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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it of up.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh no, no, no, true, you'll never guess, so sidebar yes.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
And also I feel like.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I shouldn't have to remember everything I know. Actually I
have to talk about this. Three two one, Hi everyone.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hey, I'm Alicia and I'm Meredith.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And this is also podcast on a lovely Friday night, because,
as Meredith and I just discussed before this, we're gonna
watch movies tonight and it's gonna be lovely.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
We probably little basketball.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
We just giggled so hard before we even hit record,
and I just this is why I love this podcast,
because I just genuinely love talking to you and.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's a giggle. It's just funny. My god.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
At one point we had full tears in our eyes.
It was so fun that we were like, we should
press record. Not that we won't do that already again, but.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
But it happens off recording as well. This is just
our life.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm just recording.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I was eating apples and peanut butter and Mat it's like,
what are you doing at night? And I was like,
it's raining. I think I'm gonn turn on a movie
and then we end up in tears.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Can we all agree that rain is the best because
you can just do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I can't wait, and it's gonna be nice all weekend,
and I have plans all weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
So this is the perfect excuse to be like, I
have no plans tonight because it's raining.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I love that for you.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yes, it's the best.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Let's jump right in. I feel like I have a
lot to talk about. Last week, Meredith had to hold
this together. This week, I'm gonna try and hold this together.
But we all though I could talk to a brick wall,
and so she could. She So we'll see it what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Meredith.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Let's start with small celebrations. Do you have anything to celebrate.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's not perfect weather where you can just wear like
a sweatshirt and shorts or even some leggings. It's a
little chillier. But I am a big crew neck sweatshirt fan,
as I'm currently wearing one, and I love being able
to just wear sweatshirt and like no jagging. I like
just am starting to put away my jackets, which might
be a little premature because I feel like if I
do it, it's gonna snow again. Even though it's many people.

(01:56):
I live in Chicago, and it's possible so stared myself.
So I took them off the hangers. But I'll put
them away in like two weeks. Where like, there's just
no way it can snow in June.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think there's just a lot of rain coming, right, Yeah,
in Chicago, there should be, because a lot of raid's coming.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I know. But you know, when you just know you're
gonna chan yourself, I know, But I just I just
feel like, if I do it, it's it's gonna be like,
you know what, never mind, you do deserve some snow
in May. Oh yeah, so we're there. We're there, but
I'm just you know, I'm just superstitious. So I've taken
the coats off the hangers. We're ready to pack them away,

(02:33):
but we won't do it probably for another week.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Amazing love that.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
What about you?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
God? I don't really have much today.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I got really cheap basketball tickets and me and my
friend are gonna go to a few games. A different friend,
his coworker, bought season tickets the New York Liberty, Yes
women's sports again only, and she I was nervous because
I signed up for two games, and I was like,
you know, if you have season tickets these games you're
probably expensive and you're gonna want to make a dollar

(03:02):
off of them no matter.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Who we come to. But each ticket was forty five bucks.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
And I was like yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
And then I was like, I have this one friend
that we always talk about going together because all of
our other friends have fucking season tickets without us.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
We're like, I guess we got to find some.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
So I texted her and I really like her, and
I think she really likes me. She's a new not
a new friend in New York, but sometimes she's she's
so cool that sometimes I'm like, does she like me?
You know those friends, Yeah, they're hard to read, But
I know she does like me because she always agrees
to hang out. But then sometimes I'm like, like we.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Question our own like it's Nathan. It's like, do they
actually like me? And it's like no, we're fucking incredible.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, I get a little nervous.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
We're also just like very opposite, like she's very like,
she's not more quiet, off spoken, like reserve.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Those are the ones that stress me out the most
because I'm like, am I being too much?

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Like?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Am I overbearing?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
But I texted her today and I was like, hey,
I got the tickets if you want to go to
one or both of these games.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
And she's like, I'll go to both.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I love that You're like you want to do two
things or the scheduled right next to each other. I
got to think of topics to talk about beforehand, because I.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Get I'm dying.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
But it will be fun. So that's like a fun win. Yeah,
forty five dollars a ticket.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Incredible.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I love credible.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
You're basically making money. No.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I When she texts me that, I was like, give
me all four tickets because.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's two tickets two games, Like.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Give me them all and if anything, I'll just eat
the cost if like someone can't go, like fuck.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, well, like say you have to go alone, like
ninety bucks just to go to a game. Nothing, my god.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
The ticket to Chicago and this might just be because
it's Pagebeckers is playing in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I've paid upwards of like one twenty and I was
like this, I'm in the nose now. I'm going to
be in section one oh two for forty five dollars.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's amazing. That's the beauty of season tickets. Like, yeah,
you get that aut costs and you a slightly discounted rate.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, I'm so happy she's selling it at costs. I've
got a really good.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Friend with season tickets and I was like, dude, if
you can't make any games, some to me, and she goes, yeah,
but I want to sell them at the price. And
I was like, don't sell them at the price, sell
them at the cost.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I get wanting to do that a little bit to
give me some of your money. By if you have
friends that want to go, why not just let them
the good cost.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I understand the good ones, Kaylen Clark. Those tickets are
going for over one thousand. Don't sell you tickets the
page backers. That's kind of crazy. They're going so high.
But I that's fine too, I get it. But give
me your Washington Mystics tickets.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Who the fuck wants to see that?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Give me That's what it is. I'm not asking you
to give me the best game where you really carrying
the money and offset the cost of your own tickets.
It's I just want to go to a game.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
The New York Liberty is like one of the best
teams anyway, whoever they play, I'm gonna have fun.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
So skinny, but yeah, so for get bust.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Think that's so exciting, and I'm going with someone fun
And I hope, like me, if she ever listens to this,
she's literally gonna be like, you're such a stalker.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I'd be like, I know, no, you're not. You're not
a stalker. For like hanging out with.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Three and a half years and I'm still like.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Three up months and I was still gonna defend your
behavioruse you guys are actual friends.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
We usually hang out in a group.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Oh well, this is difference. This is how you slowly
become one on one friendship. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
No, I'm so excited. Great, We're gonna have so much fun. Anyway,
what do we do now?

Speaker 3 (06:34):
News news?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Do you want to go first?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
All right? In family news? It's nothing sad. But I've
always I've always whatever I say on this podcast, I
would say it to someone's face.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
And I got called out.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
So just to set the scene for our listener, I
have a cousin probably like thirty three thirty four years old,
white male.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I think that's important to distinguish.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
At Easter someone brought up my podcast, which I it
wasn't just family, there was also other people, so I
was like, please talk about it, but my cousin was like, hey,
I'm gonna support the fam.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
So he went to our podcast to look into it.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I guess, very nice, and he decided to listen to
an episode titled for the Girls and the Gaze.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
For the Girls, Gaze for the Girls, Gays and Days
That's Great.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Which which was six months ago.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Six months ago, it was the post election show that
we did, so this episode wasn't for him, but I digress.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Thank you so much for listening.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Anyway, my mom told me I need to be nice anyway,
So last Friday, this is the best part. Last Friday,
Meredith and I also recorded. During the day, I got
not hinge, I need my cousin.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
There we go. I clicked on his name, hinge, that's
not my cousin. It's different. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I got a message during the work day that said,
for the record, I made about ninety last year. And
I read this. My cousin never text me, and I
went ninety for what like salary? Wise? So confused and
he goes, eka, yeah, to which I respond, were we

(08:16):
talking about this at Easter?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Why don't I know why this is important? Right? So
then he texts me while we're recording, I don't answer.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I read it after, and I to me, I read
it after, and I say, and he says, So on Easter,
I heard you guys talk about your podcast. Obviously, I
knew it wasn't gonna be my cup of tea, obviously,
but I wanted to listen to an episode or two
just for the sake of supporting the fam. So I
was scrolling through and your post election episode caught my

(08:46):
eye for the girls.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
The gays of the days. So just to set the
record straight, I didn't vote for Trump.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I make a lot more than seventy k put on
blast for a vote I never post That'll be the
last time I ever put any energy into giving a
shit about you, to which I went, oh my god,
that is so funny that I've been bought so here.
Then I went back and Meredith went back and we
listened because I was like, what is on the record,

(09:14):
because I didn't think I said anything that bad, but
for him to end this with that'll be the last
time I ever put any energy into giving a shit
about you.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, I was like, I was like fighting words.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
So we listened, and what I said, what I have
a cousin who probably voted for Trump.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Right, And I was like, I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
For the record, he and he did a direction he
didn't I found out later at Thanksgiving he did not
vote for Trump. But also for the record, he didn't
vote for Kamala, so apologies on that. But when I
was on my rant, I was like, and it sucks
he probably did vote for Trump because he makes about
seventy k so these tariffs are going to fucking kill
him and he works in manufacturing.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Like, here's the direction on that he makes me?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Can everybody ninety last year could be more now? So
correct that I though stand by everything else I said.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
It really wasn't that bad, and it's more I did.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Also, he did mention that he felt like I was
coming after blue collar workers, which wasn't it. We clearly
said if you don't have a college degree, that's fine,
but like, however, you're learning about these things, yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
It's important to learn about it, like you can't just
if you're voting uneducated. That's what scared us the most,
because a lot of people did. Because we heavily talked
about how after the election, people were google searching what
is a tariff? And that bothered us immediately.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Also, it has shown, everything has shown people without a
college degree were more likely to vote for Donald Trump.
Very so I was like, I did say, he doesn't
it's a fact he doesn't have a college degree. And
he did take five years to graduate high school, so
he doesn't like school, and that's fine.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I'm not going to say, like, no, shame the five years.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Shade, right, So then I responded back, I laughed, and
then I was like, I've been called I'll own it.
But I did say like, I don't remember this. And
then I did listen and I did ask for are
you sure it's you that I was talking about. I
was gonna listen last week. I was kind of over it.
But he's He then said like, yeah, whatever, and how
I clowned him for not having a business degree.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
But then he said, here's what I think.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Wait, no, no, no, no, no, I cloned my dad for not
having a business degree and being educated about tariffs, like
and he's he's educated, So it's not about not having
a business degree. It's that I do. So I understand things.
But people won't listen to us when we know what
we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
That and I've said this to both my parents. I
always feel very and this. If my cousin wants to
listen to this apology, that's not really an apology here,
it is. I always feel very dismissed by my dad's
side of the family. I don't want to talk about
business in my free time at the Christmas dinner table.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's just not my vibe.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's my job is my job, and then my hobbies
do not include that. Do I like watching reality TV
and like doing things for the girls, of course I
love that. But if you were to actually like listen
to me and like hear me, I'm very smart. I've
always been thankful enough to have a job, but I
work really hard at it and I'm really good at it,
and I feel like people are always.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Like, is she sure she knows what she's talking about? Dude?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
My dad was the business king. He had me under
hr review every year growing up. I know what to
do in business. But that being said, I'm gonna flap
my business degree because I did work hard and I
am educated. Yeah, But then my cousin goes, I'm fairly
certain I know exponentially more about finance than you do

(12:42):
about anything in my world.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
So I'm sorry, but I never claimed to.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, But also, here's my thing. I don't claim to
know your field at all. But how are you going
to say you know more about my field when you're
not in it. That's offensive there, But like, believe whatever
you want. I'm the one that works in finance and
you're not. So shrug Anyway, he says, I think we
should come up with twenty questions each about our fields.

