November 24, 2024 • 33 mins
Rockers! Today Little Ozzy drops by ABAO to talk some rock and wrestling! For those of you who don't know Little Ozzy is not only a killer musical tribute to Ozzy Osbourne he travels and is the commentary for Micro Wrestling! So we talk about how he got started in music, Americas Got Talent, Meeting Sharon and Ozzy, and breaking into the wrestling business out of no where! Check it out NOW!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Gearnetwork dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The following is a presentation of the Gear Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Hey to Skip Winger and you're listening to All Bets
Are Off Podcasts with Robbie Vegas.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What's up, rock Soldiers, and welcome back to the All
Bets Are Off Podcast. I'm your host, the rock star
Robbie Vegas, and today we're going to have some fun
with my guest, Little Ozzy. We are going to get
into micro championship wrestling, becoming Little Ozzy, his favorite bands,
a great lightning round and I think you guys are
really going to enjoy this. For those of you who
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don't know, uh, stick around and if you're a rock
and roll fan, if you're a wrestling fan, I have
no doubt my mind, you're really going to enjoy this show.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Jesus say we love.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
There's no need and out.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It must have shut the found the street of you man.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Carry all right, man, thanks for being here on the
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All Bets Off Podcast? How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm doing good. Thank you for having me. Robbie Vegas.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Man, this is gonna be a good time. We've been
talking about it for a couple of months now, so
we finally nailed it down and we're here and we're
bringing it to the people.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yes, sir, we are here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So let's start out with this. When did you first
get into rock and roll?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I first got in a rock and roll way back
in the seventies when my grandmother brought she brought home
from Ronuck, Virginia, the Kiss Destroyer album and that was it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I wanted drums for Christmas and I had one drum.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I think it was a snare, and I would like
I would beat the devil out of it to every
Kiss song on that album.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's when I got started. And earlier that. My grandmother
was really.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Instrumental in a lot of my music because she was she.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Was somewhat of a celebrity in the Richmond.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Virginia area. She was a piano player and she performed
for Elizabeth Taylor. A lot of people probably don't even
know who she is because that shows my age.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But she did some stuff with Lionel Ritchie and she
actually taught Paul Stanley how to walk like a woman
in Ronuck, Virginia at the Civic Center in about seventy six.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Wow, it was amazing for me as a child hear
all those things. Of course, she got to see out
his makeup back then, and she had a modeling convention
there because she taught modeling and she got a request
while she was in town for that. So that was
huge for me as a child and to be in
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that family. And she had also put me in a
lot of children's theater things like that, so that was
that kind of just put the fire in me at
a young age.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's awesome. So your your first instrument then was the drums.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It was actually the drums, yeah, excellent.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Always would would learn like being Floyd the Wall and
you know, you could hear the beats and stuff and
I could just feel it all. So it was a
buddy named Floyd Henderson. I'll never forget him from high
school when I could always play, you know, beats and stuff,
but I could never do that halftime you know, and
double up the kicks and all that. And this guy
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he was just such a cool kid. He was in
our high school and he had a Scorpions album with
No One Like You and they had that all that
weird stuff, and he taught me how to do that,
and that's when I learned how to really start playing well.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I never really played drums in a band, like full time.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Really, So when you started playing in bands, was it
straight to vocals or what were you doing?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It was? It was a weird thing because I picked
the guitar up.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
At around thirteen, okayeen fifteen, and I had failed school
so much in middle school that my history teacher said
she knew how to play Stairway to Heaven on the
guitar and she would teach me if I brought my
grades up.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So I brought my grades up and I got to
play Stairway to Heaven in front of the whole school.
And then after that I failed.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But it was cool. It was the taste of wow.
The kids loved it. I could feel it.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And then I switched to vocals full time when I
was about seventeen.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, So where does professional wrestling happen? When does that
come about?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Man?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That comes about only the last year and a half, which.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Is really really cool because you know, I've been doing
the tribute band for about thirteen fourteen years now. Yeah,
and it just I don't know if you know how
that goes, but it's up and down.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Man, It's like boom, you know. I did Americans Got Talent.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And then I did the Ozzie Osbourne World History Detour
thing with Jack and Ozzie, And when I did that,
it really would put me on the map for like a.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Year, and then it would fade out and get slow again.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So you know, the micro Wrestling Federation, the owner, Jack
called me a year and a half ago and said
they were going to be filming a Discovery Channel season
first season, no sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Six seasons for the six episodes for the first season.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And he wanted to hire my entire band to play
Microfest in Nashville, which would be the finale. So long
story short, he hired my band to do that. They
didn't want nothing but little people in.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The show for the most part, so he hired me
after that to become a full time part of the
micro Wrestling Federation. I sing and perform a few Aussie
songs nightly and I am the match commentator as well.
So it's the cool, coolest gig I've ever had, next
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to being a little Aussie and playing.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Of course, the live music and the two hours of
Sabbath and Ozzie is great, but it's a break to
do eighty minutes every night and then just talk.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And run my mouth for us.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So I guess my question then, so it's relatively new.
You said a year and a half. But were you
were already a wrestling fan before that or no?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I never was a big wrestling fan, but all my life,
like I would go to a match when I was young,
like in my hometown, and there I met Roddy Piper
one year in the summer at eighty two, I think
or eighty. I can't even remember eighty four. It was
way back and Ivan call off and so I knew
who they were and stuff, but I never dreamed I
would be like a part.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Of it, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So when did when did Little Ozzie itself actually start?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Little Ozzie started about fourteen years ago in Richmond, Virginia.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I had toured with a midget kiss band called Mini
Kiss for four years and that was kind of cool
because I learned the ropes and I got to cover
my face, so nobody knew who I really was anyways,
But it was neat because it taught me the ropes
and wow, I can do this. And then I had
a lot of friends at home that you know, you
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look like Ozzie. You've always sounded like Ozzie. Could, you know,
just try to put together a man. So that's what
I did. And it's funny thing because in the eighties
they Bill Leberty for Piatehouse named me Little Ozzie back
in the club days.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Way back in Richmond, Virginia, and I never dreamed it.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I would actually call it Little Ossie, but it's perfect
with the little thing. So I went back home to
Richmond after I left Mini Kiss and started a real
band with real musicians.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And I know what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And I gained the attention of Sharon Osborne and as
well as Ozzie Osborne.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That was quite a treat. It's been a it's been
a success for me.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, I guess so obviously you're you're an Ouzzi fan
to begin with. So what was it like when when
Sharon and Ozzie, you know, acknowledged you and you and
you you got to meet them and all that.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, you know, the first time was I got a
call from a talent scout saying, I'm from America's got
talent and we're looking for a little Ozzie to bring
on the show. And I thought, wow, that's cool, uh
scripted live reality show. But it was it was the
greatest opportunity to ever had, because they said, we're looking
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for a little Ozzie. You're the only one in existence.
