6x NAIA All-American and 2025 NAIA 10K National Champion Luca Madeo returns to Airey Bros Radio for his second appearance, and a lot has changed since April. In this packed episode, Luca takes us inside his whirlwind summer—winning the German Half Marathon Championship (U23 & Men), running a 28:59 10K PB, placing 17th at the U23 European Championships, and announcing his transfer from the University of the Cumberlands to Adams State University—one of the most dominant distance programs in NCAA history.We dive deep into:
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Show Notes / Timestamps0:00 – Intro & welcome back to Airey Bros Radio
1:09 – Luca’s whirlwind summer since April
3:02 – Preparing to move to Adams State & training at altitude
4:11 – Winning the German Half Marathon Championship (U23 & Men)
5:54 – Running a 28:59 10K PB & qualifying for Europeans
7:32 – Winning the NAIA Outdoor 10K National Championship
10:57 – First half marathon experience & thoughts on future marathons
12:27 – Deciding between NCAA D1 & D2 programs
14:49 – Why altitude training at Adams State was the deciding factor
18:59 – Training alongside elite & pro-level teammates
19:23 – What Luca will miss about the University of the Cumberlands
21:03 – Under-23 European Championships experience in Norway
23:36 – Getting the German national team kit & competing internationally
27:03 – Heat struggles & learning from racing conditions
30:49 – Recovery period & adapting to altitude mileage
36:04 – First impressions of Norway & Scandinavia
39:19 – Family, soccer, and convincing his sister to run
41:47 – Goals for Adams State & helping the team win nationals
44:16 – Final thoughts & future ambitions
- Training & racing across continents
- Winning national titles in challenging conditions
- Transitioning from NAIA to NCAA DII
- The benefits of training at 7,500 feet in Alamosa, Colorado
- Representing Germany on the European stage
- Long-term goals from NCAA competition to a professional career
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Show Notes / Timestamps0:00 – Intro & welcome back to Airey Bros Radio
1:09 – Luca’s whirlwind summer since April
3:02 – Preparing to move to Adams State & training at altitude
4:11 – Winning the German Half Marathon Championship (U23 & Men)
5:54 – Running a 28:59 10K PB & qualifying for Europeans
7:32 – Winning the NAIA Outdoor 10K National Championship
10:57 – First half marathon experience & thoughts on future marathons
12:27 – Deciding between NCAA D1 & D2 programs
14:49 – Why altitude training at Adams State was the deciding factor
18:59 – Training alongside elite & pro-level teammates
19:23 – What Luca will miss about the University of the Cumberlands
21:03 – Under-23 European Championships experience in Norway
23:36 – Getting the German national team kit & competing internationally
27:03 – Heat struggles & learning from racing conditions
30:49 – Recovery period & adapting to altitude mileage
36:04 – First impressions of Norway & Scandinavia
39:19 – Family, soccer, and convincing his sister to run
41:47 – Goals for Adams State & helping the team win nationals
44:16 – Final thoughts & future ambitions
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for round two, lucam Deo's joining us again today. Since
we last met in April, I believe it was Luca
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has been on a bit of a tear. He is
the German under twenty three men's half marathon champion. He
ran a sixty four to fifty five. He finished second
at the German Under twenty three ten thousand meters Championships
in a new PB of twenty eight to fifty nine.
He won the twenty twenty five na IA ten K
Outdoor National Championships. He was seventeenth at the Under twenty
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three European Championships ten k in Norway, and he is
a six time NAIA All American and as well. He
is now on the move, transferring to distance powerhouse Adam
State University in Alamosa, Colorado. Lucas story is one of courage,
commitment and climbing the next mountain. Let's spike up and
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get into it with Luca joining us live from Germany
without further ado, Luca, it is an honor the pleasure
to have you back with us again. We do greatly
appreciate your time. How are things going in Germany right now?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Thank you so much first for the time, and I
appreciate it a lot that I can be here. Yes,
things going good. I arrived after Europeans like one week
ago and now it's like more the time last week
to recover and we're going to start slowly to build
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up again for the next time for the next competitions
in cross country in the United States.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And I'm really excited for it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, we want to get into it. I think we'll
probably backtrack starting with the European Championships and then move
backwards from there. But when are you coming back state
side again? When you're going to be back in the
United States, go in Alamosa and I.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Am traveling exactly in two weeks, two weeks in Colorado, Yes,
and I'm pretty excited.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
For Yeah, we're excited to get into Jimmy and I
have lived in Colorado for not now, but we live
there for a while and we long to get back
into the mountains. So we were very excited when we
saw Obviously we were a little disappointed to see leave
the Cumberlands, but if we were going to see you
go anywhere, we were happy to see you go somewhere
in Colorado because they're doing they do great things in Alamosa,
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and some of our previous guests have been athletes there
as well, and some coaches too, So we're excited to
hear that. Anything anything you got going on anywhere, you
want people to find you on social media, we'll give
you that time right now. Put out your social so
that folks can follow along on your journey as you
head back over here and follow you this fall in
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the cross country season.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So now I'm back on social media since that spring.
My name is on Instagram and if you want to
add and snapshit, you can do it. My name is
Luca l u C A dot M A D E
O O with two o's. Yes, so that's my two
main media accounts. And I would like when when you
(04:12):
go as follow and yes, there you see the most
insights of my life.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We'll put all that stuff in the show notes for
you as well. We'll get you that little airy brose bump.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So Luca, I know, I know which said we want
to cover Europeans, but I want to cover winning the
national title at the nai A National Championship. How did
that go? How did that hold me go in general?
And what always like to get back on tou of
the podium.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yes, it was. It was a crazy spring like in general,
I was.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
A happy feeling that I have been more in airplanes
than somewhere else because after we talked, it was like
kind of a secret. So so I didn't point it
out in our first podcast. But I flew back to
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Germany for the under twenty three ten k Championship because
there I had to become top three to qualify for Europeans,
and obviously I made it, but before it was like
more like for like a training long run. I competed
at the German Health Marathon and Championship and I don't
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I still don't.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Know how, but I won. Like in general, I.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Had also lucked at early marathon was like one week
or two weeks ago, so nobody of the reappros from
Germany ran there. So I once suddenly the under twenty
three and the man and that was a huge step
for me and a kick in my first health marathon.
But that was not so much a point because my
goal was to raise the Europeans. So two weeks later
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I traveled to ham Hamburg got second there with a
new PR of twenty eight fifty nine, finally sub twenty nine.
Because I was a little bit kind of angry because
I didn't broke it in Raleigh, but now I did it.
Then I was like four weeks in Germany. Then I
traveled back to the United States. Three days later, I
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competed in Cleveland, Tennessee to get like the five k
national standard for five k out outdoor. I just ran
there like fourteen twenty just to get a standard. And
then one week later I competed at the ten k
National Championship in.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Indiana, and it was pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, so, was there any books involved in the spring
semester any what any school involved in this?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, yeah, yeah, so we we talked also to the
profess so because it was like not like an emergency
situation but a specialist situation for me. And I did
everything before or online, so it was no problem, and
the most causes I had also online, so it was
no problem.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I really appreciate Coach Soda that.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
He let me go, but I promised him that I'm
gonna come back, and I promised him also that I'm
gonna win the ten k for him for sure, that
we have like the ten points and yes, so, and
then I won the ten k by NA Nationals and
it was completely different than expected because last year it
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was super super hot, and that year it was I
mean last year for sure it was like eighty to ninety.
Farrenh had there also in the night, and that year
maybe forty to fifty and so windy and rainy. Yeah,
but it was overall it was a great race.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, retired when you got the nationals for the ten
k after your travel and the half marathon and all
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So the Health Marathon it was just like for like
more a tempo session. But then I saw that I
can win the under twenty three for sure after.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Seven miles, and then after ten miles.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I was feeling okay, I can win individual everything, so
two gold medals and then I went next odd Yeah.
