemotional mess, right, we think
of ourselves in many cases aslike I'm just mental, or I'm
(12:08):
shut down emotionally, or I'm soemotional my stuff's all over
the place, I have no control.
How do you like step into thebody and say, okay, oh, I can
feel what's going on now?
It's a totally differentawareness to go from the head to
heart, to body.
So I start with embodiment,then I move into awakening.
How do we awaken our energy?
How do we become these vital,you know, like vibrant beings?
There's all this energy in thebody.
(12:29):
So I teach people how to awakenthe energy.
Then I go into thisself-hypnosis piece where I'm
helping people step in Like lookat your own hand, look at your
own, look at your, look at howyou move.
You're a beautiful creature.
You have to learn to appreciateyour body.
We go into appreciation, thenconnection with others If you're
dancing with others, or justconnection with all the
different.
You know rhythms and I bring inlike more rhythm.
And then we go into theemotional expression.
(12:50):
So there's a whole emotionalexpression component and it's
curated.
It's not a wild like everyonestarts screaming and running
around, you know crying.
It's not like that, it's a slowbuild.
Okay, how do I access what'sgoing on in my life?
So I say what's going on inyour life right now?
Tell your story of the dancefloor.
Then I bring in all kinds ofelements, kinds of elements you
(13:12):
know, is it grief, is it anger?
What is happening?
And then we express it throughthe music different types of
music for this section.
It's so beautiful, it's myfavorite thing.
Then I go into what I call thealchemy, which is transmuting
all of that, and saying, okay,how do I take all these emotions
and compost it right, turn itinto something good, turn it
into something.
Say what am I learning here?
What am I what?
How do I let this go and whatam I learning here?
What am I what?
How do I let this go?
And how do I see?
How do I transmute this intosomething like let's take, for
(13:34):
example, generational trauma.
Right here we are.
If you decide you want to healyour generational trauma, it's a
choice.
It's not, it's not like, oh,this is going to happen, no
problem, easy peasy.
I got this.
Now, this is a choice and it'swork.
So I say okay, across.
I am a game changer, so I'mgoing to stop the cycles of
(13:54):
violence in my family.
I'm not going to perpetuatewhat's been, what's happened to
me from the past.
So we get us into the presentmoment by acknowledging the past
, embracing it, you know, reallyexploring it.
How is it?
How did it affect me?
But it's all nonverbal.
You know it's all on the dancefloor.
So I'm asking people so putthat old story into this fire
that we're going to create, intothis ceremonial fire.
(14:14):
We all have fire in our lineage.
Every culture has fire and howdid we use it?
In different ways, and everyculture has it.
Pretty much every people of theworld has used fire in some way
.
So I think that's a very gooduniversal archetype.
Beverley Glazer (14:32):
So, Toni, let me just stop you right here.
If somebody is coming to theclass, and is it only for young
people?
Is it for older people?
Okay, so what is the range ofpeople or the level of dance
that they need to know?
Can you just walk into the roomLike what happens, Walk us
(14:55):
through it step by step?
What is that about?
Because it can be very verythreatening for people.
Toni Bergins (15:01):
Yep, I'm taking you on that journey right now.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So here we are at Alchemy.
So any age exactly.
Toni Bergins (15:05):
So any age I mean I have, I mean I would say like
16 would be the low.
I mean.
There are kids that come but Idon't think they have a lot of
baggage to release.
So for them it's more just afun wild ride, like, wow, we're
dancing with scarves, you know.
But for people who are, youknow, at any age I mean I work
with people who are goingthrough transition One of the
(15:31):
things about Kripalu that I loveon Tuesday, you know, you'll
just be kind of like, okay, I'mgoing to trust that everything's
going to be all right and I'mgoing to just go for this and
there's nothing to be afraid of.
I've been doing it for 27 years.
You're good, and if emotionscome up, they're like going to
therapy.
You know, if you go to therapyor go to a coach, you know that
(15:55):
you're going to be challenged.
It's not like you're walking inthere for some easy, you know
cakewalk and you're going tohave the magic bullet.
You're going to have to go inand do the work.
So journey dance is verysimilar to that.
So here we are at the mountain,into the center, and then we're
all going to become theopposite.
(16:16):
What would the elixir of themountain be and we're going to
dance over it and it's justtotally free form.
There's no.
I do offer a lot of structure.
So there's movements.
I give movement suggestions soyou're not like just lost in a
sea of you know people, you'reactually.
You're being guided, you'rebeing gently guided through the
whole process.
So it's kind of like ahypnotherapeutic process.
And then, after we do ourtransmutation dance, where we
(16:38):
like move this thing, we usethis fire element and we move it
into, we start to feel anecstatic joy and then we dance
with our heart.
We come into the heart and thenwe go into prayer, which I call
.
You know, I use the word prayer.
My religion that I grew up inis not really use that word, so
it doesn't have a lot of chargefor me, but a lot of religions
(16:59):
have a lot of charge around thatword.