You're gonna sing to Sharon Osborne. She doesn't know you're coming.
Howard Stern's going to ask you. How A Mandel's going
to ask you. But they paid me a healthy sum.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They flew me to Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
They staged an audition, and it was so cool because
when I got there, it was like, Okay, this is
really going to happen. And I chose to say, Mom,
I'm coming home.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I threw her and exactly what I did they asked
me when I was singing there. It was really great.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
When I got home and I watched it, I was
crushed because they were booing me and exing me, and
I was like, what the heck, Oh, that didn't happen
when I was there.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
They edited all these booze in these exes. Because it
was an ex I knew I wasn't going to go forward.
It was staged. It was from both of the Howies,
and but Sharon didn't know what to expect and she
loved it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And they actually came and got me afterwards and took
me on a golf cart to her dressing room, where
she hugged me. She thanked me, she said, oh, you
just did great, and it was just it made my life,
you know. It was just incredible to be able to
meet her in person, see her and hug her. And
because they'd never ever given me a hard time, They've
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been nothing but gracious to me. When I say that,
she said, we'll see it soon, and I was like,
I'd love to see them soon again. And then I
got a call a few years later from Ozzie himself
that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well, that had to be a rush for you, So
how did that go?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Wow, that was really amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I had taken I had to get double hip replacements,
and I had to take a year off of work,
and I was really busy after America's got talent, and
it was just something I didn't want to do. I'd
pushed the pain pills and ate as many things as
I could for a while until I got the surgery.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And then I was.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Just really depressed and I went to rehearsals to tell
the guys that we're gonna have to take a year off.
And we had like six shows with Michael's opening that
was kind of exciting, and I had to cancel everything.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I just could not take it anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It was so cool, and so I went to tell
him and I get a call Rancher, this is all
allays wanting, I said, few and.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That it was a frank call.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I get people called my numbers all over the internet.
It's nothing, need to call it for am a bunch
of guys.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's just really you, you know, this kind of crap.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So about eight minutes later, I got a call back
from the History Gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So you know, I'm up on the Prince of Doctors
and I.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Was like, oh my god, you said this was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It was like prophecies from the Metal Kingdom. You know,
it was really weird.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
But he was just they were grateful, they were laughing,
they were gracious. They were like, Mom told us we're
coming to Williamsburg and we have to meet you, and
and you could have just shot me.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I was like, wow, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Wow, that's that's amazing. You Now, So I met you
in Gatlinburg that just this past year at you know,
the the monster, uh Monster, I want to call Monster
on the Mountain still because that was such a cool.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Name, but.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It does. It does, and you know you were getting
photos taken by Mark Weiss and all that, and so
for the last fourteen years, Little Ozzy has just taken off.
And when when you're you know, not performing and you're
not with you know, wrestling and all these things, are
you recognized everywhere you go as a little Ozzie.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It's it's a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I would say, probably not as much right now as
the wrestler for but way more than I was before.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I came out here. So it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, I would probably say if I went into Walmart
right now anywhere in the country, somebody maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Fifty percent of the time we'll ask for a pictures.
I saw you one here, Yeah, so it was. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
It's an amazing journey. I'm fifty seven years old, dude.
My dream was to be where I'm at now in
my twenties. But it's almost like the Good Lord just
knew that I would have killed myself back then when
I was.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
A wreck and partying and doing all those things.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So it's something that I'm enjoying right now and it's
come full circle.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Like you said, I go to the Montrees on the mountain,
hoping to meet people like you, hoping, you know, Mark
I've been friends with for four years, hoping I can
meet some of the band guys, and never imagining these
people that I grew up with and worshiped on my walls,
he actually knew I was, you know, And to get
up there with Choir Riot and do a number, it's
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just like, Wow, it's an amazing time to be alive.
For me, I've got five years clean. I was a
wreck man.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I've done it all, and it's gratitude.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I get up every day and I'm just grateful and
it just keeps getting better and better.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
The cool thing too, is the reason why I asked
you about the recognition is because you know, I had
told some of my wrestling buddies that I was going
to have you on and they were super excited and
they all knew you and and yeah, they were super
pumped to like hear the episode and they were like, oh,
you got to tell us one of traps and all that,
so you know, that was cool. And then you know,
a few months back, I was at JD Legends, I
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think in Ohio, and there's a picture of you on
the wall and I was and I was like, oh
my god. And that's when I you know, I sent
that picture to you and was like, you're everywhere. And
you know, so you mentioned being clean and sober for
five years and this is this is happening? Or did
happen because you became born again?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Correct? Correct? Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So how did you? How did you? Is that just
something that kind of just you woke up one day
and had an epiphany? Or how does that happen?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You know what, man, it's it's really crazy because I
had an experience when I was a child.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
With what I believe was the Lord.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I got baptized when I was thirteen and didn't live
the wildlife until out after.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I was baptized. You see.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So I went through my uh, I went through a
lot of years of just way, no ain't no way,
you know, and I had little.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Moments here where I'm like, Wow, I'm screwing my kids up.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You know, it's just I'm not available for them mentally,
up and down, up and down, go to na stay
cleaner year and boom, you know, back at it and yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
With you know, no bars hole, man, I'm not a
bashard on the head of Bible. I'm not. I am
a Christian.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I had an experienced five years ago in Saint Augustine,
Florida that was to change my life.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It was incredible. First of all, I was, uh when
I say drugs.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I was addicted for years to opioids, pain and things
like that. And you know, I got off the opioids,
but I would always cross addicted with something we eat, liquor.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Cocaine, whatever. You know. I was off the opioids, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Well, I discovered back in the day there was something
called crank.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I didn't know that it was crystal meth.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Really, I thought it was crank one night and I
did a bump of that and.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I was like, wow, wow, Wow, can I get some
of this?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And so I was to spend probably a year and
a half just I mean literally living keeping my habit
up until I probably was literally going insane. And there
was a guy named Bart Walsh, God Rest his soul.
