also...New Jersey and Next Gen

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it up.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh no, no, no, crue, You'll never guess, so sidebar yes.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
And also I feel like.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I shouldn't have to remember everything I know.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Actually I have talked about this three two one. Hi everyone,
I'm Meredith and this is also podcast. You're probably wondering
where Alicia is, but don't worry. She's only gone for
an episode while she's on vacation. So this week, I'm
actually joined by a very dear friend who lives in
Chicago with me, my friend Jill. Welcome Jill.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hello, Hi everyone, longtime fan, excited to be here. And yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Time, first time joiner. Yeah, it's a perfect phone in
the friend because I met Jelle through a friend and
immediately we bonded over reality TV. And every time I
record the podcast, I feel like I see Jill right after,
and we basically have our own podcast on this side ins.
People will always walk up and like, what are you

(01:00):
guys talking about? And we're like then or pup rules,
and then they're like, never.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Mind, immediately leave the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
We have no other reality TV people really in our
in our friend group, I feel like there's a few
people like with like Love Island, but as hard as
we go and like as hard as this podcast goes,
we're about it.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I say, I think reality TV.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
You guys might have said this before, but like people
shit on it and like give a crap because it's like, oh,
it's stupid people. But also it's like really analyzing people,
especially with Love Island is a great example, Like, yeah,
they're in a utopia. They don't have to worry about food,
they don't have to worry about like working out too much,
or I mean they do, but like they're just there

(01:41):
to be hot and potentially fight, love and make friends maybe,
like and it's such an interesting way to like look
at like the human psychology.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I'm saying, I'm massive of psychology and human behavior and
all of those things. Yes, well, before we get into
all of the details of every thing we've been reading, watching,
and listening to this week, please join us and follow
us on TikTok, Instagram, our Patreon, everywhere. It's all in

(02:09):
our description, so go find those links. Also, please please
please rate, review and subscribe. We like never get ratings
anymore or reviews. It makes me so sad, So for
Jill's sake, rate this and tell her how amazing. She was, well,
kicking off, we are going to go straight into our
small celebrations. So Jill, I'm going to give you the
honor of going first, because normally I have to go first.

(02:31):
So do you have anything you want to celebrate.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
This way celebrating? I feel like just summer. Summer in
Chicago's been really fun. I've got a couple of contents
lined up. I am on the eve of seeing Hozier tomorrow,
which I'm very excited. It may rain and it's an
outdoor venue and we're sitting on the grass, but I've
been there, done that, I'm prepared. There's also a heat
wave from the corner. Being in the Midwest, I'm not

(02:57):
from the Midwest, but the corn sweat was a crazy
thing to learn about living here and that it is real.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, So I think my small celebration is a future
will be seeing Hosier live and a full concert of
his So. I saw him at Lollapooliza last year and
it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Of course, wait, I love that. I can't wait to
hear home with those.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh yes, I will send videos and photos of him.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
He's beautiful, oh, absolutely an incredible voice. So that's also
what you're going to be listening to this week, so
that's wonderful. I feel like my small celebration is just
being in my apartment and hopefully doing very little this week.
I had such a busy week last week, and I
always sign up for like so much, and then it

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builds and builds and builds, and then you're like, wait
a minute, I haven't had one minute on my couch.
I was out of town last weekend, so my goal
is to lay on my couch and watch as much
TV as possible.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
You have such like I feel like a cute setup,
Like when we did that movie marathon. I was like,
this is perfect. It's so cozy. Honestly, even I imagine
it like in the winter must be so nice not
having to feel guilty about not enjoying the next weather
and Joe really going up at home by yourself, like truly,
But no, I.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Should have put that in your intro that you were
there on Harry Potter Marathon day, because that was discussed
on this podcast, so for everybody. I watched all Harry
Potter movies in a twenty four hour period, and Jill
was an attendee at that.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I don't know how you did that because I sat
there for two and a half movies and I thought
I was I joined at the end of Chamber Secrets,
and then I watched my fave, which is Prisoner of Azkaban,
and then we watched whatever the next one is, Stop
with Fire, and I left at the beginning of Order
a Phoenix. But it's crazy knowing, Like when I left

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your apart, I was like, she still has so months
ago more movies. It just props to you. That's commitment,
and that's why you have this podcast because you can
commit watching days.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I do commit to it. AKA why I want to
be on my couch for twenty four hours straight.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, and perfect for the heat wave.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
You don't have to go out.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I do have to go to the office, but that's
the minimal amount. The rest of the time will be
horizontal right here on this comfy couch. So first up, Jill,
it's okay if you don't have a category for this
because I don't have anything. But we kick it off
with anything we've been reading. Have you been reading anything
fun lately?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I just started and I literally have it next to me.
I just started Allie Hazelwood's Not in Love. Well, I
don't want her into it, are you? I'm good like
a third into it. I've read her other three, like
Love Hypothesis, Love Theoretically, and Love of the Brain, which
I really like that trilogy. I love a standalone romance novel,

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but that like is lightly connected to others because and
I don't have to commit in order.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
So I agree, and I think I think more writers
are getting into that where they kind of have one
or two characters spin off, which is kind of nice
because if you do go out of order, like you mentioned,
it's not difficult. But also if you just want to
read one, it's not a bit commitment.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, but no, it's very cute.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I think this one is more enemies to lovers, which
is not my vibe usually I'm a big friends to lovers.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'm a lover girl myself and.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
A hopeless romantic. But it is giving me what I
need and it's very fun.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, so we'll let you know after once I finished
my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
But definitely her other three though I highly recommend, especially
I think Love Theoretically I think is the best of
those three.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Okay, that's good to know. Well, I am not well,
I am reading something, but It's something I mentioned earlier.
I'm reading about redlining in cities, which is not glamorous
by any means, but it's it's my book for the
that's very absolutely highly recommend It's my commute read. So
I only go in three days, so I'm slowly chipping

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away at it. But I'm ready for our meat and
potatoes of this episode with everything we've been watching, and
first to give the listeners just to kind of dive
into Jill's world of I told her to prepare like
a reality TV synopsis of how she got into reality TV.
That way we can also know a little bit of

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background of what her interests are, where she got started,
and everybody can get a little POV on Jill. So
I'll let you take it away.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Ah. So I'm originally from the East Coast. I'm from
Philly area, Go birds. So when I was thinking about
this question, I was like, what reality TV was I
probably watching? And I'm very young in appropriate eight and
it was Jersey Shore. Absolutely like I grew up going
to the Jersey Shore, but not that Jersey Shore. I
will say, more of like the family fun, catch some crabs,

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go fishing, enjoy the beach kind of vibe.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
It's the beach trip.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
They do know people that grew up on the Jersey Shore.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
And wait, so somebody from the East Coast and who
went to the Jersey Shore. Is it very separate or
is it all happening all at once?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
What do you mean like separate?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Like the Jersey Shore show was obviously in one of
the cities. Was it Seaside?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yes, yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
There's see all these heights, yeah, there's always right, Okay, Yeah,
so it's like, yeah, I don't know like where Jersey Shore,
and I probably if any East Coasters are watching, and
then I mean Jersey people are watching, they probably will
give me ship for not knowing fullheartedly. But again, I'm
here to like watch the reality show. I'm here to

(08:31):
pump my fist and get my poof up. I should
have worn a poof to like that's okay, but no,
like I watched that it was Thursdays what ten PM did,
Like I fully committed by the time they were in Miami,
Like I jumped in a season late.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Again, I mean young Mobi for the best.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I didn't need to watch Snoky get punched on national
television at age like nine.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's Okay, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Which is crazy. Yeah, So I watched that a lot,
so it's big MTV with that shell. And then I
also watched what is it called? And I have this
girl's next door one yes, following girlfriend, but that.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
In the like Tila Tequila Rock of Love shows. I'm like, yes,
how did my parents let me watch these things? At
the ripe age ten?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I remember being a kid. I'm watching it, I'm like,
oh my god, they're dressing so and it's so funny too,
because like my friend in college, she grew up in Veil, Colorado,
and her dad was a ski instructor, and she was like,
we were talking about this show and she was like,
my dad met like taught them in one of the episodes,
like he was the ski instructor when he went to

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Veil and her dad gave her this little cute bunny necklace.
Not realize.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's the thing. Like I knew what Playboy was and
the idea it. It's not like I was like filtering
through it at ten. Yeah, but I had no issues
being like this is kind of weirder, this is off,
like especially that was on TV.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
See too, like to give the show a little bit back,
like those three girls weren't like always in the magazines,
like they weren't the ones like fully showing like they
weren't his girlfriends. Yeah, very fucked up concept for that
in general obviously, But it's like we were just watching
their lives, like watching them hang out and stuff. I

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know Kendra had to spin off, like that's true, everyone's
still together.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
It was like them living in a sorority house in
a sense. It's kind of how it came off. I
loved Kendra's show afterwards too. I just, yeah, that's a
good throwback for bringing up.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
She's kind of having a comeback, Like I feel like
she's been on podcasts I've seen, like.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I know she has a podcast, yeah, and how all.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Which as she should like honestly, yeah, I think for
the best that she didn't get a ring with him
and like she'd be locked in with that man, but like,
out of all those girlfriends, she should have gotten the work.
I remember being like tend to like, why is Hollie
not getting engaged to these girls?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
But hey, for the best for her.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yes, No, she's like thriving now, so I'm very happy
for her. Yeah, they watched that, and then I also
was an og watcher of Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh my god, me.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Too, like before they really had that money, Like and
I'm like twenty seven. I think I'm Kylie's age almost
like a couple of months upon. Yeah, so like now
they think about Like when I was watching this, I
was like, oh, I'm watching like just a child like
my age and her insane family. But I remember like

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thinking about that reflecting because I was like Rob dated
Adrian for the Cheater Girls and then I remember like
in the series, he's like she's going to India to
film like the third Cheater Girls movie. And I was like,
am I like too young for Kardashians or am I
getting too old Cheeterah Girls. I was like, my world

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should be colliding like this.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I feel like that's what made me love Rot though
is I was like, he's dating my girly like like
I'm a superstar in my mind. I agree, I'm me
And I miss those early keeping Up the Kardashian days
where it was truly like the feeling like most of
them lived together and they were like playing pranks on
each other and doing all of that stuff. Like it's

(12:29):
gotten so far away. From it that I can't watch
the Kardashian show on Huluna No.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
And like early Kardashians, they were giving, Like Kim gave
us the you don't put a sticker on a Bentley line, yeah, like,
which is hilarious and I mean, I don't know she
would potentially say that now now that she's like so
famous and like definitely produce and everything. But it was
just so fun like seeing them just like be an
insane family, yeah, which.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Like that's what riality TV is all about.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's like, just give me the like authenticity of like
you're insane fro family or find group or something. I agree,
and those are.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Like my big I think we have to be careful
too with like reality TV of like shows going on
for too long. Like you said, the Kardashians are so
produced and being or pump Rules got to that place
too where Tom Stanabal literally would stop speaking with people
if a plane went overhead like that's crazy. How much
made them poor and how much? Yes, I want them poor.

