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September 17, 2025 46 mins
Alicia and Meredith head to Kentucky as Jax & Brittany spend two weeks on her family's farm as Brittany connects with her family but Jax has new experiences and countless questions about proposing.
  
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hi everyone. Hey, I'm Alicia and I'm Meredith and this
is also podcast one. Season Wonder is an addition, Did
Jackson Brittany take Kentucky? This is episode two? Maria's taking
me do it? That's my will?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
You know what I'm here to say. You're one third
of the way through, Alicia.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm gonna pick the next one season wonder. I'm prett next.
I'm sure you already haven't planned. I picked the next one,
but after that, you're I was gonna let her patrons pick.
Oh that's better, that's better. No, no, no, but how about.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
You can pick them picking it.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm gonna pick obscure ship. No I'm not. I'm not.
I'm gonna do good ship. But still better than this.
No one would have picked this, but it does, as
I said in the last episode, make it easier watching
this knowing that they're no longer together. It makes it easy.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Absolutely, Okay. Before we get into the episode, check us
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You'll never get bored of us, and if you hate us,

(01:35):
get us it anyway, maybe you'll learn to love us.
I'm an acquire a taste. It takes time, anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
If you don't like us press playing, just turn down
the volume.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I tell Meredith all the time, I don't think anyone
likes me on this show. I find myself extremely annoying,
but I'm here doing it. I'm here to do it
to make Meredith look better for her fans.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm not saying you're annoying, but if you think you're
annoying to people, at least you're annoying and funny, you know,
like there's just people who are meaning out there.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
At least I'm pretty, and at least I'm a little funny,
and at least I'm my own best friend. Sorry, Love
Island Summer anyway, that's not that. This isn't that show.
This isn't But.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
If you love that, we did have a whole episode on.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
All of that. Alicia's stop, it's not that show. We're
in Kentucky, We're not in for Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, I'm so sorry to bursh your bubble.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
We're not in Fiji.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
We're going to Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I stand by what I said though. At least I'm pretty.
At least I'm a little funny. At least I'm a
home best friend.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
A great suck my ass.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
No, don't do that crazy anyway. Anyways is getting the episode?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
You won't let me, You won't stop talking about being
your own best friend. Previously on Jackson, Brittany take Kentucky.
Jackson wants to go to Kentucky and make some good
impressions on Brittany's family. Mamma has lots of man jobs
for Jack's, which means Jackson's just shoveling a bunch of shit.
Mamma wants no alcohol at the bonfire that they were hosting,

(02:58):
but if Jackson wants a drink, he will have a drink.
And Dad doesn't like Sherry or Dad doesn't like Jack's,
but Cherry does, and maybe Dad should stop liking Sherry.
I mean they did get a divorce, but I.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Don't like Sherry at all.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Sherry's starting to be the problem too.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Dad saw Sherry and his uh silver in her silver
lipstick and said, divorce, divorce, babe. Good point.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Maybe that was, what was Dad's name?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Do we know? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't know, but I like just calling him dad
because he deserves that respect.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Fun fact, and when you look at Brandy Cartwright under parents,
it says only Sherry. Dad's not listed.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I know because I was. Actually I think I know
his I think I found his name.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
But it doesn't matter. Dad is great. We'll call him dad.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I definitely found his name because I pulled some quotes,
some iconic quotes from the episodes.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
He's he's the people's dad. It doesn't matter. Just call
him dad.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
That's the thing. He deserves, that respect.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I respect that numb name. Sorry, it doesn't matter anyway,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
We're back and we pick up at the bonfire on
Mamma's property, and we see Jax telling Sherry and Mamma
about like this ring picture that Jacks has, which.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I don't believe.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's as believable as Craig Conover's ring for Page Disorbo.
But Jax just knows that this will get them off
his back.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
And there they're sorry to here Craig and Jackson is
so accurate. I got I got gagon for a second.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I'm sorry there's so much watching this show at this time.
It's crazy because I'm like the parallels or like the
context it's giving to Jackson Brittany's divorce, but then also
other breakups and Bravo. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I've been gagged. Mama, Okay, sorry, go back.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
We're just showing the ring, and Mamma and Sherry are
They've never been more happy in their entire life. And
I was like, this is concerning you just see a again,
a photo of a ring, and that like seals the deal.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
We just have to live out of sin, Meredith. No
one cares, No one cares as long as we're out
of sin. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
But like again, he's like, yeah, I met with a designer,
I talked to somebody, not I have a ring, and
this is the date I'm gonna propose.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
He doesn't propose for at least a few more seasons, right, two?
At least like two more years or three, yeah, seasons years,
that's how I count the years sometimes, you know. But yeah,
so he this could be false. This is fake, This
is very fake.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
No, no, you know what, I'm gonna go get the screenshot
of the ring and compare it to Britney's engagement ring.
I'm gonna, but the bonfire is winding down for the
parents and they're out of here, and Brittany's friends are
staying and we're gonna. What are they saying, like, take
a shot? Take a shot, dude.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
This is the way I felt like I was in
a sorority and I felt in danger. Was crazy the
way like every word aly Sha, do you remember growing up,
not growing up, but when you were in college and
maybe a little after got really popular, where those sorority
videos of like yes, the girls in the doorway, the