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I'd met him in Melbourne, Florida previously that year and
he was playing guitar in Little Izzie and I had
a show to do it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Savannah, Georgia, and my wife that is my wife.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Now my daughter was living with her in Florida, and
I had a show, so I came from Virginia to Savannah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Whacked out, no intention.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Of ever going to Florida to visit them, and just
I was gonna get back home and do the show
and get back to Richmond and get back into my
life and myself. And she she, she.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Asked me, did I want to come home? I should
really come to Florida and visit with my daughter and stuff.
So you know, I said I'd go there a week.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
And I literally when I got to Saint Augustine, Florida,
after peeking out of the windows, laying in the floor
of the car halfway down there because the FEDS were
still following.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Me from Virginia. Supposedly, I was too basically flush. What
I had to get on my hands and knees and
just fight this.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Like a man one on one with God. And I
was going crazy because I would look out of the
windows and where we lived downtown Saint Augustine, there was
an apartment complex.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It was an older folks home retirement.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Room, and they were screaming out of the windows at me,
and I was talking to uh, you know, it's insanity
when you stay out for weeks and you take that
and I get that, and it's insanity. But the crazy
thing was, if you really want to hear this, I
can go into the details.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It takes a second, but it's pretty amazing. I had
my daughter there, and I had uh.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Johnny Lawrence, who's lead guitarist now for little Ozzie, who
happened to marry my daughter, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
We were.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I needed help because I really wanted to stop this,
but I just couldn't. I couldn't do it, and I
was dying to use and I was I was going crazy.
So I just I told my friend at the time.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Natash, should have police. Just look at the phone book
and call look up any costal church. I hear these
people are freaked out, the old rattlesnakes. I don't care.
I need something, okay. So this little old man answers the.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Phone and he doesn't know me from so I pray,
and I'm praying. It's like call me tonight, call me tonight.
And I'm really having a hard time and I'm getting
over this. But I had these terrible pains in my neck,
and so I went through a week of this and
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two weeks and got you know, kind of thinking, you know,
a little mormal and stuff. And I got a job
down there at a retail store and I one day
after work I closed up.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I was driving riding a bike because I didn't have
my license. I was that far gone.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
And I was going to use and I went and
bought some parafernalia had I had shop. It said nineteen
ninety nine on the pipe.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I scraped it. I couldn't get it off, just the
nine was still on it. It was wooden.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And I got about halfway home that night and was
skiking ready to storm, and I just I got on
my knees.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
In the middle of a field.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
And I threw that paraphernalia as far as I could,
and I just asked, kin, you know, I need your help.
And I had a little crying session and I got
back on the bike and I went home. And that night,
at eleven thirty, I don't know why, we rode out.
It was a beautiful Sunday night, and there was a
street preacher in the street and he came over to
the car and started talking to Natasha in the car.
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And it was about a week later, not that night,
it was about a week later actually, I'm screwing it
up here. About a week later, I still had nothing,
and it put a really bad ache in the back.
And you know, this is the crazy part. I'm not
one if you go into a church and you see
these people rolling around on the floor, you know, that
stuff freaks me out. Man, it freaks anybody out. In fact,
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the Bible even teaches against that. It says, these people
will come in and see you and they will think
you're nuts.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Don't do that, but it's abused.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
But anyways, this guy was preaching to my wife to
be and my daughter was in the back seat or
someone was in the front seat, and I was in
the back and I had had enough.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I didn't want to hear this crap anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He started talking about this guy that he delivered from
drugs and that he could uh.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
He could see in his in his uh claw in
his in the back of his neck, which I was like,
oh my god, had that hurtin right there?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So you know what happened was I got out of the.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Car and I was I was going to walk back
because I was I was just pissed. I didn't want
to hear uh spiritual it was. It was spiritual on.
What happened was I got out of the car and
he pointed at me and.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I said, yeah, you you need to pray for me
like that, put his hand on my head and he
started praying for me, and I just had a release
and I just cried, and I just I cried like
a baby man, and I cursed, and I screamed and
I yelled, and my daughter was in the back seat crying.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And he said, the.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Most beautiful player for me, and the crazy thing was Robbie.
And I will tell this till the day I died, man,
just like a ghost story or somebody would tell a
ghost story.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
When when he prayed for me, and I felt that belief,
I felt this ton that I can't explain of oppression
lift from me. And I just knew that day that
every payment, every lost failed marriage, every daddy issue, whatever
the crap that was.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That kept me down was gone, and he had healed me.
And I just knew that day I wasn't going to
use it you And since that.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Day almost.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Doing a crystal meth, and I have got He has
restored to me in my life a hundred times when
I've ever had before and relationships with my children, a wife,
a job, meeting cool people like you, and doing things.
It's just continual and that's my story.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Man, that's pretty amazing. And to stay on the topic
of you know, what you have going on and the
whole little Ossie thing that came to you, you actually
got to do a tribute.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Album I did.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, let's talk about that. So when did that come out,
and how did that come about? And let's let's get
the listeners on board so they could check it out.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, so that The thing that was really cool about
that was literally the same month that I had to
take a year off and got the call from Ozzie.
Before that, I'd gotten an email from a German Man
that was he's a history teacher in Germany, but he
teaches it in English.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
He's an English history teacher or something.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I'm not sure, but he said he was putting together
an original album and he wanted me to do.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The vocals and I was like, wow, send me yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So he sent me the scratch tracks and I was like,
whoa man, this stuff sounds just like Sabin, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
But Iron Maiden and it is. It's just really cool.
