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October 27, 2025 73 mins
We are HERE, you are THERE, and you’re now rockin’ with the best.
In EP 405, we go Belly to Belly with Billy George, head wrestling coach at Long Branch High School—a Shore Conference lifer carrying the Green Wave tradition.Coach George digs into Region 6 history, District 23 wars, NJ’s realignment era, the public vs. private debate, and how Long Branch rebuilt its room with a family-first culture (football, lifeguarding, surfing) where “life is wrestlebacks” still rings true.What you’ll hear: origin story, handing off/stepping up, building athletes from the ground up, lineup churn every year, schedule strength, division foes, district placement, and keeping Shore pride alive.

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Show Notes / Timestamps
  • 00:00 Cold open — Region 6 roots

  • 00:32 ABR intro + guest setup (Billy George, Long Branch HS)

  • 01:20 Bio: Green Wave family → Cornell → LB head coach

  • 02:19 Plug: @wavewrestlingnj

  • 02:50 Pork roll / Taylor ham

  • 04:01 Origin story: dad & “Coach George,” community pride

  • 09:53 Taking over, Rumson years, rebuild mindset

  • 12:01 Ambassadorship: school, beach, lifeguards, surfing, family ethos

  • 19:00 Rebuild blueprint: fundamentals, athleticism, “don’t get pinned”

  • 24:46 Diverse room → one family (languages, culture, buy-in)

  • 27:30 Schedule & rivalries (TR South/East, Colts Neck, Jackson)

  • 31:34 Non-negotiables: school, behavior, homework → earn the mat

  • 33:40 From 3–8 to hosting sectionals—what changed

  • 34:56 Football ↔ wrestling pipeline; tackling = neutral

  • 37:06 Realignment & districts: parity vs. tradition

  • 47:45 Public vs private: new rivalries, still wrestling the best

  • 55:02 One state champ—why NJ must keep it

  • 57:11 Final Four: coffee, daily practices, books/music, guilty pleasure

  • 1:12:56 Close: next episodes (Point Boro XC, Cumberlands XC)
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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George and you're listening to Airy Brothers Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Ladies and gentlemen, how do you Aloha? We are here,
you were there, and you are now rocking with the best.
Thank you for tuning into another episode of Airy Bros. Radio. Tonight,
we're going belly to belly with Long Branch High School's
own Billy George. But up, before we get going, you
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(00:44):
get back to the sports we love. Follow us on Instagram, YouTube, Spotify,
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we're here. We're here to shine a light on the programs, people,
coaches and stories we wish we had access to growing up.
If you were somebody who knows chasing their dreams cross
country wrestling, our track and field, share this episode with them.
On to tonight's guest. Our guest tonight is Billy George.

(01:06):
He is Long Branch through and through. His dad is
a former head wrestling coach, as is his uncle. Billy
was wearing a Green Wave singlet before he could walk.
He's a two time NHSCA national champion and a New
Jersey State medalist. In college, he wrestled at Cornell University,
where he was a starter on one of the nation's

(01:27):
tops teams. After college, he started coaching at Rumpsy and Fairhaven,
helping athletes go on to compete at the next level
in college. Eventually, he came home to carry on the
family tradition as a head coach at Long Branch, where
he has led the Green Wave to twenty twenty two
to twenty twenty three Division champs, twenty twenty three to
twenty twenty four top ten finish in the Short Conference tournament,

(01:47):
and a twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five Central
Jersey Group four Sectional championship. Without further ado, it is
an honored pleasure to have you joining us this evening.
We do greatly appreciate your time. Billy George, Welcome to
the show. Thanks Rich, Yeah, absolutely, it's an honor to
have you on. Before we get too far into it,
anything you would like to plug or promote anywhere you

(02:08):
want us to send the Shore Conference wrestling fans to
follow the Green Wave. The floor's yours.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I would be remiss if I didn't say Wave Wrestling
Njay on Instagram, that's our account. Yeah, I also follow.
I love to do motivational stuff. I love to do
technique stuff, you know, getting out to the long branch kids.
But you know, as a coach and a bestar the sport,

(02:34):
you know, to whoever.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Follows, Absolutely, we'll put all that stuff in the show notes.
Billy one way we like to kick things off here
with our Jersey guests. I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I
should say I know the answer to this, but you
never know, you did spend some time in the IVY League,
and we know how those IVY League coaches think. Is
it pork roller Taylor Ham?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh, I would say pork role. I definitely. I definitely
was introduced to Taylor Ham, you know, as my first love.
But the more I started eating it, you know, it
became pork role. It didn't matter. I wasn't going to
di screen.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah that's what a former guest, Dave Santa Maria CBA
legend said. He doesn't care what you call it. Just
make sure I get my sandwich.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
When you plug Dave Sana Maria. That's my that's my
physical bear right there.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right, small world gets smaller every time we do this,
right jim Yes, sir, yes, it does so, Billy. You know,
we all have our origin stories to the sport, and
I'm sure yours is probably a little bit similar to
Jimmy's in the sense that he grew up coming to
my matches, follow me around in his single it and
tournaments and stuff. You know, your dad was involved in

(03:46):
the program. Uh, he coached when I was back in
the day, when I was wrestling, So I'm sure that
has a lot to do with your origin story. But
give us a little bit more info on your origin story.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, my first real memories were going to the wrestling
room for practice. And I don't know if you guys
are ever in the old Gym three, but you know,
it was like a boiler room, but it was big enough.
It had two mats, and it was attached to a
weight room, and there was a little coach's office. And
when I can remember my dad wrestling with the heavyweight

(04:16):
and somebody going through the door of the coach's office,
those guys wrestling into the office and then you know,
back into the mats and then riding the bus and
going to matches. You know, obviously those things were a
lot more common back in the day. You know, kids
just kind of always run along with their parents. And
I was really blessed to have that opportunity from Long

(04:36):
Branch Public Schools. So that was like three and a
half years old. I think ninety ninety six was his
last year as the head coach at LB. He was
my absolute hero, and that is when I was like,
when I grow up, I'm going to be a wrestler
and a football player. At Long Branch. My dad was

(04:57):
also the defensive coordinator and the head freshman coach. When
he became a principal, I started followed him around and
going everywhere, and I got introduced to you know, the
whole show, conference, wrestaurant, but my uncle Danny really you know.
Then it became my hero until he wasn't allowed to
be Uncle Danny anymore. And I'll let him. He was
coached Georgia. I was in eighth grade. I graduated from

(05:19):
Mekle Play School and Ocean Port and I told my parents,
you know, Grandma said that I can loup moving with her,
and I can go wrestle and play football a longerranch.
And my parents were like what and uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
And so going up in that environment and having such
pride and long Branch being a part of it, and
then going on to Cornell was coaching something that was
always in your mindset, something that you knew you wanted
to do or how did that come about for you?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah? About that time, you know, I wanted to be
like my dad. He was my hero, and I wanted
to be like my uncle. He was my hero. He's
you know, the head football coach, head wrestle and coach
at Lomranch. And you know, I was five years old.
I was a fifty five pounder on the wreck team
and I'm pretty sure I had to wrestle like Jimmy Arey,