Then the ten k twenty eight fifty nine was also
not perfect conditions was also pretty windy, but really really
good like fifty five night in general perfect. I had
like a good, good group and then I was completely
(08:42):
happy and then I came back. Then I raised the
five k because I had to get the standard because
I promised coach disorders.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So I did it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And then by the ten k nationals, no, I felt
really really good. It was maybe you guys watched it,
but I take the front. I think after one mile
because I was in the back, and then it felt
too smooth because I didn't want to sprint in the
end hard, so I just took it, and I think
I went with thirty twelve, but then I just jogged.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The last lap behind me was like another guy. He
tried to stick with me.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But then I felt pretty strong and everything went went well.
But two days later the five k was really really bad,
and maybe it was too much races, but it was
also tactical, really really and bad for me. I mean
I still can learn a lot because I run only
since almost.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Five years now.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, and I think I had also stomach problems in
the five k final because I think I ate something
wrong or I ate too much of one one thing.
So it was like a learning provocusist. I wanted the
second All American medals so bad. Then I got ninth.
Yes was good because maybe it tumbled me also a
little bit, and I learned a lot like ter raise
(10:03):
also tactical smarter because after ten k you cannot run
everything from the front like me from the ten k,
and I mean I learned from it. I mean my
goal was and I promised Corchoto to win the ten k.
I made it, but in the end, I think our
team from out the nationals was pretty disappointed because we
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scored only thirty eight points I guess, and got only
six and we scored in distance event only me, and
when you see our roster before, you think we score
like so much more points and then it was just me,
And I was also pretty disappointed with myself after the
five k, I was absolutely not happy and maybe I
(10:46):
thought it was too easy, but in general, my goal
was to win the ten k, and I mean two
times national champion is really good. I'm really happy and yeah,
now next year I'm gonna get it better. But won
two divisions more up?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, Now was that sixty four fifty five? Is that
your first ever half marathon race?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah? It was, and we did and we did nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We did nothing for it, like like of course I
have like the threshold and like everything, but we did
know nothing specific. Yeah, I also don't know how the
course was. Also the course was also it was also
kind of windy. It was also not completely flat, but
in general it was good. But I think I can
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run thirty seconds or one minute faster for sure, because
our negative split wasn't sane. The first ten k was
like thirty to thirty and the last and the last
ten k was like thirty twenty and the last k was.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Like two forty eight or something. So so marathon in
your future.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Absolutely, yeah, but it's gone through college first.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But yeah, first college and yeah, but in the future yes,
but first five K ten kure marathon maybe in five
years or nother. But health marathon is like a good
indicator also how are your thresholders. It's like also scientific based,
so it was also good to see it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That's a pretty good debut for sure, So go ahead, jam.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So when did Adam say come into play? When did
you know that was in your back pocket and that
you were going to al Mosa mm hm.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So after my ten k, I decided because around the
fourth fast time in NA history, and I decided for
myself that I'm going to try it. I'm going to
try NCAA And my first, like my first wish was
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to go to altitude because I think I can benefit
a lot from it. I mean, Adam states at seven thousand,
five and fifty feet is like twenty three hundred meter.
It's like the same elevation as Kenya, even higher than
even higher in Colorado Springs or Boulder or Saint Muris
(13:20):
in Switzerland or even South Africa where like all the
other pro training. So I really am I really want
to go to altitude. So yes, even when we talked
in our first podcast, coach Sola and like everyone knows
already that I'm going to transfer, but I didn't want
to point it out because first I want to concentrate
it on nationals. I did it also, but I talked
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also to a lot of schools and then in the
end to a lot of really really good schools. So
we're talking also about schools who wanted me, who won
like in the last five years D one Cross so
like Anau, Oklahoma State, but by you they didn't offer enough,
but Oklahoma State was really interested. The University of Texas
(14:04):
like he was really interested. Then other really good schools Portland,
also wing Gate, Yeah, and like a lot more so
I had like a lot, a lot of office. And
then in the end I decided mainly D one is
too high for me now, but I think D two
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for me is perfectly because there was a really really
strong team to train. I mean, Adam State they have
like Roma Lejoto, he around like thirteen oh two indoor,
So it was this crazy and there's like a lot
of people who faster than me, not a lot, but
two three four guys and I can really train good
with them. And I want to combine an altitude with
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my aerobic fitness and I really hope that it will
get me to my goal to some pro into the
three years. So that's the reason why I signed with
Adam State. And I signed in one week after I
came back from the USA.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Were you in a transfer portal or were they just reaching.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And I was not in a transfer portal and the
athletes don't have a transfer portal. You can do it.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
But with my agency and with my manager together and
also a lot of contacted me also EQ. They all
contact me also about Instagram. So yeah, I had like
two months to figure it out. In the end, I
could take also more time, but I signed everything in
(15:34):
beginning of June. Yes, but I talked with them like
over social media. They contacted my manager and my agency something.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Coach sort also helped me. Yes, I really appreciate it.
He also helped me. He gets also in contact with
like really good schools. Yeah, he talked also to Adam State.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
So yeah, now the you.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Know, you mentioned that the altitude was an important factor
to you. But with the squad that they have a
wing Gate with the international students, were they were they
down to the wire? Were they one of the finalists
because because of the international students that they have. Was
that a factor for you.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
At all at Adam State? Yes, I mean it with
wing Gate.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It was wing Gate in that conversation because of their Yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Was also in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
But I first, it's going to really adventure for me
because I've never been in an altitude before. I mean, yes,
I mean maybe I climbed them mountain like one de
but I never trained in altitude.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So it's going to be an adventure.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
But I think I can really benefit from it, and
that's the reason, and that's the reason why I choose it,
Like for example, over hot weather in Florida or California
or tex site also pretty good office there. I know
it's going to be really cold there, but they have
also in the facility and more so. Yes, so I
really want to try to and I think it can
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get me a lot of benefit, especially when I travel
to level to compete in the important races in California
or some whorld.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No, no doubt. I think that's important to highlight because
I think sometimes when student athletes are looking at schools,
you know, maybe they they're thinking of a lot of
different things, whether it's finances or locations and stuff. But
I think from a distance running perspective, it is important
to keep that location in the whole equation of when
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you're selecting your schools, because having that benefit of training
at seventy five hundred feet is can be pretty very I.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Mean it's much more than also than any you or
I think there's only one facility higher. I think it's
Western Coloria University.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, that's it. And it's also there. I mean it's
on a plateau.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's completely flat there, so it's altitude, but it's completely
flat and so much gravel and everything. I think I
can really my knees and my legs and my whole
body can really benefit.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
From it to run so much on gravel and you're
completely lt So yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, you're in the San Luis Valley there, which is
the highest alpine plant yeah desert in the world.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, I mean I've never been in Colorado, So I'm
pretty pretty excited.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, you gotta go. You gotta go check out the
sand dunes. You might see a spaceship or two.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yes, yes, for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And I saw I mean also in social media, I
saw a lot of it, and my future teammates they
also talked about it, so yeah, I'm pretty pretty excited
for it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
There's also different animals and everything, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Does Romans still have eligibility?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
He's he's signed pro with Nike.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Coming back, but he's coming back and practicing with us,
So I can practice with a guy who missed the
world qualification directly standed by one second over the five
k and run like six fastest time error in NCAA
in general. So I think I can really benefit from
it to train with Nike pro adlete.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
So I'm pretty excited.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
And I talked with him also a little bit, and
I heard only positive things about also the coaches and
about Adam State, so I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And they've got great uniforms. Yeah, they're sweet, they're sweet looking.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Well, Okay, is there anything you're besides coach showder? Is
there anything you're going to miss about the con Ruins?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yes, of course, I pointed out, I just went away
because I wanted Nationals stay something special for me. I
want also that Conference stay is something special for me
because the conference from Commonlans is like just it's it's
like just for practice. And also Nationals, I think and
(19:55):
I want that I have to work really really hard
even to get like All American battle and that I
don't have in by Na anymore. And yes, I will
miss coach Soder. I will miss also my track there,
also coach James Oberholtzer, the assistant coach.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Also do the whole team.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
A lot of people transferred out there, but I missed
like also my German teammates there, like everyone in general,
the whole area. I mean, I lived there for almost
two years at Pellacchia, so I'm gonna miss it. But
I promised them I'm gonna visit them in the next
one or two years, maybe in spring break or in
(20:38):
fall break or in winter.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, yeah, in general.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So it was pretty emotional when I left, but I'm
gonna visit them. And yes, and I'm really thankful for
the time I had their the most too, the most
amazing years in my life. The last two years for
me personally, so I'm really grateful for it. I pounted
all sort on social media, so yeah, I'm really really happy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Excellent, We're happy for you. Let's get into under twenty
three European Championships. How was that experience for You got
to go to Norway, You got your German warm up on,
you got a whole slew of Nike things. We saw
you posted all the gear. Tell us all about it.