And this guy plays drums.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
This guy plays all the guitar, all the keyboards, and
he's just phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
So I agreed to do it and he will not
charge this day for a CD or a song. You
can download it free.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It was called The Evil That Cannot Spell, and uh,
it's just a really good song. His songs when it
sounds just like Black Sabbath, you won't know the difference
and his stuff that sounds like Iron Maiden.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But it gave me a lot of freedom.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
To to be myself and sing my own style insteadilizing.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's that's amazing. So you know, we we talked a
lot about Ozzie obviously, we we even mentioned Kiss. But
if I were to ask you who your top four
bands of all time are, who are they?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Man? It's it's so crazy, man, because there's so many
of them.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
But you know, it would definitely be the original Blizzard
of Oz right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But it goes even deeper there.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
There's a lot of weird things that I like, I love,
I love that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I would probably say, hey, that's a tough one, dude.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I went through this glam phase where it was like,
oh my gosh, the hair metal thing where it was
like Iron Maiden.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
So yeah, if I had to list them, honestly, my favorite.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Bands would be Osborne well, Black Sabbath and I was
Osbourne somewhere one or two.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It would definitely be Kwy Riot, It would definitely.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Be Your Slaughters, your your hair metal guys, and I
would have to go with Firehouse because those guys were
always dear to me. And if it weren't for those guys,
I probably wouldn't even be a little Ozzie today.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I don't know. They taught me a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That's awesome. That's a great lineup of bands that you
just that you just dropped there too, So I mean,
obviously you know from just talking to me at the
Mountain that it hair metals my bag, Like, that's that's
my thing.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So I just couldn't believe our talented you were.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Oh thank you man.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, I love yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I appreciate that very very much. So this next thing
that going to do here, we do it with everybody
who comes on the show for the first time, and
it's like this or that round. We call it the
Lightning Round, named after Britt Lightning of Vixen because she
was the first one to do it, and it's just
whatever comes to mind as far as what your answers are.
And it's just for people to get to know you
on a different level instead of just your career. And
(26:18):
these questions have nothing to do with anything. They're just
for fun, all right. So the first one is going
to be what do you prefer dessert or dinner?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Dinner?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
How about New York style pizza or Chicago?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Definitely New York.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Are we going with a cabin or a beach house?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Definitely a beach house, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
How about what's your favorite snack?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Wow? You know what it would be? These Quaker oat patties.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
They're real small, you know, like crackers, but they're like
they have nothing. I'm really on this kind of health
kick thing where they just have no oil and nothing
that's bad for your heart. And then it's all real
and no GMOs.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
And I know exactly, I know exactly those that's crazy.
How about your favorite TV show?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Wow, dude, you're gonna laugh when I say, probably Happy Days.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh that's a great one. I mean, listen, you're talking
to a guy whose favorite TV shows are I Love
Lucy Bewitch, the Monsters, So like Happy Days, is right?
In there for me.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah. Yeah, but now I've been watching I've been watching
this Turkish Empire show called a Otsman.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's kind of cool with subtitles and it's really really bad. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
How about growing up? What was your favorite cartoon?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Bugs?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Bunny and all right? This is this is a weird one,
but we're gonna do it. So you're going through you're
going through the Bermuda triangle. Are you going on a
boat or you're going on a plane?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
And why that's that's a tough one, bro.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I would probably go on a plane because I would
probably die quicker.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
That seems to be the common theme.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yep, definitely.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
What about if I asked you what's your favorite movie
of all time?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I have so many of them, man, but I would
say my favorite movie of all times would be The Shining.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Okay, so you kind of just answered my last question then,
because it was going to be are you're a fan
of horror movies?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I am guilty.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
The Shining is a fantastic, fantastic movie.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Great man, it is movie.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So what's coming up next for you? What can you
tell us as far as shows for either you know,
your your music or wrestling or what's next.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Wow, I'm really excited that we toured for a year
with the micro Wrestlers. I mean literally, my wife and
I and two dogs in an RV in a different
city for two hundred and eighty days.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So it was crazy grueling.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
When he stopped me and Pigeonfords and said, I want
you to work at the Microtorium, it has been wonderful, wonderful. Uh,
there's talk we may get a Vegas residency. So for me,
I'm willing to stay here. I'm willing to go to Vegas.
I'm willing to do whatever that takes to keep that
part of my career going as well as I have
(29:15):
a great boss that says.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Oh, you're gonna go do a number with Quiet, right,
you need to take off. I'll fly in and work
for you.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
So the little Izzie thing, it's been very scarce for
the last year and a half.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
We've done hitting Miss shows that.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Are kind of worth it, but I've been getting a
lot of calls in for Spring up North and on
some things.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So the guys are getting really itchy. I have a
great man.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
They all do other projects too, and they're just like,
when are we gonna do something so I'm excited about
a spring run, hopefully a little Izzy and kind of
putting my face back on the map so people can
see not only a C four foot eight, but man,
he can still.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Love that for you. I love that for you. So
with all that being said, I want you to take
the time right now to plug your social media where
wherever we can get information on you, what you're doing,
your band, your music, your micro wrestling, all of it.
Plug everything because we want people to be able to
follow you and come out and see you and say, hey,
we heard you on the All Beets Rough podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Thank you so much. Robbie Vegas is the sweetest dude
I have ever met.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Check this out little izziebites dot com basically little Izzy
on Facebook, Little Izzie Instagram. I think when I created
TikTok is my name. But if you type little Izzie
you'll see my logo and you can follow me from
there and everything and micro wrestling dot com then check
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it out.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's cool. We got an app, a great app.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Micro wrestling dot com is each one of us, each
micro their their page, their videos, their photos, their bios,
even merch. You can buy you know, my little Izzie
shirts anywhere like that, and I just appreciate you, guys,
appreciate you, Robbie when the honored to meet you that day.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Brother, Oh man, it was a fun day. It was
great to meet you. And I'm glad we got to
do this podcast. And uh, you know, I know I'm
gonna run into you a get out there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So a cruise. Man, I'm trying to get on it.