(06:10):
Brian Heller back to back.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I was like, I was like, I don't know if
this is for me.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I remember the kids on the team asked me, so,
how you doing with wrestling, little Billy, and I'm like, yeah,
you know, I made it to the second period. A
couple of my dad's like you know, yeah, you know,
he got pinned by Jimmy Arey. He got pinned by
Brian Heller and he's really he's really bummed about it,
really down on himself. But yeah, those were those were

(06:40):
really life changing moments, you know, being being with the team,
you know, starting on that wreck team. All these guys
who were going to get into the family element of
wave wrestling, but all these guys who ended up either
being my teammates or being my coaches were still around
the community this day. This was It's what I wanted

(07:05):
to do, you know, always really cool, well, opportunity go.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
In your defense, I probably had about six years on
you at that. It was it was only five, all right,
it was five five. I remember that. I was like,
I got to wrestle this kid. He's younger. They're like,
he's the same way as you. You got to wrestle.
And I saw a long branch as like Rich said
Miguel Ramos. I had to get one back for Rich.
That's what my mindset was back then. But you said

(07:33):
you said you wrestled for he was Uncle Danny till
he wasn't until it was your coach, did you and
your uncle oec eyed eyed? Do you ever have some
some times where you're like, man, I'm your nephew. Why
you treating me like that?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I remember the first practice. I was a freshman in
high school and uh, I was the only kid that
wasn't on freshman people I was. I was on varsity
football right away, and I was told I was going
to play JV And I called him Uncle Danny, you know,
just out of habit, and he was like, you know,

(08:12):
don't ed call me uncle again. And that was it.
You know, I've never called him auntl Danny since I've
called him coach George my son William the Fifth. Uh,
he's gonna call him coach George.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Too, William the Fifth. That's very royal. I like that.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Quinn. My wife said, you know, it's not going to
be Billiard and it's not going to be built Like, okay,
I got you know, I got something.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
On my sleeve, all right, all right? So taking over
the program for your uncle, what was that? Like? You
feel a lot of pressure in that?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I was really excited. I was really excited. You know,
you guys talk a little bit about how I was
at Rumson, and I had four great years at Rumson parody,
and but the year before that and I actually came
home to school, I was just a volunteer assistant at
Long Branch. And all those years that I was at Rumson,

(09:10):
UH practice for Rumson didn't start until five o'clock. So
I was actually a volunteer at Long Branch. I was
a JV coach, and I go to work as a
real estate agent. I'd go to JV practice at Long
Branch and then I would go over to varsity practice
at Rumson. So it was it was you know, and

(09:30):
the RUMs and kids will tell you. You know, we
would do off season training and we would be in
the Long Ren tresting room a lot of times, and
so so you know, summer season training, and you know,
it was always so near and dear, and it was
always at thought on my mind. And actually I knew
I was going to be the head coach at Long
Branch my last season at Rumson. You know, Danny or

(09:54):
coach George had.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
To me, you know you can him uncle on this show.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
You know. Coach George said to me that this what's
going on with COVID is so difficult. We're having trouble
fielding a team. We have to totally rebuild, and we
you know, you're the guy for the job. I've done
my time here. It really stinks that it's going to
go out like this and I'm gonna go out like

(10:21):
this with COVID And you know, it was just a
year before they have won the state sectional championship. They
beat the Memorial in an awesome down to the wire
very last match, and you know, but so I was
all excited and then Brian came to me at the
banquet and Rumsen and he said, Hey, I'm just wanting
to know. I'm telling the parents that I'm going to

(10:44):
step away from rum Sett and I want you to
know that I want you to be the head coach.
So all of a sudden I had this huge, you know,
decision to make. But it was, you know, it was
it goes back to this childhood memories, you know, you know,

(11:04):
to live out and you can see what an amazing
job they're doing at Rumson. Coaches absolutely counted. Should have
been New Jersey Coach of the Year last year. Another number
of a public school in state and back to backwards
two champions. You're doing a great job.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Over there, so we know you you bleed green and white.
There's a rich history that goes way back even before
I was wrestling. Uh, with some of the names that
have come through Long Branch. I mean, what what does
it mean to be You're not just you know, a coach,
but you're an ambassador for the community. And I know

(11:46):
that's something that you and your dad and your uncle
and everyone takes a lot of pride. And can you
speak a little bit on that.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, we have this great opportunity to get back. We've
all had this great opportunity to give at My uncle
wrestled for Longrange and the eighties, my dad asked for
Longnch in the eighties. They graduated, got their agree came back,
became educators, and and and and their whole thing was is,

(12:13):
you know, coaching and teaching student athletes to be better people.
And and what better way to do that through sport?
What better way to do that through wrestling, which is
such a you know, it's if people call it the
toughest sport Danny Gable, you know, it's such a humbling,

(12:37):
such a humbling sport.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
And and and so as the wrestling coach with a
lot of times you're getting some kids who who you know,
are just they are ready to be molded, and and
you know, it's it takes such a commitment to become
good and the humility of going from you know, the

(13:03):
basics of just not getting pink absolutely being unacceptable. We're
gonna bridge and practice. It's gonna be the most painful
thing you're ever gonna do. We're gonna bridge until we
stop getting pink, you know. And and and it's not like, oh, yeah,
you're gonna be the hero. You're gonna be all over
social media. You know, you're gonna be champion, You're gonna
be on highlight tags. It's like, no, like if you're

(13:24):
getting in, if you want to be varsity, you want
to be in that spot.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
The first step is not is not gonna it's learning
how to lose with pride and and with class, representing
the green wave, representing your family, and and then teaching
them how to to grind out and and and and
you know, win a tough match, and and what it
takes to have the poise to do that, the patients

(13:52):
and the poise and the toughness and and the and
the you know, the chess element of it, and then
how that right translates to life and and a lot
of the wrestlers, you know, will will will work with
outside of the school. You're not not with is wrestling.
But you know, my family, we have a long tradition

(14:13):
of being lifeguards. My life cruft for the city of
Long Branch. My uncle is the beach manager, so he's
the chief of all the lifeguards and all the badges,
and so these kids, they, you know, they start wrestling
in the middle school. We have an unbelievable middle school
program who who teaches them a lot of those fundamentals

(14:34):
that they need to be successful at the high school level. Obviously,
we work with them at the beach. The training at
the beach is, you know, we awesome off season training
and surfing. I know, I'm sure you have a lot
of guests from Region six right who are very passionate surfers,
and they can talk about the translation and and and

(14:54):
people always said, you know, wrestling, Billy George. They'd say,
you know, people would tell me what you know. I
asked somebody, what makes you so good? And they said
that you're just so strong like and and and and
you don't look like you you are way stronger than
you look. And I just to say, well, that's because
I'm a lifeguard and a and a surfer. It's you

