Brian McKeon - Sweethearts& Heroes

Brian McKeon - Sweethearts& Heroes

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:30):
All right, good morning, brand new day right in front

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of us, and you can choose to spend it any
way you want.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
You have power. You have the choice to well, be positive,
be open minded, to push through you to day with
a with a great attitude, or let others take the wheel.
I say, be yourself and have some fun, enjoy the weather,

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get outside, get a breath of fresh air, and speak
the truth, regardless of let's say others. I want to
start out this morning by saying, good morning, Deb Phillips.
How the heck are you over at the world?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Good morning jd Well. The papers are here, so all
things are good.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
We're ready to go.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
It is a ready to go.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's a Wednesday. The papers are going to be moving throughout,
not just central from up but everywhere. Deb.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, off Washington County and arts of Orange County.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
YEP THEWORLDVT dashworld dot com. If you haven't been on
the website, check it out. If you are interested in
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good care of you. What's deadline for that? Anyway?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Deb, We have a little bit of an early deadline
this week because of the Thanksgiving holiday. So it's noon
on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
All right, noon on Thursday. What can we expect in
the world today, Deb.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, we have a tribute to the beau Bear shoe
repair family as the most people know that they have
been in Bury for about seventy six years and they
are their building is sold and they are closing. So
then there's also tonight the Very Partnership is having their

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meeting and also a tribute to the Beaubert family. And
also we have our homeowner Service directory for all your
ball renovations. We have some money saving coupons you can
save on tire changes and oil changes. We have your
good health directory, and we also have holiday craft Bears.

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And this is the first week of the Christmas Tree
directory for those people who love to get their Christmas
trees nice and.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Early, assuming that they like the real trees right, yes.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Real trees, yes, real trees.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yes, real or fake for you, Deb.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Actually right now, I don't put up a tree anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I don't have any kids.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I understand, I understand totally.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
But it was always real before that.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh that's great, Deb, Thank you ever so much. We'll
grab our copy of the World today. It's going to
be on newsstands everywhere we're talking about what twenty thousand
plus readers everywhere.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, yeah, about twenty two thousand readers per week.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Incredible, deb We look forward to it so much. It
is a Wednesday. I love celebrating with the world, and
we thank you so much for hopping on this morning
and sponsoring the podcast.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
All right, thanks Jad, thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
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Shaker Village at five point thirty saw that last night

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on the on the Facebook, and of course it is
set up day today for stuff a truck in their
twenty fourth year but Price Chopper. I'll be up there
at some point today and over the next couple of days,
and I look forward to it very very much. Head
and headfirst into my old stomping grounds. Man. I have

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Brian McKeon with me this morning.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
This is.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
This is what now the third or fourth time I
think that you've been with me.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Boy, it's starting to lose count here.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, man, Yeah, dude, it's great to see you, brother.
How the heck are you?

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Great to see you? JDM doing very well. How are you, man?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I'm doing great. We have a lot to talk about.
Let's let's dive right in head first, all right, Epstein Files,
what do you say?

Speaker 4 (07:10):
I don't keep up with the news too well, dude.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I just had to listen. I just had to throw
that after this morning to make sure that Tom Murphy,
if he's watching this morning, that we made the hair
stand up on his back. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Sure, you gotta kick out of that one. If he's
listening right now.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
By the way, we have to say happy birthday to
Tom Murphy.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, happy your birthday.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
There, I'm going with sixty. I'm gonna go like early sixties, sixty,
sixty two, sixty three for Tom. What do you what say?

Speaker 4 (07:49):
You? Well, he tells me, he tells me he's aging backwards.
He's getting younger, so it's probably going in the Even
if he is in the sixties, he's probably going down.
He's probably going back to.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
His you know, I just I just chatted with him
and he admitted to me that he uses muscle implants.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Oh really, yeah, wow, Well that makes a lot of sense.
You know, it's like you don't really see him without
you know, his free hug shirts.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Every always a T shirt, always the T shirt to
show him off those in its spent a lot of
money on those implants. We also have Erica Esteville today, Uh,
Marcy Hawkins, Tila Utton, Tabitha Lord, Diane Williams, Josh Smart,

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Kevin Neil, Michael Coda, Gloria Brooks on the birthday list today,
Nicholas Peak, and Todd Mansfield. So where do we begin? Man? Uh?
This is like, you know, I just had Rick on
last Wednesday, which is always incredible. Rick Yarrish Uh he

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read his book Bridge Name as Yeah, it was really amazing.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
I helped a little bit of that project, putting the
you know, the pictures and stuff to get like the artists.
Kevin Cannon just did an amazing job I did, yeah, dude.
And and that was actually one of my favorite projects
to work on. Uh. Just seeing that thing come together
and getting it out to everybody, it's just been awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
And now he's you know, he's given people free free downloads.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we got the free downloads going
right now. Get on Facebook, get your free download. You
get to watch the audio version as well, read by Rick. Yeah,
so yeah, get on that.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
He is he is so in All of you guys
are so inspiring. Many of you just look at what
so many of us do in our our culture and
in our society, negative stuff, and you guys face it

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head on and you're like, yeah, aware of it. We're
going to talk about it real transparently, and it's it's
from just general negativity, bullying, what have you, depression, mental, mental, uh, wellness,
you guys really take it on man. Everything. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, we and we like to you know, we we
do deal with all that stuff, and but we like
to come from it from a strength based approach. You know.
It's like those things are are there, they're real, we
have to be aware of them, we have to work
on them. But how do we do that?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know?

