also...the Pope and Paige Bueckers

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it of up.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh no, no, no, true, you'll never guess, so sidebar.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes. And also I feel like I shouldn't have to
remember everything I know. Actually I have to talk about
this three two one, Hi everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, I'm Alicia and I'm Meredith and this is also podcast.
What I like to say Allergy Edition because I'm dying.
I'm going to be sniffing my nose.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'll meute myself. But oh my god, are you dying?
I spin no, because I just I just got spring.
That's my small celebration too, by the way, Like I'm
I'm like, what's your small celebration. I'm just saying I'm
week one, so like, give me a month and I'll
be where you're at. Lovely.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I went back to Chicago for now even three days,
and I felt like I was dying.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, the flowers just came about, so like we just
got pollen in the air.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I think it was that rain that never did me in.
And I was outside during that reign and a soccer
game that I don't understand soccer. So I was sitting
there with my parents and we're like, the fuck is happening?
My god, my god, child slash cousin this way and
I'll buy her love. So I had a shirt to
deliver to her. So we went and it was not fun.

(01:22):
No fund Saudrey, but it wasn't fun.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Alicia doesn't know soccer. She knows women's basketball. I only
do women's basketball. But you know, it would be funny if, like,
you were really good at pronouncing soccer players' names, but
you could never pronounce the basketball player never. Never.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean I would, I could do some soccer player games.
May I just say though?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I grew up in like a relatively white suburb of Chicago,
but my cousin's women in a really white suburb of Chicago,
liked high school and all that, and literally no people
of color on either soccer team that we watched. I
was like, that's crazy because there are a lot of
Hispanics in that area too, and the Hispanics love soccer.

(02:08):
And my mom, who's also Hispanic, so and me, we're
both like, that's kind of crazy that it's all a
bunch of white girls.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
That's how it was when I grew up.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, but we My mom is a bilingual speech pathologist
and she does her most work in my Cousin's district
because it's like very rich and white, but also like
it's it's very sad the discrepancy. But then a lot
of the Hispanic people in the area are hired to
than like be housekeepers and like.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Like it's so working. Yea, yeah, like they live on
the it's so weird. I'm like, it's very classist. It's classes.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So you would think because the Hispanic kids go to
the same school, yeah, I was like, but then I said,
this is the JV team. Maybe they're all on varsity.
And we did see varsity walked out and it looked
like a you more more people of color, people of color. Interesting,
but it was crazy. I forget how racist it's. It's

(03:10):
wild crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I think what's what's wild is to go back to
like where you're from and are like how you were raised.
Because we have evolved our lives so much, and you know,
like we are so open to other cultures. We live
in major cities where other around it, yeah, like it
is a focal point for us. And then to go
to areas where it's not, it's like, oh you, this

(03:36):
is how you live.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I forgot why would there be anyone but white people
on the soccer team. Like that's crazy anyway, great, what
an intro.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I don't even want an inn about I mean just
all my.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Allergies, my allergies anyway, crazy how we got from allergies
to their crazy anyway, Meredith, Will you tell me more
about your small celebration of spring?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yes, I will. I literally woke up this weekend, looked
outside my window and there were flowers on the tree,
and I said, we're here, baby, you know what. It's
almost the beginning of May, but we're here. We're finally arrived.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's a late spring, given winter didn't hit until.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Like, it's weird because we had like a cold version
of spring. I would say, like it wasn't winter cold,
but it wasn't spring, you know. And it wasn't even
like the false spring this and that. It just was
like a little chilly. It was always like really cloudy here.
It didn't really rain that much, like slight sprinkles, like
nothing to make the flowers come out. But finally we

(04:44):
got some good rain and the flowers are here, flat terrain,
a lot of rain. Yeah, outside your allergies. What are
you celebrating? Ooh, are you ready?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I'll never this is you're gonna literally everyone's gonna roll
their eyes and hang out. No the podcast. When I
say up, I mean stop it. So be prepared to
find a new podcast right now? Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh? No? What?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I bought tickets to see page Backers playing?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh? Because are you saying? Because people are going to
be annoyed that you're going to talk about all I
do is talk about page backers and basketball.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
I told you it's my new personality right myself. I
want to be at least a bisexual, and a lot
of bisexuals and gay women love basketball, So here I
am me.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
You don't have to be a certain like attraction. I
don't like many enjoy basketball like people. I don't like
many either, So I'm fully I'm fully getting into culture. Yeah,
but you don't have to be gay or bisexual to
enjoy women's sports.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Everybody watches women's sports. Okay, yes, but also everyone. I
watch a lot of women's basketball with my bisexual friend
who wants to turn me. So this is all I hear,
it's she's it's a lot. Anyway, We're gonna have a
fairy kay summer.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I love that. Yeah, we'll see what happens. But so page.
So if for those of you.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Who don't know, the New York Liberty won the championship
last year, and so it's very convenient because I love
ten minutes from the stadium. It is a mess to
get tickets. Everyone now loves women's basketball, which I love.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
But if you're like, we don't officially.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Stop making tickets three thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Can you love them from your own couch? I will believe.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, I'm debating buying the w NBA League Pass at
this point. That it's thirty five dollars for twelve months,
which is pretty good, and I would get every game.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I love that. Yeah, lovely.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
But anyway, she so New York Liberty tickets are insane,
so you can already so you imagine against pagebackers. Yeah,
that's gonna be the crazy Kaylyn Clark tickets already too,
are like Skyrocket. But people in Chicago, I don't think
go to Sky games as much as New York Clipperty.

(07:16):
Women's sports aren't as beloved in Chicago for some reason.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Very weird.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
But the Chicago Sky is hosting the Dallas Wings in
May and tickets were only like one hundred and thirty
dollars and I was like, I'll buy a plane ticket back.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
So I'm also bringing one of my friends who is
just kind of like down for anything, which is nice.
And she was like, can you explain to me everything
I need to know? And I was like, back, should
we go?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
And correct? Do you want me to go? Defend myself
because every I don't know if I heard, but Alicia
is coming to Chicago to watch the game.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I unfortunately cannot go. I can't totend. I would have
loved to explain the Lord to her, but.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean, I get it anyway. I will. Let's be honest,
You're going to explain it to me whether I'm at
the game or not.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
There's a lot of I'm on like w NBA lore
now of like there's a couple in the league and
I'm like really into them, DJ Carrington and what's her?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
What's her? People forget is like we all love stories
being told, and there's a lot of stories that people
haven't heard. They've been being told, Like the stories have
been told a million times over in all facets of
the world. Stories are constantly being told, but you may
not have heard them yet. And so like this is
a new area for a lot of people, and like

(08:40):
you said, there's so much lower to learn about.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Okay, in case you just want to know, I'm obsessed
by it now. Dja Carrington and Melissa Smith.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Nobody come for her from them. I got him right,
I got him right. I even looked it up, so
fuck you.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Anyway, they played college ball together.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
They went to Baylor together.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
We're like, I don't know if you remember Kim Mulki.
She's the head coach for SU but at the time
she was coaching Baylor, and Kim's like a very scary
woman for someone who's only like five six in blonde,
but she, I guess could feel like these two kind
of flirting. And she called Djona into her office and
was like, there's no dating on the team. Dja's like,

(09:29):
we're not dating. But they totally were flirting and stuff.
But then they graduated and then they did start dating.
But now they're on different teams, right, and then last
year Melissa was on Indiana Fever. I don't remember what
Djona was on, maybe the Sparks or something. She's on
Dallas now so I'll get to see her too. But okay,

(09:51):
so they were together and then they broke up. Oh
my god, I know, I know, I know they broke up.
But then their teams had to play each other.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Crazy. They have made season or before the season, I
don't really doesn't, but the season is happening in their
playing season is happening.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
They were dating, they have since broken up, they are
now playing together.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm already into this story.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
And and DJA is going off.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
She's having off game. That's oh my god.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Ape So then her ex Melssa, there's a loose ball
and they're both going at it, and Melyssa ends up
following DJA like big time, like pushing kind of pushing
her over. It was completely an accident, like if you
see it, like you can see them, but Melissa. Then
so Djna is down like kind of like face down,

(10:45):
like I this is important. She's faced out. Melissa like
picks her up by her waist and wraps her arms
around her and picks like picks her up like that
and then holds on for a second and you can
see j A kind of be like, you know, like
but whatever. They keep playing, and then there's another moment
where Djna has the craziest block, right, she blocks the

(11:08):
fuck out of that ball and then she looks at
that person and was like, yeah, you know, like fuck
you kind of thing, and that other player was about
to fucking go at DJA until Melissa the X comes
over and pushes her own teammate and is like, don't
do it, and.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Everyone was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And then right after that game they got back together,
and now they're on social they're on social media and
DNA is like, remember when you held on for like
ten seconds and Alyssa's like it was not intentional. I
was you hadn't gotten your feet below you yet. Dja's like, nah,
you held the fuck I wanted a hugy. Yeah, I

(11:49):
kind of love that. Like, so in the off season,
they obviously like live together as much as they can.
I think they're stationed in San Diego, but yeah, now
one of them's in Dallas and the other one's Indiana,
so they're like separated for the season. But it's like
very interesting because they like really.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Have just like a really cute relation. If you can
make it through that, that is insane because yeah, when
just one person plays a sport, they already have a
hectic schedule, but both of you playing and having to
constantly be in other cities, Like you don't get the
luxury of somebody coming to you when you both play.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
And then it's what I said, like with love and basketball,
you both have to prioritize your own game, so like
there isn't this person that can then like drop their
life for you and offer you support, Like we can
support each other, but like at the end of the day,
we are competitors, like we're gonna show up and play
against each other. Where if I need to go to
bed early, like you're not getting a phone call to night.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
But even though like they both play basketball. In also
love and Basketball, it's like, yeah, I remember, like he
wanted her to just be with him so bad, Like
those natural human emotions are so real. So the desire
to have your partner with you makes sense and you
get it because that person gets it, like it's gonna
be okay, But that doesn't make the desire go away.