(15:16):
know that endurance is just so and and and then
the last piece and being in ambassador within my community
and and being about more than just wrestling and and
and and and wave wrestling. Our modelist family we say
way wrestling, we say family for life is football and

(15:37):
and and in football, I'm I'm coaching the JV coach
and uh, I'm I'm a freshman coach and uh, you know,
to to help these kids who who you know, may
not have any connection to wrestling until they're in high school,
and all of a sudden, now they're connected with me

(15:58):
and I have a different I that wrestling mentality and
they've never met anyone with that wrestling mentality. And like
you guys know, there's there's levels to it, right and
impact that that had that that that that can leave
on somebody, you know. So you know, it's it's a

(16:21):
three hundred and sixty five day thing of being the
best influence on my community and and and being front
and center and having to be a leader by example
at all times, whether it's my job at the beach
and my job at the school or you know, being
a coach. You know, just uh be it like being

(16:45):
putting off that or I like the kids say, right,
that is going to breed success in the in the
program and for the kids in the classroom, and and
then in life. You know, like you guys said the
Ivy League thing, I get to, you know, take pride

(17:05):
in that and say like, hey, I wasn't always the
best student. It didn't come easy for me, but wrestling
taught me how to become a great student, never how
to become a great teacher educator.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
So are you working in a school now.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, I teach woodshot eighth grade. I've got a couple
of one hundred kids a market period. I get new
ones at the end of middle school. Everyone unless they
are a full year band or dance they're in the
band or dance program, that I won't have them. But
if they're not band or dance, then I'm gonna have them.

(17:48):
So like that's part of the philosophy of wave wrestling.
It's just coaching every kid. You know. It's like when
you're a teacher and you're gonna have every kid in
the school, you're gonna have every kid. They're gonna from
every different background, walk of life, life. You know, it's
a really special thing. And then you can see everybody's talents,

(18:12):
and then everybody has value provides value. We've got some
cool individual stories and some kids that you know go
out on that map for long range and the other
team looks on them, you know, and you know he's
wrestling into an all state athlete or at all conference
athletes or all the Vision athlete. You know, you would

(18:35):
pe would be the last big kid picked Virginia. But
you know, long ranch ends up somehow founding.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Away to win the mat. So, yeah, Billy, you mentioned
that when coach George said he was stepping down it
was rebuilding that uh that twenty twenty year really hurt you, guys,
And then you brought up you know, having to teach
kids to fight off their back. How how has the

(19:01):
rebuilding process, how has that been for you? And how
is that teaching kids that have never wrestled before, known
your caliber as a wrestler, having to kind of go
back to basics and worry about, you know, not getting pinned.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
It starts, you know, it starts every year. We are
a team that if you look at our lineup, we're
gonna have about six seven, eight nine. You know, the
kids say six seven we're gonna have like it's gonna
be a lot of our team is gonna be seniors.

(19:34):
They're gonna graduate. You know, maybe they've wrestled, maybe their
four year start. Maybe one of thom is a four
year starter, maybe the other one. Maybe you got another
one who's gonna be a three year starter. But most
of them, or about half of them, it's gonna be
their first year of wrestling of oursity. But they're full
grown man. So to start the season. Every season, we're

(19:55):
gonna have sixty kids who show up to the interest meeting.
We've got out on one Matt wrestling room. There's a
about twenty five to twenty nine spots. Safely, it's paying
it wall to wall. It's the hottest room in the school.
We're gonna have two practices, and the practices are gonna
be very similar. And at the beginning of the season,

(20:19):
it might not be varsity in one room and junior
varsity freshman in the other room. It might be one
oh six to one fifty seven or one oh six
to one fifty depending on how the kids break up.
And we're gonna do some things that are going to
turn you into a really good athlete. We're gonna do

(20:42):
like the Russians. We're gonna do body weight lifts. We're
gonna do tumbling. We're gonna do to teg We're gonna
do far foot drill. We're gonna teach how to scramble.
We're gonna see who really knows jiu jitsu. I know
a lot of you Brazilian, the Brazilian population. They tell
me that they know jiu jitsu, and they give me

(21:03):
some hand signs, you know, and I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, all right, you know you're ready, Like and
then I'll flex my Portuguese a little bit because I've
been known to be in the gym yelling another language.
And yeah, So we're very much starting. And then guys,

(21:24):
you've got you we've got to refocus me. You refocus me.
But we're very much starting from building up the athleticism, uh,
figuring out the kids' strengths. We're gonna teach the inside
step and we're gonna teach it and we're gonna pound
it hard. Everybody's gonna ad to take down to both sides.
You know, everybody's got to be able to clear ties.
The more we clear ties, the more we can learn

(21:46):
how to hand fight. By the end of the season,
you know, we're gonna be hand fighting hard and we're
gonna be moving people around getting the shots. But earlier
we were using that in athletic ability and and like
you you know, bring us back at full circle. We
can't get pint. We got to be able to get
out on bottle.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
But we're not.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
We're not always gonna put the kids kids down Earlier,
we're gonna teach them how to use their athletic ability
and be competitive, uh if. But the hard part is
is you've got this kid now, right, you're doing that,
But you've also got this kid now who is runing
fourth in the state coming in this year, tiny Kajai.

(22:27):
And you know everybody would love torn A Kajai on
their team. And you got, you know, all this awesome
club stuff going on, you got all this private school,
all some product school stuff going on, and all these
training partners. You know, but you've got to teach that
kid to buy into fundamentals, continue to work the fundamentals

(22:48):
and working what these guys are working is also paying
off for you. So you know we we do. Yeah,
we had to rebuild, We had to get the number
as we to get the numbers back to sixty. It
was it was being in the middle school as a
you know, it was kind of easy because I was
able to put it out there, you know, coach to

(23:10):
which were in middle school, the wood shop, that's the
science teacher at the time, and I build that rapport
with the kids in the classroom first, but you know,
really getting them, whipping them, helping, you know, get them
into shape. It takes a whole community to parents and
and and obviously my assistant coaches are extremely, extremely instrumental,

(23:34):
and their value you can't put a number on their value.
But we feel like we do a lot of rebuilding
every year. You know, I always say I'm going to
the division. You look at the division now with the
way they're set up, and it's like you could go
owing four, you could go four and oh. And I

(23:55):
said that last year seriously, even though I was returning
seven starters and we were hoping we were going to
be able to put a run together for a title.
But you know, those kids really really really.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Bought in.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
And they have fun compete and compete, and you know
we were three in eight.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Billy, Sorry, did you do you have another thought. I
don't want to cut you off, all right, I could
just go.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
You got to come off.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
So you said, you've been known to be on on
the side of the mac coaching in different languages, and
we do know Long Branch is a very diverse high
school and very diverse community. But you also mentioned that
the motto is family. Talk about bringing in that the
diversity of Long Branch and bringing everyone under one roof

(24:56):
and making them all family.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's actually the the slogan of of our current administration
is uh, junta speramos juntos, No sporamos juntos, junos samos,
and that means together we can And it's really just

(25:18):
taking the time to to get to know each other
and understanding, uh, everybody's culture. Uh you know what do
you like? We dislike? What's your favorite food? Uh? You
know what's your favorite subject? In school? All these like
all about me, get to know me stuff and authentic

(25:39):
learning and building authentic relationships not just me with the kids,
but the kids with each other. And we Uh, it's
not easy for us to get a match. And I
always say to the to all the coaches, I write
so many emails every coach that ever puts out a

(25:59):
date that matches up like try, you know, and very
rarely has anybody you know, actually shout out to Coach
Solma from now and he actually reached out to me.
It's like one of the first people ever to reach
out and say, hey, coach, we have these dates on
our calendar. I think, you know, now people are starting
to realize that we're going to have some power points.