Speaker 4 (10:37):
And and you can live in the deficit and you
can say, you know, you can point at the problems
all the time and h stuff, but you know, how
do we start fixing these things? Yeah, and that's where
we that's where we come in. We we focus on
taking the strength of your community and trying to help
everyone leverage those by just building community, understand each other, right,

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and you know, it's the it's the challenging stuff that
you go through that becomes your strength for other people.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I went back and rewatched one of the last
podcasts that or the last podcast that you and I
did together, and one of the conclusions that I got
from it, one of the things that I was thinking
when I was listening to it is what you're talking
about right now, I think begins by yourself. It begins

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with you being alone with yourself, whether it's you know,
you're you're in the car for a couple of hours
or whatever. We all love to be listening to whatever
we want to listen to, whether it's satellite radio, or
whether it's music, or or whether you know, we're on

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the phone. We're constantly chatting with people and engaging. But
to disengage from all of that and just be alone
and quiet, shut shut everything off for a little while. Yeah,
just be curious where your mind tends to wander.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, man, I mean, you are your true self when
you're alone, Like, you know who you really are when
you're alone. And you know what, I think you have
a really good point there. It's like we are constantly
sucked into all of these things. Yeah, it's like this
constant noise and we don't take that time to sit
down be alone with ourselves. And sure you know, and

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it's it's hard, dude, Yeah, Like I mean I had
struggle with it, Like I try to, you know, you know,
you just get on the couch at night and watch
your TV. It's like, sure, should should you? Maybe you know,
take an hour and just sit.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Can you imagine it? Think if so many of us
get bored with it? I mean, you know, honestly, part
of what happened was I was listening to our podcast
and while I was driving and lost signal and frustrated
me and couldn't get it back. So I'm like, all right,

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it's gone, So what's my next option. I'll head over
to satellite radio or whatever. And I was quiet, but
something that I can't remember what it was, but it
was something that you said on the air, and it
cut out right right then, and that's when I lost
the signal and it like kind of hung out and

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resonated a little bit with me. Couldn't get the couldn't
get the signal back. So then I just started thinking,
and I had that silence, which is really a gift, man,
It's a gift.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
It really is, dude. Like, you know, I just really
think that a lot of the things that you know,
we do and consume today, I just this just is
all very new to like the human species. Yeah, you know,
like we just too much. Yeah, it's just like, you know,
we whether you know whatever, you believe. It's like, yeah,

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just a hundred years ago, it was entirely different, right Like,
and I don't think our brains have been able to
understand what we've been going through with ourselves. Yeah, and yeah,
I think you need those quiet moments to probably evaluate
where you are.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You know, we got a billion and one neurons that
are all fireing and wire in our brains, but to
disconnect some of them and have some quiet, some silence
for a little while. If we can begin with that,
I think that'll kind of maybe help set the stage
for not only having a different perspective throughout the day,

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but maybe reflecting on yourself and how you the difference
between responding and reacting to not only your husband, your wife,
your boyfriend, girlfriend, your kid, but also how you respond
and react on social media.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah, oh yeah, social media is god big one. You know.
Like I think we were talking earlier, like there's a
statistic I'm not sure what it is, but it's like
eighty ninety percent something. People will say and do things
online that they would never ever do in person. And
what does that do to your say things neurological structure
in the real world, you know, I know, so I

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totally agree, And you know what, you know, I don't
go to the I don't I'm not a presenter or
a speaker or anything. But next week when you get
your guest on, you should definitely see how check in
on how this whole cell phone thing is going in schools,
because I'm very interested to hear about that.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Please do tell about the next guest.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, Patcha, Oh my gosh, he's a beast. Bro.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Have you seen him in his pink his pink suit?
Have you seen the pink suit?

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I don't know if I've seen the pink suit.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
God looks amazing.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Betty looks daff yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
And he just got married, yes he did?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah? So how how can you can you kind of
wet the whistle here? How are things going with the
no cell phone.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
In I don't know. That's what I'm very curious. I
mean from what I've heard, and I you know, I
only hear it secondhand from Tom and uh, Pat or Joe.
I don't really know, to be honest with you, that's
I'm curious to hear. I haven't really had those conversations
too much this year with them, but I'd be very
fascinated to hear how kids are are are dealing with

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how the teachers doing. I think it's been a big
uh you know, it's it's definitely not been easy. I
don't think for I think a lot of educators too,
in particular, because you know, there's there's this challenge where
it's like, you know, you've adapted to a certain way
of living and then you know you're you're an independent adult,
but then you have to go to school and these

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kids are not allowed to have their electronics. Sure, and
as an adult, like the hardest thing man, and I'm
sure you know I'm not a parent, but behavior modeling,
like kids are gonna do what you're doing. And so
that that's just been a I think of challenging conversation

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this year, but it's one we need to have.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
If there's a family out there that that has a
kid who's eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen who's not
wanting to be on a tablet or a cell phone,
whether it's just to pass the time or stay engaged,

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I'd love to know who they are.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
I know, well, the crazy tough man. It is very tough,
but you know what the crazy thing is. Last not
this Pasttember, but September of twenty four, when we did
our summing event yes up at Killington Up in Killington,
one of the biggest takeaways was that the kids were
like it was like a bit of a freedom for them,