How was it? You know, I think it's every athlete's
dream to get that box of Nike gear. Did it
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deal with their country's uniforms and stuff. It's got to
be a very prideful experience to be able to represent
your country in a global championship. So how was your
experience in Norway?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yes, so first I knew, like by the beginner's May
that I'm gonna select it because top three rift the
time going to selected my Germany.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
The official selection was made.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Two weeks before the first week in July, two weeks
before European Championships, because the other like one hundred and
two hundred and five KDD to qualificate by the other
German championship. But I knew it then after the championship,
I got like the official selection mails and it was
pretty overwhelming and it was super cool. And then I
(22:14):
got my big suitcase with like I think forty pieces,
so I have I have like now seven warm up
jackets that one, so many shirts, shorts, shoes, capes. It
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was so crazy and I posted also on a social
media and then when I opened the bag and then
I saw the national jersey and it was revery emotional
for me because it was my childhood dream and earlier.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
To compete for Germany.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I mean, I want, like every little boy in Europe
wanted to be like a soccer player. I mean I
mentioned by last podcast, I played like five years soccer,
but then I turned in twenty twenty twenty one and
then I.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Had like the chance to compete for Germany.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And then I saw the jersey and like everything every
mile was worth and I got really emotional. And then
I got like also my ticket to fly with the
German national team. Then one week later, on like exactly
two weeks ago, a few to know away with the
whole German national team and with the then I saw
the stadium. Like the other teams, we was in the
(23:30):
big team hotel. There was like five big team hotels.
We was like with other big nations and Germany, Portugal,
Spain and then like other little nations, and it was
so cool. Germany had like also the biggest team. We
had sixty now ninety six athletes from men and women,
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and so many doctors and like for massage and like
others and social media. Team was so cool. Yeah, it
was a little bit overwhelming. Yeah, and then I ran
on a first day at eleven amst or five pm
(24:16):
European time, my first competition for the German Eagle. Yes,
and yeah it was Yeah, it was pretty overwhelming everything
because I've never been at so professional meet. It's crazy.
The call room was in a mountain. It was absolutely insane,
(24:37):
so many volunteers. You had to think about so many
things about your accredation card.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Everything was so.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Crazy and I didn't even expect that this day was packed,
but like was like fifty percent sold out and you
didn't could see it on the videos because there where
the camera was but beside the whole was completely full.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And it was so crazy. But the conditions was not
the best.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Now you got that you got all that gear, you
said you got like forty pieces and stuff. One of
the things Jim and I used to do. We used
to go to the wrestling National Championships with our gear
from Team New Jersey. Is you look to trade different
pieces of gear with people from other teams or other countries.
Did you make any trades? Did you trade eagles for
some other countries?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, but it's not local. So first it's not a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh okay, it's not a lot because you have like
the gear for four years until the new Olympic cycle.
So when there's the Olympics in La twenty twenty eight,
then there is new stuff. So I have to keep
it and if I ran for Germany in the next
three years, I have to wear it the same. But
of course I changed one thing if Luca Santoo oh yeah, yeah,
(25:54):
and because I'm like also kind of I mean, my
dad is like the grand the dad from Dad's from Italy,
so I changed like with like an Italian long sleep
from Lucas and toom. Yes, but there was a lot
of people. They took the old gear from like the
last years and then they traded so much. But I
just won't like to have a piece from Italy and
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I got one, so yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
But there are other things.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm also not allowed to wear like in practice only
in twenty twenty eight, so they're in mind. So they
washed in my suitcase and if I compete then yeah
then I can't bear it, but otherwise not But it's crazy,
it's so much. Yeah, it was so overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
So you mentioned it being so overwhelming, the scale of
the stadium, the.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Warm up in the mountain. Were you able to perform?
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Did you get kind of lost in the atmosphere or
were you able to business? Minute that gun went off?
It was business?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So first, I really really I didn't run any competition
in Juri between the between my last race for Cumberlands
and the Europeans. I really, I mean I did one
hundred my weeks, like four weeks in a row in June.
I prepared really, really exactly for it. I did also
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heat heat training because you never know. That problem is
that Norway have like one hot week in a year
normally there on the coast is like I mean, it's
directly on the west coast from Norway, so normally it's
in some of the fifty to sixty four not more,
but of course in that week it was eighty to
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nine to ninety and I mean I practiced a lot
in the heat, but I knew it before. I'm not
a heat runner. I did a lot of heat practice.
We also simulated. But that's what's also the reason why
I could perform so good at Raleigh Relays, in Hamburg
by Health Marathon, and even by ten k National Championship
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by the NA because it was cold, not cold, but
fifty sixty forty fahrenheit. And this was the problem. It
was just too hot. It was at seven pm. I
was after three k already completely overheated. I just too
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cool down. But yeah, you can see it like awesome pictures.
I was so red after the race, and it was
the most hottest race in my life. And like other
people didn't have the problem. And I was a little
bit annoyed by it after because so many people beat me.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They're like thirty or thirty five seconds.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Slower than me from the pr like people more from
the southern and European countries.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But I overtook all the people. They're like much faster than.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Me, like from the modern northern countries like England or Ireland.
But in the end, I mean in the end, the
first three or first five, I mean they're like pro
athletes or like almost pro, and of course they won.
There's the difference between a college athlete who practiced since
five years and like pro runner they have pro contract
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with Nike, you or like editor Supuma. Yeah, so I
was kind of annoyed because my goal was top fifteen.
Then I got seventeen, but only with thirty oh six,
and it felt like max out. But I mean, I
can just say it in Celsius, it was like twenty
eight degrees in the shade there, and that in the
sun it's like thirty five to forty because also the
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red track it also reflected, so people said also in
the sun it was like ninety five fairreonhead ish and
you cannot and I cannot run fast there.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So I was in pretty good shape.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
If it would be cool, I think I could make
like in the best case, maybe ninth, tenth, eleven or twelve.
Now I got seventeenth. I'm still with my pr I
would win this, but of course, I mean, of course
they can run and bosso far. But I was expecting
to get twelve or eleventh. Now I got seventeenth out
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of twenty five. So yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Kind of annoyed.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
But It was also my first competition and I can
say that, like my time is still eleven fast time
in Europe.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
This year I got seventeenth.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
It was not too bad, but I know that I
just have to do more hit training, I guess. So
this is the only thing because I was top fit
I did also. I was also in labor two weeks
before the chairmanship. I'm posted as on social media with
like blood with leg tay testing. I have now exactly
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my three milli moll or like my individual threshold with
view two max, with blood, with everything. So they checked
me completely through and I was fit like never before.
But yeah, I knew it before. I'm not a heat runner,
so I just write the best out of it. And
I mean seventeenth in Europe is seventeenth of Europe with
five and fifty million people in wiscontinent. So yeah, yeah,
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I went away in Germany with like in German we
say I go away with a smiling and with a
trying tier. It's like it's like a quote, so yes,
yeah bid a sweet Yeah. I mean, I was not
expecting to go top seven, so I was expecting like
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seven five places better. But in the end, I mean
I achieved my dream. I competed for Germany, and of
course now I'm hungry for more.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Will you represent Germany for the half marathon World Championships.
Is that something that you're entertaining or has that been
an option presented?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
No, I'm not fast enough, not yet.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I mean, we have guys around sixty sixty one, sixty two,
but I'm going to work on it. Maybe in three
four years after college. Yeah, I think that's my future
ten k up.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
In terms of heat training, have you did you dabble
on the sauna at all? Bleeding into that or is
that something you're gonna look to do more in the future.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
So now the next competition is not gonna be hot.
So I saw my schedule. I mean I did some
easy runs you can do really, I mean normally the
hard practice you should not do, like with like more
close on. I just did in some a little bit
like long sleeve for the easy runs, and like it's
also heat training effect. And I mean I practice also
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a lot on a treadmill. It's so hot, and I'm
glad that I did it because afterwards maybe get like
on only twenty for something. But I will gonna work
more on it. When I know I will raised for Germany.