I'll be there on my videos now.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, absolutely, I.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Would love to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, well, I will.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Be on it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
So if you're on it, I will see you there.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Brother, Thank you, Thank you, man.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Have a good one.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Times have changed and times are strange. I come by,
I say, Mama, I'm coming home.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Times goodbye. It seems to be you could have been
a better friend to me. Mama, I'm coming home. You
tell me go out.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Ahead, me.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Lost and found.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
By your ride.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You're made. Goodbye, He's told me.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Nice bye. Handstand t say bye, Mama, I'm coming. I'd
be around so bad.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Mama, I'm coming.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right, rockers, Once again, that was Little Ozzie. Please
follow him on his social media and also follow the
All Bets Off podcast on x Instagram, and Facebook at
A B A O pod. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
Hey to Skip Winger and you're listening to All Bets
Are Off Podcasts with Robbie Vegas.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What's up, rock Soldiers, and welcome back to the All
Bets Are Off Podcast. I'm your host, the rock star
Robbie Vegas, and today we're going to have some fun
with my guest, Little Ozzy. We are going to get
into micro championship wrestling, becoming Little Ozzy, his favorite bands,
a great lightning round and I think you guys are
really going to enjoy this. For those of you who
(00:47):
don't know, uh, stick around and if you're a rock
and roll fan, if you're a wrestling fan, I have
no doubt my mind, you're really going to enjoy this show.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Jesus say we love.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
There's no need and out.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It must have shut the found the street of you man.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Carry all right, man, thanks for being here on the
(01:43):
All Bets Off Podcast? How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm doing good. Thank you for having me. Robbie Vegas.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Man, this is gonna be a good time. We've been
talking about it for a couple of months now, so
we finally nailed it down and we're here and we're
bringing it to the people.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yes, sir, we are here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So let's start out with this. When did you first
get into rock and roll?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I first got in a rock and roll way back
in the seventies when my grandmother brought she brought home
from Ronuck, Virginia, the Kiss Destroyer album and that was it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I wanted drums for Christmas and I had one drum.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I think it was a snare, and I would like
I would beat the devil out of it to every
Kiss song on that album.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's when I got started. And earlier that. My grandmother
was really.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Instrumental in a lot of my music because she was she.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Was somewhat of a celebrity in the Richmond.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Virginia area. She was a piano player and she performed
for Elizabeth Taylor. A lot of people probably don't even
know who she is because that shows my age.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But she did some stuff with Lionel Ritchie and she
actually taught Paul Stanley how to walk like a woman
in Ronuck, Virginia at the Civic Center in about seventy six.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Wow, it was amazing for me as a child hear
all those things. Of course, she got to see out
his makeup back then, and she had a modeling convention
there because she taught modeling and she got a request
while she was in town for that. So that was
huge for me as a child and to be in
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that family. And she had also put me in a
lot of children's theater things like that, so that was
that kind of just put the fire in me at
a young age.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's awesome. So your your first instrument then was the drums.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It was actually the drums, yeah, excellent.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Always would would learn like being Floyd the Wall and
you know, you could hear the beats and stuff and
I could just feel it all. So it was a
buddy named Floyd Henderson. I'll never forget him from high
school when I could always play, you know, beats and stuff,
but I could never do that halftime you know, and
double up the kicks and all that. And this guy
(03:57):
he was just such a cool kid. He was in
our high school and he had a Scorpions album with
No One Like You and they had that all that
weird stuff, and he taught me how to do that,
and that's when I learned how to really start playing well.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I never really played drums in a band, like full time.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Really, So when you started playing in bands, was it
straight to vocals or what were you doing?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It was? It was a weird thing because I picked
the guitar up.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
At around thirteen, okayeen fifteen, and I had failed school
so much in middle school that my history teacher said
she knew how to play Stairway to Heaven on the
guitar and she would teach me if I brought my
grades up.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So I brought my grades up and I got to
play Stairway to Heaven in front of the whole school.
And then after that I failed.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But it was cool. It was the taste of wow.
The kids loved it. I could feel it.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And then I switched to vocals full time when I
was about seventeen.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, So where does professional wrestling happen? When does that
come about?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Man?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That comes about only the last year and a half, which.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Is really really cool because you know, I've been doing
the tribute band for about thirteen fourteen years now. Yeah,
and it just I don't know if you know how
that goes, but it's up and down.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Man, It's like boom, you know. I did Americans Got Talent.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And then I did the Ozzie Osbourne World History Detour
thing with Jack and Ozzie, And when I did that,
it really would put me on the map for like a.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Year, and then it would fade out and get slow again.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So you know, the micro Wrestling Federation, the owner, Jack
called me a year and a half ago and said
they were going to be filming a Discovery Channel season
first season, no sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Six seasons for the six episodes for the first season.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And he wanted to hire my entire band to play
Microfest in Nashville, which would be the finale. So long
story short, he hired my band to do that. They
didn't want nothing but little people in.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The show for the most part, so he hired me
after that to become a full time part of the
micro Wrestling Federation. I sing and perform a few Aussie
songs nightly and I am the match commentator as well.
So it's the cool, coolest gig I've ever had, next
(06:27):
to being a little Aussie and playing.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Of course, the live music and the two hours of
Sabbath and Ozzie is great, but it's a break to
do eighty minutes every night and then just talk.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And run my mouth for us.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So I guess my question then, so it's relatively new.
You said a year and a half. But were you
were already a wrestling fan before that or no?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I never was a big wrestling fan, but all my life,
like I would go to a match when I was young,
like in my hometown, and there I met Roddy Piper
one year in the summer at eighty two, I think
or eighty. I can't even remember eighty four. It was
way back and Ivan call off and so I knew
who they were and stuff, but I never dreamed I
would be like a part.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Of it, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So when did when did Little Ozzie itself actually start?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Little Ozzie started about fourteen years ago in Richmond, Virginia.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I had toured with a midget kiss band called Mini
Kiss for four years and that was kind of cool
because I learned the ropes and I got to cover
my face, so nobody knew who I really was anyways,
But it was neat because it taught me the ropes
and wow, I can do this. And then I had
a lot of friends at home that you know, you
(07:38):
look like Ozzie. You've always sounded like Ozzie. Could, you know,
just try to put together a man. So that's what
I did. And it's funny thing because in the eighties
they Bill Leberty for Piatehouse named me Little Ozzie back
in the club days.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Way back in Richmond, Virginia, and I never dreamed it.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I would actually call it Little Ossie, but it's perfect
with the little thing. So I went back home to
Richmond after I left Mini Kiss and started a real
band with real musicians.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And I know what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And I gained the attention of Sharon Osborne and as
well as Ozzie Osborne.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That was quite a treat. It's been a it's been
a success for me.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, I guess so obviously you're you're an Ouzzi fan
to begin with. So what was it like when when
Sharon and Ozzie, you know, acknowledged you and you and
you you got to meet them and all that.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, you know, the first time was I got a
call from a talent scout saying, I'm from America's got
talent and we're looking for a little Ozzie to bring
on the show. And I thought, wow, that's cool, uh
scripted live reality show. But it was it was the
greatest opportunity to ever had, because they said, we're looking
(08:49):
for a little Ozzie. You're the only one in existence.