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like to just get unplugged and to be around people
without having that interference. They loved it. They absolutely love it.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Tom was saying that that a lot of those high
school kids were thinking, you gosh.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, dude, I think there's a craving I really do that.
And and Tom has said for years now, for the
last couple of years, he's like heard more answers in circle,
Like one of his favorite questions is where would you
go if you had a time machine? And he said
he can't count the number in the past couple of
years of kids would be like, I would like to
go back to a time when there wasn't technology. Wow,

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to see what that was like. You know, it's like
the last of the generations that even grew up with
that are coming to an end. Like, isn't it chy?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
What are you saying? Are you saying I'm getting old?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
We're all getting old? We're all getting old?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
My god, I remember, you know, my dad got the
first cell phone that came out. Couldn't couldn't wait. He
was so excited about I still have it. I should
really something, I should bring that in. I should bring
that in for for Pat.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Oh yeah, dude, bring that in and have that conversation
because I'd love to hear what he has to say about.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
How have you ever seen one of those honkers that
are like thirty tons, like like an old flip food
or something. No, no, it's this big you're talking about,
like a like the first cell phone that ever came out.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Really really this man, I haven't had that one.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
And that's just the phone. The antenna comes off of
it this hot Yes.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Dude, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Radio Shock nineteen eighty He can't guess here, I'm gonna
say eighty eighty three, eighty three, eighty four, twelve hundred.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Bucks, twelve hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah and wo. And there was one tower where we lived. Wow, man,
if you were lucky enough to get a bar, you
had to pull over. Well, I mean there was snow. Yeah,
you just stop and you're like, yeah, you had to stop.
And and you had the luxury of actually connecting and

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making a phone call from somewhere other than home wirelessly.
That was the luxury.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, there was no driving down the road continuing on
a phone call.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
I really resonated that though, because me and Tom, you know,
we're always on the phone, Like he probably talks to
me three, four or five times a day at least
on the phone, and a lot of the times he's
driving and it's going in and out and like, oh Tom,
you didn't hear you get to repeat yourself?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, so you ever hung up on you before?

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well, like his a little trick thing. Oh yeah, a
couple of times.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Does that all the time? Does that to Rick too? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Oh yeah, yeah. One time I was a we're him
in a little leadership presentation he was doing, and he
like called Rick to ask him about something. I can't
remember what it was, and he did in front of
the kids, and yeah, they got all.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
That's uh. Let's talk about some some of the big
staples that sweethearts and heroes hangs their hat on. Which
is hope, empathy, empowerment. Which one of those three is

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one that is nearest and dearest to you that you
love to bring to the table Hope, empathy, and what
was the other empowerment?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Empowerment? Gosh, you know, well, I think you need. I
think hope is kind of essential, like to be honest
with you, It's like almost a foundational human need to
be honest just with the craziness that you know, not
just our modern world but life in general. It's like
there's a lot of challenging stuff, man, a lot of suffering.

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Like so, I think hope is like a foundational thing,
but I think the empowerment part, the action part, is
the part that not only perhaps is the most important
because we can talk about all this stuff, we can
maybe even have internal hope for ourselves, but if you're
not acting upon anything, yeah, what good is it? So

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I think action and empowering the students that we talk to,
the teachers that we talk to, everybody that we talk to,
empowering them to take that action, I think might be
the most vital piece because that's where that's where change
I think happens.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Don't just talk the talk, walk the walk.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Yeah, you gotta walk the walk. And it's tough, man'.
That's why, you know, for every theoretical book, like I
don't know, there's like forever like ten twenty theoretical books,
is like one on practical.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Action, you know, And thirteen Pillows is a book that
you wrote, And I want you to tell us about
that because that kind of is a incredible tool, not
just for teachers, but for anybody that says I want

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to take action, I want to empower myself or empower
others to take the right steps into making a positive
difference for others and myself. But I don't really know
how to get my hands dirty. And it starts start
with first gear and that book does it.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, Well, the first pillow that yeah, Tom and I
recovered with the book, the first pillow is it's a marathon,
not a sprint. And that's just like it's like the
one that really stands out as that starting point because
you know, this stuff that we do, the stuff that
we talk about life in general, it's a marathon, man,
It's like you know, and it's counter to this modern

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instant gratification. Yes, and we want that instant gratification. We
want those quick fixes, those quick solves, those quick dopamine hits.
But yeah, it real real change, real success really comes
with time, I think. And you know, the the all
the principles in there can be applied to anybody, not

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just that it's called thirteen Pillars for Effective Teachers, but
we're actually thinking of doing a new addition where we
might uh update some stuff in there as well. We'll
see how when we get to that. But there are
principles and axioms that anybody can look to and implement.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Last night when my head hit the pillow, one of
the things that I was thinking about was something something
that presented itself to me during the day yesterday, and

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I had to make a quick decision. And after I
made that decision, I realized that it wasn't the best decision,

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and I had to let that. I had to allow
a little bit of time to process this and let
it kind of fester a little bit. And then I
realized that as uncomfortable as it was going to be,
I had an opportunity to reverse that decision and to

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do it without anyone other than myself knowing about it.
And it was a really, uh kind of an uncomfortable
situation for me, but I did it, and it was

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one of the last things that was running through my
head when I before I went to bed last night,
as I said to myself, I'm glad that you went
back and did that. And no one on the planet knows.
That's so, what's the significance with the pillow? Because a

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lot of us hear, you know, thirteen pillars, Yes, so
what's the pillow? It's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
It's exactly what you're talking about. Is that it's that
pillow test at night where you lay down and you
ask yourself, I I'm glad I did or I wish
I had. It sounds like you had a great I'm
glad I did moment yesterday and that sounds awesome, and
you know, it is fascinating. It's like nobody else in
the world is gonna know about it, perhaps, but you