But next year for sure not because next year is
I'm first year by senior, so a next year I
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was European Championship for senior and I mean I'm like
number nine, I think over ten k in whole Germany
for the seniors. So maybe in three years or in
two years, I'm going to compete the next time for Germany.
But I think we will go figure something out by
Adam State for nationals. But we're going to see. Right now,
I'm pretty happy that I don't have to raise in
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heat anymore because I re don't like it.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And so now you have two years of eligibility, do
you have a red shirt year as well too available
to you.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yes, we're going to figure it out how but I
have six seasons to cross country to indoor to outdoor,
and we're going to see how I can rechirt because
I mean I can stay three years at Adam State.
But for sure I'm going to raise this cross cross
country season, so I'm not going to redchet that.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So for sure I'm going to raise that. And then
we don't see.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Okay, And now when you said you taking kind of
a down recovery, reciperio, regroup and everything. When you get
back into it, what like when you jump back in
the training, where where do you sit mileage wise? I
know you mentioned you did four weeks one hundred mile weeks.
When you get back into it, how what's your first
week of mileage you're going to be and how long
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before you get back in one hundred mile weeks?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So first, first to answer the question, I took off
like four days after like I raced on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So I took off like.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I started last week Tuesday, just with easy jogging I
had last week, I think just forty miles, so like
seventy k that reincreases a little bit. I start also
to practicing now because coach Solder prepared me for Europeans.
This was like his last goal and I did his
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schedule and now am i German national coach and I
started today with the schedule from Adam State. Now I
think I will just run easy. I mean last week,
this week and maybe one threshold session we're going to see,
but not more than sixty miles for sure. Then I'm
traveling to altitude and then we have to see so
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many people adapted, like after four days in altitude. Some
people need like two to three weeks, so but I
think I'm going to be in one hundred my weeks
if I don't got sick or something. I think at
least last week August, first week September, so like ninety miles,
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ninety five, one hundred something like that. But I think
I need like three to four weeks more because I
have absolutely no idea how my body will react on altitude.
So we're going to see and slowly. Because my first
cross country race is twenty seventh of September in Wisconsin.
It's pre national course and there I have to perform.
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So today we have the twenty eight so two months
to go. And yeah, so maybe in four weeks I
will be completely in double practice and with one mile
weeks maybe also only nine ninety, maybe also only seventy.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I don't know how my body will.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
How to debt, but I think I'm positive if I
do it slowly in the first one or two weeks,
then I think I don't think get fine big or yeah,
I mean it's pretty high, seven five hundred feets is
I mean, it's like Kenya, so it's like not a
little bit attitude like South Africa or Switzerland.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So but I'm I'm positive.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, Jimmy and I lived at ten thousand feet, so
we know what it's all about. We were in Ledville
for a while. We're Leadville, Colorado. It's it's probably about
three hours northeast of Alamosa.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah, yeah, then it's more. And the ten thousand it's crazy.
I think there's no I think. I mean the highest
college I think is Western Corolia University, so I think
it's like eight thousand something because I think twenty three
hundred is already really really high. So I mean it's
almost the highest people train.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, you don't really go much higher than that for
effective training. Did you get to enjoy Norway at all
while you were after the race and stuff? Did you
get to do this?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
It's a pretty it's a really really pretty country. I
never been there before. I visited also one week big
enough June, Denmark, and I've never been in Scandinavia and
so pretty, so clean, and like the valleys, I mean,
no Way is well famous for the valleys, like the
valleys to the ocean.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It's really really pretty.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
And I was one time in downtown in Bergen because
our hotel and the stadium was like a little bit
like suburban outside, like twenty twenty five minutes with the car.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But I saw it one time and it was really pretty.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
And I think I'm going to be back in Scandinavia,
but then maybe another country or maybe no, no, we're
going to see but Sweden and Finland should be also
amazing countries. And yeah, but I was really happy to
see a newcome country and I've never been in And
it's pretty expensive there, really really expensive, but it was
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worth for the one week.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, imagine your little your little trade with your former teammate.
Did you guys get to catch some miles together? Did
you go for some runs while you were in Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
No, no, no, And we trade on the last day
and we took both off the photos and we didn't
see each other before because his hotel was like away.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, did you run the eight or that fifteen hundred?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You run the fifteen hundred?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
How did he do?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
He said he was not happy because it didn't make
the fun. But like the level this year, it was
so stacked together, absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, so what's your downtime? Look click now you get
to enjoy joy home?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yes, right now, right now?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Here.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It was really hot in Germany, ninety to fareheit in June,
and now it's pretty cold, not pretty cold, but maybe
seventy fair night and rain all the time. But yes,
I enjoyed the time with my family because then I'm
not going to see them after like two weeks, so
I spent a lot of time with them.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, so I really enjoy it here. Do you have
any siblings, Yes, I've won sibling.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Older, younger.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
She is younger.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Guys get along, yes, pretty good sometimes but right now no, no,
but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I mean we are both not so like, kind of dult,
so that's fine.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Is she running yet?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
No, she is playing soccer. But I've tried to convince her.
It's pretty difficult. I hope, I hope.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I can change your mind. But she's happy writ now
with soccer.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And I think that little kids, especially when I mean
she's thirteen years old. Okay, I think, like kids, they
should do what they feel to do.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I can understand why women are like in general, people
who are thirteen years old, they don't want to run
alone all the time.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
So yeah, understandable.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
But she's really gisted in the same athletic club as me.
So she can go back anytime she wants, but she
has to practice a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
First, plenty of time, plenty of time to convince.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Her yes, I mean like me, I started with almost
eighteen so yeah, so much time.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Look, I appreciate your insight and your perspective. You are
a student of the game. To hear you talk about
racist talk about your training, I can tell your scientists
when it comes to this stuff. And we appreciate this
because we are nerds when it comes to our sports,
so we appreciate that. And I just appreciate you reaching out,
coming on and when you're when you're an All American
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at Adam State, don't forget get the air Bros. And
don't be surprised if we show up at your doorstep.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
No, no, for sure, that's I mean pretty honestly. That's
also the goal. My goal is to help the team
as good as possible to win nationals. I know it's
going to be really tough. We have two other really
good teams, two or three. But my goal, of course
is to become I don't know which place yet, but
of course if I want to help the team, I
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have to become All American because if you want to
one cross country, you need five all Americans or even
more so.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, and I'm pretty.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Optimistic that I can do it and that I can
help the team at least on the podium for sure,
and then we're going to see what we can do
and we're gonna yeah. See, I'm pretty excited.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
And just make sure you enjoy everything. And I know
it's easier said than done, but I know you had
a world wind spring, but that is stuff that Rich
and I live for, as far as travel competing, So
enjoy every bit of it. And if there's anything on
the world win since we last talked that we haven't
spoke of. Let's talk about it now. If you have
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anything else you want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
No, just that.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I am like in my heart, I'm still also from
Cumberlance because I own them so much, and I told
them all already I'm their biggest fan for cross country.
And if there is a live stream, of course I'm
gonna watch it. And I'm pretty pretty sure if everything
goes well, that they have a pretty pretty good chance
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to win that year cross country, and nobody would be
more happier than me to see all these guys. Also,
the newcomers and also Courtsoda and James to have the
trophy because then they achieved on the men's side everything.
And yes, and I'm pretty excited and of course for
myself for Adam State. Yet I have some times I
want to achieve. Depends also on the course. National course
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is going to be really really hilly, and of course
w Wisconsin it's going to be called especially on the sea.
So I watched already some videos. The predicted is going
to be snow and really hilly. But yes, so in
my head, I'm still also with Cumberlands and I'm always
their biggest fan because I know how much I own
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this great university. But I'm also pretty excited for my
next step and I hope it can that I can
achieve everything what I'm dreaming of.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Well, we're excited for you, we believe in you, and
we're looking forward to following your next journey over into Almos.
As it said, Jimmy and I are not in Colorado
right now, what we spent quite a bit of time
in Colorado. Definitely a part of our heart is still there.
