also...egos and enemies

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it of up. Oh no, no, no, true,
you'll never guess, so sidebar.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes. And also I feel like.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I shouldn't have to remember everything I know. Actually I
have to talk about this three two one, Hi everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, I'm Alicia and I'm Meredith.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And this is also podcasts. Yay. I never know what
to say. I'm so tired.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Anyway, just had a very busy week. She's doing amazing, sweetie.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Y'all, y'all, let me just tell you about work. This
week a project went live. I can't even open my
eyes right now. It's like death Con five I. For
those of you who might I don't know, watch the video. Yeah,
I recorded last night, slept in the same clothes. You
have to tell them there's a there's a stain on
my shirt from cooking dinner. I know because it's down

(00:57):
it's below the desk. I up and just walked straight
to my computer and then get this today. This is
the best part. I logged on at eight and then
I literally didn't eat her pee until three. So corporate
America is so fun. We should all kill ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
That's okay, Not that I'm going to dissuade that if
you're feeling like that, please call the emergency line.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
But it's censored on TikTok. Let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
What I will say is tell all your friends to
listen to us so Alicia doesn't have to have droelling
work weeks anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Guess what, Guess what it's over today. I mean, I
gotta do some work Monday Tuesday that's going to clean
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Not for life the project.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Oh just kidding either one. But I'm not going to
do anything about either of it.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
So tune in next week to find out if Felicia,
I know, I haven't in anyway the cliffhanger of the century.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
So we're here. So I told Meredith this is going
to be either her carrying the show or us just
shooting the shit.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Which no, I'm ready. I'm ready to carry this show
because I have so many opinions I want from you,
or I have like recommendations of shows you have to watch.
I just there's so much going on and I've been
deep in like watching TV this week.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, before we get into it, we have an Instagram,
a TikTok, at, YouTube, a Patreon. All the links are
introduced our description, and please be sure to rate, review,
and subscribe. I'm excited because usually before we log on,
Meredith is one that's like I have nothing to talk about,
and I'm like, I'll carry this back. I'll carry this
show on my back. And today she's gonna be they

(02:36):
me and I can't wait. Okay, Meredith, do you have
anything small you'd like to celebrate?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah? Do you remember in the fall when I was like, oh,
I'm about to be a liberal traad wife, Like, look
at me making all this stuff at home. I made
sourdough for the first time.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh, yung, you're one of those.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I will listen. I'mane normal bread, not sourdough. And then
I was like, this can't be that hard. I like
see those videos and p like in the comments, they're like,
I've tried so many times to make this sour dough starter,
It's impossible. And to be honest, I was kind of like,
it can't be that hard, and it's not. It's not
that hard, Like you just got to like put some

(03:14):
flour and water together. Amazing those I made sourdough this week,
what kind of taste?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Had a taste?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
It tasted good. I was a little impatient, and so
I didn't allow it to like rest correctly. So the
bubbles aren't that big, but like room for growth.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Love that can I be honest what I've had homemade
bread and it's tasted like ass. So now I like
don't know how I feel about homemade bread.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
No, I wouldn't. I would if somebody was like, oh,
try my bread, I'd be like, okay, but.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Someone I don't know. I feel like some people are
always making bread and then I try it and I'm.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Like, no, I wouldn't give it to anybody.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
If it doesn't have preservatives. I think I don't want it.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, I know I need to use half of this
loaf now because I'm going to my parents' house and
like it won't safe till next week. Let's be honest.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
This is my take. I don't like when bread is
thick and heavy.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's I will say. I do have a slight issue
with it, this time being a little bit heavier bubbles.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I've had thick and heavy bread that I it's always
the homemade stuff because they never mass produce heavy bread.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, it's not supposed to be like that, So something
went wrong, like the specialists who are making bread in
our bakeries every day for America are making it correctly.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I would never like doing it.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Take this to you and be like, have half my bread.
This is truly so I can have avocado toast tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I love that great.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
So now how about you? You ask me what about you?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Honestly, my small celebration is that I'm still alive. Like
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
A big celebration right there. Big celebration the.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Fact that I made dinner last night, the fact that
I went grocery shopping on Sunday, and I'm oh my god,
I'm alive, Like the fact I told Meredith this is
how depressed I am. This is so embarrassing. Truly. No,
it's all every night when I log off my computer
at like nine pm, I'm cooking dinner and I'm like, what,

(05:23):
I don't want to watch anything because I really just
want to ride. But I also haven't had a conversation
that day that hasn't revolved around work. So I put
on a Woman's March Madness game that just happened because
we're in May, and I watch it doesn't matter what team,
and I comment. I like give commentary on like the

(05:44):
footwork or like oh that's a nice shot or short.
I'll even call.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Out sometimes short because like you said, you can just
brain run. You don't have to think about a plot
of a show. It's a game. It's going to be
over and like yeah, those when they were actually happening,
like let into each other, but now already.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Know who wins. I have to know who wins, and
it was like could I watch it. It's even the
games that like maybe it's between two teams I didn't
pay attention to that was like out one in the
first one in the second round. I can't watch those
because I don't know who wins. It has to be
a tea a game where I'm like, I like any
South Carolina game and a Yukon game. I know they
make it to the final, so I know who wins

(06:22):
any team in the final four. I'll watch any of
those games. I know who wins, and I watch it
and then I go to bed. I like that, And
that's depression. But we're getting better.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Because she's surviving WNB.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
The preseason for WNBA starts today, so I'm going to
log off work and we're gonna make progress. I'm gonna
watch a game I don't know the outcome to you
look at that and I spend thirty five dollars on
the yearly pass.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
So and you just thought she would be done with basketball?
You it just started.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
No, the only thing in our notes app about to
talk about the show is basketball related.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So that's one of my forever like header on yours
for the next like six months.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm trying to I'm trying to turn myself gay, and
women's basketball seems like the easiest way there.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Here's the thing is it's year round now for you,
not that it wasn't before, but like especially now because
you're even deeper in the WNBA. Yeah, you go WNBA
into college basketball, back into WNBA.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Here's the thing. I will not watch any college basketball
besides the March madness. That make that clear. I don't
have a team.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Okay, okay, okay, I don't I don't care. Oh wait,
so you'll get the fall in winter off.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
But WNBA season ends in October ish and then I
will take a break until on Rival begins in January,
and then we got March madness, and then we got
the summer. It's just I get about three the holiday season,
I take off. How lovely other than that. I'm really true.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Don't ever apologize for interest, especially if that interest is
women's sports.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
No, and literally, like, why am I gonna deprive myself
of something that makes me happy just because other people
might judge me for it?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Nobody's judging you here for.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
No one's judging me is the best part they are.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
They can't talk back to us. They're just they have
to listen to you do it or stop knowing.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know what would be sad if they really hate
that this is one of my special interests and they
keep listening just to hate on me. That's you have
nothing else to do, apparently, But.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
You know what, I kind of like that sad, But
go off. You're big enough going to attract haters like incredible.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I've I was born with haters. Everyone hates me. That's okay, though, Okay,
what do we do next? News? Yes?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh my gosh, I like don't even know where to
start because there were so many things this week that
I was like, I need your opinion on. I'm gonna
start from our origin story when we worked together Crazy
Rich Asians two is like in talks like they're trying
to get the people together for it, like Henry Golding
announced or like set it on a red carpet this week.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Really, okay, for those of you who don't know, we
have to tell you. We when we work together, us
and our friend who's not our friend anymore, Mara, So
she never kept in touch. It's not no bad blood,
but she never ket.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
She moved away.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
She was too cool for us.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
And also we didn't It's all like we invited her
to be part of this podcast.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
She never talked anyway.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
That's true. That's true.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
She just listened to us an aider salad. But we
loved her. Meredith laughs because every day Mari ate a salad,
but we all read crazy rich Asians. And then our first,
like I would say, the three of us friend outside
of work hangout, was that we I went to the

(10:01):
movies to watch it, just the three of us, and
we ordered way too much food and we had to
take it home in zip.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Black Man and not just that. Do you remember we
were watching the previews and it was like Mark, it
was all men's type movies, and then the movie starts
and it's Mark Wahlberg with a guy, and everybody in
the movie was like, something's wrong here.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
I think I was in the middle of you two,
and I was like, the fuck is Mark Wahlberg doing here?
Like I was living.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
You definitely were, because I turned to the guy next
to me being like, I'm sorry, are you here for
crazy rich Asians? Because there's a guy I was like,
I'm sorry, what are you here for?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, because you're like, are we wrong? But we got
to the theater, if I remember correctly, like an hour early,
so yeah, what theater. We stood outside that theater forever,
but yeah, k Wahlberg started and everyone looked confused, and
then there was kind of an uproar, and then they
turned that movie off and everyone cheered, and then we
had to rewatch previews.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
No oh no, no, no, no we didn't. He was like,
I'm so sorry we got to get the previews, like
we don't have time for this.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
And because I was disappointed then, because I like to
see the previews associated with the movie.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Because you're supposed to get ones that are similar, so
it should have tipped us off that there were a
bunch of Action Men previews, but I have.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
To say so. Then we watched the movie, and I
think after we were like, now we got to discuss
how it matched with the book, but also we all
had to get home and it did it did. I mean,
it's a great You want to know why it's a
great airplane movie, It's because it doesn't match the book
very well.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
It's a good story. I really liked it as a movie,
but yeah, like we were upset that it didn't align
with like how book two is set up. So I'm
really great spoiler.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
How did the Mavie Verse book end? The ending was
the worst part.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, the movie ended. A big issue throughout the entire
book was that Rachel and her like real biological father,
like that storyline didn't match up, which is a huge
part of like movie too. But the biggest issue that
we took is that at the ending of the movie,

(12:16):
like Rachel is being pushed out of her like relations
with Nick. Yeah, Nick's mom didn't want her a part
of it, and so Rachel like gives up. She goes
to Peakland or something, I forget what her name was,
like house and then yeah, and then Rachel's mom comes
and they decide they're leaving Singapore, and like, Screwnick, screw

(12:40):
this relationship. They're over And so they're getting on the
plane and Nick finds her, gets on the plane and
has his mom's ring, and the ring is the issue
because his mom. In the book, they do get engaged
and they do like like continue their relationship, but his
mom is still against the relationship. Getting the mom Yeah,
getting the mom's is like a huge issue for her,

(13:02):
Like for it to end like that in the movie,
because in book two, the mom still is upset and
trying to make sure that this wedding doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yes, yeah, but he in the movie doesn't end like
the mom approves, and then they get engaged.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's like yeah, because then there's this whole engagement party
on top of that, like crazy three billion Yes, the
tear name.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
The book was so good when it was like you
really thought they were gonna maybe break up, and then
he shows up on the plane and she's like did
your mom approve? And he's like nah, which was like.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'm willing to give up my family.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I don't think they get engaged in the book on
the plane. It's that they go back to whatever and
they see each other and they like get back together,
but it's under the impression that he's kind of giving
up his family in order to be with her, and
then in book two, his grandma is dying, so then
he has to go back and it's like will he
get his inheritance because he kind of like said f
you to the family and.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Wasn't the only one who kept in touch with him.
The cousin Astrid, who then is the best character, who
was very underused in movie one, and I get it,
but in the book she was so I fell in
love with her immediately. And then book two is about
Astrid and her merit. This is the one I remember
the most because I'm obsessed with it.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Well, they actually put her in book one a little too,
like they put her story from book two into book one.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, but also they underutilized her. I think at us
getting to know her as a character. I agree, which
is why I didn't fall in love with her. And
I was just like, she's in a shitty marriage in
the movie, but in the book you fall in love
with her because she's like Nick's cousin and she loves
Rachel and like she becomes like an.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
She's a likable rachelson, Like she loaded and she like
has all that stuff, but she's like not bitch.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
She sticks up for Nick when he's like going against
the family. And then the second book she rekindles with
that guy.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, so really hot, the guy.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
From her past. And so I I was, let me
tell you, the movie ends in this engagement, and I'm
I'm pissed because I'm like, it didn't match. But then
they set it up for movie two because Astrod locks
eyes with that, and then it ends and then we
never heard about this movie, and I have been pissed