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know that's something you're gonna carry with carry with you,
and yeah, that's that's probably a whole discussion on what
what that's like, because you know, a lot of times
we talk about the things that we're gonna do or
the things that we did, and you know, it almost
kind of like tricks our brain into sure, you know,
thinking where we've already done something or that were you

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know a little bit more. I don't know, but yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I think either way, if you can say to yourself,
I wish I had or I'm glad I did. I
think either way, if you can, if you can honestly
ask and then honestly answer, and the answering.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Is that's the tricky part. That's the tricky part, being
honest with yourself.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Hell yeah, it's tough. If you can do both of
those just to yourself, you don't have to talk, you
don't have to say this stuff to your wife or anyone.
But if you can ask both of those questions and
answer both of them, you're instilling personal growth.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean just the the fact
that you even do it is yeah, is the is
the act that I think, you know, you do. The
more you do something, it just becomes habit, right, and
nobody's perfect, you know, it's like it's so having those
I wish I had, you know, is just as vital
as I'm glad I did. Yeah, because yeah, like you said,

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it's growth and life is all about growth, I think.
And yeah, the minute you stop growing, I feel like,
is the minute you start dying.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Sure yeah, sure, you know, and if you really wow
that well said man, well said, and you know, if
you really want to take it a step further, jot
these things down.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, oh yeah, it Dan probably makes it even more powerful.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Put put it in, put it in your phone, and
you know, just go back and look at something from
a month or two earlier. Yeah like oh yeah, wow,
yeah wow, I am I am glad I did that.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah. Yeah, you look back at that and you see
the growth trajectory that. Yeah, it's encouraging.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yes, yeah, this book thirteen Pillows free download.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Free download. Yet there's a I think it's out there.
I don't know if we made a post about it lately, but.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
All right, get on Facebook.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
We'll be coming out with some holiday things like that
this this December.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Wow, what an incredible gift idea that would be thirteen
pillows for effective teachers. But let's not please limit it
just to teach, no man, I mean this book is yes,
no brainer. All teachers, no matter what planet you're on,

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should read this book.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
And that's what we wrote it for originally. But yeah,
like students started reading it and loving it, and then
we're like, wow, these actually really just apply to everybody.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, what what is the what is the book about you?
You wrote it?

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's about this. Well, so we had these
thirteen pillars, these thirteen principles that we had, uh that
Tom had kind of developed over the years, and we
were originally going to tell some more stories that actually occurred. Yeah,
but we just decided, like you know, people love love
a narrative, love a story, and rather than all these

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disconnected you know, little stories throughout the book. We decided
to create one long fictional narrative, and every page in
that book, Tom can point to and be like, this
is where this happened, This is where that happened. They're
all based off true stories, true people. It's just we
we just created this different narrative about this uh, fizzed

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teacher who just lost. The book opens with a fizzed
teacher just lost his uh one of his athletes to
their own hands, and he's just you know, he's a
young educator and he's just not feeling equipped to deal
with this kind of stuff, and so he's gonna he's
gonna quit. But then outsteps out of the.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
How much of that is true? How much of that story?

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Oh well, the the the Bruce, his name is Bruce
in the book. That's the fictional uh part. But the
person it's based off of his uh uh, this kid
named I think Evan Yarder was the the young man
who took his own life. And you know, Evan was
just one of those invisible kids. This time will tell

(31:49):
you that, like, you know, you wouldn't know he was
in the room until he was gone, and uh yeah,
and it was just very sad, very tragic thing. But
you know, from those from those challenges, you know, that's
that's where this custodian steps out and you know, helps
Bruce understand that, you know, not only you know, do

(32:13):
we have to keep keep hope going, but you know
other people are dealing with similar challenges. You know, everybody's
you never know you know who's dealing with what, and
so you can't give up. You have to have that hope.
And and that's what this custodian brings to Bruce and
these thirteen lessons that he helps them connect with the

(32:34):
students and connect with other teachers in school and just
starts that change.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You know. And it's a custodian.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, it's the custodian that steps out of the shadows here.
He's an old retired educator from the inner city wherever
that is, and he's just he's just lost his wife
to cancer and he's just kind of old, but he
wants to get back into just helping people in the custodian.
You know, it's like my grandfather used to say, you know,
when he was he had a lot of different odd

(33:05):
jobs here and there, and he used to teach and
he would always go to the custodian to find out
anything about the school, because the custodians, you know, they're
the ones that know every goings on, you know. So
they're the ones that, like you said, you know, they
don't nobody knows what they're doing. They probably barely get
appreciated the way they should be appreciated, but they can

(33:28):
be the ones that can honestly give the most hope
and be there for people. So yeah, it's it's a
it's a really cool it's a really cool story, and uh,
you should definitely read it.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, no, I've I've I've got the the audio version,
which you know, like everyone else, I'll catch one, i'll
catch two, and I need to go back to it
and it gets lost in the shuffle, but it really shouldn't.
What I need to do is is and maybe I'll
do it through the Thanksgiving Yeah, listening to it? Yeah, yeah,

(34:03):
narrated by Frank Gerard.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah, he did a great job. We found him
and yeah he did a fantastic job narrating and got
some great character voices and stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
So yeah, yeah, what what's another what's another pillow in there?
Of the thirteen that I think one of they might
resonate the most.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
You know, I think especially this, you know, as we're
getting into these holiday season, thing like Wilton Flowers, I
think is a big one. And you know, I've been
reading this other book, this other leadership book recently, and
it's talking about this when you have this what they
call this helpful sense. Yeah, it's almost like that instinctual.