(26:20):
But Coach Somelma is a great coach, and you know
it's people know that we're gonna, you know, especially in
January and February, like we're going to build this team chemistry.
The kids are going to start fighting for each other.
They're not going to get paid. We're going to roll
out fourteen waight classes of tough kids. If you put

(26:41):
somebody out here, put somebody out there, you have no
idea who's coming out of the tunnel from Long Branch.
You can look at the name, you know, you can
look at the name, but it's you know, it's it
doesn't really mean much. You can look at the record,
but it doesn't really mean much because we're wrestling our
best teams. We're always wrestling the best teams. We're trying

(27:04):
to We're taking whatever matches we can possibly get, and
that normally means you know, we're not supposed to win.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, well the divisions being with there, you know we
would be south for a while, with even ce south
for a while, but that's all changed. What what is
your division looking like this year?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
So we were always at be North And you want
to talk about rivalries AND's like long Branch and Ocean
Long Branch and those were you know, going back forever
and they're the definition of rivalries. Uh you you know,

(27:46):
you go to District twenty three and the OG District
twenty three and you know, I can't wait to hear
your perspective on it. But uh you now, now we're
talking Point Borough, We're talking Brick Moore, we're talking wall.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
An old Brick and that district was just killer and
it's rivalries like you know what the Short Conference wrestling
has bounded out?

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Like what got the Short Conference wrestling? What got Region
six to a place where they needed to be realignment?
You know those are you know that's those are really
the rivalries. So uh you look, you look back on
those and all those hard wars and you know they're
not in the division anymore. I believe our division this year,

(28:45):
Mid South, I know we've got them a little bit
later in the schedule this year. I was pretty happy
about UH. Toms Rivers South awesome team last year State
finals and Middletown South again awesome team like years state semifinalists.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
UH.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
They beat us in a doo meet at the beginning
of the year last year, Toms River East. We had
a great, great uh doom meet with them. Last year.
Who was the state champ was at South or East?
They had an awesome match, came down to the end.
I think South one. You know, coach Gianos is now

(29:25):
a Britain Memorial. I know he's you know, he just
did a great job at East, and I know East
will be UH will be up again this year. And
then at the very end it's UH Colt Snick and
we have this state sectional championship match against Colt Snack
and again we want top rivalries the matches between Long

(29:48):
Branch and Coltsnack. In the past since I've been here,
we wrestled in the division championship match. They beat us
the next year. Then we wrestled him again in the
state Section final last year and you know, the match
last year was just as they as as competitive a

(30:10):
match as I've coached in and for it to be
the state sectional final, you know it was. I was
so proud of our kids, so proud of our kids.
And then I called coach the next day, coach change
Chambs and I called them the next day. I know

(30:31):
that short thing connection uh and and you know, I
just said you, you know, I'm so impressed with your team.
You do such a great job. And I know it
was you didn't ask my wife. There was not much
sleeping going on when the state seats came out and

(30:54):
we rather had Russell Jackson Memorial the last match of
the division, and then we were wrestling again in the
first round in the state. Oh my god. So I
don't even know where what we started with the division.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, It's.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's like I said, I'm going in, I'm thinking, are
we going to be four and er or we're going
were going to be a four? I don't know. And
I always tell the kids, I don't care, and I
say it, you know, like truthfully, like what I care
about is that all of you guys have the opportunity
to go out there and compete, which means you do

(31:33):
all the non negotiated things, which is training. You know,
that's not not the one we don't, you know, we
always say that then the the you know, I say,
I say the training, you know, because I'm on a
wrestling podcast. But you know, to the kids, as the
head coach, it can never really be about the training.
It's always got to be about showing up the school

(31:54):
on time, getting all your school work done, being respectful
and polite to all your teachers. And there's an after
school program that all the kids have to go to.
Shout out to mister Corley, our athletic director, to make
sure that the kids have extra enrichment after school. They
have a whole extra period that they are supposed to

(32:15):
complete their homework with their teachers, their core teachers before
they even go to practice. So those are the non
negotiable things we talk about. Competing is just it's just
the grady, the you know, like of hey, we did
everything we're supposed to do and now we get to
go have an athletic contest, and you know, then all

(32:38):
the winning really comes from all the wanting to win
comes from the kids, and then it's really authentic right,
because it's like that I'm helping you do what you
really want to do. Because what I want to see
you guys do is do all the right things in school,
become the best people you can be, and then go
out there and have this opportunity to compete and do

(32:59):
all the things as we practice. And you know, I
hate to sound like a drone, you know, as you
hear you hear this a lot, but it's you know,
to the parents out there, it really is the recipe
for success. The kids having fun, the kids being the
best people they can be, the best athletes they can be,

(33:20):
and and then going out there and competing loose with
no pressure. And that's that magic saw set perfect formula
for how do we go from three n to your
hosting See's actual tournament.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You're a multi sport coach, You're a multi sport athlete.
I was a multi sport athlete. Jimmy was a multi
sport athlete for a little bit. We're big fans of that.
As a wrestling coach, I always struggled to convince the
football players, or even more so, to convince the football
coach that hey, if you get the bigger guys or
even the linebackers to come out. I'm going to make
them better football players. They're not going to get injured.

(33:59):
I promise you, they're going to come back to you.
They're gonna be tougher, they're going to be better athletes.
All that being said, you're a football coach now, too.
Are you able to kind of bridge that gap and
get some of the big guys or some of the
linebackers to come out and help the wrestling squad? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You know, my uncle, my uncle coach Gi. He was like,
you need to start coaching football, and my dad was like,
you know, you should be a freshman football coach, and
wrestling commitment is so much that, you know, to also
do with football. It's such a big, you know, commitment

(34:36):
for the family. But I volunteered for a little bit.
This is my first year full time on staff, and
it's it's to help the football program. You know. It's not, Hey,
you know, I'm going to coach football and then I'm
going to get these guys to wrestle. But you know,

(34:58):
like I said, when people who haven't been around wrestlers
and mean they start to understand the wrestling mentality, it's,
you know, I'm playing scout team quarterback and they're like,
coach Gie, how do you you know? And I'm like,
I'm thirty four years old. They're like, if you're this
good now, how good were you in high school? And
and you know, I like and I'm like, you know,

