also...Love Island USA S7 Reunion

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it off. Oh no, no, no, crue,
You'll never guess, so sidebar. Yes. And also I feel
like I shouldn't have to remember everything I know.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Actually I have to talk about this three two one.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hi everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, I'm Alicia and I'm Meredith.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
And this is also podcast our Love Island season seven
reunion episode where we're going to dissect it and Meredith,
may I say, for someone who hated this season and
I don't keep up with anyone, I loved this reunion.
It was so good.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
That might that might be a hot take. A lot
of people did not like it.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I liked it maybe because I had the lowest of
low expectation. There were ports that I was like, oh, yes,
here we are.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
There were reports where I was like, why are we
wasting time on this? What the fuck are we doing here?
And then we ended with like, okay, let's chat about it.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I let me paint a picture for you. I was
a little drunk. I was saying extra tired, and I
had zero expectations. I actually was like, I don't want
to watch this. Half of me lon to just log
into this and be like I don't I didn't do it.
I didn't watch it and you can yell at me later.
But that was like, I'm just gonna turn it on

(01:14):
because it's gonna be terrible and at least I'm drunk. Wow.
I was like, this is awesome. I was eating candy
while watching. I thought the experience was great.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay, that was a good experience. I had like a
watch party with friends, so like that made an enjoyable
to like dish about it.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
But I was like, the fuck are we doing here? No?
Watch it alone? Super drunk, full of adrenaline, but also
very tired. It it hit, it hit, eat some candy,
it hit hard. It was great. Anyway, Before we get
into all the ups and downs of the reunion, we
have an Instagram, a TikTok at, YouTube, a Patreon. All

(01:49):
the links are in our description. Check us out, please
be sure to rate, review, subscribe, and with that, I
think we can get going. I took notes throughout the.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do you want me to know? I did? I I
was typing away. I would see that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay, let's just start from let's go chronologically of what
happened then.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So Andy and I are ariana show up.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Wait wait wait, wait, we gotta talk about the cash
showing up. I didn't care about that.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm just saying, tell me about how you entered before
you started this, because before we hit record, you said
that you were upset going into the watching of it.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh oh oh oh, because I I, like I said,
I know very minimal about these people post the villa.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, Alicia does not follow.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I don't know anything. Meredith had to only send me
certain stuff and even sometimes I'd be like, I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Not going to watch that.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I was like with a pitchfork, being like being Nicolandrea
stand not a stand, but like understand it more.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
That was the thing. I didn't even care to do that. Yeah,
but y'all give me a second, you know, give me.
I've changed my tune and everyone hold up. But going
into this reunion, I did see on TikTok that Amaya
and Brian unfollowed each other. I didn't see that one.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Before I checked.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I checked out shocked.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I checked that one when I was drunk because I
was like.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Again, And then I also saw that Iris and Pepe
unfollowed each other. So I was like, what the fuck
if you're gonna break up break up before the reunion
that or.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Like don't do it the day the reunion drops. Can
you give me twenty four hours before you like give
me your news, Like let me you guys did this
a few weeks ago, Like let me catch up and
then you can catch me up on like what else
is happening?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, because then watching it, it's like, oh, well, I
am Brian Wan and I was like.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
They didn't even make it like a fucking quarter.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
All the comments are like Nolan Nolan void, what they've
been up to and like the drama and everything Iris exclusive.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I didn't care. I was like, who gives a.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
F I never cared about them. I'm sorry. I know
I'm a Nicolandrius stand and like I can believe in
things that didn't exist in the villa, but like that
one didn't even give me any excitement either.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think Pepe and Iris were just two hot people,
you know. Sometimes I'm always like, they're just two hot
people who want to That was them, and I think
in the villa they ran out of options and went, hey, man,
let's do U. Yeah, okay, so can we get into
the red I'm not talking about the cashwalking and I'm
going straight for those Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Andy and Arianna show up together.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I liked how they entered after everyone else was already
sitting down, because usually Andy sitting on the couch first.
And they looked amazing. And I loved how they did
a little flirty thing together. And Andy really looks so
proud of Arianna because he built her up. He built
her from the ground up.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
She wouldn't have anything about him.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
People who don't know the Bravo universe, like don't know
the last time Andy was at a reunion with Arianna
and her last two reunions were crazy.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, you're right and she I mean, I
think Arianna did her best in season six, but truly
needed kind of Andy's guidance.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
And I think she she's a TV show host. He
is a has years and years of hosting, but not
just hosting reunion hosting.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
That is a different, difficult skill.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, and Andy does a great job of it.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And for those of you who may not be Bravo,
you should either get into it because it's amazing, or you.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Should not criticize how Andy does reunions because you don't know,
you don't know how good it is.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
This fact is like you're uneducated, So like, take this.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
This was soft, I said our tic tac, this was
a soft ass Andy.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
He was cushy out there.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yes, I will say the cast is cushy to be fair,
but true. The pro is that he doesn't have the
relationships with these people like he does housewives. So that
isn because some of them he gives him passes and
he knows him too well and he has friendships with them,
so like he does have blinders on. But then the
pro of that is he knows them so well so
we can call them out a little bit better, whereas

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he just like watched this for the job. Let's be honest,
Like Andy Cohen is not a sess withall violent and
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
And don't you dare. I saw a creator on TikTok
don't know who, probably scrolled past because I hated her.
She was like, there's no way Andy watched all the episodes. Please,
Andy's a professional. He watched all the episodes and he
loves reality TV. He's gonna watch it just for fun.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
He was watching it before he was He was probably
like asked to do the reunion like over the summer,
way before he was announced, but like he showed that
he was watching it well before he was announced. Yeah,
and he probably gets slim down episodes, like they're gonna
cut out all the stupid bullsh the bullshit, yeah and
give him you know, let's say it's an hour episode,
the forty five minute version.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was great because Arianna has the relationship with these people,
Andy doesn't. I thought that was a great balance ten
because on on Bravo, he's technically these people's bosses in
like a weird way, so they have to respect him
even if he does called their bullshit out. This this
side was a little better anyway. So something in me
was healed me drunk watching that, kicking my feet, being like,

(06:58):
my favorite role is here.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
She went out flipped her hair and did you see
he like fake flipped his hair, and he was like,
let's do the Ariana walk into the reunion.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
They're so cute. Okay, So then Brian I only wrote
down important shit. I'm sure there was other shit. I
didn't care about them saying hi to each other. But
Brian and Amaya are asked about the relationship because there
was like this cheating video. I didn't see it because
I don't with these people.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I had heard like cheating rumors but like like casual.
There weren't like many videos I saw about it. It
was just like, oh, there's a rumor and that's it.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Apparently Brian had a lapse in judgment because he was
pouring shots. Follow this from his perspective, I know that's sign.
I was like, if you don't want your man out
late poring shots, then that's a separate thing. But like,
I don't know how that turns into cheating and that
turns into a discussion you have.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
There that is, can we pretend like nobody knows anything
because most people show up to these things not being
chronically online. So like let's address with the room or
was and then him saying his only laughs and judgment
was the pointing the shots. This is why I wanted
Andy to follow up and be like, so you're saying
we didn't cheat on her, like to be like, let's

(08:12):
be let's say it, did you cheat on.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Her or not? For everyone sitting at home, it's like
we've all poured shots. What are you talking about? I'm like,
what with that? Specifically? Were you like pouring them on
to girls and then taking a body shot?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Like what was That's a good point I got, That's
good point, Like, what's the boundary is it that we
are not allowed to pour alcohol in women or anybody's mouth,
especially women?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah? Or were you attending? Well, I just gotta know.
Because he's an accountant, he can't be on the bar.
I know, I'm an accountant. I can insult.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
She can have a slander on accountants.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
She one like a minority group. We can only insult
each other anyway. Pepe and Iris are exclusive. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
They unfollow each other.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Okay, my favorite thing was and they have different ideas
of what it is you have to ask, but you
could be exclusive to me if you meet my family.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
We're getting married.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
So we're on a crazy reality TV show. We're not
doing the normal rules. So I know you want a
perfect world potentially, and you want to like be courted
and like casually date and then be asked. But this
is a little bit of a fastract relationship.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Ye, so I slept together on day two? What are
we doing here? You know? Like, come on?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
But Iris was filmed by TMZ. She saw TJ. That
was just closure. I guess I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Did they was their cheating rumors there too?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
It was just weird because they were standing outside an
apartment building beat like entire conversation and TMZ was clearly
videotaping them and they themselves. That's that's what people thought
it was. It was like right after they landed in
La she had this conversation, so people thought you was
jumping from Pepe to TJ, but then she was constantly
still with Pepe. Okay that it was kind of it