You're gonna sing to Sharon Osborne. She doesn't know you're coming.
Howard Stern's going to ask you. How A Mandel's going
to ask you. But they paid me a healthy sum.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They flew me to Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
They staged an audition, and it was so cool because
when I got there, it was like, Okay, this is
really going to happen. And I chose to say, Mom,
I'm coming home.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I threw her and exactly what I did they asked
me when I was singing there. It was really great.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
When I got home and I watched it, I was
crushed because they were booing me and exing me, and
I was like, what the heck, Oh, that didn't happen
when I was there.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
They edited all these booze in these exes. Because it
was an ex I knew I wasn't going to go forward.
It was staged. It was from both of the Howies,
and but Sharon didn't know what to expect and she
loved it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And they actually came and got me afterwards and took
me on a golf cart to her dressing room, where
she hugged me. She thanked me, she said, oh, you
just did great, and it was just it made my life,
you know. It was just incredible to be able to
meet her in person, see her and hug her. And
because they'd never ever given me a hard time, They've
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been nothing but gracious to me. When I say that,
she said, we'll see it soon, and I was like,
I'd love to see them soon again. And then I
got a call a few years later from Ozzie himself
that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well, that had to be a rush for you, So
how did that go?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Wow, that was really amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I had taken I had to get double hip replacements,
and I had to take a year off of work,
and I was really busy after America's got talent, and
it was just something I didn't want to do. I'd
pushed the pain pills and ate as many things as
I could for a while until I got the surgery.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And then I was.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Just really depressed and I went to rehearsals to tell
the guys that we're gonna have to take a year off.
And we had like six shows with Michael's opening that
was kind of exciting, and I had to cancel everything.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I just could not take it anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It was so cool, and so I went to tell
him and I get a call Rancher, this is all
allays wanting, I said, few and.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That it was a frank call.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I get people called my numbers all over the internet.
It's nothing, need to call it for am a bunch
of guys.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's just really you, you know, this kind of crap.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So about eight minutes later, I got a call back
from the History Gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So you know, I'm up on the Prince of Doctors
and I.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Was like, oh my god, you said this was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It was like prophecies from the Metal Kingdom. You know,
it was really weird.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
But he was just they were grateful, they were laughing,
they were gracious. They were like, Mom told us we're
coming to Williamsburg and we have to meet you, and
and you could have just shot me.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I was like, wow, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Wow, that's that's amazing. You Now, So I met you
in Gatlinburg that just this past year at you know,
the the monster, uh Monster, I want to call Monster
on the Mountain still because that was such a cool.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Name, but.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It does. It does, and you know you were getting
photos taken by Mark Weiss and all that, and so
for the last fourteen years, Little Ozzy has just taken off.
And when when you're you know, not performing and you're
not with you know, wrestling and all these things, are
you recognized everywhere you go as a little Ozzie.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It's it's a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I would say, probably not as much right now as
the wrestler for but way more than I was before.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I came out here. So it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, I would probably say if I went into Walmart
right now anywhere in the country, somebody maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Fifty percent of the time we'll ask for a pictures.
I saw you one here, Yeah, so it was. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
It's an amazing journey. I'm fifty seven years old, dude.
My dream was to be where I'm at now in
my twenties. But it's almost like the Good Lord just
knew that I would have killed myself back then when
I was.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
A wreck and partying and doing all those things.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So it's something that I'm enjoying right now and it's
come full circle.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Like you said, I go to the Montrees on the mountain,
hoping to meet people like you, hoping, you know, Mark
I've been friends with for four years, hoping I can
meet some of the band guys, and never imagining these
people that I grew up with and worshiped on my walls,
he actually knew I was, you know, And to get
up there with Choir Riot and do a number, it's
(13:38):
just like, Wow, it's an amazing time to be alive.
For me, I've got five years clean. I was a
wreck man.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I've done it all, and it's gratitude.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I get up every day and I'm just grateful and
it just keeps getting better and better.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
The cool thing too, is the reason why I asked
you about the recognition is because you know, I had
told some of my wrestling buddies that I was going
to have you on and they were super excited and
they all knew you and and yeah, they were super
pumped to like hear the episode and they were like, oh,
you got to tell us one of traps and all that,
so you know, that was cool. And then you know,
a few months back, I was at JD Legends, I
(14:14):
think in Ohio, and there's a picture of you on
the wall and I was and I was like, oh
my god. And that's when I you know, I sent
that picture to you and was like, you're everywhere. And
you know, so you mentioned being clean and sober for
five years and this is this is happening? Or did
happen because you became born again?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Correct? Correct? Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So how did you? How did you? Is that just
something that kind of just you woke up one day
and had an epiphany? Or how does that happen?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You know what, man, it's it's really crazy because I
had an experience when I was a child.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
With what I believe was the Lord.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I got baptized when I was thirteen and didn't live
the wildlife until out after.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I was baptized. You see.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So I went through my uh, I went through a
lot of years of just way, no ain't no way,
you know, and I had little.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Moments here where I'm like, Wow, I'm screwing my kids up.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You know, it's just I'm not available for them mentally,
up and down, up and down, go to na stay
cleaner year and boom, you know, back at it and yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
With you know, no bars hole, man, I'm not a
bashard on the head of Bible. I'm not. I am
a Christian.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I had an experienced five years ago in Saint Augustine,
Florida that was to change my life.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It was incredible. First of all, I was, uh when
I say drugs.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I was addicted for years to opioids, pain and things
like that. And you know, I got off the opioids,
but I would always cross addicted with something we eat, liquor.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Cocaine, whatever. You know. I was off the opioids, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Well, I discovered back in the day there was something
called crank.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I didn't know that it was crystal meth.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Really, I thought it was crank one night and I
did a bump of that and.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I was like, wow, wow, Wow, can I get some
of this?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And so I was to spend probably a year and
a half just I mean literally living keeping my habit
up until I probably was literally going insane. And there
was a guy named Bart Walsh, God Rest his soul.