(34:53):
It's like you see something, you see somebody out there, say,
and they dropped their groceries. You're automatic, internal human instinct
is to be like, oh, I should go and help
that person. But we often start to talk ourselves out
of it. The minute we had that instinct, you start
making excuses for you know, why I shouldn't go over there,

(35:14):
like it's not my business stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Some of this is literally at lightning speech. Oh yeah,
it happens like that.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
And I think Wilting Flowers is one of those ones
where people know there's something going on with somebody and
they choose not to do anything about it. And I
think that's perhaps one of the most dangerous things. Man
Albert Einstein said, this world is in a dangerous place
because of the bad people. It's the dangerous place because
of the people that are willing that don't do anything

(35:42):
about it. And wilting flowers is about you know, if
you know a lot of times the wilt isn't on
the exterior, it's a lot of times on the interior
and stead whoa, but you know it's not it's about
not walking by those wilting flowers. Man, you gotta got
to check in, you gotta you see something that's off.

(36:02):
You notice certain baseline behaviors changing, Like somebody's sitting by
themselves where they're usually a very social somebody's giving away
and you know, we've been working with a lot of
linemen lately in one of like telltale signs, like they
start eating by themselves, they start giving away their tools,
and you know, it's just something's going on. And if

(36:22):
you don't.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
They can do it with a smile on their face too.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Oh they can, absolutely. They probably most often do it
with the smile. You know. It's like those people that
hide behind that smile are sometimes the ones in the
most paint and Robin Williams for instance. You know, so
walking by wilting flowers is perhaps the most one of
the most dangerous things you can do, because the more
you do that the more you walk by those wilting flowers,

(36:47):
it probably becomes easier to walk by those wilting flowers.
And so you have to when you have that helpful
sense to help other people, you got to act on
a man action. It's all about that act. If you
don't take it, you know what, what could happen if
you don't take it? Think about that one.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
You. You and your your brother Josiah some of the
most inspirational guests I've I've ever had on the air
that I've ever interviewed. Your parents. Tell me about your
mom and dad, and you're you're answering for Josiah.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Also, yeah, yeah, so we grew up I think because
I think they did a great job. My parents. We
were amazing parents. Absolutely they gave us. For me, the
greatest gift they gave me was the ability to, uh,

(37:48):
you know, to be okay with thinking for myself and
not necessarily going with things just because that's like the
way you do it or whatever. Like. It just taught
me to really think for myself. And my mom has
been an early childhood education since college. She's a professor

(38:10):
online now for you know, pretty much as long as
almost I've been alive, it feels like, but she's just
has an amazing heart for people. She runs a homeschool
co op community. She teaches multiple colleges online. My dad
was also a teacher. He graduated with gosh, it was

(38:34):
something to do with biology. Microbiology, that was kind of
his main thing. But he's taught. He's like the smartest
person I know in terms of like he can teach
himself anything. Like the dude would used to teach classes
that the school would be like, we don't have a
teacher for this. Here, you go figure out how to

(38:54):
teach this thing. He taught himself. One of the craziest
ones was he went into he's not trained in medicine,
but he went into pharmacology and teaching pharmacology. But he
had to teach a class pharmacology too. So over the
summer he decides to teach himself pharmacology one. And he
knows all the science and like how the things work
in the body, but he doesn't know all the medical

(39:15):
terms and the names and like the different uh prescriptions
or whatever. Like. He teaches himself pharmacology one, and then
as he's teaching pharmacology too, he's teaching himself during the
semester freaking nuts. Man. I don't know, he's brilliant, but
both of them were just.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Nobody died, No, nobody died. Wow.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, No, it's He's taught a lot of different weird classes,
Like he talked one I remember this one year he
taught like this. It's like some kind of like office ergonomics,
like designing your office like spaces in a certain way
to make it. I don't know, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
But how were they raising you and Josiah?

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah, yeah, so I got there's Joe, and then I
got two other younger brothers as well, and uh so
we were uh yeah, we were all homeschooled. So that
that definitely set us on a different path, I think,
And you know, they we we were raised in a
religious household, and I think those things. There's a lot
of morals and foundational stuff there that I've just that

(40:21):
will never leave me, Like it's ingrained in my life
no matter where I go. But they were they were
always exceptional in terms of how they chose to parent us,
and they were always involved in our lives man like,
and that that's one of the things I appreciate the
most is they were always there for the sporting events.

(40:41):
They were always there for whatever it was. And and
my grandparents too. And I've always had a supportive family
and they've always accepted me for who I am, which
is probably the greatest gift that the amazed me.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I love to hear that. I love similar with with
my parents. But what did they say to you when
and I think I've asked you this in the past,
when you said, I actually, I don't think I'm gonna
keep going with paralegal studies. I think I'm gonna get

(41:16):
involved with this organization called Sweethearts and Heroes.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yea, dude, I've made some I've made some interesting decisions
over my life, but every single one of them, they've
they've supported me, and that's just been been great. Like
the paralegal thing is fascinating. My dad also took classes
at the college he taught at UH, and yeah, he
took classes. He was a I didn't know what the
heck I wanted to do after high school, so I

(41:41):
actually went to general into a general studies UH degree
and then decided after that, I'm like, eh, I'm going
to take a year off and go bartend at a
restaurant and h and then my dad was taking paralegal classes.
He's like, oh, you like to read and write. There's
a lot of reading and writing here. You should do that. Yeah, okay,
so that's I did. And you know, college for me

(42:02):
was I I learned how to learn, Like I learned
how I learned, and uh, that was probably what I
most took away, Like I don't remember a single thing
about my classes, like what I the content. But dude,
I'm a voracious note taker. Like that's why I'm so
effective with what I do right now is because yeah,
I just I am a note taker, man, And uh

(42:26):
that's what I picked that skill up in college.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah. So yeah, do you do you have any anxiety
if you don't have a piece of paper and a
pen close by?