(10:07):
was weird. But if that was just a combo and
just closer, I guess you needed to do it outside.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Well, Pepe and Hannah also talked and that was apparently good,
so great, uh.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Hood and Chris broke up on that final day.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I loved when she goes, do you do you want
to carry me?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
And he goes, no, I still see he just would
have said will you please carry?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Would would you please carry me? But then they're not friends.
Hud is like, I hope one day we can be friends,
and Chris is like, no, we're This is.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
The snapshot the Hood of Defenders to see and be like,
this is delusion at its finest.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
It was weird to hear that she called him three
days ago to be like, hey, are we good when
you could have called him three days after you left
the villa to be like, hey, are we good?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
It's given, and don't cut all these hooded don't come
at us.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
We know how reunions work. We've put in at least
twenty years of reunions at this point because we were
watching Housewives at the age of ten. That's not an exaggeration.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
We know what it's like to prepare for a reunion
because you want a better edit.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, yeah, and I get that. I understand you're doing that.
But also when somebody calls you out.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
For it, we know what you're doing own it be like, yeah,
I want to make sure we'd have beef at the reunion.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
That is like, I honestly only care that, Like, on
the surface level, we're cool. I don't want to be
but don't do you want to be friends with him?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I love that He was like I don't want to
be friends and she's like, well I do, and he's like,
well I do.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I don't know my favorite and she's.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like this is weird. Yeah, like this is super weird
to be next to you anyway. Then they're like, hey, hoodah,
you publicly walk a red carpet with your new boo.
Tell us about that, and she goes, I can't never
let me. She's like, I'm under an NDA. You are not.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
You're not on a Netflix show. You don't have an NDA.
Louis has an NDA for sure, but that doesn't that
doesn't transfer to you because you banged him.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Netflix made a statement that she has no they are
She is not under NDA. Louis is, yeah, Louis, what
doesn't matter. He is because wasn't he on Perfect Match?
I think something like that, but it was.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Already spoiled by the time they're taping this reunion. Everybody
already knew that they were hanging out and he was
not with his like Perfect Match partner.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Netflix did not. She is such I don't know a
fucking liar.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
That's like twice now we're catching shady ass things and
we're five seconds in.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
She and he loves a deflection, and so like to
try to say that you won't speak about it, can't
speak about it because you're under an NDA. Is crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Netflix should sue her for famine or what is it?
Defam defamation, defamination? Look at me, I'm a dumb ass,
and anything like my.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Favorite thing is anything like listen, tell them that we're
the number one show of the summer. Like the fuck
up Netflix?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Tuly? When was the last time Netflix had a good
reality show? Twenty nineteen with Love Is Blind Season one?
Please God. Anyway, Andrea, they're just loving life. And this
is when I went, I'm kind of into them. Hi,
I love it. They wanted. All I wanted was for
everyone to let me live until the reunion so I
could I know if I liked them as people together,

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because we didn't get that.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
We didn't get we had a we had a long
like in between times. I know it's an ending. So
like I needed you, I needed you to under Everyone.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Need to calm, everyone needs to let me live. It's
giving hood a defender. Okay, let me don't you dare
let you live? Well, take that back, take it back,
take it back. We're never gonna move on with this
unless I take it back. So I take it back.
I'm trying to make a point. Irete me, just you live.
I agree with letting you live, but don't call me
to the level of the hood of Defenders. Anyway. I like.

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IM happy.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
They just they're not rushing it like I think I
think if it was fake they would have or that
they were just doing this like yeah, clout, they would
have been in a relationship, like they would have made
it official and they would be posting it truly everywhere
when ye're just capitalizing on ads. And honestly, Nick is
the one bringing her along on the ride for some
of those ads, and it seems like she's doing the same.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah. No, they they gave. I can't explain it, Like
you can just read body language a lot of the time,
and there was just comforting.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
There's was like the realest. They just seemed really real.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Also, and she is whenever she like.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Talks or like there's something that like he's like proud
of Like it's just the little like smiles he gives.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, I'm in on them. Also, she is fucking gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I couldn't stop looking at her.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
My drunk ass was like I wish I was gay,
Like she's me too beautiful anyway, so beautiful. They did.
They did shout out the people who thought their relationship
was a joke.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Next time, just but I'm I've been converted.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I'm here now. Sierra won't be joining us, which I
did hate because I would have paid big money to
see them go face to face.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I understand, but.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I get it, but I'm glad they're addressing it on
Nick's side at least, because we can't just ignore that
part of it his version of the show.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I agree, Okay, So then did I miss anything? Can
we bring out Clark Tayler as.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Saying there's a reason he's called big Belgian and I
was like, goodbye, goodbye. No, I know, I'm happy for her.
I'm happy for her.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeuck. I hate. If I was on Landry, I would
have been like, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I at my watch party was like and if anybody
was blind, that is how you would know that he
is a white man?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
That no, literally anyway. Can we bring out the next couples?
I guess okay, I like, listen, I I might be dumb,
but I like Clark Taylor, Aston Shelley.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
And they came out and they looked fine.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
And then Ace. Ace is salty, though he says he
thinks this season was based more off favorites than love.
In a way, I think he's right, but he is,
but also that's part of the game too, But he's
got it.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
He is only mad that it happened to him when
he also participated in that happening to other people, And
that's what drives me nuts.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I think he's just so salty about it. He's got to,
like the fuck on.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
The one time to win this shit. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
The one time Austin actually said something on this reunion
is when he was backstage and he goes it's it's
like he doesn't realize he designed this system. Like the
first vote out kind of set the tone, and then
it kept happening and the fans are like, fuck you guys,
you're sending the people. Well, I guess we did also
want those people to go home because we see the vote.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Later, but.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's the ye we got. So then when none of
these couples mean anything to the viewers, we're gonna start
voting for the people we actually like versus couples we
believe in.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I think it was just a weird season where like
none of the couples were like that great. I do
think if we were going based off of love, like yes,
Chris and Hoodis should have been gone, Landria and Nick
should have probably been gone. Yeah, Yet I get that
because I do. I mean, if you look at it,

(17:27):
there's only one couple left standing from the final four,
and there's two couples we voted off that are still dating.
So yes, yeah, this season was not about love.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
But also if it was about love and connection, Hannah
never would have gone home. That's the one I stand
by the most. Like you can convince me Jeremiah was
playing a game whatever, Ace, like, we can have that discussion.
But Hannah, Hannah had Pepe, Hannah tried with Charlie, Like
Hannah should not have gone.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Home, I guess, But I do think that's only different
because like we voted the bottom three and then they reshoes.
No one's mad. No one's mad that Andrea went home,
but she was in a relationship with Rob last season. Yeah,
Jane wasn't right, you gotta it's it's a double one
hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
But the rest of that cast isn't mad that, Like
it's Friendship Island, and like how the people voted, It's
just it's it's I only say these things in response
to Ace saying it, Like Ace is the only one
I'm mad at for saying this.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I think the only difference is like America voted him out,
and like America voted Clark and Taylor out like we didn't.
They didn't have a say in that.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Absolutely, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
But that's that's that's the game. You are also running
toward the public opinion. That's the game. So he's just salty.
I get it. It.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Also, America's voting pissed me off this season. I would
be I would be lying if I send it fu.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
America's voting has pissed you this last year.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
For years, yeah, since twenty sixteen, if you will. Anyway,
So Taylor said, oh, because we got to ask Taylor,
was he really torn between Landria and let's be honest,
he was it. He says he was, but like he
did say he wasn't physically attracted to Alandria. Just own
it and say the second you saw Clark, that was

(19:12):
your girl.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
That is like you can say, like, oh, she's the
one I was the most interested in it. But but
the minute I saw Clark. He should have been honest
with Alandra when she came back in after Cassamore split up,
and and he kind of led her to Alandria to
believe that he had the same feeling related for Clark.
And it's like, no, you you we could tell you

(19:34):
really like Lark.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Also, the thing that drove me nuts this season about
Landria was her chasing around Taylor when he kind of
clearly didn't like her. However, I like her, being like
watching it back, you made me look stupid. I look
like I'm chasing you and I was like, thank you, girl,
I support you. I love that.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, but he was giving her the word saying that
he did like her.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
He was I just I think, just for our perspective,
it was hard for us to be like, no, he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
His actions did not align like that's what she should
have thought because he was saying things and not following
through with stuff that. But I do like that.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
She now is like I looked dumb and I'm like
thank you, and now you don't, which is the best part.
Everyone else does. So then Taylor gives Landria like the
weird World's Weirdest apology where he is a dog, You're
still my dog, and I went you and then goes
should we should we clap?

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I was like, stop, you're making this even worse. You
were making this worse.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Normalize being on a reunion like stage and literally looking
at people like they're weird, like no onees. People should
have looked at taylorm and like stop stop.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I would have been like, that's embarrassing. Why did you
say that?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, who said should we clap? Someone should have been
like that, he feels so uncomfortable. That was funny though,
and he's just like joking, being like that was weird.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Oh what do you want us to clap?