(16:38):
I'd met him in Melbourne, Florida previously that year and
he was playing guitar in Little Izzie and I had
a show to do it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Savannah, Georgia, and my wife that is my wife.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Now my daughter was living with her in Florida, and
I had a show, so I came from Virginia to Savannah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Whacked out, no intention.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Of ever going to Florida to visit them, and just
I was gonna get back home and do the show
and get back to Richmond and get back into my
life and myself. And she she, she.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Asked me, did I want to come home? I should
really come to Florida and visit with my daughter and stuff.
So you know, I said I'd go there a week.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
And I literally when I got to Saint Augustine, Florida,
after peeking out of the windows, laying in the floor
of the car halfway down there because the FEDS were
still following.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Me from Virginia. Supposedly, I was too basically flush. What
I had to get on my hands and knees and
just fight this.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Like a man one on one with God. And I
was going crazy because I would look out of the
windows and where we lived downtown Saint Augustine, there was
an apartment complex.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It was an older folks home retirement.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Room, and they were screaming out of the windows at me,
and I was talking to uh, you know, it's insanity
when you stay out for weeks and you take that
and I get that, and it's insanity. But the crazy
thing was, if you really want to hear this, I
can go into the details.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It takes a second, but it's pretty amazing. I had
my daughter there, and I had uh.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Johnny Lawrence, who's lead guitarist now for little Ozzie, who
happened to marry my daughter, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
We were.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I needed help because I really wanted to stop this,
but I just couldn't. I couldn't do it, and I
was dying to use and I was I was going crazy.
So I just I told my friend at the time.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Natash, should have police. Just look at the phone book
and call look up any costal church. I hear these
people are freaked out, the old rattlesnakes. I don't care.
I need something, okay. So this little old man answers the.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Phone and he doesn't know me from so I pray,
and I'm praying. It's like call me tonight, call me tonight.
And I'm really having a hard time and I'm getting
over this. But I had these terrible pains in my neck,
and so I went through a week of this and
(19:31):
two weeks and got you know, kind of thinking, you know,
a little mormal and stuff. And I got a job
down there at a retail store and I one day
after work I closed up.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I was driving riding a bike because I didn't have
my license. I was that far gone.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
And I was going to use and I went and
bought some parafernalia had I had shop. It said nineteen
ninety nine on the pipe.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I scraped it. I couldn't get it off, just the
nine was still on it. It was wooden.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And I got about halfway home that night and was
skiking ready to storm, and I just I got on
my knees.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
In the middle of a field.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
And I threw that paraphernalia as far as I could,
and I just asked, kin, you know, I need your help.
And I had a little crying session and I got
back on the bike and I went home. And that night,
at eleven thirty, I don't know why, we rode out.
It was a beautiful Sunday night, and there was a
street preacher in the street and he came over to
the car and started talking to Natasha in the car.
(20:29):
And it was about a week later, not that night,
it was about a week later actually, I'm screwing it
up here. About a week later, I still had nothing,
and it put a really bad ache in the back.
And you know, this is the crazy part. I'm not
one if you go into a church and you see
these people rolling around on the floor, you know, that
stuff freaks me out. Man, it freaks anybody out. In fact,
(20:53):
the Bible even teaches against that. It says, these people
will come in and see you and they will think
you're nuts.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Don't do that, but it's abused.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
But anyways, this guy was preaching to my wife to
be and my daughter was in the back seat or
someone was in the front seat, and I was in
the back and I had had enough.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I didn't want to hear this crap anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He started talking about this guy that he delivered from
drugs and that he could uh.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
He could see in his in his uh claw in
his in the back of his neck, which I was like,
oh my god, had that hurtin right there?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So you know what happened was I got out of the.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Car and I was I was going to walk back
because I was I was just pissed. I didn't want
to hear uh spiritual it was. It was spiritual on.
What happened was I got out of the car and
he pointed at me and.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I said, yeah, you you need to pray for me
like that, put his hand on my head and he
started praying for me, and I just had a release
and I just cried, and I just I cried like
a baby man, and I cursed, and I screamed and
I yelled, and my daughter was in the back seat crying.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And he said, the.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Most beautiful player for me, and the crazy thing was Robbie.
And I will tell this till the day I died, man,
just like a ghost story or somebody would tell a
ghost story.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
When when he prayed for me, and I felt that belief,
I felt this ton that I can't explain of oppression
lift from me. And I just knew that day that
every payment, every lost failed marriage, every daddy issue, whatever
the crap that was.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That kept me down was gone, and he had healed me.
And I just knew that day I wasn't going to
use it you And since that.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Day almost.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Doing a crystal meth, and I have got He has
restored to me in my life a hundred times when
I've ever had before and relationships with my children, a wife,
a job, meeting cool people like you, and doing things.
It's just continual and that's my story.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Man, that's pretty amazing. And to stay on the topic
of you know, what you have going on and the
whole little Ossie thing that came to you, you actually
got to do a tribute.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Album I did.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, let's talk about that. So when did that come out,
and how did that come about? And let's let's get
the listeners on board so they could check it out.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, so that The thing that was really cool about
that was literally the same month that I had to
take a year off and got the call from Ozzie.
Before that, I'd gotten an email from a German Man
that was he's a history teacher in Germany, but he
teaches it in English.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
He's an English history teacher or something.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I'm not sure, but he said he was putting together
an original album and he wanted me to do.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The vocals and I was like, wow, send me yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So he sent me the scratch tracks and I was like,
whoa man, this stuff sounds just like Sabin, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
But Iron Maiden and it is. It's just really cool.