(13:11):
And if I can answer more finance questions than you
manufacturing questions, then you have to admit on your podcast
that I'm educated and you simply have credentials. If you win,
I'll promise you and your listeners right there that you
can choose my vote in twenty eight I'll check whatever
box you want.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
That's not what this is about. That's so ridiculous. I'm
actually gonna get fired up, so I'm gonna refrain from commenting.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I did get fired up reading this, mostly because I
actually do have a background in manufacturing. I worked in
inventory accounting for about four to five years, so I
do know. But the thing is, like, what am I
gonna ask you, like theoretical finance questions and what are
you can ask me machinery questions.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's not where my background is.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
If we want to talk picking and packing, if we
want to talk FEF over life vote like whatever, I
could do all that. I can talk about the costs
versus the price and profit margins, but like the fuck,
and you're not gonna come on my girly podcast and
bring your mail energy and try and debate me.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
That's the thing. This is becoming a like something that
contest and it was never about that.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, I think that's what men miss is Like, this
isn't a pissing contest, you know, no whatever. So I
simply said, like, look, I honestly don't care enough. Even
if he did beat me, supposedly, that doesn't mean anything.
I have my business job and my business degree because

(14:36):
the best part is right Sadly, he can't have my
job because it requires my accounting degree specifically, but he could.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Know more about I don't know anything stocks.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
But if I ask him a question like what's the
depreciation of land, He's gonna be like, like what would
my question even be? So I was like, I don't
even have time to think of these questions. So I
basically said, look like, sorry, your feelings were hurt.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I didn't. I hurt your.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Feelings, and I get that, and I'm sorry that that happened. Like,
I'm not gonna have you on my podcast. You're welcome
to come on if you want, but I'm not going
to debate you. I'm going to answer your questions.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's not the part of it.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
You're you're unwelcome.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
But I think saying I'm genuinely sorry for hurting your
feelings really set him off. Well, then he said, it's cool.
I don't need an apology. Context doesn't come through well
on text. I'm just trying to set up an argument
because I love arguing, and I went, you don't even
know anything. You're just gonna you know, you get the
wrong answer, You're just gonna argue again.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
You he is.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
I feel like proving exactly how we speak about men correctly.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
This this, I won this in the end, I will say,
though I called before he takes it back before when
I really just thought like I said something bullshit.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I called my parents and I was like, I gotta
own it up.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I've made family drama and this is on me. My
dad was cracking up. He's like, why is he listening?
To your podcast. My mom was like, just claim it
wasn't him. You were talking about.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Just being was Again, I want to reiterate this was
six months seven months ago when that episode came out
he had to do. I was at the airport when
Alicia like was texting about this, and I was like,
let me go find this episode, Like the fuck is
talking about.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
He doesn't want me to mention a woman named Christine
Fisher to talk about her.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
She needs to be amplified.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
So Christine Fisher is a skilled angler to which I've
learned is a fisherman, like a competitive fishermen of swords,
which that's cool. But he said we should talk about.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Her because she deserves more respect in the sport.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
We're all in for women's sports. Welcome to our podcast.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Now, he's never heard of an interview where she was
being interviewed by a woman's I was like, Oh, that's
pretty cool. But then when I but then he goes
on to and I think this is an exact quote
we should have. I'm not saying you're necessarily going to
be able to get her on the show, but it
just blows my mind away. She's very pretty and men
are pretty focused on her skills. It's like everything feminists

(17:12):
said they wanted and women are completely unaware of her.
I think that's just more because women usually aren't brought
into sports world, specifically competitive fish.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I say, I think fishing is less frequented by women,
which we could dive into why that is. And then also, yes,
women are less in general.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
We could dive into that.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
We could dive into that.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
If he requests that episode, if he's unsatisfied by my apology,
we can do a full episode on women's sports.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I would love to have him on for that. I'm
not here to debate manufacturing versus accounting field and I'm out,
you put me six feet under.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
But I then tried to make a joke and I said, wow.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
A fisherman named Fisher, or I said, Christine Fisher is
a fisher that's fun.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
To what she didn't? He goes, it's not a gimmick,
and I was like, I didn't know. I think it was.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
I just think it's ironic.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, that's is it a stage or is it real?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's great question.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
So yeah, I don't think we need to blame the
women for not knowing about Christine Fisher. I think it's
more the patriarchy who set up women to not pay
attention to sports, specifically fishing.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
But it's it's the system that's not promoting her, because
who promoting for promoting men do fishing, like, let's promote women's.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
And who built the system men? But I am sorry
for insinuating he probably voted for Trump.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
He did not.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
He voted for neither one of the main candidates. He
voted for some independent.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
I'm also sorry for getting his salary wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Salary wrong. I'm sorry about that. It's Nick last year,
who knows what he's doing this year.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
We're not going to come in. We're not going to
come so and we're sorry for hurting your feelings.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
So sorry for hing your feelings. It's so nice when
people have feelings. Even if they get hurt, at least
they're knowledging they're feeling.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
We we this is the space fan a man with feelings. Big.
We're gonna make this worse.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Man.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I'm gonna the family. I'm never gonna hear the end
of this. I have to change families anyway.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I think you're gonna have to play this every time
you walk into family events. Good, I'm gonna have to
call my dad and tell him about this. Maybe I
shouldhould talk my family more.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Family if my family listens, we have a lawyer ready,
so you can't sue me. Okay, so Meredith stand's a
lawyer and he helps us with a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
You'd be surprised.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
So well, let's not give him too much.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
If you want to kick me out of the family,
that's fine, but legally, legally I'm safe.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'll switch families. Bye. Anyway, My god, No, my parents
were very supportive of me.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
My dad couldn't stop laughing that my cousin was listening
to for the Girl.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
They support women's rights and wrongs.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
So wrongs anyway, So that's number one on my knees.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Love Love. Let's move on to your news. Okay, well,
speaking of correcting things, did you see that Linda McMahon's
letter to Harvard. Harvard responded and completely edited her letter
because she had so many grammar and like English errors.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
No, wait, who is this? Tell me everything? I don't
know anything.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Lenda McMahon is. I believe the Secretary of Education or
whatever that title is. And right now there's like potentially
a lawsuit. I think there's either a lawsuit or going
to happen between the government. Yes, yes, and so he
shall not be named is gonna pull funding. But in
the midst of all that, Lenda McMahon sent a letter

(20:40):
to Harvard basically trying to scold them for their behavior.
And Harvard Harvard released the letter with it written up
with all the like grammar and English edits, and it
is just covered. It is like so funny, like they
she was like shaving them about like not being like
prestigious enough that they don't offer anything like a basic

(21:02):
maths class. And it's like, hey, babe, did you even
did you even take one English class in your life?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Well, isn't this fun? This educational?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
The Secretary of Education?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah? Yeah, Like come on.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
That's that's just fun.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
That's that's a fun game for Harvard to do. Do
you know how hard it is to get into Harvard?
I bet you if we asked her, the Secretary of Education,
she didn't go to Harvard.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
No, no, she didn't. And also so she.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Didn't go anywhere. You know, it also doesn't have a
college degree.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know what I thought about is I was like
I would be pissed if I was in the English
department and didn't get selected to write up that letter. Yeah,
like sure the competition to be able to you know,
just say f you to that woman.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
They should have had the students do it as a project.
Yeah right, extra credit.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Hey, we're gonna edit this letter and then we'll send
it back to the government. We'll post it everywhere first,
and then the students to get extra even more credit,
they have to rewrite it properly, maybe use some different words.
I imagine her vocabulary is probably pretty small, so maybe
we could spe she.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Tried to use some big words and like incorrectly.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Rough, she had capitalization errors, she had spacing errors, was handwritten,
I don't know, it was tight, so like maybe somebody
in her office did. But still like she even had
a round sentence in there, like it.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Was it's rough. Rough.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
How many commas you I love when it's a colon
versus semi colond.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
You know. Fine, Oh that's fine, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Pickybacking off of you Trump and the governor of Maine,
if you remember, Yes, they had some words because Trump
was basically like, you better do as I say, and
this governor said see you in court, and.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Guess what she did, Janet T. Mills, she did see
him in court.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Didn't get win, she won.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Hell yeah, funding is not leaving Maine.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
We love Oh sorry, so small winds everywhere go Harvard.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well not just winds like embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
No, it's so embarrassing in the wind, it's so embarrassing.
And like the amount of time this is now President
had to like fight one of the states.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
He could have been getting educated. But obviously, God, he's
he's busy. We all know he loves the courtroom.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
That guy thirty four felonies, I think loves it, loves
the courtroom.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I mean I did see that this this government wants
to remove even citizens if they they are have criminal
records and smell Oh that fine, that's fine, let's remove
that's great, Like he's a criminal.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Bye bye, Yeah, thats amazing, let's bye bye that.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
They're also detaining people at the airport. That's fine, that's good.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, no, that's that's a lot of fun US citizens also.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
So yes, I'm like, I'm gonna need a burner phone
the next time I leave this country. No, true, heavily
again talk ship.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, no for sure, they're gonna pull up this podcast
and be like.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I said what I said, I would have to give
an apology like you did to your family to the government.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
No, we're not apology, I said.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
No, I know, but that's the vibe. It's like going around.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
It's like hey, press conference and they're like this nobody
with a podcast talk.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Here's ship on the Red. There's every episode you talked
shit in it. It's literally the last five hundred.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I can't remember a time.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I didn't because I think when we started this podcast
he was president the first.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Time, so he was he was to you, my guy,
if I remember correctly. We recorded on election night. That
was fun, fun things. Just for the record for everyone.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I don't think you if you do get to tayed,
you do not have to show them your phone or anything.
I don't know what happens after that, but you're not
required to.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know what. It's tricky. It's tricky because it's tricky.
I think the airport rules are different than your like
every day walking around this country rules.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Of course, I.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Would say, everybody look it up. Just everybody know your
rights is always what I.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Under my God, I would literally just be annoyed i'd.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Honestly, yeah, I'll talk I talked shit. What are what now?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Are you not?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well?

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Said?