Speaker 1 (21:01):
But the people started clapping, was like, thank you, thanks,
You're still my dog though. Okay, So Shelley and Ace,
let's get their timeline together because there was a lot
of speculation that they were dating.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I never believed that.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I didn't didn't. I didn't care. I didn't care.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I think I saw it and you were like, wow,
is this true?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Like if there's something about me, I love to run
with a rumor when we have no backing and I
say it it's not.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I have no evidence, but I'm going to spread the rumor.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
So they met in New York. They got to know
each other only over social media. The people were confused
why he had been liking pictures since twenty twenty two,
and he's like, fact, like they've never been a kind
of obsessed with you.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeahah, which I haven't met a lot of them, but
they put back in like my posts.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I think you meet someone at like a club who
already has a following, the best way to like show
you like them is to like, like, like twenty pictures
in a row, so with all blocks together.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
If they already have a following, you're gonna fall. So
you have to start liking old pictures. So she's like,
who's this guy? Yes, and Andy knows because he's like,
he probably just went back and liked older photos. So
we cleared up. They were not dating beforehand. Olandria even
even sticks up for Nick and Ason Shelley and she's like,
they're the best. They're the realist. I don't know why

(22:23):
y'all think they're fake. A's and Shelley are exclusive. Ace
is a romantic. He wants to wait for the perfect
moment to make it official. I don't give a shit anyway.
A says this will be his first and last girlfriend
and he is in love with her, which that I love.
Stand on business, I loved it, Yeah, but like it's
a bold statement to say, for it's probably not gonna happen,

(22:47):
but I I so publicly say this will be my last,
Like it's Giving eighteen and we're going to college and
we're going to give you a promise ring.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Ye, but if this is publicly so it's giving because
this starts me nuts when people do this when you've
been dating for three months and you call them the
love of your life, like you barely know that, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
To be funny. Maybe it's because he has he's never
had another love, so he's like, this is the love
of love of my life.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
So far until this point, Yeah, I don't know, but.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I loved it because one of my favorite moments from
the season was when Taylor sat there and went, I
picked Clark and I was like, I beg edit, yes, oh,
we love it?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Was you seen those I know You're not like too
much of.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's my favorite part of this.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I loved that moment.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
And then now he's I loved it as being like,
this is my first and last girlfriend. Stand on it
because it's probably not gonna be true. So I'm I'm
here for the messy. So now a bunch of other
people come out. We talked to Austin.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
We had way too many people at this ring, and
I don't need every person. Let's be so fuck it.
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
So Austin his body count went down. He just forgot
about a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I hate this man. I hope he gets it because.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I'm fun of him for being dumb for sure, But
thank you Austin so much for proving me right. Like
I kind of feel bad at how dumb I thought
you were just based on your looks, like that's judging
a book by its cover.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
But I read in between the pages and it's blake.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
This man is there's no one home upstairs.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
No.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I literally was like he is scratching for one brain
cell all reading him. Truly, I hate him.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
He's single. Surprise. Also, whoever's made his body count go up?
Stop sleeping with this man. He is disgusting. Anyway, Elon's
got a dumb ass hairstyle looks like Derey Do you
remember did you see those photos? Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I posted one on her story.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's creaking up. Okay, uh we can kind of, I think,
go over this fast.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
But Coco, that girl from Kasa, gets called out for
saying Landria was standoffish, and Landria.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Is like, duh, I was in a new house with
my fucking ex dude.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Well, it's like she technically ca into that girl's space.
I know it was originally her house, but like you
were the new girlies, she's not gonna like if she
would come in confident and strong, you guys also would
have complained that she was taking over and ruining your experience,
Like no matter what, she would have been in the wrong.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah. So also, Landria is like, all my friends are
at the other house. I don't know any of you. Yeah,
I'm and my exit or my guy who's talking to
someone else, Like duh, this is a little weird. Shelley
and Landry kind of go with the Casta girls. They
all cower.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
They're like, it's just no, it's just Coco. Because Alandra
asked every other she went down the line, it's like,
was I a mean girl?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
And it was like no, no, no, no, no, You're
so nice. And I was like, even if they thought
she was mean, they're not gonna say it now because Jesus,
no one remembers their names.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
And Coco was like that was a misunderstanding, Like I
apologize you to you and the dms, and it's like, uh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You could have cleared it up once they like clip
went viral and there was a misunderstanding, but you didn't
and Landria saying like, uh oh, we're not clearing this
up in the DMS. You chose to go publicly about this.
We're gonna address this publicly.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Now. I agree if if you say something publicly, we
get too address it publicly. There's none of this. I'm
gonna just like send a nice You can send something privately,
and you should, but we're still going to bring it
up publicly, so let do this, okay.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Then we also have that Zach guy, the UK guy.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Why is he? No? I did not need that mean
a lot screen.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
He said that Brian only got with a Maya for
the money and it wasn't genuine, which is crazy because
that's what we all thought about him. Zach after that
one who challenged genuine person on this show and Brian
and Amya clap back at him and then he goes silent,
so we probably lost the internet connection. Who gets my dream? No,
we did see him lying around at one point when

(26:50):
everyone was arguing and I was cracking up.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
And I was like, cut to him.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I was, I was that was the only time I
need he was late? That was me last night. I
was fully sprawled this show. Okay, so Austin and Jayalen
Jayden Jaden, I think Jayden, you're right Jaden broke up. Surprise.
Uh So, Basically when they left the villa Austin we

(27:15):
saw an after sun. Austin was like, I'm gonna take
this girl on Yon lover and whatever. And then Jaden, Jesus,
I guess, told Austin like, listen, if you want to
date other people, that's cool, but just be honest with
me about it. Let me know so that I don't
catch me up. Yeah. So then Austin did the exact

(27:35):
thing she asked her not to do, which was he
dated other people without telling her.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
It went and told everybody and made a whole discussion.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Austin was like trying to defend himself and Andy. See,
no one's mad that Andy came at Austin, but he did.
And he was like, bro, she asked you to literally
just let her know, and it sounds like you didn't
let her know, so of course you were in the wrong. Like,
it doesn't surprise me that he can't think through this,
can't get it. Asked him what happened and he goes, uh,

(28:05):
uh I I don't want, Jaden goes, Austin can't can
take that question, and he oh, I can't compute. Jesus,
that guy. He is the biggest ass face. That's how
I feel about him anyway. Okay, so then we call
Houdah out for not owning up to writing that thing

(28:27):
to Pepe on the stand on Babas challenge, because Hood
is here, not standing on business. She's out here for Cobocker.
Even Pepe said if he wasn't that offended by it,
but it really hurt Grayson, Yes, And I really like Grayson.
I like the way she went about it where she
was like, I understand how to like, didn't mean to
hurt me, but it did. And it sucks that I

(28:49):
was like the collateral damage of it.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
But also every person who wrote something in said who
wrote it, and then they were able to explain why
they wrote it and recover from it, and so hanging
out there just makes it feel like you have an
enemy sitting there hating on things, and it's like, who's
saying this? It makes you question everybody.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Also, Jesus, it's like you've never watched a reality TV show.
If you do something and say something with the cameras rolling,
you're gonna get caught like we've we've lived this before,
like it's gonna come out. It's so dumb.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Anyway, Okay, but.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Did what do we do?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I really liked Grayson. I'm saying we didn't get more
of her.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
She seems cool. Yeah, I don't know. I wrote a
note about like hood of bringing back Chris. Oh, oh,
hood have brought back Chris for both Shelley and her.
Then we have to do this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Wait that comes up a little bit later.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
No, because then we get the unseen footage.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh, you're right. Sorry, I'm thinking about all the I mean,
there's a million hood of comments that are kind of
constantly like, we'll talk about this later. So in my
everything is always like, oh, we'll talk about it later.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, we have and gotten to Jeremiah. Let's talk about
the Chris put a Shelley thing. So we had heard
this whole thing basically the drama if we remember, and
correct me if I'm wrong, because even I black out
of a lot.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
But Huddah was interested in Chris, Chris was interested in
mostly Shelley but kind of Houddah and Shelley was obviously
into Chris.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
But probably more into ace. So Hudda was like, hey,
what if I brought Chris back from CASA. From Hodda's perspective,
she's like, it's good for me, it's good for you.
We can both explore options.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Fine.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
From Shelley's perspective, that fine was said, but Hudda was
phrasing it as like, I'm doing this for you. I'm
not even doing it for me. I'm doing it for you.
So let me see this unseen footage of them talking
in the bathroom, and I have to say, here's let
me let me cook and then you can let me.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Cook with my thoughts friends.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, let me cook.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Watching the footage. What Hooda is saying is totally true.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
She was saying, I want to get to know Chris.
You can get to know Chris, whatever. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
However, Shelley's body language was not what Huda was picking up.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Huddah was like, we're so excited girls. Yeah, such a
good job.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
But then Shelley was like, I'm not I'm not interested
about that.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah. Yeah. She was like, I don't know how I feel.
Shelley kept saying, I get what you're saying, I just
don't know about it, Like she was like, I don't know,
Shelley seems so uncomfortable in this, and Hodda did not
perceive that compute for her. Yeah, And that's what the
weird part for me was was if I said to you, Meredith,

(31:40):
we could both date this guy, that's great, and you went,
you know, I then would be like, oh, are you
not down with that?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I wouldn't respond amazing girls girls dating guys that is like.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
You would obviously then make the decision just for you.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
That's what's hard is like I think this is a
perception issue on both sides, Like, yes, Hooda can't see
that Shelley wasn't psyched for it, And I feel like Houdah,
she does this a lot. She like like pumps herself
up with what other people are saying or doing, and
like she interprets things so differently, yeah than how I

(32:18):
necessarily would. And so Hooda is building a story in
her mind like oh, yeah, Shelly and I are both
excited that, like I'm gonna bring back Chris for both
of us. And Shelley did say there were a lot
more conversations than just that one where she would constantly
say like, oh, it's for both of us.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oh, it's for both of us. But my issue is, yeah,
Hooda does.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Get a little bit of like credit, like she did
have that conversation and did say it like, hey, I
do want to bring in for me, but like this
could benefit you to But I do think that Houdah
is never honest with actually how she's feeling. So once
they get in the villa, Hodda will always use Shelley's
feelings or what she did for Shelley to like make
her case that like she's not a bad person, or

(32:59):
like they're girls. It's it's the same thing as her
constantly throwing like we're girls, like we're besties, like we're
the it's the sisterhood. It's to deflect any responsibility of
what she actually owes in that sisterhood, in that friendship.
And so as things progress with Chris, she's not being
honest with Shelley about what's going on and that she
is doing this. This is a selfish really like and

(33:21):
that's okay, be selfish like that she should be She
should bring Chris back for herself and herself only it
has nothing to do with Shelley. It can be also
a benefit to Shelley, And you can say that in
one conversation and say, hey, I know you're interested in too.
I understand your You might explore that as well if
I do bring him back, but like it's for you,
it's not for Shelley, and so I do think you