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Well, I my phone my go to. I don't do
too too much pen and paper much anymore, but.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I get papers surrounded.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Well, my my digital world is just as chaotic in
that notes I got necessarily. Oh yeah, yeah, then I'm
in trouble and I'm in trouble or maybe okay, because.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Drive my wife. Absolutely you should see my kitchen table.
But you know what I know where every single piece
of paper. Hey, yeah, that's what matters, mane. But but
you know, so here's here's mom and dad supporting you
no matter what it is, what path you want to

(43:21):
go down. But now you're you're you know, you're doing
a lot of the administrative stuff for Sweethearts and Heroes. Tom,
should have you more, Tom, if you're listening right now,
should have you more.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
With people with the kids. Well that's that's my decision. Actually,
I love what I do. Man, Like, I'm just I'm
not a you know, it's not that you know, I
couldn't probably put myself in that kind of a role,
but I just I love to I like to think
about the these kind of things all day and I

(44:02):
just doing research writing things, and I like to I'm
a very uh I don't. I don't want to say
I'm O c D because I know there's like but
like I'm a little bit like of a specific way
type free. So I'm just really good at spreadsheets, emails
and so it's just my strengths.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, yeah, I understand, and Tom knows how to how
to tap into that, well.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
It absolutely does.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
How How did how did you get involved with Sweethearts
and Heroes? How did this? What was the fruition of.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
This, well, Tom was a I was in my younger years.
I was kind of like an aspirational author, and so
he knew I like to write, and what he wanted
to do was he wanted to take this message and
he wanted to turn it into a stage play. And
I still got the original as terrible. I think it's
like my personal writing at that time was not at

(44:53):
the level it is now. Not that the content or
the story or whatever is terrible, but like my level
of writing I feel like is proved so much. But
that's kind of where it started. And then we got
into the Thirteen Pillows. That was kind of my first
big real project that came together with them, and then
it just kind of snowballed me. And like, to be
honest with you, I was like I was in college.

(45:16):
After I got out, I traveled in Ireland for a
little bit, came back and just worked some little jobs
like waiting tables, working outside, and then started doing this
kind of stuff like in addition to that kind of stuff,
and it just snowballed me. It's just like, hey can
you do this? Hey can you do that? Hey?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Can you?

Speaker 4 (45:37):
And before I know it, like I'm basically helping him
run this thing. And now it's just like yeah, twenty
four to seven when I think about what I do,
and yeah, just it became it's like I feel like
we are in this new era of philosophy and psychology

(45:58):
and all this stuff like the ancient Greeks like trying
to go out and get these people to you know,
see this, this these new things in a different the
same things and like modern wording, modern like whatever.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
So I love it, man, and a whole different conduit
to everything. Man, everything is connected now.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Yes, yes, very much so. And that's one of the
things I actually work a lot on is, Uh. We
just partnered with this group, this online platform, Thrively, which
is a great strength based learning platform. Uh, and we're
getting all of our content on there so we can
actually start getting this out to people. Like our stuff
isn't about online. Our stuff is entirely about in person stuff.

(46:41):
But how do you get this stuff out? Like we
just are limited in our you know, manpower. It's getting
this stuff out. So the vehicle of the online platform
is is where we're going with it. And I write
all the curriculum for it and everything. So yeah, I
just love it is that.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Can we can we see that? Can we can you.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Bring it up?

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Like right now, not right now, but maybe I can.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah, in the future I can certainly. Yeah. Send you
some stuff on like we got gosh, I think twelve
standalone courses right now, from our foundational Message for middle
and high school and elementary school to some what we
call our Daily Dose of Hope with Rick, which are
just some great lessons with quick lessons with Rick on

(47:34):
empathy awareness action. We got our Circle series. We got
a set of three master classes that kind of all
come together. We start with the you know how you
do circle, we call it our Weaver series. Then we
move into our Wonder of Circle, which reveals the science
behind it. And then I'm actually finishing up our what

(47:54):
we call our Wardrobe of Circle, where there's these foundational
pieces we call the swordshield and Armor of Circle, which
there's a lot to get into, but it's these, uh,
these things on generational awareness, on autonomy, basic psychological needs, autonomy,
competence relatedness. It's just I love writing this content, man,

(48:18):
and I just think it's so valuable. I I just
I hope it's really starts to spread uh, in the
digital realm to to education you stuff, because it's all
the stuff we've been teaching. Person, it's just like, how
do we get it to more people?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, I mean you guys are are so engaged with
with kids, with with students, but your your this message
of hope of of just being a good person, being resilient,
but but being a good person is really working its
way beyond just the student and the and the the