(35:23):
I like to think I'm better now, you know. But
then they say, you know, and that's kind of like
they're like, I want to you know, I think I
want to wrestle, And I say, you know, it's it's
not going to be a crazy commit You're not gonna
just but you gotta understand. You're not going to jump
in and just be farsity right away. You're we're gonna

(35:46):
tailor your training, so you're gonna come in, you're gonna learn,
you're gonna become a better athlete. Then you're gonna do
tackling for a half hour forty minutes, because right that's
what neutral wrestling is. It's it's it's tackling. We're gonna
teach you how to tackle. We're gonna make it a
little more tactical, but we're gonna teach you how to tackle,

(36:09):
and then we're gonna get you out of here. You're
gonna go run mild. Maybe two. You're gonna go do
some sprints. We're gonna bench squat power clean. You can
do the core part of your football lift that you
wouldn't be doing if you're not wrestling. You know, some
kids now, it's amazing. They have strength coaches and they're
doing these really specific lifting routines. But do they really

(36:30):
know what they're doing? Do they you know, you can
tell them what to do, but do they understand why? Right?
Do they understand why they're doing it? And you know,
when you're just bench squat power cleaning, you know, it's
it's really it's pretty simple what you make connection.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Well, Billy, you talked a little bit about the real
realignment and about you know, Region six is no longer
Region six. I got a panics phone call last Saturday
night from my dad Alee. They realigned it again, keep
bleek RBCs and District thirty two.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
What the heck can you follow it? I'm really happy
that I reeled off all the teams for the division
and they just look at this schedule the other day.
You know, I do the division insing, I try and
do all my matches. I try and get all that
stuff done in the spring starting to call it cut
you off game, But it's really hard for me to
follow and keep up with it. The districts, it's so
important to wrestle the team and your district's pot. You're

(37:28):
just getting it a week ago, right you would just yeah,
you know, I kind of already did my schedule. Do
you what do you having Jackson? We have Jackson on
the schedule. They're gonna be awesome this year. They're doing
the crew coaches at both Memorial and Live doing a
great job, and they're going to come together and make

(37:49):
a staff there and it's going to be like when
you guys are in school, right, Yeah, I don't know
if I don't know if there's that much again, you know,
the kids say or lacking a better word, but the mystique,
you know that Jackson Memorial program, you know, that's what
their aim is, right to bring that back and then

(38:12):
pushing the best of up because that original Region six
And I'm going to the whole thing for Short Conference
Coaches Association, and you know, I think it's weird. We
when we put us all on in that gym, we
were a huge family, right, but there was so much

(38:36):
bad blood, you know, because everybody was competing, you know,
for only so many spots, and it just as as
much as we try and make it all, you know,
just sport like, it's hard not for it not to
at times become personally, you know. Like I was telling

(38:57):
the long range coaches like I have enough with good
things to say about Coach Brady. I'm just gonna bring
up Coach Braidy because you guys have Borough guys. And
you know what if you put me, if Brady walking
this door, it was just me and Brady in his
room right now, there'll be so much tension. You know,
you could probably chocolate the night. It's real. It's a legit,
tangible thing. So I'm the realignment, And what do I

(39:21):
think about it?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I think.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
We were trying to get rid of. I think it's
a chief parody. That's what we wanted to do, right.
I think it's a chief parody. I think the top
thirty two kids go to the state tournament. We're seeing it.
We're having more kids from Walmbranch go to the state
tournament than ever before. And you know, the kids from
lom Branch are doing most of their training with us
at the high school. You know, during wrestling season or

(39:48):
during the summer season where we have our summer week
and when we were in school, I know you guys
wrestled probably one hundred matches every off season.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I know I did.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Kids aren't doing that.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I know we're gonna do about where we're going from.
You know, where is Regent six going for me? And
you know the greater scoring from the wrestling and and
all that, and this is just a generally a region
sixth question, right, Yeah, you know, it's sad that we're
not altogether. I do love again the Short Conference Coaches Association.

(40:26):
I believe what that's the it's all the same organization.
Right when we do the Short Conference Tournament, I think
that's really cool. You know, uh, we don't have to
go to the Beast of the East. We would love
to go to the Robin Left shout out to coach Roight,
but you know, just we we get to go to

(40:48):
the Short Conference Tournament and we get to do the
Elizabeth minim Man Tournament, and that's like a nice where
all of our kids go and they're gonna have competitive
matches no matter what their skill level. And the Elizabeth
Tournament and then the Short Conference Woman is like, we're
only going to have like seven kids because said because
we're starting seven seniors right and a lot of them
don't have any commentials. So that part hurts, no doubt.

(41:12):
The individual part, you know, not everybody competing that weekend
when you when you only you know, but this season
is longer than so in all fairness, they're you know,
the season is longer than ever, you know what you know,
having that short conference weekend and some of the kids
being off and being so close to say sectionals, it's
like almost had the power points.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
It's so you have to have qualifying points to get
into the individual short conference.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, it's really cool. It's like the postseason criteria, how
many points do you have? Have you earned up to
that point? And the prestige points matter so much more
because you still have a quarter of your season arrest,
you know, and like long branch at the beginning of
which you're trying to figure out who should start. So
we're wrestling multiple kids in a weight class. My uncle

(42:00):
always said that, you know, the weight class should earn
earn the points because having my kid, it's eligible to
wrestle that days combined with I'm trying to figure out
who the guy is combined with We're wrestling against Colt
Snack and there are one thirteen pounds best kids in
the state and you know my guy might be at

(42:24):
twenty that match. It's a yeah. The realignment of chief parody,
There's no doubt about it. It's been a great thing
from the standpoint. Look at how many wrestlers we have
have the state tournament were you know, having everybody in
that environment and with Tacle Center is something I wish

(42:44):
our kids could experience. Yeah, but truthfully, as the coach
of Lung Branch, I'm torny kajas in a knock on wood.
He's going to go to the state tournament seniors and
have a healthy senior years, you know, to be four
time state qualifiers. Started wrestling as an eighth grader. Never

(43:06):
but it was happening in Region five no disrespect, you know,
and these other regions you know, South Plainfield, you know
coach coach Ashram shout out. You know, like those guys
say had infligate pipelines on the whole team of states,
on practe whole act. Your mom and the Short Conference

(43:26):
kids were all killing each other.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, does the Short Conference tournament have that same kind
of electric feel to it, though you know, Jimmy and
I have never been to individual shore conference tournament does
still have that? And I guess do you guys also
missed the team aspect? Did you miss the team shot
conference tournament.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
We had.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
When I was in school? Like, those are the best
matches of my life, you know, I've lost the Glen
Carson five four Long Brands first Cellar Short Conference st Finals.
I told my uncle that there was no way I
wasn't going to get picked to bump me up to

(44:09):
Glenn Carson and I just had never you know, like
state finalists multiple times, and he was like, no, you're not.
You're going up and it's the only way you're starting
to match up at fifteen. We're not. You're not waiting
till the end of the match when it's it's over,
Like you're going out there and you you and Carson

(44:31):
are going to start it off. It's a life changing
event for me that that team tournament was absolutely electric,
and being in the locker room and warm ups with Jackson,
Scottie Winston and all those guys, and then you know,
actually winning the Short conference tournament, you know, losing to

(44:54):
Glen Carson, but Long Branch beats Southern. It's like, uh,
you know Harry Turner, how and a cloth like that
team was languid. You know, it said that the kids
don't don't get that, you know for sure. But this
and the thing that stinks about it was all the

(45:18):
pressure and all the marb marvels of the Regency Tournament.
It had to get top three. It was it was
this one tournament you had to wrestle these kids in
your bracket. And there was no I'm going to injury
default that you know, there was no I'm going to
sit this one out because it doesn't mean because you know,

(45:41):
these are lies that you know, kids are told and
kids or kids tell themselves and there their parents and
their coaches, and they miss out on these opportunities to
have these life changing moments. Like I keep saying. You know,
like my dad used to say, life is like wrestle.