(33:42):
put a in all the other scenes that we saw
in the actual show did constantly tack on Shelley's like benefit,
as in like why, like she's a great person.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, it was just weird because I I don't understand
the hood. I have to be so honest, like the
way the way she moves. It's one of those people.
I'm trying to think of another person we'd like talked
to about it, because we've had these people before and
we've watched them and like, we don't get it. There
are just certain people that like I watch and I go,
I don't understand how this person thinks, like because I.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Don't understand how they have like friends, Like I don't
understand friends with her in the.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Villain because if I saw my friend react the way
Shelley did, I said the same thing Hood it did
to one of my friends and she reacted the same
way Shelley did, I would be like, what are your reservations,
like immediately I can read that, and the fact that
Huda like couldn't get that, and even if like, okay,
there's some reservations, HOOD could have been like, look, I

(34:42):
understand it's a weird situation.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
But like this is really my only option to stay.
And so I know you're gonna pick Ace.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
You can still get to know Chris, but I also
want to get to know him, but I want to
make sure our friendship is good. That would have been fine.
I want to tell you before I do it, but
instead she's literally like a como sisters and it was
so weird. It was so I can't understand how she thinks.
Because then she's watching it and she's like, I told
you that's gotta I got them, And I was like, no,

(35:11):
I do you not see it?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Like miss also see what's happening in.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
This Yeah, you were right in what you said. You
said exactly what you said you said, but you interpreted
it way different, girl.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Like you're missing everything else in this situation. You got
the transcript right, yes, but the tones are vastly different.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That it's that you know how there's like that sentence
where wherever you put your accent it means something different.
That's what this is where you're saying the sentence, but
we all are getting different ideas of what you actually
mean about it. So it was it was super weird.
I get why the girls were like what is a weirdo?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
And I feel like even like, like I said, I
this is a partial win for Houdah, Like I like footage,
like she was right and what she said, But then
I feel like she gets emboldened by being like, see,
I'm right, I'm always right, Like yeah, it just affirms
her in her.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
She doesn't have to take prosibilities for anything. Yeah, she
had heard someone's feelings, but she was honest, so it
doesn't but on her.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
But I was right, like I was writing a situation,
So like what do I have to apologize for? And
it's like your fact was hurt by this? How can
you not understand that?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Like, what's what's the price for being right? At this point?
You know that like gets you'd rather be right than
be a good friend.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Okay, never repair your friendship now, wasn't that serious? But
like again, you're not trying to repair the friendship.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
It didn't even work out in the end, So but
what are we fighting about I don't know anyway, very
good point. Okay, we're gonna switch gears to go talk
about how uh Hannah Pepe they ended, which was crazy.
They listen Hannah did to Charlie with then Pepe did Danna.
It was crazy. I thought it was weird when it

(36:57):
was happening. I get it.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
But I will say those that grouping like they all
took it on the chin pretty well of like they're
the next person moving on, because that is the show.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
So then we get the unseen footage of the girls
voting Hannah off, which I found was that was hard.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
It was hard to watch, but I that's the game.
It's to be honest.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
If you if this is your first season of Love Island,
I don't know what you're doing. This is how it
always goes. They always make the Islanders vote each other off.
That's part of the drama. I felt really bad for
Hannah because she's sitting here sobbing at the reunion. I
was like, girl, it's not I hate to tell you,
it's really not that deep.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's okay, I agree, Okay. I think the US fan
base is kind of ruining this show because we like
want too much information. It's like we don't need to
see every vote. Why we can We need to learn
how to be upset with the decision made and move
the fuck on.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It's crazy. We can't be because look at where we
stand in our government. The decision was made and now
we all have to just be upset.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Right, we did this with Andrea last year too, Like
we just need to be like, that's ridiculous. They made
a bad call and for it to just like move on.
We all voice her opinions, but like we got to
stop this washer cycle of commentary, and like these people
are evil?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
How could they send Hannah home? I don't think.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
You know, I know, but like and like we just
needed learn to disagree about it and not make it
like such a thing.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
But that need to get receipts for it. That's the thing.
If it wasn't Hannah, it would have been a Maya,
and then people would have been mad that Amaya Papaya
went home because she's an America's sweetheart. And if it
wasn't a Maya, then it was Iris and she didn't
have a chance Iris. So like everyone's gonna be mad.
You have a right to disagree, but at the end
of the day you used your vote, the bottom three were.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Picked and then they get it's in their hands.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
It's the same thing where I say, like, the Islanders
can't be that mad because it's a fucking game. America
cannot be that mad. This is a fucking game.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
At the end, agree agree, yeah, we are saying it.
We we left those three up to the final up
for RABS and then they got a vote, and that's
how this shakes out.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Like you know how it's gonna go. Like it just
drove me. It drives me nuts. And poor Hannah is
really taking this harshly and I was like, girl, it
is not that deep. I like that she was crying
and she was like no, I love everyone and I
get it, but she really was her.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
But I think it's hard to watch your friends talk
about you like that. And that's why I don't think
we need to keep air clips like that.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Never never really shows us the discussion. They show us
like them just like generally talking about it, but they
never show people like because we vote ye bad and
like the like okay, like should we like she doesn't
really have a connection, Like she shouldn't really be here
like that, They don't get specific and who, what, where,
when why. They just are like vague words about voting

(39:53):
and yeah, I don't think she should be here, but
they never show names.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
At the same time, though those four girls were going
through it saw yeah, like it wasn't they weren't all
just like, yes, we now get to vav Hannah Like
that made me.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
That made me feel better because I was worried, like
the Drea vote, like everybody thought last year that it
was like it was Leah being like get her out
of here, and it's like no, I do really think
those Islanders go through every person and say the pros
and cause they staying, and they should because I think
the producers also force them to do that, Let's be honest,

(40:26):
because they need all the dialogue and all the footage
to like give us the best show, So they're gonna
walk through every single person who's up for a limitation.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I'm making a new decree. If you're applying for Love Island,
you should know this is probably gonna happen to you
and take you can cry that you're leaving. Take it
on the chin. I would honestly tell the producers I
don't want to see what they said, I don't, I
don't care. I got. It doesn't change anything. That still
like these people, I'm gonna watch them. That's what we're

(40:56):
talking about.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Me.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
We can't vote her back into the house and read
do it. It's also uncomfortable for everyone, like I don't
want to know what you're saying about. It's cool you
voted me off. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's why I think she was crying, is like this
is just not normal to want you.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, it was crazy. So then we have Jeremiah. He's
here now. I always got.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I know he was out pretty early, but I was like,
they're literally wait, making that man wait.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
In the week he ross, he had a walk out,
he had his own entrance, which was so weird. He
wasn't that important.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Jeremiah is very well spoken.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I will say I think that he has had time
to really go through what happened and process it all,
which I.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
But he also said on the show like he is
in therapy and he has a lot of self reflection,
which I think really shows and such a pro for
therapy everybody out there.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
So we really have to to put the point home.
We are hell bent on making sure everyone knows Jeremiah
did not love bomb. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
I don't care either way. I didn't care if he
did or didn't.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
To be I don't care. What annoys me is that
Ace is deciding if he was love bombing, Like I'm.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Like, my guy, what like, you don't get to be
the like ruler. But when things happened, Pudda did it too.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
She was like, you were love bombing me?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
And then Ace was like, you were love bombing and
Jeremiah is like the definition of love and I was like,
everyone shut muzzle these three. Muzzle them all.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I will say Jeremiah cooked when he goes I can't
love bomb her through you. Ace, like you saying that
I said to you, and that like that's I love
that he said that because Ace loved and this is okay,
Like this is a character always every season, every franchise,
there's somebody who's meddling in everything, getting the discussions going.
But Ace involved himself into all of this stuff with

(42:50):
Jeremiah and then got mad at him.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
No, I loved one. He said, I can't love bopar
through you. He was like, damn eat him, eat him up.
I will say. So Jeremiah was here's my he hate
all these men, like truly. Okay. So then the boys though,
were like it was weird when you would say stuff
like hey, just tell your girl you love her so

(43:13):
like she'll always pick you, like whatever, that kind of shit.
And then he Jeremih's like it was a joke. Oh
my god, it was a joke, and the boys were like, Okay,
it just didn't really land. I guess, and I was like,
every season, we're gonna have one dude on every show
I ever watched. Go it was a joke, yeah, haha,
funny laugh joke, It's like. And then Austin's like I

(43:38):
knew it was a joke, and I was like, Awestin,
this man didn't know anything.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
He didn't know like way was up that you know
the English language? Again, shut the fuck up, Austin.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Like maybe it's just a bad joke. Which it was
a bad joke.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, It's like it didn't land. Like if you mentioned
as a joke, clearly they didn't get it. Clearly he
guys didn't get along like my watch party, somebody that's OK.
I think Jeremiah was like a nerdy guy who want
to glow up late in life, so he like doesn't
have the like boy like social skills where you're like
rounding each other, Like he never clicked with those guys
that well, we're like they all were on the same page.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, and that's okay, yeah, but like I don't know
what we're doing here, but I think I was.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Trying to be part of that, like the Ace Taylor
and Nick he throw out, so then he's like saying
things and it just is like landing in a weird
way where then they're getting concerned rightfully. So yeah, but
it's just like, Okay, whoa, he was just trying to
bond me.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
That is so accurate. That is so accurate.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
And it's funny too because I would watch Jeremiah and go,
oh yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Don't like them trying really weirdly hard here, but also.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Because it was also weird that like Nick is a weirdo,
Like his jokes were so out of left field, but
they were funny. They were so I was like, it's
crazy because Nick, there's something weird about him, but he
is so funny. And my friend, I think said at
one point, like Nick is almost too funny that I
think some people don't get it. And I was like, no,