And this guy plays drums.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
This guy plays all the guitar, all the keyboards, and
he's just phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
So I agreed to do it and he will not
charge this day for a CD or a song. You
can download it free.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It was called The Evil That Cannot Spell, and uh,
it's just a really good song. His songs when it
sounds just like Black Sabbath, you won't know the difference
and his stuff that sounds like Iron Maiden.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But it gave me a lot of freedom.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
To to be myself and sing my own style insteadilizing.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's that's amazing. So you know, we we talked a
lot about Ozzie obviously, we we even mentioned Kiss. But
if I were to ask you who your top four
bands of all time are, who are they?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Man? It's it's so crazy, man, because there's so many
of them.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
But you know, it would definitely be the original Blizzard
of Oz right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But it goes even deeper there.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
There's a lot of weird things that I like, I love,
I love that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I would probably say, hey, that's a tough one, dude.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I went through this glam phase where it was like,
oh my gosh, the hair metal thing where it was
like Iron Maiden.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
So yeah, if I had to list them, honestly, my favorite.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Bands would be Osborne well, Black Sabbath and I was
Osbourne somewhere one or two.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It would definitely be Kwy Riot, It would definitely.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Be Your Slaughters, your your hair metal guys, and I
would have to go with Firehouse because those guys were
always dear to me. And if it weren't for those guys,
I probably wouldn't even be a little Ozzie today.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I don't know. They taught me a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That's awesome. That's a great lineup of bands that you
just that you just dropped there too, So I mean,
obviously you know from just talking to me at the
Mountain that it hair metals my bag, Like, that's that's
my thing.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So I just couldn't believe our talented you were.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Oh thank you man.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, I love yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I appreciate that very very much. So this next thing
that going to do here, we do it with everybody
who comes on the show for the first time, and
it's like this or that round. We call it the
Lightning Round, named after Britt Lightning of Vixen because she
was the first one to do it, and it's just
whatever comes to mind as far as what your answers are.
And it's just for people to get to know you
on a different level instead of just your career. And
(26:18):
these questions have nothing to do with anything. They're just
for fun, all right. So the first one is going
to be what do you prefer dessert or dinner?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Dinner?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
How about New York style pizza or Chicago?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Definitely New York.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Are we going with a cabin or a beach house?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Definitely a beach house, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
How about what's your favorite snack?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Wow? You know what it would be? These Quaker oat patties.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
They're real small, you know, like crackers, but they're like
they have nothing. I'm really on this kind of health
kick thing where they just have no oil and nothing
that's bad for your heart. And then it's all real
and no GMOs.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
And I know exactly, I know exactly those that's crazy.
How about your favorite TV show?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Wow, dude, you're gonna laugh when I say, probably Happy Days.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh that's a great one. I mean, listen, you're talking
to a guy whose favorite TV shows are I Love
Lucy Bewitch, the Monsters, So like Happy Days, is right?
In there for me.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah. Yeah, but now I've been watching I've been watching
this Turkish Empire show called a Otsman.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's kind of cool with subtitles and it's really really bad. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
How about growing up? What was your favorite cartoon?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Bugs?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Bunny and all right? This is this is a weird one,
but we're gonna do it. So you're going through you're
going through the Bermuda triangle. Are you going on a
boat or you're going on a plane?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
And why that's that's a tough one, bro.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I would probably go on a plane because I would
probably die quicker.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
That seems to be the common theme.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yep, definitely.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
What about if I asked you what's your favorite movie
of all time?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I have so many of them, man, but I would
say my favorite movie of all times would be The Shining.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Okay, so you kind of just answered my last question then,
because it was going to be are you're a fan
of horror movies?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I am guilty.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
The Shining is a fantastic, fantastic movie.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Great man, it is movie.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So what's coming up next for you? What can you
tell us as far as shows for either you know,
your your music or wrestling or what's next.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Wow, I'm really excited that we toured for a year
with the micro Wrestlers. I mean literally, my wife and
I and two dogs in an RV in a different
city for two hundred and eighty days.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So it was crazy grueling.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
When he stopped me and Pigeonfords and said, I want
you to work at the Microtorium, it has been wonderful, wonderful. Uh,
there's talk we may get a Vegas residency. So for me,
I'm willing to stay here. I'm willing to go to Vegas.
I'm willing to do whatever that takes to keep that
part of my career going as well as I have
(29:15):
a great boss that says.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Oh, you're gonna go do a number with Quiet, right,
you need to take off. I'll fly in and work
for you.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
So the little Izzie thing, it's been very scarce for
the last year and a half.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
We've done hitting Miss shows that.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Are kind of worth it, but I've been getting a
lot of calls in for Spring up North and on
some things.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So the guys are getting really itchy. I have a
great man.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
They all do other projects too, and they're just like,
when are we gonna do something so I'm excited about
a spring run, hopefully a little Izzy and kind of
putting my face back on the map so people can
see not only a C four foot eight, but man,
he can still.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Love that for you. I love that for you. So
with all that being said, I want you to take
the time right now to plug your social media where
wherever we can get information on you, what you're doing,
your band, your music, your micro wrestling, all of it.
Plug everything because we want people to be able to
follow you and come out and see you and say, hey,
we heard you on the All Beets Rough podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Thank you so much. Robbie Vegas is the sweetest dude
I have ever met.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Check this out little izziebites dot com basically little Izzy
on Facebook, Little Izzie Instagram. I think when I created
TikTok is my name. But if you type little Izzie
you'll see my logo and you can follow me from
there and everything and micro wrestling dot com then check
(30:37):
it out.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's cool. We got an app, a great app.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Micro wrestling dot com is each one of us, each
micro their their page, their videos, their photos, their bios,
even merch. You can buy you know, my little Izzie
shirts anywhere like that, and I just appreciate you, guys,
appreciate you, Robbie when the honored to meet you that day.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Brother, Oh man, it was a fun day. It was
great to meet you. And I'm glad we got to
do this podcast. And uh, you know, I know I'm
gonna run into you a get out there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So a cruise. Man, I'm trying to get on it.
I'll be there on my videos now.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, absolutely, I.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Would love to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, well, I will.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Be on it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
So if you're on it, I will see you there.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Brother, Thank you, Thank you, man.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Have a good one.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Times have changed and times are strange. I come by,
I say, Mama, I'm coming home.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Times goodbye. It seems to be you could have been
a better friend to me. Mama, I'm coming home. You
tell me go out.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Ahead, me.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Lost and found.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
By your ride.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You're made. Goodbye, He's told me.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Nice bye. Handstand t say bye, Mama, I'm coming. I'd
be around so bad.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Mama, I'm coming.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right, rockers, Once again, that was Little Ozzie. Please
follow him on his social media and also follow the
All Bets Off podcast on x Instagram, and Facebook at
A B A O pod. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
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