So we were very excited to see the Adam State
logo popped up when you sign there and Coach Martin
does a great job. And you know coach v Hill
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rest in peace, just passed away not too long ago
last week. You know that they have such a rich tradition.
I think you're destined to do great things there, my friend.
So we are excited to follow your journey for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Thank you very much, well good, Thank you so much
for your time, sir. Can't wait to follow you at
Adam State.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Of course, thank you so much for the time. I
appreciate a lot.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
And we're going to stay in contact and yes, stay
safe and healthy.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Thank you sir. Ladies and gentlemen that's looking today, make
sure you go follow him on Instagram. He's doing great
things and he's going to be representing the yellow and
Green out there at Adam State. He's going to be
a grizzly, so make sure you follow along this fall
see what they got going on. It is no small
task to take on the armac conference, so we're excited
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to see what happens there and then obviously he'll be
battling with our friends at wing Gate, so give him
a follow on social media. We will be back on
Wednesday evening. Joe Allaher will be joining us. We're gonna
be stepping back on the mat and we're gonna be
talking a little bit of jiu jitsu, some self defense,
and all the great things that they got going on
in Mommouth County. So we'll see you back here on
Wednesday night. Appreciate you tuning in. Have a great day.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, how do you Aloha? Welcome back to
another episode of Airy Bros. Radio. We are here and
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Today we're lating up to Spikes is stepping back on
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one of our fastest, fiercest, and most aspiring young distance
runners out there. Y'all know why we do this. It's
for athletes, families and coaches still search it for the
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right fit. You don't have to go d one to
go big, and if you're an international student athlete trying
to make your mark in the US, today's conversation is
packed with insight on navigating that journey from school selection
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this episode is fueled by Black Sheep Endurance Coaching. Back
for round two, lucam Deo's joining us again today. Since
we last met in April, I believe it was Luca
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has been on a bit of a tear. He is
the German under twenty three men's half marathon champion. He
ran a sixty four to fifty five. He finished second
at the German Under twenty three ten thousand meters Championships
in a new PB of twenty eight to fifty nine.
He won the twenty twenty five na IA ten K
Outdoor National Championships. He was seventeenth at the Under twenty
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three European Championships ten k in Norway, and he is
a six time NAIA All American and as well. He
is now on the move, transferring to distance powerhouse Adam
State University in Alamosa, Colorado. Lucas story is one of courage,
commitment and climbing the next mountain. Let's spike up and
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get into it with Luca joining us live from Germany
without further ado, Luca, it is an honor the pleasure
to have you back with us again. We do greatly
appreciate your time. How are things going in Germany right now?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Thank you so much first for the time, and I
appreciate it a lot that I can be here. Yes,
things going good. I arrived after Europeans like one week
ago and now it's like more the time last week
to recover and we're going to start slowly to build
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up again for the next time for the next competitions
in cross country in the United States.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And I'm really excited for it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, we want to get into it. I think we'll
probably backtrack starting with the European Championships and then move
backwards from there. But when are you coming back state
side again? When you're going to be back in the
United States, go in Alamosa and I.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Am traveling exactly in two weeks, two weeks in Colorado, Yes,
and I'm pretty excited.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
For Yeah, we're excited to get into Jimmy and I
have lived in Colorado for not now, but we live
there for a while and we long to get back
into the mountains. So we were very excited when we
saw Obviously we were a little disappointed to see leave
the Cumberlands, but if we were going to see you
go anywhere, we were happy to see you go somewhere
in Colorado because they're doing they do great things in Alamosa,
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and some of our previous guests have been athletes there
as well, and some coaches too, So we're excited to
hear that. Anything anything you got going on anywhere, you
want people to find you on social media, we'll give
you that time right now. Put out your social so
that folks can follow along on your journey as you
head back over here and follow you this fall in
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the cross country season.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So now I'm back on social media since that spring.
My name is on Instagram and if you want to
add and snapshit, you can do it. My name is
Luca l u C A dot M A D E
O O with two o's. Yes, so that's my two
main media accounts. And I would like when when you
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go as follow and yes, there you see the most
insights of my life.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We'll put all that stuff in the show notes for
you as well. We'll get you that little airy brose bump.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So Luca, I know, I know which said we want
to cover Europeans, but I want to cover winning the
national title at the nai A National Championship. How did
that go? How did that hold me go in general?
And what always like to get back on tou of
the podium.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yes, it was. It was a crazy spring like in general,
I was.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
A happy feeling that I have been more in airplanes
than somewhere else because after we talked, it was like
kind of a secret. So so I didn't point it
out in our first podcast. But I flew back to
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Germany for the under twenty three ten k Championship because
there I had to become top three to qualify for Europeans,
and obviously I made it, but before it was like
more like for like a training long run. I competed
at the German Health Marathon and Championship and I don't
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I still don't.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Know how, but I won. Like in general, I.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Had also lucked at early marathon was like one week
or two weeks ago, so nobody of the reappros from
Germany ran there. So I once suddenly the under twenty
three and the man and that was a huge step
for me and a kick in my first health marathon.
But that was not so much a point because my
goal was to raise the Europeans. So two weeks later
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I traveled to ham Hamburg got second there with a
new PR of twenty eight fifty nine, finally sub twenty nine.
Because I was a little bit kind of angry because
I didn't broke it in Raleigh, but now I did it.
Then I was like four weeks in Germany. Then I
traveled back to the United States. Three days later, I
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competed in Cleveland, Tennessee to get like the five k
national standard for five k out outdoor. I just ran
there like fourteen twenty just to get a standard. And
then one week later I competed at the ten k
National Championship in.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Indiana, and it was pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, so, was there any books involved in the spring
semester any what any school involved in this?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, yeah, yeah, so we we talked also to the
profess so because it was like not like an emergency
situation but a specialist situation for me. And I did
everything before or online, so it was no problem, and
the most causes I had also online, so it was
no problem.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I really appreciate Coach Soda that.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
He let me go, but I promised him that I'm
gonna come back, and I promised him also that I'm
gonna win the ten k for him for sure, that
we have like the ten points and yes, so, and
then I won the ten k by NA Nationals and
it was completely different than expected because last year it
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was super super hot, and that year it was I
mean last year for sure it was like eighty to ninety.
Farrenh had there also in the night, and that year
maybe forty to fifty and so windy and rainy. Yeah,
but it was overall it was a great race.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, retired when you got the nationals for the ten
k after your travel and the half marathon and all
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So the Health Marathon it was just like for like
more a tempo session. But then I saw that I
can win the under twenty three for sure after.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Seven miles, and then after ten miles.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I was feeling okay, I can win individual everything, so
two gold medals and then I went next odd Yeah.
Then the ten k twenty eight fifty nine was also
not perfect conditions was also pretty windy, but really really
good like fifty five night in general perfect. I had
like a good, good group and then I was completely
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happy and then I came back. Then I raised the
five k because I had to get the standard because
I promised coach disorders.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So I did it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And then by the ten k nationals, no, I felt
really really good. It was maybe you guys watched it,
but I take the front. I think after one mile
because I was in the back, and then it felt
too smooth because I didn't want to sprint in the
end hard, so I just took it, and I think
I went with thirty twelve, but then I just jogged.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The last lap behind me was like another guy. He
tried to stick with me.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But then I felt pretty strong and everything went went well.
But two days later the five k was really really bad,
and maybe it was too much races, but it was
also tactical, really really and bad for me. I mean
I still can learn a lot because I run only
since almost.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Five years now.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, and I think I had also stomach problems in
the five k final because I think I ate something
wrong or I ate too much of one one thing.
So it was like a learning provocusist. I wanted the
second All American medals so bad. Then I got ninth.
Yes was good because maybe it tumbled me also a
little bit, and I learned a lot like ter raise
(10:03):
also tactical smarter because after ten k you cannot run
everything from the front like me from the ten k,
and I mean I learned from it. I mean my
goal was and I promised Corchoto to win the ten k.