(45:12):
that's that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Fun that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
That's even funnier. Nick was so funny that I think
the guys were like, he's actually so funny that Jeremiah's
the other end of the spectrum where he's trying so hard,
so hard, and he's.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Still yeah, you know what. And also, let me give
proper credit, Jill is the one who said that front
of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Shout out Jill, No, she ate with that. That was great.
And then Austin is saying they were like, it's all
just jokes, and then Ace goes people go home over jokes,
and I, you know, I don't know who I'm rooting
for because I hate you all, but I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I was here people catching people and everything. I'm like,
everybody get each other, like that's the point of this reunion.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
And then Nick was like, I didn't agree with Jeremiah
going home. I wanted Austin to go home, and I
was like, clap for him. And then we got the
footage of literally Ason Taylor being like, I feel like
it should be Jeremiah, and Nick was like, I really
want Austin. And then I was like, that's the unseen
footage we deserve because as yeah, I hate him, and

(46:19):
I respect Nick for looking Austin dead in his face.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
And going I wanted you gone.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
But I appreciate that because Nick was like, listen, you.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Guys all think I'm just following him. I didn't even
want that.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Like at the end of the day, we have to
spre home.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
So I was out voted. So yes, that's I am
responsible for this too, but I was not fallen in
line here.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
That's what we saw. Nick goes, all right, well it's
two to one, so it's Jeremiah. What's Nick gonna do?
Cry about it? It was two to one, and he went, Okay,
I guess Austin stays damn it. Not that deep. Damn it.
We all say in sync. Anyway, Yeah, so Ace is
this ringleader, which, like I think in a way, Ace

(47:00):
was just vocal because yeah, these are also two grown
ass men.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
They're not like whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Acts Ace acts like, oh, ring leader, like I made
every decision. It's like, no, you can also be the
person who's leading every like you're the leader of this,
like you're starting the discussions, you're bringing up the topics,
you're putting the your opinion out first and like you're
the alpha guy in that row, Like let's be honest
between like him and Taylor, Like Ace is leading that.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, can I say though, I do think I think like, yeah,
I don't think he's like the ring leader. I think
Jeremiah Austin every Ace, and so everyone needs to get
off of this like Ace was making all the decisions
the villain. Yeah, I do think though Taylor. No one's
home either, So yeah, whatever Ace says, I guess you
know whatever that I mean.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Ace had a lot of impact on how people thought
and felt in his voice carried weight, and like I
sure want him to acknowledge that, and he should, Like
that's a great.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Skill to have. And then every influence and then we
can look at everyone else and be like, how are
you so easily influenced?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I have a backbone?

Speaker 1 (48:03):
What the fuck? Then this was the part I loved
the most. Ariana was like, we actually have the votes,
and the lowest voted people were Hannah and Jeremiah. So
if America had been the way, I was like, you
know what, they got it right, you know, so everyone
stopped bitching about how A sent Jeremiah home and everyone

(48:23):
sent Hannah home.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Because that was the way I would also didn't want
them either. Yeah, I was like, okay, okay, ballad on
sending them home. I agree with you. My only thing
is a shut the fuck up about this Susan friendship
violot stupid.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
I think I just hate all these men. I just
want to Anyway, we get clarification that Bell dash Uh
and Jeremiah are not together. Bell dash is just picking
herself was another. They were saying at the same Airbnb,
so people thought they were hooking up. But I think
they were just renting an airbb together and maybe they didn't. Okay,

(48:59):
but like they're not together. Can I tell you another
one of Jill's amazing takes? Yeah, of course she was
like bel Dasha is giving Raquel vibes, like the dress everything.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
And for those who don't watch Bravo, this is Arianna's
like ex boyfriends, life partners mistress. Oh yeah, oh my god,
oh my, so what a reason I got cheated on?
For anybody who doesn't watch Bravo, it was with Raquel?
Who is it? Oh my god, I'm breaking things so good,

(49:33):
ditzy person, like crazy, but yeah, like the color of
the dress, the way she interracs like give.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
It was like, oh my god, give Jill a raise.
That's why I hate bel Yeah, oh I knew someone
like Green.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Sea things whenever it was really hited home.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh my god, it was giving that one reunion, Raquel
showed up and was like, I'm a beauty queen says.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I learned how to I need to learn how to
talk to people.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Oh, someone, get Jill, give her a raise, give her
a raise. She should replace me permanently. She's so good.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
We just need to correspondent. We need Jill's hot takes.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Put Jill Jill on the Oh my god, put Jill
on the streets. Put Jill on these streets talking to people.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
She's our correspondent.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Oh, it's so good. Anyway, do we move on from that?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
That was should we the podcast here? Oh my god,
Jill take over.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I literally felt the adrenaline hit my body.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
I had to get up.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
I was like, that is so good. Anyway, Okay, next segment,
we we put together this thing or we see Hudah
doing all of her psychotics. She was raising Okay, yeah, okay,
so we play the video of Hoodah's like most memorable moments,
I think, but it was her literally losing her goddamn

(50:58):
mind and then so rude.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
I we were watching her to be a literal cunt,
and she's laughing about it.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
She's like and.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Like, oh my god, that's so like, you know, like
a nervous laughter.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
You're like, yeah, my god. She was like that's so good.
Can you look at that?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
No, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Andy. Then when it's over, he's like, I was going
to ask you how you felt about it, but you
were laughing. And she's like, yeah, I've done so much
self reflection, like that's not even me anymore. And and
he goes and he goes, You've done so much self
reflection in a month. Like a people were like, oh wow,
he really attacked her.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
She's handing him everything on a silver platter, like she
does not have to lift a finger to do anything
to this girl.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Let me tell you what I said out loud when
she said self reflection in a month. I go, or,
I've done so much self reflection? I was like, how
long has it been?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Literally out loud? I went how long has it been?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Out loud?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I go, name it, name you've done. Name what you've
done in a month that you're now a better person.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Andy's that was child's play for Andy. She hung the
fruit down and he hit it low hanging.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
No he she is feeding him the great to like
bite back at her.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
If you think that was mean jeeuz.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
She basically said, call me out on my bullshit.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Here, here's every card on everything that I've done. Also,
we have an entire flash of everything you've done, so
like it's super easy to confront you on things, the
shitty things you've done because we have a montage if.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
You ask me.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
We didn't confront him about it enough, agreed, where was
the where was the three two one countdown?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Like like the sexual harassment was crazy? Who? Yeah? Anyway,
so yeah. Then Huddo was like, I've done so much
work on myself after I was bullied and isolated in
the villa. And then Andy's like, I watched and I
didn't find many instances in which you were believed. Can

(53:04):
you tell me what any examples? And she was like, yeah,
there was this one time that the girls were talking
about me, and then we get the clip.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
No, no, no, hold on, She was I got out
of the villa and I saw a clip and felt bullied.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Okay, okay, after the fact, Okay, she's twelve. She's the
emotional intelligence of a nineteen year old, they swear to God. Anyway,
we watched the villa and I was fully ready to
be like, is she bullied?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
It?

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Was it anything remotely close to bullying? Bullying made you
feel bad in the moment your face.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I thought we were going to get the clip of
them stand on business challenge, which is the challenge like that?
I bet she felt ostracized. I both bet she felt othered,
like that was hard, and I totally understand her feeling
like that during that, but like, that's not what we got.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I don't even remember what they were talking about. But
I don't forget what they were talking about that they
weren't talking about her, she's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
No, no, no, they weren't talking about Houdah. And then
she they were staring at her because she was working out.
She was doing this like he ha in front of them,
thinking that, like they're obsessed with her, and they were like, oh,
she thinks that we're we're we're talking about what she's
doing right now. We're not. So they like laughed because
they're like, of course load of things were talking about

(54:24):
and focused on her. But again, she didn't say that
she felt bullied when she was in that moment and
people were laughing at her, because I understand if you
see people looking at you, laughing at you, that would
make me feel some type of way. It's that she
watched the clip back and felt that after the fact.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Oh I think I was bullied.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
I feel bullied from a clip of people laughing at me.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
And you know that you're in the comments of people
being like, because people are racist, They're like Shelling and
o'landry unscare are mean girls. And then she was like,
oh my god, they were bulled. Olandra was not there whatever,
you know what I mean. I just want to clarify
that I'm not needed.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
But she was in the mean girl's correct, absolutely because
she's a person.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Of color, of course. So I think that's a little
ridiculous that it's clear that Hudda cares about what the
public perceives.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Oh, she's so important narrative. She doesn't actually care how
she feels she's told by the public how she actually happened.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
No, literally, she's looking in a delusion.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Be upset that you now see what people said about you,
because maybe they did talk about her, but they weren't
talking about what she was doing in that moment. You
can be upset that people were talking about you, but
being upset and feeling hurt by your friends talking about
you is not the same thing as bullying. I'm getting
really tired of the word bullying being thrown out on
reality TV. When somebody says something bad about you, confronts