(06:09):
sport songs.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yes, I do, because boy did I have to do
stuff like that?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Ah, thank god I didn't. They wanted me in the
back because I was dan, you know, but thank god.
But That's what this reminded me of. And I'm so scared,
and I.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Was just there's reasons I feel like I don't take
shots anymore. Part of it is because the pandemic made
me lose that habit. But this made me want to
like exercise it from my being to ever be able
to take a shot. Because if women walked up to
me chanting this, I would think that they are the
devil themselves.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
My god, we're calling Satan. That's what's happening. We're summoning
him immedia. It was so crazy. Also, can we talk
about how many single mom friends Brittany has. Okay, it's
happening in this town. They don't believe in contraception. The
pregnancy Pact was born here. It was crazy thing.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Britney's one friend, I don't even think we get a name.
Who is like, it's just one that's my ride leaving
and Brittany's like, we'll figure out, we'll get you back.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
She doesn't even say back to her car, basically like
back to your house because she has to like pick
up her kids and take him to school the next day.
I'm like, what are you doing here? Not to mom,
shame you, but like what are you doing here?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
But then she keeps saying it, so she's obviously like
worried about he's not going to get back. But then
someone else goes, don't worry, we'll get you back. We're
all moms here, and I went, what is like, what
am I? Like? What am I doing here? Condoms? Condoms
in birth control? This is what Jack says.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
One thing that I'm on his side, Like the alcohol
was a little on his side except for alcohol at
the bttomfire like, I'm like, yeah, let's find a bar enjoy.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Just wait till mama leaves and then see this is
the time to break out the shots of correct.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
But I understand Jax being like why all your friends
single moms?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
What I And can we say about getting home? I'm
just like I'm confused about them, Like where are your
kids now?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Is my question. My other thing is like like just
looking at I mean, we all know where I stand
on a lot of things, but just looking at like
how in Brittany's like small circle of friends, there's so
many single moms. I don't know. Should this town like
look at the numbers and be like something should change?

(08:30):
Maybe I don't know, Like maybe you know Obama was
still in office with like contraception. You know what they need?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
We need more abstaining from sex and less condoms and
no access to abortion. I think that is what we'll
fix it.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Okay, I mean, okay, we'll start the four This is
where the four B movement starts is in Kentucky with
all these single moms we're abstaining from sex.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Who want to take a shot on Mamma's property terrible.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
And where are the single dads? Are they helping out
in this situation that would be fucking at home.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
With these kids. It's all I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I don't know where these kids are. But I'm not
going to shame them.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm just I'm not trying to shame confused out where
the kids are.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
But the fact that that you're from the moms.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
We see the.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Fact that number friend number two said, I wasn't concerned
until friend number suit two said, don't worry, we'll get
you back. We're all moms, And I went, we're all moms.
We're all moms. Where what what are we doing in
the field? You know, like what one mom? Great, all moms, what.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Do we do? Pressure to get married seems a little
bit less.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I forget it.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I guess get that girly pregnant or not get her
pregnant in a marriage. I understand saying her parents being like,
let's let's lock that down.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
You know, Middle America, out of out of high school college,
all these kids got married at twenty two. I know
they all popped out.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Are not so many, but like a few.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I we all do. If we're from Middle America they
all have babies by twenty three, twenty four, and by
twenty six we were divorcing, like yeah, yeah, yeah, and
it wasn't even anything like we just don't get along
like there were to get divorced to Middle America with kids,
that's a deal. So true, the things were happening. I
don't know what, but like it had to be serious