(15:19):
ever since, honestly, because you're right.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
It's just that, like they need to completely pivot away
from the books now, like it just needs to be
its own story.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Give us Astroid because now now Rachel and Nick they're done,
So now we need Astrid's whole story.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, Nick and Rachel just need to get married and
go search for her biological father, which is the part
of like book two, and like, yeah, but if.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
You're gonna wrap if you're gonna straight away from the books,
you can wrap that up because their biological dad was
like not even mentioned in movie one.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
So if you're just going to the movie, it was
in such a minute way.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, so you don't need it, but I swear to God.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh you do need it, because her feel is such
a big part of book two and book three.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well, but the main character of book three is that
actress Kitty. Yeah, yes, it's under. It's like under Holy Book.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I forgot about the book. I need to reread these,
I think.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
But you could go, like, if you want to wrap
up Rachel Nick, you could just say they're married, they're
gonna have kids. Second movie focuses on Astroid story, and
then the third movie you're gonna have kiddies. Like those
were all subplot. Sure, but you don't need Rachel and
Nick for like the rest of it. But obviously if
Henry Golding's gonna be in it.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
That was that's a good point, Like, well, they just
need to swap the focus so the focus goes on
Astroid in the same way like Ashid was kind of
a b character, Like Nick and Rachel's wedding is a
is an event that happens for Astrod to be like
the focus of.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Which, Like, but here's the other thing. It's been how
many years at this point you've aged them ten years?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh, I didn't think about that.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
And I mean, these people all look great, but like.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Years, no, not ten, because we didn't we didn't know
each other ten years ago. It's been like six but
still I aged them a little this six or seven
because we stopped working together in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
But Meredith, they haven't even made it yet.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
So like, no, that's so true. That's so true.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
You're going to age them literally ten years and it's
like Stranger Things that they're still in eighth grade, but
they're all literally twenty one.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
That's why I had to stop watching. I was like,
these are taking too long. I get out of and
then whenever they finally get them out, I hate Netflix's
whole We're going to drop half the season at one
point in half the season the last later.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You're wrong. The last season I'm Stranger Things.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Was I haven't watched it, so I should.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Know you're wrong on that.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't know the last two, Oh, I got you have.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
It was so much fun last season. I was having
a ball last with Eddie. Please I was correct. I
was laughing my little ass off. Okay, great, though, make
the movie because I love the actor who I forget
who Astrid's like lover.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I know the whole was amazing.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I literally have the book below me if I could
reach it.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
But yeah, but then won't tell I don't think i'll
tell you who the actress.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
That's all the way over there. No, but I want
the guy's name, Astrid's lover. I like the actor who
is going to play him, Harry Harry Shrum Junior or
whatever he's from Glee and Step Up to the Streets.
If you know, you know, and don't come out, I'll

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this is I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it.
I'm gonna piss people off. Step Up to the Streets
was better than Step Up One.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I like them both. No, you can love them.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Both, but Step Up to the Streets was better. It
was it just it was better.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I agree, But I think it wouldn't have been so
beloved had Step Up one not been so good, Like
people find love with the whole like I'm gonna call
it a franchising though they all have different actors.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Maybe Steven two was just better. It's like when you're
asked which is better Cheapbride the dozen one or cheabread
dozen two. You're gonna say the first one.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Because what too? I love the second? Oh my god,
that's what Those camp houses amazing.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
But it's not as good. Let me tell you why.
I know this, this is my depression. I needed something
to watch yesterday, so I watched both You Were by
the Dozens and Cheer by Dozen and one was way
better than Cheerbreade the dozen two, and I used to
love You Were by the Dozen two a lot more.
You have to rewatch them as an adult. I think
all the tamdy went right over my head as a kid.

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The first one is so funny and I cried at
the end, that's embarrassing. That had more to do with that.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I was gonna say, I think that's your depression with
the kid.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
The kid FedEx, he ran away and then his family
loves him.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
And I was a mess anyway, And to.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Any other news, that's not gonna bring our confessions out
of me.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
This will bring confessions, just in a different way. Group
Chat Season two has dropped on TikTok, and this time
it's about planning a bachelorette, which is just the girls
needed this to be like, no, this is what life
is like.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
For us immediately. So season one was about it's putting
an explain, planning a dinner. I have to say that
one is less. I've been there, but it's less prevalent
in my life. Currently like it. That was very like
when I'm twenty two, I'm trying to plan this dinner,
You're trying to invite your boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
This Aboutrette, I was like, whoa, I feel a little
too seen like I was.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I was hesitant because Group Chat season one was good,
but everyone was very obsessed over it in a way
that I was like, no, I love watching it, but
I can't relate as much. I watched this. So I
watched it because Meredith told me to, and I was like,
I'm a little hesitant. I think I even responded, oh okay, yeah,
and I watched it and I was like, no, this
is I can relate to this right now.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I got my rest. I was like, you're telling me
because I put myself I feel like in the Group
Chat while I'm watching it, and I was like, are
you fucking kidding me? We're going to Costa Rica and
we're already going to grease, like you can shove that
trip up your ass like I would be the girl
we see the most being like we're not doing this.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I think that's why episode or season one didn't hit
as hard, because if you're changing the place, I'm gonna
be like whatever, I don't care. We wanna go to dinner.
You want to one by your boyfriend, Like, fine, there's
five other girls, I'll talk to you kind of thing.
But this, you're gonna have me fly to Greece for
your wedding nine hundred dollars a round trip flights. We're
not even talking hotels. And then you're like, hey, I'm

(21:45):
not gonna have Yeah, you can't have a bachelorette unless
like it's in the town we all live in.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well, I was not saying, why don't you just do
a quote unquote bachelorette when you're already all in Greece,
go to a boat day, Like, do it while you're there.
You don't get a no one's going.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
To yeah, no one's going to Greece for the weekend.
So everyone's there for the week anyway, so you end
as well the day before your wedding be like, hey,
we're gonna do a boat day and then I'll have
the welcome party and then like we're grease, we're doing
the wedding whatever. But no, I am a big believer.
If you are doing a big destination wedding, you don't

(22:21):
get a destination bachelorette.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Nope, you don't.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Especially also hot take, but not if your bachelorette should
never have me leaving the forty eight US Continental state.
If I need a passport for your bachelorette, we're done.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
If you're gonna do it, I think it needs to
be a big discussion of like, here's what I'm thinking.
Is anybody hesitant on this because.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
No, I can't go on a full ass passport. I
am a scary trip for your bachelorette.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I understand, but like, I like, listen, there's like like
like influencers out there who are doing it, Like it
depends on who your friends are and what the vibe is.
So I don't want to make a sweeper all about
it because I might do that I might like. But
the thing is I wuantn't expect people to go. I'd
be like, hey, I want to go on this trip.
If anybody wants to come, come, But it's that bachelorettes
have this unspoken you have to do this type of

(23:15):
mentality and I hate that.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
No. See, if everyone wants to plan a trip, sure,
go for it. That's so fun. The thing with a bachelorette, though,
is it's all about the bride immediately, so we're not
it's not a cohesive vacation. So if you require me
to have a passport for your bachelorette, we all get
a say in what we do immediately. That's why your

(23:40):
bachelorette is not allowed for me to leave the forty
eight continental United States.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I think. I don't think mine would be like
a traditional bacherette. Mine would be a trip to spend
time with friends.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
The minute you go, here's what I'm thinking everyone, I've
put the itinerary together. No no, no, no, no no, no, no,
no no, I'll do that. Also, I'm a big believer bachelorettes.
You get a weekend, so like, why are we flying
fucking anywhere?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yes? Yeah, because you get a weekend. The most you
get it on a Thursday. You get at.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Days to tell me what to do and I'll just
do it. Anything more than that. It becomes my vacation,
so I get to plan shit and do what I
want to fucking do and not hang out with your
separate group of friends that aren't necessarily my group of
friends and I'm sharing a bed with one of them.
That's my issue. On a bachelorette, you get forty eight

(24:32):
hours and I better not neat a passport now. If
you want your wedding in Greece, that's lovely, because I'm
going to give you one to two days of my
life and then I'm going to do whatever the rest is.
I might trip, yeah, goodbye, fine, whatever. No, no, no,
I am so strict about this bachelorette. And Meredith, if
you even remotely think to be like I'm doing a

(24:52):
week long bachelorette, I'm gonna shoot my brains out.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Oh my god, no again, I would just say, because
mine would. I've thought about this a lot because I
don't think I'm like a aditional wedding person, like my
wedding will be like twenty people lunchtime, like we're not
doing this hoopla.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Some time, yuck.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I also envision it like out of the country, like
treating my family to like staying in Italy for a
week type of things. So I feel like I would
have a big if you I have like all these kids,
I have to think about, like I don't want to
like party with my nieces and nephews till ten am.
I would just literally want to go on a trip
with like people I love, and so I think it
would be like, let's go to Greece and like we'll

(25:32):
figure out a plan and whoever wants to come come,
but like there's no pressure at all, like I would
not expect people to come. I get I don't know,
and it would like most likely be like co ed,
Like it would be like if you want to pop
in for a little time, like, go for it. Like
if you want to come for two days, great, if
you want to come for a week, great, Like you
can do whatever you want. I'm gonna go to Greece
and if anybody wants to join on this trip, have

(25:54):
at it.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I guess. I don't know. I feel like if it's
your bachelor, I just keep it in the Uni States
for me and I'll plug and be there. But I
don't like.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Like fiends and like a sash like I don't want that.
I just want to spend time with the people I love,
going to a restaurant, being on a boat, like things
that generally people would enjoy with a vacation.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Making me buy extra shit for your party, here's what
I would do, I've thought. My my friend's husband actually
asked me this recently and was like, whoa my friend Ali,
who I talked about a lot. Her husband Logan I'm
also very good friends with, but not close enough that
I wouldn't kill him if he hurt my friend. Let's
get that on the record. He asked me, like, what
would you do for your bachelorette, and like would I

(26:37):
be invited because we're bros. And I'm like, let me
tell you what I'm doing. I already know. I already know.
I'm renting a huge house somewhere. Doesn't matter where. We
can figure that out.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
We can figure in the forty eight states.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
In the forty eight states, you won't need a passport.
I am renting this huge house. I'm inviting anyone I've
ever had I have in my life that I love.
Not my parents, they're they are uninvited, but any any
one of my friends. And I'm going we are gonna
Jersey Shore. This bitch up. We're not leaving this house though.

(27:12):
It's just one giant ass house party for forty eight hours,
and won't go. I love the choking. We'll go to sleep,
we'll do other things whatever. But like we are waking up,
we are jumping in the pool, we are drinking, we
are playing drinking games. We're gonna I'm gonna have flip
cup in one quarter. I'm gonna love a poker table

(27:32):
at the other. We're gonna be having the best time.
There's gonna be music playing if someone wants to DJ,
let it out, and it's gonna be so fun. Where
whatever you want, do whatever you want, no makeup, put
on sweatpants for all I care. That is my bachelor.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
The mission is just to have fun. It's not that
like a spotlight's on you. It's just to be with
the people you love and care about. Like, how does
this read from that?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
We're all bunking up to three married couples to a room.
Let's do it, bed sure, bring your husbands to We're
all gonna be smashed and we're not even gonna remember
who cares. Chips galore. Everyone's gonna eat carbs and frozen pizzas.
We're not even ordering out the door dash. People won't
even know where we live. That's my bachelorette. And then
we're all gonna leave smelly the next day.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's like a lock in.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
No, literally, I want to do a lockin. I think
it'd just be so funny to be like, because all
I have everyone in my life knows at least one
other person in my life, so I'd be like, I
don't even care where you sleep. There's no room assignments
to sleep on the couch, sleep on the floor.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I like that kitchen stove because also if you open
it up, then the people in your life really get
to meet and like bond and have a moment together
before your wedding. Like I think that's what we're missing
with a lot of these weddings. People used to live
in the same city as everyone they really knew, and
so there's an opportunity to know a lot of the people.
Now it's like everybody across the US is like converging
at this one place, and it's not that fun because

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I don't know who the fuck these people are at
your wedding.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
And I used to be against like co ed, Like
you know, we watched it on vander Pumper Roles and
I was like, why would you go with your significant other? Listen,
my significant other and his friends aren't invited this this
is my how If he wants to come, fine, but
his friends are not invited to. By shit, these are
my friends and we're gonna all I'm gonna do is
text my friends and going. All I'm asking is forty

(29:18):
eight hours of your time. This is all I'll need.
I will provide all the booze. I will pay for
the place.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
You just need to somehow show up, just be present.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I'll pay for the food, I'll play for the drinks.
I'll pay for the sleeping arrangements. There'll be a pool.
We are going to get after. You like to the
millennial culture club vibes, Think real world, think Jersey. Sure
the ship you watched on TV as a kid, and
you went, I can't wait to be twenty one to
do that. That's my bachelorette.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Mmmm, it'll be I love it.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
I love it. Spin the bottle. Everyone's married except like me,
and I'm like, spin the bottle for shots or for
something else, or like there could be literally anything. But
we're all gonna be drunk. We're not gonna remember. But
you just know people are gonna cheat them. I have
to deal with it. Oh my god, we're to black out.
We're all blacked out.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Who Alicia.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I want? I don't even want to know about it.
You looked up with someone who's not your husband, enjoyed.
Don't let me know I want to know.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Like six months after my wedding, Like I don't want
to know before my wedding.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Don't even want to know. And then I'll have a
ten person wedding and you're probably not invited to that.
No one is. I'm not gonna tell anyone. I'm eloping
they'll never know.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
The thing. I feel like, if I were to do
a bachelorette in the US, it would be kind of
like a party for everyone, because you're not coming to
my wedding.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, I want a small wedding, and so that would
be ideal. I feel my parents. I'm gonna alope if
it ever happens. I'm a lobing, a prenup and a lope.
Nothing bad can happen to me. Check check, Okay, great.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Next up on the list is the Karen re try.
I'll just started off again. My TikTok is these videos.
I just love it. What's your name McCabe, Jennifer McCabe.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yes, that's what she sounds like to me.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
She was on the stand the end of this week.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
And an Okay, how's Karen doing?