(55:54):
you about something, or just like generally says something you
don't like, that's not bullying.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
If I remember correctly. Weren't they talking about how like
Hurricane Hudder was exhausting and they just like couldn't really
do it anymore, Like they were like just a lot,
which is fair. Your vibe is ruining the entire villa.
So and I'm allowed to about good vibe? Yeah, yes,
And then you like look at me, and I'm like, oh,

(56:20):
she thinks we like looking at her. We're not.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Ha ha ha ha. Was putting on a whole performance
to try to get them to look at her.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
But little no, Literally, this is why I'm like, I
can't come. I can't understand where Hudda is coming from.
Like yeah, yeah, she doesn't.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Again, she does not see the dynamic in the video.
You know these the comments and it's like, oh my god,
they were so mean to me.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
You know, the saying you can't argue with great or
you can't reason with crazy.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Yeah, that's how I feel about Huddah. Like there's just
and her fans and her friends.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
It was just as bad.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
There's just they We're never gonna get through to that.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I'm gonna stop responding to them in the comments.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
You're never gonna get through to that. And they're just
there's no reasoning with crazy. Okay. So then Hudah also
went on a one Alex Cooper's podcast was talking about
how she was bullied and isolated.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
That is not where she said the Bob by the Way.
That was on Entertainment Tonight.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
And she talked about the girls being mean to them.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
No, it wasn't as much on the call Her Daddy episode,
but she which honestly the Caller Daddy episode she defended
everything she did and now because she basically did the
call Her Daddy episode pretty much as soon as she
hit LA, so she didn't see as much. But the
later interviews she was doing with other things was when

(57:41):
she was going after the other people without naming things
call her Daddy. She was defending herself, so she took
back a lot of apologies she had given to the girls,
and then other interviews is when she was like, I
was bullied, I was ostracized.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Okay, because that's now we're getting into kind of Hunnah
and her not friendships with Landria and Shelley.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
So I'm not crazy.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I'm not one percent sure on the timeline. Meredith, please
correct me as we know.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
No, I got you. I watched both The Caller Daddy
and I went and found once I heard she said
a bullying comment. I said about who names some names?
And it was on an Entertainment Tonight fifteen minute clip
that I could find on on YouTube. I remember sitting
on the bus here in Chicago watching it on my
birthday and and I guess, actually it wasn't my birthday,

(58:29):
but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Oh, it was your birthday to me. And I was like, okay,
name names, name them, name name them? So hod uh
we now live.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Okay, this is where I'm gonna get I'm gonna try
not to crash out.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Landria is like, here's the thing. When everyone got out
of the villa, right, there was a lot of backlash
on Shelley and Landria and a lot of Hooda stands.
Yea then not only perpetuated the narrative that Shelley and
o'landry are mean girls and they're terrible, but there was
a lot of racism behind those commons.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Yeah, and it was it was bad, right. And what
I say is Hooda is not responsible for what other
people say, and it wasn't It's not on her. But
also to know you have an influence because they were
safe in the comments. Yeah, that's why I think some
of this is on like not on.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Hoodah, but like where she should know her you know,
you know what, I'm going to keep the same energy
I do with people that I've talked. I've talked about
it on other reality shows. I've talked about it with
the w n B. A. If people are using your
name that to perpetuate a narrative and you don't stand
up against it, you are giants, then that narrative you
are compliant. So if someone's sitting here like spewing racism

(59:56):
for Hoodah, if Huda does not say anything, she is
complying in that racey That that is the energy I
keep with everyone because I know if anyone used my
name to perpetuate something I didn't feel for.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
I don't care how many fans I would lose. I
would stand up against it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Yeah. Absolutely, And it's even worse finding out that Alandria
said this to made Huda aware of it before they
even left Fiji. And then Shelley and Landria sit down
with Huda in La and ask her to please say
something to call off her fans, and Huddah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Said she would, and then she crazy did to agree
to it too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
It's like, you can only use the I didn't know
cards for so long, but the minute they said say that,
they told you, they asked you to do something, you
agreed and you still did nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
That's crazy, dude, that's crazy. And then Houdah's like, I
don't support any of that, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
They're like, but again, you're not, how really saying you
don't And.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
She even said she because okay, here's here's another difference, right,
We're gonna go back to season six for a second,
because there was a lot of people in Leah's defense
right targeting other Islanders last season, and Leah sat on
the couch of the reunion, looked in the camera and said,
I do not want anyone ever spreading hate. She goes,

(01:01:33):
do not go to Andrea's comments, do not go to
Rob's comments. Do not spread this hate. I don't want
it right. You're not a supporter of mine. If you do,
you do this put us sat on this couch and
went I didn't know. Of course I don't support that,
But how was I gonna stop it if I didn't know.
I got so busy I had no time to speak

(01:01:54):
out against it. Sit your ass down, Look at the
guy had a lot going on. I had a lot
going on that look in the camera right now and
say it. She couldn't even yet. She couldn't even also
get to it. Was crazy that she didn't apologize to
Olandria and Shelley to be like, I'm sorry I never
posted that. Instead, she said, I'm sorry if that, if

(01:02:18):
it all hurt you, I'm sorry if this was you.
I was like, oh my god, if I'm sorry. If
she should have looked at it, I'm sorry I didn't
do it. That's crazy, the hey you were getting. I
do not support that. I love you. She was like,
I said I loved you that. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
What is that supposed to do for me?

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
You are not a fan of mine. If you attack
these two girls, that is what you need to say.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I do not stand for it. I do not like you.
If you do that, cut it out, absolutely cut it out.
And she couldn't even do that. She couldn't even give
them a real apology for saying she was going to
do something and not doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
And then and then so they say this at the reunion.
In my mind, I was saying there and I was like, wait,
somebody can runts you and tells you how important this
is to them. And it's been weeks since this reunion filmed,
and now it's been like it's there's time since it's
aired and nothing still.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Now that's crazy now, and you're gonna sit here and
go I love you guys. You know that everyone knows
that you don't love.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Me enough to She weaponizes I love yous to deflect
any responsibility and so sorry, I hurt you and I
love you like sus the winds. And I wonder if
that is a pattern that she learned because she like
did have a trauma traumatic childhood in an abusive childhood,
like with her father, and like that in his abusive pattern,

(01:03:41):
and like that's she probably learned that. But that's why
I really do want her to go to therapy and
unlearn some of this stuff. Because and I love you
doesn't solve this. If you genuinely care about people, you
need to like have resolution with them, and clearly putting
a post up asking your fans to not engage in
this behavior would solve some of this. They would greatly

(01:04:05):
appreciate that. And that is how you can show friendship
and I love you in action.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
It was just crazy. And then as Hooda continues to say,
I just got really busy, I didn't have time. It
was It's not that big a deal that I didn't
do it, Olandria gets really upset and she says something
I did not know I was, so I had to
take him in it. Someone put Orlandria's face on George
Floyd's body.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Oh even why Hooda's face was the cop?

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yes, And this wasn't just like a one off tweet.
This was circulating in comments on their pages too, like
people were commenting that because you can do that with
TikTok and Instagram. This was on comments everywhere, like to
the point where people thought that whoever like the people
managing Hooda's page should have said something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I'm honestly scary. I have like I'm like kind of
shaking and it's not funny. I'm like giggling. I'm like
kind of chuckling because I have tears in my eyes
right now. That's insane that I've.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Been like during the show airing and like BuzzFeed Tasty
put a like knuckle sandwich to Shelley post like there
was a lot of like physical violence against Shelley and
a Landria like comments photos like it was I have
never seen it this bad in the Love Island universe,

(01:05:29):
and like the UK is notorious for not treating their
black contestins well, like this was insane.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Oh my god, I had no, I like really have
some tears in my eyes. That's like terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
No, it was very jarring to see. I can't imagine
it being about you too. And I have the privilege
of being a white woman and not having this like
history stacked on top of it and like feeling this
charged energy towards me and I felt disgusted. I can
only imagine what like black men felt like seeing like

(01:06:02):
themselves in that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
That makes what hood Is said in response to that
even worse because she know it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
She said she had never seen that photo, and Landria said,
I showed it to you, and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
She said, well, I didn't make the post.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Oh I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I mean, I care who made it. I think that
person is horrific. But if at least if I saw
a photo like that of you, I don't care if
I made it. I don't care if anybody like I
would be like, I'm so upset.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I don't even care.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
If I didn't have a following, I would be like,
are you okay? Like this is not okay? Like I
would be like, give me your phone, let me delete
it from everywhere so you don't even have to see it.
Like not what I believe in, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I everyone who likes that, like I, that is crazy.
This wasn't just like fuck you like and we're like this,
But this wasn't like this was obscene stuff. How could
she not see that or do anything about it? That's
honestly grat I don't think she cares.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
I don't think she and now because she's emboldened, she
loves she likes this is what I've seen people say,
and I do and don't agree with this, like because
I don't know if Hudda would take it this far
because I don't actually know her, but people said, like
the people are saying online that she was thrilled Shelley
was getting hate because she was so upset with Shelley
and that she was willing to not stand up for

(01:07:25):
Shelley and Landria because that's how much she despises Shelley
and like basically toss her relationship with Alandria like by
the wayside for like Shelley to continue to get this hate,
like her friendship with Alandria was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
This is beyond hate about the show though, this is
like coming at people's lives death threat Like that's crazy,
and like, could you imagine if you were like I honestly,
there's no worse like to also be photoshopped in is
the police officer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
That yeah, is That's when Hulda said, I'm receiving racism too.
I was like, we're not here to compare things, but
the fact that you don't see that your your fans
are doing this for you is the difference that And
if Hoo had asked Landry and Shelley to make a comment,