(10:22):
enough to get the divorce. So like again, maybe the
town should look and be like, are we promoting the
correct things in this town? Because Jackson Brittany have at
least ten years until they get divorced with kids, so like.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I don't know, Oh my god, you're so right. I
think this came out and like.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well, I mean they're twenty seven and thirty seven in
the show, they're like thirty six and forty five now.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
So yeah, man, really so I mean, and.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I mean I'd rather get divorced at I don't know,
thirty something, so I like have more of a head
on my shoulders than twenty something. That's again just me,
but I just think this this town. I'm not saying
a lot, but I am something in the water is
a saying why is everyone horny in this town? And
cut it out now, shame and.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
The hornings get off their back. They can have a vibrator.
Horn doesn't cause babies will.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Be less horny and less stupid, and maybe use a
con maybe instead of being like, it's okay, we don't
have condoms things.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
We're not the PSA for Eastern Kentucky, clearly, but Jack's
stressed anyway.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
We don't have solutions. We're just complaining.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Jackson's stressed about these women being single moms, and they're
driving him nuts too, So are we Anyways? We now
on day three were wait.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
First, wait, wait first. Britty starts to feel Catholic guilt
for drinking on mamma's property, and I said, you know
that Catholic guilt is Catholic though she's not Catholic. What
is she? She's Christian?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, I can. I can promise you not Catholic because
I have seen a clip of them going to church
here in a little bit, and that shit would not
happen at.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
A Catholic church. That's all I'm saying. I guess Christian
guilt exist, but.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's not as potent as Catholic guilt because the Catholics
would have hid this drinking better.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'm gonna be honest. Oh, because the Catholics are No,
they have to live with that guilt anyway.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
So no, no, no, it would have never dislike disallowed alcohol
on the property like the Catholic My Maama would have
handed it to me, like Catholics are drinking.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's mamma is getting smashed. If she's Catholic, you're right,
You're right, mamma's drunk. You're right. But the guilt setting
in for Britney. But don't worry anyway, it's not Catholic
and she'll get through it. If it's not Catholic guilt,
it'll leave her, the lave her body.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
It's the next day, day three, and we're at Sherry's house.
The guilt might have left her, but the hangover is
setting in for Jackson Brittany. They are not feeling well.
And I did find a bonus clip online where Brittany
was so hung over she was throwing up outside of
the truck.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
My god, if you're gonna drink, don't be stupid about it.
You're twenty seven years old, I understand.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
But also exactly how Jack's treated her on season one
of the Valley is how he treats that man in
the clip I saw, so maybe I'll maybe I've done
it and post it. But it was it was not crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Also really quick. The song that's playing over this next
day is titled We're Not in La Anymore, Just so
everyone knows what is real literal producer is they just
absolutely cracking up. Let's be so clear, We're not in
La anymore. We're in Kentucky, baby, right, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Brittany isn't sure if ma'ammon knows that they were drinking,
and I'm like, well, that tells me that mahammon does know,
because come on, mammon, you can't get anything past that.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Mamma goes who brought the alcohol? She's like, yeah, don't
you dare lie to me because the jacks did a
little jig and sang my name to come find me.
Then he breathed on me and I knew.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, we're on the farm with mamma and she's like,
I know, like last time was fine. Who did it?
She doesn't even say like it was there, She's like,
I know who brought it? Who did it? And Britney
shares that one of her friends brought it, but they
promise not to do it again, and I do. We
get a flashback where Brittany was like, oh, we'll have
one of my friends spring it so we don't get

(14:23):
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah. Jack's literally is like, I'm not staying here sober,
and She's like, we'll blame my friends. So that's smart.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You should do that. Well, no matter what their hangovers,
must just power through with those because they have a
lot of work to do on this farm. If you
don't forget, Jack's only here to do these jobs. And
Mamma gives them the jobs to like lift the bails
of hay and then basically like spread it in the
field for the cattle.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
This is the sun circle of hell. This is that.
This is well. Have you ever heard of the guys
who it's like, Wow, those muscles are just for show.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I feel like we hear that.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
All the time on the challenge. Yeah, this is Jack
pop watch muscles. There muscles.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
These bales of hay. Listen, bails of hay are heavy.
I feel like I could have done one of these
one other than Jack's.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
The bales of hay are heavy for this size, Jacks
is it shouldn't be this It shouldn't be this difficult,
but it is.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
So like how Jack is performing on the first one,
and like that's how I like, I could match that.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I could do that, and I don't. I'm not as
ginormous as Jacks.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
So so he's lifting all those into the truck and
then he's learning that you have to call the cattle
like to come eat, and he gets so confused at
what they're saying, which cracked me up.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I even know what they were saying either, I forget.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I don't even know. It doesn't even matter. But Jacks
is every day, every second of being in Kentucky, He's like,
I hate this place for this.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I just add one more reason to the lie. I've
never related to him so much. I the face I
would make it. If I heard that call, I'd be like,
excuse me, just again. I would hide it if it
was a person I love, if it was my own family,
what the fuck are you doing? You know? Weird?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well again, she grew up this way, so a little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, I would. I would be shook to my core.
It would you know that that thing where it's like
like things that would break people from like the coast,
if they're from them and this would break me. This,
this would be something to break me.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
And we're not even from the coast. That's the craziest part.
We're kind of from middle We are from Middle America,
which is the craziest part. But we're not from the
middle of Middle America.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
But Jacques does have actually a really good idea. And
I'm kind of shocked they never thought of this, that
somebody should drive the truck and another person should be
in the back of the pickup truck just throwing the
hay out rather than having to walk the entire field
and do this.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah. I'm not sure on the education levels of Mammon
Papa whatever his name is, but this seemed like right
right there. It was like right logic, the best idea.
You need some some more on from Michigan thought of
this for the first time. You know what, I will
say many years or whatever, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I will say, the desire to not do things will
make people genius.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's true that, you know what, then they're done that.
Then they're done that.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, we're done with the day. Because of Jackson's ingenuity,
we are done with the day and we go back
to the main house.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And we sit down.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Jackson, Brittany sit down with Tiffany, Brittany's sister, and Jackson
is very blunt, but I do appreciate him at least
asking his questions.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Tiffany's a single mom. She's one of the many on
the pregnancy bath.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Tiffany is another single mom that we will meet on
this journey. And Jack says like, hey, your family is
so religious, how did they feel about you having kids
out of wedlock? And I was like tough?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Was it tough having kids out of wedlock? I went, well,
was it?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I know?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I was waiting for Brittany to be like Jack, that's
so rude and like trying to make her not answer,
but I'm like, no, no, no, give me the answer.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Here's my thing though. This is one of those questions
like you know, when someone falls off their bike or go,
did it hurt? Yeah? Obviously? Was it hard? Yes? Yes,
that's a thing hard.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I just want to know, like, what was it like
when your family found out?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Like what are those interactions? Like? Yeah, the way he
worded it was like did it suck? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
It fucking words? She's a mom, yeah, And She's like listen,
you know, obviously they were disappointed. This isn't how we
were raised, but our family really rallies around each other.
So my dad always said like, Tiffany will be fine,
and I was like, wait, that is so sweet, that's awesome.
I was waiting for her to be like, yeah, no.
My parents were really judgmental and yelled at me at first,