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Used to be like a right we had. We used
to have all these rights, and now they don't want
us to have them.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, we're only allowed to talk badly about people doing
good things for the country.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
The governor of Maine, we could probably talk badly about her.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Oh yeah, yeah. I was like, what do you mean,
because they would think that they're doing good things? Were
really allowed to talk shit again? The enemies of the
state quote unquote.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
They know they're not doing good things. I think.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
That's what I can tell. That's what I can't tell.
I cannot tell. There's some people I know like are
the bad people, and they know that they're the bad people.
But there's someone I'm like, I I don't know because
with the Pope being elected our Chicago and Pope welcome everybody.
I will never let this sleep my body after being

(26:17):
a cradle Catholic, and I was talking about it so
many times. Have you seen that some of the I
mean the Bropel Hopkins hate this guy because he has
like five tweets in the last year and like two
of them are against this administration and some retweets shut
shut up.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Pope he hates JD.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Vans hates JD Vans. We love back to back.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Pope.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Crazy to have two popes hate you, like and I
haven't done anything Catholic in years.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
And the Pope he don't hate me.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
No, that means been that's great Catholic for six years
and two out of the three popes that we've know,
two out of two of the popes that he has
had hate him.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's crazy. That put that on his tombstone. Hated by
two popes.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
These these Republicans out there, I mean not all of them,
but there are some. They the Pope they're calling they're
calling him the Antichrist. These some Catholic Republicans are going
in the anti Christ.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You're not. You can't talk shit on the Pope.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I know I want to do that, and I'm not
a practicing Catholic.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
No say never.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Even if he was like a super conservative pope, I'd
be like, really wish you didn't treat people like that.
But like I still respect him.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I'll say overarching, I don't like the Catholic Church, but
never really come for the Poe, because like the Poe the.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Closest person to God do you guys know that? And
were you all converted? Do you not know that?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
And just in case this is all real, I'm not.
I'm not dogging on the person closest to God on
this land.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
And another difference between people who are raised Catholic and
people who converted into Catholicism.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yes, it does not.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Matter if it's honestly High Christ himself becomes the Pope.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Hey, hey, I would never could become the Pope.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
And then I go my mouth stays shut, then, you know,
because the Pope is that's crazy. The Catholic guilt you
do not have means you are not Catholic.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
To talk shit on the Pope. That's craze.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I'm like, Oh, we're really in like the bad place,
Like we really are in this like alternate universe where
these Catholics are dogging on the Pope. That's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
You're not real Catholics. I'm barely a real Catholic, but
you're not. We can't accept you into get out of hearing.
What does your congregation say.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I don't I even heard.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Anyone in our congregation be like, I won't even say it,
but talk badly about the Pope. I would be like, sir,
I don't hear me, how are you going to accept
the body and blood of Jesus Christ with that mouth?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Point good point, you are no longer you can no
longer receive communion.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Boy, you're hell my god.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Like I always thought it was crazy that people divorced
when it take communion in my church. But like these
people call the Pope anti Christ. Whoa don't even step foot.
That's a body that's going to burn in church for church.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Listen. We are not a Catholic podcast, but we love
the Pope.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Doesn't matter, especially this one.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I love this one.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Hell yeah, my Chicago Pope. I'm in hell Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
My mom was the world last night. She called me.
She's like, did you see Pope?

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Something I saw last night on TikTok was the pope's
brothers giving interviews. I never thought about the Pope having
a family.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I thought the pope was sold as family died. Why
did I think that?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
I have never thought about the Pope having a family,
and one.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Of is like a priest where you just weren't.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Your family doesn't Yeah, you just exist on this earth
somehow as a brother to one in Chicago one in Florida,
and they both gave interview news and the Chicago guy vote.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Do they vote differently ones in Florida.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
I don't know. We didn't get into that, but I
watched the Chicago one because I was like, got to
you know, boots on the ground, my baby. Yeah, and
he was like, there's false news out there that that
he's a Cubs fan. Don't worry, he's not. He's a
Sox fan. Like my mom's family was like Cubs fan,
so he has always gone against the Green and my
dad was a Cardinals fan. And people in the comments

(30:25):
are like, so funny he's not like a fan of
the Cardinals since he is like a Cardinal, and I'm like,
that's hilarious. Yeah, but I was like, yep, that guy's
a Sox fan. We love him.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, someone I think because they were like pope from
Chicago edited a Chicago Cubs hat onto the pope's head
to which that's what sparked that interview because my mom
called because we're.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
A Chicago white Sox house.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, she was like, and guess what, the Pope's south side, baby,
fuck race the pope is south Side.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
That's crazy. You know easy, like in could be my brother,
we're both we both were for the same team.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Because that's a dividing thing in Chicago that could make
your break faily.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
God, yeah, I always ask people because I'm a Cardinals fan,
so I need somebody who's a Sox fan, like I
can't have a Cubs fan.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Does the Pope have to move to Italy?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Now I live in Italy?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
How's he going to get the game? Can we stream
them for him?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I bet he can? You know what ESPN?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I bet the Vatican's decked out in gold? They got Yeah,
yeah they can.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
They can sell something to afford it. I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, I'm sure it's decked in gold.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
But like he can just like log in with his
family's account, Like I'll give him my account if he.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Realizes, say, if he wants to password chair, I'm open.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I'll happily password chair.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
The pope has a family there, has a mom and
a dad and a brother.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
How old is this? How old is the news?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
He's seventy I believe like sixty nine ors.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
So maybe he doesn't currently have the live mother or father.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
His father is not alive, I don't his mom is
not alive. I don't believed that. Fine, I don't know
anything about dad. The photo I saw them when they
were younger is just mom and brothers outside of like
the Capital church they grew up going to.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
But crazy, like what if you're you know, you're in Chicago.
You go to the bar, someone's.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Like hey, rolls up.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
No no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Even better, you get to chatting with the person next
to you and he's like, yeah, my brother just got
a cool new job. And you're like, what's your brother
do and he's like he's the.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Pope, Alicia.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
The way I would pass out and be like, your
tab is on me, now tell me about.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Listen to this. See I think this was the Chicago
brother Watch conclave this weekend, to see what would happen.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
He's rooting for his he's having a hunger.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Game, was doing like the word ale when the announcement
came out, and then they say his name and he
knew because his name's his like government name is Robert. No, no,
his original name is like Robert, I believe, So they
said something like Robert and he immediately knew. He was
like it has to be my brother, Like there's no way,
but they really didn't think it would be him because
he's American, he's young. I'm gonna put that in your quotes.

(33:03):
But for the like Severn, he's young, he's young.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
He could, he could.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
He could be the longest standing pope. Honestly, he committed
to like one hundred. He could be a pope for
thirty years.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I don't know. I don't know any of the pope history,
but I love this guy who.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Was Okay, it was Pope Francis that just passed. Yeah,
the pope before that was around for a while and
he was decredibly old.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
No, no, no, no, that one no, no, that guy
stepped down the one before Francis. Oh, he was like,
I don't want to do this anymore. It's the first
time we've ever had two popes alive at the same time.
That guy died.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Okay, Pope benedictt No, Pope John Paul remember that guy?
Yeah before Okay, yes, Oh, Pope John Paul was around
for a while.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yes, he was a really years old.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
He was around for almost thirty years.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
He was around for he was both alive.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Crazy, Yeah, I remember growing up with Pope John Paul.
And then we had Pope Benedict and he for a
long time, but I don't remember him honestly.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
He he quit though, he was like, I don't want
to do this, and nobody's ever quit pope so like, and.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Then Pope Francis was beloved. I loved Pope Francis.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
So I'm decited for Pope Leo the God.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I don't know it's an X V I or xbyb ivy,
that's uh.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Pope Leo the fourteenth.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Hey, Robert, Pope Robert, you know what, I'm so on
board with this.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
If the Pope's brother ever wants to come on our podcast,
we would love to talk about Catholicism with you.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
One last thing about the Pope in this administration, because
this will round out this whole discussion. Is somebody who
was like, listen, if you're willing to call from him,
you know, Pope like Leo, you understand preferred names, Like
that's not his government names, you understand preferred names.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's I'm still I'm I'm like, you got still blown.
People are talking shit about the.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Oh of All I mean over on Twitter, so like
what can you say?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Sin?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
The in cells are outs and abouts those whoever talks
you know, how we talk about shitty men can either
be put into the category of losers or weirdos.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
If you're talking shit on the Pope, you're a weirdo
and you better stay ten.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
You're both you're bo You better no, because a loser.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Like a Nick vayal I would still sit down with him.
I would just hate him, and I would like, you
would burn my blood, right he ever asked me on
his podcast, I'm coming to destroy of course the weirdos.
I want nothing to do with that. Fucking You're gonna
talk shit on the Pope. Don't come near me because
I put in a lot of work and if if
it comes to it, I better be going to heaven.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
And so I can't associate with you.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Okay, I promise this is the last thing about the Pope.
Somebody was like, non, he should do he should he
should run for presidentcy because.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
No, literally, you're gonna vote against the Pope. You're not
a real Catholic. You know, even the Jews and Muslims
would totally vote for the Pope.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I know, like me, Oh my god, can you imagine
a church being like you can't you have to vote
against the pope because he's not like Maga enough.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
You know, I've never had like like Catholic things in
my room like some people have, like the Sign of
the Cross and their home.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I never.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I never kept in my room. I think my mom
had I don't know, across somewhere. I would frame and
hang up a picture of this pope.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, I would do it.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I could never.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I could never do anything bad in my house again,
because then god, no, I can't.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Here's the thing. You can't hear the thing. You can't
be more hated than j D bands.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
So like, you know, two popes, crazy, two popes. That's
that's a.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Bad day dying. But that's the Pope.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Okay, let me give you some more news. This was hilarious.
So the Met Gala just happened on Monday.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Oh my god, loved it, loved it, loved it.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Loved it.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
But I would like to say everyone was very like,
what's everyone going to wear? I was on New York
met Gala and here's what the discussion was.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, the Met Gala is happening, but also the New
York Knicks I believe it was.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
The Knicks are in the NBA playoffs. Right.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, so two big things happening. And here's where the
question came into debate. Timothy Shallow may no New Yorker,
loves the Knicks, has bonded games, he freaks out, he
loves it, is dating Kylie Jenner, who is a staple
at the met gala. So everyone was like, what is
Timothy gonna do? And I was like, no, literally, what

(37:35):
is Timothy gunner?