(13:04):
So that's like an added later on your relationship is
you're supposed to get this, you're supposed to be doing
this too, like we're in this together, but we're not together.
Yeah makes sense.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's it's crazy, but it gives a good point for
may I just say Page and Easy, they're not. They
basically confirm their relationships, so like love the blueprint. And
when I say basically confirmed, they haven't said anything. But
my god, they'll post the post of each other. They
don't have it too, Yeah, but they're posting each other

(13:37):
like I've never seen posts before.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
And I'm like, you know what, though, I have an
idea for you. Yeah, I think that Our Love and
Basketball Women's edition should be a TV show. I love it. Yeah,
of sure, Like I don't think I really do twelve
seasons of this. I don't think a movie is enough
for me. The more we talk about week.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, just I want to look in more to Dja
and Melissa because that could be a whole nother spinoff show.
And then like asy in Page's relationship could be at
least twelve seasons, and then like you could add in like, Okay,
Kaylin Clark, she has a boyfriend who played college ball,

(14:22):
but now I don't think he's playing, so like, is
there any resent you? Like you could write it? Yeah,
I'm making this up. This is dramatized. I'm sure he
doesn't resent her.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I'm sure I don't think he was as good as her,
But I like, is that friction. Was that friction whenever
in college? Yeah, because I think college is different, Like
once she goes pro, he's now a coach for a
team in Indiana. I know he was doing college and
I think he might be with the Pacers now. But
like so once he becomes like professional in the sport too,

(14:51):
I feel like you're on different paths of coaching versus playing,
so that may not be as competitive, but like college
would be hard. I want the transition from college into
real life. Yeah, each court, I'm telling you love and basketball.
Did it perfect with the quarters? And then let's just
at another person we could talk about that. I'm fascinated
with Aubrey Graham was a or she Yeah, she was

(15:12):
at Yukon and she just graduated. She's picked up by
the Minnesota Lynx. But she hard launched her relationship with
a cheerleader and I was like, a Yukon cheerleader who
is cheering at the end, And I was like, that's fun.
I love fun one because that's not professional sports. They
always tell the cheerleaders like you're not supposed to date
the players. Like they didn't.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Hard launch until after Yukon when the Natty, so like
what was happening behind Like we all know cher like,
at least in high school, the cheerleaders hated going to
the women's games.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Like I don't. I think it's very it's very interesting,
but for like Yukon, like it is such a big
deal there, so it might be slightly different.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, listening to Djine and she was talking to Angel
Reese about it, who played on LSU with Kim Molke
as the coach. Angel was like, we got a book
like when we join the team that said absolutely no
dating your teammates.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
This is not allowed.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I'm sure if LSU has that, UKN has that in
permanent marker like apsolutely no. But also Gino has a
real soft spot for Asy, so maybe maybe letter I
probably not. That's why it wait, you wait until you
win the Natty, until you graduate.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
You gotta wait till you've done completely well. I don't know.
Page and Asy aren't like being Oh but Page is
leaving is what I'm saying. Likes to be on the
way out.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yes, you're right, I said win the Natty because the
specific degas Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
That's true. But like Paige winning the Natty when it's
her final y yes type thing.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I think there just needs to be more sports romances
where the women are in sports. I don't care if
it's two women. I don't care if it's one woman
and a man.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I just think more women need to be the sport.
And I'm so so bad because I'm your quarter thing.
You're so right, like season one quarter one, like this
is like junior year of college, and then we'd be
like because I think senior year needs to be its
own thing with like Paige winning and Nanny and.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Then they've known each other since they were fifteen. You
get for eighteen seasons on Paige and Asy because of
the the background they have with each other, Like Dja
transferred at some point into Baylor, so she didn't meet
Melissa until later. But then that the pro relationship is
so fascinating to me, like as professionals, because like, if

(17:41):
you're playing with each other in college, that's different than
playing against each other.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Well, it would be really hard to have had that
time where you played with each other and we're with
each other every single day and then go to we
are now opposite cities playing against each other. It's so complex.
I want I want it in some form and I
don't know exactly what it is, but I want it.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I don't either, but I think also like add in
the end now, I'm just this is off the dome,
off the top of the dome. Think of like the
nil deals, Like what if like Paige was such a
superstar and I know she shared a lot of nil
deals with the team friends, and I mean as was
first out of her class too, so she has her
own deals, but like what if like one of them

(18:23):
doesn't have as many nil deals?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Good like we or like jealousy with like the Caitlyn
Clark example, like she was getting deals and her boyfriend
probably don't.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
You know my boyfriend's name to this day idea you
you don't know? And I think injuries play such a
fascinating part in it, specifically like Age and E's injuries
were crazy. But like imagine you're playing your girlfriend's team
and she gets injured in that game and you're.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Like, especially I do with the hands maybe of one
of your players.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, I feel like though women are very you know,
I girl power, I feel like no one would purposely
if you if I knew.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
That, Oh no no, But still like like what if
you accidentally tripped your own girlfriend even and like something happened,
like the guilt you would feel, and you still got
to play the rest of the game. And you're mean
concerned about your partner, but you're concerned about your teams.
But you like, what do you do? I mean, let's
just this happened.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
As he needs her own TV show, she got a
like season ending injury because one of her her teammates
fell into her knees, like accidentally, but like how bad
you feel? It's obviously not the teammate's fault, but like
how bad do you feel?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Then? And then it's like there's a lot of isn't
the same? This is not the same. But I did
have somebody break my arm in a soccer game and
a practice and just like I'm not joking. My family
friend brings it up to this day, like the person
who broke my arm. They're like, do you think people
still feels bad? We were like playing soccer, I was goalie.
Oh do you want her to feel bit? I feel

(20:01):
like no, but like it was more traumatic because for
me as a kid, because there were no parents around,
so it's like how do a bunch of kids fix
a broken arm? But anytime, like my like it was
before practice and just no coaches or parents were there.
Oh okay, but like I we like still bring it up.
So I can't imagine the person on a massive stage
actually feeling that. Yeah, I saw a video of it

(20:24):
recently and I was like, damn, damn.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
And then she was out and then she watches Page
get injured and that, Like what do you do? You're
just like, uh, you could write a whole I'm telling
you at least at least eighteen seasons.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Add in Djona and Melissa. I just need to do
you know, they're all American and homecoming, like they just
spur off different shows. We need to do that with
our characters. And we need to focus on one story
at a time because I like all these stories and
I also want to move in.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
What are my current She's on Socials. I'm obsessed with
her Flage Johnson. I think that's her. Don't come I
know her name is Flage. If you don't know, just
Flage off the name Flage, You're crazy. But she's on
LSU and she's having a she's going on tour right
now with her music, which is a lie. No, these

(21:21):
nil deals have given so much to these women. I
don't even know if the men, but the women are
killing it. Yeah, she released her set list and I
was like, wait, I love that, so like that's that's
what he was always sad about before NIL with like
the Olympians, is you have all this name recognition and

(21:41):
you really can't do anything with it, like it doesn't
really matter about I mean, advertising is like where most
of the dollars will come.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
From, but if you want to be famous for some
other reasons, it makes it harder. And before social media
and so now that people can just like follow all
of their passions and get money, whether it's advertising or
like you know, YouTube, like content creation or music. Like
that's just so cool to be able to support yourself
and follow multiple passions. It's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
There is a if anyone's interested, a documentary on Prime.
I think, like fuck Amazon, but I watched this last
year specifically around LSU and how those athletes are monetizing
the NIL deals.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
An Angel Race was in it, and then.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
They had a gymnast, and then they had like a
male basketball player and I even remember like the man
who they followed like wasn't even that good at basketball,
but he had he was so good on social media.
They basically had him as like a benchwarm around the team.
I love that, which is which is like dumb, but
he was like making a full career out of it.

(22:47):
But then it's also interesting to see these kids, like
literally their children be like how do we navigate this world?
And it's also crazy that like people are hating on
these eighteen year old's like terribly. Yeah, like the amount
of bullying Angel Reese receives on a day to day
and I know she's a professional athlete, but at the

(23:07):
end of the day, she's literally like twenty four.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I just think about that with all self, Like all right,
we don't need to send people just people in general,
like it's not that serious, Like let's take it down
a notch, like this has nothing to do with your
actual life outside of just providing entertainment, like root for
the team, be upset, but like we don't ever need
to like make it a personal thing. Yes, specifically sports.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I hate when someone like shows emotion or like gets
in someone's face a little and then it's like, oh,
they're a bully, and it's like calm down, it's calm down.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Just let the game happen as if it's like a movie,
just like enjoy it. Have discourse about enjoy the drama
the sport, but like we don't need to make it.
We don't say that like actors and movies are terrible
people for what like happened in the movie. Like separate
who the person is from the game being played a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
That guy from Game of Thrones though, is basically bully
out of Hollywood. The guy that played Geoffrey remember never
I never watched it. Oh he was this evil, evil
character and then people would like go up to him
and like public, that's not okay, and he never wants
to act again. Like once his character was killed off
of Game of Thrones, he was like.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
No, like people need to take a chill pill.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
He did like like theater, I think, and he got
like booed off the stage and he was like, I'm yes,
because just because he played a character, So people are
literally crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Actually, the guy that played.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Dan Scott in One Tree Hill, you still yelled that
all the time too, and I'd be like, oh, that's
not really hate this.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Oh my god. I saw someone online, like a content
creator go online and say that he was he was
saying he met someone famous and at first he felt snug,
but then he was like, wait a minute, that person
literally doesn't know me. I don't know them. Like no,
they were like nice, they took a photo, but like
they weren't like showering him with praisey and like I'm
so excited to meet you. And he was like, we

(24:59):
need a remember like these people are strangers. We are
strangers to them, they're strangers to us.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, literally, and how weird if someone can I don't
even like being in the background of someone's photos when
I'm walking past. Imagine you're just going to grab a
coffee and one's like can.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I get a picture with you?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
And like if you say no, the Internet's gonna roast
you for yes, that is what's wild.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I understand like being like me and I'm really sad,
Like I'm sad, I like really wanted to picture with
my favorite person. Okay, yeah, understand those feelings. Yeah, why
do we have to take it to the internet and
like talk about people are like rude or mean. It's like, no,
I have personal boundaries and like I don't owe you shit.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I kind of have a rule where I'll never probably
ask for like a famous person in the wild for
a photo. Like obviously, if I go to like what
we did Bravo Conka yea, take my fucking photo.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
With I think it depends on the event and like
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, But like if I'm just going to my local
coffee shop and I run into I know Jason sideikis
supposedly lives by me, I'm not gonna be like.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
To Leasso take a picture.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I'm gonna literally maybe maybe if I'm feeling brave, I'll
be like I loved you and Ted last so excited
for the next season and just like be like thank you,
great show.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
But I also thought about that when I walked past
where the WNBA draft was happening, I was like, if
I see I'm not actually gonna say anything to them,
like how fucking weird me walking VI being like, oh
my god, can.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Take your I always think like, what are we gonna
do with this photo? You know what are we doing
with this?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I interrupted Paigebecker's life to get this photo, and she
couldn't be less excited to see me.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
A thirty year old that she will never remember. I
always think back to my family was on vacation once
and we saw I don't even know what the picture's
name was, but it was like a really great MLB
picture and my dad was really excited and we like
talked to him for a little bit and then we like, yeah,
talk to him, but like his kids in the photo too,
and I'm like this is like he was just like

(26:55):
holding his child and like we like took a photo
with him, and I mean, like it didn't feel weird,
but I'm like, what are you gonna do with this photo?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Like, yeah, I think it's more meaningful to talk to them. Yeah,
Like if I Sauce, I'd be like, yo, like congrats
on the natty, like you really deserved it.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I was rooting for you.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
And then like keep I'm not gonna be like, Hi,
I'm Alicia, your biggest fan. Can we take a few photos,
maybe a VID? Can you say happy birthday to my sister?
That's all crazy weird. I don't like when it happens.
I just can't imagine being put in that spot. I
would hate it. So I just don't want to disrupt
other people. Like I said, I'll do like a drive
by like I'm knows as hell, but I'm gonna know