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Is she? God?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I love her.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I think she's doing way better than like the first
trial with her like facial reactions, but like I be her,
I would beat her. It's like, are you fucking kidding me?
You guys are throwing me under the bus and colluding
to put me in jail. I get to make any
facial reaction I want.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
My eyes would roll so far in the back of
my head.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, every time.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
One of those cops said anything, I'd be like.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh, the big like things that are different between this
trial and last one. Are Michael Proctor not involved, Like
he was suspended. They're not putting him on the stand.
He's not with this case, which obviously he was the
one doing the entire investigation and was like talking shit about.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Said you're in she was hot though she was a
cun but she was hot.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, like looking for her nudes on her phone, like
terrible behavior, even if like she did do it, terrible
behavior from him, like gross stuff. So he's not involved
in it. And then they had a lot of prem
like trial motions and stuff like leading up to this
about like what was allowed and like who was going

(32:33):
to be allowed to testify in a big issue the
prosecution had was with those like expert witnesses that the
FBI hired. The guys, Like one of them is really hot.
People on the internet call him crash Daddy.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, me, I'm the Internet.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
So they I forget what the term is. But there's
like a way that you talk with the witnesses without
the jury present, and the judge will like rule on
whether or not that these people can testify during the trials.
And so they had that, like on one of the
days the court days, they like released the jury and
they had these guys testify about a lot of stuff.

(33:14):
It was just like a I think it's called a
wandier or something like that. It's like a huge discussion
and a huge issue during that was that the ARCA
guys deleted all their text messages with the defense, and
the prosecution was like, why didn't you save those? And
he's like, dude, the trial was over. It was like
two months after. I don't keep correspondence with every person

(33:35):
I work with, Like that's a lot And he was like,
I mean that must have taken you a lot of
time to delete one hundred messages. And everyone on the
internet is like you can literally just swipe over and
delete everything I do.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Like two seconds, not even yeah, And so I hate
I hate that the prosecution doesn't know how the Internet
or phones were, Like it's like that that is the
biggest red flag to me, is they actually don't know
how the internet and phones were.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's like that's how the Congress is too. It's like, babe,
like it's not that hard.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Literally, I hate my Mark Zuckerberg. But when they were
like questioning that man about like Facebook Congress was, and
he looked so annoyed, and I was like, no, literally,
let this man go. What's the crime?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
The dumbest stuff? And so like it got to a
point where like the prosecution was like yelling at crash
Daddy and he was kind of.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Laughing down, like so getting their panties in a bunch
out here.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yes, and like that was like inappropriate. And of course,
you know, Judge Bev is like doing nothing to tell
them like that's inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
She's a bitch.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yes. And one of the things the prosecution asked, crash
Shaddy answered with, I forget what the other lawyer's name,
one of the defense lawyers, like his first name. He
was like, oh yeah, I was talking to like Hank
and he was like, oh wow, are you guys that
friendly that you like are on first name Basis and
he was like, that's literally his name, Like sorry, I
call him and then he was like, oh, like attorney

(35:06):
to whatever last name. He's like okay, fine, Like so
he started using a more proper term and he's like,
so would you say you guys are friends? And he
was like no, like this is a professional relationship. What
are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Do they how do you work for my god? In
the workplace, I'm not using formal name. How old are
this prosecution? How old are you?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Honestly kind of old. So then it gets to like
the end of that and Judge Beb is like, how
would you like me to rule, like to the defense?
Can you give me like why I should rule for
Arca to be able to testify considering this rule? And
the rule was that lawyers have to keep communication with
their clients for ten years. Like it's just a rule

(35:49):
that lawyers are, okay, And so she was like, based
on this rule, like why should I let Arca testify
because now they didn't keep they didn't keep their documents.
And he goes, well, that doesn't, that doesn't that rule
doesn't apply to him, and.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
She was like, you know what, the defense.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
She was like that was like, you know what, I'll
stop you right there. I'm gonna You're gonna win this.
And it's like, well, yeah, because none of that makes sense,
Like if he hadn't brought up that that rule didn't apply,
were you gonna rule against him? What? What?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
How?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's crazy, Alisha, But that's like the biggest kerfuffle I
have seen. Oh and then a prosecution witness was on
the stand the next day after this, like bladier and
the prosecution's witness called the prosecutor by his first name,
and everybody was like, you should have really gone in

(36:45):
and been like are you friends? Like that's crazy? Why
would you refer to him by your friends like first name?
So it's icy already, and Jen McCabe has already lied
again and changed her story again. It's it's it's gold, Alisha.
I just love that everybody will not like take their
foot off these people's next. Can for the rest of time?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Can the jury just get my girl Karen out of
here already?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I think they will. I've heard that they're taking a
lot of notes, like this is kind of a complicated
case to like hold on to a lot of the
details because the prosecution is giving like false information and
then whenever they go to cross like the defense is
able to say that never happens. So if they're not
taking notes, it can get lost in the shuffle. But
I've heard they're really on it with taking notes.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
It is to me crazy that the first trial ended
in a mistrial, Like, say, who was the one person
that was like Nash's guilty?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
What I heard that the foreman, the person leading the
jury was I like Boston cop and was like on
the inside, which like also that's like I don't know
if like how far this conspiracy is going, like how
sarrashing it is, but still like whether or not the
prosecution got to him. If you're a cop, I would

(38:02):
also kind of be on the defense being like I'm
a Boston cop too, like you're not gonna take my
people down, Like it wouldn't shock me if like even
if he never got in contact with prosecution, he had
a wall up.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
And that's the problem in this fucking city. Is this
taking place in Boston again, it's.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Like a suburb of Boston.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh my god, do I love them testifying in a
Boston accent? That is the funniest. And then Karen's thick
gas Boston accent and then m cabs got those thick
gas Boston necks. And because it took place, there's a car.
Oh yeah, they can't say there are is ever like
she's driving the car. Oh every time, every time.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
And like cop, they're always like, yeah, he's a cop,
he's a cop.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I love what they're like, what was that. Jennifer McCabe
was like, who's the guy that died? It doesn't even
matter John John was my friend. And she did it
in like the craziest accent. She's like, I actually loved
and her voice was so pitch high and her boss
accent was so thick.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Alicia, she showed up to the stand like she had
a whole makeover. Don Like she went to like get
a blow out the day before because people hadn't ripped
her apart for her appearance in the first trial.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Does she think it's going to get better? I don't
care what she looks like. She's a fucking weirdo. Here's
my thing. Karen's innocent. And I truly went into this
until recently knowing nothing about this trial. I would have
been a bester in the world. It took me one
Netflix or one Max stte like, yeah, no, even if

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she's guilty, the evidence it's very much it is if
the glove doesn't fit, you have to acquit the glove
doesn't fit.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I that for me. Like we can argue whether she
did it or did it and even if she had
like involuntary manslaughter where she didn't know she had, Okay, fine, whatever,
Like we can discuss that. It's fun to debate, but
when it comes to this evidence in these trials that
she is not guilty.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Literally, the prosecution doesn't know how the internet works. How
are we taking anything they say into consideration?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Oh, oh your house house long to die in the snow,
you're gonna die, Alicia another prosecution witness, because we're on
the like prosecutor's case right now, analyze John o'keith. I
think it was either her sphone data or is like
Apple watch data. And they literally made a misleading chart
about where he could have stood at like forty four

(40:34):
fair view the house he died at, because they made
the circle on like the aerial view of the house
fit perfectly, not up until the house. But if you
look at how far from the street to the houses,
I think it's like seventy five feet in the inaccuracy
of like where it would ping where he was at
is like eighty two feet and so on cross. The

(40:55):
defense was like wait, so, like what's the circumference of
the circle, Like how like is that? And the guy
was like eighty two feet and he was like do
you know what the distance is? And he was like
seventy five and he's like, oh, so your circle would
be in the house and he was like yeah, so
we could have.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Been literally the glove doesn't fit like I did, Like
nothing they say lands.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
At oh no, and they like always give misleading data
and misleading information and misleading videos like if you have
to do that, why are we trying this case?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
There was that one video of the car that was
taken to like what the mechanics are, like the pound whatever.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
The junk where sally port yeah, the Sally yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
And they show like, oh, they never came close to
like the passenger side, like oh my god. And then
the defense was literally like if you look, this video
is backwards, so let's flip it. Oh, look it he
is by the passenger side tail light. And I was
like if I was a juror, I'd be like, you're

(42:02):
just lying. You're just you're just sitting here lying because
to me.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Why do you need to do such shady activities? If
the truth shows that she did.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
It again, yes, yes, why are we she like doing
shady shit if you have concrete evidence that she did it,
if you believe it's so bad? Okay, she was mad
at him. I sit on this podcast twice a week
and talking about ham and kill half of the people
I want we speak about. That doesn't mean I do
it if one if it shows up dead, sure I'm

(42:32):
angry at them. If Carl Radkey somehow shows up dead,
yeah you should question me. But there's no evidence, and
so goodbye.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Like what, it's so crazy crazy?

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Put me on this trial. I'd be like, I'll save
you a lot of time. She's innocent.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
As the crazy shit happens, She's.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
She will never be one hundred not proven guilty. There's
no way. You just hate a woman. That's you just
hate this woman. My favorite is that she doesn't even
give a shit anymore. She was sad that her boyfriend
died and now she's just like I kind of care.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yes, no, Jesus Christ, Well, what sounds like she can
never live a normal life.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Again, No, but she doesn't need to because Boston loves her.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
But like she's in like hundreds, if not millions of
dollars of debt. True, Like her life is ruined even
if she doesn't go to jail. And now they'rey so sad, very.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
True, all because what these other Boston cops don't want
to admit to what happened or just say it was
probably an accident for some reason, he was outside, he
passed out, and now he's dead. It literally, it could
just be an accident. We don't know, and we'll never
know because you're giving this false fucking information that just
leads me to believe she's innocent and the cops killed them.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
That's the thing. If some of these people didn't do this,
which I mean, I don't think all of them were involved.
I think all of them are involved in the cover up.
But the people who weren't involved in the actual incident
are making it so hard for his family to find peace.
And I couldn't never do that, no, even if it
was my own family. Like, I'm sorry, I'm not backing
a murderer, no matter who they are.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I don't think I would either. I think I want
the tea so that I've run to the police and
be like, guess what.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
That's why I saw that I would want to be
the hero. I would want to be like, wait, I
literally got a confession out of them. Look I got
it recorded.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Oh my god, I'm turning my father in never yes,
what happened.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Like the most I would do is like not call
the cops on you, But I'm not gonna help you
with a cover up.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Turn my head the other way. But I'm a big mouth.
I'm gonna tell someone probably, Yeah, don't invite me to
your scheme unless.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
I want to be invited to the schemes. But don't
not a murder every other steate I'm in. I want
to know about it.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
If you're Luigi, though, I'll help you. What you need.
You need another city bike to escape? I got you.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
What's up? I will perfectly time the city bike for you. See,
that's okay. I will do that. Like, but we got
to make sure I have like plausible deniability where it's
like you stole the bike from me.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Sure, who are we and it all depends who we're killing,
you know, and who are not blaming? Who are we
going to blame?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
After that, Alicia. I told my friend that when the
day happens, the day we all know we're hoping for,
I was like, we should, we should sort of go
fund me already for that person. Like I'm ready to support.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
We have to help them escape because they're a hero. No, truly,
I love Luigi. Dude, you ever need anything, let me know.
I heard he's taking letters, like you could write to
him and he writes back.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
He also has released that he I think he needs
either the letters to reduce or he like gave some
commutation out there that he like can't answer them as
fast because he's getting an onslaught of letters. He's like, hey, yeah,
here's my system of who I've.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
That's that's prevented me from writing. Yeah, but I'm happy
he has support and he's not bored for sure. He
just kiss so much to read. He's gonna be so educated.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
After this, and he just like is probably filled with
so much love. Like that's that would make me fight
if like everybody was like on my side, I'm like, hell.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, truely. Actually this just came up at work the
other day. We had like a I don't know everyone
in our area just ate lunch at the same time.
So we all sat together and we brought up Luigi
and this one guy was like, no, love him. And
then this girl was like, who's Luigi? And we were like,
you don't know. So we had to tell her. And
when I tell you, we we gave our immediately. We

(46:40):
told the story from our point of view, which was
very positive.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Wait, how does this person not know?