Speaker 3 (37:36):
That's a really hard decision. I get that because they
also haven't had the Red Carpet debut, so I understand
if they had been planning this for months to make
that then debut.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
He's like, listen, babe, the Knicks, the Knicks game, and
you can't You can't watch the Knicks on your phone
at the metal Yeah it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
You can clearly take a Sophie in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
No, terrible.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
So I was tuning in for woballl Timothy Shallamy do
he He did end up watching the NIXT game.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
But the best part is the best part is listen,
if my team is.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
In the NBA, WNBA, whatever is in the playoffs, Yeah,
they're gonna win, and oh my god, it's a big deal.
I am making sure it's on the big screen. I'm focused.
I'm watching everything. That's another reason. Even if we were
just outs and bouts now at the met Gala, I
don't want to watch it at my phone.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
I need something. He watched it with a bunch of
people around an iPad.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I thought he was at a game. He watched it
on an iPad.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
I think he watched it. There was a video of
him watching it on an iPad.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Oh is that my guy?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Either way, he's very rich. He should not be watching
any game on it.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
I did you could buy a like TV for the goal, well,
a portable like projector at that rate.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Literally, and Kylie did go to the met Gala, So
he went babe.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
He returned my met Gala clothes.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
You can't return at its custom but he.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Keep him for a different day. It looks like because
I'm going to the necks. And then I was like,
do you think she'd be mad or you think she
gets it? Because Timothy listen, this taught this taught all
of us that the end of the day, he's going
to pick the knicks over Kylie.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
And that's okay. But I think that she was probably
chill in this relationship. That's his vibe. Where.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, he's a New Yorker, he's a No Knicks fan.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
I don't think he would be with her if she
would like to make a stink over him doing something
that is a once in a lifetime thing.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I mean, the fact that this was a discussion shows
you how how much New York was counting on Timothy Shallime.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
No, I loved that.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Isn't that amazing?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yes, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Do you want me to sep with I have more sports,
but women's sports draft?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yes, please, I got drama.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Listen, listen, it's crazy. Okay, let me tell you, Let
me tell you. Where do Where do I start? Okay,
SOS has begun. I started watching and then I was like,
these games don't like to count for anything, so I'm
just watching.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I have a lot of time with preseason.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, I've started only watching certain games to see how
the rookies like move into the team.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Like if I don't know the rookies, I don't really wait.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I have a question too. So yeah, because last episode
we talked about how they're you kind of like, are
trying out for the team. I'll say, like, even if
you were drafted, you're not guaranteed on the roster. So
right now, are they in their locked roster? Are they
still waiting about the roster?

Speaker 2 (40:28):
We're still waiting. The season does not start until May's teens.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
It's just before the season starts, like when that season starts.
Stats when they lock it and they tra have.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Lots of times.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh, players are still getting waived and being picked up
by other teams. But it's twelve roster spots per team,
and a lot of teams if you have, like a veteran,
you can get like okay, if I'm on I don't
know the this actually happened. So a player on the
LA sparks right, she was traded to Dallas, but in

(40:59):
her contract she goes, I'm guaranteed a roster spot, so
she can't be cut. So a lot of a lot
of good players, like you know, the veterans aren't gonna
get cut. So it makes it even more cutthroat for
these rookies, yeah, because they're good, but they're not pearing.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
It down to less and less spots, yeah to compete for.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
So just on that note, one of my favorite rookies
from this yere Cheyenne Sellers, I want to give her
a shout out specifically, too, because the WNBA has disrespected
this woman multiple times and I'm so good at the draft.
She got interviewed by two people hired by the w NBA.
They said her the wrong name. They didn't call her Cheyenne.

(41:37):
They called her like Aliyah or something out run but
then Chyenne the other There were two girls, two interviewers.
The other girl shook her head and was like no,
and the first girl was like, oh, sorry, wrong card, Meredith.
If we were interviewing anyone, we're doing faces and names,
we're doing pictures. We have to Yeah, I'm not gonna look,
I'm not gonna rely on my cards. If they get
messed up to not know your name, that's embarrassing. But

(42:00):
they had her introduce herself, so she goes, I'm Chyenne
Cellars embarrassing. And then the second girl didn't even call
her Cheyenne. They called her a different s name when
they asked her a question, so disrespect. She was supposed
to go in the first round. She didn't get picked
up until the second round. Like deep, wait, but that's.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Even crazier, Like she is projected to go to the
first round and you don't know her name.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
She was invited to the draft, so she had a
full table with her.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
You didn't do your research and didn't take that seriously.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
That's crazy, right, So she was supposed to go first round.
She didn't go into the second round. I was really
for her because I was like, what the fuck? She
got drafted to the Valkyries, which is a brand new
fucking team. They have zero players basically, and they get
she got waved by them, and I was.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Like, you're not.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's not that she doesn't even mesh with the players.
You barely have any players. Why are you waving her
before she even played a preseason game?

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
So that the coach put out a statement was like
she did everything right, she's just not right for this team.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
And people were like, but you didn't even play a
game with her. You just saw her shoot around in practice.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
That's like saying it's oh, it's not you, it's me. What.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
But she did get picked up by the Atlanta Dream
So I think we all need to become Dream fans.
Let's roote for Chyenne Cellars. She's really good. She's a
six to two point guard.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
That's that makes me so fad that like shows just
back to back to back disrespect.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Another person that got waved. Her name's Bree Hall. She's
a rookie. She did get waived after a preseason game though,
which I think is more fair. Let them play and
we can talk about Indiana's team in a little bit
because it's kind of stacked. But she is now making
tiktoks of her like waiting around being like waiting for
another team to call.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Which because I got into a like sports TikToker family
because they were dealing with that, like, and it's really
fun to see, like it was in the NFL. But like,
it's really interesting to see the behind the scenes of
a but you, like, you don't normally get to see
that stuff, Like that's the really nice thing about social
media is you get a peek behind the curtain into

(44:05):
people's lives and showcasing like, hey, other people are going
like kind of the expected path, Like I'm walking a
different path and that's unique and it's really fun to
showcase those type of stories.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
But I'm rooting for Bree Hall.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
She was at South Carolina, so she won a national championship.
I think I'm pretty sure she was on that team.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
So that's great. But Okay, so I did watch some
preseasons game.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
I watched the Indiana Fever game, okay, which is Kaylen
Clark's team, and listen, Kaylen Clark's great.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
She's a great athlete, truly amazing. Though.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
When I was watching the game, there was this one
player who got picked up from the Phoenix Mercury and
is now on the Indiana Fever. And the way she
played the game, I've never seen this woman play before,
and I was like, there's something that's rubbing me the
wrong way. I couldn't explain it. I was just like
the way she got into two different fights with two
different people back to back, the way she like attacked

(44:58):
these people after because the fubble was like she got fouled,
But the way she stood up and puffed her chest
out after, I was kind of like, I don't know, man,
there was something that rubbed me the wrong way. Her
name is Sophie Cunningham, and so I was like, weird.
So I look her up on Instagram and she's just
like this blonde woman, but something is rubbing me the

(45:19):
wrong way. Well, then TikTok informs me her nickname is
Maga Barbie and the two players she got in fights
with were black, not that that matters, but that matters maybe,
so I don't God, And I understand it's hard because like,
okay that you're.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Like teammate, Like what do you do.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Your professionally have to work with this person? Yeah, I
can't in good conscious like route for this player because
even before I knew all this, she like really rubbed
me the wrong way.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Damn my hatere I think.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
That's so disappointing. I just why do people have to
be terrible? You know, literally lot of effort to be
a terrible person.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Literally the listen, this is talk, this is WNBA talk ready.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
And allegedly this is all alleged. The little don't sue me.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Kaylen Clark gained a lot of fans, rightfully so, but
she was kind of pinned against Angel Reese and apologies,
which people the racists loved because they hate Angel Reese.
Right they were calling her a villain. It was so terrible,
it's not fair, and Kayla Clark didn't really come out
and say much about it until recently. And I mean

(46:34):
she always said like I have no beef with Angel,
but and you're not responsible for your fan base. I
think we've talked about this but I think like in
a way in where we are in society in America,
I think it says a lot when players do speak up,
specifically white players who have a privilege, which is where
like I think Paige Becker's is just.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I saw a she made recently because she was like,
I acknowledge I have way more privileged opportunities, and I
would be foolish to think that that didn't play into
a lot of my successes because like brains want to
work with me, and there is a racial bias behind
this and just the opportunities I get because of the
way I look, And I love that people when people
like acknowledge the leg up, like it doesn't make you

(47:18):
a worse person or like take anything away from your
success or how hard you have worked. It's just an
acknowledgment that you've got to start ten steps ahead of
somebody else.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
But just to give her her flower, she doesn't just
like speak on it, she actually does stuff about it.
Her little brother is black, her dad remarried a black woman,
and now she's a half black brother.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
She has four years.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Always said, like, when do you stop seeing my little
brother as cute and start seeing him as a threat.
She fully supported the Black Lives Matter movement in twenty
twenty as an eighteen year old, and then when she
was nineteen, she won an EPSY and dedicated her whole
speech to how she plays a game that was built
off the backs of black women and how she named
bunch like for a nineteen year old to recognize that

(48:03):
and go on. And she still pours all her money
into community. She gives a lot of money back to
lower income areas so that they have more opportunities. She's
constantly putting her money where her mouth is, and I
gotta give it to her.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
She she will not stop.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
She I don't know if it's obviously. I think she
really believes it. But then also to like so clearly
speak on it in media. I think it's a talent
in itself. So flowers where it's necessary on page. She
did play her first Dallas game. She's started cheers. I
think a lot of people are being harsh on her.