(27:39):
what's going on. I'm met one of those bald twins
from selling Sunset.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I was like, who's a bald one of them? I
thought we were talking.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
About women's basketball players. I'm just going off who I've met.
I've met one of them. I was at a bar
and he was there and I said like, great, you
got a great show, or like love your show?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Could tell me?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
He literally goes okay. It's like, okay, we were down.
I actually don't love your show that I have.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I think this also the photo thing is I also
have this need to like keep options open to ever
be friends with people who are famous. And I'm sorry,
but a photo would immediately like fill that ever happen.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, Hey, I'm just hanging out with my buddy who
I took a photo within three years ago before they actually.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
They're like all right, I don't need to be friends
with you anymore.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Plus, like, why would I ask for a photo because
then that kind of ends the conversation. You're done if
I like can build a report if you're interested in
what I have to say. I actually, guys, coolest story
at my college Bradley University, Baby twenty thirteen. I was
a freshman. I was walking back to class and Chance
the Rapper was doing a free show on our quad

(29:00):
for all of the twenty people there, right, And I
was walking past and I had just gone to La
La Plouza and saw Chance, Like I did a drive
by watch, but I saw a Chance and so after
this I stood around and watched. After the set, I
went up and I was like, hey, super weird, but like,
I think you were great at La La I saw
your set and he was like, oh my god, really
and we chatted for like maybe twenty minute about music,

(29:23):
about Chicago, like whatever, and then I left and I
was like I didn't even get a picture. And now
people are like, you have a picture to prove it.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
I'm like, no, I don't need one. The memories far
I got it.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, I hung out with Chance the Rapper while I
packed up his stage.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
And then also, if you're lying about that, okay, like
that's a weird lie. Yeah, then that's my fault. I
was like, well at night, does that really give you
that much credit with friends? To be like I met
someone I didn't meet. I said, hi, and that's.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Someone that will never meet or talk to again. Yeah,
and you'll probably never know, Like you can't call Chance
the Rapper and be like, did you actually.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, there's multiple reasons why that can't happen. Yeah, but
like how weird. It's it's all weird. I stand by that.
But in New York you see a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Of famous people, and occasionally I'm like.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'll stare, I'll stare my face. Oh, but I'm hardly
to say anything. I'm not I'll say things depending on
the situations. But no pictures, no photos, no photos.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
So when Meredith and I become really famous, please no photos,
no photos, please photo.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Meredith, you have news, We've got to go somewhere else.
Here's something happy. Over on Bravo, Danny and Nia finally
bought a house so when they have their fourth child,
they don't all have to still be crammed in a
fucking com Is it in that place that he really
wants to go to? I don't know. I feel like
he would have said something if it was. They didn't

(30:54):
say where it was, but I think they bought it
like a week ago.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Congratulations, What a terrible time to buy a house though.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, but like they need a home, and there you
have like two weeks on Reality TV, like they can
afford a home.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Probably now, that's true, but terrible time for normal people
don't do it.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
That's the thing. Once we become stars, we will also
buy a home.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well, we'll buy homes and terrible economies too. Actually, wait,
can I tell another story that helps me do with this?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (31:25):
So this weekend I saw my parents and my mom
was telling me about it's a long story, but one
of her friends texted her about her kid that just
moved back in with her and the daughter too, like
the daughter and then the daughter of the daughter.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I'll move back in with my mom's friend. And my
mom's friend.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Just when she was describing it, she's like, my daughter's
had a really hard time with her, you know, the
baby daddy, and like also she's going through an economic
disaster currently, and I started cracking up.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
I was like, define economic disaster because we all but like,
what's the house? Is hers different or is it just
a normal touch of economic disaster? Is a special spicy guid?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
So my mom finishes reading this and me and my
dad are cracking up, and my dad's like, please, we
need to know more about economic disaster, and my mom's
like I didn't follow up with that, and we were like,
but we're curious now. So every day since I've thought
about her and her economic disaster.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I mean, anyway, I feel it. I feel it. Maybe
Davie Hers has a special spice to it, but I feel.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
She as a kid, I imagine her economics.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I'm walking to my apartment and I'm like, damn, bless
those people who are taking care of other human beings,
because I mean, I'm just trying to get by on
a solo household. I don't know how people do it.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You would hear screaming baby in the background of this podcast,
and that's.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I didn't even think about the emotional and physical toll.
I'm just thinking about economic.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm like, I could maybe, No, I couldn't. I couldn't
have a child on any of the realms. No, No,
what's craziest with me? About to turn thirty, I was
thinking how my sister had three kids by thirty, and
I started to fucking spiral. I was like, we're gonna
back that in a box and we're not gonna.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Think about that. We're gonna go to bed.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's not nicey, You're fine, You're fine, and we're all fine.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
I was like, that is not what I want my
life to be. Thank God I'm not there.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I'm gonna make you feel better. My mom told me
that she hadn't been on an airplane alone until she
was thirty.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Interesting, I mean our parents had kids so young too.
I mean you didn't often solo travel for our parents, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
They I mean, yeah, you weren't really traveling around in
your twenties back in our parents' days.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
But yeah, she had all three of us.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
And then my dad was like in Vegas for work
and he's like, come meet me, And she said she
was fucking freaking out. She didn't know if she had
to get a taxi, what would happen on the airplane?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
What if something?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
And I go, what if the airplane goes down? You
think your husband's gonna be there to save you?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Just let it go. I was like, the airplane's the
safest place to be alone. It's crazy because I prefer
to fly alone. Like, even if my friend's going to
the same place, I'm like, we can be on different
flights even though we're going to the house. No, literally
said somewhere else. I don't.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I can't someone next to me that I know is
now my nightmare.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I don't know how to talk when I travel, like,
I just want to be completely alone. No, the airplane
is silent.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I don't care. You don't need to chat yes to anyone?

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Oh I hate it anyway, So does that make you
feel better? Some people don't even get on airplanes until
they're thirty.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah. I mean that makes me want to abandon my
life and go travel again. But yeah, do it. Any
other news, Tom Schwartz started a podcast. He was on
Katie's too. I saw, I know, I know what's his podcast?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Why all these people get podcast?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
We did it first, Tom, Sure some of them did
it before us. Go check out my own little timeline
about that. But yeah, I don't know. My thing is
he must be needing a source of like solid income.
I bet he has like good income from like like
doing appearances and stuff, but like a steady, you know,

(35:18):
month to month income is nice. Find the valley is
paying him that well to show up. Oh my god, No,
I bet his podcast, Katie it was his first guest,
and then he is on hers as well. Oh okay,
I'm just trying to look up the name of this.
It's like Detox Retalks Reetik damn, it's so I listened

(35:45):
to it. Do you want me to go into listening
because I listened to the episode? No, let's save it. Okay, well, book,
I want to end. I want to end with this. Okay.
Do you have any more news? I don't think so.
I didn't write any other down, but I feel like
things have been happening. Oh, oh my god, Alicia the
mom talked Veiner pump Villa crap? Have you been seeing

(36:08):
that online? What? No?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
My for you page is just page Packer's edits and
the pope dying.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
So oh, the pope died. The Pope died. I'm sorry,
hold on, let me back that up. Jd Vance killed
the Pope.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, the Antichrist, and as Catholics we can say that.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I literally called my sister and was like hoping she
would answer. She didn't because I wanted to talk to
my nephew and be like, oh my god, are you
so excited, like they're gonna get You're gonna get a
new pope. I remember doing this as a kid, and
she was like, marat, he didn't have school, it's Eastern Monday.
I was like, oh right, I'm not a practicing Catholic
I don't remember how this goes. I forgot, but yeah,

(36:45):
the Pope died.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
It's very sad because Pope Francis was very liberal, trying
to bring trying to bring the world together. He did though.
Before he died, he told one of his advisers to
basically rip JD. Vance a new one, get him. He's
a bad Catholic.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
And then JD.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Vans did witchcraft and killed the Pope.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
And I just think he should probably be deported. I
maybe deported, like from this lifetime, just in general, to
the ocean, not saying I want anything space.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Put him in the spacecraft, right, he'd go to space
for eleven minutes, comes down in the ocean in the
middle of the Pacific Ocean.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Well, that's where a lot of them come down. But
he has the state.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
They're saying spacecrafts come down in the middle of the
Pacific Ocean.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, they like drop in the ocean a lot of times. Yeah,
but not with the people. Yeah, no, with the people.
A lot of them think it in the ocean. No,
because there's air in there. What the fuck? Wait? And
then how do they get him, like like a boat?
They like track it and then they like get him
out on a boat. Oh well, blow up the boat.

(38:01):
That's gonna go find the Blue Origin. One did not
go high enough for it, like they could just parachute
down and like they were fine. But if like those
people were stuck in space, theirs went into the ocean,
because it's just like dropping out of air. How did
they also?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
But I understand it would fu it all makes sense.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
I just didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it happened so
rarely that like the transition of real astronauts that not
the Katy Perry level of astronauts. Real people, they don't
like go back and forth in and out of space
as often like they do like long missions up there
for like nine months, and then whenever they bring them back,
it's like it's not that exciting at time. We don't

(38:43):
even have to bring them back. They don't even have
to land, just shoot them out. JD.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Vans, the astronauts can come back to us. The astronauts
should come back. They're amazing at what they do and
deserve the recognition.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
JD.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Vans and Katy Perry can would skyrocket them into They
should go explore the sun.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Send him.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I just y'all, you can't kill my pope, not my
pope without me being pissed.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Also, did you know he he.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Was not transferred? What's it called he converted? I did.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
All I thought you were talking about who? I thought
you were talking about stuff for a minute. Did the
pope convert to think?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
I was like a pope he got born late in life,
he was Jewish. I mean, talk about a career change.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
If the pope can do it, we can do it now. JD.
Van In my twenty nineteen I was like, did he
do it for you? Should he do it? Like for
his political views?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I thought maybe for his wife, but I don't know
when they get married. Why would you listen? Listen? Everything
I know about that man is against my will, so
like I have not googled anything about him. Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
As someone who was born into this life, the Catholic life,
I question when people are like I want to convert
to it as adults, because it takes so much to convert,
not even just like the whole religion factor.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
It's like just so much time.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
You could be Jewish way faster and way easier.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Why is this your past? Also, also when it becomes official,
you have to like wait till Eastern and everybody's like
fucking staring at you. I'm like, no, no, no, I don't
want to lie so public.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Terrible I have Like one of my friends went to
college with someone who is currently she's already married with
a kid. But now she's like, I'm converting to his religion.
And I'm like, why you already got married though, what's
the point.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
That's the thing. I would only do what I only
think it makes sense, so then you can get married
in the Catholic church, in the church wedding. And she's like,
oh for my kid. And I was like, you can
just learn the religion. And I said, you go like
you don't. You could happen. It doesn't have to be official.
This isn't like the US. There aren't any like borders
in and out.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Do you think she wants to get like Eucharist with
her kids. She could just send her husband be like
go with dad. I can't do it, yeah, I because
you could still sit through church.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
You just can't get the Eucharist. Which it's like, it's
nothing crazy, it's a crackher, It's just a cracker, and
it's a bad cracker. It's insulted. Zero the wine is terrible.
I didn't even drink the wine because everyone's mouths were on.
That always freaks me out that Alicia, I was a
eucharistic minister when I was in high school, really were deep. Well,