(13:25):
I want them authentic. I want them grinding, and you
know what is giving that next gen and wise those
are my people. They're rich and they're still giving it.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yes, and it's so so I was kind of like,
not anti next gen musy, but it kind of felt weird.
I was like, this is like probably one of the
first shows in like I mean other than Love Island,
but Love Island I would consider like a reality game,
like that's of a very different type versus just like
following random people. So I think I was like, this
feels crazy watching like twenty.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Two year old City.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm just like, oh am, I like a little old.
Now that I've gotten into it, I'm like, no, this
is what we needed. The rawness. Yes, some mix of
having kids who grew up on Bravo through housewives who
are somehow more sane the actual like nepotism kiddings who
are just rich in the York because that's a specific

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type of brand of rich tale that's so true. But no,
you got me hooked on it though, like your and
Alicia's like recaps, I'm just talking about it. I'm like, Okay,
I should like give this a fair shot, Like if
Meredith likes this, I probably will.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I tell people, because I watched that first episode and
I was like, no, this is horrendous. They really epped
it up that first episode. But I thought, let me
give it one more shot, and it got way better
and the ratings came out recently and it is the
best like premiere on Bravo years like this at is
so incredible.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
No did they because I know, like with some reality
TV shows and maybe I was streaming, we've shifted away
from that, but like there used to be just like
a pilot and then they'd be like a time, like
even like I know Scripted obviously has that too, but
like even reality shows kind of had I feel like
a little bit of that time where there'd be like
a break, but I think Next Gen was like full
like we're just going in headfirst.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
In the filming of it. You're saying, yeah, yes, Usually
they film the pilot in like the executive producers will
go then shop that pilot around and all that from there,
then they pick cameras backup, so you usually do have
a lull of I would say anywhere from four months
to a year. And that's like we saw that a
lot on Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, but a lot

(15:40):
more played into their cameras down with like Tailor's Arrest,
But this one, I agree. I think they went straight
into filming and I wonder if it had to do
with those Bravo kids being in it that Bravo obviously
like picked it up immediately, or if it was dreamt
up in house and so they just were always gonna
shoot like eight episodes because really had a little bit
of time in between, Queen.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
But yeah, because you're also too getting like the families. Yeah,
which is nice because I watched a little bit of
Salt Lake City Housewives, so I knew Meredith mm hmm,
and like it's fine. When my friend other friends who's
like a big Real Housewives fan, I text, I was like,
I think merediths kind of fun, and she's like.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
She's like on on next No, next Gen NYC. I
love her even like the first season of Salt Lake City,
I think she was way better. She's gotten a little
more psycho on Salt Lake City.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
And that's why I've heard because I think I only
got there like half of season one because I just
could not with the woman dating her married her grandpa.
I couldn't. I was like, this might be too far, this.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Be my ceiling on reality TV? Is fucking your grandpa?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Praise? And then when I went on a Reddit, Oh
my god of like diving into it favorite pastime.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh my gosh. Okay, give me your full breakdown of
next Gen NYC. Who are your favorite characters, storylines you loved.
So Charlie's sus okay, but like in a great reality
TV villain way, he's.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Just so like sometimes I do have to like skip
through him just because I'm like, dude, I know like
what you're gonna say, Like, I know you're just gonna
be like potentially.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
The dude racist.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yep, yep, dude, why are you? I wonder how the
casting was because I'm like, dude, why are you twenty
nine hanging out with like twenty four year olds?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Okay that is, I don't fully fault him on, because
I do wonder if production had to play in that,
if you just like had some friends who were twenty
four Yeah, because I have friends that are like forty
years younger than me. But I don't yeah, whole friend
group of twenty years, like twenty two years, I say,
twenty four year old.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I think it's like him being like the oldest by
like a long shot, and the it's just it just
skips to like twenty five and under beyond that. Yeah, yeah,
because I think like as like I'm a ninety seven
baby like people tell me i'm but also like I
definitely probably have some millennial in me. So it's like
it is that weird gap in him being like one
year two years older than me. I'm like, I feel

(18:09):
like I'm like, is he even gen z kind of
like no, I mean him being a crypto trader.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
And you have to think this was filmed a year prior,
so like he's probably my age thirty thirty. Yeah, now,
so I would find it weird to hang out with
twenty two year olds. However, for a Bravo show, I
would probably do it.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, So I think for him it's like obviously Brava
loves their male victim, like who's like trying to get
late and that shit, Like we we've seen the blueprint.
I think just part of me though, is like it's
him like immediately kind of breaking that fourth wall that
kind of pissed me off of being like telling to
Georgia you're only here because I'm here, like I got

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you cast it was like, my guy, we're on season one.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Like I agree. However, I would rather someone say what
they really think than like, yeah, say it in a
coded way that feels so weird.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, no, So I'm curious how like because I guess
they're filming now.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
If they do get renewed, which I assume.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
They game renewed, they're gonna get renewed for sure, but
we haven't seen I haven't seen word that cameras have
been picked up, and with the people are saying, I
know you're not a Real Housewives person, but real houstives
in New York was put on kind of pause, not officially,
like they haven't like filmed their next season for like
a year and a half. That people are saying if
nextion NYC films before Rony, like that's crazy that these

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kids really are the future.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
But also too, like I think with Housewives like sometimes
especially us being in Chicago, Like I know that there's
always been rumors they've tried like Chicago, but it's like one,
I think Midwest culture very different than these like other
rich cities. Agreed, Like it's just not the type like
to people one people want to be on reality TV,
Like that's not really I feel like as much of

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a culture here and like people know each other even
it's crazy, you guys are all connected by like two
degrees and that's two.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, And the money that lives in the Midwest is
really old money from like long steaming businesses like I
grew up in Saint Louis. The Bush family, like from
Anheuser Bush, like they are old money. They would never
sign on for that stuff. Although this is a plug.
They distant, not the people worked for Anheuser Bush, but
some of the relatives did have a reality TV show

(20:31):
on MTV and it was a one season show. But
like the people you.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Want for My Housewives would never they do.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
They are workshopping it again in the suburbs right now now.
My friend's Alexis is always talking about it, like the
suburb that it's in, Like it's hard because Chicago was
also really spread out, not in the same way like
New York is that it is hard. You can't pull
from all the neighborhoods of each top person from each
one that would sign on.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
So yeah, but no, So I feel like it like
doesn't sometimes surprise me that like potentially, like New York
feels like a very young city, like that's I feel
like where I was trying to get it too. It's
like Beverly Hills, like you're not no one cares about
like the LA influencers, at least from a Bravo network standpoint,
But like New York is just like genuinely more of

(21:18):
a young city, Like people go there to chase their
dreams and stuff, but not.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
In the La Chas dreams, so they cannot like like sir, yeah,
got that version.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
So it does feel like having like the older like
the Real Housewives of New York. I'm just like, I
think it's almost like two on the nose, is why
I would see that, like the younger generation could kind
of fall through because they're the ones actually going to
the clubs, Like they're the ones experiencing like what people
think New York Yeah, and that's mean, you know what,
the trashy, but like we're.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Just they've done really well on Next Gen NYC with
going out and not being able to fail it but
being able to talk about it and letting the drama
like build off of each moment like that where Summer
House doesn't like if drama happened at a club, they
don't know how to talk about it and build off
of it in days after and in their interviews, I

(22:10):
loved the drama whenever they all went to the box
and Charge didn't like pay his fair share, but had
all the girls.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like me the money drama. I love a money drama
kind of deal. I think it's so funny because that's
something like as a viewer, we can't relate to a
money drama like that's genuinely something that's like I mean,
I think like Erica Jane, I'm from Beverly Hills because
I'm at her season where she just divorced Tom Dardy
and it's like, yeah, none of this can even relate

(22:38):
to wanting to marry and fucking old man for money,
like like this is why I'm gonna watch her do
it and do it WST.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
That's the thing is I want to peek behind the
curtain behind your money problems because my money problem is
like somebody didn't like pay me back for the twenty
dollars brunch that we are, yeah more than that, but
like the fifty dollars brunch, like that's not the same.
I want to hear about how that you got a
bill and it was ten rand. Whose credit card are
we putting.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
In just your life?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, And it's just like so interesting I think too,
like having them be so much younger. And I'm curious
with casting because just naturally, when you're in your early twenties,
like you're gonna ship friend groups maybe a lot, because
you're like maybe collogye, you are independent. But for these kids,
like they didn't really have that full full independence. I
mean even now, like they're getting mom and dad's money,

(23:25):
which is fine, like all for it, like be rich
and be annoying on TV for that percent, But I
think for them it's like I think they're willing to
actually butt heads just because they're like, well, if I
like be dramatic, I know, Bravo, I'll stay on. This
person might not like kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
So I'm curious, like natural, it's yeah, I was there
about to say the nepple baby thing. I think works
in the favor because you want to get out of
your parents' shadow, and so they're willing to try to
like make some drama and make their own name. Like
they don't want to be Kim Zosiak or Candy Burris's
y child. They want to be our Rianna Beerman.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yes, they're like it's stupid drama still, but it's like
entertaining stupid drama and then being so.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Dark, Like a lot of shows have gotten so dark
because you constantly have to build up, build up, build
up to the point we're watching The Valley. It paired
with The Valley on Tuesdays was a lifesaver for me
because the Valley would be so heavy. And then we
yea like shift into next Gen NYC and I'm like,
thank god, let's go fight about ten grand at a club.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Let's or like fight about like Eva not going to
Books's birthday because she was like I didn't want to
sit in the car for ten hours. I'm like, honestly, Ava,
you have the means that, like you should have just
done that, but also like I guess that's so.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Wait wait, wait, like can we back up on that,
because I don't think I think she could have gone
without the whole I had to wait in a car
for ten hours because remember Charlie was on FaceTime with her,
and then she was in New York on like day
two of the trip. But I don't think. I think
the last day of their day in the Jersey Shore

(25:06):
was when her event was and then to find out
it was like a pop up store was crazy. Yeah,
I think she didn't want to go, which is fine, yeah,
but you're here to make a show and you're not
giving anything.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
You're not showing up because like Brooks's Jersey short, which
just everything comes back to the Jersey Shore, like Brooks'
Jersey Shore birthday, like we know from Bravo that like
they have to do a trip, like we gotta get
them out of their like homes and.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
We gotta get them all together in one house and
like shit's gonna happen, and we love it, like that's
what we're here for.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
But yeah, I know, so I feel like that was
and they kind of get from my Brooks then, like
if we're thinking that sense of like you're gonna be
paid like hang out with us to an extent, like
and you're still not gonna come to my birthday, bitch.
I I know Brooks has thoughts, like a lot of
discussion like around him, but they do think like he
does bring a nice fresh air and I do love

(26:02):
too that he yes, is a Housewives kid, but he's
like a newer Housewives kid. We haven't watched him from
like eight years old. Like figureut which Housewife girl it is?
Where she was the meme and she's like we can.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Know Maia Gia Jude Ice, she was like on it, yeah,
from like six years old and beyond, and same with
honestly Riley and Arianna, we're on it like yeah, like
eight years old. Yeah, their whole life has been in
the spotlight, whereas Brooks did grow up and in college
got put on a city that would be a lot easier.