But I still like that wordbecause it means to me that
we're saying I'm going to focusmy attention on something right
now.
That's all.
That's what prayer is to me.
What am I focusing my attentionand my intention on?
And I'll dance my prayer, slowmotion, super energy.
I teach people all about theirenergy body and then we go into
(17:20):
deep relaxation.
So it's got an arc like adouble arc to it and any age,
any level of ability, it doesn'tmatter.
You just modify to your own bodyor you push yourself into a new
, you know, a new level offitness.
You know if that's what youwant to do, you can go faster,
you can go slower, like it'svery modifiable for all bodies.
I do do a lot of floor work, soif you can't get on the floor
(17:44):
then you can do that sitting ina chair or roll or leaning
against the wall.
So there are lots of differentmodifications you can do.
But it is a it is a dance form,so there is movement to it.
Some people do it from awheelchair and you know they
they do it with theirimagination.
Some people do it laying down.
I mean it has a journeyingquality as well.
So there's kind of two roadsyou could take if you're not a
(18:05):
quote dancer and you don't haveto be a dancer to do it.
It's more like you just have tobe willing to move, because
when you shake like we do,shaking we do.
I mean there's so manydifferent pieces to it, but all
of these somatics, all of thesethings have been proven now
somatically to create shift inthe body.
You know we did it all before.
There was all the sciencebehind everything.
You know I've been doing it foryears and years Now.
(18:25):
There's a science to everything.
So if you really if you want tofind the science, you can.
You can look up how everysingle movement affects the body
, from stretching to shaking, torolling and pouring.
I mean it's amazing.
Beverley Glazer (18:37):
Right, right.
So how does everybody feel?
I know the answer to this one,but when you're talking about it
, you just are.
You're in your body Everything,the movement, the feeling,
everything.
How do people feel when theywalk out of a class like that?
Toni Bergins (18:54):
Well, they definitely want to hug, I tell
you, they hug, they hug eachother, they hug me, they hug
their teacher.
There's so many teachers outthere.
They, they just feel incrediblyconnected, connected and
grounded and present.
Like at the end of class wasyesterday.
I said you just take thisfeeling, this feeling of
completely expressed self, likeyou know nothing held back, just
(19:16):
just released, and they justfeel I said bring it into every
self what this feels like.
Maybe it feels like peace toyou, maybe it feels like love to
you, maybe it feels likeexpansion to you.
So I like to give people lotsof opportunity to make it their
own.
It's not like what I say orwhat the teacher says is what
you're going to feel, it's whatyou feel.
Some people cry and they haveto cry for hours.
They've opened up a valve of,of emotional release.
(19:39):
It needs to happen.
I think that's also veryhealthy and you know you modify
that.
You know you, you take care ofyourself, drink a ton of water
and you keep letting theemotions move through you.
I will say, in my personalhealing, I am, I was not a big
crier because I was very good atstuffing and compartmentalizing
.
I was stuffing with food I wasstuffing, the emotions I was
(20:01):
stuffing.
I can't go into all the storiesabout my family.
Many of them are still alive,so I love them.
I love them so much.
They're all still alive in mypersonal, my unit, my family
unit and I love them so much.
And I learned how tocompartmentalize.
I learned how to disassociate.
I learned how tocompartmentalize.
I learned how to disassociate.
I learned how to yell andscream.
I learned all the things right,we all learned.
But I chose I was going to besuper calm and neutral whenever
(20:24):
possible and only explode, likeif I didn't express myself.
Then I would sometimes explodeand I was not healthy for anyone
who I loved.
So I worked on this for yearsand years.
So for me to cry and have a bigrelease was such a big deal.
I know so many people I mean Iteach every single week, twice
or three times a week, and whenpeople cry they are so grateful
(20:46):
they're not angry that I madethem cry.
I made a joke the other day.
I said, yeah, I get paid tomake people cry and they all
laughed because people werecrying and it was getting very,
very emotional and when someoneelse cries it gives you
permission to cry and so on andso forth.
And crying is literally an actof releasing.
It's an act of releasing theemotional constraint on the body
(21:06):
, cause we're meant to flow.
We're meant to flow whetherit's anger.
Some people cry because they'reangry and they don't express
their anger.
So it gets.
You know, you know all this.
It gets twisted and morphed.
Beverley Glazer (21:15):
So you know all this as a as a very obviously
you're an experienced this iswonderful for people who are all
bottled, bottled up, for peoplewho just can walk into a room
it's not threatening and just totake the risk that you could do
(21:37):
something different and you canget some result out of it.
So I think the operative wordreally is take the risk.
You know, very often we've beento coaches, we've been to
therapists, we've been to somany different people to get
help We've read self-help books,all kinds of things.
(21:58):
This is another modality.
And not to get help We've readself-help books, all kinds of
things.
This is another modality.