(41:44):
I mean I went to school school. Yeah, you have
to finish it as the person at the end. You
have to ask the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
There could be a dry I'll I one time never
again made a joke when the when the priest like, like,
you sit back, I literally look at my mom. I
go shut, shut shut, and.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
She literally she was like, you're going to hell. And
I was like, O hey, we already knew you aren't,
because like, you're not worse than jd Vance. At least
I know that means going to hell. He just killed
the people.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
The Pope didn't have to tell me that I was
a bad Catholic because I already know.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
But I'm also not out here. You're not that bad.
I don't know being rude to other people. I think
Jesus has a sense of humor, and I think he's
gonna want me up there to entertain people.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Jesus was a brown Palestinian. Of course he wants us
up there. We're not against his people. No, Jesus, he's
a literally a democrat, but he's a socialist. He is
Bernie Sanders, but brown at twenty years old. He's Bernie.
So like, if you hate Bernie, you would have hated Jesus.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Hated Jesus.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
You would have been conscious pilots people that was Jesus.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
You would have been oh, you would have been Judas,
not me.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Mayas would have probably been a follower because I would
have been like, Lou, this hot man, you know what,
he's actually spitting bars.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I will be honest, I would have been skeptical of
him rising from the dead. I would have been a hater.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Oh imagine you're imagine your bestie comes running, because you
know it's a bunch of women.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
They come running and they're like, Jesus isn't in the tomb?
And I'd be like did a bear eat him? Like literally, like,
who who's friend here? Who's the jokester?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
I know it wasn't just it could have just been Jessica,
she's not strong enough, who moved the dead body? And
then they would have been like, oh my god, he
was risen. And then I would have been like.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I don't know. I mean whatever to get a little
wine in me. But I'm like, wow, really loves attention.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Not one God, thank God, no one married Jesus. He
was kind of a hoe an attention. Who Jesus Christ,
that Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ really to be the center.
You would have hated him because he would have out trying.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
You know what, You're so right. You would have been like,
and that's why we want My jokes are slapping. I
know Jesus is over there like turning water into wine.
But like I just told a killer joke. Did Jesus
ever have sexual relations? Did he ever have a girlfriend?
I don't think so. They didn't write about it. He

(44:26):
was too busy. It was literally nothing to write home about.
It was too busy in politics. He was dedicated to
his work.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Well, it's not like his mother Mary, who was pregnant
with him, even really was sexually active.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
That's true. Also, well did he uh, I'm gonna call
it in vitro somebody else, because like God got a kid,
Oh my god, Jesus ever just.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Called God and was like, yo, this one she's got good.
Jean's let's impregnator.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I just hey, they didn't write about it. That doesn't
mean it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Didn't mean it didn't happen because you know who the
storytellers are, Matthew.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Mark, Luke and John. And why we don't ask questions,
boys don't ask the good questions. Those girls needed to
write the gospel and we would have gotten the t
You see how fast words spread when he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
In that too, because the ladies knew and we figured
out he rose from the dead. The girls are detectives. Matthew, Mark,
Luke and John couldn't even figure out the right from left.
Also question now that I'm thinking, Jesus, it was all
in the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
We were in Jerusalem. Yeah, who the fuck.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Was named Matthew, Martin and John? Wait got very English names?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Wait a minute, dying damne. I have never thought about that.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I just thought as soon as I said him, I
was like, those are some.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
White ass name. Those are some white ass names.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Maybe they were crazier and then through trans no one
knew what these names were. So like the Church of England,
they were like, let's just rename them with our names.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Well, you think the Catholic Church is older than the
Church of England. So the Catholics would have renamed those people.
But I wonder if you know how the pope takes
on a new name when he comes in, maybe like
we renamed these people over the apostle.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I believe like Judas, that's I
mean even that doesn't worn.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
No, but that sounds a little more old school than
the one. Mark.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Actually, Luke is the craziest name.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Luca is crazy because it like we didn't even get
Lucas a full name. We went, we went nickname like Mark.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
You could be like I don't know, Marcarius or something,
and they just shortened it.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
But Luke no way A good point because like John,
John the Baptist, then like like where did that come from?
You know, like what is a little bit?

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Well, now that is a very Jewish name, which Jesus
was Jewish. He was people forget he was Jewish, and
no was a really Jewish name. I feel like so
that that stands the test of time. Gabriel, that's you
don't hear any Gabriels.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Anymore, all right? Mary?

Speaker 2 (47:30):
And then Joseph, See I got questions, actually who translated this?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
We already don't trust that, We don't trust the writers
because they're men, you know. So then and then who
translated this? You're white men, you're gonna tell me? There's
When I was in high school, I remember them doing
new translations and I'm like, Jesus Christ were redoing this,
Like why do we have to rework like every all
the way?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
At one point, all the prayers changed to the Latin version,
and I was like.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
What, that's the thing I remembering. My brother graduated high
school again. He went to a Catholic school, and it
was really funny. At that mass, you could tell the
people who went to church and who did it because
they'd changed half the words.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
There's I like we used to for those of you
who are not Catholic, this is now a Catholic podcast.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Just in time for Easter. You know, you're just really
reminiscing the holiday we don't celebrate.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
The priest would like say something like peace be something
like peace be with you or whatever, and you'd go
and also with you, but it's and now it's and
with your spirit, with your spirit. I giggle every This
is why I haven't gone to church since before COVID
from I haven't gone to church since BC truly, because

(48:43):
it's a good one, but like, uh, like when I
tell you when I heard and with your spirit, I
was like, and what, No, I have.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
To like say those things so loud and like specific
because I have to remind myself what the words are
because I don't know. It just comes somehow. I love.
If you've ever been to a Catholic church, it's so boring.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
But during Mass, whenever the congregation has to say something,
they all say it with the same inclination, like I
bet if Meredith, and also with you, that's how we
say it. And with your spirit lift up your heart
like I could do the whole fucking thing. And then
you're like, peace be with you. I used to as
a kid look across the qu at my friends and

(49:24):
we would just go peace signs at each other, Peace
be with you. He's like gangster, just w And then
I dated a guy in high school who told me
he didn't go to church because he would probably burst
into flames. And I thought that was funny, and I
told my mom and she was like, please stop dating
this guy. And I was like, never, Oh my god,
he's evil, and I'm and then you will.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
And then you grew up and you learn JD. Vance
killed the pope. Crazy could have been my ex. We
don't know. No, no, oh my god, that'd be crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
My ex was a Hatholic long before twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Let me tell you. Oh my god, this was fun.
Should we get into reading, watching and listening? Yes? Please?
I love the news. We really went deep.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
May the news be with your spirit?

Speaker 1 (50:16):
So good? Oh my god, what are you reading, Alicia?

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Ooh, I'm reading this new book that's very slow, but
it's for my book club I'm in. It's called Wellness
by Nathan Hill. Okay, it's not bad. It's just there's
a lot of details.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
What is it? What's the topic here? Is it self help? I?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
No, you would think that's kind of how I'm blind
thinking that. No, it's kind of about like I think
it's a love story, but it's like a realistic one
where you fall like in and out of love with
your partner, and like it takes place in Chicago. But
basically what I've read so far is like these two people,
they are neighbors in different buildings, so their windows face

(51:05):
each other. They stare at each other, but the other
person doesn't know that they're staring, you know, because they're
like swapping basically one staring, and if one person has
their light off and the other has their light on,
the person with the light off is like stalking.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Oh my god. And then because then it's me yeah.
And then she.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Runs into him at a bar where he's taking pictures
of the band, and then he sees her and he's like,
come with And now fast forward years they have a
kid and they're falling out of love and he thinks
it's because he's fat, and she thinks it's because you know,
this is a cycle.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
You're supposed to fall love and actually she's got really crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
There was something really interesting in the book because she
is like a psychologist of some like human behavior, and
she said that it's actually very normal that in their
thirties and forties they're unhappy because happy is like a
U shape. So you're happiest that you're like twenty, when
you're twenty, and then when you're like eighty and then.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
All of that in between.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
No, you're you're like least happiest at forty, so you
just like go down, down, down, and then you start
to get more happy. So it's like so she always says,
he'll be like, are you happy? And she's like I'm
as happy as I expected to be at the bottom
of the U, which is like kind of rude. I
don't like either of them.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I feel like that must be like a tendency that
people live their life that way, but you're not guaranteed
to live your life and that you unhappiness thing, well.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I don't think, Like, like when I read it, I
was like interesting, because like, who care, Like I always
want to be as happy as I possibly could be,
and I'm not going to sit here at thirty and
be like I was happier when I was twenty, Like, well, okay,
maybe in some ways dances were say in some ways, yeah,
Like maybe I was happy because I didn't have responsibilities

(52:56):
and I was like in college and like I could
do whatever. I felt like I could do whatever I want.
I was like invincible and my back didn't hurt. But
like now I'm happy because I have money and I
live on my own and I live on my own terms,
and like I can travel places well.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
And I feel like I've learned the meeting of like
equality friendship, Like the happiness standards are a little bit different.
Like you said I had freedom, like I could just
go out at the drop of the hat, and then
I could probably get drunk for ten bucks. Whereas now
it's like I'm happy because I know the taste of
a really good beer, really good glass of wine, a
good conversation with a friend. It's just a different faction

(53:32):
of it.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Like I'm happier with myself now than I was at twenty. Yeah,
but like did I have more friends at twenty? And
was I doing more?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Sure? But like where it was a week it was a.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Weird thing that I thought about and I was like,
I don't know if I like that. Yeah, so weird,
But so far I'm like fifteen percent in the book.
I don't really like either of them. But like I said,
it was when I say it has too much detail.
It's one of those where like they just gribe every
corner of the house weird like and You're like, this

(54:04):
is the ceiling tiles, and then the sighting and then
we talk about how when it rains you can see
it on the window and it smears, and I'm like,
I couldn't care less, but I know that it probably
this is just the writing style of like how they
see the world. Yeah, So like I'm looking in cause
mine would be like and this is just how I am.

(54:25):
I'm not very deep, and like that's okay. I've come
to I think when I was growing up, I was
like I want to be so deep.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
It's okay not to be that deep.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
But I would never look out the window and be like,
look at how look at the marks that the rain leaves.
It's so it's so beautiful. It reminds me of a
of a good song. Like I would just be like,
love a rain dope. I hope these two drops race
each other. You know, like what I.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Think you and I we're not deep. We're like vast.
We can talk about a lot of different topics, yeah,
like pretty and depthly, like we know a lot about
a lot of topics, but we're not going to get
like like very introspective.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah yeah yeah, And like I mean, if we want
to talk, if anyone ever is like I really want
to like share my feelings, my deep feelings on something, yeah,
I'll listen. I will relate as much as I can.
I can tell you about my stuff, but I'm just
not the type of person to like sit here and
be like, oh.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Growing out, my.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Brother had autism, and it was hard because like, it's
not I just don't want to dwell on it. But
they seem like dwellers. These two are big dwellers, and
I hate that.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I hate when people are like, you're not very deep
and it's like, okay, but do you want someone where
you go to McDonald's and then they tell you about
the trauma they endured at like five years old.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
It's like, we don't have to get that deep. You
can just tell me what unhappy?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, because she's she's thinking way too into it, and
then he just thinks it's because he got fat.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
So now he's exercised. That's sad.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
She wants separate, but this was crazy and I get
I am pro this, but you should discuss it with
your partner first. They are building a house and they
see the model and the husband is like, why do
we have two separate master bedrooms that are decorated, one
for each of us? And she's like, because most people