(48:52):
kid and into the administration into the minds of adults,
which has gotta be a little trying to penetrate that
because man, adults are stubborn. Man, we're setting our ways.
We know, we know right.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Right, And it was fascinating because I was like when
we started in the summer doing these circles with Linemen,
I was curious, like how Tom is going to take
these circles that we do with students like which work
brilliantly every time.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Circle is the art of sitting in a circle and
communicating and community going going around the circle speaking yes
or not or not.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
It's actually, you know, as just as much as it's
about the sharing, it's probably more about the listening. It's
about the listening, and that's that that's that space where
we take out the distractions. You know, one of our
primary rules, not rules, one of our primary guidelines or
needs is a private location, like where we're away from

(49:57):
the distractions and we're sitting and buy face to face
with each other and we're all on an equal plane.
It's a circle. Nobody's in charge of the circle. The
circle moderates itself it And.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
No, it's very true. I mean it has it. There's
there's no uh necessary direction with it. I mean everyone
speaks everyone, not everyone, but most people speak most but
everyone has to listen.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, that's just and that's the tough part man. But
by the time we've gone around to the to the
beginning of that circle where it started, the topic or
the question that will be posed by by Tom or
or anyone who's who's leading the circle, uh, we might
be onto a whole different topic.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Oh yeah, that's what I was gonna say. So I
was wondering how he's gonna do it with these linemen.
I'm like, did you do it any differently? Is it? No?
I did it just the way with kids, and it
works man. And he said, like the circle I think
he had Yesterday's like he can't. You know, we try
to come in with a bit of a structure with
our circle to kind of lead people down a unified direction.

(51:10):
But you have to listen to the circle, man, and
you have to pivot with the way people are answering
with what the circle where it wants to go. And
he came in with a plan yesterday and it completely derailed.
They spent like an hour on the first question. And
that's that's where that master weaver we call comes in.

(51:31):
It's like, well, you gotta be able to pivot with
the same you know, kind of maybe intention but going
with the circle.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
When these when these students or these linemen or anyone
for that matter, walk into a room and see a
circle of chairs, is this therapy? God? Do I have
to be here? Do I have to do this to?

(52:01):
Oh my god, I'm gonna be so vulnerable? That ship
gets like that mindset gets destroyed almost immediately it does.
That conversation starts. It's you're not thinking that.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Way because it starts before the conversation. We start with
our activators, which is all about fun, man. That's what
people love to have fun. That's how we learn, yes,
and so we we always it's the number one thing.
If you don't even get to a circle question, r
play your activator. Number one brain rule is motion. That's

(52:36):
from the great John Medina and his twelve Brain Rules.
It's a great book. But motion is the number one
brain roman and everybody loves that fun and that's that's
that's why when you sit down in the circle, and
you know most people are like this when they start,
we get up, we play our activator. Yeah, your your

(52:56):
motion creates your emotion.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Yeah, yeah, so that that's why our circles are different,
man like, and and there's a lot of other reasons why.
But you know, activation is just primary, primary.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
And while you're while you're listening, you're you're thinking, and
you're you're regulating the way you're thinking.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Yes, you're connecting with people, you're.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
You're without without realizing it.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Without realizing it, very very often. And uh, that's kind
of part of the job of the weavers to try
and you know, draw out some of those connections to
those similarities that you know, you might have recognized on
a subconscious plane, but you might have not you know, understood.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
It's amazing that you've you've brought this to so many schools,
I don't know how.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Many, over one thousand at least at least in New York,
and you know, and we've you know, Montreal, Hawaii, We've
been in Kentucky, Colorado, Texas. They've been all over And
this started on you in Vermont. They started in Vermont. Yeah, yeah,
it's amazing. Yeah it didn't.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
It didn't start in Vermont thirty forty years ago. It's
not that.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Only about seven, I think sixteen seventeen years now talk
been doing it. It's exploded, man, Yeah, it really has.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Isn't that something? What's I tell you about our society?

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Well, exactly it. We need it, That's what I think
people need it. I mean we need to learn in
school too. We need to learn absolutely the core stuff,
but we need to we need a lot more than
just learning about math. Right now, with this incredible world
that we live in, which is so dysfunctional in so
many different ways, what we've got going on outside of

(54:43):
the classroom at home, in real life, we need this
stuff now more than ever. Yeah. Man, the human skills
have just we've just lost them due to you know,
whatever reasons. And it's not that they.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Could sit in point fingers all day technology. The list
goes on.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Yeah, the list goes on, and you know again that
curriculum stuff is important. But dude, I got my phone
in my pocket right now. Yeah, I just anytime I
need to do math, I do a lot of math stuff,
like our finances or whatever. Like, I just pull out
the calculator, man Like, I just asked chatchpt, Hey, how
do I do this? Hey? How do I do that?
I figure how to code this or code that just

(55:21):
using chat cheept so the content, you know, I just,
in my personal opinion, I feel like it's secondary to
these human skills that we have just lost the ability
to do. Everybody, not just kids, adults have too. Sure
I have. Everybody has sure And so I think you're dead,

(55:42):
right Like, That's that's what I think we need to
start figuring out. How do we transition from this age
where you had to remember things because you didn't have
instant access to any information that you wanted, And how
do we transition now to pairing that with uh, developing empathy,
developing awareness, teaching kids how to operate in this world.