(19:04):
and then like they've been so supportive later. But it
sounds like Dad, who I think is kind of like again,
the more religious one is like, we got this.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I think Dad probably had his moment and then we're like, well,
we can't change it. I can't imagine Dad just hurt
it and then went, you know what, though, we'll get through.
I think Dad took a few days and then said.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
A few months.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I can't nine months and it's either this or abortion,
and we don't do that here. So but here's my thing.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
If you're not going to allow abortion, you best diet
and support They did.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
They put the money their money where their mouth was, so.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, well, out of talking about Tiffany's single modhood and
how hard it is, Jackson, Brittany come up with this
great idea that they will watch the nephews tonight. They're
gonna change in the town to one of the little
nice restaurants Chili.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Is it apoobies, don't disre expect Applebee's like this, I'll
die on this sword.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I'll die for Applebee's. So the chilies, no, fuck chilies. No, well, listen,
moder no, no, I'm sorry, No, I won't die for Applebee's.
That was Listen. There's one thing about the Middle America,
even the cities. We love Applebee's. That was where we

(20:27):
went to celebrate anything twas Applebee's. I love that place.
What is it in the neighborhood Applebee's, I are saying,
But it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Did heal neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Good in the neighborhood, And that's true. That reigns supreme.
Fuck chilies. We got some good hearty American food, Apple Jaxon's.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Like before I indulge myself and Applebee's, let me go
clean myself off because I can't show up.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Wait. But also also we forgot to mention Jack's is
a seasoned babysitter. He actually wants baby. Sorry, his friend
forget about this flashback. His friend Peter's girlfriend girlfriend Sarah Son.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, k Sarah's son, Peter.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
It was three grown men, three men and a baby
actually was what happened when Jack's help that kid not
a baby. Three.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I don't want to be the three.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Men and a baby.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
But in case I don't want, don't worry. I don't
think a mom would leave a baby with those three hooligans.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, but mostly Jax talked to his this kid about
his own mother's boobs, which was which was babysitting at
its finest.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And I will say to give some background, Britney's boobs
were modeled after that.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Water Sarah the ex girlfriend because Peter and Sarah aren't
together anymore. Just FYI and everyone, Yes, yes, so Sarah
Sarah lives forever and Brittany's you know it's true?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Well, yeah, you're right. Seasoned babysitter Check is gonna go
get cleaned up for his babysitting. You got Applebee's. I mean,
how can it get better than this? And while that
I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Know though, because the babysit at Applebee's. Sorry, I'm done,
A dream got true. Before we get to the treat,
we are going.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
To go and walk with Tiffany and Brittany while they
brush the horses and talk about Brittany's relationship and Brittany
again is talking about how like last year was really
hard on their relationship, like all summer, which was all
of season five of Innerpump Rules when Jackson burrates her
every single day of her life, yep, and so it's

(22:41):
like not great.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, Tiffany does ask Brittany and says, do you think
Jax will be a good dad? And Brittany says, he's
great with the dogs, of course, I think he'd be
a great dad. And I said, if someone's good with dogs,
it doesn't mean they're good with kids. And I think
we should stop calling pet's children now because I think