(56:18):
like sleep apart, like it's the inevitable anyway, and he's like,
but then she's like, we already sleep apart because one
ends up like in the on the couch or whatever,
which I think is.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Another thing with marriage.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Fine, but he was like, so we're just not gonna sleep,
like try to sleep together at all or have any
kind of like intimacy there. And then she's like, and
then what if divorce rates they're fifty percent, Like if
we get divorced, we can still live our lives and
Cohabitate's crazy.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
For their kid, and I was like, this is why
you just don't have kids. It's like probably thought about this, babe.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
I'm pro two bedrooms in the sense that, like what
I have to wake up earlier, you have to wake
up early.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
I think all the time.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I think we could have tons of sleepovers. I would
love that.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I think that. I think for me, I would need
a like primary bedroom that is like our bedroom, but
we have another room where like one or we can
it doesn't have necessarily be one person's, but it can.
But it's just nice to sleep apart to like get
really good rest sometimes. But I wouldn't want it being like,
all right, every night we're sleeping separate. I feel like

(57:27):
it'd be like, all right, can we sleep separate tonight?
Like I just I you wake up at the kids,
or like you wake up and do something else. I
just want to be alone for the next like twenty
four hours.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah, I would like to have just like my own
space that if I want to watch my own show,
I don't need you scrolling your phone while I'm trying
to pay attention or vice versa.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
And then we can like both go to bed.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
But like if you have to wake up at the
ass crack of dawn and I don't, we can sleep
separately this night. We could even if we want watch
TV together that night and then we'll separate up. But yeah,
the way this wife really like knocked it on him,
I was about say, that's like she sounds too deep. Yeah,
she's really thinking into it. I just would like to.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Well, she's thinking about all these things, and then it
seems like it's just being dumped on him where she's like, oh, yeah,
we're having two bedrooms and he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa
Is it because I'm fat? That ye? Because I'm fat?
That's crazy, sad? What am I doing wrong? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Think Page disorbo in Summerhouse where she just needed a minute. Yeah,
that's what I would like with my life. So if
the wife wants it, that's fine. But she fully was like,
here's your esthetic and here's my aesthetic, and we are separate.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Well, the fact that she's like, just in case we
get divorced, that tells me you've really thought through this crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
So it's called wellness. But neither one of them are
that well right now. They were more well just stalking
each other.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Oh I forgot that. That's all they like met. That's
so sad. So I'll keep you updated.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
I've been kind of reading slow.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I don't know what it is. I've just been doing
other things. As I say, do you think your life
is busier? No, which is weird. I think I've just
been like watching more TV.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I'm going through a phase yeah, which is fine, but
we'll get through it. We'll get through it and we'll
be bad on track. Hopefully I'm not great.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
It doesn't matter. It's just for me. Reading is just
for me, so it doesn't affect anyone. Okay, what are
you watching?

Speaker 1 (59:26):
I finished Got to get Out on Hulu, which went,
oh that's the game show? Yes? Did you watch any
of it? Absolutely not? Okay, no worries. I'm just gonna
kind of spoil it for you somewhat because it's not
that interesting. But I think the way I recommend Got
to Get Out. Is you know when you're just like

(59:49):
kind of looking for something to watch and you want
to get a little bit sucked in, but you don't
want it to be your whole world, Like you can
get up, you can do some chores, like my kind
of TV show. Yes, this is the per TV show
for you. Let's do it. Okay. What shocked me when
I first started watching is it is like half celebrities
half normies. Oh okay, which works I think for this

(01:00:14):
show because you get people who are kind of annoying
and you need to have villains. But it's like more
complex because you need to have the people you love
from reality TV where you're just like, oh, I enjoy
them on my TV screen, they're entertaining. You need the
villains who are entertaining, and then you need in this
game people who are truly the villain where you're like, nope,

(01:00:37):
don't let them get out, like you're rooting against them. Okay,
So it was kind of like a nice and you
just kind of need idiots, I'll be honest. So it's
kind of like a nice diversity of people. Shows like
you had one of the Golden Bacherettes on it, So
there was like a mom figure who was like making
meals for the people, and then there's like other people

(01:00:58):
from the Bachelor franchise, and Spencer was on it, and
you have like Kim Zolciac on it from Rehouss of Atlanta.
It was like crazy and even like I think, like
an mma fighter, like people who aren't as well known
at least to me, like a content creator, but are
clearly like known to probably other people. So the premise
is that I would say it's a mix of like

(01:01:20):
Big Brother and playing like Clue to be honest, like
it's it's like crazy weirdness because they're all living in
this house together, so you just have the normal frictions
of like living together, and then that Golden Bacherette lady
is like cooking meals for everybody. So it's like that
plot is like underlying constantly because like people slowly do

(01:01:42):
get pissed off by each other, and then everybody's playing
like a strategic game, like they're trying to escape this house.
In the fact that the house is completely locked, there's
no way to get outside except for this like top
watch tower thing where people like take shifts to watch
and see if somebody got out of the house and

(01:02:02):
is trying to escape, because when you get out of
the house, like every once in a while, a door
or a window will unlock. Sometimes you're giving clues. Sometimes
they randomly happen, like different varying reasons of why you
know or don't know or how you are able to
get out of the house basically, but you're like open
a window, you jump out, and you're trying to get

(01:02:23):
to the front gate, which is down this really long driveway, okay,
and if you get out of the gate, you get
whatever money is on the like clock I'll call it
because instead of a clock of time, it's a clock
of money. So like every second a dollar is added.
And so when you are given up, you don't want
to leave too early. You don't want to leave too early,

(01:02:45):
but you also want money because if if nobody gets
out and the clock runs out, like they're only going
to be there for ten days, everybody splits it and
it's only fifty thousand dollars, So you're like, I want
more than fifty thousand dollars here. You just wait for
fifty thousand seconds and then you're like it's time. Well,

(01:03:05):
you want more than that, like you want to get
a hundred thousand for yourself of course.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
So wait, if let's say I make it out and
I'm running down the path, yep, I assume someone will
sound the alarm and be like Alicia got out, yes,
then what can they shoot me down or something.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
So there's two, like I'll say, alarm systems. One is
like the final alarm like stops everything from happening, but
one is like an alarm actual system like going off.
At the top of the watchtower, there is like a
lever and when you like do that, like red red
lights go off, like it alerts everybody in the house
that like somebody escaped. And then down in the foyer

(01:03:43):
is a button and if you hit the button, the
gates at the end of the driveway clothes, and so
you can't like get out of the property, so you
don't get the money. You got to walk all the
way back to the house, climb back in your window,
and you're like, sorry, I tried to escape. It's actually
the walk of Shave is so funny. Wait, what the

(01:04:05):
fuck why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I mean, I know why someone in the house would
do that, but you can't honestly be mad that someone
would do well, I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Wouldn't, Okay. So sometimes, like I said, you're giving clues
to win, some of these doors and windows will be opening.
Yours might be at like one hundred thousand and five
hundred dollars, but mine might be at one hundred and
twelve thousand. So like if you got out with a
hot like x amount of money and your clue was
before mine, mine won't come then, like I got to

(01:04:34):
make sure you don't get out before I can get out.
So you're like constantly trying to be on guard and
play defense while like trying to get out yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
People aren't mad, right, Like if I get out and
I don't make it, is are people mad at me?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Okay? They tried to get out. When the show first starts,
that is one of the interesting things that happened. I
would say the first three episodes are interesting. There's I
think ten episodes. The next ones are the exact same
thing constantly, and then the final one is just hilarious.
To wrap it up, but in the first episode, a
guy gets a clue and he's like, because they all

(01:05:08):
go in, there's this like machine who gives some people
clues in other people. It's just like you didn't get
one and this guy is it random? Can you get
more than one clue while you're in the house. There's
different rounds, like basically every day is kind of like
a round, and so it like rarely happens where people
get clues outside of whatever reason they got them. Okay,

(01:05:28):
but you can tell people you have clues. So some
people start to work together, but their first set of clues.
One guy who's like a cop. He's like a really
honest guy, like just once thing's for the greater good.
Like he is just enormy, so he's not you know,
making like one hundred K like on everything he's doing.
He's just like fifty K is enough for me. Like,
let's all split it. I want everybody like to like

(01:05:51):
have this, and I think he just like has this,
like we can do this together. But it's like that's
not the premise of the show. Like let's be wrong.
He gets a clue and he's like tells everybody. He's like, Hi, guys,
I got a clue, but I want to let you know,
like I'm not gonna take it idiot. And it's like okay,
So but people are like, that's so nice of you.

(01:06:14):
Like whatever. Everybody's like, I'll chum me. Like people aren't
like at each other's throats. Yet. Then there's this like
game designer guy and he's lying about his job and
he's like f that, Like I'm gonna get out, say
with this other guy, this other normy. He's like, hell no,
I'm taking whatever I can get, like I'm just gonna
try to get out. The other normy tries to get

(01:06:34):
out for it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Also question if someone gets out, is the game over
or they just take whatever money's there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
And then they take whatever money's there and then it
starts again. Okay, the max pot is like he'll take
it out the dollars, so they'll take it out of
the million and then yeah, so then whatever's at the end,
those people have less to split. Oh okay, so there,
you're not gonna get fifty k no matter what it's
like if if you, Alicia took three hundred thousand dollars,

(01:07:01):
now we only have seventy k to split, so like
that's all you're Also on defense is you're like, if
if I can't get out, I'm trying to maximize my
money too, Like yeah, yeah, I don't want to get
less than fifty K. So this guy, Steve, he's the normy.
He's like, I'm gonna get out, like fuck these people, Like,
I'm not doing what that guy did. I'm not turning
myself in. Yeah, So he lies and says he didn't

(01:07:25):
get a clue that he got disqualified because he saw
like a watch on a production person's arm. It's funny
because they constantly are breaking the fourth wall. Oh wait,
I like because they're constantly talking about production or like
how they could use production to get out basically, and
he's like, oh, I didn't get a clue because like

(01:07:46):
I saw productions watch. And some people are like, oh
my god, that sucks. I'm so sorry. You didn't deserve that,
Like they didn't tell us that the rules. Like, people
are like on his side, thinking he got de cued,
but he really got a clue. So when he goes
to get out, people are pissitive because he like made
up this big, elaborate lie. People felt bad for him,

(01:08:08):
so everybody's like, we don't trust you, Steve. You're a liar.
You're the worst. Because he's the first one to really
break out of this like friendly like we're all living
together vibe. He gets caught, and he gets caught and
he has like dude, do do do doude And immediately
people are like, you suck, You're a liar. And he's like, oh,
like all wouldn't do that. That's what makes me so mad.

(01:08:31):
Some of them just stupid. But it's like he's the
first one, so like that's was his problem because then
the game designer tries to get out, but this whole
time he's just been like, Oh, this stupid guy, he's
just playing it up. He like goes by the nickname
of Doodles, and he's just this like quirky guy. And
he tries to get out and then he walks of
shame and they're like, dude, all shame on you. Shit,

(01:08:54):
Like they're like having so much fun, like shaving him
quote unquote, and Steve's like, I didn't get that reception literally.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
But okay, oh, if I get a clue, how long
do I have to get to use that clue to
get out?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
They will give you a range, so it'll say like
three hundred and twelve thousand to three hundred and twenty thousand,
So then you have like the block inside that you can.
It's it's the money clock. So the money clock is
ticking up inside like let's say the main living room,
So you have to keep track of the money clock
and then say, okay, like I have to count my
seconds on how long it'll take me to go to

(01:09:31):
the green bedroom. Door will be open from this time
to this time. I got to make sure nobody's in there.
I got to prep my strategy. And so you get
like a window a time that's kind of cool, and
that's just when the door opens, and so you like
open the window and you like go out, and then
you basically have unlimited time from being outside until somebody

(01:09:52):
catches you. Oh okay, so you could like at night,
like slow army crawl up the I have way if
you really wanted to, and like take twenty years one
year out. But somebody might realize you're not in the house.
Like there's only like fifteen people in this house. So
like every once in a while people would be like
where's so, and so they're like something sketchy because I

(01:10:13):
haven't seen so someone's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Just taking a giant dump and the like where is
this sky?