(48:37):
It was a rough game. Listen, she went from playing
with eighteen two year olds to now playing with full
grown women.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Okay, you gotta been in this league for years two years.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Also, Paige is guinny. That girl is tiny tiny. She yeah,
she's gonna get hit on a few screens, and she
got the wind knocked out of her on one play
she fully bent over Meredith.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
She was a this is kind of might be a
little meat of me to say, but I do enjoy
so like the transition of people who go from like
college to professionals to be like, listen, you used to
be everything in your league, but like, welcome to the
big leagues here, babe, like that, this is for real here.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
They always say, and that you have your welcome to
the w moment, right, And Paige she said she was like, man,
I got hit and the wind was just knocked out,
and everyone's now like she's not as good as Kayln Clark.
I hate the comparison of those two.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
But here's the thing. Kaylin got rocked by fucking screens too. Yeah,
I play different.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
But she's just as skinny as Pages. But she Kaylen
Clark hadn't been an off season and she got jacked
in her yeah, because she was like, I got hit Page,
give Page an off season, man.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
That's the thing. Also, women's sports get less time in
between their seasons to be able to focus on building
your muscles up. And like dedicated a month ago.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yes she's already now playing.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Yeah, because when you're a professional athlete and getting paid
for it, you have the time and resources too. And
not that she didn't have that, Like she had the
bunny probably to like pay a professional trainer, but you
have a school doing it for you. But that's not
the same as having dedicated one on one people to
train you every day and like watch your nutrition and
like hire a chef for you. That's what you get

(50:25):
to do when you're in the pros and like really
dedicated on your body because that is your working vessel.
But she doesn't have the time to do that. She's
gonna do that in the off season next year. That's
the bad thing about the women's sports timing.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Give her listen, she was tiny out there, we all
saw it, but give her a minute.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
She still still scored like eight to ten points she
had if you assist, which is really good.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Great, y'all.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Also, stop pissing the off comparing Kayla Clark and page backers.
They play a very different game.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Wait, let's just stop comparing women like so different, Like
why do we need to like judge people against somebody
else's benchmarks? Like, why not judge them against their.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Own I mean, on on judging them. Though, Page will
never have as many points as Caitlin. Page is a playmaker.
She's gonna get her team open and get them the
ball her strength, and she's gonna defend. She's gonna block shot,
she's gonna get large. That's not where Caitlyn's strengths lie.
He's gonna hit the logo three twelve times in a row.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Page is gonna make her like, you're cracking me up.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
You were just like on I could say, you're like anyway,
I'll shut up, but that was no.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Don't I love it? You're you're like, you're so into it,
and I just don't think people respect how much you
love this even if it's not there, Like I don't
watch women's basketball like the amount you do, but I
love hearing about it because you're so passionate about it.
In tuned in. Yeah, never stop you.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
If I had any if I could wish any talent
like a genie was like when I was a child,
I would have wish to be better at basketball.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
We talked. I just sucked.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
I just sucked.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
And it wasn't even if you were.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Like, oh, you're also short.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
I was fucked from the beginning, but like I always
loved it. The day got cut from my high school.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Team, that was like the sast.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
That's villain origin story. Yeah, that's when I become funny, you.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Know, Rolf. I needed a personality then.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
But on page two, doing a lot for mental health,
I found this kind of sad. We're gonna get a little sads,
but it's beautiful, yea. So she opened up.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
She was in Time magazine.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
She opened up about how this year, this fast college year,
she worked very heavily with a sports psychologist.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
A lot came from the comparison to other players cough
cough Kaitlin Clark.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
That the media portrayed.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
And she said, like after that Final four loss she
had last year, she could not she like couldn't break through,
Like I guess you just started sobbing one day and
was like I just want to win.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
I just wanted to win.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
So the day before the Natty, she called her her
psychologist in tears, being like to do this. The anxiety
really got to her. But now she's advocating, like it
is hard. You just have to comparison is the what
does she say comparison. Yeah, so she's like really working
through it, but it's not easy, especially these.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Kids don't even have fully frontal, fully form.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Front lobes I follow. I don't know if you've ever
heard of her. Her name's Victoria Garrick Brown. That's her
like marry name, and she played volleyball at USC and
started a she's probably two or three years younger than us.
Started a nonprofit for mental health, especially in college athletes,
called The Hidden, Hidden Opponent. And she's a really big

(53:47):
advocate of mental health anyways, and just some being like
really real. She has a podcast called Real Pod. She
doesn't filter her photos like she often shows her body
in resting forms and then like post forms so you
can see the difference. But she's really big and mental
health with sports, and it's I we never played college sports.
I can only imagine high school. Yeah, but it's it's

(54:08):
so like powerful to watch her in that space. Like
she has a collab with the Didas, like it's finally
getting really good recognition. But I just you saying that
about page makes me think about that influencer because I
just see her on her she like goes and speaks
to a lot of colleges and different sports teams and
like speaks about mental health, and I just like love
that people are talking about it. I mean, like it's

(54:30):
becoming normalized just in normal society. So I'm happy it's
like infiltrating into sports too, because I can't imagine the
amount of pressure on your shoulders to keep up with
everything in like a normal season. But then you go
to one of the biggest stages of your career and
all you want to win. It is like for yourself,
but then you have your teammates and you have your
entire school who's rooting for you have to have a

(54:51):
fan watching. Yeah, the spotlight on women's sports is amazing,
but the pressure that adds to it is crazy. Because
this got really big overnight, Like I feel like it
went from A one to eighty from like they're playing
in all their colleges and it's not getting much airtime too.
I remember in COVID when you know, the locker room
discussion started, and then like last year, not like in

(55:15):
twenty twenty four, like the women's national championship was bigger
than the men's and again, yeah, that like that is
so much to deal with, Like over the course, these
are four years.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
These are college kids.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I was such a stupid idiot in college. Like I
can't imagine having to like be in such adult spaces
and like being holding your emotions and like performing on
top of that no matter how you're feeling. Like I
can't even do that at almost thirty with my job,
Like did I just work a stupid ninety five?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Like and we're no formed adults and we're still like stop,
like think about it. At twenty two, I couldn't even
like go to to class without breaking down.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Oh my god, I was crying all the time.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
But like also can't just drink their sorrows away because
they're professional.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
That's the thing. Like they don't have the same like
letting off, say, like day were in lifestyle like.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Shitting on children and you're so weird about.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
It, yes, oh my god? And did you seek because
of like gambling with like college sports people Kansas had
to put out a nown like a public statement to
stop getting in college athletes dms and like being upset
with them. Like people are like being like I can't
believe you lost that game. You lost me so much money,
and I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa. I get professional athletes.
I still don't think you should DM professional athletes those

(56:34):
type of comments. But these are kids, I don't care.
Is still a child in.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
My parents alone, still on their parents' insurance, They cannot
rent a car, they cannot get a hotel room on
their own.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Leave them alone, Leave the kids alone, Leave them alone.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Like people so mean, But like I'm amazing that she's
talking out, like.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Speaking about it truly and like she's doing the game.
That absolutely.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Okay, two more women's basketball things, but these are these
aren't as heavy.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Asia Wilson.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
She plays on the Aces. She's amazing, she's great.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Are you gonna talk about her commercial? Amazing?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
She has so she has a shoe brand, right and
she's making a commercial and it's directed by Malia Obama.
And it was such a good commercial.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
It was so good. I saw it on TikTok and
I watched it three times the first time I watched
it because like it gave me the like storytelling, like amazing.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
It gave me chills and a partner with an Obama
and these times round of applause. Asia Wilson, you're fighting
the good fight. I will be an ACES fan as
long as you're on it.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I also saw a creator say, like before I knew
it was Malie Obama, I think the creator is the
one who told me I don't know who this was.
I hate that. I never remember whose videos I saw,
but she was like, you know, a black person like
directed this because a white person could never have this
point of view. This is why representation really matters, and
having people behind the scenes who actually understand the voices
and the like story you're trying to tell, because when

(58:04):
you don't do it correctly, you get like the Pepsi
Kendall Jenner commercial, like you have to know the story
you're telling, and you really need people who have shared
life experiences. And then I kept seeing more and more
videos about that in Malie Obama, like being the director,
and some of it even being inspired by her own life,
like that grandma in the church, like that was inspired

(58:25):
by her grandma.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Oh it was so good, Asia Willison, I'm a fan
of Oh my God, so good. And last thing is
I found out that there's another love story in the
WNBA that I'm assessed with.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
You need to get another season. We have more characters
add to our story.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
So Gabby Williams and this is a French name, so
don't at me Marine Johannes. I know, Johanns is how
you said the last name? I think the first time
is Marine. But they played together over in France and
now they both playing the w NBA. Everyone's saying they're engaged.
There's no confirmation as far as I can tell, but

(59:07):
they are very cute. It's giving private, but not a secret.
But when they played on the French team together, the I.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Are they on the same team in the different Okay,
so we still have the life kept apart vibe.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Huh. So Marie and Johannes is on the Liberty Okay,
let me see. Gabby Williams is on. She's an American
French basketball player. Oh, she went to University of Connecticut.
That's very fun.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Okay, Okay, a Yukon grad.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
You know, we love We've got Seattle storm.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Different time zones, I mean.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
That is as far apart as you can get with
having to do a time zone. That's okay, but we
needed a slightly different story. That makes it more complicated.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
You're right, So and they they she does play on
the French team.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Her girlfriend wife fiance, who knows being French so they
do get to play together sometimes, but not this summer.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I gotta go to a Liberty Storm game buy the tics.
So yeah, that's very fine. But I saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Like I said, I don't have a lot of information
because I just found them, and like I said, it's
giving private, not a secret, and a lot of the
announcer stuff it's in French because like they they're French.
So yeah, it's hard, but that's normal unravel.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
I'm sure we can take creative liberties true.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
True.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
We can't be one hundred accurate. It's like the Crown
we moment.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
I think we will have to change enough so then
we can't get sued for using their name, image and likeness.
So like, of course it's it's inspired truth.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
True events obviously. But that's all my news. Do you
have anymore?

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
I love that I do actually have. I want to
know your thoughts. On Bravo announcing four new shows that
are coming into production. Here, we're gonna have another Valley
show with the old shows of Sunset Crew.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
That's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
We're gonna have a new Real Housewives wife swap, and
I forget the other one was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
But I remember. Here's what I have to say. Bravo,
though I am excited asterisk. Why why have new shows
when you can't even manage summer house.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Martha's Vineyard, that's a good question. Why not bring that back?
That's a great show?

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Easy? Are you satiful?