Speaker 1 (46:44):
No, literally under a rock.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
You live in New York, first off, under everywhere.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
She's not in pop culture, so that might.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Okay, but this isn't just pop culture. Like, this is
real news too.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I know if you met her you'd be like maybe,
but no, she should know because she's like on socials.
I don't know. But then she was like, but murder
is wrong, and the whole table went ah not you
like like, ah.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
It's like yeah, in like the real sense, I agree
with you, but this isn't normal murder, Like this isn't
the same thing.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
We all went boo, and we moved on. We moved on.
I was like, don't be friends with us.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Then no, she was like, okay, Well I've got one more,
one more enemy for you. This is gonna. I texted
you that this would riley you up.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Here's the thing. Literally, any time any of these people
I hate go missing, I'm gonna be accused for for
the murder.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Okay, this one, this one, for sure, you might be.
But the only thing on your side is you don't
live in the same city as this person.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Ooh, plausible deniability. What's up?

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Okay? Our enemy Nick vaiel, Oh my.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
God, kill him. It was me. It was me. I
did it. It was me.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
He is on his fucking podcast this week. I didn't
listen to what I saw this on Josh the like
Roney Stands TikTok. Nick was on his podcast this week
saying that Britney needs to be the bigger person and
stop talking negatively about Jack's. Like when there's two people
going through a divorce or breakup, somebody needs to rise
above and be the bigger person. Like what.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I'm sorry is he is he dead ass?

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Dead ass?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
I know he's we're recording a podcast, but Meredith, I'm
gonna just need a second, really keep recording.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
He fucking sucks?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Is he fucking serious? Right? Like he's he's all cot
I literally anyway.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Oh my god, It's like it hasn't even been a
year since this stuff happened and she has to watch
it back on her TV. And you're saying she can't
talk about it. I get it in like ten years, okay,
Like this can't be everything she talks about like every
second of the day. I would agree with that take,
but it hasn't been a year.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Here. Here's what I'm gonna calmly say about it. One,
men never should have podcasts. I don't know why this
isn't a rule already put it into the constitution. If
women can't vote, men can't have Yes, Oh, I mean sure,
but like we got to start small because our rights
are being taken away, So you're right to have a podcast. Goodbye. Second,

(49:34):
I hope Nick Fayel gets hit by a comment. I
hate him. He knows nothing. And Third, I would go
as far to say that he actually hasn't watched vander
Punk Rules like he claims, and he actually doesn't know
and he's just a poor poor man, poor men out here.

(49:54):
He's a cocaine addict. Do not know what Jack's has done.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Honestly, cocaine is like the lead of the worries to
be honest, we knew.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
We already knew. That's the best part. We already knew,
and he was still the shittiest person on earth, Nick Vayel,
except maybe he's second to you, So fuck you. I
hope you go through a divorce and I hope Natalie
talks badly about you for the next twenty years because

(50:22):
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it forever and
if I ever somehow get famous and my manager goes,
Nick Fayel, why don't you on his podcast, I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go, And the whole time, I'm just just
scrolling him.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I'm just gonna feeling.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Him everything he asked me. If he's like, what's your
favorite color, I'm gonna be like, wouldn't you like to know, loser,
the color.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Of your blood spilling out of your body because you're
the worst person ever.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Wooh woo Meridian Woo. But I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
go and be like, we don't need to talk about
my life. Let's talk about propove, let's go, let's debate it.
You actually want to say you're like, oh, a pop
culture guy and you love Bravo so much. You're actually not.
You're doing it for clout. You're doing it for views,
and for some reason, all these people keep agreeing on

(51:06):
to go on your show. And truly, even if I
love the person and they agree to go on your show,
I immediately hate them. I immediately just like them a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
It's wild because we've seen him time after time just
be a terrible person to a person who is suffering.
And he flips.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
If Brittany ever goes on the podcast, he'll flip. He
doesn't like Jack's.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Is a terrible person. You're so right, Like, good for
you for standing up to him and Pete speaking your truth.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
He doesn't actually have an opinion. He just agrees with
whoever's in front of him. But he acts like this
is the strongest he's ever felt about this thing. And
then he's always articulated.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
He's super holier than now on how people need to
handle situations he's never been through. And I get it,
like we give a lot of takes and a lot
of opinions on how people should be acting in fights,
But I would never look at somebody struggling through a
real hard situation like this and be like stop speaking.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Also, it's you were speaking about it and it's not
even your fucking life.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, what were you gonna talk about it? But she can't.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
If Britty wants to talk about what she had for dinner,
or what her bowel movements look like, or what her
psycho X is doing, she has a right to do
that because she's living through it. Who the fuck are you? Yeah,
guy with a microphone?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
What's crazy? Is josh Uh like TikToker that who brought
this to my attention. He said that, like Natalie and
everybody else on the podcast, was like interrupting and constantly
being like, you are taking such a wrong stance on this,
and he like doubled down.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
A man will never just shut the fuck up. Here's
the other thing, Natalie, the red flags are fat in
your face, Girly. I actually don't know anything about Natalie
besides that she's married to Nick Vaiel, which like isn't
great in my eyes. But I'm telling you, girly, the
flags are fat and red. Yeah, they're right, They're right there.
Take a big ass look. Your husband, who you have

(53:05):
a child with, is literally like, Brittany should shut the
fuck up right now because the minute something happens to you,
he's gonna turn on you too. He's a man, sympathizer.
He's literally a terrible man. I and you know what,
you know how I said, there's a all terrible men
can be put in either the loser category or the
weirdo category. Nick Fayel is the biggest of both.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Like he's the center of the diagram.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
A fucking loser to the point that he has become
such a weirdo.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, that's such a good point.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
He started as a loser and he has turned into
a fucking weirdo. He is if Donald Trump and Elon
Musk had a baby, it's Nick Bayel.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
And imagine, like have you seen his like first bachelor photo,
Like it is so bad, it is so weird. Now
he is a loser. You're right.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
I don't know how I even I think was he
a bachelor when we were in college or something.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I can't remember because I didn't watch. I don't think I.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Watched it all the time. My roommates would watch and
I'd be like, who's this fucking loser crying dude.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
He is the epitome of like, if you have money,
you can make yourself like better looking, because he was
terrible looking and he's like mediocre now like with like
he's tons of money.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
He's a loser of a man. I swear, I don't
know how the girls on the Bachelorette weren't like, yuh,
we are all going to put this Alicia.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
What's crazy is he was a runner up on both
the seasons he competed in, but.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
He never won because there was a big red fucking
fanass flag in everyone's face, and it's this, it's does
he have a daughter? Too?

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah? I like, would you really want that for your daughter?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
No? Thank the Lord Jacks had a son and not
a daughter, because, oh Nick, I if there is one
person I will always have internet beef with, it's fucking
Nick Mayel. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's
uneducated on all things, including real life situations. He has
no ability to see empathy from anyone else's point of view.

(55:11):
He constantly makes this big proclamation on his opinions, puts
whatever's right in fuck in front of him, and then
he just agrees with that, and he can't learn to
just maybe stop, take it to a step back. Everyone
else says, hey, shut the fuck up, and he's like, no,
I'm gonna keep going. He can't actually listen either, so
he is just such a fucking loser of a man,

(55:31):
and I hate him.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I hate him. I just had this thought, my worst
case scenario right now, because he always does those Bravo
like interviews, is him having Jesse Solomon on.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Has he not already no like about.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
His like recent issues, especially with the last two weeks
of Summerhouse, Like that would be terrible?

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Well, no, everyone stopped listening. I aglee he's not even
asking like good interview questions, Like he's just you're not
even like finding anything out. Because I've listened to a
few interviews right of people, I was like, oh, maybe
he doesn't actually like ask anything. He just like kind
of takes whatever you're saying and then agrees with you

(56:16):
and then like ask you a question about that. But
I want like a little bit of pushback, right, Like
I want a little bit of like, let's get questions.
The worst was Monica from Salt Lake City, when he
literally couldn't like comprehend that, Okay, what Monica did was wrong,
but for TV purposes it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah, And he like took it personally because he's like,
I have trolls and they're mean to me too, And
oh my God, I bout you.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
It's led by me. I'm your biggest troll. I hate you.
I hate you, and I wish nothing but the worst.
And Natalie, I'm telling you run run, Oh my.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
God, run her a track star, Please become one.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Oh my god. I'll pick you up. Girl. Let me
know I'm here.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
For you and your dog. You can't go to LA
because if that man dies, he will be God.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
How old is he? His life is? He's in for
a while.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
He's in his forties.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
We got years with this guy. Huh, Jesus, I know
she was. She was ninety five.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Anyway, Well that's all my news. Sob oh, what I
told you?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I had some basketball news.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
I just assumed you would have gone right into it
with your small celebration.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
No, you went first for news, and I was like,
I could do news, I guess, but I told you
I'm going to keep you updated on all the news. Okay,
So do you know how Angel Reese is?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Yes, of course she's she's.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Been painted a villain because everyone pits her against Kaylen Clark.
Kaylin has said, we're fine. But I think as a
white woman, sometimes you have to know your privilege, and
I think it would be really nice if Caitlin said
more about it, but like it's also not her responsibility
what the fans are doing, but Kaylyn Clark fans cut
it out.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I think responsibility is the wrong term though, like she
doesn't have control over what people are going to do,
and I think she often comments when always says really
out of control.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
She always says she's fine with Angel for sure, which
I'm very grateful for. But I listen to Angel Reese's
podcast because she's a podcasts and oh my god, this
poor girl. I forget how old these girls are, mostly
because they're all That's.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
What makes me really sad.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
They're all six foot and they're all professionals at this point,
so they see my age, but they're actually children. She's like,
I'm twenty three and sometimes I need to turn off
my social media because people are just really mean. And
she posts a lot like on she didn't say it
like that, it wasn't like boohoo.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Me, but she was just speaking on it, like saying
it's like overwhelming, it's overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
And she doesn't post basketball on her Instagram because she's like,
this is my personal brand and like basketball is my job,
and she's like, ooh, it's given me opportunities like I'm
gonna post my sponsorships and I'm gonna post me going
to like have on vacation, like yeah, And she's even
said she's like I have like a bang and body
and I'm twenty three.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
So the wait. I love that because I do get
annoyed when professional athletes only post their job because I
want to see the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I want to see it. That's she's selfish at me,
but she only posts like her regular job. She'll post
like first game of the season, but she's not gonna
post like her practicing and stuff, and people, I guess
get really mad and when they see her like on vacation,
the comments are like, this is why you suck at
basketball because you're not practicing. And she's twenty three, you guys,

(59:44):
that's so sad.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I don't get how people can't discern that, Like just
because you're not seeing something doesn't mean it's not happening.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
No, And she's one of the best players in the
league as her as a second year, like she's a
top name.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
She has more crazy her.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Instagram followers than Kaylen Clark. Like she's making fucking bed here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
It is clear as day, like a case study of
people who hate women, and especially people who hate black women.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Like clear as days, she can do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
If she posted her practicing twenty four to seven and
only posted about basketball, people would still be ripping her.
She's only showing that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yeah whatever, no terrible. There was also a rookie she
got drafted. Her name's Georgia Amore. A little about her.
She's five foot six.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Why kind of short?