I made it, but in the end, I think our
team from out the nationals was pretty disappointed because we
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scored only thirty eight points I guess, and got only
six and we scored in distance event only me, and
when you see our roster before, you think we score
like so much more points and then it was just me,
And I was also pretty disappointed with myself after the
five k, I was absolutely not happy and maybe I
(10:46):
thought it was too easy, but in general, my goal
was to win the ten k, and I mean two
times national champion is really good. I'm really happy and yeah,
now next year I'm gonna get it better. But won
two divisions more up?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, Now was that sixty four fifty five? Is that
your first ever half marathon race?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah? It was, and we did and we did nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We did nothing for it, like like of course I
have like the threshold and like everything, but we did
know nothing specific. Yeah, I also don't know how the
course was. Also the course was also it was also
kind of windy. It was also not completely flat, but
in general it was good. But I think I can
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run thirty seconds or one minute faster for sure, because
our negative split wasn't sane. The first ten k was
like thirty to thirty and the last and the last
ten k was like thirty twenty and the last k was.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Like two forty eight or something. So so marathon in
your future.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Absolutely, yeah, but it's gone through college first.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But yeah, first college and yeah, but in the future yes,
but first five K ten kure marathon maybe in five
years or nother. But health marathon is like a good
indicator also how are your thresholders. It's like also scientific based,
so it was also good to see it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That's a pretty good debut for sure, So go ahead, jam.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So when did Adam say come into play? When did
you know that was in your back pocket and that
you were going to al Mosa mm hm.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So after my ten k, I decided because around the
fourth fast time in NA history, and I decided for
myself that I'm going to try it. I'm going to
try NCAA And my first, like my first wish was
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to go to altitude because I think I can benefit
a lot from it. I mean, Adam states at seven thousand,
five and fifty feet is like twenty three hundred meter.
It's like the same elevation as Kenya, even higher than
even higher in Colorado Springs or Boulder or Saint Muris
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in Switzerland or even South Africa where like all the
other pro training. So I really am I really want
to go to altitude. So yes, even when we talked
in our first podcast, coach Sola and like everyone knows
already that I'm going to transfer, but I didn't want
to point it out because first I want to concentrate
it on nationals. I did it also, but I talked
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also to a lot of schools and then in the
end to a lot of really really good schools. So
we're talking also about schools who wanted me, who won
like in the last five years D one Cross so
like Anau, Oklahoma State, but by you they didn't offer enough,
but Oklahoma State was really interested. The University of Texas
(14:04):
like he was really interested. Then other really good schools Portland,
also wing Gate, Yeah, and like a lot more so
I had like a lot, a lot of office. And
then in the end I decided mainly D one is
too high for me now, but I think D two
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for me is perfectly because there was a really really
strong team to train. I mean, Adam State they have
like Roma Lejoto, he around like thirteen oh two indoor,
So it was this crazy and there's like a lot
of people who faster than me, not a lot, but
two three four guys and I can really train good
with them. And I want to combine an altitude with
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my aerobic fitness and I really hope that it will
get me to my goal to some pro into the
three years. So that's the reason why I signed with
Adam State. And I signed in one week after I
came back from the USA.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Were you in a transfer portal or were they just reaching.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And I was not in a transfer portal and the
athletes don't have a transfer portal. You can do it.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
But with my agency and with my manager together and
also a lot of contacted me also EQ. They all
contact me also about Instagram. So yeah, I had like
two months to figure it out. In the end, I
could take also more time, but I signed everything in
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beginning of June. Yes, but I talked with them like
over social media. They contacted my manager and my agency something.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Coach sort also helped me. Yes, I really appreciate it.
He also helped me. He gets also in contact with
like really good schools. Yeah, he talked also to Adam State.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
So yeah, now the you.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Know, you mentioned that the altitude was an important factor
to you. But with the squad that they have a
wing Gate with the international students, were they were they
down to the wire? Were they one of the finalists
because because of the international students that they have. Was
that a factor for you.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
At all at Adam State? Yes, I mean it with
wing Gate.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It was wing Gate in that conversation because of their Yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Was also in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
But I first, it's going to really adventure for me
because I've never been in an altitude before. I mean, yes,
I mean maybe I climbed them mountain like one de
but I never trained in altitude.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So it's going to be an adventure.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
But I think I can really benefit from it, and
that's the reason, and that's the reason why I choose it,
Like for example, over hot weather in Florida or California
or tex site also pretty good office there. I know
it's going to be really cold there, but they have
also in the facility and more so. Yes, so I
really want to try to and I think it can
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get me a lot of benefit, especially when I travel
to level to compete in the important races in California
or some whorld.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No, no doubt. I think that's important to highlight because
I think sometimes when student athletes are looking at schools,
you know, maybe they they're thinking of a lot of
different things, whether it's finances or locations and stuff. But
I think from a distance running perspective, it is important
to keep that location in the whole equation of when
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you're selecting your schools, because having that benefit of training
at seventy five hundred feet is can be pretty very I.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Mean it's much more than also than any you or
I think there's only one facility higher. I think it's
Western Coloria University.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, that's it. And it's also there. I mean it's
on a plateau.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's completely flat there, so it's altitude, but it's completely
flat and so much gravel and everything. I think I
can really my knees and my legs and my whole
body can really benefit.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
From it to run so much on gravel and you're
completely lt So yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, you're in the San Luis Valley there, which is
the highest alpine plant yeah desert in the world.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, I mean I've never been in Colorado, So I'm
pretty pretty excited.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, you gotta go. You gotta go check out the
sand dunes. You might see a spaceship or two.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yes, yes, for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And I saw I mean also in social media, I
saw a lot of it, and my future teammates they
also talked about it, so yeah, I'm pretty pretty excited
for it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
There's also different animals and everything, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Does Romans still have eligibility?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
He's he's signed pro with Nike.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Coming back, but he's coming back and practicing with us,
So I can practice with a guy who missed the
world qualification directly standed by one second over the five
k and run like six fastest time error in NCAA
in general. So I think I can really benefit from
it to train with Nike pro adlete.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
So I'm pretty excited.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
And I talked with him also a little bit, and
I heard only positive things about also the coaches and
about Adam State, so I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And they've got great uniforms. Yeah, they're sweet, they're sweet looking.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Well, Okay, is there anything you're besides coach showder? Is
there anything you're going to miss about the con Ruins?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yes, of course, I pointed out, I just went away
because I wanted Nationals stay something special for me. I
want also that Conference stay is something special for me
because the conference from Commonlans is like just it's it's
like just for practice. And also Nationals, I think and
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I want that I have to work really really hard
even to get like All American battle and that I
don't have in by Na anymore. And yes, I will
miss coach Soder. I will miss also my track there,
also coach James Oberholtzer, the assistant coach.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Also do the whole team.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
A lot of people transferred out there, but I missed
like also my German teammates there, like everyone in general,
the whole area. I mean, I lived there for almost
two years at Pellacchia, so I'm gonna miss it. But
I promised them I'm gonna visit them in the next
one or two years, maybe in spring break or in
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fall break or in winter.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, yeah, in general.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So it was pretty emotional when I left, but I'm
gonna visit them. And yes, and I'm really thankful for
the time I had their the most too, the most
amazing years in my life. The last two years for
me personally, so I'm really grateful for it. I pounted
all sort on social media, so yeah, I'm really really happy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Excellent, We're happy for you. Let's get into under twenty
three European Championships. How was that experience for You got
to go to Norway, You got your German warm up on,
you got a whole slew of Nike things. We saw
you posted all the gear. Tell us all about it.
How was it? You know, I think it's every athlete's
dream to get that box of Nike gear. Did it
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deal with their country's uniforms and stuff. It's got to
be a very prideful experience to be able to represent
your country in a global championship. So how was your
experience in Norway?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yes, so first I knew, like by the beginner's May
that I'm gonna select it because top three rift the
time going to selected my Germany.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
The official selection was made.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Two weeks before the first week in July, two weeks
before European Championships, because the other like one hundred and
two hundred and five KDD to qualificate by the other
German championship. But I knew it then after the championship,
I got like the official selection mails and it was
pretty overwhelming and it was super cool. And then I
(22:14):
got my big suitcase with like I think forty pieces,
so I have I have like now seven warm up
jackets that one, so many shirts, shorts, shoes, capes. It
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was so crazy and I posted also on a social
media and then when I opened the bag and then
I saw the national jersey and it was revery emotional
for me because it was my childhood dream and earlier.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
To compete for Germany.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I mean, I want, like every little boy in Europe
wanted to be like a soccer player. I mean I
mentioned by last podcast, I played like five years soccer,
but then I turned in twenty twenty twenty one and
then I.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Had like the chance to compete for Germany.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And then I saw the jersey and like everything every
mile was worth and I got really emotional. And then
I got like also my ticket to fly with the
German national team. Then one week later, on like exactly
two weeks ago, a few to know away with the
whole German national team and with the then I saw
the stadium. Like the other teams, we was in the
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big team hotel. There was like five big team hotels.