(26:36):
But it is nice to kind of get to know
him more and he is a little bit more grounded.
He's more just he's that perfect bridge between just a
rich kid and the Bravo kid because he was already
at NYU by the time Salt Lake City started, so
he like got to meet friends in New York City
and be a rich kid there and then got the

(26:57):
Bravo spotlight thrust upon him.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, And I feel like, like I.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Saw a comment that was like, sometimes it feels like
he's out of place a little bit, but I think
that's kind of nice like for him especially also too,
Like I think, if I'm correct, he's the only gay
cast member for I think so because.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
He's one open and has discussed it, I think.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
On the show. Yeah, and like for him, like considering
like this cast because I have a friend who's in
the LGBTQ a plast community and like she jokes, She's like,
I've got you guys who are my straight friends. But
then like and his next gen, myc these are his
straight friends.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
That's so true. I would love to see his relationship
next season. Yes, I didn't know he was dating someone,
and so to find that out on the show, I
was like, my guy, give me more, my god. Yeah,
and Brooks cracking up that. He like I was cracking
up that. He was like, Oh, we're gonna get engaged.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
And the guy's like, hello, just giant is so funny,
and like I was like, give me that man, Omar Joe.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I was thrilled at the ending. Well, I was like,
what are we doing? There's so much There's still fifteen
minutes left whenever. The ending was like happening of the
season finales.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Okay that was season finale.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, it was weird because of that last fifteen minutes
and they kept zooming through the like seasons.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yes, I think it's only to get to yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
But it was just to get to that. Georgia and
Omar broke up, and I was like, I was like,
well worth it, well worth wasting my time for ten minutes.
Thank you for that. Thank God they're broken.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Up, Georgia. Thank you, Charlie Georgia.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
She might have her ups and downs, but I think
like in a way she is weirdly the most grounded
and like for her job, Like her job is a promoter,
which girl, do it events? Like you're in New York,
you're young, Like she's basically kind of doing like I
feel like the influencer, but like actually attaching a career
to it and like learning grey Hills, which I respect

(28:58):
a lot, especially for her.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Like a hitomie of the New York Hustle.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yes, And I think it's really good too because like
for like fans who I'm sure like people like living
in New York, it's like, oh, that's like actually nice
to see like someone like who is kind of like
one of us in a way, Like you do need
someone who is like genuinely at the heart. I mean
I feel like, for example, like Louisa Vanna prop and
like Kyle Richards like they are Beverly Hills. Yeah, you

(29:25):
do need that like cliche kind of person and yeah,
like I mean Charlie in and the way I guess
is cliche in New York. But like in a really
annoying way. But I feel like Georgia is great. I
do find his and her dynamic very funny. You mean
the Doubts are still living together, whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
It is, give me Andy and a camera. I need
season two filming right now.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well and when he was and she was like, oh yeah,
like ironically, man, Charlie are like roommates now, I was like,
maybe he actually do have some of a friendship, because
like that's a lot, like why what they do. It's
a lot to have one be like yeah, like she's
literally not in the country. You can drop of her
stuff at my place. Like that's a decent friend.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
My favorite thing is that he left it in the
hallway though he's like I'm not moving those Oh and
that's a man. And also that's such friend that's a
rich people building if there's all these boxes and nobody
touches them, Like how long were those sitting there?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Gosh? Like have a couple of friends New York that
are like full gen z like twenty five, like twenty four,
And I'm like, you guys need to find these group
people and tell me, like I need to know like
what this is actually like in real life. I'm curious
if they'll ever I guess they didn't do like Hampton's
because they went Jersey Shore.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, okay, Oloros. This brings me to a question I
have for you if season two started filming, who what
are at least two people? You can drop more than
two people, but what are two people that you would
drop from this cast?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Oh gosh, I mean I think, like just watching Wise again,
like I really just do not care for Charlie, but
I know that he does make a lot of the drama,
so I'll keep him.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, I do think like in.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
A way, Ava is a little useless and like considering
that she like couldn't even fully commit, I feel like
to this trip, I'm just like, okay, like if we
need to cut eye girl, bring in. I think, honestly
more dudes, I feel like because we have a really
good grands Yeah, but we have a great handle on. Like,

(31:32):
I really like Arana, even if she flip flops a
little bit, and I know that's a census ship in
the bro she is a star, but she like and
she's gorgeous, and I really like I know, like I've
seen like your clips of like you and Alicia being
like I can't believe we like Zaxby's boys or whatever
his dad's business is.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Hudson, I love him.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I need more him too, and like, honestly, get his
friends on the show, like one of my real friends.
I think would actually be good because Ariona probably already
has a relationship with that dude.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, and then it would be interesting are.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
The girls with him? Oh?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I like this. I like this.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I need dating better, Fumles, I need dating among these people.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's a good point. That's a good point because we
already had, like we have the long staining like just
platonic friends between Georgia and Charlie, and I like their
dynamic of the infighting. But you're right, we need some
other type of couple fighting, whether it's long staining friends
or relationships. I like the idea of bringing a friend

(32:42):
of Hudson's on in him dating one of the girls.
I really think Gia needs to go or she needs
to move to New York City because the fact that
she is not here is so weird.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
It does feel crazy, like when it clips to her
and she's just in a huge backyard and it's like
then we have the hyke to her.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Would like make her a friend.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Of agreed, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Like give her a little bit, like she obviously doesn't
mind doing it, but I think also like her, she's
truly Jersey and I don't even know where she is
in Jersey.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Is she had Hoboken.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
No, I think she's literally at her mom's. She's like North,
Like she's okay, so she's like North Jersey.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
So I was gonna say, like, you have the people
who live in Hoboken who like they really are city
people like Jerseys practices, but they're like literally just a
jump over them.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yes, and like to some parts of Manhattan are closer
than like other parts, you know, Like, yes, if she
was in Hoboken, I would say keep her on, but
she literally lives at her house. I'm pretty sure in
the suburbs she's like taking like a two hour journey
door to door.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Like to get this, they do agree, Like even Drama
wized like she felt like she just felt the need
to add on versus like actually doing something. That is
so such a good point because honestly, like if I
didn't just like fully binge it into the past two days,
I have a real thank.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
You for your service.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well, like if I didn't just binge it all in
like the past two days and then watch Late Todays.
I'm like, I honestly would have kind of forgotten about her,
Like I'm the only thing I remember give us Ariana.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Well, the only thing I remember that she did is
she hosted them for a pool party. But it's not
like she did anything or like had any real conversation
because the drama was on the bus to the house
and then she, because of Brooks's birthday, planned again anything
related to Jersey. I'm like, oh, Gia planned that, but
that's it.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, no, I And I'm curious, like what the casting
is gonna look like if they're going to bring new people.
I do hope that they bring new people, like again
like gen Z like to an extent, especially in New York,
Like I'm sure they can find people. It's just like
really finding chemistry, but you know, like they really I
think nail it casting wise, especially like having that like

(35:02):
I wish like in a way, like I focused more
on like before this season even premiered of what people
were even guessing wise when like how are the Housewives
kids gonna mix with these kids?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Like how's that gonna work?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Because it's like the Housewives kids, like what are their parents,
what are their mothers telling them about like Bravo production,
Like I mean in a way like hey, like you
gotta be prepared for this, you gotta know this d
D kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I I like that part of the drama was I
don't want to be with those Housewives kids. I'm like, hell, yeah,
tell me why you hate them, because we hate you
before it.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah. No, it's and it's the first time that we're
seeing like truly like on purpose repercussions of adults being
on reality TV with their families. Yeah, which I because,
like you think about like I mean Jersey Shore. I
think because Snookie was literally pregnant in season six, like

(36:00):
Shels like she's mother she is, and like obviously that
show got revammed, like they have jerseys for our family
vacation with her all parents now and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
But that next generation is still so much younger, so young.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
They don't comprehend it, like and maybe they're just like,
oh well. Also branding wise of reality TV, MTV versus
Bravo versus like HE versus like ABC, it's such different
energies that like MTV is gonna be obviously very trashy
and stuff like hundred percent, but like Bravo feels like

(36:33):
that mix of trashy but also they try to be classy.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
There is still this era of like more respect if
you're on a Bravo show, which just depends on what
Bravo show and what you did and everything, but you
can remain above the freight and a Bravo show and
have that legacy and be like my mom was on
a Bravo show and now we're literally I mean the
show is like called Next Gent, but like it's weird
to see the like fold over of legacy net babies

(37:02):
getting reality TV shows just because their parents had them.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, no, one hundred cause I think even Summer House,
like with the past season, like obviously they brought on
Lexi and Bailey and sounds like funny enough. They have
a new cast member called Bailey or named Bailey I
should say, which I think that's a low confusing but
kind of hilarious. But it's like Lexi I think was
supposed to be like they I remember like during the
show would be like, oh she's gen z. I'm like

(37:26):
she's liting. My age does not act like it, but
she's literally well.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
When you have Kyle who's forty years old, like, yeah,
gen Z is a little harsher. Also, she is like
very gen Z in her makeup and in everything like
that would send the Victorian child Kyle into a coma,
Like he's probably so confused about her lipline and her
lip combo every time it looks better.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
And it's funny too, because I remember, like that was
premiering and Next Gen NYZ was like announce and people
are like, get Lexi on this next Gen. But now
that like we fully seen a whole season, I'm like,
oh my god, she would not have like she doesn't.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Work because she's been in the industry and modeling and
been so independent like she I think socially doesn't jive
with them. But I like the idea of a holistic
gen Z cast because I think that's the better intro
into gen Z reality TV like cast members just like
you mentioned like Love Island, Like, although that's like a

(38:26):
competition show, like that's becoming all gen Z, but when
it's all of them together, it doesn't feel as weird.
Between Lexi and Kyle on Summer House.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah yeah, now, yeah, I think just then too, I
agree with Jia, and yeah, I get Ava off my TV.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
And same, I do that, and I wan Chai the
guy who was at the Jersey Shore, Let's give him
some more spring time. He was speaking up like he
was just a friend of last season. I think he
was part of the group of the Raal cast before
the Bravo Kids came in. Like half of the original
cast dropped out when the Bravo Kids signed on, and

(39:07):
Shi said he would. I don't know if maybe there
just wasn't room for him because there were already so
many people, or if he was just like, yeah, I'll
be around. I just don't want to be a focal
point if it's not my friend group anymore.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
But I feel like too, it's like not only are
they getting like housewife kids, but like they're getting pretty
like iconic housewives like kids, Like I never watched Housewives
in New Jersey. I should. I think that's on my
list after I catch up on Beverly Hills.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
You should. That is literally because that is the only
show on Bravo that has like the family ties, and
Jersey always remains with these like family ties. It's so weird.
It's such a capsule of like.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Point for me never watching that, but I know who
Teresa is. I think that's her name obviously, yes, well
that that woman's face. And then like I mean salt
Lake City, I think Meredith like made her mark. It
did help that Salt Lake was a newer Housewives that
really came to the gates swinging for a Housewives like
division premiere. And then who else is there? That's brox

(40:18):
Gia And then we have Atlanta, which I didn't really
know them too, but it sounds like their beef was
like Housewives Nation.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Let me give you a little bit of the beef
because I actually really want to cover Kim Zolciak in
my timeline. Yes, because like I loved Atlanta the early seasons.
That was like I watched every Housewives franchise on Bravo,
like my family had the little DVR thing. I was
watching reality TV round the clock as a child. Again,
I don't know what the hell my parents were doing.