(46:03):
You're gonna go out there and you're gonna wrestle unless
you're gonna have surgery. Are you gonna have surgery? No,
you're not gonna have surgery. Okay, then you're gonna go
out there and you're gonna wrestle you're gonna go compete
and if you don't, when you don't win, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
It, it's not It wasn't it, you know, Jim, I
think we need to make are Bro shirts. On the
back it says life is the wrestle backs. Absolutely, second
time we've heard that on here.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, And I think you bring up a good point
too about the injury de fault. If you're not getting surgery,
you're going out on the mat. I had a match
at the Penn State Open and your friend in front
of the area bros, Brian Heller, was coaching me at
that tournament and it was for third place, and I
was my eye was out to here, and I'm like

(46:49):
all the kids on my team at the school I
was at, that was kind of the thing like, oh,
if you're not gonna win, injury fault out. And I
told Brian, Brian's like, you getting ready. I'm like, nah,
I'm not gonna wrestle. He was like why. I was
like my eye, dude. He's like you have to get surgery,
Like what was the deal. I'm like no, He's like
you're going out there. And I went out there and
I wound up winning. The kid wanted it less than

(47:13):
I wanted it. But again, it's one of those moments
where you go out and you wrestle, and we don't
see that all the time, So I appreciate you bringing
that up. One other thing we were talking about, you know,
the change in wrestling, the change in the regions and
the conferences and everything. Another thing that's changing in New
Jersey wrestling is the private school And when we were

(47:35):
coming up, there was maybe a handful of private schools
that were really good, most for public schools. What is
your opinion on the private versus public debate that's going
on right now.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I love it. Like we talk about how we miss
so many great rivalries, but these are the new privalies.
You know. I talked about how you know, I was saying,
you owe, Branch has changed so much since the seventies,
you know, but you know one thing hasn't changed is that,
you know, you put the kids in super hot root.

(48:07):
Maybe you're lucky enough to be able to blast the
music and we're you know, gonna go really hard and
it's just this culture that you know is wrestling, and
it's what makes it so great. And same with these
rival riesle we miss the old ones. But but the

(48:27):
new ones now it's it's it's galvanized Long Branching Point
Borrow and Long Branching Brick Memorial and and Long Branch
in Delaware Valley. You know, like two opposite sides in
the state. Nothing absolutely nothing in common. Long Branch in Phillipsburgh,

(48:49):
you know, but you know Long Branching North Hunter and
you know, we hate each other because we're wrestling for
the state championship against each other. But now all of
a sudden, we're singing in a lanks And you know,
the private schools, you guys can just have that area
that used to just be the competitors area, but now
that the girls are in there and there's just so
many private school kids. The high school, the public schools,

(49:15):
we sit together rare than we sit together off on
the side. And it's very much us verse that I'm
not one of those coaches who will say, like, and
I've heard it from some of the top top programs
in City, New Jersey, We're not going to wrestle any
of the private schools. That's not how I am. I

(49:40):
had a losing We had a losing record a couple
of years ago. If you looked at who we lost to.
We lost the entire top ten in the short problems
there's you know, we had thirteen loss as ten and
when we went to the top ten eleven schools and
you know, I I you know, I'm friendly with coach Gallagher,

(50:05):
I'm I'm friends with Billy Ashmal. I have nothing but
good things to say about those guys, But I also
want to beat those guys so badly, Like I want
to beat those guys like more than I can breathe,
you know, and more than I want to breathe. And
it's it's because the best competition brings out the best
in us, you know. So I love the private first

(50:29):
public debate. It is the hot Why is everybody talking
about well, because it's that. It's that it has that
same feel, that same of the nostalgia of the OG
Short Conference rivalry and the District turned three rivalry, the
B North of the B South. Except for now I'm

(50:50):
the same team.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
I think.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I wanted to be one state tournament, and I want
it to be public states, private states.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
The who am I to say about the regions? If
I would have voted, I would have said, no, leave
it the way it is it's great and look how
that turned out really benefited me, really benefited us, and
it's I think it's what was best for the kids.
There's no doubt in my mind. The traveling south, the

(51:23):
they're putting people who will never see each other again
and don't know each other in the same gym is
a little scared. I think that's a big reason about
you know what's happened with the incidents, and you know
that the hate towards some schools. I think you guys
know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I think you know.
I think it's because you know I can I'll use

(51:47):
I'll use your guys as the example. Like and it's
it's just an example. It's made up, but it has
no truth to it. But like I know the areas
all right, mister Airy, he's allowed, all right, But really
I know he's a good guy and he means well,
you know, like it if you know my son doesn't

(52:11):
beat rich area or Junior area, like, we're not going
to take it personally. We're not gonna want to fight
the area's like we've known him since we were this big,
you know, and like, but when you don't know the people,
I just think it's I think it's a little different.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
There's not that same way, you know, respector right. And
when you bring in one of those private schools to
your district and Long branch On, there's the way the
numbers work. I've got to figure it out that you
should only have to wrestle against a private school in
your district every thirteen years. We wrestled against Saint Peter's Prep.