(01:08:20):
because she would that it would make a difference and
it would like quell some of this, they would have,
and I don't think you should have to ask. But
I also don't see the same Absolutely is getting racism
also in her comments not okay for anybody on these casts.
Absolutely at all. But it's not in the honor and
name of Shelley and Alandria. It's not like the same way,

(01:08:43):
and like it doesn't make it okay and it doesn't
make it different. But like to use that as the
reason because you're getting racism, like in racist comments too,
as the reason why you don't stop some of it.
I just find that such a weird comment.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Because I hate when people are like, well it's all
as happening to me. That doesn't mean it's not happening
to us, So you want them to receive it too,
Like you do something to change that it is if
you know how they're using your name, wouldn't you want
someone not to feel what you're going through?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Absolutely, I do think Love Island. I think there should
be a learning experience too. I think Love Island because
they put posts up, I think they should really recommend
and write for the for the cast members that come
off that finale posts and like they whether it's copy
they give them or they give them a post to
put on their story. That urges everybody to stop any

(01:09:36):
hate to any cast members in the name of like
any one of them, because I think it is really
important that we like stop it. We're like taking this
too far, as like a general fan base. In the comments,
the photos made the fact that people were calling Hoodah
like CPS on Hoodah and like like calling ice on
sharing Fu.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Yeah, people called ice on s his family and that,
like this is this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
CPS crazy across the board. It's taking too far. It's
a game show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Hoodie does deserve to be defended in this stuff too,
But she has an impact that she can make and
I don't again, I don't think she perceives that. And
that's what makes me so sad for like her. And
that's why I don't you said earlier you don't hate her.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
And I had to read listen for all of the
other like Andy was so meat. You're lucky it wasn't
me hosting this reunion, because if I heard that that
picture was posted and Houdah didn't do anything, oh my god,
I would have gotten up in through hands. I would
have been like, how are you not fucking how is
this not clocking to you? That's crazy, This is crazy.

(01:10:51):
This whole thing's fucking crazy. I can't. I hate the US.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Sorry no, sorry, it's like it's it's gross, it's it's horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Shut the show with them, and shut the show down,
Shut the show down. I don't want another season if this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Is what happened at this cost.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Yeah, no, protect you know what, protect people of color
have be all white people and will bully the fuck
out of them instead, because Jesus Christ, we have to
stop this. We'll call them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
But like a white show is in the answer, because
then we're not getting representation and like moving that needle forward.
Like yeah, but like it's just it's for people to
understand that. Like Hoodah does get like white adjacent privilege
and like a great criter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
I love her.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Yes, I don't know her full handle, but Chris, like
we follow her Chris on TikTok. She gives really great
breakdowns of how race impacts real life and like she
really puts it into different reality TV scenarios and breaks
down different issues. I love watching it because I get
the benefit of learning from an amazing black woman that
like it's not her job, but like I will add

(01:12:00):
absolutely take any information she ever puts out. And she
gets this. Creator gets so much hate for calling Hood
a white passing, but she is. That is that's a
fat passing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Not like it's not meant to be an insult. But
you you can be I can be white passing as well.
I straighten my hair. I'm white. I could be white
passing easily.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
And like, but even because you for those who don't
know Alicia is also a person of color, but you are,
your tears against a black person would also mean more,
you know, like like that's the benefit of like lighter skin,
Like that is just a fact, and yeah, we all
need to understand this, even though that's uncomfortable and that's frustrating,

(01:12:45):
like that, well that's the fact of like the life
for living in the US here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Yeah, and now it's like angering me, is I I
understand that, right, I am a person of color, but
I am I mean, I'm Latin, and then I also
can and be white passing. My dad is white, and
so yeah, if if something was happening, right, I know
I have privilege, Like I know I can use my

(01:13:11):
privilege even if I am a person of color, I
have privilege that other people of color do not have,
and so I have the ability to stand up against that,
and maybe a few more people will listen to me
than they would other people of color. Right, And that's
the privilege I have, and that's the privilege Hudah has
as well, right, And so she could speak out against this,

(01:13:32):
and the fact that she's not is blowing my mind, honestly.
And it doesn't help that for like anyone's case, that
Shelley and Orlandra Olandria are also dark skinned black women. Yeah,
so like this, this just looks really bad on everyone
who won't say something. And I'm gonna say this might

(01:13:53):
be controversial, but I don't care. Fuck Amaya for standing
ten toes behind Hooda as well. If that was my
my friend and I'm here, even if Amaya's just hearing
all this for the first time, my ass is looking
at her.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Being like you should post that post.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
That is again after the reunion airs. You can clock
your friend in private too, Like, if you think it
is gonna get a lot at her at this reunion,
you don't want to add to it on the actual
taping of it. How do you not go sit at
dinner that night or the next morning, like give give
her a breather and then and then call her up
and say you need to post that no knowing what

(01:14:29):
you know, now post that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I think for public perception, you've been ten toes behind hood.
I would have sad to this reunion. And even if
I just looked at Landria and Shelley and said, I'm
so sorry that's happening to you, is there anything I
can do? Like can I? I would have probably posted
if I was a Maya, I would have posted her
amyas also a person of color. She is dominic, she.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Has such a following two like she is the people's
princess of this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Yes, I would have said, Look, I wasn't aware of
Even if she did know, it doesn't matter. I wasn't
aware until the reunion air that this was happening. I
fully stand against this. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like how
that's so true?

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
And that person on that cast who sat there, who
is not showing a Landria and a person yeah, or.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
The black people on the show, Yeah, like you have
a power, Yeah, well, Amia's power because she was, like
you said, the princess hun has power because she has
a ton of fus. All the white cast members have power.
Pepe has power because he is a large following and
people like him a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Even you got ten thousand, that impact you could have
because there there's crossover, and some of these people who
follow up like there is crossover in this fan base.
It's not a one and done. You can't just you
don't get to just pick one person to follow your
You can still have an impact.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
I'm honest. After the reunion, I unfollowed Amaya because I
was like, how are you gonna stand tenpo's behind this?

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
I'm disappointed with everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Everybody that's crazy. It does not matter if you like
Landry and Shelley on the show. You cannot be compliant
in this. You can't and again that they use your
name to push this narrative and you don't say anything
you are compliant in the narrative. I do not care.
That is the energy I go with at this point
in time, and I agree with it for everyone, and
I would hold it to myself. So everyone let me

(01:16:18):
know if someone's using my name and something I don't
believe in, because I will say something.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
If I see it. I would tell you immediately, Oh
my god.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Okay, now we gotta talk about the heart ray Challenge,
which just seems like not the bucket right now, I know. Okay,
so we get the unseen footage of the heart rate
Challenge that caused all the drama.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Between what before we get to that I saw mine
today that Nick commented like on that the George Floyd post,
like he stood up for Landry, okay, and this whole
thing and they cut it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Out union yeah no, he's a white man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Yeah, like again, so the whole thing about like, oh,
like white people have power and like people listen like yeah.
So people upset with Peacock because Jeremiah came out and
said that Nick commented Jediah for Alandry.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Jeremiah, you call that shit out. I'm a fan now,
Jeremiah here, I am sorry. I said you're a fucking
weirdo at the beginning, because people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
People like, we're sniffing Nick's like reaction to Landria like
saying like commenting about the George Floyd picture, and Nick's
face was just like you could just tell it like
was painful for him. The clip that people like it
just kept replaying like yeah, and then somebody. I don't
know where Jeremiah's comment was, but I saw it in
somebody else's like like reporting it that Jeremiah said that

(01:17:35):
Nick did stand up for her and they cut.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Oh my god. Yeah, no one knows how to do anything,
fucking right. I swear to God this so you know
everyone sucks at their jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Oh, I'm just I'm extremely disappointed in everybody, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Shut out Jeremiah for saying something and fucking shout out
Nick even though it got cut. As you should stand
up for your girl, but there's a white man, you
know your privilege and fucking say something. Hell yeah, anyway,
sheold go to the Harvey Challenge, my challenge Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
So yeah, all the drama between Shelley and Hoodah and
how Houdah was went took it too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Far with Ace during the Harry Challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
So we get to watch it and I didn't know
when it was gonna get like the line, but I did.
At the beginning. I was like, did she lick his dick?
Like I had a moment and I was like, oh
my god, because.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
People at the end, but if I get it that hard,
like with people coming out of the villa I had
heard because Sony, I don't know where I saw this
that Hooda had done. They kind of called it her
signature move because she did that to Jeremiah whenever the
like uh leather and whips and lace and oh shed
him from it, like ankle all the way up. And

(01:18:51):
so people said like, oh, she did that to Ace too,
and I was like that just it was not needed.
But so yeah, I knew that was coming back. Like
to watch it, I was like, oh, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
It made me feel crazy. And then she did bounce
her ass on his face, which I thought was less weird,
but it was only weird because everyone else had stopped that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Again, it's like reading the room in this situation. She
doesn't perceive what's going on around her whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
My biggest issue was after the fact, Shelley said, look,
it was a challenge and we all said we were
going to go for it, and that's fine. However, as
my friend, there's a certain level of respect and like,
licking my man's dick is not that respect, which is
true because my god, I would never lick any of