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
No? Red of No, so short? You should have seen her.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
And a half so she's seen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Her at the draft. She didn't want to wear heels.
She was heads shorter than all of the page Beeckers
is six foot so like the two of them next
to each other was great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Did other people wear heels and so it made it
even worse.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Some of the talls did, which made it worse. But
Georgia is tiny. Five six is crazy, but she's really good.
She played for I think Kentucky and she was the
sole reason they made it as far as they did.
She put that team on her back at five six
and fucking destroyed wild crazy but she just tore her

(01:01:20):
acl sad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
I know, Alicia, they are doing there's been studies about
ACL tears and like knee injuries with women. But they're
starting another study about it connected to hormones and like
cycle tracks, yes, which I think is amazing, Like I
never thought about that, Like that might be connected.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Fun fact, I think like seventy percent of all ACL
tears around women, but yeah, six percent of studies have
been done on women. So like we don't actually know,
but like I could just tell you. I mean a
few weeks ago or a month ago, Juju Watkins tour
her ACL and now we got Georgia Amore tearing her ACL.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
It's a big thing in soccer too, Like, yeah, they are.
They frequently tear in term multiple times.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
I think Meganina Regan Rapino has done has done twice.
She's torn it twice at this point, so yeah, wild,
but I wish her the best. She could have been
so good. I'm just disappointed. I'm sad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Was it in like a practice? How did it hap?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah? They have training camp right now, so basically each
team has like I don't know, like anywhere from like
sixteen to twenty something players that they invite to training camp.
And this could be like veterans people they picked from
the draft people that like they reach out to after
the draft that they're like, hey, just come to this
training camp because it's it's hard because you can only

(01:02:39):
get twelve spots on your roster per team, and there's
only like ten teams, so really.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Like it's hard twenty people, Yeah, it's really.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Hard, or maybe like fourteen, it doesn't matter, but like
you really don't have a lot of teams, and so
you also have to build, Like, Okay, if you have
some of your best players, like you have a Kaitlin Clark,
you then need people who can play the paint, right,
So even if you have one hundred great shooters from
the outside, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Need the all nnart. Yeah, so you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Try and like build your team around the people you
know you have for sure who works best off each other.
So you buy all these people to training camp. So
it's really sad you get drafted to a team and
then like you might not even make it. So then
they do training camp and by the end of training
camp you need your roster of twelve, and then from
there you could be like, Okay, we want to keep
these people on our reserve in case like we go injuries.

(01:03:27):
But everyone then is a free agent if they haven't
been signed. So it's just sad because I think she
would have made the roster and now she I mean,
the mystics will still hold her through her recovery. But yeah,
very sad because I do think she would have made it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
It just I feel like she then is skipping out
on that first year in the w and getting gonna
come back injury. Yes, so like when she rolls into
her next training camp, like that's just hard because you're
a year behind of your peers and you don't even
have the excite coming off of the draft to like
kind of hype you up and give you the confidence.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
But I know it was very sad, but yeah, all
the best wishes to her and her recovery and I'm
excited to see her come back next year. Okay, now
we're gonna gossip a little bit because you know, I
love the tea. So guys, my algorithm on TikTok is fixed.
I don't get those traps of page papers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Where you can and she's back baby.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Thank god. But I still get updates occasionally. So yesterday
I was just scrolling, I was I was bedrotting, and
everyone's freaking out that like remember Asy, the page's potential girlfriend,
which I don't care if they're dating or not, but
I'm going to talk about it because I find it
very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Again, we are on the fanfic type of time about it,
you know, like that's what this is. We're building our
TV show out and so some of this may be true,
some of this may be false, but we're just building
a TV show. This is research and development. Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
They don't have to ever confirm it to me. I
don't care either, live your life. I though gonna think
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I think we need to start calling gossiping research and
development as if we're creating a TV show. Literally, anything
we talked about this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Is r Indeed, Also, as a self proclaimed gossiper, I
don't always care if it's like one hundred percent true.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I'm gonna tell you, tell me a good story.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you what I found. Anyway, So
everyone's freaking out because Asy is wearing a necklace, and
I was like, why is everyone freaking out over a necklace?
Because there was already okay, so easy. This is how
deep by mam and Lore. She used to wear this
like one heart necklace. I don't know, but then everyone
freaked out and around Valentine's Day because she had a
different heart necklace and then the really deep people were like,

(01:05:44):
this is foreverlasting love. Did Page give it to her?
And everyone was like I was like, I don't care
either way, I'm gonna believe it. Yeah, anyway, So then
she's a new necklace on, so I was like, is
everyone freaking out over this heart necklace? But no, it's
a necklace with the number number five, which is Page's number,
and then like it goes into like a half heart,

(01:06:05):
so like almost like it honestly looks kind of like fifty,
but you know, it's like not you know, from far away,
I was like fifty, like fifty s like I don't
but no, it's a five with a little heart. I
was like, whoa crat crazy right because this girl is
she is claiming her girl. She's like lesbian's back off,

(01:06:26):
this is mine and I respect the hell out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
And it's like I got some money, like she already
had money, but it's like I just went through a
big moment. Let me treat my.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Girl like, well, well, it get the lower got deeper
because I went I went to the comments obviously, and
everyone was like, shout out, I remember some girl like
for the necklace, and I was like, why is this
random girl being shout like what?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
And so yeah, is it the person who like made it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
So I go look and then this girl is like
she posted a TikTok like oh my god, I that's
the necklace I mean, And I was like, wait, she
said something like that, like I designed something weirdly like that,
and I was like, is she a jewelry designer like me?
Being hey weird because she's She then made a comment
about how like Page got the necklace in October that

(01:07:15):
she had designed, and I was like, cue, was she
just holding on you like waiting for the draft?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I'm like, well, did this person get paid to commission it? Like,
did Page ask for it or did this person crazy
just like a fan creation and they just sent it
to Page? Like who is the one who wanted this
necklace made?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Literally? I thought Paige had like gone to get it
designed for Easy. Yeah, So I was like, that's so cute. No, no, no,
this fan gave it to Page, and Page from my knowledge,
has never worn this necklace, but now Easy gave it
because why would she wear her own number? That's crazy,
you know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yes and no, But I think it's crazy to do
it now when you maybe don't know what number you're
gonna have, because what if she joined a team with
someone who already had her number? Like yeah, but like
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I feel like I wouldn't wear my own number on
a necklace, like maybe I would get it tattooed, be
like oh memorieser, But like I don't think if I'm
just walking around every day, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Think it's an everyday piece. I think, like the SPS,
you might like wear your number and like flash and
like flaunt your stuff, like I think guys do it
more often, but it's not an everyday piece of jewelry.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
That's for Page is also very humble. I couldn't see it,
being like I don't think she ever would with a
half heart that's like ruins it. Yeah yeah, but give
it to your girl, be like yo, because she had
number five on Dallas too. You want it? And the
girl was acies like give me it, and she was.

(01:08:46):
She weren't in a TikTok with Sunny Lee, the gold
middleist Olympian, so we all saw it. Oh my god,
those two were doing together a collab. That's crazy. I
need more on Sunny Lee and a The fuck are
you two doing together? I gotta know? Also, those two
like standing near each other. He got a basketball in

(01:09:07):
her gymnast. I immediately was like, back to back, go
back to back, go back to back. So I could
see it because some of these people are huge, and
I'm like, you wouldn't think. I know, Juju Watkins is
six to y'all. I was watching one of her games
and I'm like, tinormous. Why is she getting rebounds?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
That's interesting. I'm really a really bad judge of height
from those on a TV screen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Same but then you see, like this is my other
funny bit if you know the lore. There's an announcer
on ESPN. Her name is Holly Rowe.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
She's oh my god, I love her.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
I love her. But she made a comment this season
that I was like, okay, girl. She It was at
one of USC's games, so Juju Watkins was playing, so
like all the southern California came out, and I mean
like there were a lot of famous people there, like
Snoop Dog, like I don't know, other like very famous
black Peace people and Holly Goes. We're like at the
BET Awards and I went, oh, no, oh, that's crazy,

(01:10:09):
terrible joke. It was meant it was just a joke,
but I know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Anyway, and not all jokes gotta be said.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Holly is famously about five to four.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yes, that's the thing. I loved watching her with a
basketball player because she often came to Kansas games and
would do the reporting for that, so I saw her
a lot when I was in college and seeing and
like seeing the guys like hunch over to like get
to the microphone is so funny to me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
My favorite is because women are shorter than the men usually. Yeah,
but at the w NBA Draft, she's not really wearing
super high heels because she has to stand there and
interview and the camera will just cut her out, so
it's like a corner of the top of her head
because you have to get the player in and Holly's
just you can't even see her mouth moving, but you

(01:10:57):
just hear her talking. And I was like, get her
a box, what are seriously? But it's my favorite bit.
Every year, without fail, Holly stands there, it gets cut
out of frame or like it gets cut at her
like chin, and you're just like, what a.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Damn, that's so disappointing. She said that comment because she
is like one of the women who was like a
sports reporter before, you know, it was more accessible to women.
I would say, like, it was always like, really impressive
for her to be out there. She's a Grammy that Really, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
A Grammy Award winner for sports reporting.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
I didn't either, but they always were like, is it Grammys?
It has to me, but they always kept it has.
I thought it was a joke where they'd be like,
Grammy Award winner and I'd be like, weird.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Interesting, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
She's a Hall of Famer. I don't know, it might
be hall of famer. I might get fucking this up
because I was like, would she.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Do anytime anything about her? I'm gonna be oh, Grammy
Award winning Holly Row.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I'm spreading. See this is why I told you. It's
not accurate news. It's just things that are happening. She's
a Grammy Award winner and as he's wearing a fifty
on her neck, so get right. But yeah, can't wait anyway,
that's my that's my gossip.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I love it reading. Did you read anything?

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
No, I'm so depressed. No, I'm not really. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Welcome to my life of reading.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
I'm hoping to sorry y'all our book club for the Patreon.
I'm gonna message you. I just gotta get out of
a depresso mode. I'll get there and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Then she'll be She'll be back baby.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Actually a book club on Patreon. If you're listening to this,
could y'all suggest some books that are going to get
me out of my depression? And we can do that
for book club because I'm a little stuck because I've
been kind of feeling this for a long time and
the past like four books I've read have been struggle.
So I need suggestions. Actually, that's what is at the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Top topic or the writing style that you think.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
No, I've done fantasy, I did a rom com, and
now I'm kind of doing like a Wellnt Welless fiction book.
I'm still in that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
The couple who sleeps apart. Yeah, all of them are
a little rough.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Okay, so I have to get Alicia out of her depression.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Yeah that's the mission anyway. Sorry, we love it. Great.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
What are you watching? I've got a lotzy I first
up want to talk about Survivor because we're this week,
we were down to the final I think eight, Yeah,
I was eight. Because there's like I'm not going to
list these people because it doesn't matter, but I want
your take on how these players are playing because it
kind of pisses me off when people do this. So

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within our eight, we've got four people who are like
really strong, really big competitors, like the obvious threats, and
they've linked up because they're like, we want to play
with people who are really strong, like we want to
go to the end and like beat the best. And
there was another guy who was a part of them,
but he kind of became a jerk and so they
like kicked him out last week. So we're down to
those four strong physical threats love to play the game.

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And then we've got the four I'm gonna call them floaters.
And so the four physical threats, one guy is like
really strong with one of the floaters, like they're actually
each other's number one. So they've been trying to kind
of like play this incognito game basically the gaining you
and I would play where you're actually really close but
nobody knows it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
And then the other three are just kind of out
there and they know that they're like the next to
be picked off obviously, but they like won't trust each other,
Like it's clear it's four v four, Like you should
vote for somebody into strong people because that's your only
chance to really win this. You're not gonna be able

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to beat them out. You've got to link up together.
But there's one guy in the like floater four who
is like, I don't trust these people, Like he's kind
of close to the strong people, so yeah, he would
probably make final six, But what are you going to
do from there? Like, what's the point of making it
two more weeks to have no shot at the finals?
They're not going to take you, Like they really respect

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playing against the best, like it. They talk about it
openly too, So why wouldn't you be with the four floaters?
Would not would not link up with them so they
could not make anything happen. And one of the like
floaters gets voted out, Like what is your take on
your fluff? Yeah, who like play against their own interests

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for like pride.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
I truly think they're just delusional, like they don't actually
see it in front of them, which means you're bad
at the game. Like that's just what that means. The
fact that you can't really see it means you're bad
at this game. I think what they're thinking when they
play against their own interests is like, Okay, I can

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convince the strong people or like the group to let
me in or like it, because it's not gonna be
me they vote out right, it's gonna be someone else.
So I live in a they're not playing the long game, which.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Is like, yeah, I feel like they're like, oh, I'm
not that big of a threat. So at some point
they will break apart. And it's like you're sitting there
waiting for somebody to pick you to play this game.
But you just got to take it by the balls
and play it yourself at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Yeah, or you just know you're gonna lose, so you're
giving up. That's the thing is if you, if you
like clearly play against your best interest, I think you're
a bad player. Are all of all of the good
players of all of these types of games will do
anything to stay alive, even if they end up going
home or losing. They'll try it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Just that's what it is. It's like you're you're scrappy.
You're trying whatever you can to get yourself another day
forward constantly, and you're gonna keep talking to people and
keep coming up with plans and strategizing. Like this guy's
just like laying down being like I don't trust you,
I won't work with you. It's like, I'm sorry, but
this is a game of like nobody really can trust
anybody by you back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
It brings up kind of like the Taylor Hail from
Big Brother effect, where like you just gotta stay scrappy
and see what happens and then you could win. Like
at least she didn't roll over and stop trying like
she she would work with anyone at that point to
just get another week.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Yeah, even if they had like burned her the week before.
It's like, listen, I gotta I gotta take whatever road
I can.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Yeah, So like these people aren't just playing for like
another week, they're just like not playing at all. You're
just rolling up so annoying. I'll just like I'll let
it get out of my hands. I'll let the tribal
gods handle it. Whatever you deserve to lose.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Then, yeah, I will say the like really strong four.
They're really fun to watch because typically in the New
Age Survivor, they will be given at one of the
immunity challenges an opportunity to set a certain amount of
people out to get rice because these people aren't given
food the same way they used to be. And half seasons,
like the early New Age seasons, people would sit out,

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like you need like three or four like a certain number. Lately,
it's like no, these people will not sit out. And
this particular week when they got faced with that opportunity,
a lot of the people were like no, Like I
came out here to play this game, like I'm not
missing a second of it, and I was like I
love that. Yeah, they've got seven more days whether these

(01:18:26):
people make it or not. They're like, I want to
soak up every opportunity. Only one person wins this, So,
to be honest, majority of the rest of the people,
you're getting the experience out of this, Why wouldn't you
want to play some of these gates, Like you're never
going to get to do this again?