(40:49):
So Kim and Candy. Kim was on there from season
one and then Candy came in season two I think,
but early into the franchise, and Candy is a well
known songwriter, like part of a girl group and Kim
had always wanted to be a singer, so Candy helped her.
Not joking, Jill. The minute you see the episode where
like Kim is in the booth singing, You're like, you're

(41:12):
horrid like you were, you have no so you.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Bring that up. That is one of my favorite niches
within reality TV is when they're like, I'm gonna be
a singer, like we got Kim Kardashian singing up the
jam or whatever. You got good as golden bangers.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
You can be a one hit wonder if you're a
reality TV star. I will say. Kim's downfall was she
she did keep going say with Sheena, like I just
did Sheena's timeline and Mac Curlely has so much. But
so Kim does a song called Don't Be Tardy for
the Party, and honestly it's a banger. I'm gonna give
it probably Top five and Bravo for me, and they

(41:53):
auto tuned the hell out of her, I will say.
And Candy did all the work, she did, like all
the producing, like you didn't write the song, but they
like bought the song and Kim like gave her no
money from it. And at the reunion of and Lianta
like that was a discussion the reunion is Kinny was
like crying. She's like, I'm not asking for you to
like give me all the money, but just like I

(42:14):
worked hard on this and you're giving me nothing, and
Dandy sued her like for her like equals of it. Yeah,
so it it blew a hub and Arianna and uh
Riley Riley never saw each other.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
So interesting because from what we've given gotten, I think
they have they could have a genuine friendship, and it
seems like it's not just for cameras maybe, but I
do I don't know when like both of them are
like I don't know what the drama was with our
moms and I don't touch it. I'm like, really, I think.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
You know the topic, but I think they don't know
the nuances and probably the court case because like the
court case did go through, So I think that's what
really made them never be like, Okay, I'm never going
to rebuild this friendship on my own because the whole
court case about it. But they are genuinely friends, is
what I hear. They I think when we're two together.

(43:11):
When Leah from Love Island season six, she was on
watch what Happens Live, they both sat in the audience
because they love her. And then I think also when
Arianna was on Watch What Happens Live, like Riley was
in the audience, and like she said that they have
seen each other talk to each other every single day
since she's moved to New York.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
And such a special like bond. Yeah, especially like being
from the same franchise too, Like I think you can
make bonds across franchises, but like to them genuinely and
their moms like having this friendship before the fallout. It's like, yeah, no,
like their friendship seems really sweet, like they really like
just watching them. It's kind of like a Katie and
arian the situation from banapomp rolls from watch them like

(43:51):
be like giggling and just hanging out too.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
And I think it's interesting their dynamic of really always
appreciate when I get to peer into racial discussions because
I obviously am not a person of color, but I
think reality TV is a great way to learn about
other people's experiences, and so Riley expressing, you know, how
people are treating her and how with the lens of
race on that, and Ariana like learning when interact with

(44:17):
things and when to not I think is a really
good thing that everybody can learn from.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, I think it's the they're talking about Ava and
this is like I guess not that I'm talking about
the race thing, but it just cracked me up when
because Ariana was Brooks's mouthpiece and it's like her voice
over being like, don't give in, don't give it because
just knowing that she probably had to go to like
of recording booth watch like and be like and do

(44:44):
the voice.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
I think about those all the time with Brooks's I
hear people don't like those. I think it's so funny.
I don't need it to be a sample because Brooks.
I think it works so well because he's always mute
and he literally that is probably I mean, not his
exact thought, but those are so hilarious.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Like that is what gen Z humor is like as
Bravo Nation, like you do need to bring up this
new generation of like reality TV people and like at
this rate too, with so many franchises of housewives, just
so many series, it is daunting, like so to give
like gen Z like eighteen year old nineteen year olds
right now a really easy end to be like, no,

(45:28):
I can relate to these people.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, I think it's over.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Has cracked me up, especially because it's like I'm.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Referring to it also like it gives a little bit
of that TikTok nature where a lot of people will
post like a voiceover with some type of audio and
then you put a caption of like what you're thinking about,
Like it is really giving that type of like leaning
into like you said, gen Z Wait, I love it.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
It's just him though, like being like quote and Meredith
mark S do. Like. I love that he refers to
his mother as her reality TV like persona. I'm sure
it is mostly her, but it's he cracked me up.
I forgot he was like more the og of doing that.
But I love a voice over moment. I love when
you have to like produce after films because it's just
so funny.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
And it's not like wildlines that they're just like trying
to turn in the narrative. It's just like, okay, like
give us some random lines, some random thoughts of what
you're feeling in the books.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
You actually gave us nothing this whole scene. You're gonna
give us something else.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Such a good point. Well with that, anything else you
have been watching outside of Nextion and Y see.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, so I've been Yeah, so I'm fully caught up now.
As I mentioned, i' mind like the Tom Jardy Erica
divorce pending, But honestly, I like, I like, who are.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
You loving on Beverly Hills during that era?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I love Crystal obviously, and I think and it's really
interesting too.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Those for those who don't get videotalization.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Obviously, I was like, I feel like, obviously she's like
the last Psycho. It seems like, oh that you do
well that that franchise, especially, I feel like you get
such rich people that they do lose touch, and then
that franchise is like in.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Such a different world than others that I'm.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Like, yeah, it was really interesting. Like I just hit
the episodes like and finish them where it's the election,
like this is the COVID season. They haven't seen each other,
Kyleso's seen an election night like, and it's just really
interesting to see such out of touched woman discussing very

(47:30):
heavy topics like shout out, like the fact that in
season one of Next Gen NYC we're already getting the
racial discussions. I'm like, no, much like call him out Riley,
Like I stand for that.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Even Summerhouse when they had those discussions.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I really appreciate that. Like, you know, there's been a
point like even in this past season with m Erle
and he's talking about like his status and like how
like his immigrates to the country and everything, and it
was so like interesting.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I'm sure you and Elisha I.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Have spoken on this, but like when m Erle refers
to himself as illegal immigrant and Kyle not in like
a white man's spinning way, but he's just like no,
like undocumented, Like like he's like in a way like
that term doesn't mean anything like illegal what, No, it's
you're just undocumented.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
It just kind of like to show the generational shift
of like our generations really like wanting to treat people
with such respect and humanity. Like yes, he's using a term,
but Kyle's like no, no, no, no, like don't even like
that's a dehumanizing word.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, So I just really appreciate, like, I don't know,
like those tougher conversations. It's honestly been like hard I
like watching this season just because of the ignorance, and
it's a tough one to sit there and watch I
really got skipp through her stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Like I will say that I think that is one
of the first seasons that at least I can remember
that really tackled those conversations. So it is really tough
and jagged, but it hadn't really been done yet, no,
so it was like nice break in the ice. And honestly,
like every white person in America is very lucky that

(49:06):
like these conversations were being had on TV rather than
like in their own homes, and we got to learn
from other people and start with a lot of respect
that we were overlooking. And it's it's uncomfortable conversations and
but definitely need to be had, like you, like you
reference like Nextion and five so early, Like it's so

(49:28):
nice that like a people of color have a voice
to a be on the show and then feel confident
and comfortable to bring up issues without being attacked like
they probably would have had prior to twenty twenty. Well,
we obviously had this whole shift because of George Floyd.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, no, one hundred yeah. And I think too, like
in a good and ana bad way, like you have
the various like levels of discussion and reactions like Crystal,
I think does a really good job. I mean, being
an Asian woman in America is so different than being
a Black woman in America, and even being a black
woman is very different than being like a black man.

(50:05):
Like all these voices should definitely be heard. But I
do appreciate like Crystal just like kind of standing up
for herself, like especially in her debut season, Like you
have to say.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Her first season. That would have been really challenging anyways,
because you usually get a lot of pushback on anything
outside of the status quo, let alone a race topic
that is happening all around you too.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
But yeah, I know, so I've been really loving like
her and Garcel, like, I really do appreciate their friendship
and like when they do connect on those topics. I finally,
and I know this is such an unpopular opinion, I
think in the Bravo universe, I'm like finally getting to
a point where I'm like, no, Kyle is annoying, because
I've always that is not unpopular, No, but I've always

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really liked her. I think that's the.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Lot a lot of people go through a shift between
that season and I think than the next three.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
I think it's text of this too. I was like
I'll I feel like it's like Sheena where you don't
realize like she's like kind of the worst person or
like just really annoying on this TV Like she gives
great reality because like she's willing to be messy. They're
both willing to be messy. But I think like she stops.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Being messy in a helpful way for a show, Like
she stops bringing things to the forefront. And I Alicia
and I always say that you know, there's a characters
and there's B characters in TV shows when you become
a C characters when you get cut. So it's okay
to like not be the main storyline for that season,

(51:38):
but you still have to like show up, participating discussions,
push the plot forward, have a little bit of your life.
And Kyle stops doing that. But I think she remains
on Beverly Hills because of her like legacy on it
and not she will probably help in production ways that
others are not at that point with the production team,

(51:59):
if that makes sense, Like, yeah, does that on his
own like over on Summer House.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Maybe he knows how Kyle, maybe it's the Kyle the
kyles Man.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Well, but I my thing too.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Why I think I really liked Kyle was one. I
think I know Mariy Sale has been having his moments
of hanging out with some younger woman, which.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Is very not in your time.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
He's giving me finally a hot housewife husband. He's hot,
he's kind of goog And their show, his show about
the agency, that was like basically you should watch it,
like if you like to Sunset, like you would like
this because again, family dynamic over dating dynamic. I think

(52:42):
adding a family thing one. It's just not the same
tropes every time, and like this is really interesting. But
like from that show, and obviously I'm sure he's part production,
Kyle's producing it, so they're definitely gonna paint their family
in a nice to light. But it does feel like
those like their kids are raised pretty like humble. That's good,
Like I would love if Alexia lived in New York

(53:05):
get her on, like I mean, like I really like
her personality and I think she's pretty like humble. But
also so I do like give credit to Kyle, mostly
because I know Marcia worked a lot and stuff, and
Kyle really loved being a stay at home mom. Yeah,
I think she did raise those kids right and That's
why I think I've always given her a little slack
because I'm like, she sounds like traumatizing her children.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Like that's a good pay well, And was about to say,
there's a lot of housewives where I'd like, ooh, the
stuff you either share about your kids or the way
you act is a bit too much. I agree. I
think Kyle is a great mom, and not to mom
shame others by any means, but that's a really good point.
Like family was so important to her, and I think

(53:49):
a lot of it probably ties to like her growing
up and the like craziness of her mom, Big Kathy
is like such an insane Kathy's crazy, that's what they
called her. Or because of Kathy, Like, man, yeah, if
you love family and husbands, I'm telling you, Jill, Real
Housewives in New Jersey is your life and your favorite

(54:11):
because the house husbands literally get their own scenes because
they are so entertaining. It's the only time I love
husbands being like involved because they literally will go golfing
and have all this debauchery themselves.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
No, and I mean like if your housewives husband, like
you should just be having fun like you usually you're
like actually working, but like housewives. Ironically, that's your vacation.
You just be like vibing making all the money because
you're on television now. I really loved doing like Mario
and like Paul Nassif I think it was this last name. Yeah,
I love like seeing them like and honestly like Adrian