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
You already have your cast. We already know that it's
a great show. We were obsessed. What what are you doing?
And you know those housewives of Rhode Island are all
gonna be white.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I heard somebody from The Bachelor might be on it, Ashley, I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Stop, stall, stop, She's not rich enough to be a housewife.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
We're even have some rich ass people. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
I'm excited for another housewife. I will never be mad
about another franchise of housewives because I have hope with
Salt Lake City, Like there's opportunity to like make a
splash with a new franchise. Like I'll give them room
to be great. But it is a tough it's a
tough business.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Like I bring up a good point, what come on
Martha's Vineyard?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Yeah, I'm just saying the wife swap show it's not
gonna be my vibe. I will never watch that. I'm
gonna be so honest.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
I used to love her or Wife, Swap.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Wife, and then The Valley with the Shas crew. I
will be watching that, yeause I loved Shands of Shaws
of Sunset. I didn't watch it at the end, but
I love It's Resa, NJ and GG are back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
MJ my girl. She got so screwed on the Traders.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
So very very intrigued by that. And then okay, they
announced the shows that they're gonna be renewing and Roney
was not on it, so they're kind of being put
on ice. They like want to bring them back, but
they need to like reconfigure things, like Bravo said, like
an insider something.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I mean everyone's saying, Lindsay Hubbard, get her on home.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
That's what I'm wondering. If they're like pausing it to
try to figure out what to do with some of
the cast and if they can bring in newbies to
like make the refresh work or or what. But give
me Lindsay Amanda Page.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Is a housewife. I would love it. Okay, any more news.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
That's all I had.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Amazing. Okay, I read I read.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
She's I did baby? Would you read?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I didn't finish the Wellness book. I'll get that. Stuck
to that I just needed to know if I need
to know if I still loved reading or not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Yeah, listen, I told the only book I want to
read is one Meredith and I are writing on this
podcast live.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
That being said, I was like, let me do research.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
So there's this book I found at I made myself
go one a walk.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I went to a bookstore and I found.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
The book, and I was like, I love that. This
is probably gonna be a bad book. Let me rent
it on my Kindle or buy it or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
So I did. I used my library card to rent it.
And it was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Called Cleet Cute like Get Cute, but with the cleet.
And it was about two women on the same soccer team.
Let's get inspiration.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
This is some research and development for our book.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
It was pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Here here's where I think they went wrong. The two
soccer players were not friends beforehand.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
They met when they were on the same team.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I think our I love a friend to lovers, so
like that whatever. It Also, the younger player had idolized
the older player.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Weird, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
I didn't like that, so we won't be doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
And then they okay, the younger player clearly had EIGHTYHD.
So her chapters were written like that, like someone with
ADHD and then the other character if we don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
This until literally the end.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
But as I was reading the other characters chapters, I
was like, she has autism, like live the whole time.
I was like, everything she's describing like this is this
is autism. And then at the end, when she was
researching ADHD on TikTok, she came across autism and she goes,
I'll get back to that because that sounds like something
I'll need.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
And whoa this characters like researching things on TikTok in
this book.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Yes, I mean, what do we do?

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
I mean I guess I don't know. Interesting, okay, whatever,
So it was pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
I think we could do better.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Here's what I did, like where I think we need
to take more creative liberties. Okay, okay, hear me out.
So basically in this cleet cute book, the way they
kind of get together is like the younger player is
flirting with the older player, the ADHD is flirting with
the autism.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Oh I thought the ADHD person was the person with autism.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
No, no, no, one of the Okay, okay, wait.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Until illnesses walk into a bar.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Okay, no, those are not mental illnesses first off, but wait,
wait autism's older ADHD's younger, Yes, starting to describe him
like that, but like, I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Don't have forgot their names.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Let's older older older ADHD. I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
So older is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
The one that's been on the team for a long time.
Young idolizes older, So now they're on the same team.
They both get to their city early, so they're only
hanging out with each other, and the older one, who's
been on the team for a while is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Like, no, no, it's yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Because she younger idolizes right, Younger, big flirt, big personality,
Older a little more quiet, little more reserved. Younger ones
starts flirting with the older one, and the older one
is kind of like, hey, I'm not a relationship person.
I'm not looking to date a teammate, like I don't
want to. So the younger one is like, that's fine,

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I respect that, and so she flirts with someone else
in front of older which is fine whatever, But then
older is like, why am I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Kind of jealous?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Which I was like, I'm not mad about that because
in our friends to lovers, right, they could go to
college together. And let's just say our older, right, our
older flirts with younger, but younger is like not having it,
So our older is like, to not mess up our friendship.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I'm gonna flirt with someone else. And that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
I like, the jealous thing being the trigger for like
I have feelings. I'm in for that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
And then they can secretly date for a little bit
and go through their injuries separately, and then they can
be private.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
But not a secret.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Yes, yes, yeah, So I think we adapt that in
our creative liberties because I did like that, but it
was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
They became like friends with benefits and then it was fine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I don't know, it was whatever, but Matt, then I
was like, let me read another book.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
But I kind of liked them both being athletes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
I hate a book where it's like the guards the
athlete and the girls is and the thing ons come on, Yeah,
her hockey player and an ice skater, come on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
I known.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
So I found this hockey book called Face Off. But
they're both professional hockey players. But she's the first woman
in the NHL, which I was like, I'm kind of
in on that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Wait, what's the name of that face off, face off. Wait,
I love this, so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
I was like, I kind of like it, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I will say it was described though as rivals to lovers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
They were never rivals.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
They okay, they are also though thirty, which I did.
I also liked that we're.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Older, okay, professional athletes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
They had to go through college and other thirty hockey.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Hockey is a little bit later too, because you don't
go straight to college.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Yeah, and not only that, but you play at like
a lower level and then get pulled up to the NHL.
In the NHL, which I thought was interesting. So I
did like that aspect.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Are they on the same team or they different on
the same team?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
So that's okay?

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
He he is, she has kind of a gender neutral name,
so he as the captain, is tasked to show her around, right,
and so when he shows when he shows up, he's like,
what are you doing here, sweetheart? And she's like, bitch,
I'm your new player. The fuck wo I love this
she I wish she would have just hated him a

(01:09:16):
little more.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
I hate him. It's like we're rivals lovers, but she's like,
but look at his lips. Yeah, his chiseled MUCKs. And
I'm like no, you're supposed to hate him a.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Little, like you've been acknowledge he's hot and you needn't
come from the lens of he's hot, and so he
knows it, and so like that pisses me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
He's annoying. Yeah, like you actually have to hate him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
And it made me mad that he too was like, God,
she's gonna be like such a fucking pain in my ass.
But then he was like, but I'd loved a fuck her,
and I was like, no, no, hate each other a little,
but obviously they become friends with benefits. I haven't gotten
the part yet where they fall in love, but we
all know that's coming. I will say though some of
the first off in this book, some of the dialogue

(01:09:57):
is not thirty year old dialogue.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
I was like, why are we saying this?

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
It's like cheesy and like like high school.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Their banter was a little effort. I was like, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I think maybe now I'm used to it, but I
still sometimes I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
The second I get second embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Though in our book, we have to have better banter
for sure, I know which will be the hard part.
But then the steamy scenes are so crazy the ship
they said to each other. I was like, I'm underaged.
I shouldn't be hearing this, Meredith, I was reading.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Yeah, I mean it was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
But I here's the thing, though, if you're going to
talk during a steamy scene in a book, right, if
you're going to write it out, it can't be like ooh,
you know, like for me to go like I would
never cross my mind to even say like, people can't
be having this type of sex.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
That was crazy what they were saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
I was like, yo, woof And I read it himount
of Esteem, and I'm yeah, this was crazy. Oh my god,
she can't want that is what I kept saying. I
was like, there's no way else enjoying it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
I think all books have kind of ruined sex for
girls a little bit because guys aren't on the same
page about talking during sex, and so then like the
reality versus the book sex are vastly different now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
No truly, And also stop making these men perfect. I
understand that's want, but like I reading it, I'm like,
you're gonna tell me he's a total you know, ass hat.
The first time they meet and he's so rich and
he knows he looks good. And he fucks half the
city and he's such a douchebag. But also he's like
the best uncle in the world, and he gives all
of his money to charity, and he knows exactly how

(01:11:42):
to treat a woman in bed, and he is the
biggest dick you've ever seen. I'm like, there's no way
all those things like tim.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Kohe Yeah, Like the bad thing is that he's kind
of a dick, but like, let's all be honest. That
kind of turns everybody on a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
He's also like so supportive of women in sports. Come on,
he has to have a fucking flaws something.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
If you're gonna describe him as such a douchebag.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Let him especially especially in like enemies to lover type.
I'm like, he actually needs to be an annoying person,
like I think about like Nathan Scott and Haley, Like
Nathan is a dish to her. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Yeah, and that's what I wanted, because they're kind of
like rivals to lovers in a weird way, even though
they didn't like compete against each other, but there was, but.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
They were on opposite sides. Yeah, like Hailey, only they
tutored him because of like to like let her best
friend off the hook.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
This was He immediately went from being like, there's no
way you play hockey to being like, don't let me
tell you again that you're the best player on our
team in like the same day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
And I was like, no, no, no, you're no.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
You have to underestimate her and say she's not gonna
help you and be a bad teammate and like this
is weird, and you're gonna like check her VI practice.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Yeah, And I was like this, whatever, So now they're
just banging each other's brains out all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
But some of the stuff I was like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
I was like, and it wasn't even like you know
when you read some smut you you're like, oh, I'm
sweating a little.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
It was so crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
I was like, logistically, that's insane, really how.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
There's no what?

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
I was in shock. I think I'm a prude reading
this book. I was like, I must be I must
be a born again virgin because this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Wait, that's so funny the shit she said.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
People don't even say that to their husbands, let alone
a fucking stranger.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
I was like, yo, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
So anyway, that's what I'm reading now. I'll finish it
probably this weekend. I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
I gotta know what happens, So I'm hoping this is
what I'm hoping for. I'm hoping one of them gets injured.
I love an injury. I love a sports injury.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Because then like one of them gets mad and like
they'll be coming to the other. We damn shit. Yep,
there has to be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
There has yet to be conflict since they've started hooking up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Which I hate whenever. I like a conflict is towards
the end of the book because I really enjoy the
like coming back together after a conflict, and I need
the conflict to like create a real chasm between them
for me to enjoy the like makeup.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Let me say here, if the conflict is that they
both don't know how to tell the other they have
feelings for each other, I'm gonna literally like.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Somebody on the team finds out and like now it's
like weird.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
I don't want that, no, somewhat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
I if we're gonna be this crazy in bed, you
better give me a crazy drama to go with it.
Think One Tree Hill. There're ready to be car crashes.
There better be amnesia. They're better be questioned. If your
baby survived that car crash. We better have a secret
dad somewhere. Man, give me the drama. Don't just everything's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Teaches and cream. Oh no, she flirts with a.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Different boy, and now I'm jealous and I'll never admit
my feelings.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Try again.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
I don't want some simple insecurity. I want like my Johnny,
you can't know my feeling is like ruined my life,
and I'm scared to tell you because I have this
whole crazy family shit going on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
I want.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I want like something big.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Something uninjured.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
I think would be one of them being traded to
another team.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Ooh, then they gotta go and see each other and
then a teammate injures your significant other.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
That would be kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
So but like the soccer book, there wasn't really any
crazy drama, So I like it wasn't you know, So
I was like, whether they get hurt or not, Like,
I think this is a fine miscommunication trope.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Don't do that here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
If you're gonna be this fucking spicy about it, there
better be a big blow up come in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
I'm already fifty percent of the way through and there's
a blow.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Up something I needed at like sixty to seventy percent,
because I need the blow up to last for a
few chapters, like I need real contests.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Seeing I think in our book them both getting injured,
that's going to cause a lot of animal like not animosity,
but you're just angrier, and so there's gonna be a
lot of fights. I feel like and ask teammates, I
think we gotta have some fights as teammates. I think
we could add in a little jealousy of like your
stuff working with another girl.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Agree, and then you have the I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Want to be public, but I don't. We could have
that drama. I'm just saying there's another drama we could
go in for our come in for our movie, book,
TV show. I think loosely based off women do you said?