(23:05):
we're confused.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Listen, you can call your pets your children, but like
they are not they do not require as much work
as children, so like they shouldn't be the indicator of, listen,
being a parent. Because your dog can be kind of
self sufficient a little bit, and you can leave him
home all day. You cannot leave your baby home at
all day.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Also, you could probably I don't know, be a little
rougher with your dog than with your child. There's just
a lot more at stake. I don't think this is
a good indication. But hey, Briney, yeah, jack.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
The dog looks good in a sweater, doesn't mean he's
going to be a good dad.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Go off queen. Yeah whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well, Jack's done getting ready and he does come out,
and at first he plays football with the boys, which
I was like, Okay, here's, you know, a good shunning
moment for.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
These boys. Hate this guy, Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
But then Jackson sits down and calls Schwartz and hes
not hit on the trip, And I mean, it is
kind of weird to me how honest Jacks is on
camera all the.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Time, considering everyone's gonna see this.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah yeah, he's just like I can't do this, Like
this is like I could never live here. I would
get so bored so quickly. And he also is talking
about how he's going to blame everything on everyone else constantly.
He's in his like normal routine of blame everybody else
for everything, especially with the alcohol situation, like everything with

(24:32):
this family, it's like no worries because I'll just like
get out of it by whying.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, the way he admits that on camera's crazy. Also,
if I see Tom Schwartz in One more show he's
not actually captain, I'm gonna lose it. It's not funny.
It's not fun anymore. We're not having fun. Okay, fun
is Applebee's. Fun is not Tom Schwartz.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I will say it was crazy Jack's. He's timing Schwartz
well in a cowboy hat in eastern Kentucky talking about
how much he hates this trip. And it's episode two,
like day three of this.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
And Tom Schwartz, of course, is never gonna tell Jacks
to shut the fuck up, but he's also not gonna
do anything to get himself in trouble, so he's just like, oh,
Jack's you're so silly. Yeah, man, you're look at you
in that hat. Ha ha jokes, No, hah, funny, shut
the fuck up, hate you anyway. Sorry, Well, let's let's

(25:31):
go to Applebee's.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Let's got Applebee's. We were driving to Applebee's. We got
Jack's driving, Brittany in the front seat and the two
kids in the back, and Jack's on the way immediately
tries to roast Brittany for her age being twenty seven
and Braiden in the back seat. Here the oldest roast
Jack's right back for being thirty forty.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
You're forty, man, he said, because Jack says you're almost
thirty to Brittany, and Brittany's like, I'm not I'm not seven,
And then Braiden, it's like, you're almost forty.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I was a jas like about to like drive into
a pole thinking of this.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Ye, he's gonna murder suicide after that.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
You see, this is how dumb jocks is. Like, my god,
you're literally ten years apart. Everything you can say about
her to like her next age is you like, and
you can't win this, Joe.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, that's the craziest thing to try and roaster on
because yours is always ten years higher. Literally, you pick
the one thing you'd lose it. Well, like, there's many,
but I mean there's this one. Really. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know what we're doing, but nothing you could do
to change this one. He just needs brain food. He
needs apple Bees. Yeah, so we sit down and don't worry.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Brittany orders the best thing you can get, chicken fingers
for these fingers platter.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
There's no greater happiness than going to Applebee's and getting
the chicken fingers platter. And once you turn thirteen, you
tell your parents, I don't have to word off the
kid man you and you get the real one. Oh
my god. The way. I was salvating over this apple
and I thought about ordering it. But Applebee's at home
doesn't hit. You gotta go get the experience and eat