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
There's a bathroom where there's like a little area outside
the bathroom that people constantly lock themselves in there because
like that's one of the windows and people are like
the doors locked, the doors locked. They're like, oh, really
good door. No, people are always trying to escape out
that window because it's like one closest to the front
of the house. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
I guess honestly, I would hope for one at night
when people are sleeping and I can maybe slink out
of there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
So the first few episodes they don't have anything at night,
and then you can tell production I think like slowly
is like building on this concept to be like we
got to have some people get out because people have
terrible ideas. They just think that they can just like
rent this driveway and nobody will notice them. And it's
like okay, by the time we like do the lever

(01:11:06):
up top to the time somebody hits the button in
the middle, thing, like you only make half the driveway,
so you got to figure out something else, Like you
can't just get out. I'm going to look and it's
it's like curved. So like the first day there were cars,
but like it is so hard to drive the driveway
fast that it just is a little bit complicated, like

(01:11:27):
there was a running back in the NFL and he
did sprinted that thing and didn't even make it. Like
that's how far this thing is. So they like come
up with ways on how it can like basically make
it a little bit easier and a little bit easier,
and people are getting good at their strategies, like Kim
Zolciak and Spencer TV together. Yes, they like there was

(01:11:48):
this day where like quote unquote trash like recycling. Yes,
they like irk each other in the right like reality
TV way where they're entertaining and they like holler at
each other all the time, and they're trying to spoil
each other's plans because they're both loud mouse that they
notice when the other one's not there. Oh, I'm sure.
But on this day they get a bunch of shredded

(01:12:09):
like paper and they have to like put together these
clues and it'll tell them like a door code. And
so you're in groups of three and Spencer Kimmer together
with I forget who the other guy was, but they're
coming up with this elaborate plan, and Spencer dresses up
like someone in production. He's like production is wearing all black.
If I carry a plant down the outside, Like people
will just think I'm part of a production and so

(01:12:30):
they won't pull that lever because there's constantly production people
coming in and out of this house. But it's somewhat
obvious on who is production and who's you know, cast member. Yeah,
so Spencer puts a pillow underneath his shirt, jumps out
of the window when it opens, holding a plant by
his head so you can't see his head, and literally

(01:12:51):
everybody on the watch tower is like, Oh, that's just production,
don't worry about it. And then Claire Crowley, who is
on the Bachelorette, is like, no, our production people are
way more fit than that, like because Spencer's massive belly.
She's like, that has to be somebody pulls the lever.
They hit the button, and Spencer's like, god, damn it,
like he got a decent amount with them, like questioning it.

(01:13:14):
And then somebody was like, I don't think so, I
don't think so. So they have good ideas, but you
really need somebody on the inside who's not going to
pull the lever up top, who's not going to hit
the button at the bottom, Like you have to start
strategizing with other people in the house on like how
to confuse people in the house to not I.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Wouldn't they trust someone else to go get the money
though I'd want to be the one that goes to
get the money.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Yes, because they when the person who gets out has
the option to split it or not with you, like
they can come back in for someone or no, no, no,
Like they the person who gets out, they like get
in a car. The car comes back to the house
and everybody's standing outside and they're like, do you, like
basically want to take anyone with you? Because one guy

(01:14:05):
gets out and he's like, they asked, do you want
to take anybody with you? And it's like will he
take the person he worked with? Or is he going
to take the three hundred thousand dollars all for himself?
And he splits it. Cynthia Bailey like was the one
who helped him. She like owned that button, and so
when it came time for him to he dead sprint out.
But he did it in the middle of the night,

(01:14:25):
so they didn't catch him till he was halfway down
the driveway when they pulled the lever up top. Cynthia
was always buy the button and everybody's like pull the button.
And she literally just sat there. Good for her, and
then like other like house meads were like, oh my god,
and she was like, wait, what's going on? What's going on?
Just in case it failed. She didn't want to like
get in trouble with the house for not guarding the money.

(01:14:48):
She was like wait what happened? And then he was like,
I'll take her with me, so like she left the
house too. That's nice. Yeah, they were the only ones
to get out. Damn. Everyone else had to split the million.
Everyone else had to split like seven hundred k. And
it got increasingly easier. Like you weren't allowed to just
keep hitting the button because Spencer got annoyed and just

(01:15:09):
literally would hit the button every five seconds. So they
made like a jail. Yeah, if nobody was out of
the house and you hit the button, you went into jail.
So they would remember the guy Steve they all hated.
They would literally like goat him into like hitting the
button just to put him in jail because they hated
him the entire time, the entire the entire time, So

(01:15:32):
every time somebody would come to him with a plan,
he purposely foiled it because he was like I hate
you all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Good for him hopefully. So yeah, crazy, Okay, so should
I watch it? Maybe I'll watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
I like I would watch like the first three episodes.
I think it's so funny, but the concept does get stale.
For ten episodes, it was a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Okay, good to know, damn fun for us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Okay, what about you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Have you watch anything else? Not much at work, I'm
doing my Real Housewives of what season are you on?
I'm still on season six. I have a lot of
meetings now, so I like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
And didn't you say somebody keeps pink or like wanting
to talk to you? So then you have to taking
my headphones out?

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
God always. But I did watch a little bit today.
Tamra's dating Eddie. He just met Vicky and Don. They're
at a dinner party together. Jesus Jugs is really sam?

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
My husband's not there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
I've met Penny, who I don't think she stays long,
but she is huge boob. I don't really remember her,
so she had to be like a one and Don
and then Gretchen is still dating fucking Slade. I hate Slade,
gives me such careeps like one of the worst men
on this show, on all Housewives franchises.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
I do I know Vicky and Don don't make it.
I already know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Yeah, but like I kind of like, Don, is that unpopular?

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Well you've said that before. I agree with you. I
think we've had a lot of house husbands too now
in the interim time, and I think Don's stock gets
higher the more husbands we get around, because yeah, I mean,
like we got rid of Simon, he sucked.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
I mean Gina Keo showed up for an episode terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Is that throw wine in her face? Oh no, not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Shit. No, they did some fashion show and Gina Keo
is still friends with Simon, and she's like asking Tamara
all these weird questions.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Wait, I thought that's when it happened.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
No, I think it's the end of year because they
showed like a preview okay, like a big fight.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
I think that's the end of season party. Oh okay.
I just that is a vivid in my brain. I
was probably fourteen years old, and I was like, get her,
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
But like, all these other house husbands are absolute fucking trash,
but Don is just like there, he's like a normally iel. Yeah,
he's just he's trying to just chill. Vicky doesn't even
know how old he is. I felt so bad for him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
That's crazy, so bad for Don, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
And I don't think Vicky's kids care about him, which fine,
but Don seems to be the only one that's home.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
And also as nutty as Vicky is, she actually has
like really good kids. I don't know how this happened,
but like even Michael, for all his debauchery, is like
not that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
I just can't wait for you to get to like
modern era because Vicky's kids are such a constant in
this show.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Yeah, I mean, you just tell I love. We just
followed Brionna to Vegas. Vicky's literally insane.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
But he's like, call me when you when you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Get home from going out, and Briann is like, I'm
not gonna do that, and Vicky's like it should be
at a normal hour, like I'll call you, I'll call
you when you go home, and Brianna is like, no,
I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
And she literally does nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
She has the most boring Vegas trip and she falls asleep,
and Viggie's like freaking out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Thank god, there was no like find my iPhone, find
my kids Oriana would have been fucked.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Yeah, this Vicky is always.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Like bad things gonna happen all the time to all
my kids. And I was like, literally, yes, but you
need to take.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Yes. But she is saying she knows how to have
so much fun. But literally it's crazy, so fucking crazy. Still,
it's so hilarious. No, it's it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
I but like her kids are okay, Like usually if
you have a parent like that, you then fully rebel
her kids, like, don't become sneaky.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Yeah, your kids.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Don't do anything out of the ordinary, Like, yeah, they
they drink, but in college and like yeah they go
hang out with boyfriends and girlfriends when they shouldn't. But
like they're teenagers, Like it was nothing I didn't do.
So I'm like they're actually kind of together. Vicky fascinates
thing and her whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
I missed seeing families like that, Like I would love
to see on like New Jersey. I would love to
see like parents weekend at you know, Teresa and Joe
and Melissa's kids, Like I would love to go see
them funny with their kids. But you're just not allowed
to show things like that on TV anymore, which like
I understand. But that's what I love about the old

(01:20:35):
Real Housewives is we weren't as evolved on what we
should shouldn't put on camera.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
My god, there was that one nut, Kate Lynn, I
think her name was, that she had two daughters who
are literally like eighteen, and they're like, we love to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Drink and drive.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
And I'm sitting here like Jesus, fuck you guys, like
just just own it, I guess, But they're always like, yeah,
my parents don't know, but I like smoke Cigarett and
I'm drinking every and I'm like, well, they know no
respect for telling us, but like, you don't have to
put it on national TV. And then they're drunk on TV.
That's crazy because we saw a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
With Jean Gina Koh, but Shane was just.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
An angry drunk and then Carr was pouring out people's drinks.
These two girls were like smoking SIGs like Tammy's kids too, getting.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Smashed all the time. Yeah, that just doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Who let these cameras in with a bunch of teenagers.
So I've been watching that, which has been it's been.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
It's been a lovely experience. It's a good throwback. I love.
It's a good work show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
I can't wait to finish it up and move to Atlanta,
though I'm getting a little lance excited to do Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
To take like a hiatus, like you don't have to
do all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
There's like I might finish, I might finish season six, yeah,
and then and then hop hopp into Atlanta from Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
That's a good idea because you get to stay in
the same era of like TV, Like you should do
early Atlanta right now because those are similar times.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
My goal is I gotta do all the all of
the Housewives every single episode.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
God, I can't wait for you to be in the
era of Kim Zolciak's weird ass fake wigs that she
used to wear. Those were crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
I will say, I don't know who blessed me and
my TikTok, but I get clips of like old Atlanta,
like just you know, the people who are just like
my top five Atlanta moments, and I just watch them
because like, I know the characters and I get I
get like their vibes a little bit, but I have

(01:22:42):
like no idea of the specifics and so literally there's
just like reunions of them like yelling at each other.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
I'm like, I don't know what's happening. Did did Kim
Zolesiac perform a song at a reunion once? It was
at Watch What Happens Live? But all the ladies were
there watching. Oh did they watch the clip of it?
I don't know, maybe not something. Nini was distraught. Nani

(01:23:12):
was terrified. Kids like music Era was crazy because oh
what's her name? God, she was the other housewife she
was on She was actually in the music group Candy.
Candy helped him with a song, and that shit went
south and it was just like tanked their relationship. It