(01:19:38):
my friend's significant others.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
I want to. I don't want to be near my
significant others or my friend's significant others crotches.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Yeah, I'll fine for the challenge, shake my ass in
their face, but I don't want to lie.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I don't need my tongue to be anywhere near their dick.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
No. So, but the fact that is, like, but it
was a challenge. I was like, no, no, no, but
here's here's the thing. Right, Yes it was a challenge,
and that's great, but this is your friend, right, this
is your own friend.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Have some decency, have some respect for your friend.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
She then also said everybody gave consent and that's not
the issue, Like nobody was saying that, like and if
people are like, that's weird, Like case wasn't like accosted,
you know, like she didn't sexually assault this man. It's
it's you prioritize the challenge and your need to do

(01:20:32):
all of this over the friendship. The challenge was more
important to you, and winning a challenge and whatever you
wanted to get out of the challenge was more important
than your boundaries and your friendship with Shelley who you
ate with.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
That that was so that was the best way to
put it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
You were so well spoken.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Yes, yes, that's exactly what it is, and like, if
you want to do that, that's fine, but stop expecting
this sisterhood and stop saying all this stuff because when
it comes down to it, your actions aren't. You don't
follow through with that. You preach it the most. At
least we saw the most could have been edited, but
we see that you preach the sisterhood the most and

(01:21:16):
you do the least to actually invest in it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Well, I think that's the thing, right is. After the challenge,
Shelley was very upset with Hudda, right, and Huddah was like,
it's just her friends, It's just a challenge. She could
have if she wanted to, just like, I don't know
what would look better, But she could have just been like,
hey man, I was here for the challenge and I
did what I had to do.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Boom shaka laka fuck the friend show kind of thing, right, But.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
That's how she's like, we were friends, girl, you can't
be mad.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
It was a challenge for and again I'm buying for you.
You think that you went into that and you all
agree to that. Whatever your friend is hurt, So your
friend hurting should be the priority, not you justifying what
you've done.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
It to be right, writer, friends, is it more important?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
I mean, here's another incident of hoodage just wants to
be right, you know what. And that's okay, But don't
you respect the friendship? Then don't invest in the friendship.
We've seen you've like toss these friendships the minute you
had one hundred thousand followers. So for you, it's not
about quality of friendships. It's about quantity and needing attention.
Like let's go so for real, go be right, girl,

(01:22:25):
go rightself, go be right, go be right. Anyway, So
that was kind of the end. And then it was
like you could apply to Love Island, Marita, should we apply?

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
No? I wish they had an average people's Love Island
where we could like wear one pieces and eat like
bread and stuff, you know, because that's not we didn't
have to like I think it's called hinge. We didn't
have to put in our face every day.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Yeah. I did think it was funny. How I think
I think it was Arianna at the end or somebody
said like, oh, it's about the friendships along the way,
and I was like, that's so funny because we started
this with Ace being so upset that this was friendship
Island and I was like, you're right. This season was
about the friendships along the way. Let's friends, not love Island.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
We were no, my god, what friendships. We had two
different guide groups going at each other. We had a
Huddah fucking up all her friend brigade. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
what friendships. The only friendship I believe in is Shelley
and Orlandria, and they were even pushed closer because of
all the racism. Probably so here we're going. So that's

(01:23:28):
the end. But now I do want to talk about
something that happened after fact.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Okay, So Huddah went on, I hate this girl. I'm
so sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
This is if you're a hood of stand you're gonna
hate us, and I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Honestly, do not follow us to this podcast. I think
so poorly of you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Don't come this way anyway. Right after the reunion, Hudda
went on her her Instagram stories.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
I don't know TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Insteady her Instagram stories. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
First she talked about how uncomfortable Andy nade her because
she asked. He asked a thousand times about her relationship
and she just didn't want to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Okay, that's her prerogative to be public.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
About it when she wants to be public about it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Girl, you're public about it on that red carpet, and
it's Andy's also.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Job to ask, yeah, he didn't cost you on the
streets and shove a microphone in your face. You're at
a reunion to talk about your love life oho two weeks?

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
No literally, you are capitalizing on your love life. We
can ask about your love life.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
No, I mean, yeah, you're doing that too, but you
are here at the Love Island reunion where we are
catching up on love lives.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
No literally, And also why did you lie then and
say you can't talk about it?

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Because a Netflix you could have just said I don't
want to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
About it, and then you could have just been labeled
that girl that didn't want to talk about her.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Life there there. It's because like everybody called her out.
It's because people called her off that she wasn't on
an NDA, that she's a goddamn liar, and now she
has to claim victim. And now people are like he
Andy should have never hosted this reunion, like he's a Zionist,
like he's a Palestinian woman.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Huna posted about Andy's a Zionist, and she's a Palestinian,
and how he was he's anti her and whatever, he's
the anti her, but not because you're a Palestinian. Tell
you he isy and ti you. I did minimal research,
so I don't know left right and center. Andy may

(01:25:32):
Or may not be a Zionist. I don't know. That's
the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
I haven't done enough research to make it I'm on
this yet.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
And I also do not know enough about the conflict.
I will always say that and I should know more.
But it is complex.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
It is very complex.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
I don't I am happy to knock off anyone who
is a Zionist, honestly, but I don't know. I need
hardcore proof, lige.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
I looked into it and I didnot find anything.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
I couldn't find much couldn't find, like like statements or
when I have AI on Google, they said they showed
me his posts and that didn't even come up for me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
That doesn't help, and that Andy's Jewish, and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
I went, that's that doesn't count.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Yeah, that In all honesty, I looked it up five
minutes before we hopped on here, so I didn't do
a lot of research, but it didn't pop up immediately
now I asked.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
I asked a I to pull. Every time he has
been in it. It pulled him saying he is proud
of his Jewish heritage. Okay, so that doesn't that is
not being as.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
No, I'm not defending him in any way if he is,
fuck him right, I just need to I know, you
gotta give me proof. I can't do these trolls going.
He's definitely ans it, but I aled people.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
To understand that can be a layer of it. But also,
like calling her out for the stuff she was called
out for, it's also valid in his job.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
So but for wait, this is the part. I'm gonna
let me cook put her two in less than twenty
four hours post about how Andy sucks and he's a
Zionist and whatever. But she couldn't post about not being racist.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Correctz crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Rat so crazy. She's not busy enough to shut the
fuck up about Andy. But god forbid anyone ask her
to tell her fans to stop being racist. She's too
busy to do that, And that shows me who she
is as a person. If I didn't already know, now
I know. So I don't really care if Andy's a

(01:27:32):
Zionist or not. I care that Hodah's posting about it
but can't stick up for her so called fucking friends
who she loves to say, Hey, sto's baying them on
my behalf stop literally being racist and sending them death
threats on my name. So that's how I feel about that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I'm just saying watching Andy Cohen's comments because her defenders
will go after him. I did, and this is proof
that she's gonna sick her her followers on people she
doesn't like, and that is online bullying.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Stick him on us, girl, because I don't really care
about internet hate. What's up? But like you're sad if
this is all you're doing too, you're just like defending
whoever Hooda hates. Get a life. Literally, don't follow us,
don't come near us. We don't need it. But if
you feel like you need to, I'm just gonna start
responding and be like, go touch grass.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Well, I mean like Hoodah defenders must also go after
Netflix account, right because like they clocked her.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Oh go get Netflix. You better cancel your subscriptions, guys, jesus,
I will say I did in my five minutes of research,
see that Andy did make a comment or something on
some political person. I actually don't want to speak on it.
But he may or may not be a Zionist. But
I don't know. But I did see him maybe coming

(01:28:54):
at a political leader who is pro Israel and commenting
about like how that was wrong. But again I don't know.
I don't have the right proof.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Let me find the It would have to be pro Palace.
Yeah he okay, you said pro Israel. I was like,
oh there was.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
There was a political post that was pro Israel and
Andy commented against that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
So he was commenting pro Palestine.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Oh so then he's not.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
But I don't have the hard proof of that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, I get that. I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
It's a rumor of something I saw on And we
can't believe everything we see on the internet rate so
some research. I think Andy was harshest on hood uh.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
But people act like Huda wasn't the biggest talking point
of this season and her behavior, No, so why wou
did he clock her? And like you can dislike his
opinions and think he's wrong, sure, but he he puts
his opinions in every reunion. Do not act to Kotah
a special and that she's the only one getting this baby?

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
No, literally can we talk about that. She literally was
ninety percent of the season, you're gonna talk about her
behavior the most.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
She crushed out hard.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
On this season, Like do you want us to ignore
that she is beef with a lot of people on
this gust.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
So all I took from this reunion though, is if
anyone asked me a question I don't want to answer,
I'm gonna say I'm under Netflix NDA.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
I'm sorry, I'm in a Netflix NDA.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
I'm addressed up as a Netflix NDA for Halloween. That's
so funny. I can't I'm under Netflix NDA. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
I also am confirmed that hood I still cannot read
the room and read the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
I was gonna say she can't read, and I was
like those spastically.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
I will still wait for anybody with privilege and following
to be like anti racism. Let's do it right here,
let's actively.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Be We have a small following, but hey, let's use
our voice. We are anti racism on all friends. Do
not be racist towards any of the cast members, includes Hoda, Shelley,
and Landria. We do not stand for that, and especially
you use our name.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
We're fucking coming after you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
We know a lawyer. You have a lawyer literally die anyway. Anyway, anyway,
thanks for tuning in. This was so fun. Meredith. Any
last words before I close this out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
I'm so happy I'm done with this cast. I actually
never want to see it for Orlandria ever again, because
she's so hot.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
You know what, I might go follow Landria and Shelley
just to give them some love because I think they
deserve it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
They deserve it amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Anyway, with that, do all the things I mentioned at
the beginning of the episode and love youa thanks for joining. Bye.

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