(27:14):
good in the neighborhood. It's not the same. You have
to be by the family.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
She she knows which sauces that her nephews eat, like,
she was like, catch up for this one, Honey Mustard
for that one.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
And I was like, you know this is your Do
you know this with your nephews? No?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Good God, no, I would just get them whatever I want.
I'd be like, give us eighteen hundred sauces.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Just shut the fuck up. I'm not even gonna ask
you bring it all.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
This is the thing I really do respect how much
of a family person Brittany is. Like she loves her
family so much.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
She doesn't there there. She did live there.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
For a while, like until she moved to La like
two years ago.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
But imagine Branden is like when you just saw me,
I was ten and I'm twelve him.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's the point.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
But one thing that will never change is how good
apple Bee's chicken tenders are. If you're a vegan, switch back,
because these are to die for her. Every King's lucky
to be killed by Applebee's.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
You know what, what what else won't change? Jack says,
number one thing about Brittany will always be her boobs. Yes,
and of course she has to say that in front
of her nephews.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Her nephew Natalie asks what do you like.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
About Brittany and he goes, we're boobs, her big boobs.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
I swear to God, if my uncle said that about
my aunt, I would not even the boy she's dating
at this point. The way I would pass away, I
would pass away, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
And yeah, Brandon Braiden would the actually, no, this one's
the other one.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I forget what his name, The little one.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, the littler one is like, I know you love
her feet, And then we get the clips being obsessed
with her yo. Yeah again like how do you know that?
And Brittany's dying laughing, being like, I guess we're travels
in the small town.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
If I was Brittany, I would pass away on that one.
This is terrifying. Applebee's is supposed to be about love
and connection. This is the worst Applebee's I've ever been to.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's not Appleby's fault, though, don't ever put that on Applebee's.
This is this is a company.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
This is the fault, the vibes these people brought to Applebee's.
It's not good in the neighborhood right now.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
No, let me eat my chicken fingers and peace and
stop making me think about my aunt's boobs and her feet.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
When we're here, we're supposed to be family, and we're not.
It doesn't feel like family. Oh that's a different that's whatsume.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Well. The good thing is Jackson the back of his
mind is like, maybe I'm not ready for marriaging kids,
Like this is a lot, And I'm like, can't I
hate you?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
These coulds hate you? You're also antagonizing them?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Crazy, These aren't your kids, So like, you can dislike
these people and still be ready for your own family.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
This made me think, okay, because I do think I myself,
my parents we love to poke fun at each other
the doggy dog world in our house. But there is
a line between like antagonizing and like doing it through love.
And I wonder Jack's does he antagonize his own son,
because that would explain a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh my god, They're gonna say, are these kids antagonizing him?
And I'm like, Jack's brought half this shit up.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
No, Jack's antagonizes these kids, these kids should poke fun
with him. He's gonna be the fun uncle, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Whatever's the one that can make fun of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
But the fact that Jack's doesn't go back in like
a loving way, it almost is like a square off. Yeah,
it doesn't come across as like fun that you would
have with your Like that's true.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's not like they're all laughing together like they're. Jack's
is like you're laughing at me, and now I need
to get you back.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yes, So my thing I was like thinking about his
own son. That scares me for his son and maybe
why Jack doesn't have the greatest relationship with most people.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
I think in general, the relationships Jack's has are very
transactional and like he centers himself in them. And so
like we saw in The Valley season two, him like,
go hug his son and his son turns away.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Wow, his son wanted to disappear. Yeah, Like his son's
also autistic. So he shows love like he probably doesn't
really love to hust So he shows.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Cruise of love with Zach, Brittany's friend from home Zach. Yeah,
and like yeah, Zach knew how to interact with him
and like go at his own pace and like.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
A body language. Wonders was very different. So I just
wonder if Jacks is like an antagon I mean, I
know he's an antagonizing force, but I would to his
own kid. Yeah, it's a different vibe.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Watching this show. I'm like, mm, yeah, there were clear
cut signs.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
You know what My thought now is maybe Brittany's dad
didn't figure out the Internet and couldn't stop this.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Maybe he couldn't figure out the TV or to watch
because he didn't record it.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
He missed it every time.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know what, maybe when Peacock finally launched, someone was
that around like twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Two, twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, like Dad finally could go back and rewatch everything
and was like Brittany and he started planting the seeds.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
You gotta get out, you gotta get out. Yeah, maybe
he finally figured it out. He called Bryden and said,
the nickel still stands, the payment about still stands, the
Nichol stands.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
We do go to Dad's house the next day and
Dad is super excited because a few days ago Dad
took Jack's frogging to. I don't know if the frogs,
I don't know if it's like fishing, don't know what
the terminology is. Okay, I got to capture some frogs
and it didn't go well, so they didn't get any frogs.

(33:06):
But Dad and Austin the brother, got some frogs and
they want Jacks to go handle them because like we
gotta terrorize Jack's. Obviously, Jack's goes over to the bucket
and he like starts freaking out and he's like, what's
in here? And this was my favorite scene. Jack's or
Jacks won't put his hand in there. He's like freaking
out so much, and Brittany's like just get out of

(33:27):
the way, like let me do it, and she like
grabs them and he like hands them to them and
they like take a photo and it was so funny.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Outstretched as far away from this creature. It reminded me
of in elementary school. I was at my friend's house
and she caught a garter snake, which disgusting, but then
they were like, Alicia, hold it for a picture. And
the way I held this thing as far away from
my body by the tail so it couldn't get me,

(33:55):
that was Jack. I get it. I am Jack's in
the country.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, I agree, But I just love that this family's
whole mission is to embarrass Jacks on absolutely level, every day, constantly. Well,
new way to embarrass and demean Jack's in a rightful
way is We're gonna go downstairs because Dad needs help.
I'm cleaning the fireplace, and Dad's like, let's pull this