We was like with other big nations and Germany, Portugal,
Spain and then like other little nations, and it was
so cool. Germany had like also the biggest team. We
had sixty now ninety six athletes from men and women,
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and so many doctors and like for massage and like
others and social media. Team was so cool. Yeah, it
was a little bit overwhelming. Yeah, and then I ran
on a first day at eleven amst or five pm
(24:16):
European time, my first competition for the German Eagle. Yes,
and yeah it was Yeah, it was pretty overwhelming everything
because I've never been at so professional meet. It's crazy.
The call room was in a mountain. It was absolutely insane,
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so many volunteers. You had to think about so many
things about your accredation card.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Everything was so.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Crazy and I didn't even expect that this day was packed,
but like was like fifty percent sold out and you
didn't could see it on the videos because there where
the camera was but beside the whole was completely full.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And it was so crazy. But the conditions was not
the best.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Now you got that you got all that gear, you
said you got like forty pieces and stuff. One of
the things Jim and I used to do. We used
to go to the wrestling National Championships with our gear
from Team New Jersey. Is you look to trade different
pieces of gear with people from other teams or other countries.
Did you make any trades? Did you trade eagles for
some other countries?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, but it's not local. So first it's not a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh okay, it's not a lot because you have like
the gear for four years until the new Olympic cycle.
So when there's the Olympics in La twenty twenty eight,
then there is new stuff. So I have to keep
it and if I ran for Germany in the next
three years, I have to wear it the same. But
of course I changed one thing if Luca Santoo oh yeah, yeah,
(25:54):
and because I'm like also kind of I mean, my
dad is like the grand the dad from Dad's from Italy,
so I changed like with like an Italian long sleep
from Lucas and toom. Yes, but there was a lot
of people. They took the old gear from like the
last years and then they traded so much. But I
just won't like to have a piece from Italy and
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I got one, so yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
But there are other things.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm also not allowed to wear like in practice only
in twenty twenty eight, so they're in mind. So they
washed in my suitcase and if I compete then yeah
then I can't bear it, but otherwise not But it's crazy,
it's so much. Yeah, it was so overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
So you mentioned it being so overwhelming, the scale of
the stadium, the.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Warm up in the mountain. Were you able to perform?
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Did you get kind of lost in the atmosphere or
were you able to business? Minute that gun went off?
It was business?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So first, I really really I didn't run any competition
in Juri between the between my last race for Cumberlands
and the Europeans. I really, I mean I did one
hundred my weeks, like four weeks in a row in June.
I prepared really, really exactly for it. I did also
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heat heat training because you never know. That problem is
that Norway have like one hot week in a year
normally there on the coast is like I mean, it's
directly on the west coast from Norway, so normally it's
in some of the fifty to sixty four not more,
but of course in that week it was eighty to
(27:38):
nine to ninety and I mean I practiced a lot
in the heat, but I knew it before. I'm not
a heat runner. I did a lot of heat practice.
We also simulated. But that's what's also the reason why
I could perform so good at Raleigh Relays, in Hamburg
by Health Marathon, and even by ten k National Championship
(28:00):
by the NA because it was cold, not cold, but
fifty sixty forty fahrenheit. And this was the problem. It
was just too hot. It was at seven pm. I
was after three k already completely overheated. I just too
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cool down. But yeah, you can see it like awesome pictures.
I was so red after the race, and it was
the most hottest race in my life. And like other
people didn't have the problem. And I was a little
bit annoyed by it after because so many people beat me.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They're like thirty or thirty five seconds.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Slower than me from the pr like people more from
the southern and European countries.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But I overtook all the people. They're like much faster than.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Me, like from the modern northern countries like England or Ireland.
But in the end, I mean in the end, the
first three or first five, I mean they're like pro
athletes or like almost pro, and of course they won.
There's the difference between a college athlete who practiced since
five years and like pro runner they have pro contract
(29:08):
with Nike, you or like editor Supuma. Yeah, so I
was kind of annoyed because my goal was top fifteen.
Then I got seventeen, but only with thirty oh six,
and it felt like max out. But I mean, I
can just say it in Celsius, it was like twenty
eight degrees in the shade there, and that in the
sun it's like thirty five to forty because also the
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red track it also reflected, so people said also in
the sun it was like ninety five fairreonhead ish and
you cannot and I cannot run fast there.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So I was in pretty good shape.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
If it would be cool, I think I could make
like in the best case, maybe ninth, tenth, eleven or twelve.
Now I got seventeenth. I'm still with my pr I
would win this, but of course, I mean, of course
they can run and bosso far. But I was expecting
to get twelve or eleventh. Now I got seventeenth out
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of twenty five. So yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Kind of annoyed.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
But It was also my first competition and I can
say that, like my time is still eleven fast time
in Europe.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
This year I got seventeenth.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
It was not too bad, but I know that I
just have to do more hit training, I guess. So
this is the only thing because I was top fit
I did also. I was also in labor two weeks
before the chairmanship. I'm posted as on social media with
like blood with leg tay testing. I have now exactly
(30:38):
my three milli moll or like my individual threshold with
view two max, with blood, with everything. So they checked
me completely through and I was fit like never before.
But yeah, I knew it before. I'm not a heat runner,
so I just write the best out of it. And
I mean seventeenth in Europe is seventeenth of Europe with
five and fifty million people in wiscontinent. So yeah, yeah,
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I went away in Germany with like in German we
say I go away with a smiling and with a
trying tier. It's like it's like a quote, so yes,
yeah bid a sweet Yeah. I mean, I was not
expecting to go top seven, so I was expecting like
(31:24):
seven five places better. But in the end, I mean
I achieved my dream. I competed for Germany, and of
course now I'm hungry for more.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Will you represent Germany for the half marathon World Championships.
Is that something that you're entertaining or has that been
an option presented?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
No, I'm not fast enough, not yet.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I mean, we have guys around sixty sixty one, sixty two,
but I'm going to work on it. Maybe in three
four years after college. Yeah, I think that's my future
ten k up.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
In terms of heat training, have you did you dabble
on the sauna at all? Bleeding into that or is
that something you're gonna look to do more in the future.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
So now the next competition is not gonna be hot.
So I saw my schedule. I mean I did some
easy runs you can do really, I mean normally the
hard practice you should not do, like with like more
close on. I just did in some a little bit
like long sleeve for the easy runs, and like it's
also heat training effect. And I mean I practice also
(32:31):
a lot on a treadmill. It's so hot, and I'm
glad that I did it because afterwards maybe get like
on only twenty for something. But I will gonna work
more on it. When I know I will raised for Germany.
But next year for sure not because next year is
I'm first year by senior, so a next year I
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was European Championship for senior and I mean I'm like
number nine, I think over ten k in whole Germany
for the seniors. So maybe in three years or in
two years, I'm going to compete the next time for Germany.
But I think we will go figure something out by
Adam State for nationals. But we're going to see. Right now,
I'm pretty happy that I don't have to raise in
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heat anymore because I re don't like it.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And so now you have two years of eligibility, do
you have a red shirt year as well too available
to you.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yes, we're going to figure it out how but I
have six seasons to cross country to indoor to outdoor,
and we're going to see how I can rechirt because
I mean I can stay three years at Adam State.
But for sure I'm going to raise this cross cross
country season, so I'm not going to redchet that.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So for sure I'm going to raise that. And then
we don't see.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Okay, And now when you said you taking kind of
a down recovery, reciperio, regroup and everything. When you get
back into it, what like when you jump back in
the training, where where do you sit mileage wise? I
know you mentioned you did four weeks one hundred mile weeks.