(54:47):
and him, they were not a good couple together. They
use so much entertainment.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Oh really, if you're gonna love it, these New Jersey
they go get drunk and like one point they have
to carry one of the they all go to the
Jersey shore together another one of your loves, and they
they get so drunk. I forget if they're golfing or
just at a bar that day, and they literally carry
in one of the husbands because he got so hammered

(55:12):
and they're literally carrying him in, and the wife is like,
why didn't you do any of my husband too?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
That Like that just happens, Like if these guys are
like can be friends, like hang out, like it's not
just with the cameras, like I love when you get
those little like actual like no, these.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Are like friends and like you are.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Lindsay and Kyle and Carl I think are a great
example like that's they were actually friends. Kyle and Lindsay
have gone their lot obviously, Lindsay and Carl have got
their lives like Kyle and Carl and stuff. But it's
like end of the day, like they do have that
respect for each other to be like we've been carrying
the show and like as much as like I may
hate you one season, but it's like end of the day,

(55:49):
like we're all kind of like in each other's corners.
And I do love seeing that genuine like friendship or
like relationship.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
I should say, oh greed, which I hope like more
shows and cat take that from Summerhouse is at the
end of the day, you need to be friends and
you need to be able to move on and roll
into the next season without having these like long standing
like divisions between sides. Like it's too much. The facts Yle, Carl.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
And Lindsey broken engagement and they're chilling.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I mean they had one beef and which it's wrong
and it's moving sober, probably for the first time on
this show. And she's like you weren't you here man? Okay,
see the family we have like Sierra and Wes West
very I'm sure deep relationship like from all the stuff

(56:41):
that I've really dug in, like his friend passing, he
went to her like she really laid it out on
the table, this regime, which like I really appreciate, I
love her. I'm a big stand of Sara, but yeah,
like it's funny that like them too. And West even
makes a common when he's asking Lindsay for a money
basically just went door divorce. I'm the one freaking out

(57:02):
about my.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Like situation situationship. It goes to show that like those
like four months situation ships hurt worse because of like
what you thought it would be, whereas the broken engagement
in thousands of dollars loss and a new baby in
the picture is like less dramatic.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
No, it's it's funny, Like Summerhouse carries like they know
what they're doing, and hey, we love a backdoor pilot,
because that's when I got the Summer House. I started
my Bravo journey was Houselice of Beverly Hills. And then
once we got that backdoor pilot to Banner Purples, I said,
what's ship, here's here and full to the point where

(57:44):
I want a trivia team of one for Van and
I went up to the guy who's running a trivia goes,
what is your team?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Like, it's just me, not the team of one Jill
now that we know each other, because this had to
be invite me always, No, we.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Will annihilate like any Bravo because you have like the
Housewives and stuff, and like now we have like the
news shows, we could kill it. And when a twenty
dollars time, oh god, oh yeah, Now I really I
love Bravo Nation. I think it's really fun and I
love like how big of a like just network it is.
Because yeah, like I was really for a while once

(58:23):
I'd got into vander promptroles and then Summerhouse, I was
really anti Housewives because I'm like, I love seeing the
young'ins fight each other. But then once I got back,
I was like, no, but they do love just seeing
rich lifestyles.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Absolutely, and I would say the pre like twenty fifteen
Housewives are they're so different too, Like they weren't there
was no social media or like if there was, it
was like Twitter, and they honestly used to tweet so much.
So it's so funny when like Twitter drama like beef
gets involved. But now it's even worse.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, which is hilarious. I've only gotten tiktoks from like Wes,
I mean follow him on TikTok because he's hilarious. And
it's like I'm already seeing like the little clips that
like I know they're going to probably splice into the
episodes next year.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah, I do know.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I hate seeing them having fun and knowing they're having
so much fun.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I mean, like I have to wait almost a year
to actually watch this.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
That one's harder because you know what's happening every summer
and it kicks off with Fourth of July and like
we're living our summer and I'm thinking about their summer
and we have to wait six months to see it.
But by the time like October hits, I forget about it,
and then I feel like I go brain dead and
I forget about ninety percent of the things I saw

(59:38):
the entire summer, and then we get a like yeah it.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Because I was actually gonna say too, like Spring, I
feel like it's really heavy with like reality TV because
like you got Summer House. I mean, I don't know
what's going on with vanderpart Rolls. I've kind of topped down.
I feel like post scandal honestly they I heard.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
And have seen some like quote unquote cast members, yeah,
like thrown around, but I haven't seen as much press
or paparazzi photos of them filming to feel as confident.
So I don't know if they are fully filming this summer,
if they've done a pilot, yeah, if it would fulfill
the old van or pump time slot where back reay

(01:00:15):
back in the day, it used to start in November
and then it started inching into like January. But who
knows without yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I was gonna say, like, what is like the fall?
I feel like schedule because I feel like it's spring
and summer. I'm pretty locked in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Salt Lake City, should show up?

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
So I guess like the Housewives, like they scatter like yes,
but I was only one time where Housewives weren't a
Housewife franchise wasn't on air, Like there was only times
like three or four weeks, and honestly, people were like
panicking because they had like dark times so many things.
But people in the therapy sessions like something's missing in

(01:00:55):
my life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
There have to be at least to Housewives. What's part
is Roney is not filming and New Jersey isn't either.
Roney is hard because like the casting situation, I think
they're trying to recast it, and there was a lot
of like very serious yes allegations on that, so I
think they're trying to just let that breathe. And then
New Jersey, the beef has gotten so insane that the

(01:01:21):
cast can't film together. They didn't even do a reunion,
so like, what where do you go to that they're
reunion Jill for the final season that air like two
years ago, they had they went to a restaurant and
had two different private rooms and the cast watched the
finale and reacted because it was that bad of a

(01:01:42):
finale and like they couldn't do a reunion.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Where you do find that line of like reality TV
entertainment versus like this is like real people, because I
do like again for the most part, like if you
can get a reunion pretty much even skin of all,
Like I'm sharing a way she didn't want to do it,
but I also thinkay, like it probably was cathartic for
her and I like allowed her to fully close that chapter.
But it's like as much as she probably hated him,

(01:02:07):
like there still was enough to be like I will.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Do this, like we will all be here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
If you don't show up to the reunion, you're I've
never seen somebody come back the next season and not
similar reunion. So you're standing the door on your reality
TV career. And Arianna has said she needed the money
from season eleven. So I do appreciate when people live
outside of their means and are beholden to the reality
TV check a little bit because you gotta keep giving

(01:02:34):
me that entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
No, because like you are fully like saying, yes, this
is the lifestyle and income the I want. Like celebrities,
it's like, oh I went into act and like, okay, cool,
I became like patro Pascal and like became really rich
and like actually famous. But it's like now reality TV,
like you're making an active decision to say for me on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Less Like with a movie, at least you I don't
know what the going rate is, but like let's say
you get like a few million dollars. You can live
on that for a few years and then go do
another movie later like hopefully. But reality TV they really
get you because then people are like, oh, I really
want hair and makeup for the show, and I want
to wear these clothes for the show, So then it
becomes like a Ponzi scheme on your dollars where you're

(01:03:18):
spending all this money for what on air.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
That's such a good point too, because yeah, like I
mean to shift, I feel like Love Island beyond the Milla.
Have you watched Jill?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yes? And I hope you're about to talk about the
fucking glam because why are you getting Why are we
getting glam for episode but to sit at a restaurant?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
No? Lock that. But also, she's appamily dating a Laker.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Really, that's who she's dating. I haven't even looked into this.
I don't Hey, let me just say this before we
dive into this. I'm not loving this show. I'm sure
my glam comment came across. I think this is so dumb.
But I'm gonna give a ring, just like I gave
Next Gen n y C some room.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
I just so she's dating a Laker who Okay, down, no, no,
you're gone, Okay, it's your name, still live, Live live something?

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Is she still dating?

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Because people thought Kendall? Okay read it. Also, I don't
know if it's you do you do this too? But again,
like I say, I'm watching the episode, I go that
episode name read it. I like, I need to know
that I'm not the only one who like hates me
or like I'm not the one who's like standing this person,
because I definitely get some things.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I have, oh deep dive on Reddit for me. Honestly,
it's like way past things where I'm like, oh, that happened,
and Reddit will always know the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Now I can't find this, but apparently she is dating
like a twenty three year old Laker, and like that's
my friend, because like I think in one of the episodes,
there's literally two So the first time when Kenny Jenney
are talking about it and Kenny is like trying about
to like actually speak on her relationship and Jenny's like,
you can't talk, she doesn't want.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
It was the opposite. It was Kenny telling Jannay she
couldn't talk about it. Oh yeah yeah, and he's like,
I just told you that off camera. I love slip
ups like that, Like I love people being like I
don't know if you watch The Valley, but it happened
on the Valley finale too, Like when Danny org Nia's
like there's a camera and He's like, there's all these cameras.

(01:05:28):
Like I love like that because that is real life
now with reality TV.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Well, like now that people can genuinely have a career
just off of bouncing from one reality TV to another
reality TV kind of thing. But no, like I just
thought that was so funny, but now the glam fight
is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
That's what I mean. That is such a great example
of like the Housewives.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Whenever I feel like I guess Kyle a little bit
in the season I'm watching, like gets annoyed at Derry
getting glam before a workout of it, Well, it's because.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
She takes forever.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Yeah, But like that is what I'm saying, Like we
like gen z fights of like you tell me you're
getting glam.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
You tell me, guys, I don't want that. That's ridiculous.
These Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is the first franchise
to take gleam everywhere, and now every other show has
gleam everywhere, and it's like, Okay, those people are fucking loaded.
Why are you Love Island Beyond the Villa spending your
hard earned dollars on gleam? You guys wetched? You do

(01:06:27):
your makeup every weeks and you're good at it. I
understand the like which I hated this concept, the Love
Island summer party. I understand getting glam for like a party,
like a night out, but to go to a bar
when you guys actually know how to do your makeup
is crazy to me, as someone who puts on tinted

(01:06:47):
faced moisturizer to go to a bar and that's our glam.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
It's like, guys, I actually play that mess, Garrett, I
can touch my I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Like, did these eyebrows? Do you see how they're like
they're defined right now? Like damn? And then the fighting
about it. Jill I wanted. I literally was like, why
am I watching this show?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
You know what they gave us? It gave us. Kendall
being an inciator of course, being like hy you guys
fighting no, and then Janey being like, can get over here?
That wanted?