(52:52):
Three years ago we were division champs. We didn't have
a district champ for the first time in ten years.
It's called and now again we have a private school
win again. Like I don't really follow or I can't
really keep up. We've got another private school in our district,
so that you know, three years later, four years later,
and it's and and you know, if you complain you

(53:13):
can get out of it. You know, I'm not one
to complain. I'm pretty sure if you complain you can
get out of it. I'm not want to complain, but
it's you know, you put Saint Peter's Prep in Point
Borrow's gym, like Pointborough hosts districts and Point Borrow seven
best wrestlers go out there and wrestle against seven of

(53:34):
the top kids in the state. And if it doesn't
work out, you know where Point Burrow, one of their
best kids doesn't win. And now the tradition of having
a state champ for however many years is now done.
Our district champs are for however many years is now
done because all of a sudden, Saint Peters Prep is
in your district. The people in the gym are even
be really mad about that. You know so well, you know,

(53:58):
like I said, I think it's worked out for the parody,
no doubt, but some some things maybe we should keep
yeah with people that know people.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yeah, Now that's a good that's a good perspective. It's
not something I never thought about it like that way,
but that that brings a very interesting point. And I
was coach Nucci broke it down, so we kind of
swallowed the pill of you know, the reasoning behind the
alignment and if it makes it better for for long
Branch and other schools in the Shore Conference have opportunities

(54:30):
to get kids down to the state. We're all for that,
but we're like you, we will we will cause a
ruckus if they decide to ever separate it and make
it more than one state champion because it's I think
there's only two or three state estates in the country
now that still have one state champion.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
It's so special. And there are those people who are
going to want to do it for like I wanted
to do it for a Long Branch. They're they don't
want to do it for their hometown, like you want
to do it for Point Borrow, and uh that I'll
never che each. I don't think that'll ever change. I
know we've had some big transfers and ship some kids

(55:05):
you thought would never leave. You know, I'm gonna leave
it at that. But I still think somewhere deep down
in there, there's gonna be long Branch kids who want
to represent Long Branches and be Rarity kids who want
to represent Rarity. It's going to be Memorial kids and
want to wrestle for Memorial And.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
All right, Ritchie got anything else for Billy before we
get in the final four.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I mean, we could talk all night about Short Conference,
Long Branch Green Wave one of the best mascots in
the Short Conference. So but we want to be respectful here.
There's a young in in the background.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
I hope that didn't mess out.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
So yeah, not at all. We've we've had everything on
this show.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
You name, it's my wife. We were like, I was
telling you guys, we did tune to dinner. I was
tuning fishing on Sunday. Thank god we got them quit.
Thank god it was a morning bite. We could turn
around and come on in for the four clock games,
you know. And then I was cutting I went to football,
and then I was cutting fish last night, and then

(56:11):
tonight we were prepping the dinner. So my wife's like,
hasn't been seeing much of me. She's really been canta
quint and you know, shout Eliza, thank you.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
I love you, happy wife, happy life. Let's get into
the final floor.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
But she's she knows. She came when we were dating.
She went to Rumps and Brickamore. She was like, you know,
that was crazy. I got a lot of questions. I'm like, well,
now you know what you're in for that there was
twenty seven twenty seven, oh down to the first ever
Rumps and State champ.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
All right, Billy, first final floor I got for you, sir.
Are you a coffee drinker?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, how do you bring your coffee? And how'd you
take it?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I drink coffee we brewed at home. We brewed in
an old school pot. My wife gets Duncan. She's being
on Duncan, the grinds and yeah, milk, whole milk, organic
grass fed whole milk. One of my trained partner roommates

(57:23):
one pounder cornell U pen and Odu Caleb Richardson. He
got me on the organic grass fed whole milk and
I've stuck with it. I put a lot of whole milk,
and it's light all right, But I don't go too
sweet with the shugars. I'm lucky. I might take one
when I'm when I'm out getting a coffee out and

(57:46):
it might make its way home, but normally non sugar.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
All right, get down with that, You get down with
rook any whatever.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, shout out to rook New
Orleans style. I go pumpkin too. This is a milk ship,
this is this is a milk shit.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
What about you guys?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Uh, well, we're down in the south now, so it's
pretty warm down here. So right now, I know Jimmy
is I'm on a cold brew kick, but I do uh,
I do uh full fat heavy cream nice.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Yeah, I'm black. I drink the town. Yeah, I drink it,
drink the dump town Nitro colbro out of the can.
At this point, I just need to get it in
me as fast as I can and get on on
my day.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I know down in Florida they love the just this shot, right, Yeah,
a lot of people like you on Flaria because it's
like you said, it's so hot on me. They don't
want to hold hot coffee.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, yep, Billy, do you have any daily practices rituals
that you do on a regular basis to show up
as the strongest version of Billy George.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
I used to say, you know, I don't. I don't
lift weights.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I just surf.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
That's my that is my strength training. I'm, you know,
strictly surfing, fishing, and wrestling. But I'm kind of an
inter minute faster. I wait, I'm a cheater because I
have my coffee right, But I am gonna go, go, go,

(59:31):
and then boom break that fast. Around midday. I love
sandwiches and then I'm gonna I'm gonna eat dinner. I'm
not a snacker, but I do try and drink a
bunch of water that coffee cup. It's got to be
a water before it's a coffee, then it's got to

(59:53):
be a water immediately after. So I can still play
with the kids to keeps me, you, you know, wrestling
as much as I can playing scouteam quarterback. I'm still
a rabbit on the pursuit trail and I'm like, how
fast is that kid? Run one hundred? You know. I'm like,

(01:00:14):
I've ran a you know, I'm filing now. I'm ran
eleven seven. They're like at eleven three.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
I don't know, well, I feel you with the timer
stricker feeds I am, which will tell you I'm pretty
anal when it comes to that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
But well, that's how I remembered you. It was like
you were like on the cutting edge when you were
in high school of the diet and just being the
best version of yourself. And that's why I looked up
to you so much. When you were at shortening and
I was going short and part of the reason why
I looked after you so much, I just knew that

(01:00:53):
you were in incredible shade and you treated your body
like it was a temple. And I wanted to be
big for my weight class like you. I saw myself
as long and lean, not like you know, I wasn't
poppy muscular like my dad and my uncle, and I
knew I was gonna I was gonna need you know,

(01:01:15):
a little funk role or something. And then at some
point then you know, like they're like, you might be coach.
Coach Han used to call me the fastest white boy.
You might be the fastest white boy at corner.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Derrett Well, I appreciate that, Billy, that means a lot
coming from you, rich and I have always held your
family and I regard so the feeling is mutual. Billy,
What are you listening to right now? Music? Podcasts, audio? Books?
Are you reading anything?

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
I love reading. I love anything Hemingway. I read a
lot of his books are just like a couple on
the shelf. Though. You know, being a teacher, you get
to see all these books that you're supposed to read
in high school, right and I made sure that all
those books that I took the tests on that I

(01:02:10):
went back and really read again. Malcolm Gladwell, if I
had to pick like an Arthur who was currently writing books,
and you know, if you haven't read anything glad Well,
he you know he's awesome. He makes a story out
of everything important in today's society. Blank is the one

(01:02:34):
that really set out to me. Everybody talks about Outliers,
how that's such a great book for being successful, But
Blank was one that really set out to me making
snap judgments, how to make the best snap trudgments. Music.
I love music. In the woodshop, the music is going NonStop,
and the wrestling room, the music is going NonStop. At

(01:02:55):
my house. You never have to do what you choors, right,
it's music. And I listened to like to. I like
to I pride myself in saying I'm a renaissance man,
and then I like to, you know, try everything and
try and do everything and be well around it. But
one that I spoke to me last year with wrestling,
you know, wrestling Peace Oi Osborne, uh name and blood

(01:03:22):
and if you you gotten sure you guys allow one.
But that was one we played a lot this past year.
And you know, he says, my name is Lucifer. You know,
I mean, it's it's you. We're not you know, no
Satanic worship. But but you know, your love has got