(01:23:35):
was like such good TV for all the reasons. Oh,
it was so good. So they might have like watched
a performance that she had done. That wild.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
I mean, the amount of housewife singers truly never ceases
to amaze. Singers like I just I love a good hit, though,
I mean, Countess Luanna is still out there money.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
I prefer a one hit wonder, like give me one
weird ass song, let me bang to it, and like
let's be done. Ale against has learned.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
And like don't try and be good, just be bad,
which is what that's kind of what Kim is amazing.
The other one, I mean, I will jam to Erica Jane.
It's expensive to me to be me is crazy. That's
actually a good song. It's actually so good. Candace from Potomac,
I'm oh, she's actually a good she's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Like a real musician. Her and Candy right, like, it's
not just like my famous let me put out a song. Well,
she didn't put out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
A song, I don't think until she was on Housewives. Oh,
but she's actually really talented because they compare her a
lot to Ashley also on Potomac, and Ashley is trash.
This girl sang live once and I was at my
desk like jaw dropped, being like her friends are bad friends.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Did actually come out with a song or did she
just sing a song? She has come out with many songs.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
She's she's so auto tuned if you're gonna listen to it,
because when she sings it live, it is horrendous. One
of my friends from college I actually sent it to
me and was like, and now I keep getting Ashley
Darby singing videos, which pisses me off because I.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Am a Canvas fan. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
And Candas is actually such a good singer.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Wait, that's hilarious. She's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
And then when Ashley's like we should do a duet,
and Candas is like stop, no, no, no, no no no,
we're not literally literally never. But then you got Melissa
Gorga on display, on display. But then you also had
Milania and Jia. They both have musical moments. Yes, yes,

(01:25:58):
it's a time. The Housewives lore is so no one
on that, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
I said Erica Jane.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I was trying to think, is there a singer on
each on each franchise? All we need is one singer.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
I mean like Lisa Barlow is like the singer of
Salt Lake City, not that she cautut music, but like
she did be a singer.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
I think she did record a way in a manger. No,
did she away in a manger? The way she no crip.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
For a bed? Like the way she did it was
so off. The overall Summer House we have Jesse, and
then on Wiener Pump we have Sheena. Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Everyone thoughts for Sena, Yeah, my girl, Sheena's killing it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
Is there one on the OC so far? No? No,
Joe Joe was she became a singer. She came on
the show or she was. She was she was trying
to do music and slayed with her producer. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
And now he's helping out with Gretchen's bagline and her
not the back line. Jesus, I love Vicky. All these
women are like, here's my new business idea, and Vicky's like,
because it's two thousand and eight, Clearly all their houses
are like they're because they're all in real estate and
they can't afford their houses. Now, they like Vicky has

(01:27:30):
like stopped starting these businesses. It's a terrible economy. People
can't even buy their houses. Why are they going to
buy your purses?

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Yes, and we didn't have like influencer marketing. It was
like the beginning phases of influencer marketing because you know,
they had the platform to talk about a product, but
they didn't have that day to day connection with social
media yet.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Like, yeah, Jesus Jugs is starting her dress line.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
No god, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Oh she's terrible. There's also a lesbian that Tamra supposedly kissed.
That that's gonna be a storyline. I'm sure, But yeah,
a lot is happening, I will say though. I so
back to Orange County. I I really do weirdly like Vicky,
like she is like her good time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
I like Vicky.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
I currently like Tamra, but in real life, real real day,
I don't like her.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
I don't mind her a show. Yes, well now on
the show, she's also becoming just like she is on
like TV. But I think it got to her, like
I think she slowly becomes this terrible, terrible person. It's
she kind of reminds me of like Tom Sandoval, where
it's like, oh, you were on reality TV for too long,
like you're good at it, but then it like that's scary.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Like you don't reduce it anymore. Yeah, I do like
her and Vicky's friendship. It's weird. I used to really
like Gina Ko and now I don't like Gina Killo.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
She is not how you were my phone with her,
Junia Kio.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
I don't like Gretchen absolutely yuck. I hate Jesus Jugs.
She Jesus Jugs seems like the type of person who
would like spit on you if you were the help,
Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Yeah, this girl Penny I don't really care about that much,
but she seems fine. I didn't like Joe when she
was on. I really liked Tammy. Tammy seemed like the mess.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Wait till you get to Heather Debro because I feel
like she takes the show to a whole news I'm
so excited. Who else was there?

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
I didn't like Lynn. Lynn was kind of crazy. I
think that's all I've had so far. But it's been
it's been a time, but I do. I stand with
Vicki right now. Whenever her scene comes on, it's my
full attention. She's neurotic, Oh my love.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Yeah, anyway, what are you listening to? Tell me about
Tom Schwartz? How was he doing? Okay, haven't cut so
I haven't kept up with him either. But I saw
it this week that he was launching his podcast, and
I was like, another Bravo podcast. We didn't need this,
let alone from Tom Schwartz. Like the only reason I

(01:30:15):
listened to Alicia because I was like, I just have
to know how this man is hosting a podcast? Is
he okay? Yeah? Is he good in life? For like
on the podcast? I feel like he has a good
voice for a podcast. Now. I enjoyed listening to this
episode because it was him and Katie reminiscing on Vanner

(01:30:36):
Pump rules, like I'll say the happy version of their
marriage of like them being friends and like having good
times together and like kind of they did talk a
little bit about like Venner Pump ending and how Katie
really didn't want to do it anyways, like she feels
really good now that it's over. Schwartz is just sad
how it ended, like what note it left on. So

(01:30:58):
it was like fun to hear them be friends, you know,
like we got a little bit of that in the
last season of Wanner Pump, So it was like really
fun to see that. Oh hey, right now with Kristin,
Dodie and Zoch, Kristen is on Watch What Happens Live,
or like was on Watch What Happens Live this week
with the Valley. Oh, I wish we'd postponed.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
I would have gone to meet them and I would
they I would ask photos. I'd be like top shorts
getting selfie.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
So, like it was fun to hear them banter. But
Schwartz isn't a good host. He doesn't know how to
host a podcast, not saying like we're groundbreaking, but there isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Elece though he posted a picture with Katie and their dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
They got to get the family back together. Yeah, it
was cute, but like I can't imagine that like the
like it was good because of their banter or not
because it's a good podcast. So I am curious how
it's gonna go, if he's gonna evolve in his skills,
Like he would ask her a question and Katie would
be like, wait, are you talking about this? We're talking
about that, and then he'd be like, you know what,
I forgot the question and it's like, oh, you asked

(01:32:04):
the question that to that man. Yeah, So I don't
have high hopes for the podcast in general, but it
was a really cute episode.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Like the minute he has to do any kind of journalism,
it's that like it's gonna be bad.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
I think if he has somebody on he's really close
to and knows them well and like can just have
a conversation with them, like it's entertaining. But it's just
imagine if you're watching vander Pump Rules and there was
just no video, like you're just getting the audio of
like a fun conversation. Okay, but like for forty five minutes,
well all right, we try. Yeah, but was it good?

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Did you learn anything like profound No.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Oh, Tom has the dogs most of the time, because
Katie says, she's a little bit busier and she can
see that like Tom wants to like dote on their dogs,
and so she's still with that girl. He's not doating
that girl anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
It's probably because he twice did a podcast shoeless and
she was like, you're fucking He.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Won't talk about why because he said, like, she lives
a private life, and Kitty was like, well, that's also
some of the downside of dating somebody with a public life,
like people want to know, because Kitty asked, like what
happens and he was like, oh, I don't really want
to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
The thing is, though, they made their relationship public because
they went on Nick File's podcast together and like did
other things. If you want to date someone, that's but
like it is possible, I have some.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
My thing is she went on the podcast with Schwartz.
It's not like shorts of the podcast. Instead he's dating something.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Yes, they put their relationship in the public eye. If
Schwartz had just done the podcast, I'd be like, leave
this girl alone. But they made their relationship public public
and him being a reality TV.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Star, and I stand by this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
He profits off of his life, living his life, so
in a way, just fucking tell me. It's the same
thing I said, like professional athletes or actors or musicians. Yeah,
they might make their relationship public, but they're not We're
not entitled to their relationship because that's not how they're
making money.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Yeah, but Tom.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Schwartz probably like monetized his relations like it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Once you put it out there, like it's it's hard
to put it. You can't put the genie back in
the bottle. So like, no, I think about that with
like Blake Lively. It's like, Okay, you can't like go
and like have a private life now, or like be
mad that people are interested Eve knew whatever you want,
I guess, but in something people are going to be
interested in something. Yeah you made public.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Yeah I mean yeah whatever, fuck him shit.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
So yeah, it was fine. I just won't be listening
to anymore. You're not a weekly listener. I'm not subscribed.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Damn, who's gonna give us the note?

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
You know? I bet I could find the Reddit notes.
Oh just read there's like vander Pump pod recaps. There's
a whole Instagram and Reddit thread because they all have
a fucking podcast. Yes they do. Oh terrible. Anyone know
how she is doing. How's Shenanigans doing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Oh that is genius for a podcast names.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
She's doing good. But her besties Demi and Brett are
in some hot tea. I mentioned this in from Mormon Wives.
She's like besties with them. They're in some like internet
turmoil with the Vanner Pump Villa, like a guy on
Vanner Pump Villa. Because I don't know, if you watch
that preview of that show, it like makes it seem

(01:35:40):
like Demi has like is interested in a guy when
like at that villa and that guy is on Socials
this week saying that like, oh wow, Demi's not being
honest with her husband, and Demi's like, nothing happened, and
he's like just wait till the truth comes out, and
she is like this makes no sense. And she's friends
with both sides. She spends with the guy and with

(01:36:02):
Demi and Bread and people are like, is this just
another internet like cyclone because your shows are premiering or
like did something happen? Whose side do we believe? I
don't know. It's like confusing. I don't understand because they're
also talking in code. I'm like, what happened? Somebody tell
me and show me receipts. I don't care. I have
to say this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Oh, Sheena again finds herself in the middle of beef.
She's always the middle. Maybe that's why she can't play
the middle, because she's always put in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
I'll always defend she No, I understand that there are
comments being like, see now, I don't think Demi's right
because she's on her side and she is always on
the wrong side. She is.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
She is usually on the wrong side of the history.
Not at first with Santaval she punched, she didn't punch, Yeah,
she slapped. She was on the right side at first.
It's if she has to sit in the middle for
a while, or if she.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
Has this there yeah yeah yeah, or in the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Scandal all case, people pushed her towards that middle. Lisa
vander Pump, you know she is impression that you know
that she's gonna be bushed in all directions. But maybe
Demi is pushing her.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
I don't know. I'm just saying I don't know what's
going on. I don't think I'm gonna watch vander pump Villa.
I think I'm gonna watch it through TikTok and like,
let people tell me, because I just don't support Lisa.
I can't do it anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
There are so many great creators that are gonna watch
it and report on it anyway. Yeah, that we might
as well do that the same way.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Oh yeah, I was gonna say it. The only reason
I would support it is because of Stasi. But she
has her own show on Hulu that's supposed to come
out here sometime this year. It hasn't been announced the time,
but like, I'll watch Stossi in another format.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
Do we This is a weird question. Don't judge me
as I say this. Promise what do we like Stacy?