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
And then and then Jena being like, but tell me everything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
No, and that's what we want, Like you're saying, we
want the personalities like trust me to an extent. We
are here as beyond the villa fans to see Liam, Miguel,
Janey and Canny g and Serena and Cordell maybe a little.
I appreciate Taylor Aaron drama because like that's legit, like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Me too, but I'm like, let's get to it. Meet
up people. This is episode two. What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
So like that's why I'm saying, like I think the
way they filmed it and are really setting it up,
it is so interesting because like to come from like
Love Island, where they knew they had cameras on them
twenty four seven, they begging away though, that left them
kind of be like Okay, They're like, there's just always cameras.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Love Isolent is so different because they're all they're not
hidden by any means, but they're all like away from you,
and so you learn to live your life, whereas like
a cameraman in your face is so different. Like I
remember seeing when they were filming this that Kayler in
liver or fighting and everybody was like, this is fake.
And so to find out what this fucking fight was
about that pisses me off a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Even waiting Adre for this and You're like it makes
me think like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Are we are we so fucking is this? Are we
actually fighting about this? Are we doing this for cameras.
I guess I just doubt some of the stuff they're
fighting about because of course you want to show and
no shade on that, like, but you're gonna try really
hard the first few weeks of filming to secure a show,
so it gives you that income, especially if all these

(01:08:57):
people moved out to La Well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
And it's too like it's so interesting because like when
you watch the finale of like season six, like they
they announced the reunion, they didn't think America loved them
as like a whole cast to be like we want
more and I'm curious this season if like did America
really love this whole cast or is it just because
like the game is good, but like we kind of

(01:09:20):
said the president last.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Year, like yeah, everybody was hoping for something amazing off
the back season six, and I think it's a bad moment.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
You're like I'm saying, well, and you have to think,
like and you're definitely more of a Love Island Girley
than I And I know you've watched like UK and stuff,
but it's like, oh yeah, you think, like with all
the seasons that have ever happened, and for last year's
to be like We're getting a reality show. That's how
much America loved US as a cat.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Really good season even compared to like Love Island UK.
But I think it's just it's that I think Arianna
hosting brought in a whole new wave. Like I only
started season six because of Marianna, like I wanted that premiere.
I have a lot of numbers. Absolutely and by for
the first time, I never watch well. I have tried

(01:10:12):
to watch Love Island US in prior seasons and couldn't.
Like it just wasn't it for me. Part of the
lore is like the English accents are really you know,
like fun and the lingo and all that stuff, but
it just never hooked me. And last year I paused
Love Island UK to day to day watch US and

(01:10:35):
then I walked back and finished UK and I haven't
even started UK. Still I will go watch it, but
I'm like, yeah, all right, like I got a buck,
I needed a few weeks break of like hours and
hours of commitment. But this season wasn't it for me.
And obviously at Leisha and I did a whole deep
dive last week. But I will say the episodes, thank you.

(01:10:57):
The post villa stuff is pop up off and I'm
enjoying the drama and I can't wait for the reunion.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
And like because I feel like I was in it
last year, but not as heavily throughout the entire season
like this year. Like I do wonder like were they
as on social media last year, like people when they
were leaving and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Like as they are right, oh my god. Yeah, Okay,
wait you said you weren't watching it week to week
or like day to day last year.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
No, I like kind of like bopped in and out
last year.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Jill. Okay, when when Andrea left the island last year,
you know, when she got voted out in tears, she
was on she was on live on TikTok Okay, I
remember hearing about that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Well, and then it's they coming in with her notes
at the reunion page four. Let's get to it that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I don't think as many like early contestants were like
as chronically online as maybe this year, but like more
people were seeking it out too, so like I wasn't
seeing a lot. But I will say, like Connor from
season six, like went on a date with Katie Maloney
and like that was all over the press because like
paparazzi was all over him. So it was. But I

(01:12:05):
think people are making videos more because they just already
know the spotlights on them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yeah that's true. Okay, that makes sense. But yeah, I
mean like even one of my friends, she's like big
big Love Island UK, like Stan and even she was
like last season bleue Love Island UK out of the water.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Oh my god, yeah UK UK. A guy literally had
like a two pay His hair is so weird. I'm
gonna have to show you a photo whenever I see
you this weekend. His hair is so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I can't wait. Yeah no, so.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Yeah, oh yeah yeah. Give me your thoughts on Beyond
the Villa.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
So I really like it, I do think compared to
I feel like Next Gen myc like con say, they're
both new shows really focus on like gen Z for
the first time. Yeah, I think it is a little
you can tell it's a little produced, and like that
the Islanders feel produced versus Next Gen. They definitely felt
much more natural, just like being with cameras right in
their faces.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
But I don't feel like, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Just book by its cover.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
I would let this season cook because we probably go
if Next Gen and My see gets eight episodes. I'm
assuming we're also getting eight episodes, but.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Also give us more like reality TV should be like
fifteen episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I feel like most of Bravo's like first seasons are
about eight episodes, like even Real Housewives, Like I just
I just started to Rehabit Miami from season one and
that was eight episodes. So I think we forgot because
we're so used to now these eight episode seasons. But
he shows us to not be. So they went from
like eight to like fifteen to then like twenty six

(01:13:42):
and now we're like shrinking back down a little bit.
So yea, yeah, I think this season does need to
be eight, but let's let's get like twelve on Next
Gen NYC next season. And I had Love Island Beyond
the Villa will be eight. I'm alos to know. If
you think that, then like this season's Love Island people
are gonna make will integrate in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Well, That's why I like, I didn't really curious how
they're gonna like look at Love Island and be on
the villa because I could totally see it being a.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
One hit wonder show.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
At the same time, it really depends how much they
really want, like considering Love Isolin. Now I don't think
I think season six might have been the first year
it was like a Peacock original. Yes, yeah, which you're
getting Peacock money, so I feel like I'm curious how
much then Peacock's gonna be, like, let's invest in this.

(01:14:35):
That's a good point, like really lean into like Love
Island being like the Next Housewives kind of thing. Yeah,
maybe not to the extent obviously that's a huge it's
harder to be yeah, yeah, yeah, a massive franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
But yeah, like well they do basically a season six
show or like what they do. It doesn't even have
to be per season, but like this one's obviously LA based.
So there any Love Isoland characters like Amaya is New York?
Are they gonna have like a show in New York? Like,
could they.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Papaya in Next Gen NYC?

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
No? No, not her in nextion n Y see her
and her own beyond the villa like NYC.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
It's crazy though, you have to think they all are
in the same age group, like they could be friends.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Yeah, but they just they they're different world they're in
different game systems. Like no, I know, I know, I
watched all this stuff on Bravo. But it is hard
for me to go from like Love Island into like Bravo.
In my mind, I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa no one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
But yeah, yeah, but that's my thoughts. I'm really excited.
I'm curious how they're gonna really edge out these next
like six episodes. I want to see more PPGM because
like me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
That's that's really the core agreed, and yeah, but we
shall well like that's the like lighthearted story and then
kaylor Live and Ahran are going to provide like some
of the drama because we all like we need conflict
and we don't want to see PPG plus M in conflict,
Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Yeah no, oh my god, that would hurt cosa more
was enough. I wasn't even watching that live like I
knew that they ended up together and still watching that, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
My my god, how did we get here? No, I literally didn't.
I thought the whole season was fucked at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
It came over. Sorry, Ariana, your first season top.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
And I've seen seen people boomering back from some KASA
more experiences. I'm not joke. I listen. I love conflict
because I like when people get back together always it
hard to watch when it's real people and not a
scripted show and so to watch. But I do enjoy
when at least one guy brings back a girl from

(01:16:39):
like in a strong couple, like yeah, bas some more,
but like, wow, all of them doing it, Yeah, that
was tough.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Well, And it's the fact that like only them three
of all, I mean, Rob, who cares? Rob bring a
girl back? We don't care, You're just hot who cares?
But it's like the fact that like Aaron obviously fucked
up on his own, but like came back solo and
then Live chose her guy, so like she didn't care,
Like no one cared. I don't even think she had
a guy really to have Incsta Moore Kendall didn't come

(01:17:08):
back with anyone. So it's like the fact that those
third was crazy to watch that I when I want
to watch men get yelled at. I watched that episode.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Such a good such a good master class and putting
a man in his place.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
And I will say too, I think they said it
in interviews like that cast of Love Island and we
can like shift thend like this past season, they really
did make a point. I think it might have been
like Serena or something who was like, listen, if I
wasn't in this like scenario being on this show trapped
with my man, I would not have given him the
time of day after that fight. But she's like, Okay,

(01:17:42):
we're obviously here on this TV show like let and
I appreciate her breaking that forth wall to be like
we're in such a different scenario, like society are absolutely broken.
You can like you can get back with your man
and like really work.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Through it and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
And I appreciate that. Like that, they were like, we
will have this complex. I will yell at you. Cordell
did a great job. I feel like taking it. It's crazy.
I thing like he's because we're getting like kind of
the match of like Serena is twenty seven, Cordel is
twenty two. Yeah, how we're getting Ace five ten King
she was twenty two and Shelley he's twenty seven. I'm like,

(01:18:21):
should I be dating a twenty two year old?

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
No? That wouldn't make you know, remember what Serena said
that it was not normal dating live.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
I text your friends and my guys, I might crush out.
I need to date the twenty Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
The thing I think if you met a twenty two
year old who was mature and like they didn't know
they could work. Yeah, however, to go on like a
dating app and put that, I think your needle in
a haystack right there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
You would all have an intervention.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
For me, I would be concerned if your dating profile
was down to twenty two. That just is a waste
of time and energy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Dude. My the lowest side will go is twenty five,
and even that sometimes feels a little scary.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Trust me, I understand. I understand. Okay, wait, yeah, so
post Villa Life for season seven. I know we were
texting this week about listening to some of the episodes.
Let's go in chronological order. Did you watch Call Her
Daddy with Amaya Papayah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Okay, so I have, Like the only thing I've actually
watched is the Kiki Palmer, Shelley and Lange Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
That's good to know. Well, well, what I will tell
you about it was very fun with Amaya. I mean,
she's just a Maya. Like she gave us some little
phrases about how she she went through some shit and
basically took what's it called to like make your whole insides? God,
why can't I think of the medicine that you take.
It doesn't matter, But she just gave me more of

(01:19:46):
the random Amaya papayah sayings that will just I don't
know where she comes up with these things.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Now, my friends would text me some about like my
dating life, and they were like quoting her, and I
was like, this is so cute. I have to dig
for them to you afterwards. But now she's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
She feels like somebody would want to be friends with.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
I know, And I just really love having more of
a Maya like shine because while like on Love Island,
you're constantly competing with all the stories and all the drama,
and I think after a while there like Amaya and
Brian are not dramatic in such a great way, and
so I'm really excited to like watch their love story

(01:20:25):
vold and also give it room like they were a
late couple, so who knows what will happen outside of
the villa. Next up was hood Up on Call Her Daddy.
And I know you just mentioned that you've only seen peakies.
Let me just say this, I'm not a hoodis Stan.
I do stand her and understand her so well because
I also have been a crash out queen a time
or two in my life. However, I've gone to therapy

(01:20:47):
and really really worked on myself in the last probably
three years, so like she has time to do it.
But this just reaffirmed to me that she needs to
go to therapy. She spoke a lot about how she
was abused by her father growing up, her dad like
abused her mom, and I just I feel for everything
she's gone through and I can't imagine becoming a mother

(01:21:08):
at a young age. But what I will say that
frustrates me the most with Hooda in The Hood of
Stands is that Hooda gets every excuse in the book
or every explanation in the book of why she does
what she does. But if somebody does something to her,
it's they. There's no commentary, it's they are a horrible
person showing Callandrea or mean girls like it is immediately