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Yeah, I think like if I would never go on Survivor,
but if I went on one of these shows, I
would try my best, but the whole time I'd be
like who really can because at the end of the day, like, yeah,
would I want to win? Sure. At the end of
the day, though, it is just a game, and I'm
just here to like have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Yeah, Like like not everybody gets to play Survivor, like
play the game each competition, Like that's one thing that's
different about like Big Brother to Survivor. Everybody plays basically
everything in Survivor.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Yeah, which is so yeah, great, you know what this
person deserves. You know what I'm rooting for. I don't
even watch this season, but I've heard from multiple people
it's pretty good. I want the person who has a
number one in the Big Four but isn't a part.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Of the Big Four to oh Camilla. Yeah, I want
that person to win. She's on my draft team. I
want her to win. To her and her body in
the Big Four, Kyle like he's more committed to Camilla
than the Big Four. And I love their relationship, like
they're they're trying to like make some stuff happen and
it's really interesting to watch them play.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
I'm rooting for that because I think that's perfect. It's
like you're kind of the underdog, but you could.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
That's the thing. Camilla is the one who was like
really trying to work with those three floaters, yeah, to
be like we got to do something in Kyle like
support it, but he was like, I can't be so
overt because I'm with the like the strong people, but
that I will set you up for success with these floaters,
like he pissed them off. He like didn't invite them.
On the reward, he was like, I want them hungry
and mad because I need them to cause a riot.

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Then they could do it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Which is so dope too, because you know, then Camilla
is gonna want to play the game because now she's
out numbered, and yeah, sure she is Kyle, but then
you have these other three that at some point it's
gonna be five and you gotta you gotta play your
ass off then to and then you gotta really trust Kyle,
which is gonna be scary, or you build a relationship
with someone else behind Kyle that like you could play

(01:20:37):
a lot. Camilla has the opportunity to really play a
game now because she's the underdog.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
In this and I think that she still has a
chance with the rest of the floaters because Kyle could
swing over and it could be a four versus three.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Kyle could burn a vote, make it three verts and
just see what happens. You don't know, you don't know
what could happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
I know it's gonna an end. Really well, there's still
a lot of like of those like hidden things and
like advantages in play and like really strong players but
really second players. I'm like really excited for this time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
A hidden immunity idol is known to change a game. Yeah,
my favorite. I still get clips about it. Who was it?
Those like everyone voted for the same person, say like
two people and they both had hidden immunity idols, and
then there was one vote for one other person and
then they like went home, and I was like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Genius, It's that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
That's the gameplay. I love. Never stop because even there
have been times when there's just two people who constantly
get votes who might be out at some point, they're
all the rest of the ten people on the island
are against them, and it's like, nah, those two make
it to the end, baby, you never know, you never know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
That's what I'm hoping for that, you know, strong versus
floaters duo.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
I love that great. Well, maybe I should watch I
could brain rot to survive.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
You could you could pick it up now, because like
I've given you all the details you really need. Viva,
that woman with autism is still on there. She's got
a lot of advantages. Her buddy Joe is her Boddy
still all they're in. They're in the strong group, and
so it's like hard to like root against them, but
you still want like the good game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
They're both in the strong group.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Yeah, Like Joe was supposed to leave this week, that's
like what a lot of people wanted, but he got
the immunity idol. He won the competition, and so that's
what also crumbled the floaters is they were like, oh,
if it's not Joe, then like I don't want to
send this person home. Yeah, person home.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
I see. I like that duo. But you're both on
the same alliance. I love a sneaky little link, you know, Like, yeah,
I love that Kyle's dedicated to it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
That's me too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Best, that's the best. It's yeah, that's awesome. Ten out
of ten. I might, I might get into it. It's
supposed to rain all weekend here, I might.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
You should because I think we only have like three
more weeks, so you don't really have to keep with
it for too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Long, I might well see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
All right, Well, to stick with like competitive gameplay, I
put on Netflix's version. I'm gonna call it of the Traders,
like well, I'm gonna say their competition with like you know,
bringing like what the Traders is to like Bravo and NBC.

(01:23:22):
It's called battle Camp. It's giving that Disney Channel games
that we used to have.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Is that the one with all the Netflix stars that
come back?

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Yes? I actually, Alicia, I think you'll like this because
there are some annoying characters, but you don't have to
sit in all their background like these people just like,
come on, it's similar.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
I already have sat through it. I've already sat through
your background.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Well, I haven't like because there's a bunch of new
people have no clue who they are, but I don't care.
It really doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Like what shows, I saw that girl from Cheer Gaby
but Gabby.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
There was a girl a few people from like Too
Hot to Handle.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Yes, the selling OC people are on it. I never
watched that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Wait, that's the spinoff? You're right?

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yeah? And then so we got people to handle battle Camp.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Okay, I'm an Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
So the premising though, is that all these people from
all the Netflix shows come and there are three like groups.
It's three groups of four and so it's randomized who
is on what team and it's clear like they're all
from different shows at the beginning. And you compete in
a challenge each week, and the winning group of the

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challenge gets immunity and is safe from any elimination. The
middle group nothing happens to them. The last group automatically
up for elimination, and then there's some other things that
happen in between that can get your name up for
a victor, like elimination two, and the whole entire camp
votes on people, but again you cannot vote in the

(01:24:58):
winning team. Oh so from there, once everybody is voted,
there's like an in between thing that happens, and like
the people who lost the challenge, all of their names
go up on this wheel. So if you lost the challenge,
you get voted in and something happens to you like
that in between things, your name could be up there
like twenty times. Okay, well twenty times is a bit much,

(01:25:20):
but it's on this it's on a giant wheel that
gets fun. So I think the max is let's see,
there's twelve people voting, four people automatically get put up.
That's sixteen. I think eighteen slots are on the wheel
at the first half of this, and so you could
be up there for like ten of them. No fuck yes,

(01:25:43):
and the wheel they spin the wheel and that's who
goes home. Like your name could be on there once
and you go home.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
So it's lost.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Oh fuck a little bit, which kind of makes it
fun because you like don't want to throw in certain
you don't even want to like throw a rogue vote
out there if you don't mean it, because there's still
a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Oh you don't want to burn votes. That's interesting. Did
you know that there's six seasons of Too Hot to Handle?
I don't think I saw pass too.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
No, I don't. I've never seen one in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Okay, yeah, I know a good amount of these people.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Who actually that's the one where you like can't touch
each other, right, yeah, Okay, I saw the first season
of that. I always get that and perfect match confused?

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
What's her nuts from Love is Blind? The Me and Girl?

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Okay, this is where I want to go into Alicia.
If you're gonna watch this, I won't. Yeah, if you're
gonna watch this, I won't really spoil this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
I don't care if you spoil it, Like, okay, I
have to be so honest.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
This I was one hundred percent gonna spoil no matter what,
because I, you know, will never be liked by anybody
on TV or I'm gonna just be honest in social situations.
She's a bitch through and through and these people literally
wanted to vote her out because like she has poorly
time jokes, she's just rude. Like in all the other votes,

(01:27:00):
people were like, oh, I want to get out someone strong,
or this person's pissing me off of my own group
because you can vote for your own team, which is
like diocal.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
There are six seasons of The Circle. When did we
stop watching that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
I can't believe there's not more to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Probably around season three or something. And then really quick,
this guy Nick, why do I see? Why does he
look like someone I've seen all the time, But he's
only been on two seasons of stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
I know he just showed up on the show for me,
and I was like, I don't know this man.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
I definitely watched his season of the Circle.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Oh, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Is that where he's from.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Sorry, yeah, he's from the Circle originally, and then he went,
yeah they give you. What's nice is they do give you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
He was a woman in the circle and now really
because he was like trying to flirt, well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
He's like perfect for this. It kind of gives me.
I feel like Battle Camp gives me kind of like
what the challenge was early on, where all those people
from Old Rules and what's it called real world, like
they all kind of knew each other or like some
people had connections. It's kind of nice because you all
have like one or two people from the same show.
They may be on the same team, they may not.

(01:28:13):
So those type of alliances kind of influence how people
are voting or what they're doing. So it's fun to
kind of see strategy and play while the randomness of
the wheel being the decision that people kind.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Of like that. Okay, and shoe Bomb from the season
one and we all watch we all watched during COVID
and we all fell in love with shoe Bomb shoo Shoebom.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
No, his season was on before COVID. His his season
was on well before that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Oh maybe I didn't watch until COVID because I remember
being in my COVID apartment watching shoe Bomb.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Alicia.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
He shoe Mom, is it it can't be saying.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
No, it is, No, it's shoe Bomb. They call him
shoeby on both shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Shoo bey, that's what we called him. But he lost
to that guy, Joey. I'll never forget.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Yes, okay, he's the same personality type Alicia on Battle Camp.
I think you're gonna love it. And midway through they
get rid of the three teams and they go into
two teams and they draft them and shoot me as
the last, and he goes, I'm okay being picked last,
you know, like I'm not a threat. Then and then
it is in his interview he pauses and he's like, Okay,
maybe not all the time I want to be picked last,

(01:29:25):
but like in this situation, I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Oh my god. He's like, it's okay. It didn't hurt
my feelings. He's so cute anyway. Tell me about Irena.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Okay, So Irena is useless to her team obviously, but
just like fit still okay. Not all of these are
like super fit competitions. They the competitions are kind of weird,
but I really like the diversity in what they do.
Like one they had a punishment challenge where they like
gave all four people, like all four people of each

(01:29:55):
team would stand up there, only one person would get
a punishment and you had to like act everybody would
act like they were getting the punishment, and then they
had to pick who actually got it in you know,
whoever got it right or wrong. Points were divvied out
they so there's like weird competitions, Like there was a
spelling bee, like similar to the challenge where it's not
always about strength all right, But there was like one

(01:30:19):
where somebody was like in a cabin. One person on
each team was in a cabin and the three remaining
people were on a plank and you had to just
pick what the person in the cabin would say about
the team, like who was the biggest, ego, who is
the best? Ally, like you had to like know your players.
So there's not really strength here.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Listen me. I love to think could I do that thing?

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
And you can do the games?

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
A spelling b is not something I could ever.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
Work, okay probably, But also the the beginning ones were
very easy, Like ocean was a word.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
I once got out on a spelling bee because of
the word guard god I spelled it gard. I was
in fourth grade.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Some people had those moments. But okay, So they're doing
the one where they're on the planks and you know,
they have to decide who the person in the cabin
said the biggest one comes up is ego, And before
they decided like who the roles were, Irena was like,
I don't think I should do it because like, I
just don't really trust myself. I don't have confidence. And
Gabby Butler was on our team to cheer a girl,

(01:31:19):
and she's like, hey, no worries, but also like we
would rather you go into it with full confidence and
just try your hardest and lose, yeah, than to not
be confident in yourself, Like it's okay to lose, but like,
stop this back and forth crap. So they get up
there and they're on the planks and the ego question
comes up and it's Gabby Butler Irena in this guy.