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
I don't know any other?

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
No, I agree. You sent me a voice memo this
week saying book, and I realized we should do a
book because then we can do the like movie or
TV show rights on top of it, and we can
double dip on our earnings here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Yeah, and I think we need to write the details
how we want it instead of having just cringey like dialogue,
because then I was thinking, if it's like the summer
I turn pretty, We're all gonna go. Yeah, you know,
it's only because there's a book involved. Yeah, if that move,
if that TV show cold dropped, people would be like,

(01:16:59):
the fuck are they talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Are Jeremiah one time and you're like, oh, I hate him,
I hate Belly.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
I know we'll do I don't do it better. I yeah,
looking forward to season three of that only because I
need to know where it ends up, you know, not
Oh my god, I don't want to see Jeremiah and Belly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
The author said that it might end differently, and I
was like, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
She said that, like people will be satisfied with the ending,
But I'm like, but does that mean?

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Yeah, I swear to god, if Belly is just like
I choose me, I'm gonna have a nip shit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
I think she's going to do that. But and then
the like final scene is going to be the like
forty years from now because in the book, she studies
abroad and like she breaks up with Jeremiah Conrad still
in California. Aren't nobody She's not with anyone? She goes
and studies abroad and Conrad starts writing her letters, so
I think, like that's the moment where she chooses herself.
But like her and Conrad eventually do get back together.

(01:18:03):
So are you ever going to be satisfied with the
true ending? Because the book doesn't even have them like
fully together. It's just like a paragraph.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Did you ever watch the Kissing Booth movies?

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Oh? Yeah, I even read that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
I feel like it's gonna end like those are books. Yeah,
I feel like it's gonna end like that where she
just like looks at him in her adult life when
she has the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Thing and you like make your own conclusion and it's like, no, just.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Have Jeremiah have to be at their wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
That's the thing. I think it's gonna end. She's going
to be on her own. It's gonna flash forward. In
the very last scene is like her like Conrad writing
her letter and she's opening it at like when she's
studying abroad, and that it's gonna piss me off.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
You know what's the saddest part about that show is
my favorite scenes are.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
The moms, and one of them's dead.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I know, I want to spin off with the Moms.
My favorite scene in the whole series is when the
two go to the.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Bar a prequel.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Yeah, I want the moms them going to the bar
together had season. I was crying and I texted my
friends from high school. I have two really good friends
of high school, and I was like, this is how
I picture our lives like this, this is it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Would love a preview about them, like because they met
in college like that, and then like them getting together
with their husbands and things like that, but how they
always came to the like the summerhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Oh, I want to see them in college. I want
to see them fucking ship up. When they said at
the bar in their adult forms, they were like, we
used to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
All the time, and I was like, yeah, show me too.
I hate when like Belly is like mom, you're the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Because they could do could do the same format where
it's centers around their summers at the house and then
we get flashbacks to them like meeting in college and
like what their life was like during like the off
season of summer. I love that idea.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Eat that up anyway. Watching anything, I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Haven't really I mean I watched Like the Valley, but
I feel like there was nothing going on. There was
nothing except for like Jack's rage texting from Rehab.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
You know, it's kind of boring. I started watching that
show Battle Camp. I haven't finished it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, what you saying.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
It's so dumb, dude, but I hate these people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
I you you sent me a voice memo about Tony
crying when Gaby went home. I specifically didn't tell you
about that scene.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
I think I was at work.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
I started playing this, well, oh yeah, I don't have
to pay attention to it. It was such a bad
idea because I was cracking up at my desk, like
I had to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
I had to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
It's good because it's like bad it and all.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
That happened was like a girl he's not even dating
that he's known for all a five minute who has
a boyfriend, who has a boyfriend, got had to leave
because the wheel spun on her name, and then he
was stopping and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
He doesn't know that she voted for him to go home.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
That was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
And then the next day he wakes up still so
sad and he's like, have to go, and I was
he kept sobbing, I kept cracking up.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
It was it was annoying because he was like, I
don't want to be in a game where people don't
like me and vote for me, Like I would just
rather look at somebody mold, I'm gonna remove myself, and
it's like, shot the fuck up. I wanted to punch it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
It was so funny. I left the whole time. He
was so he was so distraught. Yeah, he was so sad.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
It was just that just shows you. You have your
name one time on that wheel, I know you're gonna
get momented.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Who care?

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
I feel like, okay, because there's now people campaigning to
be like, don't put my name on the wheel, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Vote for me. What's his name?

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Trey turned against your best friend Louis to here's my thing?
I feel like I would be like, I don't care
if you vote for me. At this point, anything could happen.
I could be once, I could be up there fifty
times at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Yeah, the odds aren't in my favor. But you know,
Kennon still got picked for the Hunger Game. So here
I am. That's fine and you don't even have to
do anything, but you just leave. That's the thing is,
it's not that serious.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
And this man was sobbing over someone else, not even himself, leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
I know, like, you guys are fine.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
That's I think that's the other isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Even that durstic. It's two hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
And if you give me like Big Brother the Challenge Survivor,
like the way it's built up, I'm like, oh, man,
life or death. If you lose the elimination this game,
I'm like the wheel spins and you just go home.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
It does become super inconsequential. The ending is kind of stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
I I would be like, yeah, vote for I wouldn't
even campaign at that point because the other thing is
everyone's like, oh no, one's playing with integrity, and I'm like,
oh no.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
And then and then because somebody comes in and replaces
the team, it's not even that big of a deal.
If you lose someone on your team, you're like, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
On the Yeah, they're in two teams now, which I
was like, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Yeah, that gets a little bit better with the like strategy,
I'll say, because I think the Red team was like,
all we have to do is just get everybody on
that team to go against somebody on their team, and
so that way, yeah, on our team gets up there
and I get that mentality.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
You're like, let's because there's no more placements? Yeah, which fine,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
It just seems so inconsequential. And also like the host.
At first, I was like, ooh, hot man, he's weird. Dude,
he's so weirdo. I don't like him.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
He starts to make it seem like it's life and death.
I'm like, bro, it's not that serious. Get your little
mustache and vest out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
I hate when he starts like like making it bigger
than it is, or like trying to get people to
talk about their feelings, and I'm like at the wheel.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
He's always like I literally feel about that?

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
I can't take it. I don't care about these people.
But yeah, I mean, I hope. I like his name
Chance Chase.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
He just showed up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Chase a lot to handle. He's a terrible man. I
can't wait to see him play a little dirty. I
hope he does. I'm rooting for him because in this game,
given he's only been on dating shows and he's been
terrible on those, which I don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
But if he's terrible on this show, yeah, I root
for that. I want to see a little gameplay. So
I'm hoping he sticks around because everyone else is like
train to train his best friend who cares?

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Oh my god. They won't get over that, Alicia. They
literally talk about it constantly. They're always like, I don't
trust him. He betrayed his best friend.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Trust anyone in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
He didn't vote his best friend doubt. All he said
was like, hey, please don't vote for me. I would
do that to Alicia. If it's between you and me,
I'd be like, don't vote for vote for me. That's
self preservation. I'm not going to go and try to
get people to vote you out if I'm not. If
I'm not in the way.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Also sto people, I can't trust it. It's anyone. There's okay,
one winner, there's one winner. You I guess anyone I.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Get wanting to trust, like your people, like Georgia and
Lorenzo are like that at the end, trust that one person.
But why do we need to say everyone here? Everybody
acts like we all need to be friends.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Yeah, but at the end of the day, at some point,
Lorenzo and Georgia will have to go against each other.
So like, yeah, if it's up, if it's you at
any point.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
You're gonna be pissed at how the final thing plays out.
Both like how the structure of how the like winner
is decided annoyed me, but then like also in the
actual it happening, I'm like, shut the fuck up, you people.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
I bet everyone cries. It's gonnadrag me nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
The steaks cannot be that big, okay, because when you
watch reality TV a lot of times you have to remember,
like the music is not normally in it. Yeah, for us,
the steaks seem higher. These steaks are so low. I
can't imagine being at the summer. I'd be like, literally
doesn't matter, no, literally stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
The one thing I do like that I think would
be fun to be on the show is their little
like huts or whatever they're sleeping and the hut I
love every night that they're like like Shooby's like going
to bed. He's like ni guys.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Yeah, they have like pillow talk on their individual huts. Yeah,
or Shooby Man.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Everyone loves him, but he's just he's the cutest but laugh.
He he miss misspelled the word and everyone was like.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
It was getting on purpose and everyone was like, no,
I think he could something. Yeah, ecosystem and he thought
it was ecosystem.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Yeah, that's rough, and listen he was scared. I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
But yeah, I love how everyone's like, if Shoey was
a little dirtier of a player, he could really kill
this game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
But he's not.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
He's just I know, I don't know. So that's where
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
So I'm watching that, mm hmm, a little bit of
Housewives of Orange County after that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
I've met Brooks, I've met Vicky's boyfriend Brooks.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
If I mentioned that is Megan King Edmund's on it yet? No, Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
I met Brooks, and I've met Heather Dubrow. I love I.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Love Fancy, I love her.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
I love her and her husband. Are they still together?

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Oh so the guy really like them together. I think
they're a hoot. I think Heather du Brow is so funny.
They even had for a second, I thought I was
gonna hate the husband because I really liked him. And
then Heather du Brow was like, I'm going to go
back to work, and the husband was like, what's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Going to happen to our family? Then?

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
And I was like, if he fucking prevents her from working?
But then he's like, listen, if you need twelve nannies,
we'll do that. If you need me to move to
Canada with you, I'll do that. I was like, I know,
give me this man.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
No, he did.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
He's so amazing. And their conflicts are like at some
point they'll build a new house and all he wants
is like onion rings at their like new house breaking
party thing that they throw and she's like onion rings,
and it's like that's their conflict.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
No, I'm obsessed with them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Yeah, I hope Heather Dubroke graces my screen forever.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
I'm actually such a big fan of hers.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Okay, in modern day she is she is so so amazing.
She has one child who is trans and two children.
She has four children total, I believe, and she one
is trans and two one is gay and one is
by And she is so outspoken, so welcoming, She's constantly
talking about it. She like this is a spoiler for you.

(01:28:37):
But she takes a break from Real Housewives of Orange
County but comes back and like, like so she can
showcase her family and like show people that there's families
who do love you out there, even if your own doesn't.
Like it is so pretty. Yeah, she is like so rich,
but I love that she just like loves what she loves.
She has tea She's not gonna apologize for it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Like so funny about it too. She's like, these women
don't eat carbs. I guess I will never eat carbs again.
And she just I heres a chef and is like,
don't have any Carbs's.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Like no, she's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
These women argue and she's like, the fuck is wrong
with everyone? She came at, Oh, what's her nuts? Not Gretchen?
Who's Gretchen's friend? Whose name escapes me?