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Still? I do? I do? I think Stas is like
fully herself, Like she doesn't do stuff for like Internet,
like whatever she likes, like she likes it one hundred
and ten percent. And I love people like that. Like
she's so into like medieval time stuff and like all
this random stuff that I'm like, I love that for you.
It's not for me, but like, go off, queen, no,

(01:38:17):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
I don't think I know what's happening with her, So
I don't I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
I get TikTok a decent amount, and her style is
something I really like, like it fits lifestyle. So I
also have always really enjoyed her just like fashion against
I think she's always just done whatever she wants to do.
She got like back in the day. Obviously we all follow,
so we friends. But interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Okay, Yeah, I think I have fallen off of what
Stacey's up to, so I just haven't kept up. Also,
my last thing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
For her was her terrible book tour that I went
to and it was just oh my god. Podcast. Yeah, No,
I'm not. I'm not a vander Pump Valley podcast girl.
But I like them on their socials. That's how I
like to interact with them. No, that's fun, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
I wonder what if one day I don't know if
I like Shena anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
I have been wondering that because I think what will
help determine the next phase of this is do I
like her on the Valley or not? Because I know
I won't like Lalla. I I'm over Lalla. I don't
want anything to do with her. Like if I could
and follow her from our socials, I would, but I
feel like I need to keep up on everybody. I

(01:39:34):
don't think I like her, So, like I'm like, Shena,
can you entertain me on a new show, one that
you're not a cast member on?

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
I it just gives Shena a mic and a beat.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
I don't think so because this isn't her show. So
I kind of need her to respect that she's a guest.
Oh can she be a good beat? Well, she's already
a character, because I think Lala's gonna try and be
an a character in this and that's gonna piss me off.
Like this isn't your house. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
I just there's a lot of people that I know
I don't like, and a lot of people I know
I know I do like, but some I don't know
if I care, And then I wonder as time goes
on because they're not gonna be on my screens. Yeah, Like,
am I gonna care? But I still like Christina Kelly
and she hasn't been around for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
Yeah, but like Christina Kelly doesn't done anything controversial either,
That's true. I've never disagreed with Christina Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
I mean maybe I have, but it hasn't been important
enough for me to care about And I guess I
stopped caring about Kristen and then she showed back up
on my TV.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
That's true, that's true. I think there's I think there's
always room for redemption arcs and like to change your opinion.
But if she like rides off into the sunset, never
to be seen on like reality TV again, what will
my lasting impression? Could I still like her? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Well that's interesting too, because a lot of these times
these shows end and it's like is our last impression?
How we will forever feel about them?

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Yeah? Because Sina hasn't won me back over and in the
meantime since me in her Pump Rules ended, because I
feel like the.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Press crazy, what'd she have to win? No, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
How is she not your number one? That's crazy? No,
I think about her all the time. I just don't
like thinking about her all the time, about her all
the time?

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
What was it when Jack's went to rehab and everyone's like,
please Jack's think of Sheena at this time?

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
No, it's literally everything he had like an announce he
had a drug addiction and people were like, but have
you thought about Shina? No?

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Stop being so selfish and think about China once in
a while. What she's never gonna get to go on
Dancing with the Stars. Doesn't she have a new show now, Traders?
She would suck a meet again. I could win. I
tell everyone I could win Traders. In a second with
that question.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
I think Traders could win you back on her side. Yeah,
but she is not a Trader, Murder, She's not a Trader.
I already know. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
That's my favorite thing about Traders is like, if they
put one normy me with all these reality stars, I win.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Not these Rando don't know anybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
No, no, not even not even the Dylan Afrons who
is kind of anormy but didn't know enough.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
This goes back to our The way we started this
episode is we wouldn't ask these people for photos like
we are not. I love them dearly. I love them
on my stream like as entertainment, but like if I'm
in the game with you, we are all. We're equals.
To be honest, I have a leg up. You don't
know me, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
You, But truly, here's what Traders for season four. Listen up,
put Meredith and I in the house. We will pretend
not to know each other.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
But if we make our big brother gameplay is going
to trader.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
But better, but better because if we both are the
only two at the end standing, you double the prize money,
so we each get our what is it, not a million,
but whatever it is, we each get that, so we
can only trust. But then that brings up we'll only
trust each other, but we both need to be there
at the end to double it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
And you don't have to put us both in us traders.
I think it'd be really interesting if only one of
us or neither of us were trader either.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Yeah, I think one of us should be, but that's
the thing. But then could there if one of us
was a trader, could they steal.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
No recruit the double cruit the other end?

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
Oh, in the end, we would have to be the last.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
You know, people accuse Danielle and Brittany of like Danielle
leaking that she was a trader to Brittany like you
and I a producer, stop listening now, like we don't
Probably the rest of this, I would like come up
with a wink. Wing would be a double Paul, She's
a she's a trader like you're you're gonna be my

(01:43:52):
trader like angel as they call it, Like I'm gonna
keep you around this whole time, and then the end,
I'm going to recruit you and we're going to right
off into the sunset. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
The best part is come back in producers. The best
part is though we technically have a leg up because
these people don't know us, right, that's more reason for
them to vote us off.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
We're not gonna be the same person. I don't think so,
because they don't know everybody else. Like they're all a
little egotistical where they're like, oh, well, like all the
you know, like these people were on like their show,
and like I think they'll feel bad for us. They're like, oh,
these little meek girls.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
But they'd be like, weird, there's two normies here. We
could lie about being on a show.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
I'd be like I was on Deal or No Deal
and now I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
Here just like the biggest loser, like just one, it's
one and John, Like Bobby.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
I was on HGTV for an episode, the Home.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Makeover edition I want to Bus. I was that kid
and they moved that bus for my house.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Do you remember that like that unicorn bed that was
mine ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
But they Yeah, I actually don't know if you know this,
but I was on House Hunters.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
It's fake.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Can you believe? That's all we talk about? Wait, that's
so funny, So we'll pretend. But the gag is that
we're working as a team, which I think is harder
in the end, because like, I can't betray you, but
I gotta make other alliances.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
It's like writing a line of this is my og alliance. Yes, producers,
don't you want this yo?

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
And I guarantee again, if you put Meredith and I
in a group with all the reality people, we know
we would win.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
And there's like no doubt. Can you imagine the confessionals,
the callbacks of the videos they can pull because we
know so much lore about every fucking person.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
I said it here first, if you're on Survivor Big
Brother the Challenge, you're my first target.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
I figure out how to get you out immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I want to keep around the Ivers and the Doloreses
in the end, because then we make it to the end,
we're gonna throw in that red powder and get your
ass out.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
I would say, though, if for some reason both of
us can't make it to the end. I would want
whichever one of us.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
Is a trader to go further.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Oh, Like I if I saw if you were the trader,
and I saw you were about to be voted out,
I would somehow sacrifice myself to be like get that money.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
I agree, because like that when having the information the
trader has like, well, okay. The only way I wouldn't
sacrifice myself is if you were just going down, like
remember this season, like people were going down. Yeah, like
we're not saving you, but it's like yourself, things are
getting suspicious. I could throw myself under the bus. He's like,

(01:46:39):
I don't think it's Alicia, She's too dumb. You know
what I would love to see happen is if one
of us has a little like the trader has a
little bit of stink on them. It's like, oh, now's
the time to recruit my best siet and you can
totally throw me under the bus and like point out
a trader to win people over. You can use that
move to gain trust with the traders. Sure, if it

(01:47:02):
feels like that was not your only move, I'm willing to, Yeah,
kame Akazi take myself.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Down, But I wouldn't want that because then we we
have to keep each other safe because then we double yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Yeah, because it's harder for one.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
I don't think it's happened yet, right, like one trader
to win it all, that's that's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
So we did that. So she took it already out,
she took she took. Yeah, those two down faithfuls. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
And then and then season two, two Faithfuls one and
kicked out the other faithful. Yeah, I'm Jay, and then
the faithful are the traders loss?

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
I mean yeah, kind of crazy, but like, yeah, the
incentive to keep each other in the game is like
we would each get that if we're the final two standing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
I feel like they need to drop us in as
two faithfuls and it becomes more complicated.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
I agree, But I think it'd be cool that if
one of us got recruited and then we still had
to say and all wherever we were like pulling on
our ears twice or something, be like I'm in I know,
and I would immediately, well, we can't turn on our
other traders, but I'd be like, if you can guess
the right name, I'll pull on my ear again, because I.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Never pull on my ear. But a man. Yeah, but
you can name a trader and be like, I'm suspicious
of them. Remember Danielle. Oh my god, how you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
I literally be like I'm suspicious of Danielle and you
could be like done.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
Yeah, like a well eyebrow raise of like a name.
It's like you would be.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
Hilarious because obviously the the audience would know we're working together.
Imagine we're just in a room and I'm like, I'm
suspicious of myself, and you'd be like, got it, got it,
and we're just like and that's how you know.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
We're Production's like, you're kicked out of here. Production.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
We're sposed to be listening this whole time, suspicious of me.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
But not no. Our cody is like you would say
you're suspicious of me, and I would know that you'm
suspicious of you. Yeah, Hey, I'm suspect of you. Of
course you're never suspicious.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Of me, because I know, all right, Production, you can
come back in now. Oh my god, amazing, someone do it.
I mean they're about to film season four. I mean
they filmed last like May June, so like we're ready.
I'm happy to quit my.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
Job for sure. We could do again.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
I am so confident that we could win, and we
said it before. There's only so many avenues of gameplay
on this show. This adds a new element for the audience.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
It's an extra little I like that it is. It's
kind of like when people know each other. I'm big
brother and the rest of the house doesn't know. But
like the audience does. That's fun? Come on?

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
It helps that then, Like what but like hypothetically, if
we were on this past season, Boston Rob comes in,
we know he's charismatic, the whole house trusts him, and
we have to somehow plot against him because you and
I know him.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
Like faithful or not, He's gonna Also another interesting take
on Enormy is if you send a Normy in there,
but they have an ear piece with like a Boston
Rob and Boston Rob is calling the shots, but the
Normy is like basically the chess piece.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
And again, if Boston Rob wins, you double that money
so they don't even have to split it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
You each get your own. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
I think it's a genius.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
Again, we're available for conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Literally, I can play on it any time. We will
do the roch and be the talent on this. We
don't actually go to sleep. We then edit the episodes.
We're like, that was actually a really good shot. Did
you check camera three for this conversation?

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Wait, I's something in my teeth. Can we go reshoot it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Sorry, Meredith and I will go have another secret conversation
one second. So funny, we could do it. We can
give you the storyline. We can tell you who to
cast for your next seasons.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
I can pick good traders. I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
Ten ten awesome. This show took left and right turns everywhere.
He jumped over bridges. We I don't even know where
we ended up, but it was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
Rest in peace with the Pope.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
Rest in peace to Pope Francis. You honestly, I say this,
not sarcastically. As a Catholic, you'll be missed. I truly
liked you as a pope.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
He didn't think about becoming Catholic a little bit every
once in a while, Like he made me not ashamed
of being like way to put it, that's a good
way to put it. I'm back into hiding. We'll see
after that conclict who we get.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
I'm actually I'm only Catholic for Pope Francis and them
out well, thanks so much for being here and listening,
Thanks for joining.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
Bye,

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