(01:31:41):
I don't know who the guy is, but it's clearly
the guy Like I don't know him, and I'm like, yeah,
he has the biggest ego. After watching like two episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
I mean he's a man.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
So she sits up there and IRENA's like, no, it's me.
I'm the biggest ego. I'm so loud, and Gabby's like, hey, babe,
it's not about being loud. It's like, this is the question.
She takes the flag and like that says like who
is picked? It's not her, So they like lose the point.
They constantly are losing points because of her. So the
whole Yellow team is pissed off by her. They're like,

(01:32:12):
we would rather kick her out because when you kick
somebody out, you get a new team member, like you're
not down numberly, so like it's worth kicking out your
own team member sometimes if they suck. So the Yellow
team is like ah, but like they're genuine nice people,
Like they're like I feel bad, like I don't want
to do that to her. I don't want to betray
a team member that's not like us, stop it. So

(01:32:33):
they'ressed about that. But the rest of the camp hates Irena.
They're like she's so rude. She like says the rudest jokes,
Like they're like, I'm done with her. The whole camp
votes for her, like everybody but the Yellow team and
then the Yellow team is like, we got to vote
for her too. Everyone votes for her and no one
says anything. Like Irena keeps trying to ask people all day,

(01:32:55):
like who are you going to vote for? And they're
like I don't know, like I think this person and
this person. Like everybody's just like giving her the run around.
They go to the wheel, because you don't know who
people voted for until you go to like this wheel
ceremony thing. So you go to the wheel and there's
already four people who like lost the challenge up there.
The Yellow team lost the challenge, so everybody IRENA's team,

(01:33:15):
everybody's already up there. And then there's this like middle
competition thing where two people's names are gonna be up
there too. Okay, so those people get up there. I
don't think IRENA's name was in that. But then the
other slots is everybody who voted, all twelve people. So
the only slot she doesn't get is her vote. It's
like she's like, what the fuck she likes sobbing and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Washs away in this show to like rebuild redeem her
selsion because she went on that what she got married
or she got engaged that I was like, I hate you,
and I was like, well, you're kind of a bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
I literally was like, she will never never have a
good edit because she is a bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Like she sucks, she's she's annoying. Yeah, terrible, and it shines. Listen.
That guy that she got engaged to, wasn't it. I
fully felt that for her.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
I was like, yuck, this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
But she like is mean for no reason.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
But she was like mean to the girls. She just
like isn't a fun person to be around.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
You can tell really insecure because she like doesn't exude
any happiness. She just tries to bring everybody down with
her like it is. I'm like, babe, I think you
need to go to therapy because half of this is
just you're so unhappy and you got to stop chasing
like people's have people's like support and happiness, because they're
not going to give it to you when you're like this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
She didn't go to therapy. She just lost a bunch
of weight. It's one or the other. How you know
who's mentally healthy and then who was like physically skinny?
You know, my god, you're rarely both. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
That's a good point. That's a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
You love yourself or you hate yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
So you go when you're skinny.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Yeah, whatever, crazy, Okay, I'm gonna watch this. That sounds
like a great show.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
It's like it's light and funny, Like the competitions aren't
that serious, Like people are hilarious. Like nobody is truly
that annoying. Even Irena isn't that annoying. It's just like
funny to watch everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Can I say a hot take though? Yeah, And this
is even during cheer I didn't really ever like Gabby
that much.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
You're gonna dislike her aking on this show then, because
she also sobs uh when Irena leaves, and she's like
hyper federlating because she like feels so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
Oh my god. See, I don't know why I didn't
like her on cheer, but I remember like she's like
the best cheerleader in the world. I don't know, which
is surprising because my sister was a collegiate cheerleader, so
I've been around cheerleading a lot, and I can't believe
I'd never heard of Gabby Butler before. But she's like
the best cheerleader in the world. And then I was
like I don't really like her, I don't watch.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Well, this will help you. And this isn't really a
spoiler because this is all over the internet. She gets
out the next episode, and the way she gets out
and what happens is so comical.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
Stepping competition, she does that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
She wins that though, Like that's the in between things.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
All the time snapping competition.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Yeah, that's like there's these like this punishment competition in
the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Of me just shaking me, just shaking my apple lot.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
But no, no, not that. It's like at the wheel,
she gets select Like, she gets selected, and there's this
guy who's obsessed with her Tony. I don't know what
he's from, I forget, but he is like won't stop
hitting on her. She has a boyfriend and he's like
in love with her to like an annoying obsessive degree.
And his friends who are also in her, like Bunk
they're on the yellow team with her, are like, hey,

(01:36:47):
she has a boyfriend, Like, chill out a little bit.
He's obsessed with her. When she goes home, Alicia, he
starts sobbing, Oh my god, sobbing. And what's crazy is
Gaby voted for him to go home. He had most
of the like planks, she only had one and she
went home.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
We have to stop stalking athletes like that is so creepy.
This guy is just like, what's his name.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Tony, Tony, I don't know what his last name is.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Oh, Morgan from Cheer is also on here.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
She replaces Gabby.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Oh. You know what I hate is that Cosmopolitan needs
to get their site under control because I'm trying to
just scroll. It's not shoe Bump Tony. Tony's from The
Mole season two. God, he's scary if he was a new.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
He keeps doing that thing where you like flip your
tongue up and like he's showing his tongue while it's
like covering his teeth and I'm like, stop, you look
so fucking weird. He like sits like this. Oh, I'm like,
put your fucking tongue down, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
He's kind of scary. Like imagine this man stopped.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Wait, Like you're actually gonna like Gabby that episode because
you're like, I feel for you.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
We call the police on that guy. Anyway, agreed, Great,
you watch anything else. The Valley is the I watched
The Valley. I did it. I did that that was
one of my work shows, because as you know, I
watched The Real Housewives of Orange County and The Valley.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
I watched it at work two on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
The Valley. Yeah, it's a good work show because I
don't really care that much.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
It's also really deep and dark, and so I can't
just sit there and watch it for like entertainment. It's no, no,
it is kind of like making me depressed. I'm like,
that's horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
It's not a fun show. No, I don't even know
what happened. It's just like, not a fun show.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Jack goes to rehab and Janet goes to David Buss.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
We went to Dave and Buster. Honestly that I don't
really care about. I don't have an opinion about Janet.
I don't care about her.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
That was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
I was like, we're at the bat.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
I do too, I just I do. I do think
it's funny that everybody hates Jane. She's kind of the
new Sheena.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
I'm gonna end up loving Janet then our tight No no, no,
I know if there's something about Shea that's likable in
the under Janet that's not. But the best was that
one girl what's her name, Michelle. She's sobbing because her
ex said that she like prostituted herself for.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Which like, I would have taken more honey.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
At least at least ten thousand and a hang. But
the best was it would cut to this woman crying
about how her life's ob blah blah, and then Janet
is like, I gotta do the coin Pusher game, which
is my favorite. That's my favorite. David Buster's game is
the coin Pusher. I've won a many tickets on that thing. Listen.

(01:39:51):
I was having a blast with Janet watching that. I
was like, I don't give a fuck about.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
I was dying. It was a juxposition that was beautiful
on my screen.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
I love the idea of a mole in the boys
group chat because it's all of them. It's like, who
is the male? All of you the fought.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Yeah, it's on a lawn. Anybody a happy marriage is
the mole, Let's be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
I also heard that Stacy's husband Bo has been in
the group chat.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
I saw that, and I heard, well, I heard. I
saw a comment that said Stossy made him believe it
because it's so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Yeah, yeah, no, here's here's the thing about dating me.
I don't give a shit ninety percent of what you do.
But you're not going in a boys group chat. You're
not with no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
No, you can be in a boys group chat if
you're talking about like football and bullshit stuff, you're not.
You're not having your friends rag on their wives or
ex wives, especially saying that they're sleeping with a billionaire,
like that's not happening.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
For literally less than a billion which is crazy. No,
that it was all weird. I didn't one time.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
And wait, it's like twenty people, Like, it's not just
like four guys shooting the shit saying dumb comments back
and forth like this is meant to destroy women.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
It's also like not a fun group chat twenty people.
The fuck? But I did see you know that guy
on TikTok subway takes yes. He once asks someone like
a woman, what's your take? And she said, men should
not hang out or like cohabitate or like get together
in groups more than three. What do you Nothing good

(01:41:26):
happens when men get together in groups of more than three. Right,
you get three men, they're easy to take down. You
give them four. It becomes an army. Somehow, and then
we have World War two, Like the fuck nothing good
happens with more than three men together with no womene.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
I agree because I think odd numbers is good because
then you can't have it's like hard to have, like
a true consensus. You're right, like four becomes a bigger vote, so.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
You can't have five because that's too many. We know
it's terrible, So this group chat should be illegal. I
think it sounds terrible. I also don't care that, first
of all, if you're in this group chat, you're a
bad husband. I don't care. I don't agree, I don't care,
you're a bad person. I don't want to hurry.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
You, even if you're not participating in it, like you're
not starting the bullshit about women, you're watching it happen.
I always think the passive men are kind of worse.
I don't want someone who's passive, because that's subtle. Like
I don't know if you're doing that or not. I
need to know that you are so vocal and stand
up for me, for my friends, for everything, Like you're
not going to be a part of that group chat.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
Yeah, you're allowing it to happen, and I'm not okay
with that, So that's terrible. But also I don't I
wish I cared about these people in the valley. I
genuinely don't care about anything.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
I really only care about Kristen Britney, and I love Zach.
I don't know. Something in it in him saying that
he doesn't care about Janet's pregnancy crack me up, because
he can say he wanted the baby to die. It's
not like that. He just doesn't like Janet.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
I'm gonna say something controversial. I don't have to care
if you're pregnant. I don't have to. I'll be nice.
I'll give up my seat on the subway because like
you're caring a big yeah, and I feel that, But.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Honestly, I don't owe you anything.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
If Okay, you're pregnant, yay. I'm not gonna think about
your pregnancy every day. I'm not gonna check in on
you while you're pregnant, unless I, like, I'm really excited
for your baby to be born, which I'm probably not.
I don't know. I hate what it's like. I hate
when it's like, oh my god, everyone has to care
fully and I'm like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
I fully agree with you, because if you didn't care
about your own pregnancy enough to not come on this
show and quote unquote get yelled at, why do I
need to care? Why is it my responsibility to make
sure you don't get stressed out you sign up for
a show?

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Yeah? Also, like we're not friends, What do I have
to care about your pregnancy? I don't, Sorry, I don't care.
It's like, why would I care about a stranger's baby
beyond like, it's a baby. I hope it doesn't get hurt.
I don't actually care about that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
I'm not willing for your baby to get hurt, but
I'm I'm apathetic towards it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
Yeah, it's I'm indifferent towards your pregnancy or baby whatever.
Like sorry, Also, if you hate me, I hate you back,
whether you're pregnant or not. Like it's not my fault
you're pregnant.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
And what bothers me is I know Janet used her
pregnancy as a shield, and I think that's what pisses
me off. She like constantly didn't want people to yell
at her or whatever. But I know she's not gonna
bring that same energy to Kristen him now that she's pregnant.
Like that reunion filmed, and I bet you Janet yelled
at Christen, but like, so do we not care about
Kristen's pregnancy?

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
You know? Actually, you know who I care about, and
I'm sure it's gonna change, but right now, you know
what I care about is Jason the lawyer who just
brings Jacks to his rehab and like eat soup with
the girls or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Did you see the after show comments? I don't watch
the after sho myself on TikTok that when Jason took
Jax to rehab, Jason said like, is there anything you
need me to do? And Jackson's like, actually, yes, I
have a mass scara. I need you to go mail
out because I sold it on eBay. Apparently Jax and
Brittany when they get like PR packages, Jacks will take

(01:45:18):
anything in it and sell it on eBay. Like that's
how strapped for cashy is. He's like selling the mass
scare up. Brittany got like in a PR package.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
I hope Jason was like nothings like.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
No, he didn't, and he took it to be mailed out.
He was like sure, I think he was already like
packaged up. But yeah, he like He's just a.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Good He's a solid man. I I actually really liked
this past episode when Janet was like, you know, and
you can feel however you want about Janet, but she
was like, I love that you took Jack's like you're amazing.
She kind of gave Jason his cookies and he even
said He's like all I did was like drive him there.
Janet's like, yeah, but like you you stepped up and

(01:45:55):
you did that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Yeah, Brittany, And she said like, I don't think he
would have gone had like somebody not take him. Yeah,
it means a lot, like this does have a big
ripple effect.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
I liked that, but all I thought about was how
Janet probably doesn't really love him. So I was like, damn,
didn't she dump her last boyfriend to be on?