(34:20):
like fireplace thing out and then we can clean the chimney.
And Dad and Jacks are trying to like drag it out,
and Jackson's would you call him popcorn muscles earlier?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
His popcorn muscles.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
His popcorn muscles are at it again because Jacks cannot
pull this thing out, and Dad's like, no, even just fine, like.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Gone, Jackson's and Dad is half the size of Jacks.
Oh my god, my god, put use your legs.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
That's what he doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Use your legs.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
He probably skips legs he day now. But we get
it out, and then the whole family's like down there
watching them, and Dad's like, all right, you guys, go upstairs.
It's our turn to And I was like, you.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Get him.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
And Jack says that he wants to marry Brittany, but
she's really losing her Britney spark and has signs of depression.
So he like, we really need to fix this problem
before I marry her.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Of the absolute anger that seethes from.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Me, which part when he said she's losing her Britney
spark she's depressed, or that it's a problem we have
to fix.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
When he said he can't marry her until they fix
this problem of her depression, I was like, I haven't
to no insigness or in health. My guy, also fix
the problem, like lit the way mental health is talked
about by idiots.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Fix depression that because I understand me, like listen on her,
like if we get married, I wanted to be the
happiest version of herself, Like I want to make sure
that she's the best version of herself. So like I
want to like work with her through this and then
I want to propose and we get married. That would
be different. He's like, Wow, she's really not the person

(36:05):
I met and like that just doesn't work for me.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
We have to turn off the depression switch so that
she can be my happy, go lucky slave again. Basically
as if she, like.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Willingly is depressed and lazy, as I'm sure he's called
her before.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, literally lit, oh my god, you know what. We're fine,
We're fine.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I'm happy. I did not watch this show when it
aired because we already hated their wedding. I could not
have handled it knowing this.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I don't think we are podcast. Would I had to stop,
we would have broken up the podcast. I wouldn't have
covered their wedding and I'll never again. But it's terrible, terrible,
my god. So anyway, Dad is.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Like, listen, I don't want you to make Brittany believe
you're gonna get married. Meanwhile, you're like trying to find
a way out of this.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
So like clock him.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
You're gonna propose or just stop fucking talking about it?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Clock him.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I was like, maybe you have been watching Inner Pumper Roles, my.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Guy, none of this bullshit in this house. Yeah, uh uh, listen,
you don't want to marry her, great, then shut the
fuck up about it. Yes, don't put this hoops stringing
her along.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Don't put it in her mind just for you to
run away in the end, which I mean, I know
they do get married, but he he like constantly sells
women this idea of him, and then if they go
through anything or if they want anything from him. It's like,
oh my god, Like I can't believe this. You're ruining

(37:39):
my life. You suck, You're an alcoholic, all this, all that,
and then he's like I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
No this dad clocks him. Awesome, dad became daddy in
this scene. Hell yeah, I love the dad motherfucking yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
But I'm sad because, like, clearly the dad couldn't get
through to Brittany to avoid this from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Some people. Here's the thing is like I am unwed
with no prospect you know what I will say, and
not a single mom though, so you're there both counts.
I bring up to my parents a lot where I'm like,
even with my sister, I'm like, you really gotta let
us know if you see any red flags, because like
I intend to be blinded by love and like I

(38:23):
wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life with that,
to which my dad was like, but listen, you're like
a thirty year old woman, Like you're a grown it's
your decision at the end of the day. Yeah, and
he says like we can say whatever, but like what's
the point, Like do we then like mess up our
relationship with you because we don't like the person you're marrying,
or do we just stick around and be able to

(38:44):
help you through the bad ways if they are there,
I was like, because it does mean several things.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
For you to see it versus your family to see it,
Like do you experience it yourself and want to leave
that relationship?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
You're not going? Yeah, And if I'm twenty three, my
parents have a right to look at me and be like,
your frontal lobes not even developed. This man sucks. But
if I'm twenty seven, they're like, listen, but.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
He gets engaged. I think she's twenty.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
She's like thirty. Yeah, like what are they gonna do?
Don't marry him? Okay, you've already been with him for
four years at this point, Like what are we gonna do?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Realist, that's a really good point.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, So some people I think just need to like.
I also think there's some people who just don't want
to hear it, Like I think Britnie's dad probably did
say something along the line yeah like are you sure,
And some people don't. They're like, yeah, I'm sure. I
would probably if my parents said like are you sure,
because we're not sure that would register for me a
little bit more. But if I had been dating someone