(01:21:29):
a label on how that person is a terrible person
if they've ever spoken up or done anything to Hooda,
And that pisses me off.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
The thing that really rains true in reality TV that
I think has come up more like in the past
couple of years, is like multiple things can be true
I can have like a really awful upbringing and like
lash out and probably be in some ways like not
rightfully so, but like that's her reaction. Like and like
you said, she should go therapy, she should learn how
to grow and like take care of herself.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Like obviously it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Sucks that she was abused and like witnessed abuse in
her family and upbringing, but also like you're going on
national television girl that's probably become international at some point.
It's like you're now like on the face, like you
should really handle this and maybe take a back seat
a little bit and like actually take care of yourself
and your daughter, Like if you have a child who

(01:22:19):
is five, like you're awake age, like you're not just
like a baby like fresh from a womb kind of deal. Yeah. Yeah,
So I think that's where like the stands, it's like
I do like Agrede to some extent, Like she definitely,
I think with certain things, was treated portly, but also
like she definitely went so far. Oh my god, I
think of some good TV. Like I don't know if

(01:22:39):
she necessarily gave us like great TV with her crashouts.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Sometimes I was like worried about her. It's not like Serena,
like yelling at Cornell and like giving us a moment,
Like I think it's her having really big emotions, which
makes sense, like you're in a very strenuous environment, But
I think she also doesn't know her emotions. Again, as

(01:23:03):
someone who really struggled with that growing up, like I
didn't learn about my emotions. I didn't know what I
was feeling, and so the quickest way to react is
anger or sadness. Like that's a lot of times, all
you know. And so for her to have all these feelings,
not express them, but then hold other people to a
standard of treating her about her feelings that she doesn't

(01:23:23):
even do herself is really challenging because there's a communication gap,
Like other people don't know what's inside your head, and
so to be yelling at people and yelling all over
the villa and cheating everybody's experience is the difference for me,
Like Serena and Cordell, it was like their thing and like, yeah,
friends obviously got involved to make sure each other was okay,

(01:23:46):
But every every single week, Kuda was like making women
feel uncomfortable when they would first come in. She was
yelling at Jeremiah over the villa where other people like
were privy to it. It just it didn't work for
me in an entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Like well, because I would say, like a really great
point that like during my rewatches of the crashouts for
COSSO last season, it's like it's it's the fact that like,
like Miguel bought a girl back, so him and Leah
obviously there's probably was the least dramatic, but like that's
still a little tension of like Lea's like, no, I
know the man, He's gonna bring a girl back. I'm
not surprised, So you haven't that kind of thing going on,

(01:24:26):
Like that's obviously like Lea's feelings are hurt level. And
then we get to the next level where it's Janey
and Kenny. Kenny's crying so sweet, like just my heart
for him. And then you have like the extreme where
it was Serena and Cordell like that thing but what
fascinating me and you could never find that from the
Huddah because she, like you just said, kind of ruined

(01:24:47):
the vibe of the group. It's the fact that like
even though our three main couples are all crashing out
with each other, Kenny is crying into Leah and Serena's arms. Yeah,
like you have Serena's as friends who are like, hey,
you fucked up, but like we're still gonna console you,
like we still see you, and like I think we
can believe in you and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
I think there's always still a level you no respect. Yeah,
I think the only time it was disrespectful was the
Serena with the plate, but like that was iconic TV,
so like I will always give that a pass.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
That was so just like subtle, like it wasn't a greed.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Agreed. Like again, that's the highest level of offense that scene.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Yes, No, so it's just a fact, like you would
never have anyone like consoling each other, like being like,
oh my homegirl, like you just ruined her life bringing
this random classic girl in. It's like, no, they all
actually could talk to each other. Even Miguel when he's
getting cussed out by Serena, He's like, hey, like I
might have missed a page. Can you explain? Which is

(01:25:51):
kind of hilarious. Are here from him? But yeah, it's
like I definitely think I'm curious, Like gif Hudda wasn't
in the islands or she had gotten kicked out when
she should have been kicked out during that instead of Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
No no, instead of Jalen, Oh no no. Hoda could
not have gone when Charlie left.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
She was safe on it, Yeah, yeah, had.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
People like, had America not saved Houda?

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
No, because I was the Islanders voting.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Yeah, but but you were only it was like people
up for elimination based on like how America voted, and
Hudda was safe in that. I think people forget that
Huda was actually safe by America. But the first time
she was really up for yeah, like voting out was
with the Jalen and the door situation.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
On the backs of call her well, not call her
daddy specifically, but it was also an Entertainment Tonight interview.
That one was only like fifteen minutes. I also watched
that on YouTube. That's when she said, yeah, I really
did feel like I was bullied in the villa and
sort of come out and like see that people agreed
with me. Is like so nice and I preptacure. On
the back of that interview is when Shelley Olandria on

(01:27:04):
follow hoodah and I was like thank you, yes, yes, yeah,
I mean I guess if we're moving to the key
key interview like go forward. Oh well, what I want
to say about that is I texted you about this
that that had to be recorded before our stuff came out,
because you can just tell the way they're talking about things,
they would have been more shady and rightfully so had

(01:27:26):
they been actually reacting to hood of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
No, and yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
That's why, like again, like it's kind of like like
next gen NYC, like we're getting in a debut season,
like a conversation about race like multiple times, and like
having to reiterate to this white man like hey, this
hurt my feelings. And I really appreciate real quick, like
about Riley just being like no, I know he's coming
from a place of ignorance and that's why I'm trying
to teach him, like and then that's on him again,

(01:27:52):
but like I really appreciate. I think if I did
time stands on my notes, Like I think within the
first fifteen minutes, we're already talking about like the experience
of being a black woman on Love Island, which props
to us from what I can see from like Love Island,
UK and Australia, Like the US really does well, like
having an actual diverse cast and like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Actually making like voices heard and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
I mean, Amaya and Brian being the first like Latino
couple to win like amazing. I love that for them.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
I'm like very happy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
But even if Nick and Landry had one, it's like great,
we have like still like another black woman, like we
are being having that representation. And I think again because
America gets to vote, Like that's really nice to have
that kind of light in this tunnel.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
That we are all in right now. Don't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Yeah, but you and one too, like Kiki you can
tell is a fan of Love Island. Oh my god, yeah,
which is really much appreciated because as I said, like
I think before we start recording, like being a post
and being like an interviewer is a skill, like it's journalists.
You can't just yeah, hoop on here to like do
what ever. So I think it's really great. And obviously

(01:29:03):
you could tell like Alandra and Shelley where her like
faves and just like having that it felt literally just
a copy of like having like her interviewed Serena and
have her interview Janet, like I bet.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Having them go on a black podcast where you it
just is a different space. When somebody sees your like
who you are in that way really helps. I really
enjoyed when they talked about the expectations of women of
black women on reality TV, because probably six ish more
than six months ago, Alisha and I released an episode

(01:29:37):
with a cast member from Summer House Martha's Vineyard, and
he had spoken about how Summer House Martha's Vineyard cannot
act like Summerhouse, like they don't get the same it's
not even edit but the same perception by the audience,
and so we like they have to act so differently,
and hearing them reiterate that is a good reminder to

(01:29:58):
myself of their there is no grace for black and
African American participants of shows like whereas a white woman
crashing out like Leah last year, crashing out like gets
all the grace in the world, and she should get
all the grace in the world. But we should also
extend that to Shelley and Landria voicing their opinions on

(01:30:19):
the stand on Business Challenge, Like the minute they spoke
up for themselves, they get labeled mean girls and that
is crazy, crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
Yeah, and then even to it like a Maaya like,
I love that she's coined the term sensitive gangster. I
think that's so funny and I relate so hardcore as
a girl who cries out TikTok edits on the bus
to work. I think asked one when I cry, And
I'm like, probably yesterday, like doing something really stupid. But yeah,

(01:30:51):
Like I think the stand on business was really interesting
to see that reaction from like America and the audience
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
So I've already seen that and I was.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Like, what, Like well, I'm like, okay, yeah, Shelly, he
could talk to Hoodah, you know, prior to the day.
But again, we're not all perfect, we're not all doing
things correctly. And the grace that Hoodah gets for any
commentary anything she does is so different than the one
time Shelley doesn't do something perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Yeah, No, it's definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Yeah, Like I just I really appreciate and you can
tell too, like with Kiki, like she was hearing them
and really giving them that platform. Also, I really appreciated
that she did both of them together on an interview
versus like a one on one because I think you
have like them too, like really bouncing off of each other.
Because I know she had Serena and Cordell last year,

(01:31:49):
and then she had Janey just recently for Beyond the
Villa promo. But it's just really sweet, Like it felt
like just three gals just like literally chit chatting about
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
You gotta keep it pretty light hearted, and then they
got to address some of the drama, but still they
got a fangirl at each other, both like Kiki love
or like loving Love Island and then like loving her obviously,
you know, like yes, I will say with the stand
on business. Also, hearing that it was like six seven

(01:32:19):
hours and everybody left it and this is their opinion,
but that everybody left it like they really got to
air things out pisses me off so much. If Hood
of references that then as the time she was bullied,
because that was literally the whole challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Yes, and like people say that like, oh, she didn't
know what the show was. I'm like, Girly, that's insane
that you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
She said that somebody told her to go on it,
and she had been wanting to be honest. She said
that don't call her daddy, and I was like, oh
my god. Everybody has been saying she had was in
for yes, it her call Her Daddy episode. I recommend
people watching it if you don't like her, because it
will you will feel justified in exactly who she is.

(01:33:07):
One thing I will say I'm sad about for her
is obviously like Alex Cooper always tries to like intro
people learn about their lives. And one thing that makes
me feel sad for Hoodah going back to like she
should go to therapy. And that's no shame in the game.
This cirly literally went today as of recording. I go
every two weeks, So no judgment here is they were
talking about something and Hooda immediately starts tearing up and

(01:33:30):
is like, oh my god, like I need a tissue,
and so like Alex gets her one and she's like, oh,
you caught me, and I'm about to like be on
my period, like gosh, like I normally like I won't
cry like this, and Alex is like, no, like let
it out, like she was talking about like her childhood
and like traumatic stuff. No, she like was so upset
that she was crying, And I'm like, I just don't
think she interacts with her emotions in a healthy way.