When you get back into it, how what's your first
week of mileage you're going to be and how long
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before you get back in one hundred mile weeks?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So first, first to answer the question, I took off
like four days after like I raced on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So I took off like.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I started last week Tuesday, just with easy jogging I
had last week, I think just forty miles, so like
seventy k that reincreases a little bit. I start also
to practicing now because coach Solder prepared me for Europeans.
This was like his last goal and I did his
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schedule and now am i German national coach and I
started today with the schedule from Adam State. Now I
think I will just run easy. I mean last week,
this week and maybe one threshold session we're going to see,
but not more than sixty miles for sure. Then I'm
traveling to altitude and then we have to see so
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many people adapted, like after four days in altitude. Some
people need like two to three weeks, so but I
think I'm going to be in one hundred my weeks
if I don't got sick or something. I think at
least last week August, first week September, so like ninety miles,
(35:25):
ninety five, one hundred something like that. But I think
I need like three to four weeks more because I
have absolutely no idea how my body will react on altitude.
So we're going to see and slowly. Because my first
cross country race is twenty seventh of September in Wisconsin.
It's pre national course and there I have to perform.
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So today we have the twenty eight so two months
to go. And yeah, so maybe in four weeks I
will be completely in double practice and with one mile
weeks maybe also only nine ninety, maybe also only seventy.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I don't know how my body will.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
How to debt, but I think I'm positive if I
do it slowly in the first one or two weeks,
then I think I don't think get fine big or yeah,
I mean it's pretty high, seven five hundred feets is
I mean, it's like Kenya, so it's like not a
little bit attitude like South Africa or Switzerland.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So but I'm I'm positive.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, Jimmy and I lived at ten thousand feet, so
we know what it's all about. We were in Ledville
for a while. We're Leadville, Colorado. It's it's probably about
three hours northeast of Alamosa.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah, yeah, then it's more. And the ten thousand it's crazy.
I think there's no I think. I mean the highest
college I think is Western Corolia University, so I think
it's like eight thousand something because I think twenty three
hundred is already really really high. So I mean it's
almost the highest people train.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, you don't really go much higher than that for
effective training. Did you get to enjoy Norway at all
while you were after the race and stuff? Did you
get to do this?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
It's a pretty it's a really really pretty country. I
never been there before. I visited also one week big
enough June, Denmark, and I've never been in Scandinavia and
so pretty, so clean, and like the valleys, I mean,
no Way is well famous for the valleys, like the
valleys to the ocean.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It's really really pretty.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
And I was one time in downtown in Bergen because
our hotel and the stadium was like a little bit
like suburban outside, like twenty twenty five minutes with the car.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But I saw it one time and it was really pretty.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
And I think I'm going to be back in Scandinavia,
but then maybe another country or maybe no, no, we're
going to see but Sweden and Finland should be also
amazing countries. And yeah, but I was really happy to
see a newcome country and I've never been in And
it's pretty expensive there, really really expensive, but it was
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worth for the one week.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, imagine your little your little trade with your former teammate.
Did you guys get to catch some miles together? Did
you go for some runs while you were in Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
No, no, no, And we trade on the last day
and we took both off the photos and we didn't
see each other before because his hotel was like away.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, did you run the eight or that fifteen hundred?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You run the fifteen hundred?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
How did he do?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
He said he was not happy because it didn't make
the fun. But like the level this year, it was
so stacked together, absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, so what's your downtime? Look click now you get
to enjoy joy home?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yes, right now, right now?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Here.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It was really hot in Germany, ninety to fareheit in June,
and now it's pretty cold, not pretty cold, but maybe
seventy fair night and rain all the time. But yes,
I enjoyed the time with my family because then I'm
not going to see them after like two weeks, so
I spent a lot of time with them.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, so I really enjoy it here. Do you have
any siblings, Yes, I've won sibling.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Older, younger.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
She is younger.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Guys get along, yes, pretty good sometimes but right now no, no,
but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I mean we are both not so like, kind of dult,
so that's fine.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Is she running yet?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
No, she is playing soccer. But I've tried to convince her.
It's pretty difficult. I hope, I hope.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I can change your mind. But she's happy writ now
with soccer.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And I think that little kids, especially when I mean
she's thirteen years old. Okay, I think, like kids, they
should do what they feel to do.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I can understand why women are like in general, people
who are thirteen years old, they don't want to run
alone all the time.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
So yeah, understandable.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
But she's really gisted in the same athletic club as me.
So she can go back anytime she wants, but she
has to practice a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
First, plenty of time, plenty of time to convince.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Her yes, I mean like me, I started with almost
eighteen so yeah, so much time.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Look, I appreciate your insight and your perspective. You are
a student of the game. To hear you talk about
racist talk about your training, I can tell your scientists
when it comes to this stuff. And we appreciate this
because we are nerds when it comes to our sports,
so we appreciate that. And I just appreciate you reaching out,
coming on and when you're when you're an All American
(41:01):
at Adam State, don't forget get the air Bros. And
don't be surprised if we show up at your doorstep.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
No, no, for sure, that's I mean pretty honestly. That's
also the goal. My goal is to help the team
as good as possible to win nationals. I know it's
going to be really tough. We have two other really
good teams, two or three. But my goal, of course
is to become I don't know which place yet, but
of course if I want to help the team, I
(41:32):
have to become All American because if you want to
one cross country, you need five all Americans or even
more so.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, and I'm pretty.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Optimistic that I can do it and that I can
help the team at least on the podium for sure,
and then we're going to see what we can do
and we're gonna yeah. See, I'm pretty excited.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
And just make sure you enjoy everything. And I know
it's easier said than done, but I know you had
a world wind spring, but that is stuff that Rich
and I live for, as far as travel competing, So
enjoy every bit of it. And if there's anything on
the world win since we last talked that we haven't
spoke of. Let's talk about it now. If you have
(42:15):
anything else you want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
No, just that.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I am like in my heart, I'm still also from
Cumberlance because I own them so much, and I told
them all already I'm their biggest fan for cross country.
And if there is a live stream, of course I'm
gonna watch it. And I'm pretty pretty sure if everything
goes well, that they have a pretty pretty good chance
(42:45):
to win that year cross country, and nobody would be
more happier than me to see all these guys. Also,
the newcomers and also Courtsoda and James to have the
trophy because then they achieved on the men's side everything.
And yes, and I'm pretty excited and of course for
myself for Adam State. Yet I have some times I
want to achieve. Depends also on the course. National course
(43:07):
is going to be really really hilly, and of course
w Wisconsin it's going to be called especially on the sea.
So I watched already some videos. The predicted is going
to be snow and really hilly. But yes, so in
my head, I'm still also with Cumberlands and I'm always
their biggest fan because I know how much I own
(43:30):
this great university. But I'm also pretty excited for my
next step and I hope it can that I can
achieve everything what I'm dreaming of.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Well, we're excited for you, we believe in you, and
we're looking forward to following your next journey over into Almos.
As it said, Jimmy and I are not in Colorado
right now, what we spent quite a bit of time
in Colorado. Definitely a part of our heart is still there.
So we were very excited to see the Adam State
logo popped up when you sign there and Coach Martin
does a great job. And you know coach v Hill
(44:04):
rest in peace, just passed away not too long ago
last week. You know that they have such a rich tradition.
I think you're destined to do great things there, my friend.
So we are excited to follow your journey for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Thank you very much, well good, Thank you so much
for your time, sir. Can't wait to follow you at
Adam State.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Of course, thank you so much for the time. I
appreciate a lot.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
And we're going to stay in contact and yes, stay
safe and healthy.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Thank you sir. Ladies and gentlemen that's looking today, make
sure you go follow him on Instagram. He's doing great
things and he's going to be representing the yellow and
Green out there at Adam State. He's going to be
a grizzly, so make sure you follow along this fall
see what they got going on. It is no small
task to take on the armac conference, so we're excited
(44:56):
to see what happens there and then obviously he'll be
battling with our friends at wing Gate, so give him
a follow on social media. We will be back on
Wednesday evening. Joe Allaher will be joining us. We're gonna
be stepping back on the mat and we're gonna be
talking a little bit of jiu jitsu, some self defense,
and all the great things that they got going on
in Mommouth County. So we'll see you back here on
Wednesday night. Appreciate you tuning in. Have a great day.
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