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
Oh, I don't know. Jesus U, Jesus Juke.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
She becomes of Jesus Jugs, but very calmly.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
She's like, don't talk shit on my husband, and Jesus
Jugs is like freaking out about her nose.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
John. Heather is good at fighting because she's all these
women in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Like these and she knows it. She knows she's she's.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Classier than them. She has more money, she has the
supportive husband, like she has everything that these women want,
and so they like doesn't give a ship what's going on.
But she'll always just voice her opinions so calmly and
it just cuts like ice.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
I'm so happy, finally I've picked a housewife that I'm
not going to stop loving.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
I bet she has her moments where you're like, Heather,
You're like so full of yourself and it's hard to
want because there she's so rich. Like That's what's hard
sometimes is I think I could. It does great on
me a little bit. But that's the thing is I'm like, uh,
I'm not rich.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Yeah, I think I could do that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I think it's when you like do bad things that
I'm like, I don't know, Like, like it's hard because
I do really I enjoy watching Tamra, but I know
I hate her in real life.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Oh that I know Vicky.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
I love watching Viggy dude, but I know in real
life she kind of sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
So that's another hard one. But again, Vicky's family is
kind of great.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Like they're entertaining. Here's the thing. Vicky is the type
the type of person who put it all out there
and she will show everything. Her family will give everything,
like I don't. I see Tamra and I'm like, I
don't respect your decisions, I don't respect your life. I
don't like how you attack things. I think you're so rude. Vicky.
I think just like will do anything for love, and
she ruins her own life first and foremost slightly ruins

(01:30:57):
other people's, but she like just want to be loved.
She wants her love take full. Thankful you end up
feeling bad for her. Micky bothers me towards the end
because she becomes a little elitist about that she's the
og of the OC, and I'm like, Babe, like this,
it's like how Jack's thought, like Vanner Pump was, his
show kind of becomes like that, and I'm like, hey,

(01:31:19):
this is a show. It isn't just about you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Listen, And like, I know I'm gonna hate Brianna because
she's fucking terrible maga, but.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
List that makes I mean, that does make sense. I
never really thought about it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
Yeah, but I do like Brianna on the show. I
have to say, though, the Don divorce hit me hard.
I knew they were hitting divorce, but like, listening to
Brianna and Michael talk about it really kind of hit
me because both of them were like, listen, we don't
have a relationship with our real dad.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Don was the person because I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Always felt, and I told you this, that the kids
didn't really care about Don, and I felt bad for
him because he seemed to really love the kids. But
then when the divorce happened, both Michael and Brianna were like,
Don was the guy that raised me. And like I said,
Briann didn't talk to her mom for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
She was so.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
And then Michael was like, our relationship won't change, like
I'm still gonna see Don. And Brianna had Don over
at her apartment. They like crack some beers open with
her cancer or not cancer, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
The lymph notes.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Well, I was like that melts is about to be
real interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
No, that dude's weird. That's how I feel, I know,
though I do weirdly.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Like I like it. Yet he's a good house husband,
where like he won't really get into stuff, but if
he gets into it, because let's be honest, sometimes the
husband do get kind of like dragged into it, whether
it's their own wife or other wives, he always handles it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Yeah, I did just watch the scene where Vicky and
Eddie were touching too much, so Tamara grabbed Brooks's hand
and put it on her boob and that cost a
really big fight, and I was like, this is crazy.
Tama's kind of crazy. But yeah, I hate Jesus Jugs.
I hate her want First of all, she recently said
on an episode I watched that women shouldn't be president,

(01:33:10):
which I see the way she voted. I hate her.
She's also very Christian. She's one of those Christians that
probably hates the pope.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Okay, she has come back to being she has either
a trans kid or a gay kid, so like she
is a little bit more away. Yeah, yeah, like her
and I went to glad Awards together, so like she
has boomerang back into I mean, she's psychotic in real date.

(01:33:37):
Still I would have still mad.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
I guessed that that would have been fine for her.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
And I don't think her husband is supportive.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Her husband sucks. Oh my god, do I hate that man?
And then I hate Gretchen and Slade yuck man, Gretchen.
Sometimes I'm like, you know, it's fine. Do I hate
Slade though? That's so weird though for sure, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
I wonder if what season are you on? I wonder
if you're gonna catch up by the time the next
season comes out. Oh there's out there. There has to
be like eighteen or nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
It always depends how many how how many meetings I
have at work?

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, I have a.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Clear day and I'm in because I only watch it
in the office too, because when I'm home, I can
do like other things and watch whatever. Yeah, but I
only have Peacock on my phone, so I can only
watch the Housewives when I work, So I only watch that.
And if I have a clear day in the office,
I could get through like.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
The boo boom boom boom boom.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Yeah, but if I have meetings in between, and then
it's like how do I get back in this? So
it's been I've been slow lately, but yeah, those are
Those are the Housewives I'm watching right now and I
love that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Have you been watching the Karen Rey trial.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
I kept in touch with a little bit of it,
but I haven't been watching it on like court TV
At this point. I'm going to wait till the defense's
case starts, but I've been seeing it through TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Her lawyer is still killing it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
Yes, yeah, yeah, there's I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
There Jennifer mccab the new clown of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
She was new clown like at the end of last
week she was on the stand and stuff and a
mania per usual.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
If out there huh for Jennifer McCabe and her Boston accent.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
How do I love? I told my mom about this
case she had.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
I was like, Mom, I got my dad into it.
He obviously cares a lot about it because he's a
lawyer and stuff. But I updated on when I saw
him last week.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
My mom, of course, she can't help it. She was like,
but how do you know she's innocent?

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
And I was like, Mom, You're like, let me tell
you all the psychotic things I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
The police got through, all the corruption. Mom, stop this.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
If I gave her, like my ted talk on how
this is also connected to another case where there's a
lot of police corruption, and then all the videos that
I've gone missing, like the dive I've done, your mom
would be like, yes, es, yes, I'm on board.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
I think it's funny because my mom, if a woman
gets murdered, ever, she immediately goes probably husband like she
is that woman. But then immediately I'm like police corruption,
and she's like police and I'm like, you're literally a
woman of color who's not.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
To get deported, like get it together.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
I wonder if she like just doesn't want to believe
in bad police, which I get people who are like that,
Like you don't want to believe that society is like
in such a terrible place.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
I don't think she wants to.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
And I also think though her parents are like from Guatemala,
my mom was like born raised in the US, and
she grew up in a very white area, similar to me,
and had like a lot of white friends.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
And I feel like she just became kind of like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Not a white girl, but like you know, she fit in.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Yeah, And I mean I'm guilty of that too. I
did it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
But then you know, with I think nine to eleven
was a big contributor for people to start looking at
skin as far as people our age to start looking
at skin color, and then it got more prevalent and
more talked about in our generation. I was just naturally
a little more aware of it than I think my
mom growing up ever, was, And I think she does
want to believe like the police can.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Help, Like she's there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
With the police. Yeah, she works in schools, right. She
wants to believe the people who are hired to do
good do good. Yeah, and I respect and appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
That, but I'm like, you're like not good this day.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
I tell you, my parents want my brother his autism.
This is the type of autism he has. He loves
public service workers, he loves fire people.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
If that influences them, then.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Probably he loves the police officer. If my brother ever
got screwed by one, his world would chatter.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
So you better not. But he supports the local police,
which our local police has been doing much. There's not
a crime where I grew up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
But he put a sign in our driveway. He went
to like an open house, and he put a sign
in the like in our yard that said, like we
support the police. But it was like in twenty twenty.
And I literally was.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Like, no, you're like, I didn't say the local.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
It's at like our town.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
I know. And still you're like, we are we are
becoming the people who are like no back why when
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
I went back to my parents' house and I said
something to my parents and my mom was like, but
you know, it's not like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
That, and I go, no, I know, I know, I
know it's not. But here's the thing. It's like that
for other people.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
And she goes, but anyone who knows us, and I
go no, again, I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
I am not doubting the people who don't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
So I literally would just make comments all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
I'd be like, I'm gonna literally take a huge shit
on that sign and like get it out.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Of my Black Lives Matter sign and just put it
next to it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
My brother was like, there's your take on the sign.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Eventually, because my brother is very involved in the news
as well, he's very educated. He also doesn't have a
college degree, but he is very educated. He pays attention,
and I think at some point he started seeing what
was happening to you. He was like, can we bring
the sign inside my room?

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
And I was like, we love that, we love that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
It took a few months. I think he did it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
At some point just pissed me off because I was like,
the sign is driving me nuts and he was like yeah.
But he eventually learned because he is he is very
very liberal. My my dude has been trained well, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
We don't try men though, I guess brothers and mom's
and me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
He grew up with me. He knew he is a
feminist king.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Let me tell you anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Well, are you listening to anything Weirdly.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
No, A lot of music, a lot of Scissa. Actually,
I was listening to the Basketball playlist. It got me sizza,
and so I've just been listening to a lot of
scizza lately.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
We're listening to.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
Nothing. I don't even think I've been listening to any
podcasts recently. I need to get into it because I
think if I go and walk outside, I will like
and the things.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
You want to know what I want to listen to?
What the Amy Polar podcast?

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Yeah, I told you I've listened to the one with
Hannah and Page and it was good, So I want
to and my therapist recommended it. So I do want
to get into that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
I really want to.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
I just haven't been on any walks lately where I
was feeling a podcast. I was feeling sizza Weirdly, Noah,
but I do. If there is a podcast, I wanted
to be the Amy Polar one because I love her
and she's so good. Oh oh, actually, weirdly enough because
I only care about women's basketball now. I don't know

(01:40:35):
if you know Flage Johnson. She's a I do LSU
basketball player. She has a PODCA.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
I don't know if it's a podcast or just like
a show. It's called best of both worlds.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
Because she's also a musician, y'all, she's the most marketable person.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
But I think you mentioned this.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
She oh dimension her podcast or show or what.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
I think that she's a musician.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
Oh maybe, but she interviews me. She's really good. She's
a really like I wonder her to have a talk show.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
You know, some people just make people feel really like
comfortable and.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Like, yeah, you could tell people.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
She reminds me of like an Amy Pohler, where like
you love it and it make sure your guests feel
comfortable and you both laugh and you both discuss things,
but you're finding out information.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, I listened to.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
A little of her when I was working today.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
I love that for show.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
Yeah great, that's it. Great, we did it. I didn't.
I didn't say any of the things at the beginning.
I realized.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
So Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Patreon, rate, review, subscribe.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
All the links are in our description And with that, love.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
You, thanks for joining. Bye.

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