(01:33:53):
So then it like builds up and yeah, and so
like that's the start of it where I was like, wow,
I see why you're doing things. But again that's not
an excuse, like you do need to learn how to
do better.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
No, But yeah, so I feel like, and that's partially
think too why I don't really like Wanna Inhale like
that content, especially like with the whole that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
I'm like, I don't need to be giving her any
more time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Obviously. I know it's different for you, like you would
have a podcast on all this stuff. I feel like
for me, it's like a casual, like in it kind
of person. I was really looking forward to the Landria
Shelley talk and again, I just love when like girls
are yapping, like I love the Summer House trio.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Sierra Mandrege rip Page not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Coming back this season, but it's just like I love
just girls like getting to like hang out and like vibe.
I mean we even saw a little bit of this
this season. I mean, mine is the whole Sierra being
a producer talking plot point like you guys just see
and a lot of people really make comments too, and
I think even they talked about it during the podcast
that they were like when Orlando was about to get

(01:34:54):
kicked off the island. The way that the girls sobbed
and like it felt really nice. And I loved that
they said this about themselves too, that they were like,
we were like really loved in the villa. Like them too,
they're like people like really entrusted that they're like probably
who who loved us? Yes, no, And I really and

(01:35:16):
I appreciate them like actually standing up for themselves in
that way and being like we were beloved by like
our fellow islanders. Yeah, we get it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Like we're not seeing everything that's being filmed.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
I'm sure maybe there was maybe like one shady thing,
but it's like in the grand scheme of it, not
nothing compared to huddah, So it's yeah, like I really
appreciate that. Also, they both reached out to by the producer,
which and I mean reached out like prior seasons, which.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
This might anger you, but Houda applied. She was not
reached out to. She applied because I know that matches
her character. Yep. She which like if you want to
go on it, that's no shade. But this it just
adds to the like she knew what she was in for,
but a guy she was like seeing It's so funny
because she literally said that, like he knew I what

(01:36:04):
was then dream date? He knew that, Like she was like, oh,
I really wanted to go on Love Island and he
got reached out to and he knew that. And it's like, again,
he didn't have control into being reached out to by that,
Like he can deny honestly, but that she was like,
I'm gonna apply for it. I'm gonna get on it,
and like she did.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Hats off to her, but yeah, like that's very different
like when Shelley and Lander are like we kind of knew,
like we had seen it before.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Like Uk, I was like, no in a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Also, if you're going to have anything, I mean me
being on your podcast, I'm like, I like listen, So
I kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
My god, Like we say that all the time. I
don't care if you've ever watched it prior. But the
minute you start the process of either applying or being
reached out to interviewing, do some research. That's on you
if you have no clue what you're stepping into.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
No, but like watch a Cemilia know the process what
you need to one d agree look at my notes too,
just seeing what else. I always think it's interesting they
did bring up during that podcast episode. I think because
like it's interesting too when the ojis get asked like, hey,
like if you were Kasa and Moore, if they asked
me to be Costa Moore, would you And they're always

(01:37:15):
like no.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
But I did well. I'm like no, wonder like Casa
Moore tends to be no offense to these people, but
like somewhat sub hard. It's because like people are so
egotistical that they're like, no, I would never do that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Frame it in a way like you're the temptation. You're
automatically like in a way like the villain. Ironically, I
see things going on. But also I'm like, I wonder too,
now that we've got a bombshell and Casa a more
gay who just won, I wonder if that's gonna shift
it that like we might get more Miguel's, we might

(01:37:55):
get more Brian's.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Like I seeing it from because anybody who goes on
reality TV and is like I came for love, Like, yeah,
you can come for love, but like, let's be so
fucking for real, you also came for the audience. You're
gonna get off of it? Yeah, I do understand the
like strategy of wanting to be on early because then
you get more potentially have a longer runway of screen time.

(01:38:19):
So I always say, like I wanted if I was
going on it, I would also say, I want to
be an original to try to get it, but I
want to be like if they denying me, I want
to say no to CASA. I would want to be
an early bombshell because again you get that runway.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
But I was about to say being a live bombshell.
That first one being a Maya was the second with
hand or yeah, yeah, the second with hand, like was
the first. I forget she was the first bomb show.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Yeah, her and Charlie. I do forget about them because
they were in like the hideaway that in my mind,
they felt like they existed already.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
They like put them away.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Literally to me, I was like, that was a bit already.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
For a while there was the only like Hideawakes, and
I was like, what are we doing? I will say,
let's get back to the original Love Island format. I
think they like strayed way too hard off of like
the original. There were no movie night, barely no movie night,
barely any recouplings like let's let's get back to those.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
And Rob always like last year during the movie night,
he was like, listen, we're putting all of the cards
on the table now, and I think that's a good thing.
Like you guys might be basically, you guys might be
crashing out, but you'll think later for giving us this crding.
Oh maybe to an extent, but yeah, like you had
a format that worked obviously through different franchises and six seasons.

(01:39:37):
D why are you trying to shift so much? I
did like the parents coming in, but again that was
added from what they usually would do UK.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
They started with that and then during COVID is when
people got into video chats. And then I wonder if
because US used to be filmed in Hawaii, so it's
a lot easier and cheaper to fly people. Why so
I wonder if when they shifted it to Fiji, if
they stopped it for a little bit. But I think
it should be in person as well.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Yeah, Like I think that was really sweet, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I mean, Alla brought Bachelor Nation, like they get to
meet the parents, like actually to meet the parents, because
I do really love that and why Love Island has
like shine so much more over like Bachelorination and stuff. One,
it's definitely more I think overall liberal versus Bachelorination tends
to be a bit more conservative because it's at ABC
and all this stuff. Yeah, but like you don't have

(01:40:37):
to get a ring, Like there's not like an actual
like commit and I love In America votes. I'm wondering
how much true are these votes. It seems like it's
pretty like hands off. There's nothing actually.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Say, there is some legal standards you are, like you're
supposed to upkeep if you hold like a contest or
a vote, but I would say that somebody would have
to dive into their the like small language, uh, to
really know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
But yeah, and like I know you guys talked about
in your recap too, like getting rid of the money aspect.
I agree, like at this rate where they're getting famous
and way more opportunity as an influencer or whatever, like yeah,
that's enough, Like they don't need to have this money thing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
Maybe they can do I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Know, why give it like a trip or something and
be like I was gonna say her on the trip
or yes, I think that would be more interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Is like hey, like we know we kind of just
forced you, like, yeah, you're in beautiful Fiji, but you're
also just trapped.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
In a villa.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Like do an extent, like let's actually give you like
a nice little like honeymoon. Basically that's a great idea
because yes, put one hundred kg towards that, Like you're
giving the money away anyway, why not and then give
us a bonus episode or bonus clips at the reunion.
That's what you need to, like Medetaria, Yeah, give you

(01:41:58):
that back point. But yeah, no, I'm curious. Now we've
had like such flip flops of like season six was
so good. Season seven had very high highs, very low lows.
I mean we got all the memes out of that
Mama Sita's I mean, Nick and the Lander are just
hilarious together and not at the point where I'm subscribing
to his snapchat to pay and watch them, but they

(01:42:21):
do get the TikTok and they're so goofy and like.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Everybody. Jill and I watched the second to last episode
together ish like we were at a friend's house, so
we barely watched it, but we stepped in to watch
all those platter things be lifted and we're screaming, and
the guys were like, oh, he's going.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
On, so we force everyone. We were supposed to go
a park Wye night and it's gonna rain. So we're like, okay,
we're moving indoors and I said, everyone, we're watching Love
what a because of me and Meredith. We go out
on the audio awesome about other stuff about just like whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
We couldn't listen obviously, You're like, nah, but so many
people were watching it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's intending you have to sit and watch.
Especially Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
I was like I can't sub title read this, Like, well,
I I'll come back later. And then people grabbed us
to find out who well who left me? He was
Shelley an Ace and we were screaming no. It was
voting was going live, and I was like, defensive vote
for Nick and Landria.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
Everybody, yeah no, And I know, like it was hilarious.
Harry Alicia like so anti anti do Landria.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
We didn't talk at all during the season.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Honestly, I feel like that's such a fun, like little
twist for you two to just like let something cook
so long and then like I really think your Love
Island recap just doing it all in one go was perfect.
Make it just an extra long episode and then just
like knock it out, because for you two to have
to do a show that's daily is actually crazy because

(01:44:03):
it's like, how do you break it up? Bring it
a week by week? Yeah, that's so much to come
in when so much changes and shifts and happens, Like
you can just do a longer recap. Yeah, but no,
but like it was just hilarious, Like we're just yapping
on the patio and we just hear we turn this
on for you to get out here. They're kicking people
off and we came in. We were holding hands. We

(01:44:24):
were so nervous. Yeah, and that's why reality TV is
fun because it brings people together like that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Well you mentioned the like Kiki uh Alandria and Shelley
just yapping on a podcast, and I was like, man,
that's what we're doing right now. This is now. I mean,
it's so happy you came on this episode. This has
been no, this is so great, Like you're.

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
A great host. You and Al should do a fantastic job.
I feel like I've covered I've learned so much more
about like Rally TV and Bravo Nation and everything, like
with you guys, and yeah, subscribe to the patron guys
support local.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Business women and stem well well, Joe, yeah, anything you
want to add before we head out?

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Think so No, this was so fun, just yapping doing
what we usually do in the corner of a bar, even.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
Trava Dondle as usual.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
But no, I am so glad, Like you really have
gotten me hoked with like new shows. So I I'm
just so excited for your future stuff. I do have
one idea for you that I think would be really
fun for you, Mealicia. I think you should do depending
on your commitment, because I was thinking about when you
asked me, like what got my intro to reality TV?
I was like, you, guys gotta be like retro reality

(01:45:38):
TV recaps, whether it's like watching a pilot of like
a one hit Wonder or committing to like a one
season Wonder, and that's it, Like, I think that's so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
We do someone seasoners and they are iconic. We have
done NYC Prep, which was a Bravo show. We I
can't remember the second one we did. We did the
bush Feeling show that I mentioned earlier, which was called
bush Feel Brewed and for everybody on Patreon, they kind
of have seen these start rolling out. But this is

(01:46:07):
why you should subscribe to Patreon because this will come
out in September. Watching Jackson Brittany Take Kentucky, which I
forced Alicia to do against her will.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
With Lisa Vanner Pom.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Like she really has carried the younger like shows, and
I appreciate her about that. You know. Jackson Brittany Take
Kentucky is so funny because I think I've only ever
seen the clips that they like showed from like that
season that's when they were referring back to the filming.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
We have never watched it. Thankfully, it's only six episodes.
It's it's a it's.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
A show, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
But I will say the next time we do it
one season Wonders, we're gonna let the Patreon vote. Alicia
gets to pick like three or four options because she's
so mad we're doing Jackson Brittany. The Patreon will ultimately
decide what the final So we're joining over that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Well, I will say, I will promo if you love
Love Island, I just rewatched are you the one we
were talking about that? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
Because are you the one one was an MTV show.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
It's similar premise, but like more somehow mathematical because everyone
needs a perfect match. But it's on Hulu so good.
I highly recommend, And it's literally just the same thing,
like you're just in a house, but they get to drap,
they get to sty and like I watched the whole

(01:47:37):
seasons going.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
Out, the only reason people leave is because they get match,
which adds its own chaos.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
No, and I do love a show where there's not
that like nerves of like, oh I need to like
stay in it because that's a tough like Love Island. Definitely,
they play that game, but I appreciate that, like are
you the one your castid you're.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
In there's still a highly strategy of like finding your
match and like trying to figure something out with yeah,
without faking your feelings for the game.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
Yeah, And there's so many pries.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
But they split up like twenty people, so they're not
making money now. And they're young. They're twenty one twenty two.
Like we thought Love Islanders were young, these ones are younger.
So if you need like more of a retro like
older reality show that's not always popping off these days,
I think they're done. They like were done in twenty nineteen.
Pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
Agree, I think they are.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
I that ends.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
It's probably like sixteen episodes. It's no like sixty summish.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
I think this season I really committed to in college
was like twelve episodes. Like it's an easy you're in,
you're out, you can havelf pay attention. They're messy. A
stuffed animal gets burned in a fire. It's MTV trash,
which is what sometimes I think I'm from Pete Pack
and Bravo.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
That's a good point. That's a good point. Well, a
great recommendation, and thank you so much again for thank
you for having episode well another great episode in the box.
Thanks for joining. Bye,

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