And not to fear it and this issomething that I'm seeing as
well.
You know we can be verythreatened that we don't look
good, that our bodies aren'tgood.
People are looking at us.
We don't have dancers bodies.
So take the risk that you coulddo something different to
(22:18):
liberate yourself.
And, as Tony said, you're nevertoo old and you can do this in
a wheelchair.
That's really something.
Thank you, tony.
Tony Bergins is a trailblazingembodiment coach, a movement
alchemist, a speaker, an authorand the founder of Journey Dance
(22:40):
, a global movement that hasenhanced thousands of lives.
For 25 years, tony has guidedpeople to release stored
emotions, break free fromlimiting patterns and to
reconnect to their authenticselves.
Here are some takeaways fromthis episode Let go of
(23:02):
perfection.
Give yourself the freedom toembrace who you are.
Physical movement can help youprocess emotions and feel
connected to yourself.
Set healthy boundaries.
Learning to say no is crucialto your peace of mind and
transformation and healing takestime, and movement is vital to
(23:25):
that process.
If you've been feeling stuck inyour life, here are a few
things that you could do rightnow.
Take a few minutes every day tomove your body, whether it's
dancing, stretching.
Just focus on how it feels andstop being hard on yourself.
Be more compassionate instead.
Take a deep breath when you'reoverwhelmed and give yourself a
(23:49):
moment to be grounded.
For similar episodes on healingthrough the arts, check out
episodes 107 and 120 of Agingwith Purpose and Passion.
And, if you love travel, listento the Ageless Traveler podcast
and subscribe to Travel Tuesdaynewsletter.
The Ageless Traveler is thenumber one resource for active
(24:13):
travelers 60 plus, and it'shosted by Adriane Berg, whose
mission is to ensure that younever, ever, stop traveling.
That link is going to be in theshow notes, too.
So where can people learn moreabout you?
Tony, you have a book.
I think you have an audio bookas well.
Tell us you know your links.
(24:34):
Where can people find moreabout you?
Take your classes, find moreabout your facilitators when?
Toni Bergins (24:42):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
I just I, I, I adore you.
I think you're just amazing.
I'm so happy you're helping somany people take risks, cause
that was the key thing you saidwas to take a risk.
So take a risk and go check outeither journeydancecom or
tonybergenscom.
That's where all my book portalis located.
So my book is called embody,feel, heal and transform your
life through movement.
(25:02):
It's on audible and where allbooks are sold as well.
And I did do the audio, whichwas so what a practice, what a
process that was.
And I put music in it.
So I went and found all thisbeautiful music that I could
purchase and then play forpeople.
So if you do the audio, you canactually dance with me right
there, like in your car whileyou're driving.
Just keep your hands on thewheel and whatever.
Whenever you're listening.
(25:24):
And I do retreats as well.
I have a whole new programcalled Bucket List with Toni,
and we're doing Costa Rica,we're doing Portugal, we're
gonna do Greece, we're gonna goplaces and we're gonna dance
while we're in all theselocations.
I have my teacher trainingthat's coming up very soon.
If anyone's interested injoining us, we have cohort
groups that we take through awhole year transformational
process and people come out ofthat with such confidence and so
(25:45):
much self-love and then so muchability to serve and to step
into communities that need this,this kind of work, and there's
just so many, so manyopportunities to be of service
at this point in the world.
So so I say, why not turn your,turn your passion into you know
, something that you can reallydo in your life and spend time
on it, especially if it's danceor movement or even just
(26:06):
psychological exploration,because journey dance has a lot
of psychodrama mixed in.
And I do have a work that Icall sacred drama, where I take
people through sacred dramaprocesses where we unpack
material through theater, whichis, I'm all about take the
inside and put it on the outside, you know, like in a in a
different way from storytelling.
YeahAnd Right, so we can find you
(26:27):
online and I teach Journey everyDance Tuesday on zoom.
There's a whole journey danceand there's also all my teachers
not my teachers all theteachers are now being listed on
our new we have a new listingsite for them, which is gorgeous
.
It's being built right now aswe speak, and
Journey Dance website.
You type in facilitator.
(26:47):
that link, it's going to be inthe show notes and it's also
(27:47):
reinventimpossible.
com to be on my site too.
That's reinventedpossiblecom.
And so, my friends, what's nextfor you?
Are you just going through themotions or are you actually
living a life that you love?
Get my free guide to go fromstuck to unstoppable, and that's
also going to be in the shownotes below.
You can connect with me,beverly Glazer, on all social
media platforms and in mypositive group of women on
Facebook.
That's Women Over 50 Rock, andthank you for listening.
I love that.
If you enjoyed thisconversation, subscribe, drop us
a review and send it to afriend, and remember you only
have one life, so live it withpurpose and passion.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Thank you for joining us.
You can connect with Bev on herwebsite, reinventimpossiblecom
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Until next time, keep agingwith purpose and passion and
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