(39:44):
for four years and you say that to me, I
can't also say like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
He's also Dad's working against like Sherry and ma'amma and
everybody else's like get married, we love this like, so
his voice.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Might not be as loud. Brannie also really wants to
be a mom, and that clock is ticking unfortunately for
women to like as someone. Again, I can't put myself
in Berney's situation because I'm not dating someone for four years.
I would take my parents' opinions into great consideration, and I.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Don't have they a mom. Well, and like being alone
versus being with this loser.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
That it's it's a different mindset. But I was Dad,
I'm rooting for you. Just know why you have crushing it.
You're doing so good. I just wish I wish you
weren't going against the tide here, you know, agreed?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Well, okay, next time on the fundraiser, we're gonna see
Jack's decides he's going to match the proceeds.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I can't wait for this.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Then money goes up and up and up, and Jack's
is slowly freaking out.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
What is he saying that's enough.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Now they've they've raised it off.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
We're good.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Can't wait to see that. Well, that's happening, and the
money is going up. The number of times that Jax
tells people that Britty is losing her spark is also
going up, because tells everybody Jack is also a perfectionist ian.
He starts clashing with Brittany's friends and they start yelling
at him, and I kept.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Getting to see that, Like hell, the way I love
to clock a bad boyfriend of my friends and murder
him with my words. That's like a hobby. That's why
my friends don't bring bad boyfriends around me anymore.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
They know we're gonna see it one last time.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Oh I'm gonna get so excited. Okay, So now I
picked none other than Jason Michael Couchi, also known as
Jax Taylor, to give you an update on again. Not
hard because I've never been rid of this man a
day in my life. But basically, he's like forty five
years old. His Wikipedia page said he was four and
a half feet basically, that's not accurate. Let mean, don't

(41:48):
believe everything you read on the internet, but whoever did
that is hilarious, so.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Funny that he does wear lifts in his shoe, So he.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Does wear lifts. But I do think he's over for
and a half. He lives on that big Yeah. So basically,
he grew up in Michigan. He went to Michigan State,
which I don't think I registered, but he did go there. Yeah,
I okay, this I don't remember this, so it is

(42:16):
it false.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I've done a full timeline on this man. So you
asked any question, and I know.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Was he in the navy?

Speaker 2 (42:23):
So he enlisted, enlisted, he went to a training camp.
The time frames are really hard to find. Yeah, he
went to a training camp maybe a second. And I
don't believe he was ever deployed. I think he drops
off before he gets deployed. But he has said he
has said he was deployed and was discharged. So like

(42:46):
that's what's I've never found anything supporting now, Okay.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
All I found was he went to school to enter
the Navy for about six months, yeah, and then he
dropped out or whatever. Yeah, Okay, so then he also
did a lot of money. Well, people believe that he
got removed for mental reasons. Just that check allegedly allegedly. Okay,
So he moved to Miami. He did a lot of
modeling there. He also went to Europe for some modeling gigs.

(43:12):
That is a lot of that is covered in vander
Pumperwoles in our room cap. So if you're very familar,
if you want to know all the details, dirty details
of that, please go check that out. But he did
a ton of modeling stuff. He was a good looking
dude News twenty, I get it.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
He did really good at modeling.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
He also is an actor, so technically he's a mactor,
a model actor. But he did a bunch of different
background stuff like Two Broke Girls. He's a background actor
in the OC which I don't remember, but now I'm upset,
And he was just at.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
A party, which, like, this is the thing A lot
of his work is, is the back.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, But like I wish I had spotted it,
you know, because I've watched that show a but jillion
times right over my head. He did Arrested Development Dexter,
Will and Grace. He was credited as a hot guy
too on Desperate Housewives. Oh hotkey too in the dance
club on Desperate Housewives, So named there named then he

(44:10):
started working for Lisa vander Pump at Sir and Villa Blanca.
Vander Pump Rules is born. Thank you so much, Sina Sha,
who's checked on her recently let me know obviously I
said my last episode he dates Brittany. That basically Jacks
is well documented in most seasons of vander Pump Roles.
So if you need to know anything about this man,

(44:31):
there are many seasons to figure that out. But yeah,
so then he he was fired from vander Pumper Roles
for I Believe being racist, which a lot. There was
an entire Instagram dedicated to it. Yeah, checks out, but
he's problematic. He has recently come back into reality TV
with The Valley. He also did House the Villains on

(44:51):
E Yeah, he does a lot of bullshit. He's always around.
And then he opened up a bar in Studio City
called Jackx's with Brittany kind of but like it's his bar,
so yeah. And then he has a son now named Cruise.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
And in twenty twenty four went to I'm gonna put
it quote You're right.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
In twenty twenty four, he announced on Instagram he was
diagnosed with bipolar disorder and PTSD and checked himself into
a quote inpatient treatment facility. He also came out as
a cocaine addict, but we all knew it was. It
was like private but not a secret, you know. It's
just one of those we all talked about. It was

(45:35):
like that family secret that everyone talks about except with
that one person, you know. So we were all gossiping
about it. But he had zero idea. But very fun,
very fun. That's Jack Taylor. I'm gonna try and do
one on Sherry. Find all her husbands.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I need that research. I know. I don't wish me luck.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Coming up next the Sherry update and episode three.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Oh I can only be so lucky. But I think
that's it. Anyways, do all the things.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Love ya, thanks for joining. Bye
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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