(01:03:47):
to be pure and then you'll, you know, understand how
I'm gonna feel and put us through the roof. A
couple of times this year where we were like, well
we might have to take it, we might have to
take the bad ones. Is going to make sure really
locked C.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Bob Marley.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
We listened. Like I said, we're around well rounded. You're
listening to that too. You know we're coming in hot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Nice. The last one shot shot, last one is a
lighthearted one to close it out. Maybe it's a you know,
there's a lot of great food in New Jersey. Maybe
it's a food item, maybe it's a beverage. A lot
of wrestling coaches or golfers. I know you're an avid
fisherman and a surfer. Do you have a guilty pleasure?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
M yeah, getting tubed? It feels so so good, and
you know, like it is the older you get, you
do feel like it's like a cellfish pursuit or you know,
going out fishing all day and a hours that go

(01:05:01):
into it. But it's just it's so prim and you know,
more more music listen. I listened to again, you know
God Rest you Me, Buffetts Soul and uh, you know
Mother Ocean. I can hear you call and it's just

(01:05:22):
it's just something that's like wrestling. There's just something in
me and growing up my dad again running the beach
club those years, and Maguel working for him down at
the beach, and you know, everybody was it didn't matter,
like if you went down that beach and you stared
at the ocean for long enough, you know you wanted

(01:05:43):
to go into the belly, whether it was out of
that boat or it was you know, it was on
the board. I can't wait too. I love that's you know,
that's what teaching is all about, Shay. It was the passions,
that passion for learning and becoming a life home learning learner,
sharing that passion of being a competitor, and and that

(01:06:04):
more on one aspect of wrestling. There's nothing like it,
you know. And it's so funny, you know, the surfer
connection and wave wrestling. We always we always talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
You know, you ever get in the boat with your
dad in row.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I've gotten the boat with my dad. My dad has
always felt like I was a bowman and that he
was a boutman and he is a bautman. So we've
actually never competed together and we should probably just do it,
you know. And I think he's he but he's not

(01:06:47):
at that point yet, Like he's still at that point
I don't want to date him. I'm thirty four, all right.
He's still at that point where he trains to be
the best in the world, period stop. And he says,
when I can't be the best in the world, I'm done.
You know, when I can't be the best in the world,

(01:07:10):
you know, that's it, and that's you know, God bless
my family, you know, and my mentors, you know, all
the mentors that I've had having that attitude of having
the pride to just be the best. Jimmy brought up

(01:07:31):
Rob Coo and he used to say, if you're the
best at whatever you do, you're gonna make a million dollars,
You're gonna make a million dollars because you know, whatever
it is, I feel the best at it. And like
I said, you know, hm, I was lucky enough. You know,

(01:07:52):
we'll get into vote. We're gonna make sure make sure
that you know. Obviously he took me rolling. Yeah, but
we've never actually because we've raced against each other, and
I try to stay as far away from them as
I've seen. I've believing I've seen. I don't know if

(01:08:14):
you guys have seen, but.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
I've been down Atlantic State for Lifeguard Nationals.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Growing for my dad is a full contact sport. It's
like football at Michigan State or wrestling with his heavyweights.
It was. It was a full contact sport. I'm you know,
it's like me coaching the football team. Now. It's like
these kids are like, you don't have a helmet or
trolder pads on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
My dad.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
We don't. I don't think we need him, Billy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Sorry. I appreciate you bringing up surfing a couple of
times in this podcast because Rich and I growing up
in Point Pleasant. I know Rich surf a little bit.
I didn't surf at all, but we know that some
of the best athletes that were walking the hallways in
Plamborough were surfers and skaters. So I appreciate you bringing
that aspect up during this podcast because I Dan Beverly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
I love his dad. Jeff Jordan was, you know the
Point grow superstar that we were in the same Gray
one Senior Nationals together. Awesome, awesome. Remembery, you know, mister
Beverly's legend.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
He is a legend and he be and he you know, he.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Came up to me after getting me a huge hug,
and this is what we talked about Region six, right.
You know, he and Scottie were river. You know, he
comes up with me, hugs me, Scotty fast teammate, state
champion of mine. Shout out on my teammates. You know,
Nick is a Cornell and and I could go one
and on Johnny and Buck and Sean Brown coaching with

(01:09:56):
me still and Lookie Blina coaching with me, and Jazzy
coaching the middle school team. You know again just coach
the angelus going, you just you just we're so blessed
my brother and uh yeah, but mister Revere came up

(01:10:18):
to me and just said being a national champion then
you know, Jordan's brother, Jeff was state champion and he
said this. I told Jordan, being a national champions way
better than to be the state champion. You know, you
grow up and you just as they say, Wressell Baxter
right life. You know, all I wanted to do was

(01:10:39):
beat Andrew camp Platano. He was gonna be the fourth
He wasn't going to be the first four time, or
if I was the second fourth time, or if I
had something to say about it, and uh, you know,
not having that opportunity, but then having me get back
out there and go get the next best thing, which
is what I had already done. You know, freaking thank god.

(01:11:04):
I wanted to chase all those weights when I was
little and then my superpower a man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Well, Billy, thank you so much for your time Tonight's heart.
This was a pleasure. After the season, when you guys
bring home that state title, we got to get you
back on because we only got the tip of the
iceberg tonight. There's a bunch of more stuff we want
to talk to you about, So thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Guys. I know I go on and on. I try.
I got that those focusing issues I told the kids about,
you know, I tell the kids about. But I really
appreciate you guys having me on. I've been following you.
I'm a big fan of what you guys are doing.
I really appreciate what you're doing for the sport. You
want to talk about me being an ambassador. There's no
better ambassadors than the guys across the computer for me,

(01:11:49):
So thank you so much for having me on. It's
been an honor and absolute pleasure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Well, thank you for your kind words, Billy. We really
do shit, and like you Jimmy said earlier, we do
hold your family in high regard. So tell your your
dad and your uncle that the air Bro said high and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
He says so.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Best of luck with the football team. Don't get don't
get hurt without the pads and the helmet, and have
a great wrestling season. Like Jimmy said, we'll get you
back on here sometime after wrestling season.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Thanks guys, have a great night, have a great season.
I look forward to hearing from you and following along
all the great stuff you're doing on Ari Brothers Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Thanks again, appreciate it all right, ladies and gentlemen, that's
Billy George from a Long Branch High School. Make sure
you go check those links in the show notes. Go
give the Green Wave wrestlers a little love telling the
Aera Bro sent you. That is all for us this week.
We do appreciate you tuning in. We hope you have
a great rest of your week and come back next
week to join us. We'll be back on Monday. We're
going back to Point Pleasant Borrow. Longtime friend of the

(01:12:56):
aer Bros, Brian Decker, headcross country coach at Point Pleasant
Borrow High School. We'll be joining us on Monday night.
And then another longtime friend of the podcast, Coach Bradley
Souder is going to be back from the University of
Cumberland's to talk about the cross country season this fall.
Have a great weekend, We'll see you next week.
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