(56:07):
Man Like. It's just it's getting wilder by the day,
and we got to start catching up. On how we
teach kids to do things in life.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
It's powerful stuff and what your what you're as I'm
sitting here listening to you. You know I'm listening to you,
but I asked to have some thoughts in my mind
about relating what you're saying to things going on in
my life. Situations, stories, yeah, people, relationships. It's very powerful stuff. Yeah, dude,

(56:43):
it's incredible. You know, we should would be remiss if
we didn't throw some some love at some of the dealerships,
the car dealerships, the Chevy dealerships specifically that have stepped up,
not just one or two, but several and have said, Yo,

(57:06):
we want to be part of this movement that Sweethearts
and Heroes is on. We want to be part of
their brand. We want to make help make what they
do possible in more schools so this can spread further.

(57:27):
And there are so many Chevy dealerships. Cody Chevrolet, Wels
River Chevrolet are just two, Alderman Chevrolet down in Rutland.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
Many Chevrolet, Champlain, Chevrolet, Gosh Chevrolet. Yeah, man, like the
I think there's about fourteen of them totale. And you
know what, they just care about their communities man, And
that's what we have to get back to. It's like
we're in this globalization thing where it's like we're worried
about what's going on in China, We're worried about what's
going on and you know the Middle East. Like, but

(57:58):
where the change is going to happen, man, is in
your local communities. Like if everybody just took care of
each other in their local communities, things would change. And
that's what these dealers have brought. You know. We were
just in Danville with Littleton Chevy last Monday weekend before
the Friday Thursday before, we were in South Burlington area. Yeah,

(58:21):
just had some great, great days there, they said. And
and some we've been Rick's been doing some meet and
greets afterwards at the dealerships with handing out a bridge
named Damis and they've just been going spectacular. But yeah,
these dealers just they really care about their communities and
uh that they're they're showing up for them.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. It was some Kia over in Burlington.
I think it's where you guys were on Friday.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Yeah, we're in a I think it was Chamberlain School
a couple of Fridays ago yeah, a couple of Fridays ago.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
And then I think it was I think it was
Veterans Day that Rick was at Alderman Chevrolet.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Yes, I think it was all yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
And Dan Phil speaking of the damn Ville you know.
And I asked Tom, you know, I still haven't had
a I still haven't had an infight to attend one
of the programs at one of the schools.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Still still, well, I'll get you there.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I mean I spoke to listen. Can the guy that
that gets gets me T shirts get me a pass
into one of these schools, go and see one of
these programs.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
Absolutely, I'll get you the schedule as soon as they
get back today. But oh, absolutely, dude, do I need
like what do I need?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Clearance?

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Now? You just got to show up. I'm pretty sure
you'll be good.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
She's going to keep asking Tom. I'm like, Tom, when
when do I get to come here?

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Yeah? Yeah, I'll send you the dates that we're kind
of around here. Uh all right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
I think Tom's nervous.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Maybe maybe JD's gonna steal the show.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
I think I don't think he wants me to to
come into these schools. And and and you know, make
a scene and talk about the muscle implants. Maybe I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Yeah, that's fairly why.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
That's it. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, man, listen,
I hope to to be at one of them soon.
You guys are absolutely killing it. You're crushing it. You're
doing amazing, amazing work in schools, amazing work in communities
with adults, with children, everyone, and you're you're not missing

(01:00:35):
a beat man, every single one of you, even the
behind the scenes guys like Leon. When the hell's he
gonna come on the man? Man, he's busy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
He's busy. I don't know, you get.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Crank's had so many emails in my inbox.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Oh man, I'm sure he does. I'm sure he's always working. Uh.
You guys are really doing unbelievable work. It's so powerful,
it's so uplifting, it so positive. Every Wednesday, I told
Tom the other night, Wednesdays are one of my favorite
days of the week because of what you guys bring. You,

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the message that you guys bring to my airwaves, for
my followers, my listeners, we need more of it. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Well, we just appreciate you Ja d and that we're
allowed to be here every Wednesday. I tune in every Wednesday, man,
and just hear the conversations and they're always great and
it's amazing stuff. We love being here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
I'm so I always feel positive, I always feel inspired
to be better, do more, think differently, and carry on
through the rest of my day with a different mindset.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Well Wednesday, yeah, man, and listen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Sweetheartsinhrooes dot com. Yes, please get on there, folks listening
this morning and support this organ and they should learn more,
see what they're doing, share their website, get on their
social media, have a look, I mean the Instagram everything.
You guys are just you're turning into a bunch of monsters.

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You guys are huge now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Yeah, it's getting wild, man, it's getting wild. Our schedule
is pretty much packed through the rest of the school year.
It's crazy amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
And if your school is not yet involved, sweet sweetheart
sind heroes dot com. That's that's where we should go
start right there. Reach out info.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
At Sweethearts inhears dot com. Send us an email. We'll
get back to you. Get get on the list of
schools that are waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Yeah, we're starting to look towards next year. At this
point get on the train.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Unbelievable. Thank you so much, brother, I appreciate you so much. Listen.
If this UH, if this episode of aired out UH
has gotcha, share it, drop a comment, give a like
right now, give a thumbs up, but mostly share it.

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Follow make sure that others are hearing and seeing exactly
what Sweethearts and Heroes is doing. I'll be up at
Stuff a Truck in a little bit here and I
am so much looking forward to showing you the setup
day for the big event, year number twenty four, which

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is kicking off tomorrow Price Chopper in Berlin. It's going
to be huge and the need has never been great.
Talk about the power of one a lot over the
next couple of days as we team up and partner
up with Stuff a Truck, the pack the pantry event

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again at Price Chopper in Berlin. Have a marvelous rest
of your day. The sun is shining, the eras crisp
and cool, and you know what, it smells great. Get
outside today if you can. We'll catch you soon here
in the aired out podcast, Assass