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
Okay? I have looked into her because I can't decide
if I want to do a timeline on her. Here
is the mini timeline for the people is she was
married in Ohio. She like married, I think somebody she
grew up with her went to high school or like
college with someone she had known for a while, she
got married. They were married for like two to three years,
get a divorce upon her divorce. She goes to La

(01:46:33):
to like, I didn't like have a divorce trip whatever,
She's obsessed. This is the rumor. This is this is
not factually. This is alleged. She's obsessed with Vanner Pump rules,
goes to La Anne is like so excited, So let's
just listen.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
I'm gonna defend Janet if I'm if I'm married in
Ohio and then I just get divorced. Yeah, I'm going
somewhere too, to maybe be on TV. I'm out, I'm
out ski.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
Yes, So I think she's just one on a trip
and she was like, I want to move here. So
then she moves there and I don't know how hard
she worked to do this. But she meets Sheena. This
is factual. She meets Sheena on a like rooftop pool
party and they become friends, and Sheena is the one
who like intros her to the rest of the Vanner

(01:47:20):
Pump row And people have said that if you go
back to Vanner Pump you can see Gina in some
of the backgrounds, like she was obviously at Jackson Brittany's wedding, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
But Senna never got her dream because she was so irrelevant.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Yeah, she wasn't actually involved in like the Vanner Pump
World to be on that show, but probably was thrilled
when this got picked up.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Good Honestly, I take back when I just said that
I thought she was way bigger stocker than that. She
loves Jason great, yeah, amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Well with Jason, they were friends for like years because
she knew like him through the group. I think actually,
like she and Jason might have slept together. I think
they said that last season on.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
The Who Who.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Yeah, yeah, Jma pause pause, Good for you, Shiina.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
That's a hot guy. I'm I love Shiina. She could
do no wrong. Amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
So Janet and him were like friends in this like
larger group for a while. Janet goes on a trip
for her thirtieth birthday. It's crazy how much is on
the internet, Like why.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Do I know that thirty?

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
Okay, So she goes on a trip with her friends.
I think it was her thirtieth birthday or like somewhere
around the thirties. Love that and she was like I'm
not going to meet someone like YadA YadA yah. And
she was like drunk with her girlfriends on a trip.
Jason sent her an Instagram message like being like happy birthday,
Like she was getting a few of those, and she

(01:48:44):
was like saying that she was drunk. She like sees
it pop up and was like you know what, Like
he's hot, Like why haven't I ever tried this? So
she messages back and is like thank you so much. Whatever.
They're chatting and she's like when I get back, like
we should go on a date. And they go on
a date, and yeah, what, I take back what.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
I just said about Jane. She's amazing. I think I
like Janet.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
I'm not a hater. I thought it was gonna be
a lot more salacious when I dug into it. But
I do especially like us, Like we've talked about going
to La like on a Vanner Pump trip. Like that's
not crazy. We're all like fans of the show. So
if I like popped in and saw like something about
her and met like Katie and Oriana, I would also
try to be friends with them. Like if I met

(01:49:26):
edit the cast of any of these Bravo shows, my
first thing is I'm not gonna fangirls so hard. We
talked about this, We're not talking about it with them,
Like I am just trying to be their friend because
I want to be jan I don't want to be
on a TV show, but I want to infult infiltrate
the group.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Yeah, good for Janet. Yeah, Alli, Yeah, she's living my dream. Also,
imagine we just get divorced in our stupid Midwest state
of Ohio, which I hate. Yeah, I visit, I visit
LA and I'm like, I'm gonna move.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
This is the place I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Gonna infiltrate the group. Good for you, Janet. You had
a goal and you did it. And now, oh hot lawyer,
Oh I'm rue. I'm rooting for Janet. I got to
rewatch the valley now because I'm a Janet stan You
know what, did you just compare her to Jeane Sheena?

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
I did say, maybe that's true. Maybe I will do
the full timeline because maybe this will have an impact
on other people.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
Yeah, let's save Janet from the public opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
This is that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
I stand up bit and I'm I'll say it. I
haven't been totally right, but I'm not that wrong. I
pick a girl, and I know stick fire through the
rough times because sometimes that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
At the end of the time, I think you are
able to see a diamond in the rough like other
people a dog on someone, and you don't just go
with the flow. You're like, you know what, I like
this quality about this person. They do have their issues too,
but you will ride for the qualities.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
I like, listen, if I didn't have anything else to do,
I'm Janet. I'm living the dream of Janet. I I
love that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
And she like had a job when she moved LA,
Like she didn't just come out like try to be
on the show and like float her life or anything like,
and good.

Speaker 1 (01:51:09):
For her being like, yo, let's go out hot lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
And he's like, yeah, Janet, you're hot.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
Let's do it. And then they have a baby and
he's a good guy as far as I can tell
you so far.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
And they like eloped, like she didn't have like a
big second wedding and like was annoying about it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
Good. I love Okay, I take back what I just
said you. I care about two people on the show,
and it's Jenna and Jason. That's who I care. I
don't care about anyone else. And I'm surprised because I
thought I would really care about Kristin. And I don't
care that much about Kristin. I care now about Janet
and Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
I'm excited for like the future, what's happening with Kristen
in like present day, Like I'm excited that she's engaged
and she's having a baby, like she always wanted that,
and I'm like happy she's getting what she always wanted,
so like I see her. I also just I just
it's so funny that Kristin is like the queen of
the valley and is like, literally, don't fuck with me
to anyone. I love that energy that she.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
I mean, I love Kristen. I just wish I cared
about her more in the season, which I don't all
if Britty's accent gets any thicker, someone cut her.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Out before it good. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
She came on to vander Pump and she had like
a thick accent, but it wasn't like crazy, and then
she lost it a little bit. And then she came
back and I need some titles to understand her. And
then she leaves because Jack's got fired, which thank god,
and then she's back on this show and you would
think she's straight from the far. She's been in la

(01:52:42):
for how long, and she is straight. I cannot understand.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
At least ten years, I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
It got thicker somehow. I can't understand her. And it's
almost like it's not even cute anymore. It's straight up
like because I think, how you let's get Maama's bear cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
On d no like her like face like crowns and
it's like kind of weird because of the plastic surgery.
I wonder if her speech is impact.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
I did think about that, and I laughed. I laughed
a little, but I was like, I'm not going to
text her because I want to make a note of it,
and you just sparked my note. I think it is
so funny. This is how you know you have had
bad plastic surgery. If when you're crying, it just looks
like you're laughing, that's bad plastic surgery. And Brittany when

(01:53:34):
like Jason had just left, she's eating salads with the
girls or whatever, and she looks at Cruise and she goes,
I could just cry right now, and her face goes up,
and I was like, what, I laughed through it. I
laughed through the I just.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
If she's on screen, I'm just staring at her mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
Can feel she looks like the Joker? Can she looks
like the Joker? And this is so it's so mean,
and y'all can come at me and tell me how
ugly I am, but at least I am. I when
I cry, it looks like I'm crying.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
I don't. I think the reason I'm like I think
about it or look at it is because I don't
understand how that happens. Like, what did you do to
make it look like?

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
This is so tight? Dude? And there's good plastic surgery?
Like her face is so it's give. Taylor is like
it's like giving like tight, you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Know, and it like messes with how your mouth like
normally moves.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
If that's why she speaks the way she does, I
think it funny. That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
I think the case study to figure out why is
we would have to watch and not the whole episode,
but you'd have to watch that. Remember when Jackson Brittany
did that watch with me three episodes during scandabal. If
you watch that, that's before her plastic surgery, because she
did it right before the Valley started. So I feel
like you can learn that because that was like two
years before the Valley.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
Did she she must have gone to Jack's plastic surgeon,
because there's better plastic surgeons.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
She does, they go, they exclusively go to that person
guy and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
The tvated septim guy. No girl there, Like I said,
there's some good plastic surgery out there. Honestly, whoever does
Kyle Richards plastic surgery which she might not even have something,
but she looks great there there's like good ones.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
They even like Kathy Hilton. Like if you look at
photos of Hilton from now.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
So good, dude, I yeah, like call of someone who
did the Kardashians even like this was bad, this was you. Also,
I think I think you told me that she.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Can't afford a good plastic surgeon.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Because Jackson is out here spending on cocaine and he's
some lift gloss to make up for it or whatever.
But I also think if you don't need plastic surgery
but you get like a really big procedure, I think
it just hits.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
I agree you.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
No, Like Kathy Hilton, she's I don't know how old,
but she has come to the time where maybe she's
like it's time for a face.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
That's is you're like skin stretches out a little bit
and you just snatch it like yeah, I understand, like
at like Britney's age, like our ages, why people are
doing like preventive botox. That makes sense to me. But
like going under the knife and like snatching her face
back when it just like has normal pliability is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Yeah, I don't think so it's not just wait also though, yeah,
if I'm going plastic surgery, I'm spending bank on it
because you can't get it wrong. I don't want to
look like the joker when I cry. That's terrible because
I did laugh. I felt so bad, but I just
could not though. I couldn not like Janet, I don't

(01:56:48):
know if she gets anything done, but she looked very
She looks great though. And then even the other the
brunette twins, they both look great. Who's Brittany going to.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
The brunette twins? Alicia, are Nia and Michelle.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
They look the same. It's white people. I think we've
established white women. I can't tell bart. They all look
the same.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
Yeah. Well, and I say, Michelle is it does have
Mexican in our blood.

Speaker 1 (01:57:15):
But they but they look the same. You cannot yea
And they have the same hair length, they have the
same hair collar, they'd style it the same like.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
It's like like Nia wears it more in curls than
Michelle does. Michelle will typically have it straight, so that
will help you decipher between the two.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
Remember the first season of vander Pumper Roles, I couldn't
tell Katie and Kristen apart because they both had short
brown hair, and they just they were both there. Sometimes
you just need a differential. Thank god Katie had yellow
hair the next season. I know who that was.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
But also their faces kind of look like. Kristin also
is a brunette woman, but I can identify her because
her face looks a little different. If you kind of
put Nia and Michelle together, you could be like, I
disagree with all right, it's just me, I can't tell
white women apart.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
Well, to wrap this up a little bit, are you
listening to anything?

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
I'm not even listening to my nutritionists right now.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
You're depressed. You don't have to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
I haven't eaten all day today, and I was like,
guess who's ordering in and not giving a shit.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
You deserve it. You've had a very big week, both
podcasting and real work and everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
In between and we love it. Are you listening to
anything besides Nick Vayel just kidding? We don't, We don't
support him.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
No. I listened to Amy Pohlar's podcast with Paige and
Hannah and I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
No Amy Poehler had I haven't listened to that one,
but she her first episode, I think, was just a
bunch of comedians that she's worked with. I peed myself,
it was so.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
Funny recommended it to me, not knowing that I was
already kind of planning to listen to the Hannah and
Paige episode, and when she was like, hey, I recommend
this because it's like really fun and upbeat and we
all need that in this time, what I call it
like a good hang good hang yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
Yeah, because she's a giggler, Amy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
Yeah, which is wild. I didn't realize that I loved
that so much, Like she had so much praise for
them and actually knew them. You know when people go
on a podcast and you can tell people just got
like a rap sheet and they just like memorized a
few facts and they don't actually know these people. It
was the opposite, like Amy knew these people, like she
loved their humor, she just loved who they were and

(01:59:36):
I appreciated that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
And she has great I need to listen to the
Quinta Brunson one because she's great. Yeah, I mean, Tina Fey,
Martin Short, Rashido Jones, and these are all people she's
worked with, so she already established. I Barenholtz, who is
absolutely fucking hilarious, Quinta Brunson, Catherine Hahn, who I fucking love,
Jack Black, and then Paige and Hannah, which is crazy

(01:59:58):
because Page and Hannah are like not in horror, with
the rest of these people.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
Not like mainstream, and that's the thing is, I was like, Wow,
they are doing a lot of really cool mainstream stuff
right now, and I'm so happy for them.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
Okay, I think it wasn't a podcast. Maybe it was
a TikTok series or a YouTube thing, but Amy Poehler
had like Rachel Drench and Seth Seth Myers Myers and
like Frank Armison and like there were just all these
like comedians on there. And Rachel was that her name,

(02:00:30):
Rachel Dreads. She's the Debbie down lady on SNL And.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
I can't remember what her name is, but.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
It she was so funny and all Seth and Amy
could do was laugh at her, and she was like,
I'm gonna send you a video because I was in
your This woman during the show ordered door Dash to
her house, so her doorbell went off and she's like,
oh that, I gotta get that. And everyone thought like
someone just showed up at her house. So people are.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
Like, like a surprise guest, Yeah, who was that?

Speaker 1 (02:01:02):
And she goes, I ordered door Dash and they were.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
Like, we're in the middle of something doing this, and.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
She's like, I was hungry. It was so Amy Poler
was just good people, you know. I love that good people.
And so I mean to listen to her podcast too.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
I think it's going to be in a rotation. I've
been kind of off the podcast game, so I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
I didn't do it with this. No, I'm so excited.
Great two night a time. Well love you, Thanks for joining.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
Thanks